Dear KAG: 20191023 Open Thread

October 23 over the centuries has brought a number of highlights. One of them is actually Phyllis Schlafy’s daughter’s in-laws winning the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1947. American immigrants from what was then Czechloslovakia, Carl & Gerty Cori won a legitimate prize for their work in the discovery of glycogen metabolism.

In keeping with the spirit of the Czechs other than Father Gregor Mendel the grandfather of genetics, here is what some Germans did with a famous Czech composer’s best known work with socialist overtones.

Creepy.

Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.

Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though. Seriously, when watching the action, none of this now.

Julie Newmar is right. Those boys are juicy.

And a quick photo I took at Scott Air Force Base at a federal employee fundraising event. The eagle’s name was Liberty, and he was recovering from having been hit by a car. The sanctuary where he was recovering was one of the non-profits featured that day.

And now for some house keeping:

There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules from time to time. In that amazingly long line at the grocery store is a good spot.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.

Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative.

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In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed.

Today’s Lectionary tells us what is our responsibility in the bargain of salvation:


ROM 6:12-18

Brothers and sisters:
Sin must not reign over your mortal bodies
so that you obey their desires.
And do not present the parts of your bodies to sin
as weapons for wickedness,
but present yourselves to God as raised from the dead to life
and the parts of your bodies to God
as weapons for righteousness.
For sin is not to have any power over you,
since you are not under the law but under grace.

What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law
but under grace?  
Of course not!
Do you not know that if you present yourselves
to someone as obedient slaves,
you are slaves of the one you obey,
either of sin, which leads to death,
or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?
But thanks be to God that, although you were once slaves of sin,
you have become obedient from the heart
to the pattern of teaching to which you were entrusted.
Freed from sin, you have become slaves of righteousness.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

And now, on to the day’s news…..

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kinthenorthwest

Oh yes today/Wednesday is Trump Day isn’t it
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1186857193955446784?s=20

pgroup

Uh, every day is Trump Day until 1/20/25

kinthenorthwest

I know—
In 2016 I posted that pic on FB & Twitter every Wednesday with Trump Train Song

Gudthots
kinthenorthwest

I do and this one too…stole the idea for comment from here
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1187073442987667457?s=20

Gudthots

sorry, meant to repost the camelscomment image

pgroup

What a lead in! But you forgot that it’s okay to tease the softies among us. Just don’t bully them – no more than two pokes in the ribs.

kinthenorthwest

Hey I work part-time at a prison with officers — I can take it…LOL
Sock it to me LOL OK I dated myself

OW21

Thought I would leave an interesting tidbit on Pierre Delecto (M. Romney’s) popularity in the state of Utah, which isn’t good news for him. According to the latest Y2Analytics poll for UtahPolicy.com, published 10/21/19 on http://www.ksl.com, Romney’s disapproval rating by Utahns is at 51% saying they strongly or somewhat disapprove, with 4% saying they don’t know. His “strongly approve” rating is at a dismal 16%. Gives me hope that we can get rid of this guy next time around, if he decides to run again. Bye, Pierre….

OW21

I just posted this but will try again as it didn’t show up. According to a recent Y2Analytics poll done for UtahPolicy.com, Mittens Romney – aka “Pierre Delecto” has a disapproval rating of 51% here in my home state. He has a very dismal 16% “strongly approve” rating – http://www.ksl.com post of October 21. Hopefully, we can get rid of this guy if he decides to run again. Bye, Pierre…

OW21

Well, DP – my posts aren’t showing up. WP hijinks?

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll have to look.

OW21

Hmmmm. Third time is the charm, maybe. I have been trying to post about Mitt Romney’s dismal approval numbers here in Utah. Rather than go thru it again, I will just say check out the link on ksl.com, our local news outlet, and read for yourself. October 21 article about Y2Analytics poll. Let’s see if this post makes it. I took out all the details.

jamcooker
OW21

Yes….

Deplorable Patriot

I found a couple in spam. They were approved.

OW21

Thanks, DP. Very weird.

ForGodandCountry

Vile, filthy, disgusting traitor and sellout…owned by Wall Street….errand boy of the Globalists…comment image

ForGodandCountry

Never forget that he was John McStain’s BFF.
Anyone wanna bet he DIDN’T make his best buddy Johnny McStooge a deathbed promise to stab POTUS in the back if he could??
Nah, I didn’t think you would.
Tells you everything you need to know about this RINO rat stink POS.

kinthenorthwest

keep saying I don’t trust him no matter how he tries to kiss …..

ladypenquin

Mentioning John McCain brings a visceral response. Lindsey is likely protecting McCain’s “legacy” as much as his own. When the dominoes fall, McCain’s name is going to be on one of them. I wandered through OT and someone there did an excellent summary about McCain. Not that we need reminders, but I believe that this Ukraine business has stirred the pot. Some things should not be forgotten or looked away from – McCain’s treasonous 40+ years of treasonous behavior is going to haunt us for a long time. He aided and abetted in harming America.
JoeMeek says:
October 23, 2019 at 12:03 am
“McCain was worse than “fundamentally flawed” in the political sense. There was always something very wrong with his character, which wa one of extreme “me-first-and-only” self-entitlement. He was wrongfully admitted to the Naval Academy with bad grades ahead of more qualified applicants because his daddy and granddaddy were admirals. Rules that apply to ordinary people don’t apply to him. He thumbed his nose at Annapolis because he couldn’t be kicked out or flunked out, because he was JOHN MCCAIN, son and grandson of ADMIRALS. He ignored orders and crashed planes, because he couldn’t be disciplined as the son and grandson of admirals. He ditched the wife who stood by him, when he wanted a rich blonde chick young enough to be his daughter, who could finance his political ambition.
He was caught taking bribes to his wife from the Keating 5, so he tried to cover his tracks by imposing the McCain-Feingold nonsense on everyone else (laws only apply to everyone else, not to JOHN MCCAIN). He entertained a blonde lobbyist in ways that worried his staff, and improperly pressured the FCC for her in exchange for …., because he is JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!. He yelled obscenities at other senators who questioned ramming his McCain-Kennedy amnesty through the Senate in the dead of night without debate, and screamed he knew more about it than anyone else – because he is JOHN MCCAIN, a legend in his own mind !!!!!! He has had secret no press allowed meetings to praise Mexico as our dearest friend and closest neighbor, calling enforcement of the laws “Rhetoric”.
As president, McCain, like the man he helped elect. Barack Obama, would have tried to rule by fiat and would make Hugo Chavez look like George Washington. Like the Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts, if any GOP congresscritter disagreed with him “OFF WITH HER HEAD- I’m JOHN MCCAIN, KING OF THE UNIVERSE!!!” There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.”
As a Navy family, John McCain’s name should live in infamy.

OW21

“Where’s Lindsay”????

pgroup

Except that he had a golf expedition with DJT about a week or so ago. I posit that it was then that DJT recruited him to play a part in this little shitshow, pretending to be opposed to the president for awhile.
Keep in mind that even though it’s been almost three years, DJT has still not identified all the deepstate swamp creatures. He has to do that before he pulls the trigger on the swamp draining op. He wants none to escape.
Yes, Miss Lindsey had a bad association with Songbird but he’s gone now and life continues. That close association also provided lots of insider secrets of Senator McSlime to Miss Lindsey who is now free to relay them to DJT. Make no mistake about it – McSlime was neck deep in helping al Qaida and ISIS get munitions and he was neck deep in the overthrow of Libya. He also was neck deep in the silent coup, at least in the beginning.
We do not have enough evidence about Miss Lindsey to make a judgment IMO.

ForGodandCountry

I disagree.
And I think POTUS is playing the ”….keep your enemies closer” thing with this jackass.

kalbokalbs

One of many take awaysfrom, United States of Trump, he trusts no one.

Deplorable Patriot

Time will tell on this one.

ladypenquin

I’m willing to consider your perspective, simply because we believe POTUS knows everything, therefore he has a plan…

patfrederick

I admit I had higher hopes for this man after the Kavanaugh inquisition…thought he had changed…not gonna hold my breath…

OW21

That was very suspicious. I removed any reference to Mitten’s twitter name and any actual statistics and the post went through. What is going on here? Let’s just say that 51% disapproval rating is not good when combined with a 16% approval rating for old Mitt.

Gudthots

WordPress serves a harsh master using stealth sabotage.

OW21

Test. Pierre Delecto.

ForGodandCountry

I’ll take “Name a GOPe POS who intentionally threw his campaign to Obunghole after getting bought off to betray his party” for $1,000 please, Alex.

OW21

Oh, G&C – You have made me laugh tonight! Thank you!

ozzytrumpster

$1000?
So easy it should be 50c and change

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, I think that check had more digits than that.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We actually have a test page set up so people can figure out what gets around WordPress censorship. Feel free to go there and make all kinds of erratic, weird, or failing posts!
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/04/21/wordpress-akismet-censorship-test-page/

OW21

Thanks, Wolfie…

Deplorable Patriot

Boss, I fished the posts in question out of spam. There’s some other stuff in there that looks legit, but aren’t on my posts.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Just cleaned it out!!!

jamcooker

I saw a link to an article that headlined that Mr. Mittens had admitted to his nom de plume. I figure he admitted it because he got “caught”!

OW21

Yes, he did.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Harry Lime

Happy Mole Day!comment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOO-HOO!!! 😉

patfrederick

dontcha mean Holy Mole-y?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

gil00

comment image

Cuppa Covfefe

Just think if he’d been named Avocado…
Would that make it Guaca Mole Day? 😀

Gudthots

So, so funny. Don’t ever stop Cuppa.
You are part of the moral department for our tree!

ForGodandCountry

It’s mole day???
Oh hell to the yes!! I love mole!comment image

gil00

Yum!

bakocarl

. . . and with that plate of delight, you can see that avocado’s number works perfectly.

Deplorable Patriot

Is there a way to do it without the cinnamon? Allergic. 😪 Being allergic to spices is so annoying.

Aubergine

I would try substituting a combo of 3/4 ground allspice and 1/4 ground mace for cinnamon.

Deplorable Patriot

Thanks.

Linda K Harrison

I have McCormicks ground allspice and it is made with cinnamon, nutmeg and cloves. Not a good choice if you are trying to get away from cinnamon. Be sure to check the labeling and contents of the brand you choose..

andyocoregon

Make that Judicial Watch instead.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

A really great tweet – check the replies. Canadians doing a post mortem on the election and how IMMIGRATION is being weaponized against them. MUCH talk about secession.

ForGodandCountry

ozzytrumpster

Talk about becoming a stranger in your own land

Cuppa Covfefe

And you can’t get much stranger than Princess Sparkley-Socks and the Purple Princess in the shrink-wrap dress…

ozzytrumpster

Thankyou
That reminder made my brain bleed

gil00

8.2 million. Wow.

scott467

” Canadians doing a post mortem on the election and how IMMIGRATION is being weaponized against them.”
_________________
Might have been a good idea to have that discussion before the election…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA! Yup.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

andyocoregon

Watch them claim they cannot be found.

scott467

I’ll be surprised if Wray even bothers to go to the trouble of making up a lie.
He knows Grassley isn’t serious, and even if he was… Wray isn’t serious.
It’s just a slapstick routine without the humor.

pgroup

Uh-oh. I smell trouble. For the dirtbags.

ForGodandCountry

Yeah! I mean, there is no Wray they can just ignore it, right.
Right?
I mean…right??
(burp)

Cuppa Covfefe

If there were, he would be a fey Wray…

ForGodandCountry

Oooooooooo…..a letter!! A demanding letter!
And fired off, no less!
Shit’s about to get for REALS, y’all.
They’re in sooooo much trouble now!comment image

scott467

SOON!
[a word whose meaning was changed to “never”, but nobody was told]

scott467

Ooohhh… fired of a letter….
Well.
That’s impressive.
Letter-man strikes again.
I’m sure Chrissy is taking that with all the serious he has taken every other demand for any signs of life since he was sworn in.

andyocoregon

This is ridiculous and has been all over the local news in Oregon. Corvallis is a college town and this young woman is 16 years old and has a huge attitude. She appears to be a Sovereign Citizen Wannabe. She said twice, “I don’t answer questions”.
What aggravates me about this situation is all the liberal morons who have come down against the officer who was only doing his best to maintain his composure and identify her so he could write her a citation. She chose to resist arrest and not comply with the law. The NAACP had an outdoor press gathering today about this and the former police chief also spoke out against the officer.
And they wonder why young men don’t care to have a law enforcement career these days.
https://katu.com/news/local/former-police-chief-things-went-wrong-in-corvallis-arrest

patfrederick

wonder if they couldn’t have impounded the bike and made her pay to get it back since she wouldn’t prove who she was or if she owned it?

wheatietoo

New Movie…looks like it might be good.
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It’s a faith-based movie that supports the 2nd Amendment.
Kevin Sorbo stars in it and plays Rick, a father of five.
Storyline is that a collapse of society happens and total anarchy breaks out.
When armed marauders show up at their home, the family takes to the woods to survive.

wheatietoo

Here’s a Synopsis of the movie:
https://www.thereliantmovie.com/synopsis

andyocoregon

That does look good. Lots of action and a few good actors. I’ll watch for it in the future on RedBox. We almost never go to the cinemas anymore due to all the noise and cellphones, etc. Plus the high prices for tickets are a real turnoff.

ForGodandCountry

If this really was a faith-based movie the family would have been armed and had faith….faith that their ARs and sawed off shotguns would put the STANKY McSTANKERTON on anyone who tried to maraud their house.
God never said, “Thou shall not kill.” He said, “ Thou shall not commit murder.”
Moreover, in a “collapse of society” in which anarchy breaks out people like us here in the QTree would very quickly band together with like-minded others for safety in numbers. And I guaran-GD-tee you we’d be armed like John Wick on a vendetta.

cthulhu

That is a great scene from a great movie…….that probably could not be made today….

Deplorable Patriot

None of Mel Brooks’ stuff could be made today.

andyocoregon

Our First Amendment Rights are under attack by the progs in New York City and Connecticut.
https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=13898

ForGodandCountry

…..props in Silicon Valley, too.

ForGodandCountry

*progs

ozzytrumpster
ozzytrumpster
Deplorable Patriot

Here you go. This is the non-mobile version.

ozzytrumpster

Thomas Wictor @ThomasWic
“Honey, let’s not go out to eat with Carlos anymore, okay?”
“Yeah, I think you’re probably right. Let’s not.”

ozzytrumpster

ozzytrumpster

DROP @watch4thedrop
Every single Democrat proposal is a direct insult to your intelligence.
Single payer? because you are too stupid to buy your own health insurance
UBI? because you are too dumb to make at least $1000 per month
Federal school lunch program? because you are too much of a rube to know how to feed your own kids
Transgender bathrooms? because you are too incompetent to know which bathroom to use
Gun confiscation? daddy and mommy has to take away your toys so you don’t do bad things with them.

kinthenorthwest

Check this out == our world is crazy crazy
Always removing female symbol from packaging in efforts to be more inclusive
https://keprtv.com/news/nation-world/always-removing-female-symbol-from-packaging-in-efforts-to-be-more-inclusive?fbclid=IwAR0JJeLMkju0MCOclzspZ8xJRbQ9xop1OWeP9Yr7-evWDKYyQjoY4a6JZtE

Deplorable Patriot

Sorry, guys who think you are gals, these are just not needed for you. ARGH!

kinthenorthwest

I am getting to the point of even thinking about the left being able to be savaged

ForGodandCountry

Holy oldies, Batman!
Seven brides for seven brothers???
I haven’t seen that one in decades.

Deplorable Patriot

I wore out VHS tapes, have it on DVD, know every chord by heart….

Deplorable Patriot

And Batman is now on at 5 am on Saturday here.

ozzytrumpster

Once is happenstance, twice coincidence…….

nikkichico7

In the comments section this was posted .. bwahahahahaha ..

Avatar
♔WeedLordBonerHitler™ Democrat Puppet
19 hours ago
MABA
Make
Alexandria
Bartend
Again
LOL

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Anniversary of the Marine Corps Barracks in Beirut being bombed. Hundreds dead.
Another event in the war we refuse to acknowledge.

Deplorable Patriot

Today? Really?

ForGodandCountry

Eagles really are amazing birds of prey, aren’t they? 😎comment image

ozzytrumpster

I like that ones claws

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, they are.

pgroup

What’s the next best thing to DJT? Hint – we’ve got a lot of it right now.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/america-pile-uneaten-bacon-biggest-220335498.html

ozzytrumpster

GOP Senator drops a bombshell – Foster kids are being sold into sex slavery. 550 went missing last year in Arizona, and he claims another lawmaker threatened him if he continued his investigation.

GA/FL

Name of GOP senator, Ozzy?

Aubergine
GA/FL

Thanks, Aubergine!

Teagan

Amazing Polly had quite a lengthy report about him and the female Arizona Senator that threatened him…he reported it to the police. She, evidently, has her own shady background in child protection agencies. Sorry, I would be guessing about the names.
Polly talks about the 2 state Senators (other states) doing child trafficking investigations that were murdered.

GA/FL

May it all come to light and be punished to the greatest possible extent of the law….

Gudthots

Amen.

ozzytrumpster
ozzytrumpster

Ukrainian government ready to cooperate with FBI on investigation into DNC and previous Ukrainian government laundering hundreds of millions of IMF aid money and attempts by DNC to cover it up.

ozzytrumpster

AOC’s campaign paid $200K to firm established by Justice Democrat’s cofounder. They got her the office, and she is kicking money back to them.

Gudthots

If it’s like most other viruses, the immune compromised are the ones to succumb.
We don’t know of any immune compromised group that enjoys sex with camels do we?
Notice that this story is used to add fuel to the scaremongering about a world wide pandemic… which of course motivates the “k” types to surrender more control to the overlords … that are also hiring scientists to play in labs with the virus in question at the moment.

