Dear KAG: 20200101 New Year's Open Thread

It’s Midnight somewhere. And mood music for the day that no one understands, but we all sing anyway….

Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.

Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. There are, however, limits to civility, and those limits are strictly observed here. We are all on the same team. No personal threats, baiting, name calling and other behavior your mother and grandmother told you not to do while calling you by your full name is allowed. This, seriously, could happen.

There is absolutely no reason for infighting to result in burning down the tree, house up in the branches and all. Yes, it can be rough to temper speech. However, those who would like to slog it out from the comfort of the seat behind your keyboard, Wolf has provided a venue known as the UTree. Please, take it there.

And now for some house keeping:

There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day 2019. Please, review these rules from time to time. When the gaps between the floats at the Rose Bowl Parade get bigger would be alright.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike. FG&C asks that you wash your hands and take some vitamin C. Daughn suggests you whip the sugar with the shortning (butter) before adding the flour.

Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative.

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Psalm of the day, Number 67.

Let God arise, and let his enemies be scattered: and let them that hate him flee from before his face. [3] As smoke vanisheth, so let them vanish away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God. [4] And let the just feast, and rejoice before God: and be delighted with gladness. [5] Sing ye to God, sing a psalm to his name, make a way for him who ascendeth upon the west: the Lord is his name. Rejoice ye before him: but the wicked shall be troubled at his presence, Who is the father of orphans, and the judge of widows. God in his holy place: [7] God who maketh men of one manner to dwell in a house: Who bringeth out them that were bound in strength; in like manner them that provoke, that dwell in sepulchres. [8] O God, when thou didst go forth in the sight of thy people, when thou didst pass through the desert: [9] The earth was moved, and the heavens dropped at the presence of the God of Sina, at the presence of the God of Israel. [10] Thou shalt set aside for thy inheritance a free rain, O God: and it was weakened, but thou hast made it perfect.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Here we go, 2020!

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Happy New Year, Dep Pat, and thank you for being here! God Bless and an Amazing 2020! <3

LM

Happy New Year dear friends.
❤️

cthulhu

The Happiest of Happy New Years to all!

gil00

Are you out of CA yet?
I just read our state gets to exempt itself from the federal exemption on light bulb standards…so we have to use the expensive ones and cant buy incandescents.

cthulhu

Alas, no — but that’s one thing that is going to make 2020 a Happy New Year for me.

Teagan

Giloo…you’ll just have to slip over the border and bring the “illegal” lightbulbs back.💡💡…..hopefully your neighbors won’t turn you in to the light bulb sheriff.
Maybe you can start a side business as a bulb runner and get as rich as Joseph Kennedy, Sr. did. 😉

Nor'easter

Happy New Year to all my fellow Treepers!

pgroup

Is this the year when we get to destroy our enemies?
Asking for a friend. 🙂

Gail Combs

“Is this the year when we get to destroy our enemies?”
YES!
I really think it is.
Ozzytrumpster dropped a Rudy video last night:
*

Wolfie responses:
WOW! Rudy is DROPPING THE BOMBS. And I get the feeling that THIS was his mission ALL ALONG.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So I thought I would remind folks of a whole loaf of ‘bread crumbs’ that could be very important in 2020.
FIRST One of the following tweets in that thread reminds us of JUST WHO Rudy really is.comment image
Rudy is the guy who set the LEGAL precedence in RICO cases!!!! Is he the one who will be the Prosecutor in front of the military tribunals? Is that what he is signaling??
….
On January 12, 2017, just before the inauguration, Rudy Giuliani is named Trump’s Cyber Security Advisor. [THINK CROWDSTRIKE!] The Left has lots of fun busting his Cyber Chops, link then forgets him as he falls off the radar for over a year. [So just what was Rudy up to for all that time?)
HOWEVER General Flynn HAS those chops but he is booted leaving behind Ezra Cohen-Watnick and Derek Harvey, both of whom are later fired by H. R. McMaster. Derek Harvey is a longtime intelligence analyst who had been close to Michael Flynn. Ret. Army Col. Harvey is a Senior Executive Service-member of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Derek Harvey has been on Nunes’ staff since September 2017. Ezra Cohen-Watnick winds up as the national security adviser to AG Jeff Sessions.
President Trump can hand out a security clearance to ANYONE he wishes to WITHOUT going through the Deep State wringer. This means he can have a completely secret, non government group do the sleuthing.

the security clearance system itself is an expression of presidential authority. Its scope and operation are defined in an executive order (EO 12968), and its terms can be modified by the President at will….
*https://fas.org/blogs/secrecy/2016/11/clearances-presidential/

President Trump plus AG Sessions can get year long FISAs (Think two hop rule) without going through the Corrupt FISA court.
Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing are close to President Trump and Victoria Toensing is the *whistleblower’s lawyer on Uranium One.
https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355937-fbi-informant-blocked-from-telling-congress-about-russia-nuclear
Larry Klayman is Dennis Montgomery’s lawyer
*https://www.newsmax.com/LarryKlayman/dennis-montgomery-cia-nsa-whistleblower/2017/02/16/id/773999/
Important Discussion OT
wheatietoo said on August 31, 2018

Pres Trump issued an EO in March 2018 that expands the US-UCMJ to include civilians.
*https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2018-amendments-manual-courts-martial-united-states/
Because this could affect matters of national security, Regulations w­ere amended:
*https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOD-2017-OS-0032-0003
This Supreme Court ruling was referenced, regarding civilian “enemy belligerents” who have acted against their country:
*https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/317/1/
The President’s EO becomes effective on Jan 1st, 2019.
…it looks to me like it covers all those who Took an Oath, to serve and protect this country.
There are a lot of civilians who took The Oath, as a part of their employment in our govt.

*https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/08/30/dots-connecting-quickly-bruce-ohr-worked-with-andrew-weissmann-while-nellie-ohr-worked-for-fusion-gps-in-2015/comment-page-2/#comment-5877819

The Senior Executive Service (SES), which includes everyone above the permanent civil service grades, for example Peter Strzok are regarded as having Flag ranks (SEE WIKI).
All the Congress Critters and the people like JOHN KERRY and HILLARY CLINTON that OH!Bummer appointed also took the oath.
Was Giuliani goading the Cabal about the WIRETAPPING OF A PRESIDENT???…

“Us lawyers have talked about it, we don’t believe it’s true,” Giuliani told The Daily Beast. “We think it’s going to turn out to be untrue because it would be totally illegal. You can’t wiretap a lawyer, you certainly can’t wiretap his client who’s not involved in the investigation. No one has suggested that Trump was involved in that investigation. So they’re going to wiretap the lawyer, his client, and his client the president of the United States? I don’t think so, not if they want to stay out of jail. Disclosing a wiretap is a federal felony. I never took ‘em home when I was a U.S. attorney.”
…“Look at all of the bad faith we’re seeing here. And whether this wiretap story is true or not true, it’s bad faith to leak it. We should find out about this with a notification from the Justice Department, they’re wiretapping the President of the United States, they’re wiretapping a man talking to his lawyer and then they want us to cooperate? We’re not suckers.”
Giuliani said that he found out about the wiretap news from NBC News’ report, which cited “two people with knowledge of the legal proceedings,” and not from Cohen himself. He believed someone in the Justice Department was behind the leak.
*https://www.thedailybeast.com/giuliani-i-dont-believe-that-michael-cohen-was-wiretapped

Apparently Avenatti met with Preet Bahara earlier..

Hmm. So here’s what Avenatti said after NBC’s initial Cohen wiretap report but before its MASSIVE correction. @dailycaller *https://t.co/Yqs4l0uRNZ pic.twitter.com/HK6rkWEL3B [Removed]
— Chuck Ross (@ChuckRossDC) May 3, 2018 *http://i.magaimg.net/img/382i.jpg [Removed]
“I don’t think we’re going to find out that this was confined just to email or voice wiretaps. My understanding is that they were also wiretapping text message communications for the weeks leading up to the FBI raids,” Avenatti said on MSNBC, where he appears frequently.
“I’m not speculating; that’s a fact,” he added.
Avenatti believed investigators obtained information from the wiretap suggesting Cohen planned to destroy evidence relevant to the case, Daniels’ lawyer told MSNBC. And because of that, he said investigators decided to carry out a raid of his properties. “I also think that it will ultimately be disclosed that during these wiretaps, the FBI learned of means by which Michael Cohen and others were going to potentially destroy or spoliate evidence or documentation,” Avenatti continued.
“That’s what served as the predicate or the basis for them to be able to go in and get the warrant to search the home, the office and the hotel room of Michael Cohen.”

Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) May 3, 2018

NBC News: #Mueller allies at #SDNY explained we weren’t supposed to let anybody know about the illicit surveillance. Let’s change that “wiretap” to “pen register”…sounds so much less like illicit surveillance on the President. Sorry about that… ”
*pic.twitter.com/nzsfkk53i4

🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽🔽
IMPORTANT!!!
THIS IS WHY THE MUELLER SC DRAGGED ON FOREVER…
It was the excuse used to WIRE TAP A PRESIDENT!

🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼🔼
Justbill reminds us on May 3, 2018

Under the Pen Register Act and as amended by the Patriot Act, no warrant is needed. Just a court order that it is LIKELY information gathered is relevant to an ongoing criminal investigation.
Also, the term pen register and trap and trace are interchangeable. The pen register tells you what number he is dialing. Trap and trace tells you what number is calling him.
Now under the Act, it also covers email header info except subject line. It covers IP addresses. And it covers ENTIRE content of sms text messages. There is no time limit as to how long they can monitor. Just as long as there is a criminal investigation ongoing.
And that is the problem. There was no crime, so there can be no criminal investigation ongoing. This a continuation of a counterintelligence investigation. Thee Pen Register Act is being applied against the law. In this case, the penalty is a misdemeanor and up to a year in jail. But hey, what’s an extra year added to the twenty they’re going to get anyway. Or should get anyway.
*https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/03/with-cat-out-of-bag-nbc-attempts-surveillance-obfuscation-phone-wiretaps-becomes-phone-monitoring/comment-page-2/#comment-5331274

Gail Combs

And to put a smile on your face….
This from Jenny R. (OT)

My uncle used to work with Giuliani back in the day when Rudy was but a humble prosecutor (one that really took the hammer to organized crime in NYC by the way), even went up against him a few times; that breezy, “honest to a fault” thing is a well practiced façade.
Don’t let appearances fool; the dude is ruthless and knows where all the bodies are buried and who put them there in NYC. He’s not a good one to try and put one over on…you have a very high chance of losing — there’s a mean, take no prisoners son of a gun behind that happy go lucky manner.
He is however, in the words of my late uncle “a pretty decent guy”.

RUDY the BARRACUDA! — GO GET’EM RUDY!

pgroup

The E.O. refers to Annex 1 and Annex 2 but they are not included on the page. Do you have any idea where to find them? I skimmed the E.O. but could not see where it included civilians under the UCMJ so I am assuming it is in the Annexes.

kalbokalbs

Happy New Year…2020 is going to be great;-)

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

May this be the year that Justice finally arrives!

cthulhu

Justice???
I’m hoping for the return of the Copybook Headings.

gil00

Happy New Year to everyone. New year and new decade. Heres to 2020 political eyesight thats clear, focused, and doesnt miss the slightest detail.comment image

phoenixrising37

Happy New Year all who post, lurk at this wonderful tree, a sanctuary, a refuge…
forward we go into 2020…

phoenixrising37

Thank you Dep Pat… for this FIRST opening of the new decade, the new year… and thanks for all your wonderful posts of 2019, your time and effort, your patience and kindness.
We love and appreciate you… hope the New Year brings you and yours joy and happiness. God bless you.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!!!

phoenixrising37

Well it’s a new decade and a new year, but FAKE NEWS is still FAKE

Linda

Let’s hope this is the year that the Fake News dies a horrible, much deserved death (figuratively, of course).
Happy New Year everyone. It’s still 2019 here, but it won’t be long now.

phoenixrising37

2nd that motion.

mollypitcher5

haha..I got home and forgot that it’s already Jan 1, 2020 on the other coast . I said the same thing on the bottom of yesterday’s thread

pgroup

Last year’s fake news. 🙂
We can just say “That’s so 2019 – get with the program.” whenever one of the idiots does their BS news again.
Or, “2019 called and wants its fake news back.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

mollypitcher5

We already know this game. “failed to correct” isn’t part of the equation. It’s purposeful disinfo.

phoenixrising37

Deplorable Patriot

Well, it’s the New Year here, and the big fireworks are over. The dogs did not go insane and I am headed for zzzzz. Long day tomorrow.
Happy New Year y’all. ‘Night.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you for your service! Sleep well!

wheatietoo

A few words from our President:

slowcreekno

Happy New Year to everyone here in the Tree!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Happy New Year, slowcreekno!!! <3

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This lady who GRABS THE POPE and PULLS HIM TOWARD HER….
(1) what nationality?
(2) what language?
(3) what is she saying?
(4) what do you think of this?

wheatietoo

Slapping her was bad enough…but it was his bitch-face afterward that is disturbing:comment image
.
H/t CitizenFreePress

mollypitcher5

His mask slipped.
The woman seemed intense. The others around her were in the usual Pope euphoria but she looked like she had something to say or ask ?
hate to say this but that little girl on somebody’s shoulders freaked me out..lol…I’ve looked at her as much as the Pope drama

Teagan

Noticed that, as well…it’s almost as though it was photoshopped. Doesn’t really look like a child to me.

mollypitcher5

That’s what I thought too! looks like an adult , maybe with some issue of some sort but the hat is babyish. weird

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks! What I’m pursuing here is the possibility that this was some kind of discreditation – particularly right now from China (see Pompeo’s tweet). She may be Chinese, Korean or Japanese, and still working a commie op. She might not even KNOW it’s a commie op, if she’s just a predictable useful who has a friend who set her up to do that.
Francis, as a useful idiot, is not regarded as a “made man” by the commies. He is to be poked, prodded, tweaked, fooled, pushed around, lured, cajoled, and only “read in” on lies and manipulations.
If the commies wanted him to look bad and have no moral authority over what is happening in China with Christian prisoners right now, they would use theater to disempower him.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Remember that part of this could have set up Francis to expect something ELSE and react badly. False security warnings to get people to overreact work just like bomb threats to make people leave their belongings unattended.

mollypitcher5

If I was a guy like him I’d be worried about some poison prick during a handshake but I’m the ever suspicious tin foiler!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We do have no idea if she scratched him or did something unseen. Those are taught arts.
If she did it, it would be to get a reaction, most likely – not to harm him.
Note that she pulled him close very strongly while not looking strong. That’s also setting off my spidey senses that she’s not just anybody.

