DEAR MAGA: TGIF Open Thread 20230127

Cuba Libre

Ingredients

  • 1 ounce rum
  • 3 ounces Coca-Cola
  • Garnish: lime wedge

Steps

  1. Fill a highball glass with ice, then add rum and Coca-Cola.
  2. Garnish with a lime wedge. Squeeze the lime into your drink, if desired.

The men in my family have a weakness for that one.

Eggs Causing Blood Clots? – Exercise On Examining How Clickbait Spreads and Medical Studies Are Warped

Mexico Has Banned All Attempts to Block the Sun

German Foreign Minister Just Said The Quiet Part Out Loud On Ukraine

Steven Crowder versus Big Conservative Media?

Who Will Not Risk, Cannot Win

Forgiving the Medically Brainwashed in the Post-COVID Era

Most of them were brainwashed long before the COVID era.

Kristi Leigh: How Corporate Media Sells False Narratives

They get the 4 am talking points.

Unwinding the Long Great Society

Feds adapting AI used to silence ISIS to combat American dissent on vaccines, elections

‘Raises Serious Ethics Concerns’: House Oversight Republicans Demand Art Dealer Turn Over Info On Embattled First Son Hunter Biden’s Paintings

It’s called the provenance. All art pieces have one.

ADAM SCHIFF IS SO DISTRAUGHT GETTING KICKED OFF OF THE HOUSE INTEL COMMITTEE HE JOINS TIKTOK, OWNED BY…YOU KNOW

How George Soros funds ‘fact checkers’ to silence dissent

Matt Gaetz: “They Had to Accuse Trump of Colluding with Russia Because He Was the Only One Who Wasn’t”

The Church Committee, for Dummies

Federal judge suspends enforcement of new California law targeting docs that provide Covid ‘misinformation’

Eggs and weather cause blood clots; ‘stroke season’; and ‘sudden cardiac arrest’ forms for high schoolers

You’ll Feel Better After the Truck Hits You

DON LEMON: FLORIDA LAW BANNING PORN IN SCHOOLS IS TOTALLY ‘LIKE THE 1950S ALL OVER AGAIN’ OR SOMETHING

WATCH: COLLEGE SICKO CLAIMS 12-YEAR-OLDS CAN CONSENT TO SEX WITH ADULTS. THERE SHOULD BE A WORD FOR THAT…

RETIRED FBI SPEAKS OUT AGAINST FBI AGENT ARRESTED EARLIER THIS WEEK

Sen. Johnson Calls For Congress to Investigate Vaccine Manufacturers and Covid Vax Approval Process in Response to Project Veritas’ Exposé on Pfizer

DR. DAVID MARTIN BRINGS MURDER CHARGES TO COURT OVER VAX DEATHS

Here’s Why the Big Club and People Managing Ron DeSantis Hate Donald Trump

Tweety Tweets:

Word is it’s feed from Tractor Supply.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1618411322005417986

Doing the dishes, vacuuming the floor, scrubbing the toilet…these should all be avoided lest the heart stops.

Google strikes again.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1618645796748152838

Really, Rand, please, comb the curls when you get out of the pool.

A lot of liberal men are still wearing them in these parts.

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1618688830638526464

Remember this?

https://twitter.com/PapiTrumpo/status/1618647581713928193

Thoughts?

No argument here. Well, other than the people here and several spouses of the same.

MEME STASH:

One relative from Florida was rather puzzled by that.

I’m really not sure if that’s satire.

https://twitter.com/buitengebieden/status/1618626533362667520

https://youtu.be/gyTfre9gaYs

And now for the business portion of the post borrowed from Tuesday:

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

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This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion. In that spirit, though, threats of violence real or hypothetical are out of bounds.

Fellow tree dweller the late Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And Auntie DePat’s requests:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

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MARK 4:26-34

26And he said, “The kingdom of God is as if a man should scatter seed upon the ground, 27and should sleep and rise night and day, and the seed should sprout and grow, he knows not how. 28The earth produces of itself, first the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear. 29But when the grain is ripe, at once he puts in the sickle, because the harvest has come.” 30And he said, “With what can we compare the kingdom of God, or what parable shall we use for it? 31It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when sown upon the ground, is the smallest of all the seeds on earth; 32yet when it is sown it grows up and becomes the greatest of all shrubs, and puts forth large branches, so that the birds of the air can make nests in its shade.” 33With many such parables he spoke the word to them, as they were able to hear it; 34he did not speak to them without a parable, but privately to his own disciples he explained everything.

SATIRE!

Have a good weekend!

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TheseTruths

A great collection of info and fun!

I see some wearing masks but they are almost always with their family.

Regarding the inmate who has beaten two child molesters to death in prison, I’ve seen people cheering for what he did. My question is Are we a civilized society with a rule of law? The molesters were convicted and serving time, as was right. Maybe there are details that I don’t know, but this man now has two murders on his soul and on his record. But I expect most people would say they got what they deserve.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I agree! Laws matter, and THE ENEMY has encouraged us to wish for wicked vengeance, in contradiction to the Word of our Lord. Period.

TheseTruths

Romans 12:19
Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN!!!

ROBERT BAKER

Speaking to the larger point, (not specific to your prison example above), I would like to consider this question: When the Lord exacts vengeance does He use human agents or does He do it Himself? If He does use human agency how can we tell whether it is God or human vengeance?

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Valerie Curren

Excellent inquiry!

Aubergine

I like your question.

TheseTruths

I imagine He uses both. How can we tell?

He commands us not to commit murder.
A man murders another with no personal provocation like self defense or defense of others (that I know of).
I do not believe God would cause someone to disobey His commandments to carry out His vengeance on an individual in an act that was not part of God’s overarching plan for mankind. This was not such an act; it was personal wrath (breaking another commandment) that resulted in murder.

ROBERT BAKER

Now for a trickier question: There are several accounts of God carrying out His wrath on human beings. The easiest example is probably the plagues on Egypt. Now we know from Scripture that God does indeed get angry; your quote above being an example. Is the vengeance of God merely a different way of saying the judgment of God, in other words are vengeance and judgment the same thing when speaking of God’s actions?

TheseTruths

Good food for thought. I can only state the thoughts that enter my head; in other words, I have no authority for what I am saying except that it is something that occurs to me.

I would think vengeance is a subset of judgment. The plagues you mention were part of an ongoing series of events that were part of God’s judgment. If any one of those plagues was vengeance, then it was part of the judgment.

ROBERT BAKER

All we have are our opinions about God’s actions. I didn’t ask those questions because I knew the answer but because I find the discussion about God or his character and actions interesting, but they are more complex than some are willing to admit. I thought your answers were well formulated and reasonable. While these kinds of questions are academic in nature I try to always have in the front of my mind that I should not try to be God’s press secretary. There are some things I know and some I do not know. I definitely know that I am not God’s press secretary..

TheseTruths

Well said.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Just like I’m pretty sure not a one of the various denominations has the correct doctrine. Therefore, I’m not gonna get in knock down/drag out theological arguments with my brothers and sisters in Christ. I figure as long as we all believe in Jesus, God will straighten us all out once we get to Heaven.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

 I figure as long as we all believe in Jesus, God will straighten us all out once we get to Heaven.

That is, itself, a specific doctrine.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

That’s what my Bible says and I’m sticking with it!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

God is not a man that he would lie. When He gives his Word, He keeps it. He won’t use men to exact vengeance which he says belongs to him. It’s possible he could dispatch His angels to do what He wants, but we aren’t privy to that info. He won’t come to earth either, except in the form of Jesus as in the past and in the 2nd coming.

Here are all the judgements, past and future that the Bible mentions. We are now in the dispensation of Grace. .

What are all the different judgments in the Bible? | GotQuestions.org

Judgments to occur in the future:

The judgments of the tribulation period (Revelation 6—16). These terrible judgments are pictured as seven seals opened, seven trumpets blown, and seven bowls poured out. God’s judgment against the wicked will leave no doubt as to His wrath against sin. Besides punishing sin, these judgments will have the effect of bringing the nation of Israel to repentance.

The judgment seat of Christ (2 Corinthians 5:10). Resurrected (and raptured) believers in heaven will be judged for their works. Sin is not in view at this judgment, as that was paid for by Christ, but only faithfulness in Christian service. Selfish works or those done with wrong motives will be burned up (the “wood, hay, and stubble” of 1 Corinthians 3:12). Works of lasting value to the Lord will survive (the “gold, silver, and precious stones”). Rewards, which the Bible calls “crowns” (Revelation 3:11) will be given by the One who is “not unjust; he will not forget your work and the love you have shown him” (Hebrews 6:10).

The judgment of the nations (Matthew 25:31–46). After the tribulation, the Lord Jesus will sit in judgment over the Gentile nations. They will be judged according to their treatment of Israel during the tribulation. This judgment is also called the judgment of the sheep and the goats because of the imagery Jesus uses in the Olivet Discourse. Those who showed faith in God by treating Israel favorably (giving them aid and comfort during the tribulation) are the “sheep” who will enter into the Millennial Kingdom. Those who followed the Antichrist’s lead and persecuted Israel are the “goats” who will be consigned to hell.

The judgment of angels (1 Corinthians 6:2–3). Paul says that Christians will judge angels. We aren’t exactly sure what this means, but the angels facing judgment would have to be the fallen angels. It seems that Satan’s hordes of demons will be judged by the redeemed ones of the Lamb. Some of these demons are already imprisoned in darkness and awaiting judgment, according to Jude 1:6, due to their leaving their proper dwelling place.

The Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11–15). This final judgment of unbelievers for their sins occurs at the end of the Millennium, before the creation of the new heaven and earth. At this judgment, unbelievers from all the ages are judged for their sins and consigned to the lake of fire.

ROBERT BAKER

That is why the second question about the difference between vengeance and judgment is a tricky question. There are many times and places in the Scripture where God directs or takes action on human beings. The First Testament (OT) has many examples. Whether God has used human beings to exact His judgment or vengeance on other human beings is a bit more difficult to determine. When God acts as a Judge his determinations may be classified as generally objective (someone paying for a crime). When God acts because something has angered Him subjectively, such action may be termed vengeance. So in a sense vengeance is responding to a personal affront, while judgment is enforcing a broken law.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

God controls the heart of a King.
He gave them over to a reprobate mind.

We perceive what we think He’s doing but we do not know for sure….. unless you ask and He answers….or tells us later.

I personally believe there’s things we’ll never know the answers to. If there’s no more sorrow or pain in Heaven, why would He reveal to us who shot JFK, MLK, or any other burning question that the answer to would anger or upset us? Once we’re in Heaven, those things no longer matter.

ROBERT BAKER

As I said earlier, these questions are academic in nature and of personal interest. There is no assumption that someone might win the debate by positing the correct answer.

TradeBait2

Ezekiel 37:3

“You know.”

piper567

God also told Pharaoh that He raised him up to display His glory…and control of the ‘situation’. And the Israelis’ freedom from the hail, darkness, etc., rather proved His point.

ROBERT BAKER

There is a great deal of interesting material in the God vs Pharaoh narrative in Exodus. God had serious issues with Pharaoh which come to light in the language of the passage. Scripture reminds the reader over and over that God hates (not too strong a word I would suggest) injustice and when He acts it generally does not go well for the people responsible.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One thing I do know is that lust for vengeance in general, and extrajudicial vengeance in particular, was encouraged by cultural Marxists in Hollywood, starting in the 1970s. In many ways, this created lower expectations for legal justice, and higher expectations for violent justice, exactly as we see from the Democrat party, which now encourages sloth and corruption in legal justice, to be resolved by violence and anarchy through BLM and Antifa, often by the same agents excused from legal justice.

All of this seems to be antithetical to fundamental teachings, in general, of both the Old and New Testaments, which teach us to live according to the law, in letter and then in spirit.

The term “acts of God” used to be more clear, in them being not obviously acts of human agency. Our forgetting that seems to be both ironic and symptomatic of the problem.

The idea that specific human agency should be in accordance with the Word of God, to be considered even part of an “act of God”, seems reasonable, although at a very general and high level, the idea that crime is rewarded badly, as a teaching of God, is part of the idea that all human activity is, at some level, an “act of God”, in the sense that creation itself is an act of God.

At a high enough level, all evil must be the act of God, yet at the specific level, we claim that no particular evil is the act of God. Mao might even have observed that this is the fundamental and driving contradiction of creation, if he had been wise enough to believe in God!  😉 

As I like to say, communism is like rust – in some ways, a necessary evil. Human vengeance may be similar, and it’s not surprising that they are related.

I was just thinking about this mathematically, in that funny simple graph of “fuck around and find out”. Is something part of “fuck around”, or is it part of “find out”? Which part of that is God’s? Or is it all God’s, and we just learn His preferences?

I will simply thank God that I was given the opportunity to FAFO, and to learn to FO without FA!  😍 

scott467

“My question is Are we a civilized society with a rule of law?

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Rule of Law officially went out the window on January 20, 2021.

We can’t have organized crime running the country and have rule of law.

Brave and Free

Yes, they have no rule of law except what benefits themselves.
But we need rule of law in our life we’re responsible for our actions.

scott467

“es, they have no rule of law except what benefits themselves.
But we need rule of law in our life we’re responsible for our actions.”

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The problem, of course, is that the rule of law is enforced (or not) by TCTB (the criminals that be).

