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20200403: Cartel War 2.0 ~ Day 1

We’re throwing this subject open to the board, Group Project! If you have info, please post. If we’ve learned one thing at QTree, we know the contributors here work together exceptionally well, masterful at overturning obscure information.

Let’s connect the data point dots and see what we can find.

Data Point #1: Yesterday, at the White House Presser, General Milley took the podium and announced he was in possession of “certain intelligence” indicating the Drug Cartels intended to take advantage of the COVID problem in the USA and use the perceived weakness to create new markets in the USA.

General Milley didn’t like that idea too much.

Data Point #2: We remember March 26th, when Bill Barr, Attorney General of the USA “took out a hit”/offered 15 million USD on President Maduro of Venezuela, citing a litany of charges, indictments for 16 members of his staff for Narco-Terror, with a major investigation from SDNY, claiming Venezuela was a Narco State. Note: Among these charges, the leader of the Supreme Court of Venezuela was indicted for taking a bribe to nationalize an American company. Wow. It has to be connected. When was the last time we saw the DOJ working with the US Military in what amounts to a joint operation? I can’t think of one…. Project Cassandra?

Data Point #3: Tuesday, October 23, 2018, Vice President Mike Pence traveled to Latin America to meet with leaders about the Migrant Caravans, designed to make the President and Repubs look bad before the 2018 mid-term elections. What we did not expect was Pence’s revelation as to the cause of the caravans.

Pence on Tuesday said Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez told him the caravan “was organized by leftist groups in Honduras financed by Venezuela and sent north to challenge our sovereignty and challenge our border.”

https://news.yahoo.com/maduro-labels-pence-madman-venezuela-caravan-011109066.html

Data Point #4: We are all aware of the problem in Venezuela with Maduro, the Dictator who will not leave, and Juan Guido, elected by the representatives of the people as the chosen replacement until official elections can be held. We remember President Trump’s speech on Venezuela, at FIU in Florida, February 18, 2019. It was one of his best speeches of his Presidency.

Q Tree ran a live thread on the President’s speech found here: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/02/21/the-venezuela-speechtrump-doctrine-against-socialism-communism-transcript-and-reaction/

Data Point #5: We also remember Cuban military surrounds and protects Maduro and thus, has a stranglehold on the levers of power in Venezuela. Everyone know it. Just ask the Cubans, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans in Miami. The people in Miami rallied and waved flags, demanding “No more dictators in Nicaragua, Cuba, nor Venezuela“:

Data Point #6: We were all surprised when Pence told us Maduro was financing the caravans. I mean, where did Maduro get the money to spend on caravans and why wasn’t Maduro spending the money on his own people……. enter……. China. Maduro walked away with a 5BILLION dollar “loan” from the Chinese for joining the “Silk Road Initiative”

  • September 17, 2018: Maduro was in Beijing for 4 days. Maduro secures 5 BillionUSD “loan” from China. Maduro and Xi sign 28 different bi-lateral agreements between the two countries. Maduro notes China has supported Venezuela since 1999. Hmmmm….. : https://venezuelanalysis.com/news/14056

Data Point #7: April 1, 2019: Suddenly, high ranking Chinese military officials arrive in Venezuela with “humanitarian supplies”. https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/04/major-chinese-military-personnel-arrive-in-venezuela-with-humanitarian-supplies/

It was a spooky site. Friday, March 29th – China PLA personnel pose with members of Venezuela’s FANB

Data Point #8: But of course, the Russians were also in Venezuela.

  • March 28, 2019: Putin tells Trump Russian troops will remain in Venezuela: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/russia-trump-venezuela-us-military-troops-latest-a8844546.html From President Trump: ““Russia has to get out. What’s your next question,” he said. Asked if that message had been delivered to Moscow, he replied: “They know. They know very well.”
  • December 2018: And let’s not forget when Russia landed the bombers in Venezuela. Not good: “The pair of TU-160 supersonic bombers, known as “White Swans” by Russian pilots, landed at Maiquetia airport near Caracas on Monday after covering more than 6,200 miles. Russian President Vladimir Putin sent the fighter bombers in as a show of support for the South American country’s government in direct warning to Donald Trump’s America Russia’s Defence Ministry said the bombers were accompanied by two other Russian military planes, but did not say if the planes were carrying missiles, how long they would stay for, or what their mission was. The show of strength comes just days after Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, whose left-wing administration is the most significant US foe in Latin America, held talks with Mr Putin in Moscow.” https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1057377/world-war-3-russia-US-russia-bombers-venezuela-putin-news

Data Point #9: Don’t forget the Iranians and their proxy, Hezbollah. They’re also active in Venezuela.

