Author Logistics Thread

This thread is for communication between and among AUTHORS about grunge stuff, scheduling, etc. Blog work. It is public to deter any kind of abuse. This is like the Wikipedia “talk” section. It replaces Gab chat and MOST (if not all) “private messages to Wolf”.

Non-author members of the site are welcome to observe, but please do not comment unless asked to provide information. I want to keep these proceedings very efficient.

Enjoy!

W

Pull up a chair and let’s talk. Yes, there are spies in the cafe, but we’re in PARIS, friends! Enjoy the show!
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thinkthinkthink

We all have our moments with date confusion. Is all well now?

thinkthinkthink

I’m beginning to think we will need to be running our WP activities sandboxed in virtual machines.
The least resource demanding would probably be https://www.sandboxie.com
A more intensive option would be VirtualBox or VMware.
It’s less demanding resource wise than “burner computer” option, but would take a learning curve investment to implement.
For a lightweight initial option, maybe using a separate locked down browser just for WP work.
Any other ideas?

thinkthinkthink

Interesting… vocabulary word for this article: “neoliberalism” … Sen Harris, Doh-CA is sinking.
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/465008-saagar-enjeti-ride-is-likely-over-for-kamala-harris

thinkthinkthink

Okay, for a refresher…
UNDERSTANDABLY — IT WAS A BIG BIG BIG DAY YESTERDAY — one of our authors fell asleep at the keyboard and the MAGA Open was delayed. Happily Wolf was on the case, so I hit the sack knowing something would be posted, but it reminded me that I don’t remember our guidelines for this kind of event.
If we don’t see an Open posted before ????, then any author can throw together a backup for that day.
IS THAT RIGHT?
Thanks for taking it on this time Wolf.
If we didn’t have such early hours at our house, I would have tried harder to remember the plan.

thinkthinkthink

Next time! 🙂

thinkthinkthink

Nothing to apologize for. Everyone gets to fall asleep at the keyboard once in a while. 🙂

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thinkthinkthink

I LOVE LOVE LOVE this place!
Beautiful to see it all running like a well-oiled machine (and it is well-oiled with prayer) while our host, the great and terrible Wolfmoon is off on a secret mission to contribute his part to saving the world.

thinkthinkthink
thinkthinkthink

Have you ever heard of a kind hearted couple that took in foster kids that needed a lot of help healing and learning to be part of a family but they allowed one of the foster kids to abuse the other children because, well they were kind hearted? This is starting to look a little too much like that scenario. Check yourself. This is too important a place to get this wrong. Thanks.

wheatietoo

But if troll boy keeps picking on Duchess…then it’s probably time for the Wolf to growl at him, boss.

wheatietoo

I get what you’re saying boss, I do.
But the toxic effect that the disruption trolling has on this place will result in people just leaving.
It already has.
Attention-seeking behavior is one thing…but bullying people is another.
Bullies love it when people turn the other cheek because it gives them power.
They use it to their advantage, thinking that they can get away with anything…and if anyone stops turning the other cheek, then they can accuse them of hypocrisy and thus act ‘superior’.
This has a demoralizing effect on the community as a whole…because people don’t like to see unmoderated bullying.
So they just leave.
It’s up to you, boss, of course.
But in this case…I think a stern warning could have a positive effect, without resorting to the banhammer.

thinkthinkthink

Messy. Don’t really want to invest much time in your lab experiments at this point.
“Keep it civil” assumes some self policing. While I admire your commitment to the guy in the gutter, I’d rather not be thread author while this goes on because I don’t see it at hospitality when the town drunk is vomiting on the other guests. I’m not threatening to quit, I’m telling you how I feel about this. I’ve been on the line for months considering to take a break or maybe even retire from authoring on your site simply because I have taken on more commitments in the local arena. The only thing that has kept me from stepping away has been my love and appreciation for you and the other authors and commenters here.
What you choose to do is solely up to you. You are the boss. I’m profoundly grateful for what you have created here and I am in no way second-guessing your approach. Thank you.

thinkthinkthink

Here you go.
A little something to post in replies to “naughty” posts.

wheatietoo

Thanks, boss.
I’ll keep an eye out.

thinkthinkthink

OT question: did you see my second reply about dreaming about the homeless being weaponized? Same principle could apply to other communities as well. Carelessness can be weaponized.

thinkthinkthink

Catch him throwing the first pie.
Got it boss.
Much appreciated.

thinkthinkthink

🙂

thinkthinkthink

Big Mama Tea did fuss at OT for the bannings a few months back. I think that might have kicked some of us out of the dog house. We still don’t know who was/is monitoring our activity on this site and initiating the bans. At the time it seemed all so strange and life was too busy to invest in the crazy. Love my people here and so here I stay. Thanks for all you do Daughn.

thinkthinkthink

In reply to above discussion about civility and uncivility…
In her usual succinct manner, DP has summed up an observed behavior pattern.