When criminals are in charge, the foundations of society are upended.

Everything we know or thought we knew no longer applies.

But we continue on as if they do still apply, because it’s all we know. And TCTB are not only very pleased by that response, they were counting on it.

TheseTruths

We can’t have organized crime running the country and have rule of law.

Actually, we can. If we don’t, then it’s anarchy, which we do not have at this time except in Atlanta.

The rule of law worked in this case. Child molesters were convicted and imprisoned.

para59r

Likely demonstrated a give a freak attitude about their crimes and were properly sent for by God for expediated action.

TheseTruths

Just my opinion, but I think we need to be careful not to attribute our emotions to God.

Isaiah 55:8-9
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

scott467

“Actually, we can.”

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What we have is not rule of Law, it is simple tyranny, might makes right.

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“If we don’t, then it’s anarchy, which we do not have at this time except in Atlanta.”

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If we don’t (and we don’t), it’s not anarchy, the threat of tyrannical punishment works very well to prevent anarchy. What we have is tyranny, and we are captives. We live in an occupied nation.

But that’s unpleasant to think about, so like so many other things, many people will choose denial as a coping mechanism.

I don’t want to fight about it TT, it’s only in self-defense that I am compelled to point out reality.

The world as we know it is disintegrating. The only chance to maintain sanity is not to fool ourselves about what is happening, or what is being done to us.

TheseTruths

I agree about the disintegration, just not that the rule of law is completely gone and that any example one could name would be an instance of “might makes right.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The rule of law still functions between those who honor it, and that is the problem. The Crims have made sure it’s not applied to them, or to anybody that they say is excluded. We live under bad old European “monarchic oligarchy”. We are very close to “founding conditions”.

scott467

“I agree about the disintegration, just not that the rule of law is completely gone”

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When certain people (e.g., MAGA) are held to account to the rule of Law, while the political-class and those whom they favor are not, that is not rule of Law, that is tyranny.

When the ‘proper authorities’ protect and release members of the political-class and those whom they favor, and throw the book at people like us, that is not rule of Law, that is tyranny.

Any law which does not apply equally to everyone is not a law at all, it is tyranny, the abusive power of the State to punish their ideological ‘enemies’ and reward their ideological fellow travelers.

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“…and that any example one could name would be an instance of “might makes right.”

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1) raid on Mar-a-Lago, no raid on Biden, Pence – same supposed ‘crime’, two completely different applications of ‘law’ – might makes right, because who had the power to stop them? Only the police and military. Whose side are they on? Demonstrably?

2) peaceful protest political prisoners from January 6th, 2021 vs. every violent BLM and anti-fa criminal who was ‘caught and released’ in less than 24 hours – might makes right, because who had the might to stop them? Only the police and military. Whose side are they on? Based on their actions (or lack thereof)?

3) lawful election winner vs. lawless election thief in chief, installed by domestic traitors and foreign adversaries – might makes right, because who had the might to stop them? Only the police and military. Whose side are they on?

Who should we believe? The excuse makers, or our own lying eyes?

para59r

“goaded him into it”. That was what I was thinking. Demonstrated no remorse in front of the wrong person. Assumes God took over from there needing to see the perp right away for final disposition.

kalbokalbs

Rule of Law? <<< Have not seen it in years.

I’d rather focus on any of the following…

  • J6 Political Prisoners.
  • FDA approving Covidiot Injections, which the FDA knows are NOT safe, NOT effective AND injure, handicap AND kill its victims.
  • ^^^ Pravda NEWS AND politicians act like Covidiot Injections are OK fine.
  • Ukraine money laundering machine, which may lead to WW III.
  • An open southern border.
  • Assault on fossil fuels.
  • Corrupt government pushing green bs that IS an outright fraud.
bakocarl

I still see a few with masks walking their dogs alone.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

TOTUS, Sippie, Bubble & Fly!

pgroup2

… and a very creative seal on the podium.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes!!!

cthulhu

Can’t forget the blood on his hands!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES. Wow.

TheseTruths
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOW. That’s some ending.

Barb Meier

This respondent identifies the author of the video.

Here <<https://inshadow.net >> it is the superb work of « Lubomir Arsov », who is currently preparing a new short film.

The one that is the source of questions is made by the French studio « Barracudas » (title: Stop Nazi Games)… I’ll let you look for a better version.

Gingersmom2009

Saw this yesterday, but it’s so dark I hesitated to bring it here.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup.

Love the genes you’re with. And stop lying to kids, you demons out there!

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

Rumors Swirling That Progressive Wingnut Marianne Williamson Is Planning To Challenge Biden In 2024
Great headline, LOL. She was considered the attractive Dem candidate before.

WSB

I REALLY like ‘Wingnut’…Marianne is FUN!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I love this lady. She’s my favorite crazy person, and WAY better than Biden.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

There’s good crazy and bad crazy, and she’s the good kind. If she runs, it means one less bad person is running for President.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Elise has an interesting approach – will it work?

scott467

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rayzorback

Next time….. Kick that Bitch in the head.

michaelh

Thanks to Stefanik . . .

But the agencies are the weed, taproot and all, not the soil.

RF121

A total waste of time and will achieve zero. You defund the agencies completely. Starting with salaries. No need for the committee.

cthulhu
Gail Combs

Just in case you were wondering…
Insider Reveals Salem Media Was Part of The Coordinated Gang-of-Eight Manipulation…
March 7, 2016 | Sundance 

Politics as an industry – Salem Communications [radio talk show (Hugh Hewitt), Red State (Eric Erickson), now also Twitchy (Michelle Malkin), Hot Air (McCain), NRO, Townhall, Human Events, Bearing Arms] apparently have the same general ideological world view -regarding immigration- as Rupert Murdoch and The Wall Street Journal, etc.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wow.

Gail Combs

Gail’s old notes strike again!  🤓 

scott467

Anyone who might be interested in that video of the Eagles at the Capital Centre (1977), the following songs from the concert are included in the History of the Eagles blu-ray:

Hotel California (6:51)
New Kid In Town (5:26)
Take It To The Limit (5:01)
One Of These Nights (3:51)
Lyin’ Eyes (6:21)
Rocky Mountain Way (7:31)
Best Of My Love (4:32)
Take It Easy (5:54)

If you were interested in a good way to hear it, I’ve done a little research into that.

You could do worse than a pair of 6-1/2 foot tall Tekton Ulfbehrt speakers:

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Except maybe make them red:

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Then add a stacked array of six REL monster subs:

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For amplifier power, you could go solid state with a Coda No. 16.0 with 100w per channel of pure class A power and maximum current of 100 amperes per channel. It’s a little heavy at 110Lb, but once it’s hooked up, you shouldn’t need to move it around a lot 😉

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Or maybe go with a nice pair of Manley 100w tube mono blocks:

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For a pre-amp, especially if you’re also going to be playing records and need a high quality built in phono pre-amp, the Shindo Masseto is supposed to sound very nice:

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Or a classic Manley Steelhead phono-pre with a line stage input so it can also be used as a pre-amp for a digital source (e.g., blu-ray player or CD player):

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An Oppo BDP-105 universal blu-ray player (or more recent model) should do fine for a blu-ray player.

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If you want to take advantage of the optional 5.1 surround track on the blu-ray, we’ll have to add a few more components.

But if stereo is all you need, then all that’s really left to do, is turn off the lights, and turn up the volume. I’m positive this music should be played loud.

Oh yeah, and a good stereo chair always helps 😁

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cthulhu
scott467

I would definitely like to hear those 😁

cthulhu

Mind you, the biggest Infinity speakers I’ve actually seen in person were…..

….but they had an odd characteristic. When played at relatively normal volumes (like the video), on a nominally 100W per channel amplifier, they would suck current like mad fiends because their impedance was so low.

cthulhu

The original version of this speaker had EMIM drivers (bigger rectangular ribbon speakers) instead of the little cones. As the PS Audio youtube clip noted, these tended to delaminate and fixing them was $350 each — it’s no great surprise that they went to this version very rapidly.

I would love to have a pair, if I can get one at reasonable cost someday.

Back in the day, the whole line down to bookshelf speakers had a crisp tightness that made them a joy to listen to.

They’ve been sold a number of times and I wouldn’t purchase a new Infinity speaker without listening to it carefully.

cthulhu

The old version with EMIMs

scott467

And a big screen TV.

I knew I was forgetting something!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

B&W 808s each driven by a bridged NAD amp at 330 watts.

scott467

I’ve had an NAD 2200 amplifier since I was in high school, when it was featured in Stereophile or Absolute Sound.

It still works, currently hooked up to my computer, to power my old JBL 4312C speakers for yt videos 👍

cthulhu

Those look nice.

Of course, speakers can have some really odd peculiarities….

Remember BOSE 901’s — top and bottom shaped like home plate, very expensive “direct/reflective” speakers?

I never cared much for their performance in a room, but they were great for live music outside or in a large theater or something….but, then, one time at the University of Casual Sun-Bathing, they were completely magical.

There was a large multi-story dorm building adjacent to a dining commons. Down the hill from both was a Eucalyptus grove that screened the buildings from the campus lagoon. Someone was playing Pink Floyd at some insane volume out of his dorm windows at the Eucalyptus, and it bounced back off the leaves to the dining commons like the trees, themselves, were the source of the sound. Just an incredible effect.

cthulhu
scott467

I talked to Jeff Dorgay at Tone Publications once. There was a problem with their website, so I called the phone number on the website to tell somebody, and left a voicemail.

About 5 minutes later Jeff Dorgay (author of many review articles) called me back and we talked stereos for about 20 minutes 😂

Like at least a few other reviewers for music publications, he has a six-pack array of REL subs.

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cthulhu

That’s cool! That’s the sort of thing that made America so great.

When I first moved to Silicon Valley, people like Steve Wozniak and David Packard were in the white pages.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The fact of the matter is I haven’t used the 808s in months. The problem is my integrated amp (obviously I pull the left and right channel out of it before the power amp stage) keeps needing reset because the damned HDMI controllers on it suck–they start randomly dropping signal for a few seconds, then it gets worse. Of course a reset means spending half an hour reconfiguring the damned thing, so at some point I just give up on surround sound and run the DVD player directly to the TV.

It’s a Denon, and it’s the second surround sound HDMI Denon unit I have had. Absolute crap reliability and I used to love that brand.

I should probably just swap the unit out for my old pre-amp but I’m not even sure the DVD player has RCA outputs! (Plus I would have to get into that preamp and clean the contacts on the volume knob–and, oh yeah, no remote control!)

scott467

I have been slowly getting into multichannel.

Not because I really wanted to, but at least for movies, it would enhance the experience. That, and after nearly 20 years of adding hybrid CD/SACD music discs and blu-ray audio discs and DVD-A discs with multi-channel capability to my collection, it would be interesting to finally hear some of them in multi-channel.

The main issues I always had were these:

1) sound effects in a movie are much less important to me than the best sound possible from a 2-channel stereo system

2) every dollar spent on extra speakers for a surround system is money that could be spent upgrading the two main speakers (or other stereo components), which is more important to me

Because stereo music was always going to be more important to me than movie surround sound effects, I could never justify spending, for example, $5,000 dollars more to add 5 more speakers for a 7.1 surround system, when I could put that $5,000 towards getting better main left & right stereo speakers (or other better quality stereo system components).

But you can get relatively inexpensive surround speakers now that sound plenty good enough for movie sound effects, and besides, I have collected enough speakers over the years at this point that I have enough to patch together a hodgepodge surround system 😁

So the next issue was powering all those speakers and making it work as intended. After some basic research, I went the Audio/Video receiver route, with a Denon x3700H.

It measures well and gets high ratings (for an AVR) at AudioScienceReview.com (follow the science!!! 😂 )

But then I heard about the GeerFab Audio D.BOB digital breakout box. Seemed promising.

Then I found the AudioPraise VanityPro HDMI extractor (specs here). This thing will take the HDMI audio out from an Oppo (or other universal disc player), whether SACD 2.0 or multichannel, or blu-ray audio (stereo or multi-channel), or DVD-A, etc., and send it to an external DAC.

There is a stereo version with multiple output options (AES/EBU outs, RCA S/PDIF outs, BNC outs and Toslink out), and there is an 8-channel version with only AES/EBU or only RCA S/PDIF outs.

And apparently there is no penalty for going with the multichannel version (besides losing output connector options), i.e., even if you just use the multi-channel version for stereo, there is no loss in sound quality compared to the stereo-only version, and you preserve the capability to expand for multichannel in the future.

So for redbook / CD digital, I have a CD transport connected to a stereo DAC, connected to a pre-amp, connected to my main amplifier.

But if I wanted to listen to the SACD layer of any of the hybrid CD/SACDs I have collected over the years (and a few SACD-only discs), and DVD-A discs, and blu-ray audio discs, I needed to use my Oppo to play them, and rely on the Oppo’s internal DAC, to my pre-amp, to my main amplifier.

With the Audiopraise VanityPro HDMI extractor, if I understand correctly, it should take the DSD or other digital signal from the HDMI output of the Oppo, bypass the Oppo’s internal DAC (so I would be using the Oppo for a transport only), and outputs the digital signal so you can use an external stereo DAC of your choosing.

Or up to four external DACs (two channels each) of your choosing, for a multi-channel surround system.

