This SPECIAL D5 Minus 4 Saturday open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments. Keep it civil. Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
No illegalities, please. And hopefully Deep State has enough problems as it is, to LEAVE US ALONE!
Thank you! 😉
W
PS – I was walking with the dog at dusk last night, and had a restlessness of spirit that counted two wolves and a moon. I could not find the third wolf.
One Wolf who tells stories to many
Another Wolf who tells truths to few
A bright full Moon over a distant land
One Wolf missing, now has been found
The tweet in Q’s post:
I’ve been seeing tweets on Joe M’s twitter feed…that GHWB’s nickname all his life was ‘Benji’.
Wow.
@Wheatie, interesting.
Seriously? Life imitating art …
This is just creepy as all get out. So…what does he was a rescue mean?
Dog from the pound – often with NO information.
People are wondering if Comey’s tweet was a coded call for a “rescue”…for Him.
HusseinO visited GHWB last week.
Hmmm.
Interesting.
And Comey’s tweet about ‘Benji’ was dated 11/14/18.
Comey has been trying to fight having to testify.
Will this postpone it?
I hope not!
That same Twitter thread showed that Bush senior was a “rescue ,” in that he was adopted .
how about the sheer coincidence of a discussion at this very site of canus lupus?!?!?!
honestly just a coincidence i am sure but wow – heard the word and meaning twice in a week… i think i mentioned coincidence and synchronycity a couple weeks back… good times!
just realized i left out the part about the conversation happened at this site last week regarding the wolf, the wolf dog, and domestic dogs… the scientific name and genus were stated – it was very interesting and educational. then this q post happened and i immediately remembered that post 🙂 ivthink steveinCO was involved with a few others possibly.
just coincidences. well i treat all things respect even coincidences!
Yesterday I facetiously “interpreted” the Q Christmas Tree post as Q wishing Merry Christmas to those of us at Q Tree. Now with the wolf reference I am really wondering!
NebraskaFilly was the other major participant, in fact she began it.
Yep – immediately hit me as well when I read the drop! Coinkidink? One has to wonder……did that start with talking about this “permit” system they wanted in Loudoun Cty, VA? I think that was what started it but don’t recall for sure.
Who knows?
I do know if this site is SO important as to be mentioned on Q, then we’d all better mind our Ps and (ahem) Qs.
PS I found that convo interesting and learned quite a lot, mostly going off and reading Wikipedia (which is good for stuff like that, less so for politicized topics).
I did, too! Just can’t imagine how that could be politicized, yet, here we are! Oh, my……surely not? CAN’T have any relevance, can it? Brrr…..
Anyone have a link to the post? Not a coincidence, IMO.
When I read the long drop about the “Experts” I immediately thought Joe D. and SD. Bottom half sounds much like SD’s position about POTUS tweets re: Sessions. Several subtle references to Joe, as he had some strong thoughts about Sessions. Did Joe advocate for a second SC?
Q says the doubters will pay.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/monroe-salt-works-crow-pie-plate-507682346
i cannot search comments i am pretty sure, but someone else can get it quick…
i was not trying to draw any conclusions mind you – but coincidences, especially very detailed ones (in this case involving a specific topic and even mention of genus name) do make me pause and think. coincidences i feel have meaning sometimes, much like dejavu, and other associated phenomena. some people never “experience” these things, and that is fine, some people do and dismiss them, others experience and file away for analysis 🙂
Jungian Synchronicity is likely what you are describing. You are likely very open to your right brain hemisphere (RBH), which is scanning the environment through your peripheral vision, drawing your attention to meaningful events / occurrences. So your RBH spots something and focuses your attention via your conscious mind onto it.
Some people have this going on all the time, others when they are experiencing some sort of crisis, which breaks down the egoic “wall” between the brain hemispheres.
People who are dominated by their egos do not normally experience this at all. These people express certainty and tend to be arrogant towards and dismissive of people with differing points of view. These people cannot tolerate something like Q – remind you of something that has happened to most here?
What I have described above is the mechanistic features of this – it would seem to go much deeper than I have mentioned to date …
Anyway, I intend to be blogging on aspects of this next year, together with my personal journey, which has been rather “out there”.
17 minute delta between Q posting “Watch the news” and GHWB’s death
https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4096787.html#4097013
And now, for something completely different….
ROTFL!!
Golly, he would have made a terrific butler. He has the perfect face for it.
Too much helping himself from the liquor cabinet, I fear.
There was that report a while back that he was hitting the bottle very hard …
If I were him I’d have to drink to quiet my conscience, too.
He’s just minding his Pints and [Q]uarts.
“Shall I alert the media?”
Hi Curry! Glad to see you here!
Getting thicker and thicker, that’s for sure. Q making huge numbers of drops.
Everyone stay safe!
Five hundred seventy two days since CTH (Can’t Tolerate Heterodoxy) gave me the boot, starting a trend, apparently. More jump on the BannedWagon every day!
Not that I’m counting, mind you.
Not minding at all! 😉
Potus tweet about GHWB’s passing:
This screencap from the Anons shows it with a different timestamp:
Time zones?
Yep…that happens quite a bit with tweets.
As for Q, it could simply be he has sources inside the family and knew GHWB was on his deathbed.
Or he’s been on ice for a bit.
It becomes him well.
Matches his fervor to protect our Republic. Cold.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
It’s no secret that GHWB absolutely hated Pres Bush.
Remember the cut-his-throat hand signal that Pappy Bush made at that debate during the primaries?
So…did GHWB leave ‘instructions’ to keep Pres Bush away from his funeral?
Like McStain did?
There will be lots of nevertrumpers at that funeral, to be sure.
It will be like a reunion.
I am really not looking forward to a week-long procession of ‘farewell to Pres Bush’.
Since he was a president…and a veteran…they will no doubt be trying to out-do the long sendoff that McStain received.
Did you mean President Trump … twice? (line 2, line 4)
lol
I also noticed the “illuminati-ng” reference. (I read the entire statement as the OPPOSITE of what the words said!)
Yes! ….Ooops.
Thank you.
I can’t believe I wrote ‘Bush’ instead of ‘Trump’ — twice!
And I even proof read it.
I’m an idiot.
LIKE does not equal ENDORSE! 😉
I liked it even though I don’t think Wheatietoo is an idiot.
Starting to remind me of Nancy Pelosi!!!
S’ok, Wheatie!
Just a tiny mistake, shows you’re human, and besides – everyone knew what you meant, anyway!
Cheers!
Never an idiot, Wheatie.
I stand with Wheatietoo.
WWG1WGA.
I AM IDIOT. 🤪
Btw, I always thought GHWB was just signalling to cut the camera on him.
But he’s still evil!
Hi Curry!
—waves furiously—
It’s good to see you here!
And thanks for the solidarity. Haaaa.
Rightbackatcha!
DEPLORABLE HANDWAVE
We may see more (((Huma|Lindsey))) !!!
Yes, please! That video with Mattis and Kelly watching those two was great.
It would be a scandal of international proportions for a sitting president to be barred from the funeral of a former president, especially when the other former presidents will be welcome. I can’t imagine that happening. Everyone has to play the game, despite their feelings.
I’ve never seen Pres. Trump say anything disparaging about GHWB like he did about No-Name; and yet, I know Pres. Trump knows things, A former president is on a different tlevel than a senator.
President Trump DID frequently criticize the invasion of Iraq and the US interminable involvement and massive expense in Middle East conflicts.
This alone, besides belittling Jeb in the debates, makes PDJT an enemy in the Bush eyes.
Trump will take the high road and approve all honors for P41 – as he did for McCain – but the Bushes may act nasty as they did when Barbara Bush died. Melania attended Barbara Bush’s funeral alone though her husband was not welcome.
PS – many MSM news outlets cut Melania out of the photo above when they published their stories.
And that demonstrates their smallness. These quislings want to rule us – really?
Thank you very much for the photo.
Until now, I had no idea Melania was in it.
I remember that.
Between mass shootings and RINOs passing away, it seems like Old Glory is at half mast more often than not.
Do you think Melanie’s hand in the clinched position was on purpose. I do that when I’m around people I dislike.
Sitting presidents don’t usually attend funeral of former First Ladies….
That is why POTUS was not at Barbara Bush’s funeral.
The Current FLOTUS attends funeral of former First Ladies.
What will Michell do as it was her custom to fawn all over Poppy…
Thanks for the heads up.
“Everyone has to play the game, despite their feelings.”
Well, if they don’t think that PDJT is playing the BIG game with the goal of ending the game as we all believe, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he is “diss”invited
For clarity my post should of said….
Well, if they don’t think that PDJT is playing the BIG game , >BUTACTUAL< goal of ending the game as we all believe, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he is “diss”invited
The funeral would be a good place for U.S. Marshalls to round up and escort all the DS BHs off to jail. One stop shopping.
Oh, that would be wonderful to see that happen, wouldn’t it.
Heheh.
One can dream. It would be a very appropriate climax to this movie we are in.
Deplorables everywhere screaming “yes, yes, yes” and gloriously laughing through tears of joy .
Yes! 😀
imagining this situation right now… very interesting indeed.
We could even have fireworks going off for each click of the handcuffs.
We’d probably have to leave that part for the editors of the you tube clips. I’m even thinking 1812 Overture as background music. Or maybe Beethoven’s Fifth, both the opening of the first (for the marshals showing up and pulling out the cuffs–da-da-da-daaaah) and most of the fourth movement (for the mass perp walk).
No, no, not Beethoven’s fifth. The Hallelujah Chorus from Handel’s Messiah, and if you really want to troll them, the Illuminati theme song, aka the 4th movement of Beethoven 9, the “Ode to Joy.” The real words in German are not nearly so benign, brotherhood of man and daughter of Elyssium and all that. (Yes, I’ve sung it three times.)
Hmm…I’m envisioning it as a victory and the last movement of the 5th is a victory theme.
Maybe save Hallelujah for the drive to prison post-sentencing!
Good singing voice, eh? (Full disclosure, mine is atrocious.) There are parts of the words that are unobjectionable. I also keep in mind his context, the late enlightenment, not the Marxist era. “All men are brothers” could simply have been a riff off of “we are all equals,” a statement against hereditary nobility and its pretensions (which were the big problem in the early 1800s).
I agree that if written TODAY, it would be with noxious intent.
I have Queen of the Night notes. 🙂 4 octaves when I’m really on the top of my game.
Full disclosure, as a devout Catholic the Enlightenment as a philosophical movement based on man is an anathema, but it keeps popping up. Really, the Marxists just took it to the next level.
Whereas I believe the United States is a product of the Enlightenment…OK we must agree to disagree on that.
The Enlightenment is a curse, but it means less walking and more riding, so I’m good with it.
The USA IS a product of the Enlightenment. Yes. I do agree on that. It’s the stuff in the background where the differences are.
Perhaps we’re not that far off then; maybe I’m looking at the surface, the stuff that produced our country, and pronouncing it good.
Remember one thing about Republics: they are religion neutral. Venice was one of the longest running ones, and it survived because of not just ruthlessness, but the people following a code of living that was based in respect for others.
Religion neutral: Yes, precisely.
The odd thing is, if you go back to the ancient Roman and Greek, Res Publica and Democracy actually meant the same thing.
We’ve basically turned “Democracy” into unlimited, unfettered rule by vote of the people (two wolves and a sheep voting to decide what to have for dinner) and “Republic” into something run by the people, but with limitations built in, a prohibition on the wolves deciding the sheep is to be eaten.
…and I went and looked u p Queen of the Night, and noticed “Mozart” just in time to not be diverted by Whitney Houston.
