2024·07·13 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson
Pinging you on January 6 Tapes

Just a friendly reminder Speaker Johnson. You’re doing some good things–or at least trying in the case of the budget–but this is the most important thing out there still hanging. One initial block released with the promise of more…and?

We have American patriots being held without bail and without trial, and the tapes almost certainly contain exculpatory evidence. (And if they don’t, and we’re all just yelling in an echo chamber over here, we need to know that too. And there’s only one way to know.)

Either we have a weaponized, corrupt government or we have a lot of internet charlatans. Let’s expose whatever it is. (I’m betting it’s the corrupt weaponized government, but if I am wrong, I’d like to see proof.)

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Small Government?

Many times conservatives (real and fake) speak of “small government” being the goal.

This sounds good, and mostly is good, but it misses the essential point. The important thing here isn’t the size, but rather the purpose, of government. We could have a cheap, small tyranny. After all our government spends most of its revenue on payments to individuals and foreign aid, neither of which is part of the tyrannical apparatus trying to keep us locked down and censored. What parts of the government would be necessary for a tyranny? It’d be a lot smaller than what we have now. We could shrink the government and nevertheless find it more tyrannical than it is today.

No, what we want is a limited government, limited not in size, but rather in scope. Limited, that is, in what it’s allowed to do. Under current circumstances, such a government would also be much smaller, but that’s a side effect. If we were in a World War II sort of war, an existential fight against nasty dictatorships on the brink of world conquest, that would be very expensive and would require a gargantuan government, but that would be what the government should be doing. That would be a large, but still limited government, since it’d be working to protect our rights.

World War II would have been the wrong time to squawk about “small government,” but it wasn’t (and never is) a bad time to demand limited government. Today would be a better time to ask for a small government–at least the job it should be doing is small today–but it misses the essential point; we want government to not do certain things. Many of those things we don’t want it doing are expensive but many of them are quite eminently doable by a smaller government than the one we have today. Small, but still exceeding proper limits.

So be careful what you ask for. You might get it and find you asked for the wrong thing.

Political Science In Summation

It’s really just a matter of people who can’t be happy unless they control others…versus those who want to be left alone. The oldest conflict within mankind. Government is necessary, but government attracts the assholes (a highly technical term for the control freaks).

His Truth?

Again we saw an instance of “It might be true for Billy, but it’s not true for Bob” logic this week.

I hear this often, and it’s usually harmless. As when it’s describing differing circumstances, not different facts. “Housing is unaffordable” can be true for one person, but not for another who makes ten times as much.

But sometimes the speaker means it literally. Something like 2+2=4 is asserted to be true for Billy but not for Bob. (And when it’s literal, it’s usually Bob saying it.) And in that sense, it’s nonsense, dangerous nonsense. There is ONE reality, and it exists independent of our desires and our perceptions. It would go on existing if we weren’t here. We exist in it. It does not exist in our heads. It’s not a personal construct, and it isn’t a social construct. If there were no society, reality would continue to be what it is, it wouldn’t vanish…which it would have to do, if it were a social construct.

Now what can change from person to person is the perception of reality. We see that all the time. And people will, of course, act on those perceptions. They will vote for Trump (or try to) if their perception is close to mine, and vote against Trump (and certainly succeed at doing so) if their perception is distant from mine (and therefore, if I do say so, wrong). I have heard people say “perception is reality” and usually, that’s what they’re trying to say–your perception of reality is, as far as you know, an accurate representation of reality, or you’d change it.

But I really wish they’d say it differently. And sometimes, to get back to Billy and Bob, the person who says they have different truths is really saying they have different perceptions of reality–different worldviews. I can’t argue with the latter. But I sure wish they’d say it better. That way I’d know that someone who blabbers about two different truths is delusional and not worth my time, at least not until he passes kindergarten-level metaphysics on his umpteenth attempt.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

(Paper) Spot Prices

Kitco “Ask” prices. Last week:

Gold $2,389.60
Silver $31.16
Platinum $1,038.00
Palladium $1,064.00
Rhodium $5,025.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,411.60
Silver $30.84
Platinum $1011.00
Palladium $992.00
Rhodium $4,950.00

Gold was over 2,420 on Thursday, and drew back a bit on Friday, still up for the week. Silver a bit down. Palladium took a beating Friday and is now lower than platinum. Both are down for the week any way you cut it.

I need to make a technical comment. The modern run of bullion coins, things like the Canadian Maple Leaf and American Eagle (and many others) are indeed coins because they have denominations on them. The denominations are absurd; the one ounce eagle has a $50 face value. (If anyone ever spends one of these things at face value, I hope I am the one who reaps the benefit of his/her ignorance.) But they will also state their gold content in either grams or troy ounces (a troy ounce is 31.1035 grams or 480 reloading-bench grains).

What can cause some confusion (and did last weekend) is that the coins are often stated as having that much “pure gold” in them, but that doesn’t mean they are made of pure gold. The Canadian Maple Leaf tries for ridiculous purity, less than 1 part per 10000 is something other than gold. Our gold eagle is 91.67 percent pure (22 kt) (with the balance made up of 3 percentage points silver and 5.13 of copper), so it isn’t made of pure gold, but it still contains an ounce of gold; if you removed the other stuff, you would indeed have an ounce of pure gold. They do this, of course, by making the coin weigh more than an ounce.

(Frankly going to eyestraining purity strikes me as a stunt. No one really cares if the coin is absolutely pure; they’re interested in the net weight of precious metal. In fact high purity can have negative consequences as a pure gold coin is soft enough that it might get a ding in it if you give it a harsh look.)