Data Point #10: Plus, the Cubans, heavily embedded in Venezuela. We can see the strong influence of Cuba when Cuban special forces are surrounding President Maduro:

https://www.localbuzzot.com/2019/02/08/cuban-guards-surrounding-venezuelas-maduro-us-military-commander-says/

Data Point #11: Thus, we have a Dictator in Maduro who will not leave and persecutes his own people in Venezuela. Maduro made friends with Cuba, Russia, Iran/Hezbollah, and China………. all of our enemies. Allowing these countries “into” the American hemisphere is explicitly against our stated foreign policy. Why are they here? Why were they allowed to remain? Why didn’t our past Presidents run the bad actors out of town…… from our own back yard?

As if having our enemies in the back yard wasn’t bad enough, now, it seems, they have joined forces with the Mexican Cartels, trying to create a new air route into Mexico (from the presser yesterday), according to Bill Barr and General Milley…… which presents a far greater problem to the USA and threatens our national security.

Data Point #12: The Mexican Cartels. Many books have been written on this subject and we’re all familiar with the violence and corruption of the cartels. Thanks to Dep, here is a handy map of their “turf” to keep as a reference.

Data Point #13: Remember when Obrador was elected President of Mexico and everyone thought he was a hard communist and would be no friend to the USA? And remember when Obrador was flexing his muscles and shouting insults at President Trump? Remember all that???? The fight was over illegal immigration. Until President Trump threatened a 5% tariff on all Mexican goods? And suddenly, everything changed?

  • May 30, 2019: From the NYTimes: Mexico sent the United States $346.5 billion of goods last year — meaning that a 5 percent tariff on those products would amount to a tax increase of more than $17 billion. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/us/politics/trump-mexico-tariffs.html
  • Everyone thought Trump was crazy. Repub Senators shrieked at the idea of tariffs on Mexico,………. but it worked. And almost overnight, we had 27K Mexican troops on the southern border and the caravans stopped.

Data Point #14: November 2019: Remember when the large family (9 USA citizens) was killed by cartels in northern Mexico and Trump offered to help President Obrador go to war with the cartels?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=yV1ImYr0b_Y&feature=emb_logo
  • November 27, 2019: (Not that long ago) President Trump toys with the idea of designating the Cartels as Terror Organizations. “U.S. President Donald Trump said he will designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorist groups for their role in trafficking narcotics and people, prompting a speedy request for talks by Mexico.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-mexico-cartels-idUSKBN1Y02NJ
  • Guess it’s not just about drugs, eh? It’s about DRUGS AND PEOPLE.
  • Conservative media figure Bill O’Reilly asked President Trump on Tuesday whether he was going to designate the cartels as terror groups and “start hitting them with drones”. The president said: “They will be designated… I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process.” He added that he had told Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador that the US was willing to launch operations against the cartels inside Mexico. “I’ve already offered him to let us go in and clean it out and he so far has rejected the offer but at some point something has to be done,” Mr Trump said.
  • Yet, by December 6, 2019, President Trump backed down on the designation because Obrador “asked him not to”. Trump continued, ““All necessary work has been completed to declare Mexican Cartels terrorist organizations,” he confirmed on Friday. “Statutorily we are ready to do so.” https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/06/donald-trump-backs-down-on-plan-to-designate-mexican-cartels-terrorist/ Interesting note: U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr met with Obrador on Thursday to discuss the president’s proposal, which the Mexican president criticized as “interventionism” and a “flagrant violation of our sovereignty.” Obrador also cited President Obama’s failed gunrunning operation “Fast and Furious” as an example of how the United States only made violence worse in Mexico.

Yes indeed………….

How incredibly interesting that AG Bill Barr, President Obrador, and President Trump have been in discussions for MONTHS, and statutorily, the USA is/was ready to go, designate the Cartels as Terrorists, go after their finances, track them, ready the military, etc. And here’s the key point according to the Breitbart article above, President Trump told Brietbart he was thinking about it as far back as last March. “In March, Trump told Breitbart News that he was thinking “very seriously” about the idea.” ~~~~~~ Well, according to General Milley in the WH presser yesterday, our Naval ships left port in Norfolk and are already in the Caribbean. That doesn’t happen overnight.