Tonawanda

I do NOT like Francis but the situation here is probably more complicated than people are assuming.

wheatietoo

Interesting theory…and quite plausible, given the devious and diabolical things that the ChiComs are doing, worldwide.
On the other hand, Francis is a ‘friendly’ who embraces the commie ideology.
So…you’d think that the ChiComs wouldn’t do anything to sabotage a fellow traveler.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, one would think the ChiComs like Francis right where he is. The problem is that China is extremely sensitive to open criticism. Too many weak Westerners knuckle under to the ChiComs, but then try to protect their own appearance and status in the West by mouthing off negatively about China.
Oddly, Obama understood this, so he HID his surrender to China, and then spoke little ill of them. They treated him like the puppet he was.
Trump stands up to China, but remarkably lets them keep face.
Well, sort of. He outsources the black eyes.
I’m not sold on the idea that this is a discred op – but I’m keeping that theory in play.

mollypitcher5

True that but there could be any number of deep seated beefs that a person could harbor a grudge with him about.
His face afterward..anger,betrayal,fear ? Hard to say. Maybe he’ll dust off the Popemobile . Might be a good idea, his new buds the muslims aren’t always so trustworthy either

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s a rough world, and in Francis I see a useful idiot who may be waking up to it. The skids were greased for him on the way up – nothing could go wrong – but things could be different now. Particularly if he’s not as useful any more, or as useful as somebody else.
Saint Greta seems to have more pull in the Church of Climate. The GODS and Pachamama favor her, it seems.

wheatietoo

HAPPY NEW YEAR, everybody!
How about some dancing:
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHfmCB9_trQ&w=640&h=360%5D

mollypitcher5

That never gets old..love it.
Perfect for New Years 2020!

wheatietoo

IKR?
For some reason, I always associate this video with New Years.
And yes…it never gets old.
😏🤩

wheatietoo

Happy New Year to the brave Firefighters in Australia!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

wheatietoo

Linda

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HELLO 2020!!!

ForGodandCountry

Ha!
Aren’t we all supposed to be drowning right now because the poles have all melted?
Asking for some climate scientists.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!
“Bu-bu-bu-but THERE’S NO TIME!!!”
Said the CLIMATE COMMUNIST SYMPATHY SHILLcomment image

Deplorable Patriot

In a region between 384 and 614 feet above sea level…sure. We’re in worse trouble when hurricanes come up the Mississippi.

wheatietoo
TheseTruths

Dave of the X22 Report says the situation in Iraq had been planned for several months by the Deep State and that they decided to go ahead and play their cards now. He doesn’t say how he knows this, and it might be pure speculation, but it does make sense. They are trying to get Pres. Trump into a war because war is what they always want and because it would distract from the revelations that are coming. Also, I think it is calculated to hurt Pres. Trump in the eyes of voters.
Dave says the Patriots have been expecting this and were ready. I expect all sorts of sabotage this year (Happy New Year! 🎉) — more efforts to get us into war; attempts to hurt/collapse the economy; false flag attacks; any scandals about Pres. Trump and those close to him; more allegations that he is unfit to lead because of his demeanor, mental condition, unstatesmanlike speech, tweets, etc. I know Pres. Trump, Q, and the team are ready.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. The FAKE NEWS MEDIA will attempt to DRIVE US using all of these.
A combination of IGNORING THE FALSE MESSAGE while DESTROYING THE FALSE MESSENGER will be our task, EVERY DAY.
#FakeNews
#FakeEntertainment
#FakeScience
#FakeImpeachment
all because they’re
#ThePartyOfLies
#SovietDemocrats
#ClimateCommies

socaristobo

Unfortunately for the Deep State they did not understand that the situation in Iraq would remind all voters of Benghazi. When the two administrative responses are compared the Dems lose again. Tired of winning?

pgroup

… and just to make certain the public thinks about Benghazi, VSGDJT puts “Benghazi” in tweets and mentions it off the cuff in mini-speeches / photo-ops.
Bonus Side Effect: possibly public clamor to re-open Benghazi investigation (to get HRC).

wheatietoo
wheatietoo

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Happy Q Year Everybody!!! 🥳🥳🥳
🦋🦋🦋🤸‍♀️🥂💜🥂🤸‍♀️🦋🦋🦋

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Happy Q Year!!! <3

mollypitcher5

ohh truth bomb incoming!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This woman is such a POS!!!

mollypitcher5

lol…( i think they might be reading more into it than his family ancestry but it’s a got some double meaning maybe too)

wheatietoo

wheatietoo
michaelh

Zambia – another great African nation brought to its knees by commies.

Dora
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He’ll be gone by the end of 2025. Bank on it.

duchess01

Verse of the Day

“Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;”
Ephesians 5:25 (KJV)

duchess01

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duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

duchess01

Wednesday Blessingcomment image

patfrederick

Happy New Years Duchess!
hope you feel better soon!!
Have a Blessed Day!

duchess01

Happy New Year, Pat! Oh, me, too – gonna run its course – back to bed – you have a blessed day, too!

patfrederick

stay warm and take care of yourself!!

duchess01

Yes ‘um – pray for sleep

duchess01

Jesus Loves Babies…Pray for the Unborncomment image
Jesus Loves the Little Children – Pray for the Little Childrencomment image
Jesus Loves You – Come to Himcomment image

Nor'easter

Happy New Year Duchess!

duchess01

Happy New Year to you, too, Nor!!!

Deplorable Patriot

This is the verse from that treatise that doesn’t get nearly enough play.

wheatietoo

.
Uh…why didn’t they pull over and cover the window?
😏😕
It makes no sense.

Dora

It dies make sense – unfortunately.
https://twitter.com/M2Madness/status/1212125406452736001

Dora

oops – does

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Can’t make this shit up. Obama, Soviet Tool, enabling Iranian mullahs.

patfrederick

Happy New Year to all!
May we all find peace and joy in the new year!

Nor'easter

Happy New Year patfrederick!

patfrederick

Happy New Year Nor’easter!!

patfrederick

Daughn?…ever heard of the China Hustle? judge recuses from Hunter Biden’s case & a new accuser (financial) enters the fray.
FTA
Shokin’s witness statement was submitted to the court as part of Joel Caplan’s motion this week to try and become a party in Roberts’ paternity case with Biden.
He claimed in Monday’s filing that he wanted in on the case so he could get his hands on Biden’s bank account records in order to prove he allegedly received $1.5 billion from Chinese companies that ‘hustled Americans out of their life savings’.
Caplan told Judge Don McSpadden to ‘follow the money’ and in a 30-page filing, lays out how he was allegedly swindled out of 10 years of his life savings in a ‘multi-billion dollar stock scheme known as the China Hustle.’
Caplan, who filed papers from Jerusalem, Israel, claims many Chinese nationals made fortunes from the ploy, which involved presenting fake company documents and claiming they were genuine investments when they were actual frauds.
Source: DailyMail
https://clashdaily.com/2020/01/plot-twist-judge-recuses-himself-in-midst-of-hunter-biden-paternity-case-and-a-new-accuser-emerges/

patfrederick

these are great!! thanks for posting!!
those quail are soooo tiny!!!
and that ibex? wow! never saw one–those are some impressive horns!!!

wheatietoo

IKR?
I didn’t know baby quail were that tiny!😀

ForGodandCountry

hummingbird chicks…comment image

Deplorable Patriot

Aww. So precious.

Dora

He is sorry. Call me naive, but I believe him. It’s easy for a person to lose his cool when in a crowd like that. I’m sure I would. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. It won’t be the first time.

patfrederick

I would normally expect a “handler” of sorts to be at his side, and if an encounter became too long or too anything, the handler would step in. this makes him look petty and the look of disgust on his face in that photo is palpable.

Deplorable Patriot

That’s just it Now that’s done, it cannot be undone. And the mask slip…he’s not the first on I’ve seen do that. Long story of why I was in a meeting with a member of a BIG NAME American political family – as in if I told you the name of the person, you’d pretty instantly know which family – but this congenial, affable, known as a happy man…. The mask slipped while no one was looking. Just happened to get a glance of it.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

He’s now apologizing and trying to save mask.

ForGodandCountry

“He’s now trying to save mask by apologizing.”
Fixed.
No charge.
😁

wheatietoo

patfrederick

OMG…LMAO…”his fallen brothers”…sacrificing future generations…this guy is GOLD!!!

ForGodandCountry

LMAO!!!
😂😂😂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

LOL, as I cringe!
In the last replay it looks like the ball (er., to be clear I mean the soccer ball) would have missed anyway!

Deplorable Patriot

My brother the English Premier League fan wants this guy to be hired by NBC. “He put his balls on the line.”

patfrederick

cool video of all of Branco cartoons in 2019…
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/every-branco-cartoon-of-2019/

Gail Combs

😘 THANK Q! 😍

patfrederick

you’re welcome!

patfrederick

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Another damned irresponsible Trump tweet!!! Someone needs to take his twitter account away from him before he costs us the election or gets us into a war!!!
Whoops, just channeling every never-Trumper and Demogogue ever.
Disregard.

Deplorable Patriot
Dora

patfrederick

go Alaska!! other states need to take up the fight as well!
FTA
Goldman Sachs had announced that it would no longer underwrite Arctic drilling operations. “We will decline any financing transaction that directly supports new upstream Arctic oil exploration or development,” the firm said in a statement. “This includes but is not limited to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.”
In return, Alaska’s Republican governor, Mike Dunleavy, announced the state had removed Goldman from one contract to pay oil and gas drillers, and that he would re-examine the state’s willingness to do business with the investment bank at all.
In his letter to Goldman, acting revenue commissioner Michael Barnhill was explicit:
This [Goldman’s] policy is in direct conflict with the goals of the State of Alaska and threatens Alaska’s oil and gas industry, one of the State’s primary revenue sources and economic drivers. In response to Goldman’s pledge the Governor’s Office has directed the review and where possible without financial or project progress impairments, the removal of Goldman from business relations with the State.
https://amgreatness.com/2019/12/29/the-last-frontier-strikes-back/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Well, that does it for me. Goldman Sachs is the FUCKING ENEMY.
They’re NOT AMERICAN. They’re SOMETHING ELSE.

Dora

patfrederick

this is disturbing…not saying all of these people are innocent, but police finding loopholes to obtain cash is disturbing…
FTA
It’s after midnight at mile marker 204 on westbound Interstate 70 near Foristell. St. Charles County police officers watch for suspicious cars. Once they identify a car, they begin to look for a minor traffic violation to justify a stop. “Failing to keep right” is a common one.
After pulling over and questioning the motorists, police take them to a nearby towing company, Superior Towing, just off the highway at 11 Elaine Drive in O’Fallon. There, often in the middle of the night, police begin to take apart the vehicle and interrogate the occupants. They are looking for large amounts of cash, signs of a drug connection and inconsistencies in the motorists’ stories.
When Fleck, a trained police dog, smells marijuana on wads of cash, the officers advise the suspects that the best way to avoid years in prison is to sign a legal waiver surrendering ownership of anything in the car, including the money. Many readily sign and are released on a traffic ticket. The money — often tens of thousands of dollars — goes into police department coffers.
https://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/st-charles-county-police-pressured-suspects-private-tow-lot-hand-over-10000-cash#stream/0

Deplorable Patriot

St. Charles County. No kidding. Where people won’t live on the other side of the Missouri River because of crime. And the police are stealing from them.
Yet another story that tells me all is not what it’s reported to be out there.
And, honestly, I don’t know anyone who has been pulled over for not driving on the right side of the road. On this side of the Missouri River, you don’t because of the number of exits, especially when they are on the left side of the highway.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And, honestly, I don’t know anyone who has been pulled over for not driving on the right side of the road.

Colorado is bad in this respect…but I’ve seen much, much worse in Missouri, like a line of cars in the left lane piled up behind some slowpoke…with the right lane wide open.
Why no one just passes the schmuck is beyond me, unless Missouri puts people in jail for passing on the right.
Colorado used to have signs that read “Slower Traffic Keep Right” but then, with much fanfare, began to replace them with “Keep Right Except To Pass” which was, at least, more direct and to the point than the preceding (many people would justify staying in the left lane as long as they were doing the speed limit with the old signs). I may even have seen a trucker get pulled over for violating the second sign once; I passed him on the right doing the speed limit while he was ten under, and HE got pulled over.
I like what I saw in Oklahoma; signs on the LEFT shoulder reading “Do Not Impede The Left Lane”

Deplorable Patriot

I’d have to look next time I’m on the road to Columbia, Jeff City or somewhere past St. Chuck, but I don’t remember seeing signs like that.
Of course, it’s been a while since I’ve driven out there. In the STL region, like I said, you drive according to the exits. I mean coming west from Illinois over one specific bridge, you have to be in the left lane or you end up in the middle of downtown or on I-44.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, I was talking about the signage in Colorado, not in Missouri. Sorry for the confusion.

Deplorable Patriot

No, I get it.