And the big issue, IMO, was a combination of personal attacks, ridicule of belief systems, and baiting participants.

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/07/on-expectations-of-civility/#comment-304406
After thinking it over, I highly doubt that this behavior will change on this site based on the m.o. as observed up to this point. An enlightening self-description came when he described what he considered fun for the trick or treat guests to their home. A sign on the tent he sat in said, “don’t look” and when they violate the injunction, the consequence dealt out is a full blast of cold water to soak the offender. Asymmetrical attacks that apparently soothe the person’s missing sense of feeling powerful in their life. Adults shouldn’t need to assault others, especially children, to meet some need in their world. Especially when the payload carries not just intensity but apparent malice as well.
In regards to needing to step down for now…
I do appreciate having a good enemy from time to time to strengthen me and develop a greater love for the One who died for me when I was still His enemy as well. And therefore I’ve been doing a lot of processing and listening since yesterday’s new developments.
I came up with strategies for how I would fully lean into remaining engaged. And then I finally just asked the question, “What am I to do?” and the answer was very clear, “Let it go.” This has probably been the answer since about July, but as usual I’ve been fighting my inner knowing that I need to step away from a current commitment to engage with other new commitments.
The timing of this is going to cause some people to assume I’m unhappy with the site or Wolf or others. Not true and I don’t really want to have a long discussion about it. Some people are just going to get it wrong and nothing I say will likely help.
I love this site and I love how it have challenged me, stretched me, made me a better person. But I must follow my heart and step away from the commitment to post the Sunday open, perhaps remaining active in comments when I have the time or fading away if that is what is needed for the other work I’m engaged with now.
You have my respect, my appreciation, and my affection, all.

thinkthinkthink

I’m sorry Daughn.
I thought it might hit you harder than most because you are a community builder like me. Just know you will always be in my heart with great admiration.

thinkthinkthink

Thanks for understanding!
And yes, if an open door isn’t too much of a temptation,
leaving it open seems perfectly reasonable.
Blessings and grace to you along with all who dwell here.comment image

thinkthinkthink

Thanks. Just admitting I needed a break rolled a huge weight off me and I was 2x as productive at the office today.

thinkthinkthink

And yet. Nothing I love more than launching a new product. It’s been a good run.

wheatietoo

Oh no…this is sad news, Think*3.
I will miss your Sunday threads and miss having you here on a regular basis.
🥺😞
But I understand, because I know how the weight of that commitment can weigh heavy at times.
I hope you’ll continue to check in with us here, though.
I will miss your valuable contributions.

thinkthinkthink

Don’t be sad! We –every one of us– will always have the Q Tree in our hearts. What we let go of today opens up room to embrace what is coming tomorrow. The BEST is yet to BE.

thinkthinkthink

I am very sorry D.P.
Your own steadiness have been a support for me in my own times of trial. Thank you for that. If break can help you retain your steadiness, it’s worthy of asking our source of Wisdom for the wisdom to know how to proceed.
I can recall the very moment I discovered that nearly all of my family had been “making nice” for all my life but once the restraining influence (elder) in the family passed away, all the ugliness manifested. It was a horrible shock which took a very long time to resolve. Turns out the circle of people that were truly mature was far smaller than I thought.
Here’s what I am seeing…
The ability to truly SPEAK FREELY is “heap big medicine.” Many people living in adult bodies have no concept of the level of maturity it takes to PROTECT OTHERS FROM YOUR POWERFULNESS.
But, eventually those without the maturity to protect others from their powerfulness will discover that they become ruled by tyrants (surrogate parents) until such time as they can develop their own ability to exercise restraint.
Wolf will either let it become Lord of the Flies or he will develop benign tyranny for those that need it.

thinkthinkthink

Nikki’s post from today may be apropos.

