Dear KAG: 20230921 Open Thread and the Fog of War.

First prayers for  Deplorable Patriot, her Mom and her Family. May God be with all of them to support and heal them.

I am going to rely on Q tree commenters to bring the breaking news. We can start with Burning Bright’s Badlands news brief headlines. (The comments are mine.)

Badlands News Brief: A Fed, a Ukrainian & a DeSimp Walk Into a Bar …

BADLAND MEDIA HEADLINES:

Ray Epps [FINALLY] Charged With Jan. 6 Crime—After Conspiracy Theory Claimed He Worked For FBI – Snicker.

The Deep state was finally forced to do something about Epps since we would not SHUT UP so they threw us a VERY well chewed bone.

The penalty for disorderly conduct in restricted grounds is a fine, imprisonment for not longer than one year or both.

Given the circumstances and the sentences for others, I consider that an insulting slap in the face, but we shall see.

Trump Leads Biden Nationally As RealClear Asks ‘What Happened To DeSantis?’

We laughed him off the stage.

Milley & Stoltenberg Agree: ‘We Must Prepare Ourselves For A Long War In Ukraine’

Not if American citizens and Putin have anything to say about it. Besides, they are running out of Ukrainians and Europeans are as reluctant as American citizens to fight in this stupid war.

GEE What if they had a ‘war’ and no one came?

Zelensky Fires Top Defense Officials In Corruption Purge Ahead Of Washington Trip

Some at Badlands have floated the idea that Zelensky’s strings are cut and he now has a different Puppet Master named Trump.

House Subcommittee on Oversight Hearing Interviews Former Capitol Hill Police Chief Steven Sund – Outspoken Critic of Nancy Pelosi’s Failures to Secure the US Capitol on Jan. 6 – WHY ISNT THE FAKE NEWS REPORTING ON THIS?!

Also gleaned from Badlands. Zak Paine noted one of these Weathermen, Susan Rosenberg, was the vice chair of the Thousand Currents board of directors. Thousand Currents manages fundraising operations for the national arm of Black Lives Matter. Rosenberg was pardoned by Bill Clinton. Remember 4% of the money went to Act Blue.

The Weathermen I

The Weathermen II – Of Media, Money & Men

The Weathermen III – ALL4FLOYD

from the comments on the first vid-



UnapologeticChristianOG

27 weeks ago

Warning! Grab a pen and paper. Fricken all of this connected is INSANE! Even Ethiopia! Obama. Holden. Ayers. Kerry. 9/11. THEY PLANNED THIS A VERY LONG TIME AND THEY DIDNT THINK SHE’D LOSE. 

….

Fog of War.

One of the Cabal’s favorite methods of control is rewriting history or making it completely disappear. This applies not only to history but to the rewriting of science. Recently I have run into repeated examples of this. I want to document them so examples are available.

SCIENCE REWRITTEN – These are in no particular order.

…The ice core analysis method switched from an analysis of the WHOLE SAMPLE to analysis of the CO2 left in the air bubble. This newer method gives much lower CO2 numbers. that do not agree with the older numbers or with the plant stomata data. SEE: link

This is a link that JUST WENT DEAD WHILE I WAS WRITING an ARTICLE! The March 2023 archive version

https://web.archive.org/web/20230313163218/http://www.greenworldtrust.org.uk/Science/Scientific/CO2-ice-HS.htm

Back in 2015, latitude wrote:

Latitude says:

December 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm

Gail, put this in your bookmarks…….they found the cut off was 220 ppm….not 200
I don’t know where people got the idea that it’s 150 and keep repeating that….220 stops them

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2010.03441.x/pdf

July 2010 Tansley review: Plant responses to low [CO2] of the past

However the paper NOW READS:

2. Biomass production In order to determine how physiological responses to low [CO2] manifest themselves at the whole-plant level, plants must be grown for a full generation at low [CO2]. Such studies have shown that the average biomass production of modern C3 plants is reduced by c. 50% when grown at low (180–220 ppm) vs modern (350–380 ppm) [CO2], when other conditions are optimal (Sage & Coleman, 2001; Fig. 5). There is, however, variation in this response among C3 species (Fig. 5), as well as within C3 species, whereby reductions in biomass may vary by 40–70% among genotypes (Ward & Strain, 1997; Hovenden & Schimanski, 2000; Mohan et al., 2004). In addition, as [CO2] declines to 150 ppm, biomass production may be reduced by as much as 92%, as was observed in A. theophrasti (Dippery et al., 1995; Figs 2, 5).

What is interesting is the Wayback Machine has the same paragraph BUT the earliest save is September 2019, almost a decade after the paper was written and a couple years after Latitude  pointed it out to me in a comment.

Earliest saved version:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190922060135/https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2010.03441.x

A decade ago when I first comment on this there was a Peer-reviewed paper saying C3 plants starve below 200 ppm. It was of course removed from the internet.

notice how ‘inconvenient’ data disappears from the internet. Well I followed the trail on internet censorship with COMMENTS STARTING HERE.

Speaking of people with direct knowledge, there is this comment from a guy posting at Tony Heller’s. He TRASHES the ‘conventional wisdom’ about CO2 toxicity.

Marsh says:

December 23, 2015 at 11:45 am

Gail : that’s great info, the only points I disagree with are on the upper CO2 limits.

( 2,000 ppm starts to become toxic ) most plant types can handle many times that,

tests have shown that even 50,000 ppm can be tolerated by some plant species.

http://www.co2science.org/subject/v/summaries/veryhighco2.php

……………………………………………………

( 4,000 ppm it becomes toxic to humans ) only under adverse work conditions,

the US Navy Submariners go for many weeks at 8,000 ppm as long as O2 is sufficient.

http://www.nap.edu/read/11170/chapter/5

…………………………………………………….

I’ve worked with CO2 for many years in Hospitals ; it’s not that dangerous provided that the Oxygen saturation, has not been compromised in the area of breathing.

Then Tony Heller’s blog was attacked.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Back Online

Posted on September 4, 2023 by tonyheller

You probably have noticed that the blog has been broken for weeks.  The previous hosting service ran out of disk space and deleted tens of thousands of image files without my permission.  They also failed to keep a backup of the site before deleting the images. Then they shut the blog down completely and sent me this message :

(you are) very illustrative of why the country so hates right-wing influencers who can’t see beyond their own grift and selfish hypocrisy”

I am now working with a respectable hosting service, but it will take some time to restore the tens of thousands of damaged blog posts.  Thanks for your patience.

I’ve been posting at realclimate.science as well.

Tony

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My Personal Troll, Mr G Edward Griffin and Rewriting History

I mentioned a few days ago that I had acquired a personal troll. Richard Courtney @ WUWT trashes the Bankster’s Troll in 2013 HERE. And then he showed up a CTH in 2018 and admitted stalking me HERE.

Why the stalking? Because I brought G. Edward Griffin and the Federal Reserve Fraud to the attention of the people at WUWT.

Most are aware of A Talk by G. Edward Griffin, Author of The Creature from Jekyll Island Since I refer to it here occasionally. Quotes from this article are what attracted the negative attention of the Troll. He used Ad hominem  to attack Griffin saying Griffin is a John Bircher. However there is a lot of other DANGEROUS information by Griffin that needed to be hidden too and I think that was the basis for the attack. Most of the information is now only available via archive.

