Dear KAG: 20220125 Open Thread

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 Mortimer Smith: Winter Landscape (1878)

You know how I like to say that I think the test makers for all the COVID tests make a stack of positives and a stack of negatives, shuffle them and put them in a box? Well….

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THE CHINA- #NHS LATERAL FLOW #TEST – MASSIVE FRAUD – FOR THOSE THAT LOST WORK – HOLIDAY – ISOLATED – OR MURDERED ON COVID WARD – THIS IS CORPORATE #FRAUD ON A MASSIVE SCALE ALL TESTS SHOULD BE HELD FOR THE #CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION – CALL THE POLICE – BE THAT RESISTANCE

Anyone have a blacklight and would consideration be given to duplicating the results of this experiment?

Truth bomb was dropped at MSNBC:

About all the election stuff. From Anonymous Conservative:

Over 100,000 people older than 124 years vote in Wisconsin.

Wisconsin Speaker Vos is secretly pushing legislation to increase the number of drop boxes after a Judge ruled them illegal in the state.

In the battle over voting rights, an idea is starting to move around in Republican circles: designated police forces designed to hunt down voter fraud. You can see the problem when you are dealing with intelligence operations, though. Anything you create, any organization, any position, will just become a target for infiltration and subversion. And once taken over, its existence, combined with its assurance to the public there is no problem, actually works against you, inducing complacency in the populace. The first thing which must happen, and the only real solution, is schooling the populace in how intelligence operations work, and how they are the threat and the problem. So long as the population is naive to the machinations of intelligence, there will be no government of, by, and for the people.

Democrats are already showing early signs of questioning the legitimacy of the elections in 2022 and 2024. Theoretically, if I were Q and had taken control of the Cabal machinery, and was looking to wake up everybody, first I would blatantly steal the election from Trump to wake up Republicans to the fact our elections were fraudulent, then I would make sure the Democrats felt the 2022 election was fraudulent and stolen from them. Once both sides felt robbed by a corrupt, rigged system, and saw they had no control, then a reveal of the fraud and implementation of a fix would be accepted by both sides.

N.J. bans police at polling stations in new law advocates say prevents voter intimidation. How would you feel if you were about to vote under a fake ID, and you saw a cop standing right there next to the desk?

The cleanup really has to be at the state level, and it is not going to change unless we vote out the bums in the state houses.

As if the NFL would allow this on a helmet.

Don’t forget:

Putin vs. Biden in leadership ability.

Memes….

This describes most people in my circles. Lots of degrees. Not much in the way of sense.

Who wants to go after Obama’s college records?

If I didn’t dust, my sainted scrubby Dutch grandmother who was actually mostly French would rise from the grave and haunt me to eternity. Aside from constantly sneezing my head off.

And you thought you were having a bad day.

Something to remember, always.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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ACTS 9:1-22

1But Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest 2and asked him for letters to the synagogues at Damascus, so that if he found any belonging to the Way, men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. 3Now as he journeyed he approached Damascus, and suddenly a light from heaven flashed about him. 4And he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?” 5And he said, “Who are you, Lord?” And he said, “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting; 6but rise and enter the city, and you will be told what you are to do.” 7The men who were traveling with him stood speechless, hearing the voice but seeing no one. 8Saul arose from the ground; and when his eyes were opened, he could see nothing; so they led him by the hand and brought him into Damascus. 9And for three days he was without sight, and neither ate nor drank. 10Now there was a disciple at Damascus named Anani’as. The Lord said to him in a vision, “Anani’as.” And he said, “Here I am, Lord.” 11And the Lord said to him, “Rise and go to the street called Straight, and inquire in the house of Judas for a man of Tarsus named Saul; for behold, he is praying, 12and he has seen a man named Anani’as come in and lay his hands on him so that he might regain his sight.” 13But Anani’as answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much evil he has done to thy saints at Jerusalem; 14and here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call upon thy name.” 15But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the sons of Israel; 16for I will show him how much he must suffer for the sake of my name.” 17So Anani’as departed and entered the house. And laying his hands on him he said, “Brother Saul, the Lord Jesus who appeared to you on the road by which you came, has sent me that you may regain your sight and be filled with the Holy Spirit.” 18And immediately something like scales fell from his eyes and he regained his sight. Then he rose and was baptized, 19and took food and was strengthened. For several days he was with the disciples at Damascus. 20And in the synagogues immediately he proclaimed Jesus, saying, “He is the Son of God.” 21And all who heard him were amazed, and said, “Is not this the man who made havoc in Jerusalem of those who called on this name? And he has come here for this purpose, to bring them bound before the chief priests.” 22But Saul increased all the more in strength, and confounded the Jews who lived in Damascus by proving that Jesus was the Christ.

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Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Before he headed to Washington, JP made this.

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Wolf Moon

Yeah, this looks like a nifty kind of disinformation.

Without knowing exactly how the test works physically, chemically, and biochemically, it’s really hard to say what’s going on.

Personally, I think it’s a great question to RAISE, because – as we have seen in this whole MESS – one of the most important steps of science appears to be HERD REVIEW, which is the final stage where DECEPTION is usually spotted.

LancetGate and the LancetGate Effect would never have been spotted without herd review catching what CONTROLLED, SILENCED and BIASED peer review cannot.

Are the tests flawed? Some could be. Or there could be a general flaw in the whole idea much like PCR is “at risk” from the basic conception (and the question of how correctable it is, is a valid question). But in my experience, both antigen testing and PCR testing have their places, if we simply admit their limitations, like ALL TESTING.

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Here is how I responded to a different commenter who clearly had the same reaction as me.

Scott McCloud

17 hours ago

too bad this isn’t being reported by anything resembling a responsible source of information.

Wolf Moon

1 second ago

Yup. Exactly. I’ve been a huge skeptic of the whole COVID clownshow, but only smart skepticism beats back the stupidity of politically incentivised bad science we’ve been forced to endure.

It’s why there are experimental, results, and discussion sections in scientific papers. And even then, the literature contains a shocking amount of deceptive crap like Surgisphere (LancetGate), or bogus studies designed by sneaky premise conditions to “prove” (remdesivir) or disprove (hydroxychloroquine) a desideratum on demand. It usually takes multiple studies – none of which need to be Fauci’s urine-yellow “gold standard” of sneakily magic-act-tilted double-blinds, to whittle things down to the truth.

My first questions here (I’ve used a ton of these antigen tests – IMO they’re quite good) is whether (1) they’re USED tests, where we would expect a band, or (2) there is a visible-light-invisible, pre-fixed “capture band” at the test mark, designed to STOP AND HOLD the chromatographic band of positive test – i.e., to concentrate it into a visible band, if it is there.

TL;DR – there ARE many potential nothingburger explanations.

cthulhu

…..and, then, there’s the suspicion that all COVID tests are “smallpox blanket” tests….

Wolf Moon

Yeah, I don’t go there, personally. My battery of tests saved my life, and my wife’s as well, IMO.

Of course, having gotten those tests quite randomly adds considerably to my trust levels. These ones mailed form Obam…. I mean Biden – not so ready to stick them up my nose.

I think some of my “trust” is from having worked inside “derp state, shallow end” for long enough to understand that distrust is most effective when it is highly directed and calibrated and often rolled out in a matrix of trust, just like THEY serve evil to us, embedded in a bunch of putative good and truth.

I think I learned this from my mother. It’s how she navigated the Nazis. Trusting, not trusting, and feigning both are ALL useful skills, if applied to the proper items in the right amounts.