Data Point #15: Let’s not forget Columbia is also part of the problem, and specifically mentioned yesterday.

  • Or that Pence and our officials spent a LOT of time in Columbia trying to get aid to the Venezuelan people.
  • Or that Columbian President Duque showed up at the White House, “suddenly”.

Data Point #16: President Duque meets President Trump in the White House on March 2nd a month ago and in the middle of COVID. According to the transcript, President Trump said, “This was scheduled very quickly, over the weekend, and we look forward to meeting. We’re going to have representatives on both sides. Many things to talk about.” https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/02/president-trump-meets-with-president-duque-of-columbia-video-and-transcript/

Which brings us all to the White House presser yesterday. Gee, that’s a lot of power standing together. Full muscle of the American people.

Also joining the President for the press briefing were U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr, Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Michael Gilday, Commandant of the Coast Guard Admiral Karl Schultz, Sec of Defense Mark Esper, and National Security Adviser Robert O’Brien.
  • President Donald Trump made the announcement saying, “Today the United States is launching enhanced counter-narcotics operations in the Western hemisphere to protect the American people from the deadly scourge of illegal narcotics. We must not let the drug cartels exploit the pandemic to threaten American lives.” The Commander-in-Chief said the U.S. military will double its assets in the Caribbean and as it works with twenty-two partner nations in an offensive against “malign actors” who would take advantage of the emergency situation.
  • Mark Esper, Secretary of Defense, “At a time when the Nation and the Department of Defense are focused on protecting the American people from the spread of the coronavirus, we also remain vigilant to the many other threats our country faces. Today, at the President’s direction, the Dept. of Defense, at close cooperation with our inter-agency partners, began enhanced counter-narcotics operations in the eastern Pacific Ocean and the Caribbean Sea.”
  • General Mike Milley, Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, issued a stern warning to America’s potential adversaries saying, “We’re at war with COVID-19. We’re at war with terrorists. We are at war with the drug cartels as well. But this is the United States military, you will not penetrate this country, you will not get past Jump Street, … We will marshall whatever assets are required to prevent your entrance into this country.”
  • AG Bill Barr: “One of our highest priorities must remain destroying the Mexican Cartels….. kills in excess of 70,000 Americans per year…… destroys lives…. drains our national treasure” and then Bill Barr said, “We’re not interested in half-measures. This is not just a law enforcement issue, it’s also a National Security issue.” Turning to the President, Bill Barr said, “Building on your success and cooperation with President Obrador, I went down to meet………” and “We’ve had some successful visits” (note the plural “visits”.
  • Yeah, this is big. Here is the full presser. The beginning is the announcement and details on the Cartel War.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=eRKRE7OglD8&feature=emb_logo

All thoughts and comments are welcome. Can’t wait to see what you guys come up with.

Let’s connect the dots.

20200403: Dear KMAG, Open Thread

Welcome to Friday’s OPEN THREAD at the QTree! Thank you for the Thursday hand-off TrumpIsMine. Thank you to Wolfie for keeping us all up and running. What would we do without FLEP’s News Roundup? Thank you, Flep. Hat tip and a hearty thank you to Wheatie, Dep, BakoCarl, Michael, Steve in Colorado, all our science contributors and the lurkers!

We don’t believe in political correctness at QTree. Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it. This board will remain a REFUGE for those who need civility, either some or all of the time. Important Guidelines are outlined here in the January 1st open thread, with an addendum on 20191110. In other words, please keep it SOMEWHAT civil. We have a new board – actually a new SITE – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

These are historic times. We’ve lost 10 million jobs in the past two weeks and people are hurting. Today is Oil Sector Day at the White House, another looming crisis. All the big CEOs will be there.

After playing victim to OPEC for almost our entire lives, the USA, under President Trump/Wilbur Ross/Secretary Perry, finally gained Energy dominance as the #1 producer of Oil and LNG. If was a glorious feeling after sitting on the bench for generations.

But now, the toddlers are playing in our sandbox. Saudi and Russia are trying to use the CoronaVirus nightmare to knock out our frackers and harm our leadership in the sector. The toddlers are over-supplying the market, flooding, over-producing, and the price per barrel dropped to around $20/barrel. Anything below $40/barrel is losing money and directly affects over 6 million American jobs. We’re looking at a wasteland in PA, Ohio, ND, and our blessed Texas if the crisis continues. President Trump called MBS yesterday and reportedly, they have agreed to reduce supply by 10 million barrels.

