2021·07·24 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

Another week, another deluge of BS from the White House and from the Controlled Opposition.

The Audit continues.

The collapse of the Covidschina continues.

No doubt much will be said about those today. (And I have missed a lot this past week.)

To my mind the audits are the last hope for a within-the-system fix to what happened last November. “Within the system” meaning the audits find fraud, the various states decertify the results, and some dang judge rules that Biden must step down and Trump must be installed.

That last step is crucial. The way our system works, “fraud” isn’t a fact until some “competent authority” (i.e., meaning “one that has jurisdiction,” not “one that won’t end up with an ice cream cone on its forehead”) rules it is so. That must happen before the system will accept that the election is vitiated by fraud. No finding of fraud means, as far as they are concerned no fraud, no fraud means nothing vitiated. We sit and fume, because the system has failed.

I’ll leave it to you to decide how likely you think it is that a judge will rule against the Left given the riots that would likely endanger his/her family.

As for the military stepping forward and doing the job instead? Well, that’s technically “outside of the system” and besides…this military, that’s being made woke as we speak?

And as for the “this is just a movie” scenarios that posit that Trump is actually in charge…well, I was talking to a friend the other night and I said to him, “You know there are people who think this whole thing is fake and Trump is really in charge, can come back at any time, he’s just waiting for people to realize how bad the other side is?”

He didn’t believe me.

I told him to google “This is just a movie” and within seconds he came back to me with “I’ll be damned.” He was incredulous that anyone could actually believe such a thing.

I’m no longer incredulous, because I spend time here. (And I am no longer incredulous that some people think that failing to believe it is the same as giving up all hope.)

This is not to say that I believe Biden is actually in charge. I don’t. He is indeed a figurehead, not for Trump, but for the Deep State.

What do we do in the likely event that fraud is found, but no judge will find it to be “fact” as far as the Federal Government is concerned? I keep hoping someone will come up with a suggestion, and so far “general strike” (H/T Scott) is the only one I’ve seen.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system. (This doesn’t necessarily include deposing Joe and Hoe and putting Trump where he belongs, but it would certainly be a lot easier to fix our broken electoral system with the right people in charge.)

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is pointless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud in the system is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1812.20
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Platinum $1105.00
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Rhodium $20,100.00

This week, 3 PM MT on Friday, markets closed for the weekend

Gold $1802.80
Silver $25.26
Platinum $1065.00
Palladium $2760.00
Rhodium $19,500.00

Pretty steady! Yes, things are a bit down since this time last week, but things are pretty much bouncing around inside a trading range right now, yesterday happened to be down (but within the range) whereas last Friday was up (but within the range).

2500

This year is a BIG anniversary. Both in size and importance. It’s tough to pin down dates, more than “probably August and September” so I’ll talk about this before August.

This is the 2500th anniversary of the Battles of Thermopylae and Salamis, in 480 BC

One thing to get out of the way first. Someone is going to tell me that that anniversary was surely last year, after all wouldn’t 2500 years from any year ending in a zero, be a year ending in a zero?

Yes, provided you don’t cross the BC/AD divide.

480 years after 480 BC was not 0. It wasn’t even 0 BC. It was 1 AD. The year immediately after 1 BC was 1 AD, so 1 AD was 480 years after 480 BC, because 1 BC was 479 years after 480 BC. (This is because people back then thought in ordinals (1st, 2nd, 3rd) and didn’t, therefore have a concept of zero as being a number in its own right, rather than the lack of a number.)

And thus 2020 years after 1 AD, puts us right at now, 2021 AD.

Not that I’m counting, mind you.

Well, OK, this time I am counting. Because this counts.

A bit of background.

In 499 BC, the Persian empire extended from parts of present-day Afganistan, Turkmenistan, and Pakistan, through Iran (Persia), then on into Iraq, Syria, Jordan, and Lebanon, south through present-day Israel (the Persian Empire had allowed the Hebrews to return from captivity, but they were in charge nonetheless), down into Egypt, and across through Anatolia (the Asian part of Turkey); they had even gained a foothold in Europe, the region then called Thrace, but now the European part of Turkey, much of Bulgaria, and the north-easternmost part of mainland Greece.

The western coast of Anatolia/Turkey back then was largely Greek in culture, but those city-states, including ones like Ephesus (yes, that Ephesus that Paul both visited and wrote to a church in) and Miletus had been conquered by the Persian Empire. In 499 they staged a revolt, and Athens, plus a few other cities in what we now think of as Greece, helped them out. Athens even attacked the Persian satrapal capital city of Sardis and burned some temples.

The Persians were exactly as happy about that as you would be with a church being torched.

[Incidentally that area of present day Turkey, the Ionian coast, was still largely ethnic Greek until just after World War I. At that point any ethnic Greeks in Turkey, and any ethnic Turks in Greece, were forced to move out, in an instance of “ethnic cleansing.” So now Ephesus (“Efes” in Turkish) is quite thoroughly Turkish, though it wasn’t just barely a century ago.]

Once the revolt had been put down (by 493 BC), the Persians decided Athens had to be punished, and the entire region that is now “Greece” should be brought into the empire.

In 490 BC the Persians, under Darius the Great, attempted to invade Attica (the roughly triangular-shaped peninsula on which Athens sits; it was the territory that the city-state of Athens ruled at the time). Athens is near the west coast ofAttica, at the north side of the triangle. The invasion was at Marathon, on Attica’s east coast.

The invaders had about 25,000 infantry, 1000 cavalry, and many more men whose main role was to defend the ships that had brought the invasion force. Against them, Athens had 10,000 and one ally, Plataea, contributed another 1,000 men (these are modern estimates). The Persians also had 600 triremes (fast attack ships; I’ll have more to say about them later), which didn’t participate in the battle, which was fought on land.

The Athenians defeated the Persians, killing 4-5000 Persians and losing 192 Athenians and 11 Plataeans (according to Herodotus).

That is decidedly an ass-kicking!

The Athenians and Plataeans who were killed were buried on the battlefield in large mounds called tumuli, which are still there to this day–you can go visit them, if you can find your way past all the museums devoted to marathon running…which does have something to do with this but I don’t want to dive down that rabbit hole.

Tumulus of the Athenians at Marathon
Tumulus of the Plataeans at Marathon
Under the command of Miltiades (a modern statue, also at Marathon)

The battle of Marathon apparently happened on either August or September 12, 490 BC…but this is not what this article is about; it’s but a prelude, albeit a magnificent one.

After this failure Darius planned a bigger invasion, but died before it could come to fruition. It fell to his son Xerxes to finally bring the Greeks to heel.

[Xerxes, by the way, is our borrowing (and butchering) of a Greek butchering of the guy’s actual Persian name, which was Khshayarsha or Khashayarusha. In Greek it got spelled Ξέρξης, and at least our spelling is a reasonably accurate rendering of that. That first (and fourth) letter is pronounced in Greek as “ks” just like X usually is, but we got lazy centuries ago and just substituted a Z sound. I have heard at least one historian actually pronounce it like “ks.” Xerxes is likely he is the same person as King Ahasuerus in Esther.]

Legend (as repeated by Herodotus) has it that the Persian army numbered two or even three million men (!!); modern historians estimate anywhere from 70,000 to 300,000, that latter number still being humongous for that day.

Xerxes marched his men across the Dardanelles on a bridge specially made for the occasion (built over the hulls of ships), then across Thrace–which, again, was Persian territory. Paralleling them off shore was a naval force, modern estimates say anywhere between 400 and 1200 triremes.

Map of the situation in 480 (showing some of the battles that occurred that year).

That three prong “fork” at the very western edge of Persian territory was treacherous to sail around, particularly the easternmost “tine”, so Xerxes actually cut a canal through it.

After marching (and sailing) across Thrace, Macedonia, a vassal state of the Persian Empire (and the future home of someone named Alexander the Great), had to let them pass. Epirus and Thessaly were divided up among many Greek city states, and they remained neutral in this war. Finally the Persian army reached Thermopylae.

Thermopylae was a pass, but not a mountain pass like Coloradoans are used to, rather a pass between cliffs and the sea. The army had to march along the shoreline here. On one side were cliffs, on the other, the ocean. It was a tight squeeze, so the Greeks figured a small force should be able to hold the Persians back. Thermopylae is directly north of the letter C in PHOCIS in the map above.

In mid 480 BC, a Greek force of about 7,000 men marched to meet the Persians there. Meanwhile a naval force tried to block the Persians at the straits of Artemision (directly north of the word EUBOEA in the map above).

The ground force rather famously included 300 Spartans under King Leonidas

You know, these three hundred Spartans under this King Leonidas:

In late August or early September, the Persians arrived at the pass.

For seven days the 7,000 Greeks were able to hold off 150,000 Persians. Though to call them “Persians” obscures the fact that many, if not most, of them were supplied by places Persia had conquered.