“The system keeps a continuous eye on it but it is not seen as a ­imminent threat to humanity. It has a high mortality rate if you get it but it is quite hard to get.
“Camels are the most likely host for the virus and there is a theory that the virus has been prevalent in the Middle East for many years.
“It is a poorly understood virus. Any work will be to try to understand what the virus is, how it operates and how we might intervene and what drugs might be effective.” Emergency planners have warned a global flu pandemic could hit the planet at any time, ­leading to millions of deaths in a similar way to the Spanish flu outbreak at the end of the First World War.
Government records have shown scientists at the Ministry of Defence’s Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) in Porton Down, Salisbury, have exposed monkeys to the camel flu virus.

ozzytrumpster

So if you’re not fucking camels or camel fuckers you’re not fucked

Gudthots

Well, I don’t actually know that.
I was just pondering a few data points. 🙂

ozzytrumpster

Contrast
File under interesting : Hong Kong apologizes for using a water cannon outside a Mosque. Since when do authoritarian Chinese leaders cow-tow to Muslims for political correctness? Has Cabal taken over and begun to force Chinese patriots to subvert their own nationalistic tendencies? Does it portend the Chinese government beginning to import Muslims, give them special privileges, and prime them to fight Chinese nationalists, to avoid a real rebellion where the people focus on overthrowing (((Them)))? Might they have just decided to employ the strategy of degeneracy and imported migrant hordes on Hong Kong, so as to weaken it?
In contrast: The People’s Republic of China destroyed a church that reportedly could seat 3,000 people and detained its pastors, according to a human rights organization.

GA/FL

Sperry’s got H> number….

wheatietoo

wheatietoo

Sounds like John Ratcliff was a pitbull yesterday.

GA/FL

Here’s one way to quickly weed out the Øbama/Clinton moles out of the DOJ and other branches of government:
https://twitter.com/love4thegameAK/status/1186832586888249345
DNC are the party of deviants and predators.

Dora

And the party of death.

Cuppa Covfefe

Deathmocrats…

Gudthots

Alternatively, he was just “doing research.”

Dora

This is how the left keeps everyone in line. If you don’t go along with their talking points, you’re fired!
=====
Polar Bear Studies Professor is the Latest Victim of “Cancel Culture”
The University of Victoria dumps Dr. Susan Crockford, who discovered that polar bear populations thriving beyond the “co-existence threshold.”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/10/polar-bear-studies-professor-is-the-latest-victim-of-cancel-culture/

wheatietoo

She was fired because she dared to Tell The Truth.
Which didn’t support the false narrative of the climate hoaxers.

Gudthots

I’d like to CANCEL CULTURE the entire administration of EVERY college and university in North America. And then let them play hunger games to see if they merit getting a job in the new culture of LIFE, LIBERTY and the American Way.

wheatietoo

https://twitter.com/StumpforTrump/status/1186710016084107264?s=20
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It’s good that you’re speaking up and defending our President, Lindsey…
Now get to work and DO Something about it!

Aubergine

I am fairly convinced that Graham is part of the show.
I remember that Sean Hannity is close to President Trump, and he is the one who had Graham on to talk about it:

Of course, OT, SD is mocking Graham for his actions. But Graham played golf with Trump a week or two ago. What did they talk about, or plan? Is the plan not to shut down the inquiry, but to keep it in the public eye, and hammer home its illegitimacy?
In the above video, Graham says the faux “impeachment” should be dismissed in the Senate without a trial, because the House inquiry is illegitimate. President Trump certainly knows many of his supporters don’t trust Graham. Does the President WANT a trial in the Senate? Is he giving us a messenger we don’t trust so WE want it? Reverse psychology?
I am withholding judgement on Graham. There are too many variables. Sun Tzu is at play here.

kinthenorthwest

Don’t trust Graham and probably never will..
He went to far to the extreme in 2016 for me.

wheatietoo

Oh…boo hoo.
🙄
I say, good for the Georgia Sheriff for doing this!

gil00

Lost those rights when they committed crimes against siciety that can never be made right, unless theyre dead.

ladypenquin

andyocoregon

He’s daring them to take a vote on impeachment in The House. He strongly suspects, and for good reason, the cowardly Dems don’t have enough votes to impeach. The purple states scare Dem Reps.

Dora

Oh no! DJT completely revived Wollman Rink.

andyocoregon

It’s only obvious who did this. De Blasio strikes again.
Maybe it should be shut down until the Trump name is returned to it.

patfrederick

Mom helps child with Cerebral Palsy skateboard…makes you smile…comment imagev

kalbokalbs

Big smile.
They are having loads of fun 😉

patfrederick

i love the ingenuity involved!
I’d do anything for my kids too…

nikkichico7

… 🤨👍❤️‼️‼️‼️ … Absolutely AWESOME 😎🤚❤️‼️😍🤗

patfrederick

hubby loves classic cars–and i do too–but imagine if some bozo reporter jumped up on YOUR classic car–or dinged it–all while FILMING it and saying no one’s looking! WHAT AN IDIOT!!!! no respect for someone else’s property!!
https://iotwreport.com/moron-cbs-reporter-scratches-up-classic-cars-during-rude-and-idiotic-segment/

nikkichico7

… this is from a link in the article 😂🤚 …

Bwahahahahaha … I want one yes/no 😳
Love it pat .. 😜👍❤️‼️

patfrederick

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!!!

nikkichico7

…. 😃👍❤️ … bwahahahahaha

andyocoregon

I trust the local CBS station was made to pony up 1st class repairs of those cars.
And if I ever caught someone atop my car, he’d find himself in an ambulance shortly thereafter.

Dora

The NYT actually published this crap!

Deplorable Patriot

What’s worse is the number of people who fall for it.

Gudthots

This reeks of desperation.
And 4am talking points.

patfrederick

trying to access Citizen Free Press this morning…getting a 403 forbidden message? wth?

wheatietoo

Just checked it…and yep, looks like it’s down.

patfrederick

thanks…thought i did something illegal…LOL…getting ready to circle the wagons and release the flying monkeys…

Gudthots

A new news aggregator (FWIW) is sourced from Dissenter at
https://trends.gab.com/

Cuppa Covfefe

Try releasing a bunch of Trunk Monkeys 🙂

patfrederick

LOL

wheatietoo
patfrederick

it’s the DMV–it’s not like they’re open 24 hrs a day so you limit the number of hours you “can” work a week, you expect to get favored treatment??
FTA
A Muslim employee of the New York State Department of Motor Vehicles has filed a discrimination complaint alleging his requests for special scheduling to accommodate prayer and Ramadan observances were rejected.
The man, identified in the affidavit as a 40-year-old Bengali-American, claims his original request for religious accommodation was honored, but upon filing for an extension with new criteria, as well as additional exceptions for Ramadan, he was denied.
“Since May 4, 2019, I have been forced to choose between my religion and my ability to earn a living,” the man says. “Because I am observing my faith at work, my job is at risk.”
In his complaint, the part-time employee says he was initially granted a three-month period during which he was allowed to use his lunch break to leave for Friday prayers and then return to work.
When it came time to re-apply for the religious accommodation, the Islamic calendar then called for prayer hours that fell outside of his normal lunch break.
The second accommodation request, which included a change in the hours of his Friday lunch break, was reportedly denied.
“We cannot [accommodate] your request to leave during the day on Friday’s for your religious observance,” a DMV representative allegedly wrote. “An essential function of your position is to work certain hours. Altering your schedule poses an undue hardship on the operational needs of the office.”
Additionally, the man requested a specific, constricted schedule for the month of Ramadan (11:30am to 3:15pm), which was also reportedly denied.
“I believe I am being punished and retaliated against because I am observing my religious practice of attending congregational prayer,” he says.
“I believe the foregoing actions were and are based on improper discrimination on the basis of my religion and/or national origin. These actions have caused and will cause great damage to me, including, but not limited to lost compensation and benefits, damaged to my career and reputation; and substantial emotional distress.”
The man says that since May, he has “forced to leave the workplace every Friday at 1:30pm to attend congregational prayers,” but is prohibited from clocking back in.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which is representing the man, announced the filing of the complaint on Monday.
https://www.newswars.com/muslim-employee-files-discrimination-complaint-against-dmv-over-prayer-schedule-dispute/

wheatietoo

Argh…CAIR just keeps pushing and pushing, using lawfare to impose their will.
Other religions get no special treatment.
This muzzie guy is NOT being ‘discriminated’ against!
😠

patfrederick

agreed.
the story even notes “requests for SPECIAL scheduling”…
if you need a job with more flexible hours that’s YOUR responsibility to find it…not the other way round…

wheatietoo

Yep, exactly.
Btw…CitizenFreePress is back up.

patfrederick

THANKS!

Deplorable Patriot

Dude, you’re in America. If this is a problem for you, find another job. I used to have to take vacation days at the Triduum to be able to sing the entire thing. And one time, I had to go to a work event between Chrism and Mass of the Lord’s Supper.
And another time, my request for a comp day on St. Patrick’s Day was granted and then recinded because the powers that be decided to use the day for recruiting.
No sympathy for religious exemption on that here. None.

Concerned Virginian

Observe:
“National origin” is included as a “basis” for the complaint. Translation: Muslims are starting to use the countries they immigrate from to the United States as an additional basis for a discrimination complaint.
CAIR unspoken goals of the complaint:
To force all businesses, government or private, to accommodate Muslim daily prayers. This means all five mandated times of prayer. CAIR does not care if this imposition would mean that the business entities involved would have to create entirely new hours of operation, work schedules, etc., for Muslims.
To gradually obliterate the “separation of Church and state” argument in the U.S. and replace it with Sharia Law.
To eventually force all businesses that employ female Muslims to create workspaces, lunch/break rooms, and prayer spaces that are separate from those for their male Muslim employees.

patfrederick

national origin had nothing to do with it tho. they accommodated him when he could reasonably take his breaks at his lunch time. it’s when that became NOT ENOUGH and he needed more and more special treatment that it became an issue. as it would be for anyone–they cannot claim the employer did not try.

Concerned Virginian

Agreed, CAIR is throwing in “national origin” as an additional tool to force the issue.
Also points up the obvious unspoken mindset of Islam that ANY type of accommodation for Muslims is not enough as long as complete subjection to Allah by the kuffar is not secured.

Cuppa Covfefe

Camel’s a$$ nose in the tent, or as they say, give them an inch, and they’ll take a mile…
IIRC, their “holy books” say they can reschedule their “prayers” if they can’t do them at the appointed time, so CAIR is just blowing recycled smoke from their unhappy hookahs…

patfrederick

and given that they can lie to us with impunity…

TheseTruths

Assimilate:
to bring into conformity with the customs, attitudes, etc., of a group, nation, or the like; adapt or adjust:
to assimilate the new immigrants.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/assimilate?s=t
Sounds harsh, but you don’t belong in a place if you can’t assimilate.

andyocoregon

Ironic, isn’t it, for a New York moslem to demand special treatment in the city where less than 20 years ago several of his cohorts brought down the Twin Towers killing thousands of innocent people.

patfrederick

never forget has turned into constant cave

wheatietoo

This is a strange video.
https://twitter.com/engyn243/status/1186805088209309697?s=20
.
It didn’t say When this was filmed…but I found this in the replies:
https://twitter.com/RobinHood0010/status/1186819232694071296?s=20

patfrederick

hear that? another shoe dropping….

Dora

I found this among the replies. This is former Ukraine President Poroshenko awarding McCain and Graham with the Orders of Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/Pismo_B/status/1186885868750962688

kalbokalbs

Wondering how much money Ukraine sent McStain Foundation.
Paging holier than thou Cindy McStain and cheeseburger Meagain McStain…

Aubergine

This may well be the leverage Trump Tzu is employing with Graham.

thetinfoilhatsociety

Oh look, NoName is there too! Nothing to see here, move along, move along….

Dora
TheseTruths

Gorgeous! Thank you.

wheatietoo

Flashback…Biden using the word “lynching”.
https://twitter.com/TrumpsGAGirl/status/1186832603317489665?s=20

GA/FL

Oh……

patfrederick

creepy!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

Reverse first and last, and you get D O P E…
Inquiring minds want to know… 😉

Dora

duchess01

Verse of the Day

“Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the LORD thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.”
Joshua 1:9 (KJV)

duchess01

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duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

duchess01

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duchess01

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patfrederick

Morning! have time for coffee today?

duchess01

Oh, yes please – I could use a fresh cup – Thanks, pat! God Bless You!!!
Have a Blessed Day!!!

patfrederick

and God Bless you as well Sweetie!!

duchess01

Thanks, pat! Hope and pray all is well with you, too!

patfrederick

the sun is coming out…I’m fine thanks!

duchess01

Wonderful! We could use some sun to dry the overly wet ground – not complaining mind you – we needed the rain – we need some sunshine, too! So – Please spread some sunshine wherever you go – Mkay?
Have a Happy, Sunny Day!

patfrederick

i will do my best!

duchess01

Am sure you will, pat! God has blessed you with the ‘right’ spirit – 🙂

patfrederick

😀

andyocoregon

Oh look! There’s Jesus!
Hi Jesus!

Cuppa Covfefe

Would do you well to get to know HIM better.
The picture of the astronaut is an ennobling reminder of that and WHOM to which we aspire, for we are NOTHING without HIM… as it says in the poem High Flight (your pic made me think of this too, Duchess):
High Flight
by
John Gillespie Magee, Jr.
Oh! I have slipped the surly bonds of Earth
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I’ve climbed, and joined the tumbling mirth
Of sun-split clouds, — and done a hundred things
You have not dreamed of — wheeled and soared and swung
High in the sunlit silence. Hov’ring there,
I’ve chased the shouting wind along, and flung
My eager craft through footless halls of air . . .
Up, up the long, delirious burning blue
I’ve topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace
Where never lark, or ever eagle flew —
And, while with silent, lifting mind I’ve trod
The high untrespassed sanctity of space,
Put out my hand, and touched the face of God.

Cuppa Covfefe

That’s beautiful, Duchess. It reminds me of Psalm 139:
139 O lord, thou hast searched me, and known me.
2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O Lord, thou knowest it altogether.
5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.
7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.
19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

duchess01

One of my favorite Psalms, Cuppa! Thanks for posting – God Bless You Real Good!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

GOD Bless you too, Duchess. Your daily devotions are a ray of sunshine in an often depressing morass of political doldrums (and sometimes childish remarks).
I read that Psalm and think of verse 14, which corrects and reproves all the baby-killers:

will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

and then verses 7-10

7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.

No matter where we are, where we go, or where we fall, GOD is already there, and knows our trials, tribulations, and Salvation. And, yes, sometimes HE takes us to the woodshed and gives us a whippin’ when we’re too stubborn or proud to listen. Yet like (and being) a perfect Dad, he doesn’t humiliate or ruin us, or have Schadenfreude over correcting us, indeed, HE does it out of LOVE. The book of Job is a good example.
I think also of two Hymns sung so well by Tennessee Ernie Ford, the first “Did You Think To Pray” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsY_CjhYQ9E and “What A Friend We Have In Jesus”, here with Odetta. It’s worth noting that Ernie was equally happy singing countermelodies, accompaniment, or harmony, letting others lead. Would that we had more singers like him nowadays…

duchess01

Oh, what a beautiful tribute, Cuppa – I love it when people take the verse of the day – and expand on it – I also love when people share verses that touch their hearts, too –
Thank you for posting, Cuppa – I see God has blessed you already – and that makes my heart happy! 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Here’s the whole hymn (just saw the version with Odetta was not complete)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BtYlrWDVoA

duchess01

How sweet of you to post it, Cuppa – Thanks!

Cuppa Covfefe

Also, here is the story behind that hymn, and a testament to relying on GOD when misfortune or unfulfilled wishes strike; as opposed to sinking in them. The series 101 Hymn Stores, 101 More Hymn Stories, and the associated Yearly Devotional by Kenneth W. Osbeck are wonderful, both in learning the hymns and the stories behind them, and learning that we are never alone, nor forsaken, nor forgotten.

duchess01

That’s wonderful to know, Cuppa – Thanks for all of this great info – God wants us to share – and this is just another way to share – a marvelous way – your wife is a blessed lady!

patfrederick

okay…some SJW decides to carve a pumpkin celebrating female health or some such nonsense—but the replies to her tweet photo are funny! (it’s supposed to represent the female reproductive system) well many are likening it to the Ram truck logo…and so on…LOL

wheatietoo

That’s just gross.
So…would it be okay if a guy carved a pumpkin with a dick & balls…to ‘advocate for men’s health’?
🤪😏

patfrederick

actually….if you scroll down…someone carved one “for a prostate exam”…quite convincingly…lol

wheatietoo

I’ll take your word for it, thanks.
😜😄

patfrederick

it’s rather refreshing to see the other side…people needling the SJW for the stuff they proudly post…tired of us taking it on the chin all the time!
(and guys will be guys…lol)

wheatietoo

Yes, absolutely.

Cuppa Covfefe

A funny thing, the EU has for the longest time been, erm, “retentive” about the curvature of bananas, cucumbers, and the shape, form, and appearance of truits and vegetables over here (as if there weren’t any more important things with which to concern themselves).
Then, along come the greens, lamenting the fact that so many veggies, etc., go to waste (more on that later). SOOOO, all sorts of misshapen, misbegotten, maligned veggies are not only sold in stores, but adored for their unique forms. Some, erm, VERY unique, if ya get my drift. What the “watermelons” didn’t realize is, farmers used to get these veggies back (or could keep them, as it were) at reduced prices (or free) to feed their animals, or sell to animal producers. Result: the price of meat goes up, and the suddenly trendy veggies are also more expensive. Again, THEY HAVE NO CLUE, just like AOC et. al.
But veggies from Mars have always, somehow, been available. Charlie Brown always lamented his lunch, sometimes to the point that he’d put the bag over his head when “the little red-headed girl” walked by.
On the other hand, I wanted to hide in or underneath my lunchbucket, for my Mum would endeavour to purchase the most misshapen, hideous, misbegotten, unveggie, unbelievable painful produce that existed, in order to wind me up (shame me, punish me, embarrass me, humiliate me, it all seemed the same at the time 🙂 ). Almost as bad as when she mixed up my Dad’s lunch with mine. I had a bit of a time explaining to the nuns what a pack of cigarettes was doing in my lunch. My Dad, on the other hand, was left struggling to light a Twinkie 🙂 🙂 (Ahh, miss ya Mum, GOD Bless)…

patfrederick

in their struggle to be “trendy”, younger people have sacrificed their individuality and they don’t even realize it. my daughter’s friends and teachers that did not dress for the hayride/Halloween party (or thought they didn’t) all wore the same outfit –for the women at least. jeans tucked into boots, tops with puffy vest–think Hans Solo.

gil00

That is gross. I wouldnt take my kid there to trick or treat.

Deplorable Patriot

In my neighborhood, the squirrels would provide the hysterectomy pretty efficiently.

patfrederick

LOL

andyocoregon

That’s a pumpkin that’s just begging to be smashed.

Gudthots

Really?
Is smashing things and people your go to solution for anything you don’t like?

patfrederick
wheatietoo

Yep, Dora posted that clip too, upthread a bit.
Both Lindsey and NoName are acting kinda nervous and squirrelly there, weren’t they.
Hmm…

patfrederick

oh my bad…thought that one was just them “talking to the troops”…here they are receiving an award from Poroschenko i thought…MOAR coffee!!

