Dear MAGA: 20211205 Open Topic

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But I Don’t FEEL Saved . . .

Assurance of salvation is of utmost importance for the Christian. When a believer does not “feel” saved it can cause severe anxiety. Many of us have struggled deeply with this issue. At times it may be almost crippling, spending hours in God’s Word to find what it means to be assured in Christ. The “I never knew you” verse from Matthew 7 may rest heavily on our minds.  “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.  Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’  Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7:21-23

So, what do we do when we don’t “feel” saved?

Understanding The Realities

When we’re struggling with assurance, we’re struggling with our own hearts to know whether or not we are a Christian. Frequently, our underlying assumption may be that our assurance is directly connected to our feelings and emotions. In other words, our belief is “If I don’t feel saved, then I must not be saved.” A problem with approaching assurance in this manner is that it allows our emotions, which shift and sway daily, to govern what’s true. As people, we are far more fickle and frail than we’d like to believe. Our emotions and feelings can change on a dime. In light of this, why would we allow what we feel to shape what we believe about our status in Christ?

Ultimately our assurance lies in the promises of God in Christ, not in our particular feelings on a specific day.

Saint and Sinner

As a believer, our never-ending battle with sin is a big cause of a lack of assurance. How many times have we promised ourselves that “I will never sin in this way again,” only to fall once again the next day? Many of us fight this battle. The Apostle Paul wrote, “For I do not do the good I want, but the evil I do not want is what I keep on doing” (Romans 7:19) about his battle with sin. It can be so disheartening to one day we find delight in obedience, only to then find pleasure in sin the next. This experience can open up a flood of inner turmoil: “Am I genuine?” and “Would a real Christian struggle this much?”

Romans 7 tells us that as Christians we are simultaneously saint and sinner. As we pilgrims travel through the Christian life, we continually struggle with sin and failure. But in all of our battle with our flesh, Romans 8:1 brings us great gospel hope: There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. “No article of faith is more difficult to believe than ‘I believe in the forgiveness of sins,’” preached Martin Luther. But the good news of the gospel is that our status in Christ is not contingent upon our best days of obedience or worst days of failure, but rather upon the perfect work of Christ on our behalf.

Outward and Upward 

There’s a great Latin phrase that brings comfort to a weary heart and soul: extra nos. It means, “outside ourselves” and serves to remind us where our salvation truly lies. Often, what can cause a great deal of personal anxiety in terms of assurance is constant introspection. Certainly, there are times to look within, but when we long to find security in ourselves, we will constantly come up short. Assurance of salvation will never be found in measuring our obedience, the amount of sins we have overcome, or how holy we think we are. God’s moral standard in His Law is far too high (i.e., perfect) for us to think we can find comfort in our works.

Our assurance lies extra nos; namely, that we are saved by grace alone, through faith alone, on account of Christ alone (Titus 3:4-7). When we long for the comfort of being assured that we are saved, looking at our good works (or lack thereof) is like a mirage in a desert—it always promises but never delivers. Instead, the focus of the Christian life is outward and upward. When our souls are troubled and begin to doubt, comfort lies outside of ourselves in the grace of God given in Christ (Psalm 42).

Christ Alone

The great hymn writer Horatius Bonar gives us great words in the hymn Not What My Hands Have Done. 

“Not what my hands have done can save my guilty soul;
Not what my toiling flesh has borne can make my spirit whole.
Not what I feel or do can give me peace with God;
Not all my prayers, and sighs and tears can bear my awful load.

Thy work alone, O Christ, can ease this weight of sin
Thy blood alone O Lamb of God, can give me peace within.
Thy love to me O God, not mine, O Lord, to Thee
Can rid me of this dark unrest, And set my spirit free!”


Some thoughts –

God made Adam and Eve the way He did, fully knowing that they would disobey His single requirement that they not eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. And yet “God saw all that he had made, and it was very good.”

Ages before God “knit us in the womb”, He knew He would draw us to Himself as Christians, and He knew all of the successes and failures that we would experience in our lives. After all, God chose to make us the way He did. Our successes and failures are part of God’s plan for our lives, and, specifically, for our Christian walk. We don’t understand this now, but God assures us that “all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.” Romans 8:28

We Christians are not adopted into God’s family as children because we attended church with our folks twice on Sunday and on Wednesday evenings, or because we went to a revival meeting with friends, or responded to our pastor’s invitation and said a prayer with him in front of the congregation, or because we’re a member of a local church, or because we routinely participate in some rites our church thinks are the duty of practicing Christians.

We are God’s children because God gave His Son, Jesus, to die as full payment for our sins, to absolve us of guilt, and to count us as righteous. He raised Jesus from the dead as a promise to us to be raised from the dead at the last day.  And Jesus now sits at the right hand of the Father, interceding on our behalf.

We are God’s children because God then drew us to Himself, and He will never let even one of us slip from His loving arms. All God asks of us is that we believe . . . that we have faith in His Son. And, as incomprehensible as this may sound, even the faith that we have is a gift from God (Ephesians 2:8) and is given by God’s mercy (Romans 9:15-16), by God’s election, and not by any works of ours (Romans 9:11).

All of God and none of me!

Some verses to think about –

No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day. John 6:44

And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. John 6:39

For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:40

Everyone the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will never drive away. John 6:37

For You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him. John 17:2

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believes on him is not condemned: but he that believes not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. John 3:16-18

Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believes in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever lives and believes in me shall never die. Believest thou this?  John 11:25-26

For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.  Romans 5:10

He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?  Romans 8:32

He that believes on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believes not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abides on him.  John 3:36

On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up

Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”

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Wolf Moon

Eye of the Needle website was just removed and taken down.