Even someone as not-interested in opera as me recognized that one. If you can do that…impressive! (But I already knew that. 🙂 )
Actually, when it’s REALLY cold and all allergens are dead, I can get about three notes higher.
And, BTW, the Zingspiel (it’s technically more of a musical than an opera) from which the Queen of the Night hails is barely veiled commentary on the Lodge. i don’t remember all the symbolism now, but Mozart was pretty much an apostate.
I thought it was “Magic Flute” (Zauberfloete), but that too is listed as being a singspiel.
That F6 is a killer, apparently. I’m not sure if I ever wrung one out of the clarinet that wasn’t just a sonic weapon capable of killing rodents.
Yes, it is Die Zauberflute or The Magic Flute which is a Singspiel. The dialogue is spoken, thus making it more of a musical. 😉 My aria was actually Pamina’s, but I’ve outgrown the soubrettes.
Nah, F6 isn’t so bad. It’s B7 that is.
B7–Ouch!! I’m pretty sure I never tried that one on the clarinet. (And I have to correct for the transposition; if I blow a “C” it’s really a B-flat.)
Watch out for E#6.
(Yes, I know what it’s enharmonically equivalent to. 🙂 )
OMG – did not know that about Ode to Joy! Hilarious!
Somebody with a MAGA sense of humor needs to do a sly sophisticated cultural comedy about MAGA versus Illuminati in the art world. Complete with a wandering trio of Deplorable Stooges who throw pies every once in a while. 😉
I love it. I think our group should direct and choreograph the whole thing. Ah perfection!
Yes like “illegals in a Walmart parking lot”. Which I did witness on Thursday while two gorgeous ICE officers handcuffed a few. I wanted to stop and point out a van load two rows down but DH quickly hit the child locks on the truck door. His eagle eye informed me that ICE had them covered.
Wow! That had to be exciting.
It was considering the local sheriff made comments last year that Ice would need to check with him before any arrests were to be made. He also started that he saw no reason to harass or eject those who work hard helping farmers. He fails to mention he is a millionaire from farming.
And that’s the whole problem. Need vs. filling that need legally.
And at what will most likely be the National Cathedral, no less.
Someone will then need to do an exorcism on site after all the commies are rounded up.
Sigh. I’m sure you are right. I think I will unplug my TV until it is over or else, happy thought, watch all my old Clark Gable black and white movies. That would be a nice break! And some Cary Grant. Oooh, and Hitchcock thrillers.
I will stay here at TQT as it seems to be the best perch for one who endeavors to pray the news.
A very nice statement, which will be part of the historical record. No matter what Pres. Trump thinks or knows, he has to be appropriate and respectful and play whatever part is necessary.
Exactly.
Nice little video here, of the G20 meetings:
For those that are interested, Ristvan dropped in …..
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/11/30/the-empire-strikes-back/comment-page-1/#comment-12565
Yes! I love Riistvan. Thanks Jason.
Oh, I’m so glad! Thanks Jason.
Why is Q telling us that the wolf and the domestic dog are related? I don’t get it.
When I read that…I flashed back on that “Every dog has his day” that was said when McStain was about to kick the bucket.
I dunno.
Can’t say for sure why Q mentioned that wolf and domestic dog are related.
It’s common knowledge.
So why say it, right?
Must have had a ‘reason’ to say that, though.
Isn’t Comey’s dog Benji the link?
Timber Wolf, Dog, Benji died, Bush Snr (also Benj) died, linked to Comey’s tweet, asking Coincidence?
Oh! That makes sense. I like your reason a lot.
It bugged me because it was as random odd fact to throw in there for no apparent reason which means it likely is NOT random and there is a reason.
Wheatie, I posted part of a thread just now on The Crow’s Nest that might interest you because your name was mentioned. Or you may prefer to walk on by.
Thanks, I’ll go have a look.
If you want random odd facts thrown in for no apparent reason, I am here to serve.
Q doesn’t seem the type.
Q doesn’t seem the type…but then, nobody’s perfect.
Since it’s Q, I also wonder about the “deeper meaning.”
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 3e4749 No.4096718 📁
Dec 1 2018 00:31:55 (EST)
https://twitter.com/StormIsUponUs/status/1067076628050669568📁
Re: GHWB USSS code name re: Timber wolf
The grey wolf (Canis lupus; also known as timber wolf) shares a common ancestry with the domestic dog.
State funeral next week.
Coincidence?
Q
I thought this was about the tweet, and “Benji,” but then I saw a reference to this:
https://abc13.com/politics/inside-obamas-last-visit-with-former-pres-george-hw-bush/4776740/
Obama met with GHWB THREE DAYS before he died.
The “grey wolf” (Bush/CIA) shares a common ancestry with the “domestic dog” (Comey/FBI). Foreign intelligence/domestic intelligence.
Tin foil hat on here: did Obama call on Bush, a 94-year-old on the edge of the grave, to make one last sacrifice for the cause? To die to distract from the Comey hearing before Congress, which is inevitable? How afraid are these people of what Comey might say? Will the state funeral be on D5? Coincidence?
Sometimes I think I’m nuts, but the Swamp is dark, and full of terrors.
I know this much – every single thing Obama does is 10 times worse than it appears on the surface. So if it’s not that, it’s something equally bad.
I know this is a stretch… but I’m willing to make a guess. When I think about wolves, I think wild, untamed, fearless. When I think about about a grey wolf, I think wise, strong and again wild and untamed by man. But when I think domestic dog, I think: submissive, willing and wanting to please a master.
It’s just a guess, but it sounds like Bush 41 was both a leader (perhaps in his younger days) but also had handlers that told him what to do and when to do it. I don’t think he was told to die, per say, especially by Obama, but I do think he was trying to please a master. Who that master may be… is anyone’s guess. Just my two cents…
Poppy was Leader in Deep State…
No Name answered to him…
Poppy answered to Soros and
Soros answered to Rothschild (I believe?)
Yikes, this hierarchy is scary and h*ll.
“as” not and
In a few years, both will be true, when Soros pops his clogs…
“Poppy was Leader in Deep State…
No Name answered to him…”
I somehow didn’t see this post when I posted the same.
For the “WHO” was his “master” thing……. Research “Skull and Bones”
Very enlightening stuff.
Bushies go way back in S&B; Prescott Bush was also one of them – seems he had a hand in financing IG Farben (helping the Nazis). Lurch Kerry is a “Bonesman” too…
kerry as mentioned, also gwbush, and our current treasury secretary.
“The grey wolf (Canis lupus; also known as timber wolf) shares a common ancestry with the domestic dog.”
GHWB and Bammy are related thru the criminals interwoven associates. Bammy could certainly be the little domestic dog. Maybe old bush sr was directing the little bastard all these years and bammy just wanted to say good-bye.
Aubergine, you said what I was thinking when I said “pull the plug,” last night. I didn’t have the links you posted now, but timing is everything.
This song kept humming in my head.
Having a Space Force is the key to our survival.
.
Our VSG President knows this.
And I suspect he knows that the technology has already been invented that would enable us to go to orbit…and return…in the same vessel:
I believe this is also a leaf out of the JFK / Reagan playbook.
PDJT is squeezing the Chicoms on trade, he will squeeze them on military spending and he will SQUEEZE them on the Space Force spending. Space will suck up serious dollars, and the Chicoms will be unable to resist a space race
USA is now the leading energy producer, whereas the Chicoms are energy import dependant. Space is energy hungry AND tech innovation heavy. Chicoms are deficient in energy and innovation – they will lose.
This is a strategic play to show the world who is the leader and who is not. The loss of face will be ……. tough to swallow.
Part of KAG.
Yes…and there already *is* a space-race going on between the ChiComs and Russia — to get to the Moon.
Those space rocks & soil samples that we brought back from the Moon, showed a big concentration of Helium3…which turns out to be a source of clean energy.
We gave those samples out as ‘gifts’ to other countries.
A demonstration of friendship…and the fact that we had claimed the Moon “for mankind”, instead of just for ‘us’.
It will be interesting to see if China and Russia try to claim the Moon, or parts of it, for themselves…if they get there before we get back.
Oh, my goodness! I cannot stress enough how wonderful it is to be among such well-informed, educated and intelligent people! I learn something knew every single time!!! I did not know that, wheatie! Of course, I knew of the space race but not the helium3.
Helium-3 is (for the moment) still a potential source as we haven’t really licked fusion energy. We’ve been working on it for decades, and it seems that it’s always five decades away. People will point to ITER but it’s still doing research and is not expected to ever be an operational power plant.
Nevertheless I believe it will be an important source of energy…someday, and lunar surface rocks will be a big source of 3He. (They contain 3He because it’s been blasted into them by the solar wind acting over billions of years.)
A better source for it might be the atmospheres of the gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn. Picture robotic ships diving into the upper atmospheres and scooping up lots of gas, then separating out the 3He for shipment back to earth, then repeating.
“Nevertheless I believe it will be an important source of energy…someday”
Until the Moon Lives Matter folks screw it up 🙂
Since we apparently have space-faring technology how long before the Vulcans show up?
Single stage to orbit is one thing (and it would be HUGE, no more throwing away boosters after every use or having to undergo huge refurbishments)…going to the stars is quite another, it’s a thousand times harder, minimum on account of the distances involved (and unless there are secret breakthroughs in physics, to get around lightspeed limitations, AND energy generation, forget about doing it with people).
Methinks someone is engaging in hyperbole here, but given that SSTO would be profoundly big deal, as much of a change to our society as the automobile was, I can forgive it.
Losing bone mass in space, is another problem that we will have to tackle.
But I think we will figure it out.
There are new drugs being constantly developed to combat Osteoporosis that may be of use.
It has been thought that zero gravity was the cause of the bone loss…so a viable system of simulated gravity might be the solution.
Spinning hub creating centrifugal force does it ….
Yes, but we still don’t know if having artificial gravity will prevent the bone loss.
That’s the theory…but until it is tried, we won’t know.
I wasn’t even going to go into medical problems or shielding from radiation, because those come after the problem of simply getting a significant mass across a distance (especially an interstellar one) in the first place. But those are important too, and we haven’t solved them for interplanetary travel. Many of them equate to dealing with a long time exposed to the elements. If we could get to Mars in days instead of months, they wouldn’t be as much of an issue. But we can’t, and SSTO by itself won’t do it either.
Space is unimaginably vast, and each next step, from lunar to interplanetary to interstellar, is at least an order of magnitude harder than the one before it.
It may well be, thousands of years from now, that our descendants don’t even consider bopping about one’s home solar system to be “real” space travel any more, that it’s stuff even primitive people can handle.
https://twitter.com/Thinkersact/status/1068774079065350144
It was VP GHWB, who pressured Reagan to give amnesty to illegals. As President, Bush I and II were globalists, for imported cheap labor, exported manufacturing.
Don’t forget JFK, at the time Bush was CIA.
There are lots of rumors, some evidence too…..
groundwork laid for nine 11 also.
Long day and night ahead for our VSG President and lovely First Lady!
https://twitter.com/POTUS_Schedule/status/1068713417354153984
I am glad they are leaving tonight and getting out of there.
They can sleep on the plane and be back home in the wee hours tomorrow morning.
Makes sense.
And I’m sure that AF1 has some comfortable sleeping accommodations.
I read the President had the private quarters bed enlarged….with both of them being so tall, the original was probably uncomfortable on those long trips to Asia and Europe.
The president’s flop is in the nose of the aircraft.
Apparently on AF-1 the further forward you are, the more important you are. And (should you ever happen to ride on AF-1) the protocol is that you never go further forward than the section you’re seated in. If POTUS or any other high level people want to talk to you, they come to you.
