Dear MAGA: 20241201 Open Topic

This Rejoice & Praise God Sunday Open Thread, with full respect to those who worship God on the Sabbath, is a place to reaffirm our worship of our Creator, our Father, our King Eternal.

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Faith and Hope

Faith and hope are distinct yet related. That there is a difference between faith and hope is evident in 1 Corinthians 13:13, “Now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” Two of the three greatest gifts are faith and hope, listed separately. That faith and hope are related concepts is seen in Hebrews 11:1, “Faith is confidence in what we hope for.”

Faith is a complete trust or confidence in something. Faith involves intellectual assent to a set of facts and trust in those facts. For example, we have faith in Jesus Christ. This means we completely trust Jesus for our eternal destiny. We give intellectual assent to the facts of His substitutionary death and bodily resurrection, and we then trust in His death and resurrection for our salvation.

Biblical hope is built on faith. Hope is the earnest anticipation that comes with believing something good. Hope is a confident expectation that naturally stems from faith. Hope is a peaceful assurance that something that hasn’t happened yet will indeed happen. Hope must involve something that is as yet unseen: “Hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have?” (Romans 8:24). Jesus’ return is our “blessed hope” (Titus 2:13)—we can’t see Him yet, but we know He’s coming, and we anticipate that event with joy.

Jesus said He is coming again (John 14:3). By faith, we trust Jesus’ words, and that leads to hope that we will one day be with Him forever. Jesus was resurrected from the dead, “the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep” (1 Corinthians 15:20). That is the basis for our faith. Then we have Jesus’ promise: “Because I live, you also will live” (John 14:19). That is the basis of our hope.

The relationship between faith and hope can be illustrated in the joy a child feels when his father tells him they are going to an amusement park tomorrow. The child believes that he will go to the amusement park, based on his father’s word—that is faith. At the same time, that belief within the child kindles an irrepressible joy—that is hope. The child’s natural trust in his father’s promise is the faith; the child’s squeals of delight and jumping in place are the expressions of the hope.

Faith and hope are complementary. Faith is grounded in the reality of the past; hope is looking to the reality of the future. Without faith, there is no hope, and without hope there is no true faith. Christians are people of faith and hope. We have “the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time” (Titus 1:2).
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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

FIFTY days, 11 hours, 19 minutes until our Once and Future President, Donald John Trump, is restored to his rightful office.

Not that I’m counting, mind you.

Valerie Curren

Thanks for the continuing non-counting countdowns; they are an encouragement!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Both our faith and our hope in Trump’s third term are demonstrated! These may be lesser things than our faith and hope regarding Christ, but they’re real nonetheless!

Valerie Curren

“These may better be lesser things than our faith and hope regarding Christ” a slight improvement, in my mind, to your hopeful thought 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Ah, yes. In our cases, surely. The argument is being mayed in such a way as to still potentially be true to those like Steve who may [COUGH] not accept other parts of the comparison! Your mayage may vary! 😉

Valerie Curren

Of course 🙂 didn’t want to inflate DJT to Messiah status 😉 😉 LOL

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Swamp Messiah” is still a lesser thing, by my reckoning! 😂

Valerie Curren

Genius!!! LOL

cthulhu

I think the music for “Swamp Messiah” goes something like this —

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

BakoCarl:

We seem to have a swapped around date, 12012024 instead of 20241201. I know you did it the other way last week.

Wolf may need to tweak something too.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

No, thank you for years of holding down Sunday open threads.

Valerie Curren

Amen!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I was able to flip the numerals in the URL. DONE.

TheseTruths

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AOC might run for president in 2028. 🙄

Valerie Curren

Kakula’s tic-tac-toe neck is a cat scratch loss  😂 

How could anyone think the unserious AOC w/ That Voice could ever be in the big chair…but then Hildabeast & Kommie la la paved the way for feminIdiocracy  😮 

Aubergine

AOC is so low-IQ she makes a toddler seem wise.

Valerie Curren

That mini AOC girl was more on the ball than actual AOC…just wow!

Aubergine

Lol, yeah she was!

Valerie Curren

She was Great!

prognosticatasaurusrex

She makes a Lego block look smart. Sandy, as she was known in college, has the metal aquity of a thumbtack, and is as deep a thimble

Aubergine

I think you may be giving thimbles a bad name!

prognosticatasaurusrex

AOV vs JD Vance? LMAO. JD just needs to ask her if we can still land on the Sun….at night. Seriously, this would be a slaughter.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Already putting a guarantee on J.D. ’28! I like it!

Valerie Curren

He’ll be catching the master’s mantle after learning at the feet of Gamaliel 😉

TheseTruths

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They will maintain that they fear Kash is going to weaponize the agency. Only they’ll call it “politicizing”

Aubergine

It should be a weapon…against ACTUAL CRIMINALS.

pat frederick

EXACTLY–isn’t that it’s purpose?

Aubergine

Yes!

prognosticatasaurusrex

THAT is what we elected Trump to do, to PROSECUTE the prosecutors. They had their thumbs on the scales of justice. time to put BALANCE back. It MUST be done, and done SO severely that no one will EVER DARE use lawfare against the US public again.

Let THEM eat cake.

Aubergine

Agreed!

prognosticatasaurusrex

They already did, I say SO. Time for the shoe to be on the OTHER foot. Leet them stew, and FEAR. I can only HOPE that Patel does 50% of the evil the Cabal did to us to the Cabal.

