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michaelh

Yesterday’s National Pro Life Presidential Conference Call
http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/images/news/alvedaking.trumpmeetswprolifers.900.jpg
[START OF TRANSCRIPT]
Male Speaker: Hello and thank you for joining today’s National Pro-Life Conference Call. This call is not intended for press purposes and is not on the record. If you are a member of the press, please disconnect now. Please note at this time, all audience members are in listen-only mode to minimize background noise. I would like to formally begin today’s call and introduce the President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
Donald J. Trump: Thank you very much and I want to thank all of the thousands of pro-lifers and pro-life leaders, pastors, families and advocates for joining this call and for working with such love and devotion to build a culture that cherishes human life. In recent weeks, events have taken place that have shocked the conscience of our whole nation and this is whether you’re pro-life or anything else you happen to be because what’s happened is terrible. Democratic lawmakers in multiple states have been working to expand extreme late-term abortion. In New York State, legislators cheered with delight for a law that will allow babies to be ripped from the womb of their mother in the ninth month, right up until the moment of birth. Then to take it even a step further, in an incredible event and a horrible event, the Governor of Virginia even stated that he would allow a newborn baby… a baby that was actually outside and as he said, “Wrap the baby, warm the baby,” and then he has a discussion with the mother and the father as to what to do with the baby and we use the word, in the State of the Union, “executed” the baby. That is exactly what it was. It was an execution. This was shocking to everybody and frankly the pro-life leaders… I think your popularity and your cause is going to be actually benefitted by what happened because nobody can believe what he said and what he did.
In both cases, in New York and in Virginia, America must always be a nation that protects the most vulnerable and that defends the very first right in the Declaration of Independence, called the “Right to Life.” Since day one, I have kept my promise to protect unborn children. During my first week in office, I reinstated the Mexican City Policy, so the Mexico City Policy has been reinstated, which as you know other presidents… many presidents were not willing to do but I did it. Last month I signed a letter to Congress to make clear that if they send any legislation to my desk that weakens the protection of human life, I will issue a veto. I’ve taken historic action to protect the conscience rights and religious liberties of doctors and nurses, charities, and faith-based adoption agencies. During my State of the Union address, I asked Congress to pass legislation to prohibit late-term abortion of children who can feel the pain in the mother’s womb. We just have been very, very strong on that and I’m here with a lot of the great friends and the great leaders of the pro-life and I call it a movement, because I think now it’s become a movement more so in the last two weeks than it has been in a long time. It’s now a movement.
I know many of the leaders on this call are working to get this legislation passed, and I believe we’ll be successful. We’ll work very hard and I want to thank you for helping. I also hope that one day we can have a special signing ceremony right here in the Oval Office. If that gets done, we’ll all be together in the Oval Office, we’ll sign it. A few moments ago, I spoke with several families… beautiful stories serve as an inspiration to all of us. They’re actually in my office right now. One of the people who joins us in the Oval Office today is Micah, in name Micah Pickering right in front of me. Beautiful young man. Mika was born at 22 weeks. Today is a healthy… I can tell you that, I’m looking at him, a healthy six-year-old boy filled with energy and filled with life and he’s doing very well. I can say that. Micah, are you good, everything good? The whole world is talking about you right now, Micah. Micah is doing good, he said. We’re also proud to be joined today by Katy Shaw. Katy was born with Down Syndrome and she said, “I’ve made the world a better place.” Katy has actually made the world… she’s right in front of me. She looks fantastic. Katy, I really want to thank you for being here… very, very special. We have thousands of people on this call and they’re all sending their “hello” to Katy Shaw, very, very special. Our nation is uplifted by the incredible Americans like Katy who are powerful advocates for life. Every child born and unborn is made in the holy image of God. Together, we will continue to work for the day when all children have a chance to live and to love and to dream and to reach their full God-given potential.
I want to thank all of the people on the call today. I have a whole group of people in the Oval Office and we’ll be discussing this very important issue. But to all of the pro-life leaders, we respect you and we thank you very much. I think we’ve make a lot of progress in the last two weeks because of horrible things that have been done by the other side. Thank you all for being on the call and I look forward to seeing you and we’ll have signing celebrations and I look forward to having them in the White House. Thank you all very much. Goodbye.
Male Speaker: Thank you all in the audience for joining us today. Again, this call was not intended for press purposes and is not on the record. The call is concluded and you may disconnect.
[END OF TRANSCRIPTION]

Marica

Michael– So the State of KY voted to not allow abortions past the heartbeat–Here’s the part I didn’t HEAR…As a bill “anticipating the overturn of ROE!!!” Thus–NY and all states passing these abortion laws!! THey KNOW!! Legislators KNOW!!! Life –and GOD–Finally WINS!!!! It’s happening!!! IT TRULY IS HAPPENING!!!

judyw

HUGE: Mississippi Legislature Passed Heartbeat Bill
And in the article it mentions they are the second state to ban abortion after a heartbeat is detected, following Iowa. So counting KY that is 3!
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/huge-mississippi-legislature-passed-heartbeat-bill/

Marica

thanks for the count Judy!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We’re fighting back!

michaelh

I know it! I’m a thinker not a feeler, but something different this time. I can feel it. It’s going to break through. We’ve gotta get that big mess in SCOTUS cleaned up Barr nothing!!!

Marica

get it!! I am obviously the feeler vs thinker–however–WE are GONNA WIN! WE ARE WINNING!! Fist bump darlin!!! You get to tell your kids–I was part of this war– and I fought for you!!!

phoenixRising

In case you missed it…

Linda

Thanks, Michael. I’ve been wondering if there was a transcript of the call. God bless POTUS for doing this.

michaelh

It came out today – and thank goodness because my notes were terrible!
He only spoke for about ten minutes but he crammed a lot in that time. Very disciplined speaker – anyone who thinks he isn’t doesn’t have public speaking experience. He is fabulous at extemporaneous speeches and keeps everyone’s attention. If it were easy, everyone would do it 😉

SingularZoe

Apppreciate it, tried to get on the call, but it was full.

SingularZoe

Thank you;

churchmouse

Michael, was there any link with that?
I would like to post it on my own site.
Thanks in advance.

michaelh

I think it would be great if you shared it on your own site!
The transcript was emailed as a Microsoft Word .doc attachment, which contained only the text above. I can forward the .doc to you if you like – I’ll need an email address. But I did do a good job copying so it would probably be easiest to just take what I posted here. I kept the formatting.
The image I pulled from another site (I think from Alveda King):
http://www.breakingchristiannews.com/articles/display_art.html?ID=27009
BTW you will notice that it has press disclaimers. You are not the press.
You are the news now.

churchmouse

Thank you, Michael — much appreciated.
I’ll lift the text from here.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HALLELUJAH AND AMEN!!!

michaelh

Mmmm delicious 🙂

Gil
Gail Combs

DROOoooooolL
I am just sipping my first cup of tea and have not had breakfast yet…
Now I want CHOCOLATE!

GA/FL

Perfect for George Washington’s Birthday on Monday!

Kalbo

And Abraham Lincoln:-)

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I DON’T CARE – I’M TAKIN’ TWO!!! 😉

Sylvia Avery

Oh, I believe I’ll have to try one of these also. With a nice cup of coffee.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES! Coffee! 😎

Sylvia Avery

I pretty much adore anything that marries cherry and chocolate. And then you add cheesecake! Wowza!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

In heaven, the Cherry Mash candies are FREE!!! 😉

Sylvia Avery

Oh Wheatie, those look delicious! Thank you, I will have one!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wheatie brings snacks on the weekends!

amwick

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I got mine…. TY

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! 🙂

judyw

This is the testimony of Melissa Ohden who was recently on the Hannity Radio Show and Fox & Friends.
She is the survivor of a saline abortion. On November 20th, 2013 Melissa came to the University of Minnesota to give her testimony. The event was sponsored by Students for Human Life at the University of Minnesota. There is a short Q & A session near the end of the video.