After the second day, a Greek whose name is known to us today, but which I shall not repeat, told the Persians of a “back door” trail through the mountains and Leonidas, King of Sparta, serving as leader of the whole Greek force as well as the Spartans, realized he was going to be surrounded and annihilated. He dismissed almost the entire force, but the Spartans stayed behind–every single one volunteered to stay behind, saying in unison, “We have been ordered to defend the pass”–and the rest is history. Surrounded, they eventually succumbed.

Ὦ ξεῖν’, ἀγγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ὅτι τῇδε
κείμεθα, τοῖς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι

Stranger, go tell the Spartans
That we lie here
True, even to the death
To our Spartan way of life.

(From the epitaph that was placed there, the original is long gone, but was replaced in 1955.)

With the Spartans out of the way, the Persians marched on, and sacked, Athens.

The Athenians, of course, had fled–the fleet from Artemision, which had also lost its battle, had returned, and evacuated the Athenians to the nearby island of Salamis. (In the map below, the island of Salamis is the backward facing C; Athens is near the right hand side.)

The resistance on land had collapsed.

[No, it’s not “salamis” as in the food (saLAHmeez), it’s pronounced “SAL-a-miss” or “SAL-a-meese,” at least when English speakers butcher it.]

The Greek (mostly Athenian) navy, however, was still in the fight. It had taken a beating at Artemesion, but was still operational.

Now I must discuss the trireme.

Yes, the trireme seems laughably primitive to us today. But it was in fact a superbly engineered craft. It had exactly one purpose…to move as quickly as possible and strike and destroy an enemy ship with the ram in front, below the water line.

The picture above shows a modern replica of a trireme that was built during the last century according to the descriptions left to us by ancient sources. (Of course it has been photoshopped to look like an entire fleet, but it is an actual photograph, not a painting.) Engineers who have studied it cannot improve upon the old designs (given the technological constraints of the time, of course); the only exception was that the spacing between the rows of oarsmen was too close. But even here, another source was found which gives the spacing as being the actual optimum!

This replica, the Olympias, is now actually a commissioned ship of the modern Greek navy. They know and respect their history.

The ships were designed to be light, and were propelled by 170 oars, each powered by one man. Contrary to Ben Hur, these men were not slaves; they were free men fighting for their country. (And contra The Ten Commandments Israelite slaves did not build the pyramids, which were actually over 1000 years old at the time of Exodus. But no doubt the Egyptians gave them plenty of other things to do.)

Other ships, like merchant vessels, had hulls coated with lead to ward off water-borne ship worms that would bore into the wood and destroy the ships. This lead coating would have been dead weight on a trireme, so every night, the rowers would drag the ships onto the beach, to kill off any ship worms (they need water to live) and let the boat dry out. This had another benefit in that dry wood was lighter than waterlogged wood.

The Greek fleet consisted of ships from a number of city states, not just Athens, but they were under the command of an Athenian named Themistocles. He actually leaked misinformation to the Persians, letting them know about the route around the other side of Salamis and, yes, telling the Persians how to trap his force, but also causing them to divide their forces. So the Persians surrounded the Greek fleet, and waited for the Greeks to come to them. The Greeks did not. Instead, they pulled their ships up onto the shore, and got a good night’s sleep.

The Persian forces did not do this. Rather, their oarsmen stayed on the ships, and the ships stayed in the water, alert for any Greek attempt to escape.

Xerxes wanted a decisive battle. He had even set up a throne on the Attica mainland overlooking the strait to view it.

And the next day he got it.

As that day dawned, the Persian rowers had not had any sleep in 24 hours. Their triremes–essentially identical to the Greek ones–were waterlogged and heavy, and thus would be slower even if the oarsmen had been well rested. There were about 30 soldiers staged on the top of each one, making them top-heavy.

A rested, fit man can put out 1.2 horsepower for a brief period of time, or .1 horsepower continuously. But only one side was rested.

And that was the side that had one more thing going for it: They were motivated more too. Imagine an Egyptian, a Medean, or a Babylonian oarsman on one of those Persian ships. How much does he want to fight for that dang Persian “King of Kings”? Whereas the Greeks were fighting for their homes and freedom.

As it happened the Persian ships were too numerous. In the tight confines of the strait, they largely got in each other’s way. It was another ass-whupping, by the Greeks.

This happened right under the eyes of Xerxes himself. He was no help; some of his ships’ captains did stupid things trying to impress him.

This was in September of 480 BC, two months shy of 2500 years ago.

The Persian army now had no naval support and could go no further south. Sparta, among other city states, would not be sacked by the Persians.

Indeed Xerxes feared that the Greeks would attack the bridge across the Dardanelles, and took most of his army back with him, leaving his second in command, Mardonius in charge to finish the job the next year.

Instead, the next year saw the battle of Plataea on land–destroying what was left of the Persian army–and the nearly simultaneous naval battle of Mycale, where the remnants of the Persian fleet were destroyed.

Greece would continue to be a thorn in Persia’s side for over a century, until Phillip of Macedon conquered the entire region at the Battle of Chaeronea in 338 BC. His son, Alexander the Great would then go on to conquer Persia.

That Battle of Chaeronea marked the end of Greek independence, which would not be restored for over two thousand years.

OK, so returning to Thermopylae and Salamis: Why does this matter?

Look at that date: 480 BC.

This date was before the Athenian democracy. It was before the great tragedies and comedies. It was before the great philosophers Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. And all that other stuff we associate with Western Civilization. The only Greek culture we can readily think of that comes from before that year is Homer’s Illiad and Odyssey. And if the Persians had won, none of that would have happened. And no one today would give a rat’s ass about Homer, either–if indeed, he wouldn’t have been long forgotten.

Don’t think that the Romans would have started Western Civilization even without Greek help. The Persians would no doubt have worked their way over to the Italian peninsula. Rome in the 400s and 300s had not really gotten started. Maybe they would have held Persia off. Maybe not. But unless they had a one-in-a-billion Alexander type too, they’d never have gotten the Eastern Mediterranean which was actually the more valuable part of their empire. (They had enough trouble fighting Parthia in the 200s AD even from a position of strength…and that was basically another, later Persian empire.)

And there would have been no Alexander the Great. Macedon was a vassal of Persia; it probably would have been entirely absorbed between 480 and the 330s BC, meaning no king for him to be the son of. And even if he had, what culture would he have spread throughout the ancient world?

Our entire Western heritage would not exist; it would have been derailed before it got started.

And it turned on the Battle of Salamis, 2500 years ago. Here’s to…

…years and counting, not that I’m counting, mind you, of Western Civilization thanks to his man and his fellow Greeks!

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

To conclude: My standard Public Service Announcement. We don’t want to forget this!!!

Remember Hong Kong!!!

If anyone ends up in the cell right next to him, tell him I said “hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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cthulhu

TANJ!!!

— little fish.

gil00

Ok that was an awesome history lesson and i really like that you brought it to western history. And here, if the ds is xerxes persians, someone some group are the Spartans….and we will defend our homes, no matter if they bring in the un or use other methods.

Wolf Moon

WE are the Spartans. People who will pick up their spear and sword and FOLLOW.

gil00

CornPop ☭ (@RealC0rnP0p) Tweeted:
@JaniceDean @SteveScalise @TheJusticeDept https://t.co/bv3C12Ej2H

scott467

Should have seen this coming a million light years away.

Everything will be like this going forward, because:

A) they have the power to do it

B) so far, no one will try to stop them

C) it is a very effective demoralization technique to commit an atrocity (e.g., murder thousands of helpless elderly people in nursing homes), make sure the public knows it was murder, and then close all investigations so there is no justice

It’s demoralization 101.

And demoralization (along with division and isolation) of the population is critical in order for a tyrannical government to maintain control.

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Wolf Moon

Exactly. And THIS is why we have to SPREAD THE WORD of their EVIL.

ForGodandCountry

Guess what? It’s not working.

scott467

“Guess what? It’s not working.”

_____________

“There will be no justice for our loved ones, and it feels like we’ve lost them all over again.”

You think she’s not demoralized?

If you didn’t lose a family member to a mass-murder event at a nursing home, then the shutting down of investigations and intentional lack of justice will affect you differently.

Just wait, they’ll get around to subjects closer to your heart.

Communist regimes are very accommodating in that regard.

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singingsoul1

If Hitler was allive he would be proud of this regime. The dark side of humanity is revealed. The Devil is real.

gil00

LivePDDave 🇺🇸 🚨 🥊 (@LivePDDave1) Tweeted:
Former DEA Agent Tells Tucker Carlson FBI Informant “Friend” Invited Him To Capitol On Jan 6, Pressured Him To Go Inside [VIDEO] https://t.co/Hbj8HxLG0v via @gatewaypundit

Wolf Moon

This is it! They’re now going after people like me, for being too close to the Capitol Building!

Listen to the interview. The guy didn’t go in, but they’re desperate to charge him.

