Dear KAG: 20230531 Open Thread

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Badlands News Brief – May 30, 2023

The Consequences of American Meritocracy in the Rearview

Medicare-for-All: Resurrection of a Terrible Idea

June: Pride Month becoming Shame Month?

Why today’s elites literally can’t stand free speech

Meet The ‘Nonpartisan’ Dark-Money Group Rigging Michigan Elections So Democrats Can’t Lose

The Sting

Stunning poll on COVID vaccine-refusers and Ukraine war

On the surface, the personal decision not to receive an experimental vaccine would seem to have no correlation with 80% or more opposition to escalation of the conflict by their home country. But dig a millimeter deeper and I think the common factor is pretty obvious. These are people who are skeptical of massive propaganda campaigns pushed by the combined forces of government and corporate establishments. Henningsen describes himself as “a fierce critic of MSM propaganda.”

Majority of COVID Hospital Deaths Were Due to Untreated Bacterial Pneumonia

Just like the Influenza Epidemic of 1918 when face coverings were all the rage. One of my dad’s aunts died as a result. Her twin sister died a year later of grief. 100 years on, and no one remembered.

The Regime Is Terrified of Robert Kennedy Jr. Who Is Polling Higher than DeSantis but Ignored by Liberal Pollsters – RFK Jr. Speaks Out (VIDEO)

I wouldn’t vote for him, necessarily, but he is doing a bang up job red pilling a lot of people.

Go to America

McCarthy’s Debt Limit Deal Obscures “Four Years of Meaningless Cuts” and “Locks In COVID Highs”

Not Just Target: Walmart’s ESG Efforts Focus on Catering to LGBT Agenda

Which means I’m paying three dollars more for a big box of tea since both Target and Walmart are off limits.

Former Trump adviser Michael Flynn is launching an online community for ‘COVID-19 unvaccinated people,’ where you can find blood donors, surrogates, and ‘unvaccinated singles.’ A founding membership costs $2,500.

That’s a little steep….

Okay, that’s a lot steep for Americans who aren’t all that well heeled.

Tweets!

Pride is the worst of all deadly sins, after all.

Questionable as a strategy, but they are stuck with unsold merchandise.

MEMES!

They know what day it is, and my sandbox at the farm was an old tractor tire with sand in it.

I didn’t notice until it was pointed out, but I live in an area that’s been REALLY diverse for decades.

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

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ZEPHANIAH 3:14-18

14Sing aloud, O daughter of Zion; shout, O Israel! Rejoice and exult with all your heart, O daughter of Jerusalem! 15The LORD has taken away the judgments against you, he has cast out your enemies. The King of Israel, the LORD, is in your midst; you shall fear evil no more. 16On that day it shall be said to Jerusalem: “Do not fear, O Zion; let not your hands grow weak. 17The LORD, your God, is in your midst, a warrior who gives victory; he will rejoice over you with gladness, he will renew you in his love; he will exult over you with loud singing 18as on a day of festival. “I will remove disaster from you, so that you will not bear reproach for it.

ISAIAH 12:2-6

2“Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and will not be afraid; for the LORD GOD is my strength and my song, and he has become my salvation.” 3With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation. 4And you will say in that day: “Give thanks to the LORD, call upon his name; make known his deeds among the nations, proclaim that his name is exalted. 5“Sing praises to the LORD, for he has done gloriously; let this be known in all the earth. 6Shout, and sing for joy, O inhabitant of Zion, for great in your midst is the Holy One of Israel.”

LUKE 1:39-56

39In those days Mary arose and went with haste into the hill country, to a city of Judah, 40and she entered the house of Zechari’ah and greeted Elizabeth. 41And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit 42and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43And why is this granted me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44For behold, when the voice of your greeting came to my ears, the babe in my womb leaped for joy. 45And blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfilment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.” 46And Mary said, “My soul magnifies the Lord, 47and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior, 48for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; 49for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. 50And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. 51He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, 52he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; 53he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. 54He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, 55as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever.” 56And Mary remained with her about three months, and returned to her home.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

SATIRE SECTION

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cthulhu

Thank you, DePat, for another heapin’ helpin’ of content!

Hope your knee is better.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Not as hard as porcelain tile!

Gail Combs

Both take a toll on old knees. That is why I have the kneeling pads. You can also get kneepads that either slip on or tie on. Used to use them when I caved.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The straps on my kneepads raised blood blisters.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – very painful. OUCH! I learned to wear thick jeans and constantly fiddle with the location of the straps, while keeping them flat, to avoid any pinching. Knock on wood, that’s still working.

cthulhu

I found that the more comfortable the actual pads were, the worse I hated the straps.

WSB

Get grandchildren to do it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Gail Combs

I used the slip-on but you had to be careful that they were sized correctly.

pgroup2

Harbor Freight has them. Lots of laborers use them.

para59r

I keep several pieces of carboard cut from the top of boxes for such a purpose. Use one to kneel on and one to move to. Faster than buckling on or pulling up knee pads, both types I have, but the carboard is easily mobile and work every bit as well.

Now the wife is mediaeval asian and she works the garden like this for prolonged periods. Her knees never touch the ground.

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I used to be able to do that, but I wasn’t born to it like she was. Doing it now wrecks my knees.
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scott467

It’s like they’re pretending to sit on imaginary chairs… 😁

para59r

Some seem to refuse the concept. Reminds me of the Amish who hung the chairs on the wall and only took them down for dinner.
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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very cool!

Gail Combs

Well I just used the garden kneeling pad to change my pony’s bandage and it was SOOOooo much more comfortable.