Personally I’d like to see the Media relegated to seating on a banner being pulled by the aircraft…but that’s just me.
Sans oxygen mask, thank you very much! (and chutes)
The oxygen mask is there so that your brain will continue to function in low oxygen conditions.
Since the YSM’s brains don’t function even at sea level, the masks would be superfluous.
Just got my first real chuckle of the day! Thanks! 🙂
🤣😂😂
From that other place, this comment summed up my opinion precisely about Hannity’s Tick-Tock. So here it is:
////////////////////////
Once Upon a Dream says:
December 1, 2018 at 4:13 am
I wouldn’t. I’ve been once bitten twice shy with hope too many times now. Other than the tweet by Potus, it’s just sounds like more of the same by Sara, John, and Hannity. It’s the “I’m being told that something really big is coming very, very, very, very soon” teaser that they’re always positing… then nothing of substance happens. The only hope I dare to have is the hope that I’m wrong.
My theory: We have so many laws in this country that there is no person in government, with actual power, that has not run afoul with one of those laws. In essence, everyone with power is compromised, and could easily find themselves on the receiving end of an indictment if they don’t toe the line. It seems like the unwritten rule of those in power is that investigating each other is sometimes necessary, and the understanding is that the person being investigated will be cleared so long as they play ball. Cross the line, or run afoul and you’ll be Paul Manaforted or Michael Flynned. Thems the rules. Don’t like them rules, then get out da game. Hence, the insiders club carries on. Corruption is tolerated, and nothing ever changes as outsiders who would clean house are shunned or made examples of.
Again, I hope I’m wrong, but it feels like I’ve heard this tune before, and it’s stuck on repeat.
Eh…that reads like a ‘nothing-will-ever-change’ missive, designed to demoralize and sow despair.
Which is why I pointed pgroup to the Q drop earlier – did not seem to know.
Demoralization trolls! Take pictures of the wild Siberian Eeyore, but don’t bring them home! Leave them in their wild state in the Florida zoo! 😉
Seriously, SD has pointed out the Sean Hannity / Sara Carter laser-pointer dance many times. She’s actually reliably manipulated by deep state to keep our focus on certain things and not others. Every once in a while she gets very self-aware and starts pushing back on her sources, and the quality of her reporting goes up. But then she slips and gets back into a kind of “reverse Bluto” mode – “Deep State is through!” – Yeah, right – think I’ll wait for the next time. 😀
I’ll ignore the eeyore aspect of this (as should be done) to focus on one bit of it: That there are so many laws that everyone has broken some.
There’s a quite that leapt to mind from Atlas Shrugged. Whatever else you might think of her Ayn Rand was an escapee from early-days Soviet Russia so she definitely knows about this sort of thing:
I got this from a quote site that repeated the common misspelling of Rearden so it may not be a completely accurate quote.
Elsewhere the point has been made that PDJT has nothing to fear from these people because he’s managed not to commit any felonies. BINGO!
“Corruption is tolerated, and nothing ever changes as outsiders who would clean house are shunned or made examples of.”
Didn’t New Jersey voters just re-elect a pedophile senator? Why would they think otherwise?
I thought that Q posted about this already in post 2514. It looks like something really is coming down the pipes, but we won’t officially know until Monday. I know the tick tock thing is annoying and over-done, but something IS coming. A different whistle blower within the CF has stepped forward, so we’ll see what happens.
I am so bummed right now – I arranged to have Dec. 5 off work and now things may be hitting while I am at work on Monday! No smart-phone, no personal use of computer. Grrr…..told my sis to call me if anything breaks but she drives a school bus and has no TV so…….
https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/broward-south-florida-cop-wore-qanon-patch-with-mike-pence-10938571
Hey pgroup, not sure if you are aware of the massive Q drop today – check out the Tremors thread.
That pic of Pence also got a mention.
Interesting article from John Solomon:
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/419193-trump-russia-and-lessons-from-the-mob-did-godfathers-steer-collusion
‘Back in the mafia’s heyday, FBI and IRS agents had a set of surveillance rules.
‘If one mobster showed up in town, pay notice. If two arrived, be suspicious. If three or four were in the same vicinity, something was going down …
‘Early in my reporting that unraveled the origins of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, tying it to Hillary Clinton’s campaign and possible Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses, I started to see patterns just as in the old mob meetings: FBI or intelligence-connected figures kept showing up in Trump Town USA during the 2016 campaign with a common calling card.
‘The question now is, who sent them and why? …’
Our former host was unimpressed by Solomon’s article:
SD has a great point, but I think Solomon does, too. People are starting to ask who the frack was organizing these spies. You have to VIEW THE OLD STUFF differently, and these people are catching up with Sundance.
Just wait until normies start asking questions about who stuck Halper in all the other historical places he shows up, doing the SAME THING.
‘People are starting to ask who the frack was organizing these spies.’
Indeed!
I hope Hannity continues to cover this on his shows.
CTH might disparage him, but his shows (TV and radio) are the best broadcasts for normies.
I think part of the problem re: Sundance is that he is so far out ahead of what the average, normal, not-very-political American knows, he can’t see the importance of the baby steps. Most of us, (thanks to CTH for that) are that far ahead, too.
The Solomon article is a baby step. We will need an awful lot of those to explain what really happened. Get ready for a lot of bewildered looks. And for the cognitive dissonance that will surely come. It is not going to be easy for the “muh Russia” crowd to accept that they have been completed duped by their hero, Obama, and his media minions. Some of the will NEVER believe, no matter the evidence.
I agree with churchmouse’s comment. Sean Hannity, while annoying as hell to some of us, is a great vehicle for informing the “normies.”
Particularly within the evangelical and elderly communities.
Hmm!
Hmm indeed. Things finally seem to be stacking up – here’s hoping!!!
Excellent, excellent, excellent, excellent!
The usefulness of any House committee expires in 33 days (Jan 3, not that I’m counting, mind you), so if they’re going to do something, they’d better do it fast.
I know.
Talk about nail biting time. We’re soaking in it, as Madge on the Palmolive diswashing liquid advert used to say.
Q exchange on the Presidential thread Over There:
Joemama says:
December 1, 2018 at 3:22 am
If it turns out that Q actually is US military intelligence, will you admit that you were wrong in criticizing Q supporters?
I will admit that I am wrong, if Q turns out to be a “LARP”. I don’t think that I am wrong. I also think that Q supporters are not the enemy of conservatives. I wish that people would stop wasting energy attacking Q and their supporters. They are not the enemy.
elmo says:
December 1, 2018 at 3:26 am
We have been kindly informed by the host, Sundance, not to engage in Q-speak.
rumpole2 says:
December 1, 2018 at 4:20 am
LOL
Wise up!~!!!
The people who don’t read Q act like it makes them seem ‘smart’ and superior, to ridicule the people who do.
It’s become a sort of virtue-signaling.
Just like the Left does in bashing Pres Trump.
No doubt about that!
‘It’s become a sort of virtue-signaling.’
Great observation — so true.
Wheatie, this is one of those puzzling aspects of the whole situation. None of these critics seem to have actually tried to understand Q. Their harsh evaluations are categorical and mocking.
A thoughtful MAGA person, it seems, would at least find Q interesting if not convincing, especially because the Q message is 100% pro MAGA in a very uplifting way, a way which reflects what is actually on OUR minds in thinking about things.
Isn’t it also interesting that the people open to Q are the thoughtful people from CTH, not the complainers and Eeyores?
Yep, Tona…isn’t that the truth.
And yeah, it is interesting.
Spot on. It isn’t like these people have seriously looked into Q and rejected it, you can tell by the gross misconceptions and wildly off the mark interpretations.
They just made up their mind and now they are right and everyone else is wrong, and not just wrong but stupid and bad, to boot.
All one needs to do is look at all the new names…..really amazing to me how fast they have pretty much taken over.
I know. Fully half of them I don’t recognize. Maybe more.
I mentioned a number of times before I was banned that anyone criticizing Q followers needs to go read his 2,0000+ drops and THEN come back and criticize – if they still can. Because what they are criticizing, they know nothing about. But that also brought ridicule.
Oh, I know. There is just no reasoning with this remarkable unyielding blind spot. It is truly baffling.
Tonawanda, yes, absolutely! Q drops have given me so much hope! I can’t help but smile. When I read ‘over there’ (which is getting less and less) it astounds me how much negativity there is, it’s no wonder since no Q readers are really allowed to state their opinions (without getting ridiculed that is). I would rather try to understand Q and be excited about the future and if necessary ‘eat crow’ later, then be clueless and frustrated only because I think ‘I’m right.’
I really never followed Q (until now, although I knew of Q)— but did not trash Q or those who followed. My exposure was from those who would cite Q in their comments on here or other sites (really still is). Anyway, seems Q was/is always pro-Trump and MAGA— Amen!!!!
Hmmmm. Thoughtful MAGA person. That would not be Rumpie.
Well, he’s just compared himself to Marvin the Paranoid Android on the same thread, so maybe he thinks he has a “brain the size of a planet”…
Same egoic behaviour as when they were trashing JS, or trashing us for NOT trashing JS, or trashing us for disagreeing with SD …
As I said before, the expressed certainty and the name calling are hallmarks of egoic behaviour – and seems remarkably similar (as you noted above) to leftist behaviour.
Which is what you would expect from leftist trolls …
Great points, especially your last one. I’m going to need to cast a wolf eye on that one. Hmmmm. Tasty. 😎
You need me in that high branch, Wolf?
“If you see something, say something!”
I think that’s how they put it! I’ll do the rest! 😉
“We must always expect that the adversary has accomplished more than we realize.”
-Wolf Tzu
Elitist snobbery to deplorables all over again.
I’m sick of it.
“Elitist snobbery”
I’ve been making a point to include the prefix “self-” with words like this, to more accurately reflect the actual meaning … and to highlight the MASSIVE arrogance / vanity.
“SELF-elitist”
“SELF-superior” et al.
It’s FUN!
The perfect term for it, Wheatie, thank you.
Agreed!
Also, they are suck-ups. It makes them feel “included” and important, because they are loved by “Dear Leader.”
Some here have said CTH has become like a cult, and sadly, I agree. Strong, independent minds don’t like cults. And cult leaders kick them out when they dissent.
If I haven’t said so lately, thank you Wolfmoon for giving us a place to go!
Sorry, this was meant as a reply to Wheatie.
Second little paragraph completely nails it. Teacher’s pets. Ugh.
Somehow that reminds me of “Dear Reader no rike frame broired”… (from back in the the KJU days)…
Well I see that the trolls at TH have done there job dividing people into polarizing camps. I guess the sheep are still milling around listening to the trolls. hope the ones awake come here to find relief.
So do I, Sue.
Pena’s last day in office ends at G20 signing the USMCA:
Will the incoming Presidente try to undo the USMCA?
Hadn’t thought of that. Interesting, for sure.
It was also interesting how Obrador changed his tune so radically from ‘hate Trump’ to ‘will work with Trump’ right after his election. Did Trump or Pompeo have a nice talk with him?
Thank you. The same question crossed my mind.
Maybe someone here has an answer.
Pres Trump is holding all the best cards, with regard to Mexico.
If Obrador tries to undo the USMCA…it will only hurt Mexico.
We can live without that agreement.
We can live without NAFTA.
We would be free to slap tariffs on all their stuff that they depend on selling up here.
From what I read when deal was first announced, the negotiations and approval included both the outgoing & incoming Mexico administrations. Time will tell, but I think new President is on board regarding this deal.
I don’t think so. Our former host indicated that AMLO’s people were working closly with Pena Nieto’s people on the USMCA.
