Q vs. Reactive Disinformation

Before I get into the larger issue of Red October today, I want to focus attention on a small nugget of ADVANCED Q thinking and logic.  This will be a bit nerdy, and will twist a few undies, but it’s a good twist – maybe even a wedgie – of which some of the insufficiently critical autists are in dire need.
You will notice the featured image of this post is a meme purportedly showing shots fired from the LOWER FLOORS of the Mandalay Bay casino hotel in Las Vegas.  It took a while, but eventually (far too late, IMO) people figured out that these were just lights of various kinds.  But the damage was done.  An ENORMOUS amount of crowd investigation was wasted on chaff ideas and disinformation.
Why is this relevant?
It is my contention – and I think that many “autists” besides myself (is this info or disinfo? – watch language evolve) noticed this – that deployment of Q followed very soon on the heels of the Las Vegas DEEP STATE PROPAGANDA EVENT.
Let me hit you with a string of Questions to finish the argument.

  • What else [INTERNATIONAL] followed the Las Vegas Event?
  • Why is this relevant?
  • WHERE was this relevance located [MB32++] near the alleged site of the event [MB32] ?
  • WHY would somebody want to push a different location?
  • Was the target venue even visible from [MB4/MB10] lower floors? [NO]
  • Who might have checked this out? [W]
  • Who might have tried and FAILED to inject this truth into social media?
  • How and why did arguments then shift to MAINTAIN the deception?  [C_A?]
  • Who specializes in creating confusion after events? [JFK++]
  • Who noticed that disinformation was being re-crafted in real time? [W]
  • What did Health Ranger prove scientifically by audio analysis? [MB32 + ???]
  • Who worked furiously to discredit Health Ranger by influencing influencers?
  • Who realized social media comms were being used to craft new disinfo? [W++]
  • What is “reactive disinformation”?
  • How does one defeat “reactive disinformation”?
  • New comms?
  • Withholding details?
  • Questions, not answers?
  • Making people think again?
  • Things that add up to 17?

 
This is, in fact, one of the reasons I accept the VALIDITY of “Q” no matter what the origin, alleged origin, proven origin, disproven origin – WHATEVER.  Q is a valid counter to enemy disinformation, and particularly REACTIVE disinformation.  In my mind, Q is VALID MAGA no matter what.

Q earns faith so it gets faith.

 
Now – it’s time to bring this to Q’s recent posts.
Q is no longer just a counter to the enemy – it is a TARGET of the enemy.  The enemy is continuously trying to discredit Q.
One of the ways to do that, is to catch Q in a PINCH.
One particular pinch works like this – using DISINFORMATION:
Invalid disinformation is fed by “fingerprint-free” means to autists, so that they will believe it and seek endorsement by Q.
Q is then caught in a pinch:

  • Endorse, and give the enemy ways to DISCREDIT Q.
  • Fail to endorse, or disprove it, and DEMORALIZE autists.

This is particularly cunning, when the disinformation is SYMBOLICALLY TRUE but FACTUALLY FALSE.
Example:
Katz_Hillary
This picture appeared immediately before the “Dr. Ford assault” portion of the Kavanaugh SCOTUS hearings.  It alleges that the woman behind Hillary Clinton is Dr. Ford’s LAWYER, Debra Katz.  Many people saw this and retweeted it – even me.
Here is a picture of Debra Katz:
katz2
There is definitely a STRONG resemblance.  This is NOT hard to believe, either.  Debra Katz is in fact a HUGE backer of Hillary Clinton, and has surely been very close to her on numerous occasions.  One only has to check out a few links to see this truth.

Debra_Katz_Fundraiser
https://davidharrisjr.com/politics/christine-ford-attorney-debra-katz-was-a-hillary-fundraiser/
Fox_Kavanaugh_Katz
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/09/24/kavanaugh-accusers-enlist-high-powered-lawyers-dem-operatives.html
Broaddrick_Katz
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/09/23/juanita-broaddrick-sounds-off-on-debra-katz-co-for-supporting-hillary-plannin-n2521610