Valerie Curren

Patel does 50% of the evil the Cabal did to us to the Cabal.” He needs to stay within the bounds of constitutional law & bring crushingly swift justice ASAP

scott467

So in other words, they’re going to do what they always do, which is to project their own conduct on their enemies.

Got it.

TradeBait2

Just like the illegal alien operatives. Those on the payroll will get out so they can continue their criminal activities outside the borders and hope for a return of the lawless to the white house.

pgroup2

Is it just me? I don’t think Kash’s skin tone is that dark, almost like somebody electronically played with the photo.

pat frederick

i thought so too

pat frederick

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prognosticatasaurusrex

l smell FEAR, and, they SHOULD BE AFRAID after all that they did against the American people. The right people are apoplectic. GOOD.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good, innocent FBI agents (and I’m including many diehard Dems) just need to sit tight. They will be in the power seats within the next 2 years, as the politicized operatives flee.

I will bet that, within the FBI, many are thanking the Lord that justice is almost here.

scott467

Well who were they thinking he was going to appoint, Pete Buttiedge-edge?

And if there are mass resignations, that just proves that the FIB has been totally:

1) politicized – they would have no reason to quit if they weren’t aligned with the radical Left

2) corrupt – they would have no reason to quit if they had nothing to hide

3) racist – what, they don’t want a black man to head the FIB?

4) hypocritical (for pretending they’re not a bunch of political, corrupt, fascist racists)

pgroup2

He’s not black or even very dark.

People been playing with photoshop.

scott467

“He’s not black or even very dark.”

____________

He is a Melanin Lotto Winner by every Leftist measure, both on and off the books. Full and complete privileges and protected class status 👍

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Valerie Curren

I thought Indians (sub-continent) were considered Caucasian…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It depends. The northern Indians are generally considered such (they are the “Indo” in “Indo-European”), however the ones in the south are “Dravidians”–the population that was there before the Indo-Aryans arrived, and a totally different language family–and they, as far as I know, aren’t.

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Valerie Curren

Do these two groups look appreciably different?

My middle son’s fiancée is of Indian extraction by way of the Caribbean & Guyana & both she & her parents are quite dark skinned but their features are “white” fwiw. I think that she perceives herself as a POC & my son as “white” so thinks of their relationship as mixed race, or at least mixed ethnicity. They share a common foundational faith which is the glue 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The best thing to do is to go search for “Dravidian People” or “Tamil people” or “Kannadinga people” or “Malayam People” (those are major Dravidian ethnicities). You’ll see a variety of skin colors, running from very dark to light, and you can assess the features. I’m not going to try to draw any conclusions because I suspect I’ll just end up saying something ignorant.

cthulhu

Eh, they all look alike to me.

No tentacles, no wings…..

Valerie Curren

 😂 

Valerie Curren

I suppose I could just ask her, or my son, for the discussion is fairly academic at this point. Bottom line with our families is that we are all Brothers & Sisters in Christ so from one big happy family LOL

cthulhu

Technically speaking, Caucasians are from the Caucasus — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus .

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

True that, but it’s an old-fashioned term for “white.”

cthulhu

There have been recent papers suggesting that the Caucasus area was a prime spot for interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans. I found this particularly amusing in conjunction with “Caucasian” being “white”.

It doesn’t help that red hair is probably a Neanderthal trait.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And just to add to the confusion is the fact that we have Dmanisi Man, a subgrouping of Homo ergaster. However they have nothing to do with Homo sapiens (either Neanderthal or “us”).

(Most people insist on sticking a vowel between the D and the m, but they shouldn’t. On the other hand Georgian loves to torture others with consonant clusters.)

The Denisovans were another group similar to Neanderthals and I think we ended up with some of their DNA too…but they were FAR away from the Caucasus, closer to the Altai.

cthulhu

The Caucasus is a fascinating area in a lot of ways. I remember listening to a radio program where a bunch of “researchers” (students who needed academic credit for travel) were schlepping around the hills collecting samples of apples and pears, because that’s where they first evolved.

One asks the botanist leading the trek, “there’s something odd about the groundcover on this hill, but I can’t figure it out.” The botanist casually responded, “it’s arugula.” So, yes, there is a place where the weeds are arugula and the native trees are apples.

It’s also where Noah’s Ark was supposed to have landed after The Flood.

Valerie Curren

Mount Ararat, Turkey?

cthulhu

Yup.

Valerie Curren

By the way, I’m about 2/3 through Stand on Zanzibar, which I think was your recommendation. A very interesting read. He was fairly prescient in a number of ways. Unfortunately this book is due tomorrow so I hope the lending library will extend the loan as I doubt it’s in high demand given its publication date. It’s a fairly busy time (B-days & holidays) to try to read something as hiccuppy as the disjointed aspects of that tale 😉

cthulhu

Oh, good!

I hope you’re enjoying it!

Valerie Curren

I am. It’s different & quirky, but then so am I!

cthulhu

I hope TPTB give you that extension — the way that different, quirky, disjointed, and hiccuppy beast comes together at the end is a wild ride.

Valerie Curren

If they don’t I’ll just request it again but it seems silly to send it back to the original lender to have them turn around to loan it out through my local library again…we’ll see 🙂

cthulhu

Did you read The Hunting of the Snark?

Valerie Curren

Not that I recall…

cthulhu

Would you like me to just tell you the link, so as to enhance your reading of SoZ? The Hunting of the Snark will still be worth reading afterward.

