2025·03·22 We Will Have Justice Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

January 6 Tapes?

Where are the tapes? Anyone, Anyone? Bueller? Johnson??

Paging Speaker Johnson…this is your conscience calling you out on broken promises.

Evading Reality

Many things the Left believes are simply not true. Right now the focus is on the size and scope of our government, and the many many billions of dollars the government has been spending on no-one-knew-what. None of that money is going to a key role of government. Which, after all, has the sole purpose of protecting rights.

And if you, Leftist Lurker, want to dismiss this as dead white cis-male logic…well, you can call it what you want, but then please just go fuck off. No one here buys that bullshit–logic is logic and facts are facts regardless of skin color–and if you gave it a moment’s rational thought, you wouldn’t either. Of course your worthless education never included being able to actually reason–or detect problems with false reasoning–so I don’t imagine you’ll actually wake up as opposed to being woke.

As Ayn Rand would sometimes point out: Yes, you are free to evade reality. What you cannot do is evade the consequences of evading reality. Or to put it concretely: You can ignore the Mack truck bearing down on you as you play in the middle of the street, you won’t be able to ignore the consequences of ignoring the Mack truck.

And Ayn Rand also pointed out that existence (i.e., the sum total of everything that exists) precedes consciousness–our consciousnesses are a part of existence, not outside of it–therefore reality cannot be a “social construct” as so many of you fucked-up-in-the-head people seem to think.

So much for Leftist douchebag lurkers. For the rest of you, the regular readers and those lurkers who understand such things, well here we go for another week of WINNING against the Deep State.

I confess that the novelty has not worn off.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Yes, we won this time around. Not only did we win, we got to KEEP that win instead of having it stolen from us.

But no one should imagine that that’s the end of electoral fraud. Much work needs to be done to ensure it doesn’t just happen again next time around. And incidentally to rescue those states currently in the grips of self-perpetuating fraud, where the people who stole the last election, make sure it’s easier to steal the next one.

This issue, though it’s not front-and-center right now, is not going away, and if we ignore it, we’ll pay the price. See the article above about the consequences of evading reality.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices.

Kitco Ask. Last week:

Gold $2,985.50
Silver $33.87
Platinum $1004.00
Palladium $988.00
Rhodium $5,700.00
FRNSI* 143.424-
Gold:Silver 88.146-

This week, markets closed as of 3PM MT.

Gold $3,024.40
Silver $33.10
Platinum $988.00
Palladium $984.00
Rhodium $6,100.00
FRNSI* 145.305+
Gold:Silver 91.372-

Gold was actually up in the 3040s Wednesday and Thursday but dropped on Friday, (which has been a common pattern for years). Platinum went nowhere. Silver is actually down. My understanding is that gold’s rise has been driven by central bank purchases. Since they don’t bother with silver, that explains why silver is basically tango uniform. The gold:silver ratio has been above 100 before, and I would be surprised if it doesn’t get there again soon.

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

The Math Behind Radiometric Dating

This is going to be a bit brutal for those who are math phobic. For the rest it will reward careful attention.

Radiometric dating involves, at the very least, measuring the quantities of parent isotopes and daughter isotopes. In some situations it gets more complicated than that, and to be honest those situations are actually the usual ones.

Introducing Uranium-Lead Dating

So let’s take an actual case as an example, a method called uranium-lead dating, because the parent isotope is uranium, and the daughter isotope is lead. Actually there are two sets of parent-daughter isotopes in this case: uranium-238 with daughter isotope lead-206, and uranium-235 to lead-207. (Check: The differences between the mass numbers must be a multiple of 4, because a change of 4 is the effect alpha decay will have. And yes it looks like I got the right numbers. I saw a video recently that swapped the lead isotope numbers; an easy mistake to make.) This makes it a favorite because you can do two datings with one sample.

For simplicity we will start by considering only the uranium-238 to lead-206 pairing. Most dating methods use an isotope that decays directly into the daughter product. U-238 does not do this. It decays into thorium-234 by alpha decay, then there are a chain of thirteen more decays (there are alternate paths, but all are thirteen steps long, not including that first alpha decay) for total of fourteen steps before it gets to lead-206.

[Check this one too. The difference in mass numbers is 238-206=32; dividing by four that is eight alpha decays. But eight alpha decays reduces the number of protons by sixteen, so if that’s all that happened uranium-238 would become osmium-206. (Uranium is element 92; 92-16=76; 76 is osmium.) In order to actually end up with lead (82), we need to, somewhere along the way, get six additional protons; we do that with negative beta decay (β) which turns a neutron into a proton. So six beta decays are needed. Eight alpha decays + six negative beta decays = 14 total decays.]

Is this huge number of decays a problem? In principle it could be, but in this case it’s not. The initial uranium-238 to thorium-234 decay is very slow, with a half life of 4,468,000,000 years. Compared to this the others are practically instantaneous, with uranium-234 to thorium-230 requiring 245,000 years and thorium-230 to radium-226 requiring 75,400 years. Radium-226 to radon-222 has a half life of 1600 years. All of the other decays happen in less than a year and some take less than a second. So, basically, once a uranium-238 atom cuts loose and spits out an alpha particle, it’s going to be a lead-206 atom in less than a couple of million years, tops; which in comparison to the half life of uranium-238 (4,468 million years) is negligible.

Half Lives and the Radioactive Decay Equation

So, let me remind you about half lives. This is the amount of time it takes for half of the atoms in the sample to decay. It’s a little tricky wrapping one’s head around this at first. Surely, if half of the atoms are gone in 4,468 million years, the other half ought to be gone in another 4,468 million years. But it doesn’t work that way.

Each atom is independent of the others, and any given U-238 atom has a totally random 50 percent chance of going “kablooey” sometime within the next 4,468 million years. It could be right now while you’re watching it, or it could be 4,467.999 million years from now. If it doesn’t happen between now and then, guess what? You are still looking at an atom that has a 50 percent chance of going “kablooey” in the next 4,468 million years. The past history doesn’t matter. If the atom is 100,000 million years old already, versus created last year, it still has the same changes of blowing up in the same period of time.

Go to multiple atoms in a sample; billions, trillions or quadrillions of them [a one-gram sample of uranium-238 has 2.53 sextillion (or 2.53 trillion billion) atoms in it]. Since each individual atom has a 50 percent chance of blowing up in the next 4,468 million years, half of them, you don’t know which ones in advance, but half of them will do so. OK, so let’s say your very distant descendant takes your one gram sample and separates out all of the lead and intermediate decay products (the other things on the chain), and he has half a gram of uranium-238. His past does not matter; he has a half-gram sample of uranium-238 and half of it will decay in the next 4,468 million years, leaving his distant descendant with a quarter of a gram of uranium. (And maybe by that time an honest Leftist will have been born.)

The following GIF is a simulation of radioactive decay, with four samples each of four and four hundred atoms. The number at the top is the number of elapsed half lives. (It runs a bit fast unfortunately, so watch closely.)

Another way to talk about it is to say that, for a given isotope, the number of decaying atoms in some time interval is proportional to the current number of atoms.

In fact since the decaying atoms reduce the size of the sample, the number of decays is the rate of change of the size of the sample. Twice as many decays? Twice as fast a reduction.

In order to truly understand radiometric dating we have to understand this, and be able to express it mathematically. And I want you to truly understand it.

Intense Math Alert! Go to the bolded paragraph below to skip this.

Expressing this semi-mathematically, using ∝ for “is proportional to”:

(Number of decays in a specified time interval) ∝ (Current size of sample)

Or:

(rate of change of the sample size) ∝ (Current size of sample)

Or a bit more formally, with N(t) being the number of atoms in the sample at time t, expressed in calculus notation:

−dN/dtN

(The negative sign is because the change is in the downward direction, yet we will want to use a positive constant when we introduce it shortly.)

Or we can make it an equation by creating a proportionality constant, λ, (Greek lower-case lambda); in this case it’s called the decay constant.

−dN/dt = λN

And rearrange just a bit:

dN/N = −λdt

Welcome to the world of differential equations. This one is easy to solve, since the only way a function can be its own derivative is if the function is et, and if you want a function to be its own derivative but multiplied by some number is for the function to be something like ekt., in which case the derivative will be ket. So taking advantage of this fact, we get:

Key Equation: N(t) = N0eλt

Where N0 is the size of the sample at some particular time, and N(t) is the size of the sample at some earlier or later time, t.

[e is the base of the natural logarithms and I talk about it (and logarithms) here: https://www.theqtree.com/2023/05/20/2023%C2%B705%C2%B720-joe-biden-didnt-win-daily-thread/ and here: https://www.theqtree.com/2023/06/17/2023%c2%b706%c2%b717-joe-biden-didnt-win-daily-thread/.]

This concerns the so-called parent nuclide. The daughter product increases, of course. What’s the formula for that? It’s convenient that the number of atoms does not change; even if fewer and fewer of them are the parent isotope. In other words, the total number of atoms, parent + daughter, is always N0 no matter how much (or how little) decay has happened. That means that to get the number of daughter atoms, you can simply subtract the number of parent atoms from the original number of parent atoms. I’m using subscripts p and d here to indicate number of parent and daughter atoms

Nd(t) = N0Np(t)

Substituting in the Key Equation for Np:

Nd(t) = N0N0eλt

But this just begs to be simplified a bit:

Nd(t) = N0(1 − eλt)

Earlier I was talking in terms of half lives, but we don’t see that here; we see this funky lambda constant instead. Can we get to a formula that uses half lives?

Yes but before we proceed I should say something about λ. We’re eventually going to want to put an actual numerical value on it, but it’s important to note that this is a number that applies to some given time interval. A second, a year, a million years. This number is actually the fraction of the sample that decays in whatever time interval you choose. So if a trillionth of the sample decays in one second, λ is one trillionth (0.000000000001), but to express that in years, you need to multiply it by 60 × 60 × 24 × 365.25, and if you want it to express it for millions of years, you have to multiply it again by another million. In this case we’re dealing with geology and our λ values will be set for million-year units.

The first step is to simply invert λ, defining a new constant τ:

τ = 1/λ

This gives you the average lifetime for an atom of the parent isotope, in whatever unit (seconds, years, millions of years, whatever) that you used for λ.

Note that this is not the same as half life. Half life is the time it takes for half of the atoms to go kablooey, but that’s not the average time it will take for one to do so. Some atoms ( one in 1024) will survive ten half lives, and they pull the average up. But it’s easy to get to the half life, t1/2 from here–multiply by the natural log of 2 (about 0.693):

t1/2 = τ ln(2) = ln(2) / λ

The reverse process:

λ = ln(2) / t1/2

And it turns out that there’s a version of the Key Equation with the half life…actually two versions that are equivalent to each other.

Cumbersome Half Life Key Equation: N(t) = N0e−ln(2)t/t1/2

This is ugly so it gets simplified as follows:

Simple Half Life Key Equation: N(t) = N0 2-(t/t1/2)

This one is intuitive in terms of half lives. Raise 1/2 to the power of the number of half lives that have elapsed to get the fraction of atoms remaining, then multiply by the original number. Or equivalently raise 2 to the negative power of the number of half lives.

So do we prefer working with λ or with t1/2? Scientific calculators come with an ex key; they never come with a 2x key–which forces us to work with that cumbersome formula above if we want to use half lives. (Honestly I’d write a program if it were a programmable calculator: store the half life in memory, and input the time, let the program do all the steps in the Cumbersome equation.) On the other hand I am having a very difficult time finding a table of isotope decay rates; half lives are easy to find.

END OF INTENSE MATH but be aware there will be a lot of applying the equations from here on out. That’s basically arithmetic, though, not differential equations.

For those of you rejoining us here, I’m going to repeat the formulas and definitions:

Decay Rate Key Equation: N(t) = N0eλt

Cumbersome Half Life Key Equation: N(t) = N0e−ln(2)t/t1/2

Simple Half Life Key Equation: N(t) = N0 2-(t/t1/2)

N(t) is the number of atoms of the parent isotope (the one that’s decaying away) at any given time t. N0 is the original number of atoms of the parent isotope.

t1/2 is the half life. λ is the decay constant, the fraction of the sample that decays in some specified time (seconds, or millions of years, as appropriate). Dividing 1 by λ gives τ, the average lifetime of an atom in the sample.

I rarely see λ used. But for uranium-238 it’s: 4.916 x 10-18 (when working in seconds) and 1.551 x 10-10 (when working in years). If you use the latter number you need to supply t in years, not seconds–which, let’s face it, is more likely what you want to do anyway. In fact, this is geology (or have you forgotten?): You probably want millions of years, in which case λ for uranium-238 is 1.551 x 10-4.

In fact, let me supply the numbers for U-235, U-238, and thorium-232, since we’re going to be mentioning them at some point below.

Isotope
U-235
U-238
Th-232

Half Life (My) t1/2
704
4468
14,050

Decay Rate λ
984.6 × 10−6
155.1 × 10−6
49.33 × 10−6

(I here took the liberty of using “engineering” numbers rather than strict scientific notation (where the power is set so only one number is left of the decimal point) so that you could compare the decay rates more readily. The engineering mode uses powers that are multiples of three so it’s easy to write out a metric prefix, e.g, 1.32 × 104 watts (scientific notation) becomes 13.2 × 103 watts (engineering notation) or 13.2 kW (very readily read off the engineering notation).)

OK, there is some more math but at least I’m not slinging differential equations any more:

Determining Age (The Simple, Ideal Case)

Since we are dating a sample rather than predicting how much will be left after some time, these formulas are backwards. Instead of telling us how much is left after a known time has elapsed, we expect to know how much is left, and want to know how much time it took to get to that point.

Rearranging the Decay Rate Key Equation we get:

t = ln(N/N0) / –λ

or, getting rid of the minus sign by taking the natural log of the reciprocal instead:

The Dating Equation: t = ln(N0/N)/λ.

(“ln” is the natural log; the logarithm to the base e.)

OK so how do we apply this?

In principle, we can analyze some rock to determine how much U-235, Pb-207, U-238, Pb-206, and for bonus, Th-232 and Pb-208 is in it. We will want to know numbers of atoms–or at least the ratio of the number of atoms, not weight, but it’s easy enough to convert. We can then use the last formula above three times, remembering that (for the U-235 case) N0 is actually the sum of the U-235+Pb-207 numbers, whereas N is just the U-235 count. So you have two (or three, if you are checking thorium as well) pairs of numbers; run the calculation with each one. You now have three answers; if they are all the same, you’re in business.

Here’s an example: A rock that happens to be 704 million years old. You don’t know this (real science doesn’t have the answers in the back of the book), but you want to, so you take a tiny sample. For now we’ll assume no pre-existing daughter nuclides, no losses of any atoms over time from the sample, and no contamination of the sample. You put that sample into a mass spectrometer, which vaporizes the sample, ionizes the atoms, and sends them past a magnet at high speed. The atoms, being charged, will follow curved paths past the magnet. Heavier atoms will be bent less by the magnet. We put a detector downstream and it notes how many atoms hit where an atom of mass 206 should strike. Also for 207, 208, 232, 235, and 238.

What does our scientist see? It so happens I picked that number for a reason; it’s the half life of U-235. So our scientist will see equal numbers of U-235 and Pb-207, say 5 million of each. It doesn’t matter, it’s the ratio between the two that matters, and in this case it’s 1:1. That will probably make him smile because he won’t even have to pull out his calculator for that one–he will already know the answer. But he decides to check that, so what about U-238 and Pb-206? He will see 11.54 atoms of Pb-206 for every hundred atoms of U-238. Say, 1 billlion atoms of U-238 and 115.4 million atoms of Pb-206 But in order to use the formula above, he needs N0/N, the ratio of the remaining parent atoms (1 billion) divided by the total number of atoms involved in this (parent + daughter), to the number of remaining atoms. So what he wants is (1 billion + 115.4 million)/1 billion = 1,115,400,000/1,000,000,000 = 1.0577. When he plugs that into the dating equation t = ln(N0/N)/λ, being careful to use the value of λ for U-238, he gets 703.98 million years. Now he’s really happy because his numbers match. If he checks Th-232/Pb-208 he’ll get (regardless of the actual amounts) 3.534 atoms of lead-208 for every hundred atoms of thorium-232. Using this, he gets N0/N of 1.0353, divides by λ for Th-232 (49.33 × 10−6), hits the ex key on his calculator…and the age comes out as 704.1 million years. Now he’s grinning ear to ear, because he took three sets of measurements, independent of each other, and got the same result every time. What could be easier? (Actually a lot of things could be easier; actually analyzing the sample in order to get those six numbers is painstaking work.)

That’s the third grade version of what is called “uranium-lead dating.”

[In the light of a joke Pat Frederick made last time, uranium-lead radiometric dating is when her father shoots you full of lead or depleted uranium because he caught you shooting his daughter full of something else. But that’s the high-school level version.]

How To Deal With Non-Ideal Cases

I said this was the third grade version. That’s because I made a bunch of assumptions for this case. I said so before, and now I am going to repeat them.

  1. No initial daughter nuclides (in other words the rock contained no lead when it was formed).
  2. Neither a) any lead nor b) any uranium (or thorium) leached out of the rock since it was formed, since that will mess up our ratios when we measure them.
  3. No contamination of the sample either from natural processes or as it is collected and analyzed.

The problem is when dealing with rocks it’s never that tidy, though it can get close. We cannot simply assume that the sample started out with no daughter isotope in it. Or make any of those other assumptions, at least not without justification.

So when uranium-lead dating is done (in the lab, not in her house), it’s usually done with the mineral zircon. The chemical formula for this is ZrSiO4. It’s a silicate of zirconium, element #40. Here is an insanely nice specimen of zircon:

But hold on here. There’s no uranium in this mineral!

There’s no uranium, if it’s pure. However these crystals form in a mass of molten rock (magma), and this is Planet Earth unfiltered and unpurified. There will, therefore, almost always be impurities in it. (This is why pure white diamonds are very valuable; they have little to no impurities in them and that is a rare situation indeed.)

Zircon crystals will form in any igneous rock as it solidifies from magma. In fact, they’re practically the first thing that will form. (This is good because it’s easier for a crystal in still-liquid medium to reject impurities than it is, if almost everything surrounding it is already solidified.) They typically end up being the size of sand grains, and so any sizeable igneous rock will have a number of them in it. Zircons are also harder than quartz, with a Mohs hardness of 7.5 vs. quartz’s 7.0. (They will scratch steel and glass.) Which means they will be hard to damage, and can erode out of an igneous rock and end up incorporated in a sedimentary rock, essentially undamaged.

As it happens, if there is any uranium (either isotope, it doesn’t matter because we’re doing chemistry at the moment) in the magma, it can be incorporated in the zircon quite readily. So can thorium. The uranium atoms end up as part of the crystal, replacing some of the zirconium. But the cool thing about it, and the reason we want zircon crystals, is that lead is rejected as the crystal forms. So the innards of the new crystal will contain some uranium, and no lead whatsoever.

Furthermore, uranium won’t leach out of the zircon crystals over time.

That’s handy! And sedimentary rocks will have the crystals too, once they erode from igneous rocks. The thing to remember about the crystals in sedimentary rock is that dating those crystals will not give you the age of the sedimentary rock, but rather the age of some igneous rock that eroded, the grains from which became part of the sedimentary rock. They will put a maximum on the age of the sedimentary rock, but no minimum (maybe it formed last Tuesday).

This is a bit of a pain, because we find fossils, including index fossils, almost entirely in sedimentary rock. It’s not insurmountable, but that’s a topic for a future post. For now let’s stick to igneous rock.

If we take care to use the innards of the zircon crystal, rather than the surface, and run our lab like a clean room, we can reduce the possibility of contamination. If there is contamination in spite of all of these, we won’t get consistent answers (as we did in our example above) and can just disregard the results from that sample.

We’ve taken care of every assumption, except for 2a: We don’t know whether or not any lead leached out of the crystal after it was formed. And that does happen. Zircon crystals don’t like lead, so they’ll push it out if they have a chance, while hanging on to the uranium and thorium that’s still left.

One thing that can cause this is if the zircon is heated to over 900 C after it is formed, like happens when the rock it is part of is transformed into a metamorphic rock. Also, ironically, the uranium’s radiation can actually damage the crystal as it decays, allowing lead to leak out at lower temperatures. (And remember, every uranium-238 atom that decays emits radiation fourteen times!)

OK so how do we deal with this?

Let’s go back to our example of the 704 million year old unicorn rock that had no issues with it. Make it a rock with some number of zircon crystals, and we’ll use the crystals.

The crystals will all have different rates of lead loss, slightly different but different enough for this to work. So let’s take a specific crystal, and let’s say it has lost fifty percent of its lead.

How does a scientist use this to date the rock?

Let’s first see what he measures.

In our previous example, the scientist saw 5 million atoms each of U-235 and Pb-207. This time, though, unbeknownst to the scientist, half of the lead leaked out before the sample was collected. So what he sees instead is 5 million atoms of U-235 and 2.5 million atoms of Pb-207. It looks like N0 is 7.5 million (not 10 million) so he does the division N0/N and comes up with 3/2 (instead of 2).

He plugs that into the Dating Equation:

t = ln(N0/N)/λ

using λ for U-235 and gets: 411.8 million years (probably rounding it to 412).

We happen to know this is wrong. He doesn’t.

Not yet, anyway.

Next, he works U-238 and Pb-206. This time he sees a billion atoms of U-238, but instead of 115.4 million atoms of Pb-206, he only sees 57.7 million. So he is dividing 1,057,700,000 by 1,000,000,000, and getting 1.0577. Plugging that into the Dating Equation with the decay constant for U-238, he gets 361.597…okay, 362 million years. Doing the same exercise with thorium (I’ll save you the gory details) yields an age of 355.1 million years, or 355 million.

These numbers are all over the freaking map. None of them are even remotely right…and this guy has been doing this sort of work for more than two weeks so he knows that this variation actually means he’s nowhere close, and he’s dealing with crystals that lost some of their lead.

What to do now?

Concordia Diagrams to the Rescue

Analyze another zircon crystal, and another. Let’s say the next one has only 40 percent loss of the lead. In that case the U-235 date is 477 million years, the U-238 date is 432 million years, and the thorium date is 425 million years.

He accumulates at least a few of these sets of data.

OK now the mathematical tool comes in. Bring out a sheet of graph paper and label the horizontal Pb-207/U-235 and the vertical Pb-206/U-238.

Before doing anything with the data collected, we have a bit of prep to do. We have to draw a line that shows the values where the two dates are in “concord” (agreement) with each other, and this will be called a “concordia diagram”

For instance, for an age of 100 million years, a perfect rock (like in my first example) will show 90.6 percent U-235 and 9.377 percent Pb-207. Dividing the two we get a ratio 0.1035. The same ideal rock would be 98.5 percent U-238 and 1.54 percent Pb-206. (We’re going to ignore the thorium for now), the ratio is 0.0156. So put a mark at 0.1035 on the horizontal and 0.0156 on the vertical. Label that mark “100.”

Do this for a bunch of different ages and you get this sort of curved line, with different points on the line labeled with different ages. It goes up to the right, but instead of being a straight line it bulges slightly upward.

Note this is a bit different from the graphs we made in Algebra 1. There, we had the independent variable along the horizontal axis, and the dependent variable on the vertical axis. This time we have two dependent variables, those two ratios, off of one independent variable (the age that would give those ratios under ideal circumstances). We are plotting the two dependent variables against each other.

(You don’t have to do all of this math every time, because the points are always the same. I would bet that it’s in tables. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was graph paper with this line pre-printed on it, though in the modern digital age that may have fallen by the wayside.)

In fact, I just used a spreadsheet to compute the values for 100, 200, 300…and so on up to 1000 million years, and plotted them. (I wasn’t able to get the spreadsheet to label the points.) In this case, 100 million years is at the lower left, and 1 billion years is at the upper right.

OK, now that you have this blank template, plot all of your measurements on it. For the first sample, there were 2.5 million atoms of Pb-207 and 5 million of U-235, so the ratio is 0.5. That’s your “x” value. And there were 57.7 million Pb-206 atoms versus 1 billion U-238 atoms, so the ratio is 0.0577. That’s your y value. Plot a point at (0.5, 0.0577)

Repeat for the other samples. These data points should lie along a straight line (if it’s not exact there are mathematical methods to find the “best fit” line). Extend it, and it will cross the curved line in two places. The upper right intersection represents the original ratios, you then can backtrack to figure out what age that point on the curved line represents. And you will get 704 million years, which is the actual age of the rock you pulled the zircon crystals from.

I can’t seem to get sample points onto the graph I just uploaded, but what I can do is show you an actual concordia diagram. This one was used to date rocks from the Klamath Mountains in Northern California. In this case as you can see the age is 461.17 +/- 31 Ma. (Spoiler: This turns out to be the middle of the Ordovician period. My example 704 million year old rock would, if real, come from the Cryogenian period.)

The upshot of this is, the concordia diagram lets you use the fact that there are two measurements to account for loss of daughter isotope, provided you can take multiple samples (with different amounts of loss) from the same rock.

What about the thorium-to-lead part? One could use Pb-208/Th-232 in a concordia diagram, instead of one of the two lead/uranium isotopes, but thorium decays more slowly so its ratios are smaller and a tiny variation in the measurement leads to a bigger variation in the date. The two uranium-lead numbers are more sensitive, so they get used instead.

There is a closely related method called Lead-Lead dating. I’ll cover that next time. Meanwhile, you’re probably wondering. What’s the oldest rock we’ve found?

Quit Holding Out On Us

The oldest “hit” found using zircons and uranium-lead dating so far is some zircon crystals taken from a rock in the Jack Hills in Western Australia, north of Perth. The crystals were found in a sedimentary rock, so the rock as a whole is younger than the zircons, which came out of an igneous rock that eroded a long time ago.

And that number came out to be: 4,404 +/- 8 million years.

Remember that this is a minimum age for the Earth. We’ll improve on it.

Here’s a picture of a Jack Hills rock:

It is believed that this rock (as a combined entity) is about 3 billion years old (that’s not a very precise number, but that’s the point; it’s hard to date sedimentary rocks), but obviously it’s made of older stuff, including those ancient zircon crystals.

I want to close by emphasizing that uranium-lead dating has been used countless times, and between that and other methods of dating I’ll be covering soon–also used countless times–we have built up a consistent notion of Earth’s age and ages for events during Earth’s “lifetime.” This isn’t a one-off that was then uncritically accepted.

Other, slightly newer zircons (4.3 billion years old) from the same area have had their oxygen atoms examined and the isotopic mix there (O-16 vs. O-17 vs. O-18, all stable) implies there was already liquid water on Earth’s surface.

And accepting these numbers isn’t a “presupposition” (as some people would claim) because the numbers are the results of a lot of evidence and scientific investigation.

If you want to dispute numbers in the millions and billions of years, you are going up against, quite literally, tons of hard evidence.

Health Friday 3.21.2025 Open Thread: More on the N1-Methylpseudouridine in the modRNA COVID-19 “Vaccines”

The above image of the chemical structure of Uridine is courtesy of SOMA Analytics and Google Images.

Health Friday is a series devoted to information regarding Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. As today’s post speaks of the disaster of COVID-19 (the COVID-19 virus itself, and the COVID-19 “vaccines”), Yours Truly dedicates it to the memory of all persons, or whatever age of locations, who have passed away from the negative effects of these lab-created bioweapons.

There are Important Wolf Moon Notifications; the Rules of our late, good Wheatie; and, certain caveats from Yours Truly, of which readers should be aware. The are linked here. NOTE: Yours Truly has checked today’s offering for any AI-generated content. To the best of my knowledge and belief, there is none. Also: If readers wish to post anything in the discussion thread for today’s post that is AI-generated, they must cite their source.

Today’s post is one of a Health Friday “mini-series” devoted to discussion of a single topic. The topic for this offering is the chemical compound N1-Methylpseudouridine in the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines.”

Yours Truly has written in broader form about this compound. Please see: https://www.theqtree.com/2024/11/08/health-friday-11-8-2024-open-thread-the-insidious-n1-methylpseudouridine-in-the-covid-19-vaccines/. Today’s offering is some further information regarding this compound and how it can affect COVID-19 “vaccinated” persons.

The purpose for putting N1-Methylpseudouridine into the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” was for this compound to replace the RNA of the natural Uridine in the “vaccinated” person’s body with a synthetic form of Pseudouridine, plus a form of methane.

Uridine (U or Urd) is an RNA synthesis component of the human body. It is present in blood plasma and in the cerebrospinal fluid. It is synthesized by the mitochondrial cells of the body. Two sources of information are: One: https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/uridine, 14 May 2010. A screenshot of part of Chapter Four of one reference book from this source is below:

The Chapter Four is found here: https://doi.org/10.1016/8978-0-12-374927-7.00004-2, “Chapter 4 – Substances Involved in Neurotransmission”, George M. Kapalka. Note the mention of food sources for Uridine in the screenshot above.

And, Two: https://nootropicsexpert.com/uridine-monophosphate/, David Tomen, 3 April 2024. A screenshot from this article is below:

Both of the above make it clear that Uridine is an important RNA synthesis component of the human body. It is also very clear that Uridine is an important element in both parts of the “gut-brain connection.”

What is Pseudouridine, and what does it do? Please see: https://pmc.ncbi.mln.nih.gov/articles/PMC8007080/, “Regulation and Function of RNA Pseudouridylation in Human Cells”, Erin K. Borchardt, et al., 23 November 2021. A screenshot from the Introduction of this paper is below:

Note that Pseudouridine interacts “with protein and other RNAs.”

Now, to the lab-created compound N1-Methylpseudouridine: and here, in Yours Truly’s opinion, is where the topic gets “very interesting.” A detailed and meticulous paper on how this compound works is here: https://doi.org/10.1093/narlgkad, “Nanopore sequencing for N1-methylpseudouridine in RNA reveals sequence-dependent discrimination of the modified nucleotide triphosphate during transcription”, Aaron M. Fleming, Cynthia J. Burrows, 16 January 2023. (Note: the monophosphate in Uridine is “transformed” into a triphosphate in N1-Methylpseudouridine.) Several screenshots from this paper are below; first, the Abstract:

Note the mention of T17. Yours Truly will return to this later.