BLESSED ARE THE SCORNED
Michael Youssef, Ph.D.
Nov 8, 2019
beatitudes sermon on the mount countercultural culture
Jesus closes His beatitudes with a double blessing: “Blessed . . . blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness” (see Matthew 5:10-11). The world loves people who are easygoing, flexible, not too caught up on Truth or conviction. Society says, “Happy are those who live and let live, who mimic the culture and its values.” Yet, Jesus ascribes happiness to those who are persecuted for His name.
Jesus was persecuted because He spoke the Truth, lived the Truth, and was willing to die for the Truth. And as we claim Jesus as the way, the Truth, and the life, we can expect the same (see John 15:18-21). Now, there are some who want to claim persecution for being offensive and unkind; Jesus does not promise them blessing. Rather, living righteously like Jesus is naturally offensive. Why? Because it reminds people of their wickedness.
When you suffer because you are distinguished from the world, be glad! When you are attacked for the sake of Christ or targeted because of His righteousness in you, rejoice! Be glad because they are treating you as they treated our Savior. Rejoice because your inheritance in heaven is great—greater than you could ever hope for or imagine.
Prayer: Jesus, thank You that You are always with me—that in any circumstance I can rejoice because You are faithful. I rest in Your promises, in the hope of glory I have by Your blood. May I bring You honor as I persevere in faith, hope, and love by the power of Your Spirit at work in me. I pray in the name of Jesus. Amen.
“Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven” (Matthew 5:10).

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/09/dear-kmag-20191109-open-topic/comment-page-2/#comment-306193

thinkthinkthink

EXACTLY.
In a way, Wolf drew them out.

michaelh

BTW DP, I think I need to tell you, I’m sorry for being an ass.
Though at least I hope I’m a loveable ass! 😉

scott467

DP, I’m sorry anyone made you feel that way today. It shouldn’t be that way.
You do a great job of standing your ground and I admire your faith and commitment. If I was picking people to fight alongside with against the black hats, you’re on that list. 👍
Teasing is one thing, and spirited debate is one thing, but being mean-spirited to the point where someone is genuinely upset just isn’t right, especially among MAGA patriots, and even more so among Christians.
I spent a couple years fighting in the comments section at places like Breitbart, back when 1,000 comments was a big deal (I just checked, there is a thread over there with over 17,000 now), so it was small enough that you could have extended debates with Lefties.
It was great training or practice, but it makes no sense to treat people on our own team (the people here) like this is a ‘live fire’ exercise. It’s one thing to spar and build each other up, and minor injuries are par for the course sometimes — but it’s a whole different thing to hurt somebody on purpose.
There are lots of effective strategies to deal with online opponents, and I wrote a whole long post before I realized that’s probably not what you want to talk about right now. I saved it, so I can post it later, if you’re interested.
What I really wanted to say is that there are lots of people here (including me) who value your contributions and look forward to your comments, so I hope you’re not upset to the point of thinking about leaving.
This is a great group of people here, the best that I’ve ever been around. There is so much happening right now, and this election year is going to be a crazy fun ride. There’s no better place to enjoy it!
Here’s your good morning song, and I hope you have a great day today 😎
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uPZbIezChI
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And if that one doesn’t make you smile, this one has too 😁

thinkthinkthink

So decent since the civility hammer came down, but a few teeth might be showing again. What is your take? Ends with HAHAHA to try and smooth it out?
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/13/20191113-schiff-show-impeachment-hearings-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-309588

thinkthinkthink

P.R. opened the gate and in he went. Cuppa rose to the bait as expected.

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scott467

T3, is this a private thread, or can anybody click in here if they see one of our posts in the “Recent Comments” column along the right hand side of the screen? Pretty sure it’s open to everyone, right?
Is there a way to ‘follow’ certain posters?
It seems like there must be, but if so, I don’t know how. The reason it seems that way is because sometimes when I post, even if it is to an old Article like this one, people see my post and reply or ‘like’ it, and I don’t know how they would be able to do that unless you can ‘follow’ people’s posts here, or they just check the “Recent Comments” column regularly.
By civility hammer, do you mean Wolf’s threat to remove someone from posting on WQTH and move them exclusively to Utree?
I miss so much drama that’s going on around here, and there’s so much happening, that instead of spending a couple hours getting caught up, I have to just skip to what’s current or I end up 5 or 6 threads behind and never catch up.
As for my take, I will wait to hear back from you here first. 👍

thinkthinkthink

Not private. Only restriction is that this is only to be used for author’s discussion. (In my mind it’s ok that you joined to speak a kind word to one of our authors, D.P.)
Don’t think you can follow a specific person. Some get notifications when a reply is made to their posts. They will see those even if it’s older. Anyone using a reader will see all comments (ordered newest to oldest). And yes, recent comments are seen by all.
Correct on civility hammer. You haven’t missed much really. However the back story to the creation of our new wild west playground probably starts here:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/02/17/author-logistics-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-301112