Part 1: The Chasm The Future Is Calling (Part One) © 2003 – 2007 by G. Edward Griffin Revised 2007 September 18

…Where do we find this evidence? The first place to look is in history. The past is the key to the present, and we can never fully understand where we are today unless we know what path we traveled to get here. It was Will Durant who said: “Those who know nothing about history are doomed forever to repeat it.”

THE HIDDEN AGENDA

…the year 1954 and, suddenly, we find ourselves in the plush offices of the Ford Foundation in New York City. There are two men seated at a large, Mahogany desk, and they are talking. They cannot see or hear us, but we can see them very well. One of these men is Rowan Gaither, who was the 3 President of the Ford Foundation at that time. The other is Mr. Norman Dodd, the chief investigator for what was called the Reece Committee, which was a Congressional committee to investigate tax-exempt foundations. The Ford Foundation was one of those, so he is there as part of his Congressional responsibilities. In 1982, I met Mr. Dodd in his home state of Virginia where, at the time, I had a television crew gathering interviews for a documentary film. I previously had read his testimony and realized how important it was; so, when our crew had open time, I called him on the telephone and asked if he would be willing to make a statement before our cameras, and he said, “Of course.” I’m glad we obtained the interview when we did, because Dodd was advanced in years, and it wasn’t long afterward that he passed away. We were very fortunate to capture his story in his own words. What we are about to witness from our time machine was confirmed in minute detail twenty years later and preserved on video. The reason for Dodd’s investigation was that the American public had become alarmed by reports that large tax-exempt foundations were promoting the ideologies of Communism and Fascism and advocating the elimination of the United States as a sovereign nation. As far back as the 1930s, William Randolph Hearst had written a series of blistering editorials in his national chain of newspapers in which he cited Carnegie Foundation publications that spouted Communist slogans identical to what was coming from the Communist Party itself. When the Carnegie Endowment published an article written by Joseph Stalin attacking Capitalism and praising Communism, Hearst called it “propaganda, pure and simple.”…

This is very critical because of what Mr Griffin says later in the article.

A STRATEGY TO CONTROL THE TEACHING OF HISTORY

…The question that arises in Mr. Dodd’s mind is: How would it be possible for anyone to think they could alter life in the United States so it could be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union and, by implication, with other nations of the world? What an absurd thought that would be – especially in 1954…

The answer was provided by the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace, the same group that had been the center of controversy in the 1930s. When Dodd visited that organization and began asking about their activities, the President said, “Mr. Dodd, you have a lot of questions. It would be very tedious and time consuming for us to answer them all, so I have a counter proposal…

This is what those minutes revealed: From the very beginning, the members of the board discussed how to alter life in the United States; how to change the attitudes of Americans to give up their traditional principles and concepts of government and be more receptive to what they call the collectivist model of society

At the Carnegie Foundation board meetings, they discussed this question in a scholarly fashion. After months of deliberation, they came to the conclusion that, out of all of the options available for altering political and social attitudes, there was only one that was historically dependable. That option was war. In times of war, they reasoned, only then would people be willing to give up things they cherish in return for the desperate need and desire for security against a deadly enemy. And so the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace declared in its minutes that it must do whatever it can to bring the United States into war. They also said there were other actions needed, and these were their exact words: “We must control education in the United States.” They realized that was a pretty big order, so they teamed up with the Rockefeller Foundation and the Guggenheim Foundation to pool their financial resources to control education in America in particular, to control the teaching of history. They assigned those areas of responsibility that involved issues relating to domestic affairs to the Rockefeller Foundation, and those issues relating to international affairs were taken on as the responsibility of the Carnegie Endowment. Their first goal was to rewrite the history books, and they discussed at great length how to do that. They approached some of the more prominent historians of the time and presented to them the proposal that they rewrite history to favor the concept of collectivism, but they were turned down flat. Then they decided – and, again, these are their own words, “We must create our own stable of historians.” They selected twenty candidates at the university level who were seeking doctorates in American History. Then they went to the Guggenheim Foundation and said, “Would you grant fellowships to candidates selected by us, who are of the right frame of mind, those who see the value of collectivism as we do? Would you help them to obtain their doctorates so we can then propel them into positions of prominence and leadership in the academic world?” And the answer was “Yes.” So they gathered a list of young men who were seeking their doctorate degrees. They interviewed them, analyzed their attitudes, and chose the twenty they thought were best suited for their purpose. They sent them to London for a briefing. (In a moment I will explain why London is so significant.) At this meeting, they were told what would be expected if and when they win the doctorates they were seeking. They were told they would have to view history, write history, and teach history from the perspective that collectivism was a positive force in the world and was the wave of the future….

I think you can see why that information would be dangerous to the Cabal at that time. Now they are open about rewriting history.

Most recent version of Part 1: The Chasm – LINK

Part 2: Secret Organizations and Hidden Agendas

Part 3: Days of Infamy — This is about various historic false flags.

Part 4: The War on Terrorism

So there are a few meaty bones for the Q Treepers to chew on.

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phoenixrising

Yeeaay! Gail’s in the house… saw an emergency, stepped right in… with a home run!

We love you Lady… thank you so much.

And yes, prayers are up for DePat’s Mom, DePat and family.

pgroup2

I think I have an F-106 model from when I was a kid.

ThanQ, GC, for stepping in.

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cthulhu

Thank you, Gail, for stepping up to fill the need! You done great!

pat frederick

you slap good…
you slap well?

you did good!

barkerjim

Thank You!

Aubergine

Good slap. Thanks!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes indeed!!!

cthulhu

Sad to say, it would probably be prudent to assume “no”.

scott467

Thank you Gail! 👍

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

When you do that it shows up on Thursday when people search for it in the archives.

It’s too late now I know but please reconsider that method for the future.

phoenixrising

report on Ukraine tonight/tomorrow:

🚨 Local Time: 04:47
⚠️ Air raids active across northern, eastern and southern Ukraine.
🚀 Ukrainian monitoring channels reports missile threats in the Sumy and Chernigov regions.
🚀 Missiles reportedly heading in the direction of Cherkassy.
🚀 A second group of missiles flies from the Chernigov region towards the Kiev region.
💥 Explosions in Kiev [Region]
🚀 Missile threat reported in the Dnepropetrovsk and Kirovograd regions.
💥 Explosions reported in Cherkassy Region
🚀 Missiles heading towards the Vinnitsa region
🚀 Ukrainian monitoring channels report most of the missiles are moving towards Western Ukraine.
💥 Further explosions reported in Cherkassy.
🚨 Local Time: 05:46
⚠️ Full house
🚀 Ballistic missiles heading towards the Kharkov region.
💥 Explosions reported in Kharkov.
💥 Explosions reported in Kiev.
🚀 More missiles heading towards Kiev and Kharkov.
💥 More explosions in Kharkov.
💥 Further explosions reported in Kiev
💥 Explosions reported in the Khmelnitsky region.
❗️ The sound of several Kh-101 cruise missiles in the Kiev region.
There is an arrival in the capital, one of the areas is without power.
🚀 Missile threat reported in Ivano-Frankovsk and Ternopol regions.
💥 Kiev Mayor Klitschko confirms the explosion in the Darnitsky district, and also reports problems in the Goloseevsky district of the capital.
🚀 Missiles reported to be heading towards Lvov
💥 Explosion reported in Lvov

The air raid warning is lifted in Ukraine.
In conclusion 404 no longer has any air defense.

pgroup2

Methinks Vlad is tired of the western bullshit and is going to end this war quick.

phoenixrising

My thoughts also pgroup…

phoenixrising

Republican Congressman from Florida Byron Donalds after Zelensky’s speech at the UN in an interview:

Reporter: “What would you say to Zelensky? He will soon ask Congress for money to stop the war in Ukraine.”