Might be time for President Trump to break up the impasse between Saudi and Russia. Saudi has called for an Emergency Meeting of OPEC, and the President alluded to “another option” which he hoped he would not have to do. Hmmmmm……

We hope you all are doing well under an “almost quarantine”. We’ve been trying new recipes in the kitchen, and my “honey-do” list for projects around the house is growing. Glad we received good news on Sylvia and please, everyone, remember to take your vitamins.

We’ll get through it all, together. We’re Americans, and Aussies, and Brits. It’s what we do. Remember to say a little prayer for the President, his team and family, the truck drivers, and every worker who stays late to stock the shelves. Throw up an extra prayer for the police, fire, and all the medical staff. They need all the help they can get. And PRAY for the Hydroxychloroquine + Zpack cocktail to work, and save our fellow Americans from the scourge from China.

Remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone 

We’ll meet at Wheatie’s tree house in the morning. I made a cherry pie. We can have pie for breakfast, right?

20200402: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

20200401: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRKRE7OglD8

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

4-1-2020 Midweek Musings

5th Sunday of Lent
March 29, 2020
“Death Is Never the End”

Ezekiel 37:12-14
Romans 8:8-11
John 11:1-45

My Brothers and Sisters in the Lord –

A fundamental part of our human nature is that we all want to live. We want desperately to stay alive. We do all that we can to preserve our life. Furthermore, we don’t want to lose our loved ones in death. The loss of a beloved spouse is heart-wrenching. The loss of a child can almost destroy us – because children should live far beyond the life-span of their parents.

Consequently, we resist death at all costs. Because death is the end of all that we have here – at least for us. Consequently, some will even go to extraordinary lengths to keep themselves – or loved ones – alive in a hospital setting. As a result, patients must now have an “Advanced Directive” prepared before any surgery will be undertaken.

Our human bodies are simply not built to live forever. We age and grow older. We are subject to accident, sickness, and disease. Eventually, at some moment, life here will end for every one of us – For there is no escape from physical death.

However, we were created with more than a body. We also have a soul, created by God. And this soul will transcend our physical death and live forever because it is immortal. This knowledge should give all of us hope and a sense of wonder.

Unfortunately, people didn’t always know this, or believe this was possible. For them, death was truly the end. They could, at best, live in the memory of others – or, perhaps, in a monument erected on their behalf.

The prophet Ezekiel wrote for the exiled people in Babylon who had no hope. They knew nothing about a life after death. Yet, God revealed, through Ezekiel, that there would be a resurrection, someday. They would rise from their graves and be enlivened by the Spirit of God. They would have life in a new homeland that exceeded even their wildest dreams of restoration!

One of the reasons that God sent Jesus into the world was to make it clear that we could live forever beyond our life here. God sent His Son to reveal His goodness, His love, and His mercy. Jesus also made it clear that death was not the end.

Indeed, if we lived truly godly lives – if we embraced the Gospel – if we entered into a relationship with Jesus – then, after our life here, we could live forever in the presence of God. This would be in a state of eternal joy, and bliss, and love!

The raising of Lazarus was not a true resurrection. Lazarus would, someday, undergo death again. But the miracle was a sign of things to come. Moreover, it gave credibility to the teachings of Jesus – It brought many doubters to belief – And it made the enemies of Jesus more resolved to destroy him!

However, we must do more than merely believe in Jesus – We must also transform our lives to live up to what his commandments require and demand!

We cannot live by the “flesh” of which St. Paul speaks in today’s New Testament reading. Not at all! Instead, we must live by the “spirit”. By “flesh”, St. Paul means all those things which deflect us from our orientation to God. “Flesh” is much more than eroticism. It is anything of the material order that leads us to be selfish and self-serving. This includes pride, greed, lust, anger, sloth, envy, and scandal. All these things dehumanize us and keep us from being the child of God whom He created for so much more!

Brothers and Sisters, if we live in the “spirit”, then the Holy Spirit of God will possess us and direct all that we do. If we live in the spirit, we become one with the Holy Spirit and are truly brothers and sisters of Jesus, himself. And, as such, we are co-heirs with him in the Kingdom of Heaven wherein we will live after our own resurrection whenever that day comes.