Wow. This is getting crazy.

Deplorable Patriot

St. Athanasius, please pray for Archbishop Vigano. He follows in your footsteps.

Wolf Moon


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And now this….

Website that Publishes Archbishop Vigano’s Speeches and Video Is Taken Down – Three Weeks After He Calls for Worldwide Conference Against the Globalist Threat


We can see clearly what they are afraid off that Christians of all stripes can get together for one purpose to save Christianity and humanity.

Wolf Moon

This lady describes how Bill Gates took over WHO using his Trojan horse organization GAVI.

“It was special: Organizations such as GAVI – the Global Alliance for Vaccine Immunization led by Bill Gates – they came to WHO in 2006 with funding. Since then, the WHO has developed into a new type of international organization. GAVI gained more and more influence, and total immunity, more than the diplomats in the UN. GAVI can do exactly what they want, the police can do nothing.”


Meanwhile in AUS…




In the MOAR department, it’s been found some of these Nazi Vaxxx Minions have brick and mortar establishments!

Wolf Moon

These people are fucking MONSTERS. “You can go to the bathroom now!”



Total control. Where did they go before?

Wolf Moon

I can tell you where they all SHOULD have gone before – Jacinda Ardern’s flowerbed! 😉




Singing, “You Can Take Your Vaccine Mandates Up Your Ass”, NEEDS TO GO VIRAL.

Perhaps weekend foot ball games. Along with Fuck Joe Biden, of course.


I hope I do not start humming that song when I am in Columbus. The song is playing itself in my mind. 🙂



We need a rally. Have not heard of any Trump rallies being hyped.


I have not heard anything either. It is cold and holidays are coming up. He might do something in the spring?
The democrats are also judicially harassing him with one law suit after another. The money that is costing?


That is outstanding!


Made me WANT to sing along… and I did! 😁

You can stick your vaccine mandate up your @ss
You can stick your vaccine mandate up your @ss
You can stick your vaccine mandate,
Stick your vaccine mandate
You can stick your vaccine mandate UP your @ss

🤣 😂 🤣


Must pronounce it “ahss”…😂😆😹


Perfect! I love it. It’s catchy, simple, and anyone can join in quick.


Wow! I just got my Humana drug formulary update for 2022. Guess what is approved (insurance covered)?


Never saw that coming.  😄 


Are you real  😂 


Was HCQ and IVM not listed for 2021?

I would expect they are. BUT, NOT allowed for Covid treatment or prevention.


They likely were but I tossed that copy already. BTW, there are no limitations on use.


That IS good news.

Al we need now is quacks to write scripts.


They first have to grow a spine 🙂


I thought the bit about yelling “Go Navy!” after a hasty JetBlue landing was a hoot.


🙂 Witnessing fixed wing aircraft launch and land on a carrier IS AWESOME. Being a passenger during a “cat” launch or “trap” landing IS PRICELESS COOL!

True story.

~1993/94. Passenger onboard a S-3 (Viking), landing on USS Independence (CV-62). S-3 ABSOLUTELY SLAMMED HARD on the deck.

Flight Deck Gunner (CWO4), who I knew from previous duty station. He told me it WAS the HARDEST landing he’d ever witnessed. Nose landing gear broke during the landing. Can’t say if the pilot induced the failure, OR landing gear simply failed for whatever mechanical reason.

S-3 became a hanger queen for awhile. Waiting on repair parts.

Next morning they flew us off, to Okinawa, on a CH-53. Long, noisy flight.

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I’ve never seen one live, but just the very concept of a tailhook is brutal. Like, “fly your airplane really close to the deck, and if you’re lucky a giant hand will grab you and slam you onto the runway.”


When the AC hits the deck, they go full throttle…in case they miss the wire.


And here, I figured it was to give your neck muscles a workout if they don’t miss (/sarc — I’ve visited a couple of the impressive beasts).


Or if they’re just trying to pull the boat along a little faster….

Wolf Moon

From GAB…..

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Was not aware of the “Johnny The Walrus” kerfuffle, but it looks quite grand.

Wolf Moon


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Andrew Torba


If it wasn’t for Jesus Christ things would be so hopeless.

I see the utter stupidity, the degeneracy, the chaos, the sin, the depravity and just how far our country and people have fallen into the pit of doom.

I cling to the cross above an abyss of death and destruction to find peace.


Wolf Moon

Don’t get the vax.

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Wolf Moon

Folks – there is no sign of wheatie, and she has not commented since 11/29.

No sign of her mounting a draft or beginning a post. I’m obviously worried.

I’m going to start putting together a rough post – whatever I can finish by 1 AM Eastern.


I’m concerned! I’m fine if you don’t go to a lot of trouble and put up a bare bones post!

Sadie Slays

Thanks for the update. I hope Wheatie’s safe.






I’ve been thinking she was missing, but thought it might just be due to the holiday.


Scary to think of us missing our morning Wheatie’s….on a Monday, to boot!


we have no Monday post?


“We have no Monday post, so far.”

*Homer Simpson voice*

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Wheatie, the person who normally prepares the Monday post, has vanished.

The investigator we sent to find out what happened to Wheatie has disappeared without trace.

We are currently gathering red-shirted personnel to conduct further searches….


Wolf’s got a post up!!! Huzzah!!!


*Red-shirts breathe collective sigh of relief*


Wheatie’s OK!!!! Checked in on tomorrow’s post!!!