GA/FL

I remember how the sly foxes in 3rd world countries tested the tests and proved them fallible.

I also remember that a FL Insurance agency said there were 33K false positives just in the state of FL

Wolf Moon

The fact that a test WILL pick up random objects is not proof that the test can’t differentiate between an infected vs. a non-infected human nose, but it does prove that the tests are potentially susceptible to bad results by contamination of that human nose.

In other words, papaya juice in the nose of somebody who just ate a papaya could set off the test. And this is why “throat positives” are not always real positives when people swab the wrong place.

GA/FL

Wolfie – maybe the tests are like votes – doesn’t matter who manufactures or takes the test – it matters who reads them.

Wolf Moon

Joseph Stalin’s corpse approves of this message!

GA/FL

LOL!!!

GA/FL

I like the beer test – if you can smell and taste it… you don’t have the virus. Sorry – I’ve gotten to the MASH humor stage in this battle.

Wolf Moon

I think it would be very interesting to see a band there on one or more UNUSED tests – and then to see if the band persisted on a negative test.

Wolf Moon

The screens are blank on a negative used test – they look exactly like unused tests. At least, the two types I have used look the same unused as they do negative.

Aubergine

I have two tests, and I have access to a black light. Expect a report later today.

Cuppa Covfefe

(and dayglo paint, mobiles, posters, and Moody Blues albums 😀 )…

Will be interesting to see what turns up…

All the smoke, mirrors, blind alleys, and obfuscation the left keeps throwing out… with snowflakes and incompetence added to the mix…

Wolf Moon

Good! I may be able to confirm your results!

Aubergine

Hi! Reporting back.

The two tests I have were freebees given to me at the local hospital. They are called QuickVue, made by Quidel. They are antigen tests.

Under a black light, the area where the lines should appear was completely BLANK. BLANK, NO LINES.

This should be repeated by as many of us as possible with as many types of tests as possible, because they may be trying to make us look like fools again.

Aubergine

Jeez, I have seen several kinds just at Walgreen’s at different times. Here is a list of the best nine tests of 2022, with the ones I have named as “Best Rapid Test”:

https://www.verywellhealth.com/best-at-home-covid-tests-5208810

Aubergine

I say go for it! The more kinds we test, the more information we have.

You can find little black light flashlights used to spot pet-urine stains. Those should be pretty easy to find at a hardware or pet store.

Cuppa Covfefe

I don’t know if the USA does it, but you can check for “watermarks” on currency (bills, of course) to see if they’re counterfeit (or at least try 🙂 )…..

So there’s more than just one reason to have a UV flashlight (just don’t point it at anyone)…

pgroup2

Where’s Coothie?

cthulhu

Same Cooth Time, Same Cooth channel….

Aubergine

You just responded to the Cooth-signal!

Cuppa Covfefe

It would be uncooth if he hadn’t 🙂

Aubergine

Lol!

cthulhu

I can only imagine….

Aubergine

LOL!!!

cthulhu

What a wuss Saul was!! Gets one little taste of miraculous “pressure” and he immediately folded like a cheap suit. No wonder he had to change his name.

pgroup2

Easy for you to say.

cthulhu

That road probably caused such phenomena all the time — thus the billboards saying, “See Damascus — or don’t!” put up by the Damascus Tourism Bureau.

GA/FL

My Bible has Saul saying these iconic words (words/attitudes that we all should share) “Lord, what would you have me to do?”

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TradeBait2

👍

People who have been “there”, like me, know that is the right question to ask. You are changed forever. I wish the experience for everybody, without the suffering I caused along the way.

GA/FL

Moi, aussi, Mon Ami!

GA/FL

DALLAS HOLM
IF I HAD IT TO DO ALL OVER AGAIN

cthulhu

If I had to guess, I’d also suppose that nobody on that bus gave the girl any grief about her fingernail polish not matching.

Gail Combs

Clif High is an odd duck who we saw with Patel Patriot (devolution) He seems to think we may see a die-off of those who got the clot shot in the next 3 years. (Towards the end he suggest Ivermectin make help those injured) As people realize they or their family have been poisoned they (Democrat sheeple) may go ‘hunting’. He also thinks towards spring things will get rocky esp with our currency. He thinks that Mr Global is starting to lose and the ‘Great Reset’ will be the destruction of the Fed and bankers. They also think the number who got the clot shot is a lot less then the government announces.

Clif has a program that looks at the language changes on the internet and uses those changes to make predictions. Patel Patriot and Greg Hunter indicate he has been accurate. Also he has worked for the government.

That is a very very rough impression from the 1 1/2 hours.

Join Greg Hunter of USAWatchdog.com as he goes One-on-One with data mining expert Clif High in this one hour and ten-minute in-depth interview. (1.22.22)

Vax Die-off for Next Three Years – Clif High
https://rumble.com/vt3b40-vax-die-off-for-next-three-years-clif-high.html

GA/FL

Don’t the FLCCC doctors have a post-vax detox regimen/protocol?

I know they have a long haul protocol.

Gail Combs

GA/FL,

I think it would depend on how long between the detox and the Clot Shot. Also the virus drops it’s load of spiked protein in the lungs while the Clot Shot drops the load in the blood stream causing attacks on the heart, spleen, brain, ovaries, testes and other organs as well as causing micro clots. As more than one doctor has said THE HEART DOES NOT REPAIR.

Clif High reminds us that is essentially a death sentence. Active people will die faster. Myocarditis is only one ‘side effect’ The brain cells (and nerves) ALSO do not repair and the clot shot can also damage the brain and nerves.

Myocarditis

Granulomatous necrotizing myocarditis is lethal if overlooked and untreated. Non-fulminant active myocarditis has a mortality rate of 25% to 56% within 3 to 10 years, owing to progressive heart failure and sudden cardiac death, especially if symptomatic heart failure manifests early on…

Myocarditis | Circulation

The Myocarditis Treatment Trial reported mortality rates for biopsy-verified myocarditis of 20% and 56% at 1 year and 4.3 years, respectively. 6 These outcomes are similar to the Mayo Clinic’s observational data of 5-year survival rates that approximate 50%.

Vaccine-Related Myocarditis Can Cause Death

What Is Myocarditis?

According to the CDC, myocarditis is inflammation of the heart muscle, and pericarditis is inflammation of the outer lining of the heart. In both cases, the body’s immune system causes inflammation in response to an infection or some other trigger. 

Myocarditis in general practice, independent of vaccination, is most common in young men and resolves spontaneously in at least half of patients. However, the condition may lead to dilated cardiomyopathy, heart transplantation, or death in up to a quarter of cases. So–it isn’t no big deal….. 

This is a health site reguritating the CDC blaming Covid and not the clot shot:
https://www.medicaldaily.com/myocarditis-covid-19-much-bigger-risk-heart-vaccination-464263

Gail Combs

I should also add that those who did not want to take the clot shot but were forced to probably were already taking vitamins, zinc, quercetin and maybe Ivermectin. The brainwashed, like my neighbors, who ONLY believe in what doctors say are not going to take Ivermectin to counter their clot shots UNTIL their doctor tells them to.

The other problem is the cohort who ONLY BELIEVES their doctors are much more likely to take the second shot and the booster thereby compounding the problem.

On top of that Dr Cole  reports a ‘20 times increase’ of cancer in vaccinated patients 

….“Since January 1, in the laboratory, I’m seeing a 20 times increase of endometrial cancers over what I see on an annual basis,” reported Dr. Cole in the video clip shared on Twitter.  