So, we need not fear death. Death is never the end of life. We can live each day in hope for something more – something infinitely more! Consequently, let us pray, that we are up to this great calling – and that God will grace us with whatever we need to fulfill it!

Amen.

March 29, 2020 Msgr. Russell G. Terra
Saint Joseph Roman Catholic Church, Redding, CA
*http://www.stjosephredding.org/parish-homilies.html

20200331: Important New Info About Origins of China Virus

It was the top red siren Drudge Link for almost 24 hours and is an important read. Bill Gertz is the National Security Expert for Washington Examiner. He’s also a highly respected expert on SARS virus and has written about China for for over 30yrs. Here is the link: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/

Bill Gertz was also interviewed today on multiple outlets (He was everywhere today). Here he is on War Room Pandemic, from about 4:25 minutes to about 11 minutes into the program.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fR5I9osXY0

Here’s what happened:

Shanghai Media Group published a video which Bill Gertz found, overlooked by many. The video is of a Chinese employee for their CDC, Tian Junhua ( https://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/tian-junhua/ ) who works for the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the national center for China’s bat virus research. Tian Junhua is NOT a doctor, but has been lionized in the media as the “bat virus” guy because he has isolated over 300 different bat viri.

The video obtained by Gertz shows Tian Junhua collecting samples of bat guano in caves in Hubei province. Tian Junhua casually mentions “I am not a doctor, but I work to cure and save people,” Mr. Tian says in the video. “I am not a soldier, but I work to safeguard an invisible national defense line.” Okay, he sees himself as a valuable member of society doing good work. Yet, Tian continues, “”As long as I am not getting sick during the incubation period of 14 days, I can be lucky to get away with it,” he said.

What does he mean by “… as long as I’m not getting sick” and “I can be lucky” and what is this about Tian knowing about a 14 day protocol?

Which led Bill Gertz to MORE questions. Are you ready for it?

The public speculated a great deal about the P4 virus lab, The Institute of Virology, in Wuhan, one of the few in the world, built by the French for the Chinese to study SARS, etc. Yet, the Wuhan Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) is a DIFFERENT facility, and only a Security level #2. THAT’s where the bat virus research was taking place, NOT at the highly secure P4 lab.

Yep, there are TWO facilities and we learn later on, MANY more facilities where bat virus is studied throughout China…………………. WUT?

The Chinese video “Youth in the Wild — Invisible Defender” records researchers engaged in casual handling of bats containing deadly viri. The seven-minute film boasts that China has “taken the lead” in global virus research and uncovered over 2,000 viruses in the past 12 years, the time since the outbreak of the bat-origin virus that causes severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS)……

Prior to China’s discoveries, an estimated 2,284 types of viri had been found in the previous 200 years, the video says.

Chinese state media outlets revealed that Mr. Tian once failed to wear protective gear in a cave and as a result came into contact with bat urine. To avoid contracting a disease, he self-quarantined for 14 days — the same recommended period for people exposed to the new COVID-19 strain.…..

Mr. Tian works for the office of decontamination and biological disease vector prevention and control within the Wuhan CDC. According to a May 2017 report by the Wuhan Evening News, Mr. Tian has gathered thousands of bats for research work on bat viruses since 2012.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/

Why is a guy who works at a security level 2 lab gathering thousands of samples and not adhering to rigorous protective protocols when handling some of the most deadly diseases known to man? “Until the recent outbreak, all but two coronaviruses in China were studied at biosafety level-2 (BSL-2) facilities — not the high-security BSL-4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — “which provides only minimal protections against infection of lab workers,” said Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, a Rutgers University professor at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology.”

That’s not what we thought, was it…….?

“Shenzhen News, a publication of the Guangdong Communist Youth League, described in December how Mr. Tian shuttled through caves and jungles looking for viri in bats and ticks, called “vector organisms,” in the quest to develop vaccines.” He’s been doing this for a long time, at least since 2012. No mention of hazmat suits in the jungle while gathering samples and Professor Ebright was shocked at Tian’s lack of protective gear.