scott467

“Not private. Only restriction is that this is only to be used for author’s discussion. (In my mind it’s ok that you joined to speak a kind word to one of our authors, D.P.) ”
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Hmm… I wonder how I ever stumbled onto this thread then? I don’t remember now, and I’m not in the habit of checking the ‘recent comments’ listing on the right hand side of the screen, but that must have been how I found it.
Thank you for the explanation on the ‘following’, I wondered about that, and wasn’t sure if I was missing something.
My take so far is that the Utree seems to be going well (I haven’t really checked it today yet), it’s just hard to keep up with everything. Before Utree, there was regularly at least one thread here on WQTH that I didn’t really get to or if I did (I do try to read all the articles), I didn’t have time to read 400 or 500 comments, between breaking news and scouring other websites for news and updates that people here would be interested in.
Now with Utree, it’s even harder to keep up with all the threads and comments!
And I WANT to keep up with them, because there’s so much going on here… which is great 👍
So that’s a good problem to have.
Utree has a different ‘feel’ for me than here. Here is more like casual, shoot from the hip and that’s usually close enough, so it’s relaxed or laid back. And I like that. It’s not tense like CTH always was.
Utree reminds me of Breitbart when it had less volume of commenters, so it has an instant familiarity to it, which I also like, for completely different reasons. On BB, there were lots of enemies, so there was a ‘thrill of the hunt’ aspect while looking for someone to fight with that is missing at Utree (because we’re all on the same side of the political fight here), but just knowing that it’s ‘law of the jungle’ changes the atmosphere, and forces you to think a little more carefully before you post, and to take better aim instead of shooting from the hip, because that helps keeps you avoid unnecessary trouble.
People are naturally more careful when everybody has a gun and nobody is afraid to use it 😁
So it’s a little like the Wild West, in the sense that in a town with no law, it’s every man for himself. People either practice their quick-draw skills in order to stay alive, or they’re careful not to provoke anybody. Or some do both.
You can always shoot your way out of trouble, and that’s fun too, but you have to have the time available to commit to it, because if a confrontation starts, you’re kind of obligated to see it through, and that can take a while… when you might rather be reading the latest series of Q posts or some other breaking news, for example.
It’s also very interesting to watch how people process the new environment and adapt.
With regard to the current primary agitator, I think I understand what he’s doing, and I don’t think he’s really trying to ‘hurt’ anyone’s feelings at all. When I didn’t respond in a way that he was looking for a couple or three weeks ago (when he began getting in flame wars with numerous people), he just moved on to find someone who would respond in the way he was looking for.
Like he’s testing, but it’s not pointless, it’s not just provocation for the sake of provocation.
But I see how many people don’t know how to respond to what he’s doing, and they get frustrated, and then confront him angrily — which escalates and then feelings get hurt — but I don’t think that’s his objective, or what he’s trying to do.
If I explain it further, I might spoil it. If I don’t explain it further, he might eventually be kicked off the forum before people figure it out, which would be unfortunate.

thinkthinkthink

Link to discussion about media files on the site, using URLs for non-header images and ways to get the header image sized 14:5 ratio best per Wolf…
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/08/27/dear-moab-yyyymmdd-open-topic-exemplary-daily-post/#comment-240600

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thinkthinkthink

Link, for the record…
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/15/threats-of-personal-violence-even-joking-will-not-be-tolerated-on-either-site
Some are asking where the offending comment can be found. Most likely to help understand your internal gauge for what “over the line” looks like.

thinkthinkthink

The funny thing is I haven’t had time to keep up this week, but I noticed that the trawler was investing time in provoking NF. My exact thought was, ah, he found a new target.

thinkthinkthink

Ah, I see the problem. It’s obvious who is the one doing the provoking and the one who is reacting. Sad for N.F. you have to do what you have to do.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/15/20191115-dear-kmag-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-311605

thinkthinkthink

Bin Checking
Bakocarl asked and Wheatie answered questions on this topic.
Answers copied from here…
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/16/dear-kmag-20191116-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-312412
To access the ‘bin’…you go to “Comments”.
You’ll find that in the menu on the Left Hand side of your editor screen.
Click on ‘Comments’ and you will see the different categories.
Click on “Spam” to see the comments that have landed there.
Click on “Approve”…if it is someone that you recognize and the comment looks okay.
Beware of comments that appear with an orange icon in your notifications.
Those end up in the “Pending” category…and be careful about approving those.
If it is someone you do not recognize, leave it for Wolf to deal with.
When you ‘approve’ of an orange comment, you are giving them access to making comments on the blog.