“I’m not exaggerating at all because I look at my numbers year over year, I’m like ‘Gosh, I’ve never seen this many endometrial cancers before’,” he continued….

Cole explained that two types of cells are required for adequate immune system function: “Helper T-cells,” also called “CD4 cells,” and “killer T-cells,” often known as “CD8 cells.” 

According to Cole, in patients with HIV, there is a massive suppression of “helper T-cells” which cause immune system functions to plummet, and leave the patient susceptible to a variety of illnesses.  

Similarly, Cole describes, “post-vaccine, what we are seeing is a drop in your killer T-cells, in your CD8 cells,” 

“And what do CD8 cells do? They keep all other viruses in check,” …..

ForGodandCountry

How many processors are there in your neural network?

Just curious.

Gail Combs

FG&C,

I have been doing ‘Connect-the-dots’ for decades. My brain is just hard wired that way. I actually had to learn to SHOW people HOW the dots connect instead of just presenting the dots and expecting people to see what I see.

Blank looks at meetings and presentations to the Big Wigs plus questions by people (engineers mostly) who could sort of see where I was going helped a lot.

marymorse

Hi Gail,

Here’s a link to a study that I was looking for the other day.

DRASTIC researchers found trace amounts of genomic particles of human infectious particles in agricultural lab sequences, indicating cross contamination of labs in Wuhan, (if I’m reading this right.) BSL 3 + 4 materials in BSL 2 indicating an escape. Subsequent comment is also interesting.

https://t.co/kgy6ofrUBv
The WIV fed lies to their conferences. Evidently not even a single Coronavirus studied under the grant or outside the grant were contained, and a lot of work were being done in 2017-2019 that does not match any of the known grants and were unpublished even

— Daoyu (@Daoyu15) January 22, 2022

marymorse

This:

https://t.co/edGShQbo9a

— Daoyu (@Daoyu15) January 22, 2022

“performed in the absence of an adaptive immune system” = a transgenic mouse

Gail Combs

Cornell is one of the top Ag universities in the USA.

ALSO:

[Submitted on 4 Apr 2021 (v1), last revised 6 Jun 2021 (this version, v2)]


“…Using the contaminating reads we have extracted from the above datasets, we were able to assemble complete genomes of two novel coronaviruses which we disclose herein. In light of our findings, we raise concerns about biosafety protocol breaches, as indicated by our discovery of multiple dangerous human pathogens in agricultural sequencing laboratories in Wuhan and Fouzou City, China….”

marymorse

Morrill Act land grant universities were established with a core mission to further research in agriculture, mechanical engineering, and military science. They also have a public service obligation, ie. Cooperative Extension. Some include Cornell, MIT, Va Tech, Texas A+M, etc.

Rice and cotton.

Gail Combs

This is the abstract of the paper. It is an un-reviewed pre-print. GEE I wonder why it was never BLESSED?

Unexpected novel Merbecovirus discoveries in agricultural sequencing datasets from Wuhan, China

In this study we document the unexpected discovery of multiple coronaviruses and a BSL-3 pathogen in agricultural cotton and rice sequencing datasets. In particular, we have identified a novel HKU5-related Merbecovirus in a cotton dataset sequenced by the Huazhong Agricultural University in 2017. We have also found an infectious clone sequence containing a novel HKU4-related Merbecovirus related to MERS coronavirus in a rice dataset sequenced by the Huazhong Agricultural University in early 2020.

Another HKU5-related Merbecovirus, as well as Japanese encephalitis virus, were identified in a cotton dataset sequenced by the Huazhong Agricultural University in 2018. An HKU3-related Betacoronavirus was found in a Mus musculus sequencing dataset from the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2017. Finally, a SARS-WIV1-like Betacoronavirus was found in a rice dataset sequenced by the Fujian Agriculture and Forestry University in 2017. Using the contaminating reads we have extracted from the above datasets, we were able to assemble complete genomes of two novel coronaviruses which we disclose herein. In light of our findings, we raise concerns about biosafety protocol breaches, as indicated by our discovery of multiple dangerous human pathogens in agricultural sequencing laboratories in Wuhan and Fouzou City, China.

Gail Combs

This looks like another DARN GOOD REASON NOT TO EAT GMO FOOD!

We have ZERO idea what other crap is inserted.

Remember Dr Judy Mikovitz found mouse retro-viruses in vaccines. LINK

ForGodandCountry

Yes, you’ve explained before.

I was teasing…in a well-intentioned way!

Frankly, I’m a little jealous.

GA/FL

Thanks – Copied!

marymorse

I have a brilliant doctor.

She is offering something to her patients. I don’t have any details yet. Will post more information when I have it.

Gail Combs

OH GOOD! Maybe you can get Wolfie to post it as an article.

Wolf Moon

Maybe. But only if my editor Suspicious Cat approves! 😉 😅

marymorse

Some kind of tincture.

cthulhu

Just so long as it’s not some kind of weasel….

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GA/FL

Hope I don’t miss it! 🙂

kalbokalbs

Very interesting listening to Cliff High. Listened to him in the background.

Gail Combs

I do not always believe what he says but I like to hear ‘out-of-the-box’ thinking.

Some of his suggestions are spot on.

cthulhu
Wolf Moon

AVATAR!!!

This is all very “Spongebob”.

cthulhu

SPONGEBOB WAS A DOCUMENTARY!!!!!

cthulhu
cthulhu

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para59r

I hope she doesn’t loose her job, but this is great sediment.

Wolf Moon

Great stuff. People are standing up to the NINNIES.

ForGodandCountry

No less a hero than those truckers, right here. More so, as she is most def. putting her job on the line by posting this vid.

❤️

cthulhu

As to the point being made by the guy in the green jacket….he doesn’t reach far enough. Someone could have FIVE PhD’s and still be an idiot.

SteveInCO

I noticed that PhDs usually are *crappy* at software. I know a few exceptions, of course, but a PhD in computer science usually thinks his role is to tell other people how to write software so he designs a “methodology” which will result in a bunch of diagrams that still don’t tell you what the heck any piece of the software does.

eilert

Kanekoa
@KanekoaTheGreat
11h
Dr. Paul Marik on the use of Remdesivir in our hospitals
“The federal government is incentivizing hospitals to prescribe a medication which is toxic”

Wolf Moon
GA/FL

I remember the day Trump celebrated Remdisivir in the Oval Office.

There was only one small study in FL that showed it had any efficacy or benefit whatsoever in the treatment of CV19. Thereafter, the PTB in medical academia pronounced it the ‘gold standard’.

SPIT!!!

Gail Combs

Remember we had a tough time digging out the truth about Remdisivir. POTUS would not have the time and I doubt the very few decent doctors around him, like Dr Hatfill and Dr Malone had the time either.

Our BIG WEAPON is CROWD SOURCED INVESTIGATIONS and Mr Global is terrified of them.

gil00

When I was in the hospital, infectious disease got pissed i refused redemsivir, visibly. After that, she never came to see me again. When i requested to see my labs and reminded her about kidney damage and i had cancer, the push back was the only thing that got her to acquiesce.

Gail Combs

GOOD FOR YOU!

Unfortunately we now have to be well reseached BEFORE we go into a hospital or a doctor’s office to protect ourselves.

gil00

Yes. Cannot trust anyone.

Wolf Moon

I am still APPALLED that an “infectious disease unit” would give a worthless, dangerous drug at a point where they KNOW there is no virus, but the drug’s side effects have over a 20% chance of putting the person on dialysis.