TREASONOUS FIB! COMMIE DODGE!

cthulhu

All the while, their cases are imploding. Watch the half-Whitmer case in MI. The Fumbling Bureaucratic Incompetents are spoiling anything they touch.

Wolf Moon

It’s self-destruction. It’s rather wild to watch.

cthulhu

And remember the two “insurrection deaths” that turned out to be Capitol Police suicides. What did they know that drove them to that act?

Wolf Moon

Not everybody is made out to be a Nancy Gambino. I will bet that people who realized it was a set-up of Trump, and that they had assisted, were not exactly feeling proud of the badge at that point.

But moreover, they might have TALKED. And that is why I tend to believe they were killed. Faked suicides are a real thing, and I think those people would be taken out if they so much as hinted in comms to friends or family what had really happened.

Remember – this is NANCY PELOSI covering up. This is MAFIA.

I think they killed anybody who even LOOKED like talking.

cthulhu

To-may-to, to-mah-to….

Wolf Moon

Both evil.

cthulhu

One could debate whether taking one’s life to avoid talking might be worse for the soul than having one’s life taken by others against the possibility of squealing. Clearly, the virtuous course would have been to spill the beans before one might be killed….

singingsoul1

Bingo

bflyjesusgrl

Explains Sicknick and why they were so quick to cremate him.

singingsoul1

Maybe they were helped in suicides. Two men who knew to much. Just what I think.

cthulhu

We knew early on that they’d go after those in front (curiously omitting their paid instigators). Then they’d go on after those who walked in afterward. Then they’d go after those who observed. Then they’d go after anyone who showed up, and eventually they’d go after the hundreds of thousands who were in DC that day and the millions who voted for Trump. Slicing the salami.

The problem is — and we’re seeing that in parallel — their entire narrative was engineered, based on fraud and government misbehavior, and their cases are ever weaker even as they try to extend them farther.

Very soon now, some judge will release the 14,000 hours of CCTV with 60 minutes warning. Soon after, a large number of habeas corpus will get processed. And the rip tide will pull the plotters out among the sharks.

Wolf Moon

Things are getting interesting – that is for sure.

cthulhu

And it just keeps getting wilder and wilder….

https://www.thenewneo.com/2021/07/23/the-tangled-web-more-on-the-whitmer-kidnapping-plot-the-fbi-and-entrapment/

“I’ve managed to infiltrate this group and it’s too tame. Let’s recruit a psycho…..”

Wolf Moon

Notice that the DEA guy backs off on saying that the FIB informant was trying to set him up. He can’t PROVE IT, so he undercuts what he SUSPECTS is true.

I think the FIB asset was trying to set him up. And I think it’s important to speak the truth. DO NOT RETREAT from the truth.

cthulhu

It is important to speak the truth where profitable to do so. DO NOT SPEAK truth, falsehood, opinion, Bible quotations, weather reports, or citations from the Constitution to Federal Agents.

Wolf Moon

I was looking for some place for the DAILY REMINDER.

cthulhu

This is the place.

Grandmaintexas

I don’t trust this guy. Something else is going on. This is another type of set up.

His words and demeanor are not kosher. I felt like Tucker was leading him.

The guy’s lawyer was not present with him but at another location.

Something stinks to high heaven.

Aubergine

Thank you Grandma! I got the same vibe off of this guy. Something is off.

Wolf Moon

OK – here is a theory. And I think you’re RIGHT.

Let’s mix in what I noticed.

Tucker seemed taken aback (or FAKING IT really well) when Ibrahim said that his friend the FBI guy wasn’t trying to set him up – after all of Tucker’s monologue. Tucker tried to hide it, but I think he may have just realized that he got scammed there. In other words, Ibrahim led Tucker on, maybe sounded great in the green room, but then FLIPPED his story out on camera.

So here is how the scam works.

The guy is WORKING WITH DODGE, FIB, and the new woke DEA.

The whole thing is an ACT. He’s there to be a SCARY DEMONSTRATION that all of Trump’s supporters are at risk. SCARY!

Message: “If they can do that to HIM, they can do it to ANYBODY!”

Why? Because SELF-CENSORSHIP is the SOVIET GOAL always. He’s an “intimidation example” – and as a DEA guy, he’s trained to feign the other side.

Yeah, this makes sense.

Right now, today’s job is SET TUCKER CARLSON UP. So he goes through all the motions, but then he clams up when the heat is on and says “OH NOES, FIB DIDN’T TRY TO SET ME UP, MY FRIEND THE FBI INFORMANT IS A GOOD GUY, IT’S ALL SO UNFAIR!”. Now there are ways to make somebody clam up – I have great stories that way I can’t detail, but I have been in that spot myself. People can clam up for all kinds of reasons.

But I don’t think he clammed. I think he PRETENDED to clam up.

Yeah, this makes sense. It’s ACTING. It’s DRAMA. And we all – including Tucker Carlson* (*unless Tucker was in on it) – fell for it.

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Aubergine

I think most of what is happening with the Feebs and their current actions is designed to scare Trump supporters into shutting up. They KNOW they can’t arrest 100 million Americans. They KNOW our arguments are ever more powerful in the wake of the disasters of the Biden regime, the deaths from the poison pretending to be a vaccine, etc.

They desperately need us to shut up.

Wolf Moon

YUP. YUP. YUP.

Aubergine

That’s why they attack this site, too.

Wolf Moon

They need to shut us up, but they don’t want a BACKFIRE.

singingsoul1

Is not going to happen.

Grandmaintexas

I also noticed he said that it was horrible what happened and he didn’t support at all the violence, etc.

But he left the audience to fill in the blank that it was Trump supporters and NOT heroic FBI/DEA agents. No, he was just there to HELP PROTECT US.

Eff off.

singingsoul1

That is it ! It is out that informants were present and encouraging and yes he is trying to psyop and is not working.

“But he left the audience to fill in the blank that it was Trump supporters and NOT heroic FBI/DEA agents. No, he was just there to HELP PROTECT US”.

Wolf Moon

Yes, something off about it, and I think it’s PSY-OP.

bflyjesusgrl

Watch and see what his punishment is. I bet he made a deal w/Fib to do this to Tucker for a lighter sentence.😉 Win/Win.

scott467

“Tucker tried to hide it, but I think he may have just realized that he got scammed there. In other words, Ibrahim led Tucker on, maybe sounded great in the green room, but then FLIPPED his story out on camera.”

_____________

But Tucker has been doing this job long enough to know exactly how to handle that on live TV.

Which would be to start laughing at the guy, call him a liar on national TV, tell his audience that he just interviewed this guy personally in the green room 20 minutes before the show, and the liar told a completely different story.

Then look in the camera and say “This is your FIB, liars and traitors who are subverting our country”.

That would have been the natural and instinctive response, if this FIB guy Ibrahim had outright lied to Tucker before the show, and flipped 180 degrees once the cameras were rolling.

Even Geraldo would have jumped all over that, and started throwing chairs 😂 🤣 😂

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Wolf Moon

You make a great point. Will be interesting to watch what unfolds. 😎

Coldeadhands

Good catch…once again raises the question: what “Role” Is Tucker being cast in? Apparently he’s the only high profile Fox personality holding out on the jab. This has the earmarks of controlled opposition.

Gingersmom2009

My husband watches Tucker religiously, that’s it on cable news. And defends him religiously too. The Fox/Fox Business evening line-up used to be droning on here in the old days. That won’t happen again.

That being said, I never trusted Tucker Carlson. I don’t trust anyone whose windows are shut so tight that you have no idea what’s inside. Carlson works so damn hard at telegraphing outrage, but it’s never quite believable. It’s always packaged the very same way, in those neat little segments, with exactly the same verbal eyerolls and higher-order snark. And then the box is packed up and moved to the side. Rinse and repeat.

Lou Dobbs’ windows were wide open.

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Aubergine

Agreed. Tucker seems manufactured to me.

singingsoul1

Never trust even Tucker he has to much to loose.

Sadie Slays

Australia is hardcore locking down. I recommend paying attention to what’s going on down there because you all know darn well that this is the same plan they have for the rest of the world. It’s winter in Australia right now. For those in the northern hemisphere, I recommend spending the rest of the summer and autumn prepping, taking care of any business/repairs/matters that might be complicated during a lockdown, etc. 

Entire towns being “sealed shut” where nobody can leave (skip to 0:37 in the video):

Australians being forced into quarantine camps hotels:

Headlines about military checkpoints:

Aussie explains why people feel powerless to fight back:

This tweet thread is what got me started on this whole tangent:

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gil00

So they think if they comply it’ll just go away?
The businesses are clised and not having money for fines and lawsuits is a given.
Grow a set and fight back, en masse.

scott467

I’m sure the problem is that nobody wants to go first, because if they go it alone, it’s suicide.

And the government, knowing this, is making it as difficult as possible for the People to meet in order to unite, so nobody has to ‘go it alone’.

Hence the lockdowns.

Lockdowns were needed to take over the world, country by country.