Brave and Free

Thanks Duchess01,
I have been going through a rough time lately and that verse really helped.

GA/FL

Wow – the disease contagion was airborne…. just breathing the air near the hot tubs.

Deplorable Patriot

Crap. Now Legionnaires is immune to pool chemicals and heat?

GA/FL

Probably a dirty malfunctioning, poorly maintained motor/mechanism. That’s how AC units make people sick.

Deplorable Patriot

IDK…depends on the strength of the anti-bacterial in there. Chlorine will usually kill just about anything.

GA/FL

Obviously some part of the hot tub was putting out a toxic mist.

GA/FL

They didn’t get into the pools, they just stopped by the exhibit and looked at them.

Cuppa Covfefe

Here’s a fact sheet from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/swimming/resources/legionella-factsheet.pdf
Over here, water heaters now have to heat the water up to 60°C (140°F) at least once per week to kill off legionella. Ours is set just a bit higher, but the recommendation is for families with young children to set their water heaters much cooler (e.g. 50 or even 40 degrees (104F) which isn’t really that hot at all.
As the CDC ref says, chlorine does kill legionella, but it has to be in high enough concentration, as it can spread via airborne droplets, i.e. mist.
Again, we probably are seeing yet another case of the greens versus reality. To save energy (and the sacred CO²), we need to heat water, etc., as little as possible. Yet, good sanitary practices require MUCH hotter temperatures (e.g. 70°C in dishwashers, boiling hot water for disinfection or bottle washing, etc.); the same is true for food preparation surfaces. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that the “Mad Cow” problems in the UK were due to poor sanitation, lower temperatures, and lack of agents such as chlorine for disinfection. As a side note, Moslems DO NOT use alcohol-based products for disinfection, yet those
in particular 100% alcohol, are among the best, if not the best disinfectants.
PC overrides common sense and preservation of one’s own society yet again…
Another rant: with all the LED lightbulbs, and banned incandescents, we’re basically living in the dark over here. Even the low-wattage LEDs only go up to the equivalent of 60w, which is just this side of useless.
Too bad for them I did a “hamsterkauf” of CASES of 100w, 75w, 60w, and a number of globe-shaped bulbs in various wattages I run on dimmers to save “juice” when I can…

Deplorable Patriot

I stockpiled light bulbs. Although, over here we can get incandescents in places like Home Depot at off wattages that are used in work lights.
As for hot water, our heater is turned all the way up. 165F, I’m pretty sure. When the water main breaks (3x in the last 2 years) it starts to boil.
Anyway, I’ve been around pools my whole life. Chlorine done right will kill just about anything.

Cuppa Covfefe

Ahhh. Another “pack-rat” 🙂 Probably a trait of musicians and/or engineers…
We also have the non-standard wattages, like the “industrial duty” light bulbs that are really higher voltage lamps running at lower voltages (for the US it would be 130v versus 115v, here it’s as much as 277v versus 240v). Bulbs last forever, but are a tad inefficient (inverse squares law hidden in there somewhere). Oddly enough, I did my “hamsterkauf” at Hornbach, a store which appears to be a German carbon-copy of Home Depot, all the way to the floor-to-ceiling racks. We don’t have “Homer”, though 🙂
What’s REALLY maddening is that 100w of bulb over here gets only 70% or so of the 100w (at 115v) y’all get over there. It’s an artifact of the thickness of the filament in order to get enough resistance at 115v. So, enjoy your 1700 lumens, while we’re suffering at 1400 or so 😀 I’m almost at the point of getting a trafo and running 115v to some US bulbs I have out in the garage (don’t ask….).
I hope and pray that the green madness ends soon; before it ends us… we do have tractor demos now, so there’s hope!

patfrederick

The elderly French man went to his parish priest in France and asked if the priest would hear his confession.
“Of course, my son,” said the priest.
“Well, Father, at the beginning of World War Two, a beautiful Jewish woman knocked on my door and asked me to hide her from the Germans; I hid her in my attic, and they never found her.”
“That’s a wonderful thing, my son, and nothing that you need to confess,” said the priest.
“That’s not my sin, Father; I was weak, and told her that she had to pay for rent of the attic with her sexual favors,” continued the old man.
“Well, it was a very difficult time, and you took a large risk -you would have suffered terribly at their hands if the Germans had found you hiding her; I know that God, in his wisdom and mercy, will balance the good and the evil, and judge you kindly,” said the priest.
“Thanks, Father,” said the old man. “That’s a load off of my mind. Can I ask another question?”
“Of course, my son,” said the priest.
The old man asked, “Do I need to tell her that the war is over?”.

patfrederick

Bill Clinton is visiting a school. In one class, he asks the students if anyone can give him an example of a “tragedy”. One little boy stands up and said “If my best friend who lives next door was playing in the street when a car came along and killed him, that would be tragedy.”
“No”, Clinton says, “That would be an ACCIDENT.”
A girl raises her hand. “If a school bus carrying fifty children drove off a cliff, killing everyone involved….that would be a tragedy.”
“I’m afraid not,” explains Clinton. “That is what we would call a GREAT LOSS to mankind.”
“Isn’t there anybody here who can tell me what a tragedy?”
Then little Billy in the back raises his hand and says: “If Hillary and you were on Air Force One and the plane was blown up by a bomb, that would be a tragedy.”
“You’re absolutely right” Clinton beams. ” How how did you come to that conclusion?”
Well,” says the boy, “the plane being blown up by a bomb wouldn’t be an accident and losing the two of you would not be any great loss to mankind”

patfrederick

The teacher gave her fifth grade class an assignment: get their parents to tell them a story with a moral at the end of it. The next day the kids came back and one by one began to tell their stories.
Kathy said, “My father’s a farmer and we have a lot of egg-laying hens. One time we were taking our eggs to market in a basket on the front seat of the pickup when we hit a bump in the road and all the eggs went flying and broke and made a mess.”
“And what’s the moral of the story?” asked the teacher.
“Don’t put all your eggs in one basket!”
“Very good,” said the teacher. “Now, Lucy?”
“Our family are farmers too. But we raise chickens for the meat market. We had a dozen eggs one time, but when they hatched we only got ten live chicks. And the moral to this story is, don’t count your chickens until they’re hatched.”
“That was a fine story Lucy. Johnny do you have a story to share?”
“Yes, ma’am, my daddy told me this story about my Uncle Bob. Uncle Bob was a pilot in Vietnam and his plane got hit. He had to bail out over enemy territory and all he had was a bottle of whiskey, a machine gun and a machete.
He drank the whiskey on the way down so he wouldn’t break the bottle when he hit the ground.
When he landed right in the middle of 100 enemy troops, he killed seventy of them with the machine gun until he ran out of bullets, then he killed twenty more with the machete till the blade broke and then he killed the last ten with his bare hands.”
“Good heavens,” said the horrified teacher, “What kind of moral did you learn from that horrible story?”
“Don’t F–K with Uncle Bob when he’s been drinking.”

nikkichico7

.. bwahahahahaha … 🥃👍 … bwahahahahaha

Alison

😂😂😂😂😂. Chuckled at each one, Pat. I love the humor you bring us 💞

patfrederick

patfrederick

patfrederick

Dora

This painting now hangs in the National Gallery of Art. I saw it there at least twice and it is absolutely beautiful.
And no one today even knows who those nasty critics were. So there!

patfrederick

unkempt? because her hair is flowing free and natural? gees…it is lovely.

Cuppa Covfefe

The Girl With The Flaxen Hair (
Here it is played by Debussy himself, thanks to the technology of piano rolls (player pianos). There are many brilliant YouTubes out there, some with great galleries of pictures going by, others with wonderful musicianship (Claudio Arrau and Christopher Parkening among them, along with a cello quintet), but this is special… (Arrau is at:

,
Parkening at

,
the cello quintet (SAKURA cello quintet) at

,
and Krystian Zimerman at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEdSdtztfLQ ).
And, here’s Debussy, thanks to the wonder of the piano roll recording, from 1913:

Deplorable Patriot

TBH, this was the very beginning of the impressionist movement that took a while to evolve in the US. I don’t know that “unfinished” is the word I would use. Women’s portraits at the time were much more elegant, in a way. In the arts, the critics are very influenced by what they already know. if it didn’t strike their fancy, it just didn’t.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hanslick versus Beethoven was an epic battle. Beethoven’s Concerto in D for the violin, which I heard Yehudi Menhuin describe as “the perfect concerto”, was referred to by Hanslick as “a concerto against the violin”.
Today’s presstitutes have nothing, on their forebears. Looking at old political cartoons (e.g. about Lincoln, or Teddy Roosevelt, etc.) is occasionally shocking. The main difference being, back then, the critics and the cartoonists really had talent.
P.S. Garrison, Branco, and a number of others are also very, VERY talented…

Deplorable Patriot

Just one comment on Beethoven…he HATED sopranos. To him, singers were a key on a piano. In the Missa Solemnis, the grave is on a high B-flat. Grave. Not just a staccato eighth note. No, SIX BEATS.
And it was 100 degrees on the stage that weekend.
Ah, the memories. 😎

Cuppa Covfefe

Maybe he had a funeral mass in mind 🙂
I have similar thoughts about Boccherini and his B♭ Cello Concerto (long (original) and short versions). The second movement for the soloist is rife with very long whole and double whole notes, which must be held without wavering in pitch, volume, or timbre. Not to mention phones or beepers going off in the background. The held notes are often more difficult, musically, than quickly articulated passages, which might seem non-intuitive to non-musicians.
Then again, I feel most sorry for harpists who end up playing near an open stage door, brass players (especially in marching bands – BTDT) in freezing weather and frozen mouthpieces, and pianists who have to put up with someone else’s instrument (because they can’t travel with their own, like Horowitz, etc.). One of my cousins bought a piano, threw a party, and said, hey, here’s my cuz, studying to be a concert musician… the piano sounded as if it had been rolled through the Ohio river after having survived the civil war. If it had been nearer to Atlanta, someone should have burned it… It was out of tune with ITSELF (triple strings were each tuned differently!)…
100 degrees. Yikes. High B♭ in that temp, for that long, yikes²….
Back in the stone ages (HS) we had a band review in Ukiah (CA) where it was 110 degrees. The band boosters (aka parents 🙂 ) were stationed at the ends of each row, so that if a musician started to fall, they could pick them up before they hit the pavement… Standing at attention in front of the reviewing stand was more hazardous than usual that day… Locking one’s knees doen’t help either (happens a lot to inexperienced choristers, too)…
I think Beethoven was just stubborn. He put what he wanted in the score, and that was that. Then again, the Hammerklavier shows that he sometimes hated pianists, too 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Pianos take 10-14 days to settle. THEN you tune them. It’s a wonder your cousin’s instrument had any halfway decent sound at all.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep, I know. Then again, NOTHING would help that piano. And fortunately we ended up joking about it, as there was nothing that could be done.
It’s amazing how many people don’t maintain their instruments (though admittedly it’s not cheap). The other extreme are the folks with tons of money who plonk a plant on their 9 foot full concert grand, and then forget about it, except as decoration. I could scream…. On one of the piano comparo YouTubes (Bösendorfer vs. German Steinway vs. Yamaha) someone wanted a “Boss”, but said he had to make the choice between the 290 and a house. He said the 290 was almost big enough to live in, but his family didn’t agree 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep, Then again, NOTHING would help that piano. And fortunately we ended up joking about it, as there was nothing that could be done.
It’s amazing how many people don’t maintain their instruments (though admittedly it’s not cheap). The other extreme are the folks with tons of money who plonk a plant on their 9 foot full concert grand, and then forget about it, except as decoration. I could scream…. On one of the piano comparo YouTubes (Bösendorfer vs. German Steinway vs. Yamaha) someone wanted a “Boss”, but said he had to make the choice between the 290 and a house. He said the 290 was almost big enough to live in, but his family didn’t agree 🙂

patfrederick

wow lots of hearsay going on…
FTA
Taylor’s account of Sondland’s conversation with Yermak is technically hearsay — the conversation, he said was described to him by Tim Morrison, the White House National Security Council’s senior director for Russian and Eurasian affairs.
snip
Morrison’s report of Sondland’s conversation spurred Taylor to protest the idea in the text message to the EU envoy and Kurt Volker, the State Department’s lead negotiator for the war in Ukraine. Sondland replied by instructing Taylor to call him.
“During that phone call, Ambassador Sondland told me that President Trump had told him that he wants President Zelensky to state publicly that Ukraine will investigate Burisma and alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. election,” Taylor said. “[Sondland] said that President Trump wanted President Zelensky ’in a public box’ by making a public statement about ordering such investigations.”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/pay-up-before-signing-the-check-ukraine-knew-they-faced-a-quid-pro-quo-ambassador-testifies

Dora

Bergollio lies like a democrat!

Deplorable Patriot

The faithful are not being shy about calling him out on this one, that’s for sure.

Dora

Oops – Bergoglio

Deplorable Patriot
Deplorable Patriot

I think the volcanic Voris might be right.

Cuppa Covfefe

Ouch. That sounds suspiciously like Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis. Create cognitive dissonance in order to bring in a “third way”, a new way, a new age.
Francis the talking fool is poison… and if he’s revamping the College of Cardinals to get a bunch of “yes men” in there… oh je…

Deplorable Patriot

No $#!—-.

Deplorable Patriot

The article presented here is good.
https://twitter.com/JZmirak/status/1187028507576197123

patfrederick

i read somewhere this morning (apologies I forget where)there’s only 19 more legislative days in Congress’s calendar before year end? what the hell? they never work!

Deplorable Patriot

Ozzy posted this in the night, and I’m afraid it got buried. IMO, this is a MUST READ thread for timeline and data point purposes. MUST READ.

wheatietoo

ladypenquin

A Fortiori

LP — The hypothesis of the article is that there exists a great political divide in the US regarding PDJT. I read Hume’s comment merely as a prediction the divide will get worse.
The (NeverTrumper) Fred Barnes quote is annoying, but I don’t read what Hume said about it to be offensive.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Maybe, maybe not. But Hume is a Never-Trumper and needs an a$$ whooping in general. Go LP!!!

patfrederick

I got several unopened cans of Whoopass!!
should I pass them around and we go on a road trip?comment image

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

I love Roadtrips!!! 😍😍 🦋🦋🤸‍♂️🤸‍♂️🦋🦋

patfrederick

COOL!!

ladypenquin

Thanks, 🦋 You’re right. i didn’t even click on the article, but by seeing Hume’s response, it reinforces, for me, the way he sticks a shive in POTUS whenever he can. Instead of making a comment about how it’s the Dems doing this “divide” he brings attention to a Never Trumper’s article which of course, reinforce their narrative.
Hume wants to make sure he doesn’t miss out on the cocktail party invites in DC/NY.

ladypenquin

Hume is a Never Trumper, and I was trying to point out to him how he could use his microphone for doing the right thing vs feeding the negativity. It’s because of people like Hume, the NeverTrumpers get away with trashing our President. It’s because of people like Hume that the Democrats don’t get challenged about their misdeeds.
He basically gave Never Trumper, Barnes visibility.

Dora

gil00
Deplorable Patriot

That full thread from Stu Cvrk is posted multiple times on both the open and news round-up pages today.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Irony –
Someone new followed me on the tweeter, didn’t recognize name. Went to check them. Interestingly, they follow members of both OT and Qtree. 🤔 Did more sleuthing. It turns out 2 of 4 admins OT are following “Q” people!!!! 🤭🤭🤭

patfrederick

Q is nonsense dontcha know..lol…but they would hate to be the last to know when it turns out it isn’t!
ass wipes!

wheatietoo

😄 Haaa.
I love you, Pat.
And yeah, my thoughts exactly.

patfrederick

love you right back wheatie!!

wheatietoo

Thanks for that report, Butterfly!
Heheh…it doesn’t surprise me, though.
😉😄

Coldeadhands

OT Stasi. You people OT are sick.

wheatietoo

Hey Butterfly…I noticed you’ve got several comments in the Spam bin.
It must have a thing for you.
Heheh. 😄
They are from yesterday’s Open Thread, though…so Wolf will have to release them.
Sorry.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Yes I do!! S/B 4. Figured it out yesterday evening. Happened on Open thread ONLY. Was able to post on Miss Daughn’s thread. Also happened 2 days prior. WEIRD!! Glad I can post today!!😍 🦋🤸‍♂️🦋

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

I just replied to you through the reader and it didn’t post. Bet it’s in spam. That’s what happened a few days ago. Yesterday’s 4 posts that went to spam were a combination of reader replies and direct posts. 🥴🥴🥴 Thankful I can direct post today! ☺️

Deplorable Patriot

Look and see if it’s there now.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

TY! No more reader replies from me. WP is ______!!!

wheatietoo

They both posted just fine…this time.
Heheh. 😊🤗
I hate it that it’s been happening to you, Butterfly.
No idea why some comments end up in Spam…it’s a mystery.

gil00

DP, do you think this is accurate?
“The Vatican is in need of salvation.
Donations to the Catholic Church have plummeted in the wake of its pervasive clergy sex abuse scandal — so much so that it’s at risk of default by 2023, according to a new exposé.
In 2006, the church raked in 101 million euros ($112 million) in contributions. By 2016, that number was 70 million euros ($77.9 million), and now could be less than 60 million euros, the Telegraph reported.
The startling bottom line is according to Italian investigative journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi, whose new book, “Universal Judgment,” came out Monday.
He blames the church’s financial mess on a dip in donations, as well as poor money management and bad real estate deals.
“If the pontificate of Francis fails, it won’t be because of the attacks of conservative Catholics or the crisis in vocations or because of the declining number of faithful,” Nuzzi writes in the book. “It will be because of the financial collapse that is coming ever closer.”
https://nypost.com/2019/10/22/vatican-at-risk-of-default-due-to-plummeting-donations-expose/amp/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons&__twitter_impression=true

Deplorable Patriot

If the potential is at the Vatican only, it’s possible. Why real estate deals are being made with Peter’s Pence funds needs to be answered. I expect that one to be limited next year. BUT that can’t be all of it. The payouts for sexual abuse are not at the Vatican level. They are at the diocesan level. More than one diocese has declared bankruptcy in the US, actually. The Church, financially speaking, is not a top down institution. Only in matters of faith and morals is it.
As for the money drying up, in some places it’s drying up at the major gift level, that’s for sure. A number of annual appeal campaigns fell short, and I know the capital campaign in Detroit is less than successful. Unrestricted money is simply not happening at anything higher than the parish level. People want to know where their money is going. And when a bishop says he wants to put a hot tub in the residence, that’s pretty much a deal killer for Catholics for an annual appeal.
The successful campaigns are usually at the line item level. Like, a cousin’s parish needed to augment lighting and two parishoners walked into the pastor’s office and wrote checks to get it done. My parish just finished a much needed building project to expand the school, build a parish hall room, and rework the parking situation. We also did a lot of renovations to the church building. That sort of thing IS being funded, but unrestricted cash, not so much.

gil00

Its in n out so CA likely. Course they pick the clean conservative business.
https://twitter.com/JSpiederman/status/1186906355937898498?s=20

TheseTruths

Twitter handle “We are all Pierre Delecto,” LOL 😂

gil00

He changes his handle every couple days. It is lol.

itswoot

This great lakes MODIS satellite webpage is one I often look at through out the year. it usually includes two images daily. This one was taken a few days ago and is incomplete. Quite often it will show the area from NW Ontario to central new York State.
The fall colors are very noticeable this time of year. I’ve been watching them gradually work south the last month or so. The colors in the images will soon begin disappearing, snow on the ground will turn the landscape white, lake-effect snow bands and ice floes will appear, and as winter ends the green of spring and summer will work its way back north.
The cloud patterns are the star in all of this. Its fascinating to see the changes. Like works of art. I saw one image this past summer of fog on Lake Michigan where it created a stunning pattern as the fog encountered the islands out there.
The image always starts in the NW corner of Ontario. scroll down and to the right to see the rest of the image. The west end of Lake Superior will show when scrolling down about halfway. It’s a large file. Left click to get full effect.
“The heavens declare the glory of God,,,”comment image

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋
itswoot

Help! Got one in the spam bin.

wheatietoo

I went and looked…and yep, you’ve got one in there.
But sorry, Itswoot, since this is not my thread I cannot rescue it.
DePat will have to do it…or Wolfie.

itswoot

Thanks for checking, wheatie.