Deplorable Patriot

The ore I think about it, the more this p!$$&$ me off. The smug authorities in St. Charles County regulate everything out the wazoo. Having events in their parks, you have to have health department sign offs. Nobody else around here does that. And then they start complaining when those bridges that EVERYBODY pays for and they abuse fatigue faster than the replacements are scheduled to be built. And, of course, we can’t extend the mass transit system out there with commuter lots because, well, people from North County and city are going to take it – with surveillance cameras EVERYWHERE – out there to rob them. If it doesn’t happen on this side of that river where people have a lot more money, what makes them think it’s going to happen on that side.
Sorry, this one touched a nerve.
From the article:
“Basically they are told we can take you to jail; you won’t see your family for years,” Gelfand said. “The coercive elements are shocking. … They don’t know their rights. … They are in unenviable situations, they are scary, they are intimidating … this is literally highway robbery by law enforcement. The idea that law enforcement should somehow have the right to take things from people and keep them, that is insane.”
Last year, St. Charles County officers employed this civil asset forfeiture tool to stop 39 motorists along I-70. They seized $2.6 million, records show. That was the biggest haul of any police agency in the state.
No state criminal charges were filed in any of the 39 cases, according to documents filed with the Missouri state auditor. Twelve of the cases occurred after midnight; almost half involved motorists with Hispanic or Asian surnames.

patfrederick

the thing that bothers me is that no charges are filed. so there are “possible” criminal charges, but give up your money and you go free? sounds like extortion or blackmail to me.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Basically they’re just robbing mules and dealers. “War on drugs” means “take their drug money” and all they get is a traffic ticket rather than investigating, tying up the money as evidence, etc., etc.
People get addicted to easy money. The first time the department got FLUSH on a traffic stop without the effort of investigation, the LESSON WAS TAUGHT. Let them off easy and take the cash.

patfrederick

what’s next? they target hookers? if there’s a crime, they need to follow thru.
marijuana is legal in several states and traveling with large amounts of cash is not a crime…
stealing is stealing to me…and just cuz you’re stealing from a “possible” criminal doesn’t make it right.

Gail Combs

Pat it is even worse than you think. Unless ALL the money in your wallet is BRAND NEW chances are it has the scent of drugs on it. The drug dealing in this country is so pervasive most if not all used bills have gone through the hands of drug dealers or users.
This is what they count on. They KNOW many of these people, esp tourists from out of state, have money on them and it is tainted.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

No money in hookers – they’re safe! Although PIMPS is another story!
Yup. That Constitution was just getting in the way with all that “innocent until proven guilty” stuff.
The “War on Drugs” was insidious. A lot of unconstitutional garbage got put into play as part of it. THEY KNEW IT, TOO.

Gail Combs

This happened to my Dad in upstate New York in the late 1960s. He was almost home and changed lanes without signalling. They hauled him 90 miles back to Syracuse BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM,tossed him in jail and DISMANTLED his car. They found NOTHING!
Mom took him to the doctor when he finally got to call her to take him home. The doctor was livid and photographed his injuries. BUT they could find NO LAWYER willing to take the case. Luckily the car was a company car so my parents did not have to eat the cost of the distruction of a BRAND NEW CAR.
Realize my Dad was 63 at the time and did not even have a traffic ticket to his name. He never swore and hardly ever drank. So when these Asshats complain about the Police ‘targeting’ blacks I LAUGH IN THEIR FACES. Dad was blond and blue eyed.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Disgusting.
So who says the war on drugs doesn’t occasionally benefit the people who fail to enforce it?

Tonawanda

Cannot help but think that our country would be much better off spiritually and psychologically today if TPTB had not killed off the Roseanne show.

patfrederick

people getting smarter…leaving NY…LOL
FTA
New Census Bureau data released this week reveals that ten states in the U.S. saw their populations decline from 2018 to 2019. New York saw the largest decline with nearly 77,000 residents fleeing the state, helping to drop the population by about 0.4 percent.
There are many takeaways here, not least of which is that King Cuomo is not just an awful leader & Governor, but also dishonest, deceptive, uninspiring, unmotivated & unaccountable. Individuals, families & businesses should be running towards NY, not away.https://t.co/j29tQSdv2X
— Lee Zeldin (@RepLeeZeldin) December 31, 2019
Likewise, Illinois lost about 51,250 residents over the last year, while West Virginia’s population declined by about 12,000 residents. About 11,000 residents fled Louisiana, 6,200 residents left Connecticut, 4,900 left Mississippi, 4,700 left Hawaii, more than 3,800 left New Jersey, about 3,600 left Alaska, and about 370 left Vermont.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/31/new-yorks-population-falls-by-77k-residents-steepest-drop-in-the-u-s/

Gail Combs

I just hope they don’t vote DEMOCRAT in what ever state they move to.
That was what happen in NH. People from Boston would move to NH to escape the high taxes and then complain because the town didn’t have all the goodies they were used to so they VOTED demonrat. HOW can supposedly intelligent people NOT CONNECT Taxes = Public services??? (Not to mention corruption and graft)
Tony Heller had a story about a woman in Colorado voting YES for every bond issue (parks, bike trails…) and then complained that her taxes had increased and were so high now she had to move out of the area. 🙄 Who the heck did she think was going to pay for all the goodies???

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Tsunami : T is silent.
There’s no damn reason for it to be. It’s not like we can’t form the “ts” sound; I did it once reading this sentence aloud. But apparently most English speakers’ brains seize up trying to put that sound at the beginning of a word.
Now by contrast the UN is not brainless, but they need to be seized and tossed out. Not just out of NYC but out of any and all human society.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – I love it!!!

ladypenquin

Happy New Year, Q-Treepers. Needed a break through the holidays, so did only reading.
A discussion in yesterday’s thread had me searching this morning. Came across old articles regarding the outing of Hillary Clinton and their connection to corruption noted in 2016 with HSBC, Hong Kong and Shanghai Banking Corporation, and I just saw them in the news again. I think the financial corruption the Dems are involved in is so massive, so huge – intricately woven into many of our institutions – it literally could destabilize the country if the threads are pulled incorrectly.
From CTH Daily 2016 Thread:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/16/september-16th-2016-presidential-election-open-discussion/comment-page-1/
freepetta says:
September 16, 2016 at 1:19 am
http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/09/hsbc-case-blows-lid-on-clintons-offshore-empire/?AID=7236
The fix was in from day 1. All this corruption has to go!
psadie says:
September 16, 2016 at 1:31 am
Clinton’s son-in-law specialized in off-shore holdings…uh-oh.
Reply
freepetta says:
September 16, 2016 at 1:32 am
You mean the son in law whose father spent years in prison?
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ALEX says:
September 16, 2016 at 2:21 am
He lost a ton in Greece. He is a true sleaze like the Ford people. Vulture globalist so playing a game
https://www.bing.com/search?q=chelsea+clintons+husband+and+greece&go=Submit&qs=n&form=QBLH&pq=chelsea+clintons+husband+and+greece&sc=1-35&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=B15640ACF8DE4966B4C881933606760F
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JohnP says:
September 16, 2016 at 7:45 am
“A search of the ICIJ database of the Panama Papers for WJC Investments LLC produced a list of hits that included 19,372 offshore entities, 3,396 officers, 215 intermediaries and 316 addresses. The database also produced 38,934 offshore entities associated with WJC Investments Group LLC, plus 50,407 offshore entities identified with WJC International Investments LLC, as well as 68,188 offshore entities identified with WJC International Investments Group LLC.”
Bill Clinton, a poor boy from Arkansas, left the White house “broke” and now has an empire that would take an army of accountants to audit.
Bill2 says:
September 16, 2016 at 11:35 pm
Comey’s brother works for the Clinton Foundation
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My thoughts:
Did we know that Comey’s brother works for the Clinton Foundation? No wonder James Comey engaged in sedition and treason. He had to protect the corrupt crime syndicate. It must be an enormous web to unravel. For those who are impatient (not here) and who doubt what Barr, Durham are doing, I think it’s helpful to revisit some of the stories which were surfacing in 2016 surrounding Hillary’s corruption. This must be massive in scale. That’s why she said they’re all going to hang if she isn’t elected!
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/10/desperate-clinton-lashes-out-at-trump-supporters-basket-of-deplorable-americans/comment-page-8/#comments
Lots of good comments which are quite useful – reminding us just how vicious, how sick, and frankly, that it must have been a miracle that Donald Trump won in 2016. Despite using the words, Evil, Powerful, Rabid, etc. it’s easy to forget what we were up against then, AND why it’s so important to review and think about how those are the same forces in play (and have been for 3+ years) against DJT and the People.
This is what Barr and Durham are up against.

Gail Combs

Yes, it is good to reflect upon the MASSIVE EVIL President Trump and we face as we enter this New Year and realize just how far we have managed to come.
It is like trying to defuse an intricate ticking time bomb that was set to blow up in the near future.
http://www.arenapursuits.com/images/galleries/eqvc0q2016-Bomb-06.jpg

patfrederick

good to see you again Lady P!

ladypenquin

Thanks, Pat. I think the impeachment evil bummed me out. We went to NYC to see dgt for Christmas, so it was a good time to stop for awhile – though I did read Q-Tree and some twitter. Gave my mind a rest.
I do believe things are going to break.

patfrederick

i believe you’re right…
patience is not my strong suit…but I can see good things happening all around the country and that gives me comfort while I wait for the indictments…

Teagan

Good dig, LP….interesting about Chelsea’s husband.

Sue Mcdonald

I have been resting from heart attack so have been mostly reading and figuring out the instant pot my daughter and son gave me for Christmas. I have discovered I can cook edible food!
As far as the Clinton cabal goes the white hats have one shot at this so I say take the time to nail them to the gallows. When Q says traitors everywhere that’s an understatment.hmmm….3 sides to the pyramid,I now wonder if cankles and Bill are on Soros side of it.

kea

Feel better!!!

Sue Mcdonald

Oh I feel much better!Thank you

kea

Glad to hear it.

ladypenquin

Yes, Sue. have followed your story, glad you’re doing better. Agree. I believe Barr et al are doing what needs to be done.
Chelse’s husband, Comey’s brother, Biden’s son, Pelosi’s son, Kerry’s son, Romney’s son – they’re in this together. Going to be explosive when she blows.

Gail Combs

TheseTruths says:
“Dave of the X22 Report says the situation in Iraq had been planned for several months by the Deep State and that they decided to go ahead and play their cards now….”
I think he is correct. John Kerry was the one doing the coordination between the Cabal and Iran. Note the TIMING!
This got to be a major mess but I think you can see the ‘Three D Chess’ Moves and Counter Moves.
😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
December 5, 2019 — John Kerry Endorses Biden For President!
😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲😲
February 07, 2019 – Adam Shitty defends hiring Abigail Grace. Grace worked at the National Security Council until 2018.
*https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/429006-schiff-trump-should-be-a-better-employer-if-concerned-staffers
May 09, 2019 — Trump says John Kerry ‘should be prosecuted’ for meetings
In a radio interview in September, Kerry said he had met with Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif “three or four times” since leaving office.
President Trump then let’s us know it is NOT JUST MEETING! [think FISA]

“You know John Kerry speaks to them a lot, and John Kerry tells them not to call.
That’s a violation of the Logan Act, and frankly he should be prosecuted on that.” — President Trump

Aug. 12, 2019 — Gossip blower complaint, submitted by an intelligence community official.
August 2019 — Sean Misko, an NSC aide until 2017, joined Schiff’s committee staff in August, the same month the whistleblower submitted his complaint. Misko is a real sleasy corruptocrat.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/adam-schiffs-staff-includes-2-aides-who-worked-with-whistleblower-at-white-house
September 26, 2019House Intelligence Committee Releases Whistleblower Complaint

…“This complaint should never have been withheld from Congress. It exposed serious wrongdoing, and was found both urgent and credible by the Inspector General.
“This complaint is a roadmap for our investigation, and provides significant information for the Committee to follow up on with other witnesses and documents. And it is corroborated by the call record released yesterday….
*https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=708

October 11, 2019“The whistleblower is blowing up in the Democrats, MSM, Leftists, Never trumpers etc. faces. The POS is scared!” — fleporeblog
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/10/11/news-roundup-pdjts-presser-whistleblower-is-blowing-up-in-their-faces-sleepycreepy-joes-working-relationship-with-the-whistleblower-economic-train-fox-news-fake-poll-real-polling-data-old/
October 23, 2019 — Military leader of Syrian Kurds thanks President Trump for Cease Fire.
………. Polling numbers on Sham-peach-mint start heading south for the Dims.
Oct 24, 2019 · U.S. Attorney John Durham’s ongoing probe into potential FBI and Justice Department misconduct has transitioned into a full-fledged criminal investigation.
October 27, 2019 — Al-Baghdadi Raid successfulcomment image
October 28, 2019 — Burr told Fox news about his Trip to Italy. “Barr said. “So I initially discussed these matters with those countries and introduced them to John Durham and established a channel by which Mr. Durham can obtain assistance from those countries.”
October 29, 2019 Somewhere around this week attacks on US targets in Iraq begin.
DECEMBER 10, 2019“In total, there have been at least nine attacks against US targets in Iraq in the past six weeks, according to Radio Farda. At least one of the attacks has been linked to Kataib Hezbollah, a Shi’ite militia with ties to Iran which has been blacklisted by the US.” link
December 18, 2019 — House votes to impeach President Donald Trump…
Dec 19, 2019 — Nancy Pelosi signaled she might not send the impeachment articles to the Senate…
Dec. 27, 2019“One U.S. civilian contractor was killed and several U.S. service members and Iraqi personnel were wounded in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base in Kirkuk hosting Coalition troops, on Dec. 27 at 7:20 p.m. (Iraqi time),” the U.S.-led coalition said. “Iraqi Security Forces are leading the response and investigation. Further information will be released as it becomes available.”

Gail Combs

Oh and I missed this one:
Again an October ‘surprise’

A reminder: Just 2 months ago, Iran’s Supreme Leader was openly calling on Iraqis to take over the US embassy in Iraq.
Did you know Badr Corps chief Hadi Ameri, who led today’s raid on the US Embassy in Iraq, was once invited to the @WhiteHouse by @BarackObama?
FYI: Ameri & the Badr Corps get their salary & orders from Iran’s dictator Ali Khamenei.

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ForGodandCountry

Wow.
Did not know this.
Marriage has been used for time immemorial to solidify connections.

