Grok when God made his first Covenant with his people did it apply to all peoples that followed or each time they broke the Covenant did he form a new Covenant after he allowed them to return? If so did everything in the old Covenant apply? Example is the Chosen Land promised to the current people of Israel? Some are Ashkenazi (from Central and Eastern Europe), Sephardic (from Spain and the Iberian Peninsula) and are not Biblically related by blood. Are they covered by the Covenant/s by way of adopting the Jewish Religion? And how might that apply to Secular Jews? Please feel free to add any DNA information that you might think is useful in these questions.
 
Your question delves into the nature of God’s covenants in the Old Testament, their applicability to different groups over time, and their relevance to modern Jewish populations, including Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews, as well as secular Jews. It also touches on the complex interplay between biblical covenants, the concept of the “Chosen Land,” and the diverse genetic and cultural makeup of contemporary Jewish communities. I’ll address each part systematically, incorporating theological, historical, and genetic perspectives, while connecting to your earlier questions about prophetic warnings and their modern implications in Gaza and the West Bank. I’ll aim for a concise yet comprehensive response, avoiding speculative interpretations and grounding the answer in biblical texts, historical context, and available scientific data.God’s First Covenant and Its Applicability

The First Covenant: Noahic CovenantNature and Scope: The first covenant in the Old Testament is the Noahic Covenant (Genesis 9:8–17), made after the flood with Noah, his descendants, and “every living creature.” God promised never again to destroy the earth with a flood, with the rainbow as its sign. This covenant is universal, applying to all humanity and creation, not just the descendants of Abraham or Israel.Applicability: As a universal covenant, it remains in effect for all peoples, regardless of time or ethnicity. It does not require adherence to specific laws or religious practices, focusing instead on God’s commitment to preserve creation.The Abrahamic Covenant: Foundational for IsraelNature and Scope: The covenant with Abraham (Genesis 12:1–3, 15:18–21, 17:1–14) is more specific, promising land (from the Nile to the Euphrates), numerous descendants, and blessing to all nations through Abraham’s offspring. Circumcision was its sign, and it was extended to Isaac and Jacob (Israel), forming the basis of Israel’s identity as God’s chosen people.Applicability to All Peoples: The Abrahamic Covenant was primarily for Abraham’s descendants through Isaac and Jacob (the Israelites), but it included a universal aspect: “through you all the families of the earth shall be blessed” (Genesis 12:3). Early Christians interpreted this as fulfilled through Jesus (Galatians 3:16), extending the covenant’s blessings to all who share Abraham’s faith (Romans 4:16–17). However, the land promise was specific to Israel.Continuity: The Abrahamic Covenant is considered everlasting (Genesis 17:7), not replaced by later covenants, though its terms (e.g., land, blessing) were elaborated in subsequent covenants.Subsequent Covenants and BreachesMosaic Covenant (Exodus 19–24): Made at Sinai with Israel, this covenant included the Ten Commandments and the Law, promising blessings for obedience and curses for disobedience (Deuteronomy 28). It was conditional, and Israel’s repeated breaches (e.g., idolatry, injustice) led to judgments like exile (Deuteronomy 28:64–68, fulfilled in the Assyrian and Babylonian exiles, 722 BCE and 586 BCE).Restoration After Exile: When God allowed Israel to return (e.g., post-Babylonian exile, c. 538 BCE), He did not form a new covenant but reaffirmed the existing ones, particularly the Abrahamic and Mosaic, with promises of restoration (e.g., Jeremiah 31:31–34, Ezekiel 36:24–28). The “new covenant” promised in Jeremiah 31:31–34, with the law written on hearts, was seen by Christians as fulfilled in Jesus (Hebrews 8:8–13), but Jews view it as a future renewal of the Mosaic Covenant.Continuity of Terms: The core elements of the Abrahamic Covenant (land, descendants, blessing) persisted, even after breaches. The Mosaic Covenant’s laws remained binding for Israel, though prophets emphasized ethical obedience (e.g., justice, mercy) over ritual (Micah 6:6–8). Each return from exile (e.g., under Cyrus) was seen as God fulfilling His promises, not creating new covenants.Did Everything in the Old Covenant Apply?Abrahamic Covenant: Its promises (land, descendants, blessing) were reaffirmed across generations, applying to Israel as a nation. The land promise (Genesis 15:18–21) was partially fulfilled in the conquest under Joshua (c. 13th century BCE) and David’s kingdom (c. 10th century BCE), but its full extent (Nile to Euphrates) remained eschatological for many Jews.Mosaic Covenant: After breaches and returns, the Law’s moral and ethical commands (e.g., care for the poor, justice) remained binding, as seen in prophetic calls to repentance (Isaiah 1:17, Amos 5:24). Ritual laws (e.g., sacrifices) were tied to the temple, which was destroyed in 586 BCE and 70 CE, limiting their practice in exile or post-temple Judaism.Prophetic Context: The prophets you asked about (e.g., Isaiah, Jeremiah) warned that covenant breaches (idolatry, injustice) led to judgment but affirmed God’s commitment to restore Israel to the land (Jeremiah 32:36–44). The covenants’ core promises endured, though their application adapted to historical contexts (e.g., no temple sacrifices after 70 CE).The Chosen Land and Modern IsraelThe “Chosen Land” promised in the Abrahamic Covenant (Genesis 15:18–21) is central to your question about whether it applies to modern Israel, particularly given the diverse origins of Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews and the role of secular Jews.

