“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
A couple of days ago there was some more discussion of nattokinase for helping lower the blood pressure spike many people are seeing after Covid or unfortunately having taken the vaxx. Some here, including RAC and TradeBait2 have had success with it, and I take it daily for general cardiovascular health.
Today, I talked to another man I know who had the shots (sick wife, long story) and had a high blood pressure episode two weeks ago that put him in the emergency room. He was already on Losartan, but it failed to keep his pressure down. He was in the 200/170 range, stroke territory.
I recommended that he try nattokinase, as I mentioned here in comments a few days ago. His pressure dropped 20 points within a few days. It’s now been a week on the natto. His pressure this morning was down 60 points, and in the normal range!
Gail Combs posted this information about nattokinase a few days ago:
Nattokinase is an extracelluar enzyme secreted by the bacterium Bacillus subtilis, used to ferment boiled or steamed soybeans resulting in a preparation called nattō. Nattō has been consumed as food in Japan for several centuries. Nattokinase is also available as a supplement and is most known for its effects on prevention and treatment of clots and to improve blood circulation.
Nattokinase may help prevent clot formation and reduce blood pressure. It has not been tested as a cancer treatment in humans.
Nattokinase is an enzyme produced from nattō, a traditional Japanese food made from soybeans fermented with the bacterium, Bacillus subtilis. Lab studies suggest it can break down fibrin in the blood that forms clots or affect some factors that characterize Alzheimer’s disease. Human studies are limited, and suggest nattokinase may reduce high blood pressure. Although nattokinase has been promoted as an alternative anticancer treatment, clinical studies have not been conducted.
Nattokinase may increase the risk of bleeding in patients when used with blood-thinning drugs….
I know this is anecdotal information, but I think it is fantastic! Nattokinase is natural and much less likely to have side effects than a pharmaceutical, so if you have high blood pressure issues, from Covid, clot-shot, or otherwise, you might want to take a good look at the research and try it!
Same as above. Probably active. WHERE it’s active is important. Use with caution, because depends on the patient and what exactly is being treated and why. But I do think that the known mechanism will launch a bunch of drug opportunities at all levels. 2 Reply
Well, part of the reason I am so partial to “natural” and herbal remedies is there are generally FAR fewer side effects and contraindications. There are some, of course, but way less than pharmaceuticals. Nattokinase is derived from a food source. If you wouldn’t have a bad reaction to the food, then the derivative is unlikely to hurt you.
When a person is at death’s door, I think it is time to throw the kitchen sink at the illness. 5 Reply
The reason why the safest off-label drugs (like HCQ and ivermectin) are employable “hail Mary” drugs is the same – unlikely to cause a fatal reaction even if “wrong”. And I would say this makes these drugs more “tryable” LONG before “death’s door”.
The window of “tryability” should be directly or even exponentially proportional to safety. 3 Reply
THE FORCE that becomes FORCES THE FORCES that become THINGS THE THINGS that become LIFE THE LIFE that becomes KNOWLEDGE THE COMPUTER that BUILDS ITSELF From a BLUEPRINT it tries to DISCOVER
And – if some theories are correct – an infinite number of different universes that never worked that way.
In a related story, I have been trying to help, through a friend, a woman who was hospitalized for Covid. I mentioned it here; she is the one who was unvaxxed and told by the doctor that “you didn’t take the vaccine, so now you get to die.” The person I am in contact with is her daughter, who is her advocate.
Apparently, Mom has a better doctor now who is at least willing to listen. I sent the information about the nattokinase to daughter yesterday, with information about its utility against clots, and a study about fibrin clotting in Covid. I warned her the doctor might want to use a pharmaceutical instead of a natural product to be more aggressive.
Today I got a message that she is being given a “new” drug, only the fourth person in the hospital to get it. The second person who received it went home yesterday. It’s called Baricitinib:
According to the above, they are administering this with Remdesivir, which I hope does not happen in my friend’s case. However, the interesting part of this is that baricitinib is a janus kinase inhibitor. Well, lo and behold, nattokinase:
“In vivo, the level of cyclic Adenosine Monophosphate (cAMP) and the pathway of the Janus Kinase1/Signal Transducers and Activators of Transcription1 (JAK1/STAT1) were studied……Results showed that Nattokinase (NK) significantly increased the cAMP level, activated the signal passage of JAK1/STAT1 in injured part and inhibited remarkably the rise of platelet intracellular Ca(2+) ([Ca(2+)]i) in human platelet.”
So it seems the doctor may have listened after all, but decided on the pharmaceutical instead of the natural. Fine by me, I hope it works.
Also interesting? Baricitinib is used for rheumatoid arthritis, just like hydroxychloroquine!
Given the above, I will have nattokinase on hand as part of my “defensive arsenal.” My hope is none of us here are ever at the mercy of a hospital or doctor. Having the natto on hand seems like another way to avoid it.