Because if you think the Left was mad at the beginning of the day Friday…they got madder when Ruth Bader Ginsburg finally succumbed to cancer.
Expect double the prior intensity!
Not just one
A Word from Dragons For Trump
Justice Must Be done.
Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American People...Our campaign represents a true existential threat, like they’ve never seen before.Then-Candidate Donald J. Trump
Lawyer Appeasement Section
OK now for the fine print.
This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines, here, with an addendum on 20191110.
We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.
And remember Wheatie’s Rules:
1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.
(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)
The Mandatory Coin
This week something a little less eclectic.
President Theodore Roosevelt thought our coinage was ugly. In some cases that was true, but even the non-ugly items were still rather…boring. He wanted our coinage to resemble ancient Greek coinage, many of which are legitimate works of art.
At the time, 1907, coins of the same metal tended to simply repeat the same uninspiring designs, for instance the $2.5, $5, and $10 gold pieces had essentially the same thing on them, and had had them since 1839. The $20 gold was different, at least, but it had been introduced in 1850, and by then the mint had a new chief engraver, Christian Gobrecht having been replaced by James Longacre. (Longacre, by the way, had one big weakness. He couldn’t, to save his life, get lettering lined up properly.)
So here it was 1907 and Gobrecht’s design was still being used on most of the gold coinage after a run of over seventy years, and Longacre’s, not much newer, was still on the double eagle.
A similar situation obtained for the silver. The silver dollar (not actually being issued in 1907) was of one design (the Morgan design), but the other silver denominations, the dime, the quarter, and the half dollar, had all been designed by Charles Barber in 1892. They all bore the same thick-necked androgynous head of Liberty, with virtually no detail in the design–deliberately, so the coins wouldn’t turn ugly and lose detail as they wore. (I guess they couldn’t turn ugly if they were ugly in the first place!). These replaced the Liberty Seated series (another Gobrecht design but considerably degraded in execution), which I believe I profiled (some) last week.
Interestingly, the Barber series can actually look pretty darned nice…if the coin is pristine, in a high uncirculated grade.
But the minute it started to wear…blah. Boring.
OK I will fess up to owning one of these…not the same year, though. But this one in the picture has a piss poor strike with lots of detail on the eagle completely missing. It’s not worn–it’s just that they didn’t stamp (“strike”) it properly. The tails of the arrows are an indistinct blob on this coin, the wingtip on our upper left has a lot of missing detail too. Mine is not perfect, but shows a lot more detail. (And I will bet it grades lower in spite of this.)
I bring up the quality of the strike because it becomes key to the story.
Anyhow, I mentioned that Roosevelt found our coinage boring. He then embarked on what he called his “pet crime”–getting the coinage redesigned. He managed to see through changes to the gold coinage, and some of those new designs are renowned for their beauty (and I’ve talked about them previously). But the silver would have to wait–there was a law mandating 25 years between design changes, and it had, thus far, only been 15 years.
So action on the silver front would have to wait a while. But we did get, in 1909, the Lincoln cent. And in 1913 the Indian Head or buffalo nickel.
Finally towards the very end of 1916, new designs rolled out for the dime, quarter and half dollar. (Yes technically that’s slightly less than 25 years but they were so eager to make the change they counted inclusively to justify getting rid of the Barber stuff as quickly as possible…and: Oh by the way, Barber was still working for the mint while this was going on!) And these were different designs for the different denominations, for the first time (other than the dime having a wreath instead of an eagle on the reverse, since 1837).
But with greater artistry came another issue. The new coins did not strike very well. Collectors today know all three of these designs for habitually not striking up well.
The new dime immediately got the nickname “Mercury Dime.” Yes, that is still the head of Liberty on the coin, but it is wearing a cap with wings on it to symbolize freedom of thought, and that reminded people of depictions of the Roman god Mercury. Often enough the details of her hair don’t show very well.
But it’s on the reverse where people look for a weak strike.
That thing in the middle is a “fasces,” a symbol of power in ancient Rome. The magistracies (everything from aedile to consul) all had fasces as their badge of office, and numbers of people called lictors would accompany the office holder (who had to do his job in person), carrying these fasces in their arms.
Edit, Thanks to Wheatie who made me realize I had elided too much. The fasces are a Roman symbol of unity and strength. When carried by the lictors, they represented the power that had been invested in the magistrate that they (the lictors) were accompanying. Roman magistrates, at least during the Republic, had to do their jobs in person. They couldn’t delegate their powers. The US often used the fasces for the same reasons the Romans did, but Mussolini then perverted the meaning of the symbol and so it would eventually be dropped here.
Fasces, of course, is the root of the word “fascism,” which was Mussolini’s name for his movement designed to make Italy great again for the first time since the 400s. So once World War II ended we put Roosevelt (the other one) on the dime and replaced those fasces with a torch.
