Were there canals in ancient Egypt?
Did ancient Egypt use canals?
Archaeological evidence for canal use is shown at many sites throughout Egypt including places such as the Giza plateau and where the Suez canal is today. The earliest written record of canal digging comes from about 3,100 BC…
Is it true that the pharaohs had a canal built?
Its origins date back to ancient Egypt.
The Egyptian Pharaoh Senusret III may have built an early canal connecting the Red Sea and the Nile River around 1850 B.C., and according to ancient sources, the Pharaoh Necho II and the Persian conqueror Darius both began and then abandoned work on a similar project.What ancient civilization used canals?
Ancient Egypt
The Nile River, the lifeblood of Egypt, was utilized to create an extensive canal system for irrigation, transportation, and defense purposes. Notable canal features within ancient Egypt include: The construction of the “”Canal of the Pharaohs,”” connecting the Nile River to the Red Sea….
WIKI: Canal of the Pharaohs
At least as far back as Aristotle there have been suggestions that perhaps as early as the 12th Dynasty, Pharaoh Senusret III (1878–1839 BC), called Sesostris by the Greeks, may have started a canal joining the River Nile with the Red Sea. In his Meteorology, Aristotle wrote:
One of their kings tried to make a canal to it (for it would have been of no little advantage to them for the whole region to have become navigable; Sesostris is said to have been the first of the ancient kings to try), but he found that the sea was higher than the land. So he first, and Darius afterwards, stopped making the canal, lest the sea should mix with the river water and spoil it. [10]
Strabo also wrote that Sesostris started to build a canal, as did Pliny the Elder (see quote further down).[11]
However, the canal was probably first cut or at least begun by Necho II (r. 610–595 BC), in the late 7th century BC, and it was either re-dug or possibly completed by Darius the Great (r. 550–486 BC). Classical sources disagree as to when it was finally completed….

Canal of the Pharaohs: The Forerunner to The Suez Canal
…According to Greek historians Strabo and Diodorus Siculus, after Sesostris, work on the canal was continued by Necho II in the late 6th century BC, but he did not live to see the canal completed. Later, Darius the Great picked up from where Necho II left, but like Sesostris, he too stopped short of the Red Sea when he was informed that the Red Sea was at a higher level and would submerge the land if an opening was made. It was finally Ptolemy II who finished the canal connecting Nile with the Red Sea. According to Strabo the canal was nearly 50 meters wide and of sufficient depth to float large ships. It began at the village of Phacusa and traversed the Bitter Lakes, emptying into the Gulf or Arabia near the the city of Cleopatris…

So the idea of a canal linking the Mediterranean to the Gulf of Suez and the Red Sea has been active since ancient times.
Wiki’s: Suez Canal give a history of the various attempts, successes, abandonment and retries over the centuries.
…It was re-excavated by Roman emperor Trajan in the first century AD… A geography treatise De Mensura Orbis Terrae written by the Irish monk Dicuil (born late 8th century) reports a conversation with another monk, Fidelis, who had sailed on the canal from the Nile to the Red Sea during a pilgrimage to the Holy Land in the first half of the 8th century… During the 16th century, the Ottoman’s made another try but it was too expensive… in late 1798, Napoleon expressed interest in finding the remnants of an ancient waterway passage…. Napoleon contemplated the construction of a north–south canal to connect the Mediterranean with the Red Sea. By avoiding the silt-laden Nile, such a canal would be easier to maintain. But the plan was abandoned because of the erroneous belief that the Red Sea was 8.5 m (28 ft) higher than the Mediterranean…. As late as 1861, the unnavigable ancient route discovered by Napoleon from Bubastis to the Red Sea still channelled water as far east as Kassassin…
At this point Wiki gets into the historic period of interest.
INTERIM PERIOD
Despite the construction challenges that could have been the result of the alleged difference in sea levels, the idea of finding a shorter route to the east remained alive. In 1830, General Francis Chesney submitted a report to the British government that stated that there was no difference in elevation and that the Suez Canal was feasible, but his report received no further attention. Lieutenant Waghorn established his “Overland Route”, which transported post and passengers to India via Egypt
The usefulness of this route for the British Empire was shown when dealing with the Indian Rebellion of 1857, with 5,000 British troops having passed through Egypt….
CONSTRUCTION
The British government had opposed the project from the outset to its completion. The British, who controlled both the Cape route and the Overland route to India and the Far East, favored the status quo, given that a canal might disrupt their commercial and maritime supremacy.
Lord Palmerston, the project’s most unwavering foe, confessed in the mid-1850s the real motive behind his opposition: that Britain’s commercial and maritime relations would be overthrown by the opening of a new route, open to all nations, and thus deprive his country of its present exclusive advantages.
As one of the diplomatic moves against the project when it nevertheless went ahead, it disapproved of the use of “forced labour” for construction of the canal. Involuntary labour on the project ceased, and the viceroy condemned the corvée, halting the project.
International opinion was initially skeptical, and shares of the Suez Canal Company did not sell well overseas. Britain, Austria, and Russia did not buy a significant number of shares. With assistance from the Cattaui banking family, and their relationship with James de Rothschild of the French House of Rothschild bonds and shares were successfully promoted in France and other parts of Europe….
The canal opened under French control in November 1869….
The canal had an immediate and dramatic effect on world trade. Combined with the American transcontinental railroad completed six months earlier, it allowed the world to be circled in record time. It played an important role in increasing European colonization of Africa.
The construction of the canal was one of the reasons for the Panic of 1873 in Great Britain, because goods from the Far East had, until then, been carried in sailing vessels around the Cape of Good Hope and stored in British warehouses.
An inability to pay his bank debts led Said Pasha’s successor, Isma’il Pasha, in 1875 [right after the end of the US Civil War when American Cotton became available again and depressed the price paid by Britian for cotton] to sell his 44% share in the canal for £4,000,000 ($19.2 million), equivalent to £432 million to £456 million ($540 million to $570 million) in 2019, to the government of the United Kingdom. [Actually the House of Rothschild] French shareholders still held the majority. Local unrest caused the British to invade in 1882 and take full control, although nominally Egypt remained part of the Ottoman Empire.
The British representative from 1883 to 1907 was Evelyn Baring, 1st Earl of Cromer, who reorganized and modernized the government and suppressed rebellions and corruption, thereby facilitating increased traffic on the canal….

At this point I am going to jump to a site in the UK.
The site is run by Stephen Luscombe a UK teacher who taught in France, the Middle East and Japan. He says:
First of all, I would like to make it clear that this site is not a rigorous academic site. I am sure there are plenty of mistakes and oversights on my part; for which I apologise in advance. My interest in the subject is purely that of a personal journey of discovery; to give myself a reason to research what I regard as a fascinating subject. Link
Egypt & The British Empire
rade links had existed between the two countries for as long as anyone could remember. Egypt was a key part of the old spice and trade routes between Europe and Asia. British traders had been loading and unloading their cargoes in Ottoman waters for generations.
British military and political interest in Egypt first manifested itself as it became obvious that in the Eighteenth Century, India was falling under the influence of Britain (and away from France). Despite, the direct sail routes around the Cape of Good Hope, Egypt still provided the quickest way of maintaining communications between Britain and and India. It required a brief overland journey, but it was still substantially quicker than circumnavigating Africa. India. It required a brief overland journey, but it was still substantially quicker than circumnavigating Africa….
He then goes into Napoleon attempted grab, the rise of the Egyptian leader, Muhammed Ali and the Brits & Ottomans defeat of this Egyptian leader. This is followed by the French involvement and the building of the canal.
…It was the French who were thought to be the most active in the North Africa region. They funded the Suez Canal and steadily increased their economic base in the country. British interest in Egypt developed during the American Civil War. At this time, British mills were starved of cotton. Alternative sources had to be found and one such source was to be Egypt whose cotton was actually a particularly good quality product. British companies began investing heavily in the production of cotton in Egypt. The hugely ambitious public works programs of the ruling Khedives also attracted British businessmen and their wares. Although, Egypt’s inability to pay for these modern conveniences was not yet thought to be a barrier to trade.
British strategic interest in Egypt was captured in 1869 when the Suez Canal was officially opened. The sailing times from London to Bombay were dramatically cut. British maps and ideas of the world had to be radically altered. The fact that the canal was controlled by the Khedive and the French government was initially a serious concern to the British. Although, It is from this point on that British decisiveness and speed of actions which consistently outwitted and out-manouevered the French and brought Egypt under Imperial British control. The first opportunity to pull away from the French was in 1875 when it became obvious that the Khedive had got himself into serious economic difficulties. The only way he could stave off creditors was by raising a seriously large amount of money. It was at this point that Disraeli was able to step in and offer to buy the Khedive’s shares in the Suez Canal Company. The speed of action on this event left the French reeling. Overnight, the British went from being a minority shareholder to being the controlling shareholder. Her influence had grown considerably as a result…
In only a few years the Egyptian government was again in economic difficulties. This time, the British and French governments initiated a stewardship of the finances of Egypt. In effect, this stewardship was little more than a joint form of colonization. British and French experts were to be sent to the various ministries in order to take control of day to day business of them. The Khedive’s unwillingness to agree to such loss of control was rewarded by his forced abdication and replacement by his son Tawfiq. The steady loss of sovereignty was keenly felt by many Egyptians. So much so that in 1882, Arabi Pasha initiated a revolt from inside the Egyptian army. In June of that year, riots broke out against the Europeans in Egypt. From this point on Britain took the initiative. The French refused participation in a bombardment of Alexandria due to political problems back at home. Surprisingly for a Liberal government, The British finally resolved on intervention and sent an expeditionary force to the Suez Canal. The Arabists were rapidly defeated at Tel el-Kabir in September and Cairo was occupied the next day. Accidentally, the British had found themselves to be masters of Egypt….
ative Council was suspended. After the Ottomans declared war on the allies on October 29th 1914, the British moved swiftly to break the technical link between the Ottoman Empire and the status of Egypt. The fate of the Suez Canal was just too important to take any chances and technically it was in enemy territory if Egypt was indeed a suzerain of Turkey. Indeed, Britain declared that the Canal was closed to all but allied and neutral shipping – despite international agreements to the contrary. Additionally, they deposed the Turcophile Khedive Abbas (who happened to be in Turkey at the time of their declaration of war) and created the new title of Sultan of Egypt on 19 December 1914 and engineered the pro-British Hussein Kamel to ascend the new position. The newly created Sultanate of Egypt was declared a British Protectorate rather than colony meaning that its people were subject of the Sultan rather than of King George. Hussein Kamel’s accession brought to an end the de jure Ottoman sovereignty over Egypt. But when Great Britain proclaimed this protectorate over Egypt in 1914, Saad Zaghlul’s benign attitude towards British rule changed fundamentally. The proclamation of the British protectorate united many of the different opposition groups in Egypt, and would become the starting point for Zaghlul’s new nationalism after the war.
The post-war international climate saw an increase in ideas of self-rule and independence – partly inspired by talk of Wilson’s 14 points, but also by a surge in national identities brought about by the war. Egypt’s nationalists, temporarily, saw how the rest of the Ottoman Empire was being divided up and wanted to be granted similar rights. Within days of the armistice Saad Zaghlul, the unofficial leader of Egyptian nationalism, headed to the British High Commissioner in Egypt, Sir Reginald Wingate, and informed him that the Egyptian people wanted their complete independence and that he would like to lead his delegation to London to negotiate with the British government.
The British government initially refused mindful of the continued importance of Egypt as a strategic concern. They did relent to say that they would meet with the Egyptian Prime Minister, but sensing the change in nationalist sentiment in his country, he not only refused but resigned. Saad Zaghlul called for a nationwide revolt. However, as martial law had not yet been rescinded, the authorities used their extensive powers to arrest Saad Zaghlul and deport him to Malta. This further inflamed nationalist sentiment and escalated into the 1919 revolution.
Riots broke out and Lord Allenby and Milner [of the Miner Round Tables -GC] were despatched from Britain to try and ascertain what to do next. They quickly came to the conclusion that it was better to grant independence to pro-British Egyptians rather than wait for nationalists to take power for themselves. Saad Zaghlul was released and allowed to return from Malta much to the joy of many Egyptians. However, negotiations over granting independence whilst still maintaining British troops in key positions, especially with regards to the Suez Canal, dragged on for two more years. Saad Zaghlul was once more sent into exile to the Seychelles, yet in reality both Allenby and Milner were of a like mind and resented the fact that it was politicians back in London who were delaying the inevitable. Eventually, it was Allenby who threatened to resign if independence were not granted. Lloyd George finally capitulated and agreed…
1920-30s
the newly installed King Fuad resented the constitutional challenges from the Egyptian Parliament and oscillated between undermining its power and having to turn back to Parliament to raise money. This lack of political stability in Egypt undermined its own influence. However, the Italian invasion of Abyssinia in 1935 concentrated minds and a renewed negotiation with Britain finally bore fruit with a new Treaty in 1936.
The treaty, under which Britain still retained a prominent if diminished influence, was to run for 20 years; both parties were committed to negotiating a further alliance in 1956, at which point Egypt would have the right to submit to third-party judgement the question of whether British troops were any longer necessary in Egypt. The British occupation of Egypt was formally ended, though British troops were to remain in some areas. As Egypt’s self-defence capability improved, they would be withdrawn gradually to the Canal Zone and Sinai where their numbers would be limited to 10,000. And Britain reserved the right of reoccupation with the unrestricted use of Egyptian ports, airports and roads in war-time…..
Although this is a favorable view of the History of the British Empire as expected from a British school teacher, it is very helpful since he has a column on the right with a timeline and with links to other articles.
Unfortunately, my free time has been drastically shortened so I will leave it to people to delve into this history of Egypt as they wish. I will be looking at the more recent history next week since it is critical to understanding the Middle East of today.
First.
Adorable. Made me smile.
I knew those GIFs would eventually be useful for something!
Beware of geeks bearing gifs
LOL!!!
Extremely interesting stuff! Thank you!!!
Branco gives GOP majority far too much credit.
LOL!!!
Yeah. They’re really only visible with an electron microscope!
A bit difficult to draw one of those for a comic!
Lol.
BREAKING: Justice Department Opens Criminal Investigation Into Andrew Cuomo
[emphasis mine]
Well, there goes the Cuomo Come Back Tour. Right into the ditch.
I’m guessing this will cost Brother Chris his job, also.
Where the hell did I put my bottle of crocodile tears?
have some of mine…

I’m old enough to remember how the New York
CommunistsDemocrats created a “kissing scandal” to remove Cuomo from office, so that he would not be removed for a mass murder scandal.Yeah me too, like it was yesterday. Had to “install” kathy, she’s much easier to control.
Yep.
Where are the tunnels and the submarines? Filled in and sent away, respectively?
I’m old enough to remember when we were reading about cement trucks on the island filling stuff underground.
And the fires burning there.
I don’t know. I think O’Keefe said those videos were from 2019.
Great point. That makes the videos forensically useful in ruling out bullshit claims about stuff on the island.
I would still investigate deeply. A stairwell behind the bookcase sounds so Epstein.
Put.
The.
Candle.
Back.
YUP!!!
Chances are the place has been sanitized, in the years since Epstein didn’t kill himself. All the really nasty stuff has been removed or buried so the place is now rated PG-13 or thereabouts, and thus can safely be made visible to the public at large.
It is amazing how dumb they think people are. Which reveals how dumb they are.
Which is why I’ve stopped clicking on this crap.
Nothing Breaking News About It.
Me, too, kalbo. Anything that was there to be seen is long gone. And with his promotion of the “sanitized version,” O’Keefe is only helping the cabal to claim there was “no there, there.”
Pisses me off. James O’keefe, whatever he used to be, is now just another attention-seeking fame-whore.
I’m wondering if you watched the video, because this characterization is not the impression I got. He is in no way helping the cabal.
I don’t watch O’keefe anymore. So no. I did watch the first one in this series. I was unimpressed.
But he is “showing” people Epstein Island as if it is the intact and unadulterated version, not the “sanitized” and cleaned up place it appears to be now.
And so, many people will think that the “shocking” artwork (not really) and the “strange” kitchen (seriously?) are all there was to it. No tunnels (filled?), no child porn art (gone?), no submarine base, no nothing. And maybe they are right.
Just because you asked, I went and sped through the above video. Astrological figures, oh my. And a “mysterious” sundial. There’s more sinister occult stuff in our local woo-woo store in a small town in Montana.
Maybe I’m just jaded. Or maybe Epstein was just a not a very occult or weird figure, just an average pedophile. Because this is just not very interesting or compelling. Frankly, it’s just boring to me.
That’s fine. I don’t think O’Keefe is representing it as anything that would solve cases. The reason I wondered if people actually watched the video is because of the things he said. He is a journalist who reports on things. He got this information, and he is presenting it.
I don’t care what kind of artwork Epstein had on his ceiling, but I found some of the aspects to be interesting. I also appreciated O’Keefe’s perspective on what he was presenting. The fact that this has prompted some people to come forward with information seems possibly significant IMO.
And it won’t save the country.
In the video O’Keefe says the footage was taken after Epstein was arrested in 2019. O’Keefe makes no claims of its being something that will solve the Epstein mysteries; it is just interesting, and it might reveal some things that the public didn’t know, and maybe even that investigators didn’t know. O’Keefe now has people calling him with information. There were some cryptic writing in one of the videos, and people are also making efforts to solve it.
So people can scoff and say it’s not enough, which O’Keefe addresses at the end, but any information can be useful.
WAYNE ROOT: The Raw Truth About Biden Dying of Stage 4 Cancer.
First time hearing of this.
Is someone trying to slip something into the narrative?
i don’t remember it either.
I never dreamed that anyone would use the covid shots as a scapegoat for why someone got cancer and everyone around them hid it for money and power.
if you drain a septic tank, you’re gonna find the rankest sludge you’ve ever smelled. 50 feet BELOW THAT, are the democrats.
Biden’s own closest aides have disclosed he had a severe reaction to the first Covid vaccine in late December 2020.
They say he went downhill dramatically from that day forward. He was never the same.
NONE of the above was released to the public. None Of It.
Could not get a clear answer from Brave and Firefox. First use of Grok.
So Maggot had a severe reaction December 11th. Stoopid enough to get a second Jab 21 days later.
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Notable, I think.
Rolling back to prior to 2020 election.
There has Always been something “Off” about Maggot’s health reports.
WHO was Maggot’s personal physician?
Pravda covered for Maggot’s Mush Mind.
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Final notes.
i don’t think they COULD release his adverse reaction to the shot. the same shot they were telling everyone was SAFE and EFFECTIVE?
stuck between a rock and a hard place of their own making.
Exactly.
Yet Maggot’s Morons mandated the Safe AND Effective Jabs.
they want depop–easier to control less people.
Colonel Kevin O’Connor was Biden’s personal physician. Most notable to my eye is that he looks like a midget (aka a little person or a child) in this photo walking with joe.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_O'Connor_(physician)
So Maggot had a severe reaction December 11th.
…
How did he have a reaction TEN DAYS BEFORE THE SHOT???
Typo.
Jab 21 December and 11 January.
Thanks for the clearification.
(At least you know I read your comments.)
And I yours.
I had never heard it either.
How could the Secret Service allow POTUS to be injected with an unknown substance? Repeatedly. Oh wait … they were incompetent as shown by Butler PA so an unknown substance fits right in with what we already know.
Along with the incompetence shown by the inability to ID the J6 bomb planter.
All parts of a plan? Or incredible coincidence?
Only The Shadow knows.
Or since Fauci et.al. kept advertising the jabbs as «safe and effective», so even if the substance wasn’t well known, there were no concerns that it couldn’t be injected into the President or anyone else.
Yes, we here know, I was myself mighty suspicious of the contents of the jab, and got ever more so as time went on and the side effects began to show up. But back then there were not the same level of knowledge or suspicion in general, and people like Scott Adams who eventually found out the hard way how bad the jabb was.
But that was and is later. Back in 2020 and 2021 when the whole pandemic panic (panicdemic?) was at its worst, the reigning narrative was much more pro-jabb.
Maybe it was the Shadow (in the Jungian sense)
I do not think they cared about Bite-me. Either that or the nurse slipped him a real jab instead of saline.
What if the cognitive “dementia” symptoms were actually chemo brain from the treatments? I haven’t seen anyone ask that question.
“How could the Secret Service allow POTUS to be injected with an unknown substance?”
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How could the military allow the whole Republic to be stolen?
Military Intelligence certainly was completely aware of exactly what was happening. Their job is to protect against all enemies, foreign AND domestic, and we were under attack by BOTH.
And they just let it happen.
REMEMBER: List Of Military Elite Purged And Fired Under Obama
Obama’s broken military
Obama‘s Military Coup Purges… | Investor’s Business Daily
John gaultier’s ferocious conservative blog…
Even if that’s all true, excuses don’t count.
If they are willing to give their lives in combat on some foreign field, they better be willing to give their lives in America while saving the Republic from some criminal interloper or usurper.
All of those explanations sounds about right. The people who controlled Ole Joe are beyond evil.
oooooh.
Obama, Clinton + Diddy + drugs. This is likely why the Biden cancer story dropped.
bingo!
Always a deflection for a media propagandist talking point, even if it is ineffective.
well i do picture obama when i hear freak off
Makes this make a lot more sense:
Now I’m curious about what else might of been in the Bill that got all of the Democrats and RINOs to vote for it.
Interesting thought!
Will work for minimum wage….plus large tips.
Stock tips…
Brave AI says:
No Tax on Tips Act
The Senate unanimously passed the No Tax on Tips Act on Tuesday, May 20, 2025, in a 100-0 vote, which eliminates federal income tax on tip income for hospitality workers and servers. The bill proposes a tax deduction of up to $25,000 for cash tips reported to employers and includes a tax credit for payroll taxes paid on tips in beauty and personal care jobs. 5
Key Provisions:Excludes tip income from federal income taxes but not from federal payroll taxes. – Creates a 100 percent above-the-line deduction for cash tip income.Limits the deduction to traditionally tipped occupations such as waiters, hospitality workers, and beauticians.The tax break is temporary, lasting through 2028.Workers earning $160,000 or more in 2025 are not eligible for the tax deduction. 1, 4, 5
The bill now moves to the House for further consideration.
Nevermind… happy thoughts…
awesome! now do Social Security!
Nevermind… trying to look for the bright side…
Now do the same with stsndalone bills for no tax on overtime and social security. Let’s see the Dimms alienate millions of voters.
Just mulling things over……
If you love to buy American and you would like to own comfortable, functional, durable socks that have an unconditional lifetime guarantee, may I suggest Darn Tough brand made in Vermont.
They have people of all types working for them, but check out the T-shirt on this guy. What does it mean?
Some college, probably.
The school of hard work!
Aha!
But if Darn Tough are that tough they won’t need darning.
Especially since if they needed darning, you would return them, not fix them.
Just when you think you couldn’t love her more…..
Mind you, our own dear SingingSoul has followed a similar path. She came thousands of miles from the land of her birth and went through all the procedures with all the effort because she wanted to be an American with us — and she is now treasured for it.
It saddens me to see so many who were just born here value it so lightly.
Tree of my four grand parents came from other countries, and my great grandfather came her from England and then went back leaving his wife and children.
You guys we still need prayer. A couple hours ago they said Josiah needed to accept blood products or there was a 70% chance he’d die in 2 days. He was going into hemorrhagic shock. They are trying to localize his GI bleeding but haven’t definitively done so yet.
he might need an ultrasound guided vascular procedure, endoscopic one, and/or a colonoscopy. They might be transferring him to the ICU too depending. It’s a long and rather scary night AND we are both very tired.
hope he can get out in under a week so he can make it to Mom’s visitation & funeral.

I tried to give dedicated blood to/for him but that process takes at least a week. He’s starting with 2 units AND they don’t screen blood for “vax” issues. I’m going to need help on putting together detox protocols after we get him home! Falling over exhausted on many levels
Thanks again for praying for me & my family. Thankfully Josiah’s vitals are now holding stable…Though he still has significant blood in his stool…sigh…
On a secular level…..well, crap.
On a spiritual level, prayers up.
Priceless! Blessings
See if you can sneak in a mention of Helicobacter pylori with the GI doc and see what sort of reaction you get.
Tall order
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/h-pylori/symptoms-causes/syc-20356171
OverviewHelicobacter pylori (H. pylori) infection occurs when Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) bacteria infect your stomach. This usually happens during childhood. A common cause of stomach ulcers (peptic ulcers), H. pylori infection may be present in more than half the people in the world.
Most people don’t realize they have H. pylori infection because they never get sick from it. If you develop signs and symptoms of a peptic ulcer, your health care provider will probably test you for H. pylori infection. A peptic ulcer is a sore on the lining of the stomach (gastric ulcer) or the first part of the small intestine (duodenal ulcer).
H. pylori infection is treated with antibiotics.
sending up prayers for you both Valerie!
Thank you Pat. God bless!
Lifting you and your family up in prayer may Christ embrace you you your son and family and give you peace and healing.
Thanks Singing. God Bless!
So sorry he and y’all are going through this valley, Val. Praying for healing and comfort from our Lord.
TY TB much appreciated. God Bless
God be with you!
He surely is! PTL
Valerie Curren
Thank you so much for the update.
First priority is to stop the hemhorragic shock. Pronto. Protocols for dealing with blood detox can be done after your son’s condition is stabilized.
Please try and get rest when you can. Please make sure you eat and stay hydrated.
Sending prayers and Deep Healing for Josiah.
Sending prayers and Deep Courage for you and your husband.
This is great wisdom P–TY!
This is what they were after. And it appears to have worked.
At this point it’s time to “let go and let God” as they say.
We are still praying for you all! Stay strong!
Thank You Wolf. We’re hanging. Tough AND tired
Don’t forget to rest
Prayers Valerie for entire family.
TY Kalbo
I prayed for untainted blood for Josiah. Not everyone was vaxxed; there’s gotta be safe blood in the supply.
do they ask when you donate?
I don’t know. But God is in control. So He can give Josiah uncontaminated blood if that’s His will.
Amen!
My experience is that sometimes they do and sometimes they don’t. I doubt they segregate blood by whether the donor was vaxxed or not.
Doubtful
As far as I know, all blood products in the USA are treated with chlorine dioxide as a disinfectant. I don’t have a source, but I’ve read that more than once.
They don’t want us using ClO2 for healing, but it’s used all the time for disinfection. For handling food in packing plants, for removing mold in tainted buildings, cleaning gov buildings after the anthrax-in-the-mail incident. And yes, to clean blood products.
Good to know. And of course they don’t want us to use it, it might work.
If you buy the supplies from a pool store,
it’s less than $100 for a LIFETIME supply.
Really.
And if you use the CDS method, you don’t have to worry about contaminants because you are infusing filtered water with the gas.
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Dr. Pierre Kory has been all over this topic recently.
They had no idea what would happen when they woke that man up.
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-persecutions-of-the-pioneers
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-untold-origin-story-of-the-discovery-f07
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-untold-history-of-the-discovery
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-numerous-mechanisms-of-action
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-existing-evidence-base-for-chlorine
And if you don’t want to make your own, you can buy products from Frontier Pharma, founded by this guy:
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-history-of-howard-alliger-pioneer
Other pioneers:
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-history-and-persecutions-of-jim
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-history-of-mark-grenon-a-pioneer
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-persecution-of-chlorine-dioxide
Documentary:
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/the-story-behind-the-chlorine-dioxide
More ugliness in “scientism”:
https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/unpacking-a-media-hit-job-trialsitenews
Cool, thanks!
TY A it’s in God’ s hands now…
Amen. Just like it always is.
PRAYES UP DAILY –
BUT GOD KNOWS
We do not know what tomorrow will bring
In reality we are not sure of anything
We close our eyes give way to sleep
There is no guarantee not even a peep
We say good-night to those we love
Entrust our rest to God above
Who knows the beginning from the end
Our entire life it is He who penned
Our days are full of challenges we know not
The what when why and how the outcome naught
As we awaken to a brand new day
It is God who is there to guide our way
It is He who brings light into our lives
It is we who strive and trustingly thrives
It is He who shows us the path the way
Who unconditionally loves us everyday
It is He who gave us our free will choice
It is He who gave us His grace to voice
Our decisions be they right or wrong
Will determine our stance weak or strong
Will we give in to temptation and quit
Will we be weak and meek not give a whit
Will we be strong and fight the good fight
Or will we be tempted to just take flight
We have no insight into what might come
We have no idea what direction from
If our lives are justified through others
If our needs are fulfilled by another’s
If we live each day in the last place
Will we ever be first in any case
Will we finally learn to love ourselves
Or leave our desires on the shelves
In every phase of life on earth
What we do will prove our worth
How we adjust to the highs and lows
Will determine which way our life goes
When stuck in a rut of sorrow and woe
We really have no direction to go
We haven’t asked God what He wants us to do
We are simply comfortable in feeling blue
We grieve our situation and that’s ok
He would not want it any other way
We seem to think we will figure it out
All on our own mind you we have no doubt
But God knows and He will wait for you
He’ll show you daily what He wants you to do
Signs and wonders before you displayed
All in the balance come forth to be weighed
Love one another is what you must do
Love one another as He has loved you
Listen to the clues He provides you each day
Being true to yourself is the only way
Now is the time to spread your wings
To set your sights on universal things
You might have no idea what that means
But God Knows what He put in your genes
D01: 02/16/2023
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Thank You Duchess!
https://www.theqtree.com/2019/05/23/the-poetry-tree/#comment-1345556
The bigger the case gets, the harder it is to hush it up.
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“This story gets more and more bizarre by the day.”
https://nitter.poast.org/JamesMelville/status/1924892123200897101#m
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“Ukrainian national Petro Pochynok, 34, has become the third man charged over arson attacks on properties and a car linked to Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, the Metropolitan Police said.”
https://nitter.poast.org/TalkTV/status/1925085826288918946#m
Another male model?
What is this?
Attack of the Killer Male Models?
Starring Keir Starmer, as the homosexual love interest?
5th Circuit responds to SCOTUS jumping in to produce a more rapid result —
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca5.224134/gov.uscourts.ca5.224134.25.1.pdf
h/t to https://redstate.com/smoosieq/2025/05/20/this-is-a-district-courtnot-a-dennys-5th-circuit-responds-to-scotus-in-tda-case-and-hoo-boy-n2189368
woohoo…I’m liking THIS opinion.
…not a Denny’s…bwahahahahaa
This judge sounds a bit like Senator John Kennedy.
he does and he’s correct. they filed their appeal after midnight. if SCOTUS thinks they were given ample time to make a decision (within 12 hrs) then they need a lot more funding and staffers and judges to run a night court.
$1.99, I think they’re out of their mind(s)…..
The hint would be the large brass pole in the corner of the courtroom.
I love the idea of seeing them rushing to the pole in robes and sliding down into a courtroom.
Amen!
Not forgetting Tesla without who there couldn’t have been an electricity transmission grid system
Check the accounts… Follow wives and girl friends… Bitcoin transactions…
Similar to
SenatorMenendez gold in the fridge. i never keep my gold in the fridge–thieves might get hungry…
NO cold cash?
more like frozen assets…lol
And half-assets….
I believe that Sneera Tandem, Handmaiden of Cankles, is alleged to have been a top Autopen Operator. I have also suspected her involvement in J13, as one who might have scheduled Jill Biden (and potentially even Klownshow Harris) to draw Secret Service personnel away from Trump.
which makes perfect sense because Cankles wants revenge.
I agree. That SS drawdown allowed the insertion of members or paid mercenaries from other agencies. I’ll never forget the image of the guy pointing the rifle right at DJT as he was being hustled into the vehicle. He looked like he was weighing the idea of shooting him right then and there. Maybe it wasn’t anything but the optics were sketchy.
It also seemed to be from the same plan book for J6.
The investigation of this conspiracy may be what is drawing all the resources of the FBI and DOJ that some of us wish were investigating Covid vaxx plots, Jan 6 crimes, and other things more close to home.
But if they solve this one, I guess, and prosecute all the traitors, they can reverse most of what Biden did, which would be the greatest benefit to the country going forward.
I still don’t believe Epstein killed himself.
Speaking of the autopen scandal, GWP is on it with Rep Burchett alleging Biden staffers used autopen to sell pardons. Biden crimes are like Russian dolls, one within another within yet another.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/watch-rep-burchett-alleges-biden-staffers-used-autopen/
i think of them more like a spreading infection full of pus and odor.
eeewwwww, the russian dolls would be an easier to view meme. LOL
yes but really doesn’t capture the nasty, revolting essence of those surrounding him.
russian dolls have a certain charm.
Yep. Bye. Done. thought he was everybody’s Carb uncle…..
Fair point. I was thinking such dolls would need to be created as individual monstrosities that fit their crimes.
PALEEEASE….
In a couple hours I have to clean the abscess on my pony mare’s face. It keeps filling with nasty disgusting foul smelling gunk!
It is about 6″ long and lanced top and bottom but she is not about to allow me to flush it with betadine diluted in a sterile saline solution. She will allow an antibiotic cream to be smeared on.
So we have to press the gunk out of the abscess while evading thrashing front hooves…. 3 X a day. OH JOY!
This is what you actually get with that ranch.
Why don’t you hobble her?
Actually I was applying a twitch to her nose and to an ear. I can do it and get her to mind but my friend is too kind hearted to actually twitch her hard enough to get her attention and got a hoof to the arm as a result.
Tomorrow she gets sidelined. (Her favorite front hoof connected to a back hoof) Hobbling the front feet together will not do much.
Last resort is to throw her and sit on her neck a-la George Floyd.
Whenever I see weirdly appropriate names, I think Obama had his hand in their persona… Sneer a in Tandem?
And then there’s this creature…
https ://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1909730045251166263
this article (from nbc, so it’s slant is pro illegal) details how this administration is FINING illegals with deportation orders (meaning they already were in front of an immigration judge) for every day they remained after that. lots of sob stories and, of course, claims they never received the order. how convenient. some have overstayed since 2018.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/4500-migrants-told-pay-fines-ranging-18-million-rcna207958
Take their coats!
Quick update. Josiah’s in the ICU now. Rounds in the next hour or so. He’s mostly resting now. I really need sleep as up 20+ hours and exhausted. Please keep praying for us–thank you
Wow I thought I shared about his decision to accept blood on today’s post. During the night they said he needed to accept blood or there was only a 30% chance he’d survive 2 days w/ GI bleeding…
you did Val…up thread at 4:18 this morning. you’re exhausted–try to rest. we’re praying, you sleep if you can.
Thx Pat. I had to reload the page to see my comment. TY for praying!
We will keep praying for you both! You will both have to make tough medical decisions, and I think you made the right one. Don’t go with phantom fears – go with common sense.
Bleeding must be stopped fast. A bad tourniquet is worse than no tourniquet. Trauma training saves lives by making stopping bleeding the first priority.
Bear in mind that a little bit of highly diluted “clot shot” could be exactly what was needed. That deep decision is God’s job – not yours. Do the obvious stuff and let God take care of the rest.
Amen!


Valerie Curren
Please take care of yourself!
Hoping that things are OK in the ICU.
Prayers, Good Energy, Deep Healing, Deep Courage for you all are being sent.
Thank you, Gail!!! Hope the your husband is feeling better and that your “chores” are more easily overcome.
Amen!
https://joannenova.com.au/2025/05/new-ai-data-centers-will-use-the-same-electricity-as-2-million-homes/
So now we know why the elite relented on illegals.
https://shipwreckedcrew.substack.com/p/the-long-overdue-decriminalization
The Long Overdue Decriminalization of Regulatory Offenses Has ArrivedA New Trump Executive Order Takes Dead Aim
Excellent news! Trump is a VSG, and his administration is doing VSG things.
We are BLESSED. Yes! I said BLESSED! Praise God!
Marica_17 reposted
Buzz Patterson
@BuzzPatterson
BILL CLINTON & THE AF-1 FLIGHT ATTENDANT
This one truly IS “Dereliction of Duty.”
We were returning late one night from a long trip to Europe on AF-1, landed at Andrews, and helicoptered on Marine One to the White House. We landed on the South Lawn at about midnight and, after ensuring the president was on his way to his residence upstairs, I headed to my bedroom in the East Wing. Shortly thereafter, my phone rang and it was the AF-1 presidential pilot. “Buzz, we have a problem,” he said. Oh shit,” I thought.
Apparently, Clinton had cornered a female AF-1 steward in the galley and molested her. She was young, a staff sergeant, and married with children. I knew her, liked her, and she was super sweet. Now, she was in tears. I asked the pilot what she wanted. He told me that she didn’t want to be another “bimbo,” she wanted to remain in the Air Force and be promotable. All she wanted was an apology. In the world of Monica Lewinsky, Paula Jones, and Kathleen Willey, this wasn’t surprising to me. It was, however terribly disappointing and sad.
So, that morning, as a young major, I had to walk to the Oval Office and tell the commander-in-chief that he needed to apologize to the young lady. I’ve been shot at with hot metal but this was the toughest day in my life. I remember on my way to talk with him thinking “I didn’t sign up for this shit.”
Two weeks later, we got the two together onboard AF-1 in the president’s office and he offered a very uncontrite “half apology.” He didn’t care.
If anybody in the military had done that it would’ve been jail, expulsion, or both. It would’ve been Fort Leavenworth. But not for this president, not for this man. It was just another day. Yet another in my experiences working for a man with absolutely no integrity and no moral fiber.
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AF Major’s name? Date?
Decades later, the molested young lady, could come out.
Not if she’s still in the AF and wants to be respected by her troops. And who knows if she told her husband. Sad, but true.
Unless she did is doing 30 years, she is out of the AF.
Husband and family certainly a consideration. I don’t wish that stuff on any gal.
At some point, it would be nice if Slick Willy was taken to task, legally.
he IS still married to the beast…so at least he’s suffering,
LOL!!!
RIP NORM!

I think George Wendt was Norm, not the post office guy.
He was…that’s why Cliff is drinking alone.
Today…
“Minuteman III Test Launch Showcases Readiness of U.S. Nuclear Force’s Safe, Effective Deterrent”
https://www.vandenberg.spaceforce.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/4193615/minuteman-iii-test-launch-showcases-readiness-of-us-nuclear-forces-safe-effecti/
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Someone should have told them that “safe & effective” has become a somewhat sullied descriptor.
End Tribalism in Politics
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@EndTribalism
Some context for this
Last year, Tulsi Gabbard was secretly placed on a terrorist watch list called Quiet Skies by the Biden administration—with no explanation.
Many on the left accused her of lying.
Today, at a Senate hearing, Rand Paul confirmed he saw records proving she was indeed put on the list.
“Just last night, I received the first set of records from the department regarding Tulsi Gabbard’s placement on the TSA Quiet Skies watch list.”
“These documents confirm our suspicions.”
“Federal air marshal surveilled the now Director of National Intelligence during domestic flights in 2024, reporting back information related to her appearance and even how many electronics she was observed using.”
“Unfortunately, this is not an isolated case.”
IMO Obama’s Harpies did this! Susan Rice, Lisa Monaco, and Avril Haines. Did they use the Auto-Pen?
EACH DAY WE TAKE UP THE OFFENSIVE WEAPON OF THE WORD OF GOD – THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT – ONE VERSE OPENS THE DOOR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE CHAPTER MESSAGE
Verse of the Day for Wednesday, May 21, 2025
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“Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.”
Ephesians 6:10 (KJV)
COMMENTARY FOR EPHESIANS 6
(10-18) “Spiritual strength and courage are needed for our spiritual warfare and suffering. Those who would prove themselves to have true grace, must aim at all grace; and put on the whole armour of God, which he prepares and bestows. The Christian armour is made to be worn; and there is no putting off our armour till we have done our warfare, and finished our course. The combat is not against human enemies, nor against our own corrupt nature only; we have to do with an enemy who has a thousand ways of beguiling unstable souls. The devils assault us in the things that belong to our souls, and labour to deface the heavenly image in our hearts. We must resolve by God’s grace, not to yield to Satan. Resist him, and he will flee. If we give way, he will get ground. If we distrust either our cause, or our Leader, or our armour, we give him advantage. The different parts of the armour of heavy-armed soldiers, who had to sustain the fiercest assaults of the enemy, are here described…”
Commentary by Matthew Henry, 1710.
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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!
WE ARE FIGHTING A SPIRITUAL WAR OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL
PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD
Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.
I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.
I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.
Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.
May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.
With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.
Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me.
Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.
PLEASE PRAY FOR ABUSED, MISSING, AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN
BE MY VOICE
JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN
CHILD NOT CHOICE
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.
Amen.
PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER
MAPA = MAKE AMERICA PRAY AGAIN
THE POWER OF GOD
When confronted with impossible odds
With insurmountable bauds and frauds
We look to contemplation and reason
Inward outward no matter the season
After consideration of every option
The master chosen is the swaption
Of the world we should be but naught
Through daily struggles we get caught
We twist and turn aimlessly all about
Filled with anger anguish dastardly doubt
We are tossed in the storm of no return
For the Peace of the Lord we surely yearn
What can we do to detach and dispatch
The obvious outrageous moot mismatch
What have we done that we need to undo
What can we do to secure a breakthrough
What did we do at the start that went wrong
Why is it so hard and taking so long
Why do we struggle to figure it out
It all comes back to the matter of doubt
What did Thomas doubt that was unseen
What was he missing that should have been
Why did he hesitate when others believed
What did they have he had not received
We know the story of Thomas the doubter
Unfortunately some have played the flouter
Of little faith were Thomas and Matthew
By His Word we really did not have to
In Proverbs 3 – lies quality advice
The commands are simple and thrice
Trust – Lean Not – and do Acknowledge
The path made straight by pre-knowledge
Does faith precede you in all that you do
Is obedience without further ado
Do you take it up with Him first or last
Is your turmoil present or is it past
Does doubt deter and mesmerize your mind
Do you panic because you fell behind
Are you anxiety-ridden and far off course
Have you considered the unseemly source
When we dare to doubt the Power of God
We fail to trust – acknowledge – give Him laud
We think falsely there is naught He can do
Tho’ the impossible He can make anew
A time when we were too lost and tossed
It appeared the bridge could not be crossed
The mountain was much too high to mount
And problems were too numerous to count
Not so – not anymore – God is in charge
Man cannot solve worldwide turmoil at large
Much too soon the enemy took control
Before too long he’ll be in a blackhole
One man cannot right the wrongs worldwide
He can make changes with God by his side
When there appears to be no other way
The Power of God will – so let us PRAY!
D01: 04/22/2023
Thank You Duchess!
https://www.theqtree.com/2019/05/23/the-poetry-tree/#comment-1340609
Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing
#psalm91 #psalms #prayer
Pray Everyday
https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html
Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.
#faith #god #psalms
prayeveryday777
https://rumble.com/v57jvfg-sleep-well-with-psalms.-psalm-91-psalm-121-psalm-3-psalm-4-psalm-139.faith-.html
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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!


Wolf Moon and All —
The Health Friday post for this week is finished, and will publish just after Midnight on Friday morning.
Thank you.
Excellent! Thank you!!!!
Wolf Moon
IMO, Yours Truly has “exposed the soft underbelly” of a couple of recent news items regarding the HHS / NIH “Generation Gold Standard” announcement; and, the Prasad, Makary “opinion piece” (NOT) in the NEJM regarding the FDA / CDC “new approach” to the development and the (so to speak) “deployment” of COVID-19 “vaccines” in the United States.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/blind-justice-wednesday-may-21-2025
Good morning, C&C, it’s Wednesday! In today’s jam-packed roundup: a recap of our miraculous hearing in district court defending our PREP Act lawsuit against dismissal; media desperately tries covering for Biden’s ‘undiagnosed’ terminal prostate cancer but some remain skeptical; Fifth Circuit Appellate Judge slams Supreme Court in order packed with hilarious one-liners; neocons decry Trump’s quiet, unstoppable pulling out of the Proxy War; and more 2025 headlines of the absurd for your amusement and edification.
from the article:
As usual it is a VERY GOOD read.
I always find Jesse Watters’ opening statements to be interesting.
Top FDA Official Discloses She Never Received COVID-19 Vaccine
She is now working with MAHA. Her statements are below.
Good News Story & Right Pick too bad her concerns were not amplified during the COVID era.
Could have been a whistleblower of sorts. But, No, protect paycheck. Coward.
Exactly. She got to keep her job but I would have lost mine.
AND she is still saying dumb stuff like:
“…it will take a long time to figure out how events unfolded during the pandemic.”
Really? Where were you? The information about how it “unfolded” was everywhere, if you were paying any attention. Heck, she could go back to November 2019 and start reading QTree posts, and have the whole story right there!
Amen
Dr Brenner put her health above the health of the people of this country she swore to protect. She needs to loose her job .
This may of been shown before.
Hmmm.
That “added context” reads as if Deep Pharma are lying to protect themselves…….
In the “added context”:
“Vaccines containing these ingredients have been proven safe through decades of research and monitoring”
EXCEPT by an actual clinical trial against placebo, right?
No kidding.
Chasing a Heffalump…..
WARRIOR WEDNESDAY – DEDICATED TO STEVIE
RISE UP PRAYER WARRIORS
In the morning when you arise
Thank God for the lovely sunrise
Thank God you have the eyes to see
Thank God through Him you are set free
So many are suffering in various ways
From family problems to general malaise
From discouragement to deep depression
Hearts, minds, and souls suffer repression
Each day God asks you to boldly come
To the Throne of Grace and beat the drum
Sing Praise to our God – Sing Praise
To our Deliverer – Our voices we raise
God told us to pray unceasingly
Give Glory Honor and Praise to He
Bring our petitions and lift them up
So that all may drink from the Blessing Cup
When you are troubled the Body suffers
Take it to God and pray for others
When we reach out and pray for one another
We bless father mother sister and brother
Our own concerns become less of a bother
When we reach out and touch another
So Rise Up Prayer Warriors and shout
Defeat the enemy roundabout
Send him back to the dry places of doom
Back off and prevent his message of gloom
Declare your victory over all that prevails
Defeat his plan and all it entails
Our nation has been attacked mercilessly
Over a long span of time most relentlessly
It is time to defeat that father of lies
It is time for Prayer Warriors to rise
‘Go To The Quiet’ if it need be
To replenish and refresh on bended knee
You must be courageous and strong
To fight this battle all the day long
Rise Up Prayer Warriors and come to their aid
For many who are lacking let hope be staid
For those who are allegedly down and out
Sing Praise – Declare Victory – and Shout
Decked in your Armor fight the good fight
Send our enemy and his minions to flight
Give it your all and you will soon see
And taste the blessings of Victory!!!
D01: 11/18/2022
Thank You Duchess!
https://www.theqtree.com/2019/05/23/the-poetry-tree/#comment-1311273
Sounds like he’s going to get away it.
“It’s a Bit of a Distraction” – Jim Comey is Asked about the Plot in His New Book that Is Just like His Assassination Threat Against Trump (VIDEO) Jim Hoft May. 21, 2025 9:15 am 264 Comments
5.21.25: Golden DOME over AMERICA, The World FALLS if AMERICA FALLS, RFK Jr/Rubio exposing evil, PRAY!
And We Know
https://rumble.com/v6tog5t-5.21.25-golden-dome-over-america-the-world-falls-if-america-falls-rfk-jrrub.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
This is good. Trump is not pulling punches as he holds court in the White House with the President of South Africa.
This is really excellent how POTUS’s team cornered the South African delegation.
They are showing the videos of the politicians chanting “Kill the Boer, Kill the Farmer” during the Press conference.
The SA president has to listen to this, and his expression is truly uncomfortable.
BAD.ASS
This looks like a highlight reel, about 11 minutes:
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SA President says that he’s never seen it? Pretty sure we saw it several years ago when Lauren Southern did that documentary. That line of crosses we saw then has only grown since then.
I have a lot of favorite “President Trump” moments, but this one has to be top five. Maybe top three.
Im pleased w this. They can continue to lose share. Walmart is doing just fine. Dont blane the economy or tarriffs. Its YOU target.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/21/target-tgt-q1-2025-earnings.html
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So women and minorities have stopped shopping at Target because Target stopped DEI?
If so, this could be a crucial moment of opportunity to make a full pivot toward the white male demographic.
Just imagine if Target became the go-to store for white men.
Shoplifting and robbery would drop to practically zero.
The need for security would drop to practically zero.
The fear of frivolous lawsuits would drop to practically zero.
They could gain nearly exclusive access to half of the largest demographic in America.
And if women and minorities all go to Target’s competitors, who then have to deal with all of the problems and expenses that come with the other demographics, their competitors won’t be able to compete… they all go out of business, and Target wins
Omg… youd have to relabel the bathrooms “throne rooms” and get rid of the changing rooms and just make them into big midstore man caves for naps….w easy chairs…. the horror.
But we can do it… if we all pull together as a team

Lol. Dont forget a proper snack bar…. i mean if youre gonna do it, go all the way.
Ahhhh….. but Tim “the Toolman” Taylor and “Home Improvement” (and Al Borland) have it covered

To put it bluntly Target can F…k OFF and keep F…king off right off the edge of the flat earth they probably believe in.
I know they are no friends of MAGA, it was just an amusing mental exercise
The meeting w S.A. this morning was nothing but a lying sh show on the south african side. Deny all the deaths, then equivocation w black desths, and begging us for
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A man, a plan, and his DAW…..
As a side note, this 8-year-old video reveals the existence of Josh’s girlfriend at the time, “Imelda”….
Eric Daugherty
YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING! This is PBS. PUBLIC Broadcasting Service. Taxpayer-funded.
@EricLDaugh
Thank the LORD they are losing their funding under Trump.
Genocide is fine with the Left, they love it, so long as it happens to white people.
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
BREAKING: City-wide ICE raids in Los Angeles result in numerous high-profile arrests.
Arrests include an Iranian national charged with stealing more than $83 MILLION in Amazon goods and more than a dozen members of transnational gangs charged with cargo theft, kidnapping, and attempted murder.
Some of the gang members were in the US on false immigration papers and were receiving asylum benefits.
DEPORT THEM ALL
Great news!
“…and more than a dozen members of transnational gangs charged with cargo theft, kidnapping, and attempted murder.”
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These are members of gangs who tried to kill people, they wanted to… they just weren’t very good at it.
Nervous Corporate Sponsors Retreat from New York Pride
They should be afraid of boycotts. We need to keep up the pressure.
“afraid to be boycotted from either the left or the right”…stay out of it altogether.. Sell the goods…stop pandering.
What a novel concept! So edgy!
LOL it is !
Step one of operation “Put that shit back in the closet where it belongs.” Excellent.
Water Closet…
Lol, amen!
Libs of TikTok
@libsoftiktok
Democrat WA state Governor Bob Ferguson has signed a radical “Student Rights” bill into law that reportedly strips parents of the ability to obtain their child’s medical records, mental health records, records of discipline, or any student-specific file maintained by a school.
It also strips parents of the right to receive prior notification when medical services are offered to their child.
What is going on in Washington state??
The State is trying to take control over the children. Parents should be up in arms.
absolutely!
Especially when Canada just expanded their MAiD program (Medical Assistance in Death) to now allow children with mental concerns to be allowed into the program without parental consent as of just yesterday. This program once successful terminates with the patient’s death and parents just like in WA State, don’t get to know their kids are in the program that began with physical concerns and now does mental concerns as well for reasons to qualify for the program.
Since 2023 deaths in the program have grown from 1,018 a year to over 15,000 a year (4.7% of all deaths in Canada) for a total in 2023 of 60,301 deaths that have occurred since the program opened in 2016 with more deaths happening every year as more and more reasons are added for entry into the program.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_in_Canada (does not have recent update from yesterday that expands for children with out parental consent being added to the program)
Meanwhile Delaware has just allowed to be on the slippery slope of euthanasia as well just today.
Oh.. just looked it up. Washington also allows for Assisted Suicide as well. Seems like the progressives are slowly ramping this stuff up.
I wish the Constitution outlawed assisted suicide.
The Founders were sane, mostly religious men. I think suicide was anathema to them, and rare in their time.
I had the same thought. They wouldn’t have dreamed how depraved society would become.
Can you imagine if Thomas Jefferson was dropped into almost any American city today?
“Time Changer”, starring Gavin MacLeod has an interesting take on that. Here’s the trailer, but it doesn’t do justice to the film (odd, I know)…
I’ve seen it! I loved it! It’s from the people who make “The Chosen.”
It’s really thought-provoking, to the point of shocking…. to see how far things have changed in only 100 years…
“Common morality” has devolved into rampant insanity and perversity… and the milquetoast mainstream apostate churches have been standing idly by, pouring liberal gasoline onto the flames, assisted by the likes of Dewey, Mann, Rockefeller, and C. Emerson Fosdick, who jerked the mainline churches into the “fundamentalist” camp, when in fact they were nothing of the sort.
Same thing happens over here. And yet people wonder why the Mozzies are taking over

Canada is lost.
I remember when rebellion against dress codes was the hot issue.
Our state has been on this road to perdition for quite some time. But I have it on good authority that Ed Martin and friends are paying attention to us.
I would hope so. This really needs to get knocked down HARD in court. Nationwide, too.
Perverts are in control is what’s happening.
EVENING PRAYERS
Prayer For Grace At The End Of The Day
Heavenly Father, as the day is drawing to its close I ask that Your continued love and presence be with me and with all that are Your children in Christ. Guard us through the long hours of darkness this night I pray, and keep us safe from all harm and dangers that may try to cross our threshold.
Give us, I pray, an untroubled night of rest and quietness of heart. May we be refreshed and renewed in body, soul and spirit as we rest our weary hearts in You through the hours of the night.
Lord, I pray that by Your great grace and mercy, You would grant us untroubled sleep so that we may rise up in the morning strong to do Your bidding. May we all rejoice for the dawn of a new day, knowing that Your mercies are new every morning. In Jesus’ name,
Amen.
Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers
Prayer Of Reflection On The Past Day
Loving Lord, as the day is coming to an end, I want to thank You for being with me in all that has taken place today. I also want to lay the whole day before You, asking that you would show me if there is anything that I have done to hurt or harm another person unknowingly, or if I have done anything that is displeasing in Your sight, or quenched the work of the Spirit in me, so that I may turn away from such things in the days that lie ahead.
Lord, I desire to do Your will in all things. I pray that You would cleanse me of any wrong thoughts or attitudes that may have surfaced in my heart today. Wash me in Your cleansing flood, I pray.
Thank You, that You are a God who forgives our transgressions when we are willing to confess them to You, knowing that such cleansing before You immediately draws us back into sweet fellowship with Yourself.
Give me a good night’s rest I pray, and may I rest quietly in Your loving arms in the knowledge that in Christ, I am eternally secure, due to Your amazing grace, for which I praise You. In Jesus’ name,
Amen.
Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers
Prayer Of Thanksgiving In The Evening
Praise Your holy name Heavenly Father, for granting yet another day in my life and for being with me every step of the way. Thank You for the many blessings that You have provided and the love and fellowship that I have with the friends and family that in Your grace You have placed in my life.
My heart is so thankful for all the many blessings that I enjoy day by day, and today I am once again reminded that Your mercies are new every morning and Your faithfulness endures from generation to generation.
Thank You, that I have been brought into Your family and have been made a child of God and a citizen of heaven. Words cannot express my love and devotion to You Lord
I pray that You would watch over me as I rest tonight, and that You would give me a restful night’s sleep so that I may wake up in the morning refreshed in body and spirit and ready to do Your will. Guard all those that I love and may we all grow in grace and in a knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ in the days that lie ahead. This I ask in His precious name,
Amen.
Source: https://prayer.knowing-jesus.com/Evening-Prayers
Tim Burchett speaks after a briefing on the JFK assassination. I don’t think there’s any new information. I didn’t know these briefings were occurring.
In the comments to Burchett’s post, there’s a 1:26:18 video about the assassinations. I’m starting to watch it now.
I’m watching the 2nd video at the bottom of the post.
ENDS TODAY: US Request for Public Comments Regarding Technology Platform Censorship
https://interestofjustice.substack.com/p/ends-today-us-request-for-public
Good! Thank you!!!
Thanks.
Posted my thoughts. Will check back to see if it gets posted.
[DS] Took The Bait, Trapped, Fraud Vitiates Everything, Did Trump Reveal The Plan? – Ep. 3647
May 21, 2025 x22report
https://x22report.com/ds-took-the-bait-trapped-fraud-vitiates-everything-did-trump-reveal-the-plan-ep-3647/
The gas prices hit the lowest memorial day mark in four years, the prices will continue to drop. John Deere will be opening a plant in the US. Trump trapped the D’s and Rinos and he has all the leverage, planned a long time ago. The parallel economy is building. The [DS] took the bait, Trump had allowed the [DS] to overthrow the US Gov, installed a puppet government, now the [DS] is trying to separate themselves from Biden, but what they are doing is showing the D’s they lied and Biden wasn’t running the country. They are now trapped. This issue will be forced up to the SC, fraud vitiates everything. Did Trump just reveal the plan?
Ep 3647a -Did You See How Trump Trapped The D’s & RINOs? Planned A Long Time Ago, Golden Age
https://x22report.com/aiovg_videos/ep-3647a-did-you-see-how-trump-trapped-the-ds-rinos-planned-a-long-time-ago-golden-age/
Ep 3647b – [DS] Took The Bait, Trapped, Fraud Vitiates Everything, Did Trump Reveal The Plan?
https://x22report.com/aiovg_videos/ep-3647b-ds-took-the-bait-trapped-fraud-vitiates-everything-did-trump-reveal-the-plan/
LaMonica McIver Appears Before Judge on Federal Charges – Ordered to Surrender Firearms, Cannot Leave US – Faces EIGHT YEARS in Prison
She is fundraising off of this, blaming the ICE agents
CBS News reported:
There’s no way she would get 8 years in prison, but justice warrants a conviction and some punishment.
She is doing all the parlor tricks shes learned. When thats done all that s left is rayciss rayciss as shes vonvicted.
When asked a question on CNN, she started singing about fighting on. It’s so 1860s.
Actually she didn’t. But that’s funny.
Wow.
An “ambush” is an appropriate tactical move against an enemy. Good for Trump for having the testicular fortitude to use it.
Right!
I just love it when the leftist press criticizes Trump for doing the exact right thing.
Ambush or not, Trump highlighting the tragedy in South Africa Is Most Appropriate. It needs to stop AND those murdering citizens brought to justice.
One rancher in the Oval Office meeting said he sleeps within an electrified fence.
Uh, I sleep within two.
But I suspect his packs more of a whollop.
Now that IS interesting.
Electric fences are one of two methods of keeping cattle where they should be.
This is golden. Hilarious. Some or all of this may have been posted.
IIRC. A few weeks ago, Alito wrote a scathing response when SC took up the ACLU Emergency Request, having bypassed Fifth Circuit.
Now Judge Ho writes this slam to the Not SC.
ACLU is likely to get special attention from Fifth Circuit.
From Coffee and Covid.
Fifth Circuit Appellate Judge slams Supreme Court in order packed with hilarious one-liners;
At least one federal judge is pushing back, in a darkly amusing fashion, on the Supreme Court’s decision to stay Trump’s gang member deportation plan. Yesterday, Rolling Stone ran the story headlined, “Trump Judge Slams Supreme Court, Says Courts Are ‘Not a Denny’s’.” Displaying extraordinary judicial annoyance, Fifth Circuit Appellate Judge James Ho wrote a humdinger of an order castigating the Supreme Court’s decision.
There were too many good parts to include them all in today’s post. Read the whole thing for a laugh.
Judge Ho was the lead judge in a unanimous three-judge panel who entered the original decision denying a deportation stay that the Supreme Court reversed. Ho wasn’t so much upset about their stay (but not enthusiastic, either), as much as he was annoyed that the Supreme Court criticized him and his fellow judges for waiting 14 hours to rule on the ACLU’s emergency injunction motion.
Judge Ho, warming to his theme, began by criticizing the Supreme Court for its disrespect to the lower district judge, and not least of all to President Trump:
Next, including a snappy line destined for a thousand echoing quotations, he wrote that it wasn’t his job, or any other court’s job, to keep the Executive Branch under control:
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But it was the short deadline that bothered Ho the most. The Supreme Court waved aside the fact that the District Court had told the ACLU it would give the government one day (24 hours) to respond to the ACLU’s emergency motion, that it had filed just after midnight at 12:34 am. But around noon the next day, the ACLU gave the busy District judge an ultimatum—respond within 42 minutes or it would appeal to the Supreme Court.
The judge didn’t, couldn’t, meet the 42-minute deadline. So as promised, the ACLU appealed. The Supreme Court’s majority unnecessarily blamed its rare intervention on the District Court’s sloth, complaining that in 14 hours —counting from the midnight filing— it didn’t rule on the ACLU’s emergency motion. After reminding the Supremes how long they take to respond to emergency injunction motions (weeks and months), Judge Ho’s response to the 14-hour nonsense was not subtle:
Not a Denny’s! That’s gold. Judge Ho wondered whether the Supreme Court was creating a demanding new 14-hour response deadline for district courts. But if not, he wondered what it says about justice:
Ouch! And there was a lot more. Read it for edification and amusement.
It is often said that judges like Judge Ho on the Circuit Courts of Appeal are actually the most powerful judges in America, since the Supreme Court can only process a handful of appeals every year. So Judge Ho wasn’t just shouting into the whirlwind.
The Supreme Court deserved every bit of that withering criticism. It unfairly threw the district judge under the bus, just to create for itself an easy pretext to interfere in the case. Having said that, I should stress again that SCOTUS did not decide the merits. A new three-judge panel on the Fifth Circuit now has a chance to focus on the case, and if Judge Ho’s sentiments are any guide, the ACLU will be trying to dig itself out of a giant legal hole in the ground. It’s going to need a bigger shovel.
https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/blind-justice-wednesday-may-21-2025
That Denny’s line is one for the ages.
$1.99 they had to be out of their minds
It is the clerks and staff of the courts that are misusing their limited authority to act as agents for the judges. Instead, they are acting as if they are equals and they are doing the ‘autopen’ thing, knowing that the judges will not reveal the truth.
The clerks are out of control, not the judges as much. I don’t know how we rein them in without a whistleblower.
Back in the mid 90s, I discovered that judges’ signatures were being photocopied and reused on many opinions. At the time, it never dawned on me that the judges might not have ever seen the opinions that their signatures were on.
Free Speech Not welcome by many NIH staff pukes…
Excellent. The confrontation is on.
This shows just how bad American science is. I have tried to get that point across in all the things I’ve said, but this right here is so perfectly illustrative of the degree of brainwash in science.
Cute
Ringing Endorsement to Never vote Dumrat.
This is Cuomo throwing his hat in the ring for the 2025 Captain Obvious Award

He deserves every bit of punishment that is being thrown at him but meanwhile the Dems are using him as a sacrificial lamb.
Yup, currently it’s him, who will it be next?
The closer get to the truth on things the larger the lamb will become.
Tell us something we don’t know Andy.
At some point in 2024, John Deere said they were moving manufacturing Out Of The US.
Fast forward, John Deere embraces manufacturing in the US.
New slogan:
“Nothing runs like a Deere, in whichever way the wind is blowing.”
Looks like somebody wrote them a John Deere letter…

Lol.
Last I looked the top executives of Deere are not family, maybe even immigrants from India or something. I don’t remember now.
Great company. Didn’t foreclose on any equipment loans during the great depression. Were looking out for the farmers back then it seems. But now I think can’t service your own equipment, has to go into their shops. Other issues too.
Everything good eventually goes to shit, if there’s profit involved. Sad.
Looks entertaining, I guess it took a couple days to blow up into something big enough to cover:
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Interesting.
Would it technically be suicide if Epstein arranged for his cellmate to kill him?
If this theory is true and the guy did kill him, why isn’t anyone prosecuting him?
How would Patel and Bongino know whether there was a “suicide” arrangement between Epstein and the roommate? I doubt there would be any evidence of that. So if this theory were true, how would Patel and Bongino know anything beyond the physical evidence, which looks more like murder than suicide?
If the roommate killed Epstein, what’s the problem with telling the public?
I think there is a lot more to this.
“Would it technically be suicide if Epstein arranged for his cellmate to kill him?”
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Well, they (Dan & Kash) would have to have evidence that Epstein arranged his own murder. And then they would have to publicly say, with a straight face, that Epstein didn’t kill himself, knowing that Epstein had someone kill him, which is the same thing.
Which is too cute by half. Their credibility is still shot if that turns out to be the case.
Sticking with the idea that Christopher Wrey is behind some sort of blackmail / pressure campaign to keep the lid on this as principle or front man. Hillary had a lock box and theories have been she got that from FIB while Bill was President. It’s likely a large variety of things that can be released on a large body of people currently considered impeccable by the majority of Americans and release of information done selectively as in just Republicans could hurt the party and or country and these guys now have to keep their mouth’s closed.
“It’s likely a large variety of things that can be released on a large body of people currently considered impeccable by the majority of Americans…”
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Guess Americans need a wake up call, then.
I’m confident we’ll find a way to cope with the revelation that some of the people claiming to be on our side are dirty, and have to face justice
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“…and release of information done selectively as in just Republicans could hurt the party and or country and these guys now have to keep their mouth’s closed.”
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We know DJT has all kinds of dirt on the enemy as well, so he can play “if you release damaging information on one of ours, we release damaging info on three of yours“.
And DJT is in the Oval Office, his attackers are not — so he is dealing from a position of huge advantage.
“If this theory is true and the guy did kill him, why isn’t anyone prosecuting him?”
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Exactly.
Even if Epstein did arrange for someone to kill him, it’s still murder.
The whole idea that Kash & Dan say they looked at the government reports, as if the reports are above suspicion, is a non-starter.
The only way to have any credibility is to look at the evidence and the obvious holes, which are bigger than the Lincoln tunnel, with the ‘official story’, and either credibly explain them ALL away… or acknowledge the obvious, which is a criminal coverup.
Like the way Dan himself looked at the case, way back when he had his own podcast… you know, about 30 days ago
I agree. Apart from their titles and positions, both Patel and Bongino are individuals who think and investigate and find evidence. There’s no way that they merely looked at official reports and said “okay.” As you say, Bongino has been on the “Epstein didn’t kill himself” train all along, so I can’t imagine what reports could have said to convince him otherwise.
Yes, and the other ‘tell’ I forgot to mention, is when Kash deflected into pure and utter BS irrelevancies:
Patel (copied from transcript on youtoob video): “WELL, I MEAN, LISTEN OR, THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED AS A PUBLIC DEFENDER,”
Objection — your work as a public defender literally has nothing to do with whether Epstein killed himself. Totally irrelevant.
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Patel: “… AS A PROSECUTOR WHO’S BEEN IN THAT PRISON SYSTEM, WHO’S BEEN IN THE METROPOLITAN DETENTION CENTER,”
Objection — whether you have been in the Metro Detention Center, either at some time in the past, before Epstein died, or after Epstein died, is totally irrelevant.
It literally has nothing to do with anything…
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Patel: “…WHO’S BEEN IN SEGREGATED HOUSING,”
Objection: At the risk of repeating myself, whether you have ever been in segregated housing or not, is totally, materially and in every other conceivable way, IRRELEVANT!
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Patel: “…YOU KNOW A SUICIDE WHEN YOU SEE ONE, AND THAT’S WHAT THAT WAS. HE KILLED HIMSELF.”
Really man? You just know, huh? Is that why nobody does autopsies anymore, because sharp cops like you just know?
Is that how cops are doing all investigations now?
Why investigate anything at all — burglary, assaults, murders — if you guys just know it when you see one?
Why even collect evidence, or have trials, if you guys can solve crimes just by having ‘seen one’ before?
It’s so stupid, he shouldn’t be allowed to even say it without a laugh track.
He should be laughed out of the FBI after that performance
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Bongino: “He killed himself. I’ve seen the whole file. He killed himself.”
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That flushing sound you hear is Dan’s credibility going down the toilet.
Q: Who is credibly alleged to be covering up the real cause of death?
A: The government.
Now try to stay with me here, Danny.
Q: Where did that ‘whole file’ you’ve seen come from?
A: The government.
Now here’s where it all comes together, Dan.
IF the government is credibly alleged to be hiding something, or covering something up, if the government has means, motive and opportunity…
Can you rely on the ‘whole file’, or any part thereof, as true and legitimate information, if it’s coming from the same agencies that are credibly alleged to be engaged in the coverup?
Take your time Dan, I don’t want you to rush this one, it’s a toughie…