Dear KAG: 20221116 Open Thread

Forget the camels. Don’t you love the set from Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail…I mean the Petra?

Okay, let it be known that this is being put together a few hours before President Trump makes his big announcement, so the coverage of the fallout will be on tomorrow’s daily.

There Was No Cheating, Peasant!

How DARE YOU question the narrative.

The GOP Is Projecting When It Blames Trump

Talk about a great awakening.

The Lost Art of Spotting Sociopaths

Pychopaths, too. But that’s another story.

The Virtues of Smoke-Filled Rooms

Purity, humility, temperance….

Yeah, no virtues in the smoke filled rooms there.

Is California on its way to banning rodeos? Behind the growing movement to buck the event

Read the article before judging the concept as completely anti-American.


Yes, but America First people are packing heat. If this is a knife fight, the patriots have the guns.

New Prager:

Between Left and Right, How Do You Know Which Side Isn’t Telling the Truth?

Ad market worse than during lows of the pandemic, says Warner Bros Discovery CEO David Zaslav

Say what?

‘So Pissed Off, I Cannot Even See Straight’ — Ted Cruz Blames Mitch McConnell For GOP Midterm Losses


‘More Than Enough Time’: Ted Cruz Calls For Release Of Big Tech Privacy Report

What is Lyin’ Ted playing at?

GOING VIRAL: Former NSC Staffer Exposes How Corporations End Up Getting What They Want From The Federal Government

GOP Senators’ Top Priority After Failed Midterms Is Helping Democrats Trample The Meaning Of Marriage

One man and one woman join together to bring children into the world and raise them to be productive members of society.

Is that so hard?

Billboards Near CDC Campus Ask: ‘How Many More Kids Have to Die’?

Elections Were Stolen: Do NOT Let Them Gaslight You Into Thinking Otherwise

Within Minutes of Arizona Gov Election Call, Twitter, DHS and Big Tech Begin Blocking Discussion of Difference Between “Ballots and Votes”

The need for control is a reaction to fear.

Twitter specifically, and Big Tech writ large, has now placed a warning on the CTH article where we draw attention to the general difference between ballots and votes. The timing of the intervention, as related to the content discussed, is transparent. Sunlight is a great disinfectant and must be controlled at all costs.

In one sense this effort to block discussion is irrelevant, the discussion is now taking place; attentions are being paid; the horse is out of the barn; millions are now expanding the discussion and applying Occam’s Razor to the simple reality. This is why information providers and independent researchers must work with urgency and diligence to control their own platforms.

CTH is never going to stop discussing the uncomfortable stuff because Truth Has No Agenda, regardless of our personal feelings or opinions on the matter.

Look WHAT’S happened to Bookstores!

Buddy tells joke about OBAMA, HUNTER & DESANTIS on a CRUISE SHIP!




I remember this as a tornado drill, but okay.

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

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  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone

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1After this I looked, and lo, in heaven an open door! And the first voice, which I had heard speaking to me like a trumpet, said, “Come up hither, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2At once I was in the Spirit, and lo, a throne stood in heaven, with one seated on the throne! 3And he who sat there appeared like jasper and carnelian, and round the throne was a rainbow that looked like an emerald. 4Round the throne were twenty-four thrones, and seated on the thrones were twenty-four elders, clad in white garments, with golden crowns upon their heads. 5From the throne issue flashes of lightning, and voices and peals of thunder, and before the throne burn seven torches of fire, which are the seven spirits of God; 6and before the throne there is as it were a sea of glass, like crystal. And round the throne, on each side of the throne, are four living creatures, full of eyes in front and behind: 7the first living creature like a lion, the second living creature like an ox, the third living creature with the face of a man, and the fourth living creature like a flying eagle. 8And the four living creatures, each of them with six wings, are full of eyes all round and within, and day and night they never cease to sing, “Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord God Almighty, who was and is and is to come!” 9And whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to him who is seated on the throne, who lives for ever and ever, 10the twenty-four elders fall down before him who is seated on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever; they cast their crowns before the throne, singing, 11“Worthy art thou, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, for thou didst create all things, and by thy will they existed and were created.”

PSALMS 150:1-6

1Praise the LORD! Praise God in his sanctuary; praise him in his mighty firmament! 2Praise him for his mighty deeds; praise him according to his exceeding greatness! 3Praise him with trumpet sound; praise him with lute and harp! 4Praise him with timbrel and dance; praise him with strings and pipe! 5Praise him with sounding cymbals; praise him with loud clashing cymbals! 6Let everything that breathes praise the LORD! Praise the LORD!

My favorite setting of this here.

LUKE 19:11-28

11As they heard these things, he proceeded to tell a parable, because he was near to Jerusalem, and because they supposed that the kingdom of God was to appear immediately. 12He said therefore, “A nobleman went into a far country to receive a kingdom and then return. 13Calling ten of his servants, he gave them ten pounds, and said to them, `Trade with these till I come.’ 14But his citizens hated him and sent an embassy after him, saying, `We do not want this man to reign over us.’ 15When he returned, having received the kingdom, he commanded these servants, to whom he had given the money, to be called to him, that he might know what they had gained by trading. 16The first came before him, saying, `Lord, your pound has made ten pounds more.’ 17And he said to him, `Well done, good servant! Because you have been faithful in a very little, you shall have authority over ten cities.’ 18And the second came, saying, `Lord, your pound has made five pounds.’ 19And he said to him, `And you are to be over five cities.’ 20Then another came, saying, `Lord, here is your pound, which I kept laid away in a napkin; 21for I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man; you take up what you did not lay down, and reap what you did not sow.’ 22He said to him, `I will condemn you out of your own mouth, you wicked servant! You knew that I was a severe man, taking up what I did not lay down and reaping what I did not sow? 23Why then did you not put my money into the bank, and at my coming I should have collected it with interest?’ 24And he said to those who stood by, `Take the pound from him, and give it to him who has the ten pounds.’ 25(And they said to him, `Lord, he has ten pounds!’) 26`I tell you, that to every one who has will more be given; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 27But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slay them before me.'” 28And when he had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.

Please include: President Donald Trump, the Q team, our soldiers in the field, special forces, tactical units, first responders and those working behind the scenes…and any and all people with family members in the hospital, COVID or not.

And…members of the QTree who no longer participate for one reason or another.

It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.


Trump To Unveil List Of Savage New Nicknames For Ron DeSantis

Below is a list of additional names Trump is adding to his insult encyclopedia in preparation for the Republican Primaries:

  • Wrong DeSantis
  • Ron DeSad! Not Good!
  • Fake Tan Ronnie
  • Lego Minifigure-Head Ron
  • Ronnie No Neck
  • RINO Ronnie
  • Son of a Motherless Goat
  • Ron DeStupid
  • Ron DeSCAMtis
  • Ron De StinkyPants
  • Fart Knocker
  • Groin DeSantis
  • Ron DePantless
  • Rose Tico

At publishing time, witnesses had overheard Trump excitedly yell out another brilliant insult, “Raunchy Ronnie.”

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I like it!


Yep. Approved for MAGA Meme Use.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Speaking of “Ronnie No-Neck” from that hilarious Babylon Bee link….”  😂 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I remain a huge DeSantis fan, even though I am absolutely thrilled that TRUMP has jumped in and splashed the water out of the pool for any “next” action!