Valerie Curren

probably later as I already have a bajillion tabs open…

cthulhu

Oh, I meant just tell you (in a comment here) what the link between the two works is.

Valerie Curren

Yes & then I’d open it in a tab & it would get lost among All the other stuff I keep Hoping to read! 😉

Valerie Curren

OK go for it!

cthulhu

In THotS, there is a running gag where a character says, “Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice: / What I tell you three times is true.”

Later, another character says,
“‘Tis the note of the Jubjub! Keep count, I entreat; / You will find I have told it you twice. / Tis the song of the Jubjub! The proof is complete, / If only I’ve stated it thrice.”

It seems, much like the MSM in our world today, that one can say anything in the Snark universe, no matter how nonsensical, three times and it must be taken as truth.

In SoZ, there comes a time when a super-secret high-level security passcode is necessary. After a bit of drama, the passcode is revealed to be “I tell you three times.”

Valerie Curren

Nice!

cthulhu

Mind you, this is edited quite a bit so as to minimize spoilers — and reading the full THotS might assist you to understand the weird jumpy structure of SoZ.

It should also be noted that Lewis Carroll, the author, was the public face of Charles Lutwidge Dodgson — a mathematician and constructor of logical puzzles.

Valerie Curren

I do love logic puzzles 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The Greater Caucasus forms the border between Russia and Georgia/Azerbaijan. The Lesser Caucasus is further south and that’s where Ararat is.

The Russians call Georgia/Armenia/Azerbaijan the “Trans-Caucasus,” i.e., the other side of the Caucasus mountains, because they are thinking of the Greater Caucasus. The Greater Caucasus is also traditionally part of the border between Europe and Asia, making Armenia/Georgia/Azerbaijan Asian countries.

In the early 1920s there was a Transcaucasian Soviet Federated Socialist Republic before it got broken up into the Georgian, Armenian and Azerbaijani SSRs. In Russian the name was: Закавказская Социалистическая Федеративная Советская Республика, and that first word transliterates to “Zakavkazskaya”

Valerie Curren

I always wondered how Europe & Asia were defined as separate continents since they shared such a huge land mass. Oh & how Iceland was part of Europe when it seemed geographically closer to North America, though clearly ethnically closer to Europe, Vikings perhaps?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That Europe-Asia border is essentially arbitrary.

The Ural mountains–a not very impressive range–is most of the border. (Yekaterinburg and Chelyabinks are near those mountains.) Then there’s the Ural River (formerly the Yaik) and the Caspian Sea. They are also the dividing line between European Russia and Siberia. There’s even a marker on the Trans-Siberian railway marking the line.

In earlier ages, it was the Volga river, before Russia expanded past it (Ivan IV (the Terrible) conquering Kazan).

Many geographers simply give up and call the whole thing “Eurasia” though obviously there’s a big cultural divide. Zoologists note that the boundary between European animals and Asian animals is quite far east of the Urals, so to them the line is deep inside of Siberia.

Since geography is as much about people as it is the lay of the land, Iceland is considered European. From a geological standpoint, the western part of Iceland (including Reykjavik) is actually on the North American plate and part of North America. The rift zone actually runs through Iceland, and it’s possible to scuba dive in the rift and put one hand on each continent.

[As a total aside, the region we call Siberia is divided by Russians into “Sibir” and the “Russian Far East” around Lake Baikal. There was actually a “khanate of Siberia” that was conquered by eager-beaver Russians during the time of Ivan IV, though he had no idea they were doing it at the time. Once the Khanate was gone, Russia had little difficulty sweeping across the whole area…it just took time, because it’s very hard to travel there.]

Valerie Curren

Always fascinating your takes on such things. TY for expounding! I’m guessing that plate rift in Iceland is where there is that long valley with, I think, a river at the bottom, but very steep, straight walls of the canyons. Also given the plates meeting there that is (likely) why there is all that volcanic activity.

Is Hawaii also located on a rift between continental plates?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Hawaii is not even remotely close to a plate boundary. It’s about as far away as you can get from such a thing. It’s dead center in the northern part of the Pacific plate.

Hawaii is a “hot spot” and if you look at the map showing the ocean floor, you can see it’s at the end of a LONG chain of sea mounts with an “elbow” northwest of Hawaii. The line runs north south past the elbow.

The Pacific plate traveled north over the hot spot then at some point tens of millions of years ago shifted to traveling northwest. (I read somewhere that this happened about the same time India collided with Asia.) As it moves, the hot spot generates new volcanoes. The old ones go extinct and get eroded until they no longer appear above the ocean surface. In fact a new volcano is forming SE of the Big Island; it’s still well below the surface of the ocean though. Mauna Kea on the Big Island is already extinct, though Mauna Loa is not.

There are a couple of dozen of these hot spots, and many hot spots end up being on plate boundaries. (I suspect they help create continental rifts–I’ve never quite heard a geologist say that. I know one who specializes in this exact thing; I should ask him some day.) But the Hawaiian hot spot simply isn’t under a continent, so there’s nothing for it to help rift.

Valerie Curren

Endlessly fascinating. Pacific Ring of Fire is heavily volcanic too, iirc. Is that like Hawaii & mostly hot spots, or like Iceland, a hybrid, or something else entirely?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The Ring of Fire is plate boundaries…but a different kind.

