Dear KAG: 20200901 Open Thread

Cover image: After the Rain, Andrew Wyeth, 1939.

The Great Awakening intensifies.

Sometime late last week, the Centers for Disease Control updated the true COVID cause of death number versus died with COVID and at least one co-morbidity. 94% of previously attributed COVID only deaths were re-classified.

This information was not publicized by the CDC, but quietly posted on the website as if the people there didn’t want it to be noticed.

Well, it was noticed, and the information was spread via social media very quickly.

And thus, the people who needed to be shown, began the next phase of waking up, Folgers in their cups or not.

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When You Are Awake, You Are Able to Clearly See

Q!!Hs1Jq13jV6

28 Mar 2020 – 3:18:02 PM

>Decide for yourself (be free from outside opinion).
>Decide for yourself (be objective in your conclusions).
>Decide for yourself (be true in your own beliefs).
>Decide for yourself (be open to following the facts).
>Decide for yourself (be strong in defending your beliefs).
>Decide for yourself (be resistant to blindly accepting fact-less statements).
Those who attack you.
Those who mock you.
Those who cull you.
Those who control you.
Those who label you.
Do they represent you?
Or, do they represent themselves (in some form)?
Mental Enslavement.
The Great Awakening (‘Freedom of Thought’), was designed and created not only as a backchannel to the public (away from the longstanding ‘mind’ control of the corrupt & heavily biased media) to endure future events through transparency and regeneration of individual thought (breaking the chains of ‘group-think’), but, more importantly, aid in the construction of a vehicle (a ‘ship’) that provides the scattered (‘free thinkers’) with a ‘starter’ new social-networking platform which allows for freedom of thought, expression, and patriotism or national pride (the feeling of love, devotion and sense of attachment to a homeland and alliance with other citizens who share the same sentiment).
When ‘non-dogmatic’ information becomes FREE & TRANSPARENT it becomes a threat to those who attempt to control the narrative and/or the stable.
When you are awake, you stand on the outside of the stable (‘group-think’ collective), and have ‘free thought’.
“Free thought” is a philosophical viewpoint which holds that positions regarding truth should be formed on the basis of logic, reason, and empiricism, rather than authority, tradition, revelation, or dogma.
When you are awake, you are able to clearly see.
The choice is yours, and yours alone.
Trust and put faith in yourself.
You are not alone and you are not in the minority.
Difficult truths will soon see the light of day.
WWG1WGA!!!
Q

4464

The ‘How’ Will Be Hard to Understand for Most

Q!!Hs1Jq13jV6

13 Jun 2020 – 4:15:27 PM

The ‘how’ will be hard to understand for most.
Focus on the ‘why’.
The ‘when’ is now.
Q

The “how” is not pretty, that’s for sure, but it certainly has been effective.

The President’s Own Marine Band posted clips from the percussion ensemble’s recent concert on their channel. If beating on drums is your thing, you might like to visit.

For everyone else:

And a reminder to take the pledge:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”

And now for the nitty gritty of the Q Tree 5 minute, stand up, Tuesday morning meeting version of the Daily Thread.

Ahem.

Guidelines for posting and discussion on this site were outlined by our host, WolfM00n. Please, review them from time to time.

The discourse on this site is to be CIVIL – no name calling, baiting, or threatening others here is allowed. Those who are so inclined may visit Wolf’s other sanctuary, the U-Tree, to slog it out with anyone who happens to still be hanging out there.

This site is a celebration of the natural rights endowed to humans by our Creator as well as those enshrined in the Bill of Rights adopted in the founding documents of the United States of America. Within the limits of law, how we exercise these rights is part of the freedom of our discussion.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

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1 CORINTHIANS 2:10-16

10God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God. 11For what person knows a man’s thoughts except the spirit of the man which is in him? So also no one comprehends the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from God, that we might understand the gifts bestowed on us by God. 13And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit. 14The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16“For who has known the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

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bakocarl

One for you, DePat . . .comment image

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hooray!

cthulhu

It’s unfortunate that we don’t have a picture of her singing….
People here who know her will be reminded of reasons why we treasure her….n00bs will think she sounds like a camel.

bakocarl

In recognition of the singing, I was going to includecomment image
but it was an assumption and a stretch . . . and it would take up real estate, so, in the end, I opted out.

Deplorable Patriot

In ST. ANN? I wonder who spearheaded that. Hmm.

Deplorable Patriot

Someday….
Who knows, I just might let the time and place of one of the livestream Masses I cantor slip sometime.

patfrederick

the peek-a-boo camel is my favorite! AWESOME JOB CARL!

Teagan

Nicely done, Carl…you are getting it down!
Makes me wonder what photos, symbols, music, etc. others might compile about me….something to ponder, isn’t? Kind of looking into a mirror….do we see what we want to see it what is actually there.
I’ve always admired photos and stories of very elderly couples…bent over, wrinkled, bald, missing teeth and yet the husband says…”she’s just as beautiful as the day we met.” And, in his eyes she truly is!

grandmaintexas

Because they know the soul of their spouse, immortal, glorious and ageless.

ForGodandCountry

So very glad to see this! 👇😃

ForGodandCountry

Presler deserves a Medal of Freedom, presented at the SOTU address, and a private meeting with the President in the Oval office.
And to think it all started years ago like this….comment image

cthulhu

Scott Presler is cool, and he deserves attaboys and recognition, but Rush just got a MoF, and he’s been fighting the good fight for decades. If they start getting handed out like gold stars, they’ll be devalued — I mean, didn’t Slow Joe get one? Pretty soon they’ll be as reviled as Nobel Peace Prizes.

ForGodandCountry

While you have a point, it’s too late. They already have been handed out like gold stars. \_😐_/
My interest is in what it would mean to Presler, personally…
…who I would actually like to see run for office.

cthulhu

+++ for running for office. His slogan could be “I plan to clean up the place”.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!
“Maybe Baltimore can’t be cleaned up, after Pelosi’s dad, but at least I tried.”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Updating our previous discussion of absentee voting, THIS is of interest. I don’t know if this is a state thing, but it’s definitely a THING.

ForGodandCountry

you can’t spell democrat without “rat”.

Cuppa Covfefe

And “demo” is 80 percent of DEMON…
(could also be said of dog-and-pony-show product presentations, but I digress)…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

For those who are thinking of personally investigating HCQ – another experience…..

Gingersmom2009

OK here goes. Sometime last week, somebody OT posted a comment about buying HCQ online from India – as in “had already purchased, done deal.” Anyone have any experience with this? I know they manufacture a lot of generics. I have to admit it’s intriguing.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Interesting!

Gail Combs

“…I know they manufacture a lot of generics…..”
That is good to know esp. if Chyna decides to try and blackmail the USA by stop selling (or adulterating) medication.
As I said yesterday, I think President Trump has already planned for this and to shift away from Chyna to India, Israel & Japan as well as the USA.

notasmidgeon

I remember reading the same. Was wondering if it was here and was it 1st hand experience. I put in a request for info to the site and rec’d about 15 offers over the next few days. So, do we trust that it’s the correct medication? I did not even check out how you’d pay for the meds. I do have the HCQ protocol for 7 days but from Corcination back a few months ago.

Gingersmom2009

7 days? It’s a once-daily loading dose for 5 days, then once a week going forward, always with zinc. Zelenko recommends just staying on the once weekly until the virus is done. I do quercitin/C and zinc on the other days.
I’ll just come out and say it. Right now, my order is at JFK customs. We’ll see – if it doesn’t grow legs and walk it may just make it to my door. 😂

notasmidgeon

Original Corcination dosage was one twice a day for 5 days. Corsination has changed their protocol somewhat. It also depends upon whether you’re taking it for a strong exposure or if you have early symptoms.

Gingersmom2009

This is incorrect. Twice a day is if you HAVE the virus, plus azithromycin 500mg once a day/5 days, plus 50 mg chelated zinc. Right from the letter Zelenko wrote to POTUS. This is the protocol. Preventive is one pill a day for 5 days, with daily zinc. Then once a week.

notasmidgeon

Sorry if my comment was not clear enough. If infected, yes the protocol……HCQ BID x5 days along with the rest of the protocol.

Gingersmom2009

Is it indiamart.com that you searched?

notasmidgeon

I did receive email from IndiaMart and about 4 or 5 other places, to include one from Apple Pharmaceuticals……I have not checked them out.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BWAHAHAHAHA!

ForGodandCountry

Are we sure she is trying to get out the vote…
….or is she just dropping by to see all her old “friends” who decided to commit suicide under mysterious circumstances?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – a Clinton administration reunion!!!

ForGodandCountry

I can hear her now…
“Look, what’s past is past. What difference does it make at this point? We gotta stop Trump NOW! Can I count on you?”

gil00

Thats a lawsuit right there.

Cuppa Covfefe

They were alive until Biden spoke to them….
(bored to death, but all listed as COVID-19 casualties)…

cthulhu

BONUS!!!
No mask necessary….

Teagan

Except they’ll make them mandatory over the tombstones! LOL. Virtue signaling, you know…like Biden gettin off the plane yesterday wearing a mask.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Speaking back to lying Islamic corruption.

ForGodandCountry

Excuse me, but no democrat gets to talk about mass shooters after a Bernie supporter showed up in DC and tried to kill all the GOP congressmen at their baseball practice in 2017…
…least of all this incestuous, corrupt, anti-American runt.comment image

churchmouse

And he travelled all the way from Illinois to do it.

Teagan

Wonder what God she’s referring to?

Gingersmom2009

Lying to the infidel is mandatory.

ForGodandCountry

H/T kalbokalbs who posted this late last night
WARNING: Put your drink down and swallow your sip before hitting “play”. 😉
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMFYk-y_rVY

cthulhu

Oh, yeah! Quickthinking standers-by FTW!!!

TheseTruths

With excellent aim!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It was perfectly pitched!

Cuppa Covfefe

A “Cone of Silence” that actually works 😆

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Day-Glo Dunce Hat was HERS!!!

cthulhu

I just saw FG&C do grammar downthread.
The previous comment is actually using the voice of various news readers in John Brunner’s 1968 novel, “Stand on Zanzibar” (set in 2010). It’s actually not too different from the way we actually speak in 2020 — but it is not me speaking in my natural voice today.
I should also note that I frequently use word choices and grammar borrowed from various sources in various comments, and nobody should take it as a horrorshow tolchock in the yarbles.

Valerie Curren

“a horrorshow tolchock in the yarbles.”
Translation please? If you (or someone else) wouldn’t mind 🙂

cthulhu

https://courses.nus.edu.sg/course/ellpatke/en4241/nadsat%20dictionary.htm
Nadsat is the Russianized English youth slang in the novel “A Clockwork Orange” by Anthony Burgess.

Valerie Curren

Thanks! I neither read it nor saw the movie…

NurseSusy

Is there video of an English sign language expert signing that? Maybe Biden’s sign language person could sign it. LOL!

Valerie Curren

Signing in Clockwork Orange (Man Bad) would be simpler!

Gingersmom2009

OMG, and adding the Luda – now that’s priceless.

Valerie Curren

This info is infuriating & massively damning on autism “causation”–no Words! Even if it had gone public back then it was already too late to have helped Josiah (& so many others) tragically…

ForGodandCountry

All part of the plan to drive up medical costs, put increased strain on America(ns), pile on stress and worry, etc., etc.
After all, dims never let a crisis go to waste, esp. if they can manufacture the crisis in order to “fundamentally change” something…
…like our healthcare system, for instance.

Valerie Curren

& the damage to kids, families, schools, etc is incalculable. These people are truly evil!

Coldeadhands

This should be ranked amongst the first in the hierarchy of evils committed against the public.

Valerie Curren

Top 10 or at least Top 100…
The Genocide of Abortion is at/near the top of my list!!!

Gail Combs

For what it is worth VETS recommend waiting until 2 months (weaning time) for lambs and goat kids and 4 months for foals (weaning time for horses) WHY ever would we not wait until weaning time for humans???
You want immunity? Then you make sure MOM has her shots BEFORE birth and then she passes that immunity on to the baby via the first milk (colostrum) of what ever mammalian species. 🙄
No one our ‘Lords and Masters’ want to do away with independent farmers. We are grounded in reality and not as easily bamboozled by FAKE AUTHORITY like the GDG.

Gail Combs

GDG = CDC (not wearing my glasses)

Valerie Curren

Breast is Best! God knew what He was doing in All His designs, including protecting babies by giving them immunity through the most natural early feeding process. No matter how sophisticated the science formula will never fully touch Mommy Milk, as we used to call it around here…
You haven’t lived in the breast milk competition arena until you’ve spent time on the baby heart surgery floor, with dedicated breast milk fridge & freezer & community breast pump room, thankfully with curtain dividers for some privacy.
Placing your milk in the cooling box means getting a view of everybody else’s milk. Mine looked like the thinnest skim milk you could imagine, almost translucent pale blue (my body never willingly gave up one fat cell, even to nourish my offspring). Some moms’ milk was Thick w/ orange looking cream filling like half the bottle.
Those were some crazy days starting w/ twins in the NICU & then one home after a week & a half, which meant dividing time between “home” (really my parents’ house) & hospital to care for & feed both babies. Brandon nursed fine but after Every Feeding I had to pump milk for 20 mins to collect for Josiah who was in the hospital for 2 1/2 months…
Once J had open-heart surgery he was no longer allowed my milk so then I was pumping for Brandon while I stayed bedside w/ J for like 2 weeks before he came home…
I’m pretty forgetful of A Lot of stuff (& plenty of it I blocked out for survival’s sake) but it’s pretty tripping to have a less than 2 1/2 pound baby who is too weak to latch on for direct nutrition. He had such growth challenges that before heart surgery they fortified my milk w/ “human milk fortifier” & MCT oil (medium chain triglyceride). After surgery it was Portagen + Moducal + MCT oil…oh & an additional month of hospitalization after he first came home divided between 2 RSV scenarios at the beginning & end of the year & “emergency” surgery on hernias in the groin too soon after open heart…that insanity was before autism was on the scene, or at least “known”…
Sorry for that ramble, but I am thankful that I was able to provide Josiah with the first 2 months of milk, even if it had to be fed to him through a gavage tube!

grandmaintexas

You are a heroine. You are my heroine.

Valerie Curren

Wow, Grandma (perhaps younger than me though I have no grandkids yet)–Thanks. Blush emoji, if I knew how to make it appear <3

grandmaintexas

I’m very fortunate to be a youngish gma. My kids all had kids early. Expecting my ninth biological grand baby in a couple months, plus two sweeties by marriage.
Young enough to take grands for the weekend, old enough to be glad to hand them back on Sunday. 😂🤣

Valerie Curren

Sounds like the best of all possible worlds. What a blessing you & they all are! Hope the birth goes well for #9/11!

grandmaintexas

Wow!! I didn’t think of that. 😁😁😁

grandmaintexas

We are dealing with vaccine injury with one of my grandkids. Stopped all vaccines and he is beginning to catch up. Sweetest little guy.
When it happens to your kids, the fury is indescribable.

Valerie Curren

Yes I KNOW…though I don’t Know that vaccines were the cause w/ Josiah, but likely a contributing factor to exacerbate underlying fragilities…
How old is the effected grandchild?
Josiah has come Such a long way from the days when people thought he’d never walk nor talk, never read nor write (not all issues because of autism)…sigh…but the Years of sorrow & heartaches & battles & confusion…
I Feel for you & your family. Autism can be & perhaps Is a gift, but it’s not one I would have ever Registered to receive, but then I am pretty selfish. Autism peels off the layers of your own masks & can force a violent transparency upon relationships & interactions & we don’t always, or is it ever, get to choose the time or place of our unmasking & their undoing. God be with you ALL!

grandmaintexas

He is just five. Just learning to hold a pencil after two years of ‘school.’ Processing issues, and such.
Very thin, although that is beginning to resolve. His appetite has grown enormously over summer. Mom limits the sugar.
He taught himself to swim in one day. Getting free of the life jacket has freed his inner dolphin. Love him so much. If he ever learns to process better he will be a force to reckon with.

Deplorable Patriot

My eight year old special needs nephew, well, it’s a long story, but he’s developmentally delayed, and in the last three years, he’s been catching up, and this summer it accelerated. He taught himself “Let’s all go to the lobby” with perfect pitch in less than two days.
Just because they’re special needs doesn’t mean they aren’t smart, just that they learn at their own speed and do things differently.

grandmaintexas

Exactly.

Valerie Curren

5 is a fun age & just in the early days of schooling.
We dealt with plenty of processing stuff, auditory, visual, sensory, executive functioning, etc…
Has he ever had NeuroPsych Testing? Josiah had NPT several times over the years. Often the info obtained was very helpful.
If special ed would have acted on the info that would have been Amazing…not their style to listen to anyone but themselves & they hated when I brought in stuff that outshone their work & would have meant they would actually have to put in effort to meet Josiah’s needs–whatever…I’m straying into an arena of heavy baggage (for me) so I’ll leave it there…
Your grandson sounds really special. Love the Inner Dolphin concept too 😉

grandmaintexas

This is the problem…the school district refuses to test him until he is in first grade.
But I will ask my daughter. She has done a lot of research and has been using some different things with him.
Thank you!!

Valerie Curren

With autism spectrum Early diagnosis & Early Intervention is Crucial to maximizing development. Having a cooperative & helpful school district only exists in theory, at least in my experience.
Finding a provider w/ familiarity in dealing with autism spectrum issues is Vital. Josiah’s main doctor for most of his life has a practice dedicated to special needs kids & families & now has an autism clinic. There are medical, social, therapeutic, dietary, & educational interventions that are all important components of assisting the child in healthier development.
Spiritual interventions can be a key aspect of more appropriate development. In Josiah’s case spiritual interventions were some of what he was most resonant with: prayer, praise, scripture, preaching, Christian kid’s entertainment–Veggie Tales, BibleMan, Adventures in Odyssey, Donut Repair Club–& even a comic-based kid’s Bible, that he still uses & loves! have all been helpful along w/ biblically based messaging & parenting including a forgiveness routine that helped our whole family carry fewer grudges…
My experiences of dealing with the school system in Michigan has made me pretty jaded on the topic, I’m sorry to say. They are the gatekeepers to so many interventions & if you cannot afford to pay for quality interventions apart from “free” school offerings (as was our case) you can be pretty stuck. If we’d had money we would have gotten the Best interventions we could have purchased & then sued the crap out of special ed to (attempt to) Make them pick up the tab for what they should have provided all along; but even if we never got reimbursed our son would have received what he needed!
I could say more & have written on these topics quite a few times. If you want more info I’ll share links or further insights, just let me know…
Bottom line is Don’t Take NO for an answer. Schools are legally mandated to provide certain interventions. One way they can dodge the mandate is to avoid the “diagnosis” all together. By delaying intervening for a kid on the Spectrum they are already committing educational malpractice!
Here’s a beginning intro to part of the rabbit hole, if you dare:
WrightsLaw.com
I suggest clicking on topics in the left column (or searching if the site format has changed) like Autism, Early Intervention, Know Your Rights, etc…If they offer state level info that can be helpful to tailor your actions based on the state the child lives in.
It’s a seriously Big Twinkie to have a kid on the Spectrum & advocacy & self-education can help you to be better prepared to do what must be done to battle on behalf of your kiddo…other parents live in denial as to the nature & severity of their kid’s needs or swallow whole whatever schools tell them remaining oblivious to what is available & even mandated under existing laws. Their obliviousness may let them sleep at night in their ignorance but their child is almost always not having their individual needs adequately addressed by whatever school districts offer on their own without bringing pressure to bear. Forewarned is forearmed!
I hope your grandson’s school district is one of the better & more responsive ones, but I wouldn’t hold my breath! You & your daughter know this child best & have to live with the outcomes of interventions, or the lack thereof…So Pray, Learn, & Act…& don’t give up! Get whatever help you need & keep fighting the good fight! (Grand)Mama Bears!!!
Here’s a retrospective view from being more at the end of that road that also exposes problems at the beginning of our experiences in advocating for our son…I’m not going to re-read it right now since Josiah & I are hoping to head out of town today & I want to keep my BP down!
God Bless you, your daughter, & your special grandson. Bathe them & the battles in prayer & Don’t Give Up!
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2016/02/18/commenting-on-only-the-rich-will-have-rights-article/

grandmaintexas

Thank you so much for this! I will share with my daughter. She has gotten stonewalled by the school district from the start, and has felt helpless. With five kids, she has her hands full.
I will share this with her today. My sister went through this with both her kids, but she had money and was able to force the school to do the right thing. Both her kids are in top notch colleges right now.
She has said essentially the same thing you are saying.
Thank you again. I know it is an emotional thing. I’m all revved up now, knowing that our education bureaucrats are not invested in helping.

Valerie Curren

I only had 4 kids but that was within 4 years because the twins were in the middle. With 5 kids I would guess that life could be pretty overwhelming without special needs challenges being thrown in the mix.
I wonder if she can Delegate some of the research to you & then you can present some of the material, winnowed down, to her for decision making & action points…
I occasionally had my mom &/or dad & sometimes my husband come to the IEP (Individualized Educational Planning) meetings to set the course of Josiah’s special ed trajectory. There were mixed bag results depending on how unified the family was in our approach…
If your grandson was Officially diagnosed with an autism spectrum condition whoever gave the diagnosis may be able to point your daughter toward local/regional resources.
We used to get a number of therapies through the local Community Mental Health organization. We got PT, OT, Speech Therapy, Sensory Integration Therapy, Family Therapy/Psychologist, Social Work, Wrap-Around Services (well more in theory than in practice), Art Therapy, Social Skills Group Therapy, & assistance in accessing Respite Care & Community Living Supports services (both of which are still being used). Sometimes we received some services &/or therapies in the home, which was convenient…
Early intervention is Crucial with autism so the earlier the services are obtained, (& the higher quality they are) the greater the theoretical impact they might have…
We got the bulk of the best care at the University of Michigan Hospital, which is a teaching hospital & a top hospital in the nation & even the world, depending on what’s being measured. It took A Lot of effort & A Lot of time but those many interventions were very beneficial to Josiah overall. The year I took off from more aggressively pursuing them I could practically watch him going downhill before my eyes.
On the other hand, the fact that there are 4 other kids in the home there are numerous opportunities for “appropriate” socialization just within the family dynamics of regular life… 😉
Oh my other comment thought your sister was another daughter, so switch those thoughts around for them to make sense (in theory)…
So I’m getting a bit mentally fragmented so I’ll share a couple items that Might be helpful for you &/or your daughter going forward…I hope some of this might bless you…
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/being-a-special-needs-mom/
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2018/09/04/special-needs-parenting-some-ancillary-aspects-encouragements/
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2017/06/13/thoughts-on-i-cant-do-this-special-needs-life/
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2018/09/05/autism-empathy-christs-indwelling/
God Bless You all & guide each of you on the Path that He has prepared for you! In Jesus’ Love

grandmaintexas

Only four kids! I had three and could barely keep up, let alone deal with the challenges of special needs.
I will share all this with my daughter…she will be visiting tomorrow. It is a touchy subject, but if I put on my Big Mama pants again I think she and I can make some progress on this.
I know early intervention is crucial, which makes me crazy watching precious time go by.
The other kids do give him a social plus. His speech is slightly behind, but not too bad. Fine motor skills are doing a bit better in the last few months. Swimming seems to help with that for some reason. Maybe just an overall thing.
Thank you again. And I will say some special prayers for you and your son today. ❤

Valerie Curren

Thanks! We always appreciate & need prayers. Josiah & I are planning to head out of town in a few hours for an extended stay at my parents’ cottage in Northern Michigan. We’ve both needed this escape since his hospitalization with the bout of rejection of his transplanted liver.
I hope your conversation & fellowship with your daughter is productive & that the Lord gives you the wisdom, patience, & creativity to present your thoughts to her in a manner that she can hear & receive! God Bless your journey!!!
Please feel free to let me know how things are going & if there’s any way I can assist you.
If you don’t see me on the Q-Tree you can always drop a line at any of those SpecialConnections posts. I’ll have limited internet access for the next week & a half, so if I don’t get back with you right away please be patient, it’ll happen eventually 😉
God’s Blessings Abound to You All! In Jesus’ Love

grandmaintexas

Have a safe and blessed stay at the cottage.
I lived in Livonia and Birmingham for much of my youth. Michigan will always hold a warm spot in my heart.
Thank you again. God bless and keep you.

Valerie Curren

Thanks. Nice to know there’s a Michigan connection we share. I grew up in Dearborn & lived away from Metro Detroit for about 15 years–10 for college & grad school in Tulsa, OK & then 5 in Gaylord, MI where we’re headed tonight.
My brother moved to Dallas from Tulsa a few years ago, but I think he still considers himself a Michigander…at least I hope he does 😉
Hope things go very well for you all tomorrow!

Valerie Curren

I’m going to be so bold as to share a prayer for you now, no offence meant in any of it.
Heavenly Father, I lift up my precious sister-in-Christ known to me only as GrandmaInTexas. I pray that you guide her research & her studies into materials & concepts that she believes can benefit her daughter & grandson.
Send your Holy Spirit to overshadow the conversations & interactions that will be happening tomorrow, & beyond. May You guide & direct both of them every step of the way. May you soften the daughter’s heart & temper the mother’s tongue so their own complex relationship dynamics won’t hinder this important conversation.
Help them both to Speak the Truth in Love!!!
I pray for this precious grandson that You would overshadow his life with Your Presence, that You would guide & guard him & make smooth & straight paths for his feet.
Bring people & services & connections to this extended family that will minister grace & healing to areas needing intervention. Be glorified in & through this process. Use this little boy Mightily for Your Kingdom!
I ask all these things in Jesus’ Name

grandmaintexas

Thank you, Valerie. Never offended when a fellow follower of Christ prays for me and mine.
Beautiful prayer, and I know it will bear fruit. Hugs.

Valerie Curren

How did your conversation end up going with your daughter? Hope you are enjoying your holiday weekend! Blessings

grandmaintexas

Started it…
She is looking forward to me sharing resources tomorrow. 😄

Valerie Curren

Great news…hope it continues to go well!

grandmaintexas

Wow. I just read what you went through. Unfreaking believable. I don’t know how you all survived that kind of institutional abuse.
The system is rigged.

Deplorable Patriot

Just to add a little bit to this, my nephew is NOT autistic, it turns out, but the local school district desperately wanted him to be. One neurologist came out with a diagnosis on the spectrum, and that allowed my brother and his wife to get a state sponsored scholarship in Florida for him to be in a private school. Now that we know what the real issue is, dealing with it is different than dealing with an autistic child. Thankfully, my sister has an early childhood development degree and knew how to connect with him. He’s made a lot of progress in the last year.

grandmaintexas

That is wonderful!

Valerie Curren

Yes the system Is rigged & the bureaucrats are invested in Looking like they are complying & doing things to meet needs but not Actually addressing real needs nor even finding mechanisms to evaluate effectiveness & get positive change.
Frankly we had much better responsiveness when our son was in special ed pre-school. The fact that special ed law has a whole section on early intervention, possibly IDEA part B, means the feds Know that there must be intervention for certain at-risk kids prior to kindergarten.
We started special needs life when we lived in a much less populated county in Northern Michigan. We got connected to the Early On Program (birth to age 3 then later age 5?) & because of Josiah’s many issues had early evaluations from medical, therapeutic, educational, & community health arenas. We also had to deal with the Developmental Assessment Clinics for roughly his first year…
We used to have PT, OT, Speech therapy, & teaching in the home up to age 3. Once he hit age 3 he went to Special Ed Preschool & the program he went to was based on his educational diagnosis, which was POHI (Physically or Otherwise Health Impaired).
I chose the particular special ed preschool because that facility also had PT, OT, Speech Therapy, & Social Work as part of their programming, based on the child’s needs. He had that one summer in an autism program (I think I mentioned that in the Only the Rich Will Have Rights post) & they wondered why he hadn’t been there All Along! We NEVER had an autism diagnosis educationally for our son even though we had a medical autism spectrum diagnosis by 2000 & Josiah graduated HS in 2015.
His special ed coordinator/teacher in HS once mentioned in an aside to me conversationally that she “knew” he was on the spectrum. Of course neither she, nor any other staff person, ever advocated for recognizing Autism Spectrum as an educational diagnosis let alone Individualized Need…whatever.
I doubt our experiences w/ battling special ed are necessarily unique even if the magnitude & breadth of issues we faced may have been–heart surgery, brain tumor, liver transplant, multiple other medical challenges in addition to Autism & ADHD & all the sensory, processing, attentional, impulse, emotional, communication & other challenges we wrestled with…
Honestly I think it’s possible that if we remained in Northern Michigan that small town & county may have really bent over backward to Attempt to meet Josiah’s needs. We ended up moving into Metro Detroit, Wayne County (which includes Detroit) being the most heavily populated county in the state. So we had a system that was overwhelmed at the county level & a local city who was populated by incredibly arrogant people who refused to accept any outside info, including Special Ed Law (fed & state) that they were Mandated to abide by…
I hope your daughter gets the help & support she needs to do what must be done for your grandson, & if you live nearby perhaps you (given your enthusiasm & passion on the topic) can be part of that team.
There Used to be special needs advocacy training when Josiah was young. I heard about it too late to participate. It offered books, classes, & fellowship/community with others advocating for their kids. I’m such a loner & was often overwhelmed with what was happening w/ Josiah that I almost never availed myself of such community scenarios.
Perhaps between your daughter, yourself, & your other daughter even if she cannot find “community” resources you as the family can provide all the community & support needed to advocate (& get results) for your grandson.
I’m pretty sure that you/she/he has the Right to an Independent Educational Evaluation, paid for by the school system, per IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education Act). Everything from now on needs to have a written documentation involved because you have to begin to think in terms of the lawsuit inevitably necessary to get the school system to do what the law requires–as in prep for one so you can avoid one.
So she needs to document the dates & people she’s spoken with in writing & perhaps quote chapter & verse of IDEA Guaranteeing that IEE & then sending copies of that documentation to the director of special ed in the local school district, county, & an advocacy organization, if she can find one…Some autism entities or Protection and Advocacy organizations (free tax payer funded advocacy) or the ARC or other disability organizations May be able to provide an assist.
This post also has some practical info that might help…
https://specialconnections.wordpress.com/2019/01/05/comfort-in-suffering/
God be with you all as you seek to protect & provide for the many needs your grandson has or will have!

grandmaintexas

There must be a great reward in Heaven waiting for you, Valerie. The grace you exhibit is from God, for sure.
My daughter is good at documentation. She manages to be very organized with paperwork and such. Her son’s diagnosis was medical at around 3 years old.
But the school said they don’t test until first grade. I will see if that can be challenged.

Valerie Curren

Organizational skills put her ahead of me by light years. Paperwork is my nightmare & my husband put all sorts of my boxes & bags of stuff away in the basement &/or garage after our last special ed due process hearing fell apart & if ever I ask for help to unearth things it creates a tornado of chaos emotionally & relationally so so far it’s not been worth it…
Here’s a few WrightsLaw pages that might help you guys…
This first one deals w/evaluations…
https://www.wrightslaw.com/info/test.index.htm
autism & related, lots here
https://www.wrightslaw.com/info/autism.index.htm
referrs to denying services…
https://www.wrightslaw.com/blog/?p=1970
above is one of the links from this eligibility info…
https://www.wrightslaw.com/info/elig.index.htm
a couple other items from the above section:
https://www.wrightslaw.com/advoc/ltrs/eric_eligibility_disputes.htm
https://www.wrightslaw.com/blog/?p=3402
This one is school won’t help w/autism
https://www.wrightslaw.com/blog/?p=23
Texas specific info:
https://www.yellowpagesforkids.com/help/tx.htm
I’m almost positive that it is Illegal for them to delay testing. This Might be a ploy to avoid having to provide services…hmmm…
Keep up the good work, it’s worth it & you can be giving your daughter & grandson a lifelong blessing by assisting them to get what is needed!
Thank you for your kind words above, I appreciate your insights. Blessings!!!

TakeBackOurRepublic

The majority of mothers are negative when tested during pregnancy so why the hell would the Hep B vaccine be required (on the schedule) at birth? After watching that clip, it appears they’ve known for over 20 years that it increases autism by 1125% so forced vaccination has assured the skyrocketing rate of autism we’ve seen. My grandson was born at 31 weeks and stayed in the NICU for about 10 days. The NICU nurse requested consent to give it to him before his release when he only weighed 4-1/2 lbs even though mother had tested negative during pregnancy. It’s criminal.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is a stalwart defender of children. of A lot of great info can be found at his site ChildrensHealthDefense.org

Valerie Curren

Is your premie grandson doing OK? My twins were born at 33 1/2 weeks to save “the little guy’s life”. They were 5# 4oz & 2# 6oz at birth, w/ Josiah being the little guy (he’s still smaller than his twin as they approach age 25). Brandon was also in the NICU for 10 days, they kept him mostly due to jaundice.
I actually have no recollection of vaccine situations early on for any of my kids. But once Josiah was found to be on the Spectrum I began declining kids’ vac’s almost entirely…
It’s criminally evil that these injuries can be inflicted on children & their families. That it has been known for more than 2 decades the risk factors could have been reduced, even just by altering the Schedule…I have no words! I wonder how much money is changing hands & if providers are being coerced into pressuring families on the early vaccines. I have had to fight doctors who shamed & pressured me to vaccinate my kids even when I presented arguments based on objective analysis of Amish & other non-vaccinating cultures having the same incidence of childhood illnesses but significantly lower autism rates, but it was like talking to a wall. Thankfully my state allows (or at least did when my kids were school age) parents to sign vaccine waivers & still attend school–whatever…
Thanks for the RFKjr info! Blessings on you & your family 🙂

TakeBackOurRepublic

Their evil is intentional and now they don’t even hide it. There are many things driving the plandemic but one thing for certain is TPTB intend to eliminate choice of any and all vaccinations for everyone regardless of age on the planet. The loss of that choice will be ushered in with the mandatory COVID vaccine. We need to fight this with every ounce of our beings because our lives depend on it.
There are no arguments you can win with the vaccine cult pediatricians as we found out from experience. After multiple attempts to give my son & DIL time to “come to their senses about vaccines” (I kid you not, they sent threatening letters), the practice released, aka FIRED, them from their care. Fortunately I asked my alternative physician for a recommendation since his daughter is the same age and that’s how they found a doctor that would work with them. To back it up they got a County issued certificate of exemption in order to get the kids into Pre-K and school.
They never investigated what caused my grandson to be born 8-1/2 weeks preterm but he’s doing fantastic. As expected he lagged behind a bit the first year but you’d never know it now and he’s almost 6. He has an older sister. Neither have been vaccinated. I’ve never seen healthier kids, neither have ever had ear infections, allergies, asthma, or any of the myriad of “disease” states that today’s younster’s are plagued with. When they catch something their immune systems destroy it within 24-48 hours. It’s true, as you attempted to argue, that the unvaccinated Amish children don’t have the health issues that are found in the vaccinated group. They should be the control group used to prove the side effects caused by vaccinations but the results would highlight the very issues that need to be buried.
Josiah sounds like a miracle baby! When was he diagnosed in the spectrum? Do you recall if it coincided with one of the vaccines? You were smart to recognize and say no. My youngest is also 25. He started having irritable bowel syndrome going into his 6th grade year. Coincidentally it started after the required booster shots to get into middle school. I took him to the pediatrician many times to find out the cause only to finally be told that his problems were not physical but psychological. I was outraged having witnessed him in physical debilitating pain for almost a year! We left that practice and stopped future vaccines. It took about 3 years for his undiagnosed IB issues to resolve but the experience led me down the rabbit hole of alternative medicine and news that I still live in today!
Blessings back to you and your family!

Valerie Curren

Wow that is amazing & infuriating…especially the “being fired” from the care of a pediatrician. It must have really hurt at the time but then meant everyone ultimately was much better off.
I don’t recall if there was a vaccination & autism link w/ Josiah. So many things happened the first few years, surgeries & hospitalizations, therapeutic interventions, etc. that I have no clear recollection of the timeline.
He was diagnosed on the spectrum by a behavioral pediatrician sometime before he turned 5. I recall noting certain “autistic” features when he was around age 2. It seemed like he was more interactive as a very young baby, eye contact & smiling & that he tended to pull more into himself & even tune out his surroundings.
I have a vivid memory of him in his high chair & we were calling his name. It was like he couldn’t hear us at all. My mom, who was visiting at the time, said his name & touched him on the tip of his nose & it was like she’d pressed the “on” button. It was fairly dramatic.
I would Never claim that Josiah’s autism spectrum issues were caused by vaccines necessarily. They likely played a part especially given how young he was when symptoms began showing.
However there were several medical complexities that likely contributed to his autistic like challenges. By the way when he was diagnosed on the Spectrum it was called PDD-NOS (Pervasive Developmental Disorder Not Otherwise Specified) aka Atypical Autism,.
In retrospect his Congenital Absence of the Portal Vein, the underlying structural abnormality in his liver vasculature that ultimately lead to the Liver Transplant, may have been a large factor in “autism”. The Portal Vein arises from the large intestines & shunts blood to the liver for filtration. In Josiah’s case what should have been the portal vein went from his intestines Directly into a heart chamber & bypassed his liver entirely. I believe this lead to a level of toxicity throughout his body & organ systems in particular. One reason I speculate this is because once he had his liver transplant, when he was 17, it was like he suddenly went through a degree of mental & emotional “puberty”. He began to see that people he thought were his friends were actually mocking him & when they laughed it was at him & not with him.
This abrupt insight came along fairly quickly after transplant as, I believe, the more normal liver bloodflow allowed the reduction of toxins in his body…
Anyway the liver situation & various neurological issues were connected to his autism, I believe. So even if vaccines played a part, & given his liver’s diminished capacity to handle detoxification prior to transplant how could that toxic cocktail Not have adversely effected him, I couldn’t still make the leap to say Caused autism in him.
Wow I suddenly hit a mental wall, it’s 4am & I need to get some sleep. I’d been hoping to find a comment I shared, at Stella’s Place, I believe, that articulated Josiah’s primary care doctor’s take on the impact of vaccinating neurologically fragile kids too young & at times when other medical challenges made it harder for their bodies to handle the overload of chemicals…
I’m on a borrowed computer & the search function is being difficult, so I’ll send you links to 2 possible locations for those remarks…also please forgive any typos, etc for I’m going to post this “as is” & not clean up my mess before heading off to bed!
https://stellasplace1.com/2019/01/07/vaccines-their-benefits-and-alleged-and-real-dangers/
https://stellasplace1.com/2019/07/21/as-vaccine-opposition-grows-those-who-suffered-complications-of-childhood-diseases-say-how-different-my-life-would-have-been/
Hope you enjoy the Holiday Weekend–Josiah & I are thankful to have made it safely out of town. Blessings!

TakeBackOurRepublic

It’s hard to fathom that Josiah was born at the weight that my runt puppy was when she came home in May at 8 weeks old. I was so nervous I thought I would accidentally hurt her because she was so light and fragile. I know that’s not a good comparison but it’s hard to wrap my head around how tiny Josiah was! I respect and admire the dedication, patience and love required to deal with the juggernaut of emotions caring for your son’s special physical and emotional needs. I believe that God gives special children to special parents!
I did find your comments at Stellas Place which I’ve visited a time or two before. She is so pro-vaccine that I can’t help but think she is paid Pharma opposition. She literally argues her position against every single comment posted…..except yours!
You provided so much real life information (not conjecture) and experiences directly with physicians relative to the possibility of damage by vaccine in YOUR son’s circumstance, that she couldn’t and thereby didn’t counter you. Otherwise I think she is a fanatic zealot who will not give any form of validity to the documented damages that they can and do cause. We don’t have secret vaccine courts because they are SO SAFE. Our government has indemnified the manufacturers of all harm so there is no reason for them to make them safe and every financial reason for them to continue to add them to the schedule. The manufacturers know the dangerous side effects. All one has to do is read the vaccine insert “Contraindications” and “Warnings and Precautions” to understand that a parent is entering their child in a lottery but some of the winnings (damages) are for life.
My sister’s son got Stephen’s Johnson syndrome as a side effect of vaccines. My 25 yo son (the same one that had the IB syndrome in 6th grade after his boosters) has the shingles virus lodged on his ear drum. How do you get shingles if you’ve never had chickenpox? I have to assume that it was caused by the chickenpox vaccine that he had at 5. His first shingles outbreak happened when he was 19 and it could’ve rendered him deaf had his ENT not recognized it as shingles and treated it aggressively. It’s now a dormant time bomb for the rest of his life.
I’m betting millions of families have stories like ours that never get linked to vaccines. Those children’s stories need to be told and heard. I recommend watching is VAXXED and VAXXED II. Get a box of kleenex.
Take care and enjoy your weekend getaway!

Valerie Curren

Wow, just wow!!! Thank you for sharing all of this real world perspective on vaccines. I’m guessing there is Zero Chance you’re going to be taking the Gates “mark of the beast” “depopulation” shot!!!!
The size differential for our twins was really mind-blowing, Josiah’s head was about the size of a baseball at birth. We had one of those “first foto” pictures taken of the twins when they were both still in the NICU & Brandon was obviously more than twice Josiah’s size. They were both jaundiced & J looked weak & lethargic in the photo.
When Brandon was graduating from 8th grade in Christian school they had a tradition of the principal making witty commentary “parting shots” using a series of family provided photos in an overhead format–lots of fun! Anyway I provided that first foto for that event & later was picking up my pics from the school office. The secretary looked at that twin pic & said in a voice of tremendous compassion “Oh what you must have felt!” & I was overwhelmed w/ that sensitivity (something I usually didn’t encounter during these many battle-weary years) & had to just walk out so as to not break down & cry…
Your puppy insight is no offence to me. I also chose the runt of the litter when I was like 4 years old & saw the neighbor’s dog give birth. That dog lasted until I was a freshman in college & grew up just fine & was full sized. Josiah is still smaller than Brandon & always will be, but at least he’s no longer 2 standard deviations below the 5th percentile, like he was most of his growing up years…
Well there’s lots of chaos here w/ J helping Grandma unload groceries after she bought out 3 stores in town, as usual 😉 Blessings!
PS I don’t know if “Stella” is in the pocket of Big Pharma, for she’s usually pretty reliable for conservative perspectives on so many issues. I would guess she has had a personal encounter with a “vaccine preventable” illness that made her jump on the vaccine bandwagon, or perhaps she’s worked in the healthcare industry (like my mom who’s a retired RN) & just can’t expand her thinking beyond certain “programming”, sadly. Just like vaccine injury has made you consistently be on the anti-vaccine train…a ride I’m increasingly planning to take!

TakeBackOurRepublic

What great conversation we’ve had. I wish I could add more but yippee it the holiday weekend and the company starts arriving in a couple hours. I appreciate all of your insights and wish you a blessed time with your family. You deserve it!

Valerie Curren

I’ve enjoyed our conversation too. Have a wonderful time with your family & enjoy the journey as it unfolds. God Bless!

Valerie Curren

Commies in Congress…say it isn’t so!
https://twitter.com/CarloVKag/status/1300447118302351362

ForGodandCountry

Our new DNI has a lot to say about this, I’d wager.

Valerie Curren

Yes!

singularzoe

Trevor Loudon is another who should perhaps get the Metal of Freedom.

Valerie Curren

Passing them out like candy now 😉

Gail Combs

Perhaps not a medal but an invite to the White House and acknowledgement of their contributions.

Valerie Curren

That would be Awesome!!!

bakocarl

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wheatietoo

Clip from Tucker’s Monday night show:
Attorney for Kyle Rittenhouse explains why Kyle was there…and how his actions were all in self defense.
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NurseSusy

What Tucker! No follow up question on who or how is trying to harm Kyle while in detention? Did the attorney mean by the bogus charges or at the jail Kyle’s at in Antioch, IL, as harm while in detention?

fleporeblog

News roundup has been posted if interested.

wheatietoo

Thanks, Fle!
Of course we’re interested!

Valerie Curren

This is very disturbing–Chicago Crime Capital 🙁
https://twitter.com/k9_bad/status/1300649861767933954

ForGodandCountry

Whoever wrote that SV News tweet is an embarrassment to the english language.
“formed have formed”? “on-site” vs. on-sight?
Geeez. 😏

Valerie Curren

Language police alerted, but their response time is worse than in Detroit for regular police 😉

ForGodandCountry

Forget the language police…what editor hired that person??

Valerie Curren

LOL!

Deplorable Patriot

Don’t get me started on the grammar of journalists.I was taught by nuns.

wheatietoo

Chad Wolf was also on Tucker’s Monday night show.
He talks about how ridiculous it is, for the Dems to blame Trump for the violence.
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Valerie Curren
Gail Combs

The jpg of that Krauthammer article:comment image
Also posted page 11 of Meme thread and archived.

Valerie Curren

That’s Great Gail…as usual, You Rock!!!

Valerie Curren
TheseTruths

I have not read the article and I don’t know the point it’s trying to make, but I came across a different perspective (and I know SD takes passive/aggressive swipes at AG Barr frequently):
DawsonSField on Twitter:
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I got to screenshot this nonsense.
Sundance is now accusing Trump’s DOJ & FBI of refusing to arrest an antifa murder suspect. After they spent month arresting antifa suspects.
He’s only one step from accusing Trump of ordering them to not arrest antifa murders. #NuckingFuts

Valerie Curren

Hmmm…I haven’t read the CTH article either, but thought it might be of interest here at the Q-Tree…
Per the tweet you shared it sounds like Sundance is outgrowing his big boy pants!

phoenixrising37

I love you Valerie, but I if I want to read some dude, I’ll go over there…
but I don’t want to read some dude… nor do I want to go over there…
and yes, my scroll button works and I know how to use it…

Gail Combs

It is none of the FBI, DOJ or POTUS business. The first thing I check was WERE the alleged shooter lived. Oregon is his home state so it is NOT Rioting across state lines. Therefore it is a LOCAL matter PERIOD.
Some Dude needs to do better research into the law and the subject before doing the bashing.

If POTUS or whoever has declared ANTIFA/BLM terrorist groups OFFICIALLY then maybe the DOJ would have jurisdiction. Otherwise it is local. Just like ILLEGAL Jose Ines Garcia Zarate was tried locally and found not guilty of murdering Kate Steinle.
“…Prosecutors in the case had argued that Garcia Zarate fired a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol — a weapon stolen from a Bureau of Land Management officer’s car in an unrelated auto burglary several days before — with the intent to kill….”
https://www.kqed.org/news/11633296/steinle-trial-verdict

phoenixrising37

Exactly Gail…

Valerie Curren

Wasn’t suggesting that Anyone read it…just mentioning CTH being mentioned in the Twit-verse 😉 Scroll away!

Valerie Curren

Oh & passive-aggressiveness is So Female! imho 😉 well & a tad light in the loafers “guy”-ish…
My real men family members specialize in straight up aggressiveness demonstrated in harnessed assertiveness!

TheseTruths

II went to the article.
ARTICLE: “The Portland police, the FBI and the United States Department of Justice have not arrested him; and the only logical conclusion to be gained from that reluctance is that Antifa supporter Reinoehl is also a supporter of Black Lives Matter and Joe Biden. Therefore no-one does anything.”
ME: This is how people get strung along: ⬆︎”the only logical conclusion” and ⬇︎”when you accept this reality”
ARTICLE: When you accept this reality, it is only then that we can start to fathom just how seriously screwed up the U.S. system of justice has become.
COMMENTERS ON THE SITE:
Nessie509 says:
August 31, 2020 at 10:59 pm
Hummm.
Wall Street Journal reporting that the shooter Is a person of interest?
Rebelchick says:
August 31, 2020 at 11:49 pm
This!!
Also as someone posted earlier there were arrests for the Utah attack.
Im surprised at this thread. I had to check and make sure I was reading Treehouse.
I barely reconize this tree anymore with all the freaked out irrational comments I have been reading here lately.
The perp will be arrested and I will even go as far to say the money bags behind this national destruction will also be arrested.
When is the only question.
Dont use how the commies quickly unlawfully arrest and over charge their enemies as a baseline for how real law enforcement works.
Enjoy life and stop the fear mongering.
ReglarMerican says:
September 1, 2020 at 12:04 am
Remember that Operation Legend took well over a 1,000 punks and dirtbags off the streets in short order. Those are probably now singing like birds revealing whatever they know about the network. It took us a while to build up the force before D-Day but when the day arrived … you know what happened.
The total numbers of rioter/arsonist/murderer thugs is small, amplified by the MSM megaphone. Portland is a small area physically opposed by the suburbs and upstate and back-country true Oregonians. Encircled. Lots of places for legit authority to assemble and prep. Then swoop in, done and done.

wheatietoo

Thank you, TheseTruths.
Sundance makes an assertion…then declares that it is “the only logical conclusion”…which it is not, no matter how much he pats himself on the back for making it.
Just what is it that the DOJ can arrest the shooter for?
Murder is a local matter, isn’t it?
What federal crime can the DOJ arrest Reinoehl for?
Reinoehl is a local…he lives there.
This is the tweet that DawsonSField was calling “nonsense”:
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So far this has not been declared a Fed crime, it’s a local murder. Barr isn’t involved, yet. Some Dude never misses an opportunity to rag on Barr, been doing it for years, IMO.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I suspect that ANTIFA is hiding Reinoehl – and using their “op-sec” to keep the authorities from finding where he is.
The attacks by ANTIFA on Ted Wheeler tonight are thus cover – they love the guy for protecting them, and they are giving him cover by appearing to be against him. Very communist!

Valerie Curren

Yes & see comments “today” by me & Gail (I think) where it appears that Rein (A) hole is Training youths that Appear to be MAGA (attired & w/flags)–perhaps so that they could put weapons in the MAGA costumed hands & then blame MAGA for the shootings which their people could conveniently document from afar to not identify individuals but just the movement being set up…
& the audio from before the shooting of Jay makes it sound like they were HUNTING for Trump supporters to shoot/kill!!!
Shades of WWI, Arch Duke Ferdinand, blame the Jews, or something…I mean whatever…the thing…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Very interesting!

Valerie Curren

😉

Gudthots

Carlos Osweda’s retraction of his first analysis and shocking conclusion that Jay was taken out by a well trained, 5 person hit squad … based on pre-hit audio of the team … appears to be correct. This seemed likely to me from some of the earliest reports. He also points out that their goal is to divide the country. That they have backing as evidenced by the fearless open manner that are doing this style of violence.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1300660528725909507.html

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Valerie said that Reinoehl was training some people who looked like they were dressed as MAGA. Have you seen any video of this? I’ve not heard anything about this until just now.

wheatietoo

I watched it.
Didn’t see any “training” going on.
Reinoehl was making nice with some MAGA people, just talking.
It looked to me like he was trying to infiltrate.
I will see if I can find it…and if I do, will post it downthread.
It was in yesterday’s thread, iirc.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, I know the clip you’re talking about. YES – infiltration for sure. This explain Reinoehl’s ambivalent, kinda MAGA, kinda ANTIFA look. He seemed to be shadowing the group. But note that HE was the one talking to the media. That’s interesting, and matches some of the people eagerly talking to the media in El Paso. Those people were contradicting the Spanish-speaking lady who spotted people in black and tactical gear as having been the ones shooting in the store. They had a different story. THAT is then very Sandy Hook. I think this is how the media self-feeds the fake news.

Valerie Curren

I said Appears to be training, not sure that that was my direct conclusion but probably more based on a conversation w/ another Q-Treeper, & I may have been speaking in a manner of attempting to summarize my impressions of our brief discussion (without re-reading our comments nor re-watching the video)…
The rest was then a Suggestion of what Might have been going on & speculation on motives, etc.
Please don’t think that something I offer “tentatively” or in summary of what I thought someone else said is to be taken definitively.
I appreciate All of the fact- checking & analysis around here so we can get things as close to Right (no pun intended) as possible! Blessings!!!
In fact, I’m not sure I turned the sound on for the video of the assassin speaking to MAGA attired youths. I may have Assumed that the youths were costumed since the interactions appeared peaceful & there was at least one sign “Black Lives Matter” on the edge of the group. I may have Assumed that the interactions being “peaceful” was “proof” they were all on the same side…& since the “trigger man” was Apparently now known that side would have had to have been the Left. Also, I thought Most/All of the MAGA types were connected to the vehicle parade & not in a pack of 1-2 dozen “kids” just out on the street…
Sorry if ANY of this lead anyone astray!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I sort of get it now. Reinoehl does look like he’s addressing the MAGA people, but I’m pretty sure he’s talking to a MEDIA person who’s somewhat hidden. So in a way, Reinoehl IS training them – as the 4th wall – which is really sinister.
Love to get a hold of that tape of him talking.

Valerie Curren

Catch them with their own words as well as their actions!

grandmaintexas

I haven’t read this yet. Thank you for sharing. Carlos sometimes bombs, like everyone else.

Gail Combs

Wolfie,
This is the comment with the video
Mine is next where I said he looked like he was doing some training given how he was standing facing them and they were relatively quietly except for the guy talking.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/08/31/dear-kmag-20200831-open-topic/comment-page-3/#comment-586288
Notice the guy talking said he had been to Hong Kong and said:
“I saw Millions of people UNITED AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT and that WOKE ME UP….”
Also it is only a 45 sec clip so we have no way of knowing exactly what was actually going on. Many clips are 2 minutes or more so why was this ONLY 45 seconds?
….
Just call me suspicious. I have seen too much gaslighting and ‘careful editing’ to ‘show’ one thing when it is actually something else.
We also know that ANTIFA has already stated they want to camouflage themselves as MAGA and that the DemonRats NEED DEAD BODIES at the hand of MAGA.

Gail Combs

Here is a interview of the suspected killer. Same guy I think was doing the training.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I suspect that Wheeler isn’t taking Reinoehl seriously, but a certain honeybadger is.

ForGodandCountry

Does anyone here happen to speak gobbledygook? Curious to know what he is saying.

Teagan

The very best response by someone on tweeter…”Nailed it,”. LOL
I would dearly love to be a fly on the wall at the meetings by the Biden support team on what to do!
And, one can only imagine what Comma La is thinking about being a part of this mess…maybe that’s why she’s in hiding, too.
I hope Jill Biden never has a peaceful day from now on to agree putting her husband through this humiliating experience. There comes a time when you say, “enough is enough.”

Gail Combs

Jill Biden wants to be the POWER behing the throne like Eleanor Roosevelt was. I think she is hoping to be a Hillary 2.0 version and maybe President after Biden.

Teagan

Oh yes…highly qualified.

Concerned Virginian

Gail Combs
Agreed about Eleanor Roosevelt, but I believe the concept goes back to EDITH GALT WILSON who was “the real President” along with COLONEL HOUSE, after Woodrow Wilson suffered his stroke.
If, GOD FORBID, Ole Joe does, by voter fraud, gain the Oval office, Jill Biden would be the Eleanor Roosevelt / Edith Galt Wilson figure — but who would be the Colonel House?
Short List of Colonel House contenders (which could ALSO be a GROUP effort):
Hillary Clinton (as “advisor to the President”)
Eric Holder
Sen. Sanders (would probably have to resign from the Senate first)
Sen. Schumer (would probably have to resign from the Senate first)
Gen. Mattis
Gen. McChrystal
Susan Rice

gil00

Love the Wyeth painting DP.
So…blm l.a. looking for their ouece o the action.. so sick of it.
Make L.A Great Again 🇺🇸 (@GuiltyHonkey) Tweeted:
Take a look at the #DijonKizzee hashtag. This is a guy that fought with police and was armed with a handgun.
BLM is already worshipping him

mollypitcher5

Locals trying to deescalate . Hope that works
https://twitter.com/TomasMorales_iv/status/1300668714035982338

Valerie Curren

Twit world doesn’t want too many to hear about Blacks leaving the dem plantation! Hope adding comment preserved the original tweet…

Valerie Curren

Kenosha Kyle’s defense taking shape…

ForGodandCountry

Kenosha Kyle??comment image

Valerie Curren

I liked the alliteration & couldn’t remember his last name; no disrespect intended!

Sadie Slays

4chan’s calling him the Kenosha Kid.

cthulhu

Someone posted, “Kenosha Kyle has shot a sex offender, a domestic abuser, and a violent communist. He’s only 17, and he’s halfway through my bucket list.”

Valerie Curren

LOL!!! Taking out the trash MAGAliciously!

Sadie Slays

September-October is false flag season, or, as the Satanists call it, “harvest season.” Keep an eye out on 9/1 (today), 9/10, and 9/11—9 and 1 tend to show up in their evil acts (COVID-19 being the most recent example). 9/7, 9/21, and 9/22 are Satanic holidays. Be safe, folks.

Valerie Curren

I think the 19 in Covid 19 was for the year of the discovery of that Novel Coronavirus…2019…But thanks for all those dates. Where does one learn “basics” on Satanic unholydays without too much risk?

Deplorable Patriot

The 19 is for the 19th virus of this type identified. SARS-Coronavirus 19 is the official name, with the SARS being what makes people so sick in the lungs.

Valerie Curren

OK, SARS=Sudden Acute Respiratory Syndrome, I believe…

Teagan

Not sure the year had anything to do with it but rather the “order.” I can see how the year could be mistakenly used.

Valerie Curren

I guess I’m mis-remembering & it’s bound to happen more & more as I sail toward those magic golden years 🙂

Teagan

That’s why we are all here, to “assist” on that voyage…speaking as one that has reached the shore. Still trying to discover the “magic”…think it might be an illusion. 😉

Valerie Curren

LOL…I’m trying to happily embrace the brain drain…& my family are thankful that they have a Slightly better chance of keeping up a bit now 😉

rayzorbak
Valerie Curren

Thanks Rayzor!

Cuppa Covfefe

Also 13 (and 31), 11, and multiples thereof.
18 is “special”, as is 999 (inverted 666)…

Gudthots

f it’s anything like the cultural appropriation of the rainbow, I’d like to take the entire number line back for God’s Kingdom please and thank you.

Valerie Curren

I Really hope the slow Joe video shows here…

Valerie Curren

Perhaps this reply to the original tweet above will have that video…
https://twitter.com/dystragonist/status/1300650046606716929

Concerned Virginian

And Ole Joe’s gaffe was DESPITE him reading the carefully-scripted speech that was being broadcast to him via what appears to be a LARGE flat-screen TV / huge TelePrompter — that was set up at the front of the tech team (see the “Lets look behind the curtain” photos on the Q Tree “News Round Up” lead today).

Valerie Curren

He’s a complete train wreck! If it were Only gaffes it would be a severe mercy…they are exploiting him & he might not even know it–just Wow!

Valerie Curren

Best idea I’ve heard in a Long Time!!! God Bless America as we seek His Face & turn from our wicked ways!
https://twitter.com/Wackylizard/status/1300580451992498176

Valerie Curren

I love the sky in the background in the above poster. It reminds me of many of the sunset skies we see over Otsego Lake in Northern, Michigan. We’ll be heading out, at least Josiah & I, in a couple days to enjoy an extended Cottage stay for the holiday weekend plus–thankfully this trip should include sufficient meds for J Not to go back into a greater liver rejection tailspin…
I have one of those sunsets as the avatar image, I think that’s what it’s called, for my main blog here:
SpecialConnections.wordpress.com
The neighborhood dock we use is in the foreground in the thumbnail below (hope it shows)…

Valerie Curren

Does anyone know how to pull the image of the 9/11 day of prayer & fasting off the original tweet?

bakocarl

Are you all set? Or will this help –comment image

Valerie Curren

Thanks Carl, that’s Exactly what I hoped someone could share. What a blessing & treasure & precious soul you are!!!

grandmaintexas

Thank you, Carl.
Just an aside. Intermittent fasting has allowed me to fast for days such as this with much greater ease. Am I still hungry? Yes. But I’m not distracted and angry and short tempered.
That is all. 😀

Valerie Curren

Ka-Boom! She nails it in under a minute 😉
https://twitter.com/CAMO__17/status/1300630934916665345

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Valerie Curren

If all this in the image is true it’s quite amazing! If God be for us who can be against us?
https://twitter.com/TheCaptain808/status/1300603912328826887

Valerie Curren

From the replies:
https://twitter.com/_Qmemes/status/1300660024792870912
Also, here are shorter individual Tucker videos:

mollypitcher5

It was also a borrowed rifle if I understood the vague explanation the lawyer gave yesterday. If that’s true, it wasn’t one that he was as familiar with as maybe on of his own ?

mollypitcher5

Arg..this reply ^^ supposed to be under the St. Kyle box

Valerie Curren

Yes. I remember reading a lot of twitter comments about how bad a– the kid was to shoot only people attacking him, shoot moving targets, shoot accurately from multiple positions. These guys (presumably) were lauding his mad skills, especially at just 17…sounding like he would be special forces material…
The hand of God guiding his hands & ordering his steps could indeed be a very relevant underpinning factor as to why things went as they did…
God Bless, Keep, Heal, Protect, Provide His Peace that passes understanding, & Hide Kyle under the Shadow of His Wings!!! In Jesus’ Name

wheatietoo

Here is that image, since it got cut off:
.comment image

Valerie Curren

Thanks Wheatie–Most Excellent!

mollypitcher5

I think the picture of him is the one where he’s wearing crocs. So many funny comments about that..like such a dork but a crack shot especially under extreme pressure

Sadie Slays

Kyle’s also 17 years-old. 17. Q. I remain unconvinced that this whole incident was organic.

wheatietoo

Wow, that’s right…17.
It was right in front of us, all this time.
Thanks, Sadie!
Did you hear Pres Trump say:
“We have em all.”
It was in his interview with Laura Ingraham, which aired last night.
She was talking about tracking these rioters that are showing up across the country.
It’s on Fle’s News Roundup thread.
I mentioned it here, too:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/09/01/9-1-20-news-roundup-kayleigh-mcenanys-press-briefing-pdjts-press-conference-60-of-rioters-arrested-in-kenosha-were-outsiders-tucker-carlsons-monologue-state-police-tel/#comment-586694

Sadie Slays

From 4chan:comment image
>Rittenhouse Square in Philadelphia is named after David Rittenhouse, an American astronomer, inventor and watchmaker
>At around the age of 17, David constructed a clock with wooden gears.[1][2] At the age of 19, he started a scientific instrument shop at his father’s farm in what is now Valley Forge Medical Center & Hospital, located in East Norriton Township, Pennsylvania. His skill with instruments, particularly clocks, led him to construct two orreries (scale models of the solar system), the first for The College of New Jersey (now known as Princeton University), the second for the College of Philadelphia (now known as the University of Pennsylvania)

wheatietoo

Wow.
This just gets curious-er and curious-er.
🤓😏

NurseSusy

17 years plus 8 months old. Will be on 1/3/2021

NurseSusy

will be 18 on 1/3/2021

Gail Combs

The charging document:comment image

Aubergine

All of the above is true. I verified it. St. Kyle of Kennocha was a woman, and was also known as Enoch.
https://catholicsaints.info/tag/name-kyle/
Antioch was referred to as “the cradle of Christianity.”
https://www.definitions.net/definition/Antioch
Grosskreutz really is “big cross” in German.
Wow.

Valerie Curren

Andy Ngo continues to be a National Treasure & his series of tweets for recent months & even before as he documented the attacks/assaults on him, etc., should be preserved as valuable historical accounts of events!

Gail Combs

This letter is just too good not to read it all.comment image

Valerie Curren

Yes!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They KNOW what they’re doing. They KNOW. Kate Brown and Ted Wheeler are part of a CONSPIRACY.

NurseSusy

The TV news story– Note the last paragraph when the sheriffs gave assistance in the past (no good deed goes unpunished)–
PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) – Law enforcement agencies around the state of Oregon say they will not be complying with a call from Governor Kate Brown to assist PPB with nightly protests in Portland. Governor Brown released a statement Sunday, specifically calling on the Clackamas County Sheriff’s Office, Washington County Sheriff’s Office and Gresham Police Department to help bring an end to nightly violence in Portland. She called it a plan for a unified law enforcement presence in the city.
“This is routine mutual aid agreements that have happened over the years, possibly decades in this region,” Brown said. “And we think that it’s really important at this point in time for the region to come together and help end the violence in the streets of Portland.” She said it’s something her office had been working on for a while. “We had been working on this plan for a number of days. I had reached out to a number of local elected officials, but this is a comprehensive, unified law enforcement approach,” she said.
Her plan also stated that the City of Portland would take on the cost of bringing in officers from other agencies and that Mayor Ted Wheeler would find a way to pay for it.
But, now those law enforcement agencies called on by the governor say they are not going. Both the Washington County sheriff and Clackamas County sheriff said they were not notified of this plan before it was released by Governor Brown.
In a statement, Clackamas County Sheriff Craig Roberts wrote:
“Had Governor Brown discussed her plan with my office, I would have told her it’s about changing policy not adding resources. Increasing law enforcement resources in Portland will not solve the nightly violence and now, murder. The only way to make Portland safe again, is to support a policy that holds offenders accountable for their destruction and violence.”
He went on to say that for this to happen, the district attorney needs to prosecute arrested protesters. Roberts on Monday criticized the Multnomah County District Attorney’s Office for not prosecuting people who have been “arrested night after night” and are “endangering the lives of law enforcement.”
Washington County Sheriff Pat Garrett released a similar statement, saying:
“As Washington County Sheriff, I commit to support PPB through indirect ways, like analyzing risks associated with social media, air support, assisting with a specific criminal investigation, etc. At this time, I do not plan to send deputies to work directly in Portland. PPB is a terrific partner and I am very sympathetic to what they are enduring. However, the lack of political support for public safety, the uncertain legal landscape, the current volatility combined with intense scrutiny on use of force presents an unacceptable risk if deputies were deployed directly.”
A joint statement was also released by the Oregon Association Chiefs of Police and the Oregon State Sheriff’s Association, saying they could not recommend sending officers from outside agencies into Portland. The groups cited a lack of resources, as well as a “lack of accountability for those arrested committing criminal acts” as their reasoning. The Oregon Association of Chiefs of Police and the Oregon State Sheriff’s Association released a joint statement, saying that members of several police agencies were asked to assist with policing the Portland protests, but that they would not be sending staff.
Both Washington and Clackamas counties sheriffs previously pulled out of a mutual aid pact with Portland police, citing similar concerns. The decision came after a million-dollar judgment against Washington County and Hillsboro awarded after their officers wounded a man while helping Portland police with a search warrant.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

wheatietoo

Hannity’s show from Monday night.
There is a segment at the end with Richard Grenell and Matt Gaetz that is good.
It starts at the 37:40 mark, where Hannity does his intro to that segment.
.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKhu_OOW8zU&w=702&h=362%5D
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I tried to find that segment in a video by itself, but couldn’t find one…so this is the full show.
If this video gets deleted, sorry, but it happens sometimes when it’s not Fox who uploaded it.
Or sometimes I think Googtube deletes them because of some content that they don’t want people to see.

Valerie Curren

This looks important, so sharing FYI (I haven’t “fully” dug in here)…

& a few potentially relevant replies…

https://twitter.com/bmiles84/status/1300649545563623425
https://twitter.com/shawnt9999/status/1300648523726118912
https://twitter.com/LorieLHN/status/1300656624344788992
If that last reply is legit, is all of the previous stuff even necessary? I haven’t waded into the weeds so have no opinion on it. Also, being Q Agnostic I’m purely sharing it w/ a Q-interest community, not trying to sway anything…

BB

You ask if the last reply is legit then is all of the previous stuff even necessary? NO it is not. Why take everyone’s time when you haven’t taken the time to research it? Q Agnostic? Not trying to sway anything? REALLY????

Valerie Curren

Nope, not trying to sway things Here at the Q-Tree, perhaps at twitter–like Stop Censoring People! I recognize some of my limits in understanding certain complex issues & am getting pretty frustrated with the level of censorship going on across many social media platforms, especially for people that mention Q…or those that try to debunk Leftist Lies…
It’s purely info that some May find helpful, & others, like yourself, not so much. I deliberately bunched it into that one comment to keep it relatively contained, but didn’t know how to prevent the opening tweet from showing before the following ones or would have abbreviated that too…
I pass along Plenty of Q stuff without passing judgement. I don’t take it as gospel but recognize there are many sophisticated & seemingly prescient communications within stuff said by &/or about “Q”…I am Not anti-Q, if that helps 🙂
Best Regards!

wheatietoo

Wolf…here’s that video of the shooter Reinoehl talking to some MAGA people:

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I don’t see anything that looks like ‘training’ in this video.
But it looks like Reinoehl was trying to make nice with these younglings…to infiltrate.
It would serve their purposes to get someone hanging out with MAGA people, to do a false flag type of thing.

cthulhu

A couple of weird vignettes….
1. We live in Santa Clara, the heart of Silicon Valley. We are currently surrounded by wildfires up in the hills. We’ve had some good times in recent days, but if the wind shifts we get caught in a smoke plume and things get ugly. It’s currently 75 inside and 65 outside, and w