thinkthinkthink

Very important!

wheatietoo

First, you cursor over the link to it…which can be found in most all of the Open Thread posts.
Then do a right click.
Select “Copy Link”.
Then go to your post that you are creating and highlight the words “Jan 1st open thread”.
Then select the Link Icon up in your tools dashboard.
It looks like this:comment image
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Click on that.
A little box will pop up, with a space at the top of it.
Do a right click on that space and paste the link into it.
I hope I explained this so it made sense!

thinkthinkthink

I would love to see someone make this into the basis for a post at the U Tree (with Scott’s permission, of course)…
Scott, Troll Hammer says:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/15/threats-of-personal-violence-even-joking-will-not-be-tolerated-on-either-site/comment-page-1/#comment-312622

The thing that gets me is that name-calling other posters isn’t even 1-D checkers. Five year olds do that. And what’s with the excitement of feeling free to use profanity?
I mean, if people are going to do it, they’re going to do it, but it’s kind of weird for people in the age group that seems to be a majority on this board to make such a big deal out of it.
Name-calling and profanity for the sake of profanity isn’t even a matter of whether it is ‘appropriate’ or ‘uncivil’ or not — it’s just bad strategy.
It makes the person doing it look bad.
It can never lead to one person causing the other person to withdraw in defeat. It might cause them to withdraw in disgust, but how can that be considered a victory for the other person?
You can’t ‘win’ the audience to your side with personal insults, the best you can ever do is a Mexican standoff while the other person just does the same thing. It’s bad strategy.
This ‘game’ can be (and is) so much more fun if we don’t make the obvious kiddie pool mistakes, and swim over to the deep end (or at least deeper end) instead.
If someone is calling us names on a message board, that shouldn’t make anyone angry, it’s an opportunity. Somebody has just invited us to play, and if that’s their opening shot, you should be smiling, because you’ve already won. All you have to do is let it play out, and when they expose themselves particularly well, drop the hammer. That doesn’t mean swearing at them or calling them names, it means waiting for the right moment and making a post so devastating and effective (or humorous… ridicule is man’s most potent weapon — Alinsky) that any reply your opponent could make only makes them look worse.
They withdraw because you left them no other option. Because you set up a ‘check mate’ scenario.
Calling each other names just cheapens the whole experience! 😁
Anybody can call names. So do something different. Do something they don’t expect. That’s when the game is afoot… and that’s no time to be trading insults, lol!

https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/15/threats-of-personal-violence-even-joking-will-not-be-tolerated-on-either-site/comment-page-1/#comment-313164

