Dear KAG: 20230927 Open Thread, the MAGA Insurgency Part II and OPERATION TRUST

First prayers for  Deplorable Patriot, her Mom and her Family. May God be with them and also with our country. Second please excuse spelling and grammar errors, I am 1/2 asleep.

It would seem our country is FINALLY waking up.

Operation Trust.’ On the Infinite Strength of Questions — Burning Bright

Have you ever heard that phrase bandied about in the Info War?

On an Actual level, it refers to a declassified counter-intel operation conducted by the State Political Directorate of the Soviet Union implemented in the 1920s, in which Bolshevik (communist) aligned agents were both installed into and founded grassroots anti-Bolshevik movementswithin the Russian and Eastern European populations.

The goal of this communist operation was to root out existing threats to communist rule from within the sovereign population, and to provoke the ‘turn’ of anti-communist sentiment within those most likely to found, lead or join anti-Bolshevik movements in the decades to come.

In essence, it was an intelligence False Flag operation meant to trick anti-communist, pro-sovereign Russians into believing there was a powerful anti-Soviet movement in the offing; the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements and even sentiment within the destabilized empire. By cutting off the heads of the sovereign sentiment within the Russian population, the Soviet government was able to curtail early threats to its rule, while blunting the formation of future threats for generations to come…

(For more on said communist infiltration and its eventual defeat at the hands of the reforged Russian Federation, check out the Righteous Russia series here on Burning Bright.)

Burning Bright goes on from there. It is a good read AND VERY TIMELY. Burning Bright and Just Human also discuss this topic during last weekend’s Defected Ep 42 – Sun

A very rough transcript of the part I wish to discuss:

JUST HUMAN:

@36.45 …[It is important to have] healthy skepticism of our opponents that we don’t agree with, but having just as much if not more healthy skepticism coming from the news we do agree with. I think that is one of the most dangerous and where you can really slip up…. When the news is something you agree with at the outset… you have to have healthy skepticism of BOTH SIDES. MAYBE MORE SO OF YOUR OWN SIDE….

BURNING BRIGHT:

@46:30 We have been psy-oped and demoralized into believing that hope… is illogical. With an organic movement like the Q drops, people grift on to that, or they are installed and PAID and WE KNOW THIS HAPPENSthis is a MACRO Socratic Operation that is telling you, your nation has been subverted . [Telling you] THIS IS HOW TO FIND OUT who is subverting it and how and how to counter them… Q was not ‘Operation Trust’ but those who grifted onto it were little versions of Operation Trust…

When I heard this and then read Burning Bright’s article I immediately thought of DHS Sec. Janet Napolitano and The Oath Keepers.

“…(communist) aligned agents were both installed into and FOUNDED GRASSROOTS ANTI-BOLSHEVIK MOVEMENTS. …the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements and even sentiment…”

Given Jan 6th doesn’t it make sense that The Oath Keepers IS actually a DHS/COMMUNIST TRAP and the Trap was finally sprung on Jan 6th? Doesn’t that explain the outlandish sentencing AND THE ARREST AND CONVICTION OF PEOPLE WHO NEVER EVEN WENT IN THE CAPITAL? Especially given the fact the Banksters FUNDED the Bolshevik Revolution.

Just Human discusses just that about the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers starting at 1:12:45. He looks at it from the angle of having read their ‘confessions.’

Refresher on Napolitano and the Oath Keepers:

It all links back to Obama and Janet Napolitano.

Napolitano was head of DHS in March of 2010 when she switched focus FROM Muslim Terrorists TO Homegrown Patriotic Veterans and retired LEOs. (See my article AND Logic: The Conspiracy to Ban Guns

Funny how Rhodes Started up the Oath Keepers at the SAME TIME THE REPORT NAPOLITANO REFERS TO WAS WRITTEN…

 In an increasingly bizarre world Napolitano stands by the controversial Department of Homeland Security report which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S along with ordinary American patriots.

“…“Rightwing extremism,” the report said… goes beyond religious and racial hate groups and extends to “those that are mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of state or local authority, or rejecting government authority entirely.”

It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration,” said the report, which also listed gun owners and veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars as potential risks….”

Napolitano stands by controversial reportApril 16, 2009 

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S…..”