When it’s not absolutely pure, of course, you have to be sure how much gold (or whatever precious metal) is in the coin. There is a big catalog of coins from around the world (the size of a very thick telephone book, and that’s just one century’s worth), generally called Krause after the publisher, and for coins with silver, gold, or other precious content they will give the weight of the coin in grams, then the purity as a decimal fraction, then “ASW” or “AGW” or “APW” for “actual silver weight”, etc. That last number is the actual content of precious metal. Collectors typically just follow that custom when labeling their foreign coins; coin shops will do so to entice people to buy the coin for the metal content if nothing else.

Anyhow the bullion coins, regardless of whether they are pure, will have some nice round number of either troy ounces (over here) or grams (over there in Europe/Asia) of precious metal in them. (Sometimes “over there” will do something in troy ounces, too.)

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pgroup2

Come on, Silver. Get up and go up!

$50 or bust!

cthulhu

Isn’t that supposed to be, “Hi-yo, Silver! Away!”?

pgroup2

Just trying to adjust to the environment.

TheseTruths

Jason Willick:

Trump brief in Alvin Bragg case suggests SCOTUS immunity opinion might even blow up E. Jean Carroll verdict.

Jeff Clark:

As the DOJ leader in charge of defending the E Jean Carroll suit before the Biden DOJ decided — after initially agreeing with me when they came into office in 2021 — to change course after they were lobbied, I can say I agree with this.

President Trump should be immune from that suit because it’s based on statements he made while President that are part of his broad powers to speak to the American people, as recognized in Trump v U.S.

Sadly for Carroll and her lawyers, legal “thinkers” like George Conway, who was involved in engineering the suit, didn’t think carefully about presidential immunity before launching that case.

And the Biden Administration was wrong to change course.

By the way, it was the historic position of the Civil Division at DOJ that I helmed to defend a lawsuit like that. It’s the Biden/Garland DOJ that broke with that tradition.

I’m not sure exactly what Trump remarks this refers to, but I hope the case does blow up.

scott467

“Sadly for Carroll and her lawyers, legal “thinkers” like George Conway,”

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More of a legal ‘stinker’, really.

This is the same guy who threw away his marriage over TDS, isn’t it?

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And helped destroy his own daughter in the process!

cthulhu

A Prince among men!

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Cuck the fommies!

TradeBait2

Should happen. Doubt it will.

The GOP will send a sternly worded letter first. Then when forced to vote, the RINO’s will pull it out for the Dems.

Rinse and repeat.

Until American citizens in blue and swing states wake up and recognize they are being screwed, get active in going after the perps, and make the necessary changes it will be as it is.

TheseTruths

I can’t vouch for this but am reporting what Roger Stone is saying.

Roger Stone:

My sources confirm everything here is correct…

“Black Insurrectionist”:

I just hung up with my friend who works in D.C. The guy who has nailed everything and given me inside scoops for months that have led to viral tweets, correct predictions and he has not been wrong yet. Not sure if I should post this, but:

Jill Biden is running the country right now.

Joe Biden is sleeping up to 16 hrs. per day.

The Biden and Obama family rift has now blown fully open and any aides loyal to Obama are going to get canned.

Obama is going to try and force Joe out. Obama is meeting privately with power players to get them to withdraw funding.

Hollywood will begin to turn on Biden via Obama is telling them.

Democrats are making decertification plans in case of a Trump win.

Deals are being attempted with some republicans right now to turn on Trump.

A full-blown civil war in the DNC and an attempt to make sure Trump does not get elected at any cost is now happening. Many in D.C. are already saying that the Biden family has completely obliterated the constitution with how they are running the country.

Obama has the CIA and NSA in his corner. Bad news for Biden. The Biden family has cut Joe Biden off to anyone other than a few close people.

The Hur tapes are completely different than the transcription. The desperation to keep them is because apparently Joe Biden had full blown Dementia during most of that interview and some are saying the transcripts are in fact, doctored. I was even warned that I probably should not post this, but the hell with it, I hate the DNC, I hate democrats. The quicker we get rid of the democratic party the better off we all will be. But that includes getting rid of the GOP. Both parties suck.

Anyway, last night press conference did nothing, there is a full court press to get rid of Joe Biden and it is intensifying, watch for leaks to the press about Joe Biden and things that are happening behind the scenes. If the Hur tapes come out, it will be the end of Biden for sure and will lead to prosecutions because of the doctoring of the transcriptions. Internal polling has been disastrous. Many saying Biden has no path to win and if he were to win, the country would go up in flames. Crazy times we live in.

pgroup2

The quicker we get rid of the democratic party the better off we all will be. But that includes getting rid of the GOP. 

Well, Roger sure won’t be speaking at the GOP convention.

TheseTruths

MAGA all the way. The good-old-boys parties do not serve America.

TradeBait2

^^^ This.

Let’s go with a couple of guys named James.

James Monroe

“Surely our government will go on and prosper without the existence of parties. I have always considered their existence as the curse of the country.”

We are seeing what happens when that is not the case.

James Madison

“The future and success of America is not in this Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which this Constitution is founded.”

Since he was there and considered the “Father of the Constitution” when it was drafted and voted into law he ought to know, right? Maybe we should try something different than this secular bull shiz they have been doing.

“Democracy is the most vile form of government.”

Yup, let’s go with the representative republic we actually are.

“Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace.”

Welp, two thirds of the way there with constant attacks on the last one.

“Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.”

One right after the other, stressing the system.

“The purpose of the Constitution is to restrict the majority’s ability to harm a minority.”

Which is why they ignore it at every opportunity and only comply years later when the legal system that delays SCOTUS from responding has enough time to do the intended damage.