And there is now a high quality 8-channel DAC, called the Okto Dac8 Pro that is a perfect match for the Audiopraise VanityPro HDMI extractor’s 4 x 2 channel AES/EBU outs, into the Okto Dac8 Pro’s 4 x 2 AES / EBU inputs.

And then the Okto Dac8 Pro outputs in analog, either 2-channel blanaced (XLR) stereo, or 4 x 2-channel balanced (XLR) multichannel, or 2-channel stereo (AES/EBU), or via USB.

And thanks to Audiopraise VanityPro, the HDMI / DSD / CD digital data extractor, the digital content of any disc (blu-ray, SACD, CD, DVD, DVD-A) can now be liberated and processed externally.

And thanks to a device like the Okto Dac8 pro, you only need one device to convert up to 8 channels of multichannel input (2 main front speakers, 1 center channel, 1 subwoofer/LFE channel, two side surround speakers and two rear surround speakers, so 7.1).

Then you need to output the analog signal from the Dac8 Pro to pre-amps and out to the amplifiers.

You would need a pre-amp that can accept balanced XLR inputs from the Dac8 Pro, or use XLR to RCA converters, which it would be nice to avoid converters if possible.

If you get a pre-amp with balanced XLR inputs and outputs, an amplifier like the Benchmark AHB2 has balanced XLR inputs, so a balanced signal could be maintained from:

Audiopraise VanityPro –>
Okto Dac8 Pro –>
Pre-amp –>
Amplifier –>
Speakers

And apparently DSP room-correction adjustments can be applied at some point in the signal path, if desired.

With a pre-amp used for each amplifier, you have individual control of volume level for each pair of speakers in the surround system.

And with multiple stereo amplifiers, you are getting full power with plenty of headroom for dynamic range, which is always a problem when companies try to stuff 7 or 9+ channels into a single chassis AVR.

So it is possible.

The cost of the Audiopraise VanityPro (about $1,600) and the Okto Dac8 Pro (about $1,500) is not astronomical, in the world of audio / video electronics.

I have enough old receivers and amplifiers laying around to hook up my hodgepodge of old speakers to give it shot, so I’m thinking about it.

But the real incentive, for me, is to be able to route the stereo signal from the Oppo universal disc player (for SACD, blu-ray audio or DVD-A discs) to the main stereo system and speakers, without being beholden to the internal DAC in the Oppo.

I can extract that audio-only signal through the Audiopraise VanityPro (and also send the HDMI signal out from the Audiopraise VanityPro direct to the TV for concert videos, for example) and route the signal through the external stereo DAC of my choice (or 8-channel Dac8 Pro for movies or multi-channel audio discs).

The AVR, by it’s jack-of-all trades multiple-component-in-one-box nature, is the weakest link in a stereo oriented music system, so I wanted to keep the “music system” separate from the “movie system”.

And that creates its own problems, with space (e.g., do you squeeze the TV for the movie system between the stereo speakers of the main music system, or have the movie sound system and TV at one end of the room and the stereo music system at the other), redundancy/duplication, etc.

By going with all separate components, it should be possible to integrate the music and movie systems without the movie system doing harm to the stereo system, if that makes sense.

It’s a work in progress 😉

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cthulhu

One of the things about assembling quality equipment in the dorms is the question of what you do when you change roommates…..

I had a top-of-the-line Onkyo integrated amplifier, and a decent Technics turntable; my roommate had a pair of Infinity speakers and a Nakamichi tape deck. When he moved on, I got a pair of Kamchatka speakers.

Or, rather, I should say I made a pair of speakers from boxes that originally contained bottles of Kamchatka vodka.

I taped the crap out of the seams and got a pair of car stereo speakers from the swap meet. I cut holes in the box where the distances to each wall were not multiples (to avoid standing waves), reinforced the edges of the holes, stuffed the innards full of aquarium filter fiber, then mounted the speakers in the boxes. The pair were mirror images of each other.

For what they were, they sounded surprisingly good. I actually liked their sound better than some Yamaha speakers I’d heard. I used ’em for a couple of years before I could buy my own quality speakers.

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scott467

Those B&W 808s are bigger than I thought!

I would love to hear them 👍

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I remember the first time I saw pictures of them, I shrugged, just another box speaker. But the picture made them look tiny.

They are in fact about four feet tall and I can lean against one without budging it.

I bought mine used…for 1500 bucks. I almost tore the pocket off my pants reaching for my wallet. They were 8000 bucks new, roughly in 1980.

I’ve heard of people trading up to much more expensive speakers from these, and regretting it.

WSB

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What…no SCREEN? Looks a bit vintage. Just music?

Monster woofers? They should be on the floor. Or am I just off?

scott467

It’s just a photo I found online, when I searched for B&W 808 speakers. Looks like an unfinished room in the photo.

Could be a strictly music system, but the low equipment rack would certainly allow for a TV or projection screen to be above the rack and between the speakers.

The ‘monster’ woofers I was referring to in my earlier post are the Model No. 32 subwoofers by REL:

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They are $10k each, weight about 200 Lbs. each, each with a 15″ woofer and an internal 1,000w amplifier.

They can be used singly (on the floor), or as a stereo pair (two on the floor).

But they are also designed with stacking in mind. The ‘feet’ are more like wide rails, with some sort of soft but durable material on the bottom, so when you stack one on top of another, they do not mar the multi-coat piano black lacquer finish.

The smaller models are secured to each other with a metal strap in the back, to prevent sliding due to vibration. The 200 Lb. model No. 32s are heavy enough to not need the metal strap connection reinforcement.

The signal from the amplifier only goes to the bottom subwoofer. Then as each subwoofer is stacked upon the other, it is connected to the one below it, in a daisy-chain manner.

Comes with all the connection possibilities you could want: High Level Neutrik Speakon, Low Level stereo RCA and XLR, LFE RCA, LFE XLR

The “high level” connection is recommended for listening to music. The “speakon” connector (more often found in professional audio equipment) connects with regular speaker wires at the amplifier, to the same binding posts as the main speakers. The subwoofers don’t use any of the main system’s amplifier power, just the signal, so that the subs are receiving the identical signal as the main speakers, without going through any outboard processing.

Blurb from the REL website:

“No.32’s 1,000-watt amplifier was also used in its predecessor for over seven years. Thousands of these amplifiers are in use all over the world; they are a paragon of reliability. Its implementation in No.32 combines a new limiter with a much wider envelope to permit the widest dynamic swings possible. Also, No.32’s dual parametric EQs allow for robust and flat response in the lowest ranges, extending below 20 Hz. When its second EQ is set to frequencies above the crossover point, No.32 meshes perfectly with the main speakers while simultaneously reducing room-based resonances.”

It also comes with a remote control, so all adjustments can be made from the listening position:

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In addition to being able to individually control the frequency range covered by each subwoofer in a stack of three, to blend in seamlessly with the main speakers, there is another reason to stack the subwoofers in order to elevate the upper four (two per side) from floor level.

When we experience live music, the bass isn’t only on the floor, it’s all around us, including at ear level, and considering the concert stage is often above us (or the stack of Marshall amps are above the audience), there is plenty of bass energy at the venue that is nowhere near the floor.

By stacking subwoofers, as part of a system intentionally designed to work together, you are that much closer to replicating the live experience.

I read lots of professional and personal reviews for all kinds of stereo equipment, and it usually takes a lot of reading between the lines, because in most cases, reviewers don’t want to say a component is horrible.

But when the reviewer says it made such a dramatic and positive difference in his reference system that he couldn’t live without it when it was switched off (or removed) from the system, so he bought the review component(s), that’s when you know they mean it 😁

There are multiple professional reviewers who were not willing to let these things go, once they heard them in their stereo system.

They have access to the best equipment in the world, and review such components for a living. They test and personally evaluate more equipment than I will ever be able to do. So the stuff they like enough to buy and make a permanent part of their own system is something worth considering.

I don’t expect to ever have the Model No. 32s. Even used at half price, they would still be $5k apiece. And they’re HUGE, you need a lot of space for them, and you have to have a room big enough to not be overwhelmed by the output.

But REL also makes smaller versions that are designed to be stacked, starting with the REL S/510 (10″ woofer) at MSRP of $2,749 or around $1,400 used if you’re patient, or less if you are buying multiple units.

As mentioned in one of the videos I posted above, you can start with one, or better yet two, and then add more as desired. The connectivity is designed into the component 🙂

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scott467

Don’t get mad at me though, if it turns out to be a slippery slope… and a few weeks later you have six of these things stacked in your family room 😂

Just enjoy the music 👍😁

WSB

I was horrified at the 5″ thick grey acoustic foam or whatever it is on the wall in my brother’s sound sweetening studio at either Laser Pacific or Technicolor. Both studios actually!

Completely necessary, but butt-ugly!

WSB

The grey foam looks like grey drab egg crate interiors…

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scott467

Yes, ye olden acoustic foam 👍

Not easy to make that look good in a normal living space 😁

WSB

The cat might mistake this for a Rumba, with no scale on the size! LOLOL!!!

WSB

PS The room looks finished but absolutely no sound absorption!

Wonderful wood floor. Lovely classic tables on either side, and great moldings! Could be a marketing photo, IMHO.

scott467

My mistake, I thought you were referring to this picture!

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scott467

“Could be a marketing photo, IMHO.”

It is, it’s from the REL company website 👍

WSB

Also, not sure how large you would want your windows to be with those two beasts in the room!!!!! HA!

scott467

Glass is not good from an acoustic standpoint, and then there is the ‘rattle’ potential.

My understanding is that if you get a serious subwoofer set-up like discussed above, one of the things you have to do is track down every rattle caused by the subs, and fix or otherwise silence the rattle 😁

Rattling windows, vibrating stuff on a knickknack shelf, vibrating lamps, picture frames vibrating against the wall, you name it 👍

cthulhu

The funny thing about 5.1 surround sound [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.1_surround_sound ] is that it explicitly calls out the subwoofer as being for non-directional “low-frequency effects” [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-frequency_effects ] felt by the body — not actual sound heard by the ears.

While the Tekton Ulfbehrts have a subwoofer (it’s the little stack of woofers on the left of center in the white picture), it’s arguable that the Infinity speakers in the video below wouldn’t need one because they’d just drive their paired bass drivers that low — 1,000W per driver should be plenty.

scott467

The Ulfbehrt model is just the tall main speakers, the subwoofer shown in the photo is called the 4-10 sub (4 x 10″ woofers).

The stacked array of REL subwoofers are the new Reference No. 32 model, with a 15″ carbon fiber woofer and a 4″ throw / stroke, powered by an internal 1,000 watt amplifier, and weighs 200Lbs.

Times six 😂

cthulhu

But you don’t need them in pairs. Instead, you’d be better off putting the red pair of Ulfbehrts behind you and the white pair in front, and hiding the 4-10 sub under your couch.

scott467

The idea (as I understand it) behind the six-pack array is that first, it helps to have more than one subwoofer to eliminate standing waves.

So you start with a pair.

One of the frequent problems with subs, when it comes to a stereo music system (as opposed to a multichannel system for movies), is integrating the subs seamlessly with the main left and right speakers.

The REL sub connects to the same binding posts on your amplifier that your speakers connect to. They also have LFE connections for an audio/video receiver, but for best sound with music, the connection is direct to the amplifier.

Then each sub is connected to each other in each stack, daisy-chain, with a speakon-connector.

So you start with a REL sub to the outside of each main speaker, and the bottom sub covers the lowest frequencies.

The middle subs cover a little higher frequency.

The 3rd or top sub in the stack covers the frequency were it crosses over to the main speakers.

So you don’t have a single (or stereo pair) sub trying to cover from say 10-15Hz up to 40Hz (for example). When you give each sub a smaller frequency range to cover, it can blend in with the main speakers better.

And the carbon fiber woofer is light enough to be fast enough to not lag behind the main speakers.

That’s the basic idea, anyway.

The owner of REL explains it better, of course:

scott467

This one is more in depth, a 30 minute set-up video:

cthulhu

I have to admit, the thought of discovering a 20 Hz dinosaur stomp six inches under one’s butt had me chortling.

cthulhu

Some day, when I get to someplace I can build my dream workshop, I have a pair of original Altec-Lansing “Voice of the Theater” speakers that I need to rebuild. I inherited them from my grandfather, and he likely managed the production line that built them the first time. The crossovers probably qualify as toxic waste, and the woofer cones are 70-year-old paper, so this is likely to be a project. The piezo horn tweeters, however, will probably survive well past the time we evolve to Morlocks and Eloi.

cthulhu

When my grandfather first was assigned to manage the speaker production line, he could tell that everyone on it was rolling their eyes. Yet another junior management candidate that didn’t know dick and was going to take credit for everything good and blame them for everything that went wrong.

So he went out and watched ’em for a few days. Then, one at a time, he called ’em in for a short talk — he introduced himself and said he’d been watching how skillfully they worked. He asked if there were one small change that would make their jobs easier, what would it be? Then he’d continue to the next guy.

When he was done, he watched ’em for a couple of days….and little things started changing. Instead of the guy that got the driver charts walking back to the office to staple them to the work order, a stapler magically appeared next to his worktable. In places where the date of assembly was supposed to be written, a rubber stamp showed up. Instead of a pallet of woofers and tweeters showing up to position #1 on the assembly line, a half-pallet of tweeters would show up to position #2 and a half-pallet of woofers would show up in position #7. A workstation would move six inches overnight so that things could move through the area more smoothly…..