Alison

This was fascinating, Judy. She is a natural and gifted speaker. I am grateful she is educating people to her most precious beginnings. Truly a miracle.

judyw

Absolutely a miracle and I love that she is speaking to college students…she is lovely from the inside out!

Sylvia Avery

She has quite a story to tell and she tells it well. I hope we see her EVERYWHERE. People need to see her and hear her story.

Plain Jane

Really interestingstory. Most of the abortion survivors’ stories don’t go into the depths of the psychological aspects as this did. Thank you for posting Judy.

kea

Wow I just watched the entire video. She is a great speaker. This was so sad and shocking and… wow.
I found her comment interesting about people saying no to adoption but yes to abortion.
Here is her website by the way: https://melissaohden.com/

judyw

Oh, thanks for the link to her website!

kea

No problem. 🙂

michaelh

With so many alternative media options out there, it can be easy to drown in a sea of articles, postings, comments, tweets, and likes – all of which are poisoned and corrupted by the ever-present and seemingly omnipotent FAKE NEWS…
http://yoursocialmediamogul.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/BURIED-in-social-media-artsy.png
It can be easy to miss some great gems hidden in plain site.
http://illuminationconsulting.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/hidden-gems.jpg
Please take a moment and share your top picks by replying in a comment.
Questions:
1. What are your favorite Websites for news, analysis, or op-eds?
Yes, we already know WQTH is #1 😉 But what others?
2. Which social media or sharing sites do you find the most useful?
Twitter, Gab, Facebook, Minds, or are we missing something important?
3. Which State and Local sites are overlooked that people need to pay attention to?
National news is great, but America is much bigger than just what is happening in the Beltway or in New York City. It’s also about what’s happening in Des Moines and Oklahoma City, and what is happening in rural Nebraska, in Appalachia, in the Ozarks. What important stories are being missed because the MSM doesn’t travel to “flyover states”?
4. What are the best sources for international news that you follow?
In particularly, which ones that are tracking with the global nationalist movement?
In the United States, we are particularly starved for on-the-ground reporting from other nations. How can we have solid international insight when our news agencies are bureaued in Washington, D.C.?
Obviously English language sites are preferred for our community where possible.
If you live outside the United States, please chime in with the sources of news, analysis, and opinion that you think represent the best of your nation.
News from every nation is welcome! However with current events we are particularly interested in any of the following:
France
Venezuela
South Africa
Taiwan
South Korea
China
… and many others.
Please take a moment and share your thoughts – Thanks in Advance!
1. What are your favorite Websites for news, analysis, or op-eds?
2. Which social media or sharing sites do you find the most useful?
3. Which State and Local sites are overlooked that people need to pay attention to?
4. What are the best sources for international news that you follow?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m trying to catch up and keep up here. So glad to see familiar treepers. What happened at CTH? I don’t feel the old fun there anymore.
Anyway, my major news gathering site is the cesspool known as Twitter. By following people I respect I can usually keep up with breaking news, as well as analysis.
Truthfully though, I’m expecting to leave sooner rather than later. I do have a Gab account and have you all heard of https://social.quodverum.com? They toot instead of tweet. 😊
I also like https://www.amgreatness.com for good articles.
Anyway, I’ve been out of the Q loop for a bit. Hard for me to figure things out, but I do my best.

Marica

grandtexas!! Welcome!!!! I also go to twitter–so don’t feel bad!! This is THE BEST site for Positivity and Real News!! We are WAY ahead of the “News” here–More importantly–We are SUPER Supportive of VSGPDJT!– and we DO NOT Eeyore here!! It’s a great site!! Glad you found us!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m glad too! Thank you.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Waving!!! Hello, GrandMainTexas!
We found a real refugee!
Glad you are here with us.

bflyjesusgrl

Welcome Gma, glad you found us. The best of us hang out here where the atmosphere is truly uplifting and informative. Good for the soul🤗🤗

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes. I have a very sweet and godly friend who exudes love and joy. It’s so much fun to be around her. That’s what it feels like here. 😊

bflyjesusgrl

Amen!

Aubergine

Now THAT is a nice compliment for our site!
Welcome to the Q Tree! Glad you found us here. There is lots to read, and many cheerful and positive people. Smart ones, too.
I learn something every day.

Sylvia Avery

Grandmaintexas! So glad you are here! Good to see you!
As for what happened Over There, none of us really knows. The tone and tenor changed. Many were banned. For no reason, no rule breaking, no notice. We just couldn’t comment or like comments anymore. Some were banned AFTER they started posting here, as if this place were being monitored and those who showed up here were immediately rooted out Over There.
We don’t know why. Everyone has a theory or two. But welcome to the Q Tree and enjoy!
It has been upsetting, but this place is positive and speech is free, so by now most of us feel quite at home here.

amwick

I watch twitter… via tweetdeck. I am surprised how many people do not use it…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amwick, I used to have tweetdeck, but then it went into changes which were incompatible for me, so a friend recommended Hootsuite. It’s worked fine, very similar to Tweetdeck.
Twitter is my main source for news – following enough good folks that I catch the tidbits. I like American Thinker articles. Actually subscribe to Epoch Times now and get print version. Get WSJ too – though it’s only worth it to my hubby for financial news. The rest makes clear how Wall Street sold out to the globalists. Anything to do with politics is always slanted against not only POTUS, but negative toward traditional America values and traditions.
The MSM is the antithesis of reinforcing traditional culture, not only of the USA, but other nations as well – that’s the big takeaway in today’s world.

kea

grandmaintexas welcome!!!!!! 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you!

Jan Phillips

Grandma in Texas!!!!!!! So good to see you!!!

coosmama

Reddit the_donald. Need that crisp, current, political humor. Sometimes a little rough around the edges in the comments, but straight up truth.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great questions! I’ll get back on answering this in a while!
In answer to your prior question (older thread), I have no problem with any number, size, or amounts of postings on the daily threads – NONE! If you’re happy with the current situation, great!
If you wanted to do those posts as articles as an AUTHOR, you would probably want to limit yourself to 1-3 per day, but I’m just guessing there, because if a style of 3-5 smaller articles daily with fewer responses worked, then that’s fine, too. I’m a believer in trying things and seeing what ACTUALLY happens.
I think that the daily threads, however, get LOTS of traffic, including by people who actually take notes and report back to places, including GOOD places. So frankly I would encourage you to maybe consider doing BOTH. Continue to do most of your posting that you want to be picked up by white hats and read by a lot of people in the daily thread, but do occasional articles or maybe one per day as an author.
What do you think? 😀

Marica

I think you are you are Brilliant! #Beautiful mind!! Let Wolfie be Wolfie!

michaelh

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Sure, what do I have to lose? 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WP invitation is in the mail!

michaelh

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Gudthots

Uh Oh.

Sylvia Avery

Great questions. I’m looking forward to seeing the answers.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

1. What are your favorite Websites for news, analysis, or op-eds?
Won’t say, but one that is highly overlooked is thelibertydaily.com
2. Which social media or sharing sites do you find the most useful?
QTH, Twitter, Gab. Up and coming: social.quodverum.com, freetalk.app, spreely.com
3. Which State and Local sites are overlooked that people need to pay attention to?
Miami Herald is great, but has some very annoying libtards as well
4. What are the best sources for international news that you follow?
OAN has WAY more international news than most other broadcast networks
I really like the Daily Mail as well.

