2021·03·20 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What IS Hopium Anyway?

Based on some of the reactions to my post of two weeks ago, it became apparent that some people misconstrue where I’m coming from.

When I condemn hopium, am I condemning any and all hope? NO. It’s true that hopium is hope, but not all hope is hopium. So when I condemn hopium, I am not condemning hope as such only false and unfounded hope.

In fact, I wasn’t even dumping on all hopium two weeks ago. I was talking specifically of the kind that implies that at some date in the near future, all will suddenly become well, and more specifically, the speculation that names a date. (This is, by the way, something that Q never did, and I am aware of that yet I got criticized on that point as if I were going after Q for naming dates.)

A perfect example, someone posted a thing from John Solomon claiming the long-awaited indictments would be coming out in 4-6 weeks. That means, before the end of April. I have a couple of questions in all earnest to anyone who pays any attention to John Solomon.

  1. How many times has he promised the indictments would be coming in just a few weeks?
  2. How many times has he been right?
  3. Given the answers to 1 and 2, why in blazes is anyone still paying attention to this guy?

Or for that matter to ANY prognostication about a specific date?

I’m thinking we may finally have broken ourselves of that particular habit. Because I don’t see too much of it any more. Good.

And now to clear up a misunderstanding I did my fair share to contribute to.

I had heard others here refer to Marica’s as a place with a lot of hopium, and (my mistake!) I assumed that they meant it included this sort of date-specific stuff. Having misunderstood them, I took them at what I thought was their word. (And I probably shouldn’t have trusted them at all, much less expected them to mean the same thing by hopium as I do.)

So when I said later on that they really needed to get off the hopium, I meant the date specific stuff. And when I went over there later, and picked a random page off that day’s daily…I found no date specific stuff! So I was wrong about that, not that one would necessarily be able to tell, since *I* failed to define my terms. Regardless, it was factually wrong and I apologize.

Not that there isn’t hopium of other types, there, and here.

The emphasis over there is quite a bit different. They’re Deplorable over there, of course, but a lot of the content is about peoples’ personal lives, their other hobbies, their current difficulties, and so on. It may or may not be more your cup of tea than this place (which is 90% politics); if you think you need a change of pace, go have a look-see over there.

OK, one other thing to get out of the way. Someone (either there or here, I do not remember) seemed puzzled that I could say that I believe something is happening, when I clearly don’t believe the “movie set” and “Trump is really in charge” interpretations of today’s events. Am I contradicting myself or backing off from that?

No, because that word something could literally mean a trillion different things, and I don’t believe it means either of the two things I mention above. Trump is doing something, but I doubt it’s a countercoup; more likely he’s doing a bunch of stuff behind the scenes to discredit a lot of bad actors, and trying (quietly) to fix the fraud issues and trying to defeat the worse-than-useless dogpuke RINOs. A lot more mundane than what many are thinking, but it’s all important stuff that has to happen one way or another.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

Last week:

Gold $1728.90
Silver $26.03
Platinum $1207.00
Palladium $2426.00
Rhodium $22,000.00

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $1746.90
Silver $26.33
Platinum $1198.00
Palladium $2688.00
Rhodium $29,000.00

Just when I thought Rhodium might start returning to sane levels…it jumped right back up again. Iridium, too, is going bonkers, in the realm of $5000. It’s a congener of rhodium. (That’s a fancy word meaning “in the same classification group as.” In chemistry, specifically, it means it’s in the same column of the periodic table, which tends to govern chemical properties.)

What’s causing the PGMs other than platinum to go up while platinum is in the dumpster (relatively speaking)? (And the PGMs are: Platinum, palladium, rhodium, iridium, ruthenium and osmium.)

According to one analysis I read, it’s platinum being in the dumpster that is causing all of these problems! (And I can’t verify this, but it makes sense.)

The other PGMs are not mined in their own right; they are quite rare and specifically going after them is uneconomical. Since they do appear with platinum, they are a byproduct of platinum mining. So production of them halts when platinum production halts, and resumes again once someone starts mining platinum.

And platinum was produced a lot back in 2008-2009, to the point where it became a glut on the market. And it is still a glut on the market. Then Covid came along and killed what little platinum production was still going on. The analysts expect this to continue to be a factor until 2024-25.

If they are correct, it’s still a good time to get into PGMs, however, I at least really can’t afford to do so. On the other hand if rhodium, for instance, were to hit $100,000 or more it might just force a restart of platinum mining!

Watch your tailpipes. Your catalytic converter has about $400 in rhodium in it (which as you might imagine, is not much). There is a rash of practitioners of socialist economics thieves sawing off tailpipes on certain model cars now.

Ruthenium

Ruthenium.

We have five precious metals to go, having done silver, rhodium, platinum, and rhenium already.

Rhenium is very difficult to find in bar form, and so is this week’s metal, ruthenium. (Even rhodium is showing iup in bar form at Kitco, PAMP is making bars now.) Ruthenium is one of the “platinum group metals,” that block of six metals tucked in under iron/cobalt/nickel. If you find a nugget of one of these metals, the others will be in that nugget as impurities.

(It’s important not to confuse the two names even though they’re very similar. Rhenium and ruthenium are different things, even if the only difference in spelling is the “ut.” It’s of the “ut”most importance not to let this confuse you.)

Ruthenium’s density is 12.45, which makes it a bit heavier than lead. But do not use it for bullets; the bad guys are barely worth the regular cost of ammo. And it would probably wreck your rifling, being a lot harder than lead (even jacketed lead). Besides, you’re going to have a very difficult time casting it! It melts at 4,233 F (2607K, 2334 C), which is pretty darned hot–about like the filament in an incandescent bulb (2400K), but other precious metals would shrug even that amount of heat off (e.g, rhenium, which melts at 5767F or 3459K). To give you another notion as to how hot this is, iron melts at 2800 F, 1811K.

Ruthenium was, in fact, the last of the PGMs to be discovered, in 1844, by Karl Ernst Klaus. Don’t let that name fool you. He had German/Baltic ancestry, but he was born in the Russian Empire (and indeed, many Russian scientists had very Germanic names, at the time). He named the element ruthenium, after Ruthenia, the Latin term for Russia.

It appears that Klaus discovered ruthenium while going through the residue left over when refining raw platinum for the Russian platinum ruble coinage that I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. And indeed the timing is right, the series was produced between 1828-1845.

Ruthenium has some catalytic uses (like rhodium, platinum, palladium and iridium), but not to as great an extent, so its spot price seems to be roughly $385-400 depending on exactly where you look. It seems to be slowly climbing. But even so, it’s by far the cheapest of the PGMs…if you can find it in bar form. It usually trades as “sponge” which is to say loose powder.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

Whoever ends up in the cell next to his, tell him I said “Hi.”

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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Dora

Deplorable Patriot

[snorting]

Dora

YIKES!
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Deplorable Patriot

The Couch Commando thinks they all look guilty.

Gudthots

Funny, my mind quickly went to the TLAs.

gil00

They look like they were put there.

Sadie Slays

WOW, I’m sharing this because something similar happened to a relative of mine.
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A week or two after getting his second Moderna shot, this relative suddenly lost vision in one eye. He immediately went to an eye doctor. Eye doctor claims that his retina is detaching, and he needs emergency surgery right away to prevent going blind permanently. During surgery, they discover it was happening to the other eye, too. I’m under the impression that the surgery was successful, although I haven’t heard any updates in awhile.

At first, I was hesitant to connect it to the vaccine. But then Wolfmoon mentioned that there are documented cases of COVID causing eye problems, and now this viral tweet is going around. To me, this seems like it’s more than a simple coincidence.

BTW, his wife developed a 106 degree fever on the same day she got her second shot. I don’t know which brand she got, but she was part of the same vaccination program has her husband, so I’m assuming it was Moderna. 

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holly

20 days after my elderly mother’s second Moderna jab she had a visual event that lasted 1/2 hour. Everything she looked at moved. Couldn’t read because the words moved up and down.

It wasn’t Nystagmus because her eyes weren’t moving. She had a very thorough eye exam that day which revealed nothing. Retinas fine. This happened 3 days ago and so far she hasn’t had more symptoms.

Sadie Slays

I probably don’t need to say it, but please encourage her to go to the doctor ASAP if she has anymore vision problems.

Wolf Moon

Amen!!!

holly

The day of the event she saw her primary dr. and an ophthalmologist. Everything checked out. I have told her if she has another event she will be going to the emergency room.

kalbokalbs

Wonder if this stuff is documented in VAERS.

Sadie Slays

I’m going to encourage my relatives to report it to VAERS next time I’m in contact with them. They’ll probably just scoff at me, though.

holly

Here’s the VAERS Table of Reportable Events. Nothing about the Covid vaccine, of course. smiley posted a good link about the vaccine and health problems a while ago. Next time I see her I’ll ask about it.

https://vaers.hhs.gov/docs/VAERS_Table_of_Reportable_Events_Following_Vaccination.pdf

cthulhu

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For DP:
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Deplorable Patriot

My dad would finish the whiskey for me.

gil00

I heart the cat! Pepe le pew…lol

MAGA Mom

Reorg for Fulton County GA COP began today )process) to election county GOP officers
https://www.fultongop.org/
And MAGA attendees making a difference and holding RINO accountable
Courtesy election normal and expected
turning him down?! Awesome!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/epic-fulton-county-republicans-deny-anti-trumper-secretary-state-brad-raffensperger-delegate-countys-convention/

Involvement, membership and attendance matter as we see in the above

many TN county GOP’s have voted to not censure blackburn and hagerty. 1-2 votes on the exec committees make a difference. If others would step up, be involved and be willing to volunteer to leadership positions we would have more counties passing censure on their 1/6 betrayal/about face. In our county, 2 MAGA volunteers who were to be officers walked away after 1/6. And censure failed. 🙁 Some MAGA leadership but not enough. Would have probably passed otherwise. We get the GOP we are willing to work, vote and volunteer for

(Re: $ for local memberships … IDK other states but in TN $0 of the county GOP membership fee goes to RNC or state GOP unless a donation is specifically voted for from the county GOP funds. Stays in county unless the members choose to make a specific donation. Learn about your own county GOp in your own states but that is how it works in TN)

LOVE that fulton county ga gop members/volunteers are making a difference

Wolf Moon

This shows that GA Asian Americans know the score!

Sources said there was record attendance from Asian Americans who were the most vocal against Raffensperger.

These Asian Americans were no doubt in favor of TRUMP, and realize that Georgia corruptos led by Raffenstreason and Abrams selling out Trump are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for DEMOCRAT CHAOS and NEW POVERTY for blacks and working class whites, which will translate into CRIME AGAINST ASIANS.

CCP corruption of American politicians hurts Asians in America.

Wolf Moon

Yeah, Noem needs to push back and say that there is a huge difference between accepting trans people in corporate secular culture where it makes no difference, and in either religious institutions like churches or GENDER-DEPENDENT institutions like sports, where the CHOICE of trans life contradicts freedoms of religion and basic assembly by BIOLOGICAL gender.

duchess01

Seems to me corporate leverage is still employing its heavy hand to control events – Noem needs to resist this ‘slight of hand’.

gil00

Just drove past my local uhaul. Literally only 6 or 7 trucks left.
People cant flee fast enough.

kalbokalbs

Closer to the first of the month, rents due, betcha operable trucks are not available.

gil00

Ah thats possible. No extensions anymore. Gas is high and even fast food prices are up. I checked apt rent for a newish place near me and a 1 bedroom was around $1600. When a small burger combo cost $8.50, sum ting wong!

duchess01

These people are not only sick; they are filled with hatred – sorry for MSM reference

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/texas-museum-removes-trump-statue-after-visitors-kept-attacking-it-n1261546

duchess01

Texas Mayor Sounds Alarm on Border Crisis: Illegals Are Robbing Houses, Getting Into Car Chases Every Day
By Samantha Chang 
Published March 18, 2021 at 7:52am

https://www.westernjournal.com/texas-mayor-sounds-alarm-border-crisis-illegals-robbing-houses-getting-car-chases-every-day/

duchess01
duchess01

Massive Iceland Volcano Erupts…
Posted by Kane on March 20, 2021 1:34 pm

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/iceland-volcano-erupts-in-beauty/

duchess01
duchess01

Wolf Moon

Love it!

My wife just saw the Biden stairs video today for the first time. She had neither seen it previously, nor even heard about it. She busted out laughing and immediately commented about how WEAK it made America look.

Trump walking that slick, wet ramp in fancy shoes, VERY carefully, was the same kind of concern for America as when he GENTLY hugs the American flag. He knows that his job of representing how America looks is important. And it makes sense, because his wife Melania is a professional model – a class of people who get paid very well to “care about looks” above and beyond most of us.

Wolf Moon

Does REALPOTUS look healthier? I think he looks GREAT.

duchess01

I think so, yes – the ‘rest’ has certainly helped him rejuvenate – and I imagine Melania had something to do with that, too – Be Best, Boss!!!

Wolf Moon

REALFLOTUS looks great, too!

duchess01

Yes, she does – the only time I saw a ‘frantic face’ was when she was standing near him as he gave his ‘Farewell Speech’ – she looked nervous – anxious to get out of DC – and then – she comes down the stairs of the plane in her ‘orange and purple’ dress smiling!!!

All of this drama has to have taken its toll on the entire family – only one out there shouting is Don, Jr. – I wonder if that was planned – or – if it is his way of keeping the communication going in his father’s absence.

God has certainly blessed the Trumps – and continues to protect them – what they have been through should not happen to any family – let alone the Trumps who have given their all for God and Country!

duchess01

She is definitely great support for him in moe ways than one – Yes!!!

Gudthots

From the replies…
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duchess01

Oooooo – Nice, T3!!! Thanks!!!

America’s Hero!!!

duchess01

Outer fence surrounding Capitol complex to be removed this weekendInner layer of security fencing around Capitol Square area will remain for time being
By Chris Marquette
Posted March 19, 2021 at 7:27pm

https://rollcall.com/2021/03/19/outer-fence-surrounding-capitol-complex-to-be-removed-this-weekend/

duchess01

Making Americans Your Enemies
Kyle Shideler – 03/19/2021

https://americanmind.org/salvo/making-americans-your-enemies/

How the government shifted its “Counter-Extremism” strategy to target the mainstream.
The narrative is here, and it doesn’t like you very much.

In recent remarks before members of the U.S. House Homeland Security Committee, the chief of the D.C. Homeland Security and Emergency Management Agency claimed that domestic extremism has become “part of the cultural mainstream.”

Former DHS official and USA Today contributor Elizabeth Neumann agrees: “Far-Right Extremists went mainstream under Trump.”

[Excerpt] Read more at the link above…

Wolf Moon

Bullshit! Far LEFT extremism went mainstream under GLOBAMA.

duchess01

Former DHS official and USA Today contributor Elizabeth Neumann agrees: “Far-Right Extremists went mainstream under Trump.”

Wolf Moon

Yup. She’s a P.O.S. The LEFT demonized “normie resurgence” under Trump as “extreme”. She’s can ROT IN ALINSKY HELL. Another Obama BULLSHIT ARTIST.

duchess01

We appear to be surrounded by these people of lesser character – maybe, God is gathering them all in one place – for a BIG TAKEDOWN!!!

Wolf Moon

Or vice versa, if we are not careful and smart.

I was there, at the attempted take-down of Trump’s movement at the Capitol. I saw what they tried to do to us.

duchess01

Oh, I understand what you are saying now – Thanks!!!

Pray for those who are unlawfully imprisoned – that the Angels will come to free them – in the precious and holy name of Jesus – Amen

Wolf Moon

Yes! There are many good people who are being imprisoned and intimidated. They need prayers!!!

duchess01

Amen goes right there, Wolf!!!

duchess01

In Oregon, Democrats seek to end GOP boycotts of Legislature
By ANDREW SELSKY
yesterday

https://apnews.com/article/legislature-boycotts-legislation-oregon-5f0ba9b096b3d793553e62c79e5d5054

SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Walkouts by Republicans in Oregon’s Legislature have become so frequent, with GOP lawmakers torpedoing progressive legislation, that Democrats want to sanction boycotters with $500 daily fines and even disqualify them from holding office.

The issue has become acrimonious, with Democrats saying the boycotts harm the democratic functioning of the state. Oregon is particularly vulnerable to boycotts because, while 46 of the other statehouses in America require only a simple majority for a quorum, the northwestern state requires two-thirds of lawmakers to be present. 

[Excerpt] Read more at the link above…

Linda

It’s the only way to stop the craziness.

duchess01

Amen goes right there, Linda!!!

duchess01

Here we go again – Baltimore

Subpoenas Target Baltimore’s Top Prosecutor, City Councilman
Federal prosecutors have launched a criminal investigation into the finances of Baltimore’s top prosecutor and her husband, who is city council president.
By Associated Press, Wire Service ContentMarch 19, 2021

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-03-19/subpoenas-target-baltimores-top-prosecutor-city-councilman

duchess01

The City of Brotherly Love makes Haiti looks like paradise…
Posted by Kane on March 19, 2021 5:22 pm

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/the-city-of-brotherly-love-makes-haiti-looks-like-paradise/

duchess01

I MISS HIM
How One Man Awoke the Soul of the Nation … and the World

Linda

Wow. Great video!

duchess01

Hopeful and Uplifting for sure, Linda!!!

GA/FL

Thanks Duchess – Awesome uplifting video – I really needed that.

duchess01

I think we all needed an uplifting, Georgia!!!

duchess01

MELISSA RED PILL THE WORLD – A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE

RICHARD GRENELL POTUS OF MILITARY OCCUPATION 11.11 ARRESTS-DC WALL COMING DOWN! HAPPY SPRING 3-20-21
RedpillTheWorld Published  March 20, 2021

https://rumble.com/veurdn-richard-grenell-potus-of-military-occupation-11.11-arrests-dc-wall-coming-d.html

Concerned Virginian

https://iotwreport.com/plain-jane-is-in-heaven/
(borrowed from Marica’s blog)

Plain Jane, who would come to the Q Tree and comment when she could, is now with the Great Physician. She fought cancer with unbelievable courage and didn’t flinch at trying different therapies.
RIP.

duchess01

Amen goes right there, CV!!!

She fought the good fight and can now Rest in Peace!!!

gil00

Very sad. Another loss but now she is where it was time to be. I hope she is with loved ones.

Sadie Slays

Thank you for sharing. She will be missed.

Grandmaintexas

😪 God give her eternal rest and refreshment.

churchmouse

Thank you, Concerned Virginian, for sharing that news, sad though it is.

Eternal rest grant unto your servant Jane, Lord, and may her soul rest in peace through the mercy of God and Christ our Saviour. Amen.

Jane is now with the angels and her beloved Lord and God of all.

My prayers go with her family and friends, including all of us, at this difficult time.

Gudthots

IMPORTANT.
Grenell on interview with Beck tells us WHERE TO LOOK.

Beck pointed out the actions of former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who altered an e-mail to say the opposite of what it initially said. After using the document to get a FISA warrant, Clinesmith received a slap on the wrist.

Beck asked why no one has been held accountable in a significant way. He said he does not believe this was series of mistakes. Instead, Beck sees it as an intentional takedown of the president. Grenell responded:

There’s no question it was. There’s just no question. And this was developed with participation from some at the state department. Remember this whole dossier, London embassy. I’m going to try not to get in trouble here….You can look at the timeline and look and see who was in charge and you can look and see what their jobs were later, and you can put all this together.

Grenell agreed that he had concerns that some of the players involved in the Russian collusion hoax are now back in the Biden administration. 

Gudthots
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duchess01

GOD IS UNVEILING ALL THINGS…
march 20, 2021 the marshall report

https://themarshallreport.wordpress.com/2021/03/20/god-is-unveiling-all-things/

Be patient, for many in the Cabal are yet to unravel in order to get all of them involved in the wicked plans to rule the world. When God says enough is enough and it is time to end the evil…he means ALL THE EVIL. 

God and God only has the power to shake the heavens and bring all the evil ones down to hell where they belong. So pray for faith, direction and wisdom.
Meanwhile, Juan O Savin has some insights he has not shared before.

[Excerpt] Read more at the link above…

duchess01

DP, there is a Juan O Savin video in the above post – I think it is an older interview – however – there are new insights in this video – he has not covered previously.

Am interested in your thoughts – if you have time to listen – Thanks!!!

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll have to get to this later. Busy morning here.

duchess01

NP, DP – Just wondered what you thought – busy time for all of us – Thanks!!!

Harry Lime

From the OP:

“I am not condemning hope as such only false and unfounded hope.”

So…uh…I was just wondering…who here gets to decide or define what is hope and what is false and unfounded hope?

That’s one slippery slope.

JasonD

I believe Steve clearly addressed the difference between hope and hopium.

Track record of the hopium purveyors being front and center ….

Harry Lime

So, Steve gets to define the difference…ok, got it. Nice of you to join him on that slippery slope.

JasonD

Free speech, expressing his opinion, yada, yada

Note, he is not deploying a ban hammer against Hopium, but cautioning people to learn through experience

Harry Lime

“Free speech, expressing his opinion, yada, yada”

Which is exactly what other people are doing here.

Cautioning people? Is he now my middle school principle? Yea…I didn’t listen to him either.

pgroup2

Well then Harry, you get to relive your childhood rebellious nature. [smile]

Harry Lime

Ha…I try to everyday. I threw spitballs at my sister during dinner last night…and then I called her doodyhead…

Harry Lime

Pretty much everyone here was a hope purveyor at one time or another. So, once you decide YOU are no longer a hope purveyor…than no one else should be one either from this exact point in time either? ridiculous.

JasonD

He is making an argument that people should learn through experience, nothing more. Failed predictions should indicate something, no?

You can take that on board, or not. It may not be a free world, but Wolf’s site is just about as good as it gets with regard to the “free speech thing”. You just freely expressed your opinion, counter to Steve. Kudos! This is your right.

You are free to consume as much of John Solomon’s (et al) predictions as you wish. Maybe he/they will eventually get one right.

Harry Lime

You’re reducing this down to Solomon. That’s not what has been going on until just recently. But whatever.

JasonD

I said “et al”. Did not want to list them all …..

Solomon was actually one of the more reasonable ones. The “We have it all, they will be afraid to walk the streets” types I just scroll past.

Any entity that tells me that the enemy is stupid is working FOR the enemy

Harry Lime

You just freely expressed your opinion. Kudos!

Wolf Moon

Nobody gets to decide!

This can’t be a free speech site, if I tell people not to bring highly discredited hopium here – but I’m also allowing people to “debunk at will”.

I AM, however, telling people to keep off-topic posting on the open thread. That will keep a great deal of the potentially arguable material away from any posts that want to deal with “reality”.

I agree – slippery slope. I pursue what a lot of people consider “conspiracy theories”. I want nothing inhibiting those topics. However, I know those subjects require massive critique. So the only way is to allow both the topics and criticism thereof!

Harry Lime

Debunking at will is one thing and totally appropriate. That is not what I’ve been seeing. I’m seeing blanket statements even in the statements claiming not to be blanket statements. Now you have a website where people are hesitant to post anything hopeful at all. Nice. I’ve all but lost my sense of humor here.

Wolf Moon

I cannot change the people who went to Washington, or those who almost went. All of us were changed irrevocably by what happened. We – our little group of time travelers – are all in the Soviet Union now. There is remarkably little humor here in Soviet America, pursued by the KGB-FBI, and it’s all quite dour. I find myself, ironically, much like the Soviet defectors and emigres who I met and always thought were humorless damaged goods.

However, I think I have a possible solution for those who need a more hopeful and humorous venue, that will keep us Eeyores in a different part of the farm.

pgroup2

In the mushroom cellar? [giggle]

Wolf Moon

DAAAHHRK EES GUUUD, KHOMHRHADE!

pgroup2

Along with the cow flop?

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Harry Lime

All hail the new Sundance. Just like you always wanted. Over and out.

And just to be clear…what you say about free speech now is NOT what you said a few months ago…also defending your precious SD…the internet keeps these things…

pgroup2

You should not read others’ minds, to discern what they might or might not be hesitant about. I have seen maybe two commenters who are ‘hesitant’ about what they post. And they are both still here, despite that.

Wolf Moon

I’m certainly one of them!  😅 

Harry Lime

No, the hesitant ones have all left already.

pgroup2

IMO, it’s better that way.

Harry Lime

Congrats…pretty soon this blog will be 3 guys talking about precious metals…

Harry Lime

GA/FL does it right. She sees something she doesn’t like…and she points it out and provides evidence to the contrary…and then there is agreement or debate. What she doesn’t do is tell people how to think. Never tell people how to think…

churchmouse

Please use ‘hopanyl’ more often, Wolf. You coined it. It’s great. It might make the distinction between semi-hope (hopium) and fake hope (hopanyl). 🙂

Wolf Moon

Yes – that’s a good idea. HOPANYL KILLS.

Wolf Moon

One way of looking at a lot of the hopium is either that it might be true, or that it’s perspective. So it IS a hopeful way of looking at unfortunate reality.

For instance, the idea that “we have to show people the truth” – well – actually – that is true. One perspective (mine) is that it’s pretty much all you can do when you’re out of power, but it is one of the best things you CAN do when you’re out of power. Make lemonade out of bruised lemons.

The hopium idea is that we “planned” to do this, without looking at the bad side that we were forced into that “plan”. The realium version is YEAH, THAT WAS PLAN B, and part of “losing power gracefully”.

The hopanyl idea is that “we planned to lose the White House to set Biden up as a false front to show people how bad Democrats are”. THAT is hopanyl, straight out of China.

churchmouse

Please use ‘HOPANYL KILLS’ — often! 🙂 Thanks in advance.

churchmouse

Although we’ve been using ‘hopium’ here, it seems as if Wolf’s ‘hopanyl’, coined here a few weeks ago, might be a better word to use.

‘Hopanyl’, as I understand it, is truly false hope.

‘Hopium’ might contain some real hope but not 100% true hope?

Dunno.

Wolf Moon

Perhaps this scale…..

Believing against…..

Legitimate uncertainty – HOPE.
Repeated demonstrable unlikeliness – HOPIUM.
Demonstrable falsehood – HOPANYL.

I get Steve’s point about a binary (real hope vs. false hope), but like so much else, uncertainty and continua tend to make scales useful.

Whatever. I like to use my own neologisms and let them compete in the evolution of language, like everything else! And THAT is hopium, based on the extremely few times I’ve gotten memes that SEEMED (but often were not, and possibly never) original to take.

churchmouse

Okay, your call. I have been putting Steve’s commentary to one side in this discussion.

‘Demonstrable falsehood – HOPANYL’ will have its place with fake (lefty) media designed to deceive Trump supporters.

JasonD

So, how goes the DC CHAZ?

Since Biden can no longer seem to enter into his own plane in a presidential manner, perhaps the time has come for a more appropriate Air Force One, more in keeping with his presidency.

Something like this, perhaps?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKqFnMp7UAXqpmmGVOp-Bihk5Uem4ibEUEcrduTNfUjmLDZQqOMKJeVEr1XFGv0bWjz3w&usqp=CAU

If pic does not display, it is a RC “Air Force One”

Gingersmom2009

No AF1 yet, Harris on AF2, Joe’s plane called N/A – on every flight. Certainly odd, with no explanation. If just a gag, it’s stale already.

MAGA Mom

Gingersmom2009

https://gab.com/SouthernGirlSC/posts/105923798145995099

This is the link for the shortish (40 min. or so) documentary that’s been all over gab today. Trump admin. from the beginning – with the meaning/purpose of all his trips and meetings. All tied to child trafficking/pedophilia and the money.

Is worth the look.

Gudthots

Suicide as an explanation of an unexpected death is ALWAYS suspicious. The witch’s monkeys can do the deed and then the witch’s spokespeople can distort reality to say it was the bioweapon that did it to him. They all LIE.

Gudthots

We will not agree with the lies.
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Harry Lime

Wow, did this place shit the bed.

Gudthots

Andy, is that you?

Harry Lime

Hiya!

Gudthots

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kalbokalbs

Could be. Andy had slipped my mind. (Thankfully)

Was actually thinking another more recent fellow.

kalbokalbs

^^^ Dunno about that. ^^^

Hmmm, guessing here.

  • Your drivel tonight reflects you may have shit the bed.
  • Another person with an alcohol induced tantrum of sorts.

Best I can tell, folks post as they wish. Folks stay or move on as they wish. These ARE difficult times, IMO.

Seems as though only one person is bitching and moaning. Got a mirror?

By the way. Bless your heart. G’nite.

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Harry Lime

Ha ha…enjoy the emptiness.

Harry Lime

enjoy the empty blog with your empty thoughts…

para59r

This looks like fun. Show down on the border. Please do rush in there before the Bidenese even knows what hit them. Then report promptly to the people.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/03/texas-governor-orders-investigation-joe-bidens-filthy-unsanitary-holding-camp-migrant-minors-massive-covid-outbreak/

kalbokalbs

Abbott needs to name locations, run it live on media.

DON’T allow Beijing Biden’s handlers to dodge their PURPOSELY INDUCED BORDER CRISIS.

Wolf Moon

Good thinking – get the documentation out there!

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churchmouse

Another excellent post, SteveInCO.

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