In case anyone is missing the Caturday mentions, here’s one someone posted Over There:
I hadn’t thought about this, but:
https://twitter.com/4WinnersUSA/status/1068732819772297216
Ya might call him the “God” father of the new world order….
Or, given the Benji thing, the doGfather.
Just one more noticeably odd thing that has happened recently.
Contrary to what our former host thinks, I do not find PDJT meeting with Australia’s new PM Scott Morrison ‘weird’ at all:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/30/g20-bilat-2-president-trump-and-australian-prime-minister-morrison/
‘U.S. President Donald Trump meets with the Prime Minister of a nation who used their intelligence network in an effort to defeat him in the 2016 campaign… Weird.’
Many of us are describing SD’s behaviour towards his (former) readers as decidedly weird.
So have I on previous threads. 🙂
The weirdness shows no signs of abating.
I know you have, I just couldn’t resist 🙂
Seems the weirdness could be catching …
I’m bewildered. New guy elected. PDJT wants to try to repair our relationship with Oz. Maybe slap him around a little and say I know you guys have been spying on me, knock it off if you want to stay allies. Or whatever. I would think that is standard behavior. But what do I know?
‘I’m bewildered.’ Me, too.
‘New guy elected. PDJT wants to try to repair our relationship with Oz.’ Exactly.
The President is well known for wanting to be friends with as many people as possible.
SD is way off on this one.
SD has been replaced by a bot. Or a pod person a la Invasion of the Body Snatchers. It’s the only answer.
I hope we eventually find out what’s going on Over There.
Has he stopped TRUSTING Trump? Big mistake.
Gotta have those Winnamin Q injections. 😉
I think he has. He’s jumped off the train.
He’s allowing comments that go directly to “Trump is a fool for not…” now.
A thought ive had, maybe SD reads Q and it just gets him mad thinking its just bunk or does he stay away from reading any Q drops in order to claim that Q is a conspiracy? I know leftists dont read or listen to anything that makes them look like the traitors they are so they can claim deniability. I thought SD was in search for the truth just as we are, all Q does is point us to the truth and to dig for the truth why in the world would SD be so staunchly opposed to that??
We all have our theories and I suspect in the fullness of time they will all be shown to be partially correct, and partially wrong.
I’m more with the school that says he was always this way, but Q made it apparent because half of his old audience follows (as in, makes sure to keep up-to-date on) Q to some extent or another.
That seemed inevitable and apparent many months ago.
Thinking posters (including Sundance) had not thought through the implication and direction of their highly repetitive comments, I would periodically point out that they were all headed in an anti-Trump direction.
I believed they would at least change their tone when they considered where they were all headed.
But now it seems they all know where they were going.
He had that swamp picture as the lead in a post the other day. The creature was holding someone. SD (or whoever did the picture) had an arrow pointing to the victim, labelled “Trump”…
Thanks for that.
Haven’t seen the winnamins baby in some time.
This is why a lot of us are very perplexed by what’s going on Over There.
I guess that by this criterion, he shouldn’t have met with Obola back during the transition, either.
Now THAT would actually make sense! 😉
Hey, without those meetings we wouldn’t have those memes of Tiny Obola and Huge Trump!
*screaming laughter*
Oh, but then he couldn’t have been told about what a HUGE problem North Korea was going to be for him! /sarc
It was a huge problem. Just like your dog leaves you a huge problem on the carpet. At least, if he’s a Great Dane or a St. Bernard, he does. And Obola left NK on the carpet similarly.
You just scoop it up and dispose of it.
“Keep your enemies closer.”
Seriously, it’s not that Trump is suddenly surrounded by enemies. It’s that the President of the United States is ALWAYS surrounded by enemies – half of which are conniving, back-stabbing “friends”.
Gotta deal with them. AUS is at a good point right now for Trump to straighten them out. Trump sees it. Good for him.
The problem is that chumps like Obama, stoked with Soviet globalist ego, think they actually have friends who put America’s interest before their own, or who even put some kind of “global” interest BEFORE their own.
SORRY, OBAMA – they don’t. And Trump called their BLUFF and showed that you were a CHUMP.
This x1000!
Someone Over There copied and pasted this article which warns about the USMCA (excerpted below):
https://www.thenewamerican.com/print-magazine/item/30541-what-s-wrong-with-the-usmca
‘Chapter 23 of the USMCA could also serve as a beachhead for a cross-border migration invasion similar to that experienced in the European Union. In language that is virtually identical to that found in the TPP, Article 17.5 of Chapter 17 of the USMCA states: “No party shall adopt or maintain … a measure that … imposes a limitation on … the total number of natural persons that may be employed in a particular financial service sector or that a financial institution or cross-border service supplier may employ … in the form of numerical quotas or the requirement of an economic needs test.” This opens the door for Mexico and its incoming radical socialist government or for a Mexican, a Canadian, or even a U.S.-based company to sue the U.S. government for restricting the number of employees that such a company would want to bring across the border into the United States. As well, provisions from USMCA’s Chapters 17 and 23 have the potential to undermine President Trump’s border security measures and further open our nation’s borders. Article 23.8 on “Migrant Workers” requires each country to “ensure that migrant workers are protected under its labor laws, whether they are nationals or non-nationals” of the country they are residing in. (Emphasis added.)
‘Such provisions could also further serve to help Democratic lawmakers retain President Obama’s unconstitutional executive action for Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, commonly known as DACA. In fact, any adjudication on this matter could very well fall under the judicial jurisdiction of a USMCA bi-national panel for dispute resolution, rather than under the legal control of the United States …’
There are other questionable things there, too, like the Free Trade Commission making their own decisions without involving Congress, provisions on sexual identity and more.
The article says the agreement sounds like a lot like TPP.
Just saying that there might be issues with this at some point down the pike.
Here is SD’s response to the comment:
sundance says:
November 30, 2018 at 4:34 pm
It’s a copy-paste job by a poster with an agenda. I’m leaving it so people can see the level of Wall Street funded disinformation and propaganda.
” “No party shall adopt or maintain … a measure that … imposes a limitation on … the total number of natural persons that may be employed in a particular financial service sector or that a financial institution or cross-border service supplier may employ … in the form of numerical quotas or the requirement of an economic needs test.””
I think it more likely that they are trying to avoid conflicts with discrimination laws in the respective countries. If a Canadian company wants a large number of their citizens employed in a facility located in the US or Mexico they do not want to be hit with frivolous discrimination law suits from job seekers from the host countries who get passed over in favor of Canadians.
A lot of contract language is designed to deal with potential anticipated problems between the parties in an efficient manner. I expect it is even more so in treaties among sovereign nations.
As long as a deal prevents an American company from being forced to load up with a bunch of ChiCom spies, I’m OK with it.
This is the sort of language that leads to problems down the road.
I live in the EU. We see things like this all the time with regard to human rights legislation.
This is not good. Wait and see.
Agree. Not good at all, ChurchMouse.
Thank you, Zoe.
When the word “classy” or similar adjective comes up in the the Soviet media extravaganza over the next five days, keep in mind the condescending, ungrateful, petty and classless disparagement toward Ronald Reagan by Benji the Insect.
Including the assassination attempt.
I did not know until a few years ago that the Bushes and the Hinckleys were long-time family friends. Lots more here:
http://www.kmf.org/williams/bushbook/bush17.html
A couple of strange comments on SD’s GHWB thread (one like to the first, none for the second, as I type):
Trumpeter says:
December 1, 2018 at 1:52 am
I knew globalist once, and he was a good globalist. But now he is dead.
Joshua says:
December 1, 2018 at 1:55 am
Godspeed to the heavens.
Thank you and your family for your service
Even though I ultimately regarded Bushism as a deal with the Alinsky Devil, filled with lies, false events, manipulation, Illuminati voodoo, war for cash, and retreated Ivy League elitism with a Texas disguise, I was still willing to make some peace with GHWB at the end. We can all be wrong.
Bush was wrong, Reagan was righter, and McCarthy was rightest of all.
Next time, DON’T TRUST and MAYBE VERIFY. Only THAT gets past skillful disinformation.
Yes, ‘trust but verify’ is supposedly the original Russian adage.
I prefer ‘accept but verify’. If I ask the time when I haven’t got a watch on and I’m running late (a real hypothetical) and someone tells me it’s 9:00 when it’s 9:05, I’ll accept what they say, then get a second opinion or go where I know there’s a clock — and run like the dickens.
It’s simple diplomacy to accept what someone says then verify it. Why accuse someone of lying if they could be relaying information in good faith?
I, too, liked Bush I (a LOT, actually) until 2016, when he and the family (probably because of Jeb!’s failed candidacy) turned into rabid never-Trumpers. Since then, I’ve done more research into his and his family’s history.
I now (some hours later) think that the CTH commenters were speaking from a perspective of ignorance. Fair enough. Some conservatives do (not those here present, though).
Okay, okay, I know it’s too soon to ask, but…..
considering the death of GHW Bush, can PDJT finally release the other 25 pages of the Kennedy file report?
Remember? Yeah, that one.
That was the first thing I thought of when I read the news.
Me, too! First words out of my mouth!
Delighted to see that a few of us are on the same page!
Me too.
More of us thinking along the same lines.
Great!
You know…it’s just barely possible that THAT is what he’ll declass now, and he’s expecting it to sink the Bush family.
Rudolph the Red-nosed Reindeer is in the Left’s crosshairs. What sick people.
As Western Journal explains, the story has a great moral lesson in that Rudolph comes up trumps (no pun intended, my words not theirs). They quote from the HuffPo video:
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/finally-happened-liberals-wage-war-christmas-classic-rudolph-red-nosed-reindeer/
‘“Former fans are pointing out Rudolph’s father verbally abuses him,” the video says.
‘It’s apparently also “problematic” that Rudolph’s classmates bully him.
‘“From now on, gang, we won’t let Rudolph join in any reindeer games, right?” Rudolph’s coach said in the classic special.
‘Rudolph wasn’t accepted at the start of the film because it’s a story about learning tolerance and acceptance. It wouldn’t be an interesting story if there wasn’t a conflict.
‘Plus, the whole “reindeer games” part is straight from the original “Rudolph” song.’
David Knight of InfoWars discusses this leftard phenomenon in two videos in the link below, ‘Rudolph: Not A War On Christmas, An Attempt To Deconstruct Reality’:
https://www.newswars.com/leftists-call-rudolph-the-red-nosed-reindeer-racist/
One of my last comments at CTH, which someone liked within the past 24 hours. The ‘like’, unlike the previous one a week ago, did not unban me, even temporarily.
(I am aware that PDJT is happy that Ronna will be the GOP chairwoman.)
churchmouse says:
November 18, 2018 at 6:11 pm
‘if Ronna would step aside for the sake of party’ … She should be pushed aside, regardless of her uncle, Senator Romney.
Who cares? She does not represent today’s Republican voters, nor Trump supporters (be they GOP, Democrat or Independent).
Maybe PDJT’s endorsement of Ronna is part of a “detente” with the Romney clan…..
I think so, too.
Or perhaps, in that job she’s actually doing what he wants. In some other job she’d be a catastrophe. This is how you effectively use people who you partially agree with.
Good comments on American food:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/30/g20-bilat-president-trump-and-prime-minister-shinzo-abe/#comment-6396246
calamitymay says:
November 30, 2018 at 7:21 pm
I think if use weaned animals off of GMO feeds, antibiotics, growth hormones, and Contained Animal Feeing Operations (CAFO) systems, we’d sell more meat globally. Our majority of meat production and its compromised quality is unattractive to many countries.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/30/g20-bilat-president-trump-and-prime-minister-shinzo-abe/#comment-6396669
littleflower481 says:
November 30, 2018 at 9:09 pm
You are right. I had a cab driver from Iran recently and the first thing he started talking about was our food. He really thought our chicken was very bad. In Iran, and in many other countries, they do not give their animals hormones and antibiotics; actually their food is close to organic…and that is all of their food so it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg to eat healthy.
