Dear KMAG: 20190831 Open Topic

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This Stormwatch Saturday Open Thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA-KMAG-KAG world.

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Our greatest gift to President Trump is FIVE WORDS:

WE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU.

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Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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For your listening enjoyment, I offer this composition from James Paget, titled ‘Rubicon’:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scL3KqBR3Bo&w=640&h=360]

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Visual descriptions for our dear Zoe, and for anyone else who may find them helpful:
Header Image: Is an arched doorway in the base of a large Tree, with stone steps leading up to it. There are lush green ferns growing around the entrance and thick moss covers the trunk, as well as the surrounding trees. A light is shining through the door from within the Tree.
Second Image: Is a cozy interior view of a stairway against the wall leading down into large area with overstuffed chairs and soft lighting. There is a bannister made of winding tree branches. Throw pillows and throw rugs add to the comfy atmosphere.
Third Image: Is President Trump in a windbreaker jacket, with a furrowed brow and a sympathetic smile on his face, as he visits storm victims.

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Hurricanes are nothing to fool around with…if the wind doesn’t get you, the flooding will. So please stay safe and evacuate if it’s headed your way.

 

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MA_kswiss

Wow I’ve never been around to see the new day’s post go up! Hello all! Hope you’re well!!

MA_kswiss

Hi- i’m actually in the USA for a month- providing some homecare for my parents, and workin with siblings to help them plan for the ‘next phase’….whether with family, assisted living or in home nursing. It’s been a challenge and a blessing- nice to spend time, but man do they give me a run for my money with temperaments 🙂

bakocarl

Shhhhh. Nobody’s awake. Be vewy, vewy quiet.

nikkichico7

…. 😮 …. 🤭 ….. 🤫 ….. 🥰🤗

MA_kswiss

lol— I was so quiet that I fell back to sleep! tee hee….

phoenixrising37

Hello MA_kswiss ! and all……………………

gil00

I think with summer winding down we shall see more friends round the tree again. Happy to have our European friends anytime!

MA_kswiss

yes completely agreed! Good point- glad to see you gil00! 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

Not to take away from the people in the path of the hurricane, but we’re in storm hangover mode here. Big thunderstorms that put one municipality underwater last night when the stormwater run off system was overwhelmed.
Hope everybody else is doing well.

nikkichico7

Oh that’s not good, please stay safe DP ….. hope you stay high and dry
God bless you … 🙂❤️

MA_kswiss

I agree with you Deplorable Patriot…hope everyone is hanging in there!

phoenixrising37

‘Fraid we’re all awake… storm watching….
Praying Dorian goes out to sea ………….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I want to see that movie!
“Right turn, Dorian! Right turn!” 😀

nikkichico7

…. snicker …. 😝🤭 …

phoenixrising37

Wheatie, I think we all need the sanctuary of one of your comfy treehouses……………..
this one is outstanding as always…………….
not sure about the photos of the wind and water 😉

phoenixrising37

Oh no… not too much. I was trying to convey I can’t “like”

nikkichico7

Yeah Phoenix … the one clip with the guy in the rushing water 💦 was just nuts. I don’t see the point in putting yourself at risk like that ….

Rodney Short

I miss living on my sailboat during storm season, best sleeping I ever had.

phoenixrising37

ever been in a hurricane ? or even a tropical storm…
you’re talking about a rainy afternoon, right ?
Late husband and I sailed … I never liked the bad weather though.

cthulhu

The Fiancee and I used to dive Monterey regularly — where the water is regularly in the 40s. This means that you wear 7 mil wetsuits…..which you put on at water’s edge before moving in. This was extremely unpleasant when it was 80 degrees on the beach.
So any weekend the forecast was cool and rainy, we’d make a special point of going. We’d haul our stuff to the insertion point, suit up in relative comfort — wouldn’t sweat a quart before we got in the water — then go in amongst the kelp watching the pattern of raindrops on the surface. Magical times.

phoenixrising37

Sounds heavenly !

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Humans! With their FAKE BLUBBER, moving in and LOWERING PROPERTY VALUES! 😉

nikkichico7

…. LOL …. 😛👍❤️

Rodney Short

I lived thru many hurricanes,6 years living on board my boat it was rather fascinating to say the least.You only live once ya know or in my case 7 times.
Faith in God and the power of prayer,it works.

rayzorbak

“Faith in God and the power of prayer,it works.”
As Long as you understand……..
GOD…. has PLANNED EVERYTHING.
(He is NOT sitting in Heaven WAITING on “us” to do anything!)
HE…. gives us our “Faith”
HE…. gives us Salvation (BEFORE the earth was even made)
“Our” prayers” Help “us”….. (Do NOT change God’s plans)
“IF”… God changed his PLANS because of “our” “Prayers”…..
He would be at OUR mercy….. Poppycock!
Please don’t take this personally…..
I am just posting what the LORD…
Jesus… (The CHRIST)
leads me to post. 🙂

cthulhu

In the 3rd photograph, VSGPOTUSDJT looks fifteen years younger than the day he came down the escalator.

Gail Combs

President Trump for all these decades has been watching the country he loves being soldout to the highest bidder — AND FRETTING a bit. He had to wait until OH!Bummer showed Americans just what America’s Ruling Class had planned for them BEFORE he could run for president.
Now President Trump is FINALLY in a position where he can DO SOMETHING! That relieves all the stress built up over the decades.

rayzorbak

^^^^ This! ^^^^^

phoenixrising37

I posted a tweet by this fella yesterday. Check his profile. He is really backing President Trump ! Here he is with another today, directly to POTUS !

nikkichico7

I like this guy … 🤨👍‼️

phoenixrising37
cthulhu

Words you never hear from government: “under time and under budget”.

