“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Trump’s Imminent Reelection Already Causing Chinese Political Collapse and Supernova to Eject CCP and Anti-CCP Elements of Influence Into American Social Media
I hate to say this, but it needs to be said.
You are not going to have a choice. Nothing can stop what’s coming.
Twitter sticks its head in the SAND, while the EDGE OF SCIENCE moves elsewhere.
If you don’t have a Gab account, get one now, and I mean in the next 24 hours. Things are happening so fast, you will MISS THE BIRTH.
CCP is jumping onto Twitter, and the Chinese opposition is jumping onto GAB.
Now – the politics here are going to be INTENSE – and intensely complicated. Just like when the Soviet Union and the Iron Curtain “fell”, a LOT of it “fell on us”. That is exactly what will happen here. The problem is that China’s version of “perestroika” will have far more impact on the United States – not all of it good or pleasant. There will have to be much mitigation of negative effects. On the bright side, this is the SECOND time we will have dealt with this phenomenon. We have some experience.
I will do my best to explain some of the complexity, and I will warn you right now, my explanation of that complexity will include blunt talk about not just the horrorshow CCP, but also about the Chinese opposition. The Chinese opposition will be FILLED with factions, not all of which have the same goals and interests, other than ending the CCP – and even there, it’s not 100%. The Chinese opposition is also FILLED with CCP elements and assets, and cannot – no, make that SHOULD NOT – be universally trusted.
Beyond that, the GOALS of the Chinese opposition are not necessarily coincident with our own. “America First” means never going back to “sucker status” with any Chinese successor state. There are plenty of CCP controlled-opposition “sheltered capitalists” who are led around by a ring in their nose called “easy money – the way things used to be”. They want the CHINA HUSTLE to resume. CCP will USE THEM to try to make Trump go easy on China, and then to go easy on the CCP.
Likewise, the controlled opposition is filled with CCP spies, CCP apologists, and easily manipulated CCP-haters who can be depended on, by their knee-jerk opposition to anything CCP does or says, to carry disinformation and false messages, etc. Likewise, the fastest way for CCP to get to YOU is either through American assets like the Bidens, or through controlled opposition Chinese, generally in or from Hong Kong or Taiwan, but also through proxies which include Singapore, Indonesia, Vietnam, and others.
I will add more information to this thread as the election approaches. Please feel free to add ANYTHING about the China side of #BidenGate here – particularly if it helps explain things about the CCP or the opposition. I am particularly interested in anything relating to the Chinese opposition – please put that here, but be careful not to bring either doxxing of whistleblowers or CCP disinformation. Yes, the latter can be hard to spot. I will try to help explain, so don’t worry – not a problem if you bring it accidentally. Just be prepared for me to “explain your post” if it should not be taken at face value. This is INFO-WAR, and it will be intense.
I have been serving two masters on this one site, and that simply doesn’t work.
Without an “ignore” function, so that people can ignore certain other posters, it is basically impossible to have both civility and incivility on this site, and the “calls of the civil against the uncivil” are increasing daily.
This conflicts very fundamentally with my hatred of ALL censorship, and my desire to FIGHT the PROG-NAZI SCUM, the ChiComs, and their Soviet Democrat allies by creating a zone for free speech AGAINST THEIR WILL.
Some of us have a built-in or self-built “ignore” function. We can let people scream at us and not really care that much. Most do not have this ability, or else they lost it during all these years, living under PC and “the Nazis of Nicety”. Most of those who don’t have an ignore function, are not going to get one in their lifetime. This, despite the promises of both software supremacy and some dude who got it, almost 2000 years ago.
So I have to improvise.
Anyway, I have two goals:
(1) continue to make The Q Tree a place of refuge for those who need CIVILITY as a refuge from cultural Marxist chaos and satanic influence
(2) provide real free speech using the WordPress platform, in a place where nobody can be deplatformed for any reason of free speech, including incivility, vulgarity, prejudice, etc.
These two goals can only be accomplished by creating a second site, similar to The Q Tree, where there is absolutely no expectation of civility.
This site will be a work in progress, to be called The U Tree. U as in URANIUM. It will be nuclear, and it will be the place where a lot of PAIN is delivered to our enemies.
You can go there now if you want to see the plywood and plumbing, so to speak.
https://utree.home.blog/
If you make a comment, I will let you in. This site won’t “go live” with real content for a few days, but if you want to get on the A list, you can comment on tonight’s open thread over there.
I *WILL* be looking for authors. There will be no need for moderators – even me – except to empty the bin.
I STRONGLY ADVISE THOSE *REQUIRING* CIVILITY TO NOT JOIN THIS NEW SITE.
In other words, don’t join if you have actual expectations of good behavior by anybody there. People will be FREE to speak as well as they wish, or as ill as they wish.
I expect it to be a little “chan-like”. It will be a BARROOM. There WILL BE BRAWLS. Lurking is probably best for many of you. Think of all the people you have asked me to ban, moderate, warn or discipline. This place is their new home. It will be like them. It may be like you, too, because people would be in some cases very surprised by who has been the target of moderation requests.
I have likened this approach to how I won my war with a cute but incredibly aggressive red squirrel that would do anything to chew its way into my garage and nest. I could have killed it rather easily, since I knew its moves very well, and could thwart it at every turn. However, I decided to win through peace. So I created her a beautiful little home, and now she lives in it, and guards my entire property from other red squirrels.
It’s all being done so that no one like Donald Trump will ever be elected again.
At least, that’s how the leadership at the world’s most powerful tech company – and those who control them – sees it. “It” is the active manipulation of search algorithms so as to promote a version of reality that does not exist.
Not that many users of their search feature didn’t notice when search results failed to turn up expected citations, but inside the company known as Google the powers that be were not shy about their disdain for the forty fifth President of the United States, and they actively tried to keep Donald J. Trump’s presidency from becoming a reality by putting forth a version of the truth that was anything but.
At the time, an employee by the name of Zachary Vorhies saw what was happening and was more than a little disturbed about what he saw. That being the case, he began to collect incriminating information from inside Google for whistleblowing purposes. For over a year, Vorhies compiled information. Earlier this year, he took that collection of documents and shared them with the amazingly tefloned and trusted James O’Keefe at Project Veritas.
“I gave the documents to Project Veritas, I had been collecting the documents for over a year. And the reason why I collected these documents was because I saw something dark and nefarious going on with the company and I realized that there were going to not only tamper with the elections, but use that tampering with the elections to essentially overthrow the United States.”… “These documents were available to every single employee within the company that was full-time. And so as a fulltime employee at the company, I just searched for some keywords and these documents started to pop up. And so once I started finding one document and started finding keywords for other documents and I would enter that in and continue this cycle until I had a treasure trove and archive of documents that clearly spelled out the system, what they’re attempting to do in very clear language.”
The initial Project Veritas interview featured Mr. Vorhies incognito, but it was not long before an anonymous Twitter user doxxed him. Following the outing, Google went to work sending him a cease and desist order, demanding to know with whom he had shared the documents, and beginning the process to have Mr. Vorhies declared mentally ill or incompetent.
And so he returned to Project Veritas to tell the rest of the story including his detonation of his dead man’s switch. Originally, it was his threat to Google. In the end, Mr. Vorhies realized the best thing was to just put it all out in the public sphere.
If you’re not familiar with “red flag” laws, then you had best get there quickly. This new attack on the Second Amendment is actually WAY WORSE than any previous one, and constitutes what may be the most cunning attack on the CORE values of America EVER. The more I have learned about these laws, and analyzed them beyond that, the more alarmed I have become.