I told him where to look for good quality food and he did comment on how expensive it was. He also commented on how fat Americans are. I told him that was because of fast food and high fructose corn syrup and he said they didn’t have fast food like that in Iran.
When I was in Slovenia a few years ago, I noted the same thing. Their vegetables were organic and their meat was raised the old fashioned way…of course it is a very small country.
He was right about our chicken.
I would love to have chicken which tastes like chicken, again.
We’re going to enjoy roast free range British chicken tomorrow. I can hardly wait to put it in the oven.
The one thing we in the UK fear about a trade agreement with the US is getting American ammoniated chicken over here, something Ambassador Woody Johnson would like to see. The British people will not stand for it.
I buy eggs and whole chickens from the Amish now. So tasty and nothing like the supermarket chickens.
I live in town, but we are allowed to have some backyard chickens, so I have my own for eggs, and the occasional roasting. So healthy and delicious!
There’s a couple local operations that sell free range and organic eggs. It’s twice the price of the white, mass produced ones, but worth it.
I always tell people it tastes like Tyrannosaur, given that birds descended from ol’ Rex’s near relatives.
Actually, I’ve had duck that was close.
That explains Melania. And here I thought, all along, that it must be something in the water…
Even the Commies got something right.
The irony on chicken, according to a source high up in the poultry business, American chicken in general is not infested with antibiotics and hormones. Since from hatch to scratch, a chicken lives 42 days, it is not cost effective. My guess would be that the combination of breeding programs to produce more breast meat and not being free range is the difference, at least in the commercial varieties.
The saying, “you are what you eat” applies. Pastured chickens on grass will have a completely different fat and protein profile than one on grain feed.
Two questions:
1/ Why ammonia, then?
2/ Can they walk? Mass-produced chickens generally cannot.
We have had documentaries in the UK about mass-produced chickens. A lot cannot walk and they peck each other raw because they do not have enough space (think of Psych 101 books detailing experiments on hundreds of rats living in a confined space). The UK is gradually moving away from mass-produced chickens to a semi-free range farming format. We also have free-range and organic chickens, which cost a bit more. No ammonia added.
That’s interesting. I cannot say. I’ll have to ask my source the next time we are together. The individual has worked in every aspect of American poultry over the course of 30 years.
Funny, In the USA domesticated turkeys are one step above root in the brains department. Wild turkeys are a different lot, but the ones on the farm, I hear tell, were downright dumb. And it wasn’t my poultry source who said that, but someone closer.
‘That’s interesting. I cannot say. I’ll have to ask my source the next time we are together.’
Thanks. I’d be most interested to read what he has to say.
I haven’t had a decent chicken in the US since the mid-1960s. It was a meat I loved and grew to loathe within a year during that time.
I only rediscovered my enjoyment of chicken when I lived in France a decade later, then moved to the UK some time after that.
That said, living in the US in between those years, I bought and ate very little chicken. Once bitten, twice shy.
Connection? I think so.
No coincidences, especially where food is concerned.
ChurchMouse, you triggered so many memories and I agree about the change in chicken in the U.S. I remember when I was a young girl and my grandma cooked chicken almost every Sunday morning after church in her cast-iron skillet, then made homemade gravy and mashed potatoes, and it had such wonderful flavour. Now and for as long as you mention it is impossible to get decent chicken unless you know a very ca careful farmer or have a good local source. How people eat that tasteless unappetizing chicken day after day is beyond my comprehension, except they have never had the real thing. I remember wonderful chicken when I was in France briefly and in Britain, too. It’s sad. I’m a beef eater, and don’t get me started on what they’ve done to that.
You’re a woman after my own heart (i.e. we appreciate the same things).
Thank you VERY much for your comment.
Yes, my grandmother also prepared fantastic chicken every week, the same way yours did. We were blessed, weren’t we?
Oh, yes, good local sources for chicken in the US are very difficult to find nowadays. I wholeheartedly agree with you: how can people eat that rubbish? It’s AWFUL. I never order chicken when I visit the US, by the way. Even looking at it in the supermarket there (my better half and I make regular visits just to browse) makes me gag.
Strange thing that my better half (English) and I have noted: you can’t seem to buy a whole chicken in the US anymore.
I am delighted to read that you enjoyed French and British chicken. Yessss. Taste the difference. I hope it was similar to your grandmother’s in taste and texture. Ours is. I feel as if I am going back in time every time I roast one.
I do now and then enjoy a decent prime rib and baked potato dinner in the US. However, I mostly eat fish when I’m there.
Speaking of beef, normally EU beef is aged for up to 28 days. If the beef is shrink-wrapped, it ages day by day in the refrigerator until eaten.
Those who have a good relationship with their butcher here in the UK can get their beef aged much longer. We ask for ours to go for nine to ten weeks before it is cut up into roasting joints. You can use a butter knife to cut it and will definitely transport you back five or six decades.
Pork is a bit of an issue. We have to ask our butcher for pork with a huge rim of fat on it, as the UK (probably other Europeans, too) are freaking out over fat.
Veal is one thing I have not seen in a US supermarket since the late 1980s. Do you have it where you live? I remember having roast veal regularly as a youngster. We have to order it from our butcher, but he gets superb joints for us.
If people don’t eat veal, those male calves just die, dead and buried. The meat is wasted.
Same with little billy goats, which are great, too, provided they are young enough to be tender.
End of food sermon. If you read this far, many thanks. 🙂
Thank you very much.
And may God bless you, too, Zoe.
I really enjoyed our exchange about meat.
Glad you have been able to buy whole chickens. Fat (from the skin) adds flavour to the final product.
We have British leg of lamb at Easter (my childhood family tradition) and sometimes during the summer.
All being well, we can have another food discussion here, wolfmoon permitting. 🙂
Cannot walk – according to another source, now that I think about it, there is a hybrid breed of chicken that is breast heavy. I’ll have to find out if this sort of chicken can walk. The breast meat has to be treated like pork ribs and cooked low and slow, not that it really matters as the meat comes out stringy.
‘… there is a hybrid breed of chicken that is breast heavy.’ I’ve not heard of any such breed to the extent they cannot walk.
Why would the Creator have given such a miserable life to a bird? He would not have done so.
If breast-heavy meat comes out stringy no matter how it’s cooked, I’d say the breeders/Big Agra are selling Americans a load of Bravo Sierra.
Churchmouse, agree with you, our Creator would not have done that.
It was bred that way via selective breeding by people.
Exactly.
It’s also worth pointing out that a free range or organic broiler will usually be slaughtered at about 14 weeks of age.
I’ve been a vegetarian (no fish, no fowl, no animal of other kinds) for 47 years! Grew up on southern cooking. Made the change back in my hippie days on west coast—my parents thought I was going off the deep end!!! They came to respect my decision. However, I do not push this lifestyle on my wife or daughter—the Scriptures tell me to be humble and quiet in my choice!
Have a look at what Paul says in I Timothy 4…
Interesting.
What does the New Testament say?
1/ https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2010/08/07/forbidden-bible-verses-mark-7-selected-verses/
18 “… Do you not see that whatever goes into a person from outside cannot defile him, 19 since it enters not his heart but his stomach, and is expelled?” (Thus he declared all foods clean.) 20 And he said, ”What comes out of a person is what defiles him.” (Mark 7:18-20)
2/ https://churchmousec.wordpress.com/2017/09/02/forbidden-bible-verses-acts-109-16/
12 In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. 13 And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.” 15 And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.” (Acts 10:12-15)
ALL food is good to eat. The Lord gave it to us for that purpose, to nourish ourselves.
Has my point been misinterpreted? I am a vegetarian and do not press my lifestyle on others.
Paul writes– “Now accept the one who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of passing judgment on his opinions. One man has faith that he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats vegetables only. Let not him who eats regard with contempt him who does not eat, and let him who does not eat judge him who eats, for God has accepted him. …He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who eats not, for the Lord he does not eat, and gives thanks to God.” (Romans 14:1-3, 6)
“It is good not to eat meat or to drink wine, or to do anything by which your brother stumbles.” (Rom. 14:21). “Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again, that I might not cause my brother to stumble.” (1Cor. 8:13)
In order to properly understand all that Paul is saying, it is critical to interpret these verses within their context, not only within their literal context, but also in their historical context. Paul was dealing with Gentiles coming from out of the world of heathenism where meat was sacrificed to idols before eating. The new Gentile believer was having questions as to what was proper in the eyes of the Lord in regards to this meat sacrificed to idols.
Peter. on the other hand in Acts 10 and his vision at Joppa, being a Jew, was being taught another lesson (or truth) by the Lord (vv. 10-16). Peter was being prepared to accept the first Gentile in the Church (the unholy and unclean of mankind), Cornelius, to come to Jesus Christ, to be included into the fold of the Jewish believers in Christ. We read– “And when it came about that Peter entered, Cornelius (the Gentile) met him, and fell at his feet and worshiped him. But Peter raised him up, saying, ‘Stand up; I too am just a man.'” (Acts 10:25-26). Peter said, “I most certainly understand now that God is not one to show partiality, but in every nation the man who fears Him and does what is right, is welcome to Him.” (Acts 10:34-35). So the lesson being taught to Peter in the vision at Joppa through the context of eating was actually dealing with accepting the unholy and unclean (the Gentiles) into the body of Christ– “What God has cleansed, no longer consider unholy (profane).” (Acts 10:15).
As such, I do not project my “weak” vegetarian lifestyle on anyone– it is where the Lord directed me to reside!!!
I haven’t misinterpreted it, and I congratulate you for not imposing vegetarianism on others, particularly family.
I know that Peter was being prepared for the Gentiles with the vision of the sheet of animals. That does not mean the vision was for him alone.
The citation from Paul, as you say, has to do with meat sacrificed to idols.
‘ … it is where the Lord directed me to reside!!!’ Interesting, considering the quote from Matthew 15.
I’ve nothing further to say on the subject.
Thanks for the exchange.
Thank you for NOT being one of those insufferable twits who is a vegetarian, lets everyone know it within five seconds of meeting them, and actively changes the subject to vegetarianism at every opportunity.
Some people can do vegetarian. The rest of us can’t. 😉
This is for Flep:
Thanks for always being positive!
Kris is quite an influence, truly.
These are probably just Q-incidences
:
1. The 17th Q post last night was about SSGHWB code name Timber wolf
2. GHWB gave us NAFTA and died on the day President Trump killed NAFTA and gave us USMCA
3. Every time I see that name USMCA, I think of US MARINE CORPS AIRFORCE
The United States Oldest Active Military Air Squadrons
1st Reconnaissance Squadron – The Air Force’s Oldest Squadron is also the United States military’s oldest flying unit, was established in March of 1913 to support American military action on the border of the United States and Mexico. The 1st Reconnaissance Squadron, also known as 1 RS, is based at Beale Air Force Base in California.
https://duotechservices.com/the-united-states-oldest-active-military-air-squadrons
4. In 1986 under Reagan, GHWB, John McCain, John Kerry brought the USA the Iran Contra Cocaine epidemic along with the Clinton’s. Under Gov. Clinton, drugs being run into Mena Arkansas to fund weapons for Iran. They used some of the profits to set up Walmart, Tyson, JH Rhodes Trucking and several other big companies. Hillary was on the BOD of each.