 
The problem?  The woman is not Debra Katz.  It’s Hillary’s PHOTOGRAPHER, Barbara Kinney.  In the picture, if one looks closely, one can see her both holding a flash/light meter/something and shouldering a bag of camera equipment.
And, to remove all doubt, here is a picture of Barbara Kinney, shouldering a bag the same way:
Barb_Kinney_belmont_stakes
One can go to her website, barbarakinney.com, and find other pictures of her that show the truth of the matter clearly.
NOW – we get back to Q.
Q posts a tweet which MAY or MAY NOT be from an authentic autist.  Remember – the picture is DISINFORMATION which is symbolically true, but factually false.
Here is the tweet:
Q_Post_2284_Tweet
The tweet is actually interesting.  If you read it assuming the first sentence is sarcasm, which is the way most people would read it, one is taken down the wrong path in terms of the details, but the right path in terms of the actual situation (that Hillary Clinton and Debra Katz are close).  But because it’s not actually true, and people on our side judge strongly on BASIC FACTUAL truth, this is a path to DISCREDIT those who pass it on – or get us to accept lies.
The fact is, there IS no collusion in the picture.  BUT there is collusion elsewhere, if you look for it, and that collusion is WAY WORSE than just a ride in the Scooby Van.
How does Q play it?  TWO MOVIES.  Both of which maximize the MAGA for two MAGA audiences.  Both of which maximize the greater truth which people get, IF they think for themselves.
Here is the Q post:
Q_Post_2284
What Q is doing here is taking disinformation and flinging the poo right back at the people who put it out for discreditation purposes.
Q does not actually endorse the (dis)information.  Instead, Q asks questions.  The READER can interpret them different ways, all of which make sense.
Are you AWAKE?
This is a good point.  If you accept the image at a symbolic level, you ARE more awake than most people, because you realize that Hillary and Katz are conspiring against the public.  If you realize that the image is factually incorrect, you are even MORE awake.  But if you realize it is BOTH symbolically correct AND factually misleading, AND can be used to discredit those on our side who pass it on, you are MOST awake.
The TRUTH is right in front of you.
Again – the image is the story.  Dig into it, and you FIND the truth.  The image is both true and false, and the TRUTH is devastating for Hillary, Katz, Feinstein and the Democrats.  The “error” of the photo actually PALES in comparison to the truth of the long-running, MONEY-BASED Katz-Clinton connection.  This is part of the logic of such disinformation, which tries to make us settle for CHUMP CHANGE (Debra Katz knows Hillary Clinton).  This is almost a Clinton SIGNATURE.  They use chaff scandal information – discrediting our side if possible – better than almost anybody.
Think for yourself.
That is exactly what I’m demonstrating here.  This is how we get SMARTER.  Don’t just “believe Q”.  Believe Q when Q says to THINK FOR YOURSELF.
Trust yourself.
The enemy has gotten us to not trust our own thinking.  NEVER turn back when you’re wrong.  Never distrust yourself.  Take the error, UNDERSTAND IT, and MOVE FORWARD with GREATER TRUTH.
Logical Thinking.
We MUST get logical thinking back.  It’s hard, it’s painful, and you will make a thousand logical errors on the way to one BIG TRUTH.  Suck it up.  We need LOGIC to WIN.
FAKE NEWS/HWOOD PUPPETS LOST CONTROL
This is the fundamental truth.  The enemy HIDES truth.  They LIE.  They spew disinformation to harm the innocent and the honest.  But they have already DISCREDITED THEMSELVES, and LOST CREDIBILITY.  That is why a NEW JOURNALISM – an HONEST JOURNALISM – reemerges.  That new journalism is US.
Cernovich_Media_Now
The best they can do is to try to DISCREDIT US by various means.
They will try.  And they will FAIL.


 

Do not give up on TRUTH.

THE TRUTH will not give up on you.

W

The Great Escape
W says take courage.  You are NOT alone.  I am not alone.  WE are not alone.  Q is showing us how to get where we need to be.  Q is going to help us regain our FREEDOM, and it is going to be WONDERFUL. YOU HAVE MORE THAN YOU KNOW.

Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20180920

This intermittently re-posted open thread will be VERY OPEN – a place for the various MAGA, Treeper and Q communities to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.  We ask that people NOT duplicate material posted to the Treehouse open threads.  Don’t cross-post, please.  We expect things that are more relevant to the Q community to show up here.
Say what you want, comment on what other people said, comment on people’s comments.  Keep it civil.  Treehouse rules, but expect lots of QAnon.
W

JamesCoburncafescene
It says right here that on the advice of Wheatietoo and Plain Jane, Wolf Moon is going to make me, James Coburn,  the site mascot.  You go, girls!  Memes away!  I could use a wardrobe upgrade.