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FYI in Australia we have no right to firearms, need licenses, gun safes bolted to the floor and wall, ammo stored in seperate compartments, regular check-ups by state agencies etc and “red flag laws” have always been a thing here.
A colleague of mine had his firearms confiscated by the state after attending a rally against immigration policy. He took the state to court and after several months won his case and was able to recover his firearms, only to have the state then cancel his firearms license on a separate technicality, related to his “unsuitable character”.
Another colleague who was a regular attendee at political rallies has had his property raided by police at least three times in the past eighteen months, police claim to be “searching for illegal firearms”. They never find any and have no reason to believe they will, officers carrying out the raids have verbally apologised to him after each search, informing him that they’re just following orders.
Another man I know was gun pointed inside his own home by police after getting involved in a brief fist-fight with Antifa, after trying to attend the Milo event in Melbourne’s North. His wife and children watched their father cuffed at gun point inside his own house, before being taken to the police station to be questioned, then charged with “affray” –But the charge was later dropped.
This is what “red-flag laws” will get you in America. Regardless of the noble excuses the state and its pawns will make, this is how these laws are actually used in practice.
At first, I was only gathering and looking at OTHER PEOPLE’S concerns. But then I started thinking about things on my own. I started putting FACTS together. I started asking what the EFFECTS of red flag laws – already known in Australia – would be on America.
I suddenly realized what is going on.
El Paso and Dayton are not merely about this election. They are about REVERSING THE TRUMP PHENOMENON for good. They are about UNDOING the “Q” movement. They are about restoring the FAKE NEWS. They are about SAVING GLOBALISM and DESTROYING AMERICANISM. And AMERICA.
And yet, it almost seems like we’re sleepwalking right into these damn things.
So here you go. THIS is what these SICK laws are actually all about.
10. Red flag laws make SPEECH a RISK.
This was a profound realization – that RED FLAG LAWS CHILL FREE SPEECH FOR GUN OWNERS. Almost all of whom support TRUMP, by the way. Real “coincidence” there.
Gun owners CANNOT afford to “take chances” and “say the wrong thing”.
Think about what I just said. Think how ORWELLIAN that is.
What this means, then, is that Red Flag laws are in fact a profound attack on the FIRST Amendment, disguised as an attack on the SECOND Amendment.
They create an ARTIFICIAL CONTRADICTION between the FIRST and SECOND Amendments.
They conflate speech and violence on LEFTIST IDEOLOGICAL TERMS – using leftist minds as judges – just like Vysotsky’s Soviet ANTIFA does. Just like ANTIFA was DESIGNED to do.
ANTIFA, filled with boys who call themselves girls, and girls who call themselves boys, who says speech is violence, and violence is speech.
This is sneaky as hell. Frankly, I cannot imagine that even a cunning POS like Cryin’ Chuck, or a shifty old witch like CHI-FI, could think this stuff up.
Let me put it this way. If it wan’t CHINA that came up with red flag, it was probably ALIENS.
Pencil-necks. You know what I’m saying. THESE GUYS.
SCHIFF TEE PHONE HOME
9. Red flag laws turn neighbor against neighbor.
Again, this is incredibly insidious. Of course, COMMUNISTS and NAZIS love to DIVIDE people, but Americans? HOLY MOLY. I want to get along with my liberal neighbors. All this is going to do is generate suspicions and recriminations.
Yes, the COMMUNISTS who have taken over the Democrat party probably want MORE DIVISION, but that is the OPPOSITE of what Trump wants.
So why should we do it? As TRUMP supporters, we don’t WANT more division and suspicion.
8. Anonymous reporting makes political abuse a certainty.
Being able to CONFRONT ONE’S ACCUSER is a CORNERSTONE of our Constitutional rights. This is the SIXTH Amendment. This is the heart of DUE PROCESS.
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
Sixth Amendment
This ability to confront accusers, before FINAL ACTION is taken, serves to LIMIT the power of anonymous accusations or suspicions. People cannot “get what they want” by an accusation without DEFENDING IT FIRST in a courtroom.
At least, that was the way it was SUPPOSED to work.
SIDEBAR: Note that there is an opposite problem, when the media and FBI only work for one party, in that anonymous PUBLIC accusations are the only recourse – WHISTLE-BLOWING, basically.
Yes, we have something called “anonymous tips”. But in that case, police are required to investigate and THEN decide based upon their OWN investigation if there is REASONABLE CAUSE to take action. With “red flag” laws, police are compelled to act BEFORE there is even proof of a crime. Unproven accusations are usable to CONFISCATE ARMS – the FINAL ACTION of the process. THIS IS BACKWARDS LOGIC.
This is COMMUNIST and POLITICAL.
Once again, Communists are up to their FAVORITE TRICK – the politicization of processes. Just like the Communists now running the Democrat Party politicized the DOJ and FBI, now they want to politicize local policing. They did this with their “Promise Program” that destroyed due process in Parkland, and now they want to “go big” with destruction of due process, by taking the concept nationally, using “red flag”.
There is excellent reason to believe that POLITICAL OPERATIVES will use red flag laws to harass their enemies – meaning US. We have already seen incidents of this – the SWATTING of innocent people – in states and nations that have these laws. Australia is particularly bad.
I actually have personal experience with this. I had forgotten all about it, until today.
During the 2016 Trump campaign, I was falsely accused of illegal gun carry in a felony zone by anonymous Trump opponents. This was something of a mild “swatting”, and I was very fortunate, because the police didn’t believe the complaint (which I then proved was a lie). Since then, there have been TWO entrapment attempts on me, quite possibly orchestrated by federal agents of some kind.
Political harassment using law enforcement is REAL and very dangerous.
Wolf Moon
SO – do I personally believe that “red flag” laws will be abused? ABSOLUTELY. And I predict with CERTAINTY that they will be abused against ME, if passed in my state, or nationally.
I repeat – 100% certain that they will be used against me, because of this blog.
7. Solving rifle murders before illegal alien murders is illogical.
Just look at this graph.
This shows the power of the FAKE NEWS to distort the world in favor of DEMOCRAT GOALS.
The YUGE bar on the left is murders by illegal aliens.
The thin sliver on the right is murders by rifles. ALL of them.
Red flag laws will only solve a FRACTION of the deaths by rifles, on the right.
But now let’s consider theoretical “green flag” laws, which would treat illegal aliens like gun owners. We would deport the illegal aliens, based on anonymous tips, without THEIR due process rights. They would then be vetted like gun owners, and – if “safe”, they would be let back into the United States. Even as illegals, but safe ones, we would let them back in. ALL the safe ones. Who knows – maybe MOST of them would come back in. But no matter how many, let’s presume that we only let the safe ones back in. The murderers DON’T get back in.
This theoretically solves ALL of the murders on the left.
ALL OF THEM.
So why aren’t we pursuing GREEN FLAG LAWS FIRST?
Maybe because Democrat Communists don’t WANT us to solve the bigger problem. Maybe because THEIR biggest problem is actually TRUMP VOTERS – and not murders using rifles OR murders by illegals.
6. Red flag laws deprive us of the rights we are due upon arrest.
This is subtle, but it is YUGE. I mean it – this is a BIGGIE.
This is why, if there is ever a national “red flag” law, I believe that it MUST have a “voluntary arrest option“, that GIVES ME MY FULL CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS *BEFORE* TAKING MY GUNS.