About a month later, he called each of ’em in and asked how things were going and whether their jobs had improved. Again, he asked “what small change could make their jobs easier?” As he repeated his method, he’d also branch out into related areas — asking the shipping guys how delivery of the assembled speakers would help them; asking the production control guys how he could get valid work orders quicker and easier.

After six months, he reported to higher management that his guys had improved productivity by 10%. Expecting that he’d be exalting himself, he was pressed to blow his horn about his success…..and said, “no, no, it’s my guys’ success — all I did was fetch ’em staplers and such.”

Valerie Curren

What a great management style!!!

Gail Combs

THAT is how a manager is SUPPOSED to work. Get the crap out of the way so the workers can do the job.

cthulhu

Regarding amps — ever hear the story of how Phase Linear was started on a bet?

Valerie Curren

Do tell!

scott467

No, I have not heard about that.

cthulhu

Short version — a couple of electrical engineers/stereo guys were hanging out one day, complaining about the price of their hobby. One said to the other, “these prices are insane, I could make a 100W x 2 amplifier for $200.” He got the reply, “wanna bet?”

And, a few months later, the original Phase Linear product (a 100W x2 power amplifier) hit the market.

I believe that the engineer that designed the thing was Bob Carver, who soon went on to other things…. https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Bob_Carver

scott467

I have an old Carver TFM-55 Magnetic Field Amplifier and Carver Sonic Holography CT-3 pre-amp 👍

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cthulhu

Wow. I thought I lived in a junkyard.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

On the plus side (for him) he’s unlikely to lose one of those under a couch cushion, unlike raspberries.

scott467

“Wow. I thought I lived in a junkyard.”

______________

That junk is going for over $1,200 on eBay 😲

And that’s just for the amplifier!

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Valerie Curren

had to send a link to your sound porn comment to Hubby; hope he stops by 😉

ROBERT BAKER

OK what’s the payday on that collection? Just a ballpark will do.

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scott467

Going by memory:

Ulfbehrt speakers around $9k new, half for used

The flagship model No. 32 REL subwoofers pictured above are $10k each, and should be around half that much used once they’ve been around for a while. Shipping is a big problem though. They have to go on a pallet, and it’s expensive.

There are smaller models, like the REL Carbon Special (12″ woofer) that are designed for a stacked array, that are about 85 Lbs. each and around $4,300 new or around $3k each used.

Coda 16.0 amplifier around $15k new, around half for used if you can find one

Manley Snapper mono blocks around $10k new, about half for used

Shindo Masseto pre-amp I think is around $15k new, about half for used when you can find one

The Manley Steelhead phono-pre amp came out about 22 years ago and is still Manley’s top phono pre-amp, is about $10k now (new), or around $4,500 used

Oppo stopped making universal disc players (they play CD, SACD, DVD, DVD-A, blu-ray, and the last models added 4K UHD capability), and no other company stepped in to fill the gap of covering all of those formats and with the same connectivity options, so the final top-end model (Oppo UDP-205) has gone up in price from around $1,250 new (IIRC) to around $5k for a still new-in-the-box unit, or a little less for used.

But an earlier model like a Oppo BDP-105 will do fine for everything except 4K movie playback, and you can get a decent quality 4K blu-ray player for a few hundred dollars, the downside is that it takes up another spot in your equipment rack.

A used Oppo BDP-105 can be had for around $800.

So if all new components were purchased new, if I did the math correctly, it would be around $105k (including the Coda 16.0 and Shindo Masseto) or around $95k with the Manley tube mono blocks and Steelhead phono-pre. $60k of the cost is the six subs.

Used would be around half that much.

If you substituted REL Carbon Special subs for the top-of-the-line No. 32s above, and get them used for around $3k each, the total drops to around $32k.

And if you are patient, only adding individual components over the course of a year or so, when good used deals come available, you should be able to shave another 25% of that off, including not paying sales tax when buying used from other private owners, so maybe $24k would get you there.

Of course there are many other great components out there, including some ‘giant killers’ for less money that compete with far more expensive equipment.

The more one has available to spend, the easier it is to put together a great sounding system, but one of the fun challenges that is regularly discussed on the music forums is how to put together the best sounding system for under $10k, or under $5k, or under $3k, etc.

There is a lot of bang-for-the-buck available in used equipment for not too much money at the lower cost end of the spectrum, because there is so much competition.

So with a little research and guidance from people with experience on the forums, a really nice sounding system is very much doable without spending a lot of money 👍

Valerie Curren

how to put together the best sounding system for under $10k, or under $5k, or under $3k, etc.”

by all means pass such info along!!!

cthulhu

“Start with liquor boxes….”

Valerie Curren

Thx 🙂 We Already have a decent (for us) surround sound system & Hubby is big-time into sound, being a musician. I’m just (perpetually) curious & want to share the info with him in case he feels like tweaking anything 🙂

cthulhu

Once upon a time, I could go on and on about signal path and amplifier types, acoustics and resonances, and so on. Today, my advice would be to take everything to digital as quickly as possible, and not put it back to analog until you have to. Do all your EQ, mixing, and effects 100% digital. Master a CD without ever going analog.

Use the best A->D interfaces you can affordably get for your purposes. Once in the digital domain, you no longer have to worry about cables and power limits and cabinet shapes and rooms….until you let it back out.

Valerie Curren

Thx for your insights!

cthulhu

Once you can get things into a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation), you can put things anywhere in a surround mix, you can change the size and shape of the “hall” you recorded in (including famous ones, like those at Abbey Road), you can synchronize parts so that they not only “pluck” together, but their waveforms all come off the pluck positively sync’d….

Even the name-brand DAW software isn’t too horrible in price, but you can also get quite capable software for free ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardour_(software) ).

Some of the DAW plugins can be effects — like reverb — or entire instruments. And none of them degrade the sound, hiss, hum, roll-off, or go muddy…..unless intended.

Valerie Curren

Thx, this is useful if Hubby’s band moves into recording, which is still a ways off!

cthulhu

Why would you be looking at surround sound if it weren’t recorded? Wouldn’t you be more focused on concert sound (which is not the same)?

Valerie Curren

Well as I said we already Have surround sound & have had it for years. We use it for music AND movies. We haven’t done much with recording for some years now…

WSB

Buy wholesale.

Valerie Curren

or used, like through Craig’s List

WSB

This looks like my brother’s place. For decades. Also, Father’s theater.

WSB

I like the little blue guy there with the yellow teeth.

cthulhu

Heh. Such things are sometimes complete serendipity.

WSB

LOL!!!!!

cthulhu
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scott467

No release date yet, but Cool Hand Luke should be out on 4K UHD this year 👍 😁

kalbokalbs

Car Wash 🙂

Great movie.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump on schools!!! Sounds GREAT!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

QUESTIONS…..

RAC
RAC

Wonder if it was an attempt to discredit PV, either the Pfizer Teams organizational chart being hacked and altered, or pfizer themselves being in on it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

IMO it’s (1) Webb not knowing what he’s talking about, and (2) very likely somebody is using Webb to dump chaff.

cthulhu

AND logic!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I only had to listen to 30 seconds to know that Webb is not following the story correctly.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Webb’s blind spot is that he ONLY sees things from the viewpoint of his own long and convoluted theories, which are VALID but only part of the truth.

That image of the cylinder viewed from two directions? That’s Webb. He always sees things a certain way that nobody else does. All true, but he misses a lot.

Webb didn’t realize that this dude being a bit of a lightweight is exactly why he dumped this stuff – and he is NOT a whistleblower – he’s a chump who blabbed.

Webb didn’t see that this guy was talking about things he’s basically overheard, that are potential things going FORWARD – not stuff they’ve done, although you never know.

Nope. PV does different work from Webb. I’m good with what has been found. We got some loose lips letting us know what is being talked about in Pfizer, and it is enough to rain some government control on them, IMO.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Webb has low mainstream credibility, but he has higher credibility on our side. That said, a lot of people feel like he theories are spaghetti-like! 😉

Gail Combs

Webb is NOT credible…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He has been right about some GREAT stuff – and long before anybody else.

WSB

It seems very obvious to me tonight that the Project Veritas, Pelosi tapes are being smothered by a LOT of media, both local and national by the Memphis tapes. Why all happening on a Friday night?

cthulhu

To ask the question is to answer it.

WSB

Sublime, cthulhu.

Tired of seeing strings. Tried tonight to watch Jessie Watters, Tucker, local news for weather (could only STAND the weather…2 minutes), then had a great time watching ‘How America Works’ with Mike Rowe. Yes, best series in a long time! Better!

So…strings!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

RDS

Wolf Moon
Thank you, a terrific twitter thread.
One finds it interesting that the paper in frontiers.org appears to confirm that the Moderna COVID-19 “vaccine”, mRNA-1273, because of the very large load of spike protein per injection, creates the IgG4 class switch faster than the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 “vaccine”, BNT162b2. However, both “vaccines” eventually (the BNT162b2 apparently after repeated “booster shots”) eventually do real damage to the IgG3 “clear it out” immune cells.
However, the paper (likely due to the focus on the IgG3 / IgG4 class switch) does not discuss the fact that the AZD1222 (AstraZeneca, CoviShield) COVID-19 “vaccine” mentioned in said paper is formulated much like the Johnson & Johnson (Janssen) COVID-19 “vaccine” — with the corresponding potential for “vaccine”-induced thrombosis and thrombocytopenia syndrome.

WSB

Wolf, thank you for staying the course on this.

As my one virologist friend keeps repeating to me, “It was never a good idea to create a synthetic spike protein to enter the nucleus of every human cell.”

I will continually stand my ground about this. Malone knew what he was doing.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AAAAUUURRRGGGHHH! But she doesn’t understand! It’s not Malone! The latest paper PROVES IT. It’s not even the mRNA technology, apart from the protein it produces. And THAT is more BILL GATES and CHINA’S fault than anybody else.

It’s because of a PROTEIN. It’s because of a protein that has a very specific KEY that lets it into the nucleus. A key that was in the plans CHINA sent. THIS one spike protein. None of the other coronavirus spike proteins has the key. Which not only gets in the nucleus, but carts its own mRNA along with itself, after associating with the mRNA. THAT part is mind-blowing. That’s too smart by half. I’m not sure humans did that.

And I think that Bill Gates KNEW this. I think he KNEW that the spike would get into the nucleus.

This thing is a WEAPON that creates its own key and shopping cart for getting the weapon into the nucleus.

It’s really fucking ingenious, and I would suspect ALIENS even more than the Chinese, if I knew that they had dumped this stuff into the atmosphere, and it got into a bat cave somehow.

Is this chick friend of yours actually a virologist? Doesn’t she get it? I’m not a virologist and I get it. Why does she not understand? The whole advantage of using mRNA is that it doesn’t go into the nucleus – UNLESS IT’S SUBVERTED by another technology – which the spike protein output HAS! It’s born with a key to the nucleus! It’s the PROTEIN SEQUENCE – not the mRNA tech.

Show her THIS PAPER. Tell her to figure it out. Tell her – don’t just read the abstract – read the whole damn thing.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2023.1073789/full

The new research shows WHY it goes in the nucleus – and it’s NOT because of mRNA – it’s because of the SPIKE PROTEIN – which Malone tried to STOP.

What is her deal with blaming Malone? It’s like blaming Marie Curie for Hiroshima.

SOMEBODY wanted a key into the nucleus – a “hook” – a TRICK – a protein that could shepherd its own RNA into the nucleus. They then ABUSED Malone’s tech, and it ONLY got into the nucleus because of something ELSE.

It is freaking PROFOUND.

To me, this shows that it was a weapon. Malone discovered a basic technology. THIS used the Malone technology to create the weapon in vivo, plus other technology in the PLANS of the protein, to get access to the nucleus.

Somebody EVOLVED that spike protein to not only open the nucleus, but to carry its RNA in with it. That’s some BOLD stuff. And it was done secretly.

Something is going on here.

Blaming Malone is a DIVERSION – and that’s why they’re doing it. I think CIA knew what was happening here, and their boy Stew was used to stir up antipathy against Malone.

Yeah, the mRNA tech is probably “immature” as Malone says. But the nucleus stuff – THAT was designed into this spike protein, IMO.

The PLAN they followed is becoming clear. It’s SO SMART and SO EVIL.

Valerie Curren

This comment is so insightful that you should add it into Saturday’s conversation so that more will see it!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I really need to do a post!!!

cthulhu

It should be relatively straightforward to map CTL-ALT-I (or something) to where it hits the reply button, says, “I really need to do a post!!!”, and posts it.

Think of all the time you’d save!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, man. SIGH. Yeah.

cthulhu

To put this in perspective, we were all worried about your health not too long ago.

Be pickier about your overcommitments. We can handle it, and the world can wait. We don’t want you having a relapse.

Valerie Curren

Absolutely!!!

Valerie Curren

Awesome–Thank you!!!

WSB

Malone got all upset when they were all arguing about money and patents. We need to dive more.

I am responding after your next post, so let’s keep diving. TY, Wolf, will send this along.

And yes, a lab head for a HUGE pharma co., fired for not taking the shot.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sorry to get snippy, but the science blame needs to hit the real target – that being the people who thought up this weapon.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’ve put up a post about this all. You may like it.

WSB

Just read! I hope all are aware that I do not receive notifications of any responses. Not quite sure why, except I cannot have a million emails in my inbox. Therefore, I try not to comment too much.