Iceland is on a mid oceanic ridge where plate crust is being created and the plates are spreading apart (carrying North America and Europe further apart, about as fast as fingernails grow). Well, something else has to disappear for that to work (or the planet blows up like a balloon), and what happens on the other side of the world is the Pacific plate which has almost no land on it, gets shoved under the other plates as they move towards it. So you get those deep trenches there…these are called subduction zones, and there’s generally volcanos a bit inland from those trenches. That’s the ring of fire. Also, subduction zones get the absolute worst earthquakes, often over a 9 on the Richter Scale (Chile and Alaska in the 1960s, Fukushima, etc.)

In California the fault doesn’t spread or subduct, rather the two pieces slide past each other…not very smoothly, hence earthquakes. The Pacific Northwest, on the other hand, is a subduction zone and it’s overdue for a Big One. A really Big One.

Valerie Curren

TY Steve, very interesting per usual. I would guess that some of those mountains in the PNW would be volcanic, beyond Mount Saint Helens, then?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, LOTS of them.

Mount Hood. Mount Rainier. Mount Shasta. There’s a cluster called the three sisters.

One time flying into Portland, I could look out the window and it was almost as if I could reach out and touch Mt. Hood. But then my eye followed the line southward. Big mountain, another big mountain far off, another one beyond that…a chain of volcanoes.

And Crater Lake was formed when a volcano blew itself to bits about 7000 years ago; the mountain has retroactively been given the name Mt. Mazama. [Edit: the date of 5783 BCE is given for Mt. Mazama. I hadn’t realized they had pinpointed it that precisely.]

(You’ll want to right click on this and open in a new tab:)

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cthulhu

The Juan de Fuca Plate is wedged so far under the North American Plate that its far edge is near Yellowstone.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There is some speculation that it’s actually connected to the Cocos plate off the coast of Mexico, and that there is a mid oceanic ridge running under the Western US. Which would explain the Colorado Rockies; magma still upwells through the ridge even though it’s buried. (And Yellowstone would be a hot spot on that buried mid-oceanic ridge.)

I don’t know how seriously geologists take that notion; it might be no more than a “just so” story.

Valerie Curren

Sounds like Some of this is actually theoretical & speculative…hmmm

cthulhu

Plate tectonics explains so much and changes your perception to the point where you can’t unsee it.

It is simply amazing that it was only recognized recently.

That said, there are still little blips, burps, and blarps around the edges that could be one thing or another. But the fundamental understanding is pretty bulletproof.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Geology would literally make no sense without it.

Valerie Curren

TY Steve, never having been to the PNW this really helps 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The only reason the PNW has a range there is because of the subduction zone.

Valerie Curren

 👍 

cthulhu

Just as a slight clarification on subduction zones….

Ocean bottoms are primarily basalt, where mountains on land are often granite. The average density of basalt is 2.9 g/cm3, compared, for example, to granite’s typical density of 2.7 g/cm3. Despite our normal experience, then, granite tends to “float” on basalt when they come together.

Thus, it is quite common for oceanic plates to dive under continental plates when they meet — and, in such cases, the volcanoes are inland from the subduction trenches.

Sometimes, however, two undersea basalt plates will come together and form a trench, but there is no “inland” where the volcanoes would appear. Instead, you might have a chain of volcanic islands near the edge of the upper plate.

Possibly the most famous example is the Marianas Islands, which are on the western side of the Marianas Trench. The two plates are the Marianas Plate (west) and Pacific Plate (east).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Japan technically would qualify too. And the windward Caribbean islands.

They tend to be arc shapes for reasons I won’t get into here.

Valerie Curren

Philippines seem arc shaped too…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Again, you’ll want to right click and open new tab on this:

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Red lines are divergent boundaries (rifts). Blue lines are subduction lines. Not sure what orange means.

Valerie Curren

TY!

cthulhu

Strike-slip?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That would be consistent with my rather limited knowledge of the topic.

I did try to check the San Andreas but things are just too packed together there.

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Valerie Curren

we happily take Spock’s guesses over other’s “known” facts LOL

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I looked again at high res. The San Andreas is orange, so yes now I am sure orange means strike/slip

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, and the Himalaya and Tibetan plateau are what happen when two continental masses collide. They both go up. Without looking it up, I suspect that the Indian continental rock is sliding at least partially under the Asian rock, forcing the Tibetan Plateau upwards

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Valerie Curren

True 🙂

scott467

“I thought Indians (sub-continent) were considered Caucasian…”

_____________

I have no idea what they are considered, or by whom.

I only know that in the crazy world of the hateful, racist, lunatic fascist Left that even one drop of melanin beyond what a white person has qualifies as a Melanin Lotto Winner.

The unhinged lunatic Left considered Commola, a Jamaican-Indian, as ‘black’, and if a Jamaican-Indian is black, then a real India Indian is black too.

Just look at that doctored photo, if he was any blacker, we wouldn’t even be able to see him.

That’s how it works in the crazy identity politics world of preferred treatment, special privileges, protected class & grievance.

Just ask Lie-awatha Fauxahantus. Being only 1,024th (or something similar) American Indian, she was entitled to all the benefits of being an American Indian, just because she had high cheekbones (I’ve seen them, they’re not that high) and a story from her Grandma.

Kash Patel is 100% Indian (India Indian).

He doesn’t even need to drag his cheekbones into it.

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Valerie Curren

I seriously doubt Kash will be playing any theoretical race card the grievance industry will grant him, especially since he is conservative so likely less than 3/5 of a person in their twisted eyes!

scott467

Right, I wasn’t suggesting Kash Patel played the grievance game, I was just pointing out that from a Leftist perspective, colored is colored.