And they cannot claim ignorance, because they use the SAME LOGIC to DENY monoclonals after 10 days of infection. And monoclonals are MUCH SAFER than remdesivir, which is important once the patient is in a weakened state.

I think you saved your life by refusing that treatment. This convinced me that ALL COVID patients need internet access while they’re in the hospital – to defend against this murderous Fauci policy of paying people to use a bad drug at the wrong time.

NUREMBERG!!!

gil00

I must say the er doc didnt intubate me and he could have. That im grateful for or they would’ve given me the whole enchilada and id definitely be dead.

Wolf Moon

Dr. Cameron Kyle-Sidell was the life-saver there. If he had never spoken up, millions would have died on vents.

Wolf Moon

Or rather, millions MORE.

gil00

Gosh they need visitors that dont need a covid shot or neg test. Ombudsman dont exist.

Chris

I had a similar experience with the new heart surgeon when I moved,
After the NA took my vitals and left the room, he came in, and with pleasantries out of the way, broke the ice with some really absurd stories about what some people were saying about the vax ..before going full tilt and recommending I take it before I left…
RED FLAG.
I thought..WHAT!?, ..but was prepared and had been expecting it sooner or later from some direction in the process. Frankly I wondered why the first stop@ the PP who recommended the heart surgeon hadn’t made the attempt. I assume my position is well known there now. ( it’s a small deep south town )  😆 

I calmly countered with questions I’d learned about it with him, threw in a few associated /ancillary ,extra’s that got him thinking..
He then realized his patient was not going to simply raise the sleave and bend over. He couldn’t hide he was running low on BS ammo,
That I was NOT going to acquiesce, despite his DR. title. , I was counting. His cognitive dissonance tumbled into a tailspin ,as he had no answers without even more simple basic questions from me, that he could not logically answer. We went back and forth for several minutes. Very calmly respectfully but deliberative.
He then dropped the whole thing and scooted his chair to the records on his Pc ,as he attempted to change the subject..I could have let him off the hook then and there, gone our separate ways. But he had my blood up so..

I had to whisper, up close in a low tone ,”you want to check my blood pressure NOW ?
The response was an equal toned and quick NO .. ha ha !
Good.. just like a firm handshake, we understood each other.

An intellectually armed society is a polite society.  😄 
Push back, when and where needed. Be firm.

I hope you are doing better, I’ve been keeping the prayers coming .

gil00

Snort….ah man thats great. The sad thing is we are in a vulnerable and often isolated position. They know it and throw that hippo oath out to play overlord, cause God doesnt act like that.

Gingersmom2009

Navarro?

kalbokalbs

The Internet IS the “Long Pole”, allowing us to figure it all out, expose the fraud, determine safe treatment.

GA/FL

Yep – I’m looking for them to shut down our group communication with either Net Neutrality (censorship) or an EMP. Or something like a computer virus.

singingsoul1

Amen

singingsoul1

You all heare it? The Government encourages the Hospital to give Remdesivir to Medicar patience. Now why would a Government do that use a treadment that causes over $3000 a pop to a medicine that causes 2cent a pop?
Who are medicare patience? The useless eaters. Some evil entities in this Government are killing people and feckless doctors are not saying anything and the Hospital administration is greedy for their bonuses and another promotion? Keeping investors happy?
Then you all know this how can one shout it to all the brainwashed masses?
Fear is terrible and does so much damage to the psyche.

RDS

singingsoul1
I am writing down your last sentence will read it out loud every hour:
“FEAR IS TERRIBLE AND DOES SO MUCH DAMAGE TO THE PSYCHE.”

This sentence is very powerful.

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singingsoul1

I am rereading a book about Evelin Underhill ” The Ways of the Spirit”.

Let me share a couple of sentences from her writings in her Book that always have helped in refocusing me.

(Page 170)

“Well we begin to be ready to accept the idea of patience as the earnest and token of self – oblivion, as strengthening thread that runs through the supernatural life. And if so , we are asking in three ways and give in three ways:
In patience toward God
Patience toward others
And Patience toward ourselves.

  1. Our entire confidence depends on God. We do not rely on our own endeavors for the spirit to pray, but cast all our care on Him. This is the life of faith.
  2. To have hearts not only obedient to His will, but delight in it as our necessary rule.
  3. To practice a joyous resignation to His will in every suffering that comes to us. These testify to our love because they utterly exclude self – interest, whereas the feeling of fervor may be disguised self – indulgence.
singingsoul1

Yes it is.

TheseTruths

Regarding this theory..

Democrats are already showing early signs of questioning the legitimacy of the elections in 2022 and 2024. Theoretically, if I were Q and had taken control of the Cabal machinery, and was looking to wake up everybody, first I would blatantly steal the election from Trump to wake up Republicans to the fact our elections were fraudulent, then I would make sure the Democrats felt the 2022 election was fraudulent and stolen from them. Once both sides felt robbed by a corrupt, rigged system, and saw they had no control, then a reveal of the fraud and implementation of a fix would be accepted by both sides.

…I don’t think most Dems really think the 2022 election is going to be stolen from them. I think they are just upset because some of their methods of cheating are being halted, and they’re calling that “stealing.” Maybe some of the regular people think certain people are being disenfranchised, but I’m having a hard time believing that this will unite both sides in fixing our election system. I think the distrust and anger, and in some cases hatred, within the Left is so ingrained that this will not wake them up. IMO, we will have to continue to wage this war in spite of them.

Wolf Moon

AMEN. Communism will not go down easy. It may go down more or less non-violently, like the Soviet Union did, but it will not go down easy.

Gail Combs

Communism/Markism is an EXCUSE, a JUSTIFICATION, a ‘Philosophy’ that says THEFT and Murder and belief in fairy tales is MORAL.

The Philosophy Of Karl Marx

The Hegelian Basis

The philosophical bases of Marx’s thought were laid early and remained unchanged throughout his life. As a student, Marx accepted the philoso­phy of Hegel as the only sound and adequate explanation of the uni­verse. According to this philosophy, “the only immutable thing is the abstraction of movement.” The one universal phenomenon is change, and the only universal form of this phenomenon is its complete abstrac­tion. Thus, Hegel accepted as real only that which existed in the mind. Objective phenomena and events were of no consequence; only the con­ceptions of them possessed by human minds were real. Ideas, not ob­jects, were the stuff of which the universe was made. The universe and all events therein existed and took place only in the mind, and any change was a change in ideas. 

slowcreekno

«I think they are just upset because some of their methods of cheating are being halted, and they’re calling that “stealing.”»

Indeed. Projection is a standard feature of how commies operate. I’ve lost count of how many times have we seen them accusing someone of what they are doing themselves.

gil00

Yep.

TradeBait2

In my email this morning – an open solicitation from the TN GOP for poll workers for the national election. As most know here, TN is controlled by the GOP very strongly and is in the process of weeding out RINO’s. So why do they still use Dominion?

Lipstick on the pig solicitation IMO.

Dominion has worked for both parties. Duh. Until all electronic voting is gone, there is no election integrity. You might control or eliminate some illegal mail-in or drop box voting with poll workers, but that does not eliminate 2 AM electronic vote switches. Forensic auditing only goes so far, especially if the forensic auditors are bought off and/or the judiciary shuts you down. Corrupt officials from the governor down in each state destroy any thoughts of honest elections.

You do not need algorithms to tabulate votes.

Paper, required ID, blue thumbs. Physical counts by tellers, people from both sides observing along with law enforcement. Wait until verified before revealing the results. Forbid media from commenting or polling from Election Day until results are returned. Recounts automatically authorized within an acceptable margin. Time to put this crap to an end.