BD: “I would say that firstly, the House of Representatives no longer has money for Ukraine. It’s gone… Moreover, we have a deficit of $2 trillion, so the money that we gave to Ukraine, we ourselves borrowed from our future.

These are the facts.

Secondly, he chose not the best time to arrive, given the internal situation [Biden impeachment]

Thirdly, the whole story with Ukraine is a mistake of the Biden administration. If we had a commander-in-chief who would not sleep at world forums, the situation in Ukraine, and in the world, would be much better.”

The voice of the Republican, conservative opposition. And the race factor does not play here.

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kalbokalbs

Wonder how may Ukraine funding lines Byron voted for.

  • As with Most rCONS, voted for laundering money in Ukraine.

Briben AND his criminal administration has earned the most scorn for lying about Ukraine.

  :wpds_arrow:  Just two days ago, Byron championed a CR, that Included Ukraine funding.

>>> Byron seriously needs to get his head, out of his cabal ass. <<<

pgroup2

Wow … that last line is some spicy truth.

scott467

Could be, it will be interesting to see the news later today.

Whatever he’s doing, his approach has been extremely deliberate and purposeful.

And successful.

He has significantly degraded Ukrainian forces, denazifying Ukraine in the process, and so far avoided a larger direct military conflict with the criminal leadership of Western nations.

Until or unless the enemy (i.e., leadership of all Western nations, without exception that I am aware of) changes tactics, or relevant new information comes to light, why would Putin do anything different than what has been working?

kalbokalbs

MeThinks the emerging Poland Ukraine rift is the catalyst, for the apparent, massive missile blitz.

Either way, I am glad it is happening. Want this war to end soon, without WW III.

  • Russia will NOT lose. Russia, winning decisively, may yield lasting peace terms. .
Barb Meier

Ripping off the Biden bandaid.

Deplorable Patriot

Thank you, Gail, and thanks for all the prayers.

My mother was transferred to Saint Louis University this afternoon for a neurological evaluation. The unanimous opinion of medical professionals is that she will never wake up. The CT scan showed so much dead tissue, it’s amazing she’s still alive. There were three blood clots massive in size that caused an unbelievable amount of damage.

That being the case, all five of us kids, and Dad agreed that she would not want to live in a vegetative state (she actually was adamant about that) and the breathing mechanism was to be removed this evening. She will remain in comfort care for now, and will be kept hydrated and on pain meds.

I will let you all know when I know more.

cthulhu

Thank you for sharing the sad news with us. By being shared, the sadness may be diminished, while support is magnified.

Deplorable Patriot

It was amazing how in line all five of us kids were. One brother is in Hawaii, and the other two, for the moment, are in Florida, but we talked all day, and all were on the same page.

Linda

As sad as the news is, that makes it a lot easier that everyone agrees and are following her wishes. Your family is in my prayers, DePat.

TradeBait2

Went through this recently with a sister-in-law. All were on the same page as well. It made it easier to accept and let go of her. Will keep lifting prayers.

phoenixrising

Thank you for updating us (((DePat)))…

prayers continue Dear Lady…

pgroup2

IMO, God is keeping her alive so the family members can be bonded together in their grief and thereby recover more easily than might otherwise be the case.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

Alison

May God bless you and your family, DPat, and may His angels gently carry your Mother to His Kingdom 🙏

In difficult times, the best families rise above all differences and pull together. It is a huge comfort to know your family is sharing this time of difficult decisions in the best way possible.

PAVACA

DePat
God be with you all. As a family in full agreement you followed your mother’s wishes. She is in the hands of the Almighty. I hope it can be arranged for her to have the Last Rites or prayers said by a priest at the bedside.
Stay strong.

Deplorable Patriot

That was done at the first hospital, actually, when we got the diagnosis. Both are Catholic hospitals, so I knew an immoral diagnosis was not coming to us.

It’s hard to fathom right now.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks for this bit of insight. Should we relocate, the nearest hospital matters. And now I know why my favorite hospital was my favorite hospital.

phoenixrising

Here in S Carolina we lost our Catholic hospitals decades ago when private came in … (sad)

Deplorable Patriot

I meant treatment options.

PAVACA

DePat
I believe that most people can still hear, even if they can’t communicate, up until the last moment. I believe they can still feel someone holding their hand, even if they themselves can’t move.
Prayers and meditations ongoing for all of you.

pat frederick

I’m so sorry to hear this. That is a brave decision (one i know i couldn’t make). I’ll keep you all in my prayers.
take care of yourself DePat

Deplorable Patriot

Funny…it wasn’t really hard at all. We heard the lectures over and over. Let nature take its course.

I do think we’re all a bit numb. I mean, it really hasn’t sunk in yet, and probably won’t for a bit.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Praying for you all! 🙏

kalbokalbs

Having had discussions with Mom, very helpful, guiding. Dad and siblings in agreement, comforting. Incredibly sad. Numb, fitting. Prayers for all.

Aubergine

I am very sorry that your family is going through this. I am glad to hear you are all in agreement with each other. Strife makes everything harder.

I’m also glad to know that your mother’s religious rights (and rites) were fulfilled. That is surely comforting to you all.

Thank you for updating us all. That is such a kindness, when you are dealing with your own grief. I will continue praying for comfort and peace for you and your family as you navigate through this.

gil00

Im very sirry you are having to deal with this. The best thing though is you know her wishes and you all have been able to agree to resoect her and make the decision. And she isnt in pain.

Robert Baker

May the God of all peace comfort and strengthen you, your family, relatives, and friends at this time and into the future.

Barb Meier

I’m so sorry, DePat. Prayers for your Mom, you, and your family.

Valerie Curren

💔 💔 🙏 😓 🙏 💔 💔

pgroup2

A couple of thoughts.

The best vaccine for covid-19 is a nicotine patch every day. Yes, I’m quite serious. They figured out that the reason there were virtually no covid cases among the homeless is because damn near all of them are tobacco smokers. Seems that nicotine prevents covid from doing its dirty work on the lungs.

What if … DJT put out a statement that could be interpreted as Ray Epps was secretly working for the white hats [or Trump himself] as a double agent? That would sure light up the leftists like Roman candles. Pure pay-per-view quality entertainment if you ask me.

TheseTruths

Interesting about nicotine. I wonder if there are any statistics about the non-homeless smoking population and COVID.

The second paragraph would be fun…  :wpds_shock: 

kalbokalbs

Nicotine has come up several times over the months. Each time as a prevention. I’ve assumed it to be true. Can’t recall studies, but correlation seemed to be there.

Ray Epps. All I want for that asshole is, 100% reveal his role AND who funded him. How much was he paid, including secret agreements. THEN, prosecute the bastard AND receive sentence exceeding that received J6 Political Prisoners.

NOTHING fun or funny about Ray Epps. IMO.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Too much truth right there.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Because it normally doesn’t matter who wins the election.

