Dear KAG: 20210812 Daily Open Thread

I’d change the feature image on the Thursday thread(s), but I can’t find anything close to that cool.

https://twitter.com/maybe60794885/status/1425557511206313986
https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1425544234363494406

Now that that’s over, it’s tweet and meme clearance night. Seriously, between COVID mania, and the Election Symposium that’s getting far less attention than it deserves, what’s going on is just dismal.

https://twitter.com/YvonneH78764350/status/1425557934042488832

Food for thought.

https://twitter.com/CrazyG_1776/status/1425063549219577856

Take heart. It’s almost Friday.

Oh, and before I forget:

Just a little pick me up:

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All opinions here are valued for the diversity they bring to the issues, and the shaping of understanding regarding topics for which many of us do not have all information.

Be careful in expressing thoughts as we would all like to think well of the rest of the group, and ill-thought out comments have a way of wrecking that for everyone.

Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:

  1. No food fights
  2. No running with scissors
  3. If you bring snacks, be sure they are made with bacon

Auntie DePat’s requests as we are all supposedly adults and not perpetual high school sophomores or the back row of the soprano section in any big chorus:

If you see something has not been posted, do us all a favor, and post it. Please, do not complain that it has not been done yet.

The scroll wheel on your mouse can be your friend. As mature adults, please use it here in the same manner you would in avoiding online porn.

Thank you so much for any and all attention to such details. It is GREATLY appreciated by more than one party here.

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JOSHUA 3:7-11, 13-17

And the Lord said to Josue: This day will I begin to exalt thee before Israel: that they may know that as I was with Moses, so I am with thee also. [8] And do thou command the priests that carry the ark of the covenant, and say to them: When you shall have entered into part of the water of the Jordan, stand in it. [9] And Josue said to the children of Israel: Come hither and hear the word of the Lord your God. [10] And again he said: By this you shall know that the Lord the living God is in the midst of you, and that he shall destroy before your sight the Chanaanite and the Hethite, the Hevite and the Pherezite, the Gergesite also and the Jebusite, and the Amorrhite.

[11] Behold the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth shall go before you into the Jordan. [12] Prepare ye twelve men of the tribes of Israel, one of every tribe. [13] And when the priests, that carry the ark of the Lord the God of the whole earth, shall set the soles of their feet in the waters of the Jordan, the waters that are beneath shall run down and go off: and those that come from above, shall stand together upon a heap. [14] So the people went out of their tents, to pass over the Jordan: and the priests that carried the ark of the covenant, went on before them. [15] And as soon as they came into the Jordan, and their feet were dipped in part of the water, (now the Jordan, it being harvest time, had filled the banks of its channel,)

[16] The waters that came down from above stood in one place, and swelling up like a mountain, were seen afar off from the city that is called Adom, to the place of Sarthan: but those that were beneath, ran down into the sea of the wilderness (which now is called the Dead Sea) until they wholly failed. [17] And the people marched over against Jericho: and the priests that carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, stood girded upon the dry ground in the midst of the Jordan, and all the people passed over through the channel that was dried up.

Prayers for the nation, the salvation of humanity, and all of us here – lurkers and members – as well as our families, are welcome.

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Is this really satire?

And for no real reason other than we need a laugh (watch to the end, even if the kid does seem to be reading from a script).

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wheatietoo

I’d change the feature image on the Thursday thread(s), but I can’t find anything close to that cool.

I agree, DePat…it’s a keeper. 👍 

Love the memes! 💖 

Especially good video from JP!
Is it satire?
I dunno…but it’s definitely mockage of all the absurd things the DonkeyComs are doing right now.

Love the little two year old!
 😆  😄 
She’s going to be a fighter.

Linda

Yes, that little girl was great!

Gudthots

I suppose that one of the results of breaking open access to our site is that those who usually spend time here are not coming by as often. So just by denying us an operational site off and on our interaction flow is disrupted.

AND…
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cthulhu

I had some short interruptions, and the green and orange orbs pooped-out on the last thread around 625 comments (they got worthless, then progressively got worse….), but otherwise it wasn’t too bad.

Linda

There was a period of 2-3 hours when I was the only one posting on the open thread so I went over to the U Tree looking for everyone. That was really weird and unusual for this site.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It is very weird. The site looks isolated to me, too. They may be dividing us into separate containers as far as real-time interaction (that’s the net effect of the disruption), and if so, then I will close the site temporarily and we’ll go to U Tree.

How do people feel about that? We would be using that old commenting system, but there would be no disruptions. We can still raid the media library here.

cthulhu

You are in the best position to read things, and we’ll roll with your call.

Gudthots

It’s not like it’s irreversible.

Give it a whirl and watch what changes.
Let this site sit in mothballs for a while.

Just my inclination.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think I’ll keep this option as a back-up and “see what happens”. Don’t want to telegraph the red lines, but it’s nice to have a backup weapon.

Linda

Just one problem, though. We know WordPress is on the other side. So what is to stop them from closing down the U Tree? Isn’t that why we moved here to start with?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Exactly. They may indeed close it. But we force them to do it.

It’s no sweat off MY ass. It’s a free site. I can lose it with ZERO care.

cthulhu

If I might make one suggestion, it’d be to run the open thread as nautical watches — if you’re replying to something in an open thread, reply in that one, but if you’re bringing in new information or a new topic, put it in the most recent one — then have open threads (cron?) at standard watch times….

The first five watches are as follows:

  • First Watch, 8pm to Midnight (20:00 to 00:00 hours)
  • Middle Watch, Midnight to 4am (00:00 to 04:00 hours)
  • Morning Watch, 4am to 8am (04:00 to 08:00 hours)
  • Forenoon Watch, 8am to Noon (08:00 to 12:00 hours)
  • Afternoon Watch, Noon to 4pm (12:00 to 16:00 hours)

The next four hours are divided into two Dog Watches—the first Dog Watch, 4pm to 6pm (16:00 to 18:00 hours) and the Second Dog Watch, 6pm to 8pm (18:00 to 20:00 hours). By means of the Dog Watches, the watches can be changed every day, so that each watch gets a turn of eight hours rest at night. Otherwise each member of the crew would be on duty the same hours every day.

The utree isn’t set up to cope with 600-comment threads.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What’s up with you and RULES? Just sayin’! 😉

cthulhu
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! Well, at least the operating system is correctly identified! 😉

TheseTruths

The utree isn’t set up to cope with 600-comment threads.

The fact that this site is getting 600+ and handling it okay seems like a positive sign.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, I think we can put up with the present turbulence. But there is a point where it becomes disruptive, and I’ve got my eye on it.

RAC

The dogs are first and last, not second.

cthulhu

I quoted from Wikipoo, I haven’t lived them myself.

The overall thought is that the utree really gets cumbersome at anywhere near 400 comments, so we should maybe have some throughout the day. They needn’t be meaty posts with content, like we are so fortunate to get from DePat, but just need to break up the flow into manageable pieces.

The naval thing is sentimentalism and hearkening back to tradition. Doing them at all the 12’s and 6’s might work, or automatically generating an overflow post whenever a previous post went over 250 comments could be an option. As I mentioned…..more like guidelines…..

Sylvia Avery

You do what you think is best. We’ll follow your lead.

cthulhu

The pack will follow.

Sylvia Avery

I Will Follow Him 😁😁😁😁😁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Now THAT is a blast from the past! 😄

Sylvia Avery

I can’t believe I dredged that up from the memory banks. I didn’t even know it was in there! 😁😁😁😁😁

CMinTN

Wife and I listen to the oldies all the time! Before our time, but grew up with it as it was my parents music.

Sylvia Avery

Oh, nice! It was before my time, but not my parent’s era so it is a largely unknown period of music for me. I don’t know how or where I picked it up, but it was kind of a fun flash! I had a friend who used to keep her car radio on an oldies station, so that might be the answer.

Cuppa Covfefe

Gosh, you guys are making me feel old…

I remember when that song came out, and I had a crush  😍  on her (also on Connie Francis, who was too old…. sigh…). Oh, Everybody’s Somebody’s Fool…..

Sylvia Avery

LOL……….that just reminded me of my old boss, who was in love with Annette Funicello. So much so he kissed the TV screen when she was on. 😁😁😁

Cuppa Covfefe

Gives a whole new meaning to “touchscreen” 🙂

Cuppa Covfefe

An ‘SC cinema-major roommate of mine called her “Annette Funny Cello” 🙂

I remember her being on the Mickey Mouse Club, along with Bobby, Doreen, Cubby and all the rest. And of course, the host, Jimmy Dodd. How sad I was when he passed away…

Sylvia Avery

Well……..😁😁😁

Cuppa Covfefe

Have you seen the “Ozzie and Harriet Show” ? That had the parents and the two boys, and they showed Ricky and his brother growing up, and his growth in music,

And his song “Garden Party” really says it all… Some say that wasn’t an accident that did him in…

Great singer. Loved that show (and the 1950s 🙂 )…..

Sylvia Avery

When I was a VERY little girl, when my dad had to work in the evenings, my mom would sit on the couch with my brother and me and we’d watch what I believe were reruns of the Ozzie and Harriet Show. I was in love with Ricky Nelson.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

I learned a lot of the oldies from watching I Love Lucy as a kid.😃

Cuppa Covfefe

You have a great memory shovel 😆

Hard to believe she was only 15 when that hit came out… And her voice has that quality that Connie Francis (and others) have where they sound like they’re just on the edge of crying (not just gals that have it; Hank Williams was said to have that quality too… maybe the overtones)…

But wow, a blast from the past. What’s up next on the hit list? 🙂

Sylvia Avery

Wow, she was only 15? Amazing! Great voice!

Valerie Curren

Interesting, none of those lyrics preclude the song also focusing on the love of/for Jesus. Thanks for sharing!

Sylvia Avery

There is a youtube version of the song from a movie I’ve never seen, Sister Act, with Whoopie Goldberg playing a nun. She is leading a choir in this song, although it is slowed down a bit. The lyrics are entirely appropriate for a hymn, interestingly. Here’s the YT:

Valerie Curren

Thanks Sylvia. Perhaps that was in my subconscious, for I did see that movie eons ago 🙂

Sylvia Avery

It was kind of a cool discovery!!!

Valerie Curren

agreed

kalbokalbs

FWIW, random observations from yesterday.

Charter had a couple Internet outages yesterday, each lasting a couple hours. Dunno how wide spread.

No idea how EBS went in our area. Was on the road. Nothing on our cells.

Sortie into Bay area yesterday and out. !-80 past years going through Sacramento area at morning rush hour normally lots of slow and stop. Never hit the brakes yesterday in the 7:45AM time – flew right through at 65-70.

More I-80 Dixon, Vacaville and Fairfield, most any day time hours slow and go, very light traffic.

Return drive late morning, via US50, very light traffic. No rarkes beyond evading motronic CA drivers thinking they are on a NASCAR track.

My take away – economy IS cratering in CA.

QTree wise, had more difficulty than usual trying to catch up on posts and the information here QTree. Noticed it APPEARED down once. Quite likely was my Charter Internet failing.

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So long as I can find ya’ll, I am good. Fundamental bottom line truth for me, it’ll be a bit bewildering without the QTree news, perspectives and the detailed analysis of folks here. The genuine “helping hand” nature of QTree is priceless and treasured.

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Aubergine

I don’t care where we go, as long as we are there.  😘 

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Seemed like I too, was by myself a lot of the time. Couldn’t like, slooow response, slow posting, duplicate post messages, not seeing any updates appear or comment #’s increase, even with refresh. The new comment system sucks, IMO, can’t find start of comments or most recent comments any longer. Requires constant refresh and load more, load more, load more.😭

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Do you think switching back to paging might help?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Have we been under attack this entire time?
If not, I say it’s Worth a switch back to see if it improves everyone’s response.
Even with this new method, the load more, is still paging. Under the old method you could select the page you wanted and STAY ON IT. The refresh would keep you on said page. This current method, after each refresh, you have to press load more 3 times just to get back to page 3. Refresh, load more, load more, load more. Argh!!!

And then of course the confusion, I don’t know WTF I am!!

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think you’re right. We need to try paging again to see if that solves problems.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

TYSM❣😘🤗

scott467

“and if so, then I will close the site temporarily and we’ll go to U Tree.How do people feel about that? We would be using that old commenting system, but there would be no disruptions.”

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Is there a good reason to not just stay flexible, and post comments on whatever is working?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. That’s where I am now. Things have not been degraded badly enough here to cross my red line.

RAC

It could be that a lot of readers were watching the LindellTV when the tree was down.

RAC

What I personally noticed that when posts are coming in fast like those about Mikes show, having the long pages made it a bit difficult getting to see them fast.

Emeraldstar

When the site went down, I posted a quick u-tree, and then focused on the Symposium.

I think a bunch of us did that!

Not so weird …

RAC

🙂 that is so stolen

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

THIS!!!
ATTENTION FLOW IS SEVERELY DISRUPTED!!!

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TheseTruths

I didn’t get an Emergency Alert System signal on my phone. I didn’t see it on my computer (though that’s probably not how it works). I don’t know if it was run on TV stations.

So does this mean I would not be notified in case of a real emergency, as suggested in the tweet in the opening post?

wheatietoo

I didn’t get an alert either.

When they did a test a couple of years ago, under PDJT…it worked fine.

Can’t help but be suspicious of this.
Will they use this lack luster ‘alert’ as an excuse to do something?
 😕  😒 

Linda

I think they’re past needing excuses, Wheatie. They just do what they want.

Emeraldstar

How true, Linda!

Best post of the day so far, IMO.

Right to the heart of their evil thinking …

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Remember the motto of the Satanist is “do what thou willst”…

Hmmm. Not that far away from “if it feels good, do it”…

Wonder where that (and the 68er/hippie/radical movement) came from… yep, the Pit of Hell…

Emeraldstar

My recollection is:

“Do what thou wilt.” (Perhaps a “modern” variation of the verb.)

And the follow-up is just as evil:

(paraphrase) “Let that be the whole of the law.”

No morals, no ethics, no NOTHING for guidance / direction.

The hipsters just “re-branded” it …

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Typo. Quote is from Aleister Crowley, but it’s common for Satanists. Lots of them in Silly Cone Valley (I guess that’s no surprise).

cthulhu

At one point, two different sections of local highways had “Adopt-a-Highway” sponsors of “South Bay Circles” and “Bay Area Pagan Assemblies”.

Adopt-a-Highway was a deal where you and a bunch of your friends would show up every six months and clear trash from the shoulder of a highway for a stretch.

cthulhu

I didn’t notice any EAS on my phone either…..but it’s not where I’d notice if it had received any.

Now I’m curious, so I’m going to go look……

….I’m back. No record.

para59r

Mine is off and will stay off, however I remember when Trump did his, it came on days later when I powered up the phone. Meanwhile no phone message either, but the phone rang, but then I never answer that. Maybe I’ll get the alert snail mail. I’ll be checking that some time this week or the next I’m not going to check my email. I never check my email.

cthulhu

We got a phone call from the CA Department of Education. When I checked the voicemail, it was the State Superintendent of Schools inviting us to a phone-in “town hall” regarding COVID vaccination starring some sports figure.

Talk about tone deaf…..

Linda

It seems like last year when we were talking about this that someone mentioned you had to opt into the alerts to get them on your phone.

TheseTruths

You might be right about that. I wonder why *they* didn’t try to get as many people as possible to opt in.

wheatietoo

Hmm…I don’t remember having to do anything before.

The Emergency Alert just happened then, without doing anything.

Maybe this was a test to see how many people ‘opted in’ for it?

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

IPhone IOS default is alerts on. You have to go in and manually turn them off.

Sadie Slays

Additionally, I didn’t see anything in the media about the Emergency Alert. The only reason I knew there was an alleged test was because of Q memes. I did NOT receive one nor did I see it reported in the local news.

Grandmaintexas

Same. None of the people I asked in my area got it, either.

Deplorable Patriot

According to WhipLash on Telegram, only 12% of phones got the alert. Big tech is suppressing the system and just added another crime to their rap sheet(s).

Emeraldstar

A significant crime – enough to have their corporate charters pulled and their telecom business licenses revoked.

And perhaps forced into bankruptcy, from significant fines, levied per phone not messaged. That’s many billions right there, at $20 / phone!

Deplorable Patriot

But, what is fascinating is that the plug hasn’t been pulled on the entire system, just platforms and specific functions.

I’m wondering why.

Cuppa Covfefe

Segregation of end users… Vaxxed versus unvaxxed, or perhaps high social scores versus the “great unwashed”…

The great unvaxxed; next they’ll try to make it “unvaxxedfrei”…

I have to say, the pale horse is not supposed to be first…
Maybe a test run 🙁

Deplorable Patriot

At this point, who the heck knows.

Emeraldstar

To message only those under the propaganda spell of PROGRAMMING.

Especially the elderly, who still trust the TV … and many of the young, who haven’t looked anywhere else worthwhile.

Also, those who rely on VIEWING, instead of those who rely on READING.

I think it’s at least a partial answer …

Deplorable Patriot

Well, yes. For decades, the public has been trained not to think or research for themselves.

TradeBait2

Nothing on the cells or computers. Did get on the TV. That’s it.

Linda

Yes, snacks should always include bacon!  😍 

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

🤸‍♀️ 🤸‍♀️ 😍 😋 😋 😍 🤸‍♀️ 🤸‍♀️
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cthulhu

I noticed that JP had a little BRC sponsorship dealio in the corner of his vid…..but never mentioned them (unlike some of the fulsome plugs he has done for other products).

TheseTruths

CodeMonkeyZ https://t.me/s/codemonkeyz

Regarding today’s event:

We had technical difficulties getting started and had communication issues due to server attacks on our communication lines and instability of the public live streams. 

People were asking why we didn’t run tools on the data. It is because we were not remoted into a Windows server that had the image loaded; we had just mounted a forensic image of the files and were able to view the file tree and files only. Due to the setup of the forensic image, we were not able to run tools such as regedit, event viewers, or dll analyzers. We could not run the executable files inside the forensic image.

We did not have a windows server setup with the image loaded due to obtaining the publicly-available data at the last minute. There simply was not enough time to setup a server because the show was already scheduled and we wanted to do it live.

We came across unprepared, and it is true in a sense because we had just obtained the data. It was my very first time looking at the data and I did not know what exactly would be found on the systems ahead of the event.

Interestingly, we did uncover a few critical things:

1. There appeared to be web server logs which potentially indicate that the server was accepting and executing commands remotely.

2. Election related data pre-upgrade was not present on the machine post-upgrade. This indicates that election related data was deleted or otherwise removed during the upgrade process.

3. The server had a suspicious configuration script designed to remove server security, potentially opening the machine up to a network hack.

These issues warrant additional investigation.

If I understood correctly, I think three years of past election data was gone after the upgrade.

Gudthots

All of this feels authentic.

I have no problem with the lack of performance level “showmanship” because that is not what America needs. We don’t need a better show. We need to honor our super moms and brainy science and technical people. We need to shout and cheer and let them know we are in the room and pulling for them.

God Bless Dr. Frank and all of Lindell’s team!
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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes. SHIVA was the show today. I have an article with his speech going up shortly, as well as a warning of my suspicions about the next “COVID” by the DonkeyComs.

TheseTruths

No more “COVID”! 🚫 (But I know they won’t give up.)

TheseTruths

I have no problem with the lack of performance level “showmanship” because that is not what America needs.

I completely agree. The symposium is real and is focused on what is important. When they were examining the computer data, it felt similar to investigating something or working on a problem with people I know. It was interesting to see their thought processes.

Deplorable Patriot

Unfortunately, our side is going to have to learn how to put on a better show to be able to teach the red pill information.

Tonawanda

We can be and should be more effective communicators. In that area, we are miles and miles behind the enemy. There is nothing shameful with that, our side is busy working and doing normal things. But things must change, and change fast. The people on this site make up a small % of the people on our side, in the sense of interest in subject matter, analytic ability, and life experience.

I hang out with guys who are 100% MAGA Deplorables, highly intelligent men, but auto workers who put together cars their entire life. They are (or were) Democrats. These are Salt of the Earth men. They can do more stuff with more things than the average person, by far. You name it, they can do it. One is my best friend.

They are not internet surfers or particularly political. Nor are they well read, or want to be.

They were somewhat aware that the symposium was happening. When I described Dr. Frank’s analysis, they understood and agreed immediately. It also confirmed what they “knew” to be true. They understood the deep implications of EVERY state needing auditing. Like me, that idea dispelled assumptions and pre-conceptions they had. It clarified why the audits would be resisted, and how the steal was a single attack, a vital fact, the most vital fact.

These are the people who need to be reached.

Criticizing presentation is NOT criticizing the presenter (not necessarily). IMO we need to criticize presentation. Criticizing presentation is NOT criticizing substance. Criticizing presentation helps to sharpen the presentation.

Let me give you an example. Capt Keshel gave a brilliant presentation, something everyone needs to see.

But he did an annoying thing which stepped on his message. He kept trying to “connect” with the crowd by asking questions of the audience. Who is from Montana? How many states were bellwether states? Who has been to a county clerk’s office? Etc etc etc.

This is a dreary and pointless technique which is often seen in this type of presentation. The “let’s have a show of hands” or “let’s personalize” this technique. It is tedious. Like playing a 4 minute video with poor production values to introduce a 10 minute video.

Get to the point! That is lesson #1 our side needs to learn.

Deplorable Patriot

Exactly. I’ve found that it’s a matter of threes in the outline. Three main points with three supporting points each. That is digestible.

I suppose my background being a Communications major and having worked with CEOs and executives who regularly gave presentations where they had to convey information to which the audience was not necessarily familiar, I saw the pitfalls in the way the symposium was done.

The computer guys need a Jack Ridley type interpreter. Ridley was the engineer who worked with Chuck Yeager. He spoke pilot, engineer, and redneck, so what Chuck was telling him, he could use, and then explain in Chuck’s terms.

Where to find such a person….

Tonawanda

I thought Brannon Howse would be that guy, but he has not been there other than last night.

A Jack Ridley guy would be perfect. Professor Campbell has been great in that respect, but he has been on sporadically, and he goes out of his way to keep within his space.

Gail Combs

Where to find such a person….”

Are you volunteering?
And yes I know exactly what you mean. I took a technical writing class at a tech college. Best English class I ever took.

The takeaway was put the Problem and Solution in the FIRST PARAGRAPH. All the supporting data goes in the rest of the report for the boss to read if he has the time and need. (And yeah, I had to give presentations to the bigwigs at more than one company.)

People have now been TRAINED to expect ‘sound bites’

You have just 7 seconds to grab your audience’s attention!

An article published by TIME magazine in 2015 quoted research from Microsoft implying that humans now have an attention span of just 8 seconds – which is allegedly less than that of a goldfish.

Having attempted to validate this, I can’t find any factual evidence to support the allegation (see more here) – but what I do know as fact is that if you DON’T capture your audience’s attention with the very first thing that comes out of your mouth when public speaking, there is an extremely high likelihood that they will be looking at their phones, checking their email or browsing social media before you draw your next breath!

Over the last 10 years I have delivered over 500 keynotes, presentations and briefings to audiences varying in size from small groups of 5 to packed conference rooms of over 5,000. During this time I have read countless articles and watched countless videos and live presentations in a continuing effort to improve my own performance….

Deplorable Patriot

I don’t speak computer.

Music, that’s a different story.

Gail Combs

I am ‘computer challenged’ myself but I found you do not need to know the subject matter to be able to ORGANIZE the presentation or even run a department. What you need to know is PEOPLE and how to get things done.

H/T to the best boss I ever had.

Valerie Curren

I did love that most of team Trump videos were under 2 minutes & plenty were about 30 seconds. Smart savvy types could create majorly impactful shorter versions of this material suitable for sharing widely via social media.

Gail Combs

I think that is what will happen.

Valerie Curren

Yes! & after my daughter’s wedding I’ll see about getting my twitter restored & passing as many Truth Bombs along again before I get shut down for speaking truth (again)…

Tonawanda

Our side is getting better every day, which is so encouraging. And the Trump videos were always the BEST out there, perfectly done.

Valerie Curren

Agreed. I really don’t prefer watching videos in general so Greatly Appreciate the short & to the point ones so much 😉

ForGodandCountry

What I worry about is the authenticity of the “new data” and the gal from CO they were distracted with.

If the goal was to get them to look unprepared and, as such, unprofessional…in order to support media accusations later on….then the effort was successful(?).

We cannot look at this with our eyes but must look at it with the eyes of a skeptic.

Questions I’d like answers to:

1) Why did that woman wait until just now to come forward?
2) How was the data she is purported to have had of such value as to interrupt what was previously scheduled?
3) Was the damage done to appearance worth the data gained?
4) How authentic and reliable is the data?

Grandmaintexas

This is just my view.

They had a mirrored image of the Mesa hard drive before AND after a Dominion update (I think it was in May).

It showed numerous problematic things such as deleted files and things like allowing the protection of the hard drive to be softened, aka easily accessed remotely.

They were going to unveil that when they were surprised by the raid on the Mesa election equipment.

It scared the crap outta everyone, hence the chaos.

I also think Tina Peters is not the only clerk who mirrored images of their hard drives…

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Good Summary G-Ma!

Grandmaintexas

I have to really concentrate. 🤣

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

I’m career IT so I get all this stuff. Thrilled to see you and others get it too. Means the symposium presenters are getting the message across.🤗🥰😍

Tonawanda

Yep.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

My questions have revolved around the data sources as well. Where, who, how, what, and when? They haven’t been forthcoming with those details, but I suspect they cannot because it would endanger White Hats. It may one day be in Court documents.

As for the PCAPS, as long as none of the invited outside Cyber guys (or anyone else) can prove it’s fake and collects the $5 million, that should suffice. If they cannot disprove that data, we may never ever find out who and how it was collected.

But the beauty of computers is… MACHINES LOG EVERYTHING! It’s all date/time stamped. Logs cannot be altered and/or you can easily tell if anything was altered, unexpected, or if something expected is missing. That’s just the way it works. Anything you do on a machine, there’s an audit trail (logs) somewhere.

Detractors can spin all day long about who did or didn’t take what legally, try to damage credibility, personal attacks, yada yada yada. IT DOES NOT MATTER ONE BIT!!! Don’t be concerned with the periphery, focus on the fact that No one can change the date/time stamps of the data, which is THE EVIDENCE!!

However, what they may TRY to do is finally admit the machines are capable of connecting to the net, but say you can’t prove it was us who performed those transactions. But the IP address leads to a device located in your office building? Well we don’t know who or how that happened. Doesn’t matter, Dominion’s network, still guilty. As far as the China IP’s, we will probably never know who specifically (besides the CCP) to place the blame on. And we’ll definitely need smoking guns and WB’s to prove DEM/CCP collusion.

We have God, the TRUTH and the DATA on our side.🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️🤸‍♀️

Deplorable Patriot

These guys seriously need an event planner who knows what they are doing. I’ve only ever facilitated one presentation from a server, and even that had glitches. You ALWAYS turn off internet to keep things running smoothly and do it from a Power Point file. Or a video that can be stopped.

ARGH!

The stuff we’re going to have to teach our side. Like, how to stage a symposium. It looks half asked, and my guess is that the techie guys have never worked in events or theater where we learn how to package a set.

Grandmaintexas

Um, I think their event planner is a former Trump guy who arranged campaign events.

I think the dynamic situation and Lindell’s penchant for flying by the seat of his pants needs to be accounted for. We cannot let ourselves be affected by the glitches. The enemy will do that for us.

We must support and defend, not kvetch.

Deplorable Patriot

We have to remember that the enemy’s followers are the ones that need to be red pilled. The information has to be packaged for THEIR consumption and expectations.

That’s my basic point. All the glitches will discredit the effort in their eyes.

Flying by the seat of the pants can look better than this. Trust me.

Grandmaintexas

Well, imagine the spiritual attacks our side is getting.

You know that. You post threads. You know the attacks personally, I am sure. I do.

Multiply that by a thousand times for Lindell and company.

And quite frankly, we are past the point of red pilling. God will do that through allowing the suffering that is about to happen.

The symposium, in a spiritual sense, is the EXPOSING OF TRUTH in the material world.

The TRUTH will leaven the whole lump.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m not going to go all in with that whole group just yet. Just the way things fell apart, is fishy, IMO.

Grandmaintexas

Things are afoot. Larry Johnson. Gateway Pundit. CIA…

Deplorable Patriot

Exactly.

Emeraldstar

>>”in their eyes”<<

Although what you say may be true, I distrust “their” eyes, and at this point I think it a misguided policy to cater the them FIRST.

It’s the PATRIOTS who will take courage, and do more of what they (we) can, from the morale-boost of righteousness in re the stolen election.

Nothing will wake most of these unaware people up except a HUGE wake-up call; I want OUR people to get more motivated.

Perhaps you’re putting the cart before the horse, here, owing to your extensive performance experience.

Food for thought …

(I’ve performed, also, btw!)

Grandmaintexas

Amen.

Deplorable Patriot

We all watched the public bamboozled last year by seasoned performers. Think about that.

TheseTruths

The information has to be packaged for THEIR consumption and expectations.

Maybe, but I don’t think this symposium is geared to normies. There is too much insider communication, by design. I think its purpose is to put the information out for us to absorb and act on. If anyone else gains from it, great.

Right now, the panel, including Sen. Wendy Rogers, is talking about the AZ audit and how people can get their states to conduct audits. The audience for that is us, not uninformed normies.

I have no problem with how it has been run. It has been more real than anything I’ve seen other than a Trump rally.

Just my opinion, but the concept of things having to look a certain way — maybe “professional” — is akin to the idea that the president has to be “presidential.” Sometimes, yes, but sometimes that is the opposite of what is needed. This symposium has heart, the heart of Mike Lindell and patriots, and that is a valuable commodity.

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Deplorable Patriot

And the jargon and geek speak was thick enough, it lost those of us who don’t speak it.

TheseTruths

That was part of the realism. They had just gotten new information right before it aired. CodeMonkey said he had just gotten that computer info and hadn’t had time to evaluate it, before.

I’m a little taken aback at criticism which IMO fails to understand the spirit and significance of this symposium. It is exactly the kind of thing our side needs and has been hoping for — leadership, a unifying spirit, and guidance on how to proceed. It has been enormously successful.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m not criticizing the spirit or the content or its significance, just the presentation. In speech class, the presentation was just as much a part of the grade as the content. Trust me, I earned that A.

Grandmaintexas

Not in class here.

scott467

Real life is messy, and everybody’s got a plan until they get punched in the mouth.

Grandmaintexas

Above all, it shows how REAL people are fighting back.

Let’s be honest. Every one of their lives and freedom could be in jeopardy.

We have citizens rotting in jail right now who simply showed up to a rally.

To bitch about the presentation is petty. Sorry. Have to say it.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s constructive. At least I would hope it is taken in that spirit. Even the people at the event admit that information was not presented in the most effective manner.

Jeez. If you lose your own audience because they can’t make heads or tails of what you’re saying, and it’s too long winded for people pressed for time, that’s an own goal, IMO.

I’ve had this issue for a long time with our side. And just this clip…this guy does the same thing one of my brothers does in speech and it DRIVES ME NUTS. He edits as he talks.

https://twitter.com/4_04_Not_Found/status/1425837926315794437

What he has to say is REALLY GOOD, and informative, and a warning, and the uhs could be left aside.

TheseTruths

If you lose your own audience…

They didn’t lose their own audience.

Deplorable Patriot

Sorry, I used to do this stuff. I’m seeing things that are just cringeworthy and are fixable with some coaching and an editor.

TheseTruths

But they didn’t lose their audience.

scott467

“Sorry, I used to do this stuff. I’m seeing things that are just cringeworthy and are fixable with some coaching and an editor.”

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This isn’t a high school play…

Deplorable Patriot

Neither was sitting in a room was 25 BIG NAME corporate CEOs, Presidents and University chancellors where my boss(es) had to justify their jobs at every meeting.

I probably just doxxed myself, but I’ve prepped a number executive level people for presentations and you have to be able to sell the message well.

We are not going to agree, but presentation in any endeavor of communication is half the battle.

scott467

“If you lose your own audience because they can’t make heads or tails of what you’re saying, and it’s too long winded for people pressed for time, that’s an own goal, IMO.”

_____________

But they are not losing their own audience.

If they are losing you, it’s only because you’re focusing on the wrong thing, on the style over the substance.

That may be a handicap that comes with your background, or a blind spot.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m not the only one. Tona agrees with me. He’s right on that.

And, yeah, it’s my background. I’m not doubting anyone’s passion, but if you’re going to present such important info, and it is important, some speech help would go a long way.

Tonawanda

Your pov has a lot of insight. The “down to Earth and real” quality is valuable and necessary. A friend of mine used to say (kiddingly) “if it’s not tacky, it’s probably not sincere.” We cannot lose our sincerity.

Within that context, though, there is a LOT of room for more effective communication which, after all, is the point of the symposium.

TheseTruths

My point is that there is seldom (if ever) a perfectly presented event. Besides that, one can never satisfy 100% of the people, no matter how perfect a job they do.

Of course things could have been done differently (except in those instances where we have no idea what happened behind the scenes to prevent their plans from being executed). Any one of us could pick anything apart. It’s one thing to say we wish they had tightened up the schedule or presented things in a different order or something akin to that — all within the overlying spirit of support — but to pooh-pooh the whole event as a failure in presentation is counterproductive, IMO. To say it has not communicated well is not true, in my experience.

We need to unify now more than ever. Mike Lindell has spent millions and risked a great deal more, personally and professionally, to get this and many other things done. That is exactly the spirit we need to save our country. IMO, it behooves us to focus on the message and the help he is presenting rather than nitpicking things that aren’t as important in the big picture.

This symposium has been exactly what was needed, not only for the information presented, but for the intangibles of uniting patriots and giving us hope and a way forward, plus much more. I have nothing but appreciation and praise for Mike Lindell and the patriots who have played any part in this. They are equipping us with knowledge to move forward with audits and do what we all say must be done — fix 2020, or we lose the country.

Grandmaintexas

This is exactly spot on. Thank you.

We need to let go of our comfort zones and let God do His work through imperfect vessels.

TheseTruths

Great point!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

👏 👏 👏

Authenticity is what matters, it appeals to the heart.
Grace is available for imperfection, torment demands perfection.

TheseTruths

Well said.

scott467

“We have to remember that the enemy’s followers are the ones that need to be red pilled.”

______________

I think this has been a fundamental error by our side from the beginning, and I have said so many times.

There is nothing you can say to change the mind of someone who is trying to kill you and wants you dead.

There is no ‘right’ combination of words and body language that is going to make a mugger reconsider his life choices, and turn over a new leaf.

When you are confronted with violence, the mission is not to educate, the mission is to defend and protect.

After you defeat the enemy, then you can march him through the concentration camps he pretended not to know about, and shove that red pill so far up his ass it comes out his mouth.

Not before.

You can’t do it before you defeat the enemy.

That part necessarily comes after.

Or it doesn’t happen at all.

TheseTruths

^^^^This. We have catered to what we think *they* need to see and hear, and have tiptoed so we won’t drive them away, forever. Then PDJT came along and just told it like it was, insults and all, and we love him for it. His election and reelection numbers bear that out. Polished presentations are useful, but they won’t red-pill anyone who isn’t already 95% there.

And of course this:

There is nothing you can say to change the mind of someone who is trying to kill you and wants you dead.

Gail Combs

There is nothing you can say to change the mind of someone who is trying to kill you and wants you dead, OR has been PAID to ignore you.

Tonawanda

AND logic. Support, defend, and kvetch. Our side needs to vastly sharpen up its presentation skills. We need to criticize presentations when called for.

Our criticisms will get back.

I have seen our public people change their lame techniques and become more effective, and IMO that is because the criticisms got back to them and they wisely listened, understanding the criticism was not personal, it was valid audience feedback intended to make them more effective in broadcasting our message.

Deplorable Patriot

Thank you.

scott467

“The stuff we’re going to have to teach our side.”

____________

Like what?

To whom?

By whom?

For what purpose?

It’s the Battle of Midway. The pilots are in their seats. The engines are running. We’re going with what we’ve got.

Some of the pilots’ uniforms aren’t pressed to military dress code standards, but they’re good enough for fighting in. 👍

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“Like, how to stage a symposium. It looks half asked, and my guess is that the techie guys have never worked in events or theater where we learn how to package a set.”

__________

The war would be over for 20+ years before anybody learned that stuff.

And this isn’t theater, or a play.

If the people, the target audience, don’t get the ‘substance’, then all the ‘style’ in the world won’t make any difference.

TheseTruths

Some of the pilots’ uniforms aren’t pressed to military dress code standards, but they’re good enough for fighting in. 👍

Truth.

If the people, the target audience, don’t get the ‘substance’, then all the ‘style’ in the world won’t make any difference.

Yes. And if they are put off and walk away because of the “style,” then they weren’t with us in the first place.

cthulhu

I thought the meme where it said….

“SOMETIMES, you have to give up on Afghanistan — not because you don’t care, but because they don’t.”

….was very timely. All the Afghans crying, “we’re being slaughtered by the Taliban” when we spent so much blood and treasure to help them stand up for themselves is just making me look through my collection of tiny violins. They’re abandoning US arms in the field to be Taliban trophies instead of hiding them up in the hills for when the Taliban need to be ousted.

cthulhu

Prince was gone way too soon….Damned shame.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He was (TBH) rather creepy toward the end. More time and he could have gotten himself together, IMO.

cthulhu

Or gone further into the deep.

But now we can never know.

Lucky enough to see him live once in San Jose. Pint-sized powerhouse.

cthulhu

He wouldn’t have had to talk about the most important person on the stage, or insist the guys get shirts, like Paul Anka.

Emeraldstar

IIRC, he was on painkillers almost continuously, with hip problems from so many physically grueling performances over the years.

I’ve never come across another musician who played so many instruments as a virtuoso. Guitar, bass, keys, and drums.

IIRC, on his breakout hit “I Wanna Be Your Lover”, he performed ALL the instruments for the studio-take – the one released to the radio stations and impressed on vinyl.

His live music was also first-rate: all his bands were SHOW-bands, dedicated to LIVE PERFORMANCE and LIVE entertainment.

He changed his professional name to that “symbol” to escape the yoke of the corrupt music industry.

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, and whatever happened to his vault of unused music?

cthulhu

Still there; still being squabbled-over by his heirs….

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s up! Go watch Dr. Shiva if you missed his awesome speech. It was supposed to be 15 minutes, but it was RIVETING, and he went for 30 and just made Mike Lindell’s day!

https://www.theqtree.com/2021/08/12/mike-lindell-and-dr-shiva-our-geiger-counter-for-true-patriots/

K1tt7-fzn

W, did you see this? I posted on UTree (on thread from Aug 04)
Covid and the Vax are meant to kill long term, not short term
Saw this one (https://gab.com/vaccineregrets)
https://gab.com/vaccineregrets/posts/106684484344265612

It comes from:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/332125809/

Covid and the Vax are meant to kill long term, not short term
Here are some actual FACTS about the vaccine and COVID-19 with sources. Save the post, save your loved ones.

COVID-19 is a virus that contains two spike proteins, S1 and S2. The virus itself does some harm, which is different than than the damage the spike proteins do.

So, lets talk about the virus first. The virus functions similar to malaria mechanical function inside the blood. It rips the hemes off of your hemoglobin, making your blood not be able to transport oxygen to your organs. This is why COVID causes organ failure, and low oxygen levels. This is also why Hydroxychloroquine works against it, it prevents your hemes from being torn off your hemoglobin. When your hemoglobin is ripped apart, you end up with free floating hemes that are toxic as well as radical Iron particles in your blood that your liver must remove, and when your liver gets overloaded, it is processed in the lungs, resulting in lungs becoming inflamed and filled with fluid. This is also why ventilators don’t work, people are breathing fine, they are low on oxygen because they are low on hemoglobin, and no amount of mechanical breathing can increase the amount of oxygen the blood can absorb without hemoglobin. https://chemrxiv.org/engage/chemrxiv/article-details/60c74fa50f50db305139743d

K1tt7-fzn

..cont…
Now, on to the spike proteins. When you get infected with COVID, the spike proteins go around infecting certain cells and injecting viral RNA (set of temporary instructions) and duplicating the virus. It takes about 1 week for your body to recognize the virus is bad and evoke a immune response. When your body does this, it sends a bunch of monocytes to kill the infected cells. The spike proteins are eaten by the Classical Monocytes and SHOULD be destroyed inside of them, and then the monocyte will undergo apoptosis (die). This is working for the S2 protein, but not the S1. The S1 protein is being eaten by Classical Monocytes, but it is making the Monocytes change into Intermediate, and Non-Classical monocytes, and the S1 protein is NOT BEING DESTROYED in them, so they are refusing to undergo apoptosis. A monocyte should only live for 1 day to 1 week, but the Non-Classical Monocytes with the S1 protein in them are not dying for up to 15 months or more. Dr. Bruce Patterson is leading the research on this.

So, even after your body has killed off COVID-19 inside of you, you have a bunch of monocytes presenting the S1 protein. These monocytes with the S1 protein can pass through the blood-brain barrier, and go anywhere in your body. They are causing vasodilation (increased size of blood vessels) throughout peoples body, inflammation of blood vessels, and nano clotting, especially in the capillaries. These nano clots and inflammation can cause heart attacks, fatigue, and all sorts of other problems. This is what is called Long Haul COVID.

K1tt7-fzn

…cont 2
So, remember, what the virus does, and what the spike proteins do are 2 different things. But, your body only responds by creating antibodies that will recognize and destroy the spike proteins (which neutralizes COVID’s ability to replicate within the body, thus killing COVID). But the spike protein symptoms (vasodilation, inflammation, and nanoclotting) are not what the virus does (destroying hemoglobin).

NOW, to the vaccine. The vaccine injects either an adenovirus, or graphene oxide (toxic to humans in high doses, but processed by an enzyme from the lungs in 2-3 weeks usually) into your body. https://phys.org/news/2018-08-natural-human-enzyme-biodegrade-graphene.html

K1tt7-fzn

…cont 3
The vaccine either had spike proteins in it (Pfizer and Moderna) or causes your cells to begin producing spike proteins via mRNA (Pfizer, Moderna, J&J, Astrazeneca, all of them but Novavax). This causes your body to have an immediate immune response and begin producing antibodies against the spike proteins. This does make your body effectively immune to COVID if it worked properly. But it doesn’t for 1 reason. The S1 spike proteins being eaten by your Classical Monocytes are being turned into Non-Classical monocytes (which should die in 1 week or less normally) that are not undergoing apoptosis, and therefore never dying. These S1 presenting monocytes are going throughout the body and causing serious damage, and hurting your immune system. https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.06.25.449905v1.full

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K1tt7-fzn

…cont 4
IF YOU COULD FORCE YOUR NON-CLASSICAL MONOCYTES TO UNDERGO APOPTOSIS, the vaccine would work properly. Bruce Patterson suggests using several drugs in his protocol to achieve the goals. Ivermectin kills the virus, Statins prevent the S1 protein presenting Monocytes from attaching to your cells, and several drugs (including nicotine) can induce monocyte apoptosis. When the S1 presenting Non-Classical monocytes undergo apoptosis, the S1 protein is destroyed, and the nano clotting, inflammation, etc. go away. This is also why smokers have been shown to test positive for COVID symptoms 80% less than the general population, the nicotine effectively renders them immune to the effects of the S1 protein, and thus most of COVID’s symptoms. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200430/smokers-hospitalized-less-often-for-covid-19

para59r

The reason for war against vaping then. They’ve known.

RAC

Having been a pipe and roll up smoker all my life, the crazy price of tobacco forced me onto vaping and I’ve often wondered if my constant input of nicotine had any effect on killing germs.

para59r

That would be the propylene glycol killing the germs if indeed that is what it does. I’ve long suspected the fog machines the Chinise used were this. Also notes there was never a story to explain what the fog was. Also there are foggers but all the information is now vague as to what they do and what they use.

There was a study done early last century that claimed just that.

From my notes:

Nov 2009 story referencing a 1942 study. “The researchers also found that “the propylene glycol itself was a potent germicide. One part of glycol in 2,000,000 parts of air would–within a few seconds–kill concentrations of air-suspended pneumococci, streptococci and other bacteria numbering millions to the cubic foot.”

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20091104/Propylene-glycol-in-e-cigarettes-might-keep-us-healthy-says-researchers.aspx

This next site has multiple pages of stories so picked the first one I saw with info on this which was page 2.

https://www.vapes.com/blogs/news?page=2

https://www.naturallycurly.com/curlreading/curl-products/curlchemist-the-truth-and-fiction-about-propylene-glycol

Anyway, maybe we get double benefit by not ditching the vaping like they wanted us to (though my nicotine level that I order is on the low side 6mg./0.6%Nc) Heck as I cleaned up this note I even had a rant about Greta Thornburg doing an infomercial radio spot about the dangers of vaping. Should tell us all we need to know right there.

RAC

Thanks for that info. Strangely enough I went into town to stock up today, get 10 at a time and was grumbling because they only had 12mg instead of my usual 18mg.

para59r

Maybe if went above 6mg I wouldn’t vape every minute of the day. 😎

RAC

Wow yes, got the original article up from Time.
Fire up the Fog Machines

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK – good stuff. Let me explain why I was somewhat leery of this whole thing, but then figured out which parts are OK.

The stuff about hemoglobin was an early internet speculation and proved very quickly to be bullshit (IMO). All of the things being alleged to that theory are better explained by the vascular immunological stuff.

So when I saw all that, I rolled my eyes, and suspected that the rest was just as much a pastiche of crap theories. HOWEVER, I watched the video included about RANTES, and listened to Bruce Patterson. That changed my mind about MOST of what he’s saying.

OK – now – he has a couple of “establishment big pharma-endorsed virological and immunological misconceptions” about prior immunity that are unrelated to his interests – not a problem but they made me skeptical. However, “in his zone” I think he’s solid. So I listened to the whole thing, and then found his OTHER video which is where he backs up the assertions in what you included.

SO – bottom line – very useful stuff. I’ll have more to say later. Gotta break off now, but thanks. I will be able to integrate most of this stuff into my thinking soon and quickly, because he’s basically fleshing out details on the spike protein.

K1tt7-fzn

…cont 5
So, now, does the vaccine work, and why is COVID and its variants killing people still? Simply put, as your body is introduced to more and more COVID virus (or vaccines) your body begins building a larger and larger reservoir of very harmful S1 presenting Non-Classical Monocytes, that will eventually kill you. So, if you had COVID, you have a reservoir already. If you get the vax, now you have even more. If you get a second vax, or encounter people with COVID, you get even more and more, until you die, unless you do something to induce apoptosis in your Non-Classical Monocytes.

So yes, the vaccine is not useless, it does immunize people against COVID, but it destroys their immune system by creating a reservoir of S1 protein presenting Non-Classical Monocytes that reduce the body’s ability to produce antibodies to fight off future COVID infection. If you induce apoptosis in your monocytes, then the vaccine works, and is not overly dangerous. As it is right now, the vaccine is immunizing people against COVID, but then putting their body in a state that it can’t fight off COVID, as well as many other pathogens. In addition, the vaccine can kill you, either immediately (via blood clotting), or long term via your reservoir of S1 presenting Monocytes. But COVID can do the latter if you are exposed to enough viral load, even over months or years.

TL;DR Buy some Ivermectin and Nicotine Lozenges and you can survive COVID-19 without vaxx or any side effects.

cthulhu

Thank you for bringing those to us, K1tt7-fzn.

Concerned Virginian

Putting a few things on the table:
One — since it appears that the “vaccines” have ONLY a true efficacy rate of 42%, it would then appear that one has a 58% CHANCE OF GETTING COVID as a “breakthrough infection” from the “vaccines.” And that each succeeding “booster shot” will likely DEGRADE that 42% true efficacy rate FURTHER.
Remember that on July 28, 2021, Mikael Dolsten, the Chief Scientific Officer of Pfizer-BioNTech, stated AT THE EARNINGS CALL MEETING (transcript was leaked by The Motley Fool website) that the Pfizer-BioNTech “booster shot” aka their “third dose” will contain AS MUCH AS 100 TIMES the spike protein as what is contained in their “2-shot vaccine” dosages?
How much MORE damage will 100 TIMES the amount of spike protein do to the ALREADY-compromised immune systems of the “vaccinated”?
And what about the FDA “approving” the use of the “booster shot” on people who have PRIOR immune compromised status (people with RA / with MS / with HIV / with Cystic Fibrosis, and other conditions?
Two — if it is indeed the situation that COVID, in some form or variant, is going to be around for an indefinite amount of time, perhaps people need to think about taking HCQ / Ivermectin / Zinc (and possibly nicotine gum or lozenges) for an indefinite amount of time.
Three — And what about the loved ones and/or close friends who are “fully vaccinated”, who plan on getting the “booster shot”, and who reject anything else because they “follow the science”? If it is indeed the case that the “vaccines” and the “booster shots” will continue to degrade their immune systems; and if it is indeed the case, per Dr. Luc Montaigne, that “vaccinated” people will die within a few years due to their immune systems being destroyed by the “vaccines”, how do the “unvaccinated” come to terms with this?

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para59r

Tags on. Concerning the way people take Ivermectin & Zinc.

Currently you take it as a prophylactic dosing often or you save it for therapy and only use it for when you have symptoms of CV.

A third way would then might be as a maintenance dose. If you do the prophylactic thing you would not concern yourself with it, it’s happening.

If you do the therapy thing you might consider a maintenance dose, by doing an occasional dose once every few months or so (I believe a dose would be considered some one day and wait a few days and take the some more).

Anyway just a thought given my preference not to have a lot extra stuff in the body, that way I have room to ramp up when concerned rather than already being at the highest tolerable doses.

Gail Combs

I prefer to go with vitamins & minerals and herbals daily that I have already suggested. Then if you get the throat tickle ramp up the Zinc & C (separate by at least 1/2 hr) and the green tea or elderberry or blueberries….

Quercetin is a fabulous bioflavonoid antioxidant found in many healthy foods including apples, onions, red wine, cocoa, dark cherries & berries, grapes, leafy greens & broccoli, beans, green teas, elderberries, sage, gingko biloba, and even St. John’s Wort.”

I would save the ivermectin for when I did not recover quickly or I felt the virus head for my lungs.

Aubergine

I agree entirely with this course of action.

Save the “big guns” for when you are SICK. Use the vitamins and supplements to maintain your immune system so you rarely GET sick.

cthulhu

I plan on going with the ivermectin as soon as I am actually sick…..as in 2 degrees of fever. Not going to wait for it to head for anywhere or grind on me for any length of time.

Aubergine

Agreed!

singingsoul1

Thank you for your post. 🙂
I saw a natural healer type Dr who suggested putting a table spoon of coco sugarless in green tea, He added honey but I would not for myself.
I need to try this after taking zinc.

scott467

“So, now, does the vaccine work, and why is COVID and its variants killing people still? Simply put, as your body is introduced to more and more COVID virus (or vaccines) your body begins building a larger and larger reservoir of very harmful S1 presenting Non-Classical Monocytes, that will eventually kill you.”

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So if you have taken the Clot-shot, it sounds like the life saving treatment is “Smoke up, Johnny!”

And if you didn’t smoke before… well, you do now.

Gudthots

You can buy nicotine gum and skip the burning of your lung tissues.
I’m just concerned that I’d like it a little too much.
That stuff is addictive!

Sadie Slays

Here’s the screenshot if anyone cares. I strongly believe they’ve been hiding the benefits of tobacco for decades. Did you know that tobacco increases white blood cells, increases testosterone, is a natural MAOI, and is an effective natural treatment for schizophrenia? And that was before the “might kill COVID spike protein” rumors. No wonder Big Pharma hates it.
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Previous discussion about nicotine and COVID. I linked to a bunch of papers and articles about COVID and nicotine here:

https://www.theqtree.com/2021/08/02/pfizerleak/#comment-777221

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Deplorable Patriot

And some of us are still allergic to tobacco.

What’s deadly is probably all the rest of the stuff they put in tobacco products.

Gudthots

Biggest warning about tobacco is the amount of pathogenic microbes that are found in cigarettes. I don’t think it is just because the leaves are dried in almost a fermentation type process. I think something else is going on.

So, you burn the lung tissues and then introduce microbes via the inhalation of the smoke. Not super good for germ fighting.

Aubergine

I grew my first few tobacco plants this year. I am not a smoker, but I may try a bit medicinally.

cthulhu

Hopefully you planted them well away from your tomatoes.

Aubergine

Why?

cthulhu

Susceptible to the same plant diseases. Can cross-infect.

Aubergine

I just went and read about that. Interesting. They are not very far apart. I haven’t had any issues so far, but I will be watching now! Thanks!

Grandmaintexas

Where did you get them??? I’m looking to get some seeds for next year.

Aubergine

I got my seeds from a Montana company called The Good Seed Company.

They are online. I love her philosophy. She wants to put herself out of business because people are saving seed and don’t need her anymore! I got to spend a while talking to her one day when she was stocking seed here in a local store.

https://goodseedco.net/

singingsoul1

My mother smoked way into her eighties never had lung problems or heart problems or high blood pressure.

wheatietoo

Dan Crenshaw stabs us in the back…again.

*spit*

BREAKING: Dan Crenshaw Tells Republicans ‘Don’t Kid Yourself’ Into Believing Trump Won, ‘Absolutely Not’ A Stolen Electioncomment image

https://nationalfile.com/breaking-dan-crenshaw-tells-republicans-dont-kid-yourself-into-believing-trump-won-absolutely-not-a-stolen-election/

…………..From the article:

Establishment Republican Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) said tonight at a GOP fundraiser in Illinois that Republicans shouldn’t “kid” themselves into believing that President Trump won the 2020 election, and there was “absolutely not” enough voter fraud for Biden to have won illegitimately.
………………More at link.

WTF, Crenshaw!? You idiot!
 😠  😡 

Sylvia Avery

Oh heck. He was already on my list. Now this. I am all out of patience with this crap. Is he on the take from the Chinese? Whatever, get the hook. His time is done. We don’t need people like him in Congress.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

He’s a DOPE and he needs to be called out for it.

Brave and Free

He’s McStain 2.0 hiding behind his service.
More than likely eyeing the governor spot in Texas.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

The WHEAT-CHAFF SORTER IS WORKING!!!

Crenshaw is a nice guy, but he’s a DOPE who has survived on VIRTUE SIGNALS BOTH WAYS.

He carries the Wounded Vet card – which I respect – but only to face value. I will NEVER let anybody overplay it against me. A TRAITOR who speaks the truth will be recognized as telling the truth, and a HERO who lies, fibs, or is just plain WRONG will be called out.

The VET CARD buys nothing but respect from me. NOTHING ELSE. It pays ZERO on REALITY CALCULATIONS.

Crenshaw is a PUTZ for virtue signaling to LEFTIST BILGE in return for FALSE RESPECT from the left. If he’s not smart enough to figure out that NOT ONLY was the election stolen, but HE has likely benefited from false elections precisely in the hopes that he would drop into the McCain slot, then REPLACE HIM with a REAL PLAYER LIKE SHIVA.

Grandmaintexas

Ask any active duty soldier from Texas what they think of Crenshaw. 😁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

INTERESTING!

Gudthots

It’s been scrubbed but Crenshaw was on WEF “rising stars” page with Tulsi Gabbard and others around 2004.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, that does it. That puts Crenshaw on the side that left ME a “wounded veteran” of the FIRST WORLD INFORMATION/BIOLOGICAL WAR.

The WEF-CHINA-DNC axis is not a good side to be on, Danny Boy.

Sadie Slays

I knew this fool was trouble as soon as they put him on SNL. They don’t allow you on TV if they believe you’re a genuine threat.

Concerned Virginian

Methinks that possibly Rep. Crenshaw sees himself taking the Oath of Office as Vice-President in January, 2025? It’s possible the RNC may be “negotiating” a potential 2024 ticket of Pence – Crenshaw.

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mollypitcher5

Boy, they’re out of touch on most conservatives right now if they think that having a veteran on the ticket is going to get them automatic votes. We’ve had to swallow the bitter pill that not all veterans are America first or even truthful. The 2 latest knives in the back were from Stewart Rhodes ( and however many of his followers) and the BR coffee guys .

PLUS..Pence???? Never

Gail Combs

Don’t forget McStain the ultimate RINO TRAITOR!

Grandmaintexas

Imagine voting for those devils. NOT.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’d vote the Demoncrat to force a civil war.

kalbokalbs

RNC/GOP has NO CLUE what will sell to Americans.

pence IS history. pence’ popularity is on par with Hoe, maybe 1%. After pence caved, ONLY Dominion could get him faux elected.

Everyday I am incresingly pissed at everything RNC/GOP.

para59r

The subject matter is bad enough, but what kind of school board runs meetings like this where they meet, while the public waits outside in order to address the school board?
That is not America.

cthulhu

A school board that wants to be replaced?

Grandmaintexas

Fix 2020 or voting matters not.

Aubergine

Grandma, you are stating my biggest fear; voting doesn’t matter anymore.

I don’t believe it’s getting fixed. I don’t see it.

We are shouting up into the choir while the sinners are partying in the bar over the county line.

I don’t know how it is possible to reach them. They’re all drunk; on “free” money, Covid-mania, petty political power, and fear-adrenaline.

I try to keep hoping, but it looks pretty grim to me right now.

Aubergine

Grandma, you are stating my biggest fear; that voting doesn’t matter anymore.

I don’t believe it’s getting fixed. I don’t see it.

We are shouting up into the choir while the sinners are partying in the bar over the county line.

I don’t know how it is possible to reach them. They’re all drunk; on “free” money, Covid-mania, petty political power, and fear-adrenaline.

I try to keep hoping, but it looks pretty grim to me right now.

Emeraldstar

A double-post – well done!

(Just having a bit of fun, I hope you smile with me!)

Voting matters more NOW than ever.

The HOPE derives – in significant part – from seeing how absolutely BATSHIT the behavior of the Enemy (and its minions) has become.

It is THEY who are deathly afraid!!!

When one misidentifies the target, all arrows miss their mark. We are OUTING the evil, and once it’s identified for what it is, it won’t take all that long to defeat it.

Take a walk, perhaps – clear your mind, revel in the glory of nature, and get re-balanced. The stress of fear is often worse than the source of fear itself …

Aubergine

Haha! I haven’t done that in a long time! It just didn’t seem to post at all.

I am working hard to re-balance. Dealing with a couple of people in my world right now who are losing their shit. Feels contagious sometimes.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Armour Up Dear Aubergine.🙏🙏🤗🤗💖💖

Aubergine

: )

Thanks!

Gudthots

Put on your oxygen mask first, take care of the others later.
Blessings and peace be yours.

Grandmaintexas

I could not respond to any comment for a long while. Had to go away for awhile. I also think my computer got hacked. Brave opens to Google.. lots of windows opening and closing, etc. Husband is gonna look at it later.

Ugh.

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Aubergine

People are having computer problems all over the place right now! Sorry you are, too.

Gail Combs

In town had a nice talk with a Black lady. SHE SEES IT TOO!

Biggest problem that many Christians see it as “The End Times’ and are therefore not interested in fighting. 🙄 That makes me SOOOoo angry!

If you can SEE the evil then get up and FIGHT DARN IT! Don’t just moan about End Times and you can’t do anything. — I think this is the ROT the CCP preachers are spreading here in the USA BTW.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

EVERY generation of Christians in history has been convinced the end times were coming soon.

Nearly 2000 years and counting.

Grandmaintexas

So true.

Grandmaintexas

Christ was clear we would not know the day or the hour. Not even the Son, but the Father.

To refuse to fight is cowardly. Don’t get me going on the Rapture.

Gudthots

I’ve seen people really go on a rant about how the end times books by Hal Lindsay did more to remove the salt and light of believers from our nation than anything else.

WE MUST FIGHT.

Jesus instructed us.
“Occupy until I come.”

Our Father …

Aubergine

Our local school board has not had an in-person meeting in over a year. Pisses me off no end. COWARDS!

para59r

Hopefully the curricula is not contaminated with woke-isms.

Aubergine

For sure!

Please