TheseTruths

Tell them that!

CMinTN

‘Cause we still have RINOs like Randy McNally, (my state senator), in charge of things. While we are making some progress, we’ll never make it all the way with the old guard establishment running things. Take our “permitless carry” for example…it falls short of the “Constitutional carry” law it was billed as.

Gail Combs

DO NOT FORGET THE PRECINCT STRATEGY!!!

https://precinctstrategy.com/state-information/

TAKE OVER THE REPUBLICAN PARTY: “The Precinct Strategy” with Dan Schultz and David Clement, the Professor’s Record. (55 minutes)
https://rumble.com/vi9kal-take-over-the-republican-party-the-precinct-strategy-with-dan-schultz.html

Barb Meier

Are there any laws against taking a photo snapshot of our own ballots prior to putting them into a scanner machine? Is there a way that could be used as part of auditing if we all did it?

TradeBait2

Great question, Barb. I don’t know the answer.

ForGodandCountry

Subscribed.

Great theory.

Chris

” IMO, we will have to continue to wage this war in spite of them.”

And with eternal vigilance.

cthulhu

Over at LI, a commenter said, “As predicted by NostraDeSantis a month or so ago….”

Nice comment on prophecies.

Wolf Moon
ForGodandCountry

Without Notice The FDA Big Pharma Revokes Monoclonal Antibody Treatments

Fixed.

Wolf Moon

AMEN!

Washington is a cesspool.

Wolf Moon

Zuckerberg – that picture – MAN – that is one creepy mofo.

smiley2

they all are !!

check out the dude below…

Cuppa Covfefe

He looks like he has the skin stretched over his face (like a burglar’s mask) and there’s not really enough to go ’round…

(Actually there’s a condition that causes that, and it’s kind of ugly and sad… but it doesn’t justify what Zucks done even if he does have it… hmmm, think of “The Night Of The Puppeteer” and Zachariah Skull [“Wild, wild, West”]…)…. (cool music, too, Dave Grusin and the whole-tone ostinato when the “puppet” Vivid was dancing….)….

(P.S. not the bearded puppet, but the disfigured criminal shown only at the end of the episode who was the REAL Skull)….

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smiley2

the dark mind of the technocrat…

this is Ray Kurzweil

the father of Singularity….

watch..

H/T…

What Drives The Mind of The Technocrat

article link…

https://www.technocracy.news/what-drives-the-mind-of-a-technocrat/

1/23

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Dora

Long Island judge rules Gov. Hochul’s mask mandate as ‘unlawful’
.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/24/long-island-judge-throws-out-hochuls-mask-mandate/

Brave and Free

Tom MacDonald’s latest, another truth bomb TPTB don’t want the masses to realize.

TheseTruths

That is excellent. Even if people aren’t fans of the music genre, every word is understandable and what he’s saying, is truth. That should be effective in getting the message out to various segments of the population who might not be paying much attention except to know that their lives are changing for the worse.

Please

This is reaching the young folk.

3.2 MILLION views in 4 days.

Read the comments …

duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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Dora

Müller, „Benedict Was Lured Into A Trap”
.

https://gloria.tv/post/uRXKCVDzuvza1P4SrsZHur8Hk

GA/FL

BRAVA, DP!!!

Have to say – Planned Parenthood easily surpasses Fauci and Bill Gates and the big pharmaceutical companies in the serial killer category.  Planned Parenthood is right up there with Stalin and Communist China.

Cuppa Covfefe

100,000 babies MURDERED in 2020 in Germany alone (2021 numbers aren’t out yet, but they’re probably even higher 😡 )…..

And they have an equally deceptive name over here: “ProFamilia” , which they’re anything but…….

GA/FL

My thoughts are neither kind nor good. It’s more obvious every day that the Nazis never died out in Germany.

Cuppa Covfefe

It’s NOT JUST GERMANY!!!!!!!

Wolf Moon

Great comment found:

John Chittick
January 25, 2022 at 1:00 am
The institutional left is an echo chamber of delusion and innumeracy when it comes to energy, climate, health care and pretty much everything else when you think about it.

Cuppa Covfefe

Here’s an article by Pierre Gosselin, whose “NoTricksZone” has been publishing articles about the Green GoreBull Warming and e-vehicle scams for years now. This is from 2017, and it still rings true today!

E-Vehicles Would Mean “Mass Death On The Highways”

German Analysis: Florida Evacuation With E-Vehicles Would Mean “Mass Death On The Highways”

https://notrickszone.com/2017/09/12/german-analysis-florida-evacuation-with-e-vehicles-would-mean-mass-death-on-the-highways

E-mobility in times of hurricane would be “a nightmare”

Yesterday Michael Limburg of the Germany-based European Institute for Climate and Energy (EIKE) here posted a brainstorming thought exercise, posing the question of what would the evacuation of Florida look like if most of the cars were electric?

And to take it a step further, what would rescue services today be like if they depended on electric vehicles?

EIKE concludes that it would be “a nightmare!”

“Mass death”

EIKE cites a post by IT expert Hadmut Danisch here, who drove the point home, saying the outcome would be “mass death on the highways“. Though the discussion rages over the degree to which man may be at fault for hurricanes like Irma, one thing is sure: as long as it’s September, the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico will always be in peak hurricane season with or without man. Powerful hurricanes have always been the case, and always will be.

What has emerged, Limburg writes, is: the better the early warning system is, and the more mobile people are, the less victims you are going to see.

Cars would lose their charge, millions stranded on highway

Imagine if the environmentalists had had their way and had managed to force the US into electric cars…something that is underway now in some countries like Norway, the UK and soon France. Germany recently has been discussing in earnest banning by 2030 the internal combustion engine.

And now imagine with Irma approaching if the millions of citizens evacuating populated south Florida had had electric cars instead to make the 400-mile journey to get out of harm’s way. After 100 miles or so these cars would have lost their power, and charging stations quickly would have become overrun with cars waiting to make the one-hour charge-up.

Traffic would have rapidly come to a halt.

These millions of stranded people then would have been sitting ducks waiting to be blown away by nature’s fury.

Fossil fuel vehicles never need a rest

(…)

There’s much more info (and the rest of the article) on Pierre’s site… well worth a look and a read…

GA/FL

Here’s a must watch – A SECOND OPINION – SENATOR RON JOHNSON FORUM.

Begins at 40:19 – https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a-second-opinion.html

“Discussion begins around 40 minute mark. Sen. Ron Johnson moderates a panel discussion, COVID-19: A Second Opinion. A group of world renowned doctors and medical experts provide a different perspective on the global pandemic response, the current state of knowledge of early and hospital treatment, vaccine efficacy and safety, what went right, what went wrong, what should be done now, and what needs to be addressed long term.”
More at www.ronjohnson.senate.gov

Wikipedia, propagandists for the left deride Senator Johnson in their bio – (I wrote them a letter today giving them what for) – “A staunch ally of President Donald Trump, Johnson voted for Trump’s Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, supported Trump’s decision to end Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), launched investigations into his political opponents and promoted false claims of fraud in relation to Trump’s defeat in the 2020 presidential election. He has rejected the scientific consensus on climate change. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Johnson voted for the CARES Act, resisted stay at home orders, used his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee to invite witnesses “ to push fringe theories about COVID-19, and spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccinations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Johnson_(Wisconsin_politician)

Actually – the wiki description of Ron Johnson makes him exactly what I want in a Senator!