Normally.

TheseTruths

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scott467

So refuse any gag order.

We’re not in any kind of scenario that involves rule of law anyway, because rule of law doesn’t exist anymore. So why should one side (always ours) keep pretending?

If Brandon is above the law, so is DJT.

But for fun, DJT could adopt the Katie Hopkins Technique, where instead he says positive things about Brandon in ways that are… open to interpretation.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sadly, I have to agree. This DOJ is off the rails. They’re Soviet. Sickening.

TheseTruths

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scott467

And the Derp State vows to nullify their votes so Brandon wins Hawaii in a landslide anyway.

Nice try though…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup.

TheseTruths

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scott467

And the entire Brandon Crime Family, and the entire Brandon administration, including the Dept. of Just-Us.

TheseTruths

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scott467

Giving a whole new meaning to the term ‘mock debates’, and viewership would exceed Super Bowl levels 👍😂

pgroup2

We could call them ‘mocking debates’ so there’s no confusion.

Aubergine

Can you imagine the drinking game we could come up with for this?

I don’t generally pay money to watch stuff on TV, but I would pay for that!

kalbokalbs

More viewers on OAN, RSBN, YT watching Trump shreds D-Rats, than viewing on Pravda News.

  • Pravada News and -Rats crying, It’s Not Fair.

That is assuming the D-rats even hold a “debate.”

TheseTruths
scott467

A) all allegations are automatically suspect as part of the Left’s “Kavanaugh” tactic (and before Kavanaugh it was used against Clarence Thomas) of having unprovable allegations from decades past suddenly surface when they need to destroy someone

B) Brand is innocent until proven guilty — and when the Left is making the accusations, the Left is guilty of a wrap-up smear campaign until proven innocent

.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The dude is quite awesome!

Deplorable Patriot

And to make matters more complex, a girl I went to grade school with, and a little HS, passed away.

There’s simply not enough Jameson and gin today.

PAVACA

DePat
Buy a couple more bottles and I’ll reimburse you. No, I’m not kidding.

itswoot

A nightmare come true. It’s gut-wrenching for many of us knowing what you are going through.

Aubergine

That is sad. You (and she) are young. Damn this fake quackzine.

PAVACA

DePat
I’m sorry to hear of this. May she rest in eternal Peace.

cthulhu

To pass the time……

scott467

Second Las Vegas juvenile suspect arrested in intentional hit-and-run death of retired police chief:
Andreas Probst, 64, was riding a bicycle when a vehicle appeared to intentionally fatally hit him on Aug. 14 by two teenage suspects in a vehicle who recorded the incident, police said
________________

No mention of the race of the murderers, family does the Marquess of Queensberry routine:

“We ask you please do not politicize his death or use it for culture wars.”

And mixes in some ‘Battered White Person Syndrome’ routine:

“She attributed the violence against her father to social media and “decayed family values,” adding that she didn’t [think] racism or his former profession played a part in his death.”

In related news, police were unable to find any black people the murderers ran down.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Clearly the suspects didn’t take part in any “Old White Male Lives Matter” protests!

kalbokalbs

Murder. NOT, Hit and Run. 100%, Intentional, Murder.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The horrible MSM could not even admit hit-and-run – they called it a “bike crash”!!!

But yes – I agree. A “joyride hit-and-run” is the perfect cover for a hit job. Even the “filming for social media” is perfect cover for “proof of deed”.

scott467

I’m still not clear why so many think it was a hit job.

The police chief is retired, so it would not be related to any active case.

The conversation leading up to the murder sounds organic, like two typical young male psychopaths who have been conditioned by society to believe white lives don’t matter.

The two thugs who did the murder may be stupid (they sound like it), but if it was a hit, the person who paid for it likely isn’t stupid.

If it was a planned hit, why involve two people instead of one? Two people costs twice as much, and two people can turn on each other (or their boss) during interrogation if they’re caught.

If it was a hit, why record it and then post the video?

If it was a hit, why not use a gun and then get rid of it, instead of damaging the car by hitting someone with it, leaving evidence of the crime from which you can’t distance yourself?

pat frederick

i tend to agree with you.
i think they were 2 privileged teens who thought the law wouldn’t apply to them.
juveniles are getting with murder…these 2 thought that meant literally

para59r

Retired and out of state means he doesn’t have his cops to protect him. He’s in the wild so to speak.

The convo is too short. You may well of joined at the point of intercept.
There was little talk of hitting hitting him as if it was an agreed upon thing before the filming began.

May of been a revenge hit. Perhaps someone cleaning up loose ends. People trying to get a reputation for themselves or a larger gang or mob..

The two simply work together or one guy likes to have his hand held. Maybe to add to their cover story because they are hitting a high level cop and just have to know they are going to be caught.

Video is to get paid and or establish cred/reputation.

They wanted it to be public enough knowledge in certain circles that it was a hit.

So now ask. How rare it is to have some white guy get mowed down by car and have it filmed? Still fairly rare. Now add to it being a cop. Now add to it being a recently retired police chief?

scott467

“Retired and out of state means he doesn’t have his cops to protect him. He’s in the wild so to speak.”

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Okay, but even if he was on the job in Cali, he would have been out riding a bicycle alone. Easy target either way, nobody would have been able to protect him either way, unless he had security that went everywhere with him.

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“The convo is too short. You may well of joined at the point of intercept.
There was little talk of hitting hitting him as if it was an agreed upon thing before the filming began.”

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Okay, I didn’t hear that. It sounded to me like they were out for a drive somewhere, saw a target of opportunity, and like they were playing a video game, thought it would be fun to just end someone’s life, for no other reason than because they could, and because the victim was white of course.

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“May of been a revenge hit. Perhaps someone cleaning up loose ends. People trying to get a reputation for themselves or a larger gang or mob..”

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Could be all of those things, or any of those things, or none of those things. As far as I know, there is no evidence for any of those possibilities, unless I missed it.

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“The two simply work together or one guy likes to have his hand held.”

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If it was a ‘hit’, somebody’s got to pay for it. If it was a ‘hit’ on a cop, that’s not a small thing.

Two people costs more than one, but provides zero advantage (if the hit was ordered to be done by running him over, one person can do that), while bringing multiple disadvantages to the proposal.

If money was no issue, then you hire someone who doesn’t need his hand held.

If money IS an issue, then you don’t hire two people when it will always be cheaper to hire one, unless someone is working for free.

So whether money is an issue or it isn’t, it doesn’t make sense for two people to be involved if the method of the ‘hit’ was to run somebody over.

And if you’re the person paying for the hit, you don’t want any tag-along or anyone working for free, because you don’t have any leverage over that person, as you would if you paid them cash up front to do a job.

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“Maybe to add to their cover story because they are hitting a high level cop and just have to know they are going to be caught.”

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If you know you’re going to get caught, then you’re not the right person to do the job 😂

This should be death penalty mandatory, so I hope they were paid really well for it.

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“Video is to get paid and or establish cred/reputation.”

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I guess that might work as far as recording it on a cell phone and showing it to the person who paid for the ‘hit’ as proof, before destroying the phone.

Not the kind of evidence I would want to be carrying around with me, not to mention that it’s a TRACKING device, which is going to seriously complicate my alibi if I do happen to get caught.