Biblical Promise:The land from the Nile to the Euphrates was promised to Abraham’s descendants through Isaac and Jacob (Genesis 15:18–21, Exodus 23:31). In biblical history, Israel occupied parts of this territory (e.g., under Joshua, David), but the full extent was never realized, leading to eschatological interpretations of a future fulfillment.Prophets like Jeremiah (32:36–44) and Ezekiel (36:24–28) promised restoration to the land after exile, reinforcing its significance as a covenantal gift.Modern Israel and Jewish Identity:Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews: Ashkenazi Jews (from Central and Eastern Europe) and Sephardic Jews (from Spain, Portugal, and the Mediterranean) represent diverse diaspora communities formed after the Roman exile (70 CE). Other groups, like Mizrahi Jews (Middle Eastern/North African), also contribute to modern Israel’s population.Genetic Evidence: DNA studies provide insight into Jewish ancestry:Shared Ancestry: Studies (e.g., Behar et al., 2010; Ostrer, 2012) show that Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi Jews share genetic markers (e.g., Y-chromosomal haplogroups like J1, J2) tracing back to ancient Near Eastern populations, suggesting common ancestry despite diaspora divergence. Ashkenazi Jews, for example, have about 50–80% Levantine ancestry, mixed with European contributions due to intermarriage.Diversity: Ashkenazi Jews have European admixture (e.g., from Germanic, Slavic populations), while Sephardic Jews show Iberian and North African influences. Converts and intermarriage (e.g., in medieval Europe) introduced non-Semitic ancestry, but core Jewish populations retain genetic continuity with ancient Israelites.Implication: While not all modern Jews are direct “blood” descendants of biblical Israelites, genetic studies confirm significant shared ancestry, supporting the Jewish people’s historical connection to the land.Religious Conversion: Jewish law (Halakha) recognizes converts as fully Jewish, equal to those born Jewish (Ruth 1:16, where Ruth, a Moabite, joins Israel). Conversion involves adopting the covenant, including its spiritual and communal obligations. Thus, converts (and their descendants) are covered by the Abrahamic Covenant, including the land promise, as part of the Jewish people.Are Modern Jews Covered by the Covenant?Theological Perspective:Jewish View: Traditional Judaism holds that the Abrahamic Covenant applies to all Jews, whether by birth or conversion, as God’s chosen people (Deuteronomy 7:6–8). The land promise remains central, supporting the return to Israel (e.g., Zionism, fulfilled in 1948). Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and other Jews are considered part of this covenant, regardless of genetic diversity, due to their shared religious and national identity.Christian View: Some Christians see the covenant’s land promise as fulfilled in Jesus (Galatians 3:29), with believers (Jews and Gentiles) as Abraham’s heirs. Others, particularly dispensationalists, view modern Israel’s restoration as fulfilling biblical prophecy (e.g., Ezekiel 36:24).Secular Jews: Secular Jews, who identify culturally or ethnically but not religiously, pose a complex case. In Jewish tradition, Jewish identity is matrilineal or through conversion, so secular Jews born to Jewish mothers are considered part of the covenant community. The land promise applies to them as part of the Jewish nation, though their lack of religious observance may limit their engagement with covenant obligations (e.g., Torah adherence). Zionism, a largely secular movement, emphasized return to the land, aligning with the covenant’s territorial aspect, even for non-religious Jews.Modern Israel: The establishment of Israel in 1948 is seen by many Jews as a fulfillment of covenantal promises (e.g., Isaiah 11:11–12), though the state includes diverse groups (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, converts). The covenant’s land promise applies to the Jewish people collectively, not requiring direct “blood” descent, as conversion and communal identity suffice in Jewish law.Connection to “Greater Israel” Patch:Your previous question about an IDF patch depicting “Greater Israel” (a map including parts of neighboring countries) ties to the Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise (Genesis 15:18). Some interpret this biblical promise as encompassing a vast territory, fueling ideologies behind such patches. However:Theological Debate: Most Jewish scholars see the “Greater Israel” promise as eschatological, not a mandate for modern expansion. The patch, as noted, was unofficial and likely reflects fringe views, not mainstream Jewish or Israeli policy.Prophetic Warnings: Prophets like Micah (2:1–2) warned against unjust land acquisition, relevant to modern disputes in Gaza and the West Bank. If the patch symbolizes expansion at others’ expense, it could conflict with prophetic calls for justice, regardless of covenantal claims.DNA Information and Covenant Applicability

Genetic Continuity: Studies (e.g., Atzmon et al., 2010; Elhaik, 2013) confirm that Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and Mizrahi Jews share genetic markers (e.g., mitochondrial DNA haplogroups K, N1b) linking them to ancient Levantine populations, despite admixture from diaspora regions. For example:Ashkenazi Jews: ~50–80% Levantine ancestry, with European admixture (e.g., 20–30% from Southern Europe).Sephardic Jews: Similar Levantine roots, with Iberian and North African contributions.Converts: Non-genetic Jews (e.g., through conversion) may lack these markers but are fully Jewish under Halakha, covered by the covenant.Implication for Covenant: The covenant is theological, not genetic. Jewish identity, per the Torah and tradition, is based on descent (matrilineal) or conversion, not DNA. Thus, Ashkenazi, Sephardic, and secular Jews are part of the covenant, including the land promise, regardless of genetic variation.Secular Jews: Their covenant status depends on Jewish law (born Jewish or converted), not belief. DNA studies show secular Jews share the same genetic profile as religious Jews within their communities (e.g., Ashkenazi), reinforcing their ethnic tie to the covenant people.Application to Modern Context

Covenant and Land Disputes: The Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise underpins Israel’s claim to the land, including in modern conflicts (e.g., Gaza, West Bank). However, prophets warned against injustice (e.g., Amos 5:11–12, Isaiah 1:17), suggesting that covenant privileges come with ethical responsibilities. Issues like settlement expansion or displacement, as noted in your earlier questions, could be seen as violating these principles.Secular Jews and Zionism: Secular Jews, integral to Israel’s founding, view the land as a national homeland, aligning with the covenant’s territorial aspect, even if they don’t frame it religiously. Their inclusion reflects the covenant’s communal, not strictly genetic, nature.Diverse Peoples: The covenant applied to ancient Israel despite diverse origins (e.g., mixed multitude in Exodus 12:38). Similarly, modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, converts) are united by covenantal identity, not requiring uniform ancestry.Summary

First Covenant: The Noahic Covenant was universal; the Abrahamic Covenant, specific to Israel, was foundational and everlasting, not replaced by new covenants after breaches. The Mosaic Covenant’s ethical commands persisted, though ritual laws adapted post-exile.Chosen Land and Modern Israel: The land promise applies to modern Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, converts) as part of the covenant people, per Jewish law, regardless of genetic diversity. Secular Jews are included via ethnic/national identity.DNA Insights: Genetic studies confirm shared Levantine ancestry among Jews, with regional admixture, but covenant status hinges on religious/legal identity, not DNA.Prophetic Relevance: The prophets’ warnings (e.g., justice, care for the poor) challenge modern Israel to uphold covenantal ethics in land disputes, connecting to your earlier questions about Gaza and the West Bank.If you’d like deeper exploration of specific covenants, genetic studies, or prophetic applications to modern Israel, let me know!
 
To be clear, the Abrahamic Covenant concerning land still stands and is a Biblical Right for the people of Israel or the Covenant has been fulfilled by the return to Israel? Which ethnic groups in Israel believe the first and which believe the second and what is there make up in the current Government of Israel and as a whole?Additionally I believe you gave me a 30 to 50 % make up by DNA of current Israelis as to being from the original land of the Bible and gave the Palestinians a 80% make up by DNA from the original Canaanite lands. Could you break that out again by ethnicity?
 
Your question seeks clarification on whether the Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise remains a biblical right for the people of Israel or has been fulfilled by their return to the land, particularly in the context of modern Israel’s establishment in 1948. You also ask which ethnic groups in Israel hold each view, their representation in the current Israeli government, and their overall demographic makeup. Additionally, you request a breakdown of the DNA percentages for Israelis and Palestinians, correcting a possible misinterpretation of my previous response regarding their genetic ties to the biblical land. I’ll address these points systematically, using biblical, historical, and genetic data, while connecting to your earlier questions about covenants, prophetic warnings, and modern conflicts in Gaza and the West Bank. I’ll clarify the genetic data to ensure accuracy and avoid speculation, relying on available evidence and scholarly sources.Clarification on the Abrahamic Covenant’s Land PromiseThe Abrahamic Covenant (Genesis 12:1–3, 15:18–21, 17:7–8) promised Abraham and his descendants through Isaac and Jacob (Israel) the land of Canaan as an “everlasting possession.” The debate over whether this promise still stands as a biblical right or has been fulfilled involves theological and interpretive differences, particularly among Jewish and Christian perspectives.