5. When President Trump was running for President, he said, “a thousand points of light, what the hell does that even mean? Does anybody know?” and then used it in his “Statement on the Passing” of GHWB.
6. GHWB announced a NEW WORLD ORDER exactly 10 years to the day before 911.
7. GHWB brought us the 1991 War in IRAQ called Desert Storm.
To the best of my recollection, these are just some thoughts in passing about the impact that GHWB has had on the world as we know it.
“A thousand points of Illuminati.” 😉
Thanks for that. Good to remember mistakes. Keeps us from making them again.
Wolfmoon,
It seems that even the brightest stars of the Illuminati get their lights put out and join the waiting skull and bones members in their “forever darkness” home.
I think that is why wolves howl at the moon. They are giving a last sad appeal to them that worship the darkness to change their minds today before they won’t even have the moon to light the total darkness that will come for them. The wolf’s howl is such a sad, forlorn and piteous plea for the souls of the lost.
Genesis 1:16 16God made two great lights-the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.
Hebrews 3:13-16 (KJV)
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
14 For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
15 While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
16 For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
1 Thessalonians 5:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
Lionel has some thoughts.
https://twitter.com/LionelMedia/status/1068896201481863168
An observation: I think a B/B link got me to CTH back when (Trayvon?). Been there almost daily since.
Yes, disturbed by some recent opinion, but more disturbed by many (past & present) comments.
Hard to believe that a site which allows all the opportunity to recite the Lords Prayer every day to be evil.
There has been way more positive from CTH toward this movement than negative. Way more!
Misplaced focus. You’ve been banned. Get over it. Try some of that patience spoken here.
Thank you so much for dropping by to trash people you don’t even know.
We were kind of missing that part of commenting at CTH.
I am certain your heartfelt concern is appreciated by SD as it is by us.
We will wait “patiently” for your return.
Please feel free to drop by and correct us whenever the mood strikes you.
Whenever tom posted, Ii always saw him as trying to help one side see the other side more clearly.
Perhaps you’ve mistaken his intention, as his motive may have been to build community, however poor his methods.:)
thinkthinkthink,
I do not know tomf at all. Obviously you do and have an affection for him. I have looked at his comment all day hoping someone else would defend the kind people here who have been hurt by his comment. I really find your comments welcome, but I felt tomf was being very unkind to people here who were injured. Sort of like kicking someone when they are down in a blame the victim sort of way.
To the best of my knowledge, I have not been banned at CTH and was not personally hurt by what tomf said but I found his remarks very inconsiderate of the feelings of people that I have long respected at TCH and was very glad to see them here. This has been a safe place and I do not feel that tomf showed respect for our environment. We are all used to being trashed, but we do not come here expecting that.
I meant no disrespect for tomf. I do not remember him from TCH at all. I am so grateful that so many of the people that I really respected at TCH are here and that includes you.
I decided that no one here was willing to deal with someone coming over from TCH to trash us, but I am willing to be convinced that he meant no harm and was wishing we would all come back to TCH and we could all just get along. Of course, I don’t know if he can speak for SD or their moderators..
However, tomf is always welcome here to comment on issues unless Wolfmoon says differently but I personally would consider it a blessing if he did not disrespect the people here that I respect so much.
Understood. Lots of wounds still healing. His comment was harsh. I wasn’t trying to justify his unkind words. Just pointing out that under that rough exterior he might actually have the heart of a peace maker. Maybe. Time will tell.
Wanting to keep our wonderful TQT positive, affirming, thoughtful, respectful is the best of motives. Just not sure of the best way to deal with a character like this. I guess everyone else just scrolled by.
Thank you for responding to tomf.
I considered it, but realized I was too emotional to do so respectfully.
I was always VERY cautious in my responses at CTH, from the very first time I read there. I somehow just knew that there was a risk of being, at minimum, called out by SD, a mod, or another commenter. For whatever reason (probably Wolfmoon’s attitude, honestly) I feel safe to comment freely here. I want everybody else to, as well.
So, that said, maybe tomf was trying to be a peacemaker. Who knows? But I hope he will moderate his tone a bit over here if he posts again.
I think you understand the situation here very well, Aubergine.
Tom and I go way back, and we’ve been in some very nasty battles together. I guess it shows. Maybe a bit different with me. I do get testy sometimes. But this is not a game. Q is not kidding. NOT kidding. If you play at that level – organizing – they take down your name, find out who you are in real life, and start going after you – both online AND in real life. It’s THAT SIMPLE. If you don’t fight back HARD, they keep coming. Actually they keep coming anyway, but it’s less. Just sneakier.
Since I’m defending free speech – for personal reasons – I am quite loath to restrict people’s speech here. Sometimes I even post a bit of veiled vulgarity just to make that point clearly. And I do argue back. But what’s the point of banning? No – only people who risk the site by threatening violence or intimidation. – doxxing, threats – that sort of thing. I may have to add site disruptors and professional site take-down artists, but that will come suddenly if and when it happens.
If we had a mute capability, I would allow a lot more, but we don’t, so I can’t allow trolling, leftists, really uncivil and crude sexual stuff, REAL antisemitism, REAL racial slurs, etc., but if we had a mute function, I would allow it, and the few who wanted to talk that way could, and people would just turn them off.
Anyway, no eggshells ever, but I apologize in advance if I ever get testy with people, and sound like Sundance, because every day I am learning what it’s like to do his job, and believe me, it makes me literally sound more like him every day, and there is nothing I can do about it. Walk in another man’s shoes, and his world will TEACH you to be like him. I am really seeing it now!
And I think that gets to Tom’s post, too. I know banning stings, but heck – let’s make the most of it! 😉
Cheers! W
Maybe so, ttt.
And yet, maybe not.
It’s always a red-flag, to my mind, when I read or hear someone issue imperatives to others, as is the case with the last two sentences of the post.
Yes. “You’ve been banned. Get over it.” That just doesn’t sound like a peace maker to me. And why did he find it necessary to come over here at all? What is it to him what we say on this board? I found his comment rude and obnoxious.
I agree.
Jury still out…
The President will designate Wednesday, December 5th as a National Day Of Mourning.
From: Andrew Restuccia
Date: December 1, 2018 at 10:53:57 AM GMT-3
Subject: Pool report #1 — Sanders Bush statement
https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject-pool-report-1-1830792668
Seriously!? WTF?
That’s Wednesday…
means funeral will have to be Wednesday.
Now who is driving the narrative?
Meanwhile, 12/3 happenings will still be happenings…
No one is even talking about Poppy on twitter… Americans care nothing about dead ex-presidents…
It is on Wed. and the President is attending.
Jeez.
Of course he will.
SHEESH.
Moves and countermoves. All this is doing is delaying the inevitable. Sooner or later all the manifestly guilty are going to be gone, and it will be time to tell the truth.
Will Huber’s testimony be delayed now? How can they not? SMH
I guess that means that he will have to DECLAS 12/3 instead.
“National Day of Mourning”
Actually, that sounds very promising to me if you think of double meanings.
I hope D5 is a national day of mourning for all the right mourners.
I think you’ve got the right idea, Tona!
POACH the day, for our team. Seemingly, for theirs – to defuse the distraction, by climbing on board!
Nothing will stop the avalanche. Nothing!
Hehehe …
More tinfoil hat here from me.
There is quite a bit of ‘Q’ stuff still being posted over on the CTH. Even actual Q posts are copied into comments. Weirdly, there is some negative commentary about it, “SD said no,” blah, blah, but not even very much of that.
Were we all banned for some other reason, not only Q?
I was temporarily banned a few months ago. Didn’t even know it at the time, I thought it was a WordPress problem. Now I think it was because I was a Sessions supporter.
Someone here (I’m sorry, I can’t remember who) mentioned the possibility that Q actually brought us here somehow. Wouldn’t THAT be something!
I don’t know what’s up, I just know the little bell on my hat jingled.
If you go back to some of wolfie’s very early posts, you will see that was discussed pretty extensively. Sorry, I don’t have a quick link for you but you are quite right – it well may have been intentional. BTW, glad to see you here.. Saw you “over there” and wished I could invite you.
Thanks for the heads up, I will go looking.
So glad to be here, and I have always enjoyed your POV. I was a LOT quieter “over there.”
I have continually evolving theories in this regard.
There are both good and bad reasons to bring us here, including bad reasons hidden behind good reasons, and good reasons hidden behind bad reasons. BUT if we learned properly from TRUMP, then no matter what, it always becomes lemonade, never lemons. 😉
So yeah – there is some possibility there.
Lemonade all the way, OK? 🙂
I’ve suggested before that this is a lemon tree. Sometimes I can even see yellow round things hanging from the branches.
Look at how big this kid is! Wow!
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1068899311189196802/photo/1
That kid is growing like a weed.
I love that, according to Melania at Liberty University this past week, the young pup is all into sports and has no interest in social media. Good for him!
and so it begins….the terraforming of the GHW legacy and his Ascension to presidential deity status
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/george-hw-bush-great-american-class-act-and-underrated-president/ar-BBQkGkQ?ocid=spartanntp
Without reading, it is from msn, and he was the patriarch of globalism(at the minimum). Of course. Plus its gotta be a slight against POTUS, as in “this was a real statesman” blah blah blah….
https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/1068919814628855808
Hello Wolfmoon,
I know this is kind of late, and probably a little off topic… even though, hey! It’s the open thread, right?! Ok, well, I just wanted to thank you for creating a thread about how beautiful our FLOTUS is and that even though you (and I) may not have agreed with Mrs.O, she did have her own unique sense of style. I thought (and still think) she is beautiful. Laura Bush, although not stunning (like Melania) was also in her own way a beautiful lady as well. I love the way our FLOTUS’ carrying themselves and the way they have to be strong inside, when they may be as insecure as the rest of us.
Anyway, thank you again. It was inspiring to me. I hope you have a wonderful Saturday!
(Sorry for all the parenthesis – yikes!)
I like parenthesis…..gives things clarity
Parentheses are sort of like text hugs. 😉
You are most welcome, and I really appreciate your thanks! Have a great rest of the weekend! 😀
Poppy is not even at top of zeroHedge page… midway down…
And I’ve gone through many comments and have yet to find one that doesn’t express disgust
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-01/trump-declares-wednesday-national-day-mourning-president-bush-stock-market-close
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1068905681091289094
I’m sorry but no – tired of anything talking about “alleged.” No, it either IS or it ISN’T. SMH
https://gab.com/RussVet/posts/42472819
haven’t figured out how to post GAB
It’s probably a WP thing. It knows how to “render” Twit’s feed but not Gab’s feed?
makes sense!
THREAD
Good discussion of Newt’s role in all of this.
GG has a THREAD
Good move by the Freedom Caucus.
May the Lord bless, protect and grant massive favor to Rep. Jordan.
https://twitter.com/WeAreOne_Q/status/1068653433694142469
We’ve heard so much about this. How refreshing and more telling to see the actual evidence jacket.
Yikles! That’s one of those things you don’t know if its good to upvote… Good catch!
Horse Trading, a different Delta:
In an earlier post, Phenoix pointed out the delta between Q’s post on “watch the news” and GHWB’s time of death being exactly 17 minutes.
Picking that up here.
So that would mean he knew before hand that GHWB was going to die and chose to say ‘watch the news’ at the 17 minute mark before death. Or did I miss something?
Here’s someone else I think that may of known before hand. Purely speculation but give it a look.
Bongino on his Friday’s podcast: https://bongino.com/ep-862-is-the-raid-on-the-clinton-foundation-whistleblower-a-headfake/ Start at the 7:50 mark and he’s speaking about ‘Horse Trading’.