But what explains posting the video on social media (which I thought they did, though I could be wrong about that), besides wanting to be caught?

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“They wanted it to be public enough knowledge in certain circles that it was a hit.”

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What good is establishing a reputation or street cred, if you’re on death row because of it?

Especially if they knew it was a cop, which they had to if it was a ‘hit’, then they had to know that the cops weren’t just going to stand down and do nothing besides document the crime scene like they do with most other murders.

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“So now ask. How rare it is to have some white guy get mowed down by car and have it filmed? Still fairly rare.”

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No idea how rare it is to use a car as the murder weapon, but black people murdering white people for fun isn’t rare at all.

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“Now add to it being a cop. Now add to it being a recently retired police chief?”

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There must be thousands of retired cops in America, and at least hundreds of retired police chiefs.

It’s not common for retired cops or police chiefs to get hunted down and murdered. At least it didn’t used to be. Maybe it is common in Columbia, or Mexico, or El Salvador (before President Bukele locked up the gangs).

If it was common, the retired police chief would have had security, and he wouldn’t have been out riding his bike, alone.

It’s certainly POSSIBLE that this was a premeditated murder.

I just don’t know what facts or evidence, so far, lead to that conclusion.

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para59r

I must still be stuck on the NYC Federal Judge that was killed by the Harry Potter lady Nastasia Snape, age 23 when she drove her car around traffic and up onto the side walk before running down the judge ,who was on vacation while in Boca Raton, Florida ,and then crashing a half mile from the scene of the accident. comment image

Can’t seem to find a final status of on Harry Potter any where, but since then a Governor Tim Pawlenty appointed Judge from Minnesota was run down while jogging on vacation in Venice, Florida. Apparently no information from any story about the driver and most of the stories no longer function. From a comment, the driver was cited at the scene and released.
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Anyway, coincidences or not I can’t help but have the feeling these sort of things have a chilling effect on those charged with enforcing the law.

scott467

I just don’t understand crime very well.

The more people involved, the more things that can go wrong.

Also, I don’t know where the original idea that it was a gang hit comes from. Is it just purely a guess? I have seen no mention anywhere for any rational reason that it may have been an intentional ‘hit’, only speculation.

Is there any evidence, at all, that it was a ‘hit’?

Did I just miss it?

para59r

Yes, 100% Intentional Murder and also very likely an organized crime hit by a low or high level mob.

Police Chief from a demoncrap suburb in Los Angles (they only hire the ones of their own ilk). Unless this was some sort of saintly suburb in LA, which I’d hope is possible, no telling what kind of shady stuff he was involved in or witnessed.

Apparently perps will be tried as adults. If that happens it may well mean the two punks will get wiped out while in jail before they wake up and start talking.

pat frederick

Leo Donofrio, Esq.
@LCDLAW1
Aug 23 • 6 tweets • 2 min read Twitter logo Read on Twitter

1/3 Jack Smith’s case in SDFL is on the verge of collapse for his ABUSE of a DC GJ. Judge Cannon identified a problem & DEMANDED briefing on the issue by Nauta, inviting Trump’s attorneys to also respond. They joined Nauta’s response. I’m NOT happy they failed to file separately.

2/3 Smith’s 8.22.23 response is an attempt to GASLIGHT Cannon:

“When the [Govt] started the [GJ]
investigation in [DC], it could not know the full scope of the evidence that
would be gathered, but from the outset, the investigation encompassed conduct that spanned [DC & FL]..”

3/3 “From the outset” the only “conduct” Smith mentions taking place in DC was while Trump was POTUS. It’s IMPOSSIBLE for his actions IN DC re Pres. Records to be criminal. So Smith’s INITIAL use of DC GJ was gross misconduct & the only offense in DC resulted from DOJ misconduct.

4/4 This is CIRCULAR MISCONDUCT in abusing a DC GJ:

“[T]he investigation uncovered evidence of federal offenses in both districts.”

The ONLY offense in DC is an alleged perjury during an IMPROPER use of GJ in DC to investigate allegations that took place EXCLUSIVELY in Florida.

5/5 Every Count in the Indictment lists the date of offense as having begun AFTER Trump was no longer POTUS. Hence, the Indictment contains an ADMISSION by DOJ that no offense did – OR EVER COULD HAVE – taken place in DC👇:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1694289197157306453.html

pat frederick

substack from the same guy…long and detailed but he deconstructs the FARA regs and jack’s case
https://leodonofrio.substack.com/p/all-31-espionage-act-counts-must

pat frederick

i thought so too!

pgroup2

Do we have pics?  😂 

kalbokalbs

When the case is dismissed.

Hope Judge Cannon.

  • Directs DOJ pay ALL legal costs of Trump and ALL those charged by Jack The Hack Smith.
  • Demands Jack appear before her. Judge Cannon, very publicly, shred Jack’s abuse of Trump’s Rights, justice system.
  • Demand a public apology from Jack AND DOJ.

It appears to Slow Guy, Jack, his criminal minions AND DOJ, Actions ARE criminal.

  • Prosecute these assholes.
  • Turn The Tables.

Simply dismissing the charges, which IS warranted, IS NOT good enough.

pat frederick

retribution.
pay for your crimes

phoenixrising

via zerohedge

NATO Fractures: In U-Turn, Poland Announces It Will No Longer Arm Ukraine

The dam is breaking on unified Western support for Ukraine, and the timing couldn’t be worse for Zelensky, given tomorrow he’s expected to meet with President Biden at the White House. On Wednesday evening there is monumental news out of Poland which could potentially change the entire course of the war.

“Poland will no longer arm Ukraine to focus on its own defense,” Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki announced just hours after Warsaw summoned Ukraine’s ambassador related to a fresh war of words and spat over blocked grain, according to the AFP. Warsaw has throughout more than a year-and-a-half of the Ukraine-Russia war been Kiev’s staunchest and most outspoken supporter.

Will this massive and hugely significant about-face mark the beginning of the end? Are peace negotiations and ceding of territory in the Donbas inevitable at this
point? 

con’t https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-fractures-u-turn-poland-announces-will-no-longer-arm-ukraine

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Larry’s latest:

DID POLAND JUST TORPEDO NATO AND UKRAINE?

Sure looks like it. AFP is reporting that:

Poland will no longer arm Ukraine to focus on its own defence, Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Wednesday, a few hours after Warsaw summoned Kyiv’s ambassador amid a row over grain exports.

To quote Andrei Martyanov, WOWSER! Remember the collapse of the Kakhovka Dam in Ukraine in the early hours of 6 June 2023, which caused extensive flooding along the lower Dnieper river? This is worse. This may explain the “Grumpy Gus” visage adorning Zelensky, his crew, as well as John Kerry and Antony Blinken yesterday at the UN General Assembly during Biden’s awful speech.

DID POLAND JUST TORPEDO NATO AND UKRAINE?20 September 2023 by Larry Johnson 64 Comments

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Sure looks like it. AFP is reporting that:

Poland will no longer arm Ukraine to focus on its own defence, Polish prime minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Wednesday, a few hours after Warsaw summoned Kyiv’s ambassador amid a row over grain exports.