“If man is not fit to govern himself, how can he be fit to govern someone else?”

That horse left the barn not long after Madison departed the scene.

“We are free today substantially, but the day will come when our Republic will be an impossibility. It will be an impossibility because wealth will be concentrated in the hands of a few. A Republic cannot stand upon bayonets, and when the day comes when the wealth of the nation will be in the hands of a few, then we must rely upon the wisdom of the best elements in the country to readjust the laws of the nations to the changed conditions.”

And here we are today…

“If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.”

Russia, Russia, Russia.

“Armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.”

See above. Add Ukraine.

“A President is impeachable if he attempts to subvert the Constitution.”

Well, no, not today he isn’t. He’s impeachable if he fulfills its requirements.

“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

🤣🤣🤣 Define benevolence.

“It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.”

Ever read anything in the Federal Register? Can you imagine a dindonuffin understanding the first word it?

I could go on and on about how far we have strayed, but that is enough for the day. Remind your elected officials of these truths every single day that you can work it into your schedules. Pray daily to the God that this nation is founded upon to save us from ourselves.

Gail Combs

10 LAWS and 1,000 regulations should be REPEALED for every new law that is past.

AND the people get to CHOOSE what laws and regs are removed…

pgroup2

I prefer Melei’s approach.

cthulhu

How about the American version — for every law that is passed, 100 bureaucrats get chainsawed.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_cool:  I would certainly agreed to that!

TheseTruths

Great post!

scott467

“I was even warned that I probably should not post this, but the hell with it, I hate the DNC, I hate democrats.”

😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen!

scott467

“The quicker we get rid of the democratic party the better off we all will be. But that includes getting rid of the GOP. Both parties suck.”

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That’s because they’re just one big Uni-Party 👍

Barb Meier

So if the current parties both go away, we have the MAGA party to replace Republicans. What on Earth can be sane enough to replace the Democrat party? We are so accustomed to two parties and I like that much better than some nations that have four or more parties. Then you end up with Macron partnering with the communists to keep his own power. And that sucks.

scott467

“If the Hur tapes come out, it will be the end of Biden for sure and will lead to prosecutions because of the doctoring of the transcriptions.”

____________

Oh come on, this is Big Time Wrastlin’.

Nothing is the end of anything 🤣

para59r

Well, if the Hur Tapes will end Biden, seems the dems should revisit with Anna Paulina Luna, and vote in favor of a controlled demolition that will set Merrick Garland’s house on fire, which will then leave Biden’s flank wide open long enough to make him run for the hills after which they can attempt to mitigate by closing ranks around the DOJ again and blame Republicans for driving out Joe. 🤔🙄😏😆

pgroup2

You get the Run On Sentence award for 2024.

TheseTruths

Technically It is grammatically correct and doesn’t fit the definition of a run-on unless you mean, “My, para, how you do run on!” 😅 But I like the sentence.

https://www.grammarly.com/blog/run-on-sentence-basics/

pgroup2

I was unaware that ‘run on sentence’ had an error component.

I thought it was just a sentence that could benefit from a few periods and capital letters.

 🤔 

para59r

I draw my inspiration from such by reading seriously out of date books where in you could get up and fetch a cup of coffee and the sentence would still be going and if your waiting for the paragraph to end, heck you can go get lunch and it will still not have appeared by the time you get back. 😁

pgroup2

I hesitated, suspecting I might be starting a subthread.  😂 

kalbokalbs

🙃

scott467

“Many saying Biden has no path to win and if he were to win, the country would go up in flames.”

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We’re already the United States of Dumpster Fire 😂

Robert Baker

Starting to look like history is making a rhythm with the 1968 campaign. I thought a lot more of Humprey than I do of Biden. The convention is even in Chicago again. All that needs to happen now is the sitting President decides not to run.

pgroup2

Are you being prescient? I suspect so.

Aubergine

I read this yesterday. I think it is all true.

Robert Baker

“Black Insurrectionist”:

Reminds me of White Russians and Red Russians. Prelude to civil war? Last time it was the North and the South. This time will it be Black against ???.

TheseTruths

I suspect it’s a stab at J6ers and the like being called insurrectionists, and this person is also highlighting race, a double whammy. But yes, the Left would love nothing better than to have a race war. Thankfully, their tactics are turning some black people away.

TheseTruths

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scott467

Looks like Pelosi came straight from her recent appearance as an extra in The Walking Dead.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

TheseTruths

Delta Airlines creates new uniform policy BANNING crew from wearing all flag pins except for the U.S. flag.

According to the new policy, effective July 15th:

“We are limiting the display of all nationality/country flag pins on Delta uniforms, with the exception of the official US flag, effective Monday, July 15, 2024.”

It comes after 2 flight attendants were photographed wearing Palestine flag pins on board, sparking outrage online.

Delta did not take any disciplinary action against the employees.

pgroup2

Two more reasons I won’t ever fly again. And it ain’t about the flag pins.

scott467

“t comes after 2 flight attendants were photographed wearing Palestine flag pins on board, sparking outrage online.”

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Stewardesses?

I wouldn’t fly on a plane where people who have access to… well, anything really, are Palestinian terrorists or supporters of same.

TheseTruths

The problem is that we have no way of knowing unless they tell us.

mollypitcher5

My experience might not be the norm but for the last couple of years every flight I’ve been on the attendants have the same facial expressions as these two. They act like the passengers crammed in like sardines should be aware of their superior status (whatever) and be forever grateful for their labor intensive (whatever) beverage service.