Deplorable Patriot

You can say that again.

daughnworks247

MOAR Border Wall!!!!!!!!!!!!

nikkichico7

More, more, more …. 🤨👍❤️🇺🇸❤️‼️
https://youtu.be/RlJGrIyt-X8
retro right down to the hot pants … bwahahahahahah … 😃👍‼️

nikkichico7

…. ya know …. she’s probably a grandma now ….. 😉🤚❤️

rayzorbak

In light of recent exposures……
It is a catchy tune……
but WHO was she singing to?
Some “Producer” that would make her RICH?
What is she asking? (How do you like your love?)
What did she HAVE to DO to become “Famous”?
HollyWeird and the “Music” industry is now under the microscope.

nikkichico7

This is true … I don’t remember much about the tune other than it was catchy … and music videos were popular then …
I only like the “more, more, more” part anyways … 😝🤚

GA/FL

Heeeeee- Heeee!!!! YOU GO, Mr. President!!!
PDJT is the master of trolling and steam-rolling over the nasty leftists and pretend conservatives!!!!

phoenixrising37
cthulhu

…..and, then, there’s Iger videos from Epstein’s safe, that the IC is burying…..

daughnworks247

???? No kidding?

cthulhu

Speculating according to “best guess”.

nikkichico7

DH and I took our kids to Wally World …. one year we took a picture of younger kid (2y/o) older kid was 5y/o) with Tigger holding him …… 😐 … the only thing I can say is one false move and the tig would have been seriously messed up …
We kept a close eye on our kids didn’t let them wander and were firm about them staying close … it was work but you love the little buggers …

thetinfoilhatsociety

In the metro Phoenix area in the past week there have been three attempted kidnappings: one of a toddler right from the cart at a grocery store, and two of women walking down the street in broad daylight.
They must be getting desperate.

cthulhu

Apropos of nothing, I tripped over this article at ZeroHedge — https://www.zerohedge.com/political/think-trump-hitler-go-dachau
I’ve been to Dachau, when I was 15 — so, 40+ years ago. It is an uncanny place, and this author captures a bit of its strangeness in his description. While our group was getting off our tour bus and organizing to be processed, a man lurched out of the initial orientation building, ran a couple of steps, and vomited next to a building. It was a shocking introduction — but in context, it later seemed understandable.
Dachau was one of the few camps that was on German soil (Bavaria) — Auschwitz, Treblinka, and Sobibor were in occupied Poland. As such, it is particularly damning for Germans. One might say, “well, far away in Treblinka, they shipped in 40 rail cars of people and 2000 meals last month, and nobody noticed.” At Dachau, people had to know……no matter how much they denied it or hid it from themselves. The guards were locals, it’s a small town, everyone knew someone who worked there…..
Two big takeaways from the place were: (1) the sun doesn’t seem to shine right there — it’s like it’s through a polarizing filter. Everything seems more grey, and dim, and monochromatic. (2) there is an odd sort of screaming silence. Mostly what you hear with your ears is a quiet “crunch, crunch” as you walk over the gravel — but you feel startled as if an air-raid siren had gone off next to you. And you’re tempted to hold your hands over your ears and flinch away……but when you stop walking, the “crunch, crunch” stops.

Deplorable Patriot

The thing about Dachau, though, was, according to the spiel there, the crematorium was built, but never used. There is nothing that looks like a gas chamber, either, IIRC. I was there 20 years ago. It was almost like it was a holding center more than anything else. And, I don’t believe those coming in from Russia were sent there. They went to Auchwitz, and according to more than one survivor, the reason they were shaved bald and their clothes burned was due to lice and other bugs.
What the real truth about it all is/was may come out some day. There’s anecdotal evidence that the history we know may have some artistic license added.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The fictionalization (once taboo) and subtle politicization of the Holocaust which began in the 1970’s really screwed things up, for those of us who defend the complex realities, IMO. These things broke up and ruined the prior, very fact-based consensus on both the reality and proper scale of what happened. The truth didn’t find itself trying to have a conversation in the midst of lies and name-calling.
Holocaust deniers were rare as hen’s teeth because there was nothing to be gained or lost by departing from the facts. The same type of people who now argue that “it was all a hoax” instead took positions like “yes, but” and “what about”, which were valid perspectives one could discuss rationally.
A college math buddy’s dad survived Dachau, and refused to have the tattoo removed.
My advice for people who want to “get back to the reality” is the following documentary series, which is excellent and absolutely free of spin.

Deplorable Patriot

I would never say the Holocaust was a hoax, BUT some legitimate, IMO, questions have come up, namely why was the “gas chamber” at Auchwitz not sealed with a 40′ high chimney? Missouri’s gas chamber was sealed and the exhaust chimney was that high to keep from killing people outside it. And it has been mentioned that for 14 million people to die, supposedly the actual number when gypsies, political dissidents, and other undesireables were factored in, they would have had to kill 10,000 people a day.
I have no doubt millions died, and that cruel human experimentation took place, but some of the claims are a little mind blowing when you separate out the emotion involved and think about it.

kea

You know Katie Hopkins brings up a very good point.
https://twitter.com/KTHopkins/status/1167168325769736192

kea

FYI her father is an actor/writer and her mother was a singer who was talked out of singing aka could not sing any more.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I believe this is a beautiful example of colliding programs. She is involuntarily trying to smile at a deep level, but at a more conscious, conditioned, reward-programmed level, she needs to force “serious Greta”. What you are seeing is colliding micro-expressions.
I.e., the serious, frowning (and yes, autistic) CHILD ACTOR is having trouble suppressing a smile.

kea

I love how everyone just kind of watches and does nothing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34ivbZIZ9R8

cthulhu

Try http://www.ktvu.com/news/ktvu-local-news/san-francisco-truffle-shop-owner-attacked-teen-son-comes-to-his-rescue
A homeless vagrant starts choking-out a shopkeeper in the street and stops after his son comes out of the store with a baseball bat. Onlookers recommend the kid do nothing if the vagrant merely renders the shopkeeper unconscious.
Robert A. Heinlein (PBUH) had a different view in “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”, if the establishment has a kitchen.