Gail Combs

I thought I would put up some of the ‘highlights’ from last year. It is interesting to see how the Iran mess and the Sham-peach-mint intertwine with moves and countermoves.
How President Trump keeps track of the whole mess AND WINS is really incredible.
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Chris

There is some early JK and Iran connections in this link
https://t.co/SMwQXOd9pz

ladypenquin

How my perusal started… was searching for a way to order Keln’s wonderful Les Deplorable mugs. Got two in 2016, and would like two more. No success with the old link to that domain site. But found the SD’s great article on Keln’s Les Deplorable image that went viral in Sept, 2016.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/09/16/congratulations-keln-brilliant-les-deplorables-image-thrills-national-audience-w-video/
It’s interesting to wander through the post… so much excitement and hope.
Anyone know if Keln still has those mugs available?

Gail Combs

Keln was hanging around Reddit The_Donald so you might look for him there.

ladypenquin

I’m not on Reddit, but if someone else is, maybe they could check and see if he is around. I know after the election he kind of went quiet at CTH, and rarely commented.

ForGodandCountry

Ahhhh the heady days of CTH before PDJT was elected.
What a year that was.

ladypenquin

Wandering through a couple of those articles – IMO, the site is radically different now than 3 years ago. Not only has the tenor of the articles changed but the posters themselves, except for a small number are gone. Instead, participants either lost their way or were Never Trump to begin with. I’m astounded by the emotions cascading in the threads – when it used to be reasoned and logical input.
BTW, accidentally caught an exchange involving Ristvan.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/12/30/hubris-peter-strzok-argues-in-court-his-first-amendment-rights-were-violated/comment-page-1/#comment-7707015
ristvan says:
December 30, 2019 at 7:19 pm
A test. 4 of 4 past comments went to moderation. One got bailed rapidly, 3 not. I used no known possible trigger words in any. So this very simple test post is just, WP autopilot or CTH ID filter, since I am beginning to factually disagree on the fringy things here. Been ID filtered on many websites in the climate wars over the past decade, since am a well known extensively published skeptic. So lets see if this posts or is moderated.
ristvan says:
December 30, 2019 at 7:20 pm
Well we have an instant answer. CTH is ID moderating me now for sometimes disagreeing.
ADMIN RESPONSE: You are not being moderated for “disagreeing”, you are being moderated for targeting other commentators with your remarks. READ THE RULES: targeting or ridiculing other commentators is not permitted.”
MY thoughts:
I’ve never seen Ristvan be anything but intellectually polite to everyone. Somewhat dismaying that he’d be noted for such behavior. There are quite a few other commenters who make incredible derogatory remarks – they frankly are demoralizing to #MAGA. I just don’t get it. It’s okay, everyone has the right to their opinion, but the Ristvan situation surprised me.
We’ll all know soon enough who the good guys are, and who the bad guys are. The fun part? I believe POTUS has the Lefties, and what’s left of the Uniparty, so snookered, they’re going to melt form shear shock.
But then, I’m an optimist at heart. Still POTUS’ tweets remain quite enlightening. Don’t you all agree??? 😂

Gail Combs

Rud Istvan is polite but he can be intellectually ‘devastating’ He and I went at it tooth and nail a few times during the ‘Climate wars” but neither of us were nasty or impolite and neither of us were banned.
This Reflects very badly on OT and not on Rud.

ladypenquin

True. He’s tough, but I’ve never found him to be personally attacking. Certainly nothing compared to the nastiness exhibited by others in their remarks OT.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

ristvan is welcome here – and he will never be banned. I disagreed with him here once (very slightly and gently, I thought) and he stopped posting here, in part (I’m sure) because he knew his posts would get copied to here.

Gail Combs

Rud Istvan is smart enough to realize his time is better spent at CT since it has a much wider audience. He would also realize we do not need his help as much.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Agreed. But he is rapidly wearing out his welcome with management there. That doesn’t seem as smart, frankly, unless the place has gotten to the point of making his message impossible on the platform, and he actually has to push back.
If there is any truth to what SD and the mods said, then the following is reasonable.
If he has to stay there, then he might want to just start posting his comments as top-level opinions and dropping all forms of reply and reference to whose view he is rebutting, or even that it’s a rebuttal.

GA/FL

SD and the Mods have very high irritability levels. It’s like walking on eggshells – or severe PMS, Menopause or Constipation over there.
They are also not social or spiritual conservatives.
WQTH is the complete opposite! A real REFUGE! Real Honest to GOD Conservatives!

michaelh

I remember the state GOP apparatus trying to “make room” for the Tea Party in 2010, only to reject social conservatives in favor of “economic conservatism” thinking it would be a bigger unifying platform that could allow the conservatives and libertarians to have common cause. Well, it worked, and they scuttled the social conservative agenda entirely and worked ineffectively against the left. And guess what? The “economic conservatives” were able to find a common cause – with the Neo-liberal left including the Clintons! The radical left loves to criticize HRC’s economic record of being too in bed with Wall Street interests like Goldman Sachs. But it is astonishing the degree to which the Tea Party movement was subverted by the party apparatus time and time again.
Now it is much clearer to everyone that the “economic conservatives” were not “conservative” at all but selling out the interests of Americans at every opportunity – it was just a cynical power game that blunted all the force and impact of conservatism while enriching the establishment ruling class.
But for years all the economic orthodoxy from every quarter and every side was “free trade”. No conservative, NONE, could talk about economic policy without talking free trade. Granted that there were a number of really good economic analysis coming out during that time – in so far as they contrasted with the radical socialist policies of the Obama Administration, they focused on the fundamentals. But they certainly had NIL understanding of trade – yet simultaneously everyone knew there was something deeply wrong and broken with our internal trade particularly with China.
Meanwhile the social conservative issues CONTINUE to get the short shift by an establishment that cares nothing about the moral character of the nation, without which the nation not only cannot thrive but will not survive. The establishment, like the Whigs of old, is not explicitly secularist, but they are still secular. The Democrats were the pro-slavery party and the Whigs were the “we won’t take a stand on slavery” party. Today’s GOP are the Whigs all over again. If it were up to me the GOP as it exists now would be completely swept away replaced by a party like the Old Republican Party that actually understood that our nation rises or falls on the moral character of her people.

GA/FL

Since Old Testament times – ‘social’ ‘liberalism’ has failed every time – and brought about GOD’s displeasure, loss of security, attacks by pagans, captivity, and many other woes.

rayzorbak

We are in the process of replacing the GOP with the…….
T Party!
(Trump Party)

Hoofhearted

While that may well be true …. It is not a good long term future strategy to build a platform based on the continued successes of one person. IMO God raised up DJT to serve a pivotal role for a time and for a purpose. He will raise up others (and is now) by using VSG DJT to shine light on the evil that currently exists and how it can be defeated. But people and people within gov’t structures have to step up and perform to a higher calling.

ladypenquin

Michael, glad to see your response. It was your excellent comment last night regarding info from OT which prompted my search this morning – producing the Hong Kong Bank info from 2016, and that little nugget of Comey’s brother being on the board. Not only Comey’s brother’s involvement, but Chelsea Clinton’s husband involved with offshore holdings.
BTW, you the kind of person who’d I’d envy (in a nice way) – the guy who can produce the 10-page term paper, while I’m working of 2 pages. You also have an extraordinary ability to use words any judiciary would appreciate.
BTW, your analysis regarding the ignoring of social conservative issues is spot on.
Too many people thought (or pretended) they could have the “economics” without the moral compass and moral foundation this country was founded upon. OTOH, I believe Q-Treeper types realized that President Trump knew that morality had to take it’s place at the table – else all would fail.
I also believe he will get there.

michaelh

Thanks LP, that means a lot to me coming from you 🙂 I was thrilled this morning seeing that you had found great link info for HSBC from Sep 2016… all the pieces really are coming together. I’m hoping Wolf weighs in on that soon! I’d love to do some more data mining in those old comments from CTH (and other sources). I’m slowly building out a rig that could do it.

piper567

GA/FL, your comment ab walking on eggshells is spot on.
When I found myself rewording comments over there, so as to not get banned…this was when people I cared ab just seemed to disappear…I wondered what I would do if I lost the CTH connection…
Just by grace one day I enquired after an individual, worried ab their health, and a poster told me ab THIS site!
I checked there the next day, innocently wishing to thank that person, and my question and their response were gone: poof!
I do not contribute much here, but I lurk daily, and I honesty have no adequate way of expressing my gratitude to wolf for giving us this opportunity to again express ourselves freely.
This is a wonderful community, and through it I have not only learned much, but have come to recognize many individuals who are now quite dear to me.
From my heart I wish you all the best possible New Year!!!

GA/FL

On the contrary, you do contribute a lot here. I look to click on your comments. Please know you are valued.
We are all so grateful that Wolfmoon created this site! He is a most gracious host and so generous to invite other awesome authors. It was a great day when he teamed up with Flep and we were blessed to have a News Round Up!

piper567

GA/FL, I agree…a great day, indeed!

ForGodandCountry

To one and all….

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This year we RE-ELECT the greatest President of our lifetime, re-take the House (Jim Jordan new Speaker), and keep the Senate. 😎
But for now, best wishes to you and your’s for health, wealth, peace, joy…
….AND declass + DS/cabal indictments!!comment imagecomment image

ForGodandCountry

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kea

Add a few more years onto it to make them scream more. Like 10 more years or Trump 4 ever!!!

patfrederick

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patfrederick
🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

They Gone!

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Looks like Obama and Kerry have failed too! 😂
https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1212375073249611779?s=20

Gail Combs

I like this comment:
#Queen Isabel ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️
@kathleentamu

Hashed al-Shaabi is an Iranian militia leader and you ppl still list this as demonstrators. They’re insurgents bought and paid for by the Obama Admin. And they were ordered to leave bc the US Marines were about to hand them their asses.

I think she has that correct.

GA/FL

There is no Øbama ‘administration’ – there is only the Øbama treasonous illegitimate interference orchestrated by Ø, $0r0$ and Valerie Jarrett.

phoenixrising37

I agree with you Gail…
Also think she just handed some folks their arses… 😉

patfrederick

started out as 12…ballooned to 450 under Obama…cutting back now…downsizing the NSC
FTA
The downsizing will be carried out by consolidating positions and returning officials to agencies and departments such as the CIA, the State and Defense departments and the military.
Mr. O’Brien noted that the NSC had a policymaking staff of 12 in 1962 when President Kennedy faced down the Soviet Union during the Cuban missile crisis. During the 2000s and the George W. Bush administration, the number of NSC staff members increased sharply to support the three-front conflict in Iraq, Afghanistan and the war on terrorism.
However, it was during the Obama administration that the NSC was transformed into a major policymaking agency seeking to duplicate the functions of the State and Defense departments within the White House.
“The NSC staff became bloated during the prior administration,” Mr. O’Brien said. “The NSC is a coordinating body. I am trying to get us back to a lean and efficient staff that can get the job done, can coordinate with our interagency partners, and make sure the president receives the best advice he needs to make the decisions necessary to keep the American people safe.”
In the Obama administration, NSC officials wielded enormous power. NSC staff members were known to telephone commanders in Afghanistan and other locations in the Middle East with orders — a violation of the military’s strict chain of command, said military officials familiar with the calls.
“I just don’t think that we need the numbers of people that it expanded to under the last administration to do this job right,” Mr. O’Brien said.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/31/robert-obrien-cuts-national-security-council-staff/

Gail Combs

“….In the Obama administration, NSC officials wielded enormous power. NSC staff members were known to telephone commanders in Afghanistan and other locations in the Middle East with orders …”
YIKES! No Wonder THEY THINK THEY RUN THE COUNTRY and got their panties in a wad when President Trump ignored their COMMANDS.

patfrederick

precisely…
government employees cannot be fired apparently (or easily) and they just get reassigned to some other agency, function…start sending these jokers to Alaska or Frog Butt, Wyoming…get them out of DC…

Gail Combs

Send them to Attu Island to keep an eagle eye on those dastardly Russians.
While there they can clean up the WWII garbage.

