DEAR MAGA: TGIF Open Thread 20220930

Since posting a Hurricane for a cocktail would be in poor taste this week, we’ll go with a tried and true cure for what ails you:

Hot Whiskey

Spike lemon slices with whole cloves. Put in Irish whiskey glass or hot whiskey glass.

Pour in one shot Irish whiskey of choice (other than Powers). Fill the glass the rest of the way with hot water.

So simple, even I can do it.

Okay, here we go:

Sundance didn’t even post anything other than dailies and updates on Thursday. Florida got slammed pretty hard. My own family are all physically safe, but one cousin sustained pretty heavy damage. Please, keep that whole state in prayers.

With that in mind, and that the DePat house had major plumbing work done on Thursday, here we go:

DeSantis: MAGA Understudy or Saboteur?

Having come up through the ranks of the Ron Paul Revolution, I was keenly aware of a system whose entire existence is to perpetuate itself.  Politics has been referred to as theater, and I would consider that an accurate description.  As in theater, politics employs playwrights, directors, actors, stage managers, set designers, etc. We call them by different names, campaign managers, consultants, pollsters, activists, and politicians themselves. The goal of telling a story and arriving at a predetermined resolution aligns.  Nothing is happenstance.

In 2012, Mitt Romney was a made man.  Before he ever declared his candidacy, he was crowned the frontrunner by a captured press. They sold the public on the foregone conclusion that an LDS candidate from deep blue Massachusetts was the most electable candidate in the deep red Bible belt.  Having squeaked Romney through the 2012 primaries, the party went out of their way to deny the insurgent Ron Paul a speaking opportunity at the Tampa convention that he had earned utilizing a legitimate delegate acquisition strategy. Then they went out of their way to ensure that it never happens again by changing the game’s rules.  It’s not all that different from what both parties are doing now by trying to change Electoral Act loopholes that Mike Pence claimed didn’t exist in January 2021. 

Similarly, Hillary Clinton was a made woman in 2016.  It wasn’t until the contents of her leaked emails and in former DNC chairwoman Donna Brazile’s book, Hacks, that we were made aware of an arrangement to trade the party’s presidential nomination for paying off the DNC’s debts. Favorability extended beyond press coverage and went as far as burying Bernie Sanders’ insurgent campaign. They also notoriously preloaded the Clinton campaign with debate content.

It’s difficult to wrap one’s mind around what happened in 2020, but the post-mortem all but gives up the jig.

The Pandemic was a Grand Rehearsal for the Great Reset

In his new book The Great Reset: Global Elites and the Permanent Lockdown, Marc Morano lays bare how “15 days to slow the spread” was actually “15 days to begin your conditioning to accept a new level of tyranny.”  He shows how the agenda was set decades before the pandemic and was given momentum during the post-9/11 War on Terror.  The signs of long preparation for the Great Reset are now quite evident.  Morano lists them, connecting the dots.

The goal was global governance, carbon taxes, the empowerment of unelected bureaucrats, and the stringent regulation of all human endeavors.  The gospel according to the WEF promises people that “you will own nothing, and you will be happy.”  In Schwab’s characterization of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, our physical, digital, and biological identities will fuse into one.  And in the interest of equity and inclusivity, we will sacrifice property, privacy, and liberty, remaining dependent on and therefore under the control of governments.  Meanwhile, the global elite will wrest ownership of, and power over, everything.  Hundreds of billionaire businessmen, influential financiers, and world leaders are on board with this project.

Morano believes that post-9/11, with the expansion of government powers through the PATRIOT Act, the so-called Global War on Terror (GWOT) evolved into a war against the populations of Western democracies.  Ironically, this war on Islamists produced authoritarian police states that curtailed any criticism of jihadist aspects of Islam, prohibited training of agents on Islamic doctrine, welcomed Muslim Brotherhood operatives into government, and insisted that “Islam is a religion of peace.”

All part and parcel of the same whole, IMO.

Gun Rights Make for Good Manners and Safe Nations

“Woke” culture, such as it is, may be the most parasitic, selfish, and unimpressive shared creed to clog so many human minds.  It offers nothing original or enlightening, artistic or inspiring, but rather picks at the ordinary sores of Western civilization’s profound accomplishments, preaching grievance and spreading acrimony, tunneling through society’s rot much the same way dung beetles feed and breed in chambers of filth.  Since morals, customs, and proper etiquette have been jettisoned so that “woke” scolds may scream and bellyache to the world, these mental gnats believe that “good manners” are archaic social chains from another era, or worse, proof that a racist, patriarchal system of behaviors exists to keep women and minorities under perpetual control.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.

Is there a reason we don’t learn how to shoot right next to learning to swim and drive?

How about some real history for a change?

Funny what you find out when reading empirical accounts of history rather than the popular narrative.

Christian votes must line up with Christian voices

BREAKING: Fauci’s Net Worth Soared To $12.6+ Million During Pandemic – Up $5 Million (2019-2021)

Always follow the money.

Pro-abortion activists harass religious sisters and pro-lifers at St. Patrick’s Cathedral

Not even at an abortuary, but at a Cathedral. We’re used to this, but still….

Regime Media Don’t Want You To Hear About The FBI Raid On A Pro-Life Father

Aconcerned wife’s report of dozens of armed FBI agents descending on her Pennsylvania home Friday to drag her husband, a pro-life Catholic speaker, away in handcuffs in front of their weeping children should have been a sensational national story. But it’s been four days now, and not a single one of the big corporate media outlets has deigned to mention the FBI’s raid on the home of Mark Houck and his family. That’s not a coincidence.

“They had big, huge rifles pointed at Mark and pointed at me and kind of pointed throughout the house,” Mark’s wife, Ryan-Marie Houck, alleged in an interview with LifeSiteNews. What dangerous behavior made Mark a target of such a forceful FBI raid? He is accused of violating the FACE Act (a federal law used to limit the acceptable actions of pro-lifers in front of abortion facilities) because he pushed away a pro-abortion man who was repeatedly harassing Houck’s 12-year-old son, his wife said. A district court threw out the case against him earlier this year, but the FBI picked it up as Attorney General Merrick Garland continues his war on political opponents of the Biden administration’s agenda. Houck could face up to 11 years in prison if convicted.

Absolutely outrageous.

Are They Planning on ‘Vaccinating’ the Masses Against Our Will? Why Did The NIH Use a Box Of Genetically Modified Mosquitoes to Vaccinate Study Patients?

Mosquitoes can easily replace traditional injections, contends Dr. Sean Murphy, a researcher who conducted the study.

“We use the mosquitoes like they’re 1,000 small flying syringes,” Murphy told NPR.

The mosquitoes transmitted live malaria-inducing Plasmodium parasites to the twenty-six participants of the study, who each received $4.100 to undergo the experiment.

https://youtu.be/0eu7pVZRYNU

30 ex-FBI agents stand up to support whistleblower who exposed agency’s political bias

It’s been going on for decades.

Rove expecting smaller midterm swing to GOP than House average

Sit down and shut up, Karl. When was the last time you were right?

GOP Senators Baffled By Mitt Romney’s Ploy To Oust Mike Lee — And Maybe Thwart A Majority

Republican senators are growing concerned by colleague Mitt Romney’s refusal to help fellow Utah Republican Mike Lee decisively win his re-election campaign — a posture that could potentially keep their party from gaining a majority in the November elections. Unlike every other Republican senator, the 2012 failed Republican presidential candidate is declining to express a preference in Republican Lee’s re-election effort against Democrat-endorsed Evan McMullin.

“I respect [Romney], and I understand that each state has its own dynamics, but I do not understand why he is remaining neutral,” said one Republican senator who asked not to be identified. “Whatever our differences, we all try to support each other around election time.”

Both moderate and conservative senators confirmed the grumbling in the conference. “We should not have to be worried about Utah in any way. I don’t know what he thinks he’s doing, but it’s not going over well, particularly with the [senators] who are up for chairmanships,” said another Republican senator. Neither Lee nor Romney responded to inquiries by press time.

Hmm…..

Army’s first trans officer and her Johns Hopkins doctor wife are indicted on SPY charges: Tried to pass medical records to Russians of senior officers at Fort Bragg – the home of Delta Force and special operations

No kidding. Here’s another take:

First Openly Trans US Army Officer and Wife Arrested in Plot to Give Medical Records to Russia

Neocon Nikki Haley’s Nonprofit Gets Massive Contributions From Democrat Donors, RINO Elites, Globalist Establishment

This is my shocked face:

Court orders production of Seth Rich laptop

And the headline of the day:

Electric Vehicles Are the Veggie Burger of Cars

Author note: if you see something about fire ants this week, ignore it. I couldn’t find the block to delete it. I think it’s gone now, though.

Tweety Tweets:

This really is infuriating. That painting is not the only one of St. Agatha, and most of them portray her carrying her breasts on a plate or platter as the legend of her life claims happened. This is recorded history. She was in no way transgender. She was a Christian and tortured for her love of Christ.

https://twitter.com/WhiteRabbitNew2/status/1575681875577696257

MEME STASH:

https://youtu.be/s38ignmTqFQ

And now for the business portion of the post borrowed from Tuesday:

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Fellow tree dweller the late Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

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PSALMS 119:9-14

9How can a young man keep his way pure? By guarding it according to thy word. 10With my whole heart I seek thee; let me not wander from thy commandments! 11I have laid up thy word in my heart, that I might not sin against thee. 12Blessed be thou, O LORD; teach me thy statutes! 13With my lips I declare all the ordinances of thy mouth. 14In the way of thy testimonies I delight as much as in all riches.

MATTHEW 13:47-52

47“Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net which was thrown into the sea and gathered fish of every kind; 48when it was full, men drew it ashore and sat down and sorted the good into vessels but threw away the bad. 49So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous, 50and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth. 51“Have you understood all this?” They said to him, “Yes.” 52And he said to them, “Therefore every scribe who has been trained for the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure what is new and what is old.”

SATIRE!

https://youtu.be/XnnbkxzYoUo

Not To Be Outdone By Lizzo, Beyoncé Performs Concert Wearing George Washington’s Teeth

I don’t even want to go there.

Not really satire, but….

https://youtu.be/cn7gOJ9TOu4

Have a great weekend.

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cthulhu

It’s good to hear that the DePat family is accounted for.

It’d be great to hear a peep from Gail.

Elize

The site shows her as online. We’ve been so busy with fall prep and family medical situations that I’ve fallen behind…iows falling asleep too early and not keeping up with site reading as much as I usually do.

Elize

Isn’t Gail in NC?

cthulhu

She’s a smidge away from the Triangle (Raleigh, Durham, Cary). But if there’s flash flooding in Winston-Salem, it’s all going through those at lower elevation.

Elize

I thought she was east of us. Her area is supposed to get up to 35 mph winds. Ours are estimated at 19mph atm but yes, the rain is going to be a mess.

It hasn’t been overly wet, but that will lead to flash flooding coming out of the mountains.

Praying Gods protection over all affected and those in the path.

The 2020 TS did a lot of damage here.

 👃  👃 

cthulhu

She does events in the Raleigh area, but I have a vague impression that she’s near Sanford, or along US64 east of Asheboro — because I did a bunch of tooling around that area and thought it was pretty and could support a nice bunch of goats and ponies.

Which is quite unscientific. I could easily be off by 200 miles.

Elize

You still considering heading this way?

cthulhu

Yup. Looking to live near Winston-Salem but not in it. A couple of acres. There was a discussion about a heritage apple collector in Cummings over at Sylvia’s and I was “I know where that is.”

Elize

Ty Jesus! We’re about an hour west of WS. Can’t wait til you get here!

cthulhu

On the interstate (Hickory?) or on the side roads (Boone?).

NC is such a blessed state, with so much natural beauty and historical resources. It just seems like someone could do anything there……

As opposed to fighting the NIMBYs and the scolds and the mentally deranged in California.

Elize

Wilkes Co., NC

And yes, my husband lived in CA and after we lost everything during hurricane Rita we stayed near his family in CA while we got re-established. I didn’t last long, and we haven’t looked back since leaving CA. Ty, Jesus!

cthulhu

You could have just said “Boone-ish”.

Such beautiful country up that way — a little more remote and a smidge chillier than I’m seeking — but that’s the wonder of the state….there’s different places for different people.

I don’t know what day you left after Rita (’05), but I can well understand that you’ve had no regrets.

Elize

The mountains are breath-taking for me. We drove today to look at nearly 20 acres. We want some target practice land.

Valerie Curren

Love it!!! 💖

cthulhu

Mind you, I also know where Kernersville, Lewisville, Walkertown, Rural Hall, and Bethania are. I just don’t know which ones might be right for me. If you’re just looking at an LA-area map in the 1960’s, you can’t tell whether you want to settle into Santa Monica, Inglewood, or Watts.

OTOH, places like Gastonia and Thomasville scream to me of opportunity. Gastonia used to make socks for everywhere in the US (which, of course, is done in China today). There are rail heads and truck docks and suppliers all around, all shafted by NAFTA and letting China in the WTO. What can you do with this, when things are just laying there?

Similarly, Thomasville used to make furniture that was world-renowned. Now it’s all particle-board crap made in China and sold by IKEA. But IKEA doesn’t have the hardwood forests that surround Thomasville. The railheads and loading docks and power lines still run to the wreck of the Thomasville plant in the center of town. Something is going to relight the fire, and it will be glorious.

Elize

I’ve been on the border or lived in NC off and on since the early 90’s. NC and DC politicians definitely screwed the state. AND we’re NOT a purple state that’s for sure.

But yes, the Lord led us to our piece of heaven on earth that we live on now and I’ll be here til death or rapture!

Elize

I would imagine a lot of it has to do with your personal situation. Work or retired. How much land you want. Suburbs of a major city or small town. Beach, flatlands or mountains.

We did years of research and visiting places before leaving eastern NC for western NC. If you have any questions just hollow at me on Gab.

cthulhu

I’m pretty confident in the outlines of my current plan. If (God Forbid) the Charlotte, Asheville, and Triangle idiots manage to cheat the state blue, I’ll probably have to back over the mountains into Tennessee. Otherwise, I can just settle in and build things.

Elize

Lol one of the things I did was look up the county voting history and picked the reddest counties. Then we dwindled it down from there.

Elize

I have a feeling that NC is tired of the cheating, and I expect Robinson to run for governor.

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Gingersmom2009

That guy is VP material. 👍🏻

Valerie Curren

& I thought Trump & abundant, cheap domestic energy would bring back muscle cars! 😀

TradeBait2

Yep – wifey and I bought our pecan Thomasville dining room furniture direct from their outlet near Hickory back in the mid-80s. We game it to our daughter and SIL to continue the tradition with their family. Still holding up very well.

Bought most of our furniture there after we married and had it shipped back to east TN.

Gail Combs

Winston-Salem is a very nice area. We do gigs there quite often.

Gail Combs

It is fall and I am prepping my pastures for the winter (Planting Abuzzi Rye if we ever get the darn tractor fixed!)

I also got nailed in the eye by a goat horn. Luckily my glasses made it slide off so I got the tip just above my tear duct and NOT directly into the eye. As I said earlier I wear glasses to protect my eyes!

And yeah I have a black eye.  🙄  but I consider myself very lucky.

cthulhu

If you lived here, everyone would just assume it was domestic violence. Wouldn’t make it better if you said “the old goat did it.”

Alison

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/09/29/hurricane-ian-recovery-update/

Most recent update from Sundance. I find his hurricane writings some of his most engaging – humble, grateful, uplifting, and eventual doses of humor and pathos as the human efforts to recover begin.

Prayers up to all in the aftermath or facing the oncoming storm further north of Florida. 🙏

cthulhu

Hear, hear!!!

We may only have a fuzzy idea of where everyone is (and this is by design), but when things get ugly….

From this day to the ending of the world,

But we in it shall be rememberèd—

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;

For he to-day that sheds his blood with me

Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,

This day shall gentle his condition;

And gentlemen in England now a-bed

Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,

And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks

That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.

When Nature gives us such a storm, we are all on one side — to bear the blow and repair the aftermath, with good will towards all and malice toward none.

TheseTruths

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I hadn’t realized that blood on his hands is a recurring theme as well as the fly, the tippy cup, and the empty thought bubble. This time he has Obama cufflinks.

https://www.creators.com/features/a.f.-branco

cthulhu

They need another donkey on the other side shouting, “But Dobbs and abortion!”.

TheseTruths

Get vaxxed, get Bell’s palsy, declare you would do it again so you can see people. 🤦

TradeBait2

I would do it again. Martyr for the stupid…

Darwin effect.

Aubergine

This disgusts me on a level that is difficult to describe. Revulsion is the word.

TheseTruths

That level of compliance, to one’s own detriment, is revolting.

Aubergine

Agreed.

Cuppa Covfefe

The “People’s Temple” (Jim Jones) syndrome… they drank the Kool-Aid…

singingsoul1

The woman is a weak person very sad. I do not know how she became that way what goes on in her life. What causes a person to become so compliant? Maybe the way she was raised?

singingsoul1

I have empathy with her. Truly sad to be accepting of the evil she accepted in obedience. She seems unable to grasp what has been done to her was criminal negligence.

Aubergine

She doesn’t see it, that’s for sure. Stockholm Syndrome, sort of.

singingsoul1

Yes sad

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kalbokalbs

Dingbat is dumber than a box of rocks.

Zero empathy for her. Hope she does NOT have children. Cuz, if she does, the kids are also injected.

scott467

She said ‘but I would do it again, because that’s what we have to do, to see people’?!?

What in the world is she talking about?

You don’t need a vaxx to see anybody.

And if you knew that taking the vaxx would give you Bell’s Palsy, and you would do it again anyway, that is some kind of derangement.

There is something seriously wrong with you.

eilert

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The head of the (SVR) Foreign Intelligence Service Naryshkin said that Russia already has materials that indicate the role of the West in organizing and carrying out explosions at Nord Stream

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Obama Insurrection continues.

cthulhu

Things I DON’T want to be doing, but make me so happy when it works…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktIYrZn7Y9k

holly08

piper567

This ‘storm surge’ looks like a Tsunami!!!

eilert

Emerald Robinson
Sep 28
Fulton County Sues Dominion Voting Systems! (substack.com)
Was someone in Canada running Fulton County’s elections?

On September 20th, Fulton County (PA) filed a lawsuit against Dominion Voting Systems for breach of contract and breach of warrant.

Need I tell you, dear reader, that America’s corrupt corporate media ignored this landmark lawsuit?

Here’s page 13 of Fulton County’s 29-page lawsuit (read it here) and it’s a killer for electronic voting machines in America.

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Fulton County chose to hire another independent company called Speckin Forensics to analyze six hard drives from the Dominion machines, and those findings are contained in a September 2022 Report that is devastating for Dominion Voting Systems.

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That unauthorized “python script” was installed after the certification date of the system — and “[t]his python script can exploit and create any number of vulnerabilities including, external access to the system, data export of the tabulations, or introduction of other metrics not part of or allowed by the certification process.”

The September Report also found an “external IP address that is associated with Canada” in the workstation which shows “that at least one of the network devices has

connected to an external device on an external network.”

Here’s the smoking gun: “This was the same device that the post-certification python script was found on.”

There’s also a high probability that someone in Canada was running Fulton County’s elections remotely. “The log files for the Adjudication device showed an IP address of

172.102.16.22, which derives from a location in Quebec, Canada and that this

revealed a serious issue to be connected remotely to a Canadian system.”

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holly08

removed.

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duchess01
duchess01

BE MY VOICE

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BABY LIVES MATTER

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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duchess01

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow, that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ.

AMEN.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

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TradeBait2

Yep – pretty much spot on. Still have a hard time understanding why people are not understanding.

BRICS will be introducing their new, gold backed, currency soon. The dollar and the Euros are toast. Can people not see this is just another step toward the NWO?

So, whose side have the Clintons, the Bush’s, Obama, and Brandon really been on? Pretty obvious to me. Undermine the culture and Constitution. Check. Undermine the tradition and rewrite the history books. Check. Pervert the population with trans, gay rights, BLM, ANTIFA, etc. Check. MK and brainwash the population into depopulation. Check. Demilitarize the military. Check. Delegalize the alphabets. Check. Remove the Lord from all aspects of society. Check.

Vlad is in league with Godless communists and other power hungry despots from all parts of the globe. Unfortunately, as we have seen, many of them are right here in America.

We the People are the remnant in whatever nations around the world. The remaining ones who will be faithful to the Lord and work to preserve our people from the evil that is all around us. We look to the Lord for our salvation, both in this world and in eternity.

pgroup2

Disagree that Vlad is in league with any of that group. He’s a Russia First kind of guy and he won’t play second fiddle.

Aubergine

I think whoever blew up the pipeline, the last lines of this post may have been the whole point of the exercise:

“IF we are very lucky, this collapse of the EU / Europe and to some extent the UK (especially the currency) will clip the ambitions of the WEFies and Globalists as their world blows up.”

RAC

I don’t understand that, the only ones who have a chance to “clip the ambitions of the WEFies and Globalists” are the non nato ones, and they had the means to stop the gas by merely shutting the valves.

kalbokalbs

Excellent read. One puzzle for me. Chiefio closes with.

“IF we are very lucky, this collapse of the EU / Europe and to some extent the UK (especially the currency) will clip the ambitions of the WEFies and Globalists as their world blows up.”

MeThinks;

  • WEF and Globalists engineered the entire Ukraine / Russia conflict, INCLUDING blowing up NS 1 & 2.

Further.

  • Early 2022, BiteMe was primed to state NS 1 & 2 would cease, if Russia invaded Ukraine.
  • Much like BiteMe was primed to state the 2020 election ‘cheat” was in-place.
  • Of course BiteMe has no idea what he is saying, or the background of why he is saying it. BiteMe is a stooge, being masterfully manipulated by unseen puppeteers.
  • R-Cons Play Along AND defend the lunacy. NEVER forget this.
Aubergine

I should have refreshed the page! You and I pulled the exact same quote from the article, for opposite reasons! Lol.

RAC

Also whether he understood what he had been told or overheard he had foreknowledge of the dark winter we’re heading into

TradeBait2

I know some have their minds made up on this subject. I wish they would read this and then decide since it clearly states what is underway from a constitutional attorney’s and COS’ standpoint. It is still hard for me to comprehend how one can declare one’s belief in the Constitution as the “law of the land” and how all things should be determined, yet, not believe that applies to Article V. We are supposed to pretend it does not exist for the purpose in which it is intended. It is one path forward, of several, toward correcting abuses.

JMO.

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/us-constitution-article-v-convention?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=583200&post_id=75643843&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email

Aubergine

I skimmed. I admit it. Because there is no argument from anyone, anywhere, that could sway my belief on this.

America is TOO CORRUPT at this point in its history to so much as TOUCH the Constitution.

The people of America have lost something deep and important. I think that is a connection to the Divine, others may disagree. But we don’t have what the Founders had, to craft language in such a way as to describe universal truth and rights.

There would be no such thing as simply and beautifully written as “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances,” in any amendment written by the people who would attempt it today.

And because that is simply not possible, I will not agree that a Convention of States is acceptable until it is possible again.

We could begin by reforming the entire education system to include classical education. If that occurred, maybe a COS could be held fifty years later.

eilert

I don’t get why people are arguing against Article V, because it might contain some officials, which might be able to corrupt this process, but don’t see that Congress which has the same limited powers (proposing amendments) and limitations (ratification by 3/4 of the states) as an Article V convention has when changing the constitution, don’t use the same arguments against Congress.
Congress has actively (in fact unconstitutionally under the radar, with the help of some Supreme Court judges and leftist lawyers) undermined the constitution, for more than 100 years.

Article V is actually the only constitutional way the states still have to stop this attrition by Congress and the lawfare left.

TradeBait2

Exactly.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We don’t follow this constitution we have today.

What makes you think any amendments at all no matter how ideal they are will fix that? They’ll just ignore them.

If Aubergine’s fears are well founded and we end up with bad amendments, you can be sure THOSE will be followed.

pgroup2

[sad snort]

TheseTruths

People do have the same arguments against Congress. I have less than zero confidence that people tinkering with the Constitution would make things better precisely because of the current situation.

I also strongly suspect that the Article V movement has been infiltrated by those who have no greater desire than to destroy the Constitution.

I do not see anyone who possesses the intellect and foresight of our founders that would enable them to prevent further problems (with the possible exception of Alan Dershowitz, who seems able to analyze situations without prejudice and with knowledge of both historical precedent and reasoning). A while back, Mark Levin — “the great one,” a “Constitutional scholar,” a self-proclaimed expert — put forth some ideas that were obviously flawed. Yet, he is the kind of person people rely on for expertise. That’s a big “no thanks” from me.

I agree with Steve that new amendments would not be followed. One example from the article:

3: Most states that have passed the above resolution have passed “faithful delegate” laws, making it a felony to propose or support amendments or to fail to propose or support amendments counter to the instructions of the state legislature.

Who would enforce this? We currently have people subverting and stealing our elections with few or no penalties. Our country has been taken over by the radical Left by stealing the election from Trump and by other means, and so far that has not been made right. We have officials violating their oaths to uphold the Constitution without consequence. If those people were removed from office, it would go a long way toward solving the problem. But there are not enough people with the courage to take action. We need enforcement mechanisms.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

…And PEOPLE willing to use them.

You could have a PERFECT Constitution (ours is pretty doggone good but it is not perfect) and it won’t matter if the people in office are all crooks that back each other up, one-hand-washes-the-other gladhander types.

It’s bad enough when corrupt people have infiltrated government in spite of the people’s desires; it’s even worse if the populace at large operates that way, you’ll never get anything else in office. I fear we’re partway to that last situation already.

Tonawanda

Another perfect post.

TheseTruths

You humble me. Thank you.

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TradeBait2

Thanks for considering.

Aubergine

I will consider anything anyone seriously asks me to address. I just don’t change my mind easily. 🙂

TheseTruths

I completely agree.

Aubergine

🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You are right.

We wouldn’t NEED Article 5 right now, if we were following the constitution we already have.

Since we’re not…no conceivable amendment can fix the problem, since “they” won’t feel bound to follow it either.

Aubergine

That’s what I think, too.

Valerie Curren

Heartily agree!!!

Aubergine

🙂

Tonawanda

Perfect post.

Aubergine

Wow, thank you!

BillBeakman

I have felt the same since the first time I heard Mark Levin extolling the virtues of a COS.
This is not the environment for opening the Constitution to the agendas of a generation of people who have no value for that Constitution as constituted.
Maybe after someone like Trump has dragged us away from the precipice we can reconsider…

Aubergine

🙂

I would be SO happy to be dragged right about now!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

We wouldn’t even be thinking about Article V if we were following the Constitution we already have.

What’s the point of amending a document the government ignores anyway? Even the perfect amendment won’t solve that problem; they’ll just ignore that.

What are we going to do, pass an amendment that says “Oh, yeah, the second amendment? We meant it.”

On the flip side of the coin if Aubergine’s (and my) fear is realized and the process goes down a bad rabbit hole and produces bad amendments…you can BET that those WILL be followed. And we won’t even be able to complain that the government is ignoring the Constitution.

para59r

rabbit hole better, the camel will gets it’s nose under the tent.

That they won’t follow Article 5 as written is the greatest fear. As written Article 5 works like a charm as the whole process is supposed be conducted by the members of the Convention and the States and people themselves. There is no roll what so ever for President, Congress nor the Supreme Court. But sure as we are sitting here, some pretext, likely minor will be connived by Law Warfare Lawyers by which the Supreme Court gets involved and through that chink the whole thing unravels.

If I were to venture a guess, one of States would disingenuously muck up their selection of representatives for the Convention and law suits would begin there that would require the Supreme Court to get involved. From there a precedent is established that will further allow their involvement. The whole process of the Convention of States could easily take two or more years, plenty of time for Law Warfare to pry open a big enough door. The safe hatch is enough States withdraw the process thus stopping the Convention as stipulated in Article 5, but that is where the attempt will be made not to allow them to withdraw and then you get the runaway convention.

Pity though, because Article 5 takes the power back from those branches of govt and puts it back to the States totally circumventing them. A lot could be done with Article 5 as written, but for the fear stated above it may best be left as a very last resort or done in concert or threat of breaking apart from the Union.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I would much rather that they had written it so any state could propose an amendment, which could be ratified by the other states, same as one coming from congress…perhaps with a bigger supermajority of the states (4/5ths instead of 3/4s). That would have given us a way around a recalcitrant federal government that doesn’t look like going nuclear.

But they didn’t do that, so we have to work with what we have.

Basically as things are now the states simply have no way to check the federal level, other than going nuclear. “Checks and balances” doesn’t just apply to the three branches of the Federal government, it was also meant to apply between the state and federal levels of government. This is a point that wasn’t made when I was in school, the concept of “checks and balances” was taught as if it were entirely within the Federal government. (We had, by statutory requirement, a quarter year on the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. So even then it was being undermined and sabotaged.) The only other check the states had against the Federal level was the Senate, and the 17th Amendment deleted that. So now when the states get fed up, the only way to fix it is to put the entire constitution up for grabs; there’s no fine-adjustment possible.

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pgroup2

I disagree that the 17th removed the role of the states in the Senate.

The 17th, as I read it, only changed how senators were chosen. I see no change in their purpose of representing the states’ interests against the fed govt.

However, the actual practice is that the Senate changed its design from ‘ambassadors of the states to the fed’ to ‘super peoples representatives’ – with a filibuster.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I could have been more clear…when I said “states” I should have been saying “state legislatures” or “state governments”.

The 17th essentially decoupled the state governments from the Senate, and thereby removed the less drastic of the two checks the state governments had on the Federal level.

Yes, it’s still by states as tracts of land with people in them (and a lot of people like to piss and moan about unequal representation; in fact if SCOTUS could have gotten away with it they’d have declared the Senate unconstitutional on “one man, one vote” grounds decades ago).

I do understand and even sympathize a teeensy bit with one of the arguments in favor of the 17th amendment at the time: Apparently the selection process by state legislatures was often very, very corrupt. Imagine being able to get such a position, just by bribing or fellating a couple of party whips–and that’s assuming you weren’t already in the Good Ol’ Boys network. But it had the consequence of removing a check state governments had on the Federal government. Unfortunately here my creativity fails me; I can’t figure out a way to have state governments pick the Senate without such huge hazard of corruption. At this point, I’d rather accept that corruption and put it back the way it was with one added proviso; make it possible for the state to recall their senators and replace them at any time, with a maximum term of six years, once. That cuts the value of the position (and thus the incentive to try to buy it) down a bit since you wouldn’t, as a senator, be unanswerable to the state until your next term is about to start.

pgroup2

I get your meaning and you’re quite right.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Also, even under Article V, CONGRESS must actually issue the call for the convention. (What if they refuse to do so?) (“The Congress…on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing Amendments…”) [The first three dots are me eliding the normal process, it’s one or the other in the sentence, “or” is the last word I elided.]

And Congress gets to specify the mode of ratification of whatever the convention comes up with, choosing from either three fourths of state legislatures, or three fourths of conventions within the states. Actually, they also get to make this choice for ratifying amendments that they themselves propose, too, so far they’ve gone with legislatures most if not all of the time.

So even under this scenario of states calling for a convention, Congress can–in fact, is required to–get its grubby paws into the process.

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cthulhu

The one good thing that I could imagine coming from an Article V Convention would be an “….or else….” to the rest of the Constitution.

Something like, “if SCOTUS finds a law unconstitutional, then all acts of the Congress that passed the law are null-and-void, and every Congressman that voted for it shall be executed for treason.”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I found myself liking a lot of the ideas Professor Bernardo de la Paz brainstormed in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, such as requiring a 2/3rds vote to pass a law in one chamber…and let the other chamber repeal any law with a 1/3 vote. Or being able to pick any representative, not necessarily from your state…you sign his petition you’re one of his constituents. (I’d sign up with Lauren Bobert in an instant!)

Stuff like that would be very difficult to retrofit into our Constitution without breaking its paradigm into a million pieces but for something completely new (like the independent Moon)…

cthulhu

There are a few structural items that would be fun. How about a bill must pass THREE chambers — the people [House], the states [Senate], and the taxpayers [New]? Each dollar paid in Federal taxes gives an entity one vote, so if the tax on your 1040 were $11,263, you’d have 11,263 votes.

That would make it extremely difficult for the House to pass laws gouging taxpayers.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Interesting…but it depends on there being an income tax.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Maybe compartmentalize in another way.

Congress passes bills that affect everyone…”Laws” in popular parlance, things that make actions a crime or carry a civil penalty, that apply to everyone. (This should include “regulations” too.)

They also pass the budget, which consequently has the force of law, but that’s really a matter internal to the government. I can’t, after all possibly commit the crime of spending an extra million dollars on lizard sex studies instead of on ammunition for the DOD, unless I’m actually IN the government. (Even the grant recipient only gets the money after someone else in the government misdirects it.)

And then there are taxes.

Have three different procedures for passing these different kinds of measures. Taxes should be difficult to increase, but easy to decrease. Laws, similarly–difficult to enact, easy to repeal. The budget, honestly, only applies for one year anyway so I don’t even see how you could repeal it…but maybe additional appropriations throughout the year should be difficult (meaning, hopefully, only in an emergency).

I don’t know if there should be completely separate bodies for each; separate bodies to impose or repeal even (potentially five bodies) or some sort of overlap. If there is some chamber that only deals with repealing laws, for instance, that’s good. If they get bored, they might do something useful.

I mean as long as we’re engaged in unrealistic/impractical thought experiments…

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RDS

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2022/09/30/exclusive-medical-examiners-were-told-to-lie-on-death-certificates/
by Steve Kirsch

Kirsch: “In Massachusetts, the state Department of Public Health told medical examiners that if the person died with COVID, to list COVID as a cause of death, even if COVID had nothing to do with the reason the person died…This is a violation of federal law.”

TradeBait2

Yes. But according to posters above, it does not matter as they will not administer the laws as written now. We will sit back and wait for the knight in shining armor to save the day for a country that over half of the world hates.

Which means every criminal act by the federal government and its agencies is legal until said knight slays the dragon.

Wonder how that’s going to work out. Not really.

What does total debt divided by GDP equaling 1.5 (today) and worsening mean?

Do you enjoy watching your federal government giving $100 B to Jazis instead of taking care of illegal activities and protecting the homeland? They are quite proud they are doing so while planning to introduce bugs to the food supply.

https://www.longtermtrends.net/us-debt-to-gdp/

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/debt-to-gdp-ratio-by-country

BRICS is going to have their own currency. That means America will be defaulting on its debt at some point in the future since the key countries in BRICS do not have an excessive leverage problem. China will be leading the charge with all of the debt they hold. When that happens the federal government collapses and the states have to take over. Who pays the military to protect us from the black hats when the money supply has no value?

Folks might want to think this through.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes. But according to posters above, it does not matter as they will not administer the laws as written now. We will sit back and wait for the knight in shining armor to save the day for a country that over half of the world hates.

If you’re referring to the conversation above about the convention of the states…how does it follow that because we think CoS would be a bad idea right now, that we are waiting for a knight in shining armor?

If that’s not what you’re referring to…well, please ignore.

barkerjim
RDS

h/t Marica’s blog:

“@DrJamesOlsson

CLINTONDALE, Michigan – Five-Year-Old Kindergarten Student Dead, After Suffering “Stroke”…

Jaxon Torres suffered a brain rupture…

Grandson of Stacey Kubbe, Vice President of the Clintondale Board of Education…

— macombdaily

10:15AM – Sept 29, 2022”

(Yours Truly: JAB? JAB? JAB? The one that the FDA authorized for YOUNG CHILDREN?)

mollypitcher5

Sad. Sad. Murder in my way of thinking. Some musician died the other day. Named Coolio, went to the bathroom at a friend’s home and fell over dead

TheseTruths

I read that children can have strokes but that they are rare. I had never heard of it happening before. I have a feeling we’re going to see more of it, sadly.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes, it’s something “new” since Covid. Or rather since the Covid shots.

And they’re doing their best to convince people childhood strokes are not as rare as getting gold coins in your change.

TheseTruths

GWP reports that the child had a previously unknown existing condition:

According to the findings of the doctors, Jax suffered from a rare brain disorder called arteriovenous malformation (AVM), which caused a rupture in his brain.

According to Cleveland Clinic, arteriovenous malformations (AVMs) are tangles of blood vessels that cause abnormal artery-to-vein connections. Most occur in your brain and spinal cord, but they can happen anywhere in your body. Some people have symptoms; others only have symptoms after an event like a brain bleed. Surgery to remove the AVM is a cure.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Still voting for a role by the jab!

Aubergine

I know I’ve said it before, but I’m gonna say it again; the key to understanding what Mitt Romney does is in understanding that Mitt is controlled by his religion, the Mormon Church.

Mitt does what the Mormons say he does. Period, end of statement.

holly08

👍

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ROBERT BAKER

QUESTION: Your comment implies that the Mormon Church sets Romney’s political agenda. I do not follow Mormon politics closely so I cannot debate your position in an informed way so I will content myself with this clarifying question. Is the Mormon Church the underlying reason for Romney’s treasonous behavior?

pgroup2

Cutting to the big issue seems to be your specialty.  😎 

Aubergine

Lol! I am sort of like that 🙂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

CIA, IMO. They seem to have taken control of the Mormons, in large part because the religion requires more suspension of disbelief than most, but also because of other useful characteristics. JMO.

Aubergine

“Suspension of disbelief.”

Buddy, you can say that again!

Aubergine

Simply, yes.

A “good” Mormon is compelled to follow the direction of the head of the church. So whatever that guy says, Romney will do. They believe the guy “at the top” talks DIRECTLY to God every day, and they do what he says to do.

para59r

The Mormons have always had global ambitions. That they would want to be included in the New World Order is not surprising. They also seem to have access to power if they can manage to get several of theirs to be in charge of the FED throughout the FEDS brief existence. Even now I believe they occupy two FED chairs, though I believe one of them is retiring or will be soon.

I believe I told the story before, that while I was working as an Inspector General (we were a two man shop. Me the assistant and the Major, the actual IG) for the Forth Region ROTC based out of Fort Lewis, covering all ROTC programs west of the Mississippi we received a crazy complaint from an admin guy working at one of the Utah campus’s. His complaint was that the Morman’s had taken over the Armies Accessions Board at the Pentagon. What the Accessions Board does is place the Army’s officers in jobs. Essentially they choose and fill officer duty positions and his complaint was that the Morman’s were had taken nominal control of that. I don’t think that was ever resolved. If it was the Major never spoke about it. That was back in late 90’s I believe. My thoughts on that at the time were, well, given the degradation with the moral underpinnings of our current corps of officers that they could only help the situation more than hurt it. Lots of generals are Mormans or Latter Day Saints but you have to look deep to see it.

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Aubergine

Interesting…

Tonawanda

Why would the Mormons want to do the slimey stuff Romney does?

Aubergine

I believe I have read someone here who thought that the C_A had infiltrated/co-oped/worked with the Mormons. That would explain a LOT.

phoenixrising

via Intel Slava Z – after Putin’s speech and after entry of 4 oblasts into RF

Putin’s words are much more important than unity with four new political subjects: it is a fundamental declaration of war against the modern West and the modern world in general. This is the manifesto of Tradition. I cannot imagine the depth of the consequences of this. Just as in the Old Testament David threw a slingshot at the giant Goliath, so it is today. It was an eschatological, religious discourse.

— Alexander Dugin

phoenixrising

Gonna be Biblical ?

phoenixrising

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/30/liz-truss-how-world-press-sees-uk

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/30/office-for-budget-responsibility-to-give-forecast-to-chancellor-on-7-october

Truss and Kwarteng to hold back OBR forecasts for six weeksPM and chancellor say they will not publish projections until late November despite them being ready next week

phoenixrising

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/shocked-wall-street-reacts-after-nike-plummets-unexpected-inventory-surge

It was all the way back in May when we first warned that a reversal of the “shortage of everything” bullwhip effect was coming, as soaring inventories (the result of covid-era overordering due to snarled supply chains) are about to hit a slowing economy brick wall, and prices are about to fall off a cliff as companies are forced to liquidate said inventories into a recession (see “Bullwhip Effect Ends With A Bang: Why Prices Are About To Fall Off A Cliff” from May 23), a point we also made repeatedly in the months that followed (“Bullwhip-Effect Reversal Is The Major Downside Growth Risk“; “The ‘Bullwhip Effect’ Will Frustrate The Fed“). And while the market largely ignored what was coming with the occasional exception…”

phoenixrising

warning: eye-bleach needed

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The Morning Report — 9/30/22
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https://ace.mu.nu/archives/401191.php

pgroup2

Is there a point here?

‘Cause I ain’t gettin’ it.

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phoenixrising

Sefton makes a point or two … I posted link to his article …

pgroup2

And the porno pic was germane? Still missing its purpose, other than to inflict disgust upon my eyeballs.

barkerjim
Barb Meier

Thanks for posting this one barkerjim! I enjoyed it. Easy to follow and offers a lot of interesting nuggets about what’s going on there. I subscribed to Big Serge and read the whole piece. Sometimes it can be hard to dive into long commentaries after a day of working and everything going on. This one was time well spent. 🙂

ROBERT BAKER

Adding to your point DP: This was the same motivation for writing the New Testament in Koine Greek instead of Hebrew. Koine Greek was the language of the marketplace during the time the NT was written thus being an accessible way to understand the Scriptures. It is also one of the reasons the Septuagint was translated from Hebrew to Greek, to maximize its utility to the culture. Koine was the lingua franca at the time of Jesus and His contemporaries. Latin was the lingua franca at the time of the Vulgate translation.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It certainly made sense at the time to translate into Latin, but the original argument that DP pushed back on wasn’t that, rather it was that it didn’t make sense to then translate that Latin into a different language (e.g., English). Why make a translation of a translation? Why not just translate the original Koine Greek?

I’ve got no dog in this fight, honestly, but if the original text is important, then the best way to go is 1) learn the language it was written in. That’s a LOT of work 99.9% of people don’t have time for, so second best, 2) get a translation directly from that language into your language, done by trusted people who understand the original language. It’s absolutely unavoidable that some nuances will be lost–there are ways to mitigate this with footnotes and sidebars and the like to try to explain them. But there’s no justification for compounding that by making a translation of a translation.

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pgroup2

Which is exactly the reason I use The Complete Jewish Bible, by David Stern.

ROBERT BAKER

You make a reasonable point. I am not sure but I think Jerome used the Masoretic text instead of the Septuagint for his translation of the Old Testament. It would seem that Jerome shared your position that translation from the original language was preferred.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

If you are right about Jerome using the Masoretic text, I’ll happily stand corrected on that detail.

GA/FL

Wikipedia says he used a Hebrew text….
He completed this work by 405. Prior to Jerome’s Vulgate, all Latin translations of the Old Testament were based on the Septuagint, not the Hebrew. Jerome’s decision to use a Hebrew text instead of the previous-translated Septuagint went against the advice of most other Christians, including Augustine, who thought the Septuagint inspired.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerome#Translation_of_the_Bible_(382–405)

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Which is interesting! I will stand corrected as I said.

I was about to come here and suggest maybe I was right the first time, because I was looking up something else in Wiki and came upon the fact that there is an inconsistency in the numbering of the Psalms. Basically the “Hebrew” numbering is what Protestant churches use, and the “Greek” numbering (from the Septuagint) is what the Roman Catholic church uses. What to a Protestant is a pair of psalms, 9 & 10, is combined into Psalm 9 in the RC church; all the numbers are off after that. That suggests that Jerome used a Greek text.

But he didn’t. So why are the Psalms numbered in the Septuagint style by the Roman Catholic church?

Valerie Curren

My OT professor on the committee to translate the NIV made the point how certain meanings were lost. There was an OT prophet that God gave visions to & God would ask the prophet what he saw. The Sound of those words in Hebrew was quite similar to the sound of the words God was using to make a particular point. This mnemonic device is Completely lost in translatio! As just one example of numerous potential issues…

Tonawanda

Erasmus agreed with your pov, and acted accordingly. He remained a Catholic his entire life, but he was attacked by Catholics for his rationality.

Erasmus translated certain passages so they conflicted with the dogma of the Catholic Church. Jerome was far from perfect in his effort. Many Catholic officials resisted any changes.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Actually the first language in the entire eastern half of the empire was Greek–and arguably that was the most important half of the Empire. That’s why it kept getting divided along that line, first under Diocletian (late 3rd century) and then later after Theodosius (late 4th century, for the last time). The Eastern Roman empire that survived the collapse of the Western portion was culturally Greek even if they called themselves “Romanoi”

Not only that the East was wealthier than the West. Really, once the Roman empire had firm control of the Eastern mediterranean, the West was effectively an appendage, a fact that Constantine recognized by moving the capital to Constantinople.

As the New testament was written in Greek originally (not Aramaic), it certainly made sense to the most important parts of the empire to leave it in Greek.

But even if not, it’s simply silly to base ENGLISH translations on a LATIN translation of a GREEK original; translate directly from Greek to English. Every translation is a lossy process, so one should minimize the number of times it’s done.

It’s even worse translating the Vulgate into English for the OLD testament, because that chain runs English from Latin from Greek (the Septuagint) from Hebrew.

para59r

Just adding. At the time there were multiple arguments going on between the Patriarchs in Constantinople and the rest of the Pentarchy (the recognized seats of the church: Rome, Constantinople, Jerusalem, Antioch and Alexandria) over a small host of seemingly minor issues (but to church officials) on how to interpret what was written in the Bible after the books accepted for the Bible were agreed to. Minding that some books never made the cut to get into the Bible resulting in other angst that had to be smoothed out over time and some of those issues migrated to various seats of the church after their decent was not heard. The issue of Arianism and it’s similar issue on the make up of the trinity as to Jesus being of the same substance as God, Iconoclasm latter on are among some of the issues.

Anyway, the need to have the bible written in vulgar, was important in that a church offical could put their finger to the verse and interpret from there, rather than send back to Constantinople and say we don’t think this means what you say it means and then await for their answer. And why bother when you already know they aren’t going to send back an answer you think is right.

So in essence this was a way to circumvent the Patriarchs of Constantinople who worked under the thumb of the Emperor and thus in a way localism asserted itself.

Complicated business the administration of the Bible was/is.

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That last statement of yours has been submitted to the judges of the Understatement of the Year contest.

Aubergine

Somewhere back in the dim recesses of my mind, I knew this about the Vulgate Bible.

phoenixrising

via Intel Slava Z

Now we cannot accept Ukraine into NATO – Stoltenberg

phoenixrising

phoenixrising

WHOA!

TradeBait2

As NATO slowly backs away from the precipice.

kalbokalbs

NATO has blinked. Cowering shortly. Dumb asses.

RAC

Why are they distancing themselves now, I wonder. /s

phoenixrising

They have no recourse … they can’t last 2 weeks in a conventional war …

TradeBait2

Exactly – paper tiger.

kalbokalbs

EU / NATO preparing to take two knees, along with a deep bow to Putin. Followed by endless groveling.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

EU (to say nothing of NATO) should have never let Soros manipulate it into overexpansion.

RAC

“EU parliamentarian calls to sanction Vanessa Beeley and all observers of Donbass referendums”
“A French Member of European Parliament (MEP), Natalie Loiseau, has delivered a letter to EU High Representative of Foreign Affairs, Joseph Borrell, demanding the European Union place personal sanctions on all international observers of the recent votes in the Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics and certain Russian-controlled territories in eastern Ukraine.”

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/09/29/eu-parliamentarian-sanction-vanessa-beeley-donbass-referendums/

para59r

Seems no different than Soros money going after anyone, impartial or not, from giving the Steal an honest evaluation. Same freaking play book. The people will see though this.

Story also has this tweet from Max Blumenthal.

Of note the American Airforce Col. wearing the Ukrainian Flag and a Ukrainian Shoulder Patch.

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This is the patch. Apparently one of the new patches adopted by the Ukrainian Military.
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Meanwhile, unless she has personal authorization from the Secretary of the Airforce granted to her or her unit to wear that thing (something that wouldn’t surprise me, no matter how shocking it is) this is clearly wrong.

Also adds this is protrayed as new Ukrainian Military Patch but no site carries it. Yet you know it’s real because she’s wearing it. So if sites aren’t carrying it, must indeed be some embarrassment involved here.

Also adds that this is a left organizational shoulder patch which implies she’s part of that organization. So we have our military serving in or with Ukraine.

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phoenixrising

I have the greatest respect for Max Blumenthal …

Barb Meier

Is it real, or was it photoshopped?

para59r

Good question. Appears real. But it’s certainly wrong. She works at the embassy in Kiev. Not seeing anything fact based denying it.

WSB

Extra-curicular activity?

RDS

Per Marica’s blog:

Marica’s father, who has been living in a facility for some time, is being transferred to a heart specialty hospital due to problems that showed up.
Please keep her and her family in thoughts and prayers. Thank you.

pat frederick

thanks for letting us know!
prayers going up now!

Valerie Curren

Amen!

RAC

Not surprised, any bets they’re sorros, wef type trouble makers…

“Iran arrests nine citizens of Germany, Poland, Italy, France, the Netherlands, Sweden and other countries for participating in the riots – authorities”

https://t.me/intelslava/38217

phoenixrising

via Bernhard at MoA:

September 30, 2022

Ukraine – Four Oblasts Join Russia

In 1922 Vladimir Il’ich Lenin, head of the revolutionary Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, decided that several regions which for centuries had been Russian and under Russian rule were to be put, for reasons unknown, under the administration of the Soviet Socialist Republic of Ukraine. In 1954 a similar decision was taken with regards to autonomous republic of Crimea.

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The sudden disintegration of the Union in 1991 led to unruly phases in the newly created republics. Ethnic Russian people suddenly found themselves in territory that was no longer ruled by Moscow. In several of the new countries ethnic non-Russian majorities started to suppress the Russian minorities. Today’s Baltic countries, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, are to various degrees prime examples for this.

Before 1991 the Ukraine had never existed as a state or independent entity. The early Cossack tribes in the yellow part and green parts of the map had asked for Russian protection against attacks from Poland, Lithuania and other neighbors. In the new Ukraine ethnic Russians were nearly half of the population and the parties they supported managed to win several countrywide elections. Big voting differences were visible along regional/ethnic lines. The country had strong economic relations with Russia. Its industry depended on Russian gas while nearly all its machine and steel exports went to Russia.

Cont. reading: Ukraine – Four Oblasts Join Russia

Posted by b at 15:36 UTC 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The failure of the fail media to understand history is part of why they sucked up Soviet Democrat propaganda for so long.

cthulhu

vk.com refuses to run unless you allow it to run javascript.

GA/FL

This Kari Lake bio campaign ad is awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MBi_Aomde0

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That is a FANTASTIC video!!!

TheseTruths

Healthy young student is dead one day after Covid Vaccine…https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/healthy-young-student-is-dead-one-day-after-covid-vaccine/

“Our beautiful 20 year-old healthy daughter, Regan Lewis had a Covid shot yesterday so she could participate in her clinicals. Today, she went into cardiac arrest and has been flown to Kearney.”

RDS

IMO, this atrocity can be laid at the feet of Anthony Fauci, of the FDA / CDC, of the nursing school, and of Albert Bourla (if she got a Pfizer shot), or of Stephane Bancel (if she got a Moderna shot).
May this young woman rest in peace, and may her family somehow find comfort.

TheseTruths

Yes to all. And her nursing school required something that killed her. At least the parent(s) are already suspicious and didn’t say something stupid about “the good that vaccines do.” I hope lawsuits are on the horizon.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

DON’T TAKE THE REAPER.

GA/FL

TODAY – 11 AM – Monster Wave Miami – 6 people injured.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And the twit has hashtags all over that blaming it on climate change. 🙁

GA/FL

There are also folks blaming contrails and bioweapons…

GA/FL

Addendum – not for the rogue waves, but for the big storms.

RAC

“Putin accuses Anglo-Saxons of sabotage at Nord Stream pipelines”
“MOSCOW, September 30. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin stated that sanctions pressure on Moscow is not enough for Anglo-Saxons and they have moved on to sabotage.
“Sanctions are not enough for Anglo-Saxons. They have turned to sabotage, it’s unbelievable, but true, having organized explosions on the international gas pipelines of the Nord Stream, which run along the bottom of the Baltic Sea, they have actually begun to destroy the pan-European energy infrastructure,” the head of state said at the accession ceremony of four new regions to Russia on Friday.”
(more at the link)

https://tass.com/politics/1516113
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Anglo-Saxons sounds like he’s blaming UK, and that idiot truss would have no qualms about OK’ing such a move I don’t doubt.It may be his way of describing the west in general though as he later speaks about the US and nato.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

At least during WWII when they wanted to distinguish between “The Allies” who included the Soviet Union, and the allies without the Soviet Union…people would say “Anglo-American.” At least until France got back into it in a big way.

But if he meant the UK, then why not say so? No need to call them “Anglo Saxons”. Unless he’s claiming Wales, Scotland and Ireland had nothing to do with it but England does.

For this reason I suspect he may have meant Anglo-American…but until/unless he clarifies, I wouldn’t bet either way.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

UK+Dutch?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Saxony is in Germany. Although English seems to be most closely related (historically) to Frisian, and those folks do come from the Netherlands…but Putin didn’t say Frisian.

“Anglo Saxon” any way one cuts it, is a synonym for “English.” Not even “British” but “English.” Though it can be used over here to mean people of English descent (as in “White Anglo-Saxon Protestant”).

Like I said I think there’s a good chance Putin meant “Anglo American.”

GA/FL

Poignant thread and comments….people talking about the experience of a hurricane.

I often say, hurricane events have 3 phases people go through.
1. Anxiety phase – the prep days leading up to a storm
2. Terrifying phase – going through the storm
3. Indescribable phase – the weeks, months, years of recovery. Many lives have been changed forever.

mollypitcher5

Very grateful and humbled that the hurricane blew through here. No damage
Thankful but so tired, was up before dawn and fretted and worried for the hours it rampaged.

TheseTruths

Very good news!

mollypitcher5

yes!

cthulhu

Yay!!!

gil00

Good. You earned a “hurricane ” for making it through a hurricane. Hopefully thats it this year.

mollypitcher5

Cheers!!!!!!!!!

GA/FL

What a blessing – thank you for letting us know.

Aubergine

Good grief! Did these people never see The Wicker Man!?”

““You’re about to meet an international phenomenon who has traveled across 12 countries with an urgent message from every child fleeing war, violence and oppression: “Don’t forget about us,” Goldberg said as a 15-foot puppet walked across the set. “Her journey has led her here today. So, please welcome a powerful symbol of human rights. Her name is Little Amal.”

Little Amal, whose name means hope in Arabic, is on a worldwide pilgrimage to raise awareness about the plight of unaccompanied refugee minors, explained Amir Nizir Zuabi, who designed of the puppet in 2021.”

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/09/cult-whoopi-unveils-little-amal-terrifying-15-foot-puppet-calls-powerful-symbol-human-rights/

Look at the pictures of this thing! It IS a cult.

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mollypitcher5

They’re insane

Aubergine

Agreed!

TheseTruths

It reminds me of a human-made god that people are in awe of and even worship, even if unwittingly. Those people might just be taking pics, but they appear to be gazing up in adoration. Suddenly we’re back in ancient times, not having learned a thing.

The “plight of unaccompanied refugee minors” sounds like a good cause, but I think they’re shilling for open borders instead of fighting human trafficking.

Aubergine

Yes. People have not learned much in 3000 years.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Typical cult, sad to say. You see one, you’ve seen Amal…

Aubergine

Oh, Cuppa! You make me laugh!

gil00

Ha….

mollypitcher5

Several of these monument things are hideous and crude. It may as well been crafted by people who haven’t discovered fire yet.

TheseTruths

Yes. And they’re overpowering people with the size. The thing has to have people supporting it. But I would not like a high-tech, self-supporting, transhumanist, robotic version either.

Cuppa Covfefe

There’s always the Stay-Puft man 😀

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly.

wowohwow1528

… 😖 🤚 ‼️ ‼️ ‼️ … EVIL ‼️ ‼️ …

Christ with me, Christ before me, Christ behind me,

Christ in me, Christ beneath me, Christ above me,

Christ on my right, Christ on my left,

Christ where I lie, Christ where I sit, Christ where I arise,

Christ in the heart of everyone who thinks of me,

Christ in the mouth of every one who speaks to me,

Christ in every eye that sees me,

Christ in every ear that hears me.

Salvation is of the Lord.

Salvation is of the Christ.

May your salvation, Lord, be ever with us.

St. Patrick

Job 26:13
“By His breath the heavens are cleared;
His hand has pierced the fleeing serpent.

Source: https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Power-Of-Holy-Spirit,-Shown-In

“In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, 
you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,
who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.” Ephesians 1:13-14.

Amen … 🙏🏼

Aubergine

Amen.

gil00

Thats a lot disturbing.

Aubergine