Dear KAG: 20230921 Open Thread and the Fog of War.

First prayers for  Deplorable Patriot, her Mom and her Family. May God be with all of them to support and heal them.

I am going to rely on Q tree commenters to bring the breaking news. We can start with Burning Bright’s Badlands news brief headlines. (The comments are mine.)

Badlands News Brief: A Fed, a Ukrainian & a DeSimp Walk Into a Bar …

BADLAND MEDIA HEADLINES:

Ray Epps [FINALLY] Charged With Jan. 6 Crime—After Conspiracy Theory Claimed He Worked For FBI – Snicker.

The Deep state was finally forced to do something about Epps since we would not SHUT UP so they threw us a VERY well chewed bone.

The penalty for disorderly conduct in restricted grounds is a fine, imprisonment for not longer than one year or both.

Given the circumstances and the sentences for others, I consider that an insulting slap in the face, but we shall see.

Trump Leads Biden Nationally As RealClear Asks ‘What Happened To DeSantis?’

We laughed him off the stage.

Milley & Stoltenberg Agree: ‘We Must Prepare Ourselves For A Long War In Ukraine’

Not if American citizens and Putin have anything to say about it. Besides, they are running out of Ukrainians and Europeans are as reluctant as American citizens to fight in this stupid war.

GEE What if they had a ‘war’ and no one came?

Zelensky Fires Top Defense Officials In Corruption Purge Ahead Of Washington Trip

Some at Badlands have floated the idea that Zelensky’s strings are cut and he now has a different Puppet Master named Trump.

House Subcommittee on Oversight Hearing Interviews Former Capitol Hill Police Chief Steven Sund – Outspoken Critic of Nancy Pelosi’s Failures to Secure the US Capitol on Jan. 6 – WHY ISNT THE FAKE NEWS REPORTING ON THIS?!

Also gleaned from Badlands. Zak Paine noted one of these Weathermen, Susan Rosenberg, was the vice chair of the Thousand Currents board of directors. Thousand Currents manages fundraising operations for the national arm of Black Lives Matter. Rosenberg was pardoned by Bill Clinton. Remember 4% of the money went to Act Blue.

The Weathermen I

The Weathermen II – Of Media, Money & Men

The Weathermen III – ALL4FLOYD

from the comments on the first vid-



UnapologeticChristianOG

27 weeks ago

✨Warning! Grab a pen and paper. Fricken all of this connected is INSANE! Even Ethiopia! Obama. Holden. Ayers. Kerry. 9/11. THEY PLANNED THIS A VERY LONG TIME AND THEY DIDNT THINK SHE’D LOSE. 

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Fog of War.

One of the Cabal’s favorite methods of control is rewriting history or making it completely disappear. This applies not only to history but to the rewriting of science. Recently I have run into repeated examples of this. I want to document them so examples are available.

SCIENCE REWRITTEN – These are in no particular order.

…The ice core analysis method switched from an analysis of the WHOLE SAMPLE to analysis of the CO2 left in the air bubble. This newer method gives much lower CO2 numbers. that do not agree with the older numbers or with the plant stomata data. SEE: link

This is a link that JUST WENT DEAD WHILE I WAS WRITING an ARTICLE! The March 2023 archive version

https://web.archive.org/web/20230313163218/http://www.greenworldtrust.org.uk/Science/Scientific/CO2-ice-HS.htm

Back in 2015, latitude wrote:

Latitude says:

December 23, 2015 at 8:21 pm

Gail, put this in your bookmarks…….they found the cut off was 220 ppm….not 200
I don’t know where people got the idea that it’s 150 and keep repeating that….220 stops them

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2010.03441.x/pdf

July 2010 Tansley review: Plant responses to low [CO2] of the past

However the paper NOW READS:

2. Biomass production In order to determine how physiological responses to low [CO2] manifest themselves at the whole-plant level, plants must be grown for a full generation at low [CO2]. Such studies have shown that the average biomass production of modern C3 plants is reduced by c. 50% when grown at low (180–220 ppm) vs modern (350–380 ppm) [CO2], when other conditions are optimal (Sage & Coleman, 2001; Fig. 5). There is, however, variation in this response among C3 species (Fig. 5), as well as within C3 species, whereby reductions in biomass may vary by 40–70% among genotypes (Ward & Strain, 1997; Hovenden & Schimanski, 2000; Mohan et al., 2004). In addition, as [CO2] declines to 150 ppm, biomass production may be reduced by as much as 92%, as was observed in A. theophrasti (Dippery et al., 1995; Figs 2, 5).