Q's Parascope

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When people say “we are Q“, I find it immensely satisfying to consider the reality of that statement, and not to simply brush it off.  To look at the totality of our elaboration of Q posts into a movement, and consider how we might do it better.
Clearly, understanding Q helps us do it better.  And what – actually – IS that understanding?
It is that vibrant, moving, shifting, intelligent sum of our understandings, changing itself.  Thus, I find that people’s own INDIVIDUAL VIEWS of Q actually help CONSTITUTE what “Q” – the larger Q, so to speak – thinks.  And the CHANGE in that sum comes from SELF-AWARENESS and INTER-AWARENESS of the parts.
Simple, in the end.  But let’s not just think – let’s DO.
para59r had an interesting point of view on Q, from the comments on my first REAL post here, that I thought I would share, so that others could discuss.  I find myself in strong agreement with many of the points made.
An image of the original post, and then the text (for those who use text reader devices) is provided.
IMAGE:
para59r_opinion
TEXT:

In Q’s case being absolute could mean exposure. Ever notice that his proofs can only run so far. That his drops are are just a tad off from someone elses? He needs the validation but can’t really afford it. Does it really bother anyone that his bombs don’t seem to have the desired effect when neither do ours.
Trust Sessions, Trust Wray is not really the point. It’s trust the VSG in the White House who has trusted Sessions, and has trusted Wray.
If we remember back far enough at one point the Tree House thought Mueller was a good idea. Times change, fog clears and when it does we get ourselves back in order and push on. Some though might seem still to far out on the flank, still running with the old plan, or working with a copy we don’t have, seemingly out of touch but they’re watching from their lofty heights and laying down what fire they can as we saps in the trenches grind on toward the objective.
Q’s a phantom force and just like an army we have a certain antipathy for the air force, their objectives vs ours. They’re carving up a larger swath of land taking the battle deep in unwinnable territory to soften the enemy’s support, to disrupt what they can, as opposed to our closer more defined objectives, where the battle grinds on and success is measured daily in meters and yards, but its all the same war and were all on the same side.

I find this to be a great BRIDGE to several important points about the Q strategy, and even the larger POTUS strategy.  Some of these points I find validating in themselves, BECAUSE they are so strategic, and maybe even optimally so.  If we were NOT doing them, we would want to be doing them.
But rather than point them out myself, I think it’s worth challenging readers to identify them and discuss.
What think Q?
W

JamesCoburncafescene
Wolf Moon reads about battles others have been in, will be in, and are fighting at this very moment, and realizes that the battle is everywhere, whether he likes it or not.  Even in the peaceful cafe.

 

Post 2221

Q had a “Q&A” today, and one of the questions was – at least from my point of view – a bit unexpected.  OK – VERY unexpected.


Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 98088e No.3094236
Anonymous ID: 5948d8 No.3093831
Q
Are we alone ?
Roswell ?
>>3093831
No.
Highest classification.
Consider the vastness of space.
Q

 
People are already asking a lot of questions about this, and one of the theories (which actually makes a lot of sense) is that it was simply a bandwidth test.  However, I think it may have also been a “believability test”, too.  Probably for a variety of reasons.
Anyway, on Twitter, there was some discussion of it, and I’d like to bring my thoughts here.  I’m not going to be too argumentative about them – this is all very speculative.  But still, I want people to see my thoughts, which are likely going to be tamped down BIG-TIME on Twitter.
For this reason, I’ll present it as IMAGES first, of each tweet, which can’t be removed by Twitter.  I’ll include the actual Tweets as an appendix.  People can click on those and go to them, if they are still there.