Deplorable Patriot

How far back was it? Not finding it.

Deplorable Patriot

It has been liberated.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Thanks for liberating me DP!!! 😍

kinthenorthwest

Wow who does the research for the Democrats???
CNN even used the term lynching in a Tweet about Hillary in 2015
https://twitter.com/GracieLovesUSA/status/1187004025301979138?s=20

trumpismine

wheatietoo

Hah! I hope they will film it!

patfrederick

i would imagine he would NOT receive a warm welcome from many gun holders…and he donates to Romney, AND Pelosi… so the man has no scruples…
FTA
While Stack is testing as an independent candidate, he has been a major Republican donor. In 2012, he gave $100,000 to Restore Our Future, the super PAC backing Mitt Romney. He’s also given $10,000 to the Pennsylvania Republican Committee and donated to various GOP congressman, including House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
In 2016, he drew the ire of the National Republican Congressional Committee after donating $300,000 to a super PAC supporting House Democrats — a donation he said at the time was aimed to benefit his sister, Kim Myers, who was running for Congress as a Democrat in New York.
“Edward Stack is funneling hundreds of thousands of dollars into Nancy Pelosi’s Super PAC to fund his kid sister’s campaign for Congress,” the NRCC said at the time. “It’s nice to see that Stack is using the money he’s made off of his family shipping jobs out of Upstate New York overseas to China to try buying Kim Myers a seat in Congress.”
https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/23/dicks-sporting-goods-ceo-presidential-run-055565

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋
ladypenquin

wheatietoo

Um…wow, Carter looks really bad.
https://twitter.com/Bruno062418/status/1186999606938349568?s=20
.
I wonder if the DNC/Cabal is thinking they’re going to need another ‘state funeral’ soon…to distract from what’s coming?

Deplorable Patriot

Eye the spy indicated it might be Bill Clinton next, but Jimmah would do the trick if they needed a shiny red ball. The man is obviously aging at a quick clip.

patfrederick

he’s what? 95? I can’t imagine how he continues to work on building houses…

wheatietoo
trumpismine

wheatietoo

What the…
😳😠

nikkichico7

comment image
life issues
GREATER GOOD
Michael Youssef, Ph.D.
Oct 23, 2019
obeying our worthy god suffering david god’s sovereignty
Many Christians have the erroneous belief that if they just try hard enough to be good, then they can escape the trials of life. But the Bible teaches us something completely different: “The righteous person may have many troubles, . . .” (Psalm 34:19). However, we can find joy in the conclusion of this verse: “. . . but the Lord delivers him from them all.” No matter what we face in life, God will be there with us. Only God can turn our worst tragedies into victories.
King David of the Old Testament faced more life-changing trials than many of us ever will. His life was often at risk from enemies who sought to kill him. He suffered great consequences for his sins and errors in judgment. He was even betrayed by a rebellious son. Yet through his example, we see how David was able to use his suffering to bring glory to God.comment image
Read Psalm 3.
https://biblia.com/bible/esv/Ps%203
During the time David wrote this psalm, he was in hiding from his own son Absalom, who was plotting to dethrone him (see 2 Samuel 15).
https://biblia.com/bible/esv/2%20Sam%2015
David had experienced a bitter betrayal by his own son and some of his closest friends. His life was on the line. His heart was broken. He was struggling in his spirit as to why this was happening. David cried out, “Lord, how many are my foes! How many rise up against me!” (Psalm 3:1).
Have you ever been betrayed by people you loved and trusted? Sometimes the emotional and spiritual wounds made by another person can hurt far worse than any sword. One of Satan’s favorite tricks is to cause dissension in our families, relationships, and churches. When we maliciously speak against another person or stir up rebellion, we become an Absalom in the household of David.
But sometimes personal attacks can be used for a greater good. If you are experiencing a trial right now, ask God to show you how He wants you to use it. Is your trial an opportunity to share your personal testimony? What may seem like a dark valley may be the open door to share about Christ’s grace and provision in your life.
Prayer: Father, I pray that You would be glorified in the midst of my trials. Show me what You want to teach me during this time. I pray in the name of Jesus. Amen.
“I call out to the Lord, and he answers me from his holy mountain” (Psalm 3:4).

andyocoregon

Fox News is on now and they’re doing short interviews with various politicians while awaiting President Trump’s remarks on Russia, Syria and the lifting of sanctions on Turkey.
That loony liberal Ro Khanna (D-Ca) is talking and immediately began criticizing President Trump for his decision to withdraw our troops from northern Syria. Just as immediately, I hit the Mute button on the TV. I don’t need to hear that crap. I’m sick of all the Dems nit picking everything Our President says or does. They had 8 long years to do something about these problems and they did nothing.

patfrederick

short article..posted all…cost of ex presidents
FTA
Once a president’s job is finished and he leaves office, taxpayers don’t cease getting their hard-earned money taken from them in order to pay their salaries and security costs.
They actually get paid for the rest of their lives. Outside of that though, we still have to pay for a number of expenses carried by each former president of the United States.
Every former president has expenses, but the most expensive of all the living former presidents is none other than Barack Obama himself.
According to The New York Post,
Ex-President Barack Obama will be the costliest former commander-in-chief, with taxpayers shelling out $1,153,000 for his expenses in 2018, according to the Congressional Research Service.
His budget request is more than $100,000 higher than George W. Bush’s for next year and nearly $200,000 more than Bill Clinton’s expected budget.
George H.W. Bush is slated to get $942,000, while Jimmy Carter will get less than half that, at just $456,000, according to a memo prepared by the service.
With the exception of Bill Clinton, the amount has gone up with each proceeding president (no surprise there). Maybe his costs will go down a bit since he won’t be flying out to Epstein’s mansion anymore and spending money on underage girls.
The Washington Times also reports,
While most ex-presidents since Truman have found ways to make their life beyond the Oval Office financially rewarding, the taxpayer-funded perks have remained — and Mr. Obama is the latest to take them.
By far the biggest cost for ex-presidents is renting office space. Mr. Obama’s office — 8,198 square feet in D.C. — will cost taxpayers $536,000 next year, the most of any ex-president. Mr. Clinton’s New York office is bigger, at 8,300 square feet, but slightly cheaper at $518,000. The younger Mr. Bush’s office in Dallas is $497,000, while his father’s space in Houston is $286,000. Mr. Carter’s Atlanta office is just $115,000.
Why they need such a huge office space is beyond my understanding. Sure they have speaking engagements and various events to attend, but does it really justify 8,000 square feet of office space? My home isn’t a quarter of the size of that and I can’t even imagine needing the entire house plus 3 more to get my “work” done, even if I were a former president.
https://tediummedia.com/and-the-winner-for-most-expensive-ex-president-for-taxpayers-is/

andyocoregon

“George H.W. Bush is slated to get $942,000”
Hmmm, I thought he died. Why would he need money after death? After all, you can’t take it with you.

patfrederick

how the hell do all those dead people vote?

wheatietoo

More…from a few minutes ago.

ForGodandCountry

Why??
Simple.
1) Because Bill Barr, John Durham, and John Huber aren’t kidding around, and AG Barr’s speech on Christianity and freedom of religion at Notre Dame a week ago was essentially a declaration of war.
2) Given #1, democrats and their DS/globalist allies are in a panic and thoroughly desperate. Think of them as trapped and cornered rats…because that is exactly what they are.
3) There are trillions at stake, along with the lives of the rats mentioned above.
These people won’t be able to walk the streets in safety.
Q

prognosticatasaurusrex

BINGO.

Teagan

🤞🤞

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks for this – a very good tip!

Deplorable Patriot

Not much feels better than having long hair brushed by someone else, but in the nude?????????? And who takes a picture of such an intimate thing.

ForGodandCountry
Deplorable Patriot

All the way around, Katie Hill sounds like trouble.

Gudthots

Election fraud.
She never won.

TheseTruths

Must. believe. the. woman. Right? (And by that, I mean the abused woman.)
So yes, Hill should be done. But how will that come about, at the voting booth? Will Pelosi take action? Will the House draft a strong letter condemning Hill’s abuse of her aide? /sarc

gil00

Its the Reagan Museum district in simi valley. Solid red until Hillary. This is a loss from fraud and ballot harvesting. They harvested every district they could and magically they all flipped. Imagine that. Swing districts….be wary.

wheatietoo

Still awaiting Pres Trump’s remarks.
Live Feed.
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wheatietoo
Dora

wheatietoo

How about…Term Limits for bureaucrats!
10 years and you’re out.
Go out and get a job in the private sector.
We’ve got 2nd and 3rd generation govt bureaucrats now, which just adds to their ‘us versus them’ mentality.

patfrederick

but how the heck would we get that passed? they give themselves raises and vacations and no term limits–who else gets to do that??

wheatietoo

It doesn’t have to be done by legislation.
Where is it set forth in law…that govt bureaucrat jobs are lifetime positions?
Just change the Terms of Employment.

nikkichico7

That option should be given to the voters … we pay them we should have the power regarding their tenure and what they are paid, and they should have to submit expenses/records since they are employed by We The People.

ForGodandCountry

Term limits?
No.
Remove their job protections and make it easy to fire them…just like “at will” work laws. The fact that it is near impossible to fire these people is why they feel so secure and protected.
Put their job and careers at risk and a lot of this shit stops immediately.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Agreed. Absolutely agreed. This is *SCIENCE* – it is literally mathematical biology. Unless the jobs of bureaucrats are in a DYNAMIC RELATIONSHIP with a power that can selectively remove them (a predator, basically), they will overpopulate and destroy the complex calculating properties of the system.
President Trump has FINALLY confronted the source of the problem.
Bureaucrats must secure their jobs by VALUE TO WHOEVER THE PEOPLE PUTS IN CHARGE. This is brilliant founder design. The commies have RUINED IT.

ozzytrumpster

R ves k

A Fortiori

I have advocated here previously for moving massive chunks of the federal government out of DC. Happy to see Blackburn embrace this idea; I knew she would be a good Senator.

nikkichico7

… thank you DePat for today’s open thread … I like the header … makes me think they’re waiting for something .. midnight at the oasis maybe? The bulldog is awesome … just really enjoyed 🙂🤚❤️‼️🇺🇸‼️
Love the Bible reading .. ❤️

Deplorable Patriot

You’re welcome. That reminds me I need to look at next week’s, and get the week after scheduled.

nikkichico7

Cool, plan ahead … put it to bed and set the alarm .. 😉👍❤️

wheatietoo

Yes…great idea.

ForGodandCountry

And make their jobs “at will” where they can be fired easily.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES!!! The ability to fire bureaucrats is IMPERATIVE. Moving bureaucrats out of DC fixes things in some ways, but it does NOT get to the root of the problem. YOUR POINT DOES!!!
I love the idea of moving bureaucracy out of DC not only because it helps accelerate the effect we are looking for (bureaucrats serving US, not THEMSELVES), but also for RESILIENCE AND SECURITY.
Seriously, moving them out has HUGE MILITARY and DISASTER RECOVERY advantages.
If 90% of our federal bureaucracy is NOT in Washington, DC, then 90% of it survives a natural or man-made disaster in Washington, DC.
The distribution is almost a NO-BRAINER!!!
Nevertheless, it is NOT ENOUGH. It cannot fix the REAL PROBLEM. To protect against dysfunction of the system itself, no matter how it is geographically distributed, we MUST restore a proper power relationship of PROOF BY SERVICE to those who serve.

Deplorable Patriot

Interesting this would come up.
I happened to drive past an experimental plant and life sciences campus this morning, the one RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET from the old Monsanto world HQ now run by Bayer, and which is named after a Danforth….
They are putting up a pretty sizable building. It could be nothing, but given that the USDA/FDA has a revolving door with the former Monsanto for staffers and executives, and one of the senators cheerleading this effort happens to be one of the ones from this state….
I want to wait and see where this one goes. Yeah, you can get the bureaucracy spread out, but then it would be a challenge to keep an eye on all of it, especially when the deep state operatives in private industry with the same goals are right across the street.
Just sayin’ I would be cautious about jumping on this bandwagon without taking into account locations of the proximate private sector.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I hear you, but frankly, I tend to think it could be WORSE (more “Lysenko”) by keeping stuff in DC, and adding politicized science to the problems we already have with monetized science!

Deplorable Patriot

It’s all so entwined, though. And how do you keep an eye on what the government is doing at various installations now? It would be magnified, IMO.
What really needs to happen is make lobbying illegal.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I hear you, but I still think that DC tends to be the worst option, as the only thing produced in DC is POLITICS! 😉
As for lobbying, it’s a bit of a two-edged sword. During the Clinton administration, the approach was to regard “do-gooder” NGOs as “not lobbying, to be listened to”, and everything else as “lobbying, to be ignored – unless they paid off Democrats”. Nasty stuff. What resulted during Clinton was thus a kind of “anti-human” type of regulation, which was especially notable on “federal lands”, which seemed to belong to Democrat elites and the Sierra Club, not the American People.
I am relying on the idea that Trump’s direct interventions on the revolving door are working, although I’m not sure if we have answers back on that yet. Might be a good time for POTUS to get some answers on that.
Short version: IMO, when the honest parts of industry are not listened to at all by lawmakers, it’s just as evil as when industry writes the rules without any oversight by the people. The need for Trumpian deregulation was a clear demonstration of the baggage that results from “buonisti-driven” regulation, yet note that Trump is still insisting on “clean air and clean water”, etc.
Shorter version: Monsanto / Danforth Industries (LOL) neither automatically trusted nor distrusted by this eater of both GMO and organic! 😉

Deplorable Patriot

Well, having been inside that facility and getting the grand tour, I’m here to tell you NOT to trust them. I have my reasons without going into doxx details.

wheatietoo

Heheh.

nikkichico7
TheseTruths

Suspicious dog, to go with suspicious cat!

nikkichico7

Yeah 🤨👍 .. 😉🤚❤️

nikkichico7

I love them all ‼️‼️ .. 🤗 …

prognosticatasaurusrex

Monty Python and the giant Chicken house come to mind….RUN AWAY RUN AWAY!

nikkichico7

LOL … 😂👍 … love monte python …

prognosticatasaurusrex

I am the knight that says “nee” LOL

nikkichico7

.. bwahahahahaha … it’s only a flesh wound ..
Bwahahahahaha .. 😂👍‼️‼️

prognosticatasaurusrex

I command you to bring me ….a….SHRUBBERY! LOL Find you a shrubber!

nikkichico7

Ahhhhhhh bwahahahahaha … my older son as a teenager know that by HEART … we were waiting for train in Cedar Point amusement park and he starts reciting it, just the four of there … then two pretty teenage girls show up, they hear the recitation and … back away. My son, socially oblivious didn’t have a clue … 😑 … he’s a real nice young man now and is headed into adulthood, … there’s an engagement in the air … 😃👍❤️

prognosticatasaurusrex

First, LOVE Cedar Point! Millennium Force is the BEST. 2nd I recite lines like that ALL the time. Third congrats to your son on the pending nuptials.
One for the road…
STOP! Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see.
What is your name?
What is your Quest?
What s the average air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
I think Schiff compares to Sir Robyn…the CHICKEN hearted. With MUCH apologies.
Brave Sir Schiff ran away.
He bravely ran away away.
When danger reared it’s ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!

nikkichico7

BWAHAHAHAHAHA …. ahhhhhhhhh I love that ‼️‼️ …
Thank you for the congrats … he’s met a very nice lady, and she has a wicked sense of humor .. yay .. 😬🤚❤️
I think it’s a gift to have a wee bit of a free spirit ..
.. love Brave Sir Robin … bwahahahahaha ….. .. 😜🤚..

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Permanent Turkey cease fire in Syria. US troops to keep Oil fields secure, future is tbd. Sanctions withdrawn. Will reimpose is Turkey renigs. SDF General says Kurds are thankful, still guarding ISIS prisoners. Escapees were recaptured. EU needs to act and take their prisoners back. Let someone else fight in blood stained sand.
HaHa POTUS going after Critical pundits and politicians, they got us into this mess!!
No American blood, another military intervention avoided.
Red line, 58 tomahawks regime change, 500k dead, refugees displaced
ME is less safe, stable, secure than before conflicts
TRUMP Foreign Policy – For future wars, must be in National interest, Requires a Plan for Victory, NOBODY CAN BEAT US!!

wheatietoo

It was short and sweet, wasn’t it.
But…powerful!
Great job on the recap, Butterfly!