What is interesting is the Wayback Machine has the same paragraph BUT the earliest save is September 2019, almost a decade after the paper was written and a couple years after Latitude  pointed it out to me in a comment.

Earliest saved version:

https://web.archive.org/web/20190922060135/https://nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1469-8137.2010.03441.x

A decade ago when I first comment on this there was a Peer-reviewed paper saying C3 plants starve below 200 ppm. It was of course removed from the internet.

notice how ‘inconvenient’ data disappears from the internet. Well I followed the trail on internet censorship with COMMENTS STARTING HERE.

Speaking of people with direct knowledge, there is this comment from a guy posting at Tony Heller’s. He TRASHES the ‘conventional wisdom’ about CO2 toxicity.

Marsh says:

December 23, 2015 at 11:45 am

Gail : that’s great info, the only points I disagree with are on the upper CO2 limits.

( 2,000 ppm starts to become toxic ) most plant types can handle many times that,

tests have shown that even 50,000 ppm can be tolerated by some plant species.

http://www.co2science.org/subject/v/summaries/veryhighco2.php

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( 4,000 ppm it becomes toxic to humans ) only under adverse work conditions,

the US Navy Submariners go for many weeks at 8,000 ppm as long as O2 is sufficient.

http://www.nap.edu/read/11170/chapter/5

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I’ve worked with CO2 for many years in Hospitals ; it’s not that dangerous provided that the Oxygen saturation, has not been compromised in the area of breathing.

Then Tony Heller’s blog was attacked.

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Back Online

Posted on September 4, 2023 by tonyheller

You probably have noticed that the blog has been broken for weeks.  The previous hosting service ran out of disk space and deleted tens of thousands of image files without my permission.  They also failed to keep a backup of the site before deleting the images. Then they shut the blog down completely and sent me this message :

(you are) very illustrative of why the country so hates right-wing influencers who can’t see beyond their own grift and selfish hypocrisy”

I am now working with a respectable hosting service, but it will take some time to restore the tens of thousands of damaged blog posts.  Thanks for your patience.

I’ve been posting at realclimate.science as well.

Tony

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My Personal Troll, Mr G Edward Griffin and Rewriting History

I mentioned a few days ago that I had acquired a personal troll. Richard Courtney @ WUWT trashes the Bankster’s Troll in 2013 HERE. And then he showed up a CTH in 2018 and admitted stalking me HERE.

Why the stalking? Because I brought G. Edward Griffin and the Federal Reserve Fraud to the attention of the people at WUWT.

Most are aware of A Talk by G. Edward Griffin, Author of The Creature from Jekyll Island Since I refer to it here occasionally. Quotes from this article are what attracted the negative attention of the Troll. He used Ad hominem  to attack Griffin saying Griffin is a John Bircher. However there is a lot of other DANGEROUS information by Griffin that needed to be hidden too and I think that was the basis for the attack. Most of the information is now only available via archive.

Part 1: The Chasm The Future Is Calling (Part One) © 2003 – 2007 by G. Edward Griffin Revised 2007 September 18

…Where do we find this evidence? The first place to look is in history. The past is the key to the present, and we can never fully understand where we are today unless we know what path we traveled to get here. It was Will Durant who said: “Those who know nothing about history are doomed forever to repeat it.”

THE HIDDEN AGENDA

…the year 1954 and, suddenly, we find ourselves in the plush offices of the Ford Foundation in New York City. There are two men seated at a large, Mahogany desk, and they are talking. They cannot see or hear us, but we can see them very well. One of these men is Rowan Gaither, who was the 3 President of the Ford Foundation at that time. The other is Mr. Norman Dodd, the chief investigator for what was called the Reece Committee, which was a Congressional committee to investigate tax-exempt foundations. The Ford Foundation was one of those, so he is there as part of his Congressional responsibilities. In 1982, I met Mr. Dodd in his home state of Virginia where, at the time, I had a television crew gathering interviews for a documentary film. I previously had read his testimony and realized how important it was; so, when our crew had open time, I called him on the telephone and asked if he would be willing to make a statement before our cameras, and he said, “Of course.” I’m glad we obtained the interview when we did, because Dodd was advanced in years, and it wasn’t long afterward that he passed away. We were very fortunate to capture his story in his own words. What we are about to witness from our time machine was confirmed in minute detail twenty years later and preserved on video. The reason for Dodd’s investigation was that the American public had become alarmed by reports that large tax-exempt foundations were promoting the ideologies of Communism and Fascism and advocating the elimination of the United States as a sovereign nation. As far back as the 1930s, William Randolph Hearst had written a series of blistering editorials in his national chain of newspapers in which he cited Carnegie Foundation publications that spouted Communist slogans identical to what was coming from the Communist Party itself. When the Carnegie Endowment published an article written by Joseph Stalin attacking Capitalism and praising Communism, Hearst called it “propaganda, pure and simple.”…

This is very critical because of what Mr Griffin says later in the article.