An excuse was needed for lockdowns.

Covid is that excuse.

gil00

Yes i agree with all that, which it why they went hard esp going to church. But people have moved around and talked. If auntyfah can use secret chat rooms and organize then some patriots in many places can begin. Unless the just have mental breakdowns in other countries and go kamikazi.

scott467

“If auntyfah can use secret chat rooms and organize then some patriots in many places can begin.”

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Except those methods were discovered and revealed, so we can be sure the surveillance state is monitoring any such activity today, and better at it now than they were last year, or the year before.

Not only because of advances in technology, but because they could not be more highly motivated to maintain power, now that everyone is realizing the government is illegitimate and tyrannical.

It seems that the best way to unite and organize is to do so publicly, in person and all across the Internet, on forums just like this one.

It is entirely lawful to do so, no one can credibly be accused of doing anything wrong while purposely conducting their affairs in full public view.

All that is necessary to win is for a significant minority to unite and then withdraw the consent of the governed, in every meaningful way that can be done.

Even just 30% of the population of a nation like ours would be more than enough.

Aubergine

Your idea of a strike is a good one. We don’t have to “do” anything except QUIT.

If they try to mandate masks and lockdowns across the country again, that is exactly what we should do.

I know people will worry about money, losing their jobs, etc. But really, aren’t they anyway? The economy is going to shit, prices are skyrocketing, and pretty soon money won’t mean shit if we don’t do something.

singingsoul1

I feel sorry for people who financially overextended themselves and cannot afford to loose one paycheck. They depend on two income.
Bigger and bigger and more and more is not always better.
That is the fear all financially driven.

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Aubergine

I have never had money, ever. Anything we do will be a hardship for my family. But what else can we do?

singingsoul1

You have more than money have can give you.

Aubergine

I do!

I have never been poor, I am rich. Just not in money.

singingsoul1

That is the best kind. Look at all the super rich they all have problems. God Bless you 🙂

Aubergine

And blessings to you, too!

singingsoul1

🙂

Wolf Moon

EXACTLY.

We have to REJECT THE COVID MADNESS and demand that CHINA, DEMOCRATS and FAUCI be punished for it.

singingsoul1

Good show today on Bannon concerning Fauci. He is a powerful bad dude. He owns the congress and Universities and all research .

Wolf Moon

VERY interesting. Medical mafia. Hmmmmm.

scott467

If it is as bad as it appears, and I have no reason to think it isn’t, the problem for the government in Australia is that they have reached the point of no return.

And the police have too.

Because when the People of Australia regain control, the leadership of the government are all dead.

D.E.A.D.

It doesn’t matter whether it’s a contagious mental illness only infecting government types, or whether it’s Chinese infiltration / bribery / blackmail, or whether it was space aliens who took over the bodies of government leaders, or any other conceivable excuse.

The simple reality is that the government of Australia has declared War on the People of Australia.

If the People have the opportunity to regain control, there won’t be trials at this point, they will do the Mussolini on the leadership.

And the government knows it.

They are past the point of no return. There is no way to ‘walk back’ what they have already done. It is so far beyond the pale, what they have already done is so far beyond dangerous, what other remedy is available to the People?

So that just leaves the military, and whether any of those pansies have a spine.

And when this is over, once the People of this world have retaken control, no Western government will ever structured again like it is today.

Because the #1 priority of People everywhere will be to make sure this cannot ever happen again.

Well, that will be the #2 priority, actually.

The #1 priority will be to (lawyer appeasement: capture, try, convict and) put to death every Communist and Fascist on the planet responsible for this attempted world takeover, and all of their boot-licking toadies.

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gil00

I agree this much.
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bflyjesusgrl

The People outnumber the Government. If the people rise up and push back, they’ll outnumber the military too. 😉 Is the Australian and other Governments ready to go all Tiananmen on their people?

Wolf Moon

YES. They’re as bad as Democrats, who are as bad as CCP.

They WILL kill us if they have an excuse.

They are CRIMINALS – like Nancy Gambino.

They need MEANS, MOTIVE, and OPPORTUNITY.

ForGodandCountry

Militant post.

Scott does not believe in the peaceful solution.

MLK’s way is the only way.

Aubergine

Scott has suggested a “strike” by all Americans, which is definitely along the lines of MLK and peaceful.

He has also used “Myanmar,” in which the lawful military of the country took over the government because it was corrupt.

Suggesting our military do something is entirely different that suggesting we do it, which would be militant.

Wolf Moon

Well said.

Aubergine

Thanks. I’ve had about enough of mis-characterizations of what other posters are saying 😉

scott467

Thank you Aubergine! 🙂👍

Aubergine

Any time.

I will not let a mis-characterization of someone’s statements to go unchallenged when I know better. Too dangerous.

scott467

“Militant post.”

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It’s a reality post, based on the natural right of self defense.

Are you opposed to lawful self-defense now?

Would you have sided with Mussolini?

It was also a post about another country, whose laws have nothing to do with me, unless I am in their country, which I am not.

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“Scott does not believe in the peaceful solution.”

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Of course I do, what do you think a national strike is all about?

What happens if the criminals decide they don’t feel like giving up? What if they decide they are not going to step down, or turn themselves in, no matter how long you peacefully protest?

They control the money, they control the food, they have fortified positions and the woke transgender military to defend them.

So they can outlast any peaceful protest, if they choose to. And in the history of the world, has there ever been a tyrannical government which voluntarily gave up when they had control over money, food, fortified defensive positions and the military?

If the tyrannical government decides to do what every other tyrannical government in the history of the world has ever done, and they decide to stand pat rather than surrender to the peaceful protestors, then what do you do then?

If you’re not prepared for that extreme likelihood, if you don’t have a plan for that, then what are you really talking about here?

I have asked several times, and you never answer. If there is a single example, in the history of mankind, where a tyrannical regime was successfully defeated by peaceful protest, what is that example?

Because if it ever happened before, in the history of the world, we should do exactly what they did, and achieve the same desired result.

But if it has never happened before, then by definition, would it not be some new thing under the sun?

Red pill?

Or blue pill for you?

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“MLK’s way is the only way.”

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I’m all for it, why aren’t we doing it?

How did that work out for MLK?

MLK wasn’t trying to peacefully advocate for the removal of a corrupt and lawless government, he was trying to achieve social change WITHIN an existing system of law and culture, which at the time was still based on Christian values and beliefs.

We’re not in Kansas anymore.

The corrupt people in that system, who were a minority at the time, murdered MLK.

The corrupt people in our government are not a minority today.

We are dealing with a lawless and illegitimate government — literally, people who STOLE a national election, committed massive election fraud in broad daylight, in the most powerful nation on earth — aided and abetted by foreign adversaries (at the very least), or controlled and owned by foreign adversaries (at worst).

And they have weaponized the power of government against the People.

Even so, I have repeatedly advocated for what might be called a national strike, a united withdrawal of consent of the governed, which would be entirely peaceful and not militant at all.

I’m just curious what your plan is, if Marie Bidenette’s response to this yet to materialize peaceful protest is to let us eat cake.

Wolf Moon

They’re going full China.

ozzytrumpster

We are not impressed but we have a slow burn

TheseTruths

I’ve been wondering about what you are witnessing and experiencing there.

ozzytrumpster

Health and govt officials have gone batshit crazy.
They’ve offered the vaccines
They’ve demanded people take it and aussies are like yeah,nah

ozzytrumpster

Thousands of Australians Protest Lockdowns in Sydney, Melbourne

Deplorable Patriot

I’ve been thinking about this. Specifically, thinking about using the military in this way. Storm Rider has been pointing out all the military positioning that’s been going on world wide. Supposedly, this is in preparation for the big false flag event coming up. Could the COVID lockdowns coming now be a cover for keeping people out of crowded areas when it goes down? And would the military being positioned against COVID restriction violations be a cover for putting troops in places they normally wouldn’t be?

All speculation, but since the year of COVID was used as a trap for election cheating, could the good guys be still using it for their purposes in plain sight?

Good fiction authors know to use anything and everything available in a story for plot twists. Are we seeing one?

TheseTruths

Could the COVID lockdowns coming now be a cover for keeping people out of crowded areas when it goes down?

Wouldn’t that assume that the commie mayors and governors imposing the lockdowns really have altlruistic motives, and that they’re acting in concert with the white hats to save the people instead of ruin their lives? And the lockdowns are not universal, at least for now.

eilert

Because it’s actual tyranny. Ordinary Australians cannot afford to cop massive fines and even arrest & charges. Those commenting from outside the country have no idea what we’re dealing with. Police are enforcing everything & they’re talking about using troops next.

That is because you let your government take away your guns.
Same with New Zealand after the guy in Crist Church.

singingsoul1

Communism is full display.
Once people get over the fear of death the hell will break loose.

scott467

“This will necessarily be piecemeal, state by state, which is why I am encouraged by those states working to change their laws to alleviate the fraud both via computer and via bogus voters. If enough states do that we might end up with a working majority in Congress and that would be something Trump never really had.”