…Attu Island is overdue for some spring cleaning. Seventy years after World War II, the island is still littered with shards of old Coke bottles, lead-based batteries, leaking fuel drums and unexploded artillery….
https://www.ktoo.org/2013/02/19/attu-island-bears-the-industrial-scars-of-war/

patfrederick

great they can establish a cover as a GREEN group cleaning up the landscape…LOL

PeteC

ATTN: TO GAIL COMBS !!!
There are two leading philosophers of Freemasonry—19th Century, Albert Pike, “Morals and Dogma”; and 20th Century, Manly P. Hall, “Lectures on Ancient Philosophy” and “The Lost Keys of Freemasonry.”
(HALL) “Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity—an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect. …The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of ‘free and accepted’ men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most august fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcanum arcanorum [a secret or mystery].” (L. A. P., p. 409)
So what is the “secret or mystery” of the inner circle of Freemasons not necessarily known to the outer circle, the visible society???
(PIKE) “…the Prince of Darkness…made Adam, whose soul was of the Divine Light, contributed by the Eons, and his body of matter, so that he belonged to both Empires, that of Light and that of Darkness. To prevent the light escaping at once, the Demons forbade Adam to eat the fruit of ‘knowledge of good and evil,’ by which he would have known the Empire of Light and that of Darkness. He obeyed; an Angel of Light [Lucifer] induced him to transgress, and gave him the means of victory; but the Demons created Eve, who seduced him …” (M. & D., p. 567).
Understand, Gail?! The Garden of Eden truth was inverted—ELOHIM (God the Creator) is cast as the Prince of Darkness (with Demons) by Freemasonry; and the Serpent (Lucifer, Satan) is the Angel of Light!!! Good is Evil—and Evil is Good! This is “Luciferism”!!! This is the secret or mystery of Freemasonry!
(PIKE) “…Lucifer, the Light-Bearer! …Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!” (M. & D., p. 321)
(HALL) “When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands…” (L. K. of F., p. 48)
Pretty straightforward, Gail—and YOU wonder how one of the latter degrees of Masonry could contain a secret blood oath sworn to the Angel of Destruction (Abaddon)??? And by the way, not too appreciative of your post the other day implying that I was somehow being less than honest, or embellishing my “personal experience”!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR1

PeteC

ATTN: TO GAIL COMBS !!!
There are two leading philosophers of Freemasonry—19th Century, Albert Pike, “Morals and Dogma”; and 20th Century, Manly P. Hall, “Lectures on Ancient Philosophy” and “The Lost Keys of Freemasonry.”
(HALL) “Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity—an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect. …The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of ‘free and accepted’ men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most august fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcanum arcanorum [a secret or mystery].” (L. A. P., p. 409)
So what is the “secret or mystery” of the inner circle of Freemasons not necessarily known to the outer circle, the visible society???
(PIKE) “…the Prince of Darkness…made Adam, whose soul was of the Divine Light, contributed by the Eons, and his body of matter, so that he belonged to both Empires, that of Light and that of Darkness. To prevent the light escaping at once, the Demons forbade Adam to eat the fruit of ‘knowledge of good and evil,’ by which he would have known the Empire of Light and that of Darkness. He obeyed; an Angel of Light [Lucifer] induced him to transgress, and gave him the means of victory; but the Demons created Eve, who seduced him …” (M. & D., p. 567).
Understand, Gail?! The Garden of Eden truth was inverted—ELOHIM (God the Creator) is cast as the Prince of Darkness (with Demons) by Freemasonry; and the Serpent (Lucifer, Satan) is the Angel of Light!!! Good is Evil—and Evil is Good! This is “Luciferism”!!! This is the secret or mystery of Freemasonry!
(PIKE) “…Lucifer, the Light-Bearer! …Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!” (M. & D., p. 321)
(HALL) “When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands…” (L. K. of F., p. 48)
Pretty straightforward, Gail—and YOU wonder how one of the latter degrees of Masonry could contain a secret blood oath sworn to the Angel of Destruction (Abaddon)??? And by the way, not too appreciative of your post the other day implying that I was somehow being less than honest, or embellishing my “personal experience”!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

PeteC

ATTN: TO GAIL COMBS !!!
There are two leading philosophers of Freemasonry—19th Century, Albert Pike, “Morals and Dogma”; and 20th Century, Manly P. Hall, “Lectures on Ancient Philosophy” and “The Lost Keys of Freemasonry.”
(HALL) “Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity—an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect. …The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of ‘free and accepted’ men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most august fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious arcanum arcanorum [a secret or mystery].” (L. A. P., p. 409)
So what is the “secret or mystery” of the inner circle of Freemasons not necessarily known to the outer circle, the visible society???
(PIKE) “…the Prince of Darkness…made Adam, whose soul was of the Divine Light, contributed by the Eons, and his body of matter, so that he belonged to both Empires, that of Light and that of Darkness. To prevent the light escaping at once, the Demons forbade Adam to eat the fruit of ‘knowledge of good and evil,’ by which he would have known the Empire of Light and that of Darkness. He obeyed; an Angel of Light [Lucifer] induced him to transgress, and gave him the means of victory; but the Demons created Eve, who seduced him …” (M. & D., p. 567).
Cont.–

PeteC

Understand, Gail?! The Garden of Eden truth was inverted—ELOHIM (God the Creator) is cast as the Prince of Darkness (with Demons) by Freemasonry; and the Serpent (Lucifer, Satan) is the Angel of Light!!! Good is Evil—and Evil is Good! This is “Luciferism”!!! This is the secret or mystery of Freemasonry!
(PIKE) “…Lucifer, the Light-Bearer! …Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual, or selfish souls? Doubt it not!” (M. & D., p. 321)
(HALL) “When the Mason learns that the key to the warrior on the block is the proper application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his Craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands…” (L. K. of F., p. 48)
Pretty straightforward, Gail—and YOU wonder how one of the latter degrees of Masonry could contain a secret blood oath sworn to the Angel of Destruction (Abaddon)??? And by the way, not too appreciative of your post the other day implying that I was somehow being less than honest, or embellishing my “personal experience”!!!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Gail Combs

So, if I read this correctly we are both correct.
There is a Free Mason group who are highly ethical Christian people and within that group is a Cabal of nasty SOBs. Sort of like Skull & Bones, is an undergraduate student society at Yale University.
Actually when we look at our entire society we see the same pattern. A small evil cliche in each group… Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Catholic Church, Lutheran Church, American Chemical Society, Organic Consumers… These people then work to grab the reins of power and subvert the entire group.
G. Edward Griffin goes into the buying of control of the transmission centers of culture. link
My problem is painting the entire group with a broad brush and the Masons have been repeatedly targeted as if they are the ONLY group. This is NOT helpful in dealing with the problem.
………..
My Friend, who I think reached the same levels as you, was in the normal Free Mason group. You, possibly by the signals you were intentionally giving out, was selected to be shunted into the group within the group.
How in Hades we are going to disentangle these powerful SOBs from all our different societies WITHOUT destroying everything, I will leave to President Trump.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Here is an example.
Bill Ivey sent an email to John Podesta. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3599
This is what JUST ONE of these SOBs is involved with.
BIO of Bill Ivey

….From 1998 through 2001 Ivey served in the Clinton-Gore administration as Senate-confirmed chairman of the National Endowment for the Arts, and in that capacity is credited with both increasing the agency’s budget and restoring good relations between the NEA and Capitol Hill.
Bill Ivey is a trustee of the Center for American Progress, and was a Team Leader in the Barack Obama presidential transition….
Ivey has extensive experience in the music industry.  He was director of Nashville’s Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum for more than two decades, and was twice elected chairman of the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences. He is a four-time Grammy Award nominee. He is past president of the American Folklore Society, and today serves the Society as Senior Advisor for China.
http://globalculturalstrategies.com/bio/

So let’s not go scorched earth. If we do we will destroy everything.

Teagan

Many in my immediate family were active in the various branches of Masons…and would be astounded and horrified about the so-called cabal aspect. I, too, was a Rainbow Girl, the young women’s club sponsored by the Masonic Lodge and we were an active service club and a rural version of a “finishing school for young ladies”…basically comportment and social graces.
Unless my memory is faulty, we never had any sessions on globalism or subversion….much more concerned about how to sit down wearing hoop skirts (days of state centennial) without it flying over our head.

Gail Combs

Oh and Pete? I am an Agnostic although I certainly can ID EVIL when I see it!

PeteC

Gail—fruit of the poisonous tree! The inner circle poisons the outer circle, the outer circle is the growth of the inner circle!
Anyone who understands even basic Freemasonry, is confronted with their adherence to “universalism”—that all religious books of all faiths are welcomed on the altar of Freemasonry AS TRUTH.
The York Rite is supposedly the Judeo-Christian leg of Freemasonry (a very loose Christian theology, just enough to deceive!). Most the Masons I know who are concerned about the appearance of their Christian faith, belong to both the Scottish and York Rite.
Jesus Christ said—“I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6). His meaning is very clear and very exclusive—He does not include Mohammad (Allah), Buddha, Confucius, Hinduism, et al. Only One Way…One Truth!
Masonry/the Shrine is all about “good works”—it is in essence a religion of good works (a humanitarian group).
Gail, you are agnostic (and that is fine by me!); thus, my Scriptural perspective is basically a mute point to you. Nonetheless —“But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved)….For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.” (Eph. 2:4-5, 8-9).
Good works cannot save an individual—God’s grace and His free gift through faith are not compatible with works! “And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace.” (Rom. 11:6a). If salvation was based upon good works, nobody would be saved!!
Man’s “ego” (which is unrighteousness, wrapped up in “self”), small or great, is behind every good work!

rayzorbak

Pete….
I agree 100%
Freemasonry is Satanic…
as is the Skull and Bones.
Might as well be Muzzies(Another Satanic group)

Deplorable Patriot

Freemasons are called on to serve two masters. TECHNICALLY, Catholics are not allowed to be masons, and haven’t been for almost 300 years.There are a number who have tried it, and have come out of the lodge warning against it.

rayzorbak

This comes to mind:
Revelation 18:4
I heard another voice from heaven, saying, “Come out of her, my people, so that you will not participate in her sins and receive of her plagues;

Deplorable Patriot

Speaking of ancient Rome….

PeteC

True DP, although several of the higher ups in Rome in the church are Freemasons, contrary to church policy.

Deplorable Patriot

Much to their shame. They cannot serve two masters.

Teagan

Knight of Columbus…Another version.

Deplorable Patriot

KofC are NOT freemasons. Different kettle of fish that had to do with life insurance.

Teagan

Didn’t say they were Freemasons, but they are very much alike. They have “degrees”, like the Masons, they are fraternity, patriotic, service oriented…like the Freemasons. They conduct their meetings, have membership requirements, etc. the same as many other old-time men’s organizations, including the Masons. They hold a very powerful position in the Catholic religion and influence in the Vatican.
The insurance aspect is not the point.

Deplorable Patriot

The insurance aspect IS the point. That was why it was founded. The Knights are NOTHING like freemasons at all. And service is part of all aspects of Catholicism. All of us are called to it. In my Archdiocese every Catholic high school has a service award named for an archbishop. Serviam was his thing.
My grandfather was a fourth knight. So are more than one of my cousins. The Knights are a completely different kettle of fish.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

NSC needs a “Kennedy Rule” – no more than 12.

michaelh

Gen. Flynn and Adm. Rogers, but who are the other 10? 😛

rayzorbak

Keith Schiller may also be one 🙂

trumpismine
Nor'easter

Happy New Year trumpismine!

trumpismine

Happy New Year Nor’easter!

GA/FL

My FAVORITE every Garrison!!!

Nor'easter

Happy New Year GA/FL!

GA/FL

Happy New Year, Nor’Easter!!! :8-)

geneticallycatholic

Wishing all Qtreepers a very Happy and Blessed New Year!

patfrederick

you too geneticallycatholic!

GA/FL

Et tu, GC!!! Best blessings, health and peace!!!

ForGodandCountry

Can I just say…?
Lordy but the past 3 years have gone by in the blink of an eye!
It’s really starting to be ridiculous how fast time is moving forward.
Seems like it was just yesterday that we were watching the Sorosians completely meltdown after Hitlery lost and Epstein didn’t kill himself.

Dora

Free Assange!
==
‘I’m slowly dying here’: ‘Sedated’ Assange tells friend during Christmas Eve call from UK prison as health concerns mount
https://www.rt.com/uk/477138-assange-prison-awful-sedated-uk/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They’re going to kill him. And reduce his mind to rot first, just to be sure.

LM

Is there a most effective way to reach the President to request intervention for him?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

IMO Trump has a strategy there and is pursuing it already. I don’t think there is any way for anybody to make the process faster, because it has some huge rocks in its path, and moving them takes time.

LM

I hope you are right.
I tell myself that the President and patriots are working on his behalf and it helos to remember that he did not look so bad at his last hearing. But compassion for the man and his family, and thinking of what he has had to bear after doing so much for the entire globe is enormous.
I am unsure if we are able to keep him safe over here until true justice is served.
God bless him, and everyone looking out for him.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

singingsoul1

What they are doing to Asange is no better than Stalin did to people who dared to question him. Same with Hitler.
How does UK justify this barbaric communist action in a democracy?
It seems to me that the FBI the CIA the state department and DOJ are infiltrated with the same mindset as we saw concerning Manafort or Stone and Flynn.
Why does the US fallow UK tactics when the founders got away from that type of unjust society?
Seems all the foreign born State department people brought their ideology their government structure with the to impose on us. I know I make it sound rather simplistic but I did not come to UK or Russia or Ukraine to adapt their style of government. I came to the US to a free society with a real justice system. Now nothing seems real except POTUS he keeps it real. Lots of evil has crept from other countries into our government.

LM

Singing,
I think you are right and I think that was the point of the fundamental transformation of our government agencies.
😥🙏❤️

Deplorable Patriot

I agree with that. Assange will not be a free man again until a Special Forces unit goes to get him.

phoenixrising37

On point there Dep Pat …………………………………

piper567

kinda sounds like an Otto thing.
very disturbing.

Dora

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He wrote at least fifty symphonies. At some point, someone (not Mozart) numbered them, 1-41, but people kept buying antique furniture, opening a drawer, and finding Yet Another Mozart Symphony (meanwhile it turned out that #2, #3, and #37 were not actually by Mozart), and for a while these were given numbers, too, at least up to 50. We’re pretty confident he wrote none after #41, but have no idea how many he wrote early in his career.
He wrote his first one when he was eight. The description given in the story of him writing it doesn’t match up with the symphony currently numbered as #1.
I grew up on his symphonies. I can’t see the number and necessarily know what it will be, but I knew that when I hit “play” I’d recognize it instantly, and this is one of my favorites from his early symphonies.
Here’s another couple of cheerful Mozart pieces:

The list could go on a long, long time–Mozart was very prolific!

phoenixrising37

Thank you for your comment Steve…
Hope you will continue through time to favor us with some of your favorites. I grew up on classical music, but not on anyone composer in particular, and have no special knowledge of Mozart… I do so enjoy his music.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’ve diversified, lately.
I can’t quite get into Haydn; he sounds to me like Mozart on a relatively lackluster day. And it seems like the only Bach I like are the truly famous pieces of his…when I go looking for an obscure piece to broaden my horizon, I end up knowing why it was obscure. But I’ve pursued Chaikovskiy (The only reason the T is there and the Y isn’t ,in most people’s spelling is some non-English speaker transliterated his name) Dvorak and others. My parents never listened to Dvorak.
About the most “modern” orchestral music I like is Holst (The Planets), the Carmina Burana, and Rachmaninov (those are all 20th century); a lot of the rest just seems to be aimless, wandering, tuneless junk.