Here’s the kicker: Tian Juhua, the “bat hunter”, has recently disappeared. Searching the Wuhan CDC website since the novel coronavirus outbreak contains no reference to Mr. Tian, his work, or that he co-authored at least two scientific studies on the Wuhan virus and its impact. “Efforts to reach Mr. Tian were not successful.” and “A spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington did not return an email seeking comment.” Yep, Tian has been scrubbed from the website and has disappeared.

From the USA State Dept: ““He lives and works at Wuhan’s CDC, a few hundred yards away from the Huanan wet market,” the official said. “He is among the small team in Wuhan that has contributed to China’s obsession in recent years with virus hunting and research.””

Were you under the assumption the viruses were being studied at the Level 4 Lab? I know I was. In fact, deeper in the Gertz article, from Professor Ebright we learn, that bat viri are studied in labs ……….. all over China. Huh?

The Wuhan Institute of Virology is the big and secure level 4 lab, but all the real work on bat virus was being done across town, about 3 miles away from the Wet Market. ….Which leads us back to Bill Gertz, his discussions with Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, the professor from Rutgers, ……. and the Gertz interview with Steve Bannon on War Room Pandemic.

This means it is highly probably the virus may have escaped as part of research from the Level 2 lab in one of 4 ways, it is a real possibility, and China needs to open the records of both labs to the world:

  1. The virus could have leaked from a sample in transit from the cave back to the CDC in China.
  2. It could have leaked from the Level 2 laboratory.
  3. It could have leaked if the Level 2 lab transported live virus to the Level 4 lab.
  4. The virus could have leaked from the Inst of Virology, the Level 4 Lab.

We need some answers.

Ebright continued in the Washington Examiner article (emphasis is mine):

“Virus collection, culture, isolation or animal infection at BSL-2 with a virus having the transmission characteristics of the outbreak virus would pose high risk of accidental infection of a lab worker, and from the lab worker, the public,” he said.

Mr. Ebright said the Chinese video shows Wuhan CDC workers under Mr. Tian’s direction with inadequate personal protective equipment and unsafe practices, including exposed faces and wrists and a lack of goggles or face shields. Such practices “would pose substantial risk of infection with a virus having transmission properties similar to those of the outbreak virus,” he said.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/

Many western scientists accept the official CCP party line, “Virus was not a bioweapon and did not escape from a lab.”

Steven W. Mosher, however, takes a cynical view. Mosher is a China specialist with the Population Research Institute and said China has been doing research for years on Horseshoe Bat coronavirus, like SARS, detailed in scientific journals, ones which could be harmful and infect humans directly, just like SARS. Mr. Mosher said, “They write about genetically engineering new and deadly viri capable of infecting human lung tissue — just like the Wuhan flu does.”

Bill Gertz found the news report from 2017 and the video was made in 2019.

******UPDATE******

Tucker Carlson did an entire segment on this very story. Senator Cruz wonders why the MSM is not reporting on this story. Well, the Q TREE did report, and we beat Tucker Carlson on the scoop. We really are the news now.

Research Paper from the guys at South China Inst of Technology, now scrubbed. We found it. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1228664201452765185.html PDF: https://www.scribd.com/document/447056518/Originsof2019-NCoV-XiaoB-Res#from_embed

20200331: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

Thank you Flep, for the transcript link to presser: Here is the transcript from yesterday’s press briefing: https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-remarks-by-president-trump-vice-president-pen-1842617556

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

20200330: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

20200329: CoronaCRISIS/ China Virus Daily Thread

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdhJZNxbq3c&feature=emb_logo
Transcript found at: https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-remarks-by-president-trump-in-a-meeting-with-s-1842549869

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

Dear KMAG: 20200329 Open Topic

This Superlative Sanctuary Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

It’s also a place to read, post and discuss news that’s worth knowing and sharing. Please post links to any news stories that you use as sources or quote from.

In the QTree, we’re a friendly and civil lot, unencumbered by political correctness. We encourage free speech and the open exchange and civil discussion of different ideas. Topics aren’t constrained, and sound logic is highly encouraged, all built on a solid foundation of truth and established facts.

We have a policy of mutual respect, shown by civility. Civility encourages discussions, promotes objectivity and rational thought in discourse, and camaraderie in the participants – characteristics we strive toward in our Q Tree community.

Please show respect and consideration for your fellow QTreepers.

Before hitting the “post” button, please proofread your post and make sure you’re addressing the issue only, and not trying to confront another poster.

If you feel the need to bare your fangs, we have a companion site – called The U Tree – where all legal speech is allowed and where you can run wild and free with the Wolfpack.