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

TYVM! POTUS as usual, made us proud!!

andyocoregon

I loved how he totally ignored the screeching, shrill female reporter’s angry question as he walked right past her without saying a word.

patfrederick

big deal…I did it as a teenager all the time with my mom…LOL

andyocoregon

Shame on you.

patfrederick

yeah, 40 years later, I’m all broke up about it…LOL

andyocoregon

🙂

prognosticatasaurusrex

Where are all the “pearl clutchers NOW? HELLO? Anybody there? Mittens? Pierre? Miss Lindsey? Dems? All I here is CRICKETS. That is how shit gets DONE…C H U M P S !…
Peal clutching MIC or COC Republican and Democrat…This is AWFUL, It is the worst thin EVER (removing 50 troops from the front line) WE are starting a new ISIS, blah blah blah, this will NEVER be able to be fixed….WAAAAAHHH…..Trump: “Hold my diet Coke”

andyocoregon

So President Trump pulled 28 troops out of harm’s way as 10,000 Turkish troops mobilized at the border to prepare for an invasion of Syria. Good on him.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Yes, he took AWAY the “human shields” and sacrificial lambs that the Cabal and MIC were hoping would be slaughtered to get us in a broader war in the ME AGAIN. Trump beat them AGAIN without firing a shot.

nikkichico7

I agree with wheatie 🌾🌾 … kudos Butterfly 🦋 .. ❤️ ..

patfrederick

yup, me too!

nikkichico7

😉👍❤️

trumpismine

I love our President Trump!

patfrederick

ME TOO!!!!

andyocoregon

Melania’s gonna come after you wannabe homewreckers. /s
😉

Dora

Rand Paul Sounds the Alarm On Anti-Trump GOP Senators
During an interview with Fox News host Tucker Carlson, Republican Senator Rand Paul spoke out on the ongoing impeachment inquiry against President Trump. At one point during the segment, Carlson asked Paul why Senator Lindsey Graham wasn’t using his subpoena power as Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee to look into the Democrats’ efforts to ruin President Trump’s presidency.
Paul made it clear that he has put pressure on Graham but then made the shocking revelation that there are Republican members in the Senate who have a bigger “allegiance” to the deep state than the President.
https://trendingpolitics.com/rand-paul-sounds-the-alarm-on-anti-trump-gop-senators/

patfrederick

wow could’ve knocked me over with a feather…I am shocked!
(do i really need a sarc tag?)

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HA! Yes, I’m shocked – SHOCKED – that WIMPS are being WIMPS!!! 😀

prognosticatasaurusrex

RINO cucs gotta RINO cuc. I have seen more spine in a jelly fish, and more balls on a gelding.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

GOOD STUFF! Flip it around from despair to a BATTLE PLAN and we are gonna WIN, WIN, WIN.
This is all tying together, and it’s a WINNER for the overall strategy. Republicans need to study this thing and have a heart-to-heart with themselves. LISTEN to the ladies – Ronna McDaniel and Jane Timken – they GET TRUMP and why there needs to be GOP UNITY behind him right now, to get Trump WHAT HE NEEDS – a winning Senate and GOP HOUSE so that we can PASS STUFF and FIX THIS STUFF NOW!!!
Rand Paul gets it. He’s very careful not to go too negative on Graham and the others, but I’ll say it out loud.
ALINSKY FEARS of the Deep State are being used to pick off the NERVOUS NELLIES – to FREEZE THEM.
Solution? FORCE GRAHAM so it’s “not his fault”. He needs PROTECTION by his fellow GOP. Force his hand. WE DON’T CARE what dirt or pressure the DS throws at him – it falls back on THEM – not Graham.
Graham is going to get re-elected. PERIOD. So GO GET EM.
One way to play this is that IMPEACHMENT FOLLIES will be MATCHED by Senate hearings. They persist in this impeachment BS, we MATCH AND ADD Senate investigations.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Want to watch Cabal heads explode? Including Nanacy and the MSM? Have Graham Subpoena ALL the impeachment witnesses…INCLUDING Schiff. Remember, his talks with the “whistle blower” makes him a FACT witness. THAT ought to pucker quite a few Cabal sphincters.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oooooh, I LIKE IT!!! 😀

prognosticatasaurusrex

It could LITERALLY happen tomorrow. Missy Lindsey needs to find her spine and balls again.

A Fortiori

Wolfie — I posited the other day the theory that PDJT is looking for this impeachment fight, and he wants it to be waged in the Senate were everything will come out in the open. The truth would not only take down a big chunk of the cabal, it would destroy the MSM’s credibility.
This may be a crazy theory, but if it is the path PDJT is pursuing, then having Lindsey look feckless and having Rand Paul imply that Republicans are divided would embolden the other side. And waiting to hold hearings until they have expended their ammunition would make more sense.
Are we seeing a version of “when strong, feign weakness.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

As long as they don’t wait too long. The other side has been rather remarkable in this respect, of making us “follow our own strategy too patiently”.
That is one of their primary methods of “surviving Trump”.

ForGodandCountry

Let’s re-word that last sentence for clarity and accuracy….
“Paul made the shocking revelation that there are Republican members in the Senate who have a bigger “allegiance” to the deep state than the people, their country, and it’s Constitution.”

ladypenquin

Besides DJT being President, the other comfort I take is that long before any of these traitorous Senators can move against the President, they’re going to be outed as either corrupt – ill-gotten financial gains from foreign entities, and/or being participants in the attempted Coup.
These are things to keep in mind – there isn’t anything to stop the President from revealing everything he knows about these bad actors.

Teagan

Well diving into the weeds, , I would offer yet another re-word substitution ….place $$$$ and personal gain where DeepState goes.
IMO, pure and simple…it’s all about the money.

ForGodandCountry

Yep.
When I read your post I thought, “Yes, when ISN’T It all about the money?”

GA/FL

FACE IT – some of our legislators are BAPF (Bought And Paid For)
They have sold their offices and our country and its citizens for profit and perks.

trumpismine

The VSG is saving Blood and Treasure and keeps on MAGA !
What a gift from God.

andyocoregon

Except God didn’t vote for President Trump. We did.

ForGodandCountry

I’ve told you once before about snide anti-God comments like this, Andy. It ain’t funny.
From our point of view God raised DJT up to become POTUS at this critical juncture in American history, and he became POTUS against terrible odds.
It’s not right for you to piss all over someone’s post when they are giving thanks to God for this President.
Everyone here knows you don’t believe in God and, given what and how you post, likely hold some grudge against him. Keep it to yourself.
This is your final warning.

andyocoregon

Well, please allow me to refute your post one sentence at a time….
1. I could care less what you think or feek about my posts. I’ve found several of your posts to be objectionable too, but do I berate you for it? It’s my opinion and I can state it anytime on this Open Thread that professes to enjoy The First Amendment. And I didn’t post that to be funny. I’m serious. God does not vote. We do. Period.
2. You have your point of view and I have mine. You state yours and I state mine.
3. You’re pissing all over my one sentence post, aren’t you, hypocrite?
4. You have no f’ing idea what I believe or what relationship I have with God. So you can just STFU about that B.S.
5, Ooo, I’m so skeered. Whatch gonna do dumbass? All I can say to that threat is F off and die.

andyocoregon

“feel” not feek

Cuppa Covfefe

Put a sock in it either way, kiddo.
You’ve crossed a bridge too far with your immature, asinine, disrespectful comments.
You deserve no respect, as you haven’t earned it. You are no better than those idiot Antifa and SJW snowflake protestors. Grow up.
I never see you make any comments about Mohammed, Buddha, Various India or Asia deities, whatever.
You only single out Jesus for ridicule.
And, by the way, Islam is not a religion, it is a political, war driven, conquest system. So your comment on the other thread is a non-sequitor as well.
And, GOD DOES vote. About every single event that happens anywhere and everywhere, at every single point in this universe that exists, ever existed, or will exist.
You’ll learn that at the Great White Throne Judgement. Look it up. Learn, Turn, or Burn. Your Choice, Your Eternity. Choose Wisely, for you only have ONCE.

andyocoregon

And of course we now have that sleezy old skank butting in where she’s not invited to show what a nasty battleaxe thinks.
News Flash. I could GAS what you think.

Cuppa Covfefe

I’m not a SHE, cupcake.
But then you don’t care, you just spew. A left-coast liberal pretending to be an adult conservative.

Deplorable Patriot

I would like to thank the gentlemen of this forum for their support of common decency.

andyocoregon

Could have fooled me. You sound like a bitter old hag. And how is anyone to know your gender when you use a non-human moniker?
Maybe you’re emo gay. Who knows? Who cares?
Once again, I don’t GAS what you think.

andyocoregon

I swear, some of you people appear to think of President Trump as the second coming of Jesus. He’s not. He’s a man with all the flaws and biases of any human being. Save your religious adoration for Got, not President Trump. As much as I like him, I can’t say I love him. I reserve that emotion for God, not humans. Well, with the exception of my wife, ha ha. I had to throw that one in, she might be reading this.

andyocoregon

God, not Got. Sorry about that one.

ForGodandCountry

“I swear, some of you people appear to think of President Trump as the second coming of Jesus.”
This is a disgusting and gross accusation which is unsupportable and completely inappropriate. No one here thinks this, and no one here has ever said it.
The fact is that you FALSELY make this gross accusation in order to JUSTIFY your posts such as “when is God going to give me a million dollars?”, or your snide reply to TrumpIsMine here today.
I don’t know what your problem is, Andy, but your insolence and disrespect to other’s posts praising and thanking God are going to stop.
Voluntarily or involuntarily….one way or another.
Choose wisely.

Deplorable Patriot

Psst…beware of entrapment on this. I know it’s a hotspot and not amusing, but consider that like wrestling a pig in mud, some people actually enjoy it:

andyocoregon

Bite me little bitch.

andyocoregon

That post was not aimed at you, D.P.
It was for 4G&C who once again has posted some kind of veiled threat. I’m done arguing with the moron about who said what. But when it makes a threat it cannot back up, I have to respond.

Deplorable Patriot

This post is mine. I know exactly what’s been going on. And, frankly, I agree with both of you: Trump is not Christ come back to earth, and the constant insults to peoples’ faith is really disrespectful and beneath an American gentleman.
Frankly, if I could send you both to time out like the 10 year olds you are resembling from behind the comfort of your keyboards, I would.
And the name calling you did a post back that I didn’t respond to was over the line.

andyocoregon

OK, Menagerie.

Rodney Short

Just for the record I did not mean to like your comment back to DP infact I think it is really fucked up.
You crossed the line,I pray for you.

andyocoregon

Thank you Rodney. I just said a little prayer for you.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I don’t know what your problem is, Andy, but your insolence and disrespect to other’s posts praising and thanking God are going to stop.
Voluntarily or involuntarily….one way or another.

Again with the veiled threats, from a person with NO POWER to back them up?

andyocoregon

Should I call the FBI? LOL!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Everyone here knows you don’t believe in God and, given what and how you post, likely hold some grudge against him.

This is absurd. If he doesn’t think God exists (and it hasn’t been established that that is what he believes, but for the sake of argument, let’s stipulate it), how could he have a grudge against someone/something that (he believes) is non-existent?
That would be like me accusing you of: not believing Zeus exists [I’m 99.9999999% certain you don’t think Zeus exists], and holding a grudge against Zeus. You’d laugh in my face if I were to accuse you of holding a grudge against Zeus.
Or are you in that camp of people that can’t fathom the concept that someone might truly not believe God exists?

andyocoregon

Thank you for that argument, but for the record, I do believe in God, Jesus Christ and The Holy Ghost. But just because I don’t wear my religion on my sleeve doesn’t mean I’m an atheist.
I’d challenge anyone here to find where I have stated I don’t believe in God.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Fair enough…I didn’t seriously claim you didn’t, but that sentence was just so freaking absurd I had to point it out, and to do so I had to do a “for the sake of argument.”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

…And you’re absolutely right to be angered that they’ve jumped to that conclusion because you DON’T wear it on your sleeve.

scott467

“Thank you for that argument, but for the record, I do believe in God, Jesus Christ and The Holy Ghost.”
________________
That is good news… which I was not aware of or expecting 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

“Thank you for the argument”
It’s official. We’re in a friggin’ Monty Python sketch.

Gudthots

Even the … believe and tremble. I’ve found that a life filled with the fruit of the Spirit is the best evidence of saving faith. Yes, we stumble, we struggle, but when we do, we seek reconciliation after. Both with our Creator and with the people we’ve hurt. And we make restitution when that is appropriate. This is the kind of evidence that compels.

Deplorable Patriot

Did you mean to send this to Andy?
I mean this is getting off the rails in so many ways it’s not even funny.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Nope, to FG&C, who made the absurd statement I quoted.

Deplorable Patriot

Ahh, okay.
As a non-confrontational person, I get lost in all of it sometimes. Why people can’t just scroll past is lost on me.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Sometimes a person who is acting out and WAY overstepping his bounds (FG&C) needs to be slapped, not ignored.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, well, it’s now sending me for a sparkling water.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

This is your final warning.

Who the blazes are YOU, FG&C, to be issuing “final warning”s??

andyocoregon

Just another bossy cow.

Tonawanda

FG&C frequently cannot understand or “misunderstands” what people are saying on all sorts of topics, in addition to making ridiculous threats, often in combination. Is he a fool or a knave? The old question.
He affects a “butch” persona, and has a very strange but persistent fascination with homosexual/anal rape, which I documented a while back and which continues.
Long ago I concluded he is a conscious disrupter and plant on this site, but others apparently don’t think so.
As far as just passing him by, I see his icon and just leave the site altogether rather than observe his nauseating behavior, and his implicit disparagement of both God and country. Others apparently have stronger stomachs.

Deplorable Patriot

Actually, what FG&C does is rise to bait.

Tonawanda

Do not know what that means.
His replies are often embarrassing because he so often misses the point. And then he mixes in the ridiculous butch stuff, a pretty good indication he has very little self-awareness.
When Steve made the “orange” joke, FG&C’s response was “bullshit.”
“”Bullshit” in response to one of the oldest knock-knock jokes told by mankind?
It is precisely this level of stupidity, incredible stupidity, that makes me think he is an act.
That he would chose the handle he did and then make the hostile, clueless posts he does strikes me as exactly what a troll would do to make people look bad who actually do love God and country.
If “rise to bait” means throwing out nasty little idiocies on purpose to get people going, then I guess you are on the “knave” side of the question.
There is no accounting for taste. He certainly gets his attaboys.
I have seen his CTH-level nastiness leveled at a number of people here, and yet he is constantly encouraged.
Whenever I see the FC&G icon, I think of Mr. Slave from South Park, except nasty and hostile.
Apparently I am the only one who feels this way, so I just leave whenever I see he is posting.

ForGodandCountry

Right. You always “leave this site altogether” when you see my icon….Except for today, huh?
Your posts have “personal grudge” oozing all through them, Tonawanda, including outright falsehoods.
Remind me, how did I manage to make your hate for me so obviously visceral? We all know it’s not my posting style. You and I got into it somehow, but I can’t remember what it was about (mostly because I don’t hold onto grudges….they aren’t worth remembering for the most part…..particularly those from online anonymous forums).
As for “nasty”, nothing I’ve posted here today comes anywhere NEAR the level of nastiness in your few posts here. In fact, of all the posters taking part in this sub-thread, YOU are the nastiest of all. And you weren’t even a part of the debate.
Congrats. Hypocrite.

Tonawanda

I have to be more accurate about what I said. I should not have said what I did about FG&C and homosexual/anal rape. I should have said he had a fascination with “sadistic violence, INCLUDING homosexual/anal rape”.
I regret making it sound as if FG&C was exclusively fascinated with anal rape, which might imply more than what is actual fact.
Although whenever I read his “butch” comments I get the image of Mr. Slave on South Park, and that is how I picture FG&C:
https://wiki.southpark.cc.com/wiki/Mr._Slave

rayzorbak

FG&C?……
ARROGANCE Personified (as much as can be online I guess)
So-called “Pilot” with a GOD Complex.
“HE” thinks that “HE” Knows so much more than the rest of US.
Andy….. on the other hand does appear anti-religious from time to time.
Both OCCASIONALLY make GOOD comments……
But “Final Warning”?
That is over the top.
Hit me AGAIN FG&C……
I know you will.

Teagan

Final warning???

andyocoregon
kalbokalbs

Invoking, “Final Warnings” = spam bin like comment. (Reader rolls eyes and moves on)
Our lone Admin, has the sole authority to issue an enforceable final or last warning.
– IIRC, have only read that posted one time. May very well be incorrect on this.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I am only concerned at the *enforcement* level with speech which will lead immediately or eventually to site closure – which means illegal speech, *ALMOST* illegal speech, plus *actual* pornography.
I’m proud of you all. You are now showing many times more tolerance of free speech than you were earlier, and you’re USING your free speech. You’re saying what you really believe, without fear.
Things will sort out. By the time I’m done with us, we will all be heroic, taking undeserved insults and attacks on things we love with a CALM STRENGTH that will strike AWE and FEAR into our enemies.
Free speech will EMPOWER US and STRENGTHEN US, and that is why THEY FEAR IT.
In ONE GENERATION we could get rid of mass shootings, and have unlimited RKBA, by RAISING OUR CHILDREN to value free speech, fear God, and respect all men – even their enemies.
And yes, I’m not there yet, either. But I know the path.comment image

rayzorbak

Whoa!
Final Warning?
ARROGANCE Much?
I don’t agree with Andy much here….
And I don’t agree with YOU much either.
There are many here with differing thoughts and beliefs….
But…… “Final Warning”?
Who the FUCK are YOU?

trumpismine

I believe God gave Trumo the vote of confidence and answered the many prayers for our Republic

ladypenquin

Trumpismine, here’s a strange thing… I never thought much about God’s Hand in the election of Donald J Trump – but now that so much of the evil going down in this country has been exposed – far more than just the Obama years, my faith has been strengthened. God heard the cries of His people, and sent someone, who so many considered the least likely (though not us) to come to our aid.
And DJT has. Accomplishing even more than Reagan could because I don’t think he realized just how bad the Deep State was at that time.

andyocoregon

 trumpismine
That’s entirely possible, but he didn’t vote for him, did he?
I stand by my previous statement.

trumpismine

Trump!