A cannonball will move lots of the water out of the pool.


Just when they thought they were shoveling dirt into his grave! Suckers!


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. I think they’re doing strange things.

“Trans-ballots” becoming “transvotes”!


Ron Filipkowski:

Lindell is at Mar-a-Lago, and claims he has the proof that Kari Lake and Blake Masters won: “They’re absolutely caught. They’re gonna be sworn affidavits. I don’t think there’s a judge in this country that can’t say we need a new election in AZ. You can’t certify this election!”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m willing to hope – and also to let some judge prove how corrupt he or she is.

Let’s see the goods!!!

Gail Combs

Once you have corrupted all the judges election STEALING can be done IN THE OPEN and honest people have ZERO SAY in the matter.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy


The COMMUNIST DEMOCRATS have a strategy!

Gail Combs

60+ cases of ‘No Standing’

We are ALL harmed when the price of turkey goes from $0.27 per pound (Thanksgiving 2020) to $1.00 per pound ON SALE yesterday…
When it cost over $160.00 to fill my tank yesterday vs $68.67 on 11/12/20
AND when I am FORCED to donate to the DNC via money laundering of tax payer dollars.

JW in Germany

Actually We the People do have the final say according to the Constitution—but I am doubting that we would ever have the stomach to use that Amendment anymore.

That said, I do not believe we are to that point quite yet.

Gail Combs

Dr Lee Merritt brought this up. (She now thinks germ theory is a crock so Patrick Gunnels had her at ThreadfestII — I disagree. I have seen too much evidence via my animals.)

Mind Control & Mass Poisoning: The Truth About Fluoride

Fluoride, a byproduct of fertilizer, steel, and aluminum production, can be traced back to the Third Reich. According to chemist Charles E. Perkins, Hitler desired an elixir that would create a more docile population and sterilization of certain groups. Nazi physicians discovered one particular neurotoxin which met the Führer’s demands.

She also brought up Covid clot shot deaths:

 UK gov. (ONS) DEATHS >60 (over 60)
1 in 482 dead within a month
1 in 246 dead within 60 days
1 in 73 dead in 12 weeksBetween Jan & Mar 2022: 63 K were dead within 7 weeks of the booster.

Irish ER visits Jan to June
Normal – 117,000
2022 – 730,000

Soccer players Death on field (FIFA)
1889 – 1999 zero to 3 deaths (Collision and struck by lightening)
2000 – 2020 3 to 10 deaths ( Mostly heart attack (Flu shot and vac schedule)
2021 – 21

JW in Germany

Picking us off one by one.


We had SOLID PROOF the last time around – that the 2020 election was fraudulent – but the courts, congress and even the VP ignored it.

The effing bee eye staged a false flag op to smear the rightful POTUS!


The VP is also a traitor who was in on the steal.


So true – he betrayed the Constitution, the US election system and the American voter!


Now to find a judge to review the evidence…

Now to get the AZ legislature, or whoever certifies AZ election to review the evidence…

Wonder what Kari’s next step will be?

Unfortunately Blake Masters already conceded. Stoopid to concede.

Laxalt in NV conceded. <<< Dumb ass. A stolen election and he conceded. Laxalt will never get another vote from me for anything. Oh, wait. I’ll be in fly over land next election. 🙂


How are you doing, Wolf? I hope you are resting. 😴

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m napping frequently, but finding that I’m working OK, too.

Got the jump on a lot of medical stuff today. I just started knocking things out with a new kind of vigor. Not sure what it is, but I like it!  😎 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And thank you for asking!!!

I’m going to try to be better about thanking people for things. In the past, my strategy was often to NOT thank people for certain strategic reasons (it’s a tactic to help people, believe it or not). However, almost not being able to say goodbye to my wife taught me that we don’t know when God will take us, so BE READY and DO IT NOW.


There is a tradition I started in my family that has amazingly even carried down to my teen-aged grandchildren. We end interactions, whether phone or in person, with “love you.”

It’s casual, almost a throwaway, but whatever happens, you will always know that the last words you spoke to them were those.


Ours has forever been ‘Luv ya Bye’ or LYB.😍


Ours is that sometimes, too!


Our family does that.
Emails too!  😃 


I like that!


Same as us. Our SIL thought it was weird. He’s still clearly uncomfortable doing it, but does it now as well.


It’ll grow on him, and he’ll be the better for it.


Donald Trump Defeats Niece Mary Trump in Lawsuit Over Inheritance

Donald Trump has defeated his niece Mary Trump in a lawsuit where she accused the former U.S. president and two of his siblings of defrauding her out of a multimillion-dollar inheritance.

In a decision on Monday, Justice Robert Reed of a New York state court in Manhattan said Mary Trump released her claims against her relatives in a 2001 settlement over the estate of Donald Trump’s father Fred Trump Sr.

Reed’s decision came the same day a federal judge in Manhattan handed Donald Trump another legal victory, dismissing a lawsuit by his former lawyer Michael Cohen over being returned to prison in alleged retaliation for writing a tell-all memoir.

Mary Trump’s case had its roots in the 1981 death of her father Fred Trump Jr., Donald Trump’s older brother, who left Mary, then 16, a profitable real estate portfolio.

Now a 57-year-old psychologist, Mary Trump claimed that her uncles Donald and Robert Trump and aunt Maryanne Trump Barry were supposed to protect her interests but instead “squeezed” her out of tens of millions of dollars.

She claimed she learned of the fraud only when the New York Times published a 2018 Pulitzer Prize-winning probe into Donald Trump’s finances, including his alleged efforts to avoid taxes.

But the judge said the settlement, which gave Mary Trump more than $2.7 million, “clearly and unambiguously” released the defendants from Mary Trump’s claims.

He also said the settlement was neither unfair, nor “a case where defendants’ alleged threats precluded the exercise of plaintiff’s free will.”

Maryanne Trump Barry is a retired federal judge. Robert Trump died in August 2020.

“Yesterday’s decision is both incorrect and disappointing,” Mary Trump’s lawyer Roberta Kaplan said in a statement. “Given the age of the defendants, not to mention the fact that one of them intends to announce today that he is running again for President, we intend to seek an expedited appeal.”

…In seeking a dismissal of Mary Trump’s lawsuit, Donald Trump accused his niece of trying to reopen the 2001 settlement to further her own political agenda and cash in on the family name.

Trump is separately suing Mary Trump, the Times and three reporters for more than $100 million. He claims they plotted to exploit his tax records to fulfill personal vendettas and desires for acclaim and money at his political expense.


Figures that Mary Trump is a Psychologist!
Adult children of alcoholics have poor track record for coping with their unmitigated pasts which in turn stymies their adulthoods.


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A face in the cloud. Who could it be?


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SD: “The need for control is a reaction to fear.”


He always says that, and I never think it’s true.

I never sense any fear at all from psychopaths, and I don’t think anybody else does either, so it always rings hollow.

I think it’s supposed to be comforting to think that the enemy is fearful, but if it’s not true, then it’s a false comfort.

The need for control is simply self-interest, and in the absence of the rule of law, it manifests as naked aggression.