Why am I, the one who faints at the sight of blood, the one who gets to do the bandaging. My friend has taken nursing classes and she could not do a fast neat job.🙄 And hubby is hopeless.

I will say I MUCH prefer a cut on the straight part of the leg. Trying to bandage the heel is a mess!

He has a sore the size of a silver dollar above where it says digital cushion.

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Gail Combs

Vet says about 3 to 4 months – ARGHHhhhh!

I hope my knees hold out!

WSB

Hot dang! How awful! Sorry to hear!

WSB

Gail, I would call my vet and then faint!

gil00

Knee pads!

michaelh

The FBI as advanced persistent threat – and what to do about it
Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you
Rupert Goodwins
Tue 30 May 2023 // 09:58 UTC

https://www.theregister.com/2023/05/30/column/

OPINION The best device to reduce road deaths, suggested economist Gordon Tulloch, would be a large steel spike in the center of every car’s steering wheel. Focuses the mind.

The IT security equivalent is an “Assume This Device Is Tapped” sticker on every phone, tablet and computer. Absent that, the best we can do is pay attention when those with legal access to all our data abuse those powers and help themselves.

Consider a repeat offender: the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Last week, the FBI was caught using its power to hoover up communications without a warrant, ostensibly to monitor foreign threats, to plunder the privacy of many thousands of US citizens whose revulsion at a brutal killing of a Black man by white cops marked them as activists.

This is nothing new. Search for “FBI abuse of powers” – replacing FBI with other state agencies to taste – and you’ll be scrolling for a year. It’s actually quite cheering that democracies still have safeguards to bring this stuff to light, and yet it keeps happening. If you live in a part of the world where such protection is diluted or absent, you won’t need telling how bad it can get.

Leaving aside the ethics, legality and politics, it’s important to make a practical evaluation of state agencies as advanced persistent threats in the communications stack. Spies are gonna spy. It’s also important to consider the whole threat matrix, and to identify the most effective way to minimize risk as an ordinary user. What can you do to protect against undue surveillance while keeping the utility of your devices?

. . .

cthulhu

One important consideration is to know who your “friends” are. When cellphone providers, ISP’s, and credit card companies freely hand over information to rogue government entities without a warrant….they may be taking your money and actively working against you.

Aubergine

If I’m saying something I think the feds might be interested in within sight of my phone, I talk to them:

“Hi, federal agent listening in. Hope you are enjoying this.”

kalbokalbs

Not that ya would. Maybe toss in a clear, Go F…

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Aubergine

Oh, I do! I can cuss like a drunk sailor. I used to be married to a Marine.

cthulhu

The “June: Pride Month Becoming Shame Month” link seems to be geblurpt.

Gail Combs
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This one is gold! Click into it!

gil00

And be fairy godmother’s in training. Disturbing…I cannot in good faith ever take kiddo to Disneyland.

cthulhu

Disneyland was a safer place back in the days when it had a bra shop on Main Street.

cthulhu
gil00

I had no idea. They got rid of my favorite. Tom sawyers island and the rafts. Everything gone really.

cthulhu

Well, they still have rafts and an island. A lot of the stuff that used to be there was removed at the insistence of insurance companies.

gil00

Yeah. They took the fun out.

cthulhu

My uncle climbed “Castle Rock” and replaced the flag there with the flag of Santa Monica High School.

pgroup2

Nowadays in the time of CRT in schools, he’d probably climb up there to take it down.

Gail Combs

Heck the IDJITS want to put SEAT BELTS on the saddles of pony rides….

Ponies are known for bloating so the cinch can not be fully tightened. (I tighten 3 times and the little buggers STILL out wit me sometimes.)

Now imagine a child tied to a saddle that has slipped under the belly of the pony…
AND THE PONY GOES BANANAS!

And yeah it happened.

New Jersey had such a law BTW.

WSB

This happened to me years ago.

I wiped the dust off of myself and got back on.

cthulhu

“Ever” is a long time, and it would be better if you took him than he went with a random group.

But you’d sure want to be certain that he had a well-seated sense of skepticism.

kalbokalbs

Better to not go at all, to Disneyland.

All of their woke BS. Promoting freaks and their behavior.

No. NOPE.

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cthulhu

While I have plenty of beef with the current Corporation, Management, and Board of Directors, I’m afraid I’m sort of stuck regarding the park. My grandfather worked on the original audio wiring for the Golden Horseshoe Revue, and my family grew up around the place.

There is a certain mind-bending architecture to the place — a totally created reality — which was inspired by Walt Disney himself and brought to life by his Imagineers. A classic story has a guest saying, in reference to The Pirates of the Caribbean, “it’s a pity that Walt never got to see it.” (He died midway through its construction.) The reply was, “of course, Walt got to see it! — how the heck do you think it got here?”

It is now wildly expensive, and too much woke, and some of the best parts are aging. But it is something to be seen, enjoyed, and studied. It shows what you can do with a bunch of orange groves if you set your mind to it.

kalbokalbs

Yep. Good with Disney as it was in the past. Incredible, it was.

cthulhu

….and much cheaper, too!

Gail Combs

Went to the one in Florida back in the day. Took some of my hillbilly friends who had never even seen the ocean.

No kids but It was really fun to watch their eyes bug out at the wonders.

gil00

Adventureland and new orleans square were always my fave. Theyve developed all the big back lot now too…no horse stables anymore…picnic grounds…etc. i may not recognize it.

cthulhu

A famous example of Walt Disney pragmatism —

https://dizbuff.com/disneyland-red-and-white-light-bulb/

He could have made ’em tear it out and build it again with an even number of bulbs.

cthulhu

There are things you can do at Disneyland that go beyond the normal rides.