Basically he’s talking about people with a vested interest in maintaining public institutions like the CIA, FBI, DOJ etc.. who are involved in Horse Trading. The Anti Swamp Effort vs. the Swamp Protection Team. They give you one of theirs, we give you one ours, all in order to not provoke a civil war caused by perp walking 6 and more a day, in handcuffs, out the door (which filling the place holders could easily do).
Step in Obama’s visit to GHWB three days before his death and now Bongino’s last two podcasts make sense.
My speculation follows:
Obama tells GHWB he’s got to take one for the team to prevent the country from coming apart at the seams, (what he really wants is no declass and the Horse Trade scheme would facilitate that) ‘here’s your meds’. He leaves, GHWB still with a Secret Service Team has been given a large last task, (taking his own life, thinking that can stall FISA release) and naturally he’s going to want to talk about it and who’s there to confide in but his trusted SS team. Bongino being ex secret service picks up on it (***or its fed to him***) and we get this ‘Horse Trading’ talk prior to GHWB’s death.
Personally, I’m not in favor of this ‘Horse Trading’ scheme for a number of reasons.
1. It’s much more advantageous to the swamp.
2. You would never get enough trades to get to Hillary or Obama or even Soros.
3. Only certain players in the swamp are horse trading while the others continue their relentless attacks.
4. The infected institutions never really get cleaned up.
5. Justice is delayed and in all likely hood never delivered where it needs to be delivered.
6. The president’s base will in all likely hood see it as pure politics and will become disenchanted.
7. The “civil war” that is feared in certain quarters is in fact only going to have the largest effect in where the swamp reigns and even that is not really measurable and will likely be to some extent controllable if it happens at all.
8. More I’m sure… Like why would we even have to trade!
So anyway. Now we have ‘Leverage’ and ‘Horse Trading’ ( One for political future gain, the other to preserve institutions.) vs out and out Declas to preserve the obvious, like american upholding justice, truth, etc… and the American way.
Quick note. Bongino is not supporting ‘Horse Trading’ he is reporting on what he’s seeing and what’s being reported to him while appearing to be IMO agnostic about it.
Para, so agree with your thoughts on horse-trading speculation.
Hrmmm. If I have this right you can’t give likes. So it stands to reason you might not be able to see likes either. So just in case, Hey! Ty Zoe.
Thank you, Para, very kind and thoughtful, and you are right, I cannot see them here. Think I used to see them on the other place which shall not be named, just joking. I remember once I enjoyed getting 10 likes, but cannot recall for what. Lol.
Sorry, just out of work. Keeps all that in mind going forward Zoe. Actually though I read your comment and hit like and then was about to move on when I thought, ‘Wait! what did I just learn. Ackk!
Anyway ty’.
Have a great day, Para.
Since this is the open thread, and one of the issues that VSGPDJT and Q are passionate about fighting, I ask for your prayers for the repose of the souls of the people lost in the drug war. While I was at rehearsal for Christmas Eve at a parish where I am helping out, word came from the pastor that a daughter of the parish was found dead today. Everyone has been touched by this. The dope, where ever it’s coming from, is doing the job. Just say no as a campaign is nowhere near enough.
Coming for the most part over the border (Build That Wall) and almost all of the deadly fentanyl is coming from China. That which comes over the border is criminal activity. China’s involvement is an official state action. Some might call it an act of war.
And I meant to say, and should have said first, I’m really sorry this has reached out and touched people in your circle. It is a horrible, horrible thing.
I didn’t actually know this girl, but now hundreds of people are going to take time out this week to mourn her.
This isn’t the first time people I know have lost loved ones. A cousin lost a fiance. A woman I used to sing with lost a son. For some reason, though, this one made me mad. Maybe it was knowing everything Q has been telling us. I don’t know. What is being done to the United States through these means is absolutely criminal.
Yes it is. And the fact that our cowardly, corrupt Congress is not standing up and saying ENOUGH. We will build the wall and we will deal with China.
Instead, our President battles on alone against all the forces of evil.
This is what the endgame for globalism looks like. What does it remind you of?
Orwell and Huxley wrote warnings, not “how to” manuals. These globalists obviously weren’t taught by nuns.
Horrifying.
You are free to say and print what we allow.
I know. People actually think like this. Scary.
Hello, Curry. Glady you found your way over here.
IMO since President GHWB was such an exemplary President, I think there should be absolutely no problem at all with President Trump declassifying everything on Monday December 3rd because it can obviously do no harm to the honorable Sir George of the Bush. D3 Declass it all on Monday and just let the snowball roll on to D5.
“Sir George of the Bush.”
All I thought of was “Monty Python”!
Good one, Elizabeth!
If we Declass on D3 will that make D5 the NATIONAL DAY OF MORNING OF THE GREAT AWAKENING?
There is a way to rescue D5.
D-Class IS D5, since Class contains 5 letters.
So, whenever the D-Class happens, that’s the D5
Be flexible. If the enemy moves to block you, adapt 🙂
Good one Jason…
There are other D5 entities besides a date…
http://www.d5coalition.org
SD just posted the following:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/01/the-fbi-raided-my-sisters-house/comment-page-1/#comment-6400398
I posted the following:
I look at SD’s last point and wonder if our President got played last night to send the tweet that he did advising us to watch Hannity?
The only reason our President would have tweeted that while he is in Argentina 🇦🇷 participating in the G20 was because of the John Solomon piece.
“wonder if our President got played”
Nope. Not. Negative. Nyet.
And your last sentence (“only reason”) doesn’t allow for other, VSG reasons.
Don’t you go negative on us, Fle!
I would add … PLEASE!
Do – and think – what you wish, of course … but … I find that “Over There” is now POISON.
“I look at SD”
See? Right there…
I DON”T look anymore. I find no need.
Still thankful, though, for past knowledge imparted …
I think it is unlikely PDJT got played.
After reading your post, I went over and read Sundance’s piece. TBH, I am finding his analysis on all things coup related unreliable these days because it seems to be overlaid by a deep, dark, damp, gloomy layer of despair and that makes it difficult to assess the nuances.
I am waiting with bated breath for the next shoe to drop.
It is a shame that Treepers can’t have differing opinions yet still be part of Trump’s Army on CTH. I choose not to follow Q. However, I am intrigued in those that do and enjoy hearing their beliefs. I consider them a branch of the Army. I tend to find mysel engulfed with our President’s agenda and how it can long last him for generations to come. I see others like myself in a different branch of our President’s Army.
What binds us all together is that we are all part of the same team fighting on behalf of our President in different arenas.
It’s all good, Felice. I agree with you. We need to stand together in this fight. Regrettably, it is hard to stand with someone when they are pushing you away, hard.
But this fight is bigger than all of us and it is going to take all of us doing what we can. You write wonderful, encouraging posts that you back up with logic and facts. I pray. We all have our jobs to do!
That is why I will go wherever others go to. I want to do my part to get information out to others that are doing their part. It is the only way we can educate our families, friends and others. It can have a multiplier effect.
This is the main reason I post on FB.
I like the tone of this post, Flep.
Hi Flep!
So, am I reading in this that SD is now questioning Whitaker’s motivations?
Because I don’t think Whitaker is a black hat. No way.
What if Whitaker received information that these documents existed? Would he necessarily have been told that the person who had them had whistleblower status? I am truly puzzled by how it all works. If Whitaker didn’t order the raid, who did?
Viewed in a bad way, as SD says, then the black hats are up to no good, again. Viewed in a positive light, RR and Mueller are at least grey hats.
I think Whitaker is the man SD outed as the source for all the information we have been getting out of the DOJ for the past year. That would suggest that HE is the one who leaked to John Solomon that there is a third whistleblower talking to Huber.
Man, this has been a day!
I agree! If Whitaker were a Black Hat as well, we don’t have any hope when it comes to the DOJ. You will never find an honest man or woman that would be willing to do what is right.
IMO, we always have hope as long as we have PDJT! And I still believe that, yes, there ARE still honorable men and women out there. I am not going to give in…..I refuse….I listen to the Christian singer Josh Wilson. Whenever my granddaughter gets in my truck with me, she always asks for his song – my favorite – called “I Refuse.” First verse and refrain:
“I Refuse”
Sometimes I
I just want to close my eyes
And act like everyone’s all right
When I know they’re not
This world needs God
But it’s easier to stand and watch
I could say a prayer and just move on
Like nothing’s wrong
But I refuse
Cause I don’t want to live like I don’t care
I don’t want to say another empty prayer
Oh I refuse to
Sit around and wait for someone else
To do what God has called me to do myself
Oh I could choose
Not to move
But I refuse
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/joshwilson/irefuse.html
Thank You 🙏 for sharing!
I like Ristvan’s theory posted on an earlier thread. Should have saved the link.
I’ll go back and look for it.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/11/30/the-empire-strikes-back/comment-page-1/#comment-12565
ristvan
November 30, 2018 at 11:29 am
“Lurking Lawyer here, for the first time. Found you all via JasonD and a discussion of hybrid vehicles elsewhere. Not interested in Q, but am in all matters Trunp/Mueller/Clinton, and justice finally being served concerning the ‘insurance plan’ by Deep State.
I disagree with the interpretations both here and at CTH about the FBI raid on Cain. Here is why.
There had to be a search warrant with probable cause, signed by a judge.
That means there has to be a legitimate underlying investigation of a suspected crime or crimes. Ordinarily that means a federal prosecutor using FBI for investigation to build the case. Ordinarilynitbis the prosecutor who applies for the search warrant, whichnis then executed by the FBI. May or may not already involve a grand jury.
Uranium 1 and Clinton Foundation pay to play both count as potential crimes that coild be under serious investigation.
But, whistleblower docs previously turned over to DoJ do NOT provide probable cause, because the government already has them. So there must be something more.
Now Cain as whistleblower means he was involved or aware. So, probable cause that he had more info than was turned over is a plausible pathway.
Not something sinister, something potentially good.”
Sadly, this is mostly boilerplate and nothingburger. Not buying it.
Read it over very carefully. It is a non sequitur.
I don’t know what you mean.
And don’t pretend to understand all that is going on – only hope for the best – and best intentions from our President and his people.
Yeah, it’s complicated.
I had a huge post deconstructing what Ristvan wrote, and decided to just scrap it.
There are several very sleazy and easy ways that this process could be used by Mueller and the bad guys to get a look at exactly what the whistle-blower had. This is also EXACTLY what Q has been talking about with Mueller.
What Ristvan lays out is the normal mechanics of a “legitimate” warrant. Well, the FISA on Trump was “legitimate” until you look very closely. Legitimate does not equate to “good”.
If Mueller OR a “colluding” prosecutor simply pretended that he/she did not know what this whistleblower had (which fits SD’s latest post, where the FBI on-site seemed not to know this guy was a whistle-blower), all he needs to do is accuse him of having highly classified documents, take that to a politically sympathetic judge who doesn’t know it’s a whistle-blower, and get a warrant. And we’re talking a guy who went after Trump’s personal attorney in a concocted raid.
Mueller seems to be interesting in INTELLIGENCE on the other side.
So – I now offer the “other side” to show me an equally detailed potential reason why this raid would have helped the good guys.
Good analysis. When I read Ristvan’s post – my first thought was – “The Warrant/Judge process has been corrupted – especially the FISA warrant.”
all i want to know is who is the contractor providing that impressive brown paper they always have in tow to cover doors and windows? and so many banker’s boxes. is the brown paper pre-adhesive applied with rip off strips or do they use 3m duct tape?
See updated ristvan comment here
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/11/30/the-empire-strikes-back/comment-page-1/#comment-13793
Methinks he’s a bit too charitable. His job might depend on it. Mine doesn’t.