But NOT HERE in The Q Tree. Personal attacks, name calling, ridicule, insults, baiting and other conduct for which a penalty flag would be thrown are VERBOTEN.

In The Q Tree, we’re compatriots, sitting around the campfire, roasting hot dogs, making s’mores and discussing, agreeing, and disagreeing about whatever interests us. This board will remain a home for those who seek respectful conversations.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here. Let’s not give the Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven that Wolf has created for us.

The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.

AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO DRAIN THE SWAMP!!!

Our movement is about replacing a failed and CORRUPT political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, you can find something here that will build you up a little . . . give you a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

Is It Well With Your Soul?

As interesting as it may be, diving into the intrigue, speculation, players and possible results of a seemingly planned and executed world-wide flu pandemic, it might be beneficial to step back and remember that:

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood,
but against the rulers, against the authorities,
against the powers of this dark world
and against the spiritual forces of evil
in the heavenly realms.

Throughout history, God has been instructing mankind about the consequences of chasing after sin and about the benefits of following Him.

God allows evil to exert its influence on man, from within and without.  Man, invariably, will be enticed by evil’s schemes.  After a time, God steps in and destroys evil’s scheme, being merciful to man and giving mankind an opportunity to learn, repent and follow Him.

Adam and Eve in Eden, Noah and the Flood, the Tower of Babel, the 10 plagues in Egypt, the Exodus, 40 years in the desert, the 10 Commandments, the conquest of the Promised Land, the good and bad kings of Israel, Esther and Haman, Daniel and the Satraps, David and Bathsheba, the arrival, ministry, rejection and crucifixion of Jesus, the Messiah, and two destructions of the Temple in Jerusalem are a few of the more well-known examples of evil’s influence, mankind’s weakness and opportunities to learn, repent and follow God.

We see this process in historical and recent world events and also in current world events and our daily lives.

The current deadly and injurious coronavirus flu pandemic is a good example.  We know there are certain players in this drama that are not acting out of the best interests of all involved.  The major players might be the government of China, the Communist Party, scientists and organizations that have sold their allegiance for money, Marxists and others who want to see America and her people destroyed and even certain members of the House, Senate, current administration and others.  These people are motivated by lust for power, love of money and desire for fame.

The thing of it is, these people really aren’t the major players . . . they’re 2nd rate bit actors at best.  The major players are the evil powers of this world and in the heavenly realms.

God and His heavenly beings are in opposition to the evil powers of this world and in the heavenly realms. Although God could simply destroy all evil powers with a word from His mouth, He has chosen, for His purposes and plans, to allow evil limited powers and capabilities in their interactions with His heavenly beings and mankind. This is the great battle that is being waged in realms that are visible to us and other realms that are not visible to us.

God uses mankind to implement elements of His will on earth. In that manner, we may be participants in this great battle, and may not merely be spectators. We are to wear the armor of God so that we can stand in this battle. But, whatever our involvement, God has already won the war . . . it must, however, be played out to complete God’s will and plan for mankind.

In this present struggle we may become fearful of getting sick, of the discomfort and pain, and for the loss of our lives. All of this is very much real, but since each of us will die sometime, our main concern should be for the condition of our souls.

And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear the One who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.  Matthew 10:28

Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.  1 Peter 5:8

Therefore we must pay much closer attention to what we have heard, lest we drift away from it.  Hebrews 2:1

We can’t allow ourselves to be consumed with either fear or the desire for justice or vengeance.

If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.   Romans 12:18-19

Our prize is not now, nor of this world. But, someday in the future, probably after our brief lives have been completed, we will by command, at the shout, at the last trump, be called to become eternal citizens of our true homeland. Pain and sorrow and the sickness of our present world will be left far behind, along with our present perspective of the flu and the world.

Last thoughts for the present time:

If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.  2 Chronicles 7:14

Another thought for this time of upheaval in our lives:

Anxiety, fear and loss of control;
You fear for your life, but what of your soul?
Of all things true, man was born and will die
And then the Judgment by our Lord on High.

We pray for revival, all over our land,
That we turn to God and His merciful hand.
Let us be humble and ever seek His face,
His peace, His joy and His bountiful grace.

The Armor of God – Ephesians 6

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. 11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God; 18 praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, being watchful to this end with all perseverance and supplication for all the saints—