Dear MAGA: Open Topic 20181120

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

540 (or so) days since I got booted from the Old Tree House. Not that I’m counting, mind you.
Enjoying all the new company I have!

pjasond

I can always give trolling a try, so that you have somebody to rant at / about!!! 🙂

Spab

To be fair, P44 was, so far, the most capable foreign-born individual to ascend to the Presidency in the 21st century.

pjasond

And simultaneously, the least capable. Two (or is it three) can play that game 🙂

Spab

You are indeed correct. In such a small sample both ends of the spectrum are the same.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s sort of like that old joke about Hitlary having to console herself with the thought that PDJT came in second to last in the election.

singularZoe

And the most unqualified under the terms of the U.S. Constitution.

scott467

“Every once in a while I even get the urge to let out a good meaningless RANT, just to TRY IT OUT!”
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Do it Wolf, DO IT!
😁

pgroup

Uh, no playing the victim card here. 🙂

Plain Jane

Unless something is wrong with the website, now I’ve been kicked off. I cannot like, and my posts on the recipe thread won’t show up.
I tried twice this morning to post this recipe and crickets.Gonna share it with you all if that’s okay.
It is AIP friendly, no dairy nor eggs, Creamy Pumpkin Custard with Spiced Apples.
https://myhealthyharvest.com/2018/10/06/81/
It will knock your socks off, especially if you are in the process of trying to heal your gut.

Gudthots

Your badge of honor looks good on you. 🙂

Plain Jane

Thanks. 🙂

Plain Jane

Am wondering if someone is tasked with monitoring wq for comments. Last night I mentioned that I had not yet been banned, and they acted. Wonder If I’m banned at the sister or wife site.

Plain Jane

That would be Stellas place 1 . I didn’t post but can like there.

Gudthots
Gudthots

Stella has a recipe page for Thanksgiving up…
https://stellasplace1.com/2018/11/20/thanksgiving-dinner-favorites-3/

Plain Jane

Thanks. The pumpkin and the brussel sprouts recipes are really good.

Plain Jane

Just posted two recipes at SP.
It’s a shame that the leaf home would stop allowing at a recipe thread. There are many people doing AIP for many reasons. Most recipes out ther are eh, but this site has few but great looking recipes.

singularZoe

Thanks, Jane and happy Thanksgiving to you and to all.

wheatietoo

Aww…look at this little guy.
Hedgehogs are just adorable little critters.
https://twitter.com/BoringEnormous/status/1064605474220384258
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Paul Bronks’ twitter feed is filled with animal vids, if you are in need of a smile or a chuckle.
Hedgehogs are not native to No America…or even the whole Western Hemisphere, I think.
So I have never seen one in real life.
I think they are very cool little creatures.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I very recently took on a bearded dragon. Fascinating to watch.

pjasond

Well, compared to hyenas, clearly no contest … 🙂
Sorry, feeling paranoid about hyenas again, not sure why. 🙂

wheatietoo

Hyenas are loathsome creatures.
They roam in packs and steal the freshly caught prey of the big cats.
One of the most horrific things I have ever seen…was when a pack of hyenas attacked a Lion and killed him.
I wanted to shoot them all!
So I completely approve of it, any time a Lion kills one of those disgusting creatures.

pjasond

My reaction is the same. Whenever I see a pack harassing a pride at a kill, my blood pressure rises – can’t seem to help getting this reaction.
When the big boy rocks up on the scene – they scatter. Sometimes they lose one to the lion – and I get a feeling of satisfaction. Not sure what that says about me …

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It means you hate mobs of thieves.

pjasond

Thanks, that’s what I was hoping for 🙂

Plain Jane

It says you don’t like hyenas nor leftists. 🙂

scott467

“One of the most horrific things I have ever seen…was when a pack of hyenas attacked a Lion and killed him.
I wanted to shoot them all!”
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Whoever was filming it should have stopped it. Firing a single shot overhead would probably have scattered all of them.
But I’m not a big game hunter, so I would have asked one of the guides to be sure that would have the desired effect before I did it.
Yeah I know, ‘Prime Directive’ and all that jazz, we’re not supposed to interfere with nature, yada, yada, yada.
It never stopped James Tiberius Kirk 😁

wheatietoo

It was on the NatGeo channel…so yeah, they just ‘observe’ such horrors and do not interfere.
Like you, if I had been there I would’ve tried to stop it!
[And not by just firing an overhead shot — I would’ve shooting at the hyenas.]

pjasond

Sorry, my favourite clip …
Short version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pda4zULB3EA
Full version (I think a lioness gets killed in this one, then payback later)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdHtAZifPXw

pjasond

The Aussie equivalent is an echidna – not quite as cute – not sure if a male claiming to have any testosterone left is allowed to use that word – what the heck, I am feeling very secure in my masculinity today 🙂

wheatietoo

Here’s a couple more:
https://twitter.com/BoringEnormous/status/1063328584578842626
https://twitter.com/BoringEnormous/status/1063325792179052545
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Okay, one more…and I hope this doesn’t offend anyone:
https://twitter.com/BoringEnormous/status/1063509019401379840
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Bronks is a Brit, and has a tendency to use the f-word a lot.
So…fair warning.
I had to pass over several hilarious tweets because of the f-word.
But the videos really are a hoot.

pjasond

Uh oh, feeling some Aussie “bashing” coming on 🙂
Bloody kangaroo, letting our secrets out in public …

Linda

That’s really cute, Wheatie! I didn’t realize they were so tiny. Or is that a baby hedge hog?

wheatietoo

They aren’t very big…but that may be a baby one.