Gail Combs

LOVE Heinlein. I have all his books sitting on a book shelf behind me.

cthulhu

If I might gripe a bit at both Q and 8chan.
Really?!?!?!? Silent for a month?!?!?!?

ForGodandCountry

You have more than you know.
Q

cthulhu

I have MUCH LESS than I want.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I now have more than I knew, and possibly even more than I want or need. 😉comment image

Eilert

Here is the latest from 8Chan Twitter (23 August)

You must be patient till at least 5 Sept 2019.

cthulhu

TY. I’ll exercise calm until then.

Deplorable Patriot

There was a tweet from the owner explaining that they were rebuilding with a lot of strength.
As for Q, I get the idea that some of the twitter accounts that go on and on in threads, like BurnedSpy, are really helper accounts. They may have been talking to us and we just don’t know it.

phoenixrising37

Ohh, I definitely believe that Dep Pat !
Lots of “cheerleaders” online………. Beer at the Parade is another.

Gail Combs

If I might gripe a bit at both Q and 8chan.
Really?!?!?!? Silent for a month?!?!?!?

CodeMonkey the Board Owner’s son explained a while ago that 8chan would be off line until the Board Owner had TESTIFIED BEFORE THE DEMON-RAT CONGRESS. In the meantime CodeMonkey would be beefing up the code and such.
The Board Owner does not want to take the change of allowing bad actors to set him up while he is waiting to testify. That is my take-away.
I also think the DEMON-RATS will DEMAND the Board Owner tell them EXACTLY WHO Q ANON and other prominent Anons are and if he does not he will be held in Contempt of Court. (I hope he has Sidney as his lawyer!)

duchess01

Better than Sidney – he has God and His Angels protecting him from the demons – Prayer Warriors are on it – in the name of Jesus – we pray – Amen

ladypenquin

Okay, Wheatie has given us the perfect Tree to sit and get cozy. Get your beverage and a blankie, and read this:
Attorney Sidney Powell’s masterful brief (on behalf of General Flynn) filed with Judge Sullivan yesterday.
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.109.0.pdf
When referencing anything to do with ex-Special Counsel Mueller, ie. his thuggish team, be sure to use this new hashtag: #MalevolentMisconduct
Heck, I’m going to use it whenever something comes up about the Cabal – they did engage in malevolent misconduct.

ForGodandCountry

You’re talking about Andrew Weismann, among others, and Sydney Powell intends to hang his balls from her rearview mirror in her car.
And she’s gonna get ‘em, too.

daughnworks247

I love that woman.
I want to be that woman!

ladypenquin

Daughn, you’re certainly the Q-Treepers’ version of Sidney Powell. We’re fortunate. 😍

rayzorbak

NO!…. “We” like you (Daughn) …
Just as you are!

Deplorable Patriot

It’s a little early in the morning for that visual.

Gail Combs

It is NEVER to early for that visual!
With a little imagination…comment image
Only I hope she has a WHOLE box of them to hand out.
Mueller’s go to General Flynn….

Aubergine

Believe it or not, I have seen these on a truck driving around in Montana!comment image

Gail Combs

There is a few of those running around NC too.
Mabe we should buy some and ship them to Sidney and General Flynn after all this is done. (With appropriate names attached of course.)
…..
I did warn you guys I am a vindictive bitioch with a warped sense of humor…

ladypenquin

Yes! Obviously holding these lawyers for the government in contempt is totally unsatisfactory – and produces no deterrence for future #MalevolentConduct.
I believe Weismann should have gone to prison for what he’s been doing for years. Powell makes the point that the prosecutors are so drunk with power (my words) that it’s about a win vs justice or seeking the truth.
III. “The Government’s Disregard for Its Brady Obligations Is Longstanding. The government has long demonstrated a strong predisposition to view essentially
everything as “inculpatory.” If something appears on its face to be favorable to the defense, such as Senator Ted Stevens’s note that he wanted to pay his bill to his contractor, the government will claim it was said “with a wink and a nod,” and therefore it showed the defendant’s guilt after all. This “heads we win, tails we win” perspective infected and corrupted the prosecution of
United States Senator Ted Stevens, four Merrill Lynch executives, and untold others across the country. “

thetinfoilhatsociety

Yes. This began, or at least I became aware of it, in the 90’s. Government agencies, including fire departments, began to charge for services that were formerly supposed to be covered by tax dollars. Building permits began to be for smaller and smaller projects, and cost more and more. Fees for non compliance with regulations that no one even knew about or were ever even put up for public comment began to cost more. Fees for paperwork that used to be free.
I’ve talked with a few lawyers around here and they have spoken (off the record of course) about the malevolence of the prosecutors and revenue generating mindset with fines and charging for incarceration and for all kinds of other things (for instance, if you are in jail and you need an antibiotic you are charged for the doctor visit, and the medication, even though it’s the law that you have access to those things).
Our government at all levels is completely out of control and no longer represents the interests of the people. It is simply a giant revenue generation machine at all levels.

rayzorbak

So TRUE!
Why have “Seatbelt” laws for those in cars and trucks when…..
Motorcycles don’t have to have them….
Or even to wear a Helmet?
Just ANOTHER TAX!
“Laws” need to serve a purpose OTHER than just COSTING us moar!
Damn! I hate “Do-gooder” laws!

duchess01

Hahahahaha!!!