Give me the old style stereotypical pretty smiling stewardess instead of snarly, abrupt, fat, old, lots of flaming gays, snooty , etc, etc cabin crew with or without their virtue signaling pins.

kalbokalbs

Yea, airlines are infested with freaks – staff and passengers.

Compounding that, TSA and goofs running the airports.

Easily remedied.

Interstates are awesome.

Gail Combs

As soon as the TSA was instituted I QUIT FLYING PERIOD!

pgroup2

You said it so much more elegantly than I did.  😍 

TheseTruths

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Hope so.

pgroup2

A two-fer.

scott467

Don’t tease me, bro 🤣

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Their terms are acceptable!

RAC

Get it now before the offer closes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!!

cthulhu

Pssst! You’re not supposed to say “goes down” anywhere near Kamala!!!

Charlie

Add BO to that!

kalbokalbs

Flaming Action Hoe, Taco Jill will go out flaming as many as possible.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Maybe Taco Jill wants to be POTUS on the ticket, with Original Hoe as VP! That would be an awesome crash and burn!

kalbokalbs

More than ever, we need those tapes. Everyone who heard them Is A Traitor.

TheseTruths

I’ve been thinking this and am just going to say it: Any ticket with two women is a crash and burn, IMO. I can think of few worse fates for America than to have any combination of these and other women running the country:

Kamala Harris
Gretchen Whitmer
Hillary Clinton
Stacey Abrams
Michelle Obama
Jill Biden

The cackling, the pettiness, the abuse of their staffs, the lack of sound decision-making ability, the lack of self-awareness, the failure to grasp the consequences of their decisions, the warped world view, and of course the woke ideology and leftist policies, would provide one of the quickest ways to finish off America.

kalbokalbs

And the bag of shit, IIRC, Klobuchar, had her staffee shave her legs under the desk.

On the flip side, Kari is good to go. Prolly another conservative gal or two out there.

mollypitcher5

Eww Klobuchar…that’s gross

pgroup2

Why would that ‘staffee’ do it?

The response should have been ‘I resign’.

kalbokalbs

Why? Intimidated, I guess.

Resign? Nope.

Can’t recall the details. Had to have been witnesses.

For openers, GFY. is certainly on the table.

Barb Meier

Bing, bing, bing… my first thought was “Go f yourself.” 😅 😅 😅

Charlie

arrested for crimes against humanity AND elder abuse

Aubergine

Would anybody doubt that if anyone knows for sure, and has the evidence to prove that Michelle Obama is a man, it’s Joe and/or “doctor” Jill Biden?

It’s not the sexual orientation that’s the problem. It’s the lying and covering up that would destroy the Obama legacy, such as it is.

kalbokalbs

Let the destruction begin.

LOLF if Taco Jill takes a flamethrower, to the hussein legacy of lies.

Robert Baker

The Obama advantage is that Joe is not even close to a credible news source and has trouble even stringing a coherent lie together.

Aubergine

His wife will leak it to a credible source, with evidence, if it happens.

Robert Baker

I expect Jill would take the money offered to forego the blackmail. It is easier to spend cash than adoration.

Aubergine

Some personality disorders really require the adoration, however.

kalbokalbs

Taco Jill has for action. They can all go down in flames.

TheseTruths

Having proof of Michelle’s being a man would be a major ace in the hole. I would think the Obamas would be a little more wary than they are, knowing that someone had that. I do not think she is a man but if she is, I would love for that speculation to be put to rest.

singingsoul1

Maybe she is an It ? 😂

mollypitcher5

To me her/his? gender seek and reveal is a trap right now. If.MAGA or worse, MAGA pretenders use it as a flame thrower it’s only going to be a distraction that everyone digs their heels in. It’s not important right now

I suppose if the Biden loyalists toss it out there with proof that could be an advantage but due to the lying. Going down a morality path at this time probably isn’t the way to go, imo

Robert Baker

If they promote Michelle to Admiral, I can’t imagine there will be any scandal.

mollypitcher5

LOL…not a hint of scandal

mollypitcher5

PS~~~ I noticed that Aubergine basically already said this. Sorry, didn’t see it when I commented.

singingsoul1

Lying always comes back one way or the other. Obama has much dirt in his closet .
Michel has something to hide maybe coverup about her husband. I do not care if she/ he is Michel or Michael. He personality is in question her ethical compass also.

mollypitcher5

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Aubergine

Yes, it’s the lies I care about.

eilert

And the Klintoons too.

kalbokalbs

Looking like Briben will be booted from 2024 run.

Hoe? Trashed or lead the ticket.

Blacks, even though Hoe is Not Black AND women will be hugely displeased.

Can D-Rats steal the election with Hoe in the lead position.

TheseTruths

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scott467

I just love it, DJT makes me grin and laugh 👍😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Do it for President Putin of Ukraine, and Vice President Trump!

pgroup2

You are having too much fun today!   :wpds_grin:   :wpds_mrgreen:   :wpds_twisted:   :wpds_razz: 

TheseTruths

“For the good of the country” is a master stroke. Who could argue with that?

TheseTruths

https://apnews.com/article/peter-navarro-trump-rnc-3d7bc64a3a578f09d36ea6b6d4ce04c5

Former White House trade advisor Peter Navarro, who is currently in jail on contempt of Congress charges, is expected to speak at next week’s Republican National Convention just hours after his release.

That’s according to two people familiar with the event’s schedule who spoke on condition of anonymity to share details before they were formally announced. 

Navarro is set to be released from a Miami prison on Wednesday, July 17, according to the Federal Bureau of Prisons’ online database of current inmates. That would give him just enough time to board a plane and make it to Milwaukee before the convention wraps Thursday.

cthulhu

Just watch, they’ll slow-walk his release just to be petty bastards.