There are currently five locomotives on the Disneyland Railroad —

  1. C. K. Holliday — 4-4-0 (American)
  2. E. P. Ripley — 4-4-0 (American)
  3. Fred Gurley — 2-4-4T (Boston)
  4. Ernest S. Marsh — 2-4-0 (Porter)
  5. Ward Kimball — 2-4-4T (Boston)

The latter three were originally built as commercial narrow-gauge locomotives by the Baldwin Locomotive Works. The first two, by contrast, were never “real” locomotives. They are actually scaled-UP narrow-gauge versions of scaled-DOWN 7-1/4″-gauge hobby locomotives — the C. K. Holliday in particular was a larger version of Disney’s personal Lilly Belle. This, BTW, makes ’em a particular pain-in-the-neck to maintain.

The 7-1/4″-gauge versions of the Holliday and Ripley didn’t have sufficient room for a human being to fit within the cab, so were actually operated while sitting on the tender. The less-miniaturized model engines in use today continue to have seats on the tender, even though a fireman and engineer ride within the cab.

If, when the park opens, you don’t run down to the hub for the rope drop, you can go to the Main Street Station and ask the Station Master which trains are running that day. If the Holliday or Ripley (or both) are running, you can ask the Station Master to see if you could ride the tender around the Park.

There is a lot going on in this interaction, and it will be helpful if you get it right. First, the apron for walking along the train is only long enough to reach the locomotive at Main Street — you cannot get on or off at any other stop. Second, the Station Master has no control over trains — he is responsible for the station and people there. Third, while Firemen and Engineers have active and fun roles to play in running a train, it is the Conductor who is responsible for the business of the train — and ultimately it is his decision. That said, he’d be a fool if he didn’t consult his Fireman and Engineer to ensure they are in the mood. So you’re asking the Station Master to ask the Conductor on your behalf to check with the Fireman and Engineer to see if they are in the mood to have you along. If you get on, be sure to thank everyone appropriately — mind you, if they were hostile to the concept, they’d likely be working somewhere else.

If your train isn’t the next one, you can also polish your credentials as a train buff by asking the Station Master if you can run out on the apron and get glamor shots of the lantern or builder’s plaque for the other locomotives while they’re in the station. You may have to wait for your selected train to come all the way around, which is only about 20 minutes.

This can be a very costly experience in other places, but at Disneyland you have to show up and ask.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyland_Railroad

kalbokalbs

Good on ya.

Endless great “Kiddo” things to do up and down the Sierra’s. <<< Affordable.

Guessing, Disneyland starts at $100 and up per person. Toss in food. Maybe souvenir(s). In my world, too damn expensive.

Besides, I always like reading Disney is losing money, laying off, or whatever their well earned woes are.

cthulhu

All this is true, but the actual physical Disneyland can teach you more tricks than a semester at college — and it’s best to soak it in and go “wow!” first, and then be shown how the trick works.

As an example, Main Street seems to go on a long ways….but it’s fairly quick to walk. That comes from forced perspective. The ground floor of Main Street is subtly miniaturized — I believe it’s 7/8 scale — while the upper floor (which you never visit) is at, IIRC, 5/8 scale. As a result, all the buildings look much taller, and the street looks much longer. Similar distortions are used on the castle and the Matterhorn.

Walt insisted that important sight lines in the Park have what he called “weenies” at their ends, to give patrons a reason to move in those directions. As you walk from land to land, you will note that the pavement changes — from wagon ruts and horseshoe prints in Frontierland to cobblestones in Fantasyland.

You may hear the term “audio-animatronics” — this is a way of syncing robotic motions to specific times and audio cues. It is based on the way that analog audio was originally put on the edges of movie film in the form of little squiggles.

And, then, you hit the mind-blowing Omnimover, best used in Adventure Through Inner Space (defunct) and The Haunted Mansion. When you get into a “Doom Buggy”, it appears to be a six-foot tall shell with a seat. As it turns out, it actually extends below the floor almost as far as it does above. As you go through the ride, the Doom Buggy will swivel right and left, tilt backward, and the safety bar will open and close. This is not done with electronics. Instead, there are separate tracks under the floor for each of the vehicle’s motions. A follower wheel from the vehicle extends to the track, and mechanical linkages translate the wheel’s motions to motions of the above-the-floor vehicle.

So many things in Disneyland inspired me to do so many things as an adult. I might not have become SCUBA certified if it weren’t for the submarine ride. We might not have traveled to exotic tropical destinations were we not inspired by the Tiki Room. I wouldn’t be as much of a train nut if it weren’t for the Disneyland Railroad. Even things like knowing what well-painted ironwork was supposed to look like….

But they can take Nick the Fairy Godmother and shove it.

cthulhu
singingsoul1

I was one time in Disney because my husband had a meeting in California. My daughter and husband came from Nev. They all wanted to go to Disney I could care less and found it very artificial. Do not like the rides food bad over priced . My brain does not work that way I rather would have been in a Museum, or Botanical Garden, or take antique house tour, or take a hike in the woods. So I am not fun 🙂

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Aubergine

I’ll go to the museum and botanical garden with you. I’m not fun, either 🙂

singingsoul1

Ha ha good to know 🙂

Gail Combs

Make that three of us! We could have a lot of fun. 😜

Cuppa Covfefe

We’d go to Knott’s Berry Farm back in they day, and Camp Snoopy. Cheaper, cleaner, more family-oriented, and also fun.

We took our son to Disneyland ONCE, just to check the box, as it were, and even he said it wasn’t worth the money. He did spend a lot of time on Autopia after he got bored with everything else.