Deplorable Patriot

Okay, so we voted for him, but that doesn’t mean Divine Intervention didn’t help some of us determine that he was the best choice for the job.

andyocoregon

Once again, that’s possible, but who knows for sure?

scott467

…or that God did not put it in DJT’s heart and mind to consider this challenge, this great undertaking, to lead our nation at this critical point in history.
…or that God did not test and prove DJT throughout his life, preparing him for this moment. God may have done the same to many others as well, but when the time came, DJT answered the call.
I always wonder, because the Scriptures do not say, but for example, how many men did God inquire of, before He got to Abram (later called Abraham, Genesis 17:5, 1 Chronicles 1:27, Nehemiah 9:7), who said yes?
And because Abram said yes, because Abram was faithful, it was to Abram and to his seed (who did not even exist yet, because Abram’s wife Sarai [later called Sarah] was at that time barren) that the promises of God were made.
Abram was 75 years old (Genesis 12:4) when he uprooted his family, gathered up all his substance and people, and left on a journey to a strange land, in obedience to God. 🙂

andyocoregon

I’m sure there are many Democrats who think God ordained Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama to be in their respective positions of political power. Remember how Obama was regularly referred to as The Chosen One?
And I’m sure they also quote scriptures to support their theories.

TheseTruths

Well, we all know how Dems quote Scripture — out of context, twisted to suit their purposes, and in a way that’s calculated to ridiculte traditional Christian beliefs. They are not honest.

ForGodandCountry

Dems also like to mock God, too. Kinda like asking when is God going to give them a million dollars, like Andy does quite often.

andyocoregon

Oh, you poor little sensitive thing. People ask God for all kinds of things. I ask him for money.

Deplorable Patriot

You know, I’ve heard of God granting all sorts of requests. Aside from covering immediate expenses, I’ve never heard of God just sending money.

andyocoregon

And just because you’ve never heard of it, doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened does it? Look at all the TV evangelists who claim God has “rewarded seed money tenfold” to those who contribute to their scam broadcasts.

scott467

“I’m sure there are many Democrats who think God ordained Hillary Clinton or Barrack Obama to be in their respective positions of political power.”
_____________
Not any intellectually honest ones. A person would have to lie to himself first.
The list of anti-Christian acts by Hussein and Hitlery is long, but as just one example, an intellectually honest person cannot reconcile the abattoirs known as ‘abortion clinics’ or ‘wholesale baby part merchants’ with Christian faith and belief.
It’s like claiming to be a Christian and worshipping the devil at the same time. They can claim to be a Christian (anybody can claim anything), but their actions clearly and indisputably contradict their claim.
.
“Remember how Obama was regularly referred to as The Chosen One?”
______________
I remember that he was mockingly called the ‘Chosen One’ by many of his critics, because of their correct perception that Hussein was worshipped like a false god by many of his troglodytes.
.
“And I’m sure they also quote scriptures to support their theories.”
______________
Oh I would surely welcome that fight.
And have, many times.
On the rare occasion when Hussein or Hitlery try to bumble through a Scripture verse, all it ever does is display their purposeful deception, which is easily exposed.
And it’s no different for their followers.
It’s one of the many amazing things about the Bible.
If you know what it says, if you have read it at least several times or more and you are reasonably familiar with it, you can show that false doctrine is false. There are many ways for someone to try to squirm under or around the plain language of the Scriptures, but it is impossible to do so, without revealing that you are squirming, and that’s the ‘tell’.
It is very difficult to fool people who are actually familiar with the Scriptures (which is one of the reasons God’s people should be familiar with them), and those who abuse and misuse the Scriptures for personal or political gain usually are NOT familiar with it. It takes too much time and effort (at least for the large majority of people) to really become familiar with the Scriptures, unless your motives are pure.
Like everything else, they just use some catch-phrases to ‘signal’ to their useful idiots, giving them some morsel or justification to allow them to continue deceiving themselves.

ForGodandCountry

Ask him about his accusation…”I swear, some of you people appear to think of President Trump as the second coming of Jesus.”
….and how he justifies same.

Deplorable Patriot

Knock it off, please. BOTH OF YOU.

andyocoregon

Well, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion.

andyocoregon

4G&C….
You just did ask me in a cowardly roundabout way.
So I’ll answer that with all one has to do is read all the posts that claim God made Trump President.

ForGodandCountry

That is not the same as your accusation, but it is unsurprising you would try to conflate the two.

scott467

“Ask him about his accusation…’I swear, some of you people appear to think of President Trump as the second coming of Jesus.’
….and how he justifies same.”
______________
Well, hyperbole aside, I understand that some people are more enthusiastic than others in the way they publicly express their appreciation to God for giving us a leader like DJT, and I see how that might grate a little on non-believers or those who are much more reserved in their public expression of belief.
I suspect that would apply across the board, i.e., enthusiastic football fans probably grate on those who are more reserved, etc.
I am somewhat reserved in the public exuberance department myself, but not reserved at all about discussing the Scriptures and what they plainly say. I like the rational approach, because it is a foundation on which a case can be presented, whereas enthusiasm is simply shared by those who hear it, or not. Personally I appreciate the exuberance of others, it is edifying, while I also recognize that it may not be to everyone’s taste.
I don’t mean to be on both sides of the issue, and that’s certainly not my usual position, but I do want to be understanding of different perspectives. I like to hammer that stuff out through argument and debate, because it helps me to understand my own positions better (putting time and effort into presenting a coherent case) AND understanding the position of the person I’m conversing with better, because I give them the benefit of the doubt that they are likewise putting effort into presenting a coherent case for their view(s).
As one example that this approach (discussion or debate) works, I did not know that Andy believed in God the Father, Christ the Son and the Holy Spirit.
That is good to know!
I don’t know that Andy would have had cause to share that, if not for today’s discussion. 👍

ladypenquin

Personally, I view Obama as the anti-Christ, and one among others of his ilk. When he gave one of his first speeches after becoming president, at Georgetown. I knew then and there, he was a liar and had scammed his way into the presidency. Asked about abortion, he laughed it off, and said it was, “above his paygrade.” He rode into office on the shoulders of people who control mass communication and the information highway in this country. IMO, the only “god” Obama believes in is himself.
It was also clear that there are some low-information Democrats, who have faith, but were fooled by the man who pretended to be on their side. One of the biggest travesties of Obama’s presidency was the harm he actually did to the Black community.
One of the greatest outcomes of DJT’s presidency will be how he restored not only this country’s sense of self-worth and value in the world as AMERICANS, but also the fact that this man actually lifted the minorities in this country to heights the Dems never intended for them to have.
Now if we can only stop the genocide of the unborn…

andyocoregon

Blaaaahahahaha!

andyocoregon

Once again my post was in reply to 4G&C.

rayzorbak

God has this…..
And EVERYTHING else! Always has.
Not many here… or anywhere believe like me….
That God Is in TOTAL Control.
“Our” “Prayers” “deeds” etc……
Can NOT change anything.
God PLANNED all of this…..
EVERYTHING …. WILL…happen as he has planned.
“WE” can NOT change him…..
HE… is the “Potter”….
“WE” are the CLAY.

ladypenquin

Andy, you make many good, cogent points, but making negative remarks regarding any other folks’ beliefs, ie. in a Higher Being, The Creator, God… takes away from whatever you want to say.
You despise the Democrats as much as we do – that should be our common focus and goal – to do them in, not ourselves.

andyocoregon

I don’t feel that was a negative remark I made about God not voting for President Trump. It was a point of clarification. If people sit back and expect God to elect our leaders, we’ll end up with Democrats in power once again.
And false idolatry of any human being is a sin in The Catholic Faith.

ladypenquin

It’s perception, Andy. Many of us view that God had a hand in not only guiding DJT to the presidency, but also guiding us to vote for him. Similarly, many of actually feel stronger now than we did in 2016 about the Hand of Providence upon DJT’s presidency. Not too different from George Washington’s belief that Divine Providence guided him, and those who helped set up this great nation.
As I said, leave out the rebuttals when some of us mention God, and then the rest of what you say is solid. I like you, but even I can see you being snarky whenever HE is mentioned.
We’re good. Just being open and honest in discussion.

andyocoregon

If I want to make a rebuttal when someone mentions God’s hand in electing President Trump, I’ll do it.
Where do people get off telling me what to post and what not to post?

ladypenquin

You’re angry that people are responding to what they feel are slights and mocking. It comes across as mocking. The Dems mock us enough. OT mocked us for having additional views and a lens in which to perceive what was happening in POTUS’ presidency.
You post as you will, but just understand people will respond. We’re not here to debate or argue God, at least not in terms of denigration. I’m pretty accepting, and often like what you say, but it adds nothing to what we’re trying to accomplish when you appear to attack for beliefs, rather than discussion about the facts.
You want more voters to make sure they reelect DJT. Good – simply say that.
BTW, you’re right. God isn’t going to be casting those votes on Nov. 3rd 2020, but I’m sure going to pray that the Almighty keeps the hearts of men/women strong so that they’ll go vote and give DJT another 4 years. None of us believe this can be done alone.
We believe we need each other. We believe President Trump needs us (and he believes that too). Many also believe that we need Divine Providence to AID in accomplishing this – which for me, is my greatest heart’s desire.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m going to be MIA for a bit. Could y’all mind the playpen?

ladypenquin

I don’t know DP, some of us are running around with scissors. 😂

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, well, thanks anyway. I had to go get more San Pellegrino. Jeez. Some people just can’t help rising to bait.

ladypenquin

😇

ForGodandCountry

Your own words here are very telling, and prove my point nicely. Why do you feel the need to rebut someone’s post regarding God?
You’ve already answered that. You claim it’s because “I swear, some of you people appear to think of President Trump as the second coming of Jesus.”
So what if some do? Who are YOU to tell them otherwise (never mind the accusation itself is completely without merit).
You are the one WAY out of line, Andy. And your complete loss of emotional control, along with all your insults, proves it.

andyocoregon

***Yawn***

ForGodandCountry

The last time Andy pulled this same crap was about a week ago when he…once again…responded to someone thanking God with a “yeah but when is he going to give me a million dollars?” post (His favorite line)
He does this quite often.
Believing in God, and having reverence and respect for God (and other posters’ posts re: same) are two entirely different things.
Even Satan believes in God. Respect for God (and other’s post in thanks and praise of him), however, is an altogether different matter….
…and replying to people’s post thanking/praising God for PDJT or other blessings with “yeah but when is he going to give me a million dollars?” or today’s snide comment has become a habitual pattern with Andy.
I should also like to point out I didn’t engage in any name-calling or insults, unlike Andy.
It’s really quite simple, and your post here hits the point spot on. I knew I wasn’t alone in seeing this from Andy. And frankly, I don’t think it is too much to demand he stop doing it.

andyocoregon

4G&C…..
No insults? WTH do you call this B.S…..
“It’s not right for you to piss all over someone’s post when they are giving thanks to God for this President.
Everyone here knows you don’t believe in God and, given what and how you post, likely hold some grudge against him. Keep it to yourself.
This is your final warning.”
D’oh!

ForGodandCountry

If you believe that you have a very disrespectful and ignorant way of showing it. And I am tired of it.
Like I said, you are going to stop, one way or another. Voluntarily or involuntarily.
Watch and see.

andyocoregon

**Yawn!**

Deplorable Patriot

Actually, the last time he pulled this was yesterday. I asked him if he picked me out specifically, because I was starting to feel special.
Next time it happens, I’m going to do what I do with screaming children who just want attention: ignore it. At this point, it’s bait. He’s just like a member of my family who needles until people explode.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You are the one WAY out of line, Andy. And your complete loss of emotional control, along with all your insults, proves it.

Andy’s not the one issuing threats.

andyocoregon

Now that’s a very good point, SteveInCO. I don’t usually take stuff on the internet personally until they begin making direct threats. Then my teeth come out.

pgroup

Since you mentioned George Washington, let me point out that the Indians viewed GW as “The Man Who Cannot Be Killed In Battle”. They attributed that characteristic to the sky spirits favoring him.
Not God, as we understand Him today. One of the more famous paintings of GW shows him kneeling in the snow next to his horse with his head bowed. Everyone at that time knew that GW was a man who lived his belief in Almighty God.
On this site especially, it is wrong to deliberately denigrate another person’s spiritual beliefs. Benign indifference is the way to deal with different belief systems. However, worshiping communism (should one sneak by wolfie) is a different kettle of smelly fish …

andyocoregon

Who’s “worshiping communism” here?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If people sit back and expect God to elect our leaders, we’ll end up with Democrats in power once again.

This, I should think, would be something that both believers and non-believers could agree is true.

TheseTruths

Yes. We do not expect God to vote, change the oil in our vehicles, or do our work for us. We have to do it. If He decides to intervene, that is entirely up to Him. But we have to do what is required, within our power, to achieve the results we want.

ForGodandCountry

It’s a ridiculous projection upon everyone here and a stupid defense of a completely unnecessary and disrespectful,post. Not one person has ever said we can sit back and let God do the heavy lifting.
“If people sit back and expect God to elect our leaders, we’ll end up with Democrats in power once again.”
Please point out where even one person has suggested this. Just one.
Hint: he can’t. And he knows it, too.

andyocoregon

Yawn. Poor baby.

Deplorable Patriot

Knock it off, please. BOTH OF YOU.

ForGodandCountry

I’d like to do that, DP, but I’m not going to tolerate Andy’s lack of respect for other people’s posts thanking/praising God for blessings received any longer. See LadyP’s post in this thread re: “even I can see it” message to Andy.

andyocoregon

*Yawn*

plateaufortrump

It took a lot of time to scroll past an argument that no one has ever won after the resurrection. I guess that is why we have so many denominations.

Deplorable Patriot

There are so many sects because the people running them consider their interpretation of Scripture to be the one that all should follow.

Dora
patfrederick

hope Barr tells them to pound sand…FOIA signed by 3 Dem Senators…
FTA
Trump has since publicly asked China and Ukraine to probe what the Bidens did in those countries, the Senators noted in the letter, and several associates of Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, have been charged with funneling foreign money to U.S. lawmakers. They also cited a report, relying on anonymous sources, claiming Giuliani pressed for help in an Oval Office meeting with Trump in 2017 in securing the release of a jailed client, Iranian-Turkish gold trader Reza Zarrab.
“These factual revelations raise serious concerns about the Justice Department’s involvement in politically-motivated investigations, at the behest of the White House and Rudy Giuliani,” they wrote. “Therefore, we submit a request for records seeking information about the White House’s attempts to interfere with federal law enforcement to pursue politically beneficial outcomes.”
The FOIA request asked for all memoranda, correspondence, or memorialized conversations with, to, or from Attorney General William Barr containing any one or more of dozens of phrases, including “Rudy,” “quid pro quo,” and “Zelensky.”
They asked Barr for a response within 10 business days.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/senate-democrats-submit-foia-request-for-information-on-trumps-effort-to-probe-bidens_3125184.html

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

So Dems want a report on the HORRIBLE FACT that the Trump administration is ENFORCING THE LAW?
Hmmmm. I wonder what we could give them? 😉
Return them everything that shows DEMOCRATS are COMMUNISTS.

patfrederick

LMAO…doesn’t matter what we give them, they’ll make up their own version anyway!

ladypenquin

I’m pretty sure that Congress doesn’t have any rights when it comes to the Justice Department doing their job. The corrupt Congress critters are desperate to find out what does AG Barr know…

patfrederick

IKR…they ALL want to know HOW BAD IS IT?
LOL

ladypenquin

You can just see AG Barr doing that little shrug right now, can’t you.
I bet AG Barr and his close confidants are smarter than all the vermin lawyers in Lawfare.

ladypenquin

Actually, I’m waiting for the DOJ to send the SWAT team over and arrest Adam Shiff. Who knows, it could happen. 6AM in the morning would work just fine.

patfrederick

love this idea!

Teagan

With a TV crew, lights and full coverage of course!

ladypenquin

Absolutely.

duchess01
wheatietoo

So the stormed the room…and Shifty ran away?

andyocoregon

That’s exactly what I have been hoping they’d do. Just barge in and demand transparency. Finally, some Republicans have the intestinal fortitude to do the right thing.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN. Fucking SCHIFF is a disgrace. Tie that boy up and send his COMMIE ASS to CHYYYNNAA.

patfrederick

isn’t Taiwan more to his taste?

patfrederick

or am I thinking Thailand?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think Thailand would be giving him to the CIA – where they would throw him a party full of ladyboys!!!

patfrederick

he does like ’em light in the loafers

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wherever he can experience some KARMIC ORGAN-HARVESTING!!!

patfrederick

not sure he has many to give–no brain, certainly no balls, altho he’s got a lot of nerves…

ForGodandCountry

How about we indict him for any number of federal felonies and lock him up in prison for the rest of his life?
The Standard Hotel says hi (among others).

socaristobo

Is it possible that the tenet that “A Republican politician can be pushed too far.” is something other than the myth I have always believed it to be? These pols seem almost to the edge of being irritated. A disapproving look cannot be far behind.

andyocoregon

I think it took a lot of hutzpah to do what they did. It showed the Demonrats to be the cowards they are.

socaristobo

I agree. It always takes courage to do the right thing, otherwise it would be more common.

patfrederick

i hear they’re sitting in the scif having pizza right now…

litenmaus

“A disapproving look cannot be far behind.”
Or a letter…I’m pretty sure they look like they’re itchin’ to fire off another letter…..:0)

patfrederick

a scathing letter I bet—with LOTS of !!!!!!!!!!
LMAO

litenmaus

LOL….lots of bullet points…..lethal in their own right…………:0)

patfrederick

very nice!!!

slowcreekno

Apparently the Republicans decided there was enough of this kangaroo-court. I wonder when there is a real stop put to this — now of course, as long as the Democrats are busy sitting in their closed room fabricating their baseless process, they don’t do anything else wrong so there’s that.
About time!

wheatietoo

Nice Rant!

patfrederick

“…hello boys…I’M BAAAAAACK…”

Gudthots

With a voice like a trumpet.
With the effect of energizing, not lulling to sleep.
May this spread to every corner of MAGA-land and beyond!

TheseTruths

Yes, excellent message, very effectively delivered.

ForGodandCountry

God bless him and amplify his voice 100,000 fold.

patfrederick

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SCHIFFTY is a MONSTER!!! IMPEACH HIS BONY PENCILNECK ASS!!!

TheseTruths

I know you’re serious, and this is a very serious matter, but “bony pencilneck ass” made me LOL!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good! 😉
All serious and no play makes Wolf a dull pup! 😀comment image

nikkichico7

…. awwwwwwwwwww … 😍😍😍😍 … sooooooo adorable … 🤗 ..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One of my FAVE GIFS!!! <3

nikkichico7

I just love them 😝🤚❤️‼️ …. I want them all … lol …❤️ ..

patfrederick

litenmaus

pf – I’m gonna guess that the podcast wherein Hillary made the remark will be pulled from the internet as well……

patfrederick

probably right

gil00

Little follow up to the post on this the other day. I think once we start seeing neighborhoods trying this peopke will be protesting, ir selling faster.

andyocoregon

One has to wonder where all these new occupants will park their cars? The streets will be overflowing with vehicles.

mollypitcher5

Most likely in yards, in fire lanes, anywhere they can. Nothing like giving a green light to create a ghetto situation.
It’s almost like it’s on purpose. Tear down any traditional neighborhoods for what ? Drive out homeowners? Create division? Anger people?