To quote Andrei Martyanov, WOWSER! Remember the collapse of the Kakhovka Dam in Ukraine in the early hours of 6 June 2023, which caused extensive flooding along the lower Dnieper river? This is worse. This may explain the “Grumpy Gus” visage adorning Zelensky, his crew, as well as John Kerry and Antony Blinken yesterday at the UN General Assembly during Biden’s awful speech.

comment imageDid Ukraine and U.S. Delegation Just Learn About Poland’s Volte Face?

It is true that Biden’s speech sucked, but it was not the kind of debacle that would justify the facial expressions of dismay and anger. I think the Ukrainian/U.S. crew were stewing over impending bad news from Poland.

Initial press reports said that Poland’s leader, Duda , cancelled a previously scheduled meeting with Zelensky as Poland rallied a coalition of European nations to extend a ban on Ukrainian grain exports. The Associated Press reported:

con’t https://sonar21.com/did-poland-just-torpedo-nato-and-ukraine/

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phoenixrising

FTA:

Meanwhile, if you have any doubts that the United States is the number one country in the World for military “interventions” just take a look at this report from the U.S. Congressional Research Service, Instances of Use of United States Armed Forces Abroad 1798 – 2023. Since 1991, the United States has launched more than 200 military operations in foreign countries. Russia and China combined have been involved in less than 20 such activities. Just think about those numbers the next time you hear some American politician bloviate about the imperial ambitions of Russia and China. To paraphrase comedian Jeff Foxworthy, “If you launch an average of 9 foreign invasions a year you might be an Imperialist.”

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/details?prodcode=R42738

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pgroup2

Surprised that Goering didn’t end up with tenure at San Francisco State.

WSB

Russia and China infiltrate more than send armies. Let’s create a new category, Alex…

phoenixrising

Comment lifted from Larry’s blog:

Since the millennia, NATO nations have modernized Ukraine and Poland to become the 2nd and 3rd largest military in Europe. During the same period EU Nations has paid for the modernized of Polish and Ukrainian infrastructure via subsidies from the EU.

All this was done with the expectation by Globalists that Poland would take up the NATO Spear against Russia, if Ukraine was defeated.

Now that Ukraine is defeated, NATO, the EU and Globalist Banksters are expecting to collect on the investments. They want Poland to pick up the NATO spear.

However, yesterday Poland dropped the NATO lance at the UN tournament.

But will keep it large modernized military and infrastructure, thank you.

I wonder how the EU politicians were looking during the UN meeting.

However when German Chancler scholz entered the podium to speak, the UN auditorium was empty.

kalbokalbs

Coincidence? Nope.

Putin going for the Kill Shot.

  • Massive missile strikes across Ukraine.
  • Knowing a huge rift opening between Poland AND Ukraine.

Maybe our cowardly Congress, may stop funding the Ukraine money laundering scheme.

phoenixrising

Fingers crossed!

kalbokalbs

Done. Today and last week. 🙂

WSB

Zelensky in the high-chair?

phoenixrising

Another lifted comment:

What a day! Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his beautiful wife Asma arrived on an official visit to the People’s Republic of China, where they were welcomed with the highest honors.

Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman said in an interview with Fox News that recent talks with the Houthis could end the war in Yemen.

Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said on the Polsat channel that relations between Warsaw and Kyiv are now in a “terrible state”.

Russophobic German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock said she could not support Russia’s expulsion from the veto-wielding UN Security Council.

The Western player at the head of Armenia Nikol Pashinyan experienced a debacle in the war conflict with Azerbaijan.

During the night, the Russian Air Force outclassed the Ukrainian Air Defense Forces and hit numerous targets housing the personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The videos show the complete helplessness of the Patriots when the Russian missiles arrived. At the same time, the Ukrainian attack on Crimea was completely repelled.

20 ships carrying migrants from Africa arrived on the Italian island of Lampedusa in the last 24 hours. Now there are 18 thousand migrants on the island with a population of five thousand Italians.



What a day! Now I wonder if Putin should stop or continue to exhaust west empire of lies.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Joe Briben and GLOBAMA continue their destruction of everything they touch, but more and more, they are SELF-DESTRUCTING.

kalbokalbs

Latter can’t happen soon enough.

para59r

Huge increase from the last numbers we saw. The last numbers on Lampedusa were 6,000 residents and 10,000 invaders as indicated by this tweet exchange on Sep 18

Juanita Broaddrick

This is not by accident. It’s a planned destabilization of everything we have known as a functional society. You can bet Soros is behind it.

End Wokeness

@EndWokeness

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Sep 17

10k military-age men storm an Italian island in a span of 3 days, outnumbering the 6k who live there

This is happening all across the West but on a more subtle scale. Western civilization as we know it will be gone within a generation.

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Thursday, September 21, 2023

“A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good…” 

Luke 6:45 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

PAVACA

duchess01
Thank you for these. Prayers ongoing for you here and at Marica’s blog. Be well.

kalbokalbs

Missing from the article, or I missed it.

Western governments, including USG, ARE causing the food crisis to increase.

  • ALL of the Green BS ARE contributing factors.

What could be the Primary Motivator? >>>DePop.<<< That simple. DePop.

The Great Reset Links It All.

  • Covidiot. Covidiot Injections. RSV hype. MonkeyPox hype. War on fuels. War on farmers. Open Borders. Dwindling food supplies. Ukraine.
pat frederick

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TradeBait2

Thanks for all of your efforts, Gail.

phoenixrising

On the eve of Zelensky’s visit to Washington for money, Fox News host Laura Ingraham is perplexed with Missouri Republican Senator Josh Hawley.

– At some point, the American people will still intervene in all this. Because another 4 years for Biden will undoubtedly result in another 4 years of war for America. Do we need this? Another 4 years of war?

– No, America doesn’t want this and America doesn’t need this. Laura, I just learned today from a brief from the administration that the latest request for 24 billion is not the end of the story, far from it! They want us to continue to unfasten directly to the Ukrainian authorities indefinitely. Year after year, hundreds of billions of dollars. But this is funny. What is the plan? Do they have an understanding of where the limit is? They have no such understanding! Instead of investing in the United States… Laura, we need to stop this. Some kind of nonsense…

via https://t.me/VA_Nikonov/16193

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I posted about this yesterday, and once before that… Hawley is referring to the perpetual Memo of Understanding (MOU) USG has with Israel, authorized by the president only …
(see latest https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2016/09/14/fact-sheet-memorandum-understanding-reached-israel)

Biden is asking for the same perpetual MOU with Ukraine, authorized by him, as president … in his words “to prevent any future president from withholding funds to Ukraine” (Israel 2.0, according to Nuland, and affirmed by Max Blumenthal in his 9/2/2023 speech to Rand Paul Institute

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kalbokalbs

Not to rekindle yesterday’s news….

From a few years ago…

gil00

Oh i had forgotten about his involvement w Rittenhouse.

singingsoul1

Woods also said to republicans not to vote for senator after the 2020 presidential election .

kalbokalbs

Have not watched this one yet. Betting it’ll be superb.

Tucker Carlson Interviews Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton

Robert Baker

A good interview. It really emphasizes the catastrophe of the mail-in voter fraud. It also identifies several enemies of the American people including Karl Rove, the Speaker of the Texas House, Senator Cornyn, and the Bush family. Tucker is doing righteous work.

kalbokalbs

Yea. Paxon’s thoughts very enlightening. Texas politics rigged via Soros bucks.