Deplorable Patriot

We call Haydn “Mozart Lite”.
You don’t care for Beethoven?
I share your’lack of enthusiasm for Bach. I sang 2nd soprano for his B minor Mass, which was, IMO, the best of his I’ve sung.
Carmina…it has it’s moments. One of my “scrapbook performances” was a 4th performance in a long weekend that was just almost perfect. Too bad it’s all pagan. 🙄

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I forgot to mention Beethoven. I like him quite a bit.
Carmina has maybe five (out of the twenty four distinct) movements I like.

Deplorable Patriot

I guess having sung Carmina a number of times…you get to the Queen of England, and you know you’re just about there. My preference is the spring section and the tavern scene not the least because the ladies got to sit through two movements of the latter.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The last two (Ave Formosisima and O Fortuna) seem like they go together very well, for some reason, maybe it’s the crescendo at the end of the former.

Deplorable Patriot

The idea with O Fortuna is that at first, you’re full of energy and it’s a new year, etc., and you sing it at the end again when you’ve been through the wheel of fortune once, and you’re exhausted. I can’t say what that’s like from an audience perspective, but there’s a reason the percussion calls for more tamtam crashes. Really, by the time you get to that final timpani roll, you’re ready to stop.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, I lose that effect by oftentimes just jumping into the last 2, 3, or 4 tracks on the CD.

Deplorable Patriot

I can see where that would happen.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Granted, it’s less tiring to be in the audience.
“Hey you all sing and play music til we get tired…”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Which just reminded me of my retort to “modern” music that is virtuosic (so the performers love the challenge) but can’t be listened to:
“Just because it is hard to play [or hard to write] doesn’t mean it should be hard to listen to.”

Deplorable Patriot

It’s hard for everybody. Being in John Adams land is no joke. It makes you a better musician, but it’s a pain.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The prototypical “OMG Someone Actually Thinks This Is Music???” thing for me is Schoenberg. I can’t find (or recognize) the particular piece I’m thinking of.

Deplorable Patriot

makes you a better musician for having done it since the constant is the quarter or the eighth beat.

Deplorable Patriot

I meant to say, at least you aren’t into Dvorak. Talk about socialistic overtones.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Huh, no–I like Dvorak, my parents weren’t into him.
Forgot Paganini too.

phoenixrising37

Share you feelin’ about Haydn… took a Music Ap class in college, and learned that there’s a benchmark, so to speak, after Haydn, and I can easily understand why, as classical music in general seems to reach greater heights after him. 😉
Have a deep appreciation for Dvorak (my Dad turned me onto him). REALLY like Rachmaninov and some others which my poor memory can’t pull up now. The Florida Suite comes to mind, but can’t recall atm the name of composer (frustrating is, the loss of synapses!)
Not at all familiar with Holst… will have to check out. Thanks for your thoughts.

Deplorable Patriot

Listen to The Planets. You’ll hear a lot you already know.
THe French romantics, IMO, are also worth learning. Saint-Saens in particular.

phoenixrising37

Thank you Dep Pat… makin’ a note here…

Deplorable Patriot

Here you go:

You can also just watch the movie “The Right Stuff”. There’s a lot of it in there.

phoenixrising37

Thank you! I’ve never seen “The Right Stuff”. Will watch…

Deplorable Patriot

YOU HAVEN’T SEEN “THE RIGHT STUFF”?!!!!!
Okay, we have it memorized in this house, but it’s a fabulous flick.

phoenixrising37

I was caregiver for late Hubby for years, and others as well… so, yes… lots of movies blew past my world. Later, when I had time, I didn’t know what to look for to watch 😉 Cultural deprivation right?

ForGodandCountry

What kind of madness is this?!?
Not seen “The Right Stuff”???
Sacrilege! Abomination! Heresy!!comment image

Deplorable Patriot

Well, now, not everybody is a space and aviation nut. We wore out tapes of it, but my dad is an aerospece engineer and I have three younger brothers, plus we lived at Pax River for a while. It’s in the blood, same as you.

Deplorable Patriot

Now that I’m actually reading this as it flows as a conversation, Mozart is unmistakable when listening. The use of half step descending lines, and specific chord motifs are uniquely his. Beethoven, Verdi and Puccini, just to name a few, have similar signatures. You get to know them after a while.
The thing about Mozart is that he knew instinctively how to write for every instrument, including voice. All vocalists use him for therapy at one point or another. Honestly, you ask singers what their favorite opera is, and the answer a lot of times is Le Nozze di Figaro, or the Marriage of Figaro which is funny, and has some of the best music ever written in it.
The more I study, the more I wish Mozart had not abandoned the Church the way he did for the lodge. His composition is just more satisfying than so many others.

plumnelly1
plumnelly1
plumnelly1

Beginning of article…
“Last week, the state of Alaska struck back. Specifically, it struck back against Goldman Sachs and the green ideology that is galloping through America’s boardrooms and now, apparently, its investment banks.
Goldman Sachs had announced that it would no longer underwrite Arctic drilling operations. “We will decline any financing transaction that directly supports new upstream Arctic oil exploration or development,” the firm said in a statement. “This includes but is not limited to the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.”
In return, Alaska’s Republican governor, Mike Dunleavy, announced the state had removed Goldman from one contract to pay oil and gas drillers, and that he would re-examine the state’s willingness to do business with the investment bank at all.”

bakocarl

GA/FL
December 31, 2019 at 08:52
May our century’s Twenties Roar – with Trump piloting their beginning!
Roar with Prosperity and Sanity and real Justice for the last decade’s corrupt-ocrats!
As we roar into 2020
The Trump Train arrives with goods aplenty
Ptrump at the throttle and hammer down
Undeterred by evil Corruptocrat Klowns
Greeted at stations by throngs and crowds
America, once more, stands strong and proud
God, country and flag now moved to the fore
Our people, coming together once more
Our economy, now vibrant again
Showing the strength of the workers within
The forgotten men, now fully employed
Rise from poverty to life enjoyed
Unemployment now at record lows
There’s now work for all and room to grow
SNAP rolls cut and poverty is down
The jobs returned to our cities and towns
Foreign trade, once conducted to our shame
But now the Trump Team wins every game
NAFTA, near death, the policy of fools
Will soon be replaced by Trump’s smarter tools
Our military, once left to decay
But now on top, the best any day
Our policies changed from endless wars
To military actions, less not more
Our borders, once porous, sport new walls
Slowing invaders, but not yet all
Drugs and gangs make it through every day
But more get caught and not allowed to stay
Healthcare access up and costs are down
Plans more flexible, a big fraud crackdown
Generic drugs approved, Right to Try, too
VA’s plan gives vets the honor they’re due
Liberal judges, so biased and flawed
Now have to contend with men of the law
Put on courts at an expedited pace
Assuring real laws apply to each case
Dumb Obozo regs tossed into the bin
Oil, gas and pipelines now rise again
Many jobs created, imports dropping fast
Energy independence – here at last!
Although our country is getting well
Recovering from Corruptocrats’ spells
We need a purge of traitors and frauds
To be one people and flag with one God
Looking ahead later on this year
We’ll see the man we hold so dear
Elected again – a landslide, for sure
Our nation’s still sick, but PTrump’s the cure
May God bless President Trump, now, today
And guide him with wisdom along his way
Please keep him safe ‘till his work is through
President Trump and his family, too.

Nor'easter

Happy New Year bakocarl!

GA/FL

Yet another Poetic Triumph by our own BakoCarl!!!!
Please put it in the Poetry Tree thread!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent article on WND which betray’s Treasonous Shanghai Comey’s escape strategy:
https://www.wnd.com/2019/12/shrunken-withered-figure-comey-lashes-trump-supporters/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Still outraged that CHINA (and to a lesser extent the EU) controlled our FBI.
False flags involving the CHINATIZED FBI? Oh, that’s making all kinds of sense now. ABUSING the FBI for political ends. And that is why WRAY has turned things around so hard on prosecution of CHINA by parts of the FBI.
Wray is TURNING THE DRAGON and it’s NOT EASY.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Think of it. CHYYYNNAA likely had COMPLETE ACCESS through the FBI.
COMPLETE ACCESS
Oh, this is all making sense now. HSBC Comey may need more than a jail can provide.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And don’t get me started on Treasonous Goldman Sachs for their shilling for the Carbon Theft Economy.
THEY’RE NOT AMERICAN.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Reversing policy on Alaska might be a very good move to make people think that Goldman Sachs has the slightest shred of loyalty to this country.

Gail Combs

…”The horrific betrayal of allies in northern Syria…” — Comey
What drug is he on?
October 23, 2019 — Military leader of Syrian Kurds thanks President Trump for Cease Fire.

ladypenquin

My husband despises him. No one should ever forget what Comey said a couple of days ago. Not too dissimilar to Strozac’s remark while in a Southerwestern Virginia Walmart, “you can smell the Trump support” – first take at the time was Strozac saying Trump supporters “smelled.” I wanted to ask Strozac what was he doing in a Walmart?
From the article,
“President Trump, Comey wrote in a Washington Post commentary, is a “shrunken, withered figure,” and the 63 million people who voted for him in 2016 are “sad people in red hats.”
“It feels as thought a strange and slightly sad old guy is yelling at you to get off his lawn,” Comey wrote, “echoed by younger but no less sad people in red hats shouting, ‘Yeah, get off his lawn!’
Red hats beats pinko hats any day.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The allure of Wall Street is insidious. “You’re better than them.” A TOXIC message that is a KNIFE IN AMERICA’S BACK.comment image

GA/FL

I’ve read a few comments that Strzok and Page had Iranian backgrounds/ancestry.

Deplorable Patriot

Not enjoying the show?

ladypenquin

If anyone has contact with Keln, from CTH… he did great Les Deplorable mug in 2016. High quality manufactured, much better than what cafepress ever offered. Can’t find them anymore. Looks like he did some work with someone named girlnextdoor60 on reddit. I’m not on Reddit.
Would like to know if Keln can do them again.

churchmouse

Happy New Year, milady!
Found Keln’s Twitter and blog. The blog has Keln’s email address in the top left hand corner:

http://www.nukingpolitics.com/

churchmouse

Second go. First reply did not post.
You can contact him here:

http://www.nukingpolitics.com/

churchmouse

Third reply. First two in spam, most probably.
First of all, a very Happy New Year.
Contact info as follows (hopefully, this will go through, but you will have to make the logical adjustments to make the links work):
twitter.com/n u k i n g p o l i t i c s
http://www.n u k i n g p o l i t i c s.com

jamcooker

Ozzy posted a link to a thread by Carlos on the New Year’s post by Wolf that included this clip from the ’80s about the mid east by Alan King. It was done in a humerous vein, but there’s a lot of truth in the bit. The thread by Carlos was good, as always, but I thought the clip was worth posting on it’s own.

jamcooker

BTW, HAPPY NEW YEAR to all the Q-Treepers! (Still have a lot of catching up to do!)

Nor'easter

Happy New Year jamcooker !

gil00

Happy New Year!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gail Combs

“…”The Squad” was brilliant social psychology by the hard left, to make socialism “fashionable”…”
And it was brilliant Qanon psychology to make “The Squad” LAUGHABLE!
Ridicule is the better weapon. Just ask Alinsky. 😉

Teagan

I notice the representative from NY (Presley?) has seemingly stepped back and isn’t photographed very often with the other three. Must be smarter than they are and see the hole they keep digging for themselves. But, what I want to know…what is happening to the ethical campaign violations, etc? Will they just fade away with no accountability like most seem to do?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hopefully there will be accountability. If not with this House, then hopefully the next – and there’s always the DOJ, as long as the Civil Rights Division doesn’t free them “because color”.

kalbokalbs

DOJ is the only hope for accountability over squad violations….
The House country club can’t spell accountability.

Dora
phoenixrising37

Lovely Dora… thanks for posting.

PeteC

I have seen an issue arise on the Q Tree that I did not want to get pulled into (nothing bad!)—concluding to each their own, just let it be. But on the other hand, I knew there would be people here perhaps struggling with this issue and their world view—the Bible believing followers of the Way (of Jesus Christ).
The issue would be the UFO/ extra-terrestrial, aliens from another system discussion. (FYI—I watched the show, Ancient Aliens, for 3 years to gather insight into their arguments and reasoning, and whatever proofs they sought to offer. Kurt’s book and released government stuff, whatever.)
I am a true believer in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, the Son of Man and the Son of God—that through Him all things were created. Yes, my world view, and not here to push it on anybody! “All things were made through Him [Jesus Christ], and without Him nothing was made that was made …He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.” (John 1:3; 10—11; NKJV, all ref.; all italicized bracket content mine).
“In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth.” (Gen. 1:1). The Word, Jesus Christ Himself, came as a Man to His own creation—“And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us…” (Jn. 1:14a). “In the beginning [before the act of Gen. 1:1] was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God.” (Jn. 1:1–2).
-Cont.-

PeteC

Therefore, from the viewpoint of Scripture, if something comes from the heavens, God through Jesus Christ created it—and if something comes from the earth, God through Jesus Christ created it. “For by Him [Jesus Christ] all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.” (Col. 1:16—17).
Scripture says “all things,” whether in heaven or on earth. It does not say “all things except extra-terrestrials and UFO’s.” Let me be clear—I am not downing a person if they believe in ancient aliens and UFO’s—I am merely trying to provide some context for those who believe in Jesus Christ and the Holy Scriptures!
The apostle Paul writes—“For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” (Eph. 6:12). Thus—principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness, and spiritual hosts all belong to the heavenly places and not the flesh and blood terrestrial earth. Compare this verse to what Paul writes in Colossians 1:16 above.
From the Word of God, we understand that the Creator fashioned “spiritual beings” (celestial) and “physical beings” (terrestrial), in heaven and on earth, respectively. We are told of angelic beings (spiritual) and natural beings (human beings). Scripture indicates that these created spiritual beings are able to interact within the physical realm of creation. Within the angelic realm, the Bible refers to the holy angels of God (e.g. Michael the archangel, and Gabriel the messenger of God)—and the fallen angels of Satan who rebelled against the authority of God (indicating the angelic realm has the power of “free will”).
-Cont.-