I have a lot to learn from everybody. Some days I do better than others 😁
The whole ‘dealing with trolls’ or other Internet opponents is just something I learned or adapted to out of necessity. I wanted to get in the discussions, but nasty Leftists were always derailing interesting exchanges.
So to stop that from happening, I just did what I would do in person, I cracked jokes on them until they stopped or went away. When you do that, others see it and often join in (safety in numbers), which is also fun.
Pretty soon it became like a sport, and it was as much fun as (or more fun than) the discussions I had wanted to participate in, in the first place.
The first time I really went after someone who was just causing trouble, the moderator called me a ‘Troll Hammer’. I didn’t know what that was, I didn’t know it was a compliment, I thought he was attacking me, so I attacked him next for calling me a ‘Troll Hammer’, until it occurred to me what he meant. 😁
The best training ground in my experience is forums where there are plenty of Leftists. They’re nasty, they play dirty, and there is always someone to fight with, day or night. From watching what other people (good guys) do that works, and trial and error on your own part, you begin to see patterns and basic personality types, and various techniques or strategies that work best with certain types of people. Nothing extensive is needed, more like a basic tool set of 4 or 5 different ways to deal with the several basic types of opponents you would regularly face. It’s not very complicated in practice, once you get used to it.
The arguments over on Breitbart didn’t usually involve a lot of profanity. The opponent might, but he usually figured out pretty quick that strategy wasn’t going to help him. It usually involved factual corrections with lots of mockery and ridicule thrown in, because that’s what the Left understands and hates.
Their peers are always watching or participating, so ridicule them in front of their peers. If they don’t withdraw immediately to go look for an easier target, just keep ridiculing them. Most Leftists make it pretty easy to do. Eventually they get angry or frustrated and blurt out some Leftist ideological idiocy. Anybody here at WQTH could easily destroy their talking points, then end with a large dose of ridicule. They hate that, and most of them can’t do it well enough themselves to try to do it back, they just run away. They look for someone easier to pick on, someone who won’t make them look bad.
One of the most effective tactics was to just tread water for a while in the give-and-take. Even after you have developed a few ‘go to’ plays or techniques, you can’t always tell which one would be most effective until you study your opponent for a little while. You can even let them get the better of you for a while. It boosts their confidence and makes them careless. It’s sort of like ‘rope a dope’. They keep attacking, but you’re not tempted to react emotionally to their attacks and lashing out back at them. You’re studying them, seeing what they ‘give away’ in their comments that you can use against them. That takes you out of ‘reaction mode’ and puts you in more of what might be called a ‘hunter’ mode. You’re not taking anything he says personally, you’re testing or prodding or just keeping the conversation going long enough until you spot an opening that you can exploit.
Instead of getting angry (which makes it much harder to get the better of your opponent), you’re smiling. You’re giving them rope to hang themselves with. Keep the back-and-forth going long enough to learn a little about your opponent. Whatever he gives you, whatever he reveals about himself, there will usually be things that can be used to ridicule him later. Let him do it, and wait for him to make a serious mistake, something you can nail him with.
They always do make a serious mistake, some just take longer than others. If they are taking too long, you will have observed them long enough (by that point) to set a few rhetorical traps to speed the process along.
When they do make a mistake, when they expose their neck (i.e., some weakness), that’s the moment to strike. Most of the time they never see it coming. They don’t ‘know’ you, you’re just a random Internet person. But they remember your screen name afterwards. You will know they do, because they almost never test you twice. They’ll avoid you. They’re looking to demoralize or just take their anger out on conservatives, and getting ridiculed or humiliated by a conservative accomplishes the exact opposite of what they’re trying to do. The new guys won’t avoid you (and there’s always new guys), because they haven’t learned yet, but the regulars learn.
If you are using humor to mock them, once you see other conservatives chiming in with ‘laughing’ emojis or other encouragement, so you know even their own people must be laughing at them, then you laugh at them too. Don’t let them off the hook, rub it in. By then they usually have lost all composure, which only makes it easier to mock them. It’s like chasing somebody downhill at that point, and they leave rather than continue to be mocked.
In all the time I was playing that game, very rarely did someone came at me a second time after an experience like that. It’s like a hustle, and they know when they’ve been had, and they don’t want that experience again.
Another effective technique is arguing in the form of asking questions instead of declarative statements. Especially if you can include jabs or ridicule in the process. You don’t want to go full speed on them right at the start, you want to draw them in, let them get comfortable and overconfident, and they’ll get sloppy.
It’s easy to convert a declarative approach to an interrogative approach. For most people, debate by declaration or decree is human nature. You see it all the time. I do it myself (and try to catch it and fix it before I hit ‘post’). All you have to do is take your declarative statement and put a question mark at the end of it, and then change the first couple words to make the statement into a question. It is much harder for your opponent to attack a question than a statement, and it interrupts their entire thought pattern. It puts them on defense instead of offense. They can ignore your questions, but after they do that a couple times, you can use that fact against them too. Mock them for their obvious inability to answer simple questions.
Every opponent is different (which is good, otherwise it would get boring), that’s why you have to tread water for a while, let the argument or debate develop long enough to figure out the best angle of attack. After a while you develop a general outline response to the 3 or 4 most common opponent types, so you’re not starting from scratch each time, and then tweak it or personalize it to your specific opponent, based on what your opponent reveals about himself during the fight. You have an idea what direction you’re going to take the discussion more quickly after you do it for a while, so you don’t have to spend so much time analyzing the opponent. You learn to recognize what kind of opponent you’re dealing with quicker.
One of the best strategies is to make yourself less vulnerable to counterattack. Get in the habit of arguing against your own points as you type. When you instantly/habitually argue against your own points as you write your replies, you see how the enemy will probably attack your points too. Recognize the openings your opponent is likely to exploit, and then either reword your reply to remove that vulnerability, or take the opening away by answering that ‘objection’ yourself pre-emptively as part of your reply. And if you can’t re-word it or make it less vulnerable to counterattack, delete it. It’s better to just not say it, if you can’t say it without leaving yourself open to counterattack.
Attack your own replies to see where the weak points are, and shore them up or fix them if necessary, before you click ‘post’. It is very frustrating for an opponent to not see any obvious angle of attack. If you combine that approach with asking questions, then he’s on defense. Add humor or subtle (or not subtle) mocking, and he’s getting hit with multiple tactics in combination, with no easy way to counter.
It becomes second nature after awhile. It doesn’t take long before it becomes habit. You begin formulating your replies without leaving chinks in the armor, making it hard for the opponent to score a point. The less time you spend on defense (because you purposely didn’t leave any easy openings for your opponent), the more time you can spend on offense, and offense is a lot more fun, once you have sized up your opponent and baited him into making a mistake.
Most of all, it’s a challenge that is also fun. Almost like a sport. And people almost always get better at things they enjoy doing, so don’t forget to have fun with it.
When someone attacks you, and your involuntary response is to grin because the game is on, you’re on the right track 😁