A STRATEGY TO CONTROL THE TEACHING OF HISTORY

…The question that arises in Mr. Dodd’s mind is: How would it be possible for anyone to think they could alter life in the United States so it could be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union and, by implication, with other nations of the world? What an absurd thought that would be – especially in 1954…

The answer was provided by the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace, the same group that had been the center of controversy in the 1930s. When Dodd visited that organization and began asking about their activities, the President said, “Mr. Dodd, you have a lot of questions. It would be very tedious and time consuming for us to answer them all, so I have a counter proposal…

This is what those minutes revealed: From the very beginning, the members of the board discussed how to alter life in the United States; how to change the attitudes of Americans to give up their traditional principles and concepts of government and be more receptive to what they call the collectivist model of society

At the Carnegie Foundation board meetings, they discussed this question in a scholarly fashion. After months of deliberation, they came to the conclusion that, out of all of the options available for altering political and social attitudes, there was only one that was historically dependable. That option was war. In times of war, they reasoned, only then would people be willing to give up things they cherish in return for the desperate need and desire for security against a deadly enemy. And so the Carnegie Endowment Fund for International Peace declared in its minutes that it must do whatever it can to bring the United States into war. They also said there were other actions needed, and these were their exact words: “We must control education in the United States.” They realized that was a pretty big order, so they teamed up with the Rockefeller Foundation and the Guggenheim Foundation to pool their financial resources to control education in America in particular, to control the teaching of history. They assigned those areas of responsibility that involved issues relating to domestic affairs to the Rockefeller Foundation, and those issues relating to international affairs were taken on as the responsibility of the Carnegie Endowment. Their first goal was to rewrite the history books, and they discussed at great length how to do that. They approached some of the more prominent historians of the time and presented to them the proposal that they rewrite history to favor the concept of collectivism, but they were turned down flat. Then they decided – and, again, these are their own words, “We must create our own stable of historians.” They selected twenty candidates at the university level who were seeking doctorates in American History. Then they went to the Guggenheim Foundation and said, “Would you grant fellowships to candidates selected by us, who are of the right frame of mind, those who see the value of collectivism as we do? Would you help them to obtain their doctorates so we can then propel them into positions of prominence and leadership in the academic world?” And the answer was “Yes.” So they gathered a list of young men who were seeking their doctorate degrees. They interviewed them, analyzed their attitudes, and chose the twenty they thought were best suited for their purpose. They sent them to London for a briefing. (In a moment I will explain why London is so significant.) At this meeting, they were told what would be expected if and when they win the doctorates they were seeking. They were told they would have to view history, write history, and teach history from the perspective that collectivism was a positive force in the world and was the wave of the future….

I think you can see why that information would be dangerous to the Cabal at that time. Now they are open about rewriting history.

Most recent version of Part 1: The Chasm – LINK

Part 2: Secret Organizations and Hidden Agendas

Part 3: Days of Infamy — This is about various historic false flags.

Part 4: The War on Terrorism

So there are a few meaty bones for the Q Treepers to chew on.

Dear KAG: 20230920 Open Thread

Cover image: Petrified Forest National Park, Arizona

Badlands News Brief – September 19, 2023

London taxpayers attack surveillance vans in continued revolt

Early DeSantis Donor Backs Down, Blasts ‘Unclear’ Campaign

Has the Deep State lost its edge, or is the bench really that weak.

DeSantis Fundraises With RINO Impeachment Donor Who Works as Foreign Agent

True colors are hard to miss right now.

People with Neanderthal genes are TWICE as likely to develop a life-threatening form of Covid … here’s how you can check if you’ve got them

The Daily Mail and their headlines.

CDC Admits: Vast Majority of those hospitalized for COVID are jabbed

Voter Registration Charities: A Massive, Overlooked Scandal

Symbolic Opposition vs. Effective Political Action

The Continuing Cultural Revolution

‘Abandoned by the Democratic Party’: Behind the UAW’s frustrations with Biden

Progress.