 
QETI1
Next, somebody responds with an earlier Q post on the topic.
QETI2
Somebody responded to THAT with a “Got it!”
QETI3
And THAT is where I jumped in.
My thoughts will be hidden on Twitter – nobody will see them.  That’s why I’m bringing them here – to share with people who can appreciate them.  Not necessarily agree.  Just something to think about.
Here we go.
QETI4
Hopefully that is clear.  To put it more bluntly, Q sometimes misleads extremely well – especially the other side, but doesn’t just outright lie.  I find it difficult to reconcile the idea that this is disinformation with Q’s normal style – particularly when science (in my opinion) agrees with the idea of pervasive life in the universe (which also, in my opinion, argues for God).
I then began expanding on that.
QETI5
Nevertheless, I do think it was a bandwidth test.
QETI6
Now I want to get into why Q’s final answer is even more convincing to me.  When you see “AO”, that is my abbreviation for “Alpha and Omega”.
QETI7
What I’m talking about there is an aspect of the “anthropic principle”, which basically says “isn’t it weird that the universe seems so suited for humans?”, and scaling it up to the “isn’t it weird that Star Trek is even possible?” level.
Many argue that the anthropic principle is a tautology anyway, and I certainly see that point.  However, if one simply accepts the idea that the universe we experience is optimized toward intelligence for the reason of the tautology, then it becomes highly predictive at the same time, and the more and more we see it borne out, the more it tends to argue for intelligence as a kind of first principle of the universe.
Hmmmm.  That sounds like something.  Some old thought of mankind.  Where is Descartes?  Wake him up – he would be interested in this stuff.
Anyway, now it’s time to think of how mind-blowing all of THAT really is.
QETI8
Great Awakening actually BEING a “great awakening”?  Wow.  Could be.
But now I don’t want to provoke arguments, so I’m going to let the people who are going pale in the face have an out.  Here is where that starts.
QETI9
Q has stated multiple times that “they” came to the chans for a reason.  Being “first to be able to believe” freaky stuff is very likely part of that.
Now I wrap up with the “WHEW” post.  “Hey there – don’t worry – maybe only a few believe me – I think that’s what they wanted.”
That will give people PROPER pause – easy to reject – easy to accept – your call.
QETI10
There you have it.  The moment I believed Q about aliens.  I was only believing what I already believed, but I believed that Q was telling me the truth.  I believe this may actually be the first moment of official public disclosure, so I took a picture.
W

JamesCoburncafescene
“I wonder if this was why…. her turn…. interesting.  I think there may be more to this story than what’s in this newspaper.”

PS – there is also – via YouTube – considerable DISINFORMATION about aliens. Because the YouTube Brin/Wojcicki Red Diaper Socialist Club targets me individually with certain types of disinformation via their product, and particularly about aliens, and because I’m aware of it, I have reconstructed the Hillary left’s agenda on that issue VERY clearly.  It is definitely Satanic and atheistic, which is a bit of a contradiction in terms, but it’s 100% Cabal.
The message is BAD HUMANS who DESERVE CONTROL.  BAD AMERICAN MILITARY which is EVIL and TRUMP.  We need GOOD SOCIALISM.
That is not the Q message.  THANK GOD.
 

APPENDIX I – Twitter Posts

https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1042609439579271170
 
https://twitter.com/Iron_Surfer/status/1042614631632527360
 

 

 

 

FIN

Q, Sessions, SCOTUS & Trump

Treeper Johnny Bravo had a great question yesterday:
Johnny_Bravo_Sessions
Right here is the Q post in question:
Q_Post_2204
Before getting into that, it’s worth looking at the Q post right BEFORE that one, which may or may not be related:
Q_Post_2203
Treeper RAC then asked this excellent question:
SCOTUS_1_2_Q
To which I responded:
Identify_1_2_SCOTUS
Followed by this graphic:
Current_SCOTUS
From this page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Justices_of_the_Supreme_Court_of_the_United_States
You know what I’m thinking now?  I think that the reason for THESE POSTS:
Q_Post_2153
Q_Post_2200
…is that Radium Rod Rosenstein was trying to SET UP POTUS with some kind of OBSTRUCTION BS on behalf of Munster Mueller.  THAT would correlate with the post in question about Sessions.  So YES – I think this is about SESSIONS and ROSENSTEIN.
POTUS is doing the right thing.  DO NOT MEET THE GUY.  DO NOT TALK TO THE GUY.  He’s just another crooked lawyer trying to talk his way out of justice.  Another COMEY TRICK.
NOW – let’s look at that tweet, line by line:

PANIC IN DC
SESSIONS CLAS LETTER TO SC JUSTICES 1&2 RE: RECUSAL, UNRECUSAL, AND CLARITY RE: CONFLICTS BASED ON UNCLASSIFIED MATERIAL [TODAY].
HIGHEST COURT AUTHORITY APPROVAL
Q

Very simple.  To me, the proper interpretation of the post (and I have not looked at anybody else on this) is as follows:
Based on what is ALREADY declassified, Jeff Sessions believes that he has reason to request that Rosenstein be FORCED to recuse, that he himself (Sessions) can be UNRECUSED, and that this was APPROVED BY SCOTUS.
If this is true, this is BOMBSHELL.  It also matches THIS Q POST:
Q_Post_2196
This means that Sessions went into the [KILL BOX], otherwise know as the “briar patch” – and is now ]free[.  So “Br’er Sessions” (or “Br’er Fox”) just ran through the briar patch of recusal, where Mueller the Mule and all his non-recusing corruptoids could not go.
Genius.  If THIS is what really happened, it’s genius.
W

JamesCoburncafescene
Wolf Moon reading about Interpol’s hunt for Hillary Clinton in a French cafe.  The Chinese foot-dragger has been fired.  What a sunny day.