Hugs and kisses, Wolf!

GA/FL

EU approves bugs in food….even pizza.

scott467

It will be interesting to see if the public is willing to put bugs in their mouths and eat them.

I can’t even begin to imagine that happening, but we’ll see.

Maybe I’m completely out of touch with the average human at this point.

Personally, I suspect cannibalism is an easier sell, but if people actually eat bugs, that will be an indication of just how far gone the patient really is.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I am sure the public is willing to eat bugs…provided they don’t know they’re eating bugs.

scott467

“I am sure the public is willing to eat bugs…provided they don’t know they’re eating bugs.”

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Well let’s think about that for a moment.

Companies list ingredients obsessively, and apparently a significant percentage of the population today is allergic to just about everything.

Hard to imagine that BUGS would be exempt from allergy considerations, let alone the psychological harm that would be done to people who found out after the fact that they’ve been fed BUGS by deception.

And the righteous retribution which should follow.

WSB

Bugs carry parasites. I had a parasite from Egypt. Sick with a102 fever for about 6 months.

Will hold out for stalking steak in my nearest farmer’s field.

Valerie Curren

There’s a Netflix show, The Great British Baking Show, & in one of the recent seasons one of the contestants made something like Cricket cookies with the full body of a cricket baked within. The middle aged female judge, Prue something, who is billed as “posh”, gladly ate the cookie & raved about it. It struck me as Extremely Bizarre. Yuck!

scott467

“We’re about to have mass produced insects put into our food.'”

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Need to know exactly which companies are putting bugs in food, and exactly what other (non-bug) food they make, because not only is cross-contamination possible, it’s certain and eventually it will be intentional.

Like crack dealers cutting their product with baby powder, substituting bugs for other ingredients will be a cost-saving measure.

So if any big name food producer adds bugs to even one product, that eliminates everything they sell as a consideration for me.

Same with restaurants.

If you sell cricket & cockroach burgers, I want nothing that comes out of your restaurant. It’s so disgusting, they should have better luck selling human excrement burgers.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That last culinary item should be reserved for those who voted for RINO McDaniel.

cthulhu

They probably had a shit-sandwich buffet in the lobby.

Gail Combs

https://www.publichealth.com.ng/dangers-of-eating-crickets/

Crickets carry parasites that will infect humans.

I can not copy and paste the section…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Why does that NOT surprise me?

singingsoul1

I think everyone needs Ivermectin after consuming Crickets  😂 

kalbokalbs

Yup. Was just about to post, folks really need a IVM stash. This spring, I’ll be increasing mine.

WSB

Indeed!

scott467

I was able to screen capture it before it grays out and asks me to disable my ad-blocker. The screen capture got all of it except one graphic in the middle:

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scott467

Well that’s not very useful… 😂

scott467

Trying again:

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scott467

From the article: “According to the North American Coalition for Insect Agriculture (NACIA)…”

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Well there’s an unbiased source.

Next up, the National Association of Hookers & Pimps (NAoH&P) will tell us that prostitution is good for the soul 👍

scott467

“…crickets as human food are high in proein and can be prepared by cooking or by being ground into flour. The flour becomes a high protein ingredient in various food such as tortlilla chips and protein bars.”

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And there you have it.

Cutting their flour like a drug dealer cuts his stash with some cheap ingredient.

They can grind up insects and put them in anything, and how will we ever know?

Thanks for today’s dose of psychological horror, globo-homos. I will of course make a note, and remember it at your sentencing hearing 👍

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Valerie Curren

I’m reading this section while simultaneously watching CSI Miami & the deceased had some specialty dish of Columbian ants in her stomach contents. A “high end dish”–talk about extremely gross 🙁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Huge news in COVID world.

Here is the paper.

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2023.1073789/full

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Abstract:

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes severe pathophysiology in vulnerable older populations and appears to be highly pathogenic and more transmissible than other coronaviruses. The spike (S) protein appears to be a major pathogenic factor that contributes to the unique pathogenesis of SARS-CoV-2. Although the S protein is a surface transmembrane type 1 glycoprotein, it has been predicted to be translocated into the nucleus due to the novel nuclear localization signal (NLS) “PRRARSV,” which is absent from the S protein of other coronaviruses. Indeed, S proteins translocate into the nucleus in SARS-CoV-2-infected cells. S mRNAs also translocate into the nucleus. S mRNA colocalizes with S protein, aiding the nuclear translocation of S mRNA. While nuclear translocation of nucleoprotein (N) has been shown in many coronaviruses, the nuclear translocation of both S mRNA and S protein reveals a novel feature of SARS-CoV-2.

NOTES (Wolf) – will refer to this as the Mehedi paper.

Nuclear translocation of spike mRNA and protein is a novel feature of SARS-CoV-2

Sarah Sattar1†, Juraj Kabat2†, Kailey Jerome1, Friederike Feldmann3, Kristina Bailey4 and Masfique Mehedi1*†

1 Department of Biomedical Sciences, University of North Dakota School of Medicine and Health Sciences, Grand Forks, ND, United States

2 Biological Imaging Section, Research Technology Branch, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD, United States

3 Division of Intramural Research, National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, National Institutes of Health, Hamilton, MT, United States

4 Department of Internal Medicine, Pulmonary, Critical Care, and Sleep and Allergy, University of Nebraska Medical Center, Omaha, NE, United States

Author contributions

MM conceived the project and designed all the experiments, analyzed (in silico) the viral genome and protein sequences, and prepared the figures and wrote and edited the manuscript. KB provided the primary cells. FF performed the viral infection work. KJ, SS, and MM performed all staining for detection. MM and SS generated the microscopic images. JK and MM processed and quantified images. All authors contributed to the article and approved the submitted version.

cthulhu

This struck me as the Nebraska, Montana, and North Dakota branches of the NIH not wanting to share the gallows with the East Coast branches.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, there may be something to that.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Would LOVE to hear Li-Meng Yan’s take on this!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gave her a tip!

RDS

Wolf Moon
Thank you so much for getting the Mehedi paper out into twitter world. IMO, it is huge on several fronts.
Questions:
One: Is the PRRARSV signal a result of the experiments at the Wuhan lab and the UNC lab in creating SARS-CoV-2?
Two: Since this signal is part of the original Wuhan Hu1 spike protein, does this mean that it also appears in all COVID-19 “vaccines” except for whole inactivated ones (like Covaxin)?
Three, assuming that Two is correct: Do the lipid nanoparticles used in the COVID-19 “vaccines” like BNT162b (Pfizer-BioNTech/COMIRNATY) and mRNA-1273 (Moderna) help in the spike-assisted mRNA translocation in “vaccinated” persons?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! Lots of big questions! I’m myself wondering if this both (1) indicts Bill Gates funding all those full spike protein vaccines, or (2) if this now offers a route to better vaccines that ARE actually safer than the disease, at a level where cost-benefit works, or if the RBD is so problematic that vaccines are simply not workable for this virus.

scott467

“or (2) if this now offers a route to better vaccines that ARE actually safer than the disease, at a level where cost-benefit works,”

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In the unlikely event that this is the case, who could we rely on or trust to make them?

It can’t be anyone involved in the current and ongoing genocide, so that would seem to mean creating a parallel ‘medical industrial complex’…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. One with OPEN COMMS that anybody in the world could watch on – say – Twitter or WordPress.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Frankly, the admission sounded pretty weak, but I’ll take Malhotra’s word for it.

kalbokalbs

Auditioning for Babylon Bee.

Valerie Curren

in Twit World replies

https://rumble.com/v22ijfs-lara-logan-and-sasha-latypova-on-dod-vaxx-coverup-w-fda-theater.html

Valerie Curren

another in replies

https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/13/archives/swine-flu-prograrm-is-halted-in-9-states-as-3-die-after-shots.html

pgroup2

We used to be able to think. Not so much any more.

scott467

The government did not used to be openly engaged in unrestricted warfare against their own domestic population.

For the very good reason that in any sane world, if any government did something like that, that government would be gone in a matter of days, and nobody would even dream to quibble over words like ‘force’.

But now we do the frog on slow boil approach, where we analyze and document every 1/100th of degree of increase in heat, where we are nearly hyper aware of what is being done to us, that we are being murdered little by little, day by day — but the one thing we don’t seem willing to do, is to get out of the pot.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – the scarecrows are getting BRAINS!!!

cthulhu

If only we could bill back the national monies already spent to the self-serving political actors who authorized the expenditures….

WSB

Maybe write a stern letter to Franklin Templeton. They are one of the worst offenders.

Fabulous money launderers from Ukraine.

scott467

I would like to welcome RAND to the end of the thought process.

Glad you could make it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!!

cthulhu

More info from Gonzalo Lira —

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Friday, January 27, 2023

✟ ann

“…With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.” 

Mark 10:27 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!!!

duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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scott467

I do what I can to increase carbon levels, in direct response to the buffoonery of pagan climate worship.

phoenixrising37

via https://t.me/s/sv_lavrov

Estonian Minister of Defense Hanno Pevkur believes that the developed rules of international war cannot be used in the case of the Ukrainian scenario. According to him: quote “The impossibility of using weapons prohibited by the international convention significantly limits the capabilities of the Ukrainian army . We believe that the UN General Assembly, in particular for Ukraine , should review the rules of war and repeal the conventions prohibiting the use of certain types of ammunition, thanks to which the Ukrainian side will be able to change its position at the front.” In particular, the politician focused on the possibility of Ukraine usingcluster munitions, anti-personnel mines, expansive cartridges (which tend to detonate or deform when hit), napalm.

“Estonia is resolutely ready to provide Ukraine with German-made artillery cluster munitions with a caliber of 155 millimeters. However, in order to carry out the transfer procedure, we need the appropriate permission from Berlin, about which we have already sent a request. If the UN headquarters creates a more simplified procedure for the use by the Ukrainian side and the transfer of such weapons, then most countries that have them in stock will provide them to Ukraine as soon as possible, while getting rid of them, ” Pevkur said.

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I am speechless …

ROBERT BAKER

A new organization in New York apparently; the UNAR, the United Nations Against Russia.

scott467

“Estonia is resolutely ready to provide Ukraine with German-made artillery cluster munitions with a caliber of 155 millimeters.

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Hopefully Estonia is likewise resolutely ready to have their capital destroyed in a Russian missile attack.

scott467

“Estonian Minister of Defense Hanno Pevkur believes that the developed rules of international war cannot be used in the case of the Ukrainian scenario.”

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It’s always amusing to hear people like this talk about the ‘rules’ of something (i.e., war) that occurs when the advocates of war have ignored all ‘rules’ and the party they have targeted has no other recourse but to defend itself at any cost.

Especially when the guilty party (U.S. / NATO / Europe) is the one pretending to be all about the ‘rules’.

Hopefully Russia moves on to 6th generation warfare quickly.

6th generation warfare should be the acknowledgment that it is grotesquely inefficient and wasteful of resources and human lives for a nation state to engage in actions against innocent civilian populations, when they can just terminate the insane leadership that is relentlessly pushing for war.

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Gail Combs

Think of that NICE OPEN BORDER…..

phoenixrising37

via https://t.me/s/sv_lavrov

“Crimea is not Ukrainian territory, Crimea is Russian territory. It was, is and will be”

Gathered the main thing from the statement of the official representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry Zakharova:

– There has been no talk of any defense of Ukraine for a long time, Kiev and the West are ready for anything to inflict maximum damage Russia

– Any Western weaponry that ends up in Ukraine becomes a legitimate target for the Russian Armed Forces.

– Ukraine is a laundry for the Collective West to withdraw resources and redirect money from accounts to accounts

– Zelensky, apparently, decided that corruption in Ukraine should be destroyed along with Ukraine.

barkerjim

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pgroup2

That’s racist.

Valerie Curren

LOL!

WSB

Black.

TheseTruths

Reminds me of Charlie Chaplin eating his shoe in The Gold Rush.

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phoenixrising37

Larry Johnson … on Jewish support of Ukrainian Nazis

WHILE THE AUSCHWITZ MUSEUM REVEALS ITSELF AS CLASSLESS INGRATES, THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION DOUBLES DOWN ON CONFRONTATION WITH RUSSIA
26 January 2023 by Larry Johnson 115 Comments

When I heard the initial report that the Auschwitz Museum in Poland banned Russia from participating in the 78th anniversary of the camp’s liberation by Soviet troops, it was presented as a spiteful act on the part of the descendants of the Jews who survived the Holocaust. But then I read the story:

“Given the aggression against a free and independent Ukraine, representatives of the Russian Federation have not been invited to attend this year’s commemoration,” Piotr Sawicki, spokesman for the museum at the site of the former camp, told AFP.

Friday is the 78th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp built by Nazi Germany in occupied Poland — a date that has become Holocaust Memorial Day.

Until now, Russia has always taken part in the commemoration held every year on January 27, with its delegate speaking at the main ceremony.

Museum director Piotr Cywinski said it was obvious that he could “sign no letter to the Russian ambassador having an inviting tone” in the current context.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/auschwitz-museum-russia-not-invited-to-event-marking-camps-liberation-by-red-army/

Piotr Sawicki is a Polack. Probably Catholic. And has never been a fan of acknowledging what the Russian troops did in January 1945 because the vast majority of inmates at Birkenau and Auschwitz were Jewish, not Polish. Polish animus towards Russia goes back centuries and the leaders of the Auschwitz Museum used Russia’s invasion of Ukraine as a timely pretext to exclude Russia from the ceremony tomorrow (January 27).