Tonawanda

I respect and understand the high opinion people have of Powell and this motion. I am NOT attacking any person for having those opinions. I also understand the justified high level of respect and support people have for General Flynn, a true hero who was coerced (IMO) into pleading guilty.
I hesitated about posting my personal opinion, wondering if it did more harm than good (as if my opinion amounts to a hill of beans anyway). But here are my opinions:
1) The motion is mostly a political document, not an actual legal argument. A lot of it is boilerplate. The references to Ted Stevens are dubious and in a sense highlight the lack of legal analysis. Stevens was convicted after trial. Flynn pleaded guilty. Yet there is no analysis beyond the boilerplate about the meaning of Brady in those two very different legal contexts. (Irrelevant but related note: Powell wrote a book about Stevens. Her relentless salesmanship of her book OT turned me off. How much of this motion was her book?)
2) With total respect for Ristvan, the footnotes and the other citations do not distinguish this motion as something special. They are, in effect, assertions of legal truisms or facts well known to the judge, and in a sense are rhetorical grandstanding. What the motion lacks is a compelling legal argument which distinguishes Flynn’s case from all others.
3) When Powell asserts that only a defense attorney can truly appreciate the exculpatory nature of evidence, she is implicitly admitting that she has no specific or particular argument with respect to Brady as applied to THIS case. And more generally, it is simply not the law it seems that there is some absolute right to have a defense attorney make the determination. For instance, I believe judges can make the decision without consulting attorneys.
4) It would seem that reality has to play a part. General Flynn pleaded guilty. He swore under oath to the truth of a fact. And he subsequently reiterated his sworn statement. If Flynn was coerced (as I believe he was) that fact was known to him and his lawyers when he pleaded guilty. That is reality. To the extent coercion is available to the government, it is a reality all across America and in many cases big and small. But that is a political question, one which is made very difficult to address because Americans love to cheer for their own destruction by routinely cheering the government getting bad guys by whatever means, with whatever laws available whether they make sense. IOW, getting the media approved “bad guy” is paramount.
5) Powell fails entirely to address what possible effect Brady material could have in the context of a guilty plea. And significantly, she said on TV she has no intention of seeking to withdraw the plea, which at least is a recognition of reality. She said she hopes the judge finds the entire prosecution was so corrupt that he dismisses the indictment without addressing the sworn plea. Things like selective prosecution sound great, and maybe that is a winner, but it seems an attorney has to weigh the possibilities of success, and it would be interesting to find out how often selective prosecution is a winner. Also, the subjective belief of FBI agents is legally irrelevant in any context (other than selective prosecution, maybe) and certainly irrelevant in the context of a sworn statement of guilt by the accused.
6) But here is my basic concern with Powell: whether she has the best interests of Flynn in mind. I do not know Sullivan well enough to say, but he would be one almost unique judge if his eventual sentence is NOT affected by all the extra work he needs to do, especially if he sees it as grandstanding and a waste of time.
7) And getting back to the coercive aspect of the plea: if the indictment IS dismissed, what sort of nasty things can and will happen which did not happen BECAUSE of the plea? You know, the nasty things which evaporated with the plea? That is an issue which every defense attorney must consider even in a case swimming with injustice, unfairness, political motivation and corruption.

Aubergine

Tonawanda, I hesitate to agree with you for the same reasons you hesitated to post, but I do agree. I read Powell’s brief, and it seemed more like an opinion piece written for a news magazine than a legal brief. Although I have to admit, I am not a lawyer, nor have I ever played one on TV.
I like Sidney, and I think she is on our side, but I am not sure of what she is really going for here.

Tonawanda

Nobody, not even highly experienced lawyers I believe, know exactly what is going on, and any opinions (even from lawyers) is whistling in the dark to some extent.
I have my guesses about Powell, but they are just guesses.
Flynn is a highly intelligent man. He knows the score. Whatever his original lawyers told him, as repugnant as it may have been, persuaded him to swear under oath.
I am guessing that there is nothing – – zero – – that Powell is now raising which his original lawyers did not consider and assess.
And there is A Fortiori’s opinion that this is all an elaborate operation, something which may very well to be true but, again, impossible for us to know.

phoenixrising37

I’m with you……………
Powell is an Appeals atty also, isn’t she ? A little out of her ballpark here as defense for Flynn? There’s also the matter of the 5 page “Joint Agreement” signed by her and gov’t attys on 30th which pretty much indicates to me that a date for sentencing will come in October………….

Tonawanda

Powell IS an appellate attorney, which is what makes her lack of legal argument so telling. It would seem throwing out boilerplate and making provocative assertions is not a legal argument for a specific client.

ladypenquin

Important to remember that Powell herself makes note of the information that cannot be in the Brief, because it’s under Seal by the Court. Judge Sullivan therefore knows, and has that information. We do not. I don’t see anything in this “opinion” – that negates the points she made. The footnotes and case law she referenced back up all her points.
The government seeking a win rather than Justice – yes, for every Nifong who got disbarred and sent to jail, there are hundreds if not thousands of cases where prosecutors want to close a case rather than seek the truth. While almost all of us here are lay persons, of course, recognizing the lawyers among us, as an intelligent, educated lay person – I’d be hardpressed to disbelieve that there wasn’t substantial substance in what Powell has set before Judge Sullivan.
Everything she wrote, whether in her book or not, was the same argument – and proven true – by the malfeasance and misconduct noted in the Stevens case.
The taint and stench of Mueller, Weisman, et al will live long after us – including on POTUS is this isn’t dealt with.
BTW, they apparently had Flynn under surveillance for several years – but didn’t tell President-elect POTUS that the guy he was tapping for his NSA adviser was being monitored for being a spy and traitor? I
Oh, and that under duress plea? It’s real. I bet that contractor in Alaska was taken into the FBI’s office and told his books would be gone over with a fine toothcomb if he didn’t testify the way the FBI wanted him to.
We’ll see what happens, but there are plenty of lawyers, including Greg Jarrett last night on Dobbs who appeared to agree with the premises Powell set forth.
She waited until Comey’s IG Report came out – noting all the connections Comey, Strozac, et al have to her client. So now we have a corrupt FBI Director, and former employees – fired for corruption – fruit of the poisonous tree.

rayzorbak

“there are hundreds if not thousands of cases where prosecutors want to close a case rather than seek the truth.”…….. TRUTH!
Herein lis the ROOT of our problems with “Our” …
“JUST US” System.
TRUTH …. should be OUR OBJECTIVE in ALL things!