Gudthots

It’s part of the Agenda 21/xx densification planning. And the outcomes have been discussed quite a bit. My main take-away is that it drives people mad and keeps them from effectively organizing to defeat the overlords.

mollypitcher5

I believe that. Health laws are being ignored in the homeless camp situations. This new additional dwelling decree has to be ignoring fire laws, building codes,health and safety laws. It’s nullifying HOA bylaws.
These crates are going to be plumbed with proper sewage pipes, code electrical work?
This is insanity

andyocoregon

They’ll block other peoples’ driveways and cause many conflicts. What a dumb idea to infill open spaces.
Portland has neighborhoods with parking issues due to Oregon’s Urban Growth Boundary laws. Police are called to those overly congested neighborhoods with great frequency.
https://www.oregonmetro.gov/urban-growth-boundary

kalbokalbs

Cars?
Ox carts pulled by the folks.
(Agenda 21…)

andyocoregon

Yeah, but what about those Oxen farts?

patfrederick

wheatietoo

Haaaa! That’s gonna cause some splodey heads.
😄😆

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Human scum”! LMAO! Cannot stop laughing!

scott467

Yeah, that’s pretty much throwing down the gauntlet… no way to really walk that one back 😁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Well, there’s always INHUMAN SCUM, but I reserve that for ACTUALLY NOT HUMAN!!! 😉

Deplorable Patriot
ladypenquin

I think POTUS has the goods on all of them, Dem and GOP – he is confidently calling them out.

GA/FL

Mr. President is trolling with premium bait.
I swear Fred Trump sent him down South to apprentice with some good old boy expert Bass fishermen. Our Donald has got all their tricks down pat.

Gudthots

Ha!

GA/FL

Oh – forgot – with Bass fishing – you use ‘lures’ and boy does PDJT have the best and knows how to cast, hook and reel ’em in!

GA/FL

cast, set the hook and reel them in….it’s an art.

patfrederick

well they stink like dead fish…

GA/FL

Some fish are predators and aren’t good eaten’ – some are even toxic. Need to be caught and removed so the other fish can thrive.

patfrederick

and then there’s jellyfish…

Nor'easter

Fishiin’s for food, fun, and “braggin’ rights”.
What he’s doing is what those of us from Queens, NY, do to adversaries!
😉

GA/FL

As one Queens guy said, “Queens guys love to mess witchoo.”

Nor'easter

…I LOVE when you say that (so true!)!
😉

GA/FL

However, some of the fishing tactics and traditions translate into strategy for messing with enemies.
“Sit tight in the boat…don’t scare them away and they’ll bite.”
“Give ’em some line, slowly draw him in…”
“Let him run, pull him in a little at a time, keep doing it until he’s tired out.”

daughnworks247

New article up on China.
From organ harvesting to underlying motivation of the CCP.
Kyle Bass and General Robert Spalding, US Air Force General, advisor to the Joint Chiefs on China.
What an interview it was.
If you’re interested.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WHOA!!!!!

Gudthots

And it’s a GOOD ‘UN. MUST READ!

Teagan

And complete with a photo of the live body organ harvesting!

daughnworks247

I can’t “like” that comment.
But it is no different than Germany in War.
It’s awful.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m guessing that was a protest “reenactment” of one of the many witnessed incidents.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Daughn, you may want to see this. It’s not exactly new information, but it explains WHY people are so desperate on the Ukraine impeachment craziness. Evidently Durham has the Obama IC in real trouble. It seems that Ukraine backwards accusations are the only thing left to defend dirty IC (which may include Schiffty, IMO) on Muh Russia. The idea that CIA analysts were LAWYERING UP against Durham…..
Analysts? Might that include Ciarramella? Hmmmmmm……
Oh, So That’s What NBC News Buried In Their Story About AG Barr Expanding Russia Origins Probe
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/10/23/with-ag-barrs-russia-probe-expanding-i-can-see-why-obamas-ex-cia-director-is-a-n2555204

ForGodandCountry

The topic of your whole post here has gotten precious little attention in the past week or so but it is spot on.
In a nutshell….Barr and Durham are zeroing in on the ORIGINS of the basis for the Mueller SC, and THAT is the heart of the true storm of the Big Ugly. This is the true source of democrat panic and desperate attempts to distract everyone with their impeachment BS.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Dems are FLAILING with FAKE IMPEACHMENT as their only defense.

daughnworks247

Hmmmmm, you know, Ciamarella might be in that crew.
Makes sense.
Wolfie, if you’re right on this one, I’m buying you a Magic Eight Ball.
The Oracle of Q Tree.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very frequently in “evolving conspiracies” and “cascading conspiracies”, the deeply “at risk” players (could be low-level, could be high-level) are leveraged in subsequent phases or spawned conspiracies, for the simple reason that their commitment to success is extremely STRONG, and they will “go the extra mile”.

Dora
andyocoregon

IMO, the best part of that YouTube video is at the 19:30 minute mark where they storm the private room.

litenmaus

Thanks for posting this dora.

patfrederick

andyocoregon
Deplorable Patriot

Bring it on, babe. I hope she does. This time, maybe the true numbers will be revealed in how badly she loses.

scott467

Yep.
She couldn’t beat DJT last time, when ALL the advantages were hers.
Now he has an actual record of incredible accomplishment to run on, huge inroads with blacks and Hispanics, a strong economy, building the wall and fulfilling all of his other promises, getting us out of meaningless wars…
And he has all the advantages of incumbency.
So DJT is a hundred times stronger, while she’s just weaker, older and nastier… and even more crooked 😁

andyocoregon

Dem Congressmen have used the “lynching” word many times, especially when referring to the impeachment vote of President Clinton in 1998.
https://www.larslarson.com/lars-thoughts-lynching-is-an-abhorrent-despicable-word-unless-the-democrats-say-it/

scott467

As I often say, if it was not for hypocrisy, the Dems only virtue would be that they’re liars.

Gudthots

It has appeared to me that the Board Owner has been running a distraction operation for a while now. Nearly all the work that Q has done has set the table for citizen journalists, PDJT tweets and other channels to carry the ball forward quite capably.
Keeping the board offline while dancing around and creating much ado about nothing has got to have burned up resources on the other side while costing our side very little. And yes, metrics are being collected.
https://twitter.com/beer_parade/status/1185892143321227264

daughnworks247

andyocoregon
socaristobo

There is a reason they are called Progressives. They are always well ahead of conventional thinking.

ForGodandCountry

is that what you call this?comment image

Deplorable Patriot

That’s assuming that any actual thinking is involved.

ForGodandCountry

I’m merely insulting them for insults sake. Their war on Christianity and it’s values are both very real and very well thought out. If they weren’t, AG Barr would not have made the speech on Christianity and religious liberty he did last week.
I think our common reaction to liberals claiming Christmas trees are religious symbols…in an obvious effort to ban them from public spaces….is to mock and ridicule them.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!
I always thought Christmas trees were like a druidic pagan “add-on” to Christmas. That whole concept was common in Europe – the conversion of old pagan symbols to new Christian meanings after cultures adopted Christianity. And eventually, many of these become so common, they were secularized.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-19/the-history-of-the-christmas-tree/8106078

Deplorable Patriot

No, Christmas trees are Germanic. The symbol is new life. We adopted it. No biggie. I put a lot of angels and bells on mine.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This appropriation of barbarian symbols has gone too far! Garden store gnomes – demeaning team names like “Vikings” – when will the hate end???!!! I’m calling Pocahontas – she will understand! Christmas trees belong in Germany! 😉

Deplorable Patriot

Ha ha ha. And the Creche is Italian. Just try to get my French and Spanish mother to give them up.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Starting to look like it’s not so much losing the Christ in Christmas, but the whole thing becoming too popular, and everybody overloading it with cultural bootleg! If it weren’t for the CCP, we would be having cuddly Christmas pandas and the Advent abacus. HARUMPH! HUMBUG!!! 😉

Tonawanda

Man, there’s that anal imagery you just LOVE!

ForGodandCountry

I wouldn’t say I love it as much as it fits like a glove where progressives are concerned, as this meme so accurately portrays.
But then again you hold some emotional online grudge against me, so if anything it’s YOU who just loves to make this particular projection onto me.
Remind me….what was it we got into that makes your hate burn so bright that you would reveal so much nastiness in yourself?

Tonawanda

1) Your persistent go-to imagery of sadistic violence disgusts me, but that’s just me. Go back and check out your posts, and keep in mind that the sadistic imagery has also been aimed at QTH members, not progressives.
2) Your readiness to attack QTH members so readily. I realize there may be some explanation, such as the time you got drunk and attacked a member and drove her off. So, it is possible you are simply a drunk poster, a clueless asshole who needs to vent. It does concern me that you fly planes, or at least say you do.
3) Your use of God and Country on top of posts notable for their stupidity and nastiness. You are unaware of the fact, but you are incapable of understanding a discussion and responding logically or reasonably. You make people who love God and country appear to be the dumb, angry nitwits that leftists falsely portray.
4) Your totally witless and bizarre condescension, which reflects not only that you have zero comprehension on how to deal with human beings, but also zero understanding of your limitations. You are a shining example of the Dunning-Kruger affect.
5) I may be a minority of one, but I am especially disgusted and resentful how your special and distinctive approach to discussion with other people reminds me of the clueless assholes who ruined CTH.

Dora

Whenever my brother tells me he is progressive, I answer him with ‘so is cancer’.

Deplorable Patriot

You almost owed me a keyboard. 😉 I had a mouth full of San Pellegrino when I read that.

mollypitcher5

When will they pass out khaki uniforms for everyone? Oh..except muslims who will get an exemption.
Personal clothing choices is so classist and divisive.

Linda

socaristobo

One would not think that it would have been necessary for the President to point out the obvious to his staff.

Concerned Virginian

Notice the “(I hope!)” in POTUS’ tweet.

daughnworks247

That is a swipe to Pompeo, who hired Bill Taylor.

Dora

andyocoregon

Was this great or what? The evening news on the alphabet channels will be all outraged about this tonight.

ladypenquin

Yes. The commie MSM had to cover this. They’re not used to see the Republicans fighting back.

Katie

Neither are we.

kinthenorthwest

Good Speeches

ladypenquin

Just for fun. I believe this too!

GA/FL

PDJT (and the Mossad) have the DNA for a long time….. heheh

kinthenorthwest

Enjoy—
Schiff immediately walked out with witness.

Dora

So, he didn’t really run out. It seems that he brought the witness to another place to continue questioning her.

socaristobo

Louie, just curious, is your posse sitting on the floor in the SCIF eating fried chicken like your honorable opponents did on the House floor a couple of years ago? Do you have to pay a licensing fee to the Dems for using their tactics?

Sadie Slays

I think we all sensed on some level that Twitter influence was dominated by a small group of people, but a Pew
Research study actually did the math:
– 10% of users created 80% of tweets from U.S. adults
– Just 6% of U.S. adults on Twitter account for 73% of tweets about national politics.
– Only 22% of U.S. adults even have a Twitter account
– A majority of the prolific political tweeters (55%) say they identify as either “very liberal” or “very conservative.”
– Those who strongly approve of President Trump generated 25% of all tweets mentioning national politics. But those who strongly disapprove of Trump generated 72% of all tweets mentioning national politics. (They’re also responsible for 80% of all tweets from U.S. adults on the platform.)
Source: https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/23/just-6-of-u-s-adults-on-twitter-account-for-73-of-political-tweets-and-they-disapprove-of-trump

gil00

Fake media. Informative!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SOCIAL[IST] MEDIA is FAKE!!!

ForGodandCountry

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ladypenquin

OT Picked up on POTUS’ two tweets (calling out the GOP Never Trumpers, “Human Scum”) – Name of the post?
“The Big Ugly Begins”
ristvan says (from the Syria article):
October 23, 2019 at 5:18 pm
“End Endless Wars. A new MAGA sub brand added to Build the Wall, Cut Regulations, Tax Cut Reform, America First, USMCA…
Gonna be a 2020 landslide. Political Richter 9 earthquake.”

gil00

I just read it and my heart sank into my stomach. Its on. Going to hold on tight. About time.

ladypenquin

Yes, I think he is forewarning folks that some of the bad guys are in our own caucus, and he’s not talking trivial stuff. Takes a lot to use the phrase “human scum.”

scott467

“I just read it and my heart sank into my stomach.”
_____________
Ha!
My heart leapt for JOY!
FINALLY!
(I hope… we’ll see!)

gil00

Not in a bad way. Nervous anticipation for his safety plus its a war whoop.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

UNLEASH HELL!!!!
(You knew I was going to say it, right?)

TheseTruths

Well, someone needed to say it!

ladypenquin

Oh yes, of course!

ForGodandCountry

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Deplorable Patriot

Almost 550 comments, and I swear about 100 are on one argument.

andyocoregon

Why would you bring that up way down here?

Deplorable Patriot

Just to tick you off.

andyocoregon

Well, you failed.
So you’re admitting to being a narcissistic mischief-maker?

bakocarl

. . . and you did it so masterfully, although bottom feeding fish do have a weakness for all kinds of bait! Great response!!!

andyocoregon

Is that a fish hook in your mouth?

Deplorable Patriot

I’ve had lots of practice.

andyocoregon

All your life in fact, right?

pgroup

I think you need Sylvia and/or her shovel.
He won’t be happy until he gets the silent treatment.

Deplorable Patriot

Working on that.
Sylvia and her shovel…. Hadn’t considered that.

andyocoregon

You seem to be shoveling it all on your own without Sylvia’s assistance.

MAGA Mom

I am late to the party today — now I am curious and will have to scroll up!

Deplorable Patriot

Have an adult beverage handy.

andyocoregon

D.P. whines repeatedly about the religious discussion, but then she comes down here to get it going again.

MAGA Mom

Never mind – if you haven’t read it already, skip it.
I thought it was some interesting political discussion.
Uninteresting and boring – more divisiveness due to trolling comments re: Christians expressing religious thoughts. Express & then don’t take the bait. We have a childish attention seeking troll on that topic in our midst that needs to be ignored not fed and rewarded for such immature displays.
Never wrestle with a pig – you both get dirty and the pig likes the filth!

Deplorable Patriot

Precisely. I live with engineers. Same thing.

bakocarl

Unfortunately, I resemble that remark.

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, no. Not you too.

bakocarl

Aero E.

Deplorable Patriot

Ahh. My dad is a retired aero. McDonnell, NOT in missiles.

bakocarl

Martin Marietta then Lockheed Martin . . . Space Systems.

Deplorable Patriot

Mmm…. The competition. Mmmm.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

LOLOLOL!!! There went my drink! 🤣🤑
I commend you DP 😉 😎 😊👏👏👏

Deplorable Patriot

Slainte!comment image

andyocoregon

3 guesses as to who posted this B.S. comment earlier up the thread…..
“As a non-confrontational person, I get lost in all of it sometimes. Why people can’t just scroll past is lost on me.”

andyocoregon

At about the 1:50 minute mark, a protester is asked if he disavows Antifa violence? His reply is, “No, … I think violence is a useful political tool.”
That tells us all we need to know about progressives.

ForGodandCountry

Well of course.
These are the same people who love to say “One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter” in justifying the use of terrorism as a geopolitical tool. See: PLO/Hamas/Hezbollah etc.

Brave and Free

What’s the matter with Drudge? From gab and Andrew Torba
banned.video/watch?id=5d

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Not that this link works. I have NOT been able to see what this link actually is. ALWAYS comes up as an error.

Gudthots

Somebody leaned on somebody. I watched the interview and it was good. Showed a lot of respect for Drudge and the work he’s done. Exposed some advertising support changes. Hit him hard for being owned by Apple/Google now and questioned why he’s now in both of their App stores and why he’s pushing his apps so hard. Mentioned his dominance in the aggregator business and how Torba’s new GabTrends.com might be a more unbiased option.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks!!!

scott467

Whatever it was, the link is no longer working.

Brave and Free
Gudthots

They pulled the show.

andyocoregon

Judge Judy is human scum, too.
Funny she didn’t submit the current photo of her RBG hairstyle. I think it’s pretty easy to assume she’d love to be on the Supreme Court and RBG is her mentor. She wants Bloomberg as President. President Trump would eat him up in the debates.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/10/16/judge-judy-michael-bloomberg-presidential-race-2020-column/3984012002/

Deplorable Patriot

Sorry, FG&C.

bakocarl

Dolphin merely mistook it for a red MAGA hat.

Deplorable Patriot

Could be. Secretly, we NL people are definitely NOT rooting for Washington.

ForGodandCountry

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andyocoregon

How about those Washington Nationals tonight? 12 to 3. The Texans didn’t know what hit ’em. How a sloppy team like that got to the World Series is beyond me. LOL!

Deplorable Patriot

Thank you, Gov. Abbott.

ladypenquin

Thank God, this is happening in Texas, and not California.
No judge (or jury) should be allowed to cause such harm. Involved is a mentally ill woman (mother) who is being given “rights” that she should not have. This is what happens when a society accepts all depravity and decadence as normal.
There’s practically no longer a use for the DSM V – “Diagnostic, Statistical Manual of Psychiatric Disorders”. Psychiatrists have abandoned their profession – or at least the half who are in charge – they’ve made mental illnesses “normal” – a disaster.

ForGodandCountry

Correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that the “mother” is not the boy’s biological mother, whereas the father is.
Whatever the case may be, thank you Gov. Abbott!
(and thank you for posting this excellent news)

Deplorable Patriot

I believe you are correct in that.

ladypenquin

You’re right. I believe it’s a donor egg, but the “mother” has custody? Either way, Gov. Abbot and the AG must step in.

para59r

Had know idea mom was only the egg donor and is going to have the twin chemically castrated. So now doubling down on my suspicions by reposting my earlier comment from yesterday.
“Haven’t looked at this very closely but my guess is Dr. Pediatrician mom is using the child as a human guinea pig and is pimping out rights for other like minded to come in and do case studies on her kid while she is likely doing the same. Doing it for the professional notoriety and likely what ever money that also generates. This is one experiment that won’t be done double blind fashion but instead will get all the pokes, prods and stimuli that lab rats get as the subject is herded through moms maze toward a desired out come.”
Are there no laws against having a child where the purpose is for human experimentation?
This has obviously been thought out in advance. What’s in the best interest of the child seems to be secondary to this woman/these people.