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I keep hearing Orson Welles’ voice from Citizen Kane:

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Except the voice I hear isn’t saying “Rosebud”.

It’s saying Myanmar… 👍😁

Wolf Moon

BRILLIANT!!!

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Sadie Slays

Israel is cracking down hard on vaccine refusers. Transcript from a speech their PM gave the other night:

Dear citizens, those who refuse vaccines are endangering their health, those around them and the freedom of every Israeli citizen. They are endangering our freedom to work, the freedom of our children to learn and the freedom to hold celebrations with the family.

Those who refuse vaccines hurt us all because if all of us were vaccinated, we would all be able to maintain daily life. But if one million Israelis continue to not get

vaccinated, this will oblige the eight million others to shut themselves in their homes.

Therefore, the [Corona] Cabinet decided today that as of 8 August, those who refuse vaccines will not be able to go to the cinema, the theater, the synagogue, the amusement park, the soccer game or any activity with over 100 people, indoors or out, unless they bring negative results from a coronavirus test, at their expense. Yes, they will fully bear the costs of the test.

There is no reason why the taxpayers and people who have carried out their civic duty and have been vaccinated should finance tests for those who refuse to get vaccinated.

Regarding flights, people who have been vaccinated will be able to fly to the clean countries and return; after they receive negative test results in Israel, they will be exempt from quarantine.

But on the other hand, those who refuse to get vaccinated will enter quarantine for a week, no matter what country they will have returned from. These actions will help us block the morbidity. From here, I appeal to everyone who knows someone who refuses to get vaccinated: Persuade them. Explain to them that they will not hurt others. Persuade and explain – do not give up.

https://www.gov.il/en/departments/news/event_statement220721

gil00

No rights by God only by govt.

bflyjesusgrl

OMG, it’s like Everyone…is…afraid…of…getting…sick!! It’s unpleasant but it’s part of life.
The young and healthy who get WuFlu usually get over it. If infected, the elderly, health compromised, others, should get on the treatment protocol ASAP. Escalate to regeneron plasma if needed.

99.xx% SURVIVAL

EARLY TREATMENT is the key.

Jeez, usually when we get sick, we go to Doc, they give us meds to treat and we get better. Sometimes we treat ourselves and get better.

Injecting a DNA altering, spike protein generating, limited tested substance with no idea of long term effects that has already been shown to cause illness/disability/death into humans is complete INSANITY. SMDH at the MAD MAD WORLD.

Wolf Moon

Stay sane. That’s all you can do.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s becoming increasingly difficult.

Aubergine

It is really hard to stay sane in this gaslighting, screwed-up world.

Some days it is all just too much.

Sometimes I think if it was an either/or proposition, the vaccine either does nothing or kills me outright, with no risk of just having to live with debilitating symptoms for God knows how long, I’d just take the thing.

Then I come to my senses and realize suicide is a sin.

singingsoul1

We are stronger than we think specially with God who is our Hope.

para59r

Daniel Horowitz, with Conservative Review and the Blaze has the right take on this.

This is a detailed look at what’s happened in India in comparison with other countries. Horowitz was one of the very few that explained last years summer surge was coming from Mexico and no place else.

Horowitz: Data from India continues to blow up the ‘Delta’ fear narrative

OP-ED   

Rather than proving the need to sow more panic, fear, and control over people, the story from India — the source of the “Delta” variant — continues to refute every current premise of COVID fascism.

The prevailing narrative from Fauci, Walensky, and company is that Delta is more serious than anything before, and even though vaccines are even less effective against it, its spread proves the need to vaccinate even more people. Unless we do that, we must return to the very effective lockdowns and masks. In reality, India’s experience proves the opposite true; namely:

  1. Delta is largely an attenuated version, with a much lower fatality rate, that for most people is akin to a cold.
  2. Masks failed to stop the spread there.
  3. The country has come close to the herd immunity threshold with just 3% vaccinated.
  4. Most people are now getting cold-like symptoms from Delta, but to the extent countries hit by Delta suffered some deaths and serious illness, they could have been avoided not with vaccines and masks, but with early and preventive treatment like ivermectin.

Continues with lots of charts, graphs, audio and more.

https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-data-from-india-continues-to-blow-up-the-delta-fear-narrative

Wolf Moon

This sounds like the beginning of a Marek trap if we take the vaccines.

Deplorable Patriot

This is EXACTLY what it is. Get the people hooked on vaccines.

I’m so sick of this. It seems from where I am, the people who rushed out and got shots and all of that are hypochondriacs whose drug habits just found a new high. And those of us who aren’t playing along are being carrot and sticked, blackmailed, etc. I’ve found the best defense is not to volunteer my status. Just go on with life, keep your mouth shut, and listen to the level of neuroticness go off the charts.

And what’s going to happen when the real truth is told? These people are going to freak out, and overdose on vitamin C. They are NOT going to want to hear to eat clean. And with the haze, getting vitamin D in the sun is a real issue. That’s even going to have to be supplemented more.

Crimes against humanity is an understatement.

Wolf Moon

DP, I think *WE* have to literally IMPLEMENT “they won’t be able to walk the streets”. It’s up to us.

That means we don’t take the vaccine, because we have to publicly STATE why we’re not going to. We say “Look at Sweden. Why are they immune? Because they followed 1960s common sense, and didn’t listen to the lying Faucis, and the leftist radicals that took over America.”

Deplorable Patriot

At this particular point, publicly stating WHY one makes the choice not to be part of the experiment will get you nowhere. It is not sinking in with the sheep that it’s an experiment. They’re clinging to “emergency” moreso than “experimental” as a modifier.

There’s entirely too much emotional blackmail in play for any rational thinking to take place. And, like I said, the hypochondriacs got a new brand of crack, essentially. They’ve been trained to cut the thinking people out of their lives.

And with vaccines, this has been going on for decades. Trust me, as a flu shot refuser, it’s been going on a long time.

Aubergine

Yeah, I get you on the flu shot thing. People have treated me like a nut because I won’t take it.

singingsoul1

The only one who know I am not taking the jab is my family and I keep it that way.

Aubergine

Stand strong! They’re going to need you to be healthy.

singingsoul1

I always have walked my own path and no one except God can change that. 🙂

Aubergine

I love it!

Please

From my post above :

“Aside from any harmful effects, I also feel strongly that the vax should be rejected on the grounds that it is another tool of control for the cabal.
 
I may not know exactly what purpose(s) it serves in their scheme towards world domination, but it *IS* a part of that plan.”

Wolf Moon

The common sense that said “you don’t get vaccinated for a cold” in the 1960s is STILL OPERATING.

singingsoul1

I do not do well with vaccines even flu vaccine. I always got sick when I never got sick before. All the educated people from science field told me I was wrong it just showed the vaccine was working. Funny they did not get sick I guess the vaccine was not working?
I never took much meds of any kind in my life and therefore very sensitive even taking Aspirin. I only have to take one to get the same benefits people get from two.
I am not taking gene therapy and do not care if I am an outcast so what?

eilert

In some of the states like Utra-Pradesh they actually used Ivermectin extensively. In those states the per capita COVID incent and death rate is one of the lowest.

In the image above they compare Maharashtra with Utra-Pradradesh. Maharashtra refuses to use Ivermectin (it is the state were all the Big-Pharma companies are situated). Also Utra-Pradesh is the state with largest population.

By the way today is World Ivermectin Day:
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TheseTruths

The consequences of the ongoing lockdowns are far worse than business shutdowns because half of their employees are home with the flu, which would be a temporary scenario. People get sick, get treated, have a couple of weeks off from work and then have natural immunity, and life goes on.

singingsoul1

Perfect way to sink small business and make everyone dependent on big brother.
“No one owns anything and they will be happy”.

Please

I tried to post this yesterday and a much longer rant a couple days ago but they wouldn’t ‘take’… I’ve been having problems accessing here:
 
“Aside from any harmful effects, I also feel strongly that the vax should be rejected on the grounds that it is another tool of control for the cabal.
 
I may not know exactly what purpose(s) it serves in their scheme towards world domination, but it *IS* a part of that plan.

The people who sponsored the creation of the virus in a lab, most likely set it loose at just the right time to keep regular people isolated and out of work to close down the Trump Economy and usher in mail-in ballots to steal the election. These same people created the vax and profit from the vax. 
 
I reject the vax because faux bidden didnt win!”

In addition,These are questions to ask sheep when the vax comes up:

Why isn’t the govt sharing info on daily immunity health like Zinc, Vit D and C?

Why aren’t treatments discussed. You hear of tons of people getting it, like athletes, but you never hear how they beat it or what their experience was.

There are 5-10 players a day in MLB that test positive. No one dies. Most are out until they test neg, a few days. Some are out for a week or two, but there is never any story on what they did and how did it go? They all have been vaxxed. Are they under a ‘no talk’ rule?

Why did(still are) the govt suppress Ivermectin and HCQ?

singingsoul1

That is the biggest crime forcing people into an experimental gene therapy it is not a vaccine just because they want us to call it that .
The other crime is denying us the meds that can save our lives. You have the right question.

” Why did(still are) the govt suppress Ivermectin and HCQ?”

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singingsoul1

If the evil governments would allow meds that can fight of the virus way less people would die. The regimes are the enemy of the people they are the Hitler, Stalin and Mao of our times. They kill not the way the tyranns did in the past but in a different method by denying people the proven meds.
See Fauci and this regime like you would see Hitler, Stalin and Mao then you got the picture of truth. Yes I know I bring my own what I saw and heard with me.

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Grandmaintexas

You are entirely correct. Political evil has the same old playbook, just different faces. In the end it comes to this:

COMPLY OR DIE.

singingsoul1

I am not complying never did not going to start now.

Wolf Moon

Looks like Israel has a KAPO PROBLEM too.

scott467

It’s one erroneous argument after another, so obviously so, that the intention must be to purposely use illogic or unreason to confuse and demoralize the population.

I mean, it’s really pathetic, this is sad to see a grown adult make arguments this terrible.

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Dear citizens, those who refuse vaccines are endangering their health, those around them and the freedom of every Israeli citizen.

That’s not true and he knows it, and it has nothing to do with freedom, ‘freedom’ is just an emotional anchor to attach his lie to.

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They are endangering our freedom to work, the freedom of our children to learn and the freedom to hold celebrations with the family.”

That’s not true, it’s psychological projection, it is very obviously the government which is endangering everyone’s freedom, not the People.

It is always thus, and never the opposite.

Governments are always a threat to freedom.

Guess who never is?

The People.

Prime Minister Naftali Bennett is a liar.

It is possible he has a reason for lying. Maybe space aliens have landed in Israel, and told him that if everyone doesn’t take the vaxx, the space aliens will incinerate the planet. That would be an example of a reason.

But it would still be a bald faced lie, and that’s exactly what he’s doing.

Lying.

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Those who refuse vaccines hurt us all because if all of us were vaccinated, we would all be able to maintain daily life.”

That is a logical fallacy, a non-sequitur, in combination with employing the word ‘hurt’ as an emotional trigger.

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But if one million Israelis continue to not get vaccinated, this will oblige the eight million others to shut themselves in their homes.”

Hey it’s a free country (yeah, right… 😂 ), so if they want to stay in their homes in fear, that’s their right… right?

The vaccines don’t work anyway.

In fact, this bald faced liar’s entire premise exposes the fact that the vaccines don’t work, because if vaccinated people were actually protected from getting the virus, they wouldn’t have to hide in their homes from the people who refuse to get vaxxed, and the unvaxxed people would all die from Covid, while the vaxxed people laughed at them in safety and immunity.

It’s embarrassing how easy it is to pick this apart, even the government can easily to better than this, so it was clearly meant to be insulting to the recipient’s intelligence.

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Therefore, the [Corona] Cabinet decided today that as of 8 August, those who refuse vaccines will not be able to go to the cinema, the theater, the synagogue, the amusement park, the soccer game or any activity with over 100 people, indoors or out, unless they bring negative results from a coronavirus test, at their expense.”

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Hang on a second there Wojack… you just (falsely) stated that the people who refused to get vaxxed are endangering “the freedom of every Israeli citizen”, but the FACT is that you are eliminating the freedom of those who refused to get vaxxed.

You portray the vaxxed as the victims who have to hide in their homes like incompetents, blame the unvaxxed for the plight of the incompetents, and then steal the freedom of the unvaxxed while accusing the unvaxxed of endangering the freedom of the incompetents.

The bald faced liar is accusing the unvaxxed of stealing freedom, while he openly steals freedom from the unvaxxed.

It’s a psychological projection word-salad pretzel.

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Yes, they will fully bear the costs of the test.     There is no reason why the taxpayers and people who have carried out their civic duty and have been vaccinated should finance tests for those who refuse to get vaccinated.”

This is a misdirection ploy, shifting focus from the needlessness of any test itself to a ‘fairness’ argument about who should bear the cost for needless tests. He is providing a talking point for the corporate media to focus on and hammer relentlessly, so they don’t have to address the absurdity of the entire premise.

This is like pre-school level propaganda, and they can do much better than this if they wanted to, so clearly it’s supposed to be an affront to the audience’s intelligence.

There is no reason for anyone to pay for bogus tests, just as there is no reason for anyone to take a dangerous, untested experimental vaccine, because cheap, effective and readily available treatments for China’s Virus already exist.

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Regarding flights, people who have been vaccinated will be able to fly to the clean countries and return;

Clean countries, eh?

Which country’s hands are clean in this global takeover attempt, traitor boy?

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after they receive negative test results in Israel, they will be exempt from quarantine.”

Sorry Bolshevik, but you don’t have the lawful right to suspend the rights of the People, for any reason, much less a fraudulent one.

So sorry, but thanks for playing.

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But on the other hand, those who refuse to get vaccinated will enter quarantine for a week, no matter what country they will have returned from.”

Based on what lawful authority?

Where is the law that has been passed, and if one ever is passed, how will it withstand Constitutional scrutiny, when the entire premise for lawlessly violating everyone’s rights is a fraud?

Are you admitting you are a dictator now?

Because only dictators get to dictate terms which wantonly violate the rights of the People, dick-tater.

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These actions will help us block the morbidity.”

Shame on you.

You’re a shameful and pathetic excuse for a leader.

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From here, I appeal to everyone who knows someone who refuses to get vaccinated: Persuade them. Explain to them that they will not hurt others.

The people who refuse the vaxx already know they won’t hurt others. What they’re concerned about is being hurt themselves, by your government poison.

Which, of course, you know full well, because you are a liar, Mr. Naftali Bennett.

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Persuade and explain –

With each passing day, we have more evidence to persuade the vaxxed and expose your treachery, not the other way around.

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do not give up.”

Don’t you worry — I won’t. 👍 😁 😘

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Concerned Virginian

And, likely sooner rather than later, PM Bennett will reduce that “100 persons” amount to “50 persons”, then to “25 persons”, then to “10 persons”, then to “0 persons”. Once the “0 persons” has been decreed, and there are still Israelis who refuse the “vaccine”, there’s the possibility of another decree — that the “refuseniks” will have to wear a government-issued “refusenik ID device”; and/or be confined to their homes. One would not be surprised to learn that plans are already being made by the Bennett government to remove the children of the “refuseniks” until the parents knuckle under.

Valerie Curren

government-issued “refusenik ID device”” I hear yellow stars might work well/s

singingsoul1

Does that mean that those who did not get the jab and cannot partake in life and liberty that is offered do not have to pay taxes? (S)

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RAC

That the non jabbed are a problem is a stupid argument.
The jabbed, with all their “special freedoms” can and do still catch it and pass it on, they can and must infect each other
The un-jabbed elect to take their own chance, and as far as overburdening hospitals is concerned, I wouldn’t want to go any where near one.

Wolf Moon

THE NON-SWEDISH ARE THE PROBLEM.

Wolf Moon

This is critical to remember. NATURAL IMMUNITY WAS THE ANSWER ALL ALONG. STOP DOUBLING DOWN ON BAD VACCINES.

TradeBait2

You would not believe the crap I got from people when I said that last year. You could tell after a few months by the stats/trends. Sweden and a handful of others let nature take its course. It was about real herd immunity then and it will always be about real herd immunity. I have never been against real vaccines in the proper applications, however, fake/experimental vaccines are not part of herd immunity. They only prolong a communicable disease outbreak. Proactive individual immune system development combined with therapeutics and clean, smart living will see anybody through the troubled waters with minimal damage.

People are generally brain dead when it comes to critical thinking anymore.

Wolf Moon

Yes. Critical thinking went out in the 1970s, thanks to our Soviet-trained idiots taking over, under the cover of “PC”.

Science in America began to be strongly “guided by the media” into overt falsehoods in the late 60’s or early 70’s, although the “Rockefeller chemical hubris and overkill” in the early 20th century is very similar to the “Fauci molecular biological hubris and overkill” now.

Vaccination went off the rails when they started using vaccines for children instead of letting them catch the childhood diseases. There was no proof that we were conferring quality lifelong immunity – we just WENT THERE and hoped for the best, IMO. Mumps epidemics on ships and the like prove that it was NOT quality immunity.

COVID, however, is an even nastier weak disease problem. The vaccines are notably inferior to even flu vaccines, and have much nastier side effects than even the most needed vaccines. They are at the top of the list to NOT be mandatory. And yet – presto, change-o, reverso – Soviet Democrats turn all things upside-down.

Nope. We have to push back, all the way to the FAUCI LEVEL. The MEDICAL MAFIA must be overthrown by TRUTH.

RAC

If I get it I intend to ride it out at home, or not, am too old to feckin care.

cthulhu

I’ve got ivermectin in-house. I can experiment with decoctions of cinchona while that’s doing its thing.

Aubergine

Me, too! And hydroxychloroquine. I have stuff growing in the yard that works, also. NO hospitals!

Wolf Moon

You probably already had it. THAT is the shocker.

Gingersmom2009

This may have already made the rounds here, has been on gab for 2 days.

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wyomingknucklehead

I absolutely love this.

Wolf Moon

It’s a great strategy. Especially if you say “all diseases with a higher absolute morbidity than any variant of COVID-19 in any age group”. Which is damn near every disease!

Valerie Curren

Thanks! your version allowed me to save it on Pinterest 🙂

Wolf Moon

I love this thing!

Grandmaintexas

I’m just going to say it.

This is the road to National Socialism.

If the Jews cannot see that then perhaps the apocalyptic delusion from Scripture is here.

Aubergine

When the Jews become the Nazis, well…

Wolf Moon

I was going to say the same thing earlier. Just WOW.

singingsoul1

That is heart breaking  😥 

singingsoul1

I feel bad for Israel have they not learned from the past what tyranny looks like feels like? Why are they fallowing tyrannical methods on their own people? What kind of leaders have sprung up?

cthulhu

So today, maybe, marks the triumphant return of the Apollo 11 astronauts to earth.

It is known to the second when it happened.

At 16:44 UTC (05:44 local time), Columbia’s drogue parachutes were deployed — and the capsule hit the water seven minutes later. They were 2,660 km east of Wake Island, and 380 km south of Johnston Atoll. And they were on the other side of the International Date Line. So what day you’d like to celebrate the anniversary on is somewhat ambiguous, particularly if you were in, say, Fiji.

The official dates for the whole kit and kaboodle were July 16-24, 1969 — an incredibly short amount of time for such a momentous accomplishment. All told, Armstrong and Aldrin spent 21 hours, 36 minutes on the lunar surface, with only about two and a quarter hours outside the lunar module.

But in that brief moment, the nature of space travel was changed.

Linda

Can you explain in simple terms how those astronauts got through the Van Allen radiation belt without getting fried? That’s the number one comment of people who don’t believe the moon landing really happened.

Linda

Thank you. I’ll give that link to people who continue to post that nonsense.

Wolf Moon

That is SUCH a great article.

Wolf Moon

That is an awesome link!

Sadie Slays

More specifically, why did NASA put out a video about the Van Allen belt in 2014 claiming, “We must solve these challenges before we send people through this region of space” (0:37 in first video below)? The official narrative says that we’ve already been through that region of space with 1960s technology. Those challenges should have been already solved. I don’t doubt that FG&C’s link explains “the science,” but it doesn’t explain why NASA itself would make a statement like this.

Here’s a longer version:

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cthulhu

Let me take a swing at this.

Because by 2014, NASA had been changed from science-based accomplishment-driven organization to one that prioritized Muslim-outreach and ignorance.

Wolf Moon

Because we CHEATED in the 1960s.

We did NOT send people through the roughest parts of radiation belts with impunity. We did NOT send people during times of solar flares. We did NOT send people as the optimal times for the missions, and on the optimal trajectories for the missions, that we COULD have sent them, had we been able to more effectively ignore radiation.

Bluntly, we only HALF-SOLVED the problem back then – with 1960s materials (bulky, heavy) and by cheating to send people through weak fields.

We have to continuously solve it better.

cthulhu

Apollo 11 was the Doolittle Raid of Space Travel.

Doesn’t make it any less of an accomplishment.

Wolf Moon

GREAT analogy!!!

Wolf Moon

Yup. I’ll bet we’re looking at Mars solutions and radiation is the one thing that, if solved, would open up all the best possibilities.

Wolf Moon

YUP!!! Two birds with one stone – whole mission gets benefits.

Wolf Moon

And we will solve it, and CHINA will steal it.

cthulhu

Not to worry. Their knockoffs aren’t good for as many use-cycles as American originals. They’ll probably be able to send stuff to Mars, but have it fall apart on the way back.

cthulhu

Free LED flashlight with every purchase!!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

And one of those spinning glitter things where you squeeze the trigger, and the glitter wheel spins and makes noise…

Used to get those in Chinatown (SF) 60+ years ago… in stores where there were strange smells after dark and half-hidden passages to dim rooms…

cthulhu

I’m thinking that human compartments will be wrapped in fuel, air, and water.

cthulhu

Or what is deliverable cargo.

I envision that we’ll have Legrange cargo stations that assemble air, water, fuel, etc. There would be similar cargo stations in orbit around the moon and Mars. If you want to ship people from Earth to moon, you head up to a “hotel” by the cargo station, get a crew capsule, wrap it in goodies that the cargo station wants, then go cargo-to-cargo.

At the moon cargo station, everything is unwrapped, and you transfer to the moon “hotel” station before arranging “local transport” to the surface.

bflyjesusgrl

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Wolf Moon

These are the very simple truths that tell you if your government is trustworthy.

Linda

This is a short video from the Hal Turner show site in which he says that military officers all over the country are telling their people to get stocked up on food immediately, that the supply problem is going to get much worse very soon. I hope everyone here is stocked up.

Wolf Moon

Thanks, Linda!

scott467

Col. Roy Potter!

I used to watch his videos nearly every evening back in the early days when Q was still a new phenomenon. 👍

Wolf Moon

Dodge is starting to charge people who were OUTSIDE THE BUILDING and peacefully protesting. FIB is arresting them. Prancy Nancy Mafiosi is sending her minions out into America.

I think things are definitely going south.

Cuppa Covfefe

Poligrip Pavement Princess Mafiosi Piglosi d’Alessandro Gambino…

Maybe her teeth will stick shut… then again, Poligrip is probably alcohol soluble…

RF121

In 1774 peeps were gathering in taverns and churches, talking about their grievances. A small percentage took this to the revolutionary War 2 years latter. We have bigger hurdles. Entrenched gubmint with paramilitary support. We will get one shot. Choose wisely.

scott467

“We will get one shot. Choose wisely.”

___________

I’m not sure that approach can work, psychologically.

One shot means infinite pressure and irrevocable loss in the event of failure, and the chances of a disorganized population working together, much less taking ‘one shot’ and succeeding, have to be less than zero. I could certainly be wrong and I hope I am.

But inflicting death by a million paper cuts seems like a low pressure, low risk, high reward approach.

The government is actually very small compared to the size of the population. The military is very small too, compared to the size of the population.

They can’t just start rounding people up and murdering them, because the People are armed, and no matter how reluctant the People are to use those arms, they will do so if cornered.

And once one person defends himself against a lawless and tyrannical government action, and his family is murdered (e.g. Randy Weaver, et al.), ten more will do it, because it will become clear instantly that the government has decided the People are dead either way.

And once ten more do, a hundred more will. And so on.

The government doesn’t want that, because they can’t control it.

They don’t have the resources to arrest a hundred million patriots, and they can’t start murdering us, so they have to ‘manage’ us with psy-ops.

There is nothing unlawful about publicly organizing to resist lawless and tyrannical government, our entire Declaration of Independence and Constitution are based on resisting lawless tyranny.

Our entire nation was founded on resisting lawless and tyrannical government.

So as long as we are very public in our efforts, and our efforts are lawful, we can be very effective and be safe at the same time.

Like a Mexican standoff.

Except once the tipping point is reached, of people realizing they’re frogs in a pot and the lawless government is turning up the temperature, time is on our side, not theirs.

There are an unlimited number of things We the People can do, lawfully, to throw a million monkey wrenches in the machine, lawfully.

Loosely organized non-compliance will eventually lead to a frustrated bureaucrat using government force to commit an atrocity against the People.

That atrocity will eliminate any remnant of moral authority the government has, and will galvanize and unite those who were not already resisting the illegitimate and lawless government.

They can’t arrest everybody, and they can’t just start murdering people.

That means it’s a chess match.

We have no king or queen for them to target (but they do).

We have at least a hundred million pawns, they have maybe one million, so we outnumber them 100 to 1.

All we have to do is engage in consistent, semi-organized non-compliance, and we win.

As SD often reminds us, TPTB cannot govern without the consent of the governed. If enough people stop obeying, there is nothing TPTB can do about it. 👍 🙂

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Deplorable Patriot

And spy Karens everywhere. It makes finding like minded people really difficult on the ground.

Grandmaintexas

We need some spy “Betsys” on our side. In honor of Betsy Ross. 😁

bflyjesusgrl

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cthulhu

I would have been so tempted to make the space next to those “Reserved for Plaid Vehicles” and painted a vehicle plaid to park there.

Cuppa Covfefe

Or maybe one of these… the place we bought our Golf III offered us a straght-up trade to take it (with a VR6, no less) because we were the only ones interested in it … wife didn’t want the VR6 in that light of a car… I still think they’re cool…
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Cuppa Covfefe

Annnnnnddddddd,

They’re back. They have a special Anniversary Edition Polo in Holland…

Have to wonder what a ticket or accident or theft report would look like….