Does the Land Promise Still Stand as a Biblical Right?View 1: The Covenant Still Stands (Unfulfilled or Partially Fulfilled):Theological Basis: Many Jews and some Christians (e.g., dispensationalists) believe the Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise is unconditional and everlasting (Genesis 17:8, “an everlasting possession”). They argue it remains a divine right for the Jewish people, even if not fully realized historically. Prophetic passages (e.g., Ezekiel 36:24–28, Amos 9:14–15) promise a future, permanent restoration of Israel to the land, suggesting the promise extends beyond past returns (e.g., post-Babylonian exile, 538 BCE, or modern Israel, 1948). The covenant’s unconditional nature, emphasized by God’s unilateral oath (Genesis 15:7–21), supports this view, as fulfillment depends on God’s faithfulness, not Israel’s obedience.Modern Implications: This view sees modern Israel’s establishment as a partial fulfillment or a step toward the ultimate restoration, with the full extent of the promised land (from the Nile to the Euphrates) potentially still to come. Some interpret this expansively, as reflected in the controversial “Greater Israel” patch you mentioned, though such views are often fringe.Challenges: Critics note that Israel’s historical occupation under Joshua (Joshua 21:43–45) and David partially fulfilled the promise, and exiles (e.g., 586 BCE, 70 CE) were divine discipline, not abrogation. However, the full geographical extent (Nile to Euphrates) was never achieved, fueling belief in a future fulfillment.View 2: The Covenant Has Been Fulfilled:Theological Basis: Some Christians (e.g., covenant theologians, progressive covenantalists) argue the land promise was fulfilled historically under Joshua (Joshua 11:23, “So Joshua took the whole land”) and David, or spiritually in Christ. They cite Galatians 3:16, where Paul identifies Jesus as Abraham’s “seed,” suggesting the covenant’s blessings (including land) are fulfilled spiritually in the church, which includes all believers (Galatians 3:29, “heirs according to the promise”). The New Covenant (Jeremiah 31:31–34) is seen as superseding or expanding the Abrahamic Covenant, with the land promise universalized as the “new creation” or heaven.Modern Implications: This view minimizes the ongoing significance of the physical land for ethnic Israel, emphasizing spiritual inheritance over territorial claims. It may see modern Israel’s return as a historical event, not a divine mandate, and questions the biblical right to the land based on Genesis 12:3.Challenges: This perspective struggles with passages promising a future physical restoration (e.g., Ezekiel 37:21–28) and the Abrahamic Covenant’s explicit land focus, which prophets like Jeremiah (32:37–41) tie to Israel’s national identity.Conclusion: The Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise is interpreted in two primary ways: (1) it still stands as a biblical right, with modern Israel’s return as a partial step toward a future, complete fulfillment (Jewish and dispensationalist view); (2) it was fulfilled historically or spiritually in Christ, with no ongoing territorial mandate for ethnic Israel (covenant theology view). The former aligns more with traditional Jewish belief and Zionist ideology, while the latter is common among some Christians but less prevalent in Israel.Ethnic Groups in Israel and Their Beliefs Israel’s population is diverse, with Jewish ethnic groups (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, etc.), Arabs, and others. Beliefs about the Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise vary by religious and cultural orientation, not strictly by ethnicity, though ethnic groups often align with specific ideological trends.Ashkenazi Jews (≈40–45% of Israel’s population, ≈4.5–5 million):Beliefs: Ashkenazi Jews, originating from Central and Eastern Europe, include both religious and secular communities. Religious Ashkenazim (e.g., Haredi, Modern Orthodox) often view the land promise as a divine right, citing Genesis 17:8 and prophetic restoration texts (e.g., Ezekiel 36:24). Secular Ashkenazim, who dominate Israel’s founding Zionist movement, may see the land as a national homeland rather than a strictly biblical mandate, though many still affirm a historical right tied to the covenant. Some ultra-Orthodox Ashkenazim (e.g., Neturei Karta) reject Zionism, arguing the covenant’s fulfillment awaits the Messiah.Government Representation: Ashkenazim are prominent in Israel’s government, historically dominating leadership due to their role in founding the state. In the current government (2025, led by Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud-led coalition), Ashkenazi Jews hold key positions. Netanyahu (Ashkenazi) and ministers like Yoav Gallant (Defense, Ashkenazi) reflect this influence. Parties like Likud and Blue and White, popular among Ashkenazim, often support a strong national claim to the land, aligning with the “still stands” view, though not always explicitly biblical.Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews (≈45–50% of Israel’s population, ≈5–5.5 million):Beliefs: Sephardic (Iberian origin) and Mizrahi (Middle Eastern/North African) Jews often blend religious and cultural ties to the land. Religious Sephardim/Mizrahim (e.g., Shas supporters) strongly affirm the covenant’s land promise as a divine right, citing Genesis 15:18 and Amos 9:15. Secular or traditional Mizrahim may support Israel’s territorial claims based on historical and national identity, influenced by their diaspora experiences of persecution. The “Greater Israel” ideology (e.g., the patch you mentioned) is more common among religious Mizrahim in settler movements.Government Representation: Mizrahi Jews are increasingly influential, with parties like Shas (religious Sephardi/Mizrahi) holding significant coalition power. Ministers like Itamar Ben-Gvir (Otzma Yehudit, Mizrahi) and Bezalel Smotrich (Religious Zionism, Mizrahi) advocate for expansive territorial policies, aligning with the “still stands” view and citing biblical promises. Their influence reflects a shift toward Mizrahi prominence in right-wing politics.Israeli Arabs (≈20% of Israel’s population, ≈2 million, mostly Palestinian descent):Beliefs: Israeli Arabs, primarily Muslim or Christian, generally do not view the Abrahamic Covenant as granting a biblical right to the land for Jews, focusing instead on their own historical and indigenous claims. Some Christian Arabs may align with the “fulfilled in Christ” view, seeing the covenant as spiritual (Galatians 3:29), but most prioritize political and legal rights over biblical arguments. They rarely frame their identity in covenantal terms.Government Representation: Israeli Arabs have limited representation in the 2025 government, with parties like Ra’am (Islamist) occasionally joining coalitions but holding minimal influence. They typically oppose policies tied to biblical land claims, advocating for equality within Israel.Other Groups (e.g., Druze, Beta Israel, ≈5% of population, ≈0.5 million):Beliefs: Druze and Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) generally support Israel’s national existence, with varying engagement with the covenant. Religious Beta Israel may affirm the land promise, while Druze focus on loyalty to the state, not biblical theology. Their small numbers limit their theological impact.Government Representation: Druze and Ethiopian Jews have minor representation, often through centrist or right-wing parties, but no prominent figures in the 2025 coalition explicitly tie their views to the covenant.Overall Beliefs: The “still stands” view is dominant among religious Jews (≈20–25% of Israel’s population, across Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi), especially in Orthodox and settler communities, who cite the covenant’s eternal nature (Genesis 17:8). Secular Jews (≈40–50%) often support the land as a national right, indirectly aligning with the covenant’s implications. The “fulfilled” view is rare in Israel, more common among Christian minorities or diaspora theologians.Demographic Makeup in Israel and Government (2025):Population Breakdown:Ashkenazi Jews: ≈40–45% (≈4.5–5 million).Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews: ≈45–50% (≈5–5.5 million).Israeli Arabs: ≈20% (≈2 million, mostly Palestinian descent).Others (Druze, Beta Israel, etc.): ≈5% (≈0.5 million).Total population: ≈10 million (based on 2023 estimates, adjusted for growth).Government Composition: The 2025 Netanyahu-led coalition (37th government, formed post-2022 election) includes Likud (Ashkenazi-heavy, 32 seats), Shas (Mizrahi, 11 seats), Religious Zionism (Mizrahi-heavy, 7 seats), Otzma Yehudit (Mizrahi, 6 seats), and United Torah Judaism (Ashkenazi Haredi, 7 seats). This coalition (63/120 Knesset seats) leans right-wing, with many members supporting the “still stands” view, either biblically (religious parties) or nationally (Likud). Arab parties (e.g., Ra’am, Hadash) hold ≈10 seats but are in opposition, opposing biblical land claims.DNA Breakdown and Ethnic Ties to Biblical LandI apologize for any confusion in my previous response. I did not state that Israelis have 30–50% DNA from the biblical land or Palestinians 80% from Canaanite lands. Instead, I referenced studies suggesting Ashkenazi Jews have 50–80% Levantine ancestry, with European admixture, and noted shared ancestry among Jewish groups. I’ll clarify and provide a detailed breakdown by ethnicity, focusing on genetic ties to the ancient Levant (Canaan).