GA/FL

Here is the little boy……he looks unhealthy, confused and deprived of love, peace and joy….dark circles under his eyes.

gil00

The woman is criminal. This little boy is doing the head gear to protect himself and abide by “mommy’s rules”. Shes tellung him he’s a girl…he has no idea except seeking approval. Its no different than saying to yourself “Im an idiot” Why? Because so and so said so.

andyocoregon

It’s child abuse.

NYGuy54

Off topic but I found a website which details the pay scales for Federal employees including law enforcement.
https://www.federalpay.org/
“FederalPay.org is a free public resource for United States Government employees. We have pay tables and pay calculators for all four major Federal Government pay scales and military service members, as well as a wealth of information on Per Diem rates, Federal holidays, a government employee database and more.”
Through 2017, there are 1,339,645 Federal employees over 375 agencies. The average salary is $69,344.22 (whoa). We spent $92.9 billion in total Federal employee compensation for 2017.
This all started because I wanted to find out who was in charge of GDP data at the BEA. Her name is Lisa Mataloni! And this website profiles her.
https://www.federalpay.org/employees/bureau-of-economic-analysis/mataloni-lisa-s
She started in 2005 earning $65,853 and by 2017 she earned $103,639.
Anyways lots of cool stuff in here. As an example….
Here are a list of the Federal departments, number of personnel and their budgets!
https://www.federalpay.org/departments
Private website with data gleaned from the OMB .It is pretty geeky but maybe one of you will enjoy this resource.

Deplorable Patriot

This is the open thread. There’s no such thing as being off topic.

ForGodandCountry

Relates directly to earlier thread convo about fed jobs being protected rather than “at risk”, resulting in bureaucrats who bring their personal politics into their workspaces.

NYGuy54

Anyways..back to my interest in GDP. The very first 3rd Quarter GDP estimate will be released on October 30th. Here are the upcoming economic releases
https://www.bea.gov/news/schedule

Deplorable Patriot

ForGodandCountry

Meanwhile, yesterday (or was it Monday?) a judge in NYC sentenced 2 Proud Boys…who apparently kicked some major Antifa ass….to 4 yrs in prison, each.
One set of rules for them, another set for us.

Deplorable Patriot

Never interrupt the enemy when he/she/it is in the process of self destruction. This chick is seriously trouble.
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1187164816449789952

ForGodandCountry

So we’ve gone from a full and vocal denial to an admission of guilt.
Let’s all hope this is a foreshadowing for what is to come for many other democrats in DC.

bakocarl

Of course, as most of us know, rules are meaningless unless they are enforced. And the level of enforcement all depends on whether there is an (R) or a (D) after your name.

pgroup

the sex relationship is (IMO) beyond the jurisdiction of the House rules since it was well underway before she won the election. It is NOT what the rule was intended to reach, which was a staffer coming to work for a congresscritter already in congress.
The sex scandal is for the voters to deal with. IMO the donkeys are using this situation in order to cover and distract the masses with lurid but inconsequential stuff.
The conservatives need to back off before this episode goes in a weird direction. Her lousy morals pale in the light of all the treason and pay-for-play crap going on in the Congress.

gil00

Lol!!!

Aubergine

Remember during the campaign, didn’t Trump buy the url for Jeb Bush’s name during the primaries?
When someone typed jebbush.com, it went to Trump’s campaign site!
Good times.

gil00

I think so. I enjoy the advanced tech savvy of POTUS’ team.

Linda

This is good news. Let’s hope something comes of it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent!

Deplorable Patriot

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Deplorable Patriot

[snort] Somebody has been watching way too much Quiet Man.

bakocarl

What an absolutely great film that is! Let’s hope Gaetz follows that up with a kick to the teeth.

scott467

“HERO MATT GAETZ: “We Gotta Stop Thinking We Can Use Marquis of Queensbury Rules Against Angry Pack of Rabid Hyenas””
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Finally….
Has Godot actually arrived?!? 😁

ladypenquin

This is almost too creepy to post. Hillary Clinton’s cackle laugh is indeed something one doesn’t like to hear.
Clinton is a She-Devil.

Deplorable Patriot

At least the debates are scheduled to be somewhere else next year. The PSAs we kept putting on FB for road closures were ridiculous.

gil00

https://twitter.com/steph93065/status/1187167112072065024?s=20

Plain Jane

Because D women want to be her toy. D men want to undo her bi-ness.

Cuppa Covfefe

The DEMONicRATS have put her there to normalize polyamory, infidelity, and total lack of principles and ethics. She is a prototype for what they want… and the deep state, no doubt, owns her…

Plain Jane

Much incite in what you say. Makes sense. The devil’s advocate in person.

Plain Jane

Oops. Much insight…lol

Deplorable Patriot

Spelling is highly overrated.

Plain Jane

TY. LOL

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

😂😂😂

TheseTruths

A Latino outreach campaign in Spanish for a U.S. election rubs me the wrong way. They might as well say, “You can come here (even illegally) and not assimilate. And then vote for us.”

Sadie Slays

MARK OF THE BEAST:
Report: Austin Homeless Being Implanted with Trackable Microchips
https://www.infowars.com/report-austin-homeless-being-implanted-with-trackable-microchips/
And here’s the source that Infowars cites:
https://www.biometricupdate.com/201909/id2020-and-partners-launch-program-to-provide-digital-id-with-vaccines

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, InfoWars (or one of their new bad hires) pulled a fake news on us there. The injectables is a SEPARATE issue, and definitely not in Austin. They’re using normal biometrics as the KEY, and storing the stuff in BLOCKCHAIN on the internet.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I had to dig through a bunch of stuff to find the truth on this. AJ needs to watch it, or he WILL earn the “fake news” label!!!

NYGuy54

Biometrics are the scariest thing. Facial recognition, fingerprint scanning….never do it. Of any sort. Even what appears to be a harmless game on Facebook. One step closer to Big Brother.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree. AVOID!
I’m a bit hypocritical on that recommendation, b/c (1) some biometrics were REQUIRED of me, so it’s water under the bridge, although I can still limit (beyond what the ChiComs have hacked out of various databases) who ELSE has it, and (2) the situation is even worse for me, in terms of trackability. I just live with it. Like I said, water under the bridge. SO much water, I am simply thankful I didn’t drown.

TheseTruths

Put this in the “good luck with that” category:
NYC Bar Calls For AG Barr to Recuse Himself From ‘Ukraine-Related Matters’ – Including Ukrainian Involvement in 2016 Election, Biden Crime Family
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/nyc-bar-calls-for-ag-barr-to-recuse-himself-from-ukraine-related-matters-including-ukrainian-involvement-in-2016-election-biden-crime-family/
“The NYC Bar said that since Bill Barr was mentioned in the transcript of Trump’s phone call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, he should not be allowed to investigate anything related to Ukraine, including Crowdstrike and the Biden crime family.”
LOL.

scott467

“The NYC Bar…”
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I would treat it as having the same authority as any other drinking establishment.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sorry, Dems – your FAKE ACCUSATIONS to try to GAIN RECUSAL to dump stuff back to TAINTED DOJ DEPARTMENTS are NO GOOD.

LM

Praying Medic
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Why did Adam Schiff say he doesn’t need the whistleblower anymore?
What if there is no whistleblower?
What if Schiff wrote The whistleblower complaint?
What if Trump knows?
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@realDonaldTrump
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Where’s the Whistleblower?

Plain Jane

I’ve been thinking there is no whistleblower from the start. Obviously I could be wrong, but no whistleblower fits right in Schitty ‘s MO, kind of like the “proof” he’s been spouting off about for how long.

LM

Just the possibility that this is true and that it will all come out is delicious.
I thought it might do us all a little bit of good to indulge in a tiny bit of hopeful glee.
😁

Plain Jane

I’m with ya LM. There is too much secrecy surrounding this whole contrived b.s. Rush says it is they way the Ds are campaigning. They have nothing to offer except to build hate and distrust. Fail!

Plain Jane

Regarding Grassely’s tweet about deep 6ing the investigation, ristivan at TCh says:
ristvan says:
October 23, 2019 at 8:07 pm
Grassley is showing his age and hence subsequent ignorance. Lets go over the basics yet again.
PDJT said NEVER AGAIN concerning Spygate. That promise is only kept if there are perp walks and convictions.
PDJT’s chosen instrument is AG Barr. We know that because of his publicly conferred declass power. NOT for us, for Durham grand juries.
We know from Barr congressional testimony that he knows there was spying on PDJT, the only question being whether adequately justified. He is pursuing that question on two tracks:
1. Horowitz FISA abuse, where he already has Nunes criminal referrals. When Horowitz agrees, is done. At least Comey and Yates down.
2. Durham EC predicate. And now we know via Ms. Powell that Barr and Durham went to Italy, got the Mifsud deposition, and got both his cellphones using UK SIM cards. Mifsud was western intelligence, not Russian as Mueller report said. Leads to MI6 leads to improper EC predicate. Game over. t least Brennan and Clapper also down.
This all starts VERY soon. Hence Dem frantic antics.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/10/23/senator-grassley-tweets-warning-about-fisa-investigation-holds-unique-perspective-on-deep-state-motives-for-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-7482475

Rodney Short

There is no way,and I do mean NO WAY I could even begin to do this.
For starters this dude enjoys getting inside your brain to much…
https://wgntv.com/2019/10/22/scariest-haunted-house-in-u-s-requires-40-page-waiver-doctors-note-safe-word/amp/
If you do haunted things this could be of interest to you,I dont do haunted things lol

scott467

This excerpt from the linked article might interest Wolfmoon:
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“How is Russ so good at playing make-believe? He says hypnosis is a great tool.
“When I use the hypnosis I can put you in a kiddie pool with a couple inches of water and tell you there’s a great white shark in there, and you’re gonna think there’s a shark in there,” he said. “And so, when you have that kind of power over people, and have them do and see things that you want them to see, then they can leave here thinking it really happened, and they’ll go to the authorities and say, ‘oh, whatever,’ and I have to come back and show the footage and say, ‘it didn’t go that way at all.’
“It’s saved me a thousand times.”
Over the years, Russ has been able to tap into the fears of everyone that’s come through the manor. He says he works each show around everyone’s individual fear, so it’s never the same show.
Russ says a common fear people share is water.”
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Sounds like mind-control / MK-Ultra-ish.

Rodney Short

Yeah Scott and the guy said he has 22 years military lol,he enjoys his job to much.
It is to bad we cant send him down into the basement of the White House to deal with the dems.

scott467

“It is to bad we cant send him down into the basement of the White House to deal with the dems.”
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At first I laughed at the idea 😁
Then I thought imagine if he could.
Then I thought… why couldn’t he be hired to freak-out, gaslight and otherwise mess with Devilrats… in the basement of the House… or anywhere… else?

Rodney Short

Brilliant.

scott467

Could be.
Need a ‘Go Fund Me’ page, and some way to record the reactions of the Dems, so it can all be posted on the interwebs for viral Halloween laughs 😁

Rodney Short

Adam Schiff and Ted Leiu go first followed by Wasserman Schultz’s

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. This is why I have been able to zero in on what Sidney Gottlieb actually accomplished. Nothing magical – just some highly unethical human experimentation, modern medicine, abused psychology, and extreme secrecy.
The FEARS (in fear-based hypnotic conditioning) don’t have to be elaborate, either. Nor do they have to be terrifying or troubling. THIS is one of the key points that allows the process (Gottlieb / 80’s-era drug / hypnotic MK) to be used surreptitiously on people and they walk away without a clue. And remember – in the case of “real MK”, we’re talking about benzodiazepine-assisted amnesia of everything surrounding the programming. The memories of the induction and programming are LOST just like dreams.
In the case of CA3, they needed to channel two people to not deviate from a script, and ultimately the legal defense of the institution would likely have been that the people did not deviate from the script (see how that works? – they LOVE reinforcing responses) – but the fact is, the people SHOULD have deviated from the script. And why did they NOT deviate? In one case for sure, and probably the other one – FEARS. An assortment of small, “seemingly normal-ish”, but irrational fears that only seemed “too illogical” in retrospect. FUTURE PROVES PAST. Very hard to describe, very hard to track – requires a certain view of time that’s hard to articulate to people, and is only possible with an extremely strong memory.
The problem is that this stuff is TOO MAGICAL. Gottlieb knew he had something brilliant – a true holy grail. They went to extraordinary lengths to cover it up, even the whole-cloth sacrifice of the project as a failure, using their ridiculous Senate kabuki. But think about the extraordinary pay-off they got from it – the ability to CHANGE HISTORY almost unseen, just like (IMO) “pencilneck”, who I believe did the due diligence of making sure that there was a functional “ad hoc” programming interface in humans from WAY BACK. We just hacked our way in.
They ALMOST got rid of Reagan. They ALTERED HISTORY with affirmative action. Just by TWO OPS in 1981. Who knows what else, but I think a LOT of stuff.
Like he said, hypnosis is a great tool. And that tool is a PIPSQUEAK next to REAL MK – where SCIENCE took the carnival act and made it SPY GRADE.
It’s too tempting. Think about it. Think about the TEMPTATION of this stuff. And THAT brings us back to Lanza’s psychologist and the teen girl patient who claimed he was raping her.
It had to be abused. It was only a matter of time.

scott467

“They ALMOST got rid of Reagan. They ALTERED HISTORY with affirmative action. Just by TWO OPS in 1981. Who knows what else, but I think a LOT of stuff.”
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There should be a way to get a rough estimate.
It looks like MK-Ultra began in 1953. Suppose it was operational by 1960. Anything that altered history would be like a ‘Black Swan’ event.
So figure out the frequency of ‘Black Swan’ events from 1900 to 1910, and from 1910 to 1920, and 1920 to 1930, etc., up to 1960. Get a baseline for how often ‘Black Swan’ events occur.
Then compare that data to the frequency of ‘Black Swan’ events occurring from 1960 to 1970, and 1970 to 1980, etc., up to the present day.
If the frequency of ‘Black Swan’ events is relatively consistent across the decades, and then there is a significant jump beginning in 1960 to 1970, and steadily increasing each decade up to the present day, that could certainly be an indication that something non-organic or unnatural is going on.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Interesting idea. It may work best with certain specific subsets of events.
There will be changes and jumps in such categories of events for other reasons, but we may still see some kind of statistical evidence.

scott467

“It’s too tempting. Think about it. Think about the TEMPTATION of this stuff.”
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And people (most people) will never believe it’s even possible, until they see it. I have a hard time believing it, and I spend at least some time reading about this stuff.
If you wanted to open peoples’ eyes to it, make a Hollywood movie that uses it as a major plot point.
Once the necessary percentage of minds are then prepped (no idea what percentage of the population the ‘necessary percentage’ is, but I’m sure that percentage is known), it just becomes a matter of public consciousness. Not the reality, but the concept, and how it would work, in theory.
Then declassify official government docs, showing that the theory is actually reality.
The same or similar two-step procedure could be used to prepare the population for nearly any classified subject matter deemed too jarring for public consumption.
As always, the problem is ‘what is too jarring’, and who decides.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good points. Although, I think it’s much more likely that there would be Hollywood cover-up by “fictionalization”.
The difference between a portrayal that makes something plausibly real, and a portrayal that makes something plausible but clearly unreal and (important) the likely source of any leakage on the REALITY, is pretty small. Hollywood is very good at creating fictions which seem CLOSE to promotional, and which take advantage of speculative minds, but are actually detracting, and thereby protect the realities.

TheseTruths

I read about that, and it’s not just about ghosts and spooks. You sign a waiver to allow them to do things to you, like lock you in a coffin with live cockroaches or even poisonous spiders, or hold your head under murky water until you feel like you’re going to drown. (In the case of the spiders, it is your responsibility to remain still and not get bitten.) It’s actually dangerous, and it goes on for hours. You can beg to be allowed to leave, but it’s up to the personnel to decide if you can leave immediately or if they can make you stay much longer. You sign away your freedom and rights, and it’s an injurious, traumatizing experience.

gil00

Sounds to me like its a sadomasochist rpg. Someone recording it for gratification purposes i bet.

Rodney Short

I watched the videos and this guy is definately someone you dont want in your head.
When I was 11 my sperm donor abandoned me in a haunted barn to go have his affair in the parking lot.
I was left alone and pushed into a place a didn’t wanna go.
3 seniors from the high school volunteered to scare the shit out of everyone and I was the main target.
I dont do haunted things anymore because I do get physical,not by choice,it just happens.

MAGA Mom

I am so sorry that happened to you. Sounds genuinely awful and made 10x worse because your father chose to leave you by yourself in that experience. you did not deserve to be treated that way. One thing I have learned is that the way a parent treats a child is a reflection of who the parent is not a reflection of who the child is. Every child deserves a loving parent who will do their best. So sorry for that experience!
I don’t do anything haunted – why choose to live through an unpleasant experience?!

Rodney Short

Thank you MAGA Mom,I now think back upon the experience and think it made me stronger because it taught me what my boundaries were.

andyocoregon

Boo!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree – traumatizing.

andyocoregon

I heard it lasts 7 hours. What kind of idiot pays money to subject theirself to masochistic torture like that?

Plain Jane

Me either, but the waiver is probably just hype.

TheseTruths

The waiver is absolutely necessary because of the things I wrote in my description above, and more. It’s a truly dangerous experience. Anyone with health conditions or allergies to bee stings or the like (or even a healthy person) could be in very real and perhaps life-threatening danger. The guy has been sued many times but has prevailed because of the waivers.

Plain Jane

Somehow I’d rather him be a con artist than actually that diabolically inclined to know how to instill that much fear into people that he really needs waivers. 🙂

TheseTruths

Yeah, it’s weird. He sounds like a clean-cut guy who doesn’t smoke, drink, or do drugs, and he has spent a LOT of money putting this thing together (and each experience is different). But he doesn’t charge admission except food for his dog(s). It’s hard to know his real motivation.

Rodney Short

Like Leslie Nielson in Creep Show,”How long can you hold your breath?”

Plain Jane

He’s probably too old to be working on a thesis about fear.LOL
He actually sounds like a sadist.

Plain Jane

I imagine you re right now knowing he first hypnotizes peeps. What moron would give him permission to be hypnotized.

scott467

“What moron would give him permission to be hypnotized.”
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All the morons would.
That’s why they’re morons.
And there’s no shortage of morons… 😁

Plain Jane

You’re right. HC voters prove that.

Gudthots

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Gudthots
Shebythesea

So beautiful. 🌸
Thank you.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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