Rove is lower than whale shit. As are the Bushies.

pat frederick

isn’t this a gorgeous pic???
burnetto44 from tcth

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phoenixrising

It’s beautiful! Thank you …

and Good Morning! Hope you are well …

pat frederick

Morning phoenix!
i loved playing in the leaves wen i was a kid!
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phoenixrising

AWW… makes my heart smile … thank you …!

grew up on the coast … Palmettos and Live Oaks …

no leaves to play in …

pat frederick

awwww….it was one of my favorite times of the year!
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phoenixrising

well, I have lots of leaves now in my woods!

WSB

Vermont?

WSB

I LOVE both, I live near both but I always go with bug spray!!!!! College kids and old hippies!!!

❤️

WSB

I used to make floor plans out of the leaves I was raking. Then I became in interior architect!

LOL!

gil00

Hes a very fall color too.

kalbokalbs

Nature’s Beauty. Love it!

WSB

Exquisite…

phoenixrising

via https://t.me/VA_Nikonov/16203

“Zelensky’s bad moment”: Seymour Hersh in a new article conveyed the opinion of the American intelligence services – Russia won in Ukraine, the counter-offensive failed, but the White House continues to lie.

“Many in the U.S. intelligence community believe that a demoralized Ukrainian army has given up the opportunity to penetrate heavily mined, three-layered Russian defense lines and take the military conflict into Crimea and the four regions captured by Russia. The reality is that Vladimir Zelensky’s battered army no longer has any chance of victory.

✔️The military conflict continues because Zelensky insists it has to be so, an official with access to recent intelligence told me. Neither his headquarters nor the Biden White House are discussing a ceasefire or interested in negotiations that could lead to an end to the carnage.

✔️“It’s all a lie,” the official said of Ukraine’s claims of gradual progress in the offensive. According to him, after several weeks of huge losses and little progress, along with horrific losses in tanks and armored vehicles, the main units of the Ukrainian army, without announcing it, effectively called off the offensive.

✔️Biden, backed by Secretary of State Blinken and National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan — but with diminishing support elsewhere in America — has turned his relentless financial and moral support for the military conflict in Ukraine into a do-or-die matter for his re-election.

✔️The US intelligence official I spoke with respects Putin’s intelligence but condemns his decision to start a military conflict with Ukraine. And he told me: “The war is over. Russia won. There is no more Ukrainian offensive, but the White House and the American media must continue to lie. The truth is that if the Ukrainian army is ordered to continue its offensive, the army will mutiny. “Soldiers don’t want to die anymore, but that doesn’t match the Biden White House’s bullshit.”

phoenixrising

WHOA!

reported via https://t.me/VA_Nikonov/16194

The Russian government has introduced a temporary restriction on the export of gasoline and diesel to stabilize the domestic market

Also see: https://tass.com/economy/1678431

https://oilprice.com/

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/oil-prices-fall-ahead-more-central-bank-steers-interest-rates-2023-09-21/

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kalbokalbs

Unexpected move. Wonder, what is the rest of the story.

phoenixrising

Comment lifted from MoA blog – makes sense… the term ‘pincher’ comes to mind

The argument is that prices have risen in RF and supply is constrained due to excessive exports. Perhaps. Perhaps. However, a more likely reason is that there is an opportunity to engage in a little asymmetric warfare (principally with Europe) now that the oil market has tightened significantly and deliver great pain to their economies.

People might think due to the hype around EVs and the like, that diesel demand is decreasing and not a major issue. However, all trucks, buses, and trains that aren’t somehow EV (and there aren’t many of these) rely on diesel. The curb will turn the screws on Europe and also the US since it is also experiencing a tight market with the added bonus of really pleasing buyers of Russian crude (think China and India) who can now resell higher priced oil derivatives to the West.

A very simple decision with a good cover (gasoline and diesel prices have risen in the RF) that will have a depressing effect on Western economies and even drive up inflation. Since UKr is supplied from Europe, this will increase the cost of EU’s support. A good way to increase discontent at the present policy.

One has to think this is a really nice action in terms of max pain with minimum cost. The word “brilliant” springs to mind. And the timing couldn’t be better with all the blovation about stopping Russian oil.

and a reply to this:

Perhaps indeed, all food moves on diesel. Throughout history that’s what really breaks governments. Russians have the fuel, Russians have the grain. Doesn’t have to be 100%, just the percentage needed to bust things up

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phoenixrising

… to me,  Russia limiting export sounds like a diplomatic way of saying we are sanctioning the West without looking like walking in the Empire’s nasty footsteps. Oil, gas, grain, uranium, now diesel – energy and food, hybrid part is also escalating.

Robert Baker

The obvious downside consequence to that theory (which, by the way, I think is accurate) is to allow the West to justify to their citizens that going to war with Russia is legitimate.

phoenixrising

Good point …

Robert Baker

I am not suggesting that the government actually cares what the citizen thinks. It will merely be the propaganda approach used by the media. For a while longer the government must appear to be acting legitimately.

mollypitcher5

The other side of that coin is that the illegitimate govt has prepped for the possible uprising by weeding out patriots in military, arming equally corrupt agencies like irs and others, setting up special units like Pelosi’s nationwide Capitol police force.

The populace at large is unprepared to fight and no cohesive force can be united with the pervasive cyber police monitoring every avenue

mollypitcher5

Sincerely hoping you’re right

phoenixrising

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/gop-lawmakers-warn-white-house-ukraine-aid-mccarthy-vows-confront-zelensky

forked tongue? ckout the colors of his lapel ‘hanky’ … also visible on at least one other in photo…

FTA:

https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1704712551999721479?s=20

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gil00

He has beenba politician far too l9ng to he trusted.

phoenixrising

The Washington Post and others are meanwhile reporting on a new letter that GOP Congressional leaders sent the White House, which vows to reject the $24 billion in Ukraine aid

In a letter viewed by The Wall Street Journal, the group says it is rejecting President Biden’s request for an additional $24 billion in security, economic and humanitarian aid. The lawmakers said they have concerns about the more than $100 billion in funding Congress already has approved, complained that the administration supports an “open-ended commitment” to Ukraine and criticized what they say is an unclear strategy. It is signed by 23 House members and six senators, led by Sen. J.D. Vance (R., Ohio) and Rep. Chip Roy (R., Texas), and addressed to Shalanda Young, the director of the White House Office of Management and Budget.

Among the other signatories is Sen. Rand Paul, who has said, “It’s as if no one has noticed that we have no extra money to send to Ukraine.” He further pointed out that “Our deficit this year will exceed $1.5 trillion. Borrowing money from China to send it to Ukraine makes no sense.”

And Sen. Vance on the proposed spending bill said: “Now you hear people talking about the long haul. Well, is the long haul a year, $100 billion, in 10 years, a trillion dollars?”

pat frederick

a naturalized mother and an immigrant father who never took a citizenship test.
hmmmmmm…does that disqualify him or not???

from tcth

jim
September 21, 2023 10:32 am

NBC reports that Vivek states that his father is not a citizen and that his mother became one after his birth.
“In a sit-down interview with NBC News on Tuesday, Ramaswamy noted that his father is not a U.S. citizen and never took the test. “He did not. And that’s a choice that he has made for familial reasons,” Ramaswamy said.”
https://www.aol.com/news/vivek-ramaswamy-shares-familys-citizenship-090000847.html

PAVACA

This means that Ramaswamy IS NOT ELIGIBLE to be President OR Vice President of the United States. Ramaswamy is basically an illegal anchor baby (if the 14th Amendment were to be applied as it was intended to be.)

pat frederick

i suspected as such…so who’s responsibility is it to actually disqualify him and bring it to the public’s attention?