Valerie Curren

They are so Raycisssss!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

His family is from India (by way of East Africa; the Brits imported a lot of Indians to East Africa).

But “India” is really a mish-mash of ethnic groups. It’s like saying someone is “European.” And in India the ethnic groups fall into two main categories, only very distantly related to each other, the ones in the north tend to be Indo-European (the Indo Aryan subfamily to be specific; it’s of the same rank in the family tree as the Balto-Slavic languages or the combination of Celtic/Germanic/Italic) while those in the south are Dravidian. Dravidians tend to have darker skin, and their languages are at most very distantly related to Indo-European languages. They were probably the “original” population of India before the Indo-Europeans (called Aryans but Hitler managed to abuse that term to the point where now it brings mental images that don’t match reality) moved in.

I put “original” in quotes because there are apparently remnants of groups that were around before the Dravidians, they are collectively called the “Adivasi”

Kash Patel is Gujarati, which is one of the Indo-European ethnicities, from Western India. Apparently there are about 70 million Gujaratis world wide, the vast majority in India, with smaller groups in Pakistan and the United States. (We’re the third biggest Gujarati nation, with double the Gujarati population of the UK which is number four. And if Patel is any indication, we are better off for it.)

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TheseTruths

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para59r

Maybe if they ask nice the new DOJ can look into it as they look into where all the Ukraine money went since it will be the same place and no I don’t mean Ukraine.

TheseTruths

Exactly!

Brave and Free

Is he going after his former friends? What’s he know that he doesn’t want everyone else to know, is this a distraction?

Gail Combs

Scrambling to protect his rear?

It was predicted the DemonRats would eat their own. Remember they are mainly psychopaths and have no real loyalty to others.

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TradeBait2

Criminals do what criminals do and that includes you, Carnival Barker.

Aubergine

Well, we can now be certain James Carville didn’t get any of it!

Valerie Curren

 😂 

Cajun be rajun

Aubergine

That guy is such a nut.

Valerie Curren

Yep 😉

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I still remember when he made his comment about dragging a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park you never know what you’ll find…he was trying to say you could find any white trash woman who’d allege an affair with Bill Klinton.

A CLASSIC editorial cartoon showed up with that line at the top, and a hundred dollar bill being dragged past a trailer on a fishhook. And two word bubbles from the trailer…one a voice saying “Bill why did you stop?” and the other saying “I think I just smelled a campaign donation going by.”

Valerie Curren

 😂 

Aubergine

Lol.

pgroup2

Serpenthead getting his old feisty self back.  😆 

prognosticatasaurusrex

Uhhh, I do NOT think ol James has thought this through. PSST, ACT BLUE James. You do NOT want to REALLY know where that money went, OR where it CAME from.

On second thought, audit away, I’ll get my popcorn.  😎 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He’s practicing his lines. “I’m shocked – SHOCKED, I SAY – that Act Blue was engaged in gambling smurfing!”

scott467

Great question… we’re all on the same team now, lizard head 👍😂

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

Never heard of this guy. I take it as a sign that there’s lots of ‘personnel mining’ going on inside the transition team. This is good.

prognosticatasaurusrex

It means he is NOT one of the good ol boys/ THIS is great, and VERY bad for the Cartels.

mollypitcher5

It might also give Az back to the People instead of the compromised fraudulently elected leadership.

TheseTruths

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

THAT’s why yesterday was so slow. You weren’t there at all.

TheseTruths

Someone had to oversee the Turkey Day festivities… 🦃😆

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

They wiped you out thru Saturday apparently. Anyhow, I hope you read the post.

TheseTruths

I plan to do so, thanks.

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

Dem’s fightin’ words.

TheseTruths

A lot of those will be going around…

TradeBait2

As I predicted. For the most part BRICS will cave on that one except for a back-up system of currency facilitation to avoid sanctions should a future idgit inherit the white house and use that as their weapon of choice.

pgroup2

There would be no reason for a country to ‘cave’ if the USA doesn’t have the ability to domestically replace the product(s) that we now import from that country.

The fastest way to create a public outcry against DJT would be to artificially create a shortage by putting tariffs on a country for refusing to ‘cave’..

Gail Combs

I have noticed a lot of stuff I used to buy is no longer available. I am sure that is the case for everyone. As long as it is not food, clothing or fuel, I do not think you are going to see an outcry. Also someone else, probably in the USA, will step in and manufacture the item.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That said, our status as reserve currency has enabled a LOT of inflation…basically we’ve been exporting our inflation for decades.

I’d like to at least consider slowly moving away from that status but that would have to be sometime after we have honest money. (I’m thinking in decades here.) That would help us stay on honest money.

TheseTruths

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pgroup2

Wonder what France will think about having a pardoned felon as ambassador. Will they understand the blatant nepotism inherent in this appointment?

Valerie Curren

Was that “felony” akin to the ones the psychopaths have attached to DJT?

pgroup2
Valerie Curren

From your link, this explains a lot “Republican Chris Christie, who chaired Trump’s first transition team,”

Interesting that most of the sources for the Wiki poo write up appear to be from the left wing, fwiw…

singingsoul1

He was Chris Christie’s catch 🙄

kalbokalbs

Who cares?

pgroup2

If DJT didn’t care, then why appoint anybody?

Let whoever is there, stay there.

cthulhu

I think kalbo was saying something like, “who cares what the surrender-happy froggies think?”