First time I went there was in 1955, right after it opened, and maybe a couple of times after that as my aunt and uncle and cousins lived there. But that was in the days of ABCD and E tickets without the flat fee at the front, and you could enter and not go on any rides at all if that was your thing, and it wouldn’t cost anything (few people did that, but older folks did, especially the grands who couldn’t do the rides physically)…

I honestly don’t know how people can justify the enormous outlay required for such a relatively small benefit, and now all the alphabetsoup crap on top of that. Pinoccio and GayPaedo indeed….

Gail Combs

I also thought Disney was not a very good ROI. We did other more fun less expensive stuff when we were in Florida with our friends. We were moving Hubby’s aunt down to her sister’s home and wanted another set of drivers. One for the moving truck and one for our pickup for the drive back.

Since we were there we decided to see the sights.

gil00

Knotts is in the middle of a total gut and remodel of Fiesta Village. Shut the whole thing down til later this summer. Redoing Log Ride too. Theyre putting a full service sit down mex restaurant in the fiesta village.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hope they keep the legendary Fried Chicken Restaurant… and the Boysenberry Pies IIRC…

Then again, fried chicken is probably RAYYYYCIIISSSSSSS…. sigh…

Gail Combs

SOUTHERN!

gil00

Its been remodelled a couple yrs ago. Not as good as it used to be. They put out a recipe book of all the ones you’d like. You can order online…but i cant find fresh or frozen boysenberries anywhere.

cthulhu

Try marionberries.

gil00

Theres an idea. My boysenberries are not at production ready age yet.

cthulhu
gil00

Boysenberries w the raspberry-ness are so good. Ill see how those taste.

cthulhu

If you’re growing boysenberries of your own, you need not find a “forever-berry” — just one that will tide you over until your own come in.

gil00

Ok. Im surprised i cant find anything but raspberries and sometimes blackberries. None of the others and certainly no ollaliberries.

cthulhu

Even in Farmers’ Markets?

Are all of them Driscoll’s?

gil00

All the fruit is driscolls. I dont go to farmers msrkets down here much. Its not like up there. A lot of the same vendors at them and not so much produce variety.

Aubergine

Yeah we could!

Gail Combs

I wish I still had my pair of driving horses so we could go on a nice picnic drive.

I paid my legal fees with a couple outings for my lawyer and his family. They loved it.

One trip was to a restaurant in New Hampshire. We could go most of the way by dirt roads and then unhitch and tie the horses with hay bags to keep them busy while we had dinner.

Aubergine

That would be so awesome!

Gail Combs

Oh it was. The lawyer said there was no way he could BUY the adventures we gave his family.

We also spent a week on Mount Desert Island. It has over 100 miles of carriage roads. (Arcadia National Park)

Ain’t barter great?

Aubergine

🙂

kalbokalbs

Along the lines of why I frequently post, Eastern Sierra’s, a GREAT playground. Hundreds of miles.

Pure, simple fun. Not to mention relaxing… Stunning beauty…

Gail Combs

The USA has some very very good parks and forests. I did a lot of horseback riding in town forests. The ATV guys and I did a lot of the up keep on the trails for the town.

Aubergine

Nice!

gil00

Disney is higher than 100! I just did a quick shopping cart for a Monday in July. 3 tix and parking for a 1 day pass to Disneyland only(no CA Adventure) is $582.00. Add your food and souvenirs and its easily another 200. I read a hot dog is 12.00.
No, cannot afford that anyway.

Cuppa Covfefe

Probably only the Gay TINKS can afford that (two incomes no kids)…..

gil00

Gay or straight and foreigners.

kalbokalbs

Those prices are obscene. So many better ways to spend $800+, on fun stuff.

Cuppa Covfefe

LIke a new set of tires 😆  🙃  😎 

Gail Combs

Or a pony cart or a used Meadowbrook…

gil00

Imagine wanting to stay a weekend?

mollypitcher5

……and yet the fools keep walking in..a DUDE with a mustache and whingy voice and a princess dress…I just cant.

gil00

I know…just cringe.

TheseTruths

A few days ago, Catturd tweeted that that account, which he “might or might not” have anything to do with, had been restored on Twitter. Hmm…
(I can’t find that tweet now.)

Barb Meier

I listen to Jewels Jones & Catturd’s 1 hour podcast (called InTheLitterbox on Rumble and other sites) from 3pm EDT to 4pm. Yesterday, Catturd explained the parody account is owned by Michael Morrison (@OfficeOfMike) who reached out to Catturd to ask for help with posts. Catturd said that a number of people submit posts and his might be about 40% of the posts. Jewels said she can recognize the tweets that Catturd wrote because of their podcast work. LOL The AOCpress account was banned at AOC’s request, IIR, but reactivated recently.

M-F at 3:00PM ET | Visit: https://inthelitterbox.com
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TheseTruths

Good info, thanks!

Barb Meier

You’re welcome! Today, I just listened to their guest Scott Presler and he was overflowing with sauce for how to win the upcoming elections. It replays shortly after they finish. Scott said people’s time was most helpful (more than donations). How refreshing…

WSB

The classic pregnant blond joke…what she says to her boyfriend, “Is it mine?”

gil00

I wish his family would tell the truth. He’s borderline died suddenly.

cthulhu

He and Damar Hamlin could go on tour as “Survivors”.

TheseTruths

Regarding DeSantaClaus not having an answer for why he’s not waiting until 2028 to run, he has placed himself in a precarious political position by running against Trump. The stock answer to “Why are you running now?” would be that the current administration is killing the country, but also that your opponents can’t get the job done…which means saying you think you could do a better job than Trump. The more DeSedative says that, the more he turns off MAGA voters that he desperately needs.