Pat Frederick

I check out citizen free press, whatfinger, and liberty daily after i see what’s what here 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m actually a headline skimmer. I look at Citizen Free Press, Drudge, sometimes Free Republic. I like to see what others think is important, much of which isn’t.
I like Daily Wire for analysis.
Twitter is still the site for following even if a lot of people have been banned. I don’t post right now, just follow the big names.

amwick

I only have a couple place that I visit… for legal stuff I go to https://legalinsurrection.com/
They also do articles on current events,,,
One of the regular commenters there introduced me to twitter… via tweetdeck…
She got banned, long story.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I used to love LS, but they were so NeverTrumper, and Professor Jacobson, who I liked so much, was letting some of the longtime posters run with nasty remarks against those of us who supported DJT. In fact, I remember sending him an email about it – finally just left.
Occas. I catch their articles in RT. LS must have improved on their perspective?

judyw

LP I also used to love Legal Insurrection and had actually forgotten about the site. There have been so many that I loved until I didn’t and just moved on to others. It’s totally fascinating to me how our attention is guided from place to place and I have observed so many that proven themselves to be “Limited Hangouts” and that has helped me to not hang around just because I found value in the past but to feel free to stop in to test the energy when I’m inspired to.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes, It’s LI, not LS. 🙂 Right, LI was a great site, and William Jacobson an excellent mind. The never trumpers crossed a line, IMO, and once that was allowed, it drove me off. It’s one thing to have reasoned discourse, but they were allowed to be nasty towards others who didn’t agree with them.

Sue Mcdonald

I spend a lot of time on the 8 chan board ,but get a lot of news from twitter from others who post articles. Also American Thinker ,PJ media and Powerline are good. American greatness I like also. I receive the Trumpet news letter in my email which is good for international news. and you tube I like for a lot of Q decodes. I left social media like face book a long time ago after having articles I would post yanked.

GA/FL

I like Doug Ross – http://directorblue.blogspot.com – has a daily compilation of stories/news and a great Quote of the Day! Ross is a long-time seasoned truth warrior – and made these great lists:
List of Obama administration abuses of power and lawbreaking – http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/06/president-barack-obamas-complete-list.html
Timeline of Sedition and Treason: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2017/12/a-timeline-of-treason-how-fbi.html

Weasel Zippers – https://www.weaselzippers.us They catch a lot of the nitty gritty. Great MAGA folks, social conservative and Christian fellowship – took me in when I was banned OT – but does get wild and raunchy in the late hours with cussing and cheesecake – not the eating kind, IYKWIM.

American Thinker is great – has some astute writers and commenters – and they are political, fiscal and social conservatives. I love Clarice’s Sunday column there.
http://www.americanthinker.com – *


Also love Front Page Magazine – you can’t beat their writers for major truth! Dan Greenfield is brilliant!
http://www.frontpagemag.com

GA/FL

My twitter news comes mainly from these:
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*https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/ – *

*https://twitter.com/BerelIndig – author of suspended Wired Sources
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Kalbo

First visit in the morning (and throughout the day), WQTH.
Then, skim through and cherry pick articles on American Thinker, Gateway Pundit, Liberty, Epoch, Whatfinger, Rantingly and BB.
Lurk at CTH mainly to see President Trump when he gaggles the press to make statements and Q&A. Straight unfiltered information from President Trump is great.
Enjoy Twitter stuff folks occasionally post.
What I don’t do is MSM, FB, Twitter, local stuff.
In our world here, as I view it anyway, thankful for the information, insights, cool stories, friendly atmosphere and decent folks here on WQTH. Thanks all.

CM in TN

I tend to catch headlines and stories at Zero Hedge. I come here for the analysis and research, this is my “home port”, so to speak. I no longer use social media, but follow a lot of twitter threads from here. As far as local stuff, I read Tennessee Star everyday. It has some original stuff and aggregate stuff from Daily Caller and other sites. I tend to read over at RT occasionally…they have some descent documentaries. I follow Survivalblog.com daily and tend to catch my radio news on WMAL out of D.C. as I’m from Maryland and worked in D.C. for many years…big fan of Chris Plante.

rayzorbak

I watch the X22 Report on YouTube Daily….
Also follow on YouTube:
SpaceShot76
In Pursuit of Truth
IntheMatrixxx
Also follow:
Qmap.pub (Duh)
Lisa Mei Crowley Twitter Feed
Praying Medic Twitter Feed
and…..
MANY links supplied HERE by fellow Q Treepers.

Gil

Lol. We have a lot of these around! Theyd have to actually like America and maybe eat a cookie.
Saturday is : “NATIONAL DO A GROUCH A FAVOR DAY
Everyone knows a grouch, and some of us may even be guilty of being one.  February 16th is a call to kindness in the name of a grouch.  On National Do a Grouch a Favor Day, you can do something to make their day much better.
For some, it’s in their nature to be grouches all of the time; while others may just be having a rough day or two.  On National Do a Grouch a Favor Day, we have an opportunity to turn the grouches frown upside down.”comment image

Gil

Stick this up your drought and climate change Newsom.
With ‘Most Snow in North America,’ Mammoth Announces Resort Will Stay Open Through July 4
About 140 miles (225 kilometers) southeast of Lake Tahoe, Mammoth Mountain was about to break a more than 30-year record for monthly snowfall, resort spokesman Justin Romano said. Skiers and snowboarders should be able to reach the slopes as long as they have chains or snow tires, he said.
The resort has already gotten 163 inches (414 centimeters) of snow this month, just 5 inches shy of its snowfall record for February, set in 1986.
The storms heavily damaged — and in some places destroyed — parts of roads leading to Idyllwild and other mountain communities about 100 miles (161 kilometers) east of Los Angeles, but access was not cut off.
Crews were starting repairs on State Routes 74 and 243. A route combining surviving portions of the two mountain highways and a county road kept the communities connected to the world, but authorities urged outsiders to leave the tenuous route to residents.
https://ktla.com/2019/02/15/another-storm-cycle-brings-whiteout-conditions-to-sierra-nevada-impacting-mammoth-and-tahoe-ski-resorts/

JasonD

Hopefully THE STORM will sweep away ALL the globull warmanist detritus into the sewers of history, along with the swamp, the treasonous scum, the commie filth and the demonic baby murders infesting this beautiful garden of LIFE.

Gil

Massive storms. This is a winter like I used to have as a kid. Mr gil says the same. It would be a nice thing to wake up to a free CA!

JasonD

It is hard to choose freedom. California chose it once, and can do so again.
If President Trump can do what I think he is capable of, he will open enough eyes into full WAKEFULNESS for freedom to be the only conscious choice to be made by functioning humans.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

People in these parts are getting nostalgic for winters with lots of snow, too. My mother claims there have been many, yes, but every now and then there was a mild one with no snow. I remember quite a mixture.

Gail Combs

“…Mammoth Mountain was about to break a more than 30-year record for monthly snowfall….”
Remember that glaciation is NOT started by cold weather but by increased snow fall that does not melt in the spring.
What causes increased snow fall?
Loopy or meridonal Jet stream allow warm moist tropical air to combine with cold polar air and cause major blizards that dump massive amounts of snow.
What causes the Jets to go from straight west to east to wandering up and down the continent and dumping lots of snow on us?
Changes in solar energy. That is changes in the wavelength distribution.
TSI (total Solar Irradiation) what Climate Disinfo Agents use, treats all energy the same. They like TSI because it changes very little (Δ = 0.1%) and therefore they can discard changes in the sun as being a major influence on climate. However different wavelenghs have different effects on the earth’s climate.
An example of JUST ONE aspect of our variable sun on climate.