TheseTruths

I wouldn’t put it past them!

Gail Combs

And POTUS Trump will make sure Dr Navarro has a ride waiting for him.

pgroup2

He shouldn’t have to board just “a” plane; it should be Trump Force One.

kalbokalbs

Navarro won’t be on a commercial flight.

Trump One or another America First sponsored AC will be made available.

TheseTruths
cthulhu

With drug tests? NFW!

pgroup2

That’s because most cashiers at Home Depot actually know what they’re doing.

scott467

It’s not a suggestion, it’s just obvious.

There’s no actual controversy there.

Robert Baker

It seems that it is a reasonable assumption that Jon does not frequent Home Depot.

Charlie

Lively dancing. Man who can dance like this with a cane?

Gail Combs

four years ago: Q&A with multitalented Roland Parijs 

Multitalented Roland Parijs loves to dance and speaks/writes many languages, also is an experienced system administrator with a history of working in the education sector. Proficient in MS Window Server, Programming, Research, Windows 7, System Management and Active Directory. He’s also an Arabic and Chinese translator and calligrapher. Graphic designer, painting artist and passionate dancer (Lindy Hop, Swing, Rock and Roll dance). “In my view a life well lived is a life in which you can make other people happy. I love to see people smiling when I am dancing, it makes me very happy.”  

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Barb Meier

Thanks for bringing this, Gail!

Gail Combs

😉

cthulhu

On the tech side of things, I got my openwrt router booted and changed its password, and decided I didn’t want to try and configure it (a) in a place I had to stand and (b) on a laptop whose 11″ screen is at some super-high resolution, so I can’t easily read it. I’ll configure it in here.

I had a tinybox server with 16G internal storage that I had previously loaded with Linux and bricked doing a version upgrade because the storage was insufficient to keep the old and the new at the same time. I decided that I’d try to run it off of a 128G thumbdrive, which seems to be working, albeit slowly. I decided I’d just go with the thumbdrive as ext4, which is a journaling filesystem, despite this eating into the lifespan of flash memory devices, because its system device is, after all, just a thumbdrive — which I can easily replace.

Happy go lucky

Woot! It’s the weekend! Happy Saturday everyone!

I saw a Tesla truck on the highway today. I was surprised how it gave me quite a shock, actually, very unnerving and I would not have expected that reaction. I’m not looking forward to a future with militaristic auto designs.

pgroup2

I don’t see militaristic; I see minimalistic comic book.

I do agree that it is a startling thing to behold.

Aubergine

I hate them. I like these:

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pgroup2

Back when Chevy was a brand.

RAC

“Elon Musk donated a large sum to Donald Trump, Bloomberg writes, citing sources.

The world’s richest man has reportedly contributed a “significant amount” to one of Trump’s campaign funds.

The publication also writes that Republican billionaires Ken Griffin and Paul Singer met with Trump on this issue. But what they agreed on is unknown.”

https://t.me/intelslava/62934

scott467

It wouldn’t surprise me at all if DJT raises ten times whatever the previous record is. People who understand the consequences, and who have great wealth, and who are not part of the insane clown posse Leftist cabal, have nothing to gain by holding back — and everything to lose.

Meanwhile, if FJB remains the candidate, he won’t even be able to raise cab fare 😂🤣😂

Charlie

A man was discussing the Chilean gangs roaming and robbing Country Clubs, homes in their area. “We need more police presence!” WHAT?
They voted in the politicians that gave us Defund the Police, open boarders et al.
Now they need police protection??? They should get their ballot shredded!

mollypitcher5

It’s not more police presence they need. They need the Chilean gangs gone. Do they really think having more police officers will curb organized home invasion gangs? That’s a pipe dream.
The invaders are the problem not the amount of cops.

pgroup2

SlowJoe will just sign an executive order that imposes a “10% for the big guy” surcharge on any company that fails to donate voluntarily.

Brave and Free

Thanks for the information Steve.

kalbokalbs

Steve, Technical comment hugely appreciated. Last week, I had made a couple incorrect conclusions. Technical comment above, makes it all easily understood. Thank you!

RAC

Good argument put forward there for counteracting the cultists.

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Gail Combs

Jo Nova is very good when it comes to the Info Wars.

PAVACA

IT APPEARS THAT DR. ROBERT REDFIELD IS TRYING FOR A TOTAL CYA. NOPE. NO DICE.

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/07/13/mandating-covid-shots-one-of-the-greatest-mistakes-former-cdc-chief-says/
Yours Truly: Dr. Robert Redfield, who was head of the CDC in 2020, testified before a Senate committee on Thursday, two days ago. Dr. Redfield stated that the COVID-19 “vaccines” are “toxic” and “should not have been mandated.” He said a lot of other things, too, like: pausing Gain-of-Function research; that the FDA should release all the safety data about these “vaccines”; and more.

Yours Truly’s “BS Meter” was on 12 on a scale of 1 – 10 regarding Dr. Redfield’s testimony. IMO, his testimony smelled a lot like “CYA TIME.”
Dr. Redfield, as head of the CDC in 2020, signed off on the CDC’s ACIP committee recommendation for the use of the Pfizer-BioNTech “flagship” modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine”, BNT162b2, to be used in the United States, on 12 December 2020. This was one day after the FDA granted this EUA (11 December 2020.)