thinkthinkthink

BTW, a thought just crossed my mind today. Predators do not just groom the target of their abuse. They are careful to also build trust and good will with THOSE WHO WOULD OTHERWISE PROTECT their target.
Child molesters groom the parents or caregivers of their target so no one will suspect or believe if told of the abuse to come.
Online stalkers groom the strongest voices on the forum by presenting a false front to recruit their good will, hopefully allowing them a “pass” when they attack their chosen target(s). It seems to me that both Scott and Steve were recruited in this manner. I was watching and made note of the behavior at the time.

thinkthinkthink

Shatter a holographic community and you just get MOAR holographic communities!!!

realsauce

Throwing this out there to the terrific rotation of authors here at the Q tree…
Ozzy (if he’d be interested and needed) would be a terrific bullpen addition to your crew, he such a prolific poster in the early AM aggregating a lot of news from a different angle.
I’m probably stating the obvious or the oblivious…just popped in my head reading through his torrent of posts this AM.
Thanks all

thinkthinkthink

Itswoot, Wheatie and I all have lodged our reservations about allowing in someone who we remember as souring the sauce OT.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/11/26/maga-kag-rally-sunrise-fl-welcome-home/comment-page-5/#comment-322829

wheatietoo

Heads up, boss!
Having trouble with my internet connection…it keeps going out.
Been unable to finish my Open Topic thread post for tonight.
But will keep trying!
Wanted to alert you to the problem…and possibility that you may have to step in.
So sorry.

wheatietoo

Cool. Thx, boss.

wheatietoo

Managed to get it done, boss…it’s scheduled for 12:02 posting.

wheatietoo

It’s in and out…mostly out.
Very frustrating.
Not sure what’s causing it yet.

wheatietoo

No, not really.
I think it could be a physical problem…due to construction in the area.
Got an upgrade earlier today on the firewall installed.
It may be too gonzo and is deciding that No Internet Connection Is Secure Enough To Be Allowed.
Heheh.
Will keep troubleshooting.

MAGA Mom

trying to be discreet in a post I posted but obviously my cleverness has limits and my memory is even more limited as I don’t remember the exacts from what I used last spring. Oh well. This morning’s experience was more of a shock, surprise and frustration v. feelings hurt and sad/angered. Frustrating as it is a venue for MAGA …. but somewhat intriguing.
Will figure it out and will continue to be a force for MAGA in many ways.

MAGA Mom

Got it…I think
Never thought of it as asking you to help with something nefarious. Just goes to show that once again you have a bigger picture view than I. I was just curious. Had actually been curious as to why others who were banned didn’t simply start over with a new screen name, email and, if needed, via VPN. I will ask husband for advice as not something I know much about at all.
Yes, I agree with investing here. In my opinion, the comments section there Needed positive people as I appreciate the articles but hate sending people there these days due to the comments section – some of which is still valuable but much of which is pure discouragement. If even a MAGA site has that much discouragement then it must be true….is what I don’t want people to think!
Plus, it is already a larger platform so comments are amplified. However, I have already switched my more detailed posts to here…in part because they were never asked for over there. You are kind about my input whether helpful or not and that has encouraged me.
I was just asking in what was intended to be an open post with out using my current name in case I was just in a time out over there as it was a surprise to say the least. I was trying to post publicly but with an older wqtree name so as to be discrete but was not trying sort post a private message. It went to the bin because I have forgotten my original, peacemaker motivated name. It was faulty memory v. an attempt to be private or put you in an awkward position, etc. I apologize I came across that way.
Now, to see how long my time out lasts or if just banned. and to decide about screen names. A surprise so don’t really have a plan.
Shake the dust off of my sandals, move on and, yes, I will still read and appreciate the articles of SD at TCH. As to what he would like and what he wouldn’t …. I am the last person to ask as I obviously was wrong since I am now banned!
Appreciate your time.

thinkthinkthink

I’m working very hard at migrating all my computing to a completely different and much more sand-boxed set of platforms.
I came back over here to quickly register the info that you might not see much of me until after Christmas and BOOM, the tyranny of the mini-skirt post by DP was just to fun to not burn some of today’s clock while reading.
Wolf, you’ve created the ultimate intellectual patriot’s “cheers” bar times two.
Kudos and BRB in some weeks my friends.