Gail Combs

HEART: spike protein & inflammation & vitamin D & HCQ
@ 1 hour 28 minutes

She also talks of how her Dad died and how they killed him in the hospital.

Gail Combs

4 million hospitalized 850,000 million died. He says cheap approved drugs could have save 500,000 lives (That is the 1/2 million I figured out by a different method.)

Dr Paul Merrick –> Remdesivir
1:41:50 – 1:50:00
He eviscerated NIH/FAUCI. Fauci Told POTUS was good 10 days in. Changed END POINT

Gives bonus to hospital to treat MEDICARE (the old and ‘useless’) patients with this toxic drug.

Gail Combs

3:12:00 MyFreeDoctor (dot)com
treated 150,000 lost four.

WATCH!!!
3:35 DrPeter McCollough talks aboutvaccines. Originally there were 3? type ethics borads during the trials but when it came to the EUA those boards were gotten rid of AND THAT IS WHY CLOT SHOT WAS NOT PULLED IN JANUARY2021!

Steven Kirsch says right after there is HARD evidence at least 4 in the CDC/FDA were getting royalties…

GA/FL

Yes – Dr. Christina Parks has made some excellent points about how differently people with African genetic background react to CV19 AND THE VACCINES.

Ethnicity does matter in medicine – my sister had concurrent dengue fever and malaria and her response was severe and peculiar to a certain ethnicity so….we learned may have some middle eastern/african blood somewhere previously unknown to us.

cthulhu

It’s always in the last place you look [’cause once you find it, you stop looking]….

Gail Combs

  :wpds_arrow: SMOKING GUN!!!!

4:02:00
Risk increases with each shot. mRna was ENGINEERED to TAMP DOWN RESPONSE to evade ADE BUT it looks like it ALSO tamps down response thviruses, bacteria viruses and cancer.

New Study Dr Voss out of the Netherlands.
  :wpds_eek: 

Gail Combs

4:43:00 Atrny Tom Renz he has Dept of Defense Whistleblowers with the data from the D-Med data base. They have data over time and it shows THE DATA BASE WAS TAMPERED WITH TO HIDE THE INJURIES TO OUR SOLDIERS!

Senator Johnson Ordered PRESERVE YOUR RECORDS….

5:05:00 Myocarditis and heart Hits 18 to 24 yr old males the worst. up to 50 years 21,000 cases so far.

A lot more good info.

holly

ForGodandCountry

Racists of the left.

Surprised they didn’t use the N word.

gil00

And as shes assaulted him she excuses herself by yelling black lives matter. Flippin fruitcake.

ForGodandCountry

Good point.

Wolf Moon

This is how Soviet thinking works. What is higher on the PC scale? For mask Karens, it’s masks, but they know that it’s normally BLM, so they chant that for protection from the rest of the mob.

All nuts.

ForGodandCountry

🤣

barkerjim

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Wolf Moon

Now THAT is good. And true. GET THAT RAT OUT!!!

barkerjim

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para59r

Tyrants out of control. Resist!

kalbokalbs

Initially thought this would be Babylon Bee.

Hope Canadian truckers don’t stop their strike with simple relaxation of injection mandates on truckers. Hope truckers hold fast and collapse the entire Covid hoax in Canada.

Gail Combs

AMEN!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

Chiefio’s got a new post up with lots of links and infos about what’s going on.

IT IS A MAJOR PROTEST!

Moar here:
http://www.chiefio.wordpress.com/2022/01/25/hows-tha-trucker-mandate-going-eh

Wolf Moon

Good grief. INSANITY.

TradeBait2

Remove the long hair and make-up – what do you see?

ForGodandCountry

Following.

Gail, please acknowledge seeing this. Thx.

Gail Combs

Yeah, VERY STRANGE.

The following day, Fallon developed a cough and something that resembled “pink-eye.” And, by Sunday, she was visiting the Geisinger Medical Center emergency room, where infectious disease doctors were consulted. Fallon has since received her first (of 4) preventative rabies shots; as well as a prescription for a 14-day course of Valacyclovir.

The stay-at-home mom, who shared that she was fully vaccinated and received her booster, was also tested for Covid, but the results at the ER were negative.

Scrounged from the internet:

Coronavirus symptoms start an average of about five days after exposure. According to the CDC, COVID symptoms can appear anywhere from two to 14 days after someone is exposed to the virus.

The typical flu incubation period—the time between exposure and the start of symptoms—is between 24 hours and four days, with the average being two days.

Afterexposure to a cold virus, it typically takes 1 to 3 days to develop symptoms. However, it’s possible to develop symptoms as soon as 10 to 12 hours after exposure.

The incubation period for pink eye caused by virus is around 12 hours to 3 days.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The damage to the immune system by the Clot Shots & boosters would mean sysmptoms would show sooner rather than later.

For what it is worth:
We are treating our cat for a nasty case of Pink Eye. My Ponies picked the darn infection up at a fair more than a decade ago and I have been fighting it ever since. All my newborn lambs, and goat kids get treated as a matter of course.

NO CONTACT was needed just manure spread on the hay field where the fair was held. 🙄

marymorse

This is a very strange story.

I’d like to add something but I need more information first.

Does anyone remember the site that would post 17 drops with the black background and the summary titles of each post?(Not qanon.pub) I think it was deplatformed.

Any way to get back to a particular post? The post would have been around 5/20/20, and George Floyd’s name was misspelled in the summary title. It was spelled “Flyod” in the title.

At the time, I did a search of the title with the misspelling and it took me to a couple of very odd results. One led to regulations related to the transport of hazardous materials.

rayzorback
marymorse

Thank you for trying.

It was a site.
The administrator would give the drop a summary as a title. It was de-platformed, I think. http://www.qanon.net, maybe?

rayzorback

I downloaded the Q.pdf file a while back.
I thought you might get it from that post.

rayzorback

This site still works:

https://qalerts.app/

TradeBait2
kalbokalbs

Gail or GA/FL, Thank you, for the idea to copy these into a word doc or the like readability. FIRST TIME, I have read one of Karl’s article completely.

Do i understand Carl to be saying, cancelling EUA for Mono Chlodals, IS a good thing?

  • IF that is his take, I am a bit taken back. Looking forward to thoughts by folks here QTree.

Finally, what is VEI? Guessing Virus ? ?

Gail Combs

AT PRESENT WE DO NOT KNOW AND WE CANNOT PREDICT EVOLUTIONARY PATHS NOR, IT APPEARS, ARE WE VERY GOOD AT STOPPING INTENTIONAL HUMAN ACTIONS EITHER.

Note that the Federal Government has just pulled the EUAs for monoclonals. These are drugs that are, effectively, the “final product in the body” of being jabbed. They know damn well what the risk is — not just that the drugs are worthless against Omicron but could end up boosting the infection, making it worse. Since these drugs are, basically, the product of the jabs the obvious risk that the same thing has or will happen with the jabs either with Omicron or what may evolve from it should be clear to anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size.

At present we do not know.

Its possible that the negative effectiveness of the jabs will wear off.  That would be excellent but it will only wear off if people stop taking jabs. If you keep trying to play for another month or two of “protection” that is followed by six months of enhanced infectivity you are eventually going to lose on that dice roll and get screwed. Of course all the pharma CEOs (who’s primary purpose in life is to make money) plus the government agencies (who’s primary purpose in life at this point is to keep you from hanging them for conning you into doing something stupid) are telling you to play for that extra couple of months…..

What Karl is saying is not only are monoclonals useless against Omicron, but they could cause viral enhancement and could also INCREASE MUTATIONS to a more lethal form.