No fear, just standard operating procedure. When they get their opponent (us) down, they do whatever occurs to them keep us down, and they do it reflexively. Some of it, maybe a lot of it, is just petty and mean because it’s ‘fun’ for them, but I’m sure a lot of it is basic psychological warfare against the U.S. population.

It has nothing to do with ‘fear’.

So-called “mean girls” don’t do horrible things to others out of ‘fear’, they do it to be mean, because it’s ‘fun’ for them. It’s no different for criminal political psychopaths.

The criminals are not afraid of anything. They have been in positions of power long enough to believe they are untouchable.

And we have been docile long enough to encourage them to think that way.


I mostly agree with you. I think, for example, in the case of a controlling spouse, they sometimes are afraid of being abandoned, etc. But this article bears out what you are saying, as well.

People who are controlling try to assert power over others and control situations. In some cases, a person may adopt controlling behaviors out of anxiety because they worry that things will go wrong if they do not maintain control. In other cases, it may be to assert dominance, which is a form of abuse.

I think that control in the political arena is out of a desire to dominate.

Gail Combs

After living with a psychopath I found that when things go wrong Psychopaths ALWAYS think it is someone else’s fault AND GET REVENGE.

Barb Meier

Some also try to goad you into defending yourself so they can physically hurt you and feel justified.

Gail Combs

Oh that too. Like a cat playing with a mouse.


Have always had the exact reaction to that phrase by Sundance, and puzzled why he thinks it is helpful or true.

The corruption and evil overwhelming America suggests just the opposite of fear. The other side (IMO) believes it is in total control and has nothing to fear. And in a purely worldly sense, they seem to be right.

Gail Combs


Why do you think they SELECTED Dementia Joe and OGRE Fetterman?
It is to RUB OUR NOSES INTO THE FACT WE DO NOT HAVE A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC what we actually have is an OLIGARCHY that is a vassal state to the ReichsWEF World Government.

The ‘NO STANDING’ in 60+ cases INCLUDING CANDIDATE Trump’s was to SHOW US HOW HELPLESS WE ARE. After all you have to be a citizen and NOT a serf to have standing.


Exactly. Someone posted something yesterday, where the author said (truthfully IMO) that Fettermen etc were NOT demoralization tactics, as was being widely stated, but a humiliation ritual.

We are NOT serfs, and we know what they are doing, and they hate that. In conformity with their childish view of life, they seek to rub our noses in their power. IMO, it would be absurdly laughable if not for the RL consequences.

Gail Combs

WE ARE SERFS… Free range serfs who give up 50% to 80% of the wealth we earn each year to an UNELECTED, UNACCOUNTABLE NON GOVERNMENT group FROM EUROPE — The Federal Reserve.

The fact we are not TOLD we are serfs does not mean that is not the reality.

Congratulations. You are a slave. 2004

….Movies and public school like to portray slaves as bound by chains and beaten with whips, creating a polarized image of slavery that can be pointed to with the comment, �You are not like that, therefore you are not a slave.� But history shows that slaves have been treated in all manner of ways, some more cruel than others, yet even with the most kind treatment, a slave remains a slave…..

Setting aside the stereotyped image of a slave as a bleeding chain-bound wretch, slaves throughout history are often hard to recognize. In some cases, such as the Medieval Serfs, they were held slaves to the rulers by religious belief, and did not see themselves as slaves even though they were treated as such. 

Free people can say �no�. Free people can refuse demands for their money, time, and children. Slaves cannot. There is no freedom without the freedom to say �no�. If someone demands that you do something and you can say �no� and refuse to do it, then you are a free human being. If you can be forced to do something or surrender something that you do not wish to, then you are a slave. No other test need be applied.

When you are forced to surrender half your life�s work to the government in ever-increasing taxes, then you are a slave. Throughout history, slaves were expected to perform the work needed for their own upkeep, then perform additional work for the rulers. For Roman slaves, the ratio of work-for-self versus work-for-rulers was about 50-50. The same ratio applied to Medieval Serfs, and even to the slaves of the American south. And, when you add up all the overt taxes, covert fees, tariffs, excises, plus the increased price you pay for products to pay the taxes of the companies that make those products, you will find that Americans are at that same �half-for-self� versus �half-for-rulers� ratio! Can you say �no� to the confiscation of half of your life? Can you even get the masters to maybe reduce the burden by a significant amount? No? Congratulations. You are a slave.

I added up all the taxes fees… back when I started my sale business since I had to save all my recp’ts anyway. I paid 64.5% AND that did not include the 151 taxes on a loaf of bread, over 1/2 the cost per President Reagan.


Good point!


^^^ Truth. Again – 1913.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A date which should damned well live in infamy.

Gail Combs

The date when we lost the USA to the Money Changers..


Fear of loosing control therefore have to reinforce their corruption their control and power over those they say they are weak but know they are not. That is were fear comes in.
Just my uneducated thoughts.

Gail Combs

Do Psychopaths Feel Fear?A look at a different kind of mind

Fear and Threat Detection

So how do we know they can feel fear at all? Well, it’s been assumed for decades that fearlessness is a key trait of Psychopathy, but it turns out that it has just kind of been assumed, and that the evidence of it isn’t as bedrock as first thought.

When scanning through the parts of the brain that process fear in both Psychopaths and non-Psychopaths there isn’t much difference at all. On the other hand, the parts of the brain used to detect threats is impaired, and as a result, their brains don’t know that they should be feeling fear at that point, or do incredibly rarely at the very most.

What does this mean? Well, 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗮 𝗶𝘀 𝗯𝗮𝘀𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗣𝘀𝘆𝗰𝗵𝗼𝗽𝗮𝘁𝗵𝘀 𝗰𝗮𝗻’𝘁 𝗮𝘂𝘁𝗼𝗺𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗲𝘁𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝗱𝗮𝗻𝗴𝗲𝗿, 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘀𝗼 𝗳𝗲𝗮𝗿 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻’𝘁 𝗿𝗲𝗴𝗶𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿…


One can realize fear but once realized accept and move one. Overcoming fear is grace grace .
I wonder some manifest fear in different ways.

Gail Combs

Psychopaths are just ‘hard wired differently’ I have had the misfortune to know at least three very well. THEY ARE VERY SCARY. (shudder0


I only knew one or maybe narcissistic hard to differentiate for a lay person that I am 🙂


Gail how is your husband? Have been thinking of the two of you.

Gail Combs

He is doing much better and now is walking without the cane mostly.

Working to get the blood moving in his lower legs worked.

One of the problems with getting older is you just do not want to move. Bread/wheat with bromine instead of iodine is a BIG problem too since it slows your thyroid.

Hubby is a big bread eater.

See Chiefio’s
Bromine, Iodine, Prostate and Breast Cancer


That is why I mill my own flour. My husband was a big bread eater but mostly stopped because of me. I wear Tommy Cooper compression leggings they help with leg problems. I have some for my back also it really works.


Actually our being docile is rooted in fear much of the time. Other times it is rooted in ignorance or outright stupidity.


Another Ivermectin testimonial.

I’ve been sick for about a week now, coughing, headaches, sore throat, sore right inner ear, clogged sinuses and constant drainage. My nose is raw. I think I’ve blown my nose about 500 times. It’s amazing the human body can hold so much fluid, or that we don’t run out.

I had thought that it was just a head cold, and would run its course after a few days, but I wasn’t getting any better after six days.

I had one course of Ivermectin tabs remaining. I had been saving them. I have plenty of the liquid kind, but I don’t want to break the seal until I have to.

So I took the Ivermectin early this afternoon. 5 x 3mg.

Went to bed for about 6 hours.

Didn’t really sleep. Got up and noticed I felt a little better. As the evening wore on, I noticed I wasn’t needing to blow my nose so much, and not coughing so much. My headache is gone. I can breathe through my nose fine right now, first time in days.

My fever seems to be gone. I took a hot shower, and noticed that I feel almost completely well again.

My throat is still a little sore, I am still coughing some, I know I’m not completely well yet but compared to how I’ve been feeling for the last week, I feel about 80% better.

That has been my experience with Ivermectin the few times (I think three times now) I have taken it.

Roughly 12 hours later, I am very noticeably better, with all symptoms gone or significantly reduced.

It’s like some kind of wonder drug.

Like last time, now I’m kicking myself for having waited so long to take it.

No idea if I had some strain of Covid, or some other creeping crud, but whatever it was, the Ivermectin went after it like a junkyard dog 😁


Fiancee seems to have brought home a bug from her sister’s place. I’m planning on doing a dose of Vitamin I tomorrow.


Is there Zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D, and quercetin on hand also?


That’s in my daily.


Actually, I had a touch of a scratchy throat last night and was going to tap into my Vitamin I, but the zinc, selenium, C, D, and quercitin seem to have knocked it out overnight, so I’ll save it for something else.

Gail Combs

Good call.

Save the big guns for when you really need it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you! Definitely appreciated. I’m gonna remember the vitamin I next time!


Me too, sooner rather than later next time.

And thank you, and everyone here, for bringing Vitamin I to everyone’s attention, and the articles, and studies, etc.

It’s hard to believe it has been around so long, and I never heard of it until after china virus.

My whole life, I’ve gone to doctors only to be told “it’s a virus, you’ll just have to let it run its course”. That’s when I usually demand antibiotics, and they tell me antibiotics don’t work on viruses, which I took to mean that Doc’s diagnosis was consistently wrong, because the antibiotics always worked.


But Ivermectin *IS* an anti-viral, and when we’re not being price-gouged due to government trying to prevent us from getting it, it should only cost about a penny a tablet.

Why should anyone suffer with a (supposed) virus, of any kind, for a week or more, if you can take a ridiculously cheap and extremely effective treatment, and feel much better in just 12 to 18 hours?

It should be an OTC remedy like aspirin (and in many countries it is, or was, before covid).

Imagine how many doctors visits could be avoided annually, worldwide, if everyone had a bottle of Ivermectin in their medicine cabinet. Imagine how many sick days from work could be avoided.

Imagine how much $$$ doctors would be deprived of, and Big Pharma…


When my wife and I had very, very bad covid last Dec-Jan, we took the I as prescribed, which was day one a certain amount, and day three a certain amount. We concluded from our experience that next time we would take I immediately and daily. That is what we did in the most recent case, and it appears to have worked.


I have fought the viruses that come along (flu, cv19, etc.) with a combination of HCQ, Quercetin, D3, Zinc, C, green tea, lemon and honey.

So far, so good – feel bad a couple of days – then the virus and its effects are gone.

Gail Combs

I do the same but mostly thru food although I supplement at times.
I brew VERY STRONG green tea LINK and LINK
I modified the instructions by using a Pyrex quart measuring cup. I Preheat the glass with very hot water while my kettle is boiling and pour out the tap water, add a heaping teaspoon of green tea leaves and boiling water and cap with a preheated saucer. then it sits and steeps for AT LEAST 10 minutes (usually a 1/2 hr) and stored in a glass jar in the frigde

This get added to my cup of tea every morning to cool the tea down to drinking temp. A quart lasts about 3 -4 days.

Some of the most commonly consumed quercetin foods include apples, onions, green peppers, red leaf lettuce, asparagus, broccoli, grapes, beans and tomatoes. Black and green teas are also good sources.

Foods Rich in Flavonols









Red wine

Green tea

By going the food route I get additional goodies. I already am taking a hand full of supplements.  🙄 


I get a lot through food , tea and supplement with some vitamins when needed.

Gail Combs

Aside from that one ‘Asthma Attack’ which seems to have been Long Covid, I have not had many major problems except for the Blood Pressure. Therefore I see no reason for vitamin I or quercetin on a routine basis.


I hear Dr Weil say ” if one takes everything for prevention what does one take when one gets sick?”
For me it works when I feel under weather to take vitamins more regular. Right now I take it couple of times a week. Is like everything in moderation.

Gail Combs

I take a few things regularly like Glucosamine + Chondroitin but those are the amino acids for rebuilding joint cartilage so not exactly a ‘medicine’. The tea is my morning Cuppa.Other stuff I take when I think of it or the body tells me to. (Like potassium)


Team Flavanol!!! 😁
(Except for the tea, which is why God made supplements 😜 🤸‍♀️ )

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Gail Combs

I figure Green tea and lots of beef and red onions is why Ralph Baris Covid didn’t feel like more than a bad cold back in the fall of 2018. Omicron lasted 36 hours and I have been fine since I got Moxidectrin and Goat spit.


Goat spit, LOL, YUCK!!!

Gail Combs

I was holding my 3 big buck goats so Hubby could squirt Moxidectin down their throats.

They were NOT HAPPY and squirmed and drooled all over my hands. Since I was very short of breath at the time I did the big guys first and therefore had wormer all over my hands for hours as we caught wormed, inoculated and hoof trimmed 30 goats.

My ‘Asthma’ quit shortly after that. I had had it 24/7 for a year and a half before that.

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Good regimen also 🙂


Yup. Vitamin I every Saturday after breakfast. Additional Vitamin I at the ready, if the need arises. Along with HCQ…

Yea, I know, “taking less meds, is (generally) wiser”.
Vitamin I reportedly has so many benefits, minuscule if any downside.Until Covidiocy, vitamin I, unknown to me, was touted as a miracle drug of sorts.Taking vitamin I is a no brainer, in my mind.
Will consider opposing views and information on vitamin I, so long as it is not rooted in CDC, FDA, NIH, Big Pharma, AMA, health care systems, Pravda News…
^^^ Them assholes are lying whores for money and power.

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Same with us. 👍🏻 Although with the holidays around the corner I may go back to twice a week like I used to do. We’ve stocked up through 2024 with both HCQ and I.


Since it is anti-cancer, and anti-parasitic, I recommend at minimum a course of it every six months. That’s what I do.





Gail Combs

I am thinking of getting it since my Blood Pressure problem looks like “…Primary aldosteronism (also called Conn’s syndrome) is a rare condition caused by overproduction of the hormone aldosterone that controls sodium and potassium in the blood….”

Except it is not all that rare. LINK

…As mentioned, 4-10% of all patients with high blood pressure have underlying primary hyperaldosteronism that nobody has figure out. It is estimated that 75 million Americans suffer from hypertension. This means that there are about 3-7.5 million Americans with primary hyperaldosteronism. Only a fraction of all these — less than one tenth of one percent — are being diagnosed, and an even smaller fraction are being offered surgery. With minimally invasive adrenalectomy, the vast majority of these patients can be cured in less than 30-40 minutes.

Surgical removal of the adrenal tumor may save you from developing future strokes, heart attacks, and arrhythmias (for instance, atrial fibrillation), and premature death. This is why people with high blood pressure need to be screened for this disease….

Gregg Phillips got rid of his cancer with another wormer — Safeguard or  “Fenbendazole”

I have a pony with Cushings, “…Cushing’s Disease is caused by a tumor of the pituitary gland, which is the small gland at the base of the brain which regulates the rest of the horse’s endocrine systems….”

So I am going to worm her with Ivermectin and then start her on a 3 days on 4 days off of Safeguard for the winter. If she sheds out completely next spring I will let the Vet know what I did.


I know of a couple of friends of friends who have cleared cancer with FenBen.

Gail Combs

OH, good to know. Now I just have to find a way to get a prescription. After I have the blood test for ‘overproduction of the hormone aldosterone’

I haven’t been to a doctor for a couple decades so I do not have a ‘primary care doctor’


Yes, used them. Fast, no prescription needed, but as you say expensive. Bought it for wife’s trip to Korea. Still have over half left. Did the 50 as I know nothing about “Germ Proof”.


Well, many people are using the animal formulation I think.

Gail Combs

Actually it is the Fenbendazole I am after. Ivermectin Online may carry it also.

No Rx required.


They might!


Gail, fenben does not require a prescription…I bought mine at
testing data available. This is what they manufacture.

Gail Combs


I really do not want to go thru all the drawing blood and testing crap. I HATE needles… and doctors.


Gail, You are most welcome. I too was delighted to find these folks! Yeah, local MDs are kinda on my sh!tlist too. And I am totally freaked put ab needles.


After 14 years of just soldiering through needles for blood tests (and having dental crowns put on without anesthetic because I hate needles), I finally got my doc to prescribe something — alprazolam (generic Xanax) 0.5 mg. I take it about 40 minutes prior to the needle and slam about 64 ounces of water to pump up the veins (and remove any excuse for doing it twice), and it is much more tolerable.

Problem is, the stuff has a half-life of about 10 hours and you’re not really safe to drive until the next day. They can’t prescribe anything that clears faster because the idiot Feds think that makes it recreational.

Be sure to pre-clear it with the lab so that it doesn’t dork the tests they are doing.


I order my own blood tests online. These 2 sites are the cheapest. They have sales. I always search for coupons which are usually available for another 5-10% off.

Order and pay for test online. Go to labcorp or quest for blood draw. Online results usually w/in 24 hours.

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Gail Combs


For a lot of stuff, you don’t really need a doctor and the expense,headache and exposure to disease that goes with a visit.


On many things, I am my own medical practitioner. I know more than the docs. SAD.


My wife and I had similar symptoms recently, and they were pretty severe on the second and third day, but we took the paste ivermectin every day, full dose, for five days, and the symptoms vastly improved to the level of a small annoyance.


Did you manage to get an Rx for capsules/pills – or take the paste?


Yes, I contacted one of the many doctors listed on the FLCCC website, and she prescribed the pills.

I also have the liquid type of Vitamin I, that I found online before it disappeared everywhere last year.

May be expensive (?) for some, BUT requires NO Rx.
No Doc, NO script required.


It does seem expensive at first ($190 for 100 12mg tablets), but it’s actually cheaper than what I paid for the consult ($155) + picking up the Ivermectin at the pharmacy ($80), and I received significantly less Ivermectin (300mg total).

The doctor (actually a nurse practitioner, IIRC) who prescribed it said to make sure I asked for the discount at my pharmacy, because she had many clients who were being overcharged by the pharmacies.

She also said many pharmacies were refusing to dispense it, and if I ran into that problem, she would direct me to an apothecary where they would make the tablets themselves. I don’t think I had heard the term “apothecary” since I was a kid, from playing Dungeons & Dragons 😁

When I went to pick up the prescription, and the cost was around $80, I asked for the discounted price.

And found out that WAS the discounted price, it was normally $160.

I think I received 5 boxes of 20 tabs each, with each tab being 3mg. So 300mg total.

I was supposed to take 5 tablets (15mg total) if I got sick, and then another 5 tabs 48 hours later, and then 5 tabs per week after that.

I did it that way the first time, but then realized I was going through my supply too fast. In practice, I think one treatment is actually enough to get better, but I’ll take at least the second treatment as well (48 hours later) to be safe(r).

My original cost was $155 (consult) + $80 (Iver) = $235 for 300mg, which works out to 10 treatments (15mg the first day and 15mg two days later) or $23.50 per illness.

The website linked above has it for $190 for 100 x 12mg tablets = 1,200mg total, or 40 complete treatments (15mg the first day and 15mg two days later) at a cost of just $4.75 per illness.

Plus $5 for a pill cutter 😉

I could save a small village with that amount!

Hopefully it works against nerve gas too, which is probably what our government will release for this year’s Christmas gift to the world.


Scott, I have never read the efficacious dosage of IVM to be above 4mg for prophylaxis or 6mg for Tx. I just assumed that 12 mg tablets were good for 2 doses. So, I operated on the assumption that 100 12mg tablets equaled 200 doses; at a buck apiece that’s a pretty good deal. And I ordered online, w no Rx, and picked the shipment up on my front porch ab 5 days later. That’s a difficult process to beat imo.
Highly recommended.
I worked in a Pharmacy for 25 yrs, and the old term Apothecary has sadly, yes, fallen into disuse. A friend moonlights at a Compounding Rx, the new term, but the business sign says xxxxApothecary…3rd gen business.
Dr Z once said if he was exposed to Smallpox, he would take IVM. Pretty impressive stuff.
Because you are you, I imagine you have read ab IVM’s mechanism of action…and it seems to me that this mechanism is no respecter of persons so-to-speak, rather it works on alien invaders. It may just work against nerve gas!!!


“Scott, I have never read the efficacious dosage of IVM to be above 4mg for prophylaxis or 6mg for Tx.”


I should maybe look into that then… maybe that’s why it works so well for me when I get sick… I may be nearly tripling the standard dosage 😲😂

The nurse practitioner for the phone consult had me get a scale and weigh myself, and her prescription was based on x-number of mg per pound of body weight.

The box says:

Ivermectin Tablets USP
20 Tablets
(2 Foil Strips of 10 tablets each)

The attached prescription label says:
IC Ivermectin 3 MG Tablet
Take 5.5 tablets by mouth on day one, repeat 5.5 tabs in 48 hours, then 5.5 tabs weekly.

The first few times I chopped a tab in half to get to the 5.5 tabs, but after that, I just took 5 whole tablets and didn’t worry about the extra half a tablet.

And I notice that the quantity says “20 of 80”, so I must have originally had four boxes, not five.

I’m not a giant, so if 6mg is standard for treatment, it could be that 15mg is a little on the high side!


Scott…doesn’t seem to matter ab ‘overdosing’…in Africa, where IVM is routine, and incidentally mostly immune to covid, haha, I do not imagine doses are carefully titrated in every case…and records of usage display no side effects wrt dosage strength. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I have many times used (in paste form) ab the equivalent of 2mg which knocks out a cold almost immediately. I weigh ab 115 #. I am rather hording my tablets, as I fully expect such easy routes of acquisition to be not so reliable come the coming darkness and difficulty. Others may benefit greatly from my stores,
I bought a bunch of paste before the $$$ increased due to demand. This is what I use, as many are not as indifferent as I wrt the paste.
Methinks any IVM we can acquire will be gold by the time the Winter of ’23 arrives.


I was able to order from the link you and barkerjim have posted here (thank you!).

For anyone who may not have used, it’s a very basic website.

I might have been hesitant to go through with the transaction if others here had not used it successfully before. The ad-copy almost sounds like they’re trying too hard 😉

One interesting claim mentioned on the website is that all Ivermectin sold via pharmacies in the U.S. comes from china.

The Ivermectin sold through is imported from India.

I did run into a problem after carefully entering the requested information necessary to then receive an invoice by email, my browser wouldn’t allow anything to happen after hitting the ‘place order’ button (I think it’s actually a ‘submit’ button, but I pretty much hate the word ‘submit’, it’s a personal hang-up 😂 )

The instructions said to not try to resubmit, and my browser was just hanging there doing nothing.

So I let it go for about 5 minutes, came back to check, and it was still doing nothing, not advancing to the next page as it was supposed to.

So I opened a different browser, went back to the order page, filled in the info again, and used a different email address.

I chose 2-day shipping for $12 (I think they had overnight for $45), clicked the order button, and it went right through.

Just a few minutes later I received the invoice via email.

Paid the invoice, and 4-1/2 hours later, I received a shipping notification email with tracking number, delivery should be on Saturday 👍

That’s about two days past the recommended 48 hours between the 1st and 2nd dose, but a lot faster than I could have expected from any other source.

Still haven’t heard back from the nurse practitioner who prescribed it for me last time, hopefully she’s okay.

So for anyone who might decide to use the website, the website itself does not appear very modern or ‘polished’, but the process was smooth (once I changed browsers) and straightforward.

They processed the order very fast. I should have it in two days from the time the order was placed.

Overnight shipping is available if it’s an emergency, and based on how fast my order was processed, it seems you could reasonably expect to get in one day (extra cost for overnight shipping) if needed, all with no prescription 👍

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One reason to prefer the liquid form is that it’s easier to compensate by weight — and, yes, the dosage should be calculated by weight. Amusingly, the oral dose per kilogram for humans is the same as the injection dose per kilogram for cattle. That said, the margin of safety for ivermectin is phenomenal — you have to get really stupid (e.g. take a horse-sized dose) to be at serious risk. OTOH, certain breeds of dogs (and bloodlines of mutts) can be POISONED AND DIE from small amounts of ivermectin — they lack the right chemistry to get it out. These are mostly herding dogs.


Such good news to hear that you feel better!
Might want to ** add to ** the ** inventory ** of the “some kind of wonder drug”, along with Zinc, vitamin C, vitamin D, quercetin — one thinks it may well be a long, tough winter.

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Thank you, RDS!

I contacted my FLCCC approved prescriber for tablets yesterday, but I haven’t heard back from her yet.

I take Vitamin C, Vitamin D3 (usually 3,000 IU per day, upped to 5,000 IU recently) and a regular multivitamin daily. 👍

I started taking the Quercetin again today, and I have Zinc to go with it.


Scott, requires no Rx.


Thank you Piper 👍


Glad to hear you are on the mend with the help of Vit I. Trust you have a source for restocking.


Thank you!

I am working on restock, expect (hopefully) to hear back today 👍


Appreciate your sharing and great you are rebounding quickly.

Testimonials for Vitamin I are quite common. Agree, EARLY use of Vitamin I shortens and lessons the indications of whatever bug we may have contracted.

Odd as hell AND quite telling, we never read the downside to Vitamin I. (Yea, we know why.)


Thank you Kalbo!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The downside is some leftist shitbag might actually take it when he needs it.


Nah. Leftist shitbag watches fake news AND thinks vitamin I is for horses. 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Sure, that’s the beauty of it. Most of them will never take it even when they need it!

It’s just that, there’s always a chance some shitbag will actually take it; that’s the downside.

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“It’s just that, there’s always a chance some shitbag will actually take it; that’s the downside.”


Yeah, but if that happens, none of the other &^%$bags will believe his report either… and then he’ll be like us, living the dream… 😂🤣😂


I am happy you feel better 😉
Yes Ivermectin does it for me also and clears any upper respiratory congestion, allergies and headache in two days for me.


Thank you Singingsoul!

Me too. Six days of feeling miserable starts to wear me out. Suddenly feeling almost normal again is almost a shock 😂

When I took the Ivermectin tabs, my clogged sinuses went away almost immediately, as in between the time I took it and the time I walked upstairs to bed.

The stuffy nose came back again for a while (but has largely gone away now), but after days of being clogged and having a runny nose, to have it all go away, even briefly, right after taking the tablets, was kind of amazing.


I am happy it worked for you. Works for me also my sinuses clear up within two days . I understand fully how you feel and what you went through. Something is going around maybe just the normal cold or flu.

Gail Combs

Oh Joy…

Right now I am dealing with a stye that has my whole eye lid swollen. It had resolved until I was in a very very dusty enviornment and it started again. So I am using it as an excuse to take a break and hang around the Q Tree.  🤓 


Sorry to hear that but I am happy to see you hear 🙂


I’m sure you already know this, but….it’s typically one eyelash follicle that is infected. Wet and warm enough to open the pores, then messing with the eyelash may begin relief. In some cases, plucking the eyelash hair can be beneficial.


Vitamin I IS a miracle drug, on par with aspirin and penicillin.

Which is WHY they don’t want us to have it.

Gail Combs

On cleaning-up the voter rolls…


….We currently run almost 2 billion records for state election records alone. 

We witnessed every state’s voter rolls are abhorrent – fake addresses, phantom voters – who vote in every election even though they live in a U.P.S. box.

There are registered voters older than George Washington still voting. There are 106 year old frat boys in a frat house still voting.

When we added Federal Election Commission data, we found political candidates in 2022 receiving donations in 2038 – time travel is alive!

The state of the most important public data, on which we choose our leaders is appalling.

Our objective is to make all that public data transparent, able to be reconciled, on every citizen’s phone.

We currently run over a dozen states’ voter rolls and we are moving to run all 50 states by 2024. In 2022, the incredible work of the Florida, Ohio and Wisconsin team paid off. Now for the rest of the states!

This web site reports much of our journey….

Sarbanes-Oxley For Voter Rolls – It’s About Time

Numbers mean things.

Public companies use numbers to convey the health, growth, promise of their firm. If their numbers are fake, don’t reconcile, or have hidden data not conveyed to the investors, CEOs and CFOs can and do go to prison. Why should election rolls meet a lesser standard? Why do election rolls fail to reconcile internally? Why do election rolls have hundreds to thousands of dead people or voters whose address is a church or RV park? Why are citizens forced to pay $12,500, $30,000 or $5,000 for a single copy of their election roll? Why do most states, likely all, have hundreds to thousands of “voters” on their rolls born on the same day before World War I? Why do some states allow voters to use a prison as their mailing address? Voter rolls must be given the same scrutiny as public companies’ financial statements. They are not – it’s not even close. Sarbanes Oxley demands CEOs and CFOs review all financial reports to make certain they do not contain any misrepresentation. Every statement must be “fairly presented.” No scammy stuff; no sleight of hand.