If you look at the fasces, in the center, there are two bands running horizontally across. On many “Mercury” dimes, those two bands don’t strike up properly and the line separating them will be weak or completely absent. And again, this is the way the coin is actually made in the first place, it’s not wear. Today, when a “Mercury” dime is graded, in addition to the actual grade you might see the designation FSB for “full split bands.” Depending on the year and mint (and you’ll notice this coin has a D next to the E in ONE, making it a Denver mint product), that FSB designation could be common, or rare, and if it is rare, it can make the coin much more valuable than the same grade without FSB.
The Barber Quarter was replaced with the Standing Liberty Quarter, and even there, there were two major types of these quarters. Here is the first one:
(By the way if anyone can tell me how to get Wordpus to put pictures side by side, let me know.)
Notice one key, PG-13 detail about this coin…the exposed breast.
There’s a story that there was a huge public outcry about it and something Had To Be Done about it, but there’s no evidence of any such outcry in the newspapers of the time.
But they did change the design, midway through 1917.
Now Liberty is wearing chain mail and the shield has been redesigned. On the reverse the eagle has been raised a bit and three stars appear below it (and fewer stars appear near the edges, leaving the total number of stars at thirteen).
The mint hated this coin. It was nearly impossible to get to strike up. The overwhelming majority of the coins that came out looked poorly made. As it happens the 1917 coin is fairly sharply struck here, but there’s weakness on the 1924, especially on the date itself. The very next year the mint recessed the date because it was wearing off the coin too quickly. This 1924 is actually very well struck, for a Standing Liberty quarter. You can see most of the detail on Liberty’s head…and that’s the first place people look. Fully (or almost fully) detailed heads get the FH designation and it, too, can add huge money to the value of a coin.
But where you really need to look to evaluate the strike is at the shield emblem, and the rivets, on the shield.
The mint was glad to stop making these coins in 1930–and come out with the Washington quarter in 1932 (the 200th anniversary of his birth).
Finally, the half dollar. Here we have what is probably the most popular silver design in US coinage, though collecting Morgan dollars is more popular than collecting “Walkers” (for “Walking Liberty”).
Most people like to focus on the obverse–and our host occasionally posts a picture of one of these that has seen a lot of use, focusing on the motto.
But I think that is absolutely a kick ass eagle on the reverse.
This, too is a coin that is prone to striking issues. Liberty’s hand in the center of the coin is usually at least partially absent. You’ll notice on this one her fingers merge with the branch she’s carrying. People look for a complete thumb, but really those two fingers are the first thing to go.
I’ve yet to find a perfect one for my personal collection, though to be honest I haven’t really spent a ton of time looking.
But, as weak as this looks, in many cases, the entire center of Liberty is not struck at all. Instead of the fine details of her robe and the flag she’s draped in, there’s nothing but a blob of what looks like pitted metal running up and down through the center of the coin…the pitting being the way the silver looks before it’s struck, as well as after it isn’t struck. Truly sloppy workmanship!
There’s no special designation for this coin, but strike can make a huge difference in price nonetheless. People who collect Walkers know which dates are almost never fully struck; if you can score one of those, well, you’ll probably be eating Ramen for a few months afterwards to save money.
One interesting bit of trivia is that this is the only “mainstream” regular issue US coin to have a US flag on it.
This series run through 1947, to be replaced by the Franklin half dollar, with the Liberty Bell on the reverse (and people look for “Full Bell Lines” on that one).
But these are the coins that saw us through the Roaring 20s, and in two of the three cases, through the Depression and World War II. Today we have, I believe, much more boring stuff. (And the Jefferson nickel suffers from striking issues too, though the mint has finally figured out how to get all the steps to show up on Monticello, consistently.)
Standard Disclaimer: None of the coins shown are ones I own, though I’ll admit (in this case) to owning some examples of each of these designs. Prospective burglars should note that gold and silver aren’t the only heavy metals I collect, and that the other, unnamed heavy metal is kept a lot closer to me than the coins are.
To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!
Remember Hong Kong!!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!
Our First Lady shows the world the true meaning of First Lady with so much grace, beauty and class.
And in the face of rejection by most or almost all of the publications and people that should be recognizing her for her superb qualities.
Yeah, well from what I’ve seen her reaction to their disdain is DILLIGAF.
Is that like ZFTG?
DILLIGAF = Do I Look Like I Give… (in regards to how “those people” hate her).
And she’s definitely zaftig.
So fortunate to have Melania as FLOTUS.
A beacon of beauty, inside and out, shining through the ugliness of politics.
What a beautiful lady … va-va-VOOM … 😍🤚❤️
I’ve just now almost caught up to half way through Thursday’s posts/comments. And now we are rolling into Saturday. Whew!