I am not sure I agree with him about the harm caused by monoclonals. but this may be his concern:

Phase 3 Data Show Monoclonal Antibodies Provide long-term Protection Against COVID-19

A single dose of REGEN-COV, a combination monoclonal antibody therapy, reduced the risk of COVID-19 by 81.6% several months after a single dose. UNC School of Medicine’s Myron Cohen, MD, leads monoclonal antibody research efforts as part of the NIH-sponsored COVID Prevention Network.

VEI = Vaccine-induced enhancement of viral infections

kalbokalbs

Thank you.

This is the first I’ve seen Mono Clonal may not be good long term.

Some how I see CDC / FDA simply making a play to support expensive pills for Big Phrama AND perhaps start phasing out Covid injections. I really dunno, other than CDC/FDA and Big Pharma are focused on profits.

Shift Big Pharma profit centers, a bit. Besides, pills easier to transport, store, administer, etc. Prolly a better shelf-life.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊

Regeneron was ‘the fountain of youth’ for Delta and the earlier strain. If given early within 3 days, it seemed to reverse WuFlu within 48-72hrs.
They have since came out with more versions of ma’s and are saying the earlier versions don’t work on Omicron. I get that, Omicron isn’t supposed to be that bad to even need ma’s tho?

I keep referring back to this site, it looks like they’re keeping it updated. Looks like quercitin has moved up in ranks(Prophylaxis rate is 93%), and black seed is right under it – way to go team! (I’m now using 11 on the list daily since they added CBD, plus antihistimines and stuff not on the list…need some black seed)

Most all the ones ending in ‘vimab’ are the monoclonals.

If you click on the drug, you can drill down into more data.
For ex. Casirivimab/imdevimab is Regeneron, and you can see it working good early on, then as omicron hit, it started to become not as effective.

The key is still EARLY TREATMENT!!

COVID-19 early treatment: real-time analysis of 1,346 studies (c19early.com)

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Gail Combs

NICE!!!

And, yes I see no reason to use monoclonals for Omicron.

CBD oil before infection looks reasonable… doesn’t work for later stages.

I mentioned CBD early on because of the cytokine storm problem in the CCP virus.

October 2009:
Cannabinoids as novel anti-inflammatory drugs

….Cannabinoids are potent anti-inflammatory agents and they exert their effects through induction of apoptosis, inhibition of cell proliferation, suppression of cytokine production and induction of T-regulatory cells (Tregs). In this review, we provide an in-depth description of all four different mechanisms and we further discuss the immunosuppressive properties of cannabinoids in the context of inflammatory and autoimmune disease states, triggered by cellular rather than humoral components of the immune system…..

bflyjesusgrl 🍊

I love this site, soo much detail. Pick drug and see all the info, scroll down, pick prophylaxis tab (if exists), shows individual studies(note dates) and you can drill into the study to find out doses used and success rate.

Gail Combs

Certainly easier that trying to save all the sites yourself.

THANKS AGAIN!

marymorse

Wow.

Knew about apoptosis, which makes cannabinoids useful as a cancer killer. Also helps induce sleep, and stimulates appetite.

kalbokalbs

That is useful. Thanks.

Chris

Good stuff Bfly! , TY !

Gingersmom2009

Vaccine Enhanced Infection, I believe.

kalbokalbs

Thanks.

barkerjim
Gail Combs

Goes with my comment yesterday on the statistics of covid.

Chris

TY, for the link. I missed your comment yesterday.
Looks more like combined enemy action, the usual suspects of course.  😉 

ForGodandCountry

Update

Funds raised as of 10:56 AM EST:
$4,345,520
Target: $5M

And it’s only Tuesday AM.

😎

para59r

All these Convoy threads in the twitter verse are wild. People are hyped up.

Gingersmom2009

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ForGodandCountry

And water is wet.

News at 11.

Gail Combs

Ben Harnwell aka Inspector Clouseau…. (I am sorry, but every time I see the guy I think of Inspector Clouseau.)
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Anyway on the War Room yesterday he mentions 33 cases of DISEASE in the ‘Bubble’ around the Olympics. (20 minutes)

https://rumble.com/vt7gou-episode-1587-economy-collapse-market-collapse-biden-collapse.html

I am afraid this is the Second of the One-Two punch of the CCPs bio-logical warfare against the USA.

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BACK UP DATA:

Senior Member of CCP Think Tank Claims China Won Unprecedented Biological War Against the US in 2020

This study out of Wuhan shows HIGH LEVELS OF ANTIBODIES like that caused by the Clot Shot, will, when challenged by the correct variant of Sars, cause “antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)-mediated vaccine-induced infection aggravation”

2020 Nov
Antibody-dependent enhancement of coronavirusJieqi WenYifan ChengRongsong LingYarong DaiBoxuan HuangWenjie HuangSiyan Zhang, and Yizhou Jiang
Institute for Advanced Study, Shenzhen University, Shenzhen 518067, China

Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) exists in several kinds of virus. It has a negative influence on antibody therapy for viral infection. This effect was first identified in dengue virus and has since also been described for coronavirus…. In this review, antibody-dependent enhancements in dengue virus and two kinds of coronavirus are summarized. Possible solutions for the effects are reported. We also speculate that ADE may exist in SARS-CoV-2.

 14 March 2018
Evaluation of Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of SARS-CoV Infection in Rhesus Macaques Immunized with an Inactivated SARS-CoV Vaccine
Fan LuoFan-Lu LiaoHui WangHong-Bin TangZhan-Qiu Yang & Wei Hou
State Key Laboratory of Virology/Hubei Province Key Laboratory of Allergy and Immunology/Institute of Medical Virology, School of Basic Medical Sciences, Wuhan University, Wuhan, 430071, China

Currently, effective antiviral strategies to control SARS-CoV infections are lacking; vaccination is still regarded as the major approach for preventing SARS and related diseases. Generally, virus-specific antibodies play important roles in the control of viral infections. However, the presence of specific antibodies can be beneficial for infection in case of some viruses including flaviviruses, CoVs, and retroviruses (de Alwis et al. 2014; Jolly and Weiss 2000; Takano et al. 2008). Vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to SARS-CoV has been documented. One study showed that the antibody against SARS-CoV spikes protein potentiated infection of both monocytic and lymphoid cell lines, which do not express the virus receptor, and reported antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)-mediated vaccine-induced infection aggravation (Yip et al. 2014). We previously reported that an inactivated SARS-CoV Z-1 vaccine effectively elicits a neutralizing and protective antibody response in rhesus macaques (Luo et al. 2007; Zhou et al. 2005). Thus, to ensure the safety of the vaccine in clinical use, the present study examined whether the vaccine can trigger ADE.

It has been demonstrated that higher concentrations of anti-sera against SARS-CoV neutralized the SARS-CoV infection, while highly diluted anti-sera significantly increased the SARS-CoV infection and triggered ADE effects (Wang et al. 2014). Moreover, the low levels of neutralizing antibodies are more consistent in the context of vaccination of the general population. 

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Until now, several SARS-CoV vaccines have been developed using different vaccine platforms, including whole inactivated, DNA, subunit, and vectored vaccines (Enjuanes et al. 2008; Roberts et al. 2008). The immunogenicity and efficacy of these experimental vaccines have been evaluated in animal models such as mice, ferrets, hamsters, and non-human primates (Roberts et al. 2008). The monkey is the most widely studied animal model in SARS research. Similar to another study (Qin et al. 2006) on inactivated SARS vaccine in monkeys, in our previous study, the inactivated SARS-CoV Z-1 vaccine that elicits a robust serum-neutralizing antibody response in rhesus macaque provides protection from challenge with virus.