And NOW Dr. Redfield is trying to walk that back? WHEN HE DIDN’T DO HIS JOB REGARDING DUE DILIGENCE IN DECEMBER 2020 AND DEMAND MORE DATA, DETAILED DATA ANALYSIS, AND FURTHER TESTING OF BNT162b2??
Here’s his 13 December 2020 statement:

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https://archive.cdc.gov/www_cdc_gov/media/releases/2020/s1213-covid-vaccine.html
Note he makes it clear that he’s “proud” to have signed off on the EUA.

Question for Dr. Redfield: With all due respect, Dr. Redfield, are you also “proud” of the COVID-19 modRNA “vaccine”-induced damages, illnesses, disabilities, and deaths, that BNT162b2 caused since December 2020?

Oh, yes, and who was Commissioner of the FDA in December 2020? — Dr. Stephen Hahn. Did Dr. Hahn do HIS due diligence and ALSO demand more data, detailed data analysis, and further testing of BNt162b2? NOPE. Instead, Dr. Hahn went with the FDA’s VRBPAC committee’s 11 December 2020 recommendation for granting an EUA for BNT162b2 to be used in the United States.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/fda-authorizes-1st-covid-19-vaccine-united-states/story?id=74665712

Were Dr. Redfield and Dr. Hahn also, along with then-President Trump, the victims of the intentional withholding of important information about BNT162b2 that was done by Dr. Fauci, Dr. Birx, and others, prior to December 2020? And now Dr. Redfield knows the truth and is “coming clean”? What about Dr. Hahn?

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TheseTruths

Hold ’em accountable!

PAVACA

TheseTruths
Agreed.
One would not be surprised to see that the above archived CDC link to Dr. Redfield’s December 2020 statement is somehow “disappeared” off the CDC archived documents listings.
It is already very difficult to find Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers documents related to EARLIER versions of BNT162b2. It appears that many of these have been quietly “disappeared” off the internet.

AND — here’s perhaps one reason why this “disappearing act” is being done:
https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=15623
is the Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for COMIRNATY, the “FDA-approved” earlier version of BNT162b2 as of August 2021. (This entire situation was a real “hat trick” by the FDA — COMIRNATY, while the agency “approved” it for use in the United States, WAS NOT USED IN THE UNITED STATES. The UNITED STATES version, called “Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine”, WAS USED. However — this product and COMIRNATY WERE THE EXACT SAME THING. The difference was that the “Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine”, since the FDA KEPT IT UNDER EUA, could NOT be held liable for any “vaccine”-induced injury, illness, disability, or death; whereas COMIRNATY, since it was “FDA-approved”, could be held liable.)
Here is a screenshot from the link above.
Notice the Section 13 Nonclinical Toxicology statement.

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Now, look at the following Fact Sheet for Healthcare Providers for the Pfizer-BioNTech “2023-2024 Formula COVID-19 Vaccine”, page 39:
http://www.fda.gov/media/167211/download
THERE IS NO SECTION 13 IN THIS DOCUMENT. IT WAS REMOVED.

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TradeBait2

The old boy is trying to rationalize and minimize his role in the destruction of humanity.

PAVACA

TradeBait2
Janet Woodcock, MD, was Acting Commissioner of the FDA in August 2021. IMO, ** someone ** told her to get Section 13 removed from the August 2021 Sheet for BNT162B2 linked above.

duchess01

Verse of the Day for Saturday, July 13, 2024

“And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:” 

1 John 5:14 (KJV)

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!

duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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duchess01

SING UNTO THE LORD

Sing unto the Lord a brand new song;
Sing praises to Him all your lifelong;
For He has sustained and kept you sound;
His blessings upon you daily abound!

Sing – Sing your sweet song of praise;
Ring – Ring your Hand bells and raise;
Your voice to His Honor and Glory be;
Your ringtone – a joyful noise – artfully!

With thanksgiving, let your sweet song begin;
With gratefulness, thank Him for peace within;
In Him, through Him, and with Him, we thrive;
Keep His commandments – Keep hope alive!

Victoriously – Jesus conquered death;           
He suffered and bled until his last breath;
Praise Him – Oh, Praise Him – thank Him in song;
For without His gift – we would not belong!

It is said when we sing – then, twice we pray;
Double the praise – sing a new song today;
Raise up your voice – in Psalms praise His name;
Jesus is Lord – let your voice proclaim!

Sing unto the Lord – a new song today;
Rejoice in His blessings a brand new way;
When we give Honor and Glory to Him;
Our hearts fill with joy – right up to the brim!

D01: 04/17/2013

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para59r
duchess01

🥰

duchess01

Psalm 91.The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing

#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-8GLitn-KQ&t=0s

____________________________

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.

#faith #god #psalms

Pray Everyday

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKUPiqPMs8M&t=2s

______________________________

HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️



barkerjim
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SD noticed something!!!

kalbokalbs

And the SD / Musk connection to JD is…?

TradeBait2

See this BIMD for more personal information about JD Vance. Ignore my personal comparisons and parallels as you desire.

https://www.theqtree.com/2024/04/04/back-in-my-day-finale/

Do not underestimate JD as VP if he is selected. He is tough, smart, learns quickly, and dedicated. He will not be a Mike Pence.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Prepare for censorship wars!!!

pgroup2

That guy’s rockin’ a Steve Bannon ‘do.

barkerjim

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Alison

LOL That might be closer to the truth than fiction!!

based on some of @grandmaintexas’s Wednesday blog posts at Sylvia’s, many of us have dumped chemically-based (but often marketed as natural) items like soaps, shampoos, tooth paste and moisturizers.

specifically on moisturizer, Grandma had a great post on tallow and its uses and benefits. I found a company Heart and Homestead online ( or thru Amavzon) that sells whipped tallow balm with listed ingredients as: grass fed VA (Virginia) tallow, olive oil, calendula & rose infusion, roasted coffee oil, vanilla oleoresin. Certified USDA organic.