Based on Mueller and Rosenstein’s past behavior (Cohen raid), the extent of corruption throughout the FBI nationally (personal knowledge), the proximity of this raid to recent and past politicized FBI raids and “Awan justice”, the similarity of both M.O. and MOTIVE to the Cohen raid (gaining intelligence through LAWFARE), and the fact that this isn’t just some run-of-the-mill case, but the one that was going to be talked about shortly, I am going to presume there is a greater likelihood of malfeasance than not.
But that’s just me. I’m not a lawyer. I’m at the other end of the FBI gun.
Sorry – I try to be dispassionate about the jackboots, but it’s hard.
That’s a not so nice coinkydink – I just referenced jackboots in a post 2 mins ago re the situation in Europe
Can you hear the sounds of goose stepping?
I noticed that, too. The simulation has its charms.
You like Musk’s simulation “theory”?
Whom would’ve played him, and, to what benefit?
Getting people’s hopes up only to have it destroyed based on Huber’s testimony.
We won’t ‘hear’ Huber’s testimony…
I maintain that if Huber is testifying before Congress his ‘investigation’ is finished (or he would not go)
Also maintain that Huber has already reported to Whitaker (not RR)
I think ‘we’ have made it Dec 5th… when Q’s message could be many things… Jason D pointed to this above.. D5 could be D class (5 letters)
I don’t understand why anyone would want to reconcile what SD says with what Q says… kinda schizoid
btw – the business about “sister’s apartment” being raided SD refers to, came from Geo Webb… 22 hrs ago… he has been accused by some Q followers of being the leak of Huber info… Needless to say I won’t be visiting Geo Webb’s site again.
https://twitter.com/GeorgWebb/status/1068846016827465728
https://twitter.com/GeorgWebb/status/1068710348721741825
Considering the National Day of Mourning on Dec. 5, would there even be any testimony that day? Will the committees even meet? IDK – just spit-ballin;.
I second Emeraldstar’s plea – wished I could post over there when I read it – please don’t go negative. Believe that our VSGPDJT did NOT get played! You know this, flep! Hang on! You know PDJT would NOT depend solely on Solomon! Right?
I do! I was putting out there for SD to respond to it. I want to get him on record.
Cool beans. We depend on you!
Praying Medic twitter thread on Q drops.
Tweets by prayingmedic
Anyone know anything about this guy?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/navy-admiral-scott-stearney-found-dead-bahrain-no-foul-play-n942611
The Navy admiral in charge of the military branch’s operations in the Middle East was found dead in Bahrain on Saturday, the Navy said.
Vice Admiral Scott Stearney was found dead in his residence in Bahrain Saturday and no foul play is suspected, Chief of Naval Operations Admiral John Richardson said in a statement. The Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the Bahraini Ministry of Interior are cooperating on the investigation.
Stearney took over as commander of U.S. Naval Forces Central Command and the Combined Maritime Forces in May, where he commanded more than 20,000 U.S. and coalition sailors, Marines, Coastguardsmen, and civilians. Stearney served 36 years in the Navy.
No age so I kind of worked backwards, given the year he graduated with a bachelor’s, so anywhere from late 50’s to early 60’s? Heart attack, maybe? Whether it is suspicious or not will depend on his connections, whatever they may be, IMO.
Just saw over on Twitter that it is now being reported that Stearney committed suicide.
https://bnonews.com/site/index.php/2018/12/top-u-s-naval-commander-scott-stearney-found-dead-in-bahrain/
Not good.
These days, it is hard to ‘not’ be suspicious of the untimely deaths of people who might “know something”.
With all that we have learned about…being suspicious has become my default position.
This Vice Admiral Scott Stearney took over that command position in May?
Hmmm…
Admiral Mike Rogers stepped down from his command of the NSA, CSS and USCYBERCOM…on May 4th, 2018.
Bahrain is the banking capital for the Arab world.
Are any of these things connected? …I have no idea.
But like I said, it is hard to not be suspicious when a Vice Admiral dies unexpectedly.
For the “WHO” was his “master” thing……. Research “Skull and Bones”
Very enlightening stuff.
Here is a very interesting post by Ramon710 on Voat:
Q!xowAT4Z3VQ 8 Apr 2018 – 12:09:57 PM
…
POTUS NEVER telegraphs his moves.
Think logically.
Why did POTUS announce his intention to pull out of Syria?
Moves and countermoves.
These people are STUPID (& SICK).
Q
As Q says, “Moves and Countermoves”
The Plan moves along regardless of what the DS/Cabal throws at us.
It is odd that Q has been broadcasting Dec 5th so loudly. I found it odd to begin with, as Q and the MI do not broadcast operational milestones so readily. Therefore. I have concluded that the Dec 5th was a trap set up by Q and the MI to provoke a large move from the DS/Cabal and the DS/Cabal just fell in the trap..
Trump is leaving Argentina ahead of time as the planned timetable moved up.
THINK LOGICALLY PEOPLE!!!
The DS/Cabal reads Q posts and the decodes of many Anons as much as we ALL do, if not MORE!!!.
In other words, maybe the Q team wants them all together in Washington on Dec. 5th.
I will be quite satisfied, if all that happens on the 5th, is that there is some solid confirmation that Huber is, in fact, on the precipice of indictments. This is despite it’s a closed hearing.
Our President is a class act.
I have no doubt that he will authorize whatever requests the Bush family makes, for the funeral arrangements, etc.
I thought I left the CTH…
But no matter what thread I read on or post on,
there’s reams of discussion about the owner of that old watering hole…
LOL.
I need to post more articles. I have a bunch of almost done ones. What’s the word? Oh, yeah….
SOON. 😉
Looking forward to “SOON” 😉
The wound is raw still. I just found out yesterday. Its crazy. And adjustment will take time. I hope SD sends an olive branch at some point, but give it a bit more time.
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1069039784855781376
Those “leaders” ought to be arrested.
Well, speaking of which……
I agree with the mayor…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_vyg0JRhXQ
man i cannot believe some of the photos – just the most obvious part with the intact surroundings around absolutely wrecked houses cars and other buildings.
I keep wondering why all the car doors are closed? If my car was on fire and I had time to get out I wouldn’t shut the door.
“If […] I had time”
There’s your answer. They didn’t.
the spot strikes seem almost impossible. surrounding area in great condition seemingly.
the helicopter shots of the smoke action – would like to get some perspective on that from someone with knowledge but it seems strange on first and second glance to me. that one time they zoomed in and this white smoke was just coming up so fast it was incredible.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-12-01/killing-kennedy-kremlin-collusion-deep-state-forced-out-shadows
“”The CIA lies with astonishing proficiency. It has made an art form of ‘plausible deniability’… Like glimpsing an octopus in murky waters, you know it’s there, but it shoots enough black ink to obscure its movements…”
The man primarily responsible for the mammoth power the CIA wields and the destruction it manifests 24/7 is being made into a hero as I type. Let that sink in.
just got this in my email, thought I would share
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1068974498576285698.html?utm_source=email&utm_medium=alert&utm_campaign=internal
Quote:
“HOW exactly do you prove that all those billions of dollars made their way from the Russians into the bank accounts of the right people here in the West to bribe them in order to facilitate the Uranium One deal?
You have to follow DOZENS of money trails through shell corps.
You have to trace the transfer of billions of dollars through different banks and shell corporations. It takes time to build a rock solid case where you can PROVE in a court of law with defense lawyers SCREAMING their clients are being railroaded exactly who got what & how much.”
I can’t begin to imagine the gargantuan task of investigating the massive dealings of the Clinton ‘Foundation’
Charles Ortel has been working on it for years – has 40 cases of fraud lined up.
Our President and his Killers took the damn Chinese to the cleaners this evening! All China 🇨🇳 got was a 90 day reprieve starting on January 1st. The tariffs on the $200 billion dollars of imports will stay at 10% rather than go up to 25%.
Look at everything we got in return!
For companies like GM and Apple, they are not happy because the status quo is far worse than having some final conclusion. They absolutely HATE uncertainty. That is exactly what they got out of this agreement.
Our President will kindly remind them and the American public via twitter that WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS!
WINNING feels so damn good!
the guy is a complete madman!
Thanks so much…. now watch the media ignore it.
Which is why I be spreading it to a bunch of NE groups on FB!
This^^^^^^ will help BIGLY here in farmland! The farmers are VERY nervous and if this happens fast enough, wow, is it ever going to be a GREAT Christmas and PDJT will re-solidify his position in flyover country.
Im glad to see that china and big tech get to maga the hard way. And they didnt havevto make it like this. I just wondervwhat the details in what they will be buying are? Like, are they just going to buy more pork from their own farms without a bigger tarriff?
Robert Barnes… a much respected atty (whom SD has RT’d)
Barnes RT’d this qanon tweet
https://twitter.com/WeAreOne_Q/status/1069059685548994560
many such events dot the career of a true patriot.
I hope some of the low-info people are paying attention… noting what POTUS is doing for ex-President GHWB, lowering the flag, sending AF1, etc., things done only for a former president, not a dang senator.
Pure coincidence, I’m sure. But this evening, big news was made between China and the U.S. (President Trump and his team of 8). It fits Q drop 2516. Ya, nevermind. I’m just gonna leave it to the Autist’s.
UTTER HORROR – a nightmare!
Yup, the jackboots are being buffed as we speak – the fruit of the Enlightenment are finally rotting on the ground, crawling with worms …
Put Humanity at the top of the hierarchy – and then authoritarianism is wielded in support of this highest goal.
Humanism will crush the individual for the greater good. Free speech – yu gotta be kidding, right!!!
Go Europe – we are watching you race for the cliff!! You are quite fast for such a near dead corpse – your speed is impressive!! I never thought you could embrace your death so rapidly – but then I never realised how empty your soul was …..
Amen, Jason. And this is exactly what they want for all of us.
Yup – for our own good, mind you. They consider themselves to be “saints” working FOR humanity. GAG!!!
We are seeing a replay of the Old Testament. Whenever the Children of Israel fell into sin/disobedience, the pagan spirit of Assyria/Islam would rise up and attack and take them captive until they repented and returned to the LORD and His LAW.
Isaiah 10:5 – Assyria is the rod of discipline in the hand of the LORD.
Isaiah 26:3 and 30:15 – repent…return.
Isaiah 31:8-9 – The sword of man cannot defeat Assyria – only the Sword of the Lord (the Word of GOD)
Nehemiah 8-9 – how the Commandments were found.
Western nations have passed laws that allow us to break all of GOD’s commandments and some that would force us to do so. Until we repent and return to GOD, Islam will be a problem.
We cannot break GOD’s laws/commandments – they are written in stone/eternal/unchanging/non-repealable – we only break ourselves and others, like ships dashing against a rocky shore, when we attempt to do so.
Yes – the rise of humanism,communism, islamism etc are the results of rejecting God.
As Western Europe became more and more decadent liberal leftist – then came more and more Islamists.
Now look at the trouble they are having with Islamists raping their women and children, burning, destroying, demanding blasphemy laws and Sharia courts.
Now any speech against UN migration plan bringing more muslims will be punished by prison.
Addendum: “Nehemiah 8-9 – how the Commandments were found – after being lost and forgotten – and the people repented.”
Oh for an edit button on WordPress!
mot sure why i just heardcabout this very recently and all of a sudden its going into law in 10 days? this is very bad and we must all all cost cut ties with this. full internet censorship is coming. and i do not mean a twitter ban 10 day. i mean knocks on your door in real time. already common in uk and europe mainland now i am sure.
Lord, may Your grace and mercy wrap the hearts of those whose lives have been shaken and disrupted by the Alaskan earthequake.