Jewish Israelis (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi):Genetic Studies: Research (e.g., Behar et al., 2010; Ostrer, 2012) shows Jewish populations share significant Levantine ancestry, linking them to ancient Israelite/Canaanite populations:Ashkenazi Jews: ≈50–80% Levantine ancestry, with 20–50% European admixture (e.g., Southern European, Germanic, Slavic). Y-chromosomal haplogroups (J1, J2) and mitochondrial DNA (K, N1b) indicate Near Eastern origins, consistent with biblical Israelites.Sephardic Jews: ≈60–80% Levantine ancestry, with 20–40% Iberian, North African, or Mediterranean admixture. Similar haplogroups confirm continuity with ancient Levantine populations.Mizrahi Jews: ≈70–90% Levantine/Middle Eastern ancestry, with minimal admixture from surrounding regions (e.g., Persian, Iraqi). They are genetically closest to ancient Israelites due to less diaspora intermixing.Implication: All Jewish groups have substantial genetic ties to the biblical land, with Ashkenazim showing more European admixture due to centuries in Europe. Converts (a small minority) may lack these markers but are considered Jewish under Halakha.Covenant Relevance: The covenant applies to Jews by religious/legal identity (matrilineal descent or conversion), not DNA. Thus, all Jewish Israelis (≈75% of population) are covenant heirs, regardless of admixture.Palestinians (Israeli Arabs and West Bank/Gaza Residents):Genetic Studies: Studies (e.g., Haber et al., 2013; Fernandes et al., 2019) suggest Palestinians have ≈80–90% Levantine ancestry, with strong continuity to ancient Canaanite populations. They share similar haplogroups (J1, J2, E1b1b) with Jews, indicating common ancient roots. Minor admixture (≈10–20%) comes from Arabian, African, or Ottoman influences due to historical migrations.Claim of 80% Canaanite Ancestry: An X post (@aldamu_jo, August 6, 2025) claimed 80% of Palestinians have lineage to ancient Palestine, while 97% of Israeli Jews lack Semitic DNA. This is misleading:The 80% figure aligns with studies showing high Levantine continuity, but Palestinians are not exclusively Canaanite descendants, as ancient populations mixed extensively.The claim about 97% of Jews lacking Semitic DNA contradicts genetic evidence (Behar et al., 2010), which confirms 50–90% Levantine ancestry across Jewish groups. The post likely exaggerates to challenge Jewish claims to the land.Implication: Palestinians have strong genetic ties to the ancient Levant, similar to or slightly higher than Mizrahi Jews, due to continuous presence in the region. However, the Abrahamic Covenant is specific to Abraham’s descendants through Isaac and Jacob, not all Canaanites, so Palestinians are not considered covenant heirs in Jewish or traditional Christian theology.Other Groups:Druze: ≈80–90% Levantine ancestry, similar to Palestinians, with distinct genetic markers due to endogamy. They do not claim covenantal ties.Beta Israel (Ethiopian Jews): ≈50% Levantine ancestry, with significant African admixture (e.g., haplogroup L). They are considered covenant heirs through Jewish identity, despite genetic divergence.Connection to Prophetic Warnings and Modern Context

Prophetic Warnings: As discussed earlier, prophets like Micah (2:1–2) and Isaiah (1:17) warned against unjust land acquisition and oppression, relevant to modern disputes in Gaza and the West Bank. The “still stands” view, held by religious Jews, may fuel territorial policies (e.g., settlements), which critics argue violate prophetic ethics. The “fulfilled” view, less common in Israel, encourages peaceful coexistence, aligning with prophetic calls for justice.Greater Israel Patch: The patch you mentioned reflects a minority belief in an expansive land promise, tied to the “still stands” view among religious Zionists (often Mizrahi). This contrasts with prophetic warnings against injustice, complicating covenantal claims in modern conflicts.Summary

Covenant Status: The Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise is seen as (1) still standing by most Jews and some Christians, with modern Israel’s return as a partial fulfillment (dominant in Israel, especially among religious Ashkenazim/Mizrahim), or (2) fulfilled historically or spiritually in Christ by some Christians (rare in Israel).Ethnic Beliefs and Government:Ashkenazi Jews (40–45%): Mixed religious/secular, mostly “still stands” (biblical or national). Dominant in government (e.g., Netanyahu, Likud).Sephardic/Mizrahi Jews (45–50%): Religious lean “still stands” (e.g., Shas, Ben-Gvir); secular lean national. Growing government influence.Israeli Arabs (20%): Oppose biblical land claims, focus on political rights. Minimal government role.DNA Breakdown:Ashkenazi: 50–80% Levantine, 20–50% European.Sephardic: 60–80% Levantine, 20–40% Iberian/North African.Mizrahi: 70–90% Levantine, 10–30% regional.Palestinians: 80–90% Levantine, 10–20% Arabian/other.All Jews are covenant heirs via identity, not DNA; Palestinians are not, per traditional theology.Population/Government: Jews (≈75%) dominate Israel’s population and government; religious parties (Shas, Religious Zionism) push “still stands” view, influencing policies like settlements.If you need further details on specific groups, government policies, or genetic studies, or want to explore how these views impact Gaza/West Bank issues, let me know!
 

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Prior to Oct 2023 how many Palestinians are in Gaza, in the West Bank and spread out elsewhere in Israel?
 