I’ve used both the Coffee Vanilla (ingred above) and the Vanilla Orange. Both have a mild, pleasant scent that quickly dissipates. I use a light dab of it on my face and the sheen/moisture lasts practically all day (altho it’s a bit too greasy on these hottest days).

i also put it on the thinning skin on the back of my hands.

pricy but I’m worth it 😊 check Sylvia’s for more of Grandma’s Wednesday tips 🩷

mollypitcher5

 😆 

pgroup2

He’s right – can’t make this stuff up.

kalbokalbs

para59r

GWP ran a similar story two days ago. Makes the Catholic Priest’s combined with the Boy Scout’s scandal look like child’s play.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/forbidden-fruit-classroom-huge-american-sex-abuse-scandal/

Given the roughly 50 million students in U.S. K-12 schools each year, the number of students who have been victims of sexual misconduct by school employees is probably in the millions each decade, according to multiple studies. Such numbers would far exceed the high-profile abuse scandals that rocked the Roman Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts of America.

cthulhu

Such a model of restraint!

pgroup2

Aside from the disgusting nature of it, I have to point out that it’s legal.

cthulhu
pgroup2

How sad. The next generation won’t get kinky sex instructions.

pgroup2

For the romantic girls on this blog:

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Happy go lucky

And right quick too

Gail Combs

Is it a black widow, or brown recluse or just a daddy long legs or an orb weaver?

Barb Meier

Oh Gail, let’s not pause to get all clinical… spider in my bra????! No time to waste…

cthulhu

What if it’s a friendly spider?

pgroup2

Well, who ever the guy is will get real friendly as she ditches her bra.

Gail Combs

We let them live.

TheseTruths

Unvaccinated organic pure blood Novak Djokovic plays a small imaginary sad violin for his haters at Wimbledon after winning the Semi Final & progressing to this weekends final.

The Tennis GOAT is often hated after exposing the sheer lunacy of the COVID Vaccine scam & refusing the experimental mRNA Jabs.

While other athletes collapse on court or die suddenly for whatever reason – Novak continues to stand tall & the vaccine fanatics hate him for it.

It’s actually his tennis racket, so not a small violin, but good for him.

RAC

Watch this story disappear if they find out he’s an illegal immigrant…

“Armed police arrest man, 34, in Bristol as they investigate deaths of two men whose bodies were found in suitcases at Clifton Suspension Bridge”
“Police had earlier named Colombian national Yostin Andres Mosquera, 34, as someone they were hunting in connection with the grim discovery first made on Wednesday.”

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13630575/clifton-suspension-bridge-human-remains-arrest-police-bristol.html

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para59r

Oh yum.

Aldi’s in Great Britain is now selling bug meat for those that can’t afford a regular source of protein. We have an Aldi’s somewhere around here, but I’m not going to make an effort to find it. Meanwhile I’d be checking school menus closely. You can bet they’ll be sneaking that stuff into the cafeterias. By “they” I don’t mean the kids. Ackkkk!

You know what they say, “you are what you eat” and once you eat bugs, that makes you a bug and they’ll have no compunction against squashing you like one.

https://slaynews.com/news/major-uk-grocery-store-chain-begin-replacing-meat-insect-based-foods/

cthulhu

Aldi’s is a pair of German companies, Aldi Nord and Aldi Süd. Originally founded as one company in 1946 by two brothers, the brothers had a falling-out in 1960 (over the sale of cigarettes, which one brother insisted would attract low-lifes) and have since been separate corporations (headquartered in neighboring cities). In the US, Aldi Nord owns Trader Joe’s and Aldi Süd owns Winn-Dixie and Harveys. Great Britain is Aldi Süd.

The rivalry is not so fierce that they won’t gang-up on suppliers to get joint purchase discounts.

The brothers were out of the picture by 1993, leaving the companies to be run by private family foundations [think “Ford Foundation” and “Carnegie Foundation”].

pgroup2

Coothie’s Post-College Continuing Education Project rolls on.  😍 

mollypitcher5

Very interesting, never heard that before

cthulhu

If you think that’s fun, you should delve into Swagelok [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swagelok ]. The guy that owned it was a paranoid [I say with admiration] who structured the thing with rabbit holes and cutouts everywhere. The third largest employer in a city where you live might be Swagelok, and neither you nor its employees might ever know.

Being privately held, they don’t disclose Jack to the SEC or other Feds (except the IRS, and you can expect that to be confusing as hell). You can visit their website and hear their story — https://www.swagelok.com/en/about/legacy .

barkerjim
pgroup2

This guy’s running for governor of NC.

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If Trump wanted to guarantee his election as governor, he’d pick him for VP at the convention. Robinson would politely decline, saying that he’s honored but NC needs him to be governor.

Trump could then reveal his real VP choice, saying that he was torn between 2 guys and he only picked Robinson on the way to the convention.

kalbokalbs

Robinson would be great by me.

MeThinks. Ben or Kari.

Not gonna be a sitting Senator, as we need the Senate.

Gail Combs

YOU CAN NOT HAVE ROBINSON!!! We need him in NC!

  :wpds_twisted:   :wpds_mad:   :wpds_evil: 

para59r

Okay, can’t wait till Tuesday when DP gets back.

GA/FL
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kalbokalbs

duchess01

EVENING PRAYERS

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cthulhu

Richard Simmons has passed at the age of 76.

https://www.tmz.com/2024/07/13/richard-simmons-dead-dies-fintess-guru/

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cthulhu

Note that the sex guru lasted 20 years longer than the fitness guru….