WSB

Nimratta, Kamala, Obama…

pat frederick

turning it over to his son i believe

Winston
September 21, 2023 10:21 am

Rupert Murdoch steps down as chairman of Fox and News Corp
SEP 21 2023
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/21/rupert-murdoch-steps-down-as-chairman-of-fox-and-news-corp.html

PAVACA

Gail Combs
Thank you for stepping into the breach and providing the opener for today.

Alison

Gail, thank you for providing such a meaty opener and stepping up quickly as a perfect substitute for DPat. I’m so thankful for all here who contribute daily sustenance 💖 We are here on earth for such a short time. It is a privilege and a blessing to have found such patriots to weather the storms.

DPat and her family will be in our prayers and thoughts today, especially for her father 🙏

singingsoul1

Amen

PAVACA

THIS BLOWS THE ENTIRE COVID-19 “VACCINE” ISSUE OUT OF THE WATER.

THE COVID-19 “VACCINES” WERE DELIBERATELY FORMULATED (AND STILL ARE BEING DELIBERATELY FORMULATED) AS DANGEROUS BIOWEAPONS.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/09/21/proof-positive-covid-19-vaccines-deliberately-formulated-as-an-extremely-injurious-and-lethal-bioweapon/
via State of the Nation

State of the Nation article is here:
https://stateofthenation.co/?p=187249

Yours Truly: University of South Carolina professor Phillip Buckhaults, PhD, conducted experiments to find out if, and if so, how much, DNA contamination is in the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 “vaccines.” Dr. Buckhaults is a cancer genome researcher.
Dr. Buckhaults summarized his findings in his testimony to the South Carolina Senate Medical Affairs committee.

Dr. Buckhaults found that that there are 200 BILLION pieces of PLAMID DNA in a SINGLE injection of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 “vaccine.”
He found that the process of cloning these DNA pieces and attaching them to the LIPID NANOPARTICLES in the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 “vaccine” IS DIFFERENT FROM THE DATA THAT THE COMPANY GAVE TO THE FDA PRIOR TO THE FIRST EUA THAT THE FDA GRANTED FOR THE “VACCINE” IN DECEMBER 2020.

The Burning Platform article has comments and discussion by a board-certified Integrative Medicine doctor.
This doctor finds that after people is “vaccinated”, they undergo many changes:
Their DNA is altered.
Their emotional / psychological state and/or balance is altered and always for the worse.
Cancer is induced.
Existing cancers are re-established.
Turbo-cancers are induced.
SADS
A host of other types of “vaccine”-induced conditions begin to present.
Existing conditions are increased or aggravated.

The doctor calls the COVID-19 “vaccines” and their dangerous / deadly effects a “slow-motion Extinction Level Event.”
From the doctor: “That’s because the extremely negative impacts to the immune system — post-vaccination — described by Dr. Buckhaults are profoundly affecting every vaxxed individual’s capacity to generate a normal immune response.” (bolding mine)
In other words — THE IMMUNE SYSTEM OF EVERY “VACCINATED” PERSON IS BEING DESTROYED BY THE COVID-19 “VACCINES” IN THEIR BODY.

The questions that come to mind are these:
One: Who told Pfizer-BioNTech to go ahead and use the different “vaccine”-making process AFTER the company had given their initial data to the FDA in the summer / early fall of 2020 in order to get the first EUA for use in the United States in December 2020?

Two: Who at Pfizer-BioNTech OK’d the different “vaccine”-making process?

PAVACA

Other questions:
Three: What did Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, and Albert Bourla, among others, know, and when did they know it?

Four: Was information about this change of “vaccine”-making process kept from President Donald Trump?

kalbokalbs

  :wpds_arrow:  The doctor calls the COVID-19 “vaccines” and their dangerous / deadly effects a “slow-motion Extinction Level Event.”

  :wpds_arrow:  THE IMMUNE SYSTEM OF EVERY “VACCINATED” PERSON IS BEING DESTROYED BY THE COVID-19 “VACCINES” IN THEIR BODY.

mollypitcher5

Something I’ve noticed. In addition to the many sudden deaths is a lot of brain cancers, aneurisms, deaths during giving birth or shortly after, celebrity news of their newly diagnosed chronic illnesses.

Here’s also something, it may be that it’s always happened and I didn’t take notice but..it seems a new phenomenon.
High school and college football players exhibiting very aggressive behavior. After each weekend of football there’s a few articles about players being badly injured during late hits, on field scuffles and late fouls. IDK, I might be “seeing” things that aren’t there

PAVACA

Correction: should read, PLASMID DNA.

pat frederick

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gil00

Rupert Murdoch, the 92-year-old Australian media magnate whose creation of Fox News made him a force in American politics, is stepping down as leader of both Fox’s parent company and his News Corp. media holdings.
Fox said Thursday that Murdoch would become chairman emeritus of both companies, effective at board meetings in November. His son, Lachlan, will become News Corp. chairman and continue as chief executive officer of Fox Corp.
Lachlan Murdoch said that “we are grateful that he will serve as chairman emeritus and know he will continue to provide valued counsel to both companies.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/rupert-murdoch-creator-fox-news-132807764.html

mollypitcher5

That gives me a ‘ couple of weeks to flatten the curve’ feel to it. Promises to calm the angry horde.

phoenixrising

I’m puzzled … why don’t tweets open in my posts?

kalbokalbs

phoenixrising

Thanks Kal … 😉

phoenixrising

well, he never knows when his neighbor might attack him… or his wife…

kalbokalbs

Works OK for me with Brave.

pat frederick

Filly noticed if you copy the url directly from the address line (it shows twitter.com instead of x.com) they will open.

phoenixrising

Thanks Pat…

pat frederick

thank Filly–she’s the one who figured that out!

phoenixrising

will do!

phoenixrising

McCarthy Fails For 2nd Time To Advance Bill Funding Defense Department As Ukraine Sows Division
Update(12:20ET): With Zelensky in Capitol Hill, and with Ukraine aid hanging in the balance, Kevin McCarthy has failed for a second time to advance a bill funding the Defense Department, which keeps the government on a path toward a shutdown on Oct. 1. Politico has reported secret, urgent cross-aisle talks as follows: “Small groups of centrist Democrats are holding secret talks with several of McCarthy’s close GOP allies about a last-ditch deal to fund the government, according to more than a half-dozen people familiar with the discussions.”

  • The House voted 212-216 against moving the funding bill to a final vote: Axios
barkerjim

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RedLegLeader68

That would be us: Boomers: 77 & 71 … lovin’ every day ,,,

TheseTruths

Charlie Kirk:

This is the Democrats’ GOTV machine in one picture. Hundreds of orgs and companies that are funded to the tune of $ billions. The right has nothing equivalent.

It’s a plug and replace “ballot laundering” machine that works regardless of the candidate they put in place.

The Democrats know this machine can get any of their candidates a 3% boost, but not 4-6%

3rd party candidates, Joe and Kamala polling at historically bad levels, and Trump’s resiliency all put their model into question.

Dem panic ensues.