See ya on the other side.
I’m right there with you gud, you’re excellent company … 😜👍❤️ .. 🤫
It was a week of demanding work. Whole body’s sore and my fingers keep getting creative with what letters go in words.
Ahhhhhh ☺️👍 … I love ❤️ your creativity ..
On the bright side…..
Post of the Day!!! We are ‘On Our Way’ to VICTORY!!!
More and more is being revealed about the CCP involvement in so many areas – no wonder PT is shouting out Chyna every chance he gets – even if it is just the virus – one can tell it is not only about that!!!
… well … she’s dressed up real nice, good makeup … hmmmmm definitely a disenfranchised woman 😑
Rule 4 – I learned a new word.
Rule 5a, LOL!
ok i admit, I skimmed the rules and had to go back to read them again…
I don’t change them terribly often. I added the Zeroth Rule of Gun Safety much more recently than the others.
made me laugh…thanks for the chuckle!
I am here to serve…
This is going to be a busy day in cyberspace.
Certainly not the long awaited Shitstorm Saturday, but I like it!!!
Me thinks, Monday we get our SC nominee. Betting, President Trump, already has Turtle and Ms Lindsey, both up for reelection, mapping the way ahead to confirmation. Collins, Pierre Delecto, Ski and Alexander will play along nicely.
The wind has bled from D-Rat and YSM whining about confirmation before election day.
Confirming a Justice in less than 45 days has happened three times! INCLUDING GINSBURG!!!
Three Supreme Court Justices Were Confirmed In Less Than 45 Days, Including Ginsburg
Three Supreme Court Justices, including Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who passed away on Friday due to complications of metastatic pancreatic cancer, were confirmed by the Senate within 45 days of their formal nomination date.
According to Senate records, Justices Ginsburg, John Paul Stevens, and Sandra Day O’Connor were all confirmed in a short period of time. Stevens’s confirmation in 1975 took 19 days, O’Connor’s confirmation in 1981 took 33 days, and Ginsburg’s confirmation in 1993 took 42 days.
Should we be a little surprised that they told us now and didn’t try to drag it out a little longer? I mean these people are evil and as kalbokalbs posted it can be done.
Work your magic DJT!
I tend to agree, but those who think she actually died months ago won’t.
I wonder how many here think Ginsberg died on Friday, vs. her fellow D-rat activists pulled Ginsberg out of the icebox Thursday to thaw in time for her death to be announced Friday.
A ghastly notion, one I’m certain is beyond the limits of all.
I have only been able to find one photo of her supposedly officiating that wedding a couple of weeks ago. No video.
I don’t think there are enough seat belts!!!!
We need some daring souls to be strap-hangers!
Interesting artist! I had never heard OF her before, but have undoubtedly heard her music before!
I know what you mean wolf!!! 🙂
Here’s her music video
I’m just over auto-tune.
The song is from 2012. LOL I thought someone would mention the indian part!
I didn’t listen to very much of it. 😂
LOL Skip to the end you’ll see the indian dance.
… love this … 😄👍❤️
Cashing in all of my “E” tickets.
… 😮🤚‼️‼️‼️ … 😜
We’re gonna be out on the wings of the bi-plane soon!
… be sure you have your parachute 🪂 on … that’s two chutes/shoots
… 🙂 …
I know what I want. It just hit me. Michelle for ssc. Talk about making the left crazy. Lol.
Must see video (at 2:34)! Here is the source, people. In 2018, she cited “an easily transmissible pathogen that can be caught by respiratory means— even if it only affects 1% of the population” 2018 Camden Conference – Avril Haines
This gal’s name has come up a LOT. What was the other scandal (or scandals) that involved her?
She was highlighted by those trench warfare Clinton Foundation auditor guys…
It was a retweet.
From these guys.
DARPA disavowed this goon and his tech, FWIW.
That and $6 will buy you a latte at Starbucks.
really it costs $6 at starbucks????
Yup – Guess you have not been to Starbucks lately – maybe, never?
LOL – me, either – just hear about what people who have been there complain – and yet – they are hard-pressed to give up their AM Latte – stupid waste of money – imho
nothing makes my morning like a cup of hubby’s coffee…the man is gifted at making perfect coffee…sigh…and so many other things…I truly am BLESSED!
LOL – ‘and so many other things’ – Yes, you are!!!
That’s w/a couple of extra shots of espresso. Their large only has 2, I always added 2 more. I used to get them back in the day, before they picked illegals over Veterans. Now I go to Dunkin. Tastes better and their skim milk isn’t full of sugar.
Btw…..here’s Wictor on that very topic…
Wictor has his role.
Of course he isn’t going to go there.