Barb Meier

Steve, everything is moving fast. I don’t remember where I saw this and I saved it on the 10th. I wanted to give you another beautiful eagle to add to your collection. 🤗 Thank you for your Saturday posts!!!

Eagle_attacks
scott467

Apparently Trump was rushed off the stage at the Penn rally because shots were heard, as far as I know, DJT is fine.

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Deplorable Patriot

he did walk off, but there are reports of blood near an ear.

scott467

RSBN (video above) just reported that his ear may have been hit.

mollypitcher5

OMG…unbelievable. I hope he’s okay

Deplorable Patriot

Looks like he is.

The game just intensified.

mollypitcher5

It sure did. It makes me proud that the crowd turned on the msm instead of trampling each other to get out

Gail Combs

I sure hope Mega supporters scared the LIVING SCHIFF out of the Fake Mews -CIA gas lighters since THEY are ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE for Trump Derangement Syndrome.

kalbokalbs

TDS flames created AND fanned by Pravda News, lefty loons, hollweird.

singingsoul1

Thank you

scott467

The two ladies reporting at RSBN are shaming the assassins, and shaming the demons and devils too 😁

She just said “I may get in trouble for this, but I’m a Texas girl, so I’m just gonna say it, get locked and loaded.”

Now that’s reporting! 👍

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Deplorable Patriot
scott467

Yep, there is definitely blood on his face, but he’s holding the Secret Service up as they tried to move him from the stage, saying ‘Wait, wait’ so he can address the crowd, pumping his fist in the air, and you can see he’s saying “Fight, fight, fight” (3 times), so it looks like he’s going to be okay 👍

Looks like the top of his right ear was grazed.

Can’t get much closer than that.

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barkerjim

Blood on his right ear, too!

mollypitcher5

Looks like he’s yelling Fight Fight?

scott467

Yep.

kalbokalbs

Crowd responded well.

singingsoul1

Prayers for President Trump. The person shooting needs to hang

kalbokalbs

RSBN video show Trump reach for his left right ear and goes behind the podium.

No idea about anything else.

RSBN say ambulance heading towards what looks like a medevac helo.

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Tatonka Woman

There was video of a life evac chopper leaving the site

para59r

Hasn’t seen that. Here’s the motorcade leaving.

kalbokalbs

Did they get the bad guy(s)?

mollypitcher5

One guy on R America’s voice said secret service may have shot someone OUTSIDE the perimeter

Barb Meier

RSBN says the shooter and a rally goer are dead.

para59r

Prayers for the rally goer and family. That’s going to be a hard one.

scott467

I haven’t heard yet, except that RSBN seemed to think the Secret Service fired at someone outside the event, maybe toward the treeline.

mollypitcher5

The tree line behind the podium or ?

scott467

I think to the side, to DJT’s right side (TV viewer’s left side).

He was facing to his right, pointing at a chart (or something, it was off camera), so if he was hit in his right ear while facing to his right, the shooter must have been off to DJT’s right (or possibly left, behind him, but my sense is that the bullet came from the left side of the TV screen, or DJT’s right).

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singingsoul1

CIA specialty decoy . I do not trust those bleeps.

Gail Combs

YES!
Hubby reports:
Mark Violets MEMBER OF ANTIFA!

kalbokalbs

So do we know if the dead guy is Mark Violets, or we have two bad guys.

para59r

Not sure… they keep showing vid of this guy getting dragged out of the stands… Might be an abundance of caution thing or something else. No clarification that I’ve heard of.

https://twitter.com/LoveOfCouples2/status/1812274571623760022

para59r

That might be the rally guy that was shot in the head.

kalbokalbs

Live Fox, looks local Fox

Nothing new that I can tell. Replaying the attempted assassination. Trump hit. I think he instinctively ducked. SS surrounded…

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scott467

Looks like there were three steady shots in a row, I think the first one hit his ear (which he reached up to feel) and the second and third shots apparently missed.

Sounds like Secret Service returned fire at that point, while other agents swarmed DJT and took him to the ground.

Someone in authority said “are we good?” a couple times, and “shooter’s down”.

Then “we’re clear, we’re clear” and “Let’s move”.

As they stand up, DJT says “Let me get my shoe”.

It was after that, still surrounded by Secret Service, that he pumped his fist in defiance, saying “Fight, fight, fight” to the crowd.

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kalbokalbs

Yea. I’ve settled on first round hit Trump.

After first round, accuracy fades. Only the Most experienced snipers can maintain accuracy. MeThinks.

scott467

The reporter just mentioned ‘smoke’ and I did see what looked like smoke around DJT’s head as he was shot, and that doesn’t make sense why there would be any ‘smoke’ at the impact site.

So I’m not sure what it was.

para59r

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Secret Service were having a hard time getting their guy down. Trump is a bull.

scott467

Looks like state troopers are hauling someone away who was in the bleachers, but that has to be unrelated, or there would be swarms of secret service involved too.

kalbokalbs

I’ll be quite surprise if the round that winged (or worse) Trump’s ear did not hit someone behind Trump.

If it missed anyone else, I’d question the angle. (Shooter >>> Trump.)

scott467

He was turned to his right (our left) pointing at some chart apparently, so the crowd directly behind the podium would not have been hit by the gunfire, and there may have been no one to his left (our right) off camera.

I would guess there were few people immediately to the left or right of the stage, that most people would be in front of or behind the stage.

scott467

Reporter talking about ‘smoke’ again, and I’m not aware of any weapon that causes ‘smoke’ at the point of impact, but I did see something that looked like smoke.

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