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TheseTruths

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The “insurance policy” was to keep Trump from being elected president in 2016 by using the “Russia, Russia, Russia” lies. Those people should have been tried and convicted a long time ago.

prognosticatasaurusrex

It was FAR more than trying to only keep Trump out. it was an ACTIVE act of insurrection (a REAL one) to stall, cover up, obstruct, and subvert the legitimate President of the US and his agenda AND those who were part of Trump’s team. they used Propaganda, MSM, military, Five Eyes allies, FBI, CIA, State dept, IC, political and criminal lawfare, and SPIES and listening devices. They set TRAPS and landmines everywhere. It was ALL at the behest of ONE man. BHO. That man is now about to be FULLY exposed, and he has had his political clout and influence destroyed.

Hey Barry, it’s your uncle Bingo, time to pay the CHECK.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen. Barky Insurrecto is sweating!

Valerie Curren

It was ALL at the behest of ONE man.” AND whoever pulls Barry’s strings…

singingsoul1

Fair prosecutions process to show how judicial system in Republic democracy works.

TheseTruths

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I know where that comes from, but a sledgehammer would be more appropriate in this particular case. I’d settle for a baseball bat.

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TheseTruths

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TradeBait2

^^^ This.

TheseTruths

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Brave and Free

> Constant Wars
> Big Pharm
> Big Government

prognosticatasaurusrex

Barack Hussein Obama. Add him. ALL of the above were created and ran BY HIM.

Three people Trump MUST expose fully, prosecute, and put away forever. In no particular order

Soros, Obama, Fauci. Those three have done more damage to the WORLD by death, disruption, subversion, and mayhem.

Time for them to be used as EXAMPLES so that no one dares try it again…EVER.

If it means the ultimate price, so be it.

Gail Combs

I want the puppet master(s) of those three. They are just the ‘face’ and not the REAL POWER.

Barb Meier

The power of AND works well for me.

singingsoul1

The real power is we the people 😎

Barb Meier

So true, Singing!

Valerie Curren

This…need some AND logic here too!

para59r

Seems strange. 1. the snow is not really that deep. 2. it’s not snowing, so accumulations are not building. 3. Go to the 2 min mark. Who the heck clears a highway like that? This looks like a deliberate act or else the Safety Nazis have taken over America’s highways from what were being showed.

DRONE FOOTAGE FROM I-90 FREEWAY IS CLOSED
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ARE STUCK IN PARTS OF NEW YORK AND PENNSYLVANIA AS MAJOR SNOW STORM HAS CLOSED THE FREEWAY

https://twitter.com/tparon/status/1862765155278258290

Valerie Curren

very odd, I’ve never seen snow cleared that way from a highway…

holly

Lake effect snow bands. I’ve seen it snowing out front of my house but not out back. Depends on the winds blowing off the lakes. Could be 3 feet up on the ground ahead of the cars.

cthulhu

One of the gardening books we got way back when talked about “Bay Area Microclimates”, so we laugh every time it’s pouring rain in the front yard and sunny in the back (or vice-versa).

Seriously, though, we’ve had similar plants thrive and wither in spaces twelve feet apart (one got reflected light/heat from a wall).

Valerie Curren

Yeah we have a place on the front porch that doesn’t get much Winter sun & snow & ice can remain there when it’s gone off most of the rest of the property.

Gail Combs

That is IDIOTIC!

I lived within walking distance of that highway. “Lake Effect Snow” has been a fact of life in that area for AT LEAST the seven decades I have been alive.

If snow is known to be on its way the plows, salt & sanding trucks are out in mass BEFORE the storm starts.

That mess is NOT because of a snow storm, it is because of MASS INCOMPETENCE or more likely MALICE!

Here is a CNN article:

Dec 1 Heavy lake-effect snow creates treacherous travel in Great Lakes region as widespread Arctic chill freezes US

Biting cold temperatures – below-freezing in some areas – will sweep across a large swath of the United States Sunday while record-breaking, lake-effect snow makes post-holiday travel treacherous and nearly “impossible” in parts of the Great Lakes region.

People in parts of New York, Pennsylvania and Ohio faced low temperatures and several feet of snow over the weekend.

Near Lake Erie in Conneaut, Ohio, where additional snow accumulation could reach up to 5 inches on Sunday, [FIVE INCHES? Don’t make me laugh!!] a home’s roof appeared to be draped in snow Saturday, video shared with CNN by resident Ashley Drew shows. The home’s blue front door was only partially visible behind a wall of snow, as snow continued to fall….

The wind-driven cold air flowing across the record warm water in the Great Lakes is responsible for the lake-effect snow that has already unloaded up to dozens of inches of snow in some locations, according to forecasters.

Through Monday, an additional 1 to 2 feet of snow could fall in parts of Pennsylvania, northern Ohio and western New York. Watertown, New York, could receive an additional 1 to 2 feet of snow, according to CNN meteorologists.

“The heaviest snow totals are expected downwind of lakes Erie and Ontario, affecting areas from northeast Ohio, far northwest Pennsylvania, western New York State and portions of northwest New York state,” according to the Weather Prediction Center.

North East, Pennsylvania, a borough in Erie County, 👉recorded just over 42 inches of snow between Thursday night and Saturday afternoon👈 while Erie, Pennsylvania, received 31 inches. Barnes Corners, New York, saw 45 inches of snow by Saturday afternoon, according to the weather service….

Good grief we are talking maybe 3 to 4 feet spread over THREE days! That is nothing new for that area.

Notice the snow is maybe a foot deep.