Where Do You Q?

I’m curious where people go for their QAnon information.
My favorite destination continues to be qanon.pub.
QAnon_dot_pub
I find that its web behavior is fairly fast and responsive.  It includes certain Q “replies” that are not found in all Q sites, and the filter works reasonably well.  It seems like a good balance of capabilities.  I like the simplicity.
Another site that I tried before – very similar – is qanonposts.com.
QAnonPosts_dot_com
The numbering system is a bit different – not unexpected – and the web interface behaves a bit differently.  I keep it as a back up, because when qanon.pub went down, I realized this stuff is all at risk of being undermined by the Socialist Cabal.
In fact, it will likely pay to have MULTIPLE BACK-UPS.
One very interesting site that somebody told me about, is qmap.pub.
QMap_dot_pub
This one is a bit more full-featured.  I like it, and again, keep it as a backup.  Note that this one has some nice flashy banner news at the top.
QMap_Banner
Has anybody tried the new VOAT replacement for /r/greatawakening?
That link is:  https://voat.co/v/theawakening
There is also a link to an 8chan board for refugees:
https://8ch.net/patriotsawoken/catalog.html
I have not been to that site, but I have been to another one on 8chan – the base Q site mentioned in a Q post as being the “fountainhead”:
Q_Post_2167
Link:  https://8ch.net/patriotsfight/catalog.html
That site is easily recognized by the “patriots fight” image:
Patriots_Fight_Board_Image
It’s a bit “busy” and hard to figure out – the fresh posts seem to be at the bottom.  There is an “expand” feature that I find very useful.
Patriots_Fight
While I don’t go to this one often, I make sure that I have a link to it, and that I’m PRACTICED using it, because I take Q’s warning about major shutdowns to come VERY seriously.
Please feel free to add links to your favorite Q sites in the comments, and to explain why you like them.  I may try to feature more in-depth looks at some of them.  Thanks!
W

EXTRA! EXTRA! Panic in DC!

The “Panic in DC” posts by QAnon have to be my absolute favorites lately.  If you don’t know what I’m talking about, well, here you go.  THIS was the latest group:
Q_Panic_Posts_917
The first time I really paid much attention to these was on 9/11 this year, when the following stream of posts appeared.  These were impossible to ignore.
Q_Panic_in_DC_911_Posts
That stream really told me something – that QAnon was actually “getting the scoops” before the fake news media.  In fact, Q was getting the scoops INSTEAD OF the fake news media.  THIS is when I realized that it really might be possible to just make the fake news media less and less relevant.
Here are a few more examples:

Q_Panic_In_DC_NatRev
Last but not least, this GEM, where the “Panic in DC” posts themselves are discussed:
Q_Panic_in_DC_Quotes

“PANIC IN DC” statements start a FIRE?
Twelve moves ahead.
Suicide watch.
Q

WOW.  Pretty serious stuff.  But nevertheless, just incredibly interesting.
Your thoughts?
W

The Q Tree

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I have decided to create a special BRANCH where those who are both Treepers (posters at The Conservative Treehouse, a.k.a. The Last Refuge, a.k.a. CTH, a.k.a. TCTH, a.k.a. https://theconservativetreehouse.com) and followers of the QAnon movement (Q-tards – whatever they want to call us) can discuss QAnon topics in peace and harmony.
I will work out the rules as we go, though I will err toward Free Speech within the limits of UNIMPEDED RESEARCH (very important) and productive discussion.  Growth will be slow.  Please be patient.  I have never done anything like this before.
Part of my motivation is to keep QAnon fans in the orbit of CTH, and to help keep QAnon posting OFF of CTH.  There is a strategic reason for this.  Sometimes I will explain why I do things.  Other times I will not.  People are welcome to try to guess why I say things – this is ALWAYS a good exercise in understanding – something Q is trying to teach us.  Why would I want to draw QAnon posting away from CTH?
I have no connection to Q other than a desire to understand Q.  As Q says, there is only Q, although Q+ appears sometimes.  When I call myself W, it is homage to Q – nothing more.
-Wolf
wolf_moon_profile
PS – can you guess what WQTH stands for?  Yes!  Easy!  I wanted SHORT, SWEET, and most of all EASY TO REMEMBER.