I don’t think he has fire in his belly for this campaign, which makes me think he was talked into it, which is a political miscalculation so huge, and such a strong indication that he is owned, that I would question his judgment as president. (Not that I would consider him for POTUS anyway.)

pgroup2

DeSedative”

ROTFLMAO.

  :wpds_lol: 

TheseTruths

I think Matt Gaetz gets the credit for that one. 😂

Cuppa Covfefe

DeSoros…

gil00

The warmongers would gung ho go for ww3.

singingsoul1

The winner will be “Soros” who wanted the fight between Trump and DeSedative. The man is not very bright only greedy for the 10 million he is promised according to Barns in book deal. They hide the pay offs in book deals. They cannot fool us anymore.

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Gail Combs

Just after he left the navy he wrote another book.

From WIKI:

He left active military duty in 2010. DeSantis was first elected to Congress in 2012.

He has written two books; Dreams From Our Founding Fathers: First Principles in the Age of Obama was published before his first campaign for Congress in 2011, and The Courage to Be Free was published in 2023 before his presidential campaign.

singingsoul1

Interesting not buying the books maybe when they are free I might read them 🙂

Gail Combs

Book Deals make GREAT untraceable BRIBES..

singingsoul1

Yes bribes

TheseTruths

I hope this is true.

Benny Johnson:

🚨TARGET IN TOTAL RETREAT🚨

A whistleblower sent me an exclusive internal Target memo ORDERING the deconstruction of the Groomer “Pride” section ACROSS stores.

I went to the Target we reported from last week to check. I was shocked at what we found.

The Pride display signage is GONE. Groomer items GONE. Satanic designer items GONE. Sex cult children’s books GONE. Tuck swimsuits GONE. Baby clothes GONE. Child mannequins GONE. And much, much more.

This is the power we have to protect our children. We should use it more often. Onward.

Here is the memo. It’s not clear to me exactly what it means, but it seems that something is happening.

Benny Johnson:

After we exposed Target for using kids mannequins to sell “pride” merch & other sexualized items a whistleblower sent us this internal Target guidance ordering the REMOVAL of kids mannequins, groomer/satanic swag & DISMANTLING the Pride display in children’s section.

Big W.

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pgroup2

Once I robbed a bank.

I got arrested.

I gave them the money back.

They said, no harm no foul and let me go.

cthulhu

You must be a major Democrat politician or donor.

TheseTruths

They said, no harm no foul and let me go.

Right…they were more forgiving and trusting than a lot of us, LOL.

TheseTruths

It doesn’t matter what Target does at this point; I will not be shopping there. I just want as much of a clawback on the LGBTQWHATEVER agenda as possible.

They need to say they were wrong about so many things, but they won’t because I guess it would ruin their social credit score and anger the “pride community.” But even if they did say all the right things and fired all the right people, I would not trust them.

kalbokalbs

The Left NEVER apologizes or backs down.

Even if TarGay pulled all their pride crap from the stores AND web site, TarGay is dead to me.

Eons since I’ve been in a TarGay.

pgroup2

Preciously my point. It’s over for Tar-ghey; few if any boycotters will go back.

gil00

I havent gone into my local stores. I suspect if we all chose to pop into one any check that might help. Betcha everything is online.

gil00

Ok yep. I just checked. Everything online. You can do up your whole house, your family, your pets in all their crap.

cthulhu

If you start feeding your neutered cat from a “gender fluid” cup, does it start spraying the furniture?

gil00

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Aubergine

If you go to 1:03 in the video and pause, there is something with a pride flag on it on the display that is there now. Blow it up, you’ll see it, top right.

Cuppa Covfefe

That last sentence would solve it all 🙂

That’s what they always do…

Speaking of which, the entire UWV football team was required to take remedial English due to their grades.

The professor asked, “what comes at the end of a sentence?”…

“The Appeal”, they all replied with Mountaineer pride 😀

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Aubergine

Lol!

TradeBait2

For years I would get the heebie jeebies the infrequent times wifey wanted to get something from Tar-gay. Even well before the restroom and debit card fiascos. Something just felt off.

Now, wifey is even, “Aw, hail no!” about going. So we had lunch today at a restaurant we love that shares a parking lot with one. The restaurant was packed. Tar-gay’s parking lot was half filled compared to normal. Oh well…

Gail Combs

The once or twice I went to Target, it was ‘whats the deal? I had ZERO desire to ever go back.

TheseTruths

I appreciate this guy’s message, from the open:

A homosexual who says the “pride” flag does not represent him. He’s with Operations for Gays Against Groomers and says the American flag represents him. He also says, “Stop indoctinating children.”

pgroup2

If you fall for this headfake, then you’re in serious need of psych classes.

He’s queer, and he wants to be ‘normalized’ into straight society.

I can’t believe Seb Gorka isn’t smart enough to spot this con game.

TheseTruths

Oh, I get it. It’s kind of a throwback to what they originally said they wanted. Now things have gone way too far and it’s making them look bad. But I like any pushback on the trans agenda and the indoctrination of children.

Aubergine

I get it, too. And if they want to retreat to the closet, fine with me. But they’d better stay way back in there and shut the hell up. And leave the kids alone.

Gail Combs

I think some of them are smart enough to realize the backlash could get really really bad and people will not distinquish between ‘gay’ and Pedo if the really nasty ROT ever surfaces.

Aubergine

I agree.

TheseTruths

This happened in 2021, but it’s a good story.

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kalbokalbs

Good news all around.

cthulhu

My first very serious girlfriend, who is substantially responsible for me being housebroken, was essentially a Polish blonde. Imprinted me so hard that Konrad Lorenz could mistake me for a duckling….