Wolf made a post too.
“Has his role…”
That suggests that Wictor isn’t independent but rather controlled messaging.
I’ve thought the same about Wictor since early on, but that does not diminish any of these:
his correctness (usually)
his ability to see important things
However, Wictor has a certain focus which, when overpromoted against others who are more momentarily correct, becomes problematic. This is the essence of critical controlled opposition. I’m dealing with a case of that right now – Michael Thau versus Li-Mang Yan. Thau is serving as controlled opposition, and China is using him as a “correct” person masterfully to diminish a “more correct” person.
The trick is to simply recontext Wictor in light of what the remaining necessary information – which cannot be done as a close associate of his – and everything works out. In the process, I make sure not to insult or diminish him, which is useless and contrary to our mutual purposes.
So it’s all good. 😎
Wictor explained early one how he sees himself (a patriotic volunteer) and he repeats all the time what his motives are. Therefore I perceive him as being in control of his focus. No disrespect on him if I note that he himself has chosen and explained over and over the role he has case himself into.
Cast/ not /case
I think she has a significant deep state other …. evil ..
…. something wicked this way comes …
News roundup has been posted if interested.
Missed you!!! <3
You think you have enough news to cover Flep? Not like much is happening right. 😉
*Opens Yahoo sees Left Screaming*
Comment by me not posted on Twitter:
“Very important to understand that the Democrats and China want a potentially deadlockable SCOTUS and will look for the next way to skin that cat. SAVVY UP and situational awareness all patriots who protect the Constitution.”
Yes, they want this election to be a horrible mess. They don’t want a Supreme Court that can clean it up.
And they are absolutely FULL of shit, so it’s a foregone conclusion.
Wolf, I wondered what you meant by the Mickey Mouse partial clock you posted yesterday.
It’s a Q drop that points to 10/8. Mickey is roughly pointing to 10:10 with his fingers, but it’s hard to tell on the minute side. But if you look at RED minute marks, there are 8 showing red.
Later Q post = RIG FOR RED.
Thus, I believe that 10/8 is a “big day” that Q is sending a message about.
As Demo☭rat LAWFARE GEARS UP to CONTEST ELECTION RESULTS,
3 future SCOTUS rulings make Trump’s Nomination-Confirmation one for the ages …
• Universal Mail-in Voting & Ballot-Harvesting Fraud in every Demo☭rat State, mushrooming beyond the initial 80 MILLION ballots sent to who-knows-who, equating to over 60% of the 130 million total NATIONWIDE Vote in 2016.
• Demo☭rat-State Election-Ballot Fraud (delisting VP Pence from the Republican Ticket, omitting 3rd-Party Presidential Candidates, etc.) & Election Vote-Counting Fraud (eliminating ID checks and Signature validation for both in-person & mail-in ballots)
• Census Fraud with court-ordered use of Illegal Aliens to STEAL House of Representative seats from Red States to Blue Sanctuary States.
Well when you have this BS
Michigan Joins Pennsylvania – Will Accept Late Ballots for 14 Days After Election and Ballot Harvesting
There is an answer here, and I think that POTUS has seen it.
Fully agree Wolf!!!
Yes, if all contingencies have been truly accounted for, this will not be a surprise by any means.
I mean, if FISA works both ways….
i did finally find an answer to the PA question–the ballots have to be postmarked by 8 pm on election night and can be received to be counted up to 3 days later. however, signatures do not have to match, can be missing entirely and they have agreed to ballot collection boxes which I don’t think we previously had. PA Supreme Court leans more left than the tower of Pisa.
Signatures aren’t required?
I wonder what laws that skirts since most legal documents have to have a live signature. Would a ballot be a legal document or not?
if it’s “missing” a signature, there used to be a procedure where the applicant is contacted and the missing signature could then be added–and it was supposed to match what it on file. now the courts have said, local election boards are not handwriting experts, so if the signature does not match what’s on file, it’s still okay…it still HAS to be counted
This is a designed FRAUD. I repeat – the Democrats are PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW so that they can cheat massively.
They are creating a crisis which then has to be resolved by – ultimately – SCOTUS.
WOLF KNOWS THIS IS CRAP.
This is so clearly DECEPTION and DESIGNED FAILURE, that I personally would stand guard at this “Wolf” guy’s jail cell, just to make sure he went to the gallows. He KNOWS what he is doing. It is WRONG to create the possibility to CHEAT knowingly, for no purpose. He is not relieved of his duty to uphold the most basic LAW, and he contradicts it KNOWINGLY. He is a TRAITOR to not just the Constitution, but ALL LAW SINCE CAVE MEN. He is a liar who would die by the hand of his fellow Homo erectus.