Secretaries of state, election officials are not required to do any of these things.

So guess what happens?…..




….Let’s not leave Ohio out of our chat here. They are more into U. S. Postal Boxes as addresses up there. Over 400 registered voters appear to live in boxes at the local Post Office.

One was a close call when we zoomed in on it – could not tell if the guy lived in the Post Office or the Meijer Pharmacy next door.

We found over 600 registered voters at a local university. We sorted them by age, which we now do for all college “students,” and guess what? Oldest was 103 and next 260 were 25 and up. In Pittsburgh we found the same pattern – a college with 900 registered voters, oldest is 105 and most of the 900 were over 25, many much older.

In state after state we find 25 people living in an 1100 square foot house. That’s pretty hard particularly if any of them has children or pets. But in every state we have seen, they appear – in droves…..




Let’s not leave out our Texas friends. In one of its largest cities, there are thousands of ballots that were changed after they were cast. It’s not a rumor. It’s not a conspiracy theory – we have the data. We use a new technology called Fractal Programming. It runs 1,000 to a million times faster than any current computer technology. That’s why we can run every state in the country, all 3,200 counties, on a computer you can fit on your dining room table. We don’t just run the voter rolls for the major swing states, we run multiple snapshots of each. In one state, we do not look at one voter roll, we look at 31 voter rolls – each from a different date. For North Carolina or Georgia, think 40 or 50 snapshots. We cross compare every voter roll, from a different date, against every other and we find interesting stuff – like the guy in Texas who cast an in-person ballot later replaced by a mail in ballot. No current technology can find that.




These people look very promising.

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Gail Combs

I am going to add the page listing papers:

Those papers are VERY interesting.


“….We currently run almost 2 billion records for state election records alone.”


I don’t think we even have 2 billion people in America.

Not voting age, anyway.

Gail Combs

They are looking at multiple records.

….We use a new technology called Fractal Programming. It runs 1,000 to a million times faster than any current computer technology. That’s why we can run every state in the country, all 3,200 counties, on a computer you can fit on your dining room table.

We don’t just run the voter rolls for the major swing states, we run multiple snapshots of each. In one state, we do not look at one voter roll, we look at 31 voter rolls – each from a different date. For North Carolina or Georgia, think 40 or 50 snapshots. We cross compare every voter roll, from a different date, against every other and we find interesting stuff – like the guy in Texas who cast an in-person ballot later replaced by a mail in ballot.

No current technology can find that…..

In one state, we learned thousands of voters were on the rolls in December, in inactive status, their status was changed to active in November, they voted and their status was then changed back to inactive….

As I said their papers are interesting.


“The voter rolls need to be cleansed line by line, and the fact that the state governments won’t do it is pretty contemptable.”


They’re not incentivized to do it.

If they were properly incentivized, we would have tidiest and most spotless voter rolls in the whole wide world.

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Gail Combs

The Republican National Committee Consent Decree of 1982 lasted until 2017. This allowed the building of the voter fraud infrastructure Omega4America is talking about. It also allowed the RINOs to over take the actual America First Republicans and facilitated the building of the Uni-Party.
Wanna get elected? You have to play ball with the Demon-Rats. PERIOD They had COMPLETE CONTROL.

After 35 years, the consent decree that prohibited the Republican National Committee (RNC) from engaging in ballot security activities wasterminated by a federal judge. RNLA Chair John Ryder, former General Counsel to the RNC, stated:

Yesterday, the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey ended the consent decree that had banned the Republican National Committee from engaging in activities to ensure that elections are open, fair, and honest since 1982. Despite years and much money spent searching for evidence of Republican voter suppression, the Democratic National Committee could not present evidence to the court sufficient for the consent decree to remain in effect. We applaud the fact that the RNC may now, on the same, lawful, non-discriminatory basis as other political organizations, ensure that every eligible voter is able to vote and that the votes of ineligible voters are not counted.

In November, the judge noted that the DNC had not presented any evidence of voter suppression, let alone any by the RNC:

“As far as what’s before this court, you’ve presented me with no evidence of actual voter suppression efforts on the day of the election, much less tying it to the RNC,” [Judge John Michael] Vazquez told DNC attorneys.

The judge had kept the consent decree in force after a December 1 sunset date to give the DNC an additional opportunity to present evidence of voter suppression or violation of the decree’s provisions by the RNC. It failed to do so:



The consent decree is exclusively the responsibility of the attorney(s) representing the RNC. Ergo, all the negative effects of the consent decree also exclusively belong to said attorneys.

I think it is likely they were bribed in addition to being paid for sodomizing representing the RNC. In any event, none of the RNC chairpersons saw fit to investigate why the decree was entered. Maybe the head honchos of the RNC were bribed as well.

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Gail Combs

D Pat,

Groups are doing that. These people are helping by IDing the FIRST PLACE TO LOOK FOR CHEATING.

As far as I am concerned, Voting should be like a drivers licence — YOU HAVE TO RENEW REGISTRATION PERIODICALLY. I have to renew my DL every 5 years, why shouldn’t people have to renew their voter registration at the same time? WITH A BIRTH CERTIFICATE…

3. What Are We Trying To Discover? While we use the term “fraud” as a shortcut where no names are attached, we prefer the term anomaly. Our analysis finds lots of crazy anomaly data in voter rolls. That does not make it fraud. It does make it interesting. There is a lack of transparency for election data. We want to bring that transparency to the masses, Democrats and Republicans. Voters do not want election fraud, malicious organizations do. We want to provide a central location to view the aggregate of election data….

Nor are we doing forensic analysis of machines although we can read source code down to the binary level as well as anyone else. We are not evaluating any derivative data. Edison data which has been through several revisions is of no value to us. Most of the fraud stories one hears can be substantiated by looking at election rolls and cast ballot public information. We are looking at voter rolls of registered voters going back as far as they exist in digital format.

We are also looking at reported ballots, absentee, mail-in. We believe election fraud did not begin in 2020. It likely happened in several previous even numbered-years and may have impacted other elections. If that data is available, we want it – as far back as such data exists in digital form. All the election data since George Washington, in every state, if it were digitally available would be a modest sized database for our technology. We regularly run applications transacting trillions of records in seconds on machines smaller than a box of Kleenex.

We developed sophisticated techniques to crawl public websites such as county property tax records and painlessly bring in that data for cross search. One would be surprised how many people claim to live in a commercial building.

4. What Happens When We Identify Anomalies?

This is where our background in insurance fraud comes in. Industrial, organized fraud has an infrastructure that takes years to build. 

In our insurance days, that consisted of doctors, attorneys, chiropractors and runners finding each other, organizing fraud rings, getting cars, creating accidents and making the same claim for multiple drivers. They created a network infrastructure. When we identified one part of the ring, a doctor for instance, the rest of the ring was pretty often identified as well. Those names became toxic for insurers even if they were not prosecuted. They were pretty much shut down.

Election fraud has some of the same characteristics…

  :wpds_arrow:  𝗜𝗻 𝗔𝘂𝗴𝘂𝘀𝘁, 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟭 𝘄𝗲 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗱𝘂𝗰𝗲𝗱 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝗮 𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗴𝗲 𝗺𝗶𝗱𝘄𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻 𝘀𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗼𝗳 𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗿 𝟱𝟬𝟬 𝘃𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗰𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗶𝗻 𝗮 𝘀𝗶𝗻𝗴𝗹𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗲 𝗣.𝗢. 𝗕𝗼𝘅. 𝗧𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗲𝗻𝗮𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗮 𝗹𝗼𝗰𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺 𝘁𝗼 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗹𝗹𝗲𝗻𝗴𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝗻𝗮𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗶𝗿 𝗿𝗲𝗺𝗼𝘃𝗮𝗹 𝗳𝗿𝗼𝗺 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘃𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗿𝗼𝗹𝗹𝘀. 𝗪𝗲 𝗳𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝗰𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗺𝗲𝗱 𝘁𝗼 𝗹𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝘁 𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗱𝗱𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀, 𝗴𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗹𝗶𝘀𝘁𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝗮 𝗴𝗿𝗼𝘂𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗲𝗮𝗺 𝘄𝗵𝗼 𝘄𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗱𝗼𝗼𝗿-𝘁𝗼-𝗱𝗼𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝗲𝗲 𝗶𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲. 𝗧𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗼𝗳𝘁𝗲𝗻 𝘄𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗽𝗵𝗮𝗻𝘁𝗼𝗺 𝘃𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀.

𝗧𝗵𝗶𝘀 𝗶𝘀 𝗵𝗼𝘄 𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗼𝗿𝗸𝘀. 𝗔𝘀 𝗲𝗮𝗰𝗵 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘀𝗲 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗯𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗽𝘂𝗯𝗹𝗶𝗰, 𝗻𝗮𝗺𝗲, 𝗮𝗱𝗱𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘀, 𝗮 𝗯𝘂𝗶𝗹𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴, 𝗮 𝘀𝗽𝗲𝗰𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰 𝗯𝗶𝗿𝘁𝗵𝗱𝗮𝘆 𝘂𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗯𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘀𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘀, 𝗶𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗮 𝗱𝗲𝗮𝗱 𝗿𝗲𝘀𝗼𝘂𝗿𝗰𝗲 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘀𝗲 𝗼𝗿𝗴𝗮𝗻𝗶𝘇𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗳𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗱.

𝗜𝘁 𝗯𝗲𝗰𝗼𝗺𝗲𝘀 𝗮 𝗡𝗼-𝗙𝗹𝘆 𝗟𝗶𝘀𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗼𝘅𝗶𝗰 𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗯𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀.

𝗜𝘁 𝘁𝗼𝗼𝗸 𝗱𝗲𝗰𝗮𝗱𝗲𝘀 𝗳𝗼𝗿 𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗺𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗰𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗶𝗮𝗹𝘀, 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗱𝗶𝗱𝗮𝘁𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗼𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿 𝗰𝗿𝗶𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗮𝗹𝘀 𝘁𝗼 𝘀𝗮𝗹𝘁 𝘃𝗼𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗿𝗼𝗹𝗹𝘀 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘀𝗲 𝗮𝘁𝘁𝗿𝗶𝗯𝘂𝘁𝗲𝘀. 𝗜𝗱𝗲𝗻𝘁𝗶𝗳𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺, 𝗺𝗮𝗸𝗲 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗺 𝗿𝗮𝗱𝗶𝗼𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗰𝗮𝗻𝗻𝗼𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝘁 𝘀𝗰𝗮𝗹𝗲 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗮𝗹𝗹 𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗱𝘀 𝗼𝗳 𝗮𝗹𝗮𝗿𝗺𝘀 𝗴𝗼𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝗳𝗳….


They cleaned voter rolls out where I live and County is red.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Can’t. Stop. Laughing!!!  😂 


That was my first reaction. 😂 


Triggered.  😩  😰  😱  😭  😠  😳  😡 .. BOOM!! (insert mushroom cloud emoji)  😂 
 😂  😂 
and she’s probably a young victim of brandons fake GOTV college loan forgiveness. A woke walking time bomb.  😆 

Gaslit by the left , working at a leftist only nowhere coffee shop chain as a cashier and set to blow  😂 
 💣  🌋  🎇   😅  😂 





“This woman needs more in her life.”


She needs another computer, that’s for sure 👍


Okay, that was laugh-out-loud. Thanks!




One made to military battlefield standards of toughness.


Jo-Jo needs a triple Espresso, stat. 🙂

  • Not to mention the freak flag and guessing a commie sickle.

Emotional basket case

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Artemis finally launched.

It’s unmanned, but it’s our first big step back to the Moon.

If only B*d*n doesn’t fuck it up.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent!  🍻 



Sadly, however, I suspect that when NASA finally gets something landed on the moon again, they’ll have to ask for clearance from SpaceX Lunar Control.


“It’s unmanned, but it’s our first big step back to the Moon.”


It might not be possible for Man to get back to the Moon.

Technology and general incompetence may both be too advanced.


Thanks for cleaning up B*d*n. We know B*d*n, will likely fuck it up.   :wpds_mrgreen: 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, I looked at that sentence, realized it was full of profanity, and cleaned the worst of it up.

Last edited 10 months ago by SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Don’t tell him and it’s safe.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This was a good catch. I have my own theories on this. What are yours?


I think Trump will basically ignore the abortion issue, and honestly, I think he is correct to do so.

I am working on a post with more thoughts, which I think I will fold this into.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great post!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

(If it’s the one I’m thinking!  😃  )




Likely not the post birth abortion, that one is rather extreme and should never have been trumpeted by the left.

Gail Combs

 post birth abortion = INFANTICIDE, an ugly word and we should use it!

Time to STOP allowing the Left to manipulate us via language.


My thoughts are, SCOTUS discission left the choice to individual states to determine. Those who believe abortion is a right can move to states that will allow it, OR work to legalize it those states where it’s currently illegal.
I don’t believe it will affect those who are pro life living anywhere else.
They may not agree with the left, but will follow their hearts, have children and are otherwise unaffected.
I agree with Aubergine, Trump will leave the issue alone, and most on the conservative right will take SCOTUS decision as a win.. an advance for Pro life and let a sleeping dog alone.

Only the progressive Neo-socialists would waste time $$ and potential votes by making it a election campaign issue. But that’s their leadership problem.
It’s Their issue. SCOTUS spoke and their wound is fresh.
No need for victory laps on divisive issues, the goal is to get everyone pulling America forward, in a logical common sense direction ,where everybody wins.
Not to rub noses in open/old wounds. People and individual States need time to adapt and work solutions, post SCOTUS decision.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Those who believe abortion is a right can move to states that will allow it, OR work to legalize it those states where it’s currently illegal.

This can work with one additional stipulation: States should not be able to ban travel to another state (or helping others to do so), for the purpose of procuring an abortion. We don’t allow them to ban traveling somewhere just to be able to do what’s legal there but not at home (e.g., gamble, shoot a machine gun).


California does. 😉

Gail Combs

For the Right it should be a DEAD issue since it is a TRAP. Fight it on the local level.

Heck some of the counties in NC were DRY when I moved down here.


AGREED! Great thoughts!


Any bets on how long before Mrs. Fetterman takes over for her husband?


Oh please.

That’s gotta be his daughter, by another species.

Or maybe his granddaughter.

Brave and Free

Or just his handler..


^^^ THIS. Handler in so many ways.


Mail order?


🤣 🤣 🤣




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