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TheseTruths

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kalbokalbs

Looking good to me. As usual. 🙂

TheseTruths

Rep. Gaetz to Newsmax: McCarthy Can Be Ousted for Using Dem Votes
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/matt-gaetz-debt-kevin-mccarthy/2023/05/30/id/1121737/

(emphasis mine)

The House could pass the debt-ceiling deal agreed to by House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., and President Joe Biden, but it might ultimately cost McCarthy his job if he has to have Democrat votes to do it, Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., warned Tuesday on Newsmax.

“The operative question there is whether or not the speaker can get to a majority of the majority,” Gaetz told Tuesday’s “The Chris Salcedo Show.” “If a majority of Republicans are against a piece of legislation, and you use Democrats to pass it, that would immediately be a black-letter violation of the deal we had with McCarthy to allow his ascent to the speakership, and it would likely trigger an immediate motion to vacate.

“I think Speaker McCarthy knows that. That’s why he’s working hard to make sure that he gets 120, 150, 160 votes.”

Republicans control the House with a 222-213 majority, so, as Gaetz pointed out to host Chris Salcedo, McCarthy needs to whip up at least 112 Republican votes for the Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2023.

“That’s a key number because according to the concessions that Speaker McCarthy made in January, he can only bring legislation to the floor if a majority of the majority is going to support it,” Gaetz told Salcedo. “Right now, that may be in question. The first test for Speaker McCarthy is the Rules Committee. That’s a committee where we’ve got folks who are very dead set against this bill like Chip Roy and Ralph Norman.

“So will Democrats on the Rules Committee cross over and give Speaker McCarthy what he needs to get the bill to the floor? And then will 112 Republicans indicate that they’re going to vote for it?

“We cannot pass bills with a majority of the Republicans in opposition, so if folks are against this, they should reach out to their member of Congress and have their voice heard.”

Gaetz is a hard no, but he was also a hard no on the previously GOP-passed House deal to raise the debt ceiling.

“I am not going to vote for this bill,” Gaetz said. “I think that it doesn’t put sufficient downward pressure on spending…

It requires just one “motion to vacate” McCarthy as speaker, spiraling the House back into a search for speaker that ultimately required 15 rounds of voting to pick McCarthy in January.

kalbokalbs

Let the search begin. Kevin was a crappy option.

BTW. Where are the promised J6 tapes? Promise was just a pacifier or sorts.

pgroup2

So … knowing all this … why would Kevin make a ‘deal’ like the one he made?

Does he have a ‘end-my-speakership’ wish?

singingsoul1

He is bought by the deep state. Wonder what they have on him ?

pgroup2

It must be a humdinger.

Were it me, I’d disclose my ‘issue’ to the GOP caucus and then tell the Deep State to take their best shot.

Cuppa Covfefe

And, softly playing in the background is Maurice Chevalier singing,  🎶 ”Thank Heaven For Little Girls”  🎶  (or perhaps boys, who knows)…

(He’s from Kalifornistan, so there’s a lotta paedo-to-the-meadow there)…

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Gail Combs

As I said earlier, you do not even have to be a pedo. All it takes is slipping a mickey in your drink at a party and waking up nude in bed with a nude 6 year old and the camera going off.

I wonder just how many ‘Epstiens’ there are out there.

pgroup2

Another good use of designated drivers – being lookouts.

singingsoul1

Good idea 🙂

kalbokalbs

Speaking of Kevin…

Q. Wonder what they have on him ?

A. Luntz.

singingsoul1

That is an open secret

TheseTruths

why would Kevin make a ‘deal’ like the one he made?

He gambled that the rest of the Repubs are as spineless as he is and that they won’t rock the boat?

Please

Was Kevin employed as a mole by DS for this very sacrificial moment?

eilert

“Trump Can’t Win if He Talks About Rigged Elections” is the King of All Lies (substack.com) https://substack.com/@realskeshel

When revisiting 2020, that traumatic, nation-altering year, it is impossible to miss the signs that the corrupt bureaucratic state and its media allies were preparing for something big. We were led to voluntarily destroy our own economy, rip our kids out of the normalcies of their childhoods, abide by illegally instituted election procedures done on the fly, and practice arbitrary standards of social distancing, which didn’t matter if you were seated in a restaurant or attending a BLM rally.

These ominous signs gave the impression that the 2020 election would be a third world disaster, even before it happened. President Trump warned months before that the election would be rigged but was constantly thwarted in state after state when his teams challenged executive fiat instituting mail voting and other cheat mechanisms. Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, under fire for pushing back against the takeover of the Lone Star State, was also aware of the election-rigging of 2020, suing successfully a dozen times to combat open sabotage of Texas’s elections.

By alluding beforehand to the 2020 election being rigged, men like Trump and Paxton accurately identified the unfair advantage sought by Democrats that, in a close race, could have flipped key states to Biden and cost Trump re-election. No one, Trump included, expected the incumbent to garner 74 million votes, a gain of 11 million from the previous election, and still be outrun by rampant cheating. It had never been done before. In case you’re new to my writing, President Trump thus became the first incumbent president since Grover Cleveland in 1888 to gain votes from the previous election and lose. Three campaigns since that time (Franklin Roosevelt twice, and then Obama) lost votes from previous election and won.

That brings me to the heart of the matter: President Trump did not “lose” re-election because he complained about rigged electionsIf that were the case, he would not have gained 11 million votes and satisfied every meaningful trend, indicator, bellwether, and predictor in place for more than a century that, together, point to an emphatic re-election win.

Now, what do we hear today from the mainstream commentariat and, lately, the Conservative, Inc., wannabe statesmen?