I saw this first hand when I visited Auschwitz/Birkenau in 2014. It is moving and disturbing. Our guide was a prickly Pole who went out of his way to credit Russia with any positive role in liberating the survivors of this death factory. When I tried to question him about this he became quite defensive and insisted the Polish people had suffered worse, both at the hands of the Nazis and the Soviets. Even after 70 years, history remains a vibrant, poisonous memory for some, and not in a good way.

But there is a sad and sickening footnote regarding Jewish support for Ukraine. I have some friends and acquaintances who are the children of Holocaust survivors and are fervent supporters of Ukraine. When I attempt to explain the strong undercurrent of Nazi ideology that infests the Ukrainian Government and military, I have been verbally attacked. Here is one example:

Larry. I’m shocked that you would make such insulting McCarthy “guilt by association” and come across as a Russian shill. I support the Ukranian people, not some Nazi from past decades. You also show an ignorance of Ukrainian history and Stalin’s mass starvation campaign if you don’t understand why a 1940’s and 40’s person might be regarded as a nationalist. The enemy of my enemy is my friend syndrome.  

The Link does not open but I find it incredible that you seem obsessed by a figure from the 1930’s and 40’s but downplay the Russian nazi-like attacks on Ukrainian civilians and their terrorist type tactics and torture in villages and towns they occupies? against

Do you really believe that Russian planes, missiles, drones and artillery have not been the ones attacking Ukrainian cities, even those far away from the front? Egad, what has happened to your sense of perspective…and decency.

Nothing, Nothing justifies Putin’s invasion of Ukraine , the attacks by Russian soldiers on civilians when they occupied parts of Ukraine, and the continued shelling on civilians when they and the continued missile attacks on cities and towns far from the battle field.  As for your claims that the Russians are winning, such a win they could do without. Their army was shown to be incompetent and brutal, they lost most of the territory they initially captured, tens of thousands educated Russians fled the country, they had to call on the Wagner forces and convicts to shore up the army. Putin unified NATO, despite his patsy’s Trump’s efforts to undermine the alliance and touched off sanctions that are hurting the Russian economy.

There is no reasoning with these people. The only thing that will convince my former friend that he swallowed some major propaganda is when Ukraine defeated by Russia and the pernicious Nazi supporters removed from the public discourse.

On to another topic — Did you hear what Victoria Nuland said today? Before delving into her remarks, I was shocked by her appearance. Yes, I am fat shaming. Here she is 8 years ago:

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Time has not been kind to Ms. Nuland. She is looking more like a particularly corpulent Star Wars character:

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The Queen of the neo-cons clearly signaled today that the Biden Administration is not interested in any negotiations unless Russia surrenders:

Victoria Nuland, the US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs, believes that a possible condition for easing some of the sanctions implemented against Russia is the withdrawal of troops from all of Ukraine and an agreement to negotiate seriously.

“In the context of Russia’s decision to negotiate seriously and withdraw its troops from Ukraine and return territories, I would certainly support that (easing of sanctions). I think the US Secretary of State, Blinken, would do the same,” she said.

https://news.yahoo.com/nuland-sanctions-against-russian-federation-174153580.html

Isn’t that swell of her. Sure we will ease some sanctions once Russia vacates the formerly Ukrainian territories that have voted to unite with Russia. God almighty. That is a sweet deal that Vladimir Putin will find irresistible. Right? Ridiculous.

RDS

IMO, Ms. Nuland was very likely “vaccinated and boosted” and — voila! — “premature aging” / “progerin – like effects” a la Walter Chesnut’s theory.

phoenixrising37

I seriously doubt Nuland was vaccinated … she knew/knows the purpose of the vaccines … and getting fat has little to do with aging. She’s a tool of the Cabal,,, she and her hubby, Kagan.

Comment lifted from Larry’s blog:

“There is no reasoning with these people”. How true. Hannah Arendt in her writings on the banality of evil defined evil as failure to think.“The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.” So it is that “these people” are Little Eichmanns. They believe what they have been taught to believe by others without ever questioning. And so are complicit in the greatest crimes. The truth (to them) is a threat.

kalbokalbs

No. They ARE EVIL. Power. Money. Corrupts.

kalbokalbs

Nuland has always been hideous, IMO.

But then, so is Shaggy, Richard (HHS or whatever farce department he is in), Austin, Buttplug, Jill…

USG will run push the Ukraine money laundering scheme so long as Uniparty allows.

Dunno if we’ll avoid WW III. If we do, it’ll only be, because Russia restrains themselves.

nikkichico7

Egads … 😳😖🤚‼️‼️‼️‼️

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WSB

White wine, cheese, and a full three meals a day…I stopped the three full meals a day and lost weight.

smiley2

This Time It’s Different

article link…

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/this-time-its-different/

Jan 26

we’re just not prepared…this time…

and we are, among other things, becoming desperate.

good opinion piece.

kalbokalbs

Excellent article.

scott467

Article sub-title: “Neither we nor our allies are prepared to fight all-out war with Russia, regionally or globally.”

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That’s the whole point, isn’t it?

The last thing the leaders of the Western nations want is to win the war they’re trying to create.

It’s antithetical to everything they believe or want to accomplish.

1) they openly advocate for eugenics and depopulation

2) the justification for #1 is the pagan fantasy of globull warming

3) they unleashed a bio-weapon on the entire planet accomplish #1

4) they followed up with removing or making it difficult to obtain therapeutic treatments to survive the bio-weapon

5) a new bio-weapon, which they called a ‘vaccine’, was unleashed to finish off whoever survived the original bio-weapon deployment

Given the above, why would any leader in the West have any intention of ‘winning’ any war, when their entire religion is based on depopulating the earth to save the planet?

If they can provoke Russia and china to turn North America and Europe into smoking radioactive ruins, that’s a win-win for the Jonestown Climate Cult.

Aubergine

My Cuba Libre story;

I used to work in South Florida, and I knew a lot of Cubans. And man, did they hate Castro!

I had never had a Cuba Libre, and I decided that I wouldn’t, until the day Castro died. Fast forward twenty years…

Castro finally bit the dust. Since I never drink in a bar, I called my daughter to go with me to a local watering hole that day. I told her the story about waiting for a Cuba Libre until Castro died. She said “Mom, that’s stupid, please don’t.” She’s a real “normie,” that one.

We sat down at the bar, and when the bartender came over, I ordered the drink. The bartender grinned at me, and said “he finally died.”

The look on my daughter’s face was absolutely priceless. And that drink was made strong! It’s the only Cuba Libre I’ve ever had.

Of course, Cuba was not “liberated” by the death of that bastard. But I kept my vow, and I’ll have another Cuba Libre someday, I hope.

Valerie Curren

That brings tears to my eyes…

Yearning to breathe (AND live) FREE!!!

michaelh

Good article on the DOJ/FBI election interference and abusing classified documents to gain leverage over candidates – the underlying construct that’s easy to miss by all the back and forth.

Does not mention Pence, but if the DOJ/FBI is covering it’s bases for leverage in 2024, then the Pence business suddenly makes a lot of sense.

Capturing the Presidency Without a Vote
The intelligence community must remain subordinate to our elected officials or we no longer have a functioning democracy. The intelligence community hates this. 

https://amgreatness.com/2023/01/26/capturing-the-presidency-without-a-vote/

phoenixrising37

Soviet soldiers open the gates of the Auschwitz concentration camp, freeing the prisoners. January 27, 1945⁠⁠

Only the truth, nothing but the truth.

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Valerie Curren

but, but, but aka BHO’s uncle was there too! 😉 it Has to be true ’cause He said so!

kalbokalbs

Paging Aubergine, and whoever may have laying hens, for comment.

Month or two ago, Aubergine mentioned, egg production slows in winter. Wondering how production is going, this winter Vs previous winters.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

You’re supposed to put lights in with them, they need 14 hours in winter. There’s still too many in comments who did that still not getting eggs. When they switched food problem resolved.

kalbokalbs

Yea, knew about the lights.

The food angle was my focus. Seems Tractor Supply and the feed vendor have some splaining to do.

Aubergine

We light ours, and we use local feed. This winter they stopped laying altogether. This leads me to wonder if this is an ingredient problem, not a specific feed problem.

Our local feed mill uses ingredients from all over the U.S. If they got a bad batch of something that the big companies also got, that would cause it.

My chickens have always laid in winter. Fewer eggs, but never none.

kalbokalbs

Thanks for feedback.

Aubergine

Anytime.

I went down and talked to my friend at the feed store. They have had many people calling and inquiring about their chicken feed formulation. They’ve also had people asking about goat feed, which is what some people have been giving their chickens to get them laying again.

I warned her they will probably need to up production if possible, as they are probably going to get slammed with chicken feed customers soon.

scott467

“My chickens have always laid in winter. Fewer eggs, but never none.”

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I wonder what the odds are that it’s just a coincidence that everybody’s chickens stopped laying eggs, got hit with a bad case of ‘Stopped Suddenly Syndrome‘ at the same time, as opposed to enemy action.

Just unreal.

Aubergine

The odds are astronomical. It just doesn’t happen.

It’s very weird. I really think it must be some ingredient, as I use local feed.

scott467

You’d think Tractor Supply would want to get out in front of that company-ending story.

If it’s true, they might as well not bother to open on Monday.

RF121




phoenixrising37

A Dollar Collapse Is Now In Motion, Saudi Arabia Signals The End Of ‘Petro’ Status
All the while the mainstream media and government economists will say they have “no idea” why inflation is so persistent, and that “nobody could have seen this coming.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

👀 👀
BOLO
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Pelosi body cam footage released at noon eastern, 2ish minutes long. Waiting for news orgs to publish.

WOAH!!!

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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kalbokalbs

Tryst interrupted.

WSB

A shirt, underwear and a drink?

kalbokalbs

Limited Edition. Only what they can splain away AND line up with narrative.

mollypitcher5

Yeah, where’s the rest of it ?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Dude was pretty quick and radical with that hammer.

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mollypitcher5

You know how the scary pohleece make criminals so afraid they act out…/s

kalbokalbs

Yup.

Wonder what hammer boy was promised, AND Paulie reneged.

As Molly posted, where’s the rest of the video AND other videos.

mollypitcher5

I’d also like to know how hammer boy got to Pelosi house..where’s his car or did Paulie bring him or someone else ?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Drugged out veggie freaks are the norm on the streets of San Fran.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

That’s it, short and sweet. We’re missing what happened prior, which is where the Dem Big Lie lies.

DDP was at the door with Paulie P, NOT in bedroom. No walking down a hall. Both had clothes on. The bottoms on both men could be considered underwear? Paulie could’ve lied to him and told him Nasty was at the door, and DDP attacked after seeing it was PoPo instead. Could be argued Paulie who didn’t want to let go of that cocktail was held hostage by a whacko. 😂 Not buying DDP was MAGA for one second.

Why did they supress this??

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mollypitcher5

Maybe..Paul didn’t rush to safety out the door, he looked somewhat drunk and didn’t seem very articulate…makes it appear to be some kind of arrangement gone wrong so they held off until they could seed the narrative and release only what they had to??

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

He’s supposedly HIGH on drugs.

Fox news has video of him rummaging in trash, smashing in the back door w/a hammer. Saw onscreen, waiting for them to post.

Here’s a still.

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mollypitcher5

Saw the vid posted below…I was all wrong about the break-in

RF121

Break in says 5:04 am on the camera. Cops video shows 9:30 I think but it is darkout. How does that work?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

I don’t think it’s DDP on the break in footage. I don’t even think that’s the Pelosi residence, this video is BS!!

AND IIRC, the Pelosi’s have a large back patio. No trash dump right outside the back door.

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Wish I was on TW, I’d be calling out Fox for lying. Square window vs Round windows, shuurreee……

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TheseTruths

Why did they supress this??

If it were my family, it would be for the sake of privacy. I would not want my spouse/father/family member shown in such a vulnerable situation, while having a crime perpetrated on them. It’s a dangerous and traumatic event. I also would not want my home to be shown to the public.

gil00

Too high profile and at that point not covered by an expectation of privacy and the public is paying for the assistance.

mollypitcher5

It does inspire some questions. Why wouldn’t Pelosi’s home be wired to the max for intruder entry ?
On the heels of the curious wee hour DUI traffic stop, anything involving Paul P would generate theories.

gil00

Or were different levels of security used for home and away. Or, if pp was drunk and left them off.
I agree.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Everyone already knows where they live, not much of inside was shown.

It’s so easy for 1 or more to get details wrong, which then spreads on the socials like wildfire, leading to all the nasty rumors. In this age of distrust, the sooner you get the facts out the better.

After seeing this evidence, reasonable people now believe he was attacked. Those who don’t, well…..

kalbokalbs

I think we’ve always known, at least believed, Paulie was attacked, with a hammer.

The Rest Of The Story, IS, AND REMAINS the question.

  • I am OK with being unreasonable.
bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

😁

kalbokalbs

Why did they supress this?? Piglosi Crime Family.

^^^ In my world, they do not warrant the benefit of the doubt.

Nor would them bastards yield me the benefit of the doubt.

gil00

Zero, i mean zero, reason to force a court order on this.
Paul holding a drink in his underwear though. At that time i dont remember the time between the home entry and the door. Besides, if it was a concern, pp wouldve made a beeline to the cops and said help. He didnt.
Theres more to it.

TheseTruths

pp wouldve made a beeline to the cops and said help.

Did you hear the 911 call? Pelosi was under the control of DePape.

gil00

Yes. i dont know what the 911 operator said to the officer who took the call. A good operator should have relayed everything, and the officer should have been able to match name and address. 2+2 =high alert.

kalbokalbs

Who called 911? Paulie? While under control of DePape?

Nothing makes sense in a normal world.

TheseTruths

At the beginning of the call, the operator asks the usual questions, and Pelosi says he guesses he called by mistake. So he managed to get hold of 911 and, while DePape was listening, made it sound like it was a mistake and says things that will appease DePape while letting the operator know that he needs help without directly saying it.

TheseTruths

The bottoms on both men could be considered underwear?

I believe DePape is wearing shorts, not underwear. He is fully clothed in shoes, socks, sweatshirt, shorts — all outer clothing. Pelosi can be expected to be in underwear since he was asleep in his house.

General thoughts not aimed at you:
It’s puzzling why people are so intent on making this a homosexual tryst. I’ve never seen any signs that Pelosi leans that way. It’s possible he is really just the victim of a crime that was committed because of whom he is married to. If that is the case, it needs to be acknowledged. The truth matters. If it is found that we are not being given the complete story, that matters too. But the 911 call bears out Pelosi’s story and shows he was under the control of DePape.

I’m also seeing references to Pelosi holding “a cocktail.” How do we know that? It could be a glass of water. And in one of the blurred photos, it looks like it could be a can of something like soda or beer.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

In the body cam when he’s on the ground, DDP shorts look like they could be underwear. That’s when I wrote the above. Upon looking at the body cam footage again, when standing up, they look like jean shorts.

After seeing body cam footage and listening to 911 call, I believe Paulie is a victim here.

I also believe the Fox window smashing video is not DDP and NOT at Pelosi’s house.

San Fran is known for gays. Could be why they attribute that to Paulie. If the footage and call would have been released immediately, a lot of the slander/suspicions could’ve been avoided.

TheseTruths

I also believe the Fox window smashing video is not DDP and NOT at Pelosi’s house.

Interesting, and that will be revealed in time.

Yes, they could have avoided a lot of this speculation by releasing the video footage and call earlier!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And why do that?

This way all the the wild speculation that got engaged in makes us look foolish.

TheseTruths

Yes, unfortunately. I keep writing things and deleting them, so I’ll just leave it at that. 😅

cthulhu

But they wouldn’t have had enough time to gin it up and edit it….

para59r

Hammer guy says “…, just getting my girlfriend”. At least that’s what I’m hearing. So assumes there had been an another person there and Hammer guy was what…pimp?”
Also Pelosi is holding what a can of beer or is that a glass? Hard to see with the reflections.

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para59r

So after watching the new additions, now assumes “the girl friend” was Nancy.

TheseTruths

TheseTruths

Paul Pelosi’s 911 call:

mollypitcher5

Wow, color me wrong on that…I always thought he was invited in and the window broken from inside

TheseTruths

A lot of people were wrong about a lot of things. Pelosi was clearly under the control of the guy. And Pelosi didn’t say the guy was his friend; he said that DePape said he was a friend. And you can hear DePape say that on the recording.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Yea, Paulie was trying to remain calm, lucky he survived. Dude was high, holding him hostage. The body cam and 911 call make it believable.

HOWEVER, I have problems with this break in video. DDP Shorts are a lot lighter. AND In body cam DDP looks a lot fatter than this guy.

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gil00

The cop initially wasnt prepared and too slow to react. The minute pp opened the door, they were struggling and the cop didnt process it fast enough.

RF121

Always easy to call when you are not the one there and doing the Monday morning quarterbacking.

gil00

Family of law enforcement and yes, i am able to see some response issues. It is not the cop’s fault there that op was hit. It was good that the other officers were not all at the door but the minute he saw the hammer and that both were holding it and dt the circumstances and the address, he should have told the guy to drop it and been ready.

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RF121

Time on the video cameras is off and makes no sense.

nikkichico7

Thanks … 🙂🤚🇺🇸❤️🇺🇸 …

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

RNC vote should be going down any minute.

barkerjim
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well that’s a head smacker…as in “why didn’t I think of this?” for a lot of people I’m sure. It’s well known that turbulence–which causes noise and wastes energy–comes off wing and propellor tips, i.e. the end points, so this guy decided to eliminate the endpoints on propellors.

The downside is they are more expensive, but apparently fuel savings pays it back.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Makes me wonder if the military has had these for a while, or if EVERYBODY was unaware.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The Navy, I could see that. They’d love nothing better than to make the subs quieter, and who can see them?

No way the other services do, props are too visible.

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RF121

Some props are classified so when they go to dry dock they are covered up. So it is possible they have been in use. But most are of a variable pitch design so the blades can rotate. Then you can keep the engine RPM’s constant and just play with the pitch. That helps with the noise suppression.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m thinking more than likely this is a genuine innovation no one had. But…that’s gut feel and worth exactly what you paid for it.

scott467

DARPA is gonna be so mad they didn’t think of this.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Nominated, not won…..yet.

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phoenixrising37

Yeaayyy!

pgroup2

Mike needs one of his pillows to cry in.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

pgroup2

In about two more years, maybe.  😆 

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

TheseTruths

Dr. Malone:

Regarding Pfizer Executive Dr. Walker. The fact that Pfizer has let this play out for 48 hours and has not said or written anything is damming in of itself.

This! I’ve been wondering why the guy was at work the next day and why Pfizer has not made a statement. It’s as if they know they can get away with anything.

pgroup2

No. Pfizer is going to try to blame it on the blabbermouth being queer. Or something that can show that his remarks were not what your lying eyes saw.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They’re definitely coordinating a defense and acting through indirect channels.

TheseTruths

Pfizer is trying to blame it on the blabbermouth being queer.

Well that’s not very politically correct! 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Blaming his G while virtue-signaling to LGBT is an art, but I’m sure Pfizer can do it!

scott467

“No. Pfizer is trying to blame it on the blabbermouth being queer.”

_____________

He was so gay that the truth slipped out?

That’s uh, very creative 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!!  😂  😆  😅 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

scott467

This is Jordon Trishton Walker’s big opportunity.

In the Alice in Wonderland world we live in now, he should be at Pfizer HQ demanding to be made at least a VP of the company, with a several million dollar bonus, to buy his silence from this point forward.

TradeBait2

Giving a follow-up report on the 40 year old lady who committed suicide in our community that left a disabled Vet husband and 3 year old son. She did die by hanging as reported and everything I initially heard and understood was true. No note or communication prior to the act was ever noted. Sadie mentioned to look at anti-depression meds as a potential cause in addition to the jabs that we know she did.

Bingo.

A few weeks before she did the act, the doctor had increased the dosage as her depression was worsening per a recent conversation my wife had with her mom. From their discussion we learned more.

The couple had recently taken in three other children of a sibling of her husband to raise. The marital relationship had become strained. She simply lost her mind. She obviously did not consider the effect this would have on her son, the handicapped children she taught, her mother and family, her friends – which were many, etc. She was not taking care of herself and her husband did not help it. He had.to know she was already on the meds, but he suffers from PTSD from the Gulf War. Just a very sad situation.

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TheseTruths

Very sad. I appreciate the update. It looks as if everything escalated, including her medication dosage. And with all the stress people in situations like that are under, they don’t have time to question the doctor’s orders and research what the drugs will do. 🙏

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Antidepressants are a real crapshoot. Increasing the dose is sometimes absolutely necessary to make them work – but the outcome can go either way.

The fact that she killed herself could be from the drug NOT working enough, or from the side effects, or both.

She was clearly in a bad situation. Three kids, not her own, suddenly added to her load, while depressed, with a husband with problems – she was dealt a very bad hand.

TradeBait2

Just no warning. They still don’t understand. She seemed happy and had so many friends and family members involved in their lives. Who goes to a party for their 3 year old son with all of her family and friends and has a good time, then goes home and finds a place to hang herself? Really strange even with the med/jabs issue.

pgroup2

This presents an opportunity for the surviving family members to re-arrange their relationships to each other. You might be surprised at the beauty that can come from all of them competing to be the most generous helper of them all.

TradeBait2

That is exactly what is happening so far. They held a memorial recently and the outpouring of love and caring was inspiring. The family and inner circle of friends have stayed focused on all of the wonderful things she did for others and love they had for each other.

RDS

TradeBait2
How awful. For all involved. Jabs, then anti-depressants…

TradeBait2

The combo was lethal IMO.

scott467

“He had.to know she was already on the meds, but he suffers from PTSD from the Gulf War.”

_____________

I hope he has plenty of help, because the stress must be to the Moon right now.

And I hope the children are not in danger due to the surviving spouse’s mental health, which has certainly taken about as serious of a blow as one could take.

TradeBait2

Valid concern IMO, but appears to be addressed for now. Another family member took the sibling’s kids and her mom is helping with the son a lot. They are all feeling their way through the mess of this.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

RINO McDaniel re-elected RNC Chair.

BOO!!!!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Oh FFS, the INSANITY!! 🤬🤬🤬

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m not sure if I’ve ever adequately explained what I think about RINOs in any of my Saturday dailies.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

One can never complain about RINOs enough!!!

ROBERT BAKER

Will we hear the explanation tomorrow?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Why no, no I don’t think you ever have.🙃🙃🙃 Maybe you could enlighten us tomorrow?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And here I thought I was done with it other than the precious metal prices.

Oh well. A nice cathartic rant will be good for my blood pressure.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

With a bacon chaser?? 🥓😜

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In this case I might even need to crack some eggs, at several thousand dollars (or whatever the latest price is) a pop.

TheseTruths

No, it could be much clearer. 😎

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Thank you for truthful words; I’ve always suspected I lacked clarity (especially when trying to explain science). 😀

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The science is fine, but RINOs need more razors. You have been far too soft on these evil traitors.

TheseTruths

No, you’re good on the science. It’s just hard to take people who haven’t studied it at the college level (or who did and forgot what happened years ago) and get them up to speed in a few articles. But I think you do a good job of distilling it down as much as possible.

TradeBait2

Please try. I enjoy the rants.

singingsoul1

Agree  😅 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

FOOKIN HAIL.

holly08

Gail Combs

It is a darn good thing it is a weekend because I have a couple days to cool off before I get on the phone to the NC RNC….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The party does not represent the people. EVIL!!!

singingsoul1

Maybe we should take them at their word and no more donations ?
No more phone calling for them
No more knocking on doors?
I they tell us we are low IQ but those bozos who voted could not even come to 100IQ.
Let show them how they can get along without MAGA .
Did I say I am angry  😂 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No you didn’t. 😀

singingsoul1

🙂

Gail Combs

That is EXACTLY what I am planing on saying on Monday.

Of Course they DON’T GIVE A SHIT because they are a junior partner of the COMMIES.

I sure hope who ever I talk to is double vaxxed and boosted…. SNARL….

singingsoul1

Good luck 🙂

cthulhu

Well, that sucketh mucheth.

scott467

“Well, that sucketh mucheth.”

_________

We should have expected nothing else.

We the People have no part or say in what is being done to us.

Zero.

Until we start treating these criminals like the rapists and murderers they are.

pgroup2

Big money stays away. Should make for a fun show.

Winning elections? Don’t make me laugh.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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@JackPosobiec
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People have begun deleting their WinRed accounts after news of Ronna McDaniel being re-elected by the RNC members

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Accurately named, WinRed was…

By the OLD definition of Red.

Great for the fucking commies!

singingsoul1

Good

RDS

Apparently one RNC member said something to the effect that “the little donors aren’t voting today.” The Charlie Kirk Twitter feed has some stuff on the vote.

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scott467

😂🤣😂

Clearly the fix wasn’t in 🤣🤣🤣

They’re not even trying to hide it anymore

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. The UniParty ain’t gonna let Trump OR DeSantis win this time.

nikkichico7

There’s a tv show called “the good place” that people go to when they die, … it’s not heaven but a stop to become good so you can go to heaven. Swear words don’t work their so when you say *hit it come out as “shirt” …

shirt shirt shirt shirt shirt .. and 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢

Gail Combs

I use Schiff.

nikkichico7

I like yours much better …. Schiff 💩💩💩 💩👍‼️😜😎🤚❤️

singingsoul1

I am waiting for the RNC to fund raise on McDaniel’s reelection. I am practicing the F-word. My husbands eyeballs almost fell out. He will be running to the phone I know  😳 

kalbokalbs

Sitting on a scathing email, to NV GOP/RNC shit heads. Waiting a bit, to see if I will temper it, slightly.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As far as I am concerned you should *increase* the blast effect.

TradeBait2

Another local human interest story to report. So many of these do not turn out well.

A neighbor couple who live 4 homes down from us had one of their three grandchildren they have custody of run away from home with three friends. Two boys and two girls with the boys 16 years old and the girls 14 years old. Our neighbor’s child was one of the girls. Their plan was to go to Florida.