Tammy Evers (@EverEleutheros)

wheatie, those are hilarious, thank you for the late night LOLs

wheatietoo

You’re very welcome, Tammy. 🙂

holley100

Years ago I was manning a bank drive through window and a lady drove up and asked if I wanted a hedgehog. She said it didn’t need much care except for a daily hour-long walk to eat bugs. I declined though they are really cute little animals 🙂

singularZoe

They are adorable, Wheatie. Incidentally, there is a novel called, The Elegance of the Hedgehog,” and it is a good read, though it is ot about the animals. I was once at

Emeraldstar

Happy Thanksgiving, Zoe!
I KNEW I’d forget to mention some others here too, in my holiday wishes! Hah!
Bless you!
Emeraldstar

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Perusing the Old Tree House thread on the beefing up of the border…FeralCats has a major problem. He’s managed to be even more obsessive about Mattis than Louie was about Sessions.

pjasond

He obviously is aware of his having an issue – calling oneself feral would seem to indicate that … 🙂
Gunny pushing back at that line much?

Sylvia Avery

Yes, it goes on night after night after night. FeralCats whining about Mattis and Gunny asking for links/details but none are ever provided, oddly…

Plain Jane

I think the last thing that site allowed me to do last night was to give a Like to Gunny.. Unless that was removed.

wheatietoo

So the new scapegoats are Whitaker and Mattis?
Those who are trying to create division amongst Trump Supporters, have to have a scapegoat to obsess over…and make people fall for it, choose up sides and then fight each other over it.
Next will be ‘blaming Pres Trump’ for being bad at the job, or something.
Thanks for the report. I can’t bear to go there…it’s too depressing.

Sylvia Avery

Honestly, you aren’t missing a thing.
I was thinking a bit tonight about all the division SD has invoked or been involved in: anti Rush, hating on Mark Levin, frequent ridiculing of Hannity, suspicion of Sara Carter, feuds with various Twitter folk like Stealth Jeff and blogger Power Line.
I’m not here to defend any of them, I’ve had my doubts or my suspicions or irritations, too. But it sure made me think about how we need to be pulling our oars in the same direction and not wasting time and energy involved in eating our own.

wheatietoo

Yep…and Dan Bongino, even Tucker Carlson.
SMH.
Andrew Breitbart used to say that we needed to all pull together…and grab hold of those who were even a ‘little’ conservative…if we were ever going to stand a chance of winning this War.

Sylvia Avery

Oh yeah, he was feuding with Bongino not too long ago and I had forgotten about whatever his issue was with Tucker.
Andrew Breitbart was right. About a lot of things, but maybe about this most of all.

wheatietoo

And where do we see Andrew Breitbart as the ‘blog banner’?

Sylvia Avery

Oh trust me, the irony of THAT hasn’t escaped me either.
Was he always like this and I just didn’t see it? Maybe that is the truth. Maybe I have changed rather than our former host. I dunno.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I have seen some of them blaming Trump, too.

wheatietoo

So it has already started then.
That’s a shame…but doesn’t surprise me.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It’s always just a few, then more and more. I expect Mattis and Trump to come under more and more attack at the old Tree House.

Plain Jane

Me too. I got disgusted and just clicked away.

wheatietoo

This is funny.
https://twitter.com/John_KissMyBot/status/1064752639458582529
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I have noticed that the Invaders are no longer carrying those Honduran flags…or other flags from their home countries.
They’re now carrying Mexican flags.
The organizers must have made them put away the other flags…after hearing what our President said.
But if they’re carrying Mexican flags now, why don’t they just Stay In Mexico!
Oh, I know…Mexico doesn’t want them either.
What a sham!
Wielding those Mexican flags does not endear them to us any more than the other flags did.
Just go back home!

wheatietoo

I knew that Rumor had to be BS.
https://twitter.com/AmandaLeeHouse/status/1064525910760701954
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Sec Zinke loves his job…and he’s doing a good job of it, too.

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The disgusting Dems are just trying to tear down our President and his Team.
They are so shameless…that they will say anything and do anything to accomplish that goal.

pjasond

Yup, expect LOTS MORE, EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME. Sorry for shouting, Tasmania is far away 🙂

A.D. Everard

I heard that go overhead. 🙂

Sylvia Avery

TY for posting Wheatie. I’m sorry he’s under attack but glad he is sticking it out. The comments on his Twitter feed are vile. What hateful people we share this country with.
We really, truly are in a cold civil war. I may not have someone poisoning my well and scrawling Copperhead on the side of my house like they were always doing during the Civil War, but that’s only because the attacks are now cold and cyber for the most part. (Unless I were to forget myself and wear a Trump T shirt to the grocery store or something, then I’d probably be spat on or have a Coke thrown at me or worse.)

wheatietoo

Wow. This is some really sick stuff.
I was never a big fan of Celine Dion.
Didn’t dislike her…was just indifferent towards her & her music.
But this is really twisted:
https://twitter.com/DanielaQCrew/status/1064296021314936832
https://twitter.com/DanielaQCrew/status/1064296095885475840
https://twitter.com/DanielaQCrew/status/1064296121730822144

para59r


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[Wanted to post a pic so I’ve been learning how. Sort of test. I signed up with IMGUR and edited this, and chose the html option. See’s if it works. Then I chose the second html option just in case (might end up with two images but there small, aplogizes in advance if the image did not come out.
Any way slightly related. POTUS has been doing what he does well. Striking back from his twitter account. This is a pic (if it came out) of a swamp creature that keeps popping up out of the swamp. This not his first time out of the swamp. Can’t say how disgusted I am about him and what’s up with the devil horns???
McRaven
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/eroding-the-chain-of-command-by-trashing-trump-mcraven/
“you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2017/02/23/greatest-threat-to-democracy-commander-of-bin-laden-raid-slams-trumps-anti-media-sentiment/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ec1271ea78e5
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/08/16/adm-mcraven-revoke-my-security-clearance-too.html
What Voat has to say. https://voat.co/v/QRV/2861768

para59r

Image went into moderation. Maybe the whole post, but I can see the post so assume not. Anyway, in case your wondering what it was and aren’t coming back to see it was McRaven in his dress whites giving a university graduation speech. He’s has arm outstretched with index finger and pinky extended, middle two fingers closed, hand turned outward. Hey! That’s not a standard military hand signal. Just saying.