WIKI (Now changed)

Oath Keepers was founded in March 2009 by Elmer Stewart Rhodes a Yale Law School graduate, former U.S. Army paratrooper, and former staffer for Republican Congressman Ron Paul….

(I wonder if he was a SPY placed on Ron Paul’s Staff. Staffers move from person to person as congress critters come and go.)

Wolfie documents Napolitano popping up again in connection with Jan 6th HERE.

Now does these tweets make sense?

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Yesterday I discussed Mike Benz’s information on the destruction of our First Amendment right of Free Speech. There is one thing Mike Benz does not mention and it is a very effective tactic — the Limited Hangout.

A limited hangout or partial hangout is a tactic used in media relations, perception management, politics, and information management. The tactic originated as a technique in the espionage trade.

According to Victor Marchetti, a former special assistant to the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), a limited hangout is “spy jargon for a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When their veil of secrecy is shredded and they can no longer rely on a phony cover story to misinform the public, they resort to admitting—sometimes even volunteering—some of the truth while still managing to withhold the key and damaging facts in the case. The public, however, is usually so intrigued by the new information that it never thinks to pursue the matter further. — WIKI

So let’s go back to the Devolution video I Tuesday yesterday.

Devolution Power Hour #181 Featuring Burning Bright and Just Human – Wed 10:30 PM ET –

The first point I want to mention, is how YOUNG most of the Badland hosts are. Jon Harold has not even read Q, Kate was a Democrat as was Burning Bright. Just Human and Patrick Gunnels are Libertarians. I find they are missing a heck of a lot of the information that I have acquired from being an ‘EVIL BOOMER’

@ 1:45:40 Jon Harold talks about how necessary $$$ are and how hard it is to hold a full time job AND produce good content. “So I made that leap to doing this full time, but not everybody can do that.” [Very true but it makes you vulnerable. GC]

….Therefore being able to support yourself as full time Alt-News journalist is critical to the insurgency… WE have come up with a way… this is something WE talked about at GART II… this is how WE decided we could decentralize our information. This is how EVERYBODY CAN PLAY A ROLL IN THIS…”

Jon then pushes https://badlandsmedia.tv/portal/

It requires name AND AN EMAIL ADDRESS… I maybe paranoid but it makes me think of…the result of the operation was the successful identification, imprisonment and ultimately, long-term neutering of anti-communist movements …”

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What is ironic is I wrote the part about Limited Hangouts and the Devolution Power Hour BEFORE I saw Burning Bright’s ‘Operation Trust’ article. Talk about being ‘guided’!

Over the last several months I have shared my increasing suspicion about Patrick Gunnels. Here are some of my past comments.

Gail Combs(@gailcombs)  Reply to  nikkichico7

 April 4, 2023 16:16 … #1077456

YUP!

The Blair Rockefeller Report showed the Tea Party was WELL EDUCATED middle class BOOMERS. These are the CORE of MAGA.

(And they are still giving Patrick Gunnels grief on Badlands for his tasteless remark Boomers are EVIL.”  😆 )

Nice example:

countermoon
1 hour ago

I’m not a boomer—far from it, I’m not a huge fan of that troubled generation—but I admit to losing my patience when Patrick Gunnells unleashed another of his impulses against the boomers, falling for the “generational warfare” psy-op. I know this guy was a theater major, and provocation is his M.O., but enough already.

Gunnels is a THEATER MAJOR???
I do not know if it is true, but it certainly explains him. [I now know he is not]

Gunnels is NOT A Theater Major he was a math major. The confusion may have come from here:

Jen Gunnels | Games For Change

Меню Jen Gunnels earned her PhD in Theatre History and Criticism at the University of Texas at Austin and currently serves as Theatre Editor for the Hugo nominated.

https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/gunnels_jen

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Gail Combs(@gailcombs)

 March 26, 2023 17:06 …. #1072732

Patrick Gunnels is reading The Art of the Deal: https://rumble.com/v2epdr6-reading-epic-lit-book-2-the-art-of-the-deal-chapters-4-1130-pm-et-.html

It does not matter. He is getting an ASSWHOOPING!

only 812 likes, 22 down votes

AND

The commenters are telling him off!

Top comment:

Tjjis1

15 hours ago

I’m really disappointed in your boomer comment earlier..

Gunnels Reply:

pgunnels

9 hours ago

Them you’re definitely one of the bad ones.


I have noticed Gunnels can no longer break 1000 likes since he came out with the Flat Earth crud. [CURRENT UPDATE: Current P Gunnels Rumble, up votes ~500 and under with 7k to 14K views. That is 1/2 what he was getting a year ago with 20 – 45K views and over 1,000 ^ votes.]

Maybe Jon Harold will get a clue and TOSS HIM but probably not at this late date.

Virus Denialism

Gail Combs(@gailcombs) e

 July 21, 2022 03:44 …. #929196

Patrick Gunnels unfortunately fell for the ‘THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS VIRUSES” It seems to be based on saying electron microscopes are FAKE….

Rest of comment here: https://www.theqtree.com/2022/07/20/yes-virginia-there-is-a-virus/#comment-929196

I am going to add this:

Steve Kirsch Joins Patrick Gunnels to Discuss Pathogenic Viruses
A debate on Virus vs NO SUCH THING between Patrick Gunnels and Steve Kirsch:

I interview Patrick Gunnels who claims that viruses don’t exist

What I find VERY interesting is the top several comments on the Kirsch Gunnels debate on Gunnels channel, (first has 68 thumbs up) are all congratulating Patrick for defeating Steve Kirsch. We are talking the first 2 pages… The commenters on Steve’s channel also congratulate Gunnels. Please note that Patrick recently let slip he had taken courses in debate.

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VIROLIEGY — Keeping the Truth Movement True with Patrick Gunnels and Eric Coppolino

Exposing the lies of Germ Theory and virology using their own sources.

Yesterday, Eric Coppolino and I were invited to the “Reading Epic Threads” show with Patrick Gunnels to discuss unity and disunity in the truth movement and where to draw the line. We also focused on whom to trust in the medical freedom movement as well as how to decide how far to go when trying to awaken people….

I do not think I trust these guys to tell me the truth.

WIKI –

Eric Francis Coppolino (born 1964) is an American investigative reporter who specializes in corporate fraud and toxic torts litigation, and also the former astrologer for the New York Daily News and Marie Claire magazine.

Linked-in

My next personal reinvention, well underway, is scifi/fantasy novelist. Specialties: Astrology, toxic torts litigation, compersion, studio photography, street photography….

Publisher & Editor Planet Waves, Inc.  – Present 25 years

Planet Waves is a high-end news and information service centered on astrology, but also providing information about erotic education, environmental issues and politics. We offer exquisite original photography, many daily features and subscriber services. I continue to work as an astrology consultant for businesses and individuals with a focus on midlife career changes….

Mike Stone Proves My Point about the Dogma of Virus Denialism

…illustrates my accompanying point about how the nonexistence of viruses is really a belief system to which they cling dogmatically, requiring them to ludicrously reject all relevant scientific literature while themselves being capable of producing nonethat actually supports their belief.

The above is a very nice point by point rebuttal. Wolfie did a rebuttal too: Yes, Virginia, There is a Virus – The Q Tree

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This is what the Cabal is saying about Gunnels and viruses:

HOW ANTI-VAXXERS PASSED OFF PRO-TRUMP YOUTUBER PATRICK GUNNELS AS DR. KNAUSS

…According to the post, Dr. Knauss tested 1,500 positive COVID- samples and none of them contained the coronavirus. He claims that the tests contained type A and type B influenza viruses. The post also notes that the results were sent to several laboratories and the same results were received. Later, Dr. Knauss applied to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) requesting live COVID-19 samples, but the latter responded that it had no such samples. Knauss claims that not a single laboratory has isolated the coronavirus that confirms that COVID-19 is a fiction and in fact, the virus is nothing but yet another flu strain….

The text of the posts spread by Georgian anti-vaxxers allegedly involves remarks by Dr. Derek Knauss. Neither the Doctor with this name nor any study conducted on COVID-positive tests can be found in scientific databases. The Spanish fact-checking organization Maldita writes that the name of Dr. Derek Knauss from California does not appear on ResearchGate or Google Scholar, the web search engines for scholarly literature….

The posts are accompanied by a photo depicting a man. According to its caption, the man is Derek Knauss, Doctor of Medical Sciences who claims that the coronavirus is a fiction.

In fact, the man depicted in the photo is not Dr. Knauss, but rather YouTuber Patrick Gunnels. The latter runs a YouTube channel Reading Epic Threadscreated in 2019. In his videos, Gunnels mainly reads out and discusses the tweets of various users….

SO who is this ‘Myth Detector’?

It is a ‘Fact-Checking’ group out of the country of Georgia started in 2014.

ABOUT US

Our Mission: 

Media Development Foundation (MDF) launched its fact-checking and myth debunking platform – Myth Detector – in 2014, to uncover truth behind the lies, explore hidden agendas, raise the level of media literacy and inform both people and institutions of Georgia [the country] about the impacts of disinformation.

👉 Since November 2019, Myth Detector is a verified signatory of the International Fact-Checking Network (IFCN) of the Poynter Institute, working alongside with 100 fact-checkers from more than 70 countries around the world and member of#CoronaVirusFacts Alliance and WhatsApp Coronavirus Information Hub.

In September 2020, Myth Detector partnered up with Facebook to fight against misinformation in the framework of Facebook’s Third-Party Fact-Checking Program. Myth Detector reviews and rates the accuracy of content aiming to improve the quality and authenticity of stories in the News Feed. When rated false, Facebook shows the story lower in News Feed, significantly reducing its distribution and warning people who see the post or try to share the post that it has been marked as false. Facebook pays Myth Detector to perform this service for them but it has no say or influence over what Myth Detector fact-checks or what the conclusions are, nor does it want to.

Since 2016, MDF is cooperating with EUvsDisinfo – the flagship project of the European External Action Service’s East StratCom Task Force and is a member of the Open Information Partnership (OIP) bringing together think tanks, fact-checkers, independent media and grassroots organisations to support efforts to counter hostile information influence operations. The website was created by the Media Development Foundation (MDF) with the support of the German Marshall Fund/Black Sea Foundation for International Cooperation and German Cooperation.


The Media Development Foundation (MDF) is responsible for the material posted on the website. It may not reflect the views of the German Marshall Fund or German Cooperation

So Patrick is already on the Cabal’s radar for targeting.

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FLAT EARTH

The difference in comments between Mike Toon’s video and Patrick Gunnels version are… Telling.

Patrick Gunnels had no clue in this debate. – YouTube

Will Patrick Censor the comments you leave? Leave nice ones so his hypocrisy is clear. https://rumble.com/v360pkm-flat-vs-globe-patrick-debates-mctoon.html…

Mike Toon

This is an EPIC take down of Gunnels.

Start @ 33:35 MC TOON (Mike) vs Gunnels. Patrick has been a Flat Earther since 2019. Mike says he has been doing Globe Earth vs Flat Earth debates weekly for 4 years. So unlike with the virus debate with Steve Kirsch, who was not a virologist or a debater, Mike is ‘fully armed’

@ 37:30 Gunnels says his academic background is in mathematics, professional background is in software. In 2017, Gunnels noticed TPTB (the powers that be) info was not always reliable. “So I made a promise to myself I would only belief information if I could verify down to its foundations….”

(Excuse me while I ROTFL.)

Sorry, but just how much CAN a person ACTUALLY verify INDEPENDENTLY? DARN LITTLE!!! Instead what Patrick has done is profess belief in an ALTERNATE, much of which is unverifiable too!

In the first few minutes Gunnels tries his first debate trick — Change the actual topic from Flat Earth to a spinning globe.

@ 42:05 Mike says this is information that he measured himself. Previously I gave three different ancient techniques. Mike and 3 others use the second method, which was first used by Eratosthenes.

Gunnels asks if he has a video that explains it. As a Math Major he would have already been familiar with the method and he is. This leads to Gunnels second trick. He plays a video about Eratosthenes and his method and then says Eratosthenes makes the ASSUMPTION that the earth is round and therefore begs the question. @ 47 minutes Mike slaps him down saying you put that on me… Did I claim that as proof? And it gets better from there.

Mike: “The essence of science is to TEST something that is FALSIFIABLE.”

[This is where Steve Kirsch flubbed it. Not being a virologist, he could not actually test viruses.]

Then Mike goes into the hypothesis IF the earth is flat….(Slapping down Gunnels straw man debate trick) and looks at real-world measurements and uses trigonometry (Right angle triangle) and concludes, that IF the sun cannot be in two different locations, then Flat Earth is proven false. (1:01:30) And it goes on from there with Mike countering Gunnels using REAL WORLD MEASUREMENTS the entire time.

Gunnels then brings up a ‘Black Swan’ event.

To understand Mike’s argument look at this paper that Mike references and Gunnels ignores:

Distance to the horizon Andrew Thomas Young. (subject matter expert)

The ‘black swan’ event has the optical measurement very obviously confounded by the refraction phenomena as Mike repeatedly points out. As a result Gunnels becomes increasingly unglued and then at 1:30:00 kicks Mike off his Rumble channel.

If you have the time this is a really good lesson in how science (and debate) is SUPPOSED to work.

And as the cherry on the Gunnels pudding (head) you have this On Gab:

Patrick Gunnels @pgunnels Mar 7·

Fuck unity and the horse it rode in on.

https://gab.com/pgunnels

Well that certainly tells us what Patrick thinks of WWG1WGA doesn’t it?

SYNOPSIS:

Gunnels supports the claim that there is no such thing as a virus, letting Ralph Baric et al off the hook.

He goes even further saying there are no pathogens just poisons and parasites. That’s a dangerous point of view that could get people killed. He insults Boomers (who make up a significant part of MAGA) and refuses to apologize. And then he caps it off with the idiotic Flat Earth crap that was disproven before Christ was born.

So is Patrick’s real goal to splinter Alt News and also make them look like far-out wack jobs?

MORE INFO:

Badlands started up in Oct of 2022.

FEBRUARY 02, 2022: Sean Morgan interviews Patrick Gunnels of “Reading Epic Threads” about his new event in Nashville “ThreadFest 2022”

Start @ 6 minutes go to 10 minutes. Gunnels gives his sales pitch (He is a salesman after all.) — He talks of an event called Patriot Doubled Down where Jon Harold was a featured speaker. Gunnels says what his friend Jon and he noticed is the event covered stuff everyone already knew. “What we wanted was an event where great minds had really really dug into events… new ways of looking at things. The most fun was when Jon and I and 8 people sat around a table and talked.” That was the genesis of Thread Fest. “We could put together an event, [small 150 max] where the producers of the Great Threads of our world, where the great independent media minds of our world had gotten together to look at history, gov documents transactions… could interact.

So as I hypothesized, Gunnels was a major force behind the formation of Badlands and the CORRALLING AND PAINTING OF ALT NEWS AS FAR OUT WACK JOBS!

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Patel Patriot [Jon Harold] He is a former Catholic School fundraiser…

Nothing about his jobs with software companies or sales…

…. Threadfest deadline for room bookings has passed. So I booked a bunch of rooms on my own dime and will bundle them with your ticket! https://www.threadfest.show/tickets.html – Patrick Gunnels

Rooms are $230/night deal rates are $189.

2 night stay $378 per room.

20 rooms = $7,500… They were talking 150 guests so NOT selling 20 rooms out of 150 for a first time event is not out of the question. I do not have that kind of spare $$$ to toss around, how does Gunnels if all he does is tutor math students ? However that is not ALL that Patrick does.

It is interesting that it is hard to find out just what Patrick does despite his running as a Libertarian for election to the Texas House of Representatives against Cringeshaw. (Libertarians generally take votes away from the Republicans.)

This MAY be Patrick (looks like him). If so he wrote a Linked-in article about HOW GREAT ThousandEyes is:

THOUSANDEYES

Thrive in a Connected World

ThousandEyes was founded in 2010 by Mohit Lad and Ricardo Oliveira, colleagues from the UCLA [University of California LA] Computer Science department. Our leaders have deep experience in networking, Internet routing, and SaaS

Platform Overview

End User Monitoring

Assure network performance and web app experience from employee devices

Network and Application Synthetics
See how every network and service impact your enterprise digital experience

Not only is Gunnels connected to software, ?that monitors end users? as he said on the Mark Toon’s youtube, he is also a SALESMAN and more and more it is looking like he is selling Badland Hosts down the river.

DHS ‘Cat Herders’