This mail-in cheat on signatures is the most egregious betrayal of law under the color of law since putting sick people back into nursing homes and forbidding testing them.
Put me in an army and send me into Pennsylvania. I’m ready to drop bombs.
there was a process in place to “rehabilitate” the ballot missing a signature–contact the voter, have them come down and add the signature–verify it MATCHES what’s on file and you’re done. which was all well and good if the missing signature was truly an oversight…this is deliberately allowing fraud to occur.
Miss Wheatie your word of the week was a hit. They had it as their bonus word for spelling and vocabulary today. Looking forward to your next one!
I am so glad, Gil! …Glad it was interesting for them.
Ever try something like this?
OMG – I’m listening to this. You did this to me, RGB! Hope you’re dancing somewhere, too! We are! <3
It feels like this:
Well, Cerno ain’t pullin’ no punches. He thinks Trump gets re-elected, but also…..
Justice was the Scalia murder backfiring on them spectacularly.
And it did.
Not only did Hitlary lose, they got Kavanaugh. Leftist cucks thought they were gonna get Hitlary AND a SCOTUS majority in 2016.
I look forward to the day when the left is so thoroughly beaten down and defeated they finally turn on Obama and Hitlary for that catastrophe.
And that day is coming.
Great thoughts, FGC.
I remember where I was when I heard of Scalia’s death on the radio.
Immediately I had a terrific sense of loss, thinking that everything might be over, that the American republic might be coming to an end, that the republic was in such a fragile state that the death of that one titan might make the difference, might be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
That everything might spiral out of control from that one moment.
And I had another immediate — simultaneous — thought: Did the Democrats take him out? Was this a political assassination?
Then we got more details of the reporting, and it seemed like that was, at least, a premature thought. But a lingering dark suspicion remained in my mind.
The left has a historical weakness that they will never, ever be able to overcome because it is a built-in feature of their ideology. And that is…
They ALWAYS over-reach.
This can be relied upon as sure as the sun will rise every morning short of Christ’s return…
…just as sure as they believe their own media propaganda.
Because the majority of them are idiots. Only idiots claim “science!”, even as the say fetuses ar ot babies and biological sex does not determine sex. Only idiots embrace relativism as truth, which as you see spits in science’s face when it suits the idiot’s argument to do so.
And only supreme ARROGANCE can abide such idiocy…the exact same arrogance and fake superiority that guarantees their over-reach. Obamacare is another example of their over-reach, which cost them the House and Senate “super majority” in the 2010 mid-terms.
And their idiocy guarantees they will keep trying the same thing over and over, never learning from their past, and forces them to UNDER-ESTIMATE their opposition.
Think of.it like women being ruled by their feelings rather their reason. It’s God’s built-in self-destruct mechanism that keeps them from taking over the world and destroying all mankind.
*they say biological sex does not determine GENDER.
You mentioned women ruled by their “feelings.” BTW, I’m looking forward to the confirmation hearings. I believe POTUS will nominate a female judge – can’t wait to see the Lefties expose how they feel about conservative women.
Your second paragraph is EXACTLY how the disciples felt when Christ was placed in the tomb. Just something I noticed about your comment.
This is a very puzzling comment…one would think you were there and knew EXACTLY how they felt.
I look forward to the day when the left is so thoroughly beaten down and defeated they finally turn on Obama and Hitlary for that catastrophe.
15 December 2020. The day after the Electoral College votes President Trump a second term.
If you ever watched the Young Turks Election Meltdown video, as soon as they realized that Hitlary was going to lose Cenk Uyghur went on an absolute tirade about her. (They’re somewhat foul mouthed even under normal circumstances. It ramped up when he started denouncing her.)
FYI anyone who has time give Sarah Huckabee Sanders new book a try. I liked it.
She needs run for office in ‘22.
whatever GOPe Senator is up for re-election.
Isn’t Tom Cotton from Arkansas? If he become Justice, that creates a vacancy.
Wow, we might get a new Supreme Court justice and FBI Director before the election.
Obama Statement on Ginsburg Demands GOP Senate Honors Her Dying ‘Instructions’ and Put Off Vote on Supreme Court Nominee Until New President Sworn In
Oh shut up you….
Ruth Bader Ginsburg – activist judge who politicized many decisions and whose decisions were frequently political and not constitutional in nature, had a final wish which is, as one might expect, unconstitutional, in that it asks the system to crash repeatedly rather than behaving sensibly. NO. It’s as simple as that. The sensible thing before a heated election with more cheating than any election in history, is to make sure we have a tie-breaking vote.
I wrote a reply but it didn’t appear to want to post. Recap….I worked as a radiation therapist MANY years ago, and do not believe Ginsberg would be capable of issuing any last minute deathbed wishes. Doesn’t mean she didn’t say something weeks ago, of course, but that’s not “dramatic” enough.