ladypenquin

I acknowledge your input, but as I’m not a lawyer can’t address the legalese about your arguments.
OTOH, having read her brief, and knowing the Stevens’ case – political or not, Powell does connect the relevancy of the Stevenscase : chronic, malevolent midsconduct on the part of government prosecutors – not only prosecutors as we’ve seen, but members of the highest levels of law enforcement.
The Comey IG Report now supports a number of points she made, which is likely why she released her brief after the IG Report. The treads all cross with her client’s case. No one can it be severed.
I wrote a longer reply to Aubergine below, as I had started responding to you, and then saw hers. Anyway – I suspect there will be plenty of opinions on both sides.
Nothing Powell says is different than what we know, including Mueller’s Report where Flynn didn’t go along with Mueller and lie about some guy’s foreign business work. Powell is simply asking for the information so she can defend her client effectively.
Flynn has the right to withdraw a guilty plea. Coercion is an ugly thing – but the government is very good at. In fact, Coercion by the government is how they make their living and stay in business. Just ask the people who have fallen foul of the IRS.

Gail Combs

REMEMBER,
Much of this is for SHOW to the Fence Sitters.
I think Sidney is adding another stanza to the ‘OH!Bummer Government was corrupt’ song and dance with this document. It is rather short (less than 10 pages single spaced) and shows the little guy was ABUSED by the BIG BAD DEMON-RAT GOVERNMENT LAWYERS.
I think that is why Stevens was hauled into the ‘show’ He was targeted BECAUSE getting rid of him meant we got the much hated Obamacare.

ladypenquin

Obamacare should have been thrown out – considering they stole a Senate seat to get it passed. It was more than “show” – I bet there’s correspondence and communications which would reveal the conspiracy to do what they did.
I’m still waiting to find out what they had on Justice Roberts – he made up law to keep the ACA.

thetinfoilhatsociety

Wasn’t he on the Epstein flight logs at least once? And I’ve heard several times his children’s adoptions were not conducted legally.

ladypenquin

I’ve heard about his children’s adoptions, but any facts related to the issue are unknown, at least in the general public. Yes, a “John Roberts” is on Epstein’s flight logs. John Roberts of FOX has publicly stated it wasn’t him. Others have said John Roberts is a common name. The only one I “know”? Justice Roberts.
Anyway, it looks like the way Epstein got his power and lived his wealthy lifestyle was by getting rich and powerful people into compromising situations and then it’s simply a matter of extortion and blackmail.

thetinfoilhatsociety

You are correct, “A” John Roberts on the flight logs. Thank you for making it more clear.

Tonawanda

Sorry for the repetition, but Powell said on TV she does NOT want Flynn to withdraw his plea, nor is her motion a motion to withdraw the plea. Nor is her motion a motion to dismiss based on why it should be dismissed.
Powell, in effect, is saying Flynn IS guilty by virtue of his plea. And given that he swore under oath to his guilt, and the various implications of having sworn under oath FREELY AND VOLUNTARILY according to the plea, Powell is wise not to challenge the guilty plea itself.
What Powell is saying without saying it is: yes, Flynn’s guilty plea is valid, but despite his guilt the indictment should (eventually) be dismissed because Flynn was selectively prosecuted or the government’s prosecution was so corrupt as to be invalid regardless of guilt.
Not all exculpatory evidence has the same degree of significance. The evidence that the traffic signal was green might be exculpatory, but would it possibly/probably have changed the outcome if it had been known? And how do you evaluate that question when someone has already admitted guilt? Powell is silent.
Prosecutors rarely seem to get punished or have their licenses called into question regardless of misconduct, but that is an entirely separate issue (it seems to me) from what happens to a prosecution when there is misconduct. And I am going to guess that in the overwhelming number of cases prosecutions, especially guilty pleas, are ultimately legally unaffected by misconduct in any given case.
I do not know the answer, but I am reluctant to enthusiastically endorse the idea that what Powell is doing is good for her client and her client alone.

ladypenquin

Ok. We’ll see, but I don’t have any confidence in the Justice system. I believe Flynn plead guilty to save them destroying his family. It’s in Judges Sullivan’s hands – Powell wants a dismissal. I think she has grounds to believe Flynn was netted by foul means, and entrapment. I trust Sullivan like I trust Justice Roberts – I don’t. Sullivan calling Flynn a traitor in his Court – poor on his part, to the point where even the prosecution pulled the Judge back from the abyss.
Flynn’s deeds or misdeeds, however they’re defined are being prosecuted because of his connection to Trump – while the filth of our highest levels of law enforcement walk free.
I’m also someone who believes Mueller and his henchmen should be in jail – for interfering in the 2018 election – with their fake Russian investigation.

Tonawanda

That is my whole point – – Flynn pleaded guilty to save them from destroying his family. That is a large part of the coercion and blackmail used against him. How is saving his family affected if the indictment is dismissed? And how is his sentence affected if he fails? I guess we will see.

ladypenquin

Retribution isn’t going to go over well, but I thought I had read something where that was off the table – it might be when Flynn refused to lie regarding the guy the foreign guy – government said Flynn wasn’t cooperating with them anymore. If I find it, will bring it. You say Powell isn’t going for plea withdrawal, right, she’s wants dismissal with prejudice – so that would still leave Flynn’s family open. That’s why I think something resolved about his family. The government suborning perjury isn’t pretty either…
For now, I don’t think Powell can provide adequate defense of General Flynn without the information and documents that were shared among the bad players we already know about, and who were fired or resigned.
It’s all rotten, and Powell is pointing that out.

singingsoul1

Tonawanda I read someplace when Flynn pleaded guilty his son had a 3 month old child at the time.
I can understand Flynn the father and grand father wanting to protect his son and his grandchild.
The dirty government prosecutor managed to get a military hero to plead guilty to a crime he did not commit. Is that justice we in the US should tolerate? Is the Government above the law to use unethical tactics for political purposes on an innocent man?
I repeat myself but this stuff is so familiar to me from the DRR former communist East Germany.
If no one is above a corrupt Government prosecutor than who is? Must we as free people tolerate this ?
In a corrupt Government the innocent get prosecuted and the guilty walk free because they are part of the corruption. I lost trust and faith in the American judicial system the way it is now set up with political compromised unethical people.
Barr to me is on probation and up to now he has not lived up to the white hat guy he was portrait. Maybe I expect to much from people who made they’re living in the DC swamp.