Solar radiation at 130–175 nm (Schumann-Runge continuum) is completely absorbed in the thermosphere. Over activity cycles 21–23, solar radiative flux in this spectral range varied by about 10–15% (Figure 5a), i.e., by more than a factor of 100 more than solar cycle variations in the solar total energy flux (total solar irradiance). In the oxygen Schumann-Runge bands (175–200 nm) and Herzberg continuum (200–242 nm), important for photochemical ozone production and destruction in the stratosphere and mesosphere, solar irradiance varied on average by about 5–8% (Figure 5b)
. In the Hartley-Huggins ozone bands between 200 and 350 nm, solar radiation is the main heat source in the stratosphere. At these wavelengths, the amplitude of the solar cycle variation is of the order of 1%, which is still an order of magnitude stronger than variations of the total solar irradiance.
http://www.mps.mpg.de/projects/sun-climate/data.html

http://www.oxidationsystems.com/products/ozone_formation.GIF
ΔUV(1)(2) ===> ΔOzone (3) ===> ΔStratospheric Temperature(4) ===> Δtropopause height(4) + Δ wind strength of jets(5) and motion**(6) + Δstrength of the stratospheric vortex (7)(8) + ΔOzone hole (9)
(Δ = Changes in)
The footnotes (1) thru (9) I will put in next comment.

Gail Combs

REFERENCES 1 – 5:
(1) NASA 2007 before the deep solar minimum.: ” In recent years, SIM has collected data that suggest the sun’s brightness may vary in entirely unexpected ways… “We have never had a reason until now to believe that parts of the spectrum may vary out of phase with the solar cycle, but now we have started to model that possibility because of the SIM results,” …
“Between 2004 and 2007, the Solar Irradiance Monitor (blue line) measured a decrease in ultraviolet radiation (less than 400 nanometers) that was a factor of four to six larger than expected.”
(wwwDOT)nasa.gov/topics/solarsystem/features/solarcycle-sorce.html
(2)NASA 2009 “…A 12-year low in solar “irradiance”: Careful measurements by several NASA spacecraft show that the sun’s brightness has dropped by 0.02% at visible wavelengths and 6% at extreme UV wavelengths since the solar minimum of 1996….” science(DOT)nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2009/01apr_deepsolarminimum/
(3)Solar Spectral Irradiance Data

Research and Applications
Because of selective absorption and scattering processes in the Earth’s atmosphere, different regions of the solar spectrum affect Earth’s climate in distinct ways. Approximately 20-25% of the Total Solar Irradiance (TSI) is absorbed by atmospheric water vapor, clouds, and ozone, by processes that are strongly wavelength dependent. Ultraviolet radiation at wavelengths below 300 nm is completely absorbed by the Earth’s atmosphere and contributes the dominant energy source in the stratosphere and thermosphere, establishing the upper atmosphere’s temperature, structure, composition, and dynamics. Even small variations in the Sun’s radiation at these short wavelengths will lead to corresponding changes in atmospheric chemistry. Radiation at the longer visible and infrared wavelengths penetrates into the lower atmosphere, where the portion not reflected is partitioned between the troposphere and the Earth’s surface, and becomes a dominant term in the global energy balance and an essential determinant of atmospheric stability and convection.
lasp(dot)colorado.edu/home/sorce/data/ssi-data/

(4)Changes in Ozone and Stratospheric Temperature
http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/features/200402_tango/ozone_temperature_graph.gif

The graph above shows total ozone and stratospheric temperatures over the Arctic since 1979. Changes in ozone amounts are closely linked to temperature, with colder temperatures resulting in more polar stratospheric clouds and lower ozone levels. Atmospheric motions drive the year-to-year temperature changes. The Arctic stratosphere cooled slightly since 1979, but scientists are currently unsure of the cause….
(wwwDOT)giss.nasa.gov/research/features/200402_tango/

(5)CHARACTERISTICS OF THE GENERAL CIRCULATION OF THE ATMOSPHERE AND THE GLOBAL DISTRIBUTION OF TOTAL OZONE AS DETERMINED BY THE NIMBUS III SATELLITE INFRARED INTERFEROMETER SPECTROMETER

Ozone is an important atmospheric trace constituent. The depletion of solar radiation between approximately 2000 and 3000 A is the result of strong absorption by ozone in the ultraviolet wave-lengths. The energy absorbed in this process is the prime source of thermal energy in the stratosphere. Because of this, ozone plays an important role in the large-scale motions of the atmosphere….
….A strong correlation was found between the meridional gradient of total ozone and the wind velocity in jet stream systems
…..

Gail Combs

REFERENCES 6 – 9:
(6)Top-Down Solar Modulation of Climate: evidence for centennial-scale change

The work presented here is consistent with the interpretation of a recently reported effect [25] of solar variability on the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO) and European winter temperatures over the interval 1659–2010 in terms of top-down modulation of the blocking phenomenon [52, 53]. In fact, Woollings et al [26] show that the solar response pattern is, despite being similar in form to that of the NAO, significantly different in that it reaches further east. These authors also show that open solar flux has a much stronger control over blocking events in this sector than the previously reported effect of F10.7 [55]. There is seasonality in the solar responses reported here. This is expected as modulation of upwards-propagating planetary waves in wintertime, and the associated stratosphere– troposphere interaction, is most widely believed to be the key mechanism [8, 11]. In addition, the tropospheric signature is a response of the eddy-driven jet streams, and these are at their strongest and most responsive in winter. While the results are presented here as annual means, the regression analysis was actually carried out on monthly mean data and thus takes this seasonality into account. The seasonal evolution of the F10.7 cm flux regression was described in detail by Frame and Gray [53] and this was not significantly affected by using either the open solar flux FS nor the cosmic ray flux, M, instead of F10.7.”
http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/5/3/034008/pdf/1748-9326_5_3_034008.pdf

(7a)The NAO Troposphere–Stratosphere Connection “Using monthly mean data, daily data, and theoretical arguments, relationships between surface pressure variations associated with the North Atlantic Oscillation (NAO), tropopause height, and the strength of the stratospheric vortex are established.”
(8)Quasi-biennial oscillation and solar cycle influences on winter Arctic total ozone

Abstract
The total column ozone (TCO) observed from satellites and assimilated in the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts since 1979 is used as an atmospheric tracer to study the modulations of the winter Arctic stratosphere by the quasi-biennial oscillation (QBO) and the solar cycle. It is found that both the QBO and solar forcings in low latitudes can perturb the late winter polar vortex, likely via planetary wave divergence, causing an early breakdown of the vortex in the form of sudden stratospheric warming. As a result, TCO within the vortex in late winter can increase by ~60 Dobson unit during either a solar maximum or an easterly phase of the QBO, or both, relative to the least perturbed state when the solar cycle is minimum and the QBO is in the westerly phase. In addition, from the solar maximum to the solar minimum during the QBO easterly phase, the change in TCO is found to be statistically insignificant. Therefore, the “reversal” of the Holton–Tan effect, reported in some previous studies using lower stratospheric temperature, is not evident in the TCO behavior of both observation and assimilation.
onlinelibrary(DOT)wiley.com/doi/10.1002/2013JD021065/abstract

(9)Climate System Response to Stratospheric Ozone Depletion and Recovery

Compared to well-mixed greenhouse gases (GHGs), the radiative forcing of climate due to observed stratospheric ozone loss is very small: in spite of this, recent trends in stratospheric ozone have caused profound changes in the Southern Hemisphere (SH) climate system, primarily by altering the tropospheric midlatitude jet, which is commonly described as a change in the Southern Annular Mode. Ozone depletion in the late twentieth century was the primary driver of the observed poleward shift of the jet during summer, which has been linked to changes in tropospheric and surface temperatures, clouds and cloud radiative effects, and precipitation at both middle and low latitudes. It is emphasized, however, that not all aspects of the SH climate response to stratospheric ozone forcing can be understood in terms of changes in the midlatitude jet. The response of the Southern Ocean and sea ice to ozone depletion is currently a matter of debate. ….
(wwwDOT)columbia.edu/~lmp/paps/previdi+polvani-QJRMS-2014-inpress.pdf

GA/FL

I’ll have to take your word for it GC. But your word is one I have come to respect and trust over the years!