para59r

Does have to add while the pic may of had an innocent explanation back then, (Austin/ Long Horns thing) it certainly seems to capture him perfectly now or who knows, it may of been a double entendre all along.

para59r

Good to know. Sorry you had to wake and correct. No need to respond. Thanks!

pjasond

Wolf said freedom is emergent – sadly so is it’s polar opposite. Such is the world in which we live.
Currently freedom is battling tyranny – DJT vs Crooked. How is this even a question in this day and age – yet is is.
Such is the world. No point bemoaning it, I guess, just get out of bed each morning and laugh in it’s face. Then play your part in the dance.

wheatietoo

I don’t know what this thing is that she is asking about.
Looks like a ‘hanging cage’ to me.
https://twitter.com/DanielaQCrew/status/1064303611566583808
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This stuff is just twisted…and so very far removed from ‘wholesome’, which is the only thing that children should be exposed to.
https://twitter.com/DanielaQCrew/status/1064304583470735360

wheatietoo

Sorry all these tweets were tagged to her original tweet.
That’s not how these ‘threads’ usually work.

wheatietoo

These can’t be real babies.
This has to be some sort of sick artwork:comment image

pjasond

I couldn’t “like” any of these – my software would not allow it.

wheatietoo

I totally understand…they aren’t ‘likeable’.
I just thought people would want to see how depraved this new Celine Dion thing is, since Wolf had mentioned it.

GA/FL

I read that Celine Dion has gotten into some kind of cult – and this distorted vision of children is the result.
Her husband/manager died two years ago, making her vulnerable. That XVI whatever cult has been mentioned as a possibility.
The clothing looks like the dehumanization of children by adults for predatory purposes. Taking the wonder, innocence and beauty out of childhood. Looks like abandonment, the destruction of family and taking away security and protection for children.
It is truly ugly in every sense and level of the word.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The “like” button should have been an “agree” button, so you could agree with someone that this crap is…horrid.

pjasond

Agreed (and liked) 🙂

MysticRose80

I think a “disgust” feature would be more appropriate for that image.

Sylvia Avery

Really, really awful. WTH is wrong with her?

churchmouse

She always had a creepy air about her — to me, anyway. I couldn’t see the magic in her music, either.
I remember when she had her first international hit in the early 1990s. My young colleagues at the time thought she was the hottest thing since sliced bread and rushed out to buy her album. I was shaking my head then and am still doing so 25 (or whatever) years on.

Deplorable Patriot

Celine Dion is a product of the cabal’s marketing group. Sorry, but as a classically trained soprano, the Celine Dions of the world destroyed discernment of the people of what is quality product, and what is not.

MysticRose80

I don’t know what’s more disgusting: the images or the gender-neutral agenda.
I think the time has come for our side to consider a hostile takeover of popular culture. This crap has been allowed to corrupt our society for far too long.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That time came long, long ago.
But when they own everything and know better than to let any of us in (unlike the people who hired commies into the studios and let them take over), it seems pretty impenetrable.

Gudthots

A creative friend who has had a number of commercial ideas stolen in their lifetime told me, “you just think up new ideas.” Creativity triumphs.
BTW, popular culture appears to be engineered to provoke emotions (disgust, rage, terror, shame, sorrow, hopelessness) so that the creative, thinking, relational side remains shut down. Like a “stun gun” via media (images, music, etc.).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That only works if there’s another outlet for the creativity.
In the past, when every Hollywood studio was run by communists, you couldn’t sell a non-communist movie script to them. (You might get one through that was completely apolitical, but if there was any opportunity to slide in a bit of propaganda and you didn’t take it…they’d reject it.)
Similarly with newspapers and music and TV news and even written fiction.
The internet, for a while, provided a huge outlet for “indie” productions and content, many of which were not leftist. But now as we see the internet is largely controlled by Google, PayPal, Facebook, and Twitter; they can kill any effort that can’t be paid for out of one’s own pocket by demonetizing, and force you onto an obscure platform, but even there the IP host can be gotten to if they really need to.

Gudthots

Gab. Yep.

A.D. Everard

Exactly so, Steve, as I found out for myself after investing 40+ years following a dream (I’m not giving up, but it sure feels like a wasted life sometimes). They took over every avenue in the arts, just as they have in business, education and government.
This really is war because they are leaving us no other option. They have sneaked in a hostile takeover and we are only just waking up to it. I know hate is wrong and I know most of these communists have been hoodwinked, but I gotta tell ya, I get so angry with them all at times. I can’t wait for Trump’s Hammer to come thundering down!

A.D. Everard

You are so right, Wolfmoon. This is why jail terms are not enough and never will be. This has to be stomped out in a very permanent way or there will be no stopping it at all.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As near as I can tell, you can still self publish.
But that can be pretty thin gruel.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Wolfmoon, I seem to have more controls on the notifier, but ONLY on this one comment by AD Everard. I can trash it or mark it as spam! (Of course, it’s neither.)