Nevertheless, at least one report has indicated that a SARS-CoV vaccine candidate based on recombinant full-length SARS-CoV spikes protein triggered infection of human B cell lines in vitro despite eliciting a neutralizing and protective immune response in rodents (Kam et al. 2007). Additionally, at least two studies have shown that anti-SARS-CoV-spiked immune serum potentiates infection of immune cell lines by SARS-CoV because of antibody-mediated ADE (Jaume et al. 2011; Wang et al. 2014). Meanwhile, another research group performed the ADE assays using sera from patients positive for SARS-CoV. The research data showed that treatment of human promonocyte with more diluted anti-sera collected from patients positive for SARS-CoV resulted in increased virus infectivity and cytopathic effect (Wang et al. 2014). Therefore, in our present study, although the clinical and histopathological observations, and viral assays indicated that the virus infection was not enhanced, we believe that an in vitro ADE assay should also be performed to examine whether the immune sera induced by inactivated vaccine can mediate ADE in some cell lines such as K562, THP-1 cells, and monkey’s peripheral blood mononuclear cells. Moreover, we need to investigate the molecular mechanisms and responses to antibody-mediated infection in vitro.

In conclusion, the clinical, virological, and pathological findings presented in this study revealed no exacerbation of infection in the rhesus macaques immunized with the inactivated SARS-CoV Z-1 vaccine following challenge with SARS-CoV NS-1. Therefore, these results preliminarily indicated that low levels of antibodies induced by the inactivated SARS-CoV Z-1 vaccine may not induce ADE in rhesus macaques, and the vaccine could be a good candidate for clinical trials.

“….Therefore, these results preliminarily indicated that low levels of antibodies induced by the inactivated SARS-CoV Z-1 vaccine MAY NOT INDUCE ADE in rhesus macaques…”

Northwestern Univ:Boosters increase protection over full vaccine dose …

The study shows booster doses generate a high level of neutralizing antibodies against the Delta variant, which should provide a high level of immune protection, scientists said. However, the neutralization response was even higher against the original version of the virus…

kalbokalbs

Anyway on the War Room yesterday he mentions 33 cases of DISEASE in the ‘Bubble’ around the Olympics.

I am afraid this is the Second of the One-Two punch of the CCPs bio-logical warfare against the USA.

^^^ With that in mind. ^^^

THIS IS OFF THE WALL, but just popped into my head.

  • 2022 Winter Olympics IN ChineeLand.
  • 2019 Military Olympics IN Wuhan, ChineeLand.

Simple way to spread a virus, GLOBALLY. Athletes and spectators returning to their home countries.

^^^ It’s only Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy, until proven true.

Yea, I dunno.

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Gail Combs

EXACTLY!
The first attack using athletes works so use it again. (THAT is why the truth has been squashed)

as Q said These People are STUPID and they use the same playbook over and over.

kalbokalbs

BiteMe had plenty of cover to cancel USA participation in Chinee Olympics.

Gail Combs

Any bets he WON’T because his Chinese masters WANT TO INFECT our athletes with a MORE LETHAL version of a corona virus???

Remember the GOAL is to have 13 out of 14 people on the earth DIE sooner rather than later.

kalbokalbs

No bets here, unless it IS BiteMe continues to play into Chinee / Globalist hands.

He’s been paid BIG bucks AND more bucks to come, under the table. gold, silver…

Gail Combs

==> Olympic schedule for Beijing 2022 (Feb 4-20).

I think some athletes are already arriving.

The Olympic Committee needs to be the FIRST TRIED AND HUNG!

NOTICE:

Anti-Olympic petition gains tens of thousands of signatures

An online petition calling for the Tokyo Olympics to be canceled has gained tens of thousands of signatures since being launched in Japan only days ago….

The Fake News is NOT sending their commentators but are SILENT on the petition AGAINST the CHINESE OLYMPICS!

Petition
STOP THE GENOCIDE GAMES!

yeah… CRICKETS!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊

There’s a reason why they’re calling them the Genocide Olympics.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. They’re forcing the athletes (and everyone else) to participate in a Clottery in order to participate in the Genocide Olympics…

Maybe wait until the Monsoon season and have the surfing, rowing, etc. competition by that faulty dam… with just the RED Chinese squads…

TheseTruths

every time I see the guy I think of Inspector Clouseau

Same here! 😂 He brings good data, though.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊

macaques???
PA???

barkerjim
Gail Combs

See my Ben Harnwell comment….

NOTE DATE: Epub 2008 Nov 18.

PubMed – NIH -gov
VEI = vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to virus infection

….For vaccine-induced enhanced susceptibility to infection with certain viruses like feline coronavirus, Dengue virus, and feline immunodeficiency virus, it has been shown that antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) plays an important role. Other mechanisms may, either in the absence of or in combination with ADE, be involved. Consequently, vaccine-induced enhancement has been a major stumble block in the development of certain flavi-, corona-, paramyxo-, and lentivirus vaccines….

THEY KNEW THE RISKS!…
And FauXI, Ralph Baric, FDA, the CDC and CMS and BYE-Done SET US UP!!!

Wolf Moon

Yeah – they knew them – proceeded anyway – are now being caught – so they used their own mistake against monoclonals but NOT the vaccines.

These people are ASSHOE of the worst kind.

Wolf Moon

Notice that Denninger is connecting the withdrawal of the monoclonals with the negative effectiveness of the vaccines against omicron!!!

Note that the Federal Government has just pulled the EUAs for monoclonals. These are drugs that are, effectively, the “final product in the body” of being jabbed. They know damn well what the risk is — not just that the drugs are worthless against Omicron but could end up boosting the infection, making it worse. Since these drugs are, basically, the product of the jabs the obvious risk that the same thing has or will happen with the jabs either with Omicron or what may evolve from it should be clear to anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size.

At present we do not know.

I’m using AND logic here. The SANE people in FDA won an argument on Wuhan/Omicron immunology, and then the Bidenistas USED IT, knowing that it would be negative AGAINST DeSANTIS – but NOT against the vaccines, because they “need time” or some BS like that.

POLITICIZED SCIENCE IS STILL POLITICIZED.

rayzorback

As I said a few days ago….
Politics x (Z) = Politics

Substitute the following for (Z)
Medicine
Law
Science
Academics
Music/Art

Aubergine

That’s right up there with E=mc2, razor! Good one!

para59r

Just a thought on this Monoclonal business. Understands the science is being followed here on saying MAs not good for Omicron. In the meantime we know the Feds took control of distribution of MA’s. Is there room in the science for them to have done something more, as in having the companies involved in altering the MA’s so that they are no longer effective against Omicron?

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Wolf Moon

DeSantis is absolutely right here.

  • not all monoclonals are ineffective against omicron – some are STILL effective
  • many people are still getting delta, and NEED those antibodies, which are still somewhat effective
  • Biden’s move will increase deaths, particularly for delta
  • omicron vs. delta is to some extent determinable by clinical evidence, but that idea violates the Bidenese medical doctrines
  • I don’t think anybody would make the MAs less effective against omicron – in fact, I’m wondering why they have not made products tailored to omicron – presumably they are working on them, but need to then do trials and get an EUA
  • Bidenese are forcing people onto Pfizer treatment, IMO. This is all about Pfizer running FDA, NIH, CDC.
TheseTruths