Followed by Figure 1 from the paper:

Followed by Figure 7C, the new “base pairs” created by N1-Methylpseudouridine in RNA:

And, followed by one more item from the paper, regarding T cells, from the Results section:

Now, to T17 cells. These T helper cells are also called Th17 cells orTH17 cells. They belong to the CD4 helper lymphocyte cell subset. T17 helper cells are found in Uridine: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4137509/, “Th17 Cells in Autoimmune and Infectious Diseases”, J.F. Zambrano-Zaragoza, et al., 3 August 2024. This paper discusses multiple roles for T17 cells. These cells produce a protein called interleuken 17 (IL-17.) Below is a screenshot from the section 1. Introduction of the above paper:

Yours Truly concludes: The N1-Methylpseudouridine in the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” replaces the natural Uridine (along with the T17 helper cells present) with Pseudouridine plus a form of methane. Neither of these “replacement elements” can perform the functions of the natural T17 helper cells in Uridine. In fact, the effect of N1-Methylpseudouridine in the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” is to “kick the door open” for the onset of multiple types of inflammation, both in the body and in the brain of the “vaccinated” person. In the brain, this can, and does, include: onset of mood changes (that can signal the onset of psychosis); onset of cognitive impairment; pave the way for the onset of dementia and/or of Alzheimer’s disease; and more. In the body, this can, and does, include the onset of abdominal / bowel disorders; general inflammation; and more. The addition of of N1-Methylpseudouridine to the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines”, in Yours Truly’s opinion, is one of the major “can’t find the fingerprints down the road” elements related to persons presenting with serious adverse effects after COVID-19 “vaccination.” The perpetrators who lab-created the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” drew on accumulated knowledge regarding the role of the T17 helper cells in the Uridine RNA—and inserted N1-Methylpseudouridine into these “vaccines” to negate the beneficial effects of the T17 helper cells in the Uridine RNA. The “scientific rationale” for the inclusion of N1-Methylpseudouridine was that this compound “increased the effectiveness of the vaccine.” One of the plethora of papers that “heralded” this “discovery” is here: https://doi.org/10.1021/acscentsci.1c00197, “Modifications in an Emergency: The Role of N1-Methylpseudouridine in COVID-19 Vaccines”, Kellie D. Nance, Jordan L. Meier, 6 April 2021. While it is a correct statement that N1-Methylpseudouridine does indeed “increase the efficiency” of the modRNA COVID-19 “vaccines” — it was “conveniently” left out of the “scientific rationale” explanation that this compound would also serve as a sort of “master switch” to “turn off” the beneficial T17 helper cells in the “vaccinated” person’s body (with no option to go back to the “on” setting) — and what would be the consequences.

THERE. MUST. BE. JUSTICE.

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

American Stories: When in the Course of human events – Part 10

As I have been researching and writing these stories I have been deeply moved by how each patriot started as well as how they finished their respective journeys in life. I am of the philosophical camp that it is not how you start, it is how you finish. However, the exercise of researching and writing these stories has led me to remember the primary message of the following song. I guess we are never too old to be reminded of a valuable lesson.

Y’all probably did not know that this old gray hair has enjoyed some of TobyMac’s works through the years, especially when he was in DC Talk. I have never been a fan of secular rap or hip hop, but music dominated, poetic rap of Toby and a few other Christian artists is a different story. I also especially enjoy the works of (David) Crowder with the earthy raw emotion in his words, observations and musical style. I am big fanboy of him, however, I enjoy many styles and genres of music. This song may or may not be familiar to you, so I am happy to provide this official lyrics version.

As we have dug into the lives of these incredible patriots I have been struck by the intention and commitment to doing what they individually believed was right for all colonists no matter the cost. This also was expressed in the behavior and support of their wives and families. They were globally focused on the greater good and not just on themselves and their families. Some seemed to throw all caution to the wind and attack the prospect of independence and freedom from the chains of oppression. Others sought compromise and accommodation until they were boxed into corners and forced to choose. All seemed to relish the opportunity to give their input and insights while serving in the governance of assemblies and congresses. They sensed they were playing a part in something much bigger than themselves and spoke of it in their letters and journals. When it became obvious to most that it was time to change history; all of the signers found consensus and were ready to accept whatever fate awaited them. They walked to the table to sign with solemn minds and hearts.

Fellow Christian – don’t you just love it when the Lord implements His plans and you get to play a part in it? This American Experiment was more than just a bunch of pizzed off rebel colonists. Something that grand developed from people who were of a similar ancestral lineage with linked family bonds who were placed under the thumbs of the leaders of the world’s great superpower of the day. Where have you seen that before, Christian? Oh yeah, in stories of struggle throughout the Holy Word. Fast forward to the past decade here in America. Can you see and feel the parallels, interconnections, etc. with history in America today?

The song speaks to that dash between birth and death that we see on many tombstones. You will read of the personal history, the dash, on one such tombstone below concerning a Declaration signer. It leads us to see that the time we spend in the dash is about the choices we make. It addresses how we spend that time has eternal consequences. We should choose wisely what we do and not waste it. Our time may not be one of a bitter war or strife, but it will always be a time of reaching the lost and hurting. Many God fearing men and women in these stories went about doing just that even when some had much safer options. We are the beneficiaries of their choices. They modeled what we know from John 15:13, which says, “Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends.” (NKJV)

I am eternally grateful for what those great founding fathers and their families did with their dashes. I have peace in doing these stories because I now see how the details of history relate to what God planned for America. To think that approximately 250 years later we are in the same camp as the Sons of Liberty and working out our freedom and liberty as AMERICA FIRST MAGA movement patriots is humbling as well as inspiring. Thanks to our collective commitment and response, our George Washington is in the White House saving and helping America prosper along with his patriot Vice President, who is performing the modern role of John Adams. While Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and others were building the rep and security of America in other lands, so is our equivalent Secretary of State and various cabinet members. The revolutionary warfighters stayed on the alert and protected the homeland against all enemies foreign and domestic, just as ours today under the leadership of a man who has been there and done that with honor and distinction on the battlefields as well as with a man who has defended our borders from illegals invading for decades.

We may even have advantages the patriots did not have with a hugely wealthy and successful man in a Darth cap with incredible vision, talent and intelligence who can slice through those who create their own fiefdoms within our central government. This man can deliver a modern, fiscally responsible operational system of government unlike any other on the planet that by its presence will prevent much of the corruption and fraud that we have endured for so long. He is doing what always must be done to starve the evil doers – follow the money and cut off the flow.

We also have men and women with steely resolves leading the work to root out those alien criminals and terrorists who would take us down that were invited in by past incompetent and even demonic administrations to infiltrate our ranks. This restoration that will lead to The Golden Age for America is being accomplished with perhaps the greatest cabinet and patriots backing any POTUS in history since the Declaration was signed. All desire to be a part of something bigger than themselves and we can all feel the success that awaits. They are ready and willing to protect and provide for America with the personal time they have left within their dashes, so that we can make the most of the time left within ours and all future Americans. They have been chosen for this great moment in history.

It is now time to discuss a couple more great founding fathers who accomplished much during their dashes.

George Walton

This signer was supposedly born in 1741 in Prince Edward County, VA, although it is not known with certainty and guesses range from 1740 – 1750. George Waltons education was informal and for the most part he taught himself. Both parents died when he was young, so he was adopted by an uncle who did not believe in schooling. As a result he apprenticed as a carpenter under that uncle. In 1769 after realizing he had an interest and the intelligence to do so, he moved to Savannah, GA to study law. He was later admitted to the bar in 1774. It is in this independence infused area that he joined the patriot movement. He spent many years in the state in its development as well as in a political feud with the infamous Button Gwinnett that we previously discussed.

In the lead up to the Revolutionary War he was elected Secretary of the state’s Provincial Congress and President of the Council of Safety. He became a delegate in the second Continental Congress that led to him being a Declaration signer. Somehow in the period he found time to marry Dorothy Camber and they had two sons together.

After the Declaration signing he entered into the Revolutionary War as Colonel of the First Regiment Militia in the state. He was hit in the leg by a musket ball, thrown from his horse and taken prisoner in the Battle of Savannah while serving under Gen. Robert Howe. Unlike some of his fellow colonist prisoners throughout the war, he was allowed to heal before being sent to Sunbury Prison. He was later released in 1779 in a prisoner exchange.

As a political ally and friend of Lachlan McIntosh he was involved in controversy his entire political career. He was even censured by the state legislature in 1783 for his role in the famous duel that resulted in Gwinnett ‘s death, but never formally charged. By this point he was considered to be one of the most competent and successful lawyers in the state. He was used to negotiate a treaty with the Cherokees in TN as well. He was requested to assist at the U. S. Constitutional Convention with its preparation, but declined due to all he was doing for the state.

None of the previous conflicts with Gwinnett prevented him from being named as the Chief Justice for the state that same year. He served in that role until 1789 while becoming a Presidential elector. He was also the acting Governor of the state in 1789 – 1790. He served as Superior Court Judge starting in 1789, which continued until 1798. In 1795 he served as a U. S. Senator on an interim basis.

He retired to the Augusta area and passed away in 1804. Though he owned a plantation, he had no slaves. This was possibly due to his upbringing as well as his understanding that all people were created equal. He was an abolitionist in a period and region where it would least be expected. Only one son survived from the marriage to Dorothy; George, Jr. He became the first Secretary of the Territory of Florida as well as the acting Governor. He was of great comfort to his father during his later years. Dorothy lived in Pensacola after her husband’s death and she passed away in 1832. Walton County, GA is named after him.

From an Augusta Press article of 10/14/21 by Scott Hudson:

In the center of Greene Street and across from the Municipal Building in Downtown Augusta sits an obelisk known as the Signer’s Monument. Underneath it lies the graves of Lyman Hall and George Walton, two of the three signers of the Declaration of Independence from Georgia.

Less than a mile away from the Signer’s Monument is Meadow Gardens, Walton’s home. The modest home is located near the corner of Walton Way and 13th Street. It has been preserved and holds weekday tours.

George Walton lived through very difficult, humble beginnings. He was self taught and driven to both learn and do his best for his country. He was a doer, not a public speaker known for his inspiring quotes. He gave his entire life to the independence movement as well as on the battlefield. After that he threw himself into public service and the law. As a result Georgia and America benefitted greatly. We have much to appreciate about this great American patriot.

John Witherspoon

With the previous discussion in Part 9 about Stockton and son in law, Rush, meeting with John Witherspoon in Scotland pre war, it is probably time to review him as a Declaration signer. John Witherspoon was born in 1722 or 1723 in Gifford, Scotland. His parents were James Witherspoon and Anna Walker. His mother taught him in the early years and he was able to read by age 4. She used the Bible and later in his youth he was able to recite the New Testament. His father was a minister of Yester Parish and very involved in the General Assembly. His mother came from a long line of ministers as well. The couple had six children.

John was so advanced in his education and in the understanding of English, Latin, Greek, French, the classics and mathematics that he was sent to the University of Edinburgh at age 13. By age 16 he had a Masters of Arts with a thesis in Latin. By age 20 he received a Doctor in Theology and was licensed to preach. At age 22 he received his first parish. Three years later he married Elizabeth Montgomery. They had nine children with five surviving that traveled with them later to the colonies.

When Dr. Samuel Finley died as President of the College of New Jersey, Witherspoon was solicited for the role by Stockton and Rush among others as mentioned previously. He had been requested to do so years before and declined. This time he was persuaded and they left for Philadelphia in 1768. He was successful almost immediately. He grew endowments, improved the curriculum, and helped bring peace within the Presbyterian Church. By 1770 the students began advocating for independence and Witherspoon agreed, including stating this belief in a commencement address. He was soon chosen to represent the county in the Provincial Assembly and went on to be chosen as a delegate to the Continental Congress.

When others in the period waffled on independence by suggesting the time was not ripe to do so, he replied to one such complainer, “Not ripe sir, we are not only ripe for the measure but in danger of rotting for the want of it”. Not long after the Declaration signing and the war increasing, the college was taken by the British. They proceeded to occupy the campus, burn down the library, and destroy his documents and personal writings. The next year he lost one son in the Battle of Germantown.

He stayed with the Continental Congress until 1782. He helped reorganize the Board of Treasury along with performing other duties that utilized his expertise. Prior to that in early 1778 he had begun the difficult rebuild of the college and was able to restart classes later in that year. As the war ended Witherspoon became more active than ever. He was in the voting delegation that approved the Constitution for NJ. He was a key contributor to the newly organized, independent Presbyterian Church in America. His contributions as a pastor, educator and patriot brought great recognition to Princeton.

In 1789, his wife passed away. A month later he turned his attention to involvement in the NJ Assembly. He soon had responsibilities that included prisoner treatment, pensions of invalids, public debts, promotion of religion and morality, divorce, paper money, vital statistics and promotion of manufacturing. The seemingly odd thing was he kept two slaves, although as he aged he turned his attention toward abolition and the systematic acclimation of slaves into society as free men. It seems that a number of his descendants were involved in Confederate causes in the years that followed. Witherspoon believe as Charles Carroll did, that the nation was heading toward abolition anyway. He preferred the slave be assisted into freedom and the world that laid ahead rather than cutting them loose to make a go without preparation and acceptance by society.

Apparently, Witherspoon was not done with living at this point, so at age 68 he married 24 year old Ann Marshall Dill. The couple had two children, one of whom died a week or so after birth. It was not long before he lost his eyesight and passed away in 1794.

He left us with many memorable quotes, a handful of which are below:

It is only the fear of God, can deliver us from the fear of man.

Never rise to speak till you have something to say; and when you have said it, cease.

Those who wish well to the State ought to choose places of trust men of inward principle, justified by exemplary conversation.

The people in general ought to have regard to the moral character of those whom they invest with moral authority either in the legislative, executive, or judicial branches.

Never read a book through merely because you have begun it.

Wisdom. Words for all of us to take to heart just like they were in that day. The following is inscribed on his tombstone in Princeton Cemetery, a description of his dash.

Beneath this marble lie interred
the mortal remains of
JOHN WITHERSPOON, D.D. LL.D.
a venerable and beloved President of the College of
New-Jersey.
He was born in the parish of Yester, in Scotland,
on the 5th of February, 1722, O. S.
And was liberally educated in the University of Edinburgh;
invested with holy orders in the year 1743,
he faithfully performed the duties of
his pastoral charge,
during five and twenty years,
first at Beith, and then at Paisley.
Elected president of Nassau Hall,
he assumed the duties of that office on the 13th of August, 1768,
with the elevated expectations of the public.
Excelling in every mental gift,
he was a man of pre-eminent piety and virtue
and deeply versed in the various branches
of literature and the liberal arts.
A grave and solemn preacher,
his sermons abounded in the most excellent doctrines and precepts,
and in lucid expositions of the Holy Scriptures.
Affable, pleasant, and courteous in familiar conversation,
he was eminently distinguished
in concerns and deliberations of the church,
and endowed with the greatest prudence
in the management and instruction of youth.
He exalted
the reputation of the college amongst foreigners,
and greatly promoted the advancement
of its literary character and taste.
He was, for a long time, conspicuous
Among the most brilliant luminaries of learning and of the Church.
At length,
universally venerated, beloved, and lamented,
he departed this life on the fifteenth of November, 1794
aged 73 years.

John Witherspoon made his mark on America that will long be remembered especially as a patriot and leader of what became Princeton University. He laid a foundational building block for education and faith that has stood the test of time. He was a great American patriot.

Conclusion

I will stop here with this part. The lessons learned appear profound. We find the dash on every tombstone represents the results of the breath God gives all of us. We find that with the Declaration of Independence signers that they gave all for freedom and liberty. None were perfect men, they all had feet of clay just like all of us today. Yet, they allowed themselves to be used by the Lord to achieve what we now experience despite all of the hardship and strife.

With Walton and Witherspoon we see two very different men and a study of contrasts. One was raised in hardship, not even permitted to experience the love and care of parents for a time due to life and death getting in the way. He was self taught by his own curiosity and intelligence to achieve. He had the internal fortitude to take on the challenges of his life and overcome while finding meaning for his existence.

The other was raised in plenty and of good repute. He experienced the benefits of societal standing and parental love and care. He learned the value of his Christian upbringing and threw himself into learning all he could as quickly as he could with the religious and educational opportunities that were made available. He achieved at an incredible pace and was placed in positions of trust in his native Scotland as well as later in America.

When it came time to walk to the table to sign, they both did in solemn agreement and despite their very different journeys. They both did so knowing it could result in their deaths and harm to their families and communities. How is it that an orphaned southern colonist boy who grew up hard in GA and a Scottish born boy brought into a world of privilege who immigrated to America to restore a college in New Jersey, could equally share legacies as great American patriots? That is our shared American legacy. Both were needed, both answered the call, and both were honored to serve all of the citizens and as a result, all of us.

The hand of God was on display then and is now. We need to hear him and respond. As Isaiah said in Isaiah 6:8, “Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?” Then I said, “Here am I. Send me!” (NASB)

Dear MAGA: 20250316 Open Topic

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Fallen Angels

When exactly God created angels is open for debate, but what is known for sure is that God created everything good because God, in His holiness, cannot create something sinful. So when Satan, who was once the angel Lucifer, rebelled against God and fell from heaven (Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28), one third of the angelic host joined his insurrection (Revelation 12:3-4,9). There is no doubt these fallen angels are now known as the demons.

We know that hell was prepared for the devil and his angels, according to Matthew 25:41: “Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.’” Jesus, by using the possessive word his makes it clear that these angels belong to Satan. Revelation 12:7-9 describes an end-times angelic battle between Michael and “his angels” and the devil and “his angels.” From these and similar verses, it is clear that demons and fallen angels are synonymous.

Some reject the idea that the demons are the fallen angels due to the fact that Jude verse 6 declares the angels who sinned to be “bound with everlasting chains.” However, it is clear that not all of the angels who sinned are “bound,” as Satan is still free (1 Peter 5:8). Why would God imprison the rest of the fallen angels, but allow the leader of the rebellion to remain free? It seems that Jude verse 6 is referring to God confining the fallen angels who rebelled in an additional way, likely the “sons of God” incident in Genesis chapter 6.

The most common alternate explanation for the origin of the demons is that when the Nephilim of Genesis 6 were destroyed in the Flood, their disembodied souls became the demons. While the Bible does not specifically say what happened to the souls of the Nephilim when they were killed, it is unlikely that God would destroy the Nephilim in the Flood only to allow their souls to cause even greater evil as the demons. The most biblically consistent explanation for the origin of the demons is that they are the fallen angels, the angels who rebelled against God with Satan.
xhttps://www.gotquestions.org/fallen-angels.html

Health Friday 3.14.2025 Open Thread: Heart Issues After COVID-19 “Vaccination”: And About the Virus Itself

The above free image of heart shapes is courtesy of iStock and Google Images.

Health Friday is a series devoted to information about Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. As today’s post speaks about the disaster of COVID-19 (the COVID-19 virus itself, and the COVID-19 “vaccines”), Yours Truly dedicates it to the memory of all persons, of whatever age or location, who have passed away from the negative effects of these lab-created bioweapons.

There are Important Wolf Moon Notifications; the Rules of our late, good Wheatie; and, certain caveats from Yours Truly, of which readers should be aware. They are linked here. NOTE: Yours Truly has checked today’s offering for any AI-generated content. To the best of my knowledge and belief, there is none. Also: if readers wish to post anything in the discussion thread for today’s offering that is AI-generated, they must cite their source.

Today’s post may be regarded as a “narrow-focus” offering, one of a “mini-series.” This first “narrow-focus” offering regards the inducement of cardiac issues after COVID-19 “vaccination”; and, the potential for cardiac issues also induced from an infection of the COVID-19 virus itself. Yours Truly begins here: https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-study-fatal-malignant-cardiac, “NEW STUDY — Fatal Malignant Cardiac Tumors Following COVID-19 mRNA Injection”, by Nicolas Hulscher, MPH, 6 March 2025. The paper that is cited in the article is here: https://doi.org/10.1093/ehjcr/ytaf009, “Heart-breaking tumours: a case series of malignant pericardial effusion”, Abdur Rahman Mirza, et al., 18 January 2025. The paper is also found here: https://academic.oup.com/ehjcr/article/9/3/ytaf009/7960074. Below are screenshots of the Introduction of the paper; followed by a screenshot of the graphic of the paper that traces the “journey of pericarditis”:

And, the final portion of the Discussion section of the paper:

Note the mention of “diagnostic bias” regarding whether or not a cardiac issue presents after the patient has been COVID-19 “vaccinated.” In Yours Truly’s opinion, the young physician who is the lead author of the cited paper has likely not studied how the COVID-19 “vaccines” affect the heart (for example, this article: https://doctors4covidethics.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/causality-article.pdf, “Vascular and organ damage induced by mRNA vaccines: irrefutable proof of causality”, Michael Palmer, MD, and Sucharit Bhakdi, MD); has likely not read the BNT162b2 5.3.6 Postmarketing Experience report that Pfizer-BioNTech gave to the FDA in April 2021 (https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf); and, has likely not read any of the posts that Dr. Peter A. McCullough, MD, has on his website (https://www.thefocalpoints.com/.) One suspects that many other physicians have not read these items, either.

Turning to the Hulscher article on The Focal Points blog, cited above: It is known that the COVID-19 “vaccines” can, and do, cause pericarditis, a type of inflammation involving the heart (please refer to the BNT162b2 Postmarketing Experience report cited above, page 36 of the report, in the Appendix 1. List of Adverse Events of Special Interest section of said report.) The Cleveland Clinic has an article on pericarditis, found here: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17353-pericarditis. Below is a screenshot from the Cleveland Clinic article:

It is also known that the COVID-19 “vaccines” can, and do, cause myocarditis (another type of cardiac inflammation.) Both pericarditis and myocarditis can, and do, cause permanent damage to the heart. Both pericarditis and myocarditis can ultimately result in the death of the patient. However, the COVID-19 “vaccines” contain BOTH the ingredients of the original Wuhan Hu1 virus (SARS-CoV-2 virus, aka COVID-19 virus), AND lab “enhancements” (dangerous lipid nanoparticles; N1-methylpseudouridine; “loose DNA” from the manufacturing process; a piece of the SV40 African Green Monkey cancer promoter gene code) — that make the COVID-19 “vaccines” much more dangerous and/or deadly to the cardiac system of the “vaccinated” person. There is more new information on this situation (thank you to Valerie Curren): https://slaynews.com/news/epidemiologist-new-data-linking-covid-vaccines-global-heart-death-surge/, by Frank Bergman, 1 March 2025. The paper linked in the article is found here: https://doi.org/10.4330/wjc.v17.12.1039909, “Risk stratification for future cardiac arrest after COVID-19 vaccination”, Peter A. McCullough, MD, and Nicolas Hulscher, MPH, 26 February 2025. Below are two screenshots from the paper: the Abstract; and, the McCullough Protocol for spike protein detoxification:

Note the clear statement that cardiac issues can appear years after the person is COVID-19 “vaccinated.”

And, the McCullough Protocol:

Yours Truly finds it ** interesting ** that the above paper was given a “Grade C” for “scientific quality” by the paper’s reviewers, none of whom are identified except by their initials.

**** However, malignant pericardial effusion is a form of cardiac cancer. It is not an inflammation. Below is a screenshot from the National Cancer Institute definition of this condition (https://www.cancer.gov/publications/dictionaries/cancer-terms/def/malignant-pericardial-effusion):

Malignant pericardial effusion is the subject of the Mirza, et al., paper cited above in today’s post.

**** On the other hand, the COVID-19 virus itself can cause cardiac issues in persons who contract an infection of said virus. The following paper is from July 2020, well before any COVID-19 “vaccines” was granted an Emergency Use Authorization in any country: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41569-020-0413-9, “COVID-19 and cardiovascular disease: from basic mechanisms to clinical perspectives”, Masataka Nishiga, et al., 20 July 2020. This paper is a good source of information regarding how the COVID-19 virus itself works; and, how this virus can affect the cardiovascular system. A screenshot of the Abstract of the paper is below:

Another paper, also from 2020, well before any COVID-19 “vaccine” was granted an EUA, regards how the COVID-19 virus itself can affect the cardiovascular system: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7095524/, “COVID-19 and the cardiovascular system”, Yi-Tong Ma, et al., 5 March 2020. Yours Truly finds it ** interesting ** that the authors of this paper are affiliated with either the Wuhan Institute of Virology, or to medical facilities linked to the People’s Liberation Army (all CCP.) Below is a screenshot from the Background section of the paper:

The following article has more information on the ACE2 receptors in the human body: https://www.cas.org/resources/cas-insights/ace2-covid-19-target, “ACE2: Targeting a potentially important receptor in disease pathogensis”, by Angela Zhou, 15 December 2022. Below is a screenshot from this article:

The point here is that BOTH the COVID-19 virus itself (aka SARS-CoV-2), AND the COVID-19 “vaccines” (since these injectables contain SARS-CoV-2), target and attack the ACE2 receptor cells in the human body.

Yours Truly will again emphasize that the COVID-19 virus itself, AND the COVID-19 “vaccines”, were BOTH designed to cause as much damage to the human body as possible. They are BOTH lab-created bioweapons. The COVID-19 virus is not “just another type of virus.” The COVID-19 “vaccines” were designed to be capable of “shedding” elements of these injectables onto other persons (whether those persons are “vaccinated”, or not.) What is of utmost importance is that all people, “vaccinated” or not, must be doing all that is possible to have, and to maintain, the highest degree of personal health. The COVID-19 “vaccines” must be removed from use worldwide — now.

THERE. MUST. BE. JUSTICE.

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

American Stories: When in the Course of human events – Part 9

Since I brought up the subject of Shays’ Rebellion in Part 8, we might as well dig into the subject briefly. Most of us were never educated in school about the truth that not all of our citizens got along after defeating the British. Everything did not just become hunky dory within our nation’s boundaries. At times, the independent and contrary nature of some could not be appeased or led into compromise easily. Shays’ Rebellion is one of those situations that was brought on by real injustice. It dealt with the unequal and unfair administration of the law within the citizenry. The law and economic system themselves were still in development. As a result ethical issues that had gone unresolved caused great tension. It was clear that there was still a lot of pent up anger and bitterness that carried over from British oppression due to the presence of the loyalists still living and controlling governments and businesses within the borders. It led to violence and angry confrontations at times.

In other words, people being people.

Shays’ Rebellion

Rather than repeat the words of others, I have provided two good links. I urge you to read them and the third link further down in the body.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/shays-rebellion

https://www.thoughtco.com/shays-rebellion-causes-effects-4158282

As things generally work, we can now go back and see that without the rebellion, there may never have been the compromise and reconciliation that followed. Lessons learned in central national governance and the states paying back accrued war debts led to the termination of the Articles of Confederation instead of amending same within the same Convention that later produced the U. S. Constitution.

Whether this last point was a wise path to follow or not from my viewpoint will be addressed in a future part. But as a spoiler, quickly throwing the baby out with the bathwater may not have been the best of ideas. However, the Federalists were hellbent on getting it done the way it eventually did.

Many American citizens, primarily farmers, lost their property and assets unfairly in deference to those who had the upper hand – the merchants, bankers and wealthy who had the support of government leaders and many politicians. The truth is that few states had the capacity to pay wages that were past due to members of the Continental military during the war. The new federal government did not have the coin either. Yes, it is factually correct to state that the new federal and state governments of that day welched on their legal responsibilities to pay war participants what they were due. In Massachusetts (Taxachusetts) this led to many losing their farms and assets to debtors who were supported by the government and judiciary. To get a feel for how the fighters were to be compensated read the summary link below.

https://www.battlefields.org/learn/articles/soldier-pay-american-revolution

Note that Washington and Morris paid a lot of the wages during the war out of their own wealth at one critical point. Many of the wealthy founding fathers did likewise.

The situation in Massachusetts was the stuff that the Crown and Parliament would do that the same people in authority on the winning side of the war and this rebellion had fought against. That is the ugly truth that is glossed over frequently by historians and certainly our federal government in its records and archives.

It sucked big time.

Walk in the shoes of the common man for a time. You are a simple farmer in that patriot inspired era and region. You risk your life, family, property, community – everything – to a belief that the colonies should seek independence from their oppressors who taxed everything that moved and treated colonists as their lessers. You endure great hardship, lose friends and family, and have your home destroyed by the vengeful Brits. Adding to the misery you never receive the full wages the state and your colonial government promise to pay for your voluntary service to your country; while newer recruits later in the war receive a larger bounty than you did to sign up.

But you let it all go because you now live in a free country that is not taxed to death. You really have no way to take on the authorities to receive your back pay anyway.

You soon learn that you have been put on the clock to pay merchant debts as well as accrued colony/state taxes from the past war debts are still due. While working hard in your return to private life and trying to make a living on your farm, the politicians are busy passing laws to tax you at high rates to pay back state war related debts as well as other commercial debts to the wealthy merchants. This eventually causes the loss of your property because you have no funds to pay as well as dealing with the ensuing family hardships. Adding more injury to the insult, not only do you lose your farm to foreclosure, but you are sent to a filthy, dungeon like debtors prison for failure to pay.

You might become more than a little angry over it all as we would. Pizzed may be a better word.

The war debts and bills the merchants and governments owed to others were real. But so was the back pay that was owed to the military members who actually fought the war and enabled those merchants to stay alive and in business. Pensions for widows and disabled veterans were given by the new government and it was the right thing to do. Not paying all the other men who actually fought the war what they were due was a huge violation of trust.

You become aware that the state government had the ability all along to forge a compromise to provide relief to you and the people as well as assist the merchants by amending the terms of the debt repayment. All they had to do was print more money, pay you the wages from the war and reduce the onerous taxes. This would have temporarily increased inflation as we know, which the merchants fought against – caring only for themselves and not for the people that saved their bacon. I guess the mafia types the government borrowed the war expenditures from did not agree to this compromise. They created a situation that allowed the wealthy predators to bottom feed on the foreclosed properties of their lessers. Their former British oppressors would be proud (and were) of their exploits since many were Brit loyalists, still owing their allegiance to the Crown that had been defeated.

We would understand it this way today: Who needs a destructive wildfire when you can just use excessive war debt and taxes to accomplish the same evil results? It is a parallel path with what Clinton/Soetoro/Biden had America following before MAGA and America First saved the day. Create a debt quagmire through war and other means that cannot be repaid that causes misery and huge wealth transfers to the already wealthy and dictators. A tale as old as world history.

Never forget that truth, fellow patriots.

Back to the story. In response to the highly volatile conditions and unrest the state government did nothing of substance to assist and permitted the destruction of their own citizens and former war fighters. They revealed who they were. Most Democrats of today would be very proud of them.

However, back in those days it led to Shays’ Rebellion and other conflicts in the new nation. In these days it led to J6 and November 5, 2024. If there is anything we have learned as America First MAGA movement participants it is that things are not as they have been represented by those with nefarious agendas.

As we learn from the linked and other accounts, the vast majority of rebel participants received amnesty or were pardoned to restore order. Which was an obvious acknowledgement by those in authority that the participants had valid reasons to do what they did. The Governor (Bowdoin) and Lt. Governor (Lincoln) who failed the people were tossed out of office. The new legislature cut the taxes and placed a moratorium on debts. This led to better economic conditions and lessening of unrest.

Knowing this, does it help explain why the vote was so close to approve the Constitution after the Massachusetts Compromise was reached?

What should have happened immediately after the war ended, finally happened after the common man rose up once again against their new oppressors. Those actions brought an end to this unfortunate chapter in American history.

However, lemons were turned into lemonade when Shays’ Rebellion and other significant rebellious events happened throughout the former colonies who had become states. People with various interests and beliefs realized they needed to reunite together to help the young republic succeed. Resolving the conflicts and seeing the need to create more unity led to this revered leader coming out of retirement as the new U. S. Constitution was enacted.

Our thanks go to Daniel Shays and others who fought for what was right and good for the common man just as our appreciation does for the America First MAGA patriots of today. Time to discuss more signers.

Richard Stockton

This son of Quaker and wealthy landowner, John Stockton, was born in 1730 in the Princeton, NJ area. Richard Stockton attended Samuel Finley’s Nottingham Academy and went on to graduate from the College of New Jersey (now Princeton U) at the age of 18. He began the study of law under noted attorney, David Ogden, and was admitted to the bar in 1754. He was highly respected in the profession. He married his wife, Annis Boudinot, a noted poet and the sister of Elias Boudinot, a well known statesman of the colony. They had six children together. One of his daughters, Julia, later married Declaration signer Benjamin Rush. Through the years, Stockton became a close friend of George Washington. He was physically tall, considered handsome and very well spoken within society. When touring England, Scotland and Ireland in 1766, he was invited to attend events with the King and Queen, who were impressed with his high character and abilities.

He toured Scotland and was invited to visit with the noblemen and society. During those times he and his future son-in-law Rush, who was a medical student in Scotland at the time, met with Rev. John Witherspoon to try to convince him to become the President of the College of New Jersey, a position he had previously declined. He subsequently agreed and came to the colonies to lead the school. Ten years later, Witherspoon stood with Stockton and Rush as they all signed the Declaration of Independence.

Back in the colonies Stockton had little interest in politics and government for many years.  Per Wiki he once wrote, “The public is generally unthankful, and I never will become a Servant of it, till I am convinced that by neglecting my own affairs I am doing more acceptable Service to God and Man.”

In 1768 he was appointed to the royal executive council of New Jersey and later to the Supreme Court. As the independence movement continued to gain momentum, in 1774 he drafted a plan for self rule of the colonies while still owing allegiance to the Crown. It was rejected and Stockton faced a choice he had to make. He chose the colonies and independence. He was deeply moved by the arguments of John Adams when it came time to approve the document and sign it. Rather than holding offices offered to him back in NJ, he chose to remain active and a member of Congress. He was sent along with fellow signer, George Clymer, to inspect the northern Continental Army for its needs. They reported back to John Hancock of the dire need for nearly everything. He went on to actively solicit basic clothing and shoes that were severely needed for the warfighters, some of whom were barelegged and barefoot.

He learned of the British invasion of NJ and quickly went home to move his family about thirty miles away. However, he was still captured and treated horribly. He stayed locked in leg irons without sufficient clothing and food in the dreaded New York City’s Provost Prison where 12,000 men died as well as on nearby prison ships. After George Washington became aware, he protested his treatment to British Gen. Howe. Stockton was given a parole as long as he did not participate in the war and was released. He was too sick to participate anyway. He was severely malnourished and near death from which he never fully recovered. When he arrived back at his home, he found it had been plundered and nearly destroyed by Gen. Cornwallis and his men who had stayed in the home during the war. He survived only through the personal assistance of family and friends. Over time he became strong enough to return to work some in his law practice and taught a couple of students. However, he died in 1781 before being able to experience the end of the war and our nation’s independence. Even his death was excruciatingly painful as he had developed a lip cancer that grew into his throat before he passed.

Stockton’s wife, Annis, continued in correspondence for the rest of her life with their friend, George Washington, including writing a poem about Cornwallis’ surrender to Washington. An excerpt of Washington’s letter of appreciation stated, “…This address, from a person of your refined taste and elegance of expression, affords a pleasure beyond my powers of utterance, and I have only to lament that the hero of your pastoral is not more deserving of your pen; but the circumstance shall be placed among the happiest events of my life. I have the honor to be, madam you’re most obedient and respectful servant, G. Washington.” 

The respect for the greatness and commitment of Richard Stockton was exhibited by a statue of him being placed in Statuary Hall in the Capitol Building in Washington, DC. He was one of only six signers so honored. His home of Morven became the New Jersey Governor’s Mansion from 1954-1981. His eldest son went on to become a NJ senator and four generations of Stockton’s served in Congress.

Again, a man of wealth and high position in society who could have avoided the personal destruction that he lived through by simply staying uninvolved, gave his all for America and freedom for all of his countrymen and all of us who have followed. He deserved far better than he received. He was the definition of an American Patriot.

James Smith

James Smith was born in Dublin, Ireland in 1719. He and his Presbyterian faith based family immigrated from there when he was ten years old and lived in the Cheshire County, PA. His father became a successful farmer. He was informally educated by local clergy, then educated more at Philadelphia Academy (Penn), and later apprenticed in law under his brother, George. He was admitted to the PA bar at the age of 26. He moved with his brother to the more frontier area of Cumberland County and spent his time surveying. After about five years he moved back to the more populated city of York to practice law full time.

At the age of 41 he married Eleanor Armor and they had five children. With his surveying experience, he was highly recognized in the area for his work with property transfers in his law practice. He invested into a local iron foundry that failed and cost him greatly financially.

As the independence movement expanded, Smith became an advocate. He attended the 1774 provincial assembly and offered a paper on the considerations of the relationship between the Colonies and Great Britain. He recommended boycotting British goods, which he believed would force British merchants to pressure their government to reduce taxes and oppression in the colonies. Later that year he organized a local militia and was chosen its Captain. With the British continuing their oppressive activities, the unit quickly grew to battalion size. The men wanted him to be the Commander, but he declined due to his age (55), preferring a younger man take the role. Even so, most accounts had him serving in action during the war.

He was elected as a delegate to the state convention in 1775 and said the following, “…if the British administration should determine by force to effect a submission to the late arbitrary acts of the British parliament, in such a situation, we hold it our indispensable duty to resist such force, and at every hazard to defend the rights and liberties of America.”

Bold. Very bold.

Smith was considered to have similar beliefs concerning independence as both Adams, Sherman, both Morris, Rush, Floyd, Lee and Patrick Henry. After agreeing to the Declaration’s contents and signing, he returned to York with a copy to read to citizens in the town square. He continued to serve in the Congress and state until 1778. He was elected Brigadier General of the state militia in 1781 and resumed his law practice as the war ended. He worked in the practice until retiring at age 81. He passed away in 1806 at the age of 86. His wife passed away in 1818.

James Smith was another in a long list of devoted American patriot Declaration signers that gave his full commitment, voice and actions to the cause of liberty and freedom.

Thomas Nelson, Jr.

Born in Yorktown, VA in 1738, Thomas Nelson, Jr. was born into Virginia aristocracy and privately educated in England. He graduated from Christ’s College at Cambridge. His parents were William Nelson, a former governor of the state and Elizabeth Carter Burwell, daughter of former acting governor of the state, Robert “King” Carter and the widow of Nathaniel Burwell. He was the grandson of Thomas “Scotch Tom” Nelson who immigrated from England and became a successful businessman and politician.

He returned from England and assisted his father in operating their plantations, which utilized slave labor. He married Lucy Grymes Burwell and helped manage the estates left to her sons with the death of her first husband.

It was soon after his return that he was elected as a representative to the House of Burgesses in 1761 at age 23. He served 6 terms, learning the political ropes. As the state moved more toward independence he was elected to a number of their state conventions preceding the war. He played a role in the development of the state’s Constitution as well as serving in the Continental Congress and signing the Declaration of Independence. He was later forced to take time away to recover from an illness in 1778-1779, only to be elected to return there and in state roles in the years that followed. He was one of the thirteen committee members who drafted the Articles of Confederation. He was known to spend large sums of money as well as make loans for the military to have sufficient ammunition and supplies. He gave so much he had very little when he passed away a decade later.

Nelson was a brigadier general of the lower VA militia and later followed Thomas Jefferson as governor of the state. He was in action in the final siege ofYorktown led by General Washington and his troops in combination with General Lafayette and the French army combatants. It is in this battle that Nelson’s legend was solidified.

Neither the American or French army would fire upon Nelson’s home, the Nelson House, where General Cornwallis had his headquarters. This angered Nelson. He publicly offered five guineas (each had a quarter ounce of gold) to the first war fighter to fire a cannon and hit his home. That was enough to get it done. The NPS has placed two cannonballs in the walls where the home was hit. I assume Nelson paid as he stated he would.

That story is all sorts of patriot awesome! He was a real American badazz!

Unfortunately, in 1781 Nelson’s health took a negative turn that forced him to resign as Governor and was succeeded by fellow signer Benjamin Harrison. His health continued to deteriorate over the next four years. He never recovered from the effects of being in the field and fighting the war. He passed away at age 50 in 1789. Nelson County in VA and in KY were named in his honor. His wife, Lucy, passed away at age 87 in 1830. The couple had eleven children together in addition to the son from Lucy’s first marriage.

Thomas Nelson, Jr. died too soon to receive the full benefits of his work in helping to deliver America its independence. However, he will never be forgotten for his leadership and commitment as a great American patriot.

Conclusion

This has been a story of three extraordinary Declaration signers with three very different experiences and conclusions to their lives. They did it for God, country and family. That was the reward. Their wealth and standing in society were cast aside.

Yet, for every Declaration signer there were thousands of common citizens doing their parts against all odds as well. You will not find their busts, statutes, paintings or honors in places of prominence in American institutions and museums. They just did what they needed to do and returned to their lives and families as unsung American patriot heroes.

There is also the truth that not everything went well or fairly for the participants and early citizens of America.

As they say, freedom isn’t free. However, it is well worth the cost to pursue.

Dear MAGA: 20250309 Open Topic

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On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, we can find something here that will build us up a little . . . give us a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God;
do not mourn nor weep.” . . .
“Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet,
and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared;
for this day is holy to our Lord.
Do not sorrow,
for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


Elect Angels

When God created the angels, they were all good just like the rest of creation (Genesis 1:31). Angels were holy and faithfully devoted to the Lord, but this changed when Satan rebelled against God (Isaiah 14:12–15; Ezekiel 28:16). Many angels followed Satan’s rebellion and thus became “fallen” angels, or demons (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 12:3–4). In contrast, the angels who remained faithful to the Lord are known as “holy angels” or “elect angels” (Mark 8:38; 1 Timothy 5:21).

The Greek word for “elect” found in 1 Timothy 5:21 refers to being chosen or picked. This would indicate that God chose some angels not to fall with Satan. The same word in the verse, eklekton, is used elsewhere for Christians who are elected and chosen by God in salvation (Romans 8:33; Titus 1:1). The word suggests that the elect angels, like elect people, were chosen by God and cannot lose their elect position. None of the elect angels will rebel against God or lose their chosen status, just as Christians cannot lose their salvation as God’s elect children (John 10:28; Romans 8:38–39). Secure in their standing before the Lord, elect angels cannot sin or go against the commands of God but will remain faithful to the Lord forever.

Of course, the fact that the holy angels are “elect” does not imply they are “saved” in the same way that Christians are. Both angels and Christians are chosen and elected by the Lord, but only humans can experience the new birth, forgiveness, and other aspects of salvation. The elect angels cannot experience forgiveness, since they have never sinned. Furthermore, Jesus died for humanity, not for angels. He took on human flesh and came to save mankind from their sins; His sacrifice was not to save the fallen angels (Hebrews 2:16). Angels “long to look into these things,” and are fascinated by the fact that the Son of God laid down His life to save humans (1 Peter 1:12). In this way, the election of angels is different from the election of Christians.

In addition to calling them “chosen” or “elect” angels, Scripture also designates them as good and “holy angels” (Mark 8:38). Worshipping and serving God are the main purposes of the elect angels (Revelation 7:11). Like Christians, elect angels are servants of God who seek to bring Him glory (Revelation 22:9). God uses the elect angels to carry out His will and to provide ministry to believers (Hebrews 1:14). Throughout history, elect angels have been a part of God’s plan in delivering messages (Daniel 8:16; 9:21; Luke 1:19, 26), carrying out judgment (Genesis 19:13; Psalm 78:49; Revelation 14:17–20), and providing encouragement to God’s people (Acts 27:23).

The elect angels have the special purpose of serving God and doing as He commands. The elect angels minister to believers today, and they will also play a major part in the events of the end times. The power and position of the elect angels are awe-inspiring, but the Bible teaches that Jesus’ followers are more blessed than even they, since believers “have been made complete in Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority” (Colossians 2:10, BSB).
xhttps://www.gotquestions.org/elect-angels.html

2025·03·08 We Will Have Justice Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

Speaker Johnson: A Reminder.

And MTG is there to help make it stick.

January 6 tapes. A good start…but then nothing.

Were you just hoping we’d be distracted by the first set and not notice?

Are you THAT kind of “Republican”?

Are you Kevin McCarthy lite?

What are you waiting for?

I have a personal interest in this issue.

And if you aren’t…what the hell is wrong with you?

Fun Quote

(HT Aubergine)

This is amazing. This is glorious. Summon a surgeon – it’s been a little over a week and you’re supposed to call the doctor after just four hours.

From Kurt Schlichter, who can certainly write a good rant (https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2025/01/30/trumps-winning-streak-is-totally-discombobulating-the-democrats-n2651308)

Yep, Kurt has noticed that lots of people are getting twanging schadenböners.

And you do not have to be male to get this kind of böner.

Hat tip to Scott (I think–if it wasn’t Scott it was 4GodAndCountry) for this video, which implies a LOT of schadenböners in our future.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot (i.e., paper) Prices

Last week:

Gold $2,858.10
Silver $31.20
Platinum $953.00
Palladium $945.00
Rhodium $5,100.00
FRNSI* 137.261-
Gold:Silver 91.606-

This week, 3PM Mountain Time, Kitco “ask” prices. Markets have closed for the weekend.

Gold $2,911.50
Silver $32.60
Platinum $974.00
Palladium $934.00
Rhodium $6,000.00
FRNSI* 139.844-
Gold:Silver 89.310-

Palladium is below platinum again…but look at rhodium, which has gone up nine hundred bucks!

The people who bloviate on this sort of thing for a living (if this is all I did I’d starve to death) claim the precious metals are “consolidating” with gold in the 2910-2920 range while the stock indices go down. At least silver is up relative to gold!

*The SteveInCO Federal Reserve Note Suckage Index (FRNSI) is a measure of how much the dollar has inflated. It’s the ratio of the current price of gold, to the number of dollars an ounce of fine gold made up when the dollar was defined as 25.8 grains of 0.900 gold. That worked out to an ounce being $20.67+71/387 of a cent. (Note gold wasn’t worth this much back then, thus much gold was $20.67 71/387ths. It’s a subtle distinction. One ounce of gold wasn’t worth $20.67 back then, it was $20.67.) Once this ratio is computed, 1 is subtracted from it so that the number is zero when the dollar is at its proper value, indicating zero suckage.

Latest Flerfer Goofiness

OK unlike last week I’m going to try to supply some actual content. (Last week was nonstop busy.)

Our friend Fkatzoid is back. Watch him duck and weave when he’s asked where the south pole is (at 16:45).

Will Duffy is trying to make the point that whether you head south from Africa, South America, or New Zealand, you end up at the same place when you get to the south pole. According to the Gleasons’s Map, however, the South Pole isn’t a point, it’s a circle approximately 60,000 miles in circumference, so that shouldn’t happen. Either Fkatzoid is an even bigger idiot than he showed himself to be last time, or he’s trying very hard to evade having this pointed out to his audience.

Later on at about 2:31:45…apparently Lisbeth (who went to Antarctica) is on the verge of joining Mark Sargent’s channel; MC Toon begs her not to ruin her life doing so.

Just a few minutes later, you see someone named JK trying to find a video proving that people who try to go to Antarctica will be intercepted by any of a number of different navies and turned back as soon as they sail across 60 S latitude. He claims there are many of these videos; he eventually finds the one Will Duffy expected–taken in the Bass Strait between Tasmania and mainland Australia, nowhere near Antarctica. Listen to McToon’s rant at 2:45:22.

Here’s another debate with Duffy destroying someone I’ve never heard of named Nathan Thompson. (Not to be confused with Nathan “where are the guns” Oakley.)

Two Birds…One Stone

OK this one is going to seem like geology…then physics…then back to geology. It’s a good illustration of how all of human knowledge about the natural world is interconnected. Sometimes great progress is made when people in two different fields get together; sometimes a new discipline even is formed–recent work has done much to highlight the effects of living organisms on the geology of the Earth…yes, our rocks would be different if there were no life on earth (and there’d be no geologists to notice, of course).

An Extremely Inadequate Intro to Mineralogy

Let’s take a very brief and incomplete (and likely incompetent, as I am out over my skis here) look at mineralogy.

I’ve talked about rocks a lot but not so much about what they’re made of. If you look closely–perhaps it will take a microscope–at an igneous rock (one that cooled from the molten state) you’ll see it’s made up of a bunch of different kinds of crystals. Crystals form when a chemical compound comes out of solution and the individual molecules line up in a regular array.

Some rocks are just one big crystal. Others are multiple crystals of the same thing.

The compounds that make the crystals are minerals (and one of their characteristics is how the crystals are shaped).

What are those compounds? Let’s set the stage a bit. If you take the outer layer of the Earth, the Earth’s crust, and analyze a completely average piece of it…it’s 46.1 percent oxygen by weight. Oxygen! There is much, much, much more oxygen beneath your feet than above your head in the air. Oxygen is also the third most abundant element in the universe as a whole–after hydrogen and helium.

Coming in second at 28.2 percent is silicon. Then aluminum at 8.23%, iron at 5.63%, calcium at 4.15%, sodium at 2.36%, magnesium at 2.33% potassium at 2.09%, titanium at 0.565%…and everything else is at 1/7th of a percent or less. At the bottom end you have rhenium at 7/10ths of one part per billion. (However two gases, krypton and xenon, also show up at even lower percentages, and a bunch of transient radioactive elements are lower still than that.)

The ones at the top of the list don’t ever show up in pure elemental or “native” form; they’re pretty reactive. Minerals will be largely (but very luckily for us, not completely) formed of these elements.

The elements in general are divided into groups according to the “Goldschmidt Classification.” The groups are “lithophile” (rock loving), “Siderophile” (iron loving), “chalcophile” (bronze loving), and “atmophile” (atmosphere loving). The group an element is in is a huge determiner of its fate. Lithophile and chalcophile elements both appear predominantly near the Earth’s surface, in the crust; with the chalcophile elements often combining with sulfur. Siderophile elements largely sank, with almost all of the iron, towards the Earth’s core.

(There is a very slick wikipedia graphic for this, a periodic table colored by Goldschmidt classification…but it’s actually a table rather than an image and I was unsuccessful in getting it copied over here. Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldschmidt_classification )

There are officially 6,118 mineral species known to man today. Minerals must be naturally occurring and forming by natural or geological processes, must be a solid substance (with the exception of native mercury). Water and carbon dioxide are not minerals even when they show up embedded in rocks, but water ice in glaciers is a mineral. A mineral must have a well defined crystal structure. (This ends up excluding things like obsidian which don’t have a crystal structure.) And the chemical composition must be well defined. However, that could include mixtures of similar compounds; sometimes one element will substitute for another of similar size and chemistry to one extent or another.

There are a number of different ways minerals can be classified, based on hardness, color, crystalline structure, cleavage (i.e. which planes it will split on most cleanly), specific gravity (galena, a lead ore, is very dense, for instance–over seven times that of water whereas the typical rock is in the 2.5-3.5 range)…and by chemistry. But this is far from straightforward, since nothing is pure. For instance a mineral whose structure is largely silicon will often have an aluminum atom substituted for the silicon; sometimes this is a regular substitution, making a distinct chemical series.

Minerals fall into a number of different groups; the most common by far is silicates; these are minerals formed by different arrangements of the [SiO4]4- tetrahedron, one silicon atom surrounded by four oxygen atoms.

This shouldn’t be too much of a surprise, after all oxygen and silicon make up most of rocks. There are a simply staggering number of ways to combine these tetrahedra at the corners (where an oxygen atom will end being shared by two tetrahedra); chains, rings, lattices…just for instance:

The most basic of these is quartz, consisting of nothing but silicon and oxygen. Since each oxygen atom is shared by two silicon atoms, the formula ends up being SiO2.

Quartz, when absolutely pure, is clear as glass. Different impurities will give it colors, smoky quartz and amethyst being examples, but there are many more.

And in some cases other elements are interspersed with the tetrahedra, or sometimes the silicon is partially replaced by other elements. This can alter the structure as well as the composition.

The most common of the silicates are a grouping called the feldspars, where Al3+ substitutes for the Si4+, but this creates a charge imbalance that requires other elements added in as cations. You end up with [AlSi3O8] or [Al2Si2O8]2-. In other cases silicates can form in sheets, like mica.

If you haven’t realized this by now, it turns out that silicates are bewilderingly complex. For a deep dive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicate_mineral.

In other groups we have native elements. For example gold, silver, and copper appear in native form as nuggets. There are also platinum nuggets. But also there are diamonds and graphite, both forms of native carbon. Sulfur also appears near volcanic vents. And in many cases the nuggets aren’t pure but are alloys, but still a lump of metal, rather than a “rock.”

Next we have sulfides, compounds of metals and sulfur, famously iron pyrite (fools gold), red cinnabar (a mercury ore). Sometimes tellurium, arsenic, or selenium will substitute for some or even all of the sulfur.

Oxides are metals combined with oxygen, such as hematite (iron), bauxites (aluminum), magnetite (iron again).

Halides are those where a halogen (fluorine, chlorine, bromine, iodine) is the main anion; table salt is the most common example, with chlorine combined with sodium.

Carbonate minerals have a carbonate [CO3]2- group in them. They will react with acids; so field geologists will often have a small vial of acid to test for them. The most common is calcium carbonate…also known as calcite, the main component of limestone. This is weakly soluble in water, leading to the formation of cave systems.

There are sulfates (distinct from sulfides mentioned above) with the sulfate anion, [SO4]2-, combined with something else.

The last common group is the phosphates, with a [PO4]3- unit, combined with something else. These minerals are what our bones and teeth are made out of.

It’s a gigantic mess, honestly; and it gets more and more complicated when it turns out that a mineral can be a mixture of, say, two different sulfates mixed together; the formula ends up including a bracket with two or three different atoms specified because they are intermixed in some proportion.

I have not even scratched the surface of this topic (and those familiar with hardness testing will see the pun). I may not have said anything wrong in this section, but even if we’re that fortunate, I’m sure a real mineralogist would find much to complain about, important things left out, inconsistent “depth” of the dives I took, and so on. I know I said next to nothing about crystal structure and I may try to rectify that some day.

Back to the Historical Narrative

OK so back to the story: By the mid 1800s geology had made huge strides to systematize the variety of rocks and landscapes we see here on Earth. Geologists had even developed the ability to describe what had happened in the past in some arbitrarily picked location. Glaciers, lakes, oceans, desert…all had left telltale signs in the rock. They saw a world of mostly slow change…but with the occasional disasters, local in scope not worldwide.

They had even realized the Earth must be far older than previously thought; the events they could read in the rocks simply could not have happened fast enough to fit within a few thousand years of time.

Impressive work. There were obviously a lot of unsolved problems (like how it could be possible that former sea floor bottom ended up high in the Alps), but still a lot learned.

Physics and astronomy (closely associated with each other) were pretty much the most successful and advanced branches of scientific knowledge. Were astronomers and physicists at least somewhat impressed with what geologists had come up with?

Perhaps but in one key respect the answer was probably more like, “You gotta be shitting me.”

You see the physicists and astronomers of the mid 1800s couldn’t possibly see how the Sun could be old; if the Sun weren’t old neither could the Earth be old. There was simply no way to power the sun for those lengths of time. However the geologic evidence was simply overwhelming.

Beyond suspecting that geologists were smoking something that was distinctly not a mineral (and vice versa from the geologists’ point of view), there was little that could be done. Tons of hard evidence (i.e., rocks) vs. quite well established kinetics and thermal physics. Neither of them could be shaken.

So what was the cause of this disconnect?

In 1862, William Thomson (1st Baron Kelvin…after whom the Kelvin scale is named), published calculations that assumed the Earth had started out completely molten, then computed how long it would take to cool to what we see today. His answer was 20 – 400 million years. OK, that seems a bit low to geologists, but not horrifically so. (He did not account for convection inside the Earth, which would increase the number…nor for other factors he simply couldn’t have imagined, which I’ll get to.)

The big problem was that he also computed how long the sun could have been shining at its present brightness, if it derived all of its energy from gravitational contraction. And that answer was 20 million years. It agreed with his Earth calculation at the low end so that made sense–Thomson probably reasoned that the Earth therefore had to be 20 million years old, but geologists (and biologists) simply couldn’t believe the Earth was that young. Other physicists (Hermann von Helmholz and Simon Newcomb) got similar values of 22 and 18 million years, respectively.

Other possible sources of solar energy were combustion and impacting comets and asteroids. The first was ridiculous. If the entire Sun, huge as it is, were a burning pile of coal, it would be gone within a couple of thousand years at the rate it would have to be burning to be as luminous as it is. This is not even long enough to carry us from the Great Pyramid to Julius Caesar, much less to today. Asteroid impacts sounds more promising, until one realizes there’d have to be so many of them that surely Earth would be catching a lot more of them than we actually are getting. And it was only good enough for a few hundred thousand years. The other flaw was that the sun would be increasing with size as more matter accumulated in it, and that imposed a strict time limit too…after a certain amount of time the Sun would simply be bigger than we see it.

Another tack taken by physicists and astronomers was to use the moon. George H. Darwin (son of Charles “the” Darwin) was an astronomer, figured out that if the Earth and Moon had split apart while still molten, tidal forces would have created our current situation with a 24 hour day after 56 million years. This may not look like it to you, but given the sorts of approximations that both Darwin’s and Kelvin’s calculations enailed, that’s actually close enough to Kelvin’s number that it appeared that both of them were likely on the right track. (When two totally different methods of computation give similar answers, that’s a powerful argument that the actual answer is pretty close to the ones we computed.) Yet another tack, computing how long it took for the oceans to accumulate the salt they contain, based on erosion of rocks, gave an answer of 80-100 million years for the age of the oceans.

When you see an apparent contradiction like this, something is missing from your mental picture. Or perhaps you have a wrong premise. Because an actual contradiction cannot exist.

And, as it turned out, one mineral, when it was discovered, turned out to be the beginning of the path not just to resolving this, but fulfilling another thing that was on the geologists’ wish list–one they never thought they’d get. Like the kid who doesn’t bother asking Santa for the really expensive toy for Christmas…but Santa read his mind and he gets it.

The mineral is an oxide, one called pitchblende. This was first described in 1772 by F. E. Brueckmann. In 1789 M. Klaproth worked with this stuff and discovered the element uranium.

[Uranium oxide has been in mosaic glass from Roman times; clearly they’d found some of the ore and experimented to see what it would do to color glass. However, we don’t have written records of the Romans recognizing it as a distinct material.]

Here’s some nice big crystals of pitchblende:

Uranium was nothing special, just another of a bunch of metals being discovered around this time. Along with such other favorites as cobalt, nickel, manganese, tungsten, niobium, tantalum, and chromium. Curiously, pitchblende also includes some lead, without fail. No such thing as “pure” uranium oxide pitchblende. That seems kind of weird because lead and uranium are chemically quite different.

Flawed analyses led to uranium’s atomic weight being calculated at 156 or so; later on the mistake was realized and the atomic weight was corrected to 238, far above anything else known at the time. Kind of interesting to geeks; no one else cared.

In 1895 this changed. And so did the world.

Henri Becquerel was trying to see if uranium salts, known to fluoresce in visible light, also fluoresced in X ray frequences. (X Rays had been discovered the year before by Röntgen.) [As a reminder, fluorescent things will glow in bright colors for a while after being exposed to ultraviolet light. This can actually be used to identify some minerals. Becquerel wanted to see if they also emitted X-rays alongside the visible light.] He’d expose the compounds to sunlight, then set them next to wrapped photographic plates. If the plates fogged, he would conclude the uranium compounds were giving off X-rays after being “charged” by the sun. Then he had days of cloudy weather, so he put the uranium salts and wrapped plates in a drawer while he awaited sunny days. Ultimately he decided, what the Hell, and developed the plates without exposing the uranium salts to sunlight, and found that they had fogged anyway. Well this was new!! Further experimentation established that uranium emitted strong radiation, all the time, no matter what.

Even more experimentation established that the uranium was turning into lead as it did this. Which is why pitchblende always has some lead in it, even though lead is very different from uranium, chemically.

This led to our current picture of the structure of an atom–which up to then had not been proven to exist. (The final piece of proof was supplied by Albert Einstein in 1905, the Annus Mirabilis)

That is a very long story. Detailed here (9 – End of Classical Physics (Rays & Radiation)):

And here (13 – Ernest Rutherford):

And here (17 – Nuclear Physics Finds a Hammer):

And here (19 – Antimatter):

And here (20 – The Little Neutral One (Neutrinos)):

One key thing to note is that this new “radioactivity” was extremely energy intense, far more so than burning coal, and now we had a hints of a power source that would allow the sun to shine for hundreds of millions–even BILLIONS–of years.

And this is indeed the case, as described here (22 – Powering Stars):

And the world was never the same, because this ultimately led to nuclear weapons.

But for our purposes here, the main effect is that now there was no more contradiction about how old the Earth might be. The Sun could indeed be old enough for an old Earth.

And Now We Can Measure It

Surprise! We also now had a way to measure the age of some rocks, to put actual numbers on things.

To explain this adequately (given the fact that there are charlatans out there who try to fling mud on this, and some of you believe them), I’m going to try to do a Science For Senators review of radioactivity and nuclei. It’s a bit densely packed since I’m not telling a story here. (The story was in all those posts above.)

Matter is made up of atoms, very roughly a hundred picometers (a picometer is a trillionth of a meter) across. Most of this volume is taken up by electrons (which have a negative electrical charge) that are bound to a positively charged nucleus (plural, nuclei). The nucleus contains almost all of the mass of the atom yet occupies a space only a few femtometers (a femtometer is a quadrillionth of a meter across); roughly 1/10,000th the diameter of the atom as a whole.

The nucleus, in turn consists of protons–positively charged particles–and neutrons–neutrally charged particles. Other than the charge, these two particles are very similar to each other–the neutron is just a bit more massive–and they’re collectively referred to as nucleons. (Neutrons are blue, protons red in the diagram below…but they don’t actually have color and they’re not actually shaped like little hard spheres, so the diagram is notional.)

As it turns out the number of protons in a nucleus (the “atomic number”) determines what chemical element it is. One proton: hydrogen. Six: carbon. Eight: oxygen. Twenty-six: iron. Forty-seven: silver. Seventy-nine: gold. Eighty-two: lead. Ninety-two: uranium. (Plus all of the other numbers in between of course.) In order to balance out, an atom will have the same number of electrons as protons, at least until it starts sharing or even giving or taking electrons with, to, or from other atoms–which is what chemistry is all about.

The number of neutrons, on the other hand can vary, even within an element. Just for instance, most uranium nuclei have 146 neutrons in them, but some have only 143. This has very little effect on the chemistry, but it is possible to very painstakingly sort these out. The two different types of uranium are described by their mass numbers, the total number of nucleons. 92+146=238, and 92+143=235; uranium-238 and uranium-235, respectively. These different-weight forms of the same element are called isotopes.

As it turns out radioactivity, when it happens, happens to nuclei. There are two main kinds of radioactivity that matter for our purposes here, alpha decay and beta decay.

Alpha decay is when a large nucleus basically pukes up a helium nucleus (containing two protons and two neutrons–mass number of 4). Since the nucleus gives up two protons in doing this, it changes to another element; this should therefore happen five times as uranium turns to lead, changing the atomic number from 92 to 82. Except that that’s not actually right; it turns out to be eight times. That’s because uranium-238 is becoming lead-206; that’s a difference of 32 mass units and eight alpha decays does that.

The reason the atomic number changes by ten rather than 16 (two per alpha decay) is that there is also beta decay. In this kind of radioactive decay, a neutron turns into a proton, ejecting an electron (which flies off into the distance, so you can basically forget about it) and a neutrino (which flies off away forever, so you can really forget about it). The effect is to leave the mass number unchanged…but it increases the atomic number by one (we have one more proton than we used to). To make up the discrepancy noted above, uranium, in turning to lead, must undergo six beta decays.

Technically speaking what I just described is negative beta decay, because it spits out a negatively charged particle. The reason why one might to be anal about this is that there’s actually a different kind of beta decay that may come into play, though…and that’s positive beta decay, where a proton spits out an anti-electron (“positron”–yes, this is antimatter) and turns into a neutron (the exact opposite change from the first kind of beta decay). This causes the nucleus to go down one in atomic number, again without changing the mass number.

Uranium and thorium (atomic number 90) undergo alpha decay, as do a lot of the things they turn into on the way to becoming lead (as do many of the intermediate elements in between and on the way). A lot of the intermediate products undergo beta decay. That’s all stuff at the high end of the periodic table, though.

It turns out that a lot of much lighter elements…ones we thing of as stable…are at least partially made up of isotopes that do one or the other form of beta decay (there are dozens of examples). Even potassium has a long-lived isotope (potassium-40 or 40K) that decays, in fact it can decay two different ways: negative beta decay or “electron capture” where a proton absorbs an electron. The first turns it into calcium-40, the second turns it into argon-40.

Our atmosphere is about one percent argon, and that argon is almost all argon-40. The sun’s argon–which presumably came from the nebula that condensed to form the solar system–is almost all argon-36, which leads to the conclusion that none of the Earth’s original argon is still around, and all of the argon in the atmosphere is actually from the decay of potassium-40.

There is just one thing I haven’t mentioned yet. Alpha and beta decay occur at constant rates. The rate is different for each nucleus, but constant for that nucleus. (All sorts of attempts have been made in laboratories to change the rate…with one oddball exception, absolutely nothing happened.) It’s a proportional thing; over some period of time, half of the atoms of some radioactive isotope will decay. You’re then left with a sample half the size of your original sample…and half of that will be gone after you wait the same period of time again. And so on. This period of time is known as the half life, because half of the atoms are gone after that period of time.

Of the things I’ve touched on, here are their half lives: Uranium-235: 703.8 million years. Potassium-40: 1251 million years. Uranium-238: 4458 million years. And Thorium-232: 14,050 million years.

And now maybe you can see how this might be useful to geologists. Find a rock with some uranium, thorium, or potassium in it. (Potassium most likely; it’s common compared to the others.) Then determine how much “daughter” product is in the rock. It helps if the daughter product is such it wouldn’t have been in the rock when it solidified. E.g., a zircon crystal, which might pick up uranium impurities as it crystalizes, but will positively reject lead atoms. Any lead in the zircon crystal can only have come from uranium decay. Count atoms (yes, you might have to literally count atoms) to determine how much daughter product there is, versus parent isotope. Figure out how much decay has taken place and compare to the half life.

You now know the age of the crystal. Not the relative age, the absolute age, of the crystal.

But there are a lot of details with this (including the fact that dating sedimentary rock is dicey), and I will cover some of them next time. These details, when fully considered only serve to make these methods rock solid.

Notice

I have a complex project coming up IRL, and I absolutely have to reallocate my “spare” time. This will mean less laughing at online flerfs, but it also means science posts will be infrequent and/or unpredictable.

Health Friday 3.7.2025 Open Thread: The COVID-19 Information File, Part Two: The Virus Itself and the “Vaccines”

The above image of a vintage Rolodex is courtesy of CSA Images via Google Images.

Health Friday is a series devoted to information about Big Pharma, vaccines, general health, and associated topics. As today’s post speaks to the disaster of COVID-19 (the COVID-19 virus itself, and the COVID-19 “vaccines”), Yours Truly dedicates it to the memory of all persons, of whatever age or location, who have passed away from the negative effects of these lab-created bioweapons.

There are Important Wolf Moon Notifications; the Rules of our late, good Wheatie; and, certain caveats from Yours Truly, of which readers should be aware. They are linked here.

Today’s post is an “expanded edition” of the COVID-19 “Vaccines” Information File, Part One, found here: https://www.theqtree.com/2024/11/01/health-friday-open-thread-11-1-2024-the-covid-19-vaccines-information-file-part-one/. There are more items in the evolving information base about the lab-created bioweapons of the COVID-19 virus itself, and on the COVID-19 “vaccines.”

And now, Part Two of the COVID-19 Information File:

BOOKS: One: Cancer Care, Second Edition. By Dr. Paul E. Marik, MD, FCCM, FCCP (Dr. Marik is a co-founder of the FLCCC Alliance). This book is found on https://www.amazon.com/.

Two: The Doctors Book of Home Remedies, by the editors of Prevention Health Magazine Books, 1990 edition. This book is available online as used copies.

WEBSITE NAME CHANGES:

The FLCCC Alliance (formerly https://covid19criticalcare.com, also called FLCCC Alliance) is now Independent Medical Alliance: https://imahealth.org/.

Dr. Peter McCullough’s website (formerly https://petermcculloughmd@substack.com) is now https://www.thefocalpoints.com/.

COVID-19 VIRUS and COVID-19 “VACCINES” DETOX / MITIGATION PROTOCOLS:

https://imahealth.org/ (Independent Medical Alliance, formerly FLCCC); https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/ (AFLDS); https://www.mercola.com/ (Dr. Joseph Mercola, MD; must sign up to access); https://www.americaoutloud.com/ (Dr. Peter McCullough, MD’s, Wellness Company site.) Note: this is not an exhaustive list, and does not include herbal medicine, naturopathic medicine, homeopathic medicine, Ayurvedic medicine, Traditional Chinese Medicine, or other allopathic / osteopathic websites.

THE YALE “LISTEN” STUDY PAPER:

Yours Truly has written on the main discussion thread several times regarding this groundbreaking paper (the “Iwasaki et al. paper”) about COVID-19 “vaccine”-induced injuries presenting as long as 709 days after “vaccination.” Here is Steve Kirsch’s take on the paper: https://kirschsubstack.com/p/covid-vaccine-injury-study-published, “COVID vaccine injury study published on preprint server because the mainstream medical journals refused to publish it”, 19 February 2025. HOWEVER, Yours Truly has found that the original preprint paper has already been reissued in a “new” preprint version. The original version is found here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v1, “Immunological and Antigenic Signatures Associated with Chronic Illnesses after COVID-19 Vaccination”, Akiko Iwasaki, et al., dated 18 February 2025. The “new” preprint version is found here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2025.02.18.25322379v2.full, same title, Akiko Iwasaki, et al., dated 25 February 2025. Meanwhile, Dr. Pierre Kory, MD, has written a blog post regarding how the LISTEN study may be used as legal support for persons with COVID-19 “vaccine”-induced issues in lawsuits: https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/p/new-study-provides-legal-support, “New Study Provides Legal Support For The Vaccine Injured”, 21 February 2025. Dr. Kory has coined the term, “Post Covid Vaccination Syndrome”, or PVS, to describe the conditions and issues that COVID-19 “vaccinated” patients in his practice present.

MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THE COVID-19 “VACCINES” INCREASE THE IgG4 “TOLERATE BUT NEVER CLEAR” IMMUNE SYSTEM CELLS IN THE “VACCINATED” PERSON’S BODY:

Dr. Jessica Rose, PhD, (https://jessicar.substack.com/) has just published a paper in the Public Health Policy Journal on her new research. The paper is found here: https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/breakthrough-infection-signal-in-vaers-corroborates-igg4-increased-susceptibility-to-sars-cov-2/, 1 March 2025. The paper has the same title as the website URL. The paper has been reviewed by Dr. James Lyons-Weiler, PhD here: https://publichealthpolicyjournal.com/clear-dose-response-signal-of-risk-of-exposure-to-covid-19-mrna-found-in-vaers-data/, 1 March 2025. The review has the same title as the website URL. Below is are two screenshots from Dr. Rose’s article. (NOTE: Dr. Rose uses the term “BTI” to mean “Breakthrough SARS-CoV-2 Infections.”)

And, from Dr. Lyons-Weiler’s review of Dr. Rose’s article:

A MIDWESTERN DOCTOR’S TAKE ON WHY THE FDA RUSHED THE COVID-19 “VACCINES” THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET THEM AUTHORIZED FOR USE:

A Midwestern Doctor (https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/) has written an article regarding the “Why” behind the actions of the FDA: https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-did-the-fda-greenlight-the-covid. “Why Did The FDA Greenlight The COVID Vaccines?”, 2 March 2025.

SASHA LATYPOVA ON WHY THE COVID-19 “VACCINES” ARE REALLY GENE THERAPY SHOTS:

Ms. Latypova wrote the following article in response to a reader’s question: https://sashalatypova.substack.com/p/are-covid-vaccines-gene-therapies, 28 February 2025. Below are several screenshots from this article:

The first screenshot is Ms. Latypova’s statement:

The following screenshot is from the 2015 FDA guidance document on gene therapies:

The following screenshots are via FOIA information that Judicial Watch sued the FDA for and won regarding the Pfizer-BioNTech “flagship” modRNA COVID-19 “vaccine”, BNT162b2:

COVID-19 BTI (Bioweapon Toxin Injections, aka the “vaccines”) AND ORAL COVID-19 “VACCINE” NEWS:

One: The European Commission has just approved the use of the self-amplifying RNA (saRNA) COVID-19 “vaccine”, KOSTAIVE, for use in the European Union / Scandinavia. Please see: https://defender.substack.com/p/europe-approval-self-amplifying-covid-mrna-vaccine-no-long-term-safety-data, “Inhumane, Reckless: Critics Weigh in on Europe’s Approval of Self-Amplifying COVID mRNA Vaccines”, by Suzanne Burdick, PhD, 23 February 2025. KOSTAIVE is the brand name of the injectable called ARCT-154, by Arcturus Therapeutics. This product was approved in Japan in November 2024 and is in use there. Below are two screenshots from the Defender article:

Please re-read the sentence above from Dr. Jablonowski regarding how an saRNA COVID-19 “vaccine” is “like being vaccinated every day for the rest of your life.” (Italics mine)

The Epar “package insert” information on KOSTAIVE is found here: https://www.ema.europra.eu/en/documents/product-information/kostaive-epar-product-information_en.pdf. Below are two screenshots from this document;

Note the last sentence — a total lie.

The MSDS Safety Sheet for the lipid nanoparticle ATX-126 is here: https://www.dcchemicals.com/msds/MSDS_DC57046.html. Below is a screenshot from this document:

AND NOW, REGARDING THE COVID-19 VIRUS ITSELF:

One of the blogs that Yours Truly reads regularly is that of Walter M Chesnut: https://wmcresearch.substack.com/. Mr. Chesnut has been performing solid research into the mechanisms of the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) virus itself for over 3 years. While it is not known for absolute certainty the actual ingredients of the lab-created bioweapon called the SARS-CoV-2 virus, Mr. Chesnut continues to find possible pieces of this puzzle. Here are two recent such blog articles of his. The first: https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/turbocancers-a-secondary-manifestation, “Turbocancers: A Secondary Manifestation of the Extracellular Matrix (ECM)?” The second: https://wmcresearch.substack.com/p/the-spike-protein-and-iib3-understanding, “The Spike Protein and [alpha]IIb[beta]3: Understanding the Fibrous Clots from an Integrin-Mediated Perspective”, 24 February 2025. A screenshot from this article is below:

The point here is that the COVID-19 virus itself it NOT “just another virus.” It is a lab-created bioweapon that, in and of itself, can damage the infected person’s body. Combined with the “enhanced” ingredients found in the COVID-19 “vaccines” (lipid nanoparticles and N1-methylpseudouridine), this “foundational” bioweapon virus becomes extremely dangerous or even deadly. (NOTE: Yours Truly apologizes for the [alpha] and the [beta] in the title of the Chesnut article cited above. She is still in the WP “learning curve.”)

FLASH! UPDATE 6 MARCH: REGARDING THE “DISCOVERY” OF THE “NEW” BAT CORONAVIRUS, HKU5-CoV-2:

One: Dr. Peter McCullough discusses the situation here: https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/new-wuhan-coronavirus-2025-measles, 6 March 2025. A screenshot from the post is below:

This “new” bat coronavirus was supposedly “discovered” by the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The first question this raises is: How many OTHER bat (or other) coronaviruses are in the “storage vaults” of the WIV to be “discovered” at some point? There is speculation all over the internet regarding HKU5-CoV-2 and if / when, it could infect humans. This “new” coronavirus apparently can use the same types of entry methods into the human body that SARS-CoV-2 and MERS do.

Two: But wait, there’s more! Another question is raised: What did / does, Pfizer-BioNTech know about HKU5-CoV-2? Because this company has been Phase 1 testing an “experimental” modRNA “Pandemic Influenza vaccine” since December 2023. The study is NCT06179446 (https://clinicaltrials.gov/study/NCT06179446), begun on 13 December 2023 and scheduled to finish the Phase 1 clinical trial on 26 August 2025. This “experimental” modRNA prophylactic “Pandemic Influenza vaccine” is called pdmFlu. The Pfizer-BioNTech product identifier number is PF-07985819, and the Study Identifier number is C5561001. According to the “Researcher View” of the Clinical Trials entry, as many as eight different formulas and/or dosage amounts will be given to the study participants (there are 160 registered study participants.) NCT06179446 has two separate “control groups”: One “control group” will receive injections of a “licensed influenza vaccine”; the other “control group” will receive a placebo.

The Consent Form issued by Pfizer-BioNTech that the study participants in C5561001 must sign is here: https://www.pfizerclinicaltrials.com/sites/default/files/2023-12/C5661001_Main_ICDv21NOV2023.pdf.

WHAT DID / DOES, PFIZER-BIONTECH KNOW ABOUT HKU5-CoV-2?

Three: And, by the way — RALPH BARIC has been experimenting with HKU5-CoV-2 SINCE AT LEAST 2014, funded by the NIH. One of his papers is here: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.articles/PMC7022341/, “Trypsin Treatment Unlocks Barrier for Zoonotic Bat Coronavirus Infection”, Ralph S. Baric, et al., 14 February 2020.

WHAT DOES / DID RALPH BARIC KNOW ABOUT HKU5-CoV-2?

PAGING ROBERT F. KENNEDY, JR.

THERE. MUST. BE. JUSTICE.

Peace, Good Energy, Respect: PAVACA

American Stories: When in the Course of human events – Part 8

Stories about the signing of the Declaration of Independence and the Revolutionary War period would not be complete without a discussion about one of greatest speeches ever made in a public setting by an American colonist. Yet, it was made by a leader who refused to sign the Declaration as he was fearful that signing it or the Constitution would lead to a central government that overrode the rights of the states.

His fears were eventually realized.

Give Me Liberty, or Give Me Death!

Patrick Henry will be forever known as a major influencer and leader for independence. He was born in 1736 and raised in Hanover County, VA. His father was a farmer who was college educated in Scotland. Patrick was educated primarily by his father at home. He tried and failed to be a store keeper and a planter. He finally found employment as a tavern keeper for his father-in-law and began to study law. He progressed to being able to open his own law practice in 1760.

His first major legal case was called Parson’s Cause in 1763. It became a major issue that helped fuel the patriot cause. We might consider it trivial today, but back then it was a big deal. The ministers of the Church of England in VA were paid their annual salaries with tobacco. There had been a drought in the 1750’s that had reduced the crop yields and caused a shortage that drove up prices. So the VA legislature passed a bill that set the salary at two pennies per pound of tobacco rather than at the drought affected current price of six pennies per pound. The clergy appealed to King George III who overturned the law and encouraged the clergy to sue for damages.

Patrick Henry was a somewhat unknown attorney representing Virginia. He delivered a passionate speech and answer to the King’s actions claiming Crown overreach. He left little doubt about his and the state’s position with, “that a King by annulling or disallowing acts of so salutary a nature, from being Father of his people degenerated into a Tyrant, and forfeits all rights to his subjects’ obedience.”

It was clear at this point that Patrick Henry had found his voice and his calling as a patriot. His contemporaries said he spoke with the authority of the Great Awakening pastors from previous decades.

When the Stamp Act was passed on to the colonies that forced them to pay a tax on every piece of paper they used, the colonists reacted bitterly. Henry led the VA legislature into a series of “resolves” that rejected taxation without representation. This led to one of the most famous speeches in American history in March 1775 at St. John’s Church in Richmond in the Second Virginia Convention. The Virginia House was undecided on whether to organize for military action against the encroaching British army. Henry argued in favor of mobilizing for war.

Henry rarely, if ever, utilized notes for his speeches. His first biographer, William Wirt, worked from oral histories to reconstruct a text of Henry’s most memorable and perhaps most influential speech. Below is a link to Wirt’s work and the speech.

https://www.historicstjohnschurch.org/the-speech/

Consider some of the excerpts from the speech below;

“They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house?

“Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot?

“Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.

“Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave.

“It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms!

“Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”

Score one for truth, again. The liars and deceivers would have Americans today to believe there was no love of the Christian God or of country, that the founders were deists and atheists. They would have you believe our founders and their fellow citizens were the real oppressors, just looking out for their own gain. Your only valid response as a patriot to these lies and attacks are to confront and conquer with truth and facts like those provided here.

Henry was a follower of Christ and a man of faith. A variety of sources confirm the following incidents from his life.

He once said to a neighbor:

“This book [the Bible] is worth all the books that ever were printed, and it has been my misfortune that I never found time to read it with the proper attention and feeling till lately. I trust in the mercy of heaven that it is not too late.”

In a letter to his daughter dated August 20, 1796, he wrote:

“Amongst other strange things said of me, I hear it is said by the deists that I am one of their number; and indeed, that some good people think I am no Christian. This thought gives me much more pain than the appellation of Tory; because I think religion of infinitely higher importance than politics; and I find much cause to reproach myself that I have lived so long, and have given no decided and public proofs of my being a Christian. But, indeed, my dear child, this is a character which I prize far above all this world has, or can boast.”

On his deathbed, Patrick Henry was reported to have said:

“Doctor, I wish you to observe how real and beneficial the religion of Christ is to a man about to die…. I am … much consoled by reflecting that the religion of Christ has, from its first appearance in the world, been attacked in vain by all the wits, philosophers, and wise ones, aided by every power of man, and its triumphs have been complete.”

On November 20, 1798, in his Last Will and Testament, Patrick Henry wrote:

“This is all the inheritance I give to my dear family. The religion of Christ will give them one which will make them rich indeed.”

He died from stomach cancer at the age of 63.

We should always remember that our founders were men who believed that liberty was a precious right that flowed from God. In Patrick Henry’s life God was preeminent, personal and the provider of salvation through His Son, Jesus Christ.

Time to discuss more signers.

Stephen Hopkins

Born in the Providence, RI area in 1707, Hopkins was from a wealthy, prestigious Quaker family. His great grandfather was among the first settlers in the Providence area and his grandfather was an influential politician in the state. His parents were William and Ruth Hopkins with his mother having descended from the famous Whipple family.

He was educated at home into the sciences, mathematics, and literature. He became a surveyor and astronomer. He married Sarah Scott in 1726 and the couple had seven children together, five of whom survived to adulthood. She passed away at age 46 in 1753. He became a justice of the peace at 23 years old and not long after, a justice in the Court of Common Pleas. He was also part owner of a local iron foundry as well as a successful merchant. He was named to the state Supreme Court in 1747 and was Chief Justice for a handful of years before being elected Governor in 1755. He served in that role for 9 of the next 15 years.

He and fellow Declaration signer Samuel Ward were at political odds with one another for years in Rhode Island. Ward was a backer of hard currency while Hopkins supported paper. Hopkins became a major leader of the independence movement in the state when his pamphlet The Rights of Colonies Examined was published and distributed. It addressed taxation and Parliament actions. A link to this is below.

To summarize the essence of its content in one sentence from this publication, Hopkins said, “Liberty is the greatest blessing that men enjoy, and slavery the heaviest curse that human nature is capable of;”. Historian Thomas Bicknell called it “the most remarkable document that was issued during the period preceding the War of the Revolution.” It established Hopkins as one of the leaders of public opinion throughout the colonies.

He and his political adversary, Samuel Ward, were selected to represent RI at the Continental Congress. At age 68 he was the oldest there. Only he and Benjamin Franklin had attended the Albany Congress twenty years before. When it came time to sign the Declaration, he had to hold his right writing hand steady with his left hand as he suffered from palsy. He stated, “My hand trembles, but my heart does not.”

John Adams had this to say about Hopkins,

Governor Hopkins of Rhode Island, above seventy Years of Age kept us all alive. Upon Business his Experience and judgment were very Useful. But when the Business of the Evening was over, he kept Us in Conversation till Eleven and sometimes twelve O Clock. His Custom was to drink nothing all day nor till Eight O Clock, in the Evening, and then his Beveredge was Jamaica Spirit and Water. It gave him Wit, Humour, Anecdotes, Science and Learning. He had read Greek, Roman and British History: and was familiar with English Poetry particularly Pope, Tompson and Milton. And the flow of his Soul made all his reading our own, and seemed to bring to recollection in all of Us all We had ever read. I could neither eat nor drink in those days. The other Gentlemen were very temperate. Hopkins never drank to excess, but all he drank was immediately not only converted into Wit, Sense, Knowledge and good humour, but inspired Us all with similar qualities.

His knowledge and experience in shipping made him invaluable to the naval committee during the war. He was instrumental in drafting naval legislation including rules and regulations for the Continental Navy. His younger brother, Esek, became the commander in chief of the first continental naval squadron in the Revolutionary War. Unfortunately, things did not go well for him in the role due to a series of missteps and misperceptions about his leadership that led to polarization within the Congress and military over his leadership. Despite having the support of John Adams he was forced to resign in January 1778. John Paul Jones who reported to him assumed the role. However, Jones continued to successfully utilize a defensive method Esek Hopkins had used against the overwhelming force of the British Navy.

Poor health led Stephen Hopkins to resign from the Continental Congress later in 1776 to return home where he continued to serve in the state legislature until retiring in 1779. During the years that followed he released a few slaves and provided for others to the point of listing in his will. In some cases he felt it unwise to fully release as he determined they were ill prepared for what would be entailed in doing so.

He passed away at age 78 in 1785. Prior to his death he had helped establish the predecessor school to Brown University having served as the school’s first chancellor from 1764 until the year of his death. He survived his second wife, Anne Smith Hopkins, who had passed away in 1782.

As is the case with many of the Declaration signers, I have only briefly touched on the accomplishments, involvements and personal interconnections of this great Patriot. We all owe him a debt of gratitude even today. The following is inscribed on the west side of the memorial at his burial site,

“Sacred to the memory of the illustrious Stephen Hopkins, of revolutionary fame, attested by his signature to the Declaration of our National Independence, Great in Council from sagacity of mind; Magnanimous in sentiment, firm in purpose, and good, as great, from benevolence of heart; He stood in the front rank of statesmen and patriots. Self-educated, yet among the most learned of men; His vast treasury of useful knowledge, his great retentive and reflective powers, combined with his social nature, made him the most interesting of companions in private life.”

Button Gwinnett

We go from a polished and dignified uniter with great knowledge and wisdom to a man who was a lightning rod for controversy. Button Gwinnett was born in Down Hatherley, England in the 1732-35 range. He was the third of seven children of the Welsh minister, Rev. Samuel Gwinnett and wife, Anne. He was raised and educated there, being baptized at St. Catherine’s Church. He later married Ann Bourne in 1757, the daughter of a greengrocer (seller of vegetables and fruits), an occupation he had apprenticed in previously. They had three daughters together before deciding to leave for America in 1762. They arrived in Newfoundland and soon chose to go to Jamaica. He was not successful as a merchant there so they left for Savannah, GA where he also failed. So he purchased St. Catherine’s Island and a large group of slaves on credit to try to be a planter, an occupation he never really succeeded at as well. However, the associations led him into local politics and the Provincial Assembly.

It was not until 1775 that he became active in the independence movement in the area. St. John’s Parish where his plantation was located threatened to secede from the colony as they valued independence from the Crown versus so many other loyalists in the state. His political rival in the Assembly was Lachlan McIntosh and his biggest supporter was future Declaration signer Lyman Hall. Gwinnett was later appointed to be a delegate to the Continental Congress and subsequently voted to adopt the Declaration of Independence and signed it. He became a candidate to become a brigadier general to lead the First Regiment of the Continental Army, but lost out to his rival Lachlan McIntosh. The decision left him bitter and angry.

He return to the GA Assembly and helped write the state’s Constitution. He soon became Speaker of the Assembly. This led to further tensions between McIntosh as he sought to undermine his rival. When Gwinnett succeeded in having the Assembly approve a measure to attack the British in eastern FL to protect the state’s southern border, it all came to a head. From georgiaencyclopedia.org;

Disappointed in his military ambitions, Gwinnett continued to lead the opposition to the Christ Church Parish coalition, and when his followers gained control of Georgia’s Provincial Congress, they succeeded in electing him Speaker. He played a key role in the passage of the Constitution of 1777 and began to purge the military of officers whom he and his followers deemed less than zealous in their enthusiasm for the Whig cause. This brought him into conflict with Lachlan McIntosh. After the death of Georgia’s president and commander-in-chief, Archibald Bulloch, in February 1777, the Council of Safety appointed Gwinnett to succeed him.

Gwinnett proposed a military foray into British East Florida, a defensive measure that he argued would secure Georgia’s southern border. McIntosh and his brother George (who had opposed Gwinnett’s election as president and subsequently had been arrested for treason) condemned the scheme as politically motivated. The expedition failed, and though he was not elected governor when the new legislature met in the spring of 1777, Gwinnett was exonerated of any misconduct in carrying out the campaign.

McIntosh was furious. He publicly denounced Gwinnett in the harshest terms, and Gwinnett challenged him to a duel. Though each man shot the other, only Gwinnett’s wound proved fatal. He died on May 19, 1777, and was buried in Savannah’s Colonial Park Cemetery, though the exact location of his grave is unknown. Gwinnett County was named for him when it was established in 1818.

Gwinnett left behind a wife and several young children with his death. Gwinnett’s long held hatred of a fellow patriot had led his demise. McIntosh recovered from his wounds from the duel and went on to serve with distinction under George Washington including leading units at Valley Forge. He was later captured in the British siege of Charleston and was a prisoner for two years before an exchange one year before the end of the war. He returned home to his destroyed plantation and lived in relative poverty the rest of his life although he remained active in the affairs of the state until his death in 1806.

Still yet, we remember Gwinnett as a charismatic leader of the Independence movement and his place in history as a backer and signer of our Declaration of Independence. It is notable that both Gwinnett and McIntosh have counties named after them and their families within the state of GA.

Robert Treat Paine

Robert Treat Paine was born in 1731 in Boston, MA. His father was a minister, Rev. Thomas Paine in the Congregational church in Weymouth and mother, Eunice Treat Paine, was daughter of Rev. Samuel Treat. Both fathers of the couple were educated at Harvard College. Robert was the fourth of five children and expected by the family to also become a minister. Both families had storied histories going back to England. In 1730 Robert’s father left full time ministry to also become a merchant. He was educated at Boston Latin School and went on to graduate from Harvard College at the age of 18. For a couple of years he taught school before going to law school in 1755. He briefly served as a chaplain during the French and Indian War.

After completing law school he eventually opened a practice in Taunton, MA in 1761. He went on to be chosen as a delegate to the provincial convention in Boston 1767. He and Samuel Quincy, who was the MA Solicitor General prosecuted the British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre. John Adams represented the soldiers and was credited with winning the overall cases in their favor. Up to this point Paine believed that the colonists and the British could work out their differences and compromise on the contentious issues. These events removed that consideration from his mind and he became a sold out patriot seeking independence.

Paine was a devout Christian and Congregationalist, although he later followed his church, First Church in Boston, into Unitarianism when they changed. He married Sally Cobb in 1770 and they had eight children together, a number of which went on to graduate from Harvard College.

Paine served two years in the MA General Court, two years in the Provincial Congress and from 1774-76 in the Continental Congress representing the state. He signed the final appeal to the King in the Olive Branch Petition in 1775. He then framed the rules of debate and helped secure gunpowder the following year after signing the Declaration. Leading up to the signing, he was noted for his objections during debates and proceedings. Per revolutionary-war.net, fellow delegate Benjamin Rush called him “The Objection Maker” in reference to his objections to the proposals of others; “He seldom proposed anything, but opposed nearly every measure that was proposed by other people…”

Sounds like he could be a pain in the azz to me. 😂

After the signing and follow up work in the Congress he returned to MA and served in the state legislature before becoming its Attorney General after helping draft the state’s Constitution. At one point he prosecuted participants for treason in Shay’s Rebellion. This subject will be briefly discussed in a future part.

Paine finished his career as a justice on the state’s Supreme Court, serving 14 years. He passed away in 1814 with his wife passing away two years later. We are thankful for the contributions of this devoted Patriot who contributed greatly to the law and fabric of America.

Conclusion

A uniter, a divider and an objector walk into a bar…

And so it was within the congressional hall with three of the signers of the Declaration of Independence. Three very different men with the common purpose of giving freedom and liberty to all Americans.