JasonD

I LOVE hanging out with adults free thinkers, as opposed to grumpy TOT’s (Them Over There, The Other Tree) who revel in misery …
Another h/t AND Kudos to our host, the inestimable Wolfmoon, for having the foresight to create this place of camaraderie, free exchange of ideas and a calm port in a stormy world, especially now that THE STORM is clearly building into something to behold.

Gil
JasonD

🙂 🙂 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you!!! 😀 It has been my pleasure, and I must admit, that since others have stepped in to help me, this light burden has now become a true joy!!! <3

coosmama

Is there anything more fun than a Q drop?!? I learn so much from you guys! Thanks again for the page Wolf 🙂

Marica

hey cmama!! THere is NOTHING better than a Q Drop!! Welcome!! and glad you are here!!

coosmama

Thanks! After lurking at OT for so long, it is great to see all of these familiar names! A little scary actually posting, coz now I’m on a list! HA!

Marica

We gonna love you here!!! Wolfie has scary name– but He will NEVER BAN anybody!! Smile and post all ya want!! We ARE DEPLORABLES!! AND LOVE OUR POTUS!!!

Sylvia Avery

LOL, welcome home!

bflyjesusgrl

Don’t be scurred, we won’t bite😋😜

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

You’re welcome! 😀

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And NO – there is not much that is as immediately exciting as a Q drop!!! 😉

JasonD

Yeah, you have built something special here.
And all the volunteers are testimony to that …
So kudos to Wheatie, TTT, Steve, Daughn, Dep Pat, Aubergine and of course Flep (hope I have not forgotten anyone …) for sharing their time, energy and imagination to help out our awesome host.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

…. and Jason D!

Kalbo

And Daughn….:-)

CM in TN

I’ve found most of the commenters and researchers from OT that I enjoyed following are all here now. I’ve noticed many others continuing to make their way here as well. I do miss FofBW, LP1, and Bull though…

Gil
Marica

Gil!! Awesome POST!! I cannot believe this!!! Censoring THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES–could have ramifications–? Ya think?

michaelh

lulz what an incredibly STUPID thing to do… popcorn!

Marica

I want extra butter!! and snowcaps!!

JasonD

Isn’t “These people are stupid” something we have heard once or twice? 🙂

coosmama

Look what has been happening to Intellectual Froglegs. He’s been banned/chased all over the internet. This just fuels the storm!

coosmama

Exceptions
Finally, the prohibitions contained in section 1201 are subject to a number of exceptions. One is an exception to the operation of the entire section, for law enforcement, intelligence and other governmental activities. (Section 1201(e)).
Does this mean the DMCA doesn’t apply to trump? if it does, then twitter has no ground to stand on. Let me go find the one about the President’s tweets belonging to the Archive.

coosmama

This is illegal. https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-02-19/donald-trumps-tweets-are-now-presidential-records
Because they are presidential records, they are protected and belong to the library of congress, Twitter has no authority to delete them. Furthermore…the CEO said he would do no such thing because they are considered “newsworthy”
http://fortune.com/2017/11/09/donald-trump-twitter-jack-dorsey/
p.s. I totally copy/pasted this from reddit comments. Full disclosure 🙂

JasonD

Thanks for sharing – very informative 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

When I left to go make dinner, the Carpe Donktum video had already been shared 2.2 MILLION times.
Gotta admit, it was a good one!

michaelh

“They are attempting to Seize the Memes of Production.”
LOL Yes!

drillerelite

So my Mother in law, aka Honorable Mother, got ahold of my email today. She said that she just wanted to share quotes that her husband had collected. Here’s an example –
“If to please the people , we offer what we ourselves disbelieve, how can we afterwards defend our work? It is our task to raise a standard to which the wise and honest may repair, recognizing that the event is in the hands of God. ”
                                                               George Washington
Imagine my astonishment when her 2nd email to me was to ask my opinion on these sites,
https://www.whatfinger.com/
and this story –
https://tsionizm.com/analysis/2019/02/15/as-the-jewish-state-and-the-guardians-of-islams-holy-places-draw-closer-the-fate-of-the-world-hangs-in-the-balance/
Never realized how woke she really is, I hadn’t heard of that tsionizm site but that is an amazing article.
1st two paragraphs:
As American media was reporting on a fake actor who faked his own assault and a fake border security bill that will not secure the border, something actually quite interesting was happening in Warsaw in the presence of such minor American functionaries as Secretary of State Pompeo and Vice President Pence. The Warsaw conference on peace and security in the Middle East dealt primarily with the Iranian threat to that region and its highlights were undoubtedly the unprecedented signs of continued thaw in relations between Israel, represented at the highest level by prime minister Netanyahu, and the states of the Arabian Peninsula, represented at the foreign minister level.
It was not very long ago that the foreign ministers of such countries as Bahrain, Oman, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, and Saudi Arabia went out of their way to not find themselves in the same room with an Israeli government official, let alone shake his hand. In the last few days, these same people had dinner with Netanyahu, the Omani foreign minister met him privately in his hotel room, and the Yemeni offered him his mic at a press conference when Netanyahu’s mic failed. If this is what these most calculating of men allowed to break the surface, we can only imagine what was taking place under wraps.
…it goes on, thank you God for a VSGPD
                                                             

Linda

Wow! Of course, none of our Fake News breathed a word about this. Something I read somewhere today that PM Netanyahu’s plane had a minor crash but he was okay. Did anyone hear about that? It really made my spidey senses go off, considering Q mentioned the possibility of false flags.

Sylvia Avery

Wow, did not hear that. TY for reporting, Linda.

drillerelite

I didn’t hear about that and had to look it up. Wapo has a piece, FTA:
The prime minister and his entire entourage were on-board a chartered El Al plane shortly after midnight, after a two-day visit to a high-profile security conference, when a vehicle towing the aircraft on the runway crashed into it. A photo circulated to traveling journalists showed large scrapes in the underbelly of the aircraft.
The article goes on to report about his ‘tumultuous’ visit,
Netanyahu had hoped to use the gathering to showcase his budding ties with the Gulf Arabs. But a verbal gaffe and a video leaked by his office threatened to overshadow the event.
On the eve of the meeting, Netanyahu appeared to call on other participants to prepare for “war with Iran.” His office later said he had been mistranslated and only called on other countries to “combat” Iranian influence in the region.
Late Thursday, his office briefly leaked a video showing Bahrain’s foreign minister, and representatives of Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates playing down the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and harshly criticizing Iran.
Netanyahu’s office said the video’s release was a “technical error” and quickly deleted it.
I can’t figure out if this ‘technical error’ was meant to undermine Israel or or was a calculated move on their part. The media reports on them about as fairly as they do PDJT.

drillerelite

He’s going to have his own AF1 soon, hopefully that will increase his security
https://tsionizm.com/news/2019/02/13/israel-to-get-its-first-ever-air-force-one/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

How cool is that!
Good news!