Tonawanda

A commenter OT named LawrencePaul (IIRC) advised me to watch the movie The Lives of Others, about East German totalitarian culture. WOW! What a great movie! It should be required watching for every high school student in America, to see how socialism/communism operates in reality.
The problem with American justice (IMO) is not really the prosecution of the innocent (although there is that). It is 1) the determination to criminalize, and to over-charge; and 2) the gaming of the system so government misconduct is always hidden and excused.
But with what happened under BO, we moved big time into a justice system which DOES prosecute/frame the innocent.

ForGodandCountry

You seem to be forgetting, Tawanda, that Weismann & Co. coerced the guilty plea from Flynn by threatening his son. You also seem to be forgetting that the original Strzok interview with Flynn was, itself, a set up. The canal needed to separate Flynn from POTUS, for a host of reasons. He was entrapped, and then he was coerced. Sundance’s documented proofs of same are crystal clear and irrefutable.

Tonawanda

I agree with you 100%, except for the forgetting part. But those considerations were exactly what Flynn and his lawyers considered when Flynn pleaded guilty. There were reasons why Flynn pleaded guilty, and none of them (I am guessing) have anything to do with not knowing about Brady material. The reasons were entirely practical and inescapable. IOW anybody would have taken the plea, understanding that it was impossible to trade off those considerations in return for exposing and punishing government misconduct.
As Powell herself says very eloquently, the government uses guilty pleas and other tactics precisely to cover up misconduct, but the fact that the government can do that is a political question not a legal question, and a political question that has very little interest except among the guys who are on the receiving end of it, when they realize personally how unfair and unjust the system can be, and also realize that no one else cares.

ForGodandCountry

I disagree.
As Powell also states, the gov’t is altogether ignoring the Brady Order issued by Judge Sullivan, which is entirely a legal….not political…question. Specifically, this is a legal question involving a political matter.

singingsoul1

Flynn was not well served by his first Lawyer team. I wonder who Flynn trusted to suggest to him to go with that law firm. Was not Holder associated with the law firm? The milked Flynn badly to the point of loosing his home and is 5 million in depth.
The government prosecutors in my opinion blackmailed Flynn plead guilty an his lawyer let him down or for anyone fill in the blank..
Powell is trying to not only save Flynn but also to shine light on cur option in the government DOJ.
The power that government prosecutors have should scare anyone.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Deplorable Patriot

Screaming and shouting is his best weapon at this point. Go for it, dude. You’ve got a lot of people behind you.

michaelh

DAMMIT YOU CHICOMS!!!
THIRTY YEARS AGO WHAT DID JAILING STUDENT PROTESTORS GET YOU?!!!
DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN NOTCH A WIN WHEN YOUR ECONOMY IS ON THE ROPES???
REALITY IS A HARD TEACHER – IT WON’T SUFFER YOU FOOLS!!!

singingsoul1

The Chinese are being exposed for who they are. Any western corporation making deals and business with them in essence do business with a Mao communist regime.
Our government if they are blind and do not see that they have been dating with serpents. Do they want their children and grandchildren live under a Mao regime?
Personally I am old and to me it does not matter what happens to me but I care what happens to my children and grandchildren.
I do not understand why only the youth in hong Kong is fighting and not the older generation. They should put themselves between the police and youth to protect the youth. The youth needs to know that the elders are with them and the police needs to know they are fighting their ancestors and parents and grandparents.
God be with all of them in Hong Kong UK let them down when UK gave them back to mainland China without protection. The Chinese fooled the West and the West fell for a bag of silver and goodies.
How many Chinese agents do we have in the US in Universities and corporations? Even Facebook Zuckerberg cannot be trusted.

Deplorable Patriot

She’s being pimped out for this.
In advertising, actors cringe when they are cast in commercials with kids and dogs. Why? Adults disappear.
I had a boss who got royally p!$$ed at the executive from another non-profit over kids being used as props. Two non-profits were awarded vehicles from a manufacturer to use in the execution of their missions. Ours had to do with teaching nutrition classes. The other was to be used to ferry kids to their chemotherapy appointments. Guess whose non-profit got more air time.
I couldn’t tell the executive director of our group that she could have brought some along herself. I couldn’t tell her she was deadly on camera, either.

Aubergine

Yeah, she really bothers me, too.
I am 100% convinced she is mentally handicapped enough that she doesn’t really understand what she’s saying. All of the rhetoric is “programmed” in and she just spouts it out to please her “handlers.” That video we have been commenting about here today tells the story. She wants to smile at the people (to
please” them, like a very young child would), but her handlers have told her she has to be serious, so she is conflicted.
It’s child abuse, handicapped abuse, and just plain wrong. Sickening to me.

duchess01

Emotionally confused, Aubergine – see links posted on Wolf’s post above – explains her conundrum.

duchess01

Child Abuse of the worst kind!!!!

Nor'easter

She’s just “playin’ hard to get”!!!

duchess01

‘Let’s Get it On’! ‘Smooth Operator’ – unfortunately, she doesn’t look impressed – lol

Deplorable Patriot

Spain has forgotten its own history.

Sadie Slays

Many people I know in real life or follow online have complained sometime in the past two weeks about not feeling well. Several are having auto-immune flare ups (including someone in my family). I’m not sure if this is genuine coincidence or if there’s something more to it, but it’s a weird time of year for everyone to be sick.
Just putting this out there in case anyone has noticed something similar.

Deplorable Patriot

A relative had to cancel lunch with my mother for a fever and sore throat.
I’ve been achy, but started some serious stretching, and in the last 12 hours snap, crackle and pop all over. Now if the SI joints would just move…..
it’s that time of year.

Teagan

Me! Went to lunch with a friend on Thursday…that night had 101 degree temperature…just like that. Was thinking of going to a nearby Minute Clinic but the walk-in wait time was 1 1/2 hours so obviously I wasn’t alone in feeling sick. I do have an auto-immune disease. Hmmmm

Sadie Slays

My family member is having the worst auto-immune flare up in a decade. It’s bad. I had assumed it was stress-related until I heard a few others complaining about their own auto-immune issues acting up this same month.

singingsoul1

my son has been sick for two weeks and is now on meds.
My husband and I were overcome the other day with extremes fatigued. My knee has been worse even though it had not bothered me much this summer. My husband thought it was a strange Equinox thing affected us . What happened the other day was unexplainable. Our dogs were the same .
The next day all was normal.

Sadie Slays

I had a similar night earlier in August! I felt absolutely drained, had the worst fever I’ve had in at least a year, and could barely move or read stuff on the computer. It hit fast and seemingly out of nowhere. I went to bed early and felt okay the next day. It was like a weird 12-hour cold.

singingsoul1

Sadie unexplainable is a dood description. . Glad you are ok. Just wonder what is going on?
I think I need to salt my house 🙂

singingsoul1

Coorection : it is supposed to read good description 🙁

michaelh

I posted a couple days ago about having a viral infection with a long tail. Still having a lot of fatigue and having to be very intentional about dealing with it. Still woke up this morning still feeling very tired. My wife had the same virus with chills and a fever. We think Patient Zero was my oldest daughter, and a visit to a popular local museum on the fifth being the likely exposure event.
I saw my allergist yesterday, he thinks it is viral not autoimmune. I have a physical scheduled next week with my pcp.
We’ve had extreme heat in the 100F-105F range for weeks, usual hot august, with pollution in the air. By itself that is going to exhaust anyone. The cool front seems to have broken the heat. Yesterday another strong wave came through and we got bad thunderstorms. I notice when the air pressure swings dramatically b/c it has obvious affects on how I feel.
It seems like two years ago I had a similar viral infection in August that knocked me back for weeks and took a month before I felt back to normal.
Last year in September I also was sick, I thought that was a sinus infection it was in the later half of the month after the allergens pick up. In the past I’ve almost always had a severe sinus infection around Labor Day which allergy treatments seem to have helped with. More than likely last year was viral – I took a lot of OTC meds to deal with it. I felt a LOT better and then that afternoon had an episode where I fainted at work which landed me on the ambulance to the ER. After action, my pcp believed it to be viral and complicated by the OTC meds I was taking, she made recommendations to change what I was taking.
In the last couple years I’ve seen viral infections cause fainting. More to the point, the virus seems to interfere with the heart’s normal function and can trigger palpitations or blood pressure spikes, like sudden drops in blood pressure. I had a couple incidents in mind (scary) but since it’s not my own personal medical history I’m not going to get into it.
Based on my own tracking, this nasty little bug, or a close cousin to it, seems to like popping up in August/September as well as December/January.
One solution I’ve recommended for the blood pressure spikes. The best solution is to make sure you don’t get too far behind on sleep. [Insert stories here.] But it also helps to drink orange juice before bed – which is an easy source of potassium. OJ isn’t as good as bananas for potassium but it is a quick shot that the body can absorb quickly before bed. Also helps for preventing muscle cramps and charlie horse. Another helpful one is magnesium. I use Natural Calm magnesium and try to drink some before bed.

Teagan

Good points…hope you feel better soon…I know how awful it is to walk through mud all day.
One suggestion, be sure to have your thyroid checked (and maybe even more than once). I, too, was prone to passing out especially when overheated.
It can be tricky, and I finally found a specialist… after seeing several doctors over a very long period of time…that has me “balanced” and has made all the difference in the world. I get blood work every 3 months with occasional adjustments in meds. Took 8 ((!) years to finally get to that point, so don’t give up.

michaelh

That’s very good advice. I make sure to have blood work done at least once a year to check for changes.

Teagan

If you can, see an endocrinologist…and if it’s a group practice ask to see a thyroid specialist. Will save you months of time, believe me.

michaelh

Thanks, I’ll talk with my wife about it.

rayzorbak

“I’ll talk with my wife about it.”
WISE Man! 🙂

singingsoul1

My husband is slightly anemic that has been a problem from childhood on. He goes every three moths to and endocrinologist. Nothing has changed but he has diabetic 2 and controls this with diet,
He also had irregular heart beat and found a wonderful doctor at OH State University who did a procedure that stabilized his heart. He is the leading specialist for treading irregular heart problems. The doc is a wonderful person and very kind.

singingsoul1

michaelh so sorry you and your wife have been so sick. Many prayer to you and your family for speedy recovery.
My son still sounds terrible even though he became sick 3 weeks almost 4 weeks ago.
I think he picked it up at Michigan State University and got sick when we vacationed together.
Universities are breeding grounds.

Sadie Slays

I hope you kick that nasty infection soon. Sending positive thoughts your way. Thanks for the report.

ForGodandCountry

Everyone I know is in excellent health, including the older folks.
Since we’re going to toss around terms like “everyone” in a thread like this.

Sadie Slays

Glad to hear your loved ones are doing well.

ForGodandCountry

Thanks, but I didn’t say loved ones. I said everyone I know, since we’re tossing around the term “everyone”, like you did in your conspiracy theory opener.

Sadie Slays

Funny how I’m being accused of “conpiracy theory” when I haven’t put any theories forward. Just wanted to know if anyone else here had similar observations. That’s all.

daughnworks247

Here we go. This is what the left hand is doing while we are trom watching.

realsauce

hmmm…..Pepe

Aubergine

Those people singing our National Anthem made me cry. What can we do for them? Not another war. I hate China.

duchess01

Don’t hate – PRAY – China is caught between a rock and a hard place – if they come down hard on Hong Kong – they will see businesses scurrying to get out of China – more so than they are now –
PT has this – you better believe he is watching – and waiting – just like the rest of us!

ForGodandCountry

“Those people singing our National Anthem made me cry. What can we do for them?”
A: What POTUS is already doing….bring China to it’s economic knees, and in so doing, create the conditions that would cause the people to take their country back from the communists.
The question is: are the Chinese willing to die for their freedom? Because that is what it is going to take.

phoenixrising37

still believe response to protesters would have been swifter and very brutal…………………
but for our VSG POTUS tying in HK to trade negotiations……………. US has stipulated that they must not be treated brutally

GA/FL

Good Morning WQTH Troops and Prayer Warriors!
Update on daughter Sally.
– She was transferred to a critical care, rehab type post-hospital facility yesterday and will stay there until she is able to go home.
– She has had no more heart rhythm atrial fibrillation episodes since transferring from the ICU to the hospital floor and since moving to the new hospital 12 hours ago.
– She still has a long way to go. I just ran out to Walmart at 4 am to get kale, spinach, apple, peaches, pineapple, bananas, etc. to make her a smoothie and try to build her up since she doesn’t have much of an appetite….and they keep on drawing all that blood for tests.
We are so thankful for the resources and all the conscientious caring people who have looked after her.
We are also thankful the storm will pass us by this time, but are hoping for the best for those who are. No doubt, generators, chainsaws, plywood, etc are being purchased in large quantities. The traffic from the east on I-10 was huge and there were long gas lines in Leon County/Tallahassee yesterday.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for your prayers!!!

duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!!!

Ddanna

It sounds like she is on the road to recovery, which is great! Continued prayers for her and you!

Aubergine

Thanks for the update, glad she is getting better.
You might try adding some avocado to the smoothies! You can’t really taste it, but it makes them creamy like a milkshake and the healthy fats are really good for you.

GA/FL

Thanks, Aubergine – will do! She loves avocado!

Aubergine

Do you have a NutriBullet or similar device? It makes the smoothest of smoothies. No lumps, which I hate!

GA/FL

I got a Vitamix last time they had a Mother’s Day special.

Teagan

LOVE our Vitamix….used primarily for veggie smoothies almost daily. Great investment for us.
Highly recommend one for anyone that needs extra nutrition (such as Sally) but has no interest or difficulty in eating.

GA/FL

UPDATE – She drank ALL that huge green smoothie AND ate most of her breakfast (real scrambled egg, real crumbled bacon and real grits)!!! She’s much more alert today. Yesterday she slept most of the day and would not eat anything all day.
Thanks and Praise be to GOD!!!

Gail Combs

GREAT NEWS!!!
A good appetite is always a good sign. You can not get well if you do not provide the body with the building blocks it needs.

LM

Wonderful news!
So thankful to the Good Lord and somhappy for you both.
❤️

phoenixrising37

wonderful news GA/FL ! We will continue to pray for Sally and you and all of your family.
God bless you sweet lady.

singingsoul1

Blessings to you and your daughter for I am happy to hear that your daughter is doing better. Still many prayers for you and your daughter.Thank you for sharing her progress with us.

GA/FL

So grateful for your prayers! It’s been scary.

singingsoul1

I know and understand. Hugs

singingsoul1

Jasmine Leung
@_jasmineleung_
Just interviewed “the oldest” member from the group “Protect the Kids” (守護孩子) for #antiELAB – who calls himself Grandpa Wong. “Our job is to stop the police from beating the protesters. The protesters are HKers. They’re my kids.” #HongKongProtests #守護孩子
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The old guy on the floor in the picture post above is my type of fighter. He helps the younger generation to achieve their dreams and helps protect them.

daughnworks247

Getting ugly in Hong Kong. Where the real problem is.

daughnworks247

Incredible photos and wow, do they have the symbolism down pat.

singingsoul1

The people in Hong Kong have tasted freedom and do not want to be enslaved by mainland China. Would be the same if North Korea takes over South Korea or if East Germany had taken over West Germany.
People are not going to be still and allow freedom to be taken from them.
Just because each are Chinese and share a language or even culture does not mean they are one people. A 100 years of freedom cannot just be taken.
I wish 50% of our people would understand that and not fallow socialism so eagerly.

duchess01

Verse of the Day

“Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.”
Psalms 16:11 (KJV)

duchess01

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duchess01

Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered!

duchess01

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singingsoul1

What a beautiful picture for us to travel today and love the Psalm also.
Thank you for posting.:)

duchess01

Most welcome, singing – God Bless You!!!

duchess01

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Jesus Loves the Little Children…Pray for the Little Children
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Teagan

Okay, truthfully, I think this young man was just engrossed in his device and not trying to look up the skirt. Notice that when the other man stepped in front, he just pulled back and kept on texting or whatever he was doing. There was no guilty reaction at all.
Nevertheless, kudos to the man for being alert and being willing to step in.

Dora

The Wall

Deplorable Patriot

At long last.

Dora

singingsoul1

wheatietoo
Maybe it’s just me…but it seems a little out of place, for Merkel to celebrate the German invasion of Poland…in Poland.
😕😬
Did they invite her?
Or did she invite herself.
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Not many people know that but Merkel’s grandparents immigrated to Germany.
That is why many Germans say “that she is not really German.” Not that I agree with that since she was born in Germany.
She still has relatives in Poland.
Maybe she does not feel that guilt ? She also grew up in East Germany and was involved in Communism structure.

singingsoul1

I forgot to write that her grandparents immigrated from Poland.

Dora
Dora