A red/blue/yellow/pink/fuschia/green Polo was last seen speeding along I-5 (or the A5 over here) after having been stolen….

Trouble is, they’re VERY rare. If I’d known how rare, we’d probably have taken the trade…. only 300 or so were made for the USA… drat…

Never have to worry about losing it in a parking lot 😆   :wpds_idea: 

bflyjesusgrl

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Wolf Moon

Demonrats. They’re demons.

Barb Meier

Democrats block = admission of guilt.

singingsoul1

We have the proof they are owned by CCP.

bflyjesusgrl

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Wolf Moon

THIS!!!

bflyjesusgrl

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para59r

Not to mention how totally cognitive, fresh and gleeful he appeared in that short clip, unlike most any other time during this theft. Also way past his bed time.

Aubergine

I would bet a lot that the reason he is saying this is GUILT.

He doesn’t literally drink the blood of children, but they are infusing him with it.

And he is senile now, and approaching his meeting with the Maker of us all. His FEAR and GUILT are overwhelming his lying self-preservation instincts.

Count on it.

Concerned Virginian

Nothing like a Freudian slip now, is there?

bflyjesusgrl

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singingsoul1

Abraham Lincoln’s words is the truth we need engrave within us to survive this current regime.

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Wolf Moon

Excellent! Taking on the SCAMMERS of the COMMIE LEFT.

singingsoul1

Looks to me that “The Southern Poverty Law Center” has turnend into a hate group except they do not know .

bflyjesusgrl

Oh, they know. Just Dems being Dems.

para59r

As to any history lesson there’s always more to tell and never enough room to do it. Though this is a minor point when compared to the larger picture Steve provided us, (actually it’s a minor contributing point) I think it deserves some telling since so few are aware of it.

It concerns a certain Greek Captain that fought briefly at the Battle of Salamis, except she fought for Persians, and not for the Greeks.

Persian Wars

When Xerxes went to war against Greece (480–479 BCE), Artemisia was the only woman among his commanders. She brought five ships of the 70 total sent to battle, and those five ships were forces with a reputation for ferocity and valor. Herodotus suggests that Xerxes selected Artemisia to lead a squadron to embarrass the Greeks, and indeed, when they heard about it, the Greeks offered a reward of 10,000 drachmas (about three years wages for a workman) for capturing Artemisia. No one succeeded in claiming the prize.

After winning the battle at Thermopylae in August of 480 BCE, Xerxes sent Mardonius to talk to each of his naval commanders separately about the upcoming battle of Salamis. Artemisia was the only one who advised against a sea battle, suggesting that Xerxes instead wait offshore for what she saw as the inevitable retreat or attack the Peloponnese on shore. She was quite blunt about their chances against the Greek armada, saying that the rest of the Persian naval commanders—Egyptians, Cypriots, Cilicians, and Pamphylians—were not up to the challenge. While he was pleased that she provided a separate viewpoint, Xerxes ignored her advice, choosing to follow the majority opinion.

Battle of Salamis

During the battle, Artemisia’s found her flagship was being chased by an Athenian vessel and had no chance of escape. She rammed a friendly vessel which was commanded by the Calyndians and their king Damasithymos; the ship sank with all hands. The Athenian, confused by her actions, assumed she was either a Greek ship or a deserter, and left Artemisia’s ship to chase others. Had the Greek commander realized who he was chasing, and recalled the price on her head, he would not have changed course. No one from the Calyndian ship survived, and Xerxes was impressed at her nerve and daring, saying “My men have become women, and my women, men.”

After the failure at Salamis, Xerxes abandoned his invasion of Greece—and Artemisia is credited with persuading him to make this decision. As a reward, Xerxes sent her to Ephesus to take care of his illegitimate sons.

More both before and after concerning Artemisia, Queen of  Halicarnassus.

https://www.thoughtco.com/artemisia-warrior-queen-of-halicarnassus-3528382

para59r

-Halicarnassus was a Greek colony in what is now Turkey–i.e., it was one that was already part of the Persian Empire. –

Yes, for brevities sake left direct reference to that out (there is indirect ref in the above), as its covered in the link. Supports your piece.

-No trireme wreck- I’m sure there would be arguments, like how were triremes really fashioned? Would they bust up on the sea floor? Your water log comments. And the big one.. possible point to you, Father of Lies, Herodotus.. so who knows.

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para59r

Of course not, nor is he the only source on Artemisa.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemisia_I_of_Caria

cthulhu

Hmmm….QR tattoos…..

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/lightning-lap-dances-vegas-strip-now-accepts-bitcoin-payments

Just how many QR tattoos per performer?

ozzytrumpster

Excellent history lesson on one of the great hinges
saw this

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cthulhu

If only it were so easy.

The key is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek's_disease .

Once upon a time (1907), there was a virus that caused serious disease in chickens. Not a huge deal, but there it was. A vaccine was developed (1970) that headed-off the more serious effects, but vaccinated chickens still carried and shed the disease, each one a “typhoid clucky.” Since the virus then spread everywhere, it had plenty of places to mutate…..and some forms of the virus would bring instant death to unvaccinated chickens.

Currently, every chicken in existence must be forever isolated from other chickens (and other birds), or develop horrible tumors and die, or be vaccinated.

Pharma and Fauci are intentionally recapitulating Marek’s disease among humans. If they succeed, we’ll need to pay them a perpetual royalty or face extinction.

Wolf Moon

I think Sweden is the irrefutable argument at this point, and they know it.

Natural immunity was the answer all along, as a sane system would have foreseen. The vaccines are an unnecessary elaboration that the criminals mind-controlled us into believing.

scott467

“The vaccines are an unnecessary elaboration that the criminals mind-controlled us into believing.”

____________

Except me…

😂🤣😂

Wolf Moon

Are you sure? Go back and ask yourself – at all times since this started, were you adamantly never going to take any vaccine for it under any circumstances? I’m not saying you weren’t, but I don’t recall you being one of the “nevervaxx” antivaxxers here. Maybe you just didn’t say so.

I seem to recall you being obviously “no vaccine – they can’t be trusted” at a certain point, but early on, I don’t really recall anybody here saying “I will never take a vaccine for this stuff” – particularly when it looked like “airborne Ebola”. I think we were all bamboozled, to some extent, early on.

scott467

I’m pretty sure I was anti-vaxx from the get-go, not because I’m opposed to real vaccines for real illnesses, but because this China Virus should have been called ‘Suspicious Cat Virus’ from the beginning, and people here were onto it early.

Before anyone was even talking about a vaccine, much less developing one, we all knew China Virus was a political scam to oust the sitting president (among other things).

But whether I was against or not isn’t why I do the ‘except me’ or ‘not me’ posts.

I do those because most of the posts that include everybody being fooled or conned or deceived are like a psy-op in the sense that it’s demoralizing and makes it seem like we are always the victim.

Somebody has to be the ‘not me’ guy, because the humor is like an antidote to the tension or demoralization created by most of the kinds of posts I respond to that way.

Like that scene from Life of Brian, where John Cleese (going by memory) is explaining to Brian that they’ve all done some thing, and it was very serious (maybe an initation ritual or something), and then one of the group says “Except me”, and John Cleese says “Oh right, not Stan, but everybody else, 100%”

It’s the one guy who has to be different that makes it funny 😂 🤣 😂

Wolf Moon

Well, now that you explain it, it actually IS funny.

And since my “psy-opping” isn’t going to change, and you aren’t, either, I’ll just say “carry on”. 😉

Aubergine

I was so sure I had already had it (in November 2019) that I felt from the beginning I was probably immune.

Wolf Moon

The data now says (those papers cited by Dr. Bhakrit) that almost EVERYBODY who gets it, shows some prior immunity from other coronas, OR from COVID itself.

Aubergine

Well, of course, because some common colds are coronas, and we’ve all been exposed to those.

Wolf Moon

And THAT is how they snookered us. Comparisons to Ebola and SARS made early and often – little comparison to the realities. Morbidity fell like a ROCK toward REALITY over the first few months.

Wolf Moon

It took that immunologist to talk back to the “no prior immunity” assertions.

Aubergine

I read somewhere about T-cell immunity to the virus fairly early on. That would be the “conferred immunity” from other corona viruses.

Other illnesses and old age reduce T-cells, which would explain why elderly and co-morbid people didn’t fare as well.

Cuppa Covfefe

Somehow I get a picture in my mind (like the movivators/demotivators posters) with ScarfLady Birx and the caption:

“She sells T-Cells by the sea shore”… maybe the one in NSW (Oz)…

Or New Zealand, which appears to be the Elites’ escape route of choice…

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Aubergine

Lol!

Cuppa Covfefe

One might say

COVID-19: uncommon code for the common cold…..