Blowing the COVID Cover-up Wide Open

Liberals blast NBC News, Kristen Welker for ‘normalizing’ Trump on ‘Meet the Press:’ ‘Dangerous journalism’

Oops.

Male crowned homecoming queen, beating out four other girls in Missouri school

Kansas City area where everything is up to date.

When God is Silent

Ray Epps Hit With Weak Misdemeanor So DOJ Can Pretend to Do Its Job

Mark Levin names them: here are the five “cabal” members who hijacked the DOJ…

Not just birds and whales: Windmills threatening extinction for jaguars and pumas in Brazil

Tweets, X-Posts, Whatever

You all know really weird shit has been going down for awhile now, right?

The fix was in on that Hunter Biden plea deal.

Until suddenly…it WASN’T.

Hunter was walking away scott free.

What happened? Who blew their fix?

Even if you’re going to buy the coming spin that Weiss is going to make multiple indictments against Hunter Biden in multiple districts on gun, tax and FARA crimes in order to PROTECT HIM and the Biden Crime Family, might I point out the best way to protect the Biden Crime family is NOT TO INVESTIGATE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE?

Why is this this stuff still moving forward? Why Garland end all of this 3 years ago? What would have prevented him? What prevents him from doing it now?

Why is Mockingbird Media suddenly having to prepare its audience for more Hunter indictments in DC and CA?

Watch the same Mockingbird Media/Con Inc. “News” Media outlets who’ve been leaking and selling you utter shit about the Hunter Biden case flip on a dime from talking about the ‘sweetheart deal’ Weiss was supposedly gifting Hunter with to loudly yelling “Holy shit, somebody get this Weiss guy under control, stat!”

You all know the fix was in on the Ken Paxton impeachment down there in Texas too, right? I mean, I don’t have to spell out the obvious, do I?

Paxton was as good as gone. It was a done deal.

Until somehow the deal got undone.

I heard the reports about the screaming matches that could be heard behind the closed doors before the final votes on the impeachment charges.

Their fix was in for removing Paxton.

Until suddenly…it WASN’T.

If the Deep State had total and complete control like many people think it does, none of what you saw in that Texas impeachment or Hunter Biden case should be happening right now.

The detailed scripts as to how events were to unfold were written. But then somehow the script keeps being altered.

You know who’s doing that?

Who keeps blowing up their scripts?

YOU ARE DOING THAT.

YOU ARE MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

The more people that wake up and start paying attention and start speaking up, the more the tide turns in our favor.

Events literally get away from them. They are forced into retreat and then damage control.

Whistleblowers come forward, Evidence is revealed that establishes the Biden Crime Family’s corruption. [Or in the case of Paxton – a complete lack of evidence is what is revealed, leading to Paxton’s acquittal!]

You are changing things with SUNLIGHT. The Corrupt can only fulfill their rotten scripts in the darkness.

The more people shine the light and pushback and speak up against these lovers of the dark, the more they become disorganized, confused and out of step.

YOU ARE WINNING.

Don’t listen to those who spin every damn thing that happens as another bitter black pill trap where they’re just setting us all up but we’re too dumb to see it.

KEEP FIGHTING.

KEEP SHINING THE LIGHT.

KEEP WAKING UP OTHERS, AND HELPING THEM TO SPEAK.

The stakes could not be higher, and we went through a really rough couple of years but I truly believe we turned the corner awhile back and what is coming is unstoppable, because it is the Truth.

And people who have devoted their lives to hiding and obscuring and lying about the truth on the issues that matter the most will in the end collapse from their own bitter exhaustion because the truths we spoke outshined their increasingly desperate and obvious lies.

They literally cannot keep up with us and we grow more numerous by the day.

Every kinetic war lasts longer than the people fighting it on the front lines wanted it to. An information war is no different.

We fight for the truth for as long as it takes. And as we continue to fight for and with the truth, we’ll continue to see strange things going on. We’ll see confidently written scripts fall apart. We’ll see justice at last, if we faint not.

In the end we’ll see The Dragon. And we’ll help God cast him down into Hell where his minions dwell.

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https://twitter.com/Enezator/status/1704223842674037114

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

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LUKE 9:23-26

23And he said to all, “If any man would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross daily and follow me. 24For whoever would save his life will lose it; and whoever loses his life for my sake, he will save it. 25For what does it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses or forfeits himself? 26For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words, of him will the Son of man be ashamed when he comes in his glory and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels.

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And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

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