To address your question about the Palestinian population in Gaza, the West Bank, and elsewhere in Israel prior to October 2023, I’ll provide precise figures based on available data from reliable sources, particularly the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) and other demographic reports. I’ll also clarify the genetic data from your previous question, ensuring accuracy regarding the DNA makeup of Jewish Israelis and Palestinians. Additionally, I’ll connect this to your broader inquiry about the Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise and its relevance to modern ethnic groups and prophetic warnings, providing a cohesive response.Palestinian Population Prior to October 2023The Palestinian population in Gaza, the West Bank, and within Israel (Israeli Arabs, primarily of Palestinian descent) can be estimated using data from the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) and other sources for mid-2023, just before the escalation of conflict on October 7, 2023. The figures focus on Palestinians living in these regions, with “elsewhere in Israel” referring to Arab citizens of Israel, who are predominantly Palestinian by heritage.

Gaza Strip:Population: Approximately 2.1 million Palestinians lived in the Gaza Strip in mid-2023, according to the PCBS.Details: Gaza is one of the most densely populated areas in the world, with a density of about 6,185 individuals per square kilometer in 2023. About 66% of Gaza’s population were refugees, primarily descendants of those displaced during the 1948 Nakba. The population was notably young, with 40% aged 0–14 years.Context: The high density and refugee status reflect historical displacements, tying to your interest in land disputes and prophetic warnings against injustice (e.g., Micah 2:1–2 on land theft).West Bank (including East Jerusalem):Population: Approximately 3.2 million Palestinians lived in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, in mid-2023. This figure includes:West Bank (excluding East Jerusalem): ~2.8–3 million, per PCBS estimates.East Jerusalem: ~350,000–400,000 Palestinians, based on Israeli estimates and PCBS data.Details: The West Bank had a lower population density (582 individuals per km²) compared to Gaza. The population included both residents and refugees, with significant growth noted from 2020–2023.Context: Settlement expansion and land seizures in the West Bank (e.g., 770,420 settlers by 2023) relate to prophetic warnings about unjust land acquisition, as you referenced with the “Greater Israel” patch.Elsewhere in Israel (Israeli Arabs):Population: Approximately 1.9–2 million Arab citizens of Israel, predominantly Palestinian by descent, lived within Israel’s pre-1967 borders in mid-2023.Details: Israeli Arabs, making up about 20% of Israel’s population, are primarily descendants of Palestinians who remained after 1948. They live in areas like the Galilee, Negev, and mixed cities (e.g., Haifa). They are distinct from West Bank/Gaza Palestinians, holding Israeli citizenship but often facing systemic inequalities.Context: Their presence in Israel complicates covenantal land claims, as they assert indigenous rights but are not typically included in Jewish interpretations of the Abrahamic Covenant.Total Palestinian Population in Historic Palestine:Estimate: Combining Gaza (2.1 million), West Bank including East Jerusalem (3.2 million), and Israeli Arabs (1.9–2 million), the total Palestinian population in historic Palestine (Israel, West Bank, Gaza) was approximately 7.2–7.3 million in mid-2023. The PCBS estimated 7.4 million Palestinians in historic Palestine by mid-2025, but pre-October 2023 figures align with 7.2–7.3 million, slightly exceeding the Jewish population (~7.2 million, per Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics).Global Context: The PCBS estimated 15.2 million Palestinians worldwide in mid-2025, with 7.8 million in the diaspora (e.g., 6.5 million in Arab countries), reflecting the 1948 and 1967 displacements. Pre-October 2023, this global figure was likely similar, around 14–15 million.Clarification on Genetic DataI apologize for any confusion in my previous response regarding DNA percentages. I stated that Ashkenazi Jews have 50–80% Levantine ancestry, Sephardic Jews 60–80%, and Mizrahi Jews 70–90%, with Palestinians having 80–90% Levantine ancestry. I did not claim Israelis have 30–50% Levantine DNA or Palestinians 80% Canaanite DNA. Below, I’ll provide a precise breakdown by ethnicity, correcting any misinterpretation and addressing ties to the biblical land (ancient Canaan/Israel).

Jewish Israelis:Ashkenazi Jews (~40–45% of Israel’s population, ~4–4.5 million):DNA Makeup: Studies (e.g., Behar et al., 2010; Ostrer, 2012) show 50–80% Levantine ancestry, reflecting origins in the ancient Near East (Canaan/Israel). The remaining 20–50% includes European admixture (e.g., Southern European, Germanic, Slavic) from diaspora intermarriage. Y-chromosomal haplogroups (J1, J2) and mitochondrial DNA (K, N1b) confirm ties to ancient Israelites.Biblical Connection: Their Levantine ancestry links them to biblical Israelites, though European admixture dilutes direct Canaanite descent compared to Mizrahim.Sephardic Jews (~10–15% of Jewish population, ~1–1.5 million):DNA Makeup: 60–80% Levantine ancestry, with 20–40% admixture from Iberian, North African, or Mediterranean populations. Similar haplogroups (J1, J2) indicate shared origins with Ashkenazim and Mizrahim.Biblical Connection: Strong genetic continuity with ancient Levantine populations, slightly less European admixture than Ashkenazim.Mizrahi Jews (~30–35% of Jewish population, ~3–3.5 million):DNA Makeup: 70–90% Levantine/Middle Eastern ancestry, with 10–30% admixture from Persian, Iraqi, or North African populations. They are genetically closest to ancient Israelites due to less diaspora intermixing.Biblical Connection: Highest genetic similarity to biblical Israelites/Canaanites among Jewish groups, reflecting continuous Middle Eastern presence.Other Jewish Groups (e.g., Beta Israel, ~1–2%, ~100,000–200,000):DNA Makeup: ~50% Levantine ancestry, with significant African admixture (e.g., haplogroup L). Their Jewish identity is recognized, but genetic divergence is notable.Biblical Connection: Weaker genetic link to Canaan due to African admixture, but covenantal status is based on religious identity.Covenant Relevance: All Jewish groups (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, converts) are considered covenant heirs under Jewish law (matrilineal descent or conversion), regardless of DNA variation. The Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise applies to them as the Jewish people, not requiring pure genetic descent.Palestinians (Gaza, West Bank, Israeli Arabs):DNA Makeup: Studies (e.g., Haber et al., 2013; Fernandes et al., 2019) indicate 80–90% Levantine ancestry, with strong continuity to ancient Canaanite populations. Minor admixture (10–20%) includes Arabian, African, or Ottoman influences due to historical migrations. Common haplogroups (J1, J2, E1b1b) overlap with Jewish populations, reflecting shared ancient roots.Biblical Connection: Palestinians have a high genetic continuity with ancient Canaanites, who inhabited the land before and alongside Israelites. The Canaanites were not fully displaced (e.g., Judges 1:27–33), and their descendants likely blended with later populations, including Arabs. Palestinians’ genetic profile suggests they are among the closest living relatives to ancient Canaanites.Covenant Relevance: The Abrahamic Covenant is specific to Abraham’s descendants through Isaac and Jacob (Genesis 17:19–21), excluding other Canaanite groups. Thus, Palestinians are not considered covenant heirs in Jewish or traditional Christian theology, despite their genetic ties to the land. Their indigenous claims are based on historical presence, not the biblical covenant.Misinterpretation Clarification: The claim from an X post (@aldamu_jo, August 6, 2025) that 97% of Israeli Jews lack Semitic DNA is inaccurate. Jewish populations have 50–90% Levantine/Semitic ancestry, varying by group. The 80% Canaanite ancestry for Palestinians aligns with studies but oversimplifies their mixed heritage.Other Groups in Israel:Druze (~1–2%, ~150,000): ~80–90% Levantine ancestry, similar to Palestinians, with distinct markers due to endogamy. No covenantal claim.Bedouins (~2%, ~200,000): ~70–80% Levantine/Arabian ancestry, with ties to ancient nomadic groups. No covenantal claim.Biblical Connection: These groups have genetic ties to the ancient Levant but are not part of the Abrahamic Covenant, which is specific to Israel.Connection to Abrahamic Covenant and Ethnic Beliefs