A.D. Everard

Hi Steve, I’m responding to your NEXT comment via this one so you see notification (to put it under your comment, as it’s at the end of the line, I’d have to reply to myself, then you won’t see it).
Yes, you are right about self-publishing. I publish via Amazon, two books out, a third almost ready to go (sci-fi – paperback and Kindle), a blog for advertising, though quiet at the moment. And yes, thin gruel indeed. So much for the high life…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, it COULD be the next “Martian”
I actually wrote a novel. I was ready to publish, but I had an editor look over it…and she trashed it. And I realized she was right. I don’t know how to fix it, however.

A.D. Everard

Perseverance, mate. Writing a book is bloody hard work. Writing is also like an incurable disease, it crawls into your system and takes over and you can never ever get rid of it.
Good luck with your book. If you love what you do and your characters are near-and-dear to you, make ’em live. Do it for them. You’re the only chance they’ve got.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Your appeal on behalf of Erik and Yad’i (and Rob and Mtafini and Leitsa and Tatriku and Andrakh and Uruxi and Kavkor and quite a few others) is noted!

pjasond

On a somewhat less dark note than Wheaties posts above, this is worth a read …
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/that-has-such-people-in-it/
I apologise for the source – I know these never Trump hacks are despicable, but …
It is a discussion of the current state of part western culture – worth a read. Not sunshine and tweeting birds …

Deplorable Patriot

Interestingly enough, it was not just Orwell and Huxley who predicted the current state of human relations (that’s really what it is). The severity of the consequences was laid out by Pope Paul VI in 1968 in the Encyclical Humanae Vitae which is probably the most hated and least read writing on the subject available.

wheatietoo

This Mexican journalist says that people in the caravan are trying to stop observers from filming them.
Maybe it’s the organizers? I dunno.
https://twitter.com/RightHook99/status/1064581613969989638

daughnworks247

Again, President Trump was correct. They’re not sending their best.

wheatietoo

I’ve seen tweets saying that they opened up their prisons in Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica…to let them join the ‘caravan’.
Not verified, though…but it wouldn’t surprise me.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Why not? Letting them leave for the US is cheaper than giving them three hots and a cot. Or even three meals of crud and a bedbug ridden pad.

pjasond

How long before a Dem labels this Mexican journalist as “rayciss”?

pjasond

The chicken, France’s national emblem, is coming home to roost, so to speak …..
To the hot house, not the hen house 🙂
Mighty Macron (sounds like a national franchise of crone’s – McNugget – McCrone – Macron – I heard there was a first crone – Non, qui?) implemented a carbon tax on diesel, and the French are revolting 🙂 I love saying that. They are SO revolting – against the carbon tax I mean – not the OTHER revolting.
So they don’t like the hot house for which the tax is intended and are flying up to schitt on it a liddle bit.
Story here
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-19/france-suffers-anti-carbon-revolt-massive-road-blocks-against-macrons-diesel-tax

churchmouse

I listen to RMC, French talk radio, every morning for the political conversation. I also read a fair amount of French news.
These protests got out of hand in some places. Even motorists were verbally attacked in traffic jams. I saw a video taken near Nice where 15 or 20 protesters surrounded a car and shouted at the driver.
There were fights and serious physical threats in other parts of the country.
One of RMC’s morning shows, Les Grandes Gueules (The Big Mouths), has a little competition whereby a lucky caller wins a year’s worth of petrol. So far, the winners have been very grateful.
Macron does not care about the French people. He thinks everyone can be haute bourgeoisie (like he is) if only they work at it. Yeah, right.

https://twitter.com/Michael_Heaver/status/1057255295641104384
A survey taken a few weeks ago shows that President Trump is more popular in France than Macron is. (I can’t find the link at the moment.)

pjasond

Oh, that survey’s gotta sting the globalists – probably disappeared from the internet by now – can’t have the commoners seeing THAT.

churchmouse

🙂

daughnworks247

Jon Steven Tigar, the North California Judge, Obama Appointee, who decided President Trump’s asylum EO is not lawful, is the target for today. Sick to death of activist judges.

andrew1979

it is like a guarantee every time…

wheatietoo

Hmm…I thought speaking in riddles was declared “bad”.
And that’s why “Q is bad”.
But maybe not, when some people do it.

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There are multiple replies to this tweet asking “What?” and “What lines?” or “What are you talking about”.
But there is no clarification offered.

pjasond

The presidential thread comment count seems to have fallen a lot recently. Stands to reason, since some are now here, but still …

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

By abandoning that particular field, the trolls have nothing to do but troll each other. Eventually their master(s) realize they’re not doing anything “productive” and pull them.

judyw

SteveInCO, the trolls not only troll each other, they troll themselves with intense back and forth conversational posts of the same person with multiple accounts.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I am reminded of the time someone got a spam phone call on his landline. This was back when it was “Rachel From Cardmember Services.” He decided to engage the idiot the spammers hired to talk to anyone who pressed 1. While this was happening, his cell phone rang, with the same scam. He answered that call, and eventually simply set his phones next to each other and the two operators were talking to each other.
One of them almost fell for the very scam he was pushing.
This was on a youtube video.
So now the trolls are trolling each other on CTH….

judyw

That is hilarious….he was a creative genius! 🙂

churchmouse

Agree. I just checked out the latest threads (yes, I know), and comments are in the double figures.
Not sure if it’s a Thanksgiving effect or if the enthusiasm is now gone.
There is a blogging lesson to be learned from this. Don’t disparage a chunk of your loyal audience.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Daily thread is still below 600 comments. It generally was over a thousand by 2PM or so (Eastern Time).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

He’s done that before.
The more I think about it, the more I think, he was ALWAYS this way, and we just never saw it until he did his about face.
He’s always had a lot of sycophants on the blog; not just people who thought he was pretty bright and had interesting things to say but people who would gush over his analyses and praise his wonderful writing. They’d go after anyone who showed up and disagreed. There were a lot of less sycophantic, like minded people there, who agreed with his conclusions, and didn’t mind the sycophants. Sometimes an established regular would disagree with him once, and get away with it. But chronic disagreement was NEVER tolerated, neither by SD nor the sycophants. Dissenters would be run off, quickly; there have always been people there who reacted with extreme hostility to voices of dissent. I know I got jumped on, quickly, sometimes for the slightest deviation, when I was new there; I only got away with calling him out on an issue much later. [I tried to explain it in a footnote to this post in case anyone was interested, but couldn’t figure out how to explain it coherently, so I’ve deleted the footnote. Suffice it to say, he never repeated that particular claim, but it made me question his other claims on federal spending to this day, including the one where he says the big spendulus from early in the Obola administration has been renewed year after year; this is one I see people repeat on CTH a lot but there was never any evidence given for it.]
But suddenly SD changed his mind about Sessions. Now he’s saying one thing, and facing a board full of people disagreeing with him. No problem, though, because there was a small cadre of people who agreed with him now and he let them run rampant, just as the sycophants had always been able to, and someone brought in new people who agreed. The SAME policy, but different enforcers, and this time done against not just a few oddballs, but the (former) core of the treeper population.
SD has traded one group of yes men for another, to chase off the people who weren’t yes men, but happened to agree with him in the past but no longer did because HE changed his mind.
Anyhow, that’s my thought at the moment, but it could change.

Gudthots

A reasonable analysis.

churchmouse

So well expressed, Steve — many thanks.
I have been debating on whether to chime in and will do so.
Today, over there, for the first time, I could not ‘like’ anything outside of the blog posts. I couldn’t ‘like’ any of the comments, and, yes, I was signed on to my WP account. Strange. Has this happened to any other WP users over there?
I remember your posts, Steve, being intelligently composed with excellent points. I vaguely remember the controversy, if it could even be considered as such in reality. Well, obviously, you hit a nerve. It must have been bewildering: ‘What did I write?’
The story from Cripto about A2’s ban was interesting to read a couple of days ago. I wondered what had happened to A2. I find some of the things going on in that part of the world somewhat difficult to understand, so A2’s comments were interesting. Cripto’s, too. Same acerbic style with both …
It still doesn’t make sense to me how SD changed his mind about Sessions, which was great (IMHO), then decided to ban Q supporters. Was there a link between the two? If so, how did he make the leap from Sessions to Q, other than ‘trust the plan’? Was it that simple? I don’t agree 100% with everything that Q writes, so took ‘trust Sessions’ a bit loosely. Weren’t we supposed to trust SD’s analyses, too? Was he saying we couldn’t believe him AND believe Q?
I have no answers, so am throwing it out there to Steve and anyone who wishes to respond. Thanks in advance. I could ruminate on this for ages.

Gudthots

If you can like the articles, but not the comments, then you are banned. Congratulations on your new badge of honor. 🙂

daughnworks247

For a couple of days I could ‘like’ a comment. Now, I cannot do anything. I am banned and still don’t know why.

Gudthots

Congratulations on your badge of honor!

churchmouse

That is strange, daughnworks247. Sorry to read that.

PeteC

I was banned too posting as Jpcarson (PeteC) when I disagreed with SD’s assessment during the Kavanaugh hearings. If you remember, SD wanted to throw Kavanaugh under the bus after the Ford/Kavanaugh hearing, SD calling for an immediate vote and criticizing PT for backing his candidate (who had just put his judicial career on the line) and allowing for a brief FBI investigation. The immediate vote would have sunk Kavanaugh probably resulting in non-confirmation. But the President stood up for his nomination (the right thing to do), and now we have Justice Kavanaugh. I criticized SD for his error in judgement (nicely), and haven’t been able to post anything since. Guess quite a few here have been banned from posting on CTH???

churchmouse

Thank you, thinkthinkthink — much appreciated. 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

vaguely remember the controversy, if it could even be considered as such in reality. Well, obviously, you hit a nerve. It must have been bewildering: ‘What did I write?’

He never tried to make the claim again, and as near as I could tell, people forgot about it, and the thread didn’t turn into any kind of big brouhaha at all.
I’m not even sure you and I are thinking of the same incident.
[It was a time when he was claiming that the government was collecting money from both payroll tax and regular taxes (the biggest of those being income tax) for social security, spending one of the two on social security and the other on Godknowswhat. The problem was he was wrong about the amount of regular taxes being collected.]
I got away with that one; it had nothing to do with my being banned (unless he had a low-level resentment against me and my other criticism was the last straw.)

churchmouse

That was probably the one I was thinking of. I do remember a tax-oriented to and fro.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh… and someone else (Sylvia? I think so.) recently here expressed her worry that if he could be so wrong about Q and “Trust Sessions” vs. “Trust the Plan” what else was he wrong about?
That bit about the budget made me wonder the same thing. (E.g., he made the claim that Obola’s emergency spending bill from the first year of his administration was being spent again and again. But that’s not as easy to prove or disprove as the one I did go after, so I don’t know one way or the other.) He seemed better at digging into the Deep State Coup than dealing with the budget. But now I wonder about even that.

churchmouse

Where’s the Deep State Coup now? Still very real, just not being covered over there.
Wonder what he’ll do next year when Dems control the House.

Emeraldstar

Doppleganger?
Real, or virtual – makes no difference (to me, anyway).
The former site is the PAST, IMO. I don’t even go back to see. Not ANYTHING.
I SELF-banned – meaning, I banned THEM before they banned ME. Yay! Winning!
Wish him well, though, whoever and wherever he is …
Hashtag ‘Bye.

churchmouse

“Hashtag ‘Bye.” 🙂 “‘Bye, Felicia.”
You’ve got the right outlook. I stay too loyal for too long. Lifetime problem, having been born in the Year of the Dog.
Yes, the doppleganger effect. There was a post he wrote after the election and before the Q ban saying something to the effect of getting someone on there to express (whatever the topic was) better than he could do. So, I am seriously waking up to the possibility that he handed the blog over temporarily when I expected him to have a few guest posts instead. Notice also how he referred to the Deep State as the Administrative State. Interesting.
Emeraldstar, just out of interest, how long did you read/comment on his site?

Emeraldstar

I began reading, IIRC, a month or three after the election.
I lurked for a long time. I didn’t post until early in THIS year – after quite a long time just reading.
I left before many others, though! Hah!
Have a wonderful Thanksgiving churchmouse! I remember YOU … lol!

pgroup

Regarding the renewal of the porkulus (800 billion to start), the proof is where you’d expect it would be – in the continuing resolutions (CR). If it is continuing, then nothing changes. BTW, there’s a 8% annual COLA built in to all funding resolutions. So every year it is refunded and every year it gets another 8% tacked on.
It’s not a mystery.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In case it wasn’t clear; I didn’t argue against SDs porkulus theory back then, I merely began to question it later because of the other really rather elementary flub he pulled in the post I’m thinking about.
But there’s no time like the present to actually look into the porkulus-is-continuing theory. And once I do so, I discount it as well.
http://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_usxbudget_history.htm
That’s basically a top level spreadsheet of government spending, receipts, outlays, then broken down between on and off budget items.
It does indeed show a 500 billion or so spending step-up (from 2982 to 3517 billion) between 2008 and 2009. BUT, that was the bank bailout in October 2008, which is part of FY 2009. That SHOULD have gone down, however, the next year, and that, I think is when the porkulus took over (If I recall correctly it was part of FY 2010). And it never dropped off, but then, it didn’t continue to increase that much either, spending for the next few years was actually in a fairly tight range and sometimes even went down from one year to the next. In 2013, outlays were 3454 billion, which is actually less than 2009.
So I’d say the spendulus theory is at best only partially true. The fact that spending clearly didn’t grow at an 8 percent rate tells me the spendulus gradually disappeared. For that matter, it was supposedly 900 billion and a jump of that size never showed up in the first place.
Maybe these numbers are fake. If so I welcome a better source.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Huh…I wrote a rather lengthy reply to this which seems to have disappeared.
It started out with me clarifying (just in case it wasn’t clear) that I didn’t originally question the porkulus statements, rather it was a different issue, one where SD’s error was big and gaping.
As part of the post that just disappeared, I then went on to look into the porkulus theory and found it, too is wanting. I saw a 500 billion uptick in spending going from 2008-2009, which represented the bank bailout. Spending continued at about that level the next year (FY 10), which presumably is a result of the porkulus from FY10, since the bailout was over. Except that the porkulus was supposedly 900 billion not 500 billion! Spending moved around within a 200 billion dollar range but was actually LOWER in 2013 than it was in 2010. Everything after that on the site was an estimate, so I disregarded it.
In any case, I saw no evidence of a 900 billion dollar bloat that continued to go up 8 percent a year, though there was maybe 400 billion that should have gone away but didn’t.
Here’s the site I used:
http://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_usxbudget_history.htm
If you have a better one, with more recent data, I’d love to see it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

OK my original post showed up. Disregard.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, that’s probably it. It’s right above the one I replied to if you want to check.
Wonder why it got caught in that net?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I only had the one link though, so…huh?

andrew1979

that feeling when you had to call your mom and say “hey mom, you know that pretty safe conservative website i sent you a link to that you’ve been checking out? well, about that…”
facepalm.

A.D. Everard

Ouch! Hadn’t thought of that!

A.D. Everard

Thoughts and just my opinion, okay? No one has to agree.
I’m thinking it’s either an ego thing with SD or his mask has slipped and he was running some kind of controlled opposition, keeping all the Deplorables together where it was easier to monitor rogue thoughts.
I know, I know, probably not, but it is weird that his mods are all in on it and banning people at the drop of a hat instead of trying to talk him off the ledge. It seems none of them a bothered by the troll takeover and now, I hear, there’s even anti-Trump rants in comments.
I keep thinking that he/they thought to lead us somewhere (away from Q to name one), but, as I have said elsewhere, discovered that free-thinkers herd like cats and we couldn’t be controlled.
Regarding Q, he said to trust him on that and it would all become clear in a few days. Has any of it come clear? No. He seemed to go off the rails is what happened, as near as I can tell because people continued to talk about Q – on a completely different site! WTF? I thought only the Left demanded obedience in all things.

churchmouse

‘WTF? I thought only the Left demanded obedience in all things.’ THIS x1000!
Thank you for a superb analysis, especially the final paragraph, which hits the nail firmly on the head.
‘Regarding Q, he said to trust him on that and it would all become clear in a few days. Has any of it come clear? No.’ Exactly. Q hasn’t even commented lately and took a hiatus during the run up to the mid-terms. Therefore, it was odd to take issue with Q.
‘I’m thinking it’s either an ego thing with SD or his mask has slipped and he was running some kind of controlled opposition, keeping all the Deplorables together where it was easier to monitor rogue thoughts.’ The Trumpet has said more than once that CTH was akin to controlled opposition. I’ve been reading The Trumpet (formerly Hillary is 44) regularly since 2008, and it has never been wrong. Unlike a certain notionally pro-Trump site I’ve been reading since 2016.
The Trumpet has supported GOP presidential candidates from McCain through to Trump — three election cycles. Latest post from author ‘admin’ below (who is not a Q fan, by the way). I posted the link yesterday, but it’s worth reading if you missed it then:
https://www.hillaryis44.org/2018/11/18/snake-pit-conservative-treehouse-q-anon-stacy-abrams-avenatti/

A.D. Everard

Thank you for this. I’ll check them out now. I’m always hungry for more info.

churchmouse

Oh, good.
Me, too.

pjasond

Looking at SD’s history of success with research etc, you start to build up a self image of competence etc. Your readers like you, affirm what you are doing, because it is research / evidence based ..
Then along comes Spygate, lots of clues etc. But this is a massive operation, involving the alphabets, basically all of DC, including private enterprise (MSM and others). This is one BIG tiger – very hard (impossible) for one blogger to pin down – but SD feels he is up for it, he has proven himself to his readers …
Now, along comes Q – who the “f” is this guy? No proven track record, just rocks up on the scene – treading on SD’s turf. And fair number of SD’s readers give Q credence over SD – Gotta sting, right?
I think SD’s reaction is very human AND he has partially thrown his toys out the cot. MAGA in jeopardy plus his loyal followers were not trusting HIM over some mysterious “johnny come lately”. This is an emotional / personality thing.
Just my latest attempt to rationalise …

Plain Jane

I still don’t think he’s overseeing the site.

churchmouse

Here’s another one, wheatie, from today (three likes):
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/11/20/entirely-predictable-tech-stock-devaluations-sink-u-s-aggregate-stock-market/#comment-6357366
sundance says:
November 20, 2018 at 5:07 pm
The space between.
The space between.
The space between.
The space between.
No-one understands the Space Between.
I feel like a lone traveler in the economy with no-one to talk to.
Frustrating.

wheatietoo

Wow, that’s bizarre isn’t it.
He used to rail against people speaking in riddles like that.

churchmouse

Exactly.
And then getting rid of us for following Q …
Oh, the irony. Projection much, SD?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Maybe he’s trying to satirize Q.
On the other hand I recall him puzzling a lot of people with a similar sort of thread a couple of months ago, where he laid out some totally random (it seemed) facts and expected people to figure it out. I don’t know if anyone did; I sure did not.

daughnworks247

Portland, again.
It’s always the chics with the purple hair who cause the problems.
Note: Last night, the City Council voted down taking action against these kinds of protests.

pjasond

The future is bright indeed ….

wheatietoo

She screams at them, accusing them of “violence”…while she is punching them.
That’s typical, isn’t it.

pjasond

Yup, wrong side of all the bell curves …

Chicago->Arizona

wheatietoo,
“she is punching them”
I would have blocked her slow telegraphic punches with the sharp of my elbow.
She would have displaced knuckles or a broken hand to contend with in jail 🙂

Sylvia Avery

‘It’s always the chics with the purple hair who cause the problems.’
Ha, ha, ha! You are so right!

daughnworks247

Did Twitter take down Bill Mitchell?

wheatietoo

Been seeing people tweeting about that…so apparently he’s been targeted for ‘wrong speak’?

daughnworks247

Mitchell is back.

Gudthots

And smokin’

churchmouse

Howie Carr’s show is heavy on weed (anti) today.
People cannot pass drugs tests, call in sick, get into car accidents, etc., because of pot smoking.
This state-by-state legalisation seems to be a way to turn the American citizenry into unemployable, zoned out idiots. Ergo, import hard working immigrants … Mm-hmm.

churchmouse

Exactly!

Sylvia Avery

Photos of our fab First Lady accepting the Christmas tree. She looks terrific. PDJT was, as always, very interested and affable. He patted the horses, he spoke to the wagon driver and shook hands with him. He always looks perfectly at ease no matter where he is or what he is doing. He is so comfortable in his own skin.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2018/11/19/melania-trump-kicks-off-holidays-with-michael-kors-cape/

para59r

This is the same event. When they go to the line to shake hands you can see how much FLOTUS enjoys herself, husband and audience.

The MSM never shows these moments. Instead they want you to think there’s a divide between the two while they know there isn’t.

GA/FL

Islam has made inroads in South and Central America.
Here is the result:

para59r

Meanwhile Islamist here have been lying low trying to legitimize themselves and given the low information types it’s likely working.
The pot bubbles.

GA/FL

50 something moslems elected to office in the 2018 Democrat fraud-infested elections, as I recall reading.

pjasond

Chalk up another loss for rational humanity – parents in Tasmania have to now “opt in” to have their baby’s sex recorded on birth certificates – law passed today.
How long before procreation will be just too hard? The future will look like “The Crying Game”. Have that happen a couple of times, and watch celibacy become permanent.

daughnworks247

Pjasond, please don’t take this the wrong way but I absolutely LOVE the fact that we have a member from Tasmania. I simply like to speak the name “Tasmania”.

pjasond

Hi Daughn, when we left South Africa we told everyone where we were going – “What, why do you want to go to Tanzania” was the common response 🙂 We had to clarify that we were fleeing the entire continent of Africa, and were NOT about to jump out of the pot INTO the fire.
Still can’t get used to the local critters, after frequenting Africa’s big game parks …

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It does seem as if Oz is full of all the oddball critters of the world, doesn’t it?

pjasond

My theory is that we are mirroring the animals here. They started all this gender blending – only explanation I have for the weird critters 🙂
We are just following their lead – must be something in the water. 🙂
Off to see if I’m developing a pouch …

A.D. Everard

Hey, who you lookin’ at?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Mostly marsupials. Wasn’t aimed at Treepers!

A.D. Everard

Just checking. 😀

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

…unless there’s a “Marsupials For Trump” movement I am unaware of. 😀

pgroup

Don’t shortchange us monotremes!

andrew1979

already like six states that don’t require declaration on a drivers license.

Deplorable Patriot

Anyone else watching the social media withdrawal with both FB and Instagram down today?

churchmouse

Didn’t even know. Not surprising, as I don’t use either of them.
Tell us more when you can.

Deplorable Patriot

No reason is being given, but a lot of users have hopped on Twitter to complain, I understand. It’s like a drug withdrawal, apparently.

churchmouse

That’s hilarious!
I can’t think of a stupider platform than Instagram, perfect for the developing Idiocracy.

Deplorable Patriot

I do like FB to be able to stay in touch with a lot of people. But anymore it’s been like a ghetto since conservatives aren’t allowed to have political opinions.

churchmouse

I did not mention Facebook because, even though I don’t personally like it, I can understand why people use it. Agree with the censorship point, which is another reason I dislike FB.
Instagram is largely for people who can’t read or form a coherent thought. (Okay, fine for fashion, food and interior design, but otherwise? Celine Dion’s and others creepy pix, evidently.)

para59r

Interesting insight from GWP on the effect FB had on the election. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/11/rush-limbaugh-and-glenn-reynolds-to-potus-trump-break-up-tech-monopolies-or-lose-in-2020/
Also they use that map that lays out the digital political terrain, from the CJR Social Media Study thing.
Is that a tool we ignore? Wonders if it could be used to our advantage. Actually I’m sure its being used against ours.

churchmouse

Thank you for the link — much appreciated.
I do wonder why the President hasn’t said anything about this. It’s hurting the GOP — and, ultimately, his 2020 campaign. Maybe he’s working through his top priorities and will get to this next year. I certainly hope so.

judyw

HAARP Installatioin Mapcomment image:large
The fires, hurricanes, erratic weather will continue to worsen as long as weather manipulation continues. Man can invent something with the finest of ideals, but criminals will turn it into a weapon.

Gudthots

The Celtic monks wrote legends of Saints that blessed land, water, and sky with great benefit. I believe it could be a developed skill versus a gift. And good people have long exhorted those of good will to bless and not curse.
What would happen if we took seriously the power of blessing
and practiced it like learning to create music or art?

singularZoe

So right, Judy. Happy Thanksgiving.

judyw

“What would happen…?” THIS! We bless our food before we consume it so it’s not IMHO a “stretch”….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au4qx_l8KEU
Most people first heard of Dr. Emoto in 2004 when the hit movie What The Bleep Do We Know? was released. In the documentary-style film.

Gudthots

For me, a singularly fascinating aspect of his work was how the most damaging results came from IGNORING the subject of the test (a jar of moist rice).

pgroup

Doesn’t the Beast Train run in both directions? Load up these lost caravaners and return them to their garden spots.

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pgroup

They’re hoping that DJT beheads the loser turkeys.

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Deplorable Patriot

From the beginning, that whole situation smelled.

Elizabeth Carter

judyw and thinkthinkthink
Jesus is the WORD. That is why the enemy is always working to twist, change and cast doubt by subtle changes in our words. We cannot think or understand except by the use of words.
John 1 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Matthew 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
Matthew 18:16
But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mark 16:20
And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.

andrew1979

elizabeth, spot on as usual. the enemy we are fighting is not flesh and blood. and that’s just not an empty statement i, you or any of us are making…

Gudthots

Elizabeth, another person here shared an awesome tool for formatting. [blockquote][/blockquote] (replace the square brackets with angle brackets). It allows you to give the eye breaking points to take in more than a couple of items at a time. 🙂
Like this:

In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
John 1:4

andrew1979

my daughter wanted some of the socialist pieces of junk a few years back, total heart tugging crap, but hey your daughter right? so occassionally i get these emails from them. check out their new stance.
https://www.toms.com/
donating 5 million dollars for you common sense gun laws you can’t disagree right? look at their partners.
all $oro$ sponsored (well, 75% right off the bat i can tell).
things are going to get real soon. we will be needing a license for that knife to carve the turkey.
soon we’ll only get tofurkey.

Gudthots

Some of us may relate to this brilliant man’s journey of deciding to doubt/challenge everything he had learned as a child in order to find his own set of beliefs. (Short video)
What I find most compelling about his story is how his innate kindness not only motivated him to reach out to another person in his valley of confusion, but that same trait has led him to help countless broken souls towards restoration.

Gudthots
Gudthots
Gudthots
Gudthots

#CitizenAudit

phoenixRising

for laughs of course…

Plain Jane

It’s a wonder he didn’t poop all over the People’s house again. He will though.

phoenixRising

Rosie posted this 7 minutes ago…
I’m sure in affirmation of my post to yesterday’s open thread 😉 😉
Kidding of course… still, why is Antifi classification as terrorist group being ignored by LEO?
Is it true that zero federalized all local LEO? Does that mean FBI controls local LEO?
[E/Inquiring minds want to know]

phoenixRising

zeroHedge put this up an hour ago…
Conservative ‘Proud Boys’ Labeled “Extremist Group” By FBI
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-20/proud-boys-labeled-extremist-group-fbi

churchmouse

Antifa? ‘Nothing to see here, move along.’

Deplorable Patriot

Switching email addresses for the login. Still Deplorable Patriot, though.

Deplorable Patriot

Great! Thanks.

phoenixRising

churchmouse

As the kiddos say, ‘YAASSSS!’ 🙂

pgroup

Why is judicial watch doing the heