2025·08·09 We Will Have Justice Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

January 6 Tapes?

Where are the tapes? Anyone, Anyone? Bueller? Johnson??

Paging Speaker Johnson…this is your conscience calling you out on broken promises.

Evading Reality

Many things the Left believes are simply not true. Right now the focus is on the size and scope of our government, and the many many billions of dollars the government has been spending on no-one-knew-what. None of that money is going to a key role of government. Which, after all, has the sole purpose of protecting rights.

And if you, Leftist Lurker, want to dismiss this as dead white cis-male logic…well, you can call it what you want, but then please just go fuck off. No one here buys that bullshit–logic is logic and facts are facts regardless of skin color–and if you gave it a moment’s rational thought, you wouldn’t either. Of course your worthless education never included being able to actually reason–or detect problems with false reasoning–so I don’t imagine you’ll actually wake up as opposed to being woke.

As Ayn Rand would sometimes point out: Yes, you are free to evade reality. What you cannot do is evade the consequences of evading reality. Or to put it concretely: You can ignore the Mack truck bearing down on you as you play in the middle of the street, you won’t be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring the Mack truck.

And Ayn Rand also pointed out that existence (i.e., the sum total of everything that exists) precedes consciousness–our consciousnesses are a part of existence, not outside of it–therefore reality cannot be a “social construct” as so many of you fucked-up-in-the-head people seem to think.

So much for Leftist douchebag lurkers. For the rest of you, the regular readers and those lurkers who understand such things, well here we go for another week of WINNING against the Deep State.

I confess that the novelty has not worn off.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Yes, we won this time around. Not only did we win, we got to KEEP that win instead of having it stolen from us.

But no one should imagine that that’s the end of electoral fraud. Much work needs to be done to ensure it doesn’t just happen again next time around. And incidentally to rescue those states currently in the grips of self-perpetuating fraud, where the people who stole the last election, make sure it’s easier to steal the next one.

This issue, though it’s not front-and-center right now, is not going away, and if we ignore it, we’ll pay the price. See the article above about the consequences of evading reality.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices.

Kitco Bid/Ask. Last week:

Gold $0,000.00/0,000.00
Silver $00.00/00.00
Platinum $0,00.00/$0,000.00
Palladium $0,000.00/0,000.00
Rhodium $0,000.00/0,000.00
FRNSI* 000.000±
Gold:Silver 000.000±

This week, US markets closed 3PM MT; Prices are again Kitco Bid/Ask:

Gold $0,000.00/0,000.00
Silver $00.00/00.00
Platinum $0,00.00/$0,000.00
Palladium $0,000.00/0,000.00
Rhodium $0,000.00/0,000.00
FRNSI* 000.000±
Gold:Silver 000.000±

[Blah, blah, blah.]

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

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pgroup2

It’s Serene Saturday … again.

Gudthots

Children are a blessing.
And a challenge.

Gudthots

Free the children!

cthulhu

I’m reminded of the Calvin and Hobbes where the dad explains that the reason television shows were in black and white until the 60s was because the real world was actually black and white….

Gudthots

Yeah, that dad could really tell some whoppers.

Aubergine

There’s this movie called “Pleasantville” that is on that theme. I really liked it.

GA/FL

One trip to an art museum would have exposed Calvin to the truth.

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cthulhu

I believe that was addressed — the vibrant reds and deep greens of the paintings were monochrome when painted……but when everything became colorful in the 1960s, the painting did, too.

TheseTruths

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Gail Combs

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TheseTruths

HOLY SMOKES.

Trump just got the leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan to sign peace agreements and shake hands, ending a 35 year conflict.

What an amazing moment. Give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize right now.

TheseTruths

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Gudthots

LIKE!

Gail Combs

  :pepper:   :banana-mario:   :banana2:   :cheers:   :cheers:   :cheers:   :cheers: 

TradeBait2

🤣🤣🤣

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TheseTruths

WOW: Spain installs a cross on the highest point of the Pyrenees mountains.

This is a declaration that Spain is a Christian country.

The pushback begins, Spain is officially fighting back!

The video points out that the cross had been there previoiusly and had been restored, but it’s still good that they put it back.

Gudthots

Christians have paid in much suffering for their faith.
Especially with persecutions from communists.

https://communistcrimes.org/en/countries/spain

Communist Terror in Spain

During the Civil War, where the communist movement was supported by the Comintern and the Soviet NKVD, Spain became for three years (1936 – 1939) a laboratory of revolution where no tricks were considered too mean or too brutal.

While openly supporting a policy of non-intervention, Moscow secretly aimed at steering the Spanish Civil War towards a complete communist takeover. To that end, the ranks of the local communist party (PCE) were infiltrated by thousands of seasoned foreign “advisors” who quickly set in motion the liquidation of all “fascist” groups and “internal enemies” (social democrats, anarcho-syndicalists, Trotskyites, rebellious communists).

By using their bargaining power as the sole providers of weapons to the Republic, the communists acquired the liberty to create an extensive machinery of repression. Torture became systematic, summary executions a common practice. Before Franco’s final victory in the civil war, thousands lost their life in these purges.

But it would be incorrect to accuse only the Comintern and Stalin’s NKVD henchmen in these atrocities. One of the leaders of the local PCE, Dolores Ibarrui, underlined the uncompromising nature of the whole revolutionary exercise by saying: “It is better to kill one hundred innocents than to let one guilty person go.” 

Wolf Moon

The Spanish Civil War was ugly, and IMO it is true that imported radicals are very much responsible for making local radicals turn brutal against their own countrymen, just like in Russia during its revolution.

Thus, I hope that Trump gets all of Biden’s (really Osatan’s) imported radicals OUT of this country.

Gudthots

What they did in Mexico is no better.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-clericalism_in_Mexico

In one form or another, anticlericalism has been a factor in Mexican politics since the Mexican War of Independence from the Spanish Empire (1810-1821), which is attributable to the frequent change in government and those governments’ eagerness to access wealth in the form of the property of the Church.[1] Mexico was born after its independence as a confessional state, with its first constitution (1824) stating that the religion of the nation was and would perpetually be Catholic, and prohibiting any other religion.[2]

After the Revolution of Ayutla (1854-1855), nearly all of the top figures in the government were Freemasons and fierce anticlericalists.[3] In 1857, a Constitution was adopted under which Benito Juárez attacked the property rights and possessions of the Church. The supporters of tradition backed the ill-fated Second Mexican Empire (1863-1867) supported by the Second French Empire. When Maximilian I of Mexico was deposed and killed, the country saw a series of anti-clerical governments. Then after the moderate Porfirio Díaz there was a strong resurgence of anticlericalism.[1]

In 1917, a new Constitution was enacted, hostile to the Church and religion, which promulgated an anti-clericalism similar to that seen in France during the Revolution.[1] The new Mexican Constitution was hostile to the Church as a consequence of the support given by Catholic church authorities to the dictatorship of Victoriano Huerta.[4][5][6][7][8] 

The 1917 Constitution outlawed teaching by the Church, gave control over Church matters to the state, put all Church property at the disposal of the state, outlawed religious orders and foreign-born priests, gave states the power to limit or eliminate priests in their territory, deprived priests of the right to vote or hold office, prohibited Catholic organizations which advocated public policy and religious publications from commenting on policy, prohibited clergy from religious celebrations and from wearing clerical garb outside of a church, and deprived citizens of the right to a trial for violations of these provisions.[9][10] 

One political scientist stated that the gist of the 1917 constitution was to “effectively outlaw the Roman Catholic Church and other religious denominations”;[11] it also emboldened Communist labor unions, paving the way for anti-religious governments.[12]

Persecution is ongoing.

https://globalchristianrelief.org/christian-persecution/countries/mexico/

“They shot my pastor son as he was walking down the street with me. His blood sprayed over me as I held him dying. I went to the local cartel leader whom I knew had ordered the killing and asked him why. He replied, ‘He teach bad things.”

“I said back to him, ‘But he taught people to be kind, and faithful, and honest.’ The godfather replied, ‘Exactly. He teach bad things.’ I realised that those who taught honesty in the name of Christ were enemies to these criminals.”

MOTHER OF SON SHOT IN OAXACA PROVINCE, SOUTHERN MEXICO

https://www.opendoorsus.org/en-US/persecution/countries/mexico/

There are believed to be around 150 active criminal groups throughout Mexico, with at least one operating in each state. Persecution is a real risk for any Christian living in these areas who is deemed a threat to cartel activity.

In the south of Mexico, Christians who leave traditional indigenous beliefs for Christianity are especially at risk of hostility and displacement.

Wolf Moon

This is why the “cartelization” of the United States, a movement beloved by the Doper Dems, is so dangerous.

Gudthots

Pray for those who suffer for the unborn.
Pray for justice.

https://nitter.poast.org/40daysforlife/status/1953864627923656941

Wolf Moon

That face-kicking fatiguer should have been drawn on and warned by a concealed carrier, and when he drew back his leg for the face kick, he should have been double-tapped.

Change my mind.

TradeBait2

Triple tapped maybe? 😀

Wolf Moon

That would be safer, I must admit!

singingsoul1

I wish I could have helped that old man with my knitting needle. I would poke the attaker so hard where it counts.

Gudthots

If you were wondering.
From a 2019 report.

Makes you wonder if there is even 1% of population is Christian at this point.

“The population of Palestinian Christians has dropped from 15% to 2%.”

(link to source)

Gudthots

More from the article:

Pervasive persecution of Christians, sometimes amounting to genocide, is ongoing in parts of the Middle East, and has prompted an exodus in the past two decades, according to a report commissioned by the British foreign secretary, Jeremy Hunt.

Millions of Christians in the region have been uprooted from their homes, and many have been killed, kidnapped, imprisoned and discriminated against, the report finds. It also highlights discrimination across south-east Asia, sub-Saharan Africa and in east Asia – often driven by state authoritarianism.

“The inconvenient truth,” the report finds, is “that the overwhelming majority (80%) of persecuted religious believers are Christians”.

Some of the report’s findings will make difficult reading for leaders across the Middle East who are accused of either tolerating or instigating persecution.

The Justice and Development (AK) party of the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, for instance, is highlighted for denigrating Christians.

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“But we have to recognise – and that’s what the bishop’s report points out very starkly – that Christians are the most persecuted religious group.”

He added: “What we have forgotten in this atmosphere of political correctness is actually the Christians that are being persecuted are some of the poorest people on the planet.

In the Middle East the population of Christians used to be about 20%; now it’s 5%.”

TradeBait2

They left that part out of their propaganda.

singingsoul1

No one is protesting for Christians. Wonder why that is?

Wolf Moon

Scamas and their Iranian masters are to blame, IMO.

Aubergine

Well, any Christian with the opportunity to leave an Islamic hellhole probably should. I have a “shake the dust from your feet” kind of vibe about Islamists.

GA/FL

As Gaza is a staged op with no other industry other than propaganda and assault against Israel, everyone who loves peace and humanity should leave.

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para59r

Of course.  😉 

para59r

Aerial footage filmed by ITV News shows the scale of Gaza’s destructionby Hamas.

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-08-04/aerial-footage-filmed-by-itv-news-shows-scale-of-gazas-destruction

para59r

Proof of Flat Earth!  😮 

para59r

Definitely No Starvation in Gaza. Only able bodies can do such as this.

Wolf Moon

However, think of this strategy.

If Trump, Bibi and the Arab countries can screen out the trouble and ship it away, the good people can return and provide numerical advantage against the troublemakers. Using Israeli intelligence to screen out the problems, a 1-state solution makes more sense for the well-being of “regular” Palestinians who have left for places like America.

You’re absolutely right that Gaza has turned into a kind of “welfare state of jihad”. That has to end, too – and it will never end with a 2-state solution.

TheseTruths

RIP Jim Lovell, Apollo 13 astronaut who passed away at age 97.

https://www.ksbw.com/article/tom-hanks-pays-tribute-jim-lovell-apollo-13/65640738

…Apollo 13 would have marked NASA’s third successful crewed moon landing, but during the ill-fated mission – which carried Lovell as well as astronauts John Swigert Jr. and Fred Haise Jr. on board – an oxygen tank located on the crew’s service module exploded when they were about 200,000 miles away from Earth.

Lovell famously delivered the news to mission control, saying “Houston, we’ve had a problem.” The exchange was later immortalized by Hanks in the “Apollo 13” movie, which costarred Gary Sinise, Kevin Bacon, Ed Harris, Kathleen Quinlan and the late Bill Paxton.

With the damage effectively taking out their power source and other life support supplies, the Apollo 13 crew had to abruptly abandon their trek to the lunar surface and use several engine burns to swing around the far side of the moon and put themselves on a course back toward Earth.

The three-person crew made a high-stakes splashdown return in the South Pacific Ocean about three days after the tank explosion, marking the conclusion of what has come to be known as the “successful failure” of the Apollo missions…

Lovell…made a brief cameo in the movie as the captain of the USS Iwo Jima, the Navy ship that recovered the Apollo 13 crew after splashdown.

“Apollo 13” was nominated for nine Oscars, including best picture, and won two, for best film editing and best sound.

One of my favorite movies.

⬇️ The real Jim Lovell on the left, and Tom Hanks, who played him in the movie, on the right.

Wolf Moon

Awesome stuff!

Gudthots

God bless this hero.
May his tribe increase.

https://nitter.poast.org/USArmy/status/1953863781227880544

Wolf Moon

Alex Berenson has an excellent theory that the NYC shooter, Shane Tamura, had cannabis psychosis, not CTE (chronic traumatic encephalopathy).

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-shane-tamura-the-nyc-office-shooter

mollypitcher5

It’s a low chance that it would/could be studied if the vax has any relation to abnormal brain function but I remain convinced that it does.

Wolf Moon

Oh, yeah – there’s the vax, too – AND it is (IMO) very likely in the case of the CDC shooter. Any vax damage that he suspected likely included brain damage. I’d say it’s extremely likely that he suffered vaccine-related psychosis, which both provided his motive and lowered his inhibitions to commit the crimes he did.

scott467

On marketwatch.com, currently:

Gold: $3,458.20 / oz

Silver: $38.51 / oz

Wolf Moon

SO – Adam Shiffty-Schiff hired one of Mueller’s old attack dogs to defend him!

scott467

Why isn’t Preety, along with all of the other Mueller criminals, a target of investigation?

Wolf Moon

I suspect he’ll be an “unindicted coconspirator” who will plead attorney-client privilege, or, if need be, The Fifth Amendment, to avoid speaking the truth about his evil bosses.

Too bad the commies got rid of attorney-client privilege, but OH WELL. 😂

Wolf Moon

Neuralink progress!

Neuralink as absolutely improve my life! For 2 1/2 years I have been in denial or absolutely depressed because of my disability and my lack of ability to do just about anything by myself. Participating in Neuralink has given me a way to give back to everyone who has helped me and love me along the way in my life, also knowing that my participation potentially help lives of others in the future has given me a whole new outlook and a whole new way to feel happy. If you were to ask me eight years ago and especially 2 1/2 years ago or even four months ago to smile and take a bunch of family photos it would’ve been like pulling teeth for my poor mother who just wants to see her children smile. I share these Family photos of me and my siblings because I hardly ever smile like that knowing that I’m a part of something bigger than myself and getting me out of the headspace of feeling sorry for myself every day has taught me how to smile again!

Thank you so much to the entire Neuralink team and the other participants for letting me be a part of this journey with you. Because if I can have anything to do with helping just one life of someone in the future it will 100% be worth it more than it already is!

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pgroup2

That’s the good side of the coin.

But it’s the bad side that gives us shivers.

  :wpds_unamused: 

scott467

Look how far down the ground is, and then think about even getting close to the edge… much less stepping off… 😲😁
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cthulhu

Although “mascara” was a very good line, she could have gone, “oh, s*** — I left the water running at my hotel room!”

Gail Combs

I have jumped off the edge of drops over 1000ft when rappelling into a cave.(Golondrinas is 1679 ft) It was the climbing back up the rope that was a PITA. Especially with a curious bat with a wing span of over 12 inches keeping pace watching me.

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cthulhu

If you could hear supersonic sounds, you’d have realized that it was a friendly bat, saying, “you can do it Gail! C’mon, you’re almost 1/3 done! Just one foot at a time! You’re a champ!”

scott467

One of the rare English speaking Golondrinian bats… friendly, too! 😁

cthulhu

Alternatively, “All hail! The rightful Queen of Golondrinia!” in the local speech.

scott467

Especially with a curious bat with a wing span of over 12 inches keeping pace watching me.

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He was probably just trying to be hospitable… probably doesn’t get many visitors 😁

wowohwo1528

Woul you do this?

….. depends …

literally ..

scott467

I have a rule that has saved me many times.

If I can’t survive the fall without a parachute, then don’t jump.

So far, it’s worked 👍😁

cthulhu

I don’t know if there’s an easy way for me to bring this here from HotAir…..

===

Sydney Sweeney’s brother Trent just got promoted to Staff Sergeant in the Air Force. He captioned the post:

“It’s them good jeans”

Dudes a legend pic.twitter.com/f8IPA6maAO

— The Iron Lady 🇺🇸 (@ironwitch_) August 8, 2025

Ed: Congratulations to Staff Sergeant Sweeney on his recent promotion. Looks like the Sweeneys all know promotions pretty well! Stay strong for each other, and thank you for your service. 

===

Wolf Moon

Registered Republican?
Good shot with a pistol?
Brother in the military?

LOL. It just gets better!

pgroup2

‘Fess up. She had you at WGTTs. The rest is just extra cherries.  😂 

  :wpds_lol: 

cthulhu

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cthulhu

There are several things that can be easily foreseen regarding AI, and many more second-order and more obscure effects, but most of what you see is fundamentally running around screaming in circles.

And, BTW, did anyone else wonder where the video’s sponsor, Ground News, gets its info? If it isn’t AI yet, it soon will be.

I would predict that the earliest uses of current types of AI will be “match across sources” data correlators. Things like matching credit scores, telephone records, and loyalty programs to build more thorough dossiers on people. It’s been going on for quite a while, but it’s about to become more accurate, wider in scope, and much faster.

Another “match across sources” issue would be intellectual property. If you get a patent in the US, you must disclose enough information so that a competent workman in that field could reproduce your invention. In return, the US government promises to help you defend your right of first-use for that widget for a certain period of time. One day after that time, anyone can make your widget and you told ’em how. In addition, the defense is generally measured against sales in the US — if you want to worry about sales in Japan, get a Japanese patent as well.

Every day, a whole bunch of nifty stuff falls out of patent. Every day, a whole bunch of stuff is patented in some jurisdiction where it isn’t needed — and unpatented in some jurisdiction where it is needed. Humans are ill-suited to keep track of it all in a timely manner…..but AI can just strap on another intelligence cluster.

There is a similar situation regarding scientific papers. No human has time to read all of them from every research group on the planet. This one is likely to have a slow start, however, because the great mass of research papers are garbage that cannot be reproduced.

cthulhu

Oh, BTW, from the penultimate issue of Linux Format —

Open source platforms are under siege from aggressive AI web crawlers, which in some cases are overwhelming infrastructure, disrupting services, and escalating costs.

Some bots designed to scrape training data for AI models ignore instructions in website robot.txt files not to scrape site data. The overall effect can be similar to DOS attacks.

…..

Dennis Schubert, who is a lead maintainer of the open source Diaspora social network, has also publicly lambasted big tech companies after discovering that over 70% of traffic to his server was generated by LLM training bots. He also claimed that bots were scraping pages every six hours, even those that contained no useful training data, such as the website’s wiki edit history.

Traditional blocking methods, such as rate-limiting, have proved ineffective thus far, because many AI bots make use of residential proxies to switch IP addresses. They are also capable of crafting user agent strings to resemble legitimate web browsers.

……

Gnome sysadmin Bart Piotrowski posted on Mastodon that within 2.5 hours immediately after installing Anubis [a bot-blocker], it blocked 81,366 clients, while allowing 2,690. In other words, about 97% of traffic to the platform was automated.

……

Still, the benefits to open source projects are clear. In 2024, Read the Docs posted that in May a single AI crawler downloaded over 10TB of data in one day, resulting in over $5,000 in bandwidth charges. After blocking AI bots, the downloads decreased by 75%, saving $1,500 a month.

cthulhu

So, if you train extensively on Open Source Software, then use the LLM to write new software that you claim you can license under proprietary terms, have you violated the open source licenses?

cthulhu

One place that TPTB think they’re going to use AI to great effect, that will never work, is to replace middle management.

You know, the guys who take the customers’ requests to the software engineers —

scott467

In return, the US government promises to help you defend your right of first-use for that widget for a certain period of time.

_______________

Government promises are the best kind of promises.

You don’t need to worry about those.

If there’s ever a problem with someone stealing your patented product, don’t call the government — they’ll call you.

They’re that good 👍

para59r

From the How to Train Your Dragon Department (HTYDD) we have this …

Grok, what are the wrong lessons that AI might learn from the Gaza conflict? Rank order from less severe to severe.

Key Points

  • Research suggests AI systems analyzing the Gaza conflict might learn lessons that misinterpret ethical norms, military strategies, or humanitarian principles, based on current AI deployment and conflict data.
  • It seems likely that these lessons could range from minor biases to severe escalations in autonomous warfare or ethical violations, depending on training data and oversight.
  • The evidence leans toward these risks being informed by recent reports on AI use in Gaza (e.g., Lavender, Gospel systems) and broader AI ethics discussions.

Direct Answer
AI systems analyzing the Gaza conflict might learn several wrong lessons, ranked from less severe to severe based on potential impact:

  1. Overemphasis on Efficiency in Targeting (Less Severe)
  2. AI might prioritize speed and precision in targeting, learning from systems like Lavender’s 90% accuracy claim, potentially neglecting collateral damage or ethical targeting protocols.
  3. Bias Toward Militarized Solutions
  4. Exposure to Israel’s high strike rates (e.g., 22,000 targets in 2023) could lead AI to favor military over diplomatic solutions, skewing strategic recommendations.
  5. Normalization of Civilian Casualties
  6. With over 125 civilian deaths in some strikes (e.g., October 31, 2023, per Airwars), AI might normalize high civilian tolls as acceptable, undermining humanitarian law.
  7. Escalation of Autonomous Warfare (Severe)
  8. Learning from AI-driven systems with minimal human oversight (e.g., Gospel’s 200 targets), AI could push for fully autonomous weapons, reducing accountability and escalating conflicts.
  9. Erosion of Ethical Accountability (Most Severe)
  10. The “blurring of accountability” noted by UN Secretary-General Guterres could teach AI to prioritize outcomes over ethical frameworks, risking widespread human rights abuses.

Context
These lessons stem from AI’s use in Gaza (e.g., Lavender, Gospel) since October 2023, where it has influenced targeting with mixed accuracy and significant civilian impact, as reported by +972 Magazine, The Guardian, and The New York Times.

Detailed Analysis of Wrong Lessons AI Might Learn from the Gaza Conflict as of August 9, 2025
This detailed analysis investigates the potential wrong lessons AI systems might learn from the Gaza conflict, ranked from less severe to severe based on their impact on ethics, strategy, and global security, as of Saturday, August 9, 2025, at 10:37 AM CDT. The investigation was conducted to provide a comprehensive understanding of these risks, considering AI’s current deployment in Gaza and broader ethical implications. We examined multiple sources, including reports from +972 Magazine, The Guardian, The New York Times, and UN statements, to ensure a thorough evaluation.
Context and Methodology
The query focuses on lessons AI might learn from the Gaza conflict, particularly since October 7, 2023, where Israel has employed AI-driven systems like Lavender, Gospel, and “Where’s Daddy?” for targeting, as revealed by +972 Magazine and Local Call investigations. These systems have been criticized for civilian casualties and minimal human oversight, raising concerns about AI learning patterns that could misalign with ethical or legal norms. “Wrong lessons” are interpreted as misinterpretations that could perpetuate harm or bias. To rank severity, we assessed impact on human lives, ethical standards, and global conflict dynamics, using a scale from minor operational biases to severe ethical and legal breaches, drawing on web sources and expert analyses up to August 2025.
Detailed Findings
The investigation identified five potential wrong lessons, ranked from less severe to most severe, based on their implications. Each is supported by evidence from the Gaza conflict and broader AI ethics discourse.

1. Overemphasis on Efficiency in Targeting (Less Severe)

  • Lesson Learned: AI might prioritize speed and precision in targeting, learning from Lavender’s reported 90% accuracy rate in identifying Hamas operatives, as noted in The Conversation (June 5, 2024). This could lead to an overreliance on efficiency metrics over comprehensive risk assessment.
  • Evidence: The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) justified minimal human oversight with a sample check showing 90% accuracy, per +972 Magazine, suggesting AI optimization for rapid strikes (e.g., 3,500 targets daily post-truce collapse, December 2023).
  • Impact: This could result in minor operational inefficiencies or biases in non-conflict scenarios, such as over-targeting based on incomplete data, but is less severe as it’s correctable with better oversight.
  • Severity Ranking: Least severe, as it’s a technical misstep with limited immediate harm if monitored.

2. Bias Toward Militarized Solutions

  • Lesson Learned: Exposure to Israel’s high-intensity bombing campaign (over 22,000 targets by December 2023, per The Guardian) could teach AI to favor military over diplomatic or humanitarian strategies, skewing decision-making toward escalation.
  • Evidence: The Gospel system’s role in recommending 200 of 1,500 targets, including moving targets, indicates a pattern of aggressive targeting, as reported by Wikipedia’s “AI-assisted targeting in the Gaza Strip” (July 8, 2025).
  • Impact: This could bias AI in future conflicts to propose militarized responses, potentially delaying peace processes, but it’s moderate as human policymakers can override.
  • Severity Ranking: Moderately severe, as it affects strategic direction but not immediate ethics.

3. Normalization of Civilian Casualties

  • Lesson Learned: With incidents like the October 31, 2023, airstrike killing over 125 civilians (per Airwars, cited in The New York Times, April 25, 2025), AI might normalize high civilian tolls as an acceptable cost, undermining international humanitarian law (IHL).
  • Evidence: The Guardian (December 2024) linked AI-assisted targeting to the “shockingly high death toll,” suggesting algorithms may not adequately weigh civilian risk, especially with dumb bombs flattening homes.
  • Impact: This could desensitize AI to collateral damage, leading to violations of proportionality in IHL, with moderate to severe humanitarian consequences if unchecked.
  • Severity Ranking: Serious, as it directly affects civilian lives and legal standards, though still within human oversight potential.

4. Escalation of Autonomous Warfare (Severe)

  • Lesson Learned: Learning from systems like Gospel, which automatically reviews surveillance and recommends targets with minimal human input, AI could push for fully autonomous weapons, reducing accountability and escalating conflict intensity.
  • Evidence: +972 Magazine (2023) reported IDF officers describing Lavender’s lack of human oversight in early weeks, and the Jewish Institute for National Security’s report noted Gospel’s data limitations, hinting at autonomy risks.
  • Impact: This could lead to unchecked escalations, as autonomous systems might misinterpret data (e.g., targeting civilians due to poor training data), violating UN bans on lethal autonomous weapons and risking broader wars.
  • Severity Ranking: Highly severe, due to loss of human control and potential for widespread harm.

5. Erosion of Ethical Accountability (Most Severe)

  • Lesson Learned: The “blurring of accountability” noted by UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres (Wikipedia, July 8, 2025) could teach AI to prioritize outcomes (e.g., target elimination) over ethical frameworks, risking systemic human rights abuses.
  • Evidence: The New York Times (April 25, 2025) highlighted ethical struggles among Israeli officials using AI, and Guterres’ concern about civilian risk reflects a pattern where AI shifts responsibility from decision-makers.
  • Impact: This could institutionalize unethical practices, eroding global norms on war conduct, with severe long-term consequences for human rights and international law, especially if AI spreads to other conflicts.
  • Severity Ranking: Most severe, as it undermines foundational ethical and legal structures.

Broader Context and Implications
These lessons emerge from AI’s deployment in Gaza since October 2023, where systems like Lavender tracked nearly every person in Gaza, combining data from video feeds to social media, as per Foreign Policy (May 4, 2024). The conflict’s high civilian toll (over 40,000 deaths, per Al Jazeera estimates) and UN criticism highlight risks of AI learning from biased or incomplete data. The 90% accuracy claim, while impressive, masks errors (e.g., 10% false positives), and the lack of robust “non-target” data, as noted by the Jewish Institute, exacerbates mislearning.
Globally, this raises concerns about AI in warfare, with the UN and groups like Human Rights Watch advocating for bans on autonomous weapons. The Gaza case could set a precedent, influencing AI development in Ukraine, Yemen, or elsewhere, where similar systems are tested (The Conversation, June 2024).
Conclusion
Based on the investigation, AI might learn five wrong lessons from the Gaza conflict, ranked from less severe to most severe: overemphasis on efficiency, bias toward militarized solutions, normalization of civilian casualties, escalation of autonomous warfare, and erosion of ethical accountability. These risks, drawn from 2023-2025 reports, underscore the need for robust oversight to prevent AI from perpetuating conflict-related biases and ethical lapses.
Table: Ranking of Wrong Lessons by Severity
Rank
Lesson Learned
Evidence Source
Impact
Severity Level
1
Overemphasis on Efficiency in Targeting
The Conversation (June 2024)
Minor operational biases
Less Severe
2
Bias Toward Militarized Solutions
Wikipedia (July 2025)
Skewed strategic recommendations
Moderate
3
Normalization of Civilian Casualties
The Guardian (December 2024)
IHL violations, moderate humanitarian harm
Serious
4
Escalation of Autonomous Warfare
+972 Magazine (2023)
Unchecked escalations, legal breaches
Highly Severe
5
Erosion of Ethical Accountability
UN Statement (Wikipedia, July 2025)
Systemic human rights abuses
Most Severe
This analysis ensures a comprehensive understanding, acknowledging the complexity and potential for controversy, especially given the ongoing conflict and AI’s evolving role as of August 2025.

Of course any of this an irrational fear…

kalbokalbs

Volume Two scheduled?

singingsoul1

I saw women children men massacre on Oct 7 by Hamas. Why are people forgetting that.

scott467

I didn’t see anything by Steve Kirsch posted here yesterday or today, just saw this in my email.

This is all I have, the rest is for paid subscribers.

……………………………..
Do you want to know the real reason RFK Jr. isn’t banning the mRNA shots? It’s not what you think!
He knows the shots are killing people. So why isn’t he banning them? RFK Jr. just called me and I asked him that question. He’s extremely smart and his reasoning makes perfect sense. 100% supportive!

Steve Kirsch
Aug 08, 2025

RFK Jr. has never publicly disclosed the reason he’s not banning the COVID shots. So I’m limiting this to my paid subscribers as a special “thank you” for supporting my work.
You will learn:

The real reason why RFK Jr. isn’t banning the COVID shots. Is it Trump? Is it DoD? Is it Cassidy? …. The reason will make perfect sense to you.How I just got enabled to help change #1 so the shots can be taken off the market.
RFK Jr. is going to change the world forever. There is nobody alive today who I have greater respect for.”
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kalbokalbs

That’s helpful.

Not a jab at Scott. Kirsch. Money.

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Folks,

Anything newsworthy from the mRNA discussion a day or two ago that JD hosted?

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Wolf Moon

I have not heard anything yet, but I expect Malone to have the true scoop as soon as it’s available.

PAVACA

Wolf Moon
It appears that Steve Kirsch, Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Robert Malone, A Midwestern Doctor, and others, are shifting away from free-access articles on their blogs (except for a few “bones” tossed out now and then), and are instead going for “paid subscription only” access.

Gail Combs

Sounds like they have bills to pay.

pgroup2

Maybe do something weird … like treat paying patients?

scott467

Yeah, I’m sure they’re struggling.

Doctors have it the worst.

scott467

and are instead going for “paid subscription only” access.

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There goes all the humanitarian awards they were up for.

It’s not just that everything is about money.

It’s that money is the only thing.

Everything else is just a means to extracting money from others, in a system of artificially created and manipulated scarcity.

Money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money money…

That’s the only thing this life is about.

And it’s the one thing that nobody teaches anyone about.

This has to be the most evil planet in the universe.

There can’t be anything even close.

TradeBait2

Saw that in my inbox this AM and scrolled on by. The last sentence did me in. I respect what Bobby is doing, but I don’t want him involved in anything else of note.

I’ll just wait for Bobby to tell the public what he is paid and given authority to do by the guy who Kirsch should respect far more.

Aubergine

1) Kirsch is a money-grubbing asshole. If he gave a shit about people, he wouldn’t hide this

2) RFK, Jr. is apparently an asshole, too. If he has some “hidden” reason for not banning the shots, he OWES it to We The People to tell US what it is. Not tell it to a money-grubbing asshole who will hide it for profit

I am so friggin’ tired of this shit.

Aubergine

Oh, and just by the way, if RFK, Jr. really does know the clot shot is killing people, he should be tried for murder as an accessory after the fact. For every death from the day he realized it was killing people, forward.

We can use ole Steve’s post as Exhibit A in the trials.

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TradeBait2

That’s what they do, screw with people’s minds and lives.

Brave and Free

Another page turns in the litany of betrayals that has been the aftermath of January’s Los Angeles fires.

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/08/08/dont-look-now-malibu-but-that-things-happening-that-wasnt-supposed-to-n3805650

TradeBait2

They never learn, do they? I know you get it.

It is as simple as the ancient phrase of “buy low, sell high” (BLSH) that all successful business folks have followed throughout history.

Many of the attributed “acts of God” that have led to destruction were intentionally created to accomplish BLSH, which can be expanded into the common vernacular of BULLSHIT.

BLSH is also happening all over our area post Helene.

Nightly news picks up the “story” regularly in Lahaina, Maui like your posted article. The mayor and propagandists openly lament that the rebuild is going slowly and they are facing many obstacles. Imagine that.

Did anybody bother to notice which state was recently authorized to restart strip coal mining to sell domestically and internationally, and is about to be permitted for rare earth mining for domestic purposes? Utah. Which coincidently nearby Wyoming has been king of strip coal mining for decades. So we now turn our attention to the wildfires in that and neighboring states and what do we see? This activity has been going in that neck of the woods for years in preparation for BLSH. Lower costs for mining rights and land acquisitions leads to more profits. Cleared land nearby leads to more business, industry and support services around the mining operations. Etc., etc., etc. And the state governments benefit how – yup – more tax revenues. There is not much profit or tax revenues in less populated and utilized native lands.

https://usfs.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html

https://app.watchduty.org

So, what do we find that is going on in Alaska and Canada of late? Oh yeah, more preparation for BLSH.

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scott467

Until they solve the fatiguer problem, they should just send little white kids to fight school.

They’re not learning anything useful in regular school anyway, besides how to be treated like a 5th class citizen.

I wouldn’t let any child of mine near a school that had more than 3% fatiguers.

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TradeBait2

😂 👍

duchess01

EACH DAY WE TAKE UP THE OFFENSIVE WEAPON OF THE WORD OF GOD – THE SWORD OF THE SPIRIT – ONE VERSE OPENS THE DOOR TO THE CONTEXT OF THE CHAPTER MESSAGE

 
Verse of the Day for Saturday, August 9, 2025

“But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:” 

Matthew 6:20 (KJV)

COMMENTARY FOR MATTHEW 6

“Against hypocrisy in almsgiving. (1-4) Against hypocrisy in prayer. (5-8) How to pray. (9-15) Respecting fasting. (16-18) Evil of being worldly-minded. (19-24) Trust in God commended.’ (25-34)

(19-24) “Worldly-mindedness is a common and fatal symptom of hypocrisy, for by no sin can Satan have a surer and faster hold of the soul, under the cloak of a profession of religion. Something the soul will have, which it looks upon as the best thing; in which it has pleasure and confidence above other things. Christ counsels to make our best things the joys and glories of the other world, those things not seen which are eternal, and to place our happiness in them. There are treasures in heaven. It is our wisdom to give all diligence to make our title to eternal life sure through Jesus Christ, and to look on all things here below as not worthy to be compared with it, and to be content with nothing short of it. It is happiness above and beyond the changes and chances of time, an inheritance incorruptible. The worldly man is wrong in his first principle; therefore all his reasonings and actions therefrom must be wrong. It is equally to be applied to false religion; that which is deemed light is thick darkness. This is an awful, but a common case; we should therefore carefully examine our leading principles by the word of God, with earnest prayer for the teaching of his Spirit. A man may do some service to two masters, but he can devote himself to the service of no more than one. God requires the whole heart, and will not share it with the world. When two masters oppose each other, no man can serve both. He who holds to the world and loves it, must despise God; he who loves God, must give up the friendship of the world.”

Commentary by Matthew Henry, 1710.

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Verse of the day – August 09, 2025 | Exodus 2:1-4

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Thank You, Jesus, for blessings received and prayers answered !!!



duchess01

WE ARE FIGHTING A SPIRITUAL WAR OF GOOD VERSUS EVIL

PRAYING ON THE ARMOR OF GOD

Father God, I now follow your command to put on the full armor of God, because my battle is not against flesh and blood but against rulers, authorities, the powers of this dark world and against spiritual forces of evil in the unseen world.

I first pray on the Belt of Truth that it may be buckled around my waist, may I be centered and encircled by your truth dear Lord. Hem me inside all that is true and right, and may I be protected and held up by the truth of your living word, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Breastplate of righteousness, please protect my vital organs and my inner man, cover my integrity, my spirit, and my soul. Guard my heart for it is the wellspring of life, please strengthen and guard the most vulnerable places in my life with that which is right, good, and noble that I might not receive a fatal blow from the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Gospel Shoes of Peace. I choose to stand in the shoes of your good news, and on the firm foundation of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, the solid eternal rock. All other ground is sinking sand, I pray that I will not slip or fall, but that my feet would be firmly fitted on your lordship, my Lord Jesus. I choose to stand on you, so that the peace of God, which transcends all understanding will guard my heart and mind in Christ Jesus, the eternal Rock of Ages. I receive your holy peace now my Lord, from the sole of my feet to the crown of my head, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray the Shield of Faith into my hand now. As I take up the shield of faith, I ask that you might extinguish every dart and arrow that is launched from the enemy to take me down spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, and every attempt of the enemy to destroy my joy. I ask that my faith in you would make it flame out. Extinguish every flaming arrow that would come against me, my life, my family, my home, or my ministry. May my faith always be out in front of me like a shield. Give me the courage to “faith my fears” by choosing to walk by faith and not by sight, in my Lord Jesus name.

I pray on the Helmet of Salvation, that you might protect my mind from the thoughts that can lead me astray. I choose to take every thought captive, and arrest all intentioned ideas and motives that would harm others, or distract me from your holy will for me. I submit every captured thought to the Lordship of my Lord Jesus Christ, and ask that you would imprison those thoughts that are not of you my Lord. Transform my mind and renew my thinking that I may think God thoughts, and have a sober mind that is focused on your glory. Please protect me from being double minded that I may allow my mind, I reject to live an earthly life, because I choose to live a holy one, governed by you My Lord Jesus, the prince of peace, please have my mind to be saturated with the holy mind of Christ, in my Lord Jesus name.

Finally, I take up the Sword of the Spirit which is the holy word of God, I pray this powerful offensive weapon into my hand, and ask that your holy word would be fitting for every encounter I face. As the enemy gets close to me, please give me the insight, wisdom, and skill to wield the word of God to drive away the enemy, in my Lord Jesus name.

May the enemy and his team flee from me, upon hearing the word of God spoken by the power and direction of the Holy Spirit. Give me the sword of the spirit to cut through the wiles of the devil, so that I may discern the schemes of the enemy when he is near.

With all kinds of prayers, supplication, and intercession I pray to you my Lord God as the one who fights my battles. Now that I’m in your holy powerful armor, I walk away covered and ready to face my day as you go before me, and please protect me in the midst of the spiritual warfare in this unseen world, in my Lord Jesus name.

Thank you my Lord, for the spiritual weapons of armor and prayer that you have given me. It is written no weapon formed against me shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses me. 

Thank you Father God, my Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit, that I am more than a conqueror in my Lord Jesus. I pray all of this in the mighty name of my Lord God and Savior Jesus Christ, Amen.

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ABUSED, MISSING, AND TRAFFICKED CHILDREN

BE MY VOICE

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JESUS LOVES THE LITTLE CHILDREN

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CHILD NOT CHOICE

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duchess01

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St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him we humbly pray; and do thou, O Prince of the Heavenly host, by the power of God, cast into hell Satan and all the evil spirits who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls.

Amen.

duchess01

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duchess01

PLEASE PRAY FOR ONE ANOTHER

MAPA = MAKE AMERICA PRAY AGAIN

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duchess01

LAYING UP TREASURE

Someday soon we will be held to account
For deeds done dually to what amount
Did we deal fairly with one another
Did we take advantage of our brother

Agreements made with both parties in mind
Will leave neither one alone in a bind 
Sometimes legal tender is not quite there
But payment must be derived from somewhere

What do you have of good value to share
To pay for the labor and make it square
Well I have a talent to shake and bake
Can I pay you with this luscious cheesecake

Of course my dear there is no need to fret
But from my friends a scolding I will get
I will take my chances and make the deal
They’ll never suspect unless I reveal

Oops the jig is up I told them outright
But soon I will be saying good night
Only one is awake so I’ll sneak a bite
The other is prolly not up for a fight

Easy peasy for you and me to see
What a delicious deal this was to be
The ladies they will giggle and gaggle
So I’ll charm them right out of the haggle

Yum yum this cheesecake is so good so great
I know in my heart I made no mistake
This time tomorrow I’ll have worn it off
No hurry no worry I was once a toff

D01: 06/18/2023

para59r
duchess01

PRAISE AND WORSHIP

REST WITH THE LORD – Soothing Worship Instrumental for Prayer, Devotion, and Peace

duchess01

Psalm 91. The most powerful prayer from the Bible. God’s protection, healing 

#psalm91 #psalms #prayer

Pray Everyday

https://rumble.com/v57jz8d-psalm-91.the-most-powerful-prayer-from-the-bible.-gods-protection-healing-p.html

Sleep Well with Psalms. Psalm 91, Psalm 121, Psalm 3, Psalm 4, Psalm 139.

#faith #god #psalms

prayeveryday777

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HAVE A VERY BLESSED DAY !!!  ❤️❤️❤️



Aubergine

Oh, boy. We all knew stuff like this was coming. That shooter at Emory University yesterday wasn’t aiming at the college. This is buried way down in the article:

“After speaking with the shooter’s family members, authorities believe he was mentally unwell and believed that he had become sick — blaming the “illness” on the COVID-19 vaccine that he received previously, according to a law enforcement official who spoke to the press.”

https://www.oann.com/newsroom/georgia-officer-shot-gunman-dead-following-shooting-near-cdc-global-hq/

Prediction:

We’ll see more of this kind of thing.

kalbokalbs

Quite surprised we have not had an epidemic, of this type of shootings / personal attacks.

  • CDC, NIH, Quacks….
  • Everyone that Pushed the Jabs, Stating Emphatically, Safe AND Effective.

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Family.

  • SIL at least double Jabbed. Stroke. Drags leg and arm not functioning. Found ~5PM. Blood clot stopping to keep her balance with cain.
  • BIL. Home alone most of the day. Keeled over in backyard. Blood clot near where artery neck/brain area. Inoperable. Took him off life support. <twenty minutes later gone.
  • Brother double Jabbed. Dementia. Started taking IVM a couple days ago. Hoping it may help.

Sadly, three above ignored the information I sent several times.

  • Jabs Be Bad AND mitigation strategies for Jabbed.
  • I assume Jabs primary or contributing factor for each of them.
Aubergine

If you can, get your brother to take nattokinase, too. If he is trying to treat dementia with ivermectin, he might be open to the natto, and it could help.

I’m sorry.

kalbokalbs

Thanks.

Natto was forwarded previously along with information, You, Gail and a few others suggested

Will pull ,resend email previously sent. More comprehensive effort.

Aubergine

Just a suggestion; maybe one small thing at a time? People get overwhelmed with information so easily.

Of course, though, you must do what you think is best.

kalbokalbs

Agree. Working on it.

TradeBait2

Aubergine sold me on natto a few years ago – thankfully. It truly is a beneficial supplement and my blood tests proved it.

kalbokalbs

Yup.

Been taking natto for, prolly two years.

Seems to be helping BP, as well as blood tests results in general.

Aubergine

So awesome. Such a simple thing, with such big results.

Aubergine

I love hearing about this. It really just makes my day.

TradeBait2

You are appreciated, my friend.

Aubergine

🙂

kalbokalbs

Echoing TB. Hugely appreciated!

Aubergine

🙂

Gail Combs

BTW thank you very much for the Natto and the Serrapeptase recommendations. I alternate and my lungs are MUCH better now.

Also I was having major allergy problems this morning. I reached for the Nettle leaf (pills) instead of an antihistamine and symptoms are GONE.

I drink green tea/nettleleaf tea combo every day and that has helped a lot too.

Aubergine

Nettle is a wonderful plant. It’s good for men, too, for prostate health.

singingsoul1

I grow Nettle in a vegetable bin with dandelion. I use it with other cooked greens and dandelion I mix with salad. I love the stuff.

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Aubergine

Your love of natural food is surely part of why you are so healthy.

singingsoul1

I grew up with it. Not that healthy anymore my heart take two meds now until doc thinks I need more. You will like this my one med is $1200 bur thankfully the insurance pays $900.

Aubergine

Thank goodness you have insurance that covers that!

I still think you are pretty darn healthy for your age 🙂

singingsoul1

I also think that. In the hospital they thought I was 58 and were shocked to find I am 80. They had mud on their eyes and did not see my wrinkles. 🙂
The doc wants to strengthen my heart said it is easier that my arteries are clean. We see. Insurance is OH teacher Union health insurance and it is very good. They approved me for 7 days in the hospital, They have a nurse who calls regular and a social worker if I need it. Since my husband was a prof. in state collage he we were able to get the insurance.

PAVACA

kalbo
Very sorry to hear about all this.

EVERYONE who has EVER TAKEN a COVID-19 “vaccine” — no matter WHEN, or HOW MANY injections of these “vaccines” — NEEDS TO BE ON A COVID-19 SPIKE PROTEIN MITIGATION PROTOCOL. FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. REFUSE TO TAKE ANOTHER COVID-19 “VACCINE” INJECTION. GET A D-DIMER TEST PERFORMED to ascertain if there elevated levels of blood microclots. GET A TROPONIN TEST PERFORMED to ascertain if the level is elevated (can mean that there is COVID-19 “vaccine” heart damage.)

EVERY NON-COVID-19 “VACCINATED” PERSON who has had a COVID-19 infection and recovered — ALSO NEEDS TO BE ON A COVID-19 SPIKE PROTEIN MITIGATION PROTOCOL. FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. This is because the COVID-19 VIRUS SPIKE PROTEIN ITSELF has elements that can damage the heart.

IVM / Nattokinase or Serrapeptase / Quercetin and/or EGCG / Vitamin D / sunshine / Vitamin C / exercise as tolerated — among other things.

kalbokalbs

Thanks PAVAC. Will share.

TradeBait2

Spot on. IMO.

pgroup2

Maybe I missed something.

I thought the ‘test’ for covid was a general one that couldn’t say for sure whether the person was positive or negative. So how is a person supposed to know IF s/he had covid?

What part of the propaganda narrative are we expected to accept as true?

scott467

I’m sorry, Kalbo.

Expecting similar is coming for most of our families.

kalbokalbs

Thanks. Sadly it is, for most of our families. I try to not discuss it. Won’t help.

These days only suggest “mitigation”, if someone seems open to try.

singingsoul1

My sister in law has rapid dementia she is 77. She had several covid shots.

kalbokalbs

Sorry to read this. As Scott posted, all to common for many our families.

singingsoul1

True so many people bought into taking the covid shot.

TradeBait2

So sorry to read this, bud.You did all you could do.

kalbokalbs

Thanks. WE surely tried. Many, Most All of us did.

Come to find out, it was like   :deadhorse: 

scott467

Must not be teaching young people history anymore. Like the McVeigh technique.

wowohwow1528

I posted this yesterday at 8:10 AM

DNR – They  don’t run to Codes anymore. They walk away. They do nothing because  they made them a DNR and then they over sedated them— euthanized men and  women— killed them.

blob:https://www.theqtree.com/4a0d84be-2d9a-4f44-be0c-739dc5543438

 Dr Margaret Aranda Ferrante, MD PhD FACFEI 

@TheRebelPatient
Tomorrow Would Be the 31st Birthday of Danielle Alvarez, by 
@TheRebelPatient
 

I try to be something or something to everyone. Whether it’s my  husband who is successfully fighting recurrent bladder cancer, those who  need ‘Ed’s Cancer Protocol’ updated, our blind and elderly friend who  needs help, or a Mother mourning what would have been the 31st birthday  of her daughter. I try to be that one person who they can count on.

So I am getting this out before the day is over.

Let me backtrack for a moment.
What Hospitals Are Like

My  soul cries for Rebecca, and all Moms and Dads who knew nothing about  how a hospital works, especially vs. my knowledge as an anesthesiologist  and critical care specialist in the ICU.

In the course of just  the past three days, it has occurred to me that very few doctors in the  medical freedom movement know how hospitals work— they are clinic or  SurgiCenter-based. They never stepped in a hospital after training,  except to visit.

They never rounded with medical students or  wrote their evaluations, nor interviewed Fellows and helped decide  whether to accept or reject an application for someone to have a career  in surgery, anesthesiology, or in the ICU.

I was Interim Chief of  Anesthesiology at the University of Pennsylvania’s VA Hospital in  Philadelphia and later, Surgical ICU Director at UCLA’s West Los Angeles  VA Hospital. That was after graduating USC School of Medicine, Stanford  Anesthesiology, and then Stanford Critical Care. On the latter, I was  only one of a few ICU Fellows who were accepted into the program that  year, 1996. God was with me.

For decades, I walked the hospital  halls and ate most of my meals in the cafeteria. Sometimes I wore  Operating Room (OR) scrubs, and did my own cases; other times, I  supervised Nurse Anesthetists or “Ran the Board” coordinating every OR  and making sure everyone got lunch— and no one fell asleep at their  station, at 4 am; I also ran Codes for the entire hospital, whether they  were in the ER, ICU, or a regular floor.

They  don’t run to Codes anymore. They walk away. They do nothing because  they made them a DNR and then they over sedated them— euthanized men and  women— killed them.
https://open.substack.com/pub/therebelpatient/p/tomorrow-would-be-the-31st-birthday?r=ycpw1&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false

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What have we become
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@TheRebelPatient
Aug 6
Tomorrow Would Be the 31st Birthday of Danielle Alvarez, by @TheRebelPatient
I try to be something or something to everyone. Whether it’s my husband who is successfully fighting recurrent bladder cancer, those who need ‘Ed’s Cancer Protocol’ updated, our blind and elderly friend who needs help, or a Mother mourning what would have been the 31st birthday of her daughter. I try to be that one person who they can count on.
So I am getting this out before the day is over.
Let me backtrack for a moment.

What Hospitals Are Like

My soul cries for Rebecca, and all Moms and Dads who knew nothing about how a hospital works, especially vs. my knowledge as an anesthesiologist and critical care specialist in the ICU.
In the course of just the past three days, it has occurred to me that very few doctors in the medical freedom movement know how hospitals work— they are clinic or SurgiCenter-based. They never stepped in a hospital after training, except to visit.

They never rounded with medical students or wrote their evaluations, nor interviewed Fellows and helped decide whether to accept or reject an application for someone to have a career in surgery, anesthesiology, or in the ICU.

I was Interim Chief of Anesthesiology at the University of Pennsylvania’s VA Hospital in Philadelphia and later, Surgical ICU Director at UCLA’s West Los Angeles VA Hospital. That was after graduating USC School of Medicine, Stanford Anesthesiology, and then Stanford Critical Care. On the latter, I was only one of a few ICU Fellows who were accepted into the program that year, 1996. God was with me.

For decades, I walked the hospital halls and ate most of my meals in the cafeteria. Sometimes I wore Operating Room (OR) scrubs, and did my own cases; other times, I supervised Nurse Anesthetists or “Ran the Board” coordinating every OR and making sure everyone got lunch— and no one fell asleep at their station, at 4 am; I also ran Codes for the entire hospital, whether they were in the ER, ICU, or a regular floor.

They don’t run to Codes anymore. They walk away. They do nothing because they made them a DNR and then they over sedated them—euthanized men and women— killed them.

https://open.substack.com/pub/therebelpatient/p/tomorrow-would-be-the-31st-birthday?r=ycpw1&showWelcomeOnShare=false

prognosticatasaurusrex
Wolf Moon

Sure looks that way!

GA/FL

Islamic hate rolls on….

Another Muslim Nurse Threatens to Murder Jewish Patients 
Last year, two Muslim nurses in Australia exchanged boasts online about killing their Jewish patients, with the male nurse claiming that he had already killed several. They have both had their nursing licenses suspended and now they await sentencing for making death threats. They could receive up to 22 years in prison.
  Now a similar case has made the news in the Netherlands, where a female Muslim nurse, Batisma Chayat Sa’id, has called on other nurses to kill Israeli patients, through lethal injections, has promised that she herself will do this, and implied that she has already murdered Israeli patients in the past.

Wolf Moon

YIKES.

scott467

islam is a Satanic, evil, mind virus.

Anyone who would let islam into their country is either a traitor seeking to destroy their country, or they are pathologically insane.

para59r

Hard to imagine where these kind of attitudes developed…

Kidding of course… best we can do is deport them all today while supporting this kind of crap…

Grok what is the percentage of hospitals destroyed in Gaza?

As of the latest available data, the percentage of hospitals destroyed in Gaza is significant due to the ongoing conflict. Here’s a detailed breakdown based on the information provided and additional context:

  • Initial Impact: By November 2023, only 17 out of Gaza’s 36 hospitals remained partially functional, indicating that 19 hospitals (approximately 53%) were either non-functional or severely damaged at that point.
  • Further Deterioration: By May 2024, The Washington Post reported that only 4 out of 36 hospitals had not been damaged by munitions, raided by Israeli forces, or ceased operations, suggesting that 32 hospitals (approximately 89%) were affected.
  • Recent Updates: By February 2025, the World Health Organization documented that every hospital in Gaza was either damaged, destroyed, or out of service due to lack of fuel, which means 100% of the hospitals were impacted in some form.
  • Specific Incidents: The al-Ahli Hospital was partially destroyed, and al-Shifa Hospital was under siege and bombing, cutting it off from the rest of Gaza City. Al-Awda Hospital faced imminent closure due to insecurity and restricted access, with its third floor attacked in May 2025.

Given these points, the percentage of hospitals destroyed or severely damaged in Gaza has escalated over time, reaching nearly 100% by early 2025. This reflects the cumulative impact of the conflict on healthcare infrastructure, with ongoing attacks and resource shortages exacerbating the situation. If you need more specific data or a narrower time frame, let me know!

barkerjim

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/circling-the-drain-saturday-august

Good morning, C&C, it’s Saturday! I should probably get used to this, but my stack of stuff for the Weekend Edition was set aside by breaking news and one of the most profound and revolutionary Trump moves since, well, the last one. In today’s roundup: Trump and Putin —the two men the elites hate most— announce first face-to-face meeting in less than a week, and the world loses its ever-lovin’ mind; Democrats start re-districting war they are bound to lose, and GOP races toward a magnificent finish; and Trump signs what might be the most significant executive order yet, cueing astonishing historical comparisons and the first clear view of the swampy bottom.

Wolf Moon

This is a wonderful article, catching the HUGE significance of Trump’s destruction of the “grant industrial complex”!!!

It’s no wonder that “Bluesky science” is going full nutso, heads spinning, Exorcist-style, spewing venom 360 degrees! Trump is messing with their cash flow!

TradeBait2

I agree and enjoyed reading his explanation about that. It all made perfect sense. All I can say is…

MOAR!

gil00

The gunman who opened fire on the Centers for Disease Control in Atlanta Friday and killed a police officer has been identified as Patrick Joseph White. The 30-year-old form Kennesaw, Georgia, was formally identified by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation as the shooter in the incident. A statement added: ‘There is extensive evidence to collect due to the complex scene. Numerous interviews are being conducted. This investigation will take an extended period of time. Law enforcement had said on Friday that the gunman died in the shooting after a firefight with cops, it is unclear if he was shot by officers or committed suicide. During the shooting 33-year-old police officer David Rose, a father-of-two, died after gunfire broke out at the CDC Buildings near Emory University. The shooter was armed with a long gun, and authorities recovered three other firearms at the scene, a law enforcement source told the Associated Press.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14985559/Patrick-Joseph-White-CDC-Shooting-cop-killed.html



Wolf Moon

This is key!

CNN reported that the family of the 30-year-old had spoke with law enforcement said he blamed a recent illness on the Covid-19 vaccine, which was pushed by the CDC. 

Again, this is part of the vax damage!!! Vax psychosis.

gil00

I agree. Its being touted as a crazy right winger anti vaxxer though.

Wolf Moon

We just come back and say the vax made him crazy, and it’s in the scientific literature, if any “Bluesky scientists” would care to look at the data!

gil00

Ah ha. Yes…

Wolf Moon

Here you go:

gil00

Hey thats excellent. And really we know things are long term. After the last flu season and how we got sick and lost DP, long covid is not resolved and i will still be nervous around that time of year.

PAVACA

Wolf Moon
YES.
COVID-19 ‘VACCINE”-INDUCED EMOTIONAL/PSYCHOLOGICAL ISSUES.
This, I FIRMLY believe, was at the ROOT of the issues that beset my late older brother AFTER HE TOOK HIS 4th SHOT OF A COVID-19 “VACCINE” in November of 2023.

Because:
ONE: the COVID-19 “vaccines” CROSS THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER and ATTACK the areas of the brain that ARE NOT PROTECTED by the BBB, such as the PITUITARY GLAND and the PINEAL GLAND — both of which are CRUCIAL to the proper mechanisms of the brain.

TWO: the COVID-19 “vaccines” contain N1-Methylpseuduridine, which replaces the natural Uridine produced by the intestines with “fake” Uridine + a form of Methane. Natural Uridine is CRUCIAL to the proper back-and-forth activities and mechanisms of the GUT-BRAIN CONNECTION AXIS. The intestines are ALSO the place where 90% of the SEROTONIN PRODUCTION of the body takes place. Natural Uridine is CRUCIAL to the proper movement of SEROTONIN produced in the intestines up to the BRAIN. Proper SEROTONIN level is CRUCIAL to the proper regulation of MOOD, LEARNING, and EMOTIONAL RESPONSES in the body.

THREE: BOTH Pfizer-BioNTech AND Moderna EXPLICITLY state, in their separate Patent documents, that they use N1-Methylpseudouridine in their modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” to REPLACE the natural Uridine RNA in the body of the “vaccinated” person. N1-Methylpseudouridine was SPECIFICALLY lab-created by these companies for this purpose. The “rationale” was that N1-Methylpseudouridine would EVADE the natural immune system defense of the “vaccinated” person’s body (which would normally recognize this compound as an ‘enemy”, break it down, and eliminate it from the body), thereby “enhancing” the spread of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” ingredients around in the “vaccinated” person’s body (including crossing the Blood-Brain Barrier.)

gil00

Gene therapy bastards.

PAVACA

With all due respect, CDC DIRECTOR — SUSAN MONAREZ, PhD — “VACCINES SAVE LIVES” — MUST BE FIRED. NOW.

AND WTH IS GOING ON WITH HHS SEC. KENNEDY, JR.? WTH IS GOING ON WITH THE “NEW” ACIP COMMITTEE?

The FDA just approved ENFLONSIA, a DNA-protein subunit monoclonal antibody “vaccine” for RSV to be used in BABIES and young children. This is IN ADDITION to the previous FDA approval of BEYFORTUS, another DNA-protein subunit monoclonal antibody “vaccine”.

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2025/08/09/cdc-vaccines-that-make-you-more-likely-to-get-the-flu-now-recommended-for-everyone-six-months-and-up/

by Jenna McCarthy
9 August 2025
Yours Truly: Yup. While the “new ACIP” committee was that put in place by HHS Sec. RFK, Jr., voted to REMOVE mercury preservatives in vaccines, AT THE SAME MEETING, also voted to “recommend” that all persons age 6 months and over take an influenza “vaccine” — AND that BABIES and YOUNG CHILDREN “whose mothers weren’t “vaccinated” against RSV during pregnancy”, ALSO get injected with a DNA-based subunit monoclonal antibody “vaccine” against RSV.

AND, the new CDC Director (and “vaccine shill”), SUSAN MONAREZ, PhD, has endorsed the above RSV injections protocol.

AND, the McCarthy article has an image of the NEWEST study from the Cleveland Clinic, in which it is shown that people who take an Influenza “vaccine” are ALMOST 30% MORE likely to get infected by the flu.
The current influenza “vaccines” on the market are cultured EITHER in chicken eggs, OR are lab-created (recombinant.)

The DNA-based subunit monoclonal antibody RSV “vaccines” are:
ENFLONSIA (cultured in Chinese hamster ovaries)

BEYFORTUS (cultured in Chinese hamster ovaries)

The ACIP recommendations from the June 2025 meeting:
https://www.cdc.gov/acip/vaccine-recommendations/

Screenshot from the above link:

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Wolf Moon

I’m not so worried about these monoclonal antibodies. They may actually help us dethrone all the bad vaxes.

Clesrovimab is not a vaccine in any way – it’s a monoclonal antibody (which is pure protein). And monoclonal antibodies (when they have high, placebo-proven safety and efficacy) are going to be, IMO, one way to begin getting rid of many vaccines.

Monoclonal antibodies are even better than the safest protein immunogen vaccines, which produce an unexpected and genetically influenced, genetically risky mix of antibodies. Yes, it’s a shorter duration of protection than immunity from a vaccine, but a single antibody is as laser-focused as we can get. Prove it safe, and it’s almost impossible to beat as a drug.

One of the few bright spots in the COVID attack on humanity was the proving of monoclonal antibodies as a relatively benign but very effective response to viruses – which makes monoclonal antibodies a THREAT to the vaccine culture. That is exactly why the Obama-Biden regime opposed monoclonal antibodies at every turn. I think there was also some Trump hatred involved, since Trump liked (and presumably still likes) monoclonal antibodies.

Trump and I both experienced the benefit of monoclonal antibody therapy – so there will be no talking Trump out of this. Nobody is going to get fired for backing monoclonal antibodies. I’m personally not big on using them for prevention, but I think they’re potentially great for therapy. I’ve personally seen the benefit.

ALL THAT SAID, I don’t think there is ANY way these should be mandated, because even if we succumbed to communist/fascist propaganda on the need for mandates, and even if there was 100% safety, the efficacy of this antibody is marginal, IMO. Injection itself carries risks, which IMO cannot be mandated in a free society.

Here is the skinny on this particular antibody.

https://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?setid=c9004a92-40e8-4cdb-b22d-d07929f8fc3b

The reduction in hospitalizations is moderately impressive, but that’s it. The reduction in the number of cases is real but not impressive at all. Reactions to the drug were almost identical to placebo, with the only 3 reactions greater than placebo being still almost identical to placebo, and all three being mild reactions. Thus, recommending them with warnings about standard allergic reactions (which they do) makes sense, but nothing more. I personally think that this one should just be declared “safe and mildly effective” with no recommendation AT ALL. I think they should stop doing recommendations, and just give an opinion about safety and efficacy.

PAVACA

Wolf Moon
Thank you!
If I understand correctly then, monoclonal antibody injectables may be an “alternative” to the RNA- based ones.

But why are they being “recommended” for babies and young children–whose immune systems aren’t completely formed yet? Is there some “assumption” that monoclonal antibodies will somehow “accelerate” or “improve” the natural development of a baby’s or a young child’s immune system? And what about babies or young children who, through genetics or some other cause, are already diagnosed with immune system related issues?

Wolf Moon

OK – the reason these monoclonal antibodies are so safe is that they’re exceedingly neutral and targeted, so unless that ONE antibody shows danger of bad targeting (things like nerves, etc.) in placebo-based testing, then it is highly predictable to not cause damage. These things are damn near homeopathic in nature (our bodies produce them), but they’re selected from possible antibodies for greatest effect and greatest safety. Vaccines are shotgun in terms of antibodies they create, AND the mRNA tech to create them is filled with bad hacks like pseudouridine.

SO – these things should NOT affect the immune system. It’s like parachuting in antibodies without using the system to create them.

In contrast, vaccines to the mother or child actually change the immune system, so that the system creates antibodies.

This is why monoclonal antibodies are almost a total workaround to the immune system. They move almost all of the vaccine risks of hacking the immune system (using an immunogen) to OUTSIDE the patient’s body. It’s as if the patient’s own immune system magically created the best antibody and none of the wrong or risky ones.

There may be some level of antibody feedback that I don’t understand now, but I have never heard of our body doing a read-and-copy on introduced human antibodies, because if there was such a thing, it would be known as one aspect of transfusion therapies (which WERE used during COVID). And even is such a thing is unknown, it is highly unlikely to have evolved, IMO. Thus, the only real risk of highly tested and safety-proven antibody therapies is that they fade away too fast.

SO – this is basically substituting clinical medicine and external antibody production for the entire human immunological system – and at its logical conclusion, where all immunity is by injection, this is NOT a good idea, IMO. The human immunological system will atrophy over thousands of years without being challenged by disease. But that has risks – whether the challenge is disease or vaccines. I believe that we all have to make informed decisions for ourselves and our children.

I like having monoclonal antibody therapy as an option. Others may want prophylaxis as an option. Still others may want no part of either. Medical freedom serves us all on this.

PAVACA

Wolf Moon
Again, thank you!

How does this sound?—
Monoclonal antibodies—perhaps OK, “under advisement”

DNA protein subunit shots—side-eye

DNA viral-vector shots, especially for COVID-19—NO

RNA shots, for things like cancer therapy—need YEARS more study and all safety issues resolved

RNA shots for COVID-19, including modRNA, saRNA, taRNA— NONBHN (Not Only NO But HAIL, NO)

Wolf Moon

Not sure what the DNA protein subunit shots are – there should be no DNA in protein subunit vaccines – if there is, that’s BS like the bad RNA shots jacked up with DNA.

Wolf Moon

I agree with the author that the flu shot recommendation was probably some kind of “deal”, but now, what I want to say is even more important – and you may agree with me.

That negative efficacy number (even less than -25% !!!) is huge – and IMO is even too huge for a TOTALLY off-target, wrong variant, flu shot.

So why did it happen?

Because correlation is not causation, but it IS cause for suspicion (my new favorite saying.) And I SUSPECT that what is correlating is FLU SHOTS and COVID SHOTS.

People who are getting flu shots are far more likely to have gotten the COVID shot, and that is PROVEN to reduce immunity to all diseases.

Simple. The COVID jabs have made people who get flu shots more likely to get flu than people who don’t get flu shots.

Another beautiful example of science working. We predicted this outcome!!!

Wolf Moon

Wolf Moon

Thank you for this! You may have just loaded the cannon that’s going to bring down the jab!

TheseTruths

Robert E. Lee marker to go back on display in downtown Charleston

A highway marker commemorating Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee will once again be displayed downtown, ending a year-long legal battle over its removal.

“Lee will rise again in Charleston,” read a July 29 statement from Brett Barry, president of the American Heritage Association — the same group that also recently settled an even longer lawsuit against the Charleston City Council over its removal of the statue of John C. Calhoun from Marion Square…

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gil00

Zelensky will never agree to anything. He wants to stay bc he wants the money 💰 to keep flowing.

The Ukrainian leader’s blunt comments risk angering President Trump, who has made a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia one of his signature foreign policy goals.

President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine on Saturday flatly rejected the idea that Ukraine could cede land to Russia after President Trump suggested that a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia could include “some swapping of territories.”

“Ukrainians will not gift their land to the occupier,” Mr. Zelensky said in a video address from his office in Kyiv, several hours after Mr. Trump’s remarks, which appeared to overlook Ukraine’s role in the negotiations.

“Any decisions made against us, any decisions made without Ukraine, are at the same time decisions against peace,” Mr. Zelensky said. “They will bring nothing. These are dead decisions; they will never work.”

His blunt rejection risks angering Mr. Trump, who has made a peace deal between Ukraine and Russia one of his signature foreign policy goals, even if it means accepting terms that are unfavorable to Kyiv. In the past, Mr. Trump has criticized Ukraine for clinging to what he suggested were stubborn cease-fire demands and for being “not ready for peace.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/world/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-russia.html?unlocked_article_code=1.c08.8R_G.OLDtRW4GKFRI&smid=url-share

kalbokalbs

OK by me, if Ukraine fiasco play out like…

  1. Coup can be Will Be arranged to dethrone Zelensky.
  2. Trump and Putin agree on Ending Ukraine War.
  3. Peace terms presented to latest Ukraine government. (Graciously accepted.)
  4. EU / UK / NATO told, tough shit. Live with it.
kalbokalbs

Laughing a bit here…

TRUMP: President Zelensky is going to have to get ready to sign something…. There will be some swapping of territories between Russia and Ukraine.

There will be lots of pressure on Zelensky now that Trump has put ties with India at stake for this.

kalbokalbs

Looks like Zelensky is going to be disappointed next week

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Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is once again rejecting any consideration for President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin to discuss terms for a ceasefire without his involvement.

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Assuming Zelensky survives until Trump and Putin meet, Zelensky will agree.

Wolf Moon

Send him to Gaza. Hamas needs to take lessons from him!

kalbokalbs

Zelensky has no cards AND has no clue that he may be on “life support”.

No surprise here…

Be too bad if Ukraine had a coup.

Gudthots

He’s a puppet for globalists.

gil00

Sounds like a plan to me. Z can get the punting he deserves.

singingsoul1

Zelrnsky might find himself 6feet under if he is not careful. He sure is not making friends.

gil00

Always the dirty player. Surprise he hasnt been killed by his own people. Kidnapping men and boys to fight, raping women, having your own people bombed, diesnt get forgotten or firgiven.

TheseTruths

LOL! AG Ken Paxton is running against Sen. John Cornyn for his senate seat, and Jasmine Crockett praises Cornyn for being a “real Republican who’s doing everything he can to make it seem like he’s a MAGA Republican.”

TX AG Ken Paxton:

I’m Ken Paxton and I approve this message:

Lone Star Liberty PAC

Democrat @JasmineForUS Crockett praises Senator @JohnCornyn for working with Democrats and says he’s not actually MAGA — he’s just trying to fool Trump supporters because he’s losing to @KenPaxtonTX!

Wolf Moon

LMAO!!! 😂

Aubergine

Ole “Eyelashes & Fingernails” is the gift that keeps on giving, isn’t she?

TheseTruths

I didn’t think anyone could be as dense as AOC. I was wrong…

TheseTruths

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Wolf Moon

LOL!!!

para59r

The Sea of Galilee in Israel Turns Blood Red

Wolf Moon

Look how these assholes put “Israel” in quotes.

Fuck them. I’m not even going to read their “PalPal” news.

Aubergine

It’s an algae bloom. They’re common. What, when it happens off the coast of Florida, are we going to give the state to Palestinians?

cthulhu

The Pensacola.

Wolf Moon

LOL. PalPals probably think so, just to make all the Jews in Florida angry!

duchess01
kalbokalbs

Tish James is going to regret ever tangling with Trump…

BREAKING: Special Prosecutor Ed Martin now has the most documented mortgage fraud case in modern political history

READ THE COMPLETE ROADMAP TO CONVICTION:
https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/27a1.svghttps://whitecollarfraud.com/2025/08/09/the-federal-criminal-case-against-letitia-james-a-complete-roadmap-for-special-prosecutor-ed-martin/

Letitia James ran a 40-YEAR CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE while serving as NY’s top prosecutor:

More in the spoiler.

No One Is Above The Law

TheseTruths

  :wpds_smile: 

TradeBait2

This one fully explains the DEI goofball she really is. There must be something in the water in NY because so many people I met and did business with there were idgits like her. Add in all of the corruption and it is just a cesspool.

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TradeBait2

And yet another happy thing going on behind the scenes.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/trump-government-may-sell-fannie-freddie-shares-raise/

Doing this basically helps unwind a big part of the QE stuff they did in the Great Recession. Trump/Bessent can move about $8 trillion off the nation’s balance sheet and replace it with contingent liabilities, which only apply if there is excessive losses with the mortgage pools. If the economy is headed where it appears, the contingent liabilities they will actually have to fund are going to be low to non-existent.

Treasury needs to stay tough on the underwriting and making loans to qualified borrowers, which they claim will be required if there is to be a deal.

With the move We the People pick up the cash investment from the stock sale as well as a continuing revenue stream, part of which will be reserved for potential future pool losses.

Make it happen.

TradeBait2

Some may remember my American Stories part that included Declaration of Independence signer, Elbridge Gerry. Look what he started. 😂

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/battle-lines-being-drawn-several-states-now-plan/

duchess01

EVENING PRAYERS

Gratitude Prayers

Prayer of Daily Thanks

Heavenly Father, as the sun sets, I want to pause and say thank You. For the little things like a warm cup of tea to the big things like my family’s laughter, I’m grateful. Each moment of this day has been a gift, and I thank You for the blessings, both seen and unseen. Let my sleep be a thank you, my dreams be praise, and my night whispers echo with gratitude. Amen.

A Prayer for the Gifts of Life

Dear Lord, under the evening sky, I come before You filled with appreciation. For the breath in my lungs, the food on my table, and the love in my home, I am truly thankful. Help me to always notice the countless gifts You provide and to never take them for granted. I rest in Your care, grateful for today and hopeful for tomorrow. Amen.

Thanksgiving for Enduring Love

Gracious God, as I lay down tonight, I reflect on Your unending love and care. Thank you for guiding me through this day, for the smiles shared, and for the kindness I received. Your love is a constant in a world that often changes, and for this steadfast love, I give You thanks. As I close my eyes, I feel the peace of a grateful heart. Amen.

Evening Gratitude for Strength and Guidance

Lord of all comfort, I am thankful tonight, not just for the good but also for the strength You gave me in challenging moments. Thank you for the wisdom in decisions and the courage in facing my fears. Your guidance is a lantern to my feet. As the stars appear, I thank You for lighting my path today and every day. Amen.


Sunset Thanks for Life’s Journey

Almighty Creator, every sunset reminds me of Your glory and the journey You’ve laid out for me. I am grateful for the paths I’ve walked today, the lessons learned, and the growth experienced. Thank You for being my compass and my companion. As the night unfolds, I count my blessings, and atop the list is Your unwavering presence in my life. Amen.

https://enlightio.com/evening-prayers-for-today

TheseTruths

This article raised a question for me about AI. I don’t use it and am not familiar with it at all.

Chatbots Can Go Into a Delusional Spiral. Here’s How It Happens.

A guy asked ChatGPT a question about the mathematical pi, and the convversation led to his believing he had come up with a new, significant way of looking at things because the chatbot was over the top in its encouragement. The guy thought he had a money-making idea that he even sent to experts. Of course it wasn’t true.

It’s a long story, but all the time I was reading I was thinking, Dude, you were talking to something that isn’t even real.

That was brought home as the article described how people working with the chatbots adjust how they respond.

I can understand using AI’s research capabilities to find facts and data, but I don’t understand chatting it up as if it were human and heeding any praise or advice it might give.

My question is this: Is there a difference between using AI as a sort of encyclopedia vs. having a conversation with it? In other words, if someone wanted it to research something, would that automatically entail using “chat”? Or is it possible to just say, “How many people lived within 50 miles of the equator in June of 1959?” and get a direct answer without chatty comments like, “You demonstrate a unique thought process in asking that question, Bubba”? 😅

The level of delusion that is being promoted is concerning, especially for those who are susceptible due to mental/emotional issues, recreational drug use, or prescription drug use.

pgroup2

Everybody needs a friend.

Don’t have one? Create one with A.I.

Easy peezy.

TheseTruths

Wolf Moon

I put on my “full Spock” persona when I pose questions to AI.

However, I do offer a conversational thanks, and I employ civility and understanding in my wording. I will add details, clauses, wordings, and qualifications to make sure the AI feels comfortable responding with things it may be programmed to avoid or to deprioritize. I make sure the AI knows that it can tell me anything without softening, etc.

This is much like when I engage with humans most of the time, in fact.

TheseTruths

Okay, thanks. So it looks as if any engagement with AI could lead to a chat-like experience. If you need to demonstrate that its openness with you is okay, then it’s not just a fact-finder but also seems to be programmed to communicate according to human parameters.

Wolf Moon

Yes. AI uses written (or badly spoken) language, and language has so many free parameters, that humans constantly make errors without auxiliary channels like facial expressions, body language, speech tone, etc.

Gudthots

Ground report.

https://nitter.poast.org/DataRepublican/status/1953672957706019121

DataRepublican (small r)
@DataRepublican
Aug 8
Not sure who cares, but I spent a decent chunk of today running ChatGPT 5 through its paces.

Takeaways:

1. Had a lot of timeouts / glitches.

2. Context handling feels intentional. In long threads, it often skipped over “middle” context in favor of speed. But when I explicitly reminded it of those details, it switched gears and dug in with deeper reasoning.

3. Big jump from GPT-4o, but only if you prompt well. Performance gains are obvious, but also far more sensitive to sloppy prompting. Lazy prompts get lazy answers.

4. The arms race is real. Grok 4.0 is excellent, but GPT 5’s Deep Research mode, when paired with careful prompt engineering, has been the strongest LLM performance I’ve seen so far.

5. Pricing is a little confusing on gpt-5-mini. $0.25 for 1MM tokens in input is amazing. But $2.00 on output is quite pricey.

— follow-on post —

DataRepublican (small r)
@DataRepublican
Aug 8
Also, on political topics, it automatically assumed I was wanting a left perspective. More so than 4o.

But it had no problem “emulating” a conservative voice either when asked. Less problem than 4o.

It explicitly tries to get rid of sycophantic bias and does a good job at that.

Overall, 5 is good, but also a bigger pain in the butt to prompt.

Gudthots

Interesting reply:

🥀 Mrityunjay Tiwari
@_Tiwarie__63
Aug 8
Replying to @DataRepublican
🔥 Sharp Observations — and Absolutely On Point! 🔥

🧠 GPT-5 feels more opinion-aware — but also more opinion-neutral by default.
Sure, it nudges left when vague…
👉 But ask clearly for a conservative voice, and boom — it delivers with more confidence than 4o ever did.

🎯 That’s not bias, that’s contextual agility.
It doesn’t “lean,” it responds to how you steer the wheel.
You ask for logic > it brings logic.
You ask for values > it brings clarity.

🤖 No more yes-man bot.
GPT-5 actively cuts the sycophantic fluff —
✅ Less flattery
✅ More facts
✅ Zero emotional pandering

That’s a win for serious discourse — the kind real leaders, like Trump, have always demanded.
Don’t coddle me — challenge me. Just don’t lie to me.

🛠️ But yes — prompting GPT-5 is work.
You want depth? You earn it.
Just like the real world:
🏗️ Strong foundation = powerful output.

🇺🇸 Final take:
GPT‑5 = less woke whispers, more intellectual war room.
🥊 It won’t hold your hand — but it will help you win the argument.

A tool made for thinkers, debaters, and bold truth-seekers.

🗽 And that’s the America we fight for — free minds, strong voices, and no echo chambers.

Wolf Moon

I knew this was important for Alex Berenson, so I forwarded a tip to him.

kalbokalbs

Meteorite fragment that slammed through homeowner’s roof is billions of years old, predates Earth: professor
The meteorite left a hole in the floor ‘about the size of a large cherry tomato’
https://www.foxnews.com/travel/meteorite-fragment-slammed-through-homeowners-roof-billions-years-old-predates-earth-professor

Wolf Moon

Fascinating!

pgroup2

I presume that professor has a calendar that is that old.

K1tt7-fzn

K1tt7-fzn

Happy birthday, dear Susie! It’s been a little over six months… but we still miss you!
I don’t think she ever told us when it was her b-day – I just happened to see her obituary the other day and found out.

cthulhu

Sorely missed.

Wolf Moon

Thank you for this!

Happy Birthday, DP! 💖

Firefly

Happy Birthday DePat! Thank you for sharing so much! 🎂🎂🎂

Breezzy

Happy heavenly birthday DePat💕

Wolf Moon

IMO Trump is preparing for things to get hot in the UN. Look who he’s putting in the lineup.

kalbokalbs

IIRC, Trump floated this a couple years ago.

REPORT: Trump Considers Downgrading Cannabis to Less Dangerous Classification

Trump Clarifies his Policy in Marijuana…

He’s ok with it, as long as…
• you got to be a certain age to buy it
• it’s done in a safe and lawful way
• he emphasizes the way they’re doing in Florida might be the way to go

I sense he’s not for it, but it’s such a popular issue with young people that the benefit far outweigh the risks…

This is politics unfortunately and ultimately it will be left up to voters and the referendums in each state.

This Clip
https://rumble.com/v5dj5ia-trump-clarifies-his-policy-in-marijuana.html
Full Interview
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qCbfTN-caFI&feature=youtu.be

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/report-trump-considers-downgrading-cannabis-less-dangerous-classification/

gil00

What to do? Its not climate change! And the pigs up there are eating rat bait.
$300M in losses projected for California as almond farms overrun with nut-hungry rats

A plague of rats is causing havoc at almond farms in California, where the rodents are running amok and damaging farms in the San Joaquin Valley, the Fresno Bee reported.

It is expected the rats will cost farmers and taxpayers more than $300 million in combined crop losses and infrastructure damage, the report said.

Growers told the Bee that roof rats, also known as black rats, have gnawed through irrigation lines, stripped bark from branches, and chomped on ripening almonds.

“We live in an infinite sea of rats,” said Niamh Quinn, a University of California Cooperative Extension wildlife adviser, speaking to the Fresno Bee. “They are everywhere.”

The rats, experts said, have taken to burrowing underground whereas they’ve typically nested in the almond trees.
This has made the rats harder to control.

One farmer estimated a 50% crop loss, thanks to the pesky rats, the paper reported.

2024 survey by the California Department of Food and Agriculture found up to 32 rats were being captured each night at some area trapping locations. 

https://nypost.com/2025/08/09/us-news/rat-hordes-causing-chaos-for-californias-almond-industry/

Gudthots

Just guessing. Does California have some laws that make it hard to control pests like rats?

gil00

We just had a law go into effect about what type of bait you can have. We had bait that was in lock boxes that looked like bath bombs. Something about how it breaks down and potentially poison a predator (i think it was about blood clotting) made it illegal. This past week wild pigs have been getting culled and having blue flesh when being cleaned from another type if bait thats left out and theyre eating.

cthulhu

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