PeteC

Jude writes—“And the angels who did not keep their proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day…” (Jude 6). I interpret Jude’s reference to “when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men” in Gen. 6:4, before the great Flood in the days of Noah. These angelic beings (spiritual realm) took on human form and had sexual relations with the daughters of men (physical realm) before the Flood. Thus, we have the spiritual realm interacting within the physical realm.
Hebrews 13:2 states—“Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained angels.” This makes reference to men encountering heavenly beings on earth—the same as Abraham (Gen. 18), Lot (Gen. 19), Gideon (Judges 6), and Manoah (Judges 13)—the angels appearing to these men in human form.
Another aspect of the spiritual realm can be discerned in what the angel Gabriel, the messenger of God, said to Daniel—“Then he [Gabriel] said to me, ‘Do not fear, Daniel, for from the first day that you set your heart to understand, and to humble yourself before your God, your words were heard; and I have come [from God] because of your words. But the prince of the kingdom of Persia [in the spiritual realm] withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael [the archangel], one of the chief princes, came to help me, for I had been left alone there with the kings of Persia.” (Daniel 10:12—13). The “prince of Persia” or “kings of Persia” were not earthly or human rulers—but this refers to an ongoing conflict taking place in the spiritual or heavenly realm, with the archangel Michael one of the most powerful angels of God!
Remember the citation above where the apostle Paul refers to principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness of this age, and the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places (Eph. 6:12)!!?? We are given a glimpse here in Daniel of the conflict occurring in the heavenly realm also!
-Cont.-

PeteC

Daniel continues—“Then he [Gabriel] said, ‘Do you know why I have come to you? And now I must return to fight with the prince of Persia [heavenly realm]; and when I have gone forth, indeed the prince of Greece will come [heavenly realm, future conflict]. But I will tell you what is noted in the Scripture of Truth. No one upholds me against these, except Michael your prince’.” (Daniel 10:20—21). All of this revolves around Daniel’s visions regarding prophecies concerning the earthly empires of Persia and Greece—Persia first, to be followed by the Grecian empire under Alexander the Great. Even as Persia was under the ultimate dominion of corrupt spiritual beings from Satan, so also would the Grecian empire be under Satan’s domain—the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. (And by extension, the future Roman Empire, also—and by extension, the Empire, the superpower of the U.S. today!)
Further Scriptural evidence of the interaction of the spiritual realm within the physical realm can be seen in demon possession. One of many Biblical examples is found in Luke 8:26—39. Encountering a demon-possessed man—“Jesus asked him, saying, ‘What is your name?’ And he said, ‘Legion,’ because many demons had entered him. And they [the demons] begged Him that He would not command them to go out into the abyss.” (vv. 30—31). If they were sent to the abyss, their play-time on earth was over!
Ergo, where am I going with all this, and what is my point??!! First, I had to provide some Scriptural foundation to my argument—the above. Again, I am speaking primarily to true believers in Jesus Christ (as opposed to Christians in name only!). If we hold the Scriptures as Truth (in the literal-sense interpretation thereof), how do we make sense of (or accommodate or assimilate) the UFO/ extra-terrestrial phenomena before us, staying true to the Word of God?
If God created “all things” heaven and earth, would He allow another type of created physical being (an extra-terrestrial) to come into direct contact with another created physical being (humans)? Ultimately, this would usurp God’s plan of salvation for mankind and eternal life through His Son Jesus Christ, and throw it out the window! Which would render the whole of Scripture as we know it as a non-truth (a fiction).
-Cont.-

Tonawanda

I believe in the Nicene Creed, and what the Creed expresses is my standard for judging if someone is a Christian or not. The Creed IMO is an expression of historic fact, the central fact of human history.
Having spent many decades thinking (and worrying) about the arguments among Christians; examining the pros and cons of the historical Jesus; inquiring into the authorship of the Gospels and the “theology” of Paul; being affected by the fact (for instance) that people were burned alive FOR NOT believing in the Real Presence, and being equally affected by the fact that people were burned alive FOR believing in the Real Presence; God gave me the grace to love and trust Him.
Wolf said something a few months back which meant a lot to me. Someone he knew told Wolf that a personal relationship with Jesus was just that, personal. Jesus knows my heart and soul, and He knows my gratitude to Him. If I can reflect even a small part of the Love that Jesus has given me, I am happy.
I find Corso and Lazar convincing, although ultimately I can’t say. There are so many mysteries and possibilities. But whatever the reality, I am content to be loved by Jesus and to love Him, the central fact of human history. And if something fantastic turns out to be true, God knows about it, and it is part of God’s creation.
If other people believe other things, that does not bother me, unless they mean me harm, and even then I am mostly not bothered.
The brilliant Chuck Missler said he was often asked by people how to understand confusing parts of the Old Testament. He told them, always look at it with Jesus in mind, and you will figure it out. And when Missler said Jesus, I think he meant Jesus as an historical fact, as expressed in the Nicene Creed.
In the same way, in life, and with respect to all the mysteries in life, I see them with Jesus in mind, and they resolve themselves to my satisfaction and gratitude.

PeteC

Conversely, through His Word, God has revealed to us all the truth that we need to know, at a level His created human being can best understand, to come to a rational knowledge of Him. “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” (John 14:6). One way, one truth, one life!
Whatever elements are in the universe, whether on earth or in the heavens, they are architectures and systems put in place by the Creator of the universe—nothing comes from “outside,” no foreign element comes from “without” and introduces itself within “all things created heaven and earth.”
Many ancient alien theorists postulate that extra-terrestrials came to earth in ancient times and genetically modified an existing species on earth to create the human species—and apparently the government has physical evidence that they have returned to follow up on the progress of their experiment, by way of extra-terrestrial crash sites, etc. (Roswell, for example). Area 51 is the primary government facility where reverse engineering of alien technology has been taking place, and to perhaps hold the remains of the victims of crashes. However, as the Ancient Aliens show always ask—“What if it were true that…”—without ever providing any evidence to validate their theories.
Whatever the case—the physical elements and technology being harnessed through reverse engineering must be of this world because they are capable of being produced and operating within the laws and mechanics of this world, using material found in this world. But perhaps I am blinded to all the extra-terrestrial cargo craft coming inbound from outer space bringing other world material.
-Cont.-

PeteC

Then, the other question is to what degree this is a government psyop, as opposed to a government cover-up? And if the aliens are so advanced, then why haven’t they sought to control the planet for themselves? And if we have received their technologies and materials, why is our advancement into space so slow and human-like?
So, how can all this stuff fit (jive) with Scripture? Is the Satanic spiritual realm playing tricks on us? Are the spiritual forces of Satan taking “alien form” in order to deceive humankind? What a grand deception that would be! Does the Antichrist come to earth in a space craft in order to deceive mankind? Are the celestial beings sided with Satan taking on a physical disguise in order to deceive God’s human creation? Deceiving God’s creation has always been a primary goal of the father of lies and deception himself, Satan! Why do the global elite worship and sacrifice to Lucifer if he doesn’t exist and provision them with riches and power? Such activity would be superfluous, even useless!
“The coming of the lawless one [the Antichrist] is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2Thes. 2:9—12). God will send them [non-believers] strong delusion, that they should believe the lie! And Satan will employ his supernatural power to deceive mankind!
-Cont.-

PeteC

Contemplate this description by 1st century (A.D.) John the Revelator, depicting the demon locusts released out of the bottomless pit (the abyss) by the Angel of Destruction (Abaddon)—“And the appearance of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle; on their heads, as it were, crowns like gold, and their faces were like the faces of men. And they had hair like the hair of women, and their teeth were like the teeth of lions. And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings like the sound of chariots, of many horses rushing to battle. And they have tails like scorpions, and stings; and in their tails is their power to hurt men for five months.” (Rev. 9:7—10; NASB). John is describing this vision within the framework of his 1st century (A.D.) knowledge and mindset by inspiration of the Holy Spirit of God.
Spiritual discernment is and will be critical on the human level—“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.” (1John 4:1—3).
Just some thoughts from a Biblical worldview interpreted in the grammatical-historical hermeneutic of Scripture.
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!

GA/FL

Pete – Thank you for taking the time to write and post this – have copied to print and read carefully.
Happy New Year to you and yours!!!!

PeteC

Thank you GA/FL for even reading it!!! Lol.

PeteC

And Happy New Year to you and yours, GA/FL!!!! God bless!

PeteC

And to show that my assessment is not alone, Dr. Stanley Monteith in his book, “Brotherhood of Darkness,” writes—“Some people believe that government officials are covering up the fact that UFOs are real and that aliens have visited our planet. Nothing could be further from the truth. UFOs are probably demonic manifestations, and aliens are either demons or fallen angels.” (p . 133)
He does not elaborate as I have above!

Tonawanda

I am sorry Pete, I responded before you were done. No disrespect intended, and your thoughts are wonderful.

PeteC

Amen, BakoCarl!!!

PeteC

Oops! Lol. Amen to you too, Tonawanda!!! My “amens” have a mind of their own!

bakocarl

Great Bible-based coverage of the topic, Pete! Lots of really strange and horrible things will be happening in the latter days and final end times.
Specifically, with respect to the Beast of Revelation: “All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.”
And, let me add from 1 John 4 “You are of God, little children, and have overcome them [false spirits], because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.”
And from Ephesians 1 “just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love” and “having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory”
I don’t believe that God will allow His chosen to be deceived . . . now, in the latter days (which very well may be now), or in the final end times and Tribulation. He has us securely in the palm of His hand.
And thank God for that because, with respect to the final end times . . . we ain’t seen nothin’ yet!

PeteC

Amen, BakoCarl!!! See above! Lol.

rayzorbak

Matthew 24:37
For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah.
Luke 17:26
And just as it happened in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
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Matthew 24:24
For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.
Way too much about the Doctrine of “Election” to go into now……
I have discussed it previously….. but many do not want to hear it.
———————————————
Pete…. Thanks for the comments pertaining to things that really do MATTER.
God Bless You and Yours….
and…. Happy New Year 🙂

PeteC

Thank you, Rayzor, and God bless and Happy New Year to my Arkansas brother and your family!!!!!

rayzorbak

Keep the Faith Brother (I know you will)
Keep spreading the TRUTH.
Your Testimony is more powerful than you know.
Some are to plant the seeds
Some are to water and nurture them.
Some provide shade.
Beware of the Insects and Fungus.
Then comes the Harvest.

PeteC

YES!!!
And all that you wrote in the latter part of your post is what I do for a living!!! Lol.

rayzorbak

I pray god Blesses You and Your Ministry.

PeteC

No Rayzor, I own greenhouses! Just finished my 40th Year! My grandfather 35 years before my “reign”! So I grow and sell plants for a living—which involves planting, watering, fertilizing, insect and fungus control, harvesting (selling)!!! Lol.
But thank you on the ministry side—we are all part of the process! “I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. Now he who plants and he who waters are one, and each one will receive his own reward according to his labor. For we are God’s fellow workers…” (1Cor. 3:6-9a).

Dora

Gail Combs

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ForGodandCountry
Tonawanda

A couple weeks ago on this site, following Lin Wood, I suggested that VSG could use an extraordinary writ to address the articles of impeachment. Wood suggested mandamus, and I suggested others, including possible use of a declaratory judgment to have the SC essentially rule on the sufficiency of the evidence. They would do this by defining what is meant by a high crime and misdemeanor.
Now Robert Barnes has written an article suggesting the use of a declaratory judgement for the same reasons. Barnes was way off in his interpretation (“decode”) of Sullivan’s decision in the Flynn case, but this article is right on.
I like the use of a declaratory judgement because it would judicially recognize the phoniness of the impeachment scam. A couple leftist members of the SC might even agree on a question like this.
https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/how-trump-could-seek-to-dismiss-impeachment-articles-in-court/

phoenixrising37

Thanks for sharing your expertise on this with us Tonawanda…

gil00

On immigration this is exactly
right. We dont need to import or morals, ideals, or MAGA. Export is best for everyone.

gil00
GA/FL

Islamists should be confined to Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran.

ozzytrumpster

I was thinking the nether regions. Like the memory hole of history

GA/FL

EVEN BETTER!!!

phoenixrising37

What is it with the Swedes? allowing their women to be raped and their children to be assaulted and beaten?
Maybe the lack of sunshine? (jokin’ of course)

phoenixrising37

actually, makes me cry to see this children … he will be scarred for life… psychically and physically.

gil00

And it was done by a 15 yr old who wont be removed. That many stitches…wasnt assault. Here even in CA itd be a hate crime and attempting murder.

churchmouse

They’re not the only ones.
Over 10 years ago, I ran across a blog from a young American of Italian heritage who said that blue eyes were demonic.
Terrible. As if people can choose their eye colour.

gil00

Judt now figuring it out? Cant claim ignorance you took the money and looked the other way.
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1212419398809661440?s=20

phoenixrising37

You’ve got their number Gil………………..

ozzytrumpster
ozzytrumpster

It’s Dawson’s field on Ghosn escaping japan and micronS interference. Also manafort

phoenixrising37

Thanks Ozzy… love Dawson…

ozzytrumpster

He’s had a break over the festivities but is back with his usual acute analysis

GA/FL

UH-OH
The woman wearing the white dress in the background is wearing the same dress as Kimberly Gillfoyle.
Heh.

GA/FL

Teagan

That dress was a show-stopper! She wears it perfectly.

Deplorable Patriot

Sorry, but I don’t care for it.

GA/FL

It reminds me of a ruffled Iris! Not many people could wear it – cannot have any Michelin tire rolls around the waist and hips!

GA/FL

Can’t believe she’s had two babies!

churchmouse

Probably has a personal trainer.

GA/FL

…and a nutritionist/dietician and a chef to prep the proper diet.

churchmouse

Exactly.

GA/FL

…and a home gym! :8-)

churchmouse

Couldn’t agree more!

phoenixrising37

I love the dress, esp. the top… she wears it well.
She doesn’t get nearly (well none of the Trump women really) the attention she deserves.
Great Mom, intelligent, works hard for our Republic and her father-in-law
tastefully dressed always…
Grounded! (did I mention I like her?)

phoenixrising37

But not as well, right? 😉

GA/FL

That lady is wearing the wrong dress for her, uh, figure. (not that I’m any less lumpy) There comes a time, unless one is dedicated and disciplined, that wearing dark colors is mandatory! Fat ladies should NEVER wear pastel pink – they always come out looking like Miss Piggy.

phoenixrising37

You’re right Georgia… must have been embarrassing for her to be wearing same dress as someone as disciplined as what’s her name.

Teagan

You are so correct…sigh. Speaking as one that has a LOT of black in my closet.

Teagan

Kimberly most likely bought her gown in NY or elsewhere. The exclusive shops in Palm Beach keep a very close tab on the locals so they don’t show up at the same event in the same gown. This, of course, wasn’t one of the many charity balls so more difficult to cross check. To most, it may sound very silly but if you spend $10,000 on a ball gown you really don’t want to see it (maybe worn much better!) across the room.
Part of the lives of the rich and famous…at least the female side!

Gail Combs

DawsonSField
Thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1204426320589021184.html
“Did Christopher Steele get caught in the Trump honey trap much earlier than we expected?….
As many already know, at least 3 generation of Trumps have participated in sting operations for the FBI. All while posing as ethically questionable targets for bad guys to compromise…
So Steele was working against Ivanka?….”

phoenixrising37

Well, for those who even entertain the thought that nothing will be done in this matter…
Papa Bear is NOT going to let this pass.

ladypenquin

I think this Bushmills guys nails DJT and Obama in this tweet. 🙂

phoenixrising37

T3,
If you’re lurking, busy, whatever…………………………
We miss you… Here’s wishing you joy and happiness in the new year…God bless you and yours.

ForGodandCountry

I second this.

CM in TN

Hope everyone had a happy New Year. Wife and I are on vacation in Vail, CO. to ski until this weekend. Having a blast, first time to ski here. Envy all you CO treepers, it’s beautiful here.

phoenixrising37

So happy for you CM ! Have a terrific time… see you when you return.
Wishing you and your bride a joy filled 2020…

CM in TN

Thank you!

GA/FL

Happy New Year, CM!
Have a good (safe) time in Colorado! Let us know if you see a certain brainy MAGA guy running around looking at the stars, talking about coins or counting stuff.

Gail Combs

Wave HI to Tony Heller too. He is now in Colorado.
I skied in Aspen the second time I ever went down hill skiing. 3 feet of new powder WHAT A BLAST!

CM in TN

Thank you!

Harry Lime

Hope everyone had a Happy New Year as well. Speaking of Colorado…if you’ve been following the giant drones in formation at night story…it appears that the FAA will finally start investigating…they don’t seem very concerned about it…but I find the whole thing kind of creepy. I wonder if they’ll get to the bottom of it.
https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/cory-gardner-faa-colorado-drones/73-37376058-4857-46f3-babf-b9d8b0db5739

CM in TN

Thanks Harry!

Linda

I bet if someone started shooting them out of the sky, we’d quickly find out who owns them. 🙂

Harry Lime

I’m a little surprised someone hasn’t done that already.

Nor'easter

Happy New Year CM in TN !

CM in TN

Thank you!

Teagan

There’s a great restaurant outside of Vail you take a horse sled into the woods…name escapes me at the moment, but anyone will know it. Very popular, even in the summer. Highly recommend it for the experience.
Have a great time…Vail is my favorite because it’s “cozy” compared to steamboat or even Aspen.

CM in TN

My wife was looking into it earlier. 4 Eagle Ranch.

Teagan

Have her look under Beano’s Cabin.

duchess01
mollypitcher5

I really don’t want to appear to be Pope bashing but this one is very strange. Back in youth I recall kissing rings of Bishops or Cardinals ..not sure who but it wasn’t like this kiss-it-if-can maneuver…

mollypitcher5
mollypitcher5

GA/FL

When the citizens have no guns, there will be such as this.
It would not happen in Texas…or most any other state, except those states hijacked by socialist Democraps.

mollypitcher5

I guess that’s why they’re trying as hard as they can to get them elected or appointed in any small to large position…school boards to Congress.Once they’re in instead of burning up cars they legislate their ‘values’ into the fabric of our laws

duchess01
Gail Combs

That photo really looks like a painting. It really makes me want to go back packing again.

phoenixrising37

really gorgeous…

duchess01

Agree – art and photography move our spirit to a better time and place.

Linda

Linda

Strange that it’s not showing the whole picture here. There is a sign on it that says “Trust the Plan.”

wheatietoo

Yep…here’s the full picture:comment image

Dora
wheatietoo
Harry Lime

Creepy and crooked even way back then.

gil00

Ugh. That was sick.

Concerned Virginian

Hello, everybody!
Happy KAG New Year, Peace, and Good Energy, to all!

Nor'easter

Happy New Year CV !

wheatietoo

Nor'easter

Happy New Year Wheatie !

wheatietoo

Happy New Year, Nor’easter!

gil00

Happy Happy and Merry Merry to you!

wheatietoo

Happy New Year, Gil!

phoenixrising37
phoenixrising37

Jack has a most interesting THREAD – click tweet

phoenixrising37
gil00

So the pipeline w Russia is a go, but the corruption isnt. I wonder after speaking w POTUS, we are seeing the thaw between us all. They get to make money legally but have to turn over everything on corruption?

phoenixrising37

Thomas has an interesting THREAD on ME – click either tweet

phoenixrising37
phoenixrising37

oops, posted wrong tweet!
remark above goes with this tweet… SMH !
https://twitter.com/Inevitable_ET/status/1212535438281449472

wheatietoo

She’s got the crazy eyes.

phoenixrising37

Doesn’t she!

Chimpy

Ok, so she’s a murderer. But, by pointing out her crazy eyes, are you insinuating that she’s a DEMOCRAT?

wheatietoo

Hah.
Yup…a crazed one.

mollypitcher5

Thanks PR, I was looking for IET ! He gets banned so much

wheatietoo

IF this is really true…then it makes me wonder even moreso, if Epstein is really dead.
https://twitter.com/QAnonNotables/status/1212555258993315841?s=20
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Did the white hats get him out of there and fake his death?
If you step back and look at it…it really does look like he was set up to be killed.
Putting him in that place to begin with, is fishy.
Then there was the first attempt, which failed.
He should have been moved to another facility after that!
But no.
Then, the security cams were turned off, the guards went missing.
Come on, now…is any of this remotely plausible as ‘coincidence’?
Epstein was/is such a high-value witness, to so much, that if the white hats didn’t get him out of there and put him on ice…then what the hell is wrong with them.

phoenixrising37

Ask yourself who was he working/spying for?
Who initiated the arrest? on a weekend, if I recall correctly.
Arresting agency would determine where he was housed. Who controls that facility…
His disappearance, whether dead or alive… also could insure the courts can’t have him testify, the white hats can’t use him to get to others. Look at what his mere arrest meant to the life of Prince Andrew?
Maxwell was actually his handler (think of zero and ValJar and others)… there’s no way they will give her up to testify…
They’re Mossad… no way info will be gained from either one.
My opinion of course.

wheatietoo

Well, Q said they were saving Israel for last.
We can only speculate what that means.
I don’t think Maxwell was his handler, though.
More like…his facilitator.
I doubt Maxwell knows everything that Epstein knew, or knows.
A lot is possible via the Witness Protection program…
They have faked the death of witnesses before…and brought them out to testify later.

phoenixrising37

iirc Maxwell’s father was MOSSAD’s master spy… Jeffrey Epstein was ? He came out of nowhere… was groomed etc. But I am simply speculating of course…
we’ll never know what happened to Epstein… and I don’t think Maxwell will be testifying in a US court…
When the trail leads to royalty, to Prince Andrew, you’re bound to hit a dead-end. Perhaps something, some compensation might be worked out through back channels between the two countries, but I can’t see it going beyond that…
So many questions, so many mysteries, right Wheatie. I just want POTUS safe to push ahead and win the election and drain the swamp.

mollypitcher5

It’s always been my thought..Epstein didn’t kill himself because he’s still alive!

pgroup

I have ALWAYS said he isn’t dead. Killing him would not have protected anybody. That rich with so many connections, … there’s ALWAYS a open-if-dead box.

wheatietoo

Seen this?
This is how the ChiComs use social media for propaganda.
Well…one of the ways.
https://twitter.com/TombStoneWyatt/status/1212561041663700993?s=20

phoenixrising37

Aha! they want to con’t to lie to us… con’t to make everything FAKE…
Thanks for that info Wheatie… keeps me from thinking I’m paranoid, lets me know “how they do it” – not that I understand the tech mind you 😉

wheatietoo

These are called…’bot farms’.
But they are run by people.
This is how a couple dozen people can generate thousands…even millions…of fake ‘likes’ for propaganda purposes.
Hillary mentioned ‘bot farms’ one time.
It’s interesting that she would even know about them.
😐😑

phoenixrising37

Yes, and haven’t the DIMs accused the Trump campaign of using Bots in social media in 2016 to influence the election (more projection)…

wheatietoo

Yup…always accusing others of what they themselves are actually doing.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

You can see them in action easily on POTUS’ or his supporters accounts. Also on people Dems are attacking. Like today, John Bolton tweeted about NK. Lots and lots of “TESTIFY” replies from accounts with name+numbers combo. Those have to be bots, or Dem paid basement dwellers. They always do same to Rudy too. I’ve got their number!😉

gil00

Chimpy

Divest from AT&T. Including your 401k funds. It’s do-able.

wheatietoo

phoenixrising37
phoenixrising37

Have y’all seen anything about this?
Wheatie?
Is this in response to Virginia 2A crisis?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/why-un-hiring-english-speaking-disarmament-officers-new-york

wheatietoo

Nope, sorry…haven’t seen anything else about this.
But the UN has no jurisdiction here, period.
🤨😠
Those candyass UN ‘officers’ wouldn’t have the nerve to go door-to-door here to try and confiscate guns.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The UN *thinks* it has jurisdiction. But, sadly, that’s all they need to come to the aid of a Democrat COUP.
If the Demoncrats pull some kind of coup, the first thing they do when they attempt to grab power is phone for help.
Which starts WORLD WAR III.
NOW does it make sense why the UniParty forced the election of that creep McAwful in Virginia?
Oh, this is getting good.
I’m going to be blunt. I think these crapweasel Democrats are planning an honest-to-God Coup, and they’re counting on FOREIGN TROOPS to make it work, if push comes to shove.
NEVER give up the guns.
The comments on this article are amazing. People know the truth. OMG – they are pouring out all sorts of “forbidden history” of communist takeovers.

wheatietoo

😁👍

mollypitcher5

Bring it. Complete exposure. The light will be blinding for a lot of Dems who would be stunned to see who their “leaders” count on for help.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. EXPOSURE.
This is how the Ukraine and China dodges both worked to get AROUND exposure.
After Nixon and Magic Wall-Fall, the corrupto traitors / must useful idiots in America could magically interface with communist corruptos who magically disappeared in the FSU (but not Russia – too much baggage) and China (a “mystery Babylon” – no baggage).
This is why our Demmunists will run to the UN and their Euro-globo-crypto-Stasi Merkeloids – gotta have SOME COVER. But even that is enough to know that the Dem leadership are all corrupt and treasonous to the point of being worse than useless.

wheatietoo

wheatietoo

I don’t know if this is ‘something’…or not.
It’s just interesting.

wheatietoo

Hah! …I love Juanita Broderick.

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And Godless, self-serving, dishonest, morally bankrupt ego maniacal Hollywood people like Ron Howard really have a lot of nerve, to criticize our President.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I hate these Hollywood fucktards, and am temporarily rescinding civility on this open thread.
BURN IN HELL YOU COMMUNIST PIGS. The United States will never be a socialist country, and we’re tired of your Menshevik propaganda. Get out of the fucking way while we clean up the MESS you helped make.

Chimpy

Wolf, please tell us what you really think.
😊

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Post coming!

gil00

But he golfed with POTUS way back.comment image

wheatietoo
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good. The COMMUNISTS are going to have to SCREAM FOR MOMMY MAO to come save their asses.
And Mommy Mao never gave a shit about their asses except to USE THEM TO HELL AND BACK.
TRAITORS.

wheatietoo

Wasn’t it Joe Biden who told us that people should just “fire through the door”, instead of opening it?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“FIRE TWO BLASTS!”

wheatietoo

I didn’t know they did this much damage.👇

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Fox was airing this morning. Supposedly a reception building at the front of the compound.

wheatietoo

Thanks, Butterfly.

wheatietoo

Keep talking, Bloomberg.
As usual he’s on the wrong side of this issue.
https://twitter.com/ever_relentless/status/1212557876922699777?s=20

Harry Lime

Good grief…what an idiot!

wheatietoo
wheatietoo

Heheh.

mollypitcher5

Some ChiCom news…….
Calif. border agents find 11 Chinese nationals hiding in appliances, furniture in truck from Mexico
This most recent human smuggling incident comes one month after CBP officers at San Ysidro discovered six Chinese nationals hiding behind a false wall inside another moving truck – also driven by a U.S. citizen – in an attempt to cross the border, the agency said.
Published December 10, 2019ImmigrationFOX News
https://www.foxla.com/news/calif-border-agents-find-11-chinese-nationals-hiding-in-appliances-furniture-in-truck-from-mexico
Several people reported last Tuesday, Sept. 10, that an Asian man driving an Audi sedan made to look like he was an officer with the Chinese People’s Armed Police, a national paramilitary force, said California Highway Patrol Officer Florentino Olivera.
The vehicle was outfitted with the security force’s seal and Chinese police symbols, photos released by CHP show.
Earlier this summer, officials in Northern California arrested another Asian driver with Chinese markings on their car after the person tried to pull over an off-duty officer, Olivera said.

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

Oh my, The brother cashed in on Iraq! LOL, Biden is sooo screwed! Where’s the money Joe?? 😂
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1212598125074014209?s=20

🦋🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🦋

This is great!😂