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Tonawanda

Totally agree with this post, Gail. The I 90 is close by my home. Never in a thousand years would a rational person think that there was the danger implied by NY’s dictates.

Yes, there are always a few idiots who defy common sense. But it is crystal clear this was not the case under these circumstances.

Gail Combs

I have traveled that highway from Boston MA to Rochester NY in a blinding blizzard at night with ZERO problem except for a bit of ‘snow blindness’

Falling snow plus headlights for hours on end really get to your eyes.

I think the total amount of snow dropped THAT NIGHT was close to 3 feet. And yeah it was on Thanksgiving weekend, decades ago.

cthulhu

The Fiancee’s degree is from St. John Fisher in Rochester. She knows a little bit about the seasons there.

Gail Combs

I took all four of my German classes (required for chemists) from St. John Fisher. I knew I had a major problem learning languages and wanted to be able to concentrate on just that subject. So I took summer classes. I am glad I did. The prof was great.

cthulhu

I initially studied German because it was the language of Science, but I continued studying (despite headwinds) because it is such a beautiful language.

Gail Combs

A few years after graduating my Ex was posted to Germany. So I got to mangle the language in front of the natives. We all had good laughs at my ineptness.

I even took riding lessons in German. I mostly said  ‘Ich verstehe’ when the instructor looked at me to see if I understood her.

I purchased a child’s book on riding to learn the various words I would need to know. It was a tremendous help since it was a picture book. It covered and illustrated a lot of the dressage terms I needed to know.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Helped make things selbstverstandlich, no doubt.

(One of the glories of German is one can parse a word like that and figure out what it means, even never having seen it before. People sometimes think mein Deutsch ist sehr gut, when in fact it is schlecht.)

Cuppa Covfefe

Here’s a tale of two Germans meeting in London (as related by Arno Backhaus https://www.arno-backhaus.de/03c1989c9207c0a21/index.html) (fun with translations 🙂 )

Eine Geschichte die das Leben schrieb
Two stangers meet in London. They start a conversation but they have to use their dictionary quite often.

Hallo, Sir, how goes it you?

Oh, thank you for the afterquestion.

Are you already long here? Can you tell me about this town?

No, first a pair days. I am not out London. You overasked me!

Thunderweather, that overrushed me. You see but so out.

That can yes beforecome. But now what other: My hairs stood to mountain as I the traffic saw. so much cars gives it here.

You are on the woodway if you believe that in London horsedroveworks go.

Will we now beer drink go? My throat is outdried.

But look, there is a guesthouse, let us man there go in!

That is a good think! Equal goes it loose. I will only my shoeband close. I must have my earlypiece!

Okay, I shall pay it, yesterday I got my gostop over meadows.

Here we are. Make me please the door open.

But there is a beforehangingcastle! Auf Wiedersehen!

Nanu sie sind Deutscher ?

Ja, sie auch? Das wundert mich aber. Ihr Englisch ist so hervorragend, dass ich es gar nicht bemerkt hätte.

And then they made them me nothing you nothing out of the powder…….

(funny translating that back into German 😆 )

cthulhu

Sadly, I get so little opportunity to practice that I can barely say, “Ick sprekkeh ine bitchin’ Doych,” any more.

Barb Meier

Sadly, Geschwindigkeitsbegrenzung (speed limit) is the only word I remember from one course in German. I can’t spell it without Translate help but it sure stood out to me when I encountered it.

Valerie Curren

I just remember Sergeant Schultz saying Ja!

Brave and Free

Small world, my daughter took classes there also. I know all about Lake Effect snow.
IIRC Hochul closed that section of the thruway last year and then the storm never happened.

Tonawanda

These people LOVE the control and the feeling of importance it gives them.

mollypitcher5

Yep and throw in emergency status to any situation (except the flood devastation) and it makes them giddy with power.

holly

That’s Lowville. East of Lake Ontario. Reports of 30 inches there as of this morning.

Brave and Free

Yup, Tug Hill Plateau. Snow Fall coming down in feet is normal.

https://visitadirondacks.com/regions/adirondacks-tug-hill

Gail Combs

I have friends who still live in that area…. Because they can not find any fools to buy their house.

pgroup2

Rent it to the feds for housing illegals.

[j/k]   :wpds_unamused: 

Gail Combs

I doubt they would be willing to stay there!

Tonawanda

Absolutely ridiculous snow clearing.

The I 90 was closed from Rochester NY to the Pa line.

The cars you see in the video are people being PUNISHED by NY State for not obeying almighty government.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!

You and I know that is Government MALICE and not caused by a NORMAL snow storm.

Tonawanda

It is malice. If you rode that section of thruway these past few months, you saw nothing but Trump signs and flags.

para59r

Ah ha! Safety Nazi’s, Control Freaks, Unions, and Politics! Should of known.

para59r

Kati Hopkins could move to NY State and explain to citizenry exactly what is happening.

https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1862958391376711756

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Hah hah hah. Someone did a really bad job with that bleep-out. (I see that a lot actually and am sure it’s deliberate 99.9% of the time.)

cthulhu

When The Fiancee and I decided to visit Saint Petersburg, Russia, some years back, we discovered that our flight had to transfer in London. So we thought about which airline to use from there.

It wasn’t even winter, but we decided to use FinnAir. It’s an airline that flies into the Bahamas and asks, “where’s the ice?” They are disappointed when approach beacons aren’t sporadic and control tower transmissions are clear — they’d much rather be flying into a blizzard with patchy comms, zero visibility, and nasty cross-winds…..because that’s what they train for. Their safety record is amazing in Scandanavian conditions — just don’t expect too much of their in-flight food.

The same applies to highways during snow. Atlanta had a snow emergency a couple of years ago that completely incapacitated the metro — they have no plows, they have no salt, their pavement isn’t ready for ice, their markers are useless, and their troopers were just lost when it came to helping people…..

But New York and Pennsylvania have no such excuses when it comes to snow on I-90. WTF is wrong with these people?

My late uncle in Tennessee delighted when it snowed there — he’d dance over the snow and ice like Legolas in LOTR, because he grew up in Michigan. Everyone else would be creeping around to avoid falling on their ass.

How is it that NY and PA are acting like Californians all of a sudden. Have they lost IQ points?

cthulhu

My uncle would run around in tennis shoes and help everyone get their ice cleats on. And he’d come around and help everyone up when they slipped.

Gail Combs

EXACTLY!!!

As a kid I spent the winters traveling on cross country skis when ever I went out side because the snow was over my head!

The dog would climb up the drifts and sit on the roof of the garage. Mom and Dad put a red tennis ball on the radio antenna so people could see the car going around a corner. (The roof of the car was not visible over the plowed snow.)

pgroup2

Hard to do nowadays since the antenna is in the windshield.

Gail Combs

Don’t know whatcha talking about, my trucks all have normal antenna.

pgroup2

Not everybody follows Fred Flintstone’s example.

Gail Combs

Poor them. They do not know what they are missing.

Tonawanda

My family is from Buffalo. Two of them lived in Atlanta. They regaled us with funny stories about the terror two flakes of snow inflicted on the native populace.

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Gail Combs

I moved from ‘snow country’ to South Carolina so I know exactly what you mean.

However the biggest problem here in NC is they do not sand or salt so when the snow ==> ice everyone skids off the road.

We just stay home. 😋

pgroup2

Call Amish-Uber.

Gail Combs

Why? I have a horse and sleigh.

pgroup2

Then you can do Uber in a snowstorm and make money.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_wink:  What makes you think I haven’t?

PAVACA

Gail Combs
Yes.
And it doesn’t help that lots of NC types usually drive like “hogs on ice”, even in good weather and also at night.

Gail Combs

Actually I think those are the Dan Yankees come down from NYC and such.

pgroup2

Down from NYC is in the ocean. One must go west in order to access routes to the southern states.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Injecting a high-altitude POV here, the ocean is simply the world sump.

Tatonka Woman

Decades ago I lived in CO. I was offered a job in Greensboro, NC, along with 3 others I worked with in CO.

Not too long after moving there, Greensboro had a snow of about 6-7″.

I drove into work. The only other people who came to work, out of a staff of about 16, were the other three from CO!!

We had a very quiet day because none of our customers went to their jobs that day!

para59r

Well it’s clear NY and PA would cease to exist in a place like Idaho and such.

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Cuppa Covfefe

Is that why they’re driving on the wrong side of the road? 😀
(probably negative got flipped 🙂 )….

pat frederick

on some interstates, there are a tremendous amount of tractor trailers. when we go to visit my mom in southeastern PA, there were always tons of them. some were reckless, but for the most part most were courteous.
lately though? there’s been more aggressive driving by operators. there is a stretch of interstate that PA that they have been working on (repairing a bridge and off ramp) for months. there is ALWAYS a police cruiser on the roadside and warning signs that the right lane is closed ahead, BUT more and more drivers are ignoring the slow down signs, and merge signs because they cannot see past the curves along the mountains. so they race ahead of the slower left lane traffic and then face trying to merge on a downhill stretch.
there have been some tractor trailers–that frequent the area (my guess) that know what’s coming up and curtail the idiots trying to pass by driving their rigs in the middle of the road.
But then you get the tractor trailer drivers who trying passing those middle of the road guys on the right and that makes an even mess. and of course, if they manage to pass and come around the top of the mountain they are met with immediate lane closures and traffic cones and policemen waiting.
it’s a bad stretch to have to close lanes and they aren’t doing enough to police the area BEFORE the dangerous cut off. people don’t or can’t merge…drivers won’t let them given their ignoring the signs for miles and IF that road gets icy?? forget it…tractor trailers will take out multiple cars and maybe lives.
some of those “newly licensed” drivers are not from colder climates shall we say and have no experience handling road conditions of this nature.
On a normal drive home, I can’t watch the traffic–it scares the crap out of me. in icy or snowy conditions, I’d rather stay home.

Gail Combs

I have noticed the ‘new commercial drivers’ are really very under trained. They are also discourteous.

I think we are seeing DEI in action in this area too.🙄😫

mollypitcher5

Even in the mid 2000’s foreign teams were becoming a problem. One would get the license but almost always had several cohorts riding along. I remember one group that finally got cited for cutting a hole in the floor for using as a “bathroom”.

pgroup2

Well … that sure is creative.  😮 

mollypitcher5

3rd world deluxe style

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Reminds me of Soviet trains. I got to take one in Eastern Europe shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Valerie Curren

the go hole? ewww

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

There was a toilet with a bowl (beating out many restrooms I saw in Italy, where one was expected to squat over a hole). But you could see the pipe out the bottom simply went out the side of the train, because you could see the ground through it.

Valerie Curren

One would hope people don’t like to walk the tracks in such places…gross!

pat frederick

yep!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA