2024·04·20 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

January 6 Tapes Reminder

After the first release, we were supposed to get more, every week.

As far as I know it hasn’t happened.

Speaker Johnson, please follow through!

A Caution

Just remember…we might replace the RINO candidates. (Or we might not. The record is mixed even though there is more MAGA than there used to be.) But that will make no difference in the long run if the party officials, basically the Rhonna McDaniels (or however that’s spelled–I suspect it’s RINO), don’t get replaced.

State party chairs, vice chairs, secretaries and so on, and the same at county levels, have huge influence on who ultimately gets nominated, and if these party wheelhorses are RINOs, they will work tirelessly to put their own pukey people on the ballot. In fact I’d not be surprised if some of our “MAGA” candidates are in fact, RINO plants, encouraged to run by the RINO party leadership when they realized that Lyn Cheney (and her ilk) were hopelessly compromised as effective candidates. The best way for them to deal with the opposition, of course, is to run it themselves.

Running good candidates is only HALF of the battle!

Booting a RINO

I’ve spent the last couple of years pounding home the message that RINO McDaniels was a symptom of a problem…a party shot through with RINO officials. In this instance it was the hundred or so members of the RNC who gleefully voted for her again, and again, and again.

Well I got to help take one of those hundred people down, as told here: https://www.theqtree.com/2024/04/07/i-aim-to-raise-a-ruckus/. What’s even better is that oxygen thief was apparently boiling mad at how poorly she did in the vote (according to a MAGA candidate for a county office I spoke to on Tuesday night). Apparently she felt entitled to her office no matter what the rubes thing…and that attitude turns people into RINOs.

Judging from the number of comments received few noticed or cared about the post, but nonetheless I noticed a pattern: Hardly anyone who regularly puts forth “devolution” or “this is all a movie” theories (or any other variant of the idea that Trump and/or his allies are really in charge) seemed to care about it. I described successful action against the enemy and they didn’t care.

I submit that that is the desired effect of such ideas as devolution…to get people on our side not to care, not to participate, not to fight, because they believe someone else will do it for them. “Nothing can stop what is coming?” Great! I don’t have to lift a finger, just be ready to microwave some popcorn!

If any of you really are thinking like this, you might as well be controlled opposition. You’re doing exactly what the other side wants you to do, sitting on your hands waiting for deliverance by deus ex machina.

SPECIAL SECTION: Message For Our “Friends” In The Middle Kingdom

I normally save this for near the end, but…basically…up your shit-kicking barbarian asses. Yes, barbarian! It took a bunch of sailors in Western Asia to invent a real alphabet instead of badly drawn cartoons to write with. So much for your “civilization.”

Yeah, the WORLD noticed you had to borrow the Latin alphabet to make Pinyin. Like with every other idea you had to steal from us “Foreign Devils” since you rammed your heads up your asses five centuries ago, you sure managed to bastardize it badly in the process.

Have you stopped eating bats yet? Are you shit-kickers still sleeping with farm animals?

Or maybe even just had the slightest inkling of treating lives as something you don’t just casually dispose of?

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

And here’s my response to barbarian “asshoes” like you:

OK, with that rant out of my system…

Biden Gives Us Too Much Credit

…we can move on to the next one.

Apparently Biden (or his puppeteer) has decided we’re to blame for all of the fail in the United States today.

Sorry to disappoint you Joe (or whoever), but you managed to do that all on your own; not only that, you wouldn’t let us NOT give you the chance because you insisted on cheating your way into power.

Yep, you-all are incompetent, and so proud of it you expect our applause for your sincerity. Fuck that!!

It wouldn’t be so bad, but you insist that everyone else have to share in your misery. Nope, can’t have anyone get out from under it. Somehow your grand vision only works if every single other person on earth is forced to go along. So much as ONE PERSON not going along is enough to make it all fail, apparently.

In engineering school we’re taught that a design that has seven to eight billion single points of failure…sucks.

Actually, we weren’t taught that. Because it would never have occurred to the professors to use such a ridiculous example.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Kamala Harris has a new nickname since she finally went west from DC to El Paso Texas: Westward Hoe.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

All prices are Kitco Ask, 3PM MT Friday (at that time the markets close for the weekend). (Note: most media quotes are for the bid…the price paid by the market makers, not the ask, which is what they will sell at. I figure the ask is more relevant to people like us who wish we could afford to buy these things. In the case of gold the difference is usually about a dollar, for the PGMs the spread is much wider.)

Last Week:

Gold $2,343.90
Silver $27.94
Platinum $984.00
Palladium $1,072.00
Rhodium $5,200.00

This week, markets closed at 3PM Mountain Time Friday for the weekend.

Gold $2,392.20
Silver $28.75
Platinum $943.00
Palladium $1,052.00
Rhodium $5,300.00

Gold has been see-sawing around a bit (it broke $2400 earlier this week but dropped again–not as hard as last week, certainly; it’s still close this time) but slowly trending upwards when all is said and done. Silver is also showing strength at this level. Platinum and palladium on the other hand are not doing that well; they’re actually down for the week (even though palladium closed up for the day on Friday). Rhodium is the only PGM that is doing at all well.

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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cthulhu

Just as a quibble, but while trying to read through your observation…..shouldn’t it be “deus ex ma-Q-na”?

Valerie Curren

Hope you have a great weekend Steve. Blessings!

Valerie Curren

That Bible discussion?

Valerie Curren
TheseTruths

Very interesting commentary about Booting a RINO!

Please keep posting about your efforts and the goings-on with the RNC. Many of us DO care and don’t believe it will all be taken care of for us. Thank you for your work.

TheseTruths

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TheseTruths

Paul Sperry:
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/04/17/impeachment_whistleblower_was_in_the_loop_of_biden-ukraine_affairs_that_trump_wanted_probed_1024937.html

The ‘whistleblower’ who sparked Donald Trump’s first impeachment was deeply involved in the political maneuverings behind Biden-family business schemes in Ukraine that Trump wanted probed, newly obtained emails from former Vice President Joe Biden’s office reveal.

In 2019, then-National Intelligence Council analyst Eric Ciaramella touched off a political firestorm when he anonymously accused Trump of linking military aid for Ukraine to a demand for an investigation into alleged Biden corruption in that country.

But four years earlier, while working as a national security analyst attached to then-Vice President Joe Biden’s office, Ciaramella was a close adviser when Biden threatened to cut off U.S. aid to Ukraine unless it fired its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, who was investigating Ukraine-based Burisma Holdings. At the time, the corruption-riddled energy giant was paying Biden’s son Hunter millions of dollars.

Those payments – along with other evidence tying Joe Biden to his family’s business dealings – received little attention in 2019 as Ciaramella accused Trump of a corrupt quid pro quo. Neither did subsequent evidence indicating that Hunter Biden’s associates had identified Shokin as a “key target.” These matters are now part of the House impeachment inquiry into President Biden.

“It now seems there was material evidence that would have been used at the impeachment trial [to exonerate Trump],” said George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley, who has testified as an expert witness in the ongoing Biden impeachment inquiry. “Trump was alleging there was a conflict of interest with the Bidens, and the evidence could have challenged Biden’s account and established his son’s interest in the Shokin firing.”

Much more at the link.

TheseTruths

An illustration of how ridiculous the invented gender issues are:

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cthulhu

That’s why they were pushing “latinx” so hard — they want to be able to say “no binarix”.

cthulhu

As with most languages that use gender, it is a fundamental part of Spanish. As an example, a speaker is expected to match the gender of all parts of speech.

We’ll take a basic example — “those pretty ______”. With hands — “manos” — a masculine noun, this would be “esos manos lindos”. With legs — “piernas” — a feminine noun, this would be esas piernas lindas”.

In order to try to adapt Spanish for gender fluidity, they propose to essentially gut the entire language and replace it with a new one…..but only if they can get people used to “latinx”.

Valerie Curren

another extension of the insanity…sigh…

cthulhu

It gets even more fun with German, where there are sixteen ways of saying “the” — and items can be masculine, feminine, or neuter.

Valerie Curren

agglutinative languages” meaning? also, as opposed to?

Valerie Curren

TY Steve. Your depth & breadth of knowledge pretty much always astounds me 🙂

Valerie Curren

Such skepticism in the Q-Tree, shocked, shocked I say!

cthulhu

[To others] The way that you get sixteen ways of saying “the” (or “a”, or “this”) in German is four genders (masculine, feminine, neuter, and formal) and four cases (nominative, accusative, genitive, and dative).

[To Steve] I don’t see how German is much more annoying if nominative feminines or accusative masculines can both end in -a.

Valerie Curren

I did not study languages that had this topic “nominative, accusative, genitive, and dative” but a friend was taking Latin & she used to use such lingo about that subject. So I’m guessing here so Please Correct me if wrong 🙂

nominative–applies to naming of people or things

accusative–accusing/aggressive speech

genitive–potentially applying to the gender/sex of the person/object

dative–related to the date, place in time

I’m assuming your ability to describe a sundial accurately suits you for enlightening my ignorant self 🙂

cthulhu

It’s more like, “The student gave the apple to the teacher.” Nominative does the action — “student”. Accusative is the thing being acted upon — “apple”. Dative is the destination — “teacher”. Even if the genders were the same, the three uses of “the” would be different.

https://storylearning.com/learn/german/german-tips/german-cases-explained

Genitive is for ownership….in an odd and extended sort of way, like a table’s leg.

Valerie Curren

TY That makes sense-ish, but I would probably have to keep referring to your example to take action on the topic. This old dog doesn’t learn new tricks very well!

cthulhu

For this old dog, it’s an old half-remembered trick. I haven’t used much German for 40 years.

Valerie Curren

I never took German but Thought it might be Slightly easier than French to learn as it Might have been a bit closer to English.

At least with French I can guess Some of Spanish, Italian, or Latin & Occasionally get close to some of it especially if I can see it, like with subtitles LOL

It’s been more than 30 years since I took French but my kids had various foreign languages about decade+ ago so that provided a bit of a “refresher”  🙃 

cthulhu

The Fiancee is currently taking Italian courses.

Spanish was part of her major in college, and I got a bunch of it in High School and growing up in California, and we’ve both been to Italy and just mumbled Spanish at them and got along fine.

You can sort of “wing-it” between the romance languages.

Valerie Curren

That’s fun. One of my HS friends was an exchange student from Belgium, Veronique, & we would converse in Franglish at times 🙂

pgroup2

Side note – Navajo does not have a written language. Watch the movie Windtalkers to see how this helped win WW2 in the Pacific theater.

pgroup2

Well … I effectively thanQ.

 😆 

cthulhu

The thing is, all those categories assume that you start from English. I wonder how languages would rate “in reverse”.

Further, it would be interesting to know how each of the languages related to each other, and whether such rankings would be reciprocal. Is it easier for a Gaelic-speaker to learn Spanish than it is for a Spanish-speaker to learn Gaelic?

Is there a link available for these ratings?

cthulhu

I was kind of suspecting that English might be level 4 or better for practically everyone.

The link discusses getting to “Speaking – 3; Reading – 3” level proficiency, and English is peculiar in that getting to S1/R1 might be fairly easy (with the stripped-down grammar), but doing subsequent steps are likely quite difficult.

cthulhu

The guy must really hate Finnish. He listed it twice on the Level 4 page.

Valerie Curren

LOL hyvaa boyka (“good boy”, spelled phonetically, for Finnish I only learned auditorily) 😉

Valerie Curren

My grandma made an excellent Finnish rye bread called “limpuah” (I don’t know how it’s spelled). My mom made her own version of limpuah, not as dark nor as dense as Grandma’s was. Both were great, especially toasted & slathered with butter. My mom’s sometimes had incorporated shaved orange peels too.

The Finnish pronunciation of sauna, SOW-Nuh, pisses off my hubby & kids who didn’t grow up with my grandparents’ sauna so as to hear that word pronounced Correctly frequently.

I know the Finnish phrases:

Good Boy
Good Girl
Merry Christmas
Happy New Year
Praise the Lord

But I bet all of the above is in some type of archaic Finnish for my grandparents were both kids of Immigrant parents, some of Grandma’s siblings were even born in Finland, & Finnish was spoken in their homes, but the language of the late 1800’s to early 1900’s. G&G went to Finland a couple of times & amused the Finns w/ their “quaint” usage of Finnish, which had clearly “evolved” as languages tend to do.

Valerie Curren

Could be fun–TY for the tip

Valerie Curren

I think that my grandpa just might have said that about you too. He was quite an interesting guy.

You might appreciate this tidbit about him I wrote to Ya’acov Apelbaum:

This post displays a mischievous spirit reminiscent of my maternal grandfather. He was a teacher in the Hamtramck Public Schools (Polish working class community landlocked by the city of Detroit, MI) & once thoroughly enjoyed a practical joke he pulled. There was a glass case displaying award winning art material at the school in which he worked. He cut a piece of one of his work benches splotched with paint from various projects from over the years, placed that randomly painted wood in the awards cabinet, & moved one of the ribbons onto his “work”. Then he would linger by the display to overhear the artistically inspired discussions. Those people who went on & on about the artistic genius & the technical creativity of his work just solidified his views on the pointlessness of high-brow, better-than-thou personages & their inflated self-importance. I’m sure he would have loved your little experiment…as do I!

Valerie Curren , April 1, 2019 at 5:20 am
https://www.yaacovapelbaum.com/2019/01/28/the-dust-bunny-emporium/#comment-17779

Valerie Curren

I thought he “Jackson Pollock” was a “genius” paint spatterer LOL

Valerie Curren

I think I told you before that my grandpa told me I had Sisu once, which I dearly treasure. I believe the occasion was when I was home on a college break having brought a couple friends with me, one from Aruba & Venezuela (she lived in both countries), & one from Jamaica. Apparently I got these hot climate women to join me in a sauna & then a jump into the lake through a hole in the ice to rinse off.

That Jamaican friend later became a US citizen & my parents & I travelled to Chicago to witness her naturalization…

Valerie Curren

Fascinating. I can’t imagine that the skill level of a language “learned” in 24-30 weeks is super high, unless the person has a great language aptitude intelligence, and unless those weeks are Highly immersive, but I could be wrong. Is this training purported to be inclusive of oral & written language?

cthulhu

Remember that 26 weeks is half a year.

cthulhu

Which is much to my regret. German is a beautiful and orderly language that enforces a certain formality of thought that is quite different than English or the romance languages.

Valerie Curren

I don’t mind that formality & would do “literal” translations of French in addition to idiomatic. It helped me make sense of some of it.

RSVP=Respondez s’il vous plait=respond if it pleases you=please respond

I think some of those “exacting” tendencies, at least for me, might be representative of some type of neurodiversity or just an annoying quirk of my personality if you ask Hubby!

pgroup2

You’ve been blessed!  🙂 

cthulhu

From the link —

In English, we use word order to clarify which nouns are subjects, objects, and indirect objects. But German allows for more freedom of word placement, as long as we use the correct case.

Following are a few examples of the accusative case: 

  • Der Mann streichelt den Hund. (The man pets the dog.)
  • Er streichelt ihn. (He pets him, the dog.)
  • Den Hund streichelt der Mann. (The man pets the dog.)
  • Streichelt der Mann den Hund? (Is the man petting the dog?)
  • Streichelt den Hund der Mann? (Is the man petting the dog?)

As you can see, the meaning of the sentence is derived from the case, rather than the word order.

Valerie Curren

fascinating but rather confusing–TY

Valerie Curren

The issue of “you have to memorize” stuff seems to apply to English quite a bit, at least as far as spellings & pronunciations go. We have enough “gender confusion” without having words to memorize the “gender” of 😉

cthulhu

English is a wildly stripped-down language — we use “the” for “the birds” and “the trees” and “the table” and “the girl”. Everything is “I go”, “you go”, “they go”, “we go” — the only thing different is “he, she, or it goes”. Even so, there are complicated parts of English that you know and use everyday that you don’t recognize as weird unless you have studied other languages. The classic example is adjective order.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/grammar/british-grammar/adjectives-order

Valerie Curren

I remember French class & conjugating verbs

Je–I
Tu–you, familiar (probably similar to Thee/Thou)
Vous–you, plural or not closely associated
Il (capital “I” small case “l”)–he
Elle–she
Nous–we
Ils–They, males
Elles–They, females

I think that the il/elle & ils/elles may also apply to the “gender” of the word too but those details are in the murky past for me..

cthulhu

Even with similar structures, languages can have amusing differences. As an example, Spanish and German have a distinction between familiar you (“tu” and “du”, respectively) and a more formal you (“usted” and “Sie”), and you have to conjugate your verbs accordingly.

The thing is, with Spanish, you can meet a random person on the street and be talking about “tu” in a short period of time (differs between city and country, etc.). By contrast, a couple in Germany could have gone on several dates, seen a bunch of movies, gone out for coffee a bunch of times….and the guy might spring for a fancy candlelit dinner where the gal says (formal) “are you feeling ok?” and he replies, “oh, please call me ‘du’.”

Valerie Curren

!!!

cthulhu

They may or may not have slept together by that point…..which reminds me of the difference between “schlafen mit” and “beischlafen”….

Valerie Curren

which is?

cthulhu

One is more Biblical than the other.

At the time, they were both pretty theoretical, so I’m afraid I can’t remember which is which.

cthulhu

I checked. “Schlafen mit” is in the same room; “beischlafen” you both are likely awake.

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Valerie Curren

hmmm

I was thinking “mit” was some form of “my”  🙄 

Valerie Curren

When you said Biblical, I’m thinking of “knowing someone Biblically”, perhaps because you mentioned “sleeping together” recently, which Might not be At All what you are referring to  😮 

Last edited 1 month ago by Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

Were they a part of old or middle English though?

Valerie Curren

“Other than that we’ve dropped the case endings that are a characteristic of Indo-European languages.”

So was Old English an Indo-European language?

Valerie Curren

Nice, “a lesser son of greater sires” to be sure!

cthulhu

It is said that most languages are handed down from ancestors to descendants as part of the rich heritage of a people.

By contrast, English lures other languages into dark alleyways, coshes them over the head, and goes riffling through their pockets for vocabulary.

Valerie Curren

By contrast, English lures other languages into dark alleyways, coshes them over the head, and goes riffling through their pockets for vocabulary.”

Quite the Brash Bunch!

cthulhu

It steals words like “cwm” from its neighbors, and words like “khaki” and “ketchup” from further afield.

Valerie Curren

So “cwm” just might be Welsh as I surmised when you dropped that perfect alphabetical sentence?

cthulhu

Possession is nine points of the law. It’s English now.

Valerie Curren

Well isn’t Wales part of the “United” Kingdom, whether they want to be or not…or wait is that Scotland, or Ireland? AND logic perhaps?

Valerie Curren

Absolutely makes sense 🙂

cthulhu

In Spanish, most fruits and furniture are female, where most animals are male (unless there is a separate word for females — e.g. “vaca” is a cow where “toro” is a bull).

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scott467

“In Spanish, most fruits and furniture are female,”

____________

What about nuts?

pat frederick

they’re democrats

Valerie Curren

Boom!

cthulhu

That’s in English.

cthulhu

Please forgive me if my immediate recollection does not extend to Spanish nuts…..

pgroup2

No wonder Frenchmen are so effete – their willies are emotional.

Valerie Curren

 😂 

Valerie Curren

Weeeel, some dicks Are chicks, & some “chicks” have dicks, fwiw 😉 😉

Valerie Curren

I thought that gender, as a construct, was Only applicable to language. Whereas Sex was applicable to biological organisms. The leftist psychosis wants to eliminate the concept of biological sex (“assigned” at birth–LOL, vs Designed at Conception) & replace it with whatever one’s Feelings might be about their sexuality/sex organs/sexual expression. It seems what they absolutely Don’t Want is clear Males & Females who are comfortable in their biological reality & functioning within God’s design parameters.

That they are coopting language & trying to force the rest of us to go along with their Literal Insanity is outrageous. Someone up for the Supreme Court can’t define what a “woman” is because men can be “women” based on their feelings & gets “approved”.  😡 

Trying to extend this psychosis to languages w/ gender (nothing to do w/ biological reality) distinctions is just another way to assault humanity & attempt to force us to conform to their delusions.

At least some of those gendered languages & cultures still have the concept of machismo built in, which I would Hope makes it less likely for speakers to even pretend to go along with “Latinx” & other similar crapola

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cthulhu

As Steve points out, languages have somewhat arbitrary distinctions that have, in many cases, been strongly linked with ‘male’ and ‘female’. It is not difficult, however, to imagine a language where nouns are divided into “earth”, “air”, “fire”, and “water”…..and where males are generally “water” and females generally “earth”, but where they say a table is an “earth” thing without saying it is feminine.

In such a situation, the whole argument of being “misgendered” starts to look as ridiculous as it actually is. Some young snot wakes up some morning and says, “I want to be air!”, and demands everyone use air language because that is the only way to be free….

Valerie Curren

Some your young snot can choose to believe whatever their delusions want, what they don’t get to do is dictate that the rest of us must go along with their delusions!

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scott467

“It is not difficult, however, to imagine a language where nouns are divided into “earth”, “air”, “fire”, and “water””

_____________

Or change ‘air’ to ‘wind’ and you have a soul, R&B, and funk group 👍

cthulhu

Young girls are neuter in German because their names are diminuitives from old ladies. Die Frau becomes das Fräulein; Die Magd becomes das mädchen.

I do note, however, that the frustration of finding all of the young neutered girls by fighting-age men may have contributed to two World Wars.

Valerie Curren

I must protest, how about “dangly vs. lumpy (theoretically) Curvy biology”  😍 

I knew someone from Africa, I think Kenya, w/ the last name Mwobobia, iirc, clearly a human surname 😉

Valerie Curren

LOL My dad had a college professor, Dr. Butt, who named his kids Iva & Harry. I bet they All loved the Boy Named Sue song 😉

Barb Meier

I propose we put Cthulhu and Steve in charge of responses to anyone demanding pronoun compliance. Drag such pronounists into a deep linguistics discussion until they beg to be set free.

Barb Meier

  :wpds_lol: 

Valerie Curren

 😂 

Valerie Curren

Bwah ha ha!

scott467

And if the reference is to a group of both men and women, then even if there are a thousand billion women and only one (very, very lucky) man, the gender is masculine for the entire group.

Go figure.

My female Spanish teacher was very insistent about that, without even a hint of feminist angst. This was back when doing things properly actually mattered 👍

I can still hear her voice… Escuchen y repitan! 😁

Valerie Curren

And if the reference is to a group of both men and women, then even if there are a thousand billion women and only one (very, very lucky) man, the gender is masculine for the entire group.”

That seems like how the Bible described things too. If I recall correctly there is a passage of either Jesus feeds the 5000 or Jesus feeds the 4000 where the number is clarified to be 4000 or 5000 men “besides women and children”…In my younger, more feminist days, that kind of stuff used to actually bug me 🙂

I know it’s not Exactly what you’re referring to, just a stream of consciousness connection LOL

Valerie Curren

Interesting–TY. I’m not much familiar w/ the RSV or the NRSV having grown up w/ the KJV & then later mostly adopting the NIV for personal usage.

Valerie Curren

Here’s what I see at Bible Gateway for Genesis 1:1 in various RSV versions:

NRSVA

In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth,

NRSVACE

In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth,

NRSVCE

In the beginning when God created the heavens and the earth,

NRSVUE

When God began to create the heavens and the earth,

RSV

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

RSVCE

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

& those versions in the order presented above:

New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised (NRSVA)New Revised Standard Version Bible: Anglicised Edition, copyright © 1989, 1995 the Division of Christian Education of the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

New Revised Standard Version, Anglicised Catholic Edition (NRSVACE)New Revised Standard Version Bible: Anglicised Catholic Edition, copyright © 1989, 1993, 1995 the Division of Christian Education of the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

New Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (NRSVCE)New Revised Standard Version Bible: Catholic Edition, copyright © 1989, 1993 the Division of Christian Education of the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition (NRSVUE)New Revised Standard Version, Updated Edition. Copyright © 2021 National Council of Churches of Christ in the United States of America. Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

Revised Standard Version (RSV)Revised Standard Version of the Bible, copyright © 1946, 1952, and 1971 the Division of Christian Education of the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

Revised Standard Version Catholic Edition (RSVCE)The Revised Standard Version of the Bible: Catholic Edition, copyright © 1965, 1966 the Division of Christian Education of the National Council of the Churches of Christ in the United States of America. Used by permission. All rights reserved.

Are Any of those the same thing as the NRSV?

https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Genesis%201:1

The above link claims to be All English versions…

Valerie Curren

Graven images perhaps? LOL

Valerie Curren

One of the verses DP shared in an opener had to do with the 3 Hebrews in the fiery furnace. She “only” uses the Douhey Rheims (spelling butchered there) version approved for Catholics, iirc. Something in her verse struck me as odd so I went to Bible Gateway to check it against versions more familiar to me. Well there was a whole passage, like half a chapter, that Only existed in some Catholic & Jewish Bibles, surprisingly, at least to me!

Valerie Curren

“Anglicised” Could mean approved for use in the Church of England, & then perhaps the Episcopalian Church…just guessing here, of course…

Valerie Curren

Very interesting. Is there a link to that info to read more deeply?

Valerie Curren

TY Steve 🙂

Valerie Curren

Appreciate the info 🙂

Valerie Curren

Weird now instead of that book image you shared I see the one minute video w/ DJT & Johnson on the cover…hmmm

cthulhu

Had a browser update lately? It sounds like your browser cache is verklempt.

Valerie Curren

I have no idea…

Valerie Curren

Hey Cthulhu, didn’t you “recently” recommend a free word processing system? I can’t recall what that was if you don’t mind refreshing the memory here 🙂

Valerie Curren

That’s good to know. This laptop Hubby got me (as thanks for helping him through trucking school & major job transitions) comes preloaded w/ Micro$shaft (TM You!) stuff but you have to pay to use it, which is bull crap to me. I despise Bill Gates of Hell for so many things.

I almost always save docs as .rtf so that they can be read by more programs than the proprietary .doc items can be, if I understand correctly…

Valerie Curren

TY Steve! If I “need” the $haft I can access it for free on the library computers 🙂

cthulhu

You won’t need it.

Valerie Curren

Not that $haft 😉 😉

Valerie Curren

TY!

Valerie Curren

I think if I’m at the library to access Ancestry I’ll need to use their programs to save stuff onto my flash drive. I think their programs are all MS…fwiw…

Valerie Curren

TY, I chose Ancestris from your first link before, but have to do a lot of work to get myself oriented on it & unfortunately my “family tree” on FamilySearch.org is not portable & the one I did on Ancestry I have to search access codes for to see if it Might be portable. I shot myself in the foot being so intent on attaching as many documents as I could to it while I still had subscription access a few years back that I didn’t pay attention to other features. There’s always some type of learning curve to overcome.

Ancestry Library Edition is the access point, for free, to Ancestry.com so that I can look for family history documents & connections from their vast collections. If I save finds to a flash drive then I can use stuff elsewhere so that’s what I’m referring to in using the library’s word processing programs.

cthulhu

Linux has a tendency to read and write anything. It comes from the essential design fundamentals of UNIX, in which everything is a file.

Valerie Curren

makes sense

Valerie Curren

TY Cthulhu. It seems there was some type of illustration about the “genealogy” of computer languages that had A Lot of stuff branching off of UNIX, iirc…

This isn’t necessarily the one I was thinking of but the color coding makes it perhaps more easily comprehensible:
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many options here:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=computer+language+family+tree&qs=SC&form=QBIR&sp=2&ghc=1&lq=0&pq=computler+language+famili&sk=SC1&sc=4-25&cvid=95BC2F7934AA4E06A8A2795878219CD8&first=1

cthulhu

Heh. The one you liked is actually pretty esoteric.

Normally, you see languages starting with ForTran, Algol, and COBOL.

Operating systems start with Multics/Unix.

There’s a nice one for distros, but that’s really another topic.

Valerie Curren

I couldn’t actually read it, as it was so small. Honestly I’d want one that even includes BASIC & if anything else was back then too like Pascal (pulling from the few languages I recall hearing about back in the day) 🙂

Valerie Curren

I never took a computer class so quickly get over my head in this arena 🙂

cthulhu

Not to worry, you can always come here and listen to everyone argue.

Valerie Curren

I read along but don’t Fully comprehend what you tech guys eat, sleep, & breath!

Valerie Curren

“you are talking about two different things” as a female I reserve the “right” to do so & to confuse any males brave enough to attempt to untangle it all LOL

cthulhu

BASIC came from ForTran and Pascal came from Algol — these are all programming languages.

cthulhu

The whole point of distros is curation. Since the world of projects isn’t all that huge, you’ll get a lot of functional overlap, so the main points of contention tend to be aesthetic.

cthulhu

One of the big differences is the distro’s attitude towards upstream packages.

With Arch, they get an updated known package from a developer and try it. If it doesn’t obviously break things, they’ll put it in their rolling update — if it does obviously break things, they’ll shove it back to the developer to fix.

With Debian, they get an updated known package from a developer and try it. If it’s a security update, they’ll try it out in their current release — if it doesn’t break things, they’ll roll it out to the release (possibly as a patch). If it’s a security update and does break things, they’ll try to fix it in a self-developed patch. If it’s a upgrade update, and it doesn’t break things, they’ll tentatively include it in their NEXT release.

Ubuntu is much like Debian, except they recompile everything using their favorite compiler flags…..and sometimes fix things along the way. That’s why a package that is 5.3.18-ubuntu2.2 might be more akin to the Debian package 5.8.12 than it is to Debian 5.3.18.

Fedora is supposed to be the free version of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (which is not free), and CentOS used to be the free clone of RHEL. Since RH took over CentOS and murdered it, the development status has become decidedly more opaque.

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Valerie Curren

I just opened the image in another tab to enlarge it & it’s not what I was thinking of at all…oops!

This one is more related to languages as discussed with Steve

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& here’s a basic computer one:

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Valerie Curren

It looks like Finnish didn’t make that language list LOL

cthulhu

Well, the computer one is almost right, if woefully incomplete.

ForTran, Algol, COBOL, and LISP were all developed in the 1950s, using mostly DARPA funds. Pretty much every other language is in large part derived from one or more of these “progenitors”.

Valerie Curren

DARPA, so there is some type of built in back door government intrusion in Every Kind of computer language???

Oops this is more the clip I meant:

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cthulhu

Computer languages are pretty safe because of the way they’re designed.

Processors, on the other hand…..

Valerie Curren

Hope you’re right 🙂

cthulhu

No, you don’t.

If the processor is compromised, it doesn’t matter what the computer language says.

Valerie Curren

Well there I go again not knowing what I’m talking about…oops. I Want the government out of All of it but that’s probably never going to happen…I would guess…

cthulhu

Oh, by the way, if you want something like a free Photoshop, there’s https://www.gimp.org/ .

Valerie Curren

TY! So much to explore, so little time!

cthulhu

LibreOffice — https://www.libreoffice.org/

Recommended for all platforms.

I’ve been recommending it since BEFORE I changed over to Linux in 2015.

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Valerie Curren

TY, Steve mentioned it too, as thinking it was what you rec’d, but perhaps he Also Agrees with you?

cthulhu

….and when I save in M$ format, I use Orifice 1997 because I’m a curmudgeon.

Valerie Curren

That website makes me wish I had the knowledge to contribute in the ongoing development. Similarly there is a collaborative genealogy program, I have yet to fully dive into, that takes a collaborative approach to its development & improvement. Seems pretty cool to me!

Valerie Curren

So I reloaded the page again & now I see your book rec rather than that video

Valerie Curren

Sigh, it is a bit of a pain, but Wolf’s yellow for unread is still quite a treat compared to some of the sister trees that reload the page every time you hit the comment button…

Valerie Curren

I tend to “like” most comments so that I can easily scroll by stuff I’ve already read when the “thumbs up” is green. It just simplifies the process & I Actually Like Most of what’s said here too  😍 

pgroup2

You’re in for a treat with the Complete Jewish Bible.

Valerie Curren

I’ll have to look into that! TY

Valerie Curren

Here it is in parallel with the NIV for Genesis 1:1-2

Genesis 1:1-2
Complete Jewish Bible
Parashah 1: B’resheet (In the beginning) 1:1–6:8In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was unformed and void, darkness was on the face of the deep, and the Spirit of God hovered over the surface of the water.
Read full chapter

Genesis 1:1-2
New International Version
The BeginningIn the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
Read full chapter
Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
Copyright © 1998 by David H. Stern. All rights reserved.
New International Version (NIV)
Holy Bible, New International Version®, NIV® Copyright ©1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.® Used by permission. All rights reserved worldwide.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201%3A1-2&version=CJB;NIV

scott467

La-tinks 😂

scott467

😂

TheseTruths

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pat frederick

it was her campaign promise. if she wants to be vp or president some day, she must prove to her handlers that she can deliver on those promises.

Valerie Curren

How these actions can be perceived as even Remotely legal is well beyond me!  😡 

Innocent until Proven guilty is the opposite of promising to “get” Trump, however she said it back in her campaigning days. Being bound by the Constitution is just so passé for the Demoncrats…

pat frederick

my guess is that’s why they want him convicted, arrested and not President because i believe a fair DOJ would look at malicious prosecutions across the board in leftist states.

Valerie Curren

a fair DOJ would look at malicious prosecutions across the board in leftist states” it would be amazing if we ever encounter such a unicorn!

TheseTruths

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cthulhu

This could get really fun, if we can get every media appearance to say, “Alvin ‘porn star blackmail’ Bragg”.

Probably will bounce right off of him — if he had any shame, he wouldn’t have concocted this mess in the first place — but it drags the entire lawfare squad down into the mire.

scott467

Or just brand him with creepy porn lawyer.

It worked great on Avenatti.

If you search “creepy porn lawyer”, Michael Avenatti’s Wiki page is the first search result 🤣

pgroup2

And they say we’re a fringe minority group …  😂 

cthulhu
Valerie Curren

Hope he got his tortured soul right with the Lord before he met his Maker. Pointless, painful passing  😠 

pgroup2

Kinda gives “trial by fire” a more literal meaning …

Valerie Curren

Yikes!

pgroup2

SIL last night deadpan said Burning Man wasn’t in Nevada this year.

Valerie Curren

 😅 

Wicked sense of humor runs in the family 😉

pgroup2

That it does. But dear SIL is in a league of one.

Valerie Curren

What a special blessing for your family!

mollypitcher5

Ok…when I;m wrong I’ll admit it. It wasn’t a stuntman stunt.

Valerie Curren

You had a healthy skepticism & were looking for proof, which isn’t wrong, per se 🙂

mollypitcher5

I never trust anything that antifa or excuse me anarco commies do.

Valerie Curren

Nor how their actions are characterized/excused by media/politicos  😡 

Barb Meier

Given the length and depth of the ongoing pain he needlessly brought on himself, death seems merciful.

pat frederick

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pgroup2

I’ll take ‘goat banging’ for $400, Alex.

Aubergine

I’ll take ‘underage goat banging’ for $1000!

pat frederick

good golly! don’t tell me there’s a legal age for that???

Aubergine

Lol! I’ll be the goats think the legal age should be NEVER!

para59r

Possible Mike Johnson sighting on Chicago campus yesterday. 48 Second mark.

Full story on GWP
Brave Female Student Wrestles Gun from Robber in Daring Phone Theft Standoff (VIDEO) Jim Hᴏft Apr. 19, 2024 8:45 pm 580 Comments

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mollypitcher5

Here’s the video…

kalbokalbs

Mikee needs to be shitcanned.

pat frederick

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Tonawanda

Steve: just coincidentally, a few days after your RINO post, a commentor at Anonymous Conservative posted a similar personal experience of his own (I forget the state). As with you, his bottom line was that people CAN defeat the Deep State at certain electoral choke points.

In reply, I noted that you had made a similar point, and put the link to your post in my reply. I know AC does not have many views, but I wondered if anyone from AC visited your post.

I have a cynical view of what is happening generally and what can be done about it, but giving up any potential success is not part of that view.

My wife and I voted for Trump in the NY primary despite the fact that Trump was going to win the primary and will lose the election in NY regardless of what we did. But our widow’s mite of a vote, we thought, at least added to a show of support.

I try to avoid handing out black pills at this point because 1) I am just speculating like everyone else, and 2) the black pill pov helps create discouragement, a bad thing for our side.

Unfortunately, our side has labeled both the trivial and untruthful as “bombshells” for so long, very little positive stands out, or is worth looking into.

Your raise a ruckus post was factual and extremely helpful, as well as encouraging. It certainly surpassed many thousands of insulting “bombshell” stories which seem to swarm our side like annoying drones.

Valerie Curren

I wish I could upvote your comment more than once!  😍 

singingsoul1

Me too 🙂

pgroup2

You have a Bannon’s Warroom attitude. Nothing fazes that guy.

TradeBait2

👍

Valerie Curren

Random note, for weeks, or possibly months, I have been unable to post images to Gab. I could copy/paste them into the Gab box & when fully loaded c/p the “image address” here to have images show on the Q-Tree (& elsewhere) but when I’d click the green post button at Gab it would say there was nothing to post. Just yesterday I’ve been able to post images there again. I have No Idea what made the difference, so hmmm…

Barb Meier

At Facebook, I can upload a picture in a reply to a private message. Then I also have to write some text to go with it before it will let me post. Perhaps Gab is the same?

Valerie Curren

Well it didn’t use to be that way. It would allow just posting an image, or even up to 8 images. Just now it was doing the weird thing of not accepting just an image again…sigh…

Valerie Curren