I do not believe this for one instant and it really doesn’t matter what she supposedly said, does it?
Sorry, I should have included that I treated several patients with pancreatic cancer until death.
Attributions to RBG BS wish are simply emotional theater. Snowflake, emotional CRAP at its worst. Fodder for yammering D-Rats and fawning YSM. F’m all.
Whatever RBG may have said has zero bearing on what should happen in the real world. Which IS, the SC is comprised on nine Justices AND needs to be nine for the election.
Forward with a nomination Monday with a crisp confirmation process.
Nope, does not matter. Last wishes reflect more on those who give them than they do on those who might have any duty to carry them out. An illegal last wish has no need to be carried out, and an unconstitutional one no more than that.
I’ll check the bin…..
Forget the bin…Point was made. Thanks!
It needed cleanup badly!
RETURN TO SENDER
I don’t believe I’ve ever seen that clip. Enjoyed it immensely.
Every SC justice has had the dying wish that a member of their party replaces them. That’s why a number died in office, and why guys like Anthony Kennedy hung on as long as they did.
Why should this one be special in that regard?
“That thing in the middle is a “fasces,” a symbol of power in ancient Rome. The magistracies (everything from aedile to consul) all had fasces as their badge of office, and numbers of people called lictors would accompany the office holder (who had to do his job in person), carrying these fasces in their arms.”
A ‘symbol of power’…?
Well yeah, but it was a symbol of “In Unity, Strength”…so I guess in that way it would lead to power.
The fasces was used as a symbol of ‘Strength in Unity’ back when the ancient city states were operating separately…and thus were vulnerable to invasions from outside forces.
A battle ax was added later, to symbolize “In Unity We Fight”…or “Unified In Battle”.
The lictors were basically just ceremonial guards, used in processions and as escorts for officials.
They didn’t use the fasces as an actual weapon.
While inside Rome…the battle ax was removed from the fasces, unless it was being used in a triumphal procession after winning a battle.
The ax was removed, to signify that the Roman people were sovereign…not the consuls.
The fasces without the battle axes, were used in the Lincoln Memorial sculpture:
Our Founders and subsequent leaders, considered the fasces a good symbol for the Unity of our United States.
That is why they used it our architecture and coinage.
The fasces of ancient times was a symbol of voluntary unity.
The distinction here is important.
Our country was formed this way…through voluntary unity.
When Mussolini came along, he perverted this ancient concept of Strength In Unity…into ‘forced unity’.
He co-opted and used the fasces symbol, to brazenly justify his policy of forcing unity upon the Italian people, to make them submit to socialism.
Mussolini and his Fascist Party forcibly suppressed any opposition to their socialist policies.
And they called it ‘unity’.
This is why the term “fascist” and “fascism” has come to be known as ‘The forcible suppression of any opposing views’.
Understanding the history behind the fasces as a symbol has never more Important, than right now.
The Leftist Takeover of our schools has resulted in this bit of history being dropped.
This allows the Antifuh people to point to the fasces symbols in our historical buildings, sculptures and coinage…and declare that “The US is a fascist country!”
This is why the leftist mobs drape themselves in such ‘righteous’ rebelliousness.
They have been brainwashed with lies…and think that they are on the right side of things.
The fasces was considered a ‘good’ symbol — until Mussolini came along!
It was Mussolini, a socialist, who turned it into a symbol of oppression.
So it is really ironic…that the Left is now using that symbol against us, to try and force socialism on us.
A great reminder – we need HISTORY to beat these Marxists. The early history of the United States that they were DESIGNED to destroy.
Exactly so, boss.
For you, Steve.
I hope this posts…it’s another example of the fasces without a battle axe.
Ack…that should be:
Understanding the history behind the fasces as a symbol has never been more Important, than right now.
I hate it when I drop words.
And what is exasperating, is that when I proof-read…my brain auto-fills the missing words so I don’t notice that there are missing words!
If you have the luxury of time–which you certainly didn’t, and I rarely do–you should go back the next day (or even several days later) and proofread once more. By that time you will have forgotten what you thought you were saying in sentences (though you will remember your main point unless your name is Joe Biden), and those sorts of errors will jump out at you. (Misspelled words might not do so however because as soon as you hit them your brain will fill them in.)
Thanks for the amplification/correction, BTW!
Well said, Wheatie.
A very important lesson.
It is like the Swastika symbol which is an ancient symbol.
Swastika is a Sanskrit word which means “good existence”, “well being”, “good luck”
Hitler perverted it, based on the idea that it was a symbol of the Aryan race.
By the way there was never an Aryan (or its counterpart Dravidian) race. This was cooked by the “Indologist” Max Mueller who found the word ‘Arya’ in the Sanskrit text of the ancient Vedic civilization of India (known as Bharatiya then). This words simply means ‘noble’.
History of the Swastika : Why Hitler Stole It
Yes…and it was also a Native American symbol for ‘good luck’.
Wasn’t that the fasces that were on the folding dollar trick that appeared to be be burning ? I might be wrong and only going by memory…
Not sure, Molly.
I thought it was building cornices and the like.
Exactly why I think the entire “symbolism’ thing is overplayed except perhaps to scholars that love to delve into it.
Some like to talk about baseball stats while others get their kicks pointing out the symbolism in literally every thing.
It was, I should have been clear, a symbol of the power entrusted to the magistrate, when carried by his lictors. In the context of the broader Roman state, it did mean all those things you mentioned.
“Notice one key, PG-13 detail about this coin…the exposed breast.”
I never knew that we had a bare breast on one of our Quarters!
And yeah…I’ll bet that got some frowny pucker-faces when that came out.
Shame, too…because that’s a lovely coin.
Thanks for the article on the coins, Steve!
Your coinage articles are always good…but this one was especially good.
And I agree, that is “a kick ass eagle on the reverse” side of that Walking Liberty half dollar.
Should kept that eagle. BOSS
Well, when we went to the Franklin half dollar, they wanted to highlight the Liberty Bell. A not unworthy thing, but there was this awkward law that said there HAD to be an eagle on the back of our large silver denominations. So they stuck this dinky little eagle on there to fulfill the letter of the law.
And then Kennedy stopped a few bullets, so we got something greatly resembling the presidential seal on the reverse. I don’t dislike that design, actually.
Then when the silver eagle came out, they used Liberty from the Walking Liberty half dollar…but came up with a totally different (and much lamer) eagle for the reverse, trying (as has often been done) to render something based on the Great Seal of the United States.
And yes, it’s absolutely my favorite US coinage eagle EVER.
The left is going ape-shit berzerk.
Get this….here is an IRANIAN….check out that ratio….
The replies are EPIC…😂🤣😂
Even Wictor gets in on this…
“Over our dead bodies, literally”. …Be careful for what you wish.
Is this guy even an American?
If he is naturalized he can be send back where he came from
Starting fires is something that those fake refugees over in Europe have been doing.
They have no respect for the western countries that took them in.
They consider those countries ‘fools’ for doing it.
Between Brennan’s treachery with the Da’esh and HusseinO secretly flying in thousands of muslim ‘refugees’…I’m thinking that there are a lot of islamic operatives mixed in with the Demoncrat mobs.
It’s more than them thinking we’re fools.
They view all these benefits AS THEIR DUE: The Jizrah, the “tax” put on non-Moslems. So, if they decide to up and burn down their FREE living quarters, throw away their food, trash everything in site, etc., etc., etc., then it*s up to US to APOLOGIZE, REPLACE IT, and that, like YESTERDAY!!!
No. They are ANIMALS. And, together with the Greens, they hope to return Germany, and Europe, and the rest of the world to the SIXTH CENTURY. If not the NEANDERTHAL times…
And then Merde-Kuh says, “OK, we’ll take another 3000” (I think that was about all that were in that camp where they burned themselves out). And the libturd Green cities say, “We have plenty of room”…
Room, perhaps, but funding? And what about all the additional violence, theft, looting, rapes, murders, insurrection, etc.????? Libturds don’ like to think about that (as if they ever think at all). Nerp, it’s just another peaceful jihad for them…..
It’s insane, Cuppa.
The good people of Germany are going to have to start fighting back.
Did a quick check on Reza…born in Tehran. Converted to Christianity (certainly talks like a Christian, doesn’t he?) and still is active in the religious circles, but reverted back to the Muslim beliefs. Currently teaches in California….oh good.
I would think that tweet could be taken as a direct threat, don’t you?
Not that I disagree in this particular case…
But now I know how to manipulate Thomas Osweda/Carlos Wictor.
Make of him a terrorist demand to do exactly the opposite of what I want him to do.
The TRUMP PAGE
Reading some of the remarks from Democrats on the passing of RBG. Instead of mourning her they appear to have received their talking points because many of the tweets say “We are at War!” apparently with us! As if the riots weren’t enough now the Devil is unleashed.
I’m really rather stunned by a lot of this. The conservatives and Republicans have been respectful even with the differences, and the woman’s own people are pushing for war before she’s even in the ground.
That is not a mark of civilized people at all.
And a lot of the stuff from the Dems has just been…really nasty.
Too nasty to post here.
I’m wondering what these people’s table manners look like. Do they send hand written thank you notes? Forget appropriate fashion.
How far humanity can fall from what we can be.
Remember the Wellstone funeral. It was all politics for the Dems, and back then there were still a few decent folks on their side who were appalled, or maybe more of our side took notice. Anyway, we got a senate seat for a short time. Is that the one they stole – Norm Coleman – next election?
Thanks for this. Using it, I caught Twitter promoting conspiracy theories about RBG. Astounding.
Twitter PROMOTES what it wants to use to take us down.
Here is how it works. First image:
Twitter has manipulated a top reply to me which is NOT the most recent. I will get the most recent if I go to the actual Karli post – this one is two hours old – CANNOT be the most recent, even if it showed to me as the top reply when I went to her page – utterly impossible due to her popularity. So this is a SCAM – Twitter wants me to see this particular reply to her post.
WHY? Because it’s DISCREDITING. Twitter is not downplaying a conspiracy theory – it wants to promote it selectively for discreditation purposes.
Now – who is this person, using the word “comms”? “He” is a bot of some kind. Look:
This was a bot account created about 2 years ago. Very typical tells which I will not go into so that they can’t correct them.
What this means is that Twitter is AIDING the distraction of our accounts from critical arguments on RGB.
Whew…the Dems are really nasty on twitter.
Instead of mourning RBG, they are piling tons of hate on her for not retiring when HusseinO was in office.
There’s a hashtag #FillTheSeat that is getting a lot of activity from our fellow Deplorables.
There are some good memes, too:
what will they do if he nominates a woman???
I predict it’s gonna be Amy Coney Barrett.
They already have the scam ready for her. I realized this during Kavanaugh.
The Lawfare Playbook Is Already Written
I have this little niggling suspicion that because everyone thinks (and the Dims have been preparing the “dirt” as well as their attack on Amy Barrett)…POTUS may do one of his famous slight of hands tricks and nominate someone that is far under the radar.
That would definitely throw the Dims into an utter panic. Judge Barrett will be on deck for a future slot when things calm down post-election.
Who, of course, will be discovered to be the meaner younger sister of Ghislaine Maxwell. You know, the previously unknown spawn of Adolf Hitler and Mata Hari.
They’re unable to use their #MeToo lies, but don’t doubt the viciousness you’ll see from liberal women – they literally have rage against women like #amyconeybarrett. I’m looking forward to the #Catfight – decent women will see the hate up close.
Yikes, I *just* had a thought, and not a pleasant one.
Sometimes they like to make the point that harrassment/rape/inappropriate behavior is sometimes done by the female to the male (even if less likely to be backed up by greater force).
How many soy boy “victims” of her sexual harassment will come forward?
Thought of that, but doubt they’d come close to pulling it off.
Me thinks, skip the Roe V Wade stuff until confirmation is completed. We have a few too many weakling Rs…collins, Ski…
I tend to agree.
The simple fact is, most Americans could live with abortion being legal in the first trimester, and illegal after that. They really don’t care for absolutism on the issue in EITHER direction. They consider partial birth abortion a barbarity (let alone the actual post birth infanticide), but they find “ban it from the moment of conception” over-the-top ridiculous too.
Whoever is able to caricature the opposite side the best, wins the argument that day. Of late we’ve been able to highlight the partial birth/infanticide stuff and make it seem like supporting any legalized abortion is supporting THAT, so we seem to be ascendant…but if they can ever swing it around and bring back the coathanger argument, we lose.
Question of the week….
They’ll have to dig out some different slogans.
Their usual chant of “Black Lives Matter” might sound too pro-life…since RBG was a die-hard abortion advocate.
“Red Deaths Matter”? Hey, I’m reserving that for American Indians after Hillary finds uranium under a reservation, but it can be rented for a small fee….. 😉
Shared – Thanks, Dora – God Bless You!!!
More about her prophecy.
At La Salette, 174yrs ago: a prophecy & warning of 2 Popes.
I’m not sure we can comply with her so called dying wish. she didn’t want to be replaced until a NEW (her word) president was installed. If POTUS wins reelection, he won’t be a NEW president. so she intended for her seat to remain vacant for 4 years?
had she said until after the election…that I could see…I’m thinking the choice of words was deliberate–and maybe not her own.
YES! This statement has been bothering me because of the term ‘installed’, the attribution to her granddaughter and now here’s a third reason….’new’. Thanks Pat lol. I think you are right about ‘maybe not her own’.
yes, all we have are someone else’s assurances that this is what she said…and, of course, the dems are running with it…
Perpetrating the fraud? Not a fan of Heavy.com – but, there might be some useful information here into who and what and why RBG was close to her granddaughter – weird stuff here – so many ‘actors’ in her family
Everything about the idiotic statement attributed to RBG to delay her replacement is simply, ignorant. There is zero legal reason to delay a nomination and confirmation. Plenty of legal reasoning to move forward with great dispatch.