SteveInCO

I just saw this (I should look on this thread more often, it seems!) and I’ve been doing the same thing.
I’m now running a virtual Linux machine on a Linux machine, right now, and so (in theory) the internet should find itself corralled in a very tiny sandbox here.
The downside is I don’t get two monitors worth of screen “real estate” I don’t even get one, because to make the virtual screen the size of one of my monitors means the borders would need to be accommodated too, and I only have a fixed number of sizes to pick from.

SteveInCO

PRIVATE_MESSAGE_TO_WOLF
(No, it’s not private, but I wanted to be sure you’d see it as I’m asking you a question.)
OK, now for what I came here to post.
I did this: https://marica1776.wordpress.com/2019/12/28/when-you-wish-upon-a-star/comment-page-4/#comment-117741 as a comment over at Marica’s. I’m not sure why, it just sort of “growed.” Their theme today is about wishing on a star.
I hate to see it get buried. I could turn it into one of my “sciency” full-blown posts over here, and normally, I think no one would mind, BUT I know sometimes people get upset with non-original content, even when posted by its originator.
So I thought I would ask.
OK to post this here as a break from politics?

SteveInCO

Well I hope so…I did it back in December! (A tale of two stars)
Come to think of it, I think you did make some positive comments on it.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/12/28/a-tale-of-two-stars/

SteveInCO

Nope, I went and checked. You didn’t comment on that one though maybe you did see the one I did a few days later on Sirius.
I’ve got another topic bouncing around inside my head, but first I’ve got to do a blowout on Uranium on the U tree tomorrow (it’s Uranium day there).

SteveInCO

Nope, you didn’t comment on Sirius either. In case you never saw it:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/01/another-sirius-tale-of-two-stars

bakocarl

Found this thread per you directions . . . thank you. And made the changes per Sylvia’s advice . . . all fixed.
Thank you.

bakocarl

I’m here . . . with a question.
Would it be OK with you if I did a “Midweek Message” thread analagous to the midweek church services that I grew up with? It would just be a simple devotional or a message pulled from the internet, without any intro.
I’ve got one ready to go, planning to drop it 2/19 at 00:04, unless you’d like me to hold off.

bakocarl

Thank you.

bakocarl

I understand the free speech aspect, but I want to be sure that I’m contributing to the success of your blog, and not bending it, even slightly, in a direction that you might not want to go at that time.

thinkthinkthink

Wolf, I just tried to post at the U Tree and got this message:

Server Maintenance
Your server is going through a few minutes of routine maintenance. Please don’t touch your browser for a few minutes.
What do I do?
If you were posting a comment or making a post on your blog then do not press BACK on your browser. Wait 5 minutes and press the refresh icon on your browser. Your comment or post will be sent as normal.
If you are browsing a blog here just wait a few moments and hit refresh. The page you were expecting will appear.

thinkthinkthink

Been searching on the add author issue. Does this help?

You can invite author by adding them into wp-admin >> Users >> Add New. Assign Role as “Author” and keep the “Send User Notification” checked on so the added author can get the notification.

thinkthinkthink

Sigh…

thinkthinkthink

Just checked. Nothing. Plan B, will create a NEW worstpress account and send you the handle via Gab Chat… three decades of working with tech has taught me that sometimes a fresh slate is the best state. 😉

thinkthinkthink

I’m in using the new account!!!

thinkthinkthink

Howdy.

gudthots

Howdy.

gudthots

All systems are go, captain!

gudthots

I’m logged in using a different browser to avoid conflicting WP cookies.
Can you think of any reason for me to keep using the previous account since it’s “broken” in some way I’m unable to figure out? I have no strong attachment. Can keep for archival (photos) use.

thinkthinkthink

seems so

gudthots

Changed it back. Hopefully didn’t break anything!

thinkthinkthink

But, I do like the new name, so maybe okay to change back…

gudthots

Absolutely.
And all the images used in those posts that are on my other site.
It’s like dual citizenship!