JasonD

Awesome news Driller, thanks for that!!

bflyjesusgrl

Miss Wheatie!!!! OMG!!!😮 😮 this is the MOST BEAUTIFULEST tree I have ever seen!!! You may not know, but I am truly a flower freak 🌹 🌺 🌸. Love my flowers and gardening!!! You even put me in the picture, thank you 😃🦋🦋🦋

bflyjesusgrl

It’s soooo Pretty, I Love it!!😍😍

Sylvia Avery

It IS a wonderful choice! I’ve been living in a snowbank for about ten days so the sight of flowers and stuff kind of makes my heart sing.

Aubergine

Ugh, me, too! Snow and more snow.
I love to garden, and about this time of year, I REALLY start to get the itch. So hard not to jump the gun and start my veggies indoors too early.
I love the beautiful pictures Wheatie posts.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Sleeping with seed catalogs under my pillow!

Alison

I ooh’d and ah’d at your beautiful flower garden too, Wheatie. Spring is most definitely in the air at the QTree 💖💖

Pat Frederick

I totally agree!!!
Beautiful springtime tree!!!
we got more snow here this past week so just white everywhere here…

judyw

Jill Stanek is an American anti abortion activist and nurse from Illinois best known for saying “live birth abortions” were being performed at Christ Hospital in the Chicago suburb of Oak Lawn.
Stanek gained initial prominence in 1999 when she testified that, while she worked as a nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois, infants that survived induced labor abortions were abandoned to die in a utility room. These allegations led to a formal investigation by the Illinois Department of Public Health, which stated that the hospital violated no state laws. Shortly thereafter, Advocate Health Care changed its policy on induced labor abortions, barring its use against fetuses with non-lethal developmental issues.
At the signing ceremony for the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002, President George W. Bush named Stanek in his speech, publicly thanking her for being in attendance
Stanek also generated national news during the 2008 Presidential campaign when publicizing Barack Obama’s four votes against Illinois’ Born Alive Infants Protection Act while a state senator as well as his state senate floor testimony. She posted a vote tally on her blog showing that, during a March 12, 2003, meeting of the Illinois State Senate’s Health and Human Services Committee, Committee Chairman Barack Obama prevented the passage of an amendment to Bill 1082 that would have conveyed “the rights of personhood upon any fetus expelled or extracted from the womb if that fetus was capable of breathing or voluntary motion.”
Here Jill tells her story of exposing live births after abortions to the Right To Life Australia group….

CHI->AZ : Improvise, Adapt and Overcome

NIGHT SHIFT with the Q ball
President Trump and his administration are “moving rapidly” .comment image

judyw

Chatter – Bill & Hillary’s ‘public’ health will begin to rapidly deteriorate. Q
Is this what Q meant?comment image

michaelh

That picture is incredible!
So many times these kinds of pictures are obvious Photoshops b/c they have Bill and Hillary’s heads reversed! Like people can’t see the problem there…

Pat Frederick

oh my goodness!!!!
i hope no one was seriously hurt!

drillerelite

Whoa, I didn’t realize so many Californians had moved to Kansas

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Spit!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m not sure if anybody knows this, but is Cory a man or a woman? LOL. Just…. not…. sure.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK – I will take your word for it! 😀
I’m just not seein’ all the tells I usually look for, and it may be my imagination, but some things just look a bit wrong…..
*looks at own Adam’s apple in mirror*

drillerelite

If the pic with the pistol in the waistband is any indication, that’s gotta be a chick

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
drillerelite

When Chuck Norris gives you the finger, he’s telling you how many seconds you have left to live.

Pat Frederick

thanks for the smiles this morning!!

drillerelite

Precious

judyw

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judyw
Sylvia Avery

If true. I’ll wait and see. I’m convinced by this time that Ryan is an utter snake and I’d believe almost anything about him.
Pence? Not so much. He has attracted his own special pool of haters who gun for him constantly. I haven’t seen anything convincing against him. So far. At all. So I’ll keep my powder dry, but keep an eye on him. If he’s involved, boy is he gonna be sorry.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

See my post below about the FIB possibly leaning on Pence behind Trump’s back. If Sundance is right – if Trump WAS under investigation – if Comey WAS lying to him about that – then it is highly likely that the wicked commies in FIB forced Pence to listen to their toxic lying crap, and then FORCED him to keep it secret from POTUS.
It explains everything. Ratface Ryan probably got the same spiel from Cankle-Licker McCabe, got all jonesy for a shot at the White House, and THAT would explain his attitude toward Trump. This same kind of toxic lying bullshit was probably used on KASICH, too.
Doesn’t this explain everything so neatly?
*SPIT*

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It would explain a whole lot.

redlegleader68

When things like this crop up, I always circle back to my Q:
“The people you trust the most…”
In this case: double meaning? Askin’ for a friend … 😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Supersonic BOOM.

NebraskaFilly

Well, the doc is from the Senate website so we know that is accurate, no? So he was definitely “briefed,” right? As DP says below, I have also not been comfortable with Pence.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is part of how they LEVERAGED the status of “under investigation” to SABOTAGE the Trump presidency. CUNNING. They used the LAW to force the HONEST GUY to LIE.
*SPIT*

SingularZoe

Wolfie, can you spell out what you are telling us here? Thanks.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

There are two possibilities. Trump is under investigation. Trump is not under investigation. Comey and others stated publicly, or privately to Trump, that he was NOT under investigation. Trump made sure to make that public. Ask yourself WHY Trump did this. I suggest that it was because Trump KNEW or suspected that this was not true, and used ALINSKY back on the communists – making them LIVE WITH THEIR LIES.
If Trump is under investigation, it gives the FIB the right to bring people into confidence AGAINST TRUMP, about the “MUH RUSSIA” investigation, using what are called National Security Letters – a kind of ad hoc warrant which includes an automatic GAG ORDER. I have reason to believe that these have been used against ME, so I know a little bit about them due to research. There are posts here dealing with NSLs. THIS is the primary post:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2018/12/09/time-for-our-flu-immunization/
NSLs were likely used NOT ONLY to “poison the well” in the White House – they were used to POISON THE WELL of social media. I have also posted about THAT.
https://wolfmoon1776.wordpress.com/2018/01/13/how-hillary-turned-tech-against-trump/
When I wrote this, I did not realize that NSLs were the MECHANISM by which that post on my other blog comes true, but now I can see that this is true. The IC and federal LE *LIED* (or, as they will say, “mistaked*) that TRUMP was “involved” with Russia.
The REALITY is that this is the chain of command of what happened:
PODESTA (HUGE Russia ties, BTW) > HRC (HUGE Russia ties, BTW) > Comey/McCabe/FIB (HUGE Russia ties, BTW)
Podesta’s mailbox, from a “journ=O=list”:
“Best approach is to slaughter Donald for his bromance with Putin, but not go too far betting on Putin re Syria. Brent”
NOW – back to Pence.
Pence made a statement to the press that was used to go after Flynn. The question was VERY legalistic – very STRANGE for the press to ASK such a detailed, legalistic question – and Pence answered it EXACTLY as asked. Pence’s answer was then INTERPRETED BROADLY (in an almost non-legalistic manner) to indicate that Flynn was lying – NOT TRUE. This was a total set-up.
Why does Pence answer the question exactly like he did? Weaponized psychology. Pence is CONTROLLED and is being PLAYED by malevolent player in a malevolent system, who are looking for ANYTHING to “Fuck Flynn and then ….. Trump”.