Trump can’t win if he pushes the “rigged election” narrative because it will alienate an electorate that doesn’t care about that issue.

No, morons, it will not. The reason candidates like President Trump or Kari Lake have been “losing” lately is because those seeking to preserve the current order, that of a global bureaucracy hellbent on keeping the world engaged in endless wars, realigning the global economy via corrupt trade agreements, and pitting citizens against one another by instigating racial, cultural, and social strife of various kinds have perfected election manipulation.

………..

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again here: there is no political future for Americans without a return to clean, transparent, and trustworthy elections. This, for the time being, is a Constitutional Republic, one that has stood longer than any in the history of the world. It is based upon liberty and justice for all, and a government of, by, and for the people. It doesn’t make a damn bit of difference if a Republican or Democrat resides in the White House if that president didn’t punch his ticket there by the will of the people, as commanded by their votes.

DeSantis, along with Trump’s other primary challengers, refuses to give a clear opinion on the 2020 election when pressed, but in referring to his own credentials over Trump’s, alludes to Trump’s supposed inability to be re-elected in 2020, tacitly affirming the conduct of that election. I haven’t heard a word from any of these challengers about Kari Lake’s ongoing lawfare against the corrupt Arizona cartel, though the evidence is radioactive even when she has the smallest windows available to make her cases.

I hope there are people outside of my bubble reading this article. It is not intended to be a hit piece against any candidate, especially DeSantis, but is designed to have the reader understand that the people have lost complete control over this experiment in self-governance if our elections are pre-determined, or if our candidate selections have entered a pact to refuse to discuss corrupt elections. If your candidate is allowed into office for not discussing the election corruption issue, is he a candidate seeking office to do the will of the people? Would you want him in office if he were allowed to win based on not holding an opinion that would expose monumental corruption across the country?

This Fourth Turning crisis is going to determine if it is indeed the people who control this country or not, or if for the sake of “our team” winning a given office, we will consent to back candidates who are pre-approved to hold office because they won’t talk about the forbidden items, which are not strictly limited to elections. Remember, Kari Lake wanted to cut the throats of the cartels destroying the lives of everyday Americans, and she paid the price by being put on the outside looking in (for now).

Personally, I am sick of hearing from candidates who tell me their local GOP cautioned them against discussing cheating in elections, even in rampant mail-in and ballot harvesting states, because it would somehow cost them their races, which they of course lost even after trying to play nice.  Here is a newsflash: You are losing your races because the other team is cheating and using your kindness against you. Last year, I endorsed a 23-year-old political neophyte from Maine named Reagan Paul, who was running for State House. Her state party didn’t care for her positions on election manipulation as she ran in a truly purple district on fixing election fraud and on a personhood amendment for the unborn…and won. She has been one of the boldest voices for liberty that can be found in an otherwise dark region of our country and had more guts than every professional politician in the state who was afraid her boldness would cost what they perceived to be a difficult seat to win. Instead, boldness took away a seat the Democrats expected to win going away.

Fortune favors the bold. That proverb was true when it was first penned in 151 B.C. and remains true to this day. People don’t want to support those who are timid and refuse to lead, like Greg Abbott, who has been in office too long to care anymore that his state is being overrun by illegal aliens and cartels, or that his Attorney General was impeached by a Republican House full of Bush lackeys and controlled opposition. They want to support leaders who exhibit moral authority and want to make the same legacy for citizens of today as the founders sought to make for theirs, and posterity.

The fight for election integrity is the only political fight that matters right now. As long as our solutions are political, which history suggests remains the case only for a limited window of time, we can have the best positions on life, borders, energy, taxation, crime, or education, and none of them matter for a hill of beans if we are not permitted to have our candidates elected because elections are corrupt.

Our entire national political future hinges on getting this issue right.

eilert

My comment on the 11 million votes increase for Trump, which nobody points out, including Trump:

In percentage terms this is an increase of whopping 17% from his first election and he supposedly still lost.
If this percentage increase instead of the 11 millions is emphasized, far more people would have been skeptical of that election and willing to do something about it.

pgroup2

Nice point. ThanQ.

Brave and Free

More disturbing news about what’s possibly in the shot and it’s cancer connection.

https://discernreport.com/green-monkey-dna-found-in-covid-19-shots/

RDS

Thank you for bringing this. It appears to be further confirmation of something that has been discussed on this board — the inclusion of SV40 in the COVID-19 “vaccines.”
The green monkey’s original habitat was in northern West Africa — areas like Senegal and Gambia. The animal then was brought to the Cape Verde islands, then to areas of the Caribbean (St. Kitts, etc.) for colonization.
Per the linked article, the investigations of Dr. McKernan and Dr. Bhakdi indicate that ALL of the COVID-19 “vaccines” contain double-stranded DNA — not just the (recently pulled off the market in the U.S.) Johnson & Johnson [Janssen] COVID-19 “vaccine.” This is different from assertions that only single-stranded DNA were used in the Pfizer-BioNTech and in the Moderna original COVID-19 “vaccines”, as for example in this article:
http://www.uspharmacist.com/article/covid-19-a-closer-look
April 16, 2021
by M. Saljoughian, PharmD, PhD
“COVID-19: A Closer Look”

It appears that Ralph Baric at UNC was interested in how African green monkeys respond to SARS-CoV. Here’s a paper of his, from 2009, that was funded by NIAID:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2838128/
published November 11, 2009
“Recombination, Reservoirs, and the Modular Spike: Mechanisms of Coronavirus Cross-Species Transmission”
Ralph Baric, et al.
Refer to “Fig. 4” in the paper.