In fact, the ONLY red flag law that I believe will ultimately pass muster with SCOTUS, is one that allows the accused the option to say “You can detain ME, but you cannot take my guns. Not until I have seen a judge with my lawyer present.” At that point, the police enter the person into NORMAL processing, which brings the accused before a judge in a timely manner, and ALL NORMAL RIGHTS ARE GRANTED. This path is almost guaranteed to be fully Constitutional. And the DEMOCRATS are undoubtedly going to hate it, because it will turn the tables on these damnable laws, ending their abuse SWIFTLY in a flurry of expensive lawsuits against both accusers and the state.
Once your guns are taken, they are lost in the system. Once your guns are taken, the communists have control. Once you LET your guns be taken, you have WAIVED YOUR RIGHTS. We have to make these laws ACKNOWLEDGE that the SEIZURE OF ARMS is unconstitutional, but that the accused can ONLY FREELY WAIVE THEIR RIGHTS to let it happen.
OR NOT.
And if we DON’T waive our rights, then we must be granted ALL THE RIGHTS TO WHICH WE ARE ENTITLED. Otherwise known as DUE PROCESS.
Are you with me?
What I am doing is PLAYING ALONG WITH RED FLAG TO SHOVE THE POISON PILL OF DUE PROCESS DOWN ITS ERIC HOLDER CHINA DRAGON THROAT.
When we walk away with a traffic ticket, instead of being arrested, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. When we pay our ticket by phone or on the internet, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. And when we allow unconstitutional confiscation as a CONVENIENCE to all parties, we are WAIVING OUR RIGHTS. Everybody needs to recognize this.
Arrest in America is NOTHING LIKE arrest in China. Arrest gives us STANDING.
“I want an arress!” – speaking of our OWN arrest – may be the single most important way to STOP DEAD the communist goals of red flag laws.
What I am saying is that we need to view this BACKWARDS from the unconstitutional reasoning of the communists. We need to add an ARREST OPTION, so that red flag laws – if these horrifying things ever pass – are just as Constitutional as a traffic ticket. We need to view the immediate collection of arms without arrest as WAIVING ONE’S RIGHTS TO BOTH KEEPING THE ARMS AND ASSUMING THE RIGHTS OF THE ARRESTED.
And beyond this, THE RIGHT OF WAIVER IS THE GREATEST RIGHT OF ALL.
The right to CHOOSE to waive or not waive our rights is the ULTIMATE RIGHT. We cannot give this up, and yet most red flag laws STEAL THIS FROM US, by giving us NO OPTION to be peacefully arrested IN LIEU OF taking our guns.
The rights of the arrested – and particularly the FALSELY ARRESTED – are a GIANT HAMMER with which we can batter both RED FLAG and OUR ACCUSERS.
We must NEVER waive our rights to KEEP OUR GUNS, nor all the other rights which we are guaranteed by the Constitution.
EVER. Others may, but not this WOLF. “I WANT AN ARRESS!’
[NOTE: What I am really talking about is being “detained”, but same diff. Buckle up – it will feel every bit like an arrest. But if it’s a bad rap, you will be out QUICKLY and WITH YOUR GUNS.]
5. Red flag laws corrupt the role of the police.
This is very typical of communists. In the same way that Communists LOVE to change the ROLES and POWERS of the primary branches of the FEDERAL government, so too they love to change the roles and powers of STATE and LOCAL government.
In PORTLAND, they make the police STAND DOWN to “protect” the POLICE and not the PEOPLE.
In LOS ANGELES, they make the health department STAND DOWN to “protect” the “rights” of the homeless and not their health.
And in sanctuary cities around the nation, they make EVERYBODY stand down to protect non-citizen criminals, and not law-abiding citizens.
But conversely, communists may make police STAND UP in roles that are not actually theirs.
What communists are doing here, is making police act as “judge, jury, and executioner”, by confiscating arms before there is any proof to a DUE PROCESS that there is justification for doing so.
This is a corruption of the role of the police. This is JUST LIKE the way that communists under Obama corrupted the military and NASA, abusing their purposes instead of simply closing them down, which would be too obvious.
Worse still, this corruption leads to the NEXT problem with “red flag” laws.
4. Red flag drives a wedge between police and gun owners.
Red flag laws will not only drive a wedge between citizens and police – THEY ARE DESIGNED TO DO EXACTLY THAT.
Why? Because BOTH law enforcement AND gun owners support Trump. Because law enforcement AND gun owners typically RESPECT each other.
Red flag laws are designed to WEAKEN the bonds of respect between law enforcement and gun owners.
Red flag laws are designed to cause DIVISION between Trump supporters.
Sneaky, isn’t it?
3. Red flag laws drive a wedge between police and veterans.
Veterans will be particularly hard-hit by accusations of “unworthiness” due to the Democrat “false offering” of PTSD. Communists in the Democrat Party offered and promoted PTSD self-categorization to veterans PRECISELY so that they could eventually have their guns taken away. It was a long-term, patient plan, but it worked like crazy, and it is coming to fruition now.
I’m not saying PTSD isn’t real. Trust me. I know it’s real. But HOW that reality is integrated into society is what we are talking about. The PTSD category can be ABUSED.
MUCH propaganda has been deployed here. Watching it has been very educational.
The fact is, political leveraging of PTSD by gun-grabbing communists will create suspicions between veterans and police. Obama and Eric Holder could not be happier about this result.
And this leads to my next reason.
2. Red flag drives a wedge between doctors and patients.
Patients are already NOT being honest with their doctors about their medical status and gun ownership because of Obamacare and its sneaky socialist spying and judging. But you haven’t seen anything yet.
Under red flag laws, doctors will basically become “the enemy”. They, and their nurses and assistants, will be deprived of any information that could possibly result in a red flag complaint – once people realize that their information is not safe.
Trust me – HIPAA is BULLSHIT that is completely orthogonal to what Deep State needs to target patriots. Deep State can work around it in a heartbeat. How do I know this?
It’s DROP TIME.
I caught my doctor being used in a test run of a deep state scam against gun owners. I believe that my doctor was INNOCENT in the process – I believe they were deceived and USED. But I had some WARNING on what would happen, and was completely ready for the various steps of the process. It all happened like clockwork, exactly as predicted. It was a very beautiful scam, and will work against almost any patriot.
The key step is something that is outside of the “fake science” we are allowed to know, but that I know because of my unique background and some basic theoretical reasoning. It’s nothing “woo-woo” – it’s just been suppressed by Fake News. It’s horrifyingly real, but we were allowed to be “Eloi” for the “Morlocks”.
And the WORST PART is that this scam will sync right up with red flag laws, as I expect they are supposed to work, if we allow them to pass.
I’m not ready to go public with the details, but – well – let’s just leave it at that. I have hinted about it before, and the White Hats “have it all”. Maybe somebody else will drop the full bomb. That might cause a wee bit of scrambling, so I leave that choice to higher powers.
Fun times.
And now, the most insidious of all.
1. Red flag is designed to push Trump’s voters off social media.
This is perhaps the most profound realization I’ve had so far.
This goes straight to interfering in the 2020 election. And every election after that.
It’s bad enough that free speech is going to be stifled in real life by red flag laws. But social media? Our ONE WAY of working around the Fake News? Gun owners will FLEE.
“CHYYYNNA” knows this. They know this will kill Trump’s support online.
Which brings me to the last, EXTRA, and final reason red flag laws are a bad idea.
0. Red flag is a key part of China’s conquest of the Pacific.
By neutralizing America in the same way that they neutralized New Zealand and Australia – taking away the speech of its enemies – China will become the dominant force in the Pacific first, and the World later. Censorship of opposing viewpoints through gun laws was a way to take down opposition without firing a shot. China leveraged GUNS against SPEECH and it worked.
Words are our bullets. Once we fire them, they stay fired.
Wolf Moon
Note that I DO NOT take down threats or “maybe threats” made against individuals. I leave everything up as EVIDENCE. Those who make such statements are welcome to clarify – the clarifications will stay up, too.
If I believe there is a chance that a person MAY be making such threats in an attempt to get this blog closed, or has been manipulated to that end, I will ban them either temporarily or permanently, in an ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION. I may also ban identified provocateurs as well.
I believe that the PUBLIC has a right to statements made PUBLICLY. Once a threat has been made, it is in the PUBLIC’S INTEREST (and the interest of this site) that it remain PUBLIC. I believe that the social meme of HIDING such information was slowly introduced by COMMUNISTS, and our media and law enforcement MISTAKENLY went along with it. The meme has also infected social media, after being propagated through LAWYERS.
HIDING TRUTH IS ANTI-JOURNALISM.
This is an ALINSKY TACTIC to make us FEAR THE TRUTH, and in particular to FEAR FREE SPEECH.
We cannot recover free speech without practicing it and TESTING ITS LIMITS CONSTITUTIONALLY.
ONLY DOXXING POSTS (true doxxing, not “deadnaming”, which is a form of transmania censorship) will be HIDDEN, not removed, after being recorded. All other evidence will be kept public, based on TRUE JOURNALISTIC PRINCIPLES, GUARANTEED BY THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
Also, we LOVE LAW ENFORCEMENT, so DO THE MATH on whether any email address and IP information will be given upon request to RESPECTED law enforcement (meaning not that MURDERING, DISCREDITED, “STAND-DOWN” HILLARY SHERIFF IN FLORIDA, or politicized SDNY losers and haters acting in bad communist faith).
Please note that what may seem like a joke to one person may seem like a threat to others.
EXAMPLE: “milkshakes“
Conversely, well-wishes that traitors receive DUE PUNISHMENTS BY LAW are tolerated if not approved. Your words stand on their own – it is not my job to clarify, mollify, frame or explain them. It is my job to give you free speech and preserve a public record thereof.
Long story short, TL:DR, don’t make threats because they will not be taken down.
Forty years ago, I would have been writing this as a letter to the editor of my favorite science association magazine, AFTER the president of that association would have ALREADY said something similar PUBLICLY to the President of the United States, BUT – well – times have changed, and the heads of science associations don’t say things about leftist groups that Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer don’t approve first.
So today WE THE PEOPLE talk about one of my favorite sciences – CHEMISTRY.
Let’s talk about relative dangers – what is hype and what is not hype.
Remember the “Deplor-a-Ball” after the Trump inauguration, when those DNC-Creamer-Antifa types (whoever) were going to use BUTYRIC ACID to attack the ball?
It’s time for some BRUTAL honesty for the sake of DISCERNMENT.
People on our side made a big deal about butyric acid being “corrosive” at the time, but the truth is, butyric acid is a weaker acid than acetic acid, the main stuff of VINEGAR. Pure acetic acid is not bad stuff – one could actually wash their hands with it, as long as they washed their hands thoroughly afterwards with water. Acetic acid, like butyric acid, is a WEAK ACID.
Weak acids give you TIME – maybe even INFINITE TIME – to wash them off. If they’re going into your STOMACH, where it’s already even MORE acidic, it’s not even a big deal.
That is why we put acetic acid – whoops, I mean vinegar – on our salads. We enjoy the MILD SENSATION of its WEAK ACID NATURE on our TONGUES. On our MUCOUS MEMBRANES.
Are you starting to see this?
Even when acetic acid is BAD, like when you cough a bit from inhaling some salad dressing, or when we use acetic acid to make cute little lab animals COUGH (but not too badly!) in tests of COUGH SUPPRESSION, it just ain’t that bad.
By the way, they teach this stuff in universities. Or at least, they used to.
Butyric acid, like acetic acid, simply isn’t that bad. It STINKS really, really, really badly, and THAT is what the evil Democrats were going to do – STINK UP that fancy party of uber-hip, good-to-be-bad, Trump supporters.
That’s it. It was a STINK ATTACK. But many on our side tried to make it sound worse than it was, because they could, because the LOSERS and HATERS had basically made a really dumb error in using a stinky stuff with the name ACID in it. The Democrats didn’t respect the POWER of psychology and information over actual chemistry.
Yeah, I know the feeling – the Dems who plotted that attack are indeed evil punks who deserve to go to jail – but it was still just a STINK ATTACK – not a corrosive attack. Even if Democrats had thrown that stuff on people, it would have been like throwing a mixture of RANCID BUTTER AND VINEGAR.
Yes, it probably says “corrosive” and “danger” on the label. Today, everything is OVER-LABELED, and we don’t have much DISCERNMENT of true chemical dangers. Everything is deadly in California for a reason – so that nobody has discernment. They WANT people to be like babies, utterly dependent on “experts” like me.
BUT NOW FOR SOME DISCERNMENT. Now for something discernibly different.
Fast forward to ANTIFA, and their threats to throw water balloons filled with “muriatic acid and wax” at conservatives. THAT, my friends, is a whole nuther beast. THAT is where CHEMICAL DISCERNMENT comes in.
Muriatic acid is – as you can see here – as much as 28% hydrochloric acid.
28% Hydrochloric acid is, for lack of a better term, concentrated hydrochloric acid.
People quibble over concentrations here, but it is frigging MEANINGLESS. As I will explain.
From Wikipedia:
Hydrochloric acid is produced in solutions up to 38% HCl (concentrated grade). Higher concentrations up to just over 40% are chemically possible, but the evaporation rate is then so high that storage and handling require extra precautions, such as pressurization and cooling. Bulk industrial-grade is therefore 30% to 35%, optimized to balance transport efficiency and product loss through evaporation. In the United States, solutions of between 20% and 32% are sold as muriatic acid. Solutions for household purposes in the US, mostly cleaning, are typically 10% to 12%, with strong recommendations to dilute before use. In the United Kingdom, where it is sold as “Spirits of Salt” for domestic cleaning, the potency is the same as the US industrial grade.[14] In other countries, such as Italy, hydrochloric acid for domestic or industrial cleaning is sold as “Acido Muriatico”, and its concentration ranges from 5% to 32%.
Even the toilet bowl cleaners based on HCl are shocking to me in their strength, and they are nowhere near 28% – more like 5-10%. I have ordered my wife NOT to buy those things. We had to air out the house the last time she used one. I smelled HCl everywhere and I did a MAJOR “WTF”.
I’m not saying this isn’t a damn good product. What I’m saying is that people need to be damn careful with it, and – well – my dear wife needs a more carefree product, let’s just say.
Note that the PRINCIPLE here is the same as what ANTIFA is doing with added “wax”. The “gel” is a way to make it STICK. They’re just talking about even stronger acids.
Check out the warnings on this gelled 5-10% acid. Seriously. READ THEM.
Trust me, these differences in high (>5%) concentrations only mean a few seconds MORE or LESS before it does the SAME NASTY STUFF TO YOUR BODY. These are all STRONG CONCENTRATIONS OF THE SAME ACID – a substance known as hydrogen chloride.
If we are brutally honest, then the reason that they CALL the commercial, industrial-grade stuff “muriatic acid” – an older name that NOBODY uses in the laboratory any more – is simply because it DOESN’T SOUND AS BAD.
Oh, they’ll give you some industry jargon history blah-blah-blah excuse, and technically it will be true, but FUCKIN’ A THIS SHIT IS JUST CONCENTRATED HYDROCHLORIC ACID.
AND CON HCL IS BAD SHIT.
I know this sounds harsh, but I personally think that police need to SHOOT anybody throwing balloons, once strong acid has been identified. They need to END THE THROWING IMMEDIATELY.
Here is why I feel this way.
I have DEALT with both butyric acid and muriatic/hydrochloric/whatever acid. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
Hydrochloric is one of the ones they WARN PEOPLE ABOUT in the lab. Nobody warns you about butyric acid, even if you can find a bottle.
In contrast, chemistry students in laboratory are going to use concentrated HCl a LOT, and they need to respect it. Nothing will FREAK OUT a chemistry department head faster than hearing that some freshman spilled concentrated hydrochloric acid all over themselves.
The first thing that will be asked is HOW FAST the stuff was washed off. SECONDS COUNT.
Imagine a pint of the stuff in THE FACE.
Hydrochloric acid can blind, or if inhaled deeply as a liquid, mist, or concentrated vapors, KILL. A strike in the face, like Andy Ngo of Quillette got with the concrete “milkshake”, would likely blind or kill him, if it was con HCl instead of concrete.
He would have been in WAY worse shape than what you see below.
Update to @MrAndyNgo supporters — he is being admitted to the hospital overnight as a result of a brain bleed. You sick “journalists” and other hacks gloating about this should be ashamed. As for the rest, please pray for @MrAndyNgo who we need back in health — brave man!🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️ https://t.co/XYVy4EbIzv
— Harmeet K. Dhillon (@HarmeetKDhillon) June 30, 2019
That, my friends, is the result of NORMAL weaponry. ROCKS, basically.
HCl in the hands of ANTIFA is a CHEMICAL WEAPON.
When we are in the laboratory, we ventilate butyric acid for STENCH, but we ventilate hydrochloric acid for DANGER.
Inhale a little bit of water, and you are on the ground coughing. Inhale concentrated hydrochloric acid, and your lungs are burned from the inside.
Are you starting to see why I am basically thinking the feds need to send in the troops and restore order to the whole bloody left coast? This stuff is ridiculous. This isn’t America. This is the frigging Russian Revolution.
By IDIOTS who scream about RUSSIA? Seriously?
It’s literally INSANE.
I think I’ve gotten every kind of concentrated acid on me. Every one of the “strong acids” is horrible in its own way. Sulfuric burns through clothing and skin, but it’s slow. Nitric is faster and oxidizing and does interesting things to clothing, but it’s not super-volatile. You can get a fuming version of either sulfuric or nitric acid. Those are a bit nastier. Nice, fresh, highly concentrated hydrochloric acid fumes on its own, just a bit, and the fumes have a very seductively pure but deadly look, kinda like the railroad crash above. Hydrochloric is the most like a chemical weapon. It’s volatile, searing, fast, and strong.
The idea that these ANTIFA people want to make it even worse – more like napalm on human skin by adding the wax – that is just sick. It’s like our “yippies” went from protesting ABOUT napalm to MAKING IT.
I’m pretty sure that ANTIFA is Robert Creamer’s work, because he said he likes to use mental patients, and these people sure seem like mental patients to me. They are – quite literally – criminally insane, thanks to PC and antisocial socialist brainwashing.
Antifa has gone too far with hydrochloric acid. In my opinion the plotters need to be arrested now, or the police need to use DEADLY FORCE once these people start throwing concentrated strong acid.
Have we ever had people like this in America before? Certainly not that I can remember. This is UNAMERICAN. What is WRONG with Oregon? What is WRONG with their governor? What is WRONG with Portland? What is WRONG with their mayor?
Are they taking LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE – a.k.a. LSD – a.k.a. “acid”? (Which is not even an “acid” at all, by the way.)
Or does PC actually have the power to make people mentally unbalanced?
Whatever is happening, Q is right. These people are SICK.
This FAKEBOOK FALLS FRIDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA KAG! world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
Always be able to tell our VSG this POWER STATEMENT in TRUTH:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
AND WHAT TIME IS IT?
TIME TO….
DRAIN THE SWAMP
Our movement
Is about replacing
A failed
And CORRUPT
Political establishment
With a new government controlled
By you, the American People.
Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
If the tech giants want to censor political speech & advance a political viewpoint, fine. But then they should be treated like any other publisher
We need to move the #Section230 debate into the 21st century. Question is no longer how to encourage an infant industry. Question is whether the industry’s biggest, monopoly platforms can use 230 to stifle competition, censor speech, and invade privacy
This guy totally gets it. Silicon Valley is now a COMMUNIST THUG OPERATION, operating out of ENEMY TERRITORY in CHINA-OCCUPIED CALIFORNIA.
There was a point in time when people realized we needed to go after Section 230. I remember posting quite a bit about it. THAT was when we finally had some kind of idea WHERE to attack the beast. But BEFORE THAT, we merely recognized that something was WRONG with Silicon Valley, and they would have to be ORDERED not to censor – possibly even BROKEN UP.
Steve Bannon was the first on populism’s side to prominently suggest this. What was NOT obvious THEN, but is extremely obvious NOW, is that the left’s MASSIVE attacks against Steve Bannon began IMMEDIATELY AFTER he began talking “anti-trust” against Silicon Valley.
Now – after talking to Tonawanda today, I realize COMPLETELY how socialism in general, and Silicon Valley in particular, snuff out ideas that they don’t like – by a very stealthy campaign to keep the discussion level of that item below some critical value that THEY UNDERSTAND.
SO – now that I understand how Google and YouTube are actually run by RED DIAPER SOCIALIST THUGS – certain things make sense – that these organizations might “farm out” the silencing of viewpoints they don’t particularly want to reach whatever critical value they must not reach. And we all know that OUTSOURCING is actually a form of denial of “how it got done”. When “methods” have to be used – why – just outsource! Outsourcing – oddly enough – turns out to be a form of the MAMET PRINCIPLE – “pretending not to know”.
On July 30, 2017, I made the unknowingly risky decision to publish a piece SUPPORTING Steve Bannon’s “radical” and “unthinkable” idea of reining in Silicon Valley censorship. It was based on the idea that SOME kind of “information anti-trust” was fully in line with Trump’s form of populism – that this was almost DESTINY for the MAGA movement.
It was NOT HARD for me to figure out that, after ALL the left-provoking things I’ve risked over the Obama years, the FIRST EVER STAKING OUT of my lowly abode JUST MIGHT HAVE BEEN CONNECTED to that little article, and the surprisingly warm reception it got. (Don’t trust the numbers on Twitter – more on that later.)
The intimidation actually got way worse, as in “classic thug type”, but there is no way that I, personally, can positively connect it to Silicon Valley. But I simply assume that the threat came from there. I stepped on SOMEBODY’S hedge fund.
I should note that whatever I or others did in response, it ended the problem. For a while.
Great Awakening, baby. Think they don’t use violence? Don’t think they use threats? Think again. The bogus staged Charlottesville incident (August 11-12) and the Las Vegas Massacre (October 1) followed shortly after this.
Followed – thankfully – by the firing of Treasonous McCabe and the deployment of QAnon, due to – in my opinion – militarily significant actions by the communists in conjunction with a politically motivated COUP ATTEMPT using the FBI and the Soviet American media.
Vegas was the last straw for “puttin’ up with the coup”. And I’m very glad people did what was needed after that, to end that bullshit.
Go on from there, to see how I was “awakened” to censorship at Twitter. This is actually a lot of fun to read, because in it, I am SPECULATING WILDLY about all sorts of stuff that we now know was not just true, but RIDICULOUSLY TRUE. Oh, man, that was fun.
From there, I eventually got on the “230” bus, almost a year later. Here is a nice thread:
The way to end social media censorship is to modify 47 U.S. Code § 230 (c) (1) (A) which is used to censor us.
The mod is that all PROVIDERS between any creator and any user must provide legal speech with an uninfringed FREE SPEECH PATH between the two.https://t.co/wB9XWRXN9V
Clearly, BANNON’S idea of actually CHALLENGING Silcon Valley took hold. Red Diaper Sergey and Google pulled back from China to Communist California, and – well – now we can see that….
IT TAKES A VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS ON THE INTERNET TO SPREAD THE WORD TO EVERY OTHER VILLAGE OF PATRIOTS IN REAL LIFE.
Heck – I may just have a Sam Adams.
And ponder the beauty of my new favorite composite number, 230.
I have not read this post AT ALL. And I’m not going to read it. I’m going to publish it, and THEN READ IT.
WHY AM I DOING THIS, YOU MIGHT ASK.
It is very simple. I support free speech, and I am especially concerned about CENSORSHIP of viewpoints on vaccination. I am personally pro-vaccination, but I think that the anti-vaxxers have found a WEALTH of valid concerns that need to be addressed by a combination of objective and imaginative investigation, honest admission, political enlightenment, and consumer CHOICE.
The COMMUNISTS in America are NOT doing it right. The real question is WHY NOT?
Vaccines are a PRODUCT – not a CHEMICAL TATTOO that the state has a right to force upon our bodies. GET REAL. Vaccines need the FREE MARKET to prove their worth – not socialist coddling of substandard products to be forced upon us like poisonous Chinese dog treats.
If you are old enough to remember the vaccine SANITY that we had in America before the sabotage presidency of crypto-socialist BILL CLINTON and his horrible co-President wife Hillary Clinton, of WACO fame, then you realize that all of this CRAP about vaccines is utterly unnecessary.
Let us just GO BACK TO WHAT WORKED BEFORE COMMUNISM.
M-KAY?
NOW – I believe that Adam Schiff is starting a “war on anti-vaxxers” in preparation to “war on Trump’s base”. I will be posting more about this soon. But before that, I’m going to let some FREE SPEECH about vaccination happen HERE AND NOW.
Enjoy!
-WOLF MOON
Moar AND Logic — Vaccines
by Gail Combs
GENERAL COMMENT
Perhaps the hardest concept for Americans to learn is Our Ruling Class views us with contempt. They do not hate us. To hate you have to view a person as an equal. The Ruling Class does not consider us equals, some do not even consider us ‘human’!!! We are just ‘Human Resources’ for them to use as they please. Once you realize they view us as free range slaves or cattle (chattel) their inhumane treatment of us becomes comprehensible and this plays into their views on vaccination. As long as THEY make money and the ‘Human Resource’ losses are ‘acceptable’ they don’t care if we are injured or die.
This is the best overall explanation I have seen of what we face in America today:
“…No prominent Republican challenged the ruling class’s continued claim of superior insight, nor its denigration of the American people as irritable children who must learn their place. The Republican Party did not disparage the ruling class, because most of its officials are or would like to be part of it.
Never has there been so little diversity within America’s upper crust. Always, in America as elsewhere, some people have been wealthier and more powerful than others. But until our own time America’s upper crust was a mixture of people who had gained prominence in a variety of ways, who drew their money and status from different sources and were not predictably of one mind on any given matter….
Today’s ruling class, from Boston to San Diego, was formed by an educational system that exposed them to the same ideas and gave them remarkably uniform guidance, as well as tastes and habits. These amount to a social canon of judgments about good and evil, complete with secular sacred history, sins (against minorities and the environment), and saints. Using the right words and avoiding the wrong ones when referring to such matters — speaking the “in” language — serves as a badge of identity….
The two classes have less in common culturally, dislike each other more, and embody ways of life more different from one another than did the 19th century’s Northerners and Southerners — nearly all of whom, as Lincoln reminded them, “prayed to the same God.” By contrast, while most Americans pray to the God “who created and doth sustain us,” our ruling class prays to itself as “saviors of the planet” and improvers of humanity. Our classes’ clash is over “whose country” America is, over what way of life will prevail, over who is to defer to whom about what….”
We have already noted the consolidation of the trans-national corporations.
Later in the year, on 08/26/2016 PeterStrzok texted “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…” Page replys “Yep….”
Obama’s Science Czar, John Holdren certainly agrees and takes it a step further. He thinks it takes ” essential early socializing experiences”aka brainwashing to “ultimately develop into a human being.” GEE, does that mean IF you do not have the CORRECT ‘ socializing experiences’ you are not human?
Holdren, wrote on page 235 in “Human Ecology,” (1973) co-authored with Paul and Anne Ehrlich.
The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being,”
Michaelh made a comment on June 12, 2019 at 02:22 The interesting part of the comment is this:
….He told the other doctor he could solve his problem, but the other doc was skeptical. Later he saw the woman in question and she went on at length about the dangers of vaccines and all the information she had gathered online, listening to her intently and patiently the whole time. At the end of it he asked a simple question, “Have you considered whether the anti-vax information you have is a Chinese and Russian disinformation campaign designed to weaken the United States’ populace?” She experienced a mind-blown moment. He said after that she came with all of her children ever single time right on the vax schedule….
Please note this doctor DID NOT ADDRESS the core problem — the perceived dangers of vaccines — Instead he substituted one FEAR for another FEAR.
So let’s back-up and ask the questions that doctor did not address. WHY would the woman have:
#1. Distrust in the US government
#2. Distrust in the pharmaceutical companies
#3. Does her fear have a solid foundation?
Unfortunately, as we have seen over the last seven decades, the US government IS the Enemy of the American People. (see Codevilla’s article linked above) So the woman’s ‘Fear’ of the intentions of the US Government has a solid foundation. She can not trust that the government has HER best interests and NOT the best interests of the vaccine manufactures at heart when decisions are made.
….Results Fifty-seven published clinical trials were identified for which an FDA inspection of a trial site had found significant evidence of 1 or more of the following problems: falsification or submission of false information, 22 trials (39%); problems with adverse events reporting, 14 trials (25%); protocol violations, 42 trials (74%); inadequate or inaccurate recordkeeping, 35 trials (61%); failure to protect the safety of patients and/or issues with oversight or informed consent, 30 trials (53%); and violations not otherwise categorized, 20 trials (35%). Only 3 of the 78 publications (4%) that resulted from trials in which the FDA found significant violations mentioned the objectionable conditions or practices found during the inspection. No corrections, retractions, expressions of concern, or other comments acknowledging the key issues identified by the inspection were subsequently published.
Conclusions and Relevance When the FDA finds significant departures from good clinical practice, those findings are seldom reflected in the peer-reviewed literature, even when there is evidence of data fabrication or other forms of research misconduct….
The company that released contaminated flu virus material from a plant in Austria confirmed Friday that the experimental product contained live H5N1 avian flu viruses….
On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected. “It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email.
The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a licence is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.
People familiar with biosecurity rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted. Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences….
I remember when this information hit the news and I was appalled. I have worked as a QC Engineer in Drug manufacture. There is NO WAY IN HADES this should have happened. WHY? Because you LABEL EVERYTHING and it is double signed off when raw materials are withdrawn from the warehouse by manufacturing to PREVENT this type of mistake.
“Biochemist Brian Hooker, scientific advisor to A Shot of Truth, reveals CDC knew of risks for over a decade.”
February 19, 2014
For nearly ten years, Brian Hooker has been requesting documents that are kept under tight wraps by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). His more than 100 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests have resulted in copious evidence that the vaccine preservative Thimerosal, which is still used in the flu shot that is administered to pregnant women and infants, can cause autism and other neurodevelopmental disorders.
Dr. Hooker, a PhD scientist, worked with two members of Congress to craft the letter to the CDC that recently resulted in his obtaining long-awaited data from the CDC, the significance of which is historic. According to Hooker, the data on over 400,000 infants born between 1991 and 1997, which was analyzed by CDC epidemiologist Thomas Verstraeten, MD, “proves unequivocally that in 2000, CDC officials were informed internally of the very high risk of autism, non-organic sleep disorder and speech disorder associated with Thimerosal exposure.”….
…“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines. I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor of The New England Journal of Medicine.” —(Marcia Angell, MD, “Drug Companies and Doctors: A story of Corruption.” NY Review of Books, Jan. 15, 2009.)
Here is another quote of a similar nature, also published in the NY Review of Books (May 12, 2001, Helen Epstein, “Flu Warning: Beware of Drug Companies”):
“Six years ago, John Ioannidis, a professor of epidemiology at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, found that nearly half of published articles in scientific journals contained findings that were false.”…
So I hope these articles establish the fact this woman had a solid foundation for her concerns and the doctor’s default to ‘BLAME IT ON RUSSIA’ would be funny if it was not so serious.
Do you really think these Mega-corporations, who PAY the doctors, ACTUALLY CARE if a certain percentage of children are crippled or die from their vaccines? Don’t you think the Elite would LIKE to see American girls made sterile and more people on the government dole to aid the Cloward–Piven strategy?
What the Mega-corporations care about is MONEY and they have that all fixed up.
….No vaccine manufacturer shall be liable in a civil action for damages arising from a vaccine-related injury or death associated with the administration of a vaccine after October 1, 1988, solely due to the manufacturer’s failure to provide direct warnings to the injured party (or the injured party’s legal representative) of the potential dangers resulting from the administration of the vaccine manufactured by the manufacturer….
The first doses of swine flu vaccine will be given to the public before full data on its safety and effectiveness become available, doctors confirmed yesterday…..But, unlike seasonal flu vaccine, the pandemic version will be spread over two doses in a higher quantity, and one brand is expected to contain a chemical additive to make it go further, potentially increasing the risk of side-effects.http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/safety-questions-over-swine-flu-jab-1751547.html
“On February 22, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court shielded drug companies from all liability for harm caused by vaccines mandated by governmentwhen companies could have made a safer vaccine…. From now on, drug companies selling vaccines in America will not be held accountable… The only difference is that three decades ago, government officials were ordering doctors to give children 23 doses of 7 vaccines and, today, that direct order is up to 70 doses of 16 vaccines.”NVIC link
[Wolfie can you include a screen shot of the chart for Birth to 15 Months please?]
Here you go!
Wolf
First I am NOT a doctor and I do not have human kids. Mine are goats kids and lambs. However we are all mammals so at least some information applies across species.
Starting with newborns: Colostrum definition: A sticky white or yellow fluid secreted by the mammary glands after giving birth, rich in antibodies. The antibodies absorbed by the newborn protect against systemic invasion by pathogens while antibodies that are not absorbed play an important role in protection against intestinal disease.
The small intestine is lined with immature cells which are capable of absorbing macromolecules. Immunoglobulins ( antibodies) can not transmission across the placenta of the mother to the fetus. Instead the Immunoglobulins in the Colostrum is absorbed in the small intestine and thereafter transported to the blood. “The absorption of immunoglobulins has dropped to a relatively low level after 24-36 hours.” — The importance of colostral immunoglobulins and their absorption from the intestine of the newborn animalsfrom the National Center for Biotechnology Information, U.S. National Library of Medicine
Vaccination: Kid goats that had passive immunity from immunized dams, don’t get their CD/T vaccination until 8 weeks and again at 11-12 weeks. My vet doesn’t recommend doing it earlier. HOWEVER If the kid didn’t receive its mom’s colostrum or if the doe didn’t get vaccination a month or so before birth, you should vaccinate the kid at the age of 1 to 3 weeks and again three to four weeks later. (And PRAY)
Sheep 201: Flock vaccinations written by Susan Schoenian, Sheep & Goat Specialist at the University of Maryland’s Western Maryland Research & Education Center in Keedysville, Maryland.
… Passive immunity Vaccines are not very successful in young lambs, 1-2 months of age. For this reason, vaccination strategies recommend vaccinating pregant ewe to confer passive immunity to the lambs through the colostrum (dam’s first milk). Ewes should be vaccinated with the CDT toxoid approximately 4 weeks prior to lambing. Ewes lambing for the first time will need to be vaccinated twice in late pregnancy, four weeks apart. Maternal antibodies will protect lambs for six to eight weeks so long as lambs consumed adequate amounts of colostrum. It is recommended that a lamb consume 10 percent of its body weight in colostrum.
Lambs Lambs should receive their first clostridal vaccination when they are approximately 6 to 8 weeks of age, followed by a booster 4 weeks later. If pastured animals are later brought into confinement or dry lot for concentrate feeding, a third vaccination should be given. Some experts recommended giving artifically-reared lambs multiple vaccinations.
Lambs whose dams were not vaccinated for C and D can be vaccinated with some success at two to three days of age and again in two weeks. However, later vaccinations will likely be more effective, as colostral antibodies usually interfere with vaccinations at very young ages. The lamb’s immature immune system may also not be able to respond to vaccination at such a young age.
Lambs and goats are usually weaned at 2 to 3 months, horses at 4 to 6 months. Lambs and goats live to mid teens, horses into there 20s and 30s. Human babies are weaned naturally sometime between 2 and 4 years of age. Humans live into their 70s and 80s. Animals are usually vaccinated AFTER they are weaned!
Last recommendation: ” Each producer must weights the pros and cons of vaccinating for a specific disease. If the cost of vaccination exceeds the expected losses, then vaccination is probably not cost-effective….The risk of a diseases outbreak should be the criteria that is used to determine the need for vaccination.” — Susan Schoenian, Sheep & Goat Specialist Translation: Check with your vet/ vet school on what diseases are around your area and ALWAYS limit the exposure of your animals. If you show have separate quarantine areas for show animals also for animals you are newly introducing to the farm. …
What is the take home from all of this? 1. QUARRANTINE IMMIGRANTS don’t bring the disease into the country in the first place. Since our traitorous government refuses to do this, do as much as you can to limit your exposure and your children’s exposure especially for the very young. (I hate seeing infants at a daycare as I did yesterday.)
2. MOM should receive the vaccinations not the New Born.
3. MOM should breast feed during the first few days to pass immunity to her baby even if she does not plan to continue breastfeeding. Try to stay home with your infant or use a private individual (like grand parent) for your very young baby instead of a commercial daycare. This limits disease exposure and thus need for very early vaccination.
4. Infant vaccination is a poor second for nature’s Colostrum and very early vaccination is needed only if Mom has not past immunity on to the infant via Colostrum AND can not manage quarantine conditions. (Why my bottle lambs were in the kitchen and are even now in a quarantined area instead of with the sheep.)
I have also been warned by my vet that the vaccines for multiple diseases are not a smart idea. Spacing the vaccinations of individual diseases works MUCH better.
PDJT had strong opinions on timing of vax shots for his children, just as these parents did.
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There you have it. Please feel free to comment in any way you see fit. WE – unlike everybody else in socialist media – have free speech. Moreover, it is not MY JOB to determine what is “misinformation”. That is YOUR JOB.
W
FREE AS IN THE FREE FALL OF THE SOCIALIST MEDIA AND FAKE NEWS INTO A TRAP OF THEIR OWN CONSTRUCTION
Yes. There is a DIFFERENT place called “Parlor” that the Cabal is trying to get people to go to instead of Parler. It even gets favored in search engines and app stores. I have no idea who is behind Parlor, but it’s probably GOOLAG, the CHICOMS, the WOCOMMIE SISTERS, or the KGB-CIA. *** AVOID ***
Only PARLER with an “E” is dedicated to FREE SPEECH.
By the way, I love saying WOCOMMIE SISTERS. It sounds like a BAD BAND.
If you type your REAL NAME into any field in social media (such as “Gab” or “WordPress” or “Parler”) that says “Name”, you risk people seeing that name.
In fact, if you use your REAL NAME in ANY WAY in connection to a social media account, you risk being “doxxed”.
So if your email address is myrealname@company.com, then any HACKER of the site knows that YOU own the account.
You MAY or MAY NOT be comfortable with that.
On Parler (formerly pronounced “par-LAY”, now pronounced “PAR-luhr”) you can create an account that is “really you”, and you can get verified as being really you. But you don’t have to do that if you want to remain anonymous.
For POLITICS, I suggest you remain anonymous. To do that, don’t use your real name. Use a name like:
First Name: Joe
Last Name: Smith
User Name: joe_smith
It doesn’t have to be real. It could be:
First Name: MAGA
Last Name: CHICK
User Name: AwesomeMagaChick73
Then, use an email address that is not OBVIOUSLY you.
Are we clear about this?
If you actually associate your REAL NAME with an account, even if it’s “supposed to be hidden”, there is a RISK that – SOMEHOW – your real name, and not your USER NAME, will be released. It could be by hacking, by accidental release of the information (you check a box that says “Show my name” and it means your NAME and not your USER NAME), or just by you not understanding that when people go to your profile, they will see your name.
Please also note that Parler obeys AMERICAN laws about privacy, speech, and all that other stuff – not European laws.
If any of this is STILL confusing to you – the idea that if you put your real name into a social media product (meaning it’s on the internet) – that other people might see it somehow – then I suggest not doing anything new at this time.
Otherwise, I suggest that you NEVER type any personal information into a computer that you use for politics on the internet. NEVER. Using that rule, work out everything else, and only the intelligence agencies and who they support (such as the American communists and/or DNC) will know who you are. Because they have ALREADY stolen that information.
W
/ end warning
By the way, our VSGPOTUS Trump is not on PARLER yet, but I am starting to think it’s inevitable, so GET ON PARLER NOW!!!
Assuming that you understand this warning, I then suggest that you use the same handle (meaning USER NAME) you’ve been using on Twitter and/or Gab and/or WordPress, simply because it makes you easier to find for your FRIENDS.
However, if you want maximum security, then you can always use a completely different user name. The choice is yours.
NOW – finally – to the point of this thread.
If you are on Parler, please add your Parler handle (spelled exactly) in the comments. We are NOT using Parler for reorganization, because GAB is more robust and “commie-proof”. However, you are likely getting OFF Twitter and ONTO Parler, and we can share our Parler user names here.
Mine is the same on Parler as it is on Twitter and Gab: WOLFM00N with two zeroes in m00n.
You can sign up there. Follow the directions – it’s all very easy. You ONLY NEED AN EMAIL ADDRESS. But I strongly suggest deciding things BEFORE you go there:
what email address you will use
what name you will use
what user name / handle you will use
what password you will use
how you will remember your password
how you will remember which email address
Don’t pick stuff you are going to forget. THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM I see in users of social media is people picking obscure stuff and forgetting. DON’T DO THAT. Write stuff down if you have to.
Then start by going to my handle or somebody else you know. Look through my followers, and who I am following. You will see people you know. FOLLOW THEM!!!
And you are OFF TO THE RACES!!!
W
a.k.a. wolfmoon1776 on WordPress, wolf_moon on Disqus, WOLFM00N everywhere else.
This WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED WEDNESDAY open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.
You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.
Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.
Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.
Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.
Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.
And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:
I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!
It would also be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!
I am rankled by all of this censorship, but oddly, it’s the Natural News ban that just bugs the heck out of me.
This was done because of vaccines. THAT is where the “misinformation” censorship begins.
I’m a bit of a “Ben Carson type” on vaccines. I think they’re awesome, but I really don’t think we’re being HONEST about both the benefits and dangers. We’re not even being honest about the LOGIC of vaccines – how they work – why they work – and how close their powerful mechanism lies to the guts of the machinery.
Vaccines are like guns in a airplane. One of the best ways to take out hijackers. But if you don’t admit that BAD THINGS MIGHT HAPPEN, TOO, you are LYING.
So – for a pro-vaxxer, I’m actually very sympathetic to the other side, and believe that it’s not humane to force people to give vaccines to their children.
This was STANDARD LOGIC AND ETHICS back when I was a kid, in the early days of most vaccines, by the way.
Moreover, I think we have to be hyper-vigilant for the very FIRST sign of trouble in children getting vaccines, and to ASSUME – in an abundance of caution – that this may be some kind of dangerous sensitization. We must make extreme allowances for bad reactions to be taken as a warning sign against continued vaccination. Even if this means we are OVERLY CAUTIOUS.
But that’s not the REAL REASON I care about Health Ranger’s free speech.
This is very personal for me, because Health Ranger – meaning Mike Adams – the Natural News guy – is one of the few people in science that I still respect.
When the whole FBI was clearly lying through its teeth about the Las Vegas massacre, and the Communist Democrats and KGB-CIA were pouring out every kind of LIE and DISINFORMATION, a gadfly skeptic named Mike Adams, whose HOBBY was gunfire acoustic analysis, dared to PROVE (1) that most of the shots actually did come from a location consistent with the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay, BUT (2) many of them DID NOT, and therefore there was a SECOND GUN.
His simple, solid line of evidence was never disproven – only mocked, stonewalled, and shilled against by people who did not approach the incident scientifically and skeptically, as did two misfits of science – Health Ranger and Wolf Moon.
Later, two lines of evidence for a second shooter emerged, fully consistent with both Health Ranger’s distance predictions for the second shooter, and certain witness statements that SEEMED like disinformation, but now made sense. The FBI actually HAS those witness statements, by they way.
One of these lines of evidence was videographic – images of people moving in a predicted sniper location, and at a time (and place) in accord with those witness statements.
The other line of evidence I HAVE NOT REVEALED. It is AWESOME STUFF, too.
Why, you might ask. Simple. There was so much REACTIVE DISINFORMATION by DNC communists, and suppression of evidence by the FBI under Andrew McCabe, that I refused to let injustice get its grubby mitts on the final card proving them all to be LIARS.
I have held onto my discovery like a lost wallet, that can ONLY be returned to its rightful owner, because NOBODY CAN BE TRUSTED.
Someday, I will return that wallet, but not today.
If you wondered WHY I did the horrific task of reading ALL 58 Las Vegas autopsies, then I can reveal that now. I wanted to PROVE OR DISPROVE whether there was a second gunman according to the HR/WM variant of the theory. Alas, the forensic evidence publicly available in the autopsies HINTS slightly toward a second gunman, but does not definitively prove or disprove the idea with the data available to me.
However, I strongly suspect that there is plenty of physical evidence in the autopsies and other evidence to prove a second gunman from a second location.
I believe that any failure to pronounce a second gunman and the probable location is either disinformation for investigative / prosecutorial purposes, or evidence that FBI is too infected to function correctly in this case.
But the bottom line is this.
I am now of the opinion that the Silicon Valley censorship monopolies must be destroyed.
Utterly.
Smashed into a thousand pieces.
W
SOCIALIST MEDIA – FREE AS IN CYANIDE-LACED KOOLAID