SingularZoe

I see. Thank you for walking me through it. I do remember when you wrote about the national security letters.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

You’re welcome!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

More in these two tweets pushing out the two links….

rayzorbak

So……. Pence might be another #2 ?

NebraskaFilly

*shrug* IDK but I’ve never trusted him. I have always felt when someone is so publicly pious in his faith, it hints of something hidden. I hope I am WAY off base but…..JMO

rayzorbak

I trust him NOT also….

NebraskaFilly

No doubt my feelings are colored by the hypocrisy I witnessed within my own church and oh-so-Christian family. It’s funny – people denigrate those from the “south side of the tracks,” when all along they are doing the same things – they just hide it better.

rayzorbak

lol….
The difference between a Baptist and a Methodist?
The Methodist will say “Hi” to you in the Liquor store.

NebraskaFilly

ROFL – oh, so true!

Sylvia Avery

If PDJT kicks VP Pence to the curb, I’ll hold his jacket. Until then, as I said, I’ll wait and see.

Sylvia Avery

I heard somewhere today on FOX or FOX Business that Pence was asked about this and he said no one talked to him about it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

NSL. BOOM!!!
They’ve been using gag-order social engineering. It’s ingenious, and it’s EVIL.

michaelh

If an NSL is at play then Pence answered correctly.
Much like how Mr. Clean responded to Jim Jordan’s questions. Jordan asked the right questions and was righteously angry about it. But Whitaker’s hands were tied and he handled the questioned exactly the way I expected him to. The D’s would’ve loved to entrap the AAG right there.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

To quote Silk (of Diamond and Silk fame)…..
“Mmmmmmmmm-hmmmmmmmm…..”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Pence denying is confirmation. We have the text messages. Pence was briefed as confirmed by Page/Strvok.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

One theory I have is that Pence followed the law completely, but UNDERSTOOD and HAD FAITH that Trump would figure everything out.

TheseTruths

I would really like an explanation for all of this. Rule 9 is about what to do if the Republican Party nominee drops out of the race after being nominated at the convention. Were they planning what to do in case Trump dropped out because of that audio tape? Whatever the case, it doesn’t look good for Pence to be communicating behind Trump’s back about contingency plans, and especially regarding Paul Ryan. But we live in bizarro world where it’s hard to know what is real.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The FIB can use an NSL to tie Pence’s hands. If TRUMP is a target, they can FORCE people to either lie to him, not tell him the truth, or HIDE things from him.
Doesn’t that start to make sense now? The WICKED Comey-McCabe FIB was LYING to Trump, just like SD figured out, and they MADE Pence and others LIE to Trump, too.
Trump WAS under investigation, and they LIED to him. AND they made others lie.
*SPIT*

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Burn it to the ground. Give Wray the TORCH and have him BURN IT TO THE GROUND.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If that’s what it is, that Trump really was under investigation, and Comey lied all along, setting up Pence to be silent, then yes.
We have to close the FBI.

michaelh

Just to clarify, do you mean to give Wray a “torch” as in a flaming stick, or the “Storch”?
And also, when you said “Give Wray the TORCH” did you mean to hand it to him so he can yield it, or did you mean to use it to light his tail on fire Judges 15:4 style?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m saving those answers for the GRAND JURY! 😉

bflyjesusgrl

”By the Book”😉

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Double Supersonic BOOM.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Holy $$$$$hit, Wolfie.
Trying to wrap my head around it.
Wait a minute.
Exactly who is allowed to issue a NSL?
“The nondisclosure provision must be authorized by the Director of the FBI, and only after he or she certifies “that otherwise there may result a danger to the national security of the United States; interference with a criminal, counterterrorism, or counterintelligence investigation; interference with diplomatic relations; or danger to the life or physical safety of any person.”[3] Moreover, a recipient of the NSL may still challenge the nondisclosure provision in federal court.[4]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m figuring it was COMEY.

judyw

Thanks!

Aubergine

The name underneath the redaction has to be only three letters. That is a very small area.
“Jim” Baker, Bruce “Ohr,” “Jim” Rybicki, “Jim” Comey.
Who am I missing? I think James Comey is the best bet for the “briefing,” but who knows? “Outbox” is Lisa Page, right? So she would be more likely to be speaking to James Baker.
I did find this, from Feb. 2017:
“Baker tells Politico he has shared his advice on how to get things done in Washington directly with Trump, his new secretary of state (and Baker’s hunting buddy), Rex Tillerson, and Trump’s new chief of staff, Reince Priebus. It’s also likely Baker imparted some words of wisdom to Vice President Mike Pence, who was his seatmate at Sunday night’s Super Bowl in Houston.”
https://people.com/politics/jim-baker-assesses-trump-presidency/
Pence’s wife got an envelope at the Bush funeral. Dr. Dave Janda thinks that Pence was the Bushes insurance policy, and that George W. let his wife and Jeb know that he had flipped to the other team at the funeral. Janda talks about it in this video:
https://people.com/politics/jim-baker-assesses-trump-presidency/
It’s very interesting that the wives got the envelopes. Follow the wives…

rayzorbak

Remember…….
Pence got a “Letter” at GHWB funeral along with others.
Speculation is…….. Subpoenas?
Hmmmmmmm

Pat Frederick

didn’t his wife get an envelope at the funeral like several others?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Remember, Karen Pence got an envelope at GHWB’s funeral.
Never did trust Pence.

singingsoul

Is that why Pence had the Flynn encounter costing Flynn the job?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Pence interaction with Flynn and Trump was CONTROLLED. Pence was effectively ISOLATED from Trump and Flynn by the FBI (remember McCabe: “Fuck Flynn and then we Fuck Trump”). This explains why Pence gave exactly the answer that he did when the MEDIA was sent to Pence to EXTRACT the carefully worded statement that was NEEDED by the people who were controlling him. Pence was HESITANT to go into explanations – the MEDIA working for the FIB was given the careful, almost LEGAL question – Pence then gives the CONTROLLED ANSWER
Oh, these picayune Marxists and their spuds are so predictable.

michaelh

IOW:
Pence was set up.
Flynn was set up.
They set them up so that either Flynn or Pence would take the bullet.
Flynn took the bullet to keep Trump from being set up.
McCabe wanted Trump, but getting Flynn as plan B suited him just fine.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. If Trump tries to defend Flynn (presumption of innocence), they USE IT against Trump politically, where innocent until proven guilty does not apply.
THIS IS HOW THEY GOT NIXON.

SingularZoe

Thank you, Wolfie.

GA/FL

C’mon – no one knows what was in the envelopes.
Pence could not be a better, more effective and loyal VP.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

According to Dave Janda, he is one of the Bush group. At least, I think it was Dave Janda. He has some pretty well placed sources.

GA/FL

I’m as loyal to Pence as to Sessions – and won’t budge until solid evidence is presented. Who’s to say that Pence didn’t bring everything the RINOs tried to do to our POTUS elect??
Trump is far more shrewd, prescient, with more sources than we can ever know.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’ve never liked Pence. There’s something about him that does not sit right. Not sure what, but something is off.