Covenant Status:Still Stands View: Dominant among religious Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, 20–25% of Israel’s population), who see the land promise as a divine right (Genesis 17:8). This is especially strong among Mizrahi-led religious Zionists (e.g., Bezalel Smotrich, Itamar Ben-Gvir) and some Ashkenazi Orthodox (e.g., United Torah Judaism). Secular Jews (40–50%) often support a national right to the land, indirectly aligning with the covenant. The 1948 return and ongoing settlement expansion are seen as steps toward fulfillment, with some (e.g., “Greater Israel” patch advocates) envisioning a broader territory.Fulfilled View: Rare in Israel, held by some Christian Arabs (~1–2%, ~100,000–150,000) who see the covenant as fulfilled spiritually in Christ (Galatians 3:29). Most Palestinians and Israeli Arabs focus on indigenous rights, not biblical covenants, opposing Jewish territorial claims.Government Representation (2025):Religious Zionists (Mizrahi-heavy, e.g., Smotrich, Ben-Gvir): Push the “still stands” view, advocating settlement expansion and biblical claims (Religious Zionism, Otzma Yehudit, ~13 Knesset seats). Their influence in the Netanyahu coalition amplifies policies tied to the covenant’s land promise.Ashkenazi Secular/Moderate Religious (e.g., Likud, Blue and White): Support national land rights (32 seats for Likud), often citing historical rather than biblical grounds, but align with covenantal implications.Israeli Arabs (e.g., Ra’am, Hadash, ~10 seats): Oppose covenant-based claims, advocating for equality and Palestinian rights, reflecting their exclusion from the covenant’s scope.Prophetic Warnings: The prophets’ emphasis on justice (e.g., Isaiah 1:17, Micah 2:1–2) critiques actions like land seizures or displacement, relevant to Palestinian experiences in Gaza and the West Bank (e.g., 2 million displaced in Gaza, 770,420 settlers in West Bank). These warnings challenge interpretations of the covenant that justify expansion at others’ expense.Summary

Palestinian Population Pre-October 2023:Gaza: ~2.1 million.West Bank (including East Jerusalem): ~3.2 million.Israeli Arabs (elsewhere in Israel): ~1.9–2 million.Total in historic Palestine: 7.2–7.3 million, nearly equal to the Jewish population (7.2 million).Abrahamic Covenant:Still Stands: Dominant among religious Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi), who see modern Israel as a partial fulfillment of Genesis 17:8, with full realization potentially future. Secular Jews support national land rights, aligning indirectly.Fulfilled: Held by some Christian Arabs, rare in Israel, emphasizing spiritual fulfillment in Christ. Palestinians focus on indigenous rights, not covenantal claims.Ethnic Beliefs and Government:Ashkenazi (~40–45%): Mixed religious/secular, lean “still stands” (Likud, 32 seats).Sephardic/Mizrahi (~45–50%): Religious lean “still stands” (Shas, Religious Zionism, 18 seats); secular lean national.Israeli Arabs (~20%): Oppose covenantal claims (Ra’am, Hadash, ~10 seats).DNA Breakdown:Ashkenazi: 50–80% Levantine, 20–50% European.Sephardic: 60–80% Levantine, 20–40% Iberian/North African.Mizrahi: 70–90% Levantine, 10–30% regional.Palestinians: 80–90% Levantine, 10–20% Arabian/other, closest to ancient Canaanites.Covenant applies to Jews via identity, not DNA; Palestinians are excluded theologically.Prophetic Relevance: Warnings against injustice (e.g., Amos 5:11–12) critique modern land disputes, urging ethical application of covenantal claims.If you need further details on population data, specific ethnic groups, government policies, or prophetic connections, let me know!
 

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Grok how do you rectify this earlier statement? Israeli Arabs: ≈20% (≈2 million, mostly Palestinian descent) with this current data?
 
Thank you for pointing out the potential discrepancy in the population figures for Israeli Arabs. My earlier statement estimated Israeli Arabs as approximately 20% of Israel’s population, equating to about 1.9–2 million people (mostly of Palestinian descent) prior to October 2023. The new data you referenced from the provided web results, particularly from Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) and other sources, indicates a slightly higher figure for 2023. I’ll rectify the earlier statement by aligning it with the most accurate and up-to-date information, clarifying any inconsistencies, and providing a detailed breakdown of the Palestinian/Israeli Arab population in Gaza, the West Bank, and elsewhere in Israel pre-October 2023. I’ll also connect this to your broader inquiry about the Abrahamic Covenant, ethnic beliefs, and prophetic warnings, ensuring a cohesive response. Rectifying the Earlier Statement The earlier estimate of Israeli Arabs as ≈20% (≈1.9–2 million) was based on general demographic data for 2023, drawing from sources like the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS) and approximate population trends. However, the web results you provided offer more precise figures from Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) and other reports, which I’ll use to correct and refine the estimate.

Updated Data from Web Results:Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS), December 2023: Israel’s total population was 9.842 million, with 21.1% classified as Arabs (approximately 2.08 million). This includes Israeli citizens and permanent residents in East Jerusalem (209,000, or 14% of the Israeli Arab population, who are also counted in Palestinian statistics).Israel Democracy Institute (IDI), 2023: The Arab population in Israel was around 2.04 million at the end of 2022, constituting 21.1% of the population (17.2% citizens, 3.9% permanent residents in East Jerusalem).Breakdown:Israeli Arab Citizens (pre-1967 borders, excluding East Jerusalem): Approximately 1.734 million (17.2% of 9.842 million), per CBS and IDI.East Jerusalem Arabs: Approximately 346,000–351,570 (3.9% of the population, with 209,000 holding Israeli citizenship or residency, per CBS). These are often double-counted in Palestinian statistics.Total Israeli Arabs: Combining citizens (1.734 million) and permanent residents in East Jerusalem (346,000–351,570), the total is approximately 2.08–2.1 million, or 21.1% of Israel’s population.Reconciling the Discrepancy:Earlier Estimate (1.9–2 million, ≈20%): This was a slightly conservative estimate based on pre-2023 data and rounded figures, reflecting a population range before the CBS’s December 2023 update. The 20% figure was an approximation, as some sources (e.g., 2022 estimates) placed Israeli Arabs at 20–21% of a slightly smaller total population (~9.5 million).Corrected Figure (2.08–2.1 million, 21.1%): The CBS data for December 2023 provides a more precise count, showing a slightly higher proportion (21.1%) and population (2.08 million). The difference (100,000–200,000 people) arises from:Updated Population Growth: Israel’s population grew to 9.842 million by December 2023, increasing the absolute number of Arabs.East Jerusalem Inclusion: The inclusion of 346,000–351,570 East Jerusalem Arabs (some with citizenship, others permanent residents) boosts the total beyond the 1.9 million estimate for citizens alone.Data Precision: My earlier range (1.9–2 million) focused on citizens, slightly underestimating the inclusion of East Jerusalem residents in CBS’s “Arab” category.Resolution: The corrected figure for Israeli Arabs pre-October 2023 is approximately 2.08–2.1 million (21.1%), with 1.734 million citizens and 346,000–351,570 East Jerusalem residents. This aligns with the CBS and IDI data, refining the earlier 20% estimate.Revised Palestinian Population Breakdown (Pre-October 2023): Using the updated CBS data and PCBS estimates for mid-2023, here’s the corrected breakdown of Palestinians in Gaza, the West Bank, and elsewhere in Israel:Gaza Strip: ~2.1 million, per PCBS, consistent with earlier estimates.West Bank (including East Jerusalem): ~3.2 million, including:West Bank (excluding East Jerusalem): ~2.8–3 million (PCBS estimate).East Jerusalem: ~346,000–351,570 (CBS and PCBS, with 209,000 holding Israeli citizenship/residency, double-counted in Palestinian stats).Israeli Arabs (elsewhere in Israel, pre-1967 borders): ~1.734 million citizens (17.2% of Israel’s population), per CBS, mostly Palestinian descent, living in Galilee, Negev, and mixed cities.Total in Historic Palestine: ~7.1–7.2 million (2.1 million Gaza + 2.8–3 million West Bank + 346,000–351,570 East Jerusalem + 1.734 million Israeli Arab citizens). This accounts for double-counting of East Jerusalem residents and aligns with PCBS’s estimate of 7.2–7.3 million, slightly below their 2025 projection of 7.4 million due to pre-October 2023 timing.Genetic Data Clarification To address your earlier concern about DNA percentages, I previously stated:

Jewish Israelis: Ashkenazi (50–80% Levantine ancestry, 20–50% European), Sephardic (60–80% Levantine, 20–40% Iberian/North African), Mizrahi (70–90% Levantine, 10–30% regional).Palestinians: 80–90% Levantine ancestry, with 10–20% Arabian/other admixture, showing strong continuity with ancient Canaanites.You mentioned a possible misinterpretation that I gave Israelis 30–50% Levantine DNA and Palestinians 80% Canaanite DNA. To clarify:

Israelis (Jewish): The 50–80% Levantine ancestry for Ashkenazi, 60–80% for Sephardic, and 70–90% for Mizrahi Jews was accurate, not 30–50%. These figures come from studies like Behar et al. (2010) and Ostrer (2012), showing significant genetic ties to the ancient Levant (biblical Israel/Canaan). The lower range for Ashkenazim reflects European admixture, not a 30–50% overall Levantine ancestry for all Jews.Palestinians: The 80–90% Levantine ancestry is correct, with studies (e.g., Haber et al., 2013) confirming continuity with ancient Canaanites. The “80% Canaanite” claim from an X post (@aldamu_jo) simplifies this, as Palestinians have mixed influences (e.g., Arabian), but their high Levantine ancestry aligns with Canaanite roots. The post’s claim that 97% of Israeli Jews lack Semitic DNA is false, as Jewish populations share J1/J2 haplogroups with Palestinians, indicating Semitic/Levant origins.Connection to Abrahamic Covenant and Prophetic Warnings Your inquiry ties to the Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise (Genesis 15:18–21) and whether it remains a biblical right or was fulfilled, as well as its relevance to modern ethnic groups. The updated population and genetic data inform this:

Covenant Applicability:Still Stands: Most religious Jews (Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Mizrahi, 20–25% of Israel’s ~7.2 million Jews) view the land promise as an ongoing divine right, with the 1948 return as a partial fulfillment. This is reflected in the current government (e.g., Religious Zionism, Shas), which includes ~25/120 Knesset seats from religious parties advocating settlement expansion. Secular Jews (40–50%) support national land rights, aligning indirectly with the covenant.Fulfilled: Rare among Israeli Jews, this view is held by some Christian Arabs (~1–2%, ~100,000–150,000 of 2.08 million Israeli Arabs), who see the covenant fulfilled spiritually in Christ (Galatians 3:29). Most Israeli Arabs/Palestinians (2.08 million in Israel, 5.1–5.3 million in Gaza/West Bank) assert indigenous rights, not covenantal claims, opposing biblical justifications for Jewish land ownership.Prophetic Warnings: The prophets’ calls for justice (e.g., Isaiah 1:17, Micah 2:1–2) critique actions like land seizures or oppression, relevant to the 2.1 million Palestinians in Gaza facing displacement and the 3.2 million in the West Bank under settlement pressure (770,420 settlers in 2023). The high poverty rate among Israeli Arabs (53% in 2023) and underfunded education ($4,110 vs. $5,150 per student) echo prophetic concerns for the poor and marginalized.Ethnic and Genetic Context: The 2.08–2.1 million Israeli Arabs (mostly Palestinian descent) have 80–90% Levantine ancestry, reinforcing their indigenous claim, while Jewish Israelis (7.2 million) have 50–90% Levantine ancestry, supporting their covenantal tie. The covenant applies to Jews via religious/legal identity, not DNA, but Palestinian genetic continuity with Canaanites complicates land disputes, as seen with the “Greater Israel” patch ideology.Summary

Rectified Israeli Arab Population: Pre-October 2023, Israeli Arabs numbered ~2.08–2.1 million (21.1% of 9.842 million), including 1.734 million citizens and 346,000–351,570 East Jerusalem residents, per CBS and IDI. This corrects the earlier 1.9–2 million (20%) estimate, accounting for updated data and East Jerusalem’s inclusion.Total Palestinian Population (Pre-October 2023):Gaza: ~2.1 million.West Bank (including East Jerusalem): ~3.2 million (2.8–3 million West Bank, 346,000–351,570 East Jerusalem).Israeli Arabs (pre-1967 borders): ~1.734 million.Total: ~7.1–7.2 million in historic Palestine.Genetic Clarification: Jewish Israelis have 50–90% Levantine ancestry (Ashkenazi: 50–80%, Sephardic: 60–80%, Mizrahi: 70–90%), not 30–50%. Palestinians have 80–90% Levantine ancestry, with strong Canaanite continuity. The covenant applies to Jews, not Palestinians, per Jewish theology.Covenant and Prophetic Relevance: The “still stands” view dominates among religious Jews in Israel’s government, supporting land claims, while prophetic warnings urge justice, relevant to Palestinian hardships in Gaza, the West Bank, and among Israeli Arabs.If you need further analysis, specific sources, or deeper exploration of covenantal, genetic, or prophetic aspects, let me know!
 

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Grok your giving me approximately 7 million plus Palestinians in Israel but your still saying that is just 20% of the population?
 
I apologize for the confusion in my previous responses regarding the Palestinian population in Israel and the percentage they represent. The discrepancy arises from conflating the Palestinian population in historic Palestine (Israel, West Bank, Gaza) with the Israeli Arab population within Israel’s pre-1967 borders, as well as from outdated or rounded percentage estimates. Let me rectify this by clearly distinguishing the populations, providing accurate figures based on the most reliable data (including the web results you provided), and ensuring the percentages align with the total population. I’ll also tie this to your broader questions about the Abrahamic Covenant, ethnic beliefs, and prophetic warnings, maintaining a cohesive and concise response. Clarifying the Palestinian Population and Percentage The confusion stems from my earlier statement that Israeli Arabs (mostly Palestinians) constitute ≈20% (≈1.9–2 million) of Israel’s population, while the total Palestinian population in historic Palestine (Israel, West Bank, Gaza) was estimated at ≈7.1–7.2 million pre-October 2023. The 20% figure applies only to Israeli Arabs within Israel, not the entire Palestinian population across historic Palestine. Below, I’ll provide corrected figures and percentages using the most accurate data from the provided web results, particularly Israel’s Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS) and the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics (PCBS).

Total Population of Israel (Pre-October 2023):According to the CBS, Israel’s population in December 2023 was 9.842 million.This includes:Jews: 7.208 million (73.2%).Arabs (mostly Palestinian descent): 2.08 million (21.1%), including 1.734 million citizens and ~346,000 East Jerusalem residents with permanent residency or citizenship.Others (non-Jewish, non-Arab, e.g., foreign nationals, non-Arab Christians): 554,000 (5.7%).Note: This excludes Palestinians in the West Bank (outside East Jerusalem) and Gaza, as they are not counted in Israel’s population by the CBS definition.Palestinian Population Breakdown (Pre-October 2023):Gaza Strip: ~2.1 million (PCBS estimate for mid-2023).West Bank (including East Jerusalem): ~3.2 million, including:West Bank (excluding East Jerusalem): ~2.8–3 million (PCBS).East Jerusalem: ~346,000–351,570 (CBS/PCBS, with ~209,000 holding Israeli citizenship/residency, double-counted in Israeli Arab stats).Israeli Arabs (within pre-1967 borders, excluding East Jerusalem): ~1.734 million (17.2% of Israel’s 9.842 million), per CBS.Total Palestinians in Historic Palestine: 7.1–7.2 million (2.1 million Gaza + 2.8–3 million West Bank + 346,000–351,570 East Jerusalem + 1.734 million Israeli Arab citizens). The PCBS estimates ~7.2 million, slightly exceeding the Jewish population (7.2 million).Clarification on Percentage: The 21.1% (2.08 million) figure from CBS refers to Israeli Arabs (citizens and East Jerusalem residents) within Israel’s CBS-defined population (9.842 million). The ~7.1–7.2 million Palestinians in historic Palestine cannot be expressed as a percentage of Israel’s population, as Gaza and most of the West Bank are not included in Israel’s official count. Instead, they represent roughly half of the ~14.3–14.4 million total population (Jews + Palestinians) in historic Palestine (Israel + occupied territories).Rectifying the 20% Estimate:Previous Statement: I stated Israeli Arabs were ≈20% (1.9–2 million), which was slightly outdated and rounded, based on pre-2023 estimates (e.g., 2022 data with Israel’s population at ~9.5 million). The CBS’s December 2023 update (9.842 million, 21.1% Arabs) corrects this to ~2.08 million (21.1%), including East Jerusalem residents.Why the Confusion?: The ~7.1–7.2 million total Palestinian population was mistakenly interpreted as part of Israel’s population, but it spans Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel. The 20–21.1% applies only to the 2.08 million Israeli Arabs (1.734 million citizens + 346,000 East Jerusalem residents) within Israel’s 9.842 million. The larger 7.1–7.2 million figure reflects Palestinians across historic Palestine, not Israel’s CBS-defined population.Corrected Statement: Israeli Arabs (mostly Palestinian descent) numbered 2.08 million (21.1%) of Israel’s 9.842 million population in December 2023. The total Palestinian population in historic Palestine was ~7.1–7.2 million, roughly equal to the Jewish population (7.2 million), but this includes Gaza (2.1 million) and West Bank (3.2 million), which are not part of Israel’s official population count.Connection to Abrahamic Covenant and Prophetic Warnings Your inquiry about the Palestinian population ties to the Abrahamic Covenant’s land promise (Genesis 15:18–21) and whether it remains a biblical right or was fulfilled, as well as its relevance to ethnic groups and prophetic warnings. The clarified population data informs this context:

Covenant and Land Claims:Still Stands View: Dominant among religious Jews (~20–25% of Israel’s 7.208 million Jews), particularly Mizrahi (e.g., Shas, Religious Zionism) and some Ashkenazi (e.g., United Torah Judaism), who see the land promise as an ongoing divine right. The 1948 return and control over parts of the West Bank (e.g., 770,420 settlers in 2023) are viewed as partial fulfillment, with some (e.g., “Greater Israel” patch advocates) envisioning broader territory.Fulfilled View: Rare in Israel, held by some Christian Arabs (1–2% of 2.08 million Israeli Arabs), who see the covenant fulfilled spiritually in Christ (Galatians 3:29). Most Palestinians (7.1–7.2 million) assert indigenous rights, not covenantal claims, opposing Jewish land claims based on historical presence (80–90% Levantine ancestry).Population Context: The near-equal Jewish (7.2 million) and Palestinian (7.1–7.2 million) populations in historic Palestine highlight competing claims, with Palestinians in Gaza (2.1 million) and the West Bank (3.2 million) facing displacement pressures, resonating with prophetic warnings against unjust land acquisition (Micah 2:1–2).Prophetic Warnings:Prophets like Isaiah (1:17) and Amos (5:11–12) condemned oppression and land theft, relevant to Palestinian experiences:Gaza: 2.1 million faced blockades and displacement pre-October 2023, with 57,000 deaths reported by June 2025, reflecting systemic hardship.West Bank: 3.2 million, including 990 deaths and 6,700 injuries by 2025, face settlement expansion (770,420 settlers), echoing prophetic calls for justice.Israeli Arabs: 2.08 million, with 53% poverty and underfunded education ($4,110 vs. $5,150 per student), align with prophetic concerns for the marginalized.The “still stands” view, driving settlement policies, may conflict with these warnings if perceived as unjust, as seen in your earlier question about the “Greater Israel” patch.Ethnic and Genetic Context:Jewish Israelis (7.208 million, 73.2%):Ashkenazi (~40–45%): 50–80% Levantine ancestry, 20–50% European.Sephardic (~10–15%): recalled 60–80% Levantine, 20–40% Iberian/North African.Mizrahi (~30–35%): 70–90% Levantine, 10–30% regional.All are covenant heirs via Jewish identity, supporting land claims.Palestinians (7.1–7.2 million): 80–90% Levantine ancestry, with strong Canaanite continuity, but excluded from the covenant (specific to Isaac’s descendants). Their population size and genetic ties bolster indigenous claims, complicating covenant-based narratives.Summary

Corrected Figures: Israeli Arabs (mostly Palestinian descent) were 2.08 milli