When the granddaughter did not come home after school, they panicked and started searching and calling before all the parents involved figured it out. But the kids would not respond to calls, so they did not know where they were. This is when the find a friend app is your friend. The kids had removed their parents from the app, but one of the boy’s had not removed a friend from his. Our neighbor happened to call that friend and he jumped all over it because he had been worried sick about them. They were then able to give their location to the local law enforcement who contacted their counterparts in GA near the car’s location. The authorities put out the information and within a couple hours they were found. Our neighbor hopped in her car with one of the other mothers and hit the road to GA to retriever their children. She hauled her to the hospital to be checked out for assault to make sure. Nothing had happened, fortunately.

Will be interesting to see what punishment is coming. Her grandfather is a friend and a disciplinarian. Just glad all of them are safe and back home.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

So SAD.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

OOPS TB2, This comment meant for the lady that took her life.

Glad the kids were returned safe.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Those girls were days away from becoming prostitutes, drugged out, under gun-toting pimps, and they had NO idea.

TradeBait2

That was EXACTLY the grandparent”s fear. They have the grandkids because their mother died of a drug overdose and their father, the son, was thrown in the slammer for dealing. He is out and better now, but incapable of taking care of them. Their granddaughter started hanging out with the wrong kids at school and was a target.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

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Yeah, if it gets cold enough, torpid iguanas might fall out of trees and give some guy or gal a concussion.

nikkichico7

Lizards make it hard to walk, if it’s windy they wind up all over you …. No stompy feet though, don’t squish the lizards ..

Gail Combs

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Cold weather could boost python hunt in Florida
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…..With Florida already on track to break its previous python hunt record, now may be the perfect time to deploy your stuffed coyote as snake bait. Forecasts call for perfect snake hunting conditions Saturday, as predawn temps dip into the uppers 40s in the Glades followed by a bright, sunny morning. Cool temperatures are also expected during the hunt’s final two weeks. So if they don’t stumble across a snake coiled around a coyote — insert dubious viral photo here — hunters participating in the state’s 2016 Python Challenge should do just fine without doctoring nature. “Cold, sunny days are ideal,” said Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission spokeswoman Carli Segelson. As of Thursday, 66 Burmese pythons had been bagged, just two shy of the 2013 total….

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

kalbokalbs

#WalkAwayFromRepublican/GOP/RNC.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Unfortunately we have a 2 party system. So what can we do? Contact your State RNC reps and complain. Just like McCarthy, Keep the pressure on Ronna. Find and back America First MAGA candidates. Donate to the candidates ONLY, not RNC or WinRed. Winners never ever ever quit, give up, or back down!!

Gail Combs

EXACTLY not a RED CENT TO WINRED or Ronna the BITCH.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I am. Not one fucking penny, even if Trump begs.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It looks like I’ll be having to contact Boebert to figure out how to donate without so much as a mill of it going elsewhere.

ROBERT BAKER

Donate your time (if you have any) to her campaign. That may be the most efficient way to help her.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WinRed makes it easy, but not a penny for Ronna’s plan to stop Trump.

singingsoul1

Amen

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singingsoul1

Well Charlie the money train stopped at least in this house.

WSB

Charlie is part of the beggars looking for the money train.

singingsoul1

Yes looks like it.

TradeBait2

One last ground report type post.

This is the week we spend a couple nights at Dolly’s Dreammore Resort to celebrate my wife’s birthday. Dolly was not around this week, but the hotel was nearly full. Conferences and events are back on with business and charitable orgs. Some family joined us for dinner one night to celebrate. The facility is very nice and they keep it, the rooms, and grounds spotless. Glad we go in the winter because the room rates are outrageous the rest of the year. They are in the midst of a winter concert series on weekends of some famous country music singers from the past.

Her second 300 room resort hotel called HeartSong Lodge and Resort will be complete this fall about a quarter mile up the road in the hills. Looks beautiful.

It’s my time to observe as the area is year round with tourism now. I spotted only a couple of women in masks the entire time – hotel, retailing, restaurants – everywhere. Only one guest at the hotel had on a mask in three days of seeing perhaps at least 500+ people. No staff anywhere we went had on masks. Things are back to Pre-COVID normal around here except for all of the job openings in the middle of winter. That is not normal at all. Job openings everywhere.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

I agree with his last sentence.

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
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Congratulations to Ronna McDaniel on her big WIN as RNC CHAIR. Now we have to STOP THE DEMOCRATS FROM CHEATING IN ELECTIONS!

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phoenixrising37

That’s like stopping the incoming tide! DIMs always cheat …

And it’s not two parties… it’s only one …

it’s their club, and he ain’t in it….

kalbokalbs

Nor are we, in it.

RDS

@charliekirk11
1:21 PM – Jan 27, 2023

“Been having conversations all morning with RNC members. Some of them truly don’t care what their voters think
“One said:
“I don’t give a flying flip what the small donors think.
“They are not voting today.”

ROBERT BAKER

That comment confirms something obvious to the careful observer. Political parties are not representation models. They are instead, revenue models.

kalbokalbs

Representing Big Business – NOT everyday folks.

#WalkAwayFrom Republicans/GOP/RNC. <<< They loath little people.

singingsoul1

Bingo

WSB

And election interference. Illegal.

kalbokalbs

This should NOT surprise anyone.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

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Donald J. Trump

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I found John Bolton to be one of the dumbest people in Government but, I am proud to say, I used him well. A total & unhinged WARMONGER, the red faced “boiler ready to explode” was one of those very stupid voices that got us into the Middle East quicksand. Seven Trillion Dollars, & Millions of deaths later, NOTHING! The good news is that I won big negotiations with this moron by my side. When I brought him into a room with hostile foreign leaders, they thought I was going to war, CONCEEDED ALL!

phoenixrising37

He misspelled ‘conceded’ …

(don’t tell me it’s part of a code! 😉 )

RDS

Well, this may be something:

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/01/27/pfizer-monkey-business/
Yours Truly: This is a Twitter thread by Tara Bull about the 100 monkeys that “escaped” from a freight truck in Pennsylvania in January, 2022, while they were on route to a “CDC-approved quarantine facility.”
She includes a link to the Project Veritas video with (Dr.) Jordan Walker of Pfizer-BioNTech, who talks about the company using monkeys “to mutate COVID-19 in order to administer more vaccines.”

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP. There is a link – at the very least. They’re using monkeys to test a lot of stuff.

para59r

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/sopranos-star-john-ventimiglias-daughter-dead-25/

This is the daughter of the Soprano guy that ran the restaurant. I’d leave a pic but they are using that .webp instead of .jpg or such so you can hit the story for the pic.

No cause mentioned. They are leaving us baffled, I guess you could take a jab at it, but it might be a shot in the dark. ((okay, I stole those two from the comments)) Any way sad. May she rest in peace.

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kalbokalbs

No cause mentioned. They are leaving us baffled.

^^^ Jab until proven otherwise.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Totally agreed.

kalbokalbs

Another bites the dust…

19-Year-Old WSU Student Found Dead in His Dorm – No Evidence of Foul Play Involved
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/01/19-year-old-wsu-student-found-dead-dorm-no-evidence-foul-play-involved/

WSB

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Wow, needs to be downloaded, exported as a .jog and uploaded to a web hosting photo site.

Phew!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

gil00

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. I counted at least a couple of gratuitous kicks (one very hard), and several gratuitous punches, and then no medical.

WORSE than George Floyd, IMO.

Before that, he resisted pretty hard, and he did piss off the cops, but nothing that came close to the assaults he was given. He never STRUCK the cops.

And remember – the Dems always ask for more cops “who look like the criminals” from the same area as the crimes. WELL, WELL, LOOKIE WHAT HAPPENS.

Aubergine

Do you know how sad it makes me that I was so relieved when I saw all the cops were black?

God, what we have come to. Sickening.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah. I hear you.

gil00

2 sherriff’s deputies were there, now on admin leave.
2 ff paramedics did NOT render aid. They have been fired.
That whole area has some changes coming.

Aubergine

As it should.

TheseTruths

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gil00

Did you know community policing was created by San Diego pd? Crime is out of control, that city is filthy, and it has never ever worked!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THAT is interesting.

gil00

Oh far far worse Wolf. This was hunting him down and beating him. No clear answer on why he was pulled over either. Which one did it? Where is the dasm cam? The dept and city will pay millions, but will anything get better ? I have not seen anything if he was possibly high. He had crohns disease. He had to be careful w his body so wtf?

gil00
TheseTruths

I’m sorry it happened, but I can’t watch. Does this mean more riots?

gil00

They have shut down the fwy and are doing the angry antifa burn it down stuff. Its early so 50.50 chance.

scott467

Never heard of Tyre Nichols, but those can’t possibly be professional police officers.

Those look like illegal aliens hired to police American civilians.

Any professional cop is trained to subdue someone who resists arrest, and once the civilian is on the ground, especially with more than one cop in attendance, it’s game over.

There are at least 3 or 4 cops involved initially.

If that many cops can’t keep one person down and get him handcuffed, then those cops aren’t real cops, not by any professional standard that I’m aware of.

Then they pepper-spray him like it’s demonstration day at the annual Raid Convention.

Then, after they’re done playing with pepper spray, they let Nichols STAND UP.

THEN, some cop who appears to have long dreadlocks squares up and engages in a slap-fight with the civilian.

This is absurd.

This is NOT how a professional police force conducts itself.

This just looks like hoodlums vs. hoodlums.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

George Soros knew this would happen.

cthulhu

Soros paid for this to happen.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Did China pay George Soros to make this happen?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Or did Gavin Newsom pay China to pay Soros to pay for this to happen?

WSB

Our taxpayer dollars stolen by Soros through US AID did.

gil00

Tyre had zero criminal history. At 29 yo with that, hes a good kid, especially considering how hard it is in black communities. 6’3, 145 lbs bc he had Crone’s disease. 1 4 yr old child. Worked ft at fed ex.

These guys were all cops less than 6 yrs. They were desperate to get anyone hired dt to losing cops and the increase in crime from 5-7 yrs ago. Then covid, defund the popo, and blm. At least 2 on a special team.
FF paramedics refused to give the guy aid for 30 minutes, theyve been fired.
2 Sheriff’s deputies that responded have been walked out and are being investigated.
Why no aid? Very very unprofessional all around.
These werent cops. No supervision noted. Who runs the SCORPION unit they were on? Theres some cya going on in that dept.
These now ex cops are scum.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What in the heck was he pulled over for to begin with?

gil00

Supposedly reckless driving. Im not sure a marked unit stopped him. There should be dashcam footage if so. There seems to be no record of the stop to dispatch? These guys were uniformed and plainclothes. Sounds really sketchy like what lapd and nypd did w good intentions that got corrupted. Lack of supervision, bad employees, no training.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK – this explains some things I noticed about his behavior. Reckless driving means substance of some kind, which is why he never settled down. He was likely drunk or high, and could not pull his shit together. This is part of why drinking alone is dangerous, and drinking at all while or before driving is dangerous. The impaired judgement just ups the likelihood of death by SOME – ANY – kind of misadventure – like not listening to cops.

The dude would not settle down, and the asshole cops didn’t read the situation correctly. Then he RAN – again, bad decision he would not have made sober – and they went after him.

Whole thing is a tragedy. If he had been sober, it would have ended well, IMO.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Explains the taser not working. Dude was probably jabbed, so he had a bad ticker, bad clotting, bad everything. Fragile already, the jab made him more fragile.

gil00

Yes there was some allusion to it in how the cops talked w each other after. And why no mention of toxicology on Tyre? Tragic all around. Really.

WSB

His legs were everywhere. Seems like a George Floyd 2.0 target.

WSB

Good question. Framed? Target?

WSB

Stazi.

gil00

Essentially rookie cops given free reign i guess. I just wonder about each officer’s history.

WSB

I have a more than a sneaking suspicion that police forces have been so infiltrated (LaRaza, etc.) that Obama/Soros armies are in control of the takedown of every city in the US they can get away with. Memphis being one of them.

One Obamaphone away from coordination with the FIB’s and whatever other actors are needed.

phoenixrising37

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you! This was a GREAT reveal!!!

Gail Combs

Badlands Media Special Coverage – Twitter Files – Chris Paul and Zak Paine

https://rumble.com/v27dy8s-badlands-media-special-coverage-twitter-files-chris-paul-and-zak-paine.html

Zak and Chris did a nice job of covering the above with interesting commentary.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Frikkin Krystal, McFaul, Podesta, probably all the 51 disinfo signers too. AZZHATS!!

Gail Combs

EVIL CRIMINALS!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They lied to us, and the world, to try to stop Trump.

And their goalkeeper, RONNA, is still in place.

nikkichico7

Well .. there is the Hand of God …

nikkichico7

Maybe ..

Gail Combs

I would strongly suggest that EVERY REPUBLICAN VOTER CALL their state RNC CHAIR and ask how they can change their registration to DEMOCRAT.

After all if the RNC doesn’t NEED republican voters, and they have certainly made that clear, then we should move to a party that does.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

nikkichico7

… 😔💔 …😢

Matthew 25:40 – And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

Matthew 18:10 
“See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven.

Deuteronomy 32:35
Vengeance is mine, and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip; for the day of their calamity is at hand, and their doom comes swiftly.’

… 💔 …

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

nikkichico7
bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

TheseTruths

LOL.

nikkichico7

Ain’t he “tweet”🎶🎶🎶🎶 see him walking down the ….. 🎶 … 😎🤚🎶