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RAC

Still Report chats with Bill Binney

Gail Combs

Dr. Katherine Horton, Bill Binney’s wife said take the views You Tube SAYS you ad and multiply by 10X…

Now THINK

WHERE DID ALL THE EXTRA MONEY EARNED GO???

If that could ever be proved you could have a MAJOR lawsuit making the FTX scam look like peanuts.

Gail Combs

June: Pride Month becoming Shame Month?
Correct American Thinker link.

phoenixrising

Tuesday, May 30, 2023
Larry’s Excellent Piece…
 … on uniformity. 

The strength of any army is the principle of uniformity. Here is a Captain Obvious moment — the reason that a military organization sports a uniform is to ensure that troops in the heat of battle can easily identify their fellow fighters. Can you imagine an army that would grant each soldier or sailor or Marine the option to choose their own wardrobe? While you might get some fabulous fashion choices, allowing such diversity would undermine the operational effectiveness of that organization in combat. The concept of uniform in the military extends beyond what men and women wear. How about training? An effective military organization relies on standard operating procedures in order to ensure that even the least mentally competent member of a unit knows the policies, procedures and tactics he or she must perform under stress. One of the critical objectives in basic training is to teach new recruits how to communicate and how to act on orders. If a military organization incorporates different units with different methods of communicating the odds of confusion on the battlefield increase dramatically.

Read the whole thing at Larry’s blog.  

Meanwhile, Russia openly states what Washington wants:

The US has been inciting Ukraine to strike Russian territory, despite claiming the opposite, Russian Ambassador to Washington Anatoly Antonov said on Wednesday. Antonov argued that Washington’s statements in response to the recent drone raid on the Russian capital “sound like an encouragement for Ukrainian terrorists.” “Doesn’t the [US] administration understand that no one believes their slogans about non-support of Ukrainian strikes on Russian territory?!” the diplomat said, according to a statement on the embassy’s Telegram channel. Antonov’s remarks came after a White House spokesperson told reporters that “as [a] general matter, we do not support attacks inside of Russia.” The goal of the drone attack was to “sow fear among Russians” and undermine trust in the authorities, he said. “The Russian Federation has been sentenced to ‘capital punishment’ in the [West] long ago. But simply, they don’t have it in them to achieve this goal,” the ambassador stated. 

But read the last, highlighted, phrase by him–exactly, the US is not the same league and Washington knows, or at least begins to recognize it, and, as an axiom goes: terrorism is a weapon of the weak. This is how bluffs are called. In the end, they do not check the credit history in banks for nothing. Where is the US warfare credit history? You know the answer…

Gail Combs

My Ex was a basic training officer during the end of the Vietnam War. The whole idea of basic training is to take a bunch of INDIVIDUALS, whomp the individuality out of them and MAKE THEM A COHESIVE FIGHTING MACHINE.

My Ex had to get PERMISSION and a doctor’s note to have specially made foot wear for example. AND it had to be made to military standard and look like standard issue.

pat frederick

this is interesting…anyone else see this??
he personally knows rhonda?

Gail Combs

Isn’t Fluffy Dog Attack our buddy?

pat frederick

you lost me Gail…

Gail Combs

Fluffy Dog Attack I think was the teacher up in NY. He quit posting here after Trump lost 2020

He had the pet minipig and sometimes was in Florida. Darned if I can remember his posting name!

pat frederick

that’s his name!
thanks DePat!
and for more than this–you do an awesome job with the opens here!
I enjoy and repost many of your memes!

Gail Combs

THANKS!!

Cuppa Covfefe

Flepore and MuShu IIRC…

He did a tremendous amount of work and analysis before the 2016 election, and the 2020 election, which probably hit him especially hard…

Someone else I remember is NYGuy54 (like car 54 🙂 )…

I look over at CTH and don’t recognize a single name… my, how things have changed… or maybe people changed their handles…

Gail Combs

Thanks, I thought he started to lay low because he was in a NY School system.

kalbokalbs

Some may have changed handles, after they got booted.

pat frederick

OH!
THANKS!

I didn’t know him by that name!

Valerie Curren

I thought Fleporeblog, iirc, was from Michigan…

CMinTN

Fluffy Dog is Bluto.

Gail Combs

Thanks, I knew I recognized it but I thought it was Flep.

RAC

The name reminded me of that Beechboys song.
I just had a look at the lyrics, but was unable to twist them around in any good way.
However the repetitive chorus will be what he sings to his millionaire backers and script writers…

[Chorus]
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda

pat frederick

LOL
thanks…now it’ll be stuck in my head all day…

TheseTruths

Well, Rhonda you look so fine (look so fine)
And you thought it wouldn’t take much time
For you to help me, Rhonda
Help me get Trump out of my heart.

[Chorus]
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, yeah, get him out of my heart

He was gonna be POTUS and heal the land
But the Deep State came between us 
And shattered our plan.

[Chorus]
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, yeah, get him out of my heart

Well, Rhonda, you caught my eye (caught my eye)
And I thought you might be the guy
But you can’t help me, Rhonda,
Help me get him out of my heart.

[Chorus]
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, help, help me, Rhonda
Help me, Rhonda, yeah, get him out of my heart

😂🎶🎤🥁

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pat frederick

bravo!

TheseTruths

🤣

gil00

First time he’s mentioned it.

phoenixrising

He’s produce mgr at the Publix DeSantis frequents…

pat frederick

how did you ferret that info out???

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phoenixrising

I’ve known his occupation for years (researched) …

just assumed that’s the way SD ‘knows’ him … I don’t think it’s socially … (I’m being a smart a%% … there’s no love lost between me and SD … )

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phoenixrising

Hi Pat … you made me smile, thanks … hope you and hubby are well.

pat frederick