GA/FL

He is very closed, professional in every public word and appearance. Not ever spontaneous. However, that means he doesn’t fall for the tricks of the media. He has a great ability to think on his feet.
I admire the Pences and Sessions greatly – their record is unblemished – despite being staunch conservatives and Christians.
Remember when Pence was to endorse Cruz but ended up endorsing Trump? Pence would never have agreed to be Trump’s VP unless he believed in the MAGA policies and wanted to save the USA from the black hats and the Socialist Islamists!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Let’s put it this way: I’m not going to convince you and you’re not going to convince me. I’ve always been creeped out by Mike Pence. I trust my gut when it comes to that whether people claim Christianity or not. Sessions didn’t set that off. You can put them in the same category, but I am not going to.
Until the anon says otherwise, Karen Pence got an envelope at the funeral. That’s what I know.

GA/FL

My point is – no one knows what the envelope meant. Why trust an Anon?
I trust the Pences and Sessions records in personal and public life more.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Actually, it was Dave Janda that described what was in the envelopes.
In my experience, public records do not always give the full story. I trust my gut.
Like I said, my gut says things about Pence that give me more than a little pause.

GA/FL

What did Dave Janda say was in the envelopes and who is he?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Dr. Dave Janda is an orthopedic surgeon who worked for the Surgeon General for years. He has no use for the swamp. Anyway, he has low friends in high places.
This is the video that opened a lot of eyes.
https://youtu.be/TDXubXJQkgM

GA/FL

Thanks, DP. I don’t have time to listen to a long video right now. Tried to find out what he said about the envelopes – and how he knows – in text – but no luck.

para59r

Good back and forth. Time will tell, but we might not be around for it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I do about the allegations. Not sure what is true and what is not, just that Pence is one of those people who just seems too good to be true on the surface.

SingularZoe

ga/fl, I had wondered the same as you, and something Wolfie said made me stick by Pence, but it’s not looking so good to me now. My comfort has to be that whatever the truth, Trump has it. He knows it all.

GA/FL

Pence and Sessions are men of integrity – and both the Pences are GOD-fearing Christians. They are both intelligent and staunch patriots.
I am not willing for any of them to be smeared by rumors that have no basis in fact.

bflyjesusgrl

“Harumph. I want to see you”. Is Andy preoccupied for his customary 1 hr meeting? Maybe I can sneak over for a quickie? (EWWW!!)
IIRC, that’s the first time they’ve let a “lovebird” theme text slip out, no??

Gail Combs

Here is a copy of the image so you can blow it up and read. It is very damning!
NOTE DATE!! 11/17/2016
To put it within the timeline:
The ELECTION WAS Tuesday, November 8, 2016
“On November 17th, 2016, NSA Director Admiral Mike Rogers travels to see President-Elect Donald Trump in Trump Tower” https://themarketswork.com/2018/01/10/an-american-hero-the-death-of-a-fisa-narrative/
“Nov 19, 2016 – 19, 2016. WASHINGTON — President Obama is considering removing Adm. … President-elect Donald J. Trump is considering Admiral Rogers, who is … met with Admiral Rogers on Thursday at Trump Tower in New York….” — NPRcomment image
So yeah it looks like Pence is a real snake.
From Memory:
I heard he was forced on President Trump. He announced he was the VP pick NOT President Trump.
He sat in the Bush box for sporting events and at the Bush funneral he was chummy with the Bush’s and Hillary yet IIRC President Trump completely ignored him. Also PENCE GOT A NOTE!
He has stepped aside so not dirt tossed at President Trump splatters on him and was caught out of country bad mouthing Trump’s agenda.
Gunny66 says:
“OK….let’s go..
Pence
1. Put in charge of the transition team…almost all he recommended are gone.
2. Put in charge of pushing bills through Congress. How did that work out?
3. Put in charge of eliminating voter fraud. This was during the Georgia special election. How did that work out?
4. Pence was in South America waving happily behind Tom Donahue…Donahue gave a blistering speech against the President. Pence said Nothing.
5. During the taped Bush/pu88y gate tape scandal, Pence said nothing to defend the President .
6. Pence fired Gen Flynn for supposed lying to him. Now the article by Sundance explains this.
7. Now he is in charge of Space Exploration….has he said anything about that?
8. Pence was placed as Vice President by the RNC.. This is a tradition for decades, like the DNC picks the VP. Then Preibus is picked as Chief of Staff. How did that work out?
9. Pence’s personal physician ravaged the Presidents nominee, Jackson, forcing him to drop out. Pence said nothing about it.
10. Pence visited the Border during the Caravan arrival at the border. He spoke to the press saying: “Don’t worry, we will let them all in.”
North Korea hit out at US Vice President Mike Pence calling him “ignorant and stupid” as the reclusive state made a renewed threat to cancel an upcoming summit between the two countries.
Choe Son Hui, vice-minister of Foreign Affairs, released a statement via the state-run KCNA news agency lambasting a recent media interview Pence gave to Fox News.
“I cannot suppress my surprise at such ignorant and stupid remarks gushing out from the mouth of the US vice-president,” she said in the statement.
In his interview with Fox, Mr Pence warned North Korean leader Kim Jong-un that it would be a “great mistake” to try to play Washington ahead of a planned summit with President Donald Trump next month in Singapore.
He also said North Korea could end up like Libya, whose former leader Muammar Gaddafi was killed in an uprising years after giving up atomic weapons, “if Kim Jong-un doesn’t make a deal”.
Pence…I predict he will not be on the ticket with our President if he runs in 2020…
He’ll have Personal reasons…”

More from Gunny66
“…Before being put in charge of transition team,
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/joshua-adam-schulte-charged-unauthorized-disclosure-classified-information-and-other
The keys for the Transition Office went directly from Pence to McDonough not to Chris Christie, who was in actual charge of the transition team.
The “Kremlin Connection” email to Jeff Sessions’ office started the wiretaps on the Trump Campaign for President. The an e-mail was sent from the Transition Office stating the Russians were the connection sources of all of this….
Pences personal physician ravaged the Presidents nominee, Jackson, forcing him to drop out. Pence said nothing about it.
10. Pence visited the Border during the Caravan arrival at the border. He spoke to the press saying: “Don’t worry, we will let them all in.”
North Korea hit out at US Vice President Mike Pence calling him “ignorant and stupid” as the reclusive state made a renewed threat to cancel an upcoming summit between the two countries.
Choe Son Hui, vice-minister of Foreign Affairs, released a statement via the state-run KCNA news agency lambasting a recent media interview Pence gave to Fox News.
“I cannot suppress my surprise at such ignorant and stupid remarks gushing out from the mouth of the US vice-president,” she said in the statement….”

And people wonder why President Trump uses Jared as his envoy instead of Pence…

SingularZoe

All right, Gail, that did it. I was on the fence about Pence, still kind of wanting to defend him, but I’ve come over to your side on this. It’s painful, but thank you. Can’t deny the overwhelming evidence.

rayzorbak
Sylvia Avery

This thing smells to high heaven, doesn’t it?

Sylvia Avery

Shouldn’t there be/isn’t there some kind of crime about faking a hate crime? If not, there sure should be.

amwick

New federal law about lynching…. hmmmmm I wonder if that includes lynching yourself.. 🤔🤔

Sylvia Avery

I just heard that I missed today that PDJT said that Abe nominated him for the Nobel Peace Prize. Heh, heh. It will never happen, and after being defiled by BO it means nothing, but I think it is awesome, anyway. I hope it sticks in BO’s craw, sideways.

Pat Frederick

love when POTUS said, “Peace IS the prize.”

Sylvia Avery

Wheatie, I love that pic of PDJT punching. Gosh, he was kinda cute.

Sylvia Avery