Dear KAG: 20240730 Open Thread

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John, Bobby … and Marilyn

The Battlespace

Badlands News Brief – July 29, 2024

Calm down, Democrats: Trump did not tell Christians he’ll be a dictator

Olympics’ Last Supper debacle was latest effort to denigrate Western culture

For some reason, “they” think it must be destroyed.

Even When Blaspheming At The Olympics, Queer Activists Reinforce Christianity

Speaker Johnson Appoints “Top Men” to Investigate Trump Assassination Attempt

Nice Cover Story – Biden Holds Meeting of Ballot Coordinators During AF1 Flight to Austin

Tweets…X-Files, uh, posts, whatever

I am assured that the captain on any flight is final word on this sort of thing.

I know lots of people who are going to be really PO’d about this.

Oopsie.

If you haven’t read it:

He’s a modern day Sts. Athanasius and Ignatius of Antioch rolled into one.

Eff Pfizer and whatever they rode in on.

Pray for Venezuela. Those people are in real trouble.

Should I have put this in the satire section??????????

Best cheddar cheese ever. Well…other than the artisan stuff.

Meme Zone

So many of my music mates are in this boat.

To be fair, the athletes have worked long and hard for their chance at these games, and they had NOTHING to do with the opening ceremonies other than showing up. Our guys and girls are doing well.

It’s like they were born to do this.

All of our dogs who did this were accommodated weather permitting.

So, 15 years ago or so ( I don’t remember exactly what year), one of the Interstates was being dug up and replaced here. It happens to run along the south side of the zoo where the big cats and the savannah animals are. The night the state road people blew up an overpass or two, they had classical music on the zoo’s sound system at full blast to keep the animals from stampeding, Animals do love music.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

Of course, this does not mean committing felonies, but standing up to the forces that want to tear this nation – and humanity apart. The very people XVII told us will be destroyed by the time this movie comes to an end are currently roaming the halls of power…supposedly. It’s a sickening sight.

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MATTHEW 13:36-43

36Then he left the crowds and went into the house. And his disciples came to him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds of the field.” 37He answered, “He who sows the good seed is the Son of man; 38the field is the world, and the good seed means the sons of the kingdom; the weeds are the sons of the evil one, 39and the enemy who sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the close of the age, and the reapers are angels. 40Just as the weeds are gathered and burned with fire, so will it be at the close of the age. 41The Son of man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all evildoers, 42and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth. 43Then the righteous will shine like the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears, let him hear.

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Anonymous ID: hHkrVD7x No.148156632 
Nov 5 2017 20:06:36 (EST)

Anonymous ID: pqW40Wgk No.148156518 
Nov 5 2017 20:05:48 (EST)

>>148154137

St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

>>148156518
Amen brother.
Q

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

Satire

After this year’s outcry, I doubt it.

Humor me. JP doesn’t have a new one up yet.


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pgroup2

22 minutes past posting and this is the first comment.

For shame.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Had to watch Glitter Bomb 4.0

kalbokalbs

22 minutes.

What took ya so long? 😂

cthulhu

Thank you, De Pat, for a tumultuous Tuesday post.

TheseTruths

Catturd:

Breaking …

After a 9 day thorough investigation, the FBI has concluded, that in fact, the bullet didn’t hit a pack of hienz ketchup in the air and splatter ketchup on Trump’s ear, but it was actually a bullet that hit his ear.

scott467

The FIB doesn’t even pretend to be a credible agency anymore. Because they can’t, they’re just a bad joke.

kalbokalbs

FIB investigations are like movies with multiple “rest of the story” summaries.

FIB tests for public acceptance, having discarded truth from the onset.

TheseTruths

Former Sniper Rep. Cory Mills to Conduct “Parallel Independent Investigation” Into Trump Assassination Attempt in Response to Johnson’s ‘Task Force’

GOP Congressman Cory Mills on Monday said he will be conducting a “parallel independent investigation” into the attempted assassination against President Trump after Speaker Johnson assembled a disappointing task force to probe the Butler shooting.

The Florida lawmaker and former sniper said expressed his disappointment in Johnson’s Trump Assassination Attempt Task Force.

Notably missing from the task force are two veterans who happened to be snipers: Eli Crane and Cory Mills.

“It’s very unfortunate but not surprising for anyone familiar with how DC works. I’m not a politician, leadership, or a ‘yes man,’” Mills said in a statement on X on Monday.

“I wish the members of Speaker Johnson’s Task Force well, and think it’s time for a parallel independent investigation with subject matter experts (SME) and the whistleblowers who’ve already come forward that myself and Rep. Eli Crane and Benny Johnson have spoken with,” Mills said. “I will be speaking with other members, and although I won’t have subpoena powers, I will personally fund whatever is required for additional staff to further investigation and expose the truth.”

…Eli Crane and Cory Mills visited the site of the attempted assassination against Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Cory Mills believes the assassination attempt on Trump on July 13 could have been a setup.

This is probably why Speaker Johnson did not choose Mills to be a part of the task force. He believes the Secret Service was in on the hit job.

scott467

Great work by Cory Mills. It will be EASY to expose the purpose of Johnson’s team is to coverup, just by Cory Mills using subject matter experts, which Johnson’s team probably won’t use.

And if Johnson’s team does have some corrupt subject matter experts, now they know that Cory Mill’s subject matter experts are going to be presenting facts that any SME Johnson uses are going to have to deal with.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The “side show” is going to be the main event, and I’m there for it!!! 💖

Gail Combs

And do not forget that Clay Higgins is on Johnson’s team and was a LEO. Also he is NO FRIEND of the FIB

Nov. 30, 2023 Rep. Clay Higgins Drops a Bomb on Newsmax: “Over 200” FBI Agents Embedded Within Crowd on J6 – FBI Agents Behind Talk of Violence in Chat Groups! (VIDEO)
and

Jan. 6, 2024 “This is the Smartest, Best Informed Account of What Actually Happened on January 6th” – Rep. Higgins Tells Tucker All About Undercover Agents Involved in J6 (VIDEO)
Also from Gateway Pundit:

Former Sniper Rep. Cory Mills to Conduct “Parallel Independent Investigation” Into Trump Assassination Attempt in Response to Johnson’s ‘Task Force’

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Actually I think this split up works very well. Cory Mills can feed info to Higgins AND the DemonRats do not get to see it and BURY IT before the public gets to see it.

TheseTruths

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kalbokalbs

Popcorn Event Incoming.

Need more laughs. Sham-Ala The Hoe great source material.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

SHAMA-LMAO-DING-DONG

“WAIT’LL KAMALA SEES US! SHE LOVES US!”

scott467

That’s my favorite song in the movie, it’s the whole reason I bought the soundtrack 😁

Followed by Sam Cooke’s (What a) Wonderful World this Would Be

But I already had that one. The first time I ever remember hearing it was in my bedroom, on the classic rock station that my clock radio alarm was set to.

I was in 4th grade, and that song stuck in my head immediately 😂

Don’t know much about history
Don’t know much biology
Don’t know much about a science book
Don’t know much about the French I took

But I do know that I love you
And I know that if you love me too
What a wonderful world this would be…

TradeBait2

Absolutely love the work of James.

TheseTruths

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The message can’t be much clearer, Fox. The ball is in your court.

scott467

Fox was exposed as a NeverTrump enemy of the American People at the very first debate in 2015.

Ruppert Murdoch: Globalist billionaire sicko

Ruppert sons: radical Leftists

Board member and Former House Speaker Paul Ryan: RINOist neverTrump traitor

SD exposed the whole D.C. Bureau Fox crew at the time, I think Bill Sammon was the Bureau chief / ringleader.

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TheseTruths

Trump did get a lot of air time on Fox that first time around. He would call in to programs and talk about issues. They started going downhill at around that time.

rayzorback

Yes… was all good until Me-again Kelly took her shot(s) at him…
and MISSED!

TradeBait2

Which reveals their favorable push for PDT at the RNC was just for viewers/ratings.

Snakes are snakes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trying to sneak back into the house! THE SNAKE.

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hey, same here!!!

Aubergine

Me, too. Think this means we should be in charge?

TheseTruths

Yes!!!

TheseTruths

Less than 300 people are in attendance to see Kamala and Gov. Shapiro. The capacity of the Wissahickon H.S. auditorium is 3,500 people. Massive black curtains were put up to make the venue look smaller. The enthusiasm was short-lived.

scott467

It’s not gonna get better 😂

pgroup2

Who paid for those black curtains? My money is on the school district, which means YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

Does that make its use into an illegal campaign contribution?

Aubergine

Aren’t school expenditures public record?

TheseTruths

It should have been the campaign unless the school already owned them, which seems doubtful.

mollypitcher5

Probably the campaign has yards and yards of black theater curtains left over from Biden’s campaign, maybe a special bus compartment with varying widths and lengths 😎 

Linda

I was clicking over to read that Federalist story, but the whole website comes up as 403 Forbidden.

cthulhu

Same here.

Barb Meier

Ditto

cthulhu

I tried deleting cookies. No joy.

cthulhu
RAC

OK with firefox using yandex

Valerie Curren

I have Brave but whenever I attempt to look at that tab info from the page I just jumped from is superimposed over the federalist imagery…hmmm…

GA/FL

Oh – I see the link below.

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TheseTruths

The “White Dudes for Harris” X account has been suspended. My guess is they were either cheating with spam comments or however that works, or there were lewd comments on the account.

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Valerie Curren

Well they did use the forbidden word White…

Aubergine

It’s up again.

TheseTruths

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Except that “weird” is not going to last. It’s dumb, demonstrably false, and silly. I don’t think we’re going to embrace it and call ourselves weird. Things move much faster now than they did in 2016, and I expect Dems to come up with something else soon (although they appear to be out of ideas, and desperate).

scott467

I haven’t seen that one yet.

Barb Meier

It is mainly being reported on by the leftist media with people attacking President Trump and JD Vance with name-calling. Weird is apparently the most popular childish slur though I think Chuckles Schumer showed uncharacteristic initiative by using the insult of “strange.” Harris, Gov Walz of Minnesota, Schumer, and other democrats are focusing on weird rather than on the assassination attempt, extreme inflation, ballooning fed gov spending, or other things like the border invasion that normal people actually care about.

scott467

The Left knows all about weird. If they want to play that game, there’s a whole laundry list of weird (and depraved, and disgusting) that the Left promotes and glorifies every day of the week.

If the Left wants to have a ‘weird’ contest, they’ve got more ‘weird’ than anyone could ever hope to quantify 😂

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Robert Baker

Scott, the Left has always used slurs and labels in their campaigning. Ideas may be too complex for their audience.

kalbokalbs

D-Rat 4AM talking point. A complete failure.

TheseTruths

The memes are exploding. I expect it to die out soon.

kalbokalbs

Elon is going to terrorize D-Rats through Election Day.

Hopefully beyond.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This commenter caught it!

It’s an “active defense” of Kamala! And they stole it from Trump.

scott467

They are the GOAT Copiers! 😂 🤣 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! Indeed!!!

RAC

They parrot Weird Cos they’re skeerd.

Gail Combs

Think about it. WHO ARE THE DEMON-RAT VOTERS? (Aside from the dead.)

BLACKS — They are losing the Blacks because they do not like the Transgender soyboy schiff AND POTUS Trump now has major Street Creds. Also many are Christians and if not they are Muslims NEITHER are happy with the GAY MAFIA or Sexual Grooming. They certainly are NOT happy about the Illegal invasion and the sucking up of ‘THEIR’ GOODIES!

LATINOS — Many are not only Christians but Catholic. What I said about the blacks goes for the Latinos in SPADES.

Suburban Soccer Moms — They are more insulated than the inner city Blacks & Latinos but they are still getting hit with high prices and empty shelves. I very much doubt, no matter what they say out loud, that they are happy with males in their little girls rest rooms and sports. Nor do I think they are happy with the overt SEXUAL GROOMING in elementary school. This group is going to be more likely to cling to their illusions about the DemonRats however.

SoyBoys & College Elites — This group is composed of dyed in the wool Marxists and the only thing that will wake them up is the PolPot Treatment.

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April 2024 Pew Report: The changing demographic composition of voters and party coalitions

Oct. 11, 2023 YUGE! Latest Rasmussen Poll Shows 30% of DEMOCRATS “at Least Somewhat Likely” to Vote for President Trump – and 50% of Black Voters!

…the shocking numbers from the poll show that President Trump is breaking barriers that traditionally thwart GOP presidential candidates:  30% of Democrats are at least “somewhat likely” to vote Trump with 19% “Very Likely”. By comparison, President Trump only received 5% of Democrat votes in 2016.

The poll revealed 55% support amongst voters age 18-39, an often difficult demographic for Republican candidates, and 54% among 40-64 year-olds. Voters 65 and up come in at 47%.

Perhaps the most shocking number is the black vote with 50% at least “somewhat likely” to vote for President Trump and only 46% not likely at all. In 2020, Biden won 87% of the black vote. Among voters labeled as “other”, Trump is up with 52% at least somewhat likely to vote for him…

Jun. 22, 2024 Developing: Trump Enters Landslide-Victory Territory in Blowout New Rasmussen Poll

scott467

The suburban soccer moms are the most messed up people on the list.

Completely detached and insulated from reality, and don’t give a &^%# about all the harm they do to others, so long as they can virtue signal to their fake friends.

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Gail Combs

Scott, I am well aware of how *&^%ed up soccer moms are. After all I do parties for a whole different basketful every weekend.😉

Although some of them ARE waking up.

TheseTruths

They don’t care that we can see that they’re puppets who are told what to say. They look so dumb.

kalbokalbs

Nothing Weird About Being In The Majority – America First.   :wpds_wink: 

smiley2

weird = deplorable ! 👍

Gail Combs

Weird = A NORMAL 2 parent M/F CHRISTIAN family with Children.

Of course if you are a transgender Marxist Satanist, that would seem weird.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

kalbokalbs

Great observation.

scott467

I’m having some bad luck lately. I had an ear infection for about six weeks, since the first week of June until about 10 days ago when I decided it was mostly gone. I can still tell there’s liquid in my inner ear when I blow my nose, but all the other symptoms are gone.

Then last week, a spider bit my hand, just above the knuckle of the finger next to the pinky finger. It must have bitten me when I was sleeping, either in bed or on the couch. I suspect it’s a wolf spider (I think that’s what they’re called), or possibly a black widow, which I have killed a few of in the house over the years, but not many.

If it was a black widow, I figured I would be dead or in the hospital, so probably not a black widow.

Made the top of my hand and all across my knuckles swollen for about a week.

Looked pretty much like this, without the yellow dot in the middle, and completely healed in about a week:

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(photo says this is a black widow bite)

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It ended up looking like this for a few days (these are all images I found online), now you can hardly see where it was, except that the skin is still a little pinker and smoother as it heals:

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The stages looked a lot like this, which is apparently a brown recluse spider:

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But based on this chart (which now that I see them together, looks like they’re using identical photos but claiming different spiders are the cause…), it looks like a black widow bite, if the black spider with the colorful reddish section in the upper LH side is a black widow. I guess it was too much to ask that they might name / label the spiders so I would know which is which:

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(only looks like six to me, but I use old math)
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Apparently this spider is a serial killer. Sunday night it got me again, I was bitten twice, on the same hand as before, about an inch and a half from the original bite, right on the pinky finger, both bites about a 1/2 inch apart. Now that it knows a good food source (me), I don’t know why it would stop, until I find it and kill it.

One is worse than the other, looking like a blood blister, like the third image in the ‘stages’ picture above (the upper LH image immediately above, or the pic on the far right above that). The other one still looks like first stage.

My finger is swollen maybe about 25% to 30% as much as this example:

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I can bend it and make a fist, it’s not black and blue, doesn’t look like there is any blood flow problem (not turning black), so I suspect it will be fine in a few more days, like the one last week. It’s just a bad place to get bitten, because there’s not a lot of tissue in the pinky finger to absorb the swelling, so the skin if very tight from the swelling.

I have searched for the spider all around the couch, and twice around the bed (and in the bed), but I didn’t find any kind of bugs at all (which is usually a good thing). If I find it, I’m gonna kill it real good.

Is there anything I can do to make the swelling go down, besides putting ice on it? Does something like an antihistamine do anything for a spider bite?

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Barb Meier

Aloe and Benadryl are both mentioned as treatments in addition to washing it and using ice in a wet towel. The Mayo Clinic link has photos of the veomous spiders.

https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/dermatology/when-to-worry-about-a-spider-bite

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/spider-bites/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20352377

Treatment

Most spider bites usually heal on their own in about a week. A bite from a recluse spider takes longer to heal and sometimes leaves a scar.

First-aid treatment for spider bites includes the following steps:

Clean the wound with mild soap and water. Apply an antibiotic ointment three times a day to help prevent infection.

Apply a cool compress over the bite for 15 minutes each hour. Use a clean cloth dampened with water or filled with ice. This helps reduce pain and swelling.

If possible, elevate the affected area.

Take an over-the-counter pain reliever as needed.

If the affected area is itchy, an antihistamine, such as diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or certirizine (Zyrtec), might help.

Observe the bite for signs of worsening or infection. You might need antibiotics if the bite develops into an open wound or becomes infected.

For pain and muscle spasms, your doctor might prescribe pain medicine, muscle relaxants or both. You might also need a tetanus shot.

Black widow antivenom

If a black widow bite is causing severe pain or life-threatening symptoms, your doctor might recommend antivenom, which is usually given through a vein (intravenously). Symptoms usually ease within about 30 minutes of receiving the antivenom. Antivenom can cause serious allergic reactions, so it must be used with caution.

scott467

Thank you Barb!

cthulhu

Barb’s answer was better.

Barb Meier

Thanks Cthulhu, though your reply does bring up an important point. Scott’s spider is probably not on a vendetta.

pgroup2

Unless it’s a marxist spider …

They know who he is …

 😂 

Barb Meier

You’re welcome! Hope you heal quickly and don’t get an infection.

scott467

They haven’t broken the skin (none of them, not the one last week or either of the two new ones), so I’m not sure what good antibiotic ointment (like Neosporin) would do.

It does itch like crazy though!

pat frederick

Benadryl has an anti itch antiseptic cream

Gail Combs

I would use something to draw the poison out first like Wolfie’s https://www.bugbitething.com/ or if it is not immediately after the bite, Ichthammol or a wet compress with or without baking soda.

Only after that would I use an ointment that could possibly SEAL the wound.

I use Triple Antibiotic Pain Relieving Ointment.

cthulhu

I was thinking ichthammol, but hesitated because there might be some contraindication I was unaware of. It has worked wonders for me, but I don’t know that much about it.

Gail Combs

We used it on a re-occurring abscess on one of my ponies and the neighbor across the street used it on a nail that was in the hoof/sole of one of his horses. Took out the nail and then packed the foot with icthammol for 5 days to draw out all the infection. The nail had been there for days I guess.

I would go to ‘icth’ as a last resort before heading for the doctor.

scott467

If I ground up some Ivermectin, added water to make a paste, and applied it to the bite, it would probably heal instantly… 😂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

…oh, but only if you are a horse.

As your name is Scott, not Ed, probably not.

cthulhu

It could be “Mr. Scott”…..I’d have to hear him say “Willlllburrrr” to be sure.

mollypitcher5

That’s awful Scott, so sorry it got you twice.
Maybe it’s time to spray insecticide? Ortho Home defense is good. It has a handy spray wand. In my way of thinking if there’s one there might be others .

scott467

It’s a fairly big and old house (over 100 years old), so there are lots of spiders, and places for spiders to hide.

I come across small spiders about once every week or two. We have a deal. As long as they stay out of my sight and take care of the other insects, we’re good.

But if I see them, they’re dead.

It’s been a useful truce for many years, but one of them has clearly gone rogue.

I don’t see spiders that are bigger than the size of a dime very often, but every once in a while I find one the size of a quarter, or bigger. I suspect my nemesis is one of the bigger ones.

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pat frederick

we have larger benign orange spiders outside. but one scared the crap out of me–dropped down right in front of my face. i screamed ran inside and got the first spray i could find…hairspray.
i drenched it. it tried to move and it stiffened. i wear it on Halloween on my lapel as a reminder to the rest of them.

mollypitcher5

LOL I like your spunk.
Spray anything handy is my motto too..Windex, bathroom cleaner, whatever is closest!

Gail Combs

We actually had an Orb Weaver, I called the ‘Door bell spider’ who hung around for a couple of years. I did not have much trouble with insects then. Her body was about 1 inch long not including legs. Since then she has been replaced by either a praying Mantis, an  anole or a skink.

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Valerie Curren

 😂 

Valerie Curren

Is your coin size including legs or just bodies? shudder

scott467

Good question, I guess that includes the legs.

Not the feet though… the feet are extra 😂

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Valerie Curren

Nice! Way less scary than if those coins were the body size though…ewww!

cthulhu

I believe the lower right is the black widow, and the middle on the left is the brown recluse (AKA “fiddleback spider” — the body next to the head has markings that look like a tiny fiddle). The black widow is entirely black on top, and has a red hourglass marking on the bottom.

Both of those, and the Chilean recluse, are the only three spiders in North America with necrotic venom. Necrotic means that it destroys tissue. Unchecked, this can lead to gangrene and death.

While antihistamines may provide relief, studies have not been overwhelmingly positive or negative.

Also, there is a significant list of nasty things can be misdiagnosed as a spider bite — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_recluse_spider#Misdiagnosis — and delay while waiting for the “spider bite” to resolve may be dangerous.

cthulhu

Spider bites are not the eating kind of bites for the spiders — they are envenomations. The spider does not seek them out.

scott467

Well I don’t know why a spider would seek me out to envenomate me.

It sounds like a defensive reaction by the spider, but if it’s a territorial dispute, I was there first.

And I’m bigger, which is ultimately the deciding factor in the dispute between us.

mollypitcher5

….but they’re smaller, live in dark hidey places, make no noise…gah giving me the creeps just typing that

scott467

It should be much more worried (if it could worry, which it can’t) about what I’m going to do to it, when I find it… 😁

Valerie Curren

So sorry Scott–Yikes!

My dad had a spider bite on the buttocks that took weeks, or was it months, to heal. He was in his upper 70’s then though.

I wonder if using baking soda & water to make a paste might help draw out some of the poison/venom? Purely a guess.

Here’s a suggestion for you to plow through, hope you find something that helps!

https://yandex.com/search/?text=spider+bite+home+remedies&lr=89&search_source=yacom_desktop_common

This one has my baking soda suggestion in it too 🙂

https://trueremedies.com/home-remedies-for-spider-bites/

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Aubergine

If you want a really effective “drawing” compress, the way to go is tobacco.

Wet a little dried tobacco, put it on the wound (or bee sting; it’s great for those), and either hold it there, or tape it there with a little gauze or a band aid.

The added benefit of tobacco is the nicotine, which acts as a local anesthetic.

Valerie Curren

Great to know. Hubby has some pipe tobacco around for the very rare smoke.

cthulhu

The more expensive the cigar he disassembles for your wound treatment, the more he demonstrates he loves you.

I don’t know if pipe tobacco even counts.

Valerie Curren

LOL well he’ll get the occasional cigar, usually a gift, & probably not expensive at all. Thankfully any said smoking is outside or in our son’s basement man cave!

Gail Combs

I use baking soda. It neutralizes the formic acid in bee stings and fire ant bites. DO NOT USE ON CHIGGERS!

Valerie Curren

What happens with chiggers? Shudder…glad we don’t have Them in MI!

scott467

Thank you Valerie! 👍

Valerie Curren

YW Hope you’re feeling better ASAP & Please share a report of remedies tried & how effective they were for you!

scott467

At this point the swelling is already going down (it was noticeably better this morning) before I got around to trying any of the remedies.

Still looks bad, but the pain is gone and so is most of the itch. Swelling is down enough that the finger looks about normal now, except for the lump where the bites are located.

Should be fine, if I can just avoid any more spider assault teams for a while.

cthulhu

Good to hear.

Valerie Curren

Good news! Hope you get rid of them ASAP!

Brave and Free

I had a similar spider bite on my leg last year, all the same symptoms. My Dr. friend wrote me a rx for doxycycline and that cleared it up in about 5-7days.

Alison

That’s awful, Scott!! With so many bites, I’d be seeking a doc’s advice (I know…docs🤮 ) but I know from watching a friend get bit repeatedly and ignore the cumulative effects of the toxins that there is a strong case for antibiotics in your situation.

I’d also call an exterminator for two reasons – they are very good at spotting signs of spiders you might miss (that’s our experience with Orkin), and they have multiple ways to eliminate spiders – the sprays, little boxes, etc.

You can’t possibly be sleeping well knowing there might be another bout, so push yourself beyond trying to take care of You or your home yourself. This repeat of bites calls for stepped up measures.

we need you at 100% 🩷🩷💋

scott467

Exterminators are expensive, so a last resort.

I thought about the sleeping thing, but I checked the bed and all around it twice, so that was enough to not worry about it, and I slept fine last night 👍 [and no new bites]

After giving it more thought, and being that it was the left hand for all three bites, I’m leaning toward the spider being in the couch. The direction I normally lay on the couch has my left arm/hand against the back of the couch, and the spider could be down in the crease of the cushion, where the cushion touches the back of the couch.

I’ll hunt for it again with a flashlight in a little while.

barkerjim

https://www.wildlifetrusts.org/wildlife-explorer/invertebrates/spiders/giant-house-spider

The giant house spider is one of our fastest invertebrates, running up to half a metre per second. This large, brown spider spins sheet-like cobwebs and pops up in the dark corners of houses, particularly in autumn.

It could be anywhere in the room/house.

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Happy go lucky

I prolly could have lived the remainder of my life not wanting to learn that 😬😂

Valerie Curren

Ditto!

scott467

I’m faster.

I suspect it has to do with my longer legs.

Robert Baker

When I was just a pre-teen, one of my jobs on the farm during the Fall was to cut the corn stalks after the corn had been picked (by hand) and put the stalks into shocks to feed the cattle during the winter. Black widow spiders would spin webs between the corn rows. I would encounter scores of these spiders while doing the cutting. I knew they were poisonous, but they were not particularly aggressive. I would just use my tomahawk machete and just swipe the web down and go on my way. I was never bitten. Your story brought back the memory.

Gail Combs

I used to find the darn things around my water tanks all the time. NOW it is fire ants!

I prefer the Black Widows! At least there is usually only one or two and they are not aggressive.

Alison

I guess we need to Q-fund a machete for Scott 😂

Robert Baker

I say drop him in a cornfield this Fall and hope he has developed immunity

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Alison

You’re a hard taskmaster, Robert 😄

Scott can always “rub some dirt on it”.

Robert Baker

Dirt is a viable, well-tested alternative.

mollypitcher5

 😂 

scott467

I’ll be needing the machete then 😁

Robert Baker

We didn’t call them machetes on the farm. We called them tobacco knives.

Valerie Curren

 😂 

scott467

I have a nice machete, WWII vintage, my Grandfather’s from when he was fighting in the Philippines.

It’s a Legitimus Collins & Co., Made in USA, No. 22 with the arm and hammer logo.

Overall length 31″ with a 26″ blade and a hard leather sheath.

I found many examples online of the machete, but I couldn’t find an exact match for the leather sheath.

This one is fairly close, except the one I have is a much deeper reddish brown in color:

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The machetes came in many lengths, the 26″ blade is the longest I have seen after looking through a couple hundred examples on eBay and duckduckgo image search.

The logo looks like this, except mine says “No. 22”:

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Some examples have dates, ranging from 1941 to 1945, but mine does not have a date.

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Apparently there were two main handle types, this is the same as mine, except mine doesn’t have a hole drilled for the long leather loop (I forget what those are called):

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Could be overkill for a spider though… 😁

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Alison

I think you need to sleep with it 😘😘

scott467

What makes you think I don’t?

🤣

cthulhu

Are you sure that isn’t a cavalry sabre?

scott467

I’m not sure about anything to do with it, except that it was my Grandfather’s.

I’m about 99% sure it’s WWII vintage, which should rule out cavalry.

I would expect a cavalry sword to be longer than 26″ and have a narrower, more uniformly shaped blade, but that impression is mostly from movies.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

lanyard?

scott467

Yes, thank you!

Gail Combs

Baking soda

It  is an inexpensive and effective spider bite treatment method. Make a paste using baking soda and water, then apply it on the bite area several times a day. The paste will help relieve symptoms by reducing inflammation. (From Brave AI)

For a very infected black fly bite on my hand, –r ed line headed towards elbow, — I made a paste and then wet a sterile gauze pad and applied the paste to it. Slapped it on the bite, wrapped it in saran wrap and used water proof tape to keep it in place. The infection was drawn out within the day and the swelling went down.

scott467

Thank you Gail. I don’t think I have any baking soda, but if I do, it’s probably 10+ years old 😁

Happy go lucky

I use clay but you probably don’t have that either? If you have plantain (plantago) growing around outside, you can wash a few leaves and smash them up into a paste and use that and cover with a Bandaid. Good luck!

or chew them up and put that on, I’ve done that before when I was out in the country and stung or bitten

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks for the info, Scott. I have quite a bit of experience with nasty critters, and have some suggestions from which you can choose.

(1) I don’t like household pesticides. I generally keep most arthropod pests out by keeping a very low humidity in the house, which drives them out. HOWEVER, sometimes that is not sufficient.

One of the best and safest substances, suitable for indoors, which is both a very strong repellent AND pesticide, is a mixture of very similar organic compounds called natural pyrethrins. Pyrethrins are safe for use in kitchens and around living spaces, as long as you don’t spray foods and food preparation surfaces. You also have to be careful around fish. I think these substances, which are extracted from chrysanthemum flowers, are safe in bedrooms, and will literally drive pests out of the room, even if you just spray corners and baseboards.

Here is one such product.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Hot-Shot-Kitchen-Bug-14-oz-Insect-Killer/4741604

These are not the same as synthetic pyrethroids, which are stronger, and have names such as bifenthrin, cyfluthrin, cypermethrin, cyhalothrin, prallethrin, tetramethrin, and transfluthrin. Those products are better for garages, basements, etc.

Pyrethrins are often sold as flying insects sprays because of fast action, and for vegetables gardens, because they degrade fast outdoors, and can be used up to harvest. The FORM of the product is not as important as WHAT IS IN THEM. So you can use a flying insect spray to spray baseboards, or even a garden spray, although those might damage wood finishes, whereas a household spray will generally not, so be careful.

I find that pyrethrins last a long time indoors. It can be harder to find them in household sprays, because the synthetics are stronger and cheaper. If you’re not averse to synthetic pyrethroids, then just use those – there are many products out there.

This is an important first step, to get your little friends out of your living areas. It works on ALL arthropod pests – they hate pyrethrins.

(2) There is a device called a “Bug Bite Thing” which will stop a spider bite IN ITS TRACKS. I just used one again recently, and it had me healed in 24 hours. Nasty bite from the garden. GONE.

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https://www.bugbitething.com/

I use these devices rather aggressively, because I’ve used similar products for years, for both suspected snakebites, and for stings in anaphylactic individuals. These devices save lives! I apply them until I get fluid to back out of the wound, and then I keep doing it until the fluid stops coming (which it will when the poison levels at the bite or sting drop below hemotoxic levels).

Yes – let the suction HURT. That means it’s working. Get fluid to come out, release pressure, and soak it into something porous, then repeat until fluid stops.

There is a similar, more expensive device called The Extractor. I actually find The Bug Bite Thing to be stronger, if you press it down as firmly as needed to get a vacuum-tight seal.

Everybody needs one of these, IMO.

(3) Hydrocortisone cream (1%).

This is a really good way to keep swelling down. Antihistamines are good, too, and I recommend both.

(4) I think you have a spider there, although a house centipede may be the culprit, too. I try not to kill those, because they consume a lot of spiders, they shy away from people, and their “bite” is not that bad for humans (which is part of why I think this is more likely a spider). House centipedes are generally the apex predator of the house, once they get big. They will also learn to stay hidden if you just scare them back into their hiding places (i.e., they are programmable).

Black widows generally cause some neurotoxic symptoms like muscle pains, nausea, etc., so if you’re not getting those, other spiders seem more likely to me.

Hope that some of this helps.

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kalbokalbs

Great information. Thanks.

Have had a ugly spider bites.

Ordered a Bug Bite Thingy. Also the Tick remover gizmo. Looking at lower humidity.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great! I think you’ll be pleased by the BBT. Like I say, the trick is to get some decent suction, to the point of fluid backing out, and then repeating. I’m always amazed by how well it works. Bees of all kinds, wasps, spiders, ticks, snakes, and the dread “unknown” – works for all of them. For honey bees, scrape the stinger and venom sac off, first, IMO. Same with an ant head, etc.

For an adult snake bite, you may need to apply separately to each fang puncture, but for baby snakes and smaller ones, you can get both marks under the cup and centered. Note that the patient’s skin will rise up and get sucked in, so bite marks near the edges will get squished to the side, blocking flow of lymph or blood, and thus you may want to position each puncture separately in the center for bigger bites.

The product is not advertised for snake bites, but it works as well or better than the Extractor, which IS designed for snake bite.

Valerie Curren

My aunt used a credit card to deep pressure scrape the bee sting area on my mom’s hip a few years back.

When travelling to AZ as a teen I recall reading about treating snakebite by cutting small parallel cuts through the punctures & then sucking & spitting out the blood/fluids a few times. I guess that’s kinda old school 😉

cthulhu

There is an old joke about a couple of hikers who are off in the wilderness. One goes to do a #2 over a log and is bitten on the ass by a venomous snake. The other looks at their first-aid book and sadly says, “I’m so sorry, you’re gonna die.”

Valerie Curren

LOL!!! No butt kissing for you!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes – don’t do the cuts thing – that increases tissue damage and inflammatory response, and actually reduces the amount of venom that is being pulled out. Higher suction concentrates the reversal of fluids right out of the venom delivery channel. It’s much smarter. But the fluid that comes out has a higher concentration of venom, and it’s very important (1) that you GET liquid to come out, and (2) that it be soaked up and removed from the site.

Valerie Curren

Excellent info–TY 🙂 Hope I Never need to apply it!

Gail Combs

Other options for creepy crawlies.

Boric Acid. It can be placed around the edges of the house or baseboards.
Toxicity:
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/archive/borictech.html
https://abctermite-pest.com/is-it-safe-to-sprinkle-boric-acid-around-the-house/

Another option is diatomaceous earth
http://npic.orst.edu/factsheets/degen.html

How does diatomaceous earth work?

Diatomaceous earth is not poisonous; it does not have to be eaten in order to be effective. Diatomaceous earth causes insects to dry out and die by absorbing the oils and fats from the cuticle of the insect’s exoskeleton. Its sharp edges are abrasive, speeding up the process. It remains effective as long as it is kept dry and undisturbed.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Love boric acid!!!

scott467

Thank you!

Please

Weird ;)) I had a very similar ear issue with 80% plugged ears for about 6 weeks during the same time period, stating second week of June. Accompanied by bad cold symptoms where I lost 10 pounds in two weeks. I called it Diet Covid. It came after I travelled by plane to middle America. After flying, my ears never unplugged.

scott467

I haven’t had an ear infection since I was a kid, until June.

By the time it was bad enough to see a doctor it was a Sunday, so I called my doctor’s office and put in an automated request for the on-call doctor to call me back.

I described the symptoms and he called in what I think is called a Z-pack, some sort of antibiotics (Azithromycin or something), which I picked up on Sunday evening before the pharmacy closed.

That got rid of the fever and body aches in a few hours, and I thought I was going to be all better by the next day.

But the next day it all came back worse than before, then gradually tapered off to a maintenance level of sickness, not getting any better, but not getting worse.

I finally went to the doctor, and he prescribed antibiotic ear drops.

So I was taking the ear drops 3 times a day for a couple weeks, along with putting hydrogen peroxide in my ear canal a few times a day. I couldn’t tell if it felt like I had swimmers ear because I was sick, or because I was putting so much liquid in my ear every day.

Then came the attack of the killer arachnids.

Let the good times roll 👍😂

Valerie Curren

I use that pressure release method, holding the nose & blowing w/ enough force to pop my ears, sometimes multiple times a day. There have been times when a feel like I might be fighting something & my ears feel full. Releasing the pressure sometimes then involves a prolonged squeak. Often when I do this the symptoms never progress into obvious illness.

cthulhu

That is the Valsalva maneuver, beloved of SCUBA divers —

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valsalva_maneuver

Valerie Curren

I was almost going to use that term but couldn’t remember if it was the right thing or not. I did take Scuba way back in the day…almost 40 years ago now–yikes! How time flies 🙂

Barb Meier

I’m glad the guy in the video got the baby off the road though mom’s motherly instinct only lasts so long and that’s normal for opossums.

https://opossumsocietyus.org/general-opossum-information/opossum-reproduction-lifecycle/

Valerie Curren

I’m guessing that baby doesn’t make it long term 🙁

Valerie Curren

OK guys I think this important & needs some explanation. Is anyone else looking into This part of the story they keep trying to sell to us?

Here’s (what I would guess to be) an early shot of “Crooks” dead on the roof.

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Now here is a still from the body cam as they are approaching the body:

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& Another still of the body from the body cam footage showing multiple channels or roof ridges before getting to the Western/rightmost or toward us, depending on which pic is being used for comparison:

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It appears that his position looks different than when that bodycam guy is on the roof, as in his torso here is more on its left side above & is more face down in the bodycam…fwiw…so at a Minimum they shifted the body positionally…

Also, this makes it look like he’s right near the EDGE of the Roof not more to the left center of the building.

How much was the kill site was staged???

I’ve thought this blood trail suspect for if he was killed quickly w/ a head shot once the heart stopped the blood would no longer be being pumped out.

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The thicker line of blood & the thinner line of blood that trail from the deceased to the edge of the roof would imply 2 different blood generating sites, perhaps at slightly different times. Perhaps this is a dumb analogy but I often try to get the dregs of pop out of a 2 liter bottle so will lay it on its side for a while & come back later. There will be some larger drops of pop & a small puddle residue in the side facing down. I’ll tap the bottle a few times to get some of the drops to gather together. If even a small amount of liquid can flow once it hits a separated drop it will add Most of the drop to the larger amount flowing & leave a small bit behind. That strange blood flow down the roof doesn’t seem to display this quality of liquid joining together when it meets. I just seems “off” to me, instinctively. Frankly it strikes me like there were 2 bags of blood, first with a larger amount spilled out as someone walked from the body staging area to the roof’s edge & then with perhaps the smaller residue squeezed out in an overlapping pattern.

This body position of the alleged shooter Crooks/Yearick? lines up with the top picture in this comment of the deceased. It also lines up with the ABC News, iirc, graphic that claimed “Crooks” was shooting near that edge of the roof (which could provide convenient cover if the actual snipers were firing from the second story windows). This is NOT the location where the body cam footage placed the body about 1/2 hour after the shots were fired, I believe…

These shots appear to also place the deceased near the Western edge of the roof…

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Were they staging TWO separate shooter areas, but just one deceased, given the blood pattern on the face which is the same in BOTH locations???

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I still think these differences in blood “pooling”, possibly in 2 different rooftop locations for the same deceased body need an explanation!

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Please help this make sense for once I see TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS for the SAME BODY I Cannot UNSee it!!!

Valerie Curren

Look at the 2 smaller pics in the lower left of this collage. Obviously the angle is slightly different. Look at the foliage. Look at the silver object w/ the green “top” that is to the right & above the deceased’s head. Look at the beige elevated stuff behind the uniforms in the one pic but not the other…

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This looks like the source for the top pic of the duality…

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cthulhu

The thing with the green top is a light fixture mounted on the wall below the edge of the roof. The glass part starts right above the edge of the roof and would typically continue downward.

Valerie Curren

TY! I just finished watching the Dr. Martensen video shared late yesterday & he said that there was a drainpipe on the more eastern side of that building that we could use to orient to where the shooter was positioned, likely more like where the bodycam guy encounters the body, like perhaps 2/3 of the way to the East compared to the West edge of the roof.

TradeBait2

Spoke with a LE who would know (SWAT/sniper experience). Had the SS sniper with shot # 10 at 15 seconds from the start been who took Crooks/whoever out, the higher caliber round would have blown his brains and head out all over the roof. The round penetrates and explodes apart upon impact. In his opinion, the kill shot would be from shot #9. Which is to be determined.

kalbokalbs

Interesting.

Has he opined if a Pro fired at Trump or dope on the roof?

TradeBait2

His gut says pro. Cadence of the first three rounds are more measured like he and trained snipers would handle it, which LE did in the response fire on Crooks. The second grouping of five are rapid fire, show inexperience, anxiety, etc.

If he was a black hat he said he would use similar weapon/rounds and have a similar trajectory/line of fire types as the patsy to cast doubt. Believes that is what is in play – just his opinion. He could not believe that they did not get PDT off the stage or even let him go on it at all when they had spotted the guy. Like everybody else he wants to see more people provide their cell phone recordings for the sound and trajectory forensics.

We had a good conversation about it last night.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great report! Thank you!!!

Valerie Curren

Fascinating. This is an important source of info. Hope you can keep talking with him for more insights & analysis! TY so much for sharing!!!

Valerie Curren

Here’s a shot of what looks like a uniformed & helmeted pro on the rooftop w/ the patsy possibly behind. I don’t think the gun they took from “Crooks” had such a big scope. A few more images at a comment way up in reply to Para (I think) after sharing a tweet w/ the “shooting from the window” that may or may not now be debunked…fyi…

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Valerie Curren

In listening to that Dr. Martensen video, or possibly the longer original one (the views obscured w/ a lot of verbiage overtop) where someone is talking to the guy doing the filming after all the shooting was over & he said that he saw the shooter hit in the head & that a lot of his hair blew up (I don’t recall the Exact way he said it)…

Valerie Curren

These appear to be the same guys & it looks like they are removing the gun from the deceased’s hand in a fairly dangerous manner as the barrel is pointing at the uniformed guy’s gut…

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pgroup2

That thing with a green top is a street lamp, seen from the top.

Valerie Curren

TY PGroup. I wonder if it shows in the Google maps/streetviews of the AGR site that some people have referenced. It would help to locate just Where that rooftop pic, near the edge w/ the yellow wall, is in the complex.

Valerie Curren

Re-viewing the images in the immediately above comment, in the bottom pic the right-most camo dude has what looks to be the silver w/ green top “street light” around his kneecap. So seeing that somewhat anchoring object these Westernmost roof pics, near the yellow/beige wall, are probably showing the same site, just with some different foliage depending on the vantage point of the photographer (who may be shooting pics in a tree as there were some maple leaves in one pic at least)…

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This is still, in my opinion, a DIFFERENT Location for the Body than that depicted in the bodycam footage, fwiw.

Prove me wrong!!!

Valerie Curren

I think the 2 images in the collage w/ armed men & the deceased were taken either by 2 different photographers or by 2 different vantage points. Most of those edge of the rooftop images have the “light fixture” roughly at the deceased’s thigh so they look like there were taken from one vantage point, presumably by one person…

pgroup2

Push yourself back away from the keyboard.

Seriously.

Go hug your loved ones. Individually or group hug — matters not.

Just stay away from the ‘puter for a day.

[if you’re using a cell phone, put it in the freezer]

Tell God you’re grateful for the gifts He has given to you.

 😍 

kalbokalbs

There’s a great idea!

Valerie Curren

LOL

mollypitcher5

I can’t speak to the blood flow but it torques me that the hearings never touch on the identification of the shooter. To my knowledge they haven’t explained how they used DNA for proof so quickly. What did they use to compare? Why would they have immediate access to a smear of his DNA?
That ‘s one thing but the next is the typical swallowing whole the “fact” that it was Crooks. There is ample reason to at least question that “fact”.
It’s the usual half assed way the govt investigates anything when the FIB or CI A might be involved. In the end they might do a small mea culpa and admit shortcomings and we’re all supposed to cheer for that worthless victory. The truth is..if it wasn’t Crooks that exposes a huge gaping GOVT conspiracy and Congress doesn’t have the steel to confront them or stand up for absolute truth. They like their truth in easily digested bullsh*t

mollypitcher5

and PS..even if it’s indisputably Crooks…it still doesn’t eliminate a huge gaping conspiracy of our Govt involved in assassinating a former president

Valerie Curren

1,000,000%   :wpds_evil: 

Valerie Curren

Well said. That blood flow “concern” was a side issue with me. The real problem (well a Big One of Many) is what looks like TWO Different Locations for the same body, one in the first or possibly second channel (between those roof ridges) off the Western side of that building & the second closer to the middle of the roof, but more toward the East, like at least 30 feet apart. We have Clear Photographic Evidence of those TWO places for the same body, that may or may not be Crooks or Yearick.

This appears to be at nearly the Westernmost edge of the roof, clearly not in the middle…

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This places the body more centrally on the roof & I believe more toward the Eastern side of the roof, not the Western edge.

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I muddied the water talking about the blood issues (that I have). I really wanted ANYone to weigh in on these 2 different locations for the SAME BODY, per the blood trails along the face.

I agree with you about the Crooks vs Yearick issues. That DNA claim appears false on its face for Crooks had no (acknowledged) criminal background so where did this DNA sample come from? If his parents did report him missing would they Already have provided DNA to authorities, before he’s been gone a day. Based on Crime tv I’ve seen I thought “they” wouldn’t even open a “missing person’s case” when an adult has been gone less than 24 hours…

scott467

Who is the princess snowflake cupcake who keep blurring out images and writing GRAPHIC all over everything?

A Clint Eastwood western is roughly a hundred times more graphic than anything in these pictures, and people pay money to see those movies.

The daintification and woosification and prissification of our society has to stop.

And it’s not MEN who are behind all of that BS!

Valerie Curren

I think that blurring was done by the police that the bodycam guy worked for, but that’s purely a guess on my part.

K1tt7-fzn

NEW: Forecaster who has predicted almost every election since 1984, says Kamala Harris will likely win the election in November.

Allan Lichtman, who correctly predicted Trump would win in 2016 & Biden in 2020, says his forecasts point to a Harris win.

Lichtman uses ’13 keys’ to make his predictions:

The “keys” are:
– party mandate
– contest
– incumbency
– third party
– short-term economy
– long-term economy
– policy change,
– social unrest
– scandal
– foreign/military failure
– foreign/military success
– incumbent charisma
– challenger charisma

As of now, Harris has 6 keys and Trump only has 3.

Lichtman still has four keys to hand out but Harris is already at 6 meaning, in his own words, “a lot would have to go wrong for Democrats to lose.”

Lichtman is waiting until the DNC to make his final prediction.

I disagree with how he has graded his own forecast.  

No primary contest? Whatever you call what just happened with the switcher is certainly something, and unprecedented in the history of his model.

Short term economy – Terrible for everyday people.

Long term economy? Terrible for everyday people.

Major policy change? the social/cultural upheaval of their far left positions, including immigration doesn’t count? Please. Phase out gas? Packing SCOTUS? DEI everywhere?
 
No scandal? They just forced out a sitting president and Kamala hid it! 

No foreign policy failure? Ukraine/Israel/Afghanistan?

Uncharismatic challenger? Trump is more popular than ever.

Lol. The only indicator you really need is the propensity of the American bureaucracy to rig an election. That propensity is high. 

I have no doubt Trump’s going to win, but I also have no doubt they plan to name Kamala the winner. God help us.

GA/FL

Will the ‘Everyday People’ tolerate:

  • another brazen election steal?
  • the subsequent censorship of anyone who speaks against the steal?
  • more persecution such as the arrest and imprisonment without a trial of anyone who objects to the steal (aka more Jan 6 martyrs)?
  • more ruinous Democrap economic and immigration policies?
  • more medical tyranny and lies?
  • more brazen perversion and depravity, more grooming and mutilation of children, more censorship and persecution of pro-life activists and traditional Christian points of view?
para59r

Regardless whether this guy is worth listening to or not the left will seize on this to inflate expectations which they can fill with fake votes. Something they are already doing by putting out bogus polls which make zero sense. If they can make the case for a high turn out from the left they are more than capable of manufacturing those votes.

kalbokalbs

Parallels my post regarding Exit Polls.

Deep State managing expectations for the steal.

Gail Combs

BINGO! This is the start of the GASLIGHTING to JUSTIFY the STEAL!

Gail Combs

He is a DAMNED MARXIST!

TradeBait2

So this dude is always right, yet, uses subjective reasoning and ignores whatever data and observations he chooses to arrive at his prediction.

Fed propagandist.

Moving on.

Gail Combs

WIKI:

Allan Jay Lichtman (/ˈlɪktmən/; born April 4, 1947) is an American historian. He has taught at American University in Washington, D.C., since 1973.

Lichtman created the Keys to the White House model with Soviet seismologist Vladimir Keilis-Borok in 1981. The model uses 13 true/false criteria to predict whether the presidential candidate of the incumbent party will win or lose the next election. Using this model, Lichtman has accurately predicted the outcome of most U.S. presidential elections since 1984, with the exceptions of 2000, where he predicted an Al Gore victory (but did caution his model only pertained to the popular vote), and 2016, where he predicted a Donald Trump popular vote victory and afterwards revised his model to note it picked the Electoral College winner. He ran for the U.S. Senate seat from Maryland in 2006, finishing in sixth place in the Democratic primary. 👉In 2017, Lichtman published The Case for Impeachment, laying out multiple arguments for the impeachment of Donald Trump.👈

…Lichtman received his B.A. degree from Brandeis University in history in 1967, and graduated Phi Beta Kappa and magna cum laude while also running track and wrestling. In 1973, Lichtman received his Ph.D. from 👉Harvard University👈 as a Graduate Prize Fellow, also in history….

Outside of the classroom, Lichtman has testified as an expert witness on civil rights in more than 70 cases for the U.S. Department of Justice and 👉for civil rights groups such as the NAACP,👈 the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund and Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, and 👉the Southern Poverty Law Center.👈 He also consulted for Vice President Al Gore and Senator Ted Kennedy. He assisted the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights investigation into voting irregularities in Florida during the 2000 election,[9] submitting his statistical analysis of balloting problems. Lichtman concluded “there were major racial disparities in ballot rejection rates”….

And you TRUST THIS GUY???

CAN YOU SAY GASLIGHTING TO JUSTIFY A TRUMP DEFEAT?

RAC

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Also this from OT

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/07/29/letter-to-the-speaker-of-the-house-and-president-of-the-senate-on-the-amendment-to-the-agreement-between-the-government-of-the-united-states-of-america-and-the-government-of-the-united-kingdom-of-grea/

RAC

This from yesterday is what, I think, Col Macgreggor referred to…

“Wagner PMC issued a statement on the situation in Mali

The detachment was led by Sergei Shevchenko (call sign “Pond”). On the first day, his group destroyed most of the Wahhabis and put the rest to flight, but the radicals were able to regroup and increase their numbers to a thousand people thanks to a sandstorm. The attempted attack was repulsed, but over the next two days the radicals increased the number of massive attacks.

On July 27, the last message was received from the fighters: “There are only three left, we continue to fight.” The detachment commander died.”

https://t.me/intelslava/63797

kalbokalbs

Video an excellent SUPERB, MUST LISTEN listen.

Edit.

First nine minutes WH centric. Historic and present. Very interesting.

Then onto Ukraine, Russia, NATO AND USG. O M G.

An attack on Russia, apparently from Finland.
Bizarre as hell, IMO.
Central Africa. Ukrainians engaging there.
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Really bad shit happening while America is – Look Squirrel..

100% trump attempted assassination Must Be Figured out.
Not tossing darts here.
100% Sham-Ala The Hoe deserves ridicule until she is run out of running.

100%, America IS being fomenting WWIII.

RAC – Thanks for bringing this video. Critically important video to watch. IMO

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RAC

YW

Gail Combs

I just added that Biden letter to:

THE CASE FOR NUCLEAR WAR

The Cabal really does want Nuclear War don’t they?

Robert Baker

If the depopulation agenda is taken as a given, then nuclear war is the quickest way to achieve that goal. Those who take the Bible as tomorrow’s newspaper we know that the world ends in a bang not a whimper. My apologies to TS Eliot.

Tonawanda

Not only was the government cheese delicious (great for grilled cheese sandwiches!). My family got butter, absolutely perfect butter. Peanut butter, flour, and lard.

We used to collect pop bottles at two cents each. In those days, it was not an environmental thing, I believe, it was worth it for the companies to re-use the bottles. Those pennies went to buy food in the days before food stamps.

Day old bread and other day old baked goods were just as good as just made if you did not know better (Kaufman’s Bakery, a huge facility, and the afternoons smelled delicious for miles around). There was your bread for grilled cheese sandwiches, peanut butter and jelly, and my favorite sandwich (still is) peanut butter and mustard. And day old donuts are just as sweet.

The lard made french fries in a skillet which were the best I have ever had, and that means decades.

In those days someone from the county made surprise visits to make sure you were not wasting money on the luxury item of a telephone. Even as kids the visits were humiliating, and it was meant to be humiliating, but otherwise we had no idea we were poor.

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Gail Combs

NOW the gov’t must phone ahead so your live-in boy friend has time to vacate…

Valerie Curren

nice view of the potential Actual shooter, slow to 1/4 speed

https://nitter.poast.org/floyddepalma/status/1817974605732266304#m

para59r

Nope we talked about this yesterday.
The vid this came from was the same vid that came out yesterday but it came out early the day before that and was sped up. The flashes they used did not correspond with the sounds in the vid. So flash but no sound. Now they are saying sound. Keep in mind that this vid was held by the FBI. The guy got the vid back and released it yesterday. But someone else prereleased a faster version the day before. Now this. Also two things. General consensus is that all windows are closed. Second you have people walking by the window, mostly cops but camera guy too and none are reacting to shots being fired from a lower window. What we have is light reflections and FIB manipulation.

Valerie Curren

I missed that discussion, I think. I did spend a bit of time on the video at 1/4 speed & saved a number of images that seemed pertinent to truth digging. Slightly before the shooting began the window in question appeared reddish w/ some lighter outline encircling the perimeter, maybe roughly 2 inches in from the window frame, iirc. In the image below the window appears reddish w/ a white curved object hanging down from the top, could mean lights on in the room perhaps. During the shootings the window appeared black & sometimes had what might have been gun barrel &/or muzzle flashes showing, in my opinion.

Window before the shooting started:

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Various stills, not necessarily in order, from around the time of the shooting

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This one appears to show someone w/ a big gun on the roof, fwiw…

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Another close up of the alleged rooftop shooter, this one located closer to where the bodycam body version of the crime scene was staged, imo.

Here’s some stills from Dr. Martensen’s video:

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This appears to show an object protruding Beyond the window frame, gun barrel?

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In my honest opinion I think that window in question was closed with an interior light on just before the shootings started. Someone turned off the inside light & opened the window (perhaps it opened inward or a raised sash) just before the shooting. It looks to me like multiple gun barrel images as well as some muzzle flashes that make it seem as if someone is taking shots from that spot. After shooting the window was closed (as the Real Shooter made an escape presumably) but I don’t think the light was turned on again.

The shooting started at almost right after a Drone appears on the scene, flying in from the East, maybe from the water tower area. It made me wonder if the drone was a signal to shortly begin the shooting. I think I captured about 1/2 dozen drone images.

Given the FIB had the guy’s phone for a while them tampering with evidence makes sense, including shifting the timing of the sounds of the shots versus the visuals from the window (assuming the window imagery is revealing one of the assassin’s attempts).

Also, the shots of the possible shooter on rooftop look like that person is mostly in black, with a black helmet on. There is a flesh toned slightly bent arm, or possibly leg, behind that. It reminded me of that shot of the mall shooter dupe, who was killed after “his” rampage, standing behind the black uniformed armed pro outside the mall, fwiw…

cthulhu

Great captures! Keep bringing them!

Through their foot-dragging and gaslighting, the SS and FIB have shown that nothing they present can be trusted. We’re going to have to figure it out without them, and the more input we have to dig through, the better.

Valerie Curren

Thanks Cthulhu. I’m no Anon & don’t have the tech skills to really clean that stuff up but slowing pertinent parts of videos down to 1/4 speed & being super quick on play/pause has let me capture some stuff that seems important, at least to me.

Didn’t someone say “we are the news now”…& it seems that we are also the truth diggers now too, way more than the “legit” investigators it apparently. Dr. Martensen’s work is quite compelling!

pat frederick

dunno if this is true. too early for spy vs spy…dictator vs asswipes

pat frederick

GB Bari
July 30, 2024 12:35 am

Hold onto your hats. Looks like the Venezuela situation isn’t what we thought it was. Looks like maduro was actually the good guy. What is happening down there is a CIA/Mossad incited color revolution. Maduro wanted Venezuela to join BRICS. CIA and Israel could not allow that so they stole the election from maduro and made it look like he was stealing the election from the Challenger. But the Challenger is the set up guy from the black hats. Turns out, Israel and the globalist want Venezuela’s oil that’s why they overthrew maduro. This situation is not over yet.

para59r

This is a twisting snake. China, Russia and a number of BRIC and Arab countries have congratulated Maduro to include the new new Mexican commi govt. Meanwhile a number of Latin American countries newly escaped from socialism have condemned the election and in that mix is Israel with the US leaning that way but afraid to declare.

I’m going with history knowing Maduro is currently sending his bad guys here, both military and felons, he’s Chavez’s guy and has always been a criminal, thug commi and nothing has changed on that front. Plus you can look at the standard of living in the country has crashed since Chavez came into power and clearly see what the people who’ve turned out in mass want, which the right to free elections which they have been clearly denied as tons of video have shown.

In my book no Maduro good guy exists. He may be useful for a broader strategy for China and Russia as they jockey for position in opposition to the US but he’s not a good guy and never will be one.

para59r

Meanwhile watch Trump. No way he tosses in with Maduro. He will do just opposite if he hasn’t already.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Trump was actually ahead of the game, back when there was talk about helping the Venezuelans oust their communists. If the public had wanted it, I think Trump *might* have supported it. As it was, America was weary of the endless wars, and I think Trump read that situation correctly.

TradeBait2

:I agree. Live to fight that fight another day. Let the two devils battle each other for awhile.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Agreed. “Maduro the good guy” is as poisonous as “China the good guy” – the latter being one of the biggest psycho plays on the Q right by the leftists via QAnon “chaff”.

Just because our deep state is bad, doesn’t make China, Cuba, and Venezuela “good”.

YIKES!!!

kalbokalbs

Spit balling here.

Yesterday read about Venezuela exit polling. Hmmmm. Exit polls in Venezuela?

Thought yesterday AND reinforced by Pat’s post above.

  • Deep State KNOWS Trump is going to trounce D-Rat.
  • What IF Deep State / IC creates Exit Polling on November 5th, Across The USA..
  • Deep State Knows they gotta TRY to make the steal plausible…
  • Plausible steal created partially through Pravda News 24/7 saying trump slated to lose, Exit Polls indicate Trump will lose…

>>> Your thoughts?

Valerie Curren

They certainly tried that in 2016 w/ Hitlery  😡  when she finally conceded, the next day iirc, everyone was in purple for the latest color revolution  😮 

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para59r

They’ll do that and everything they can to include run fake polls today, tomorrow and yesterday (they’ve already been doing this even after Joe got trounced in the debate. Some how Joe rose in a poll despite no reason for the poll to shift back in Joe’s favor) to make you believe they have the numbers which they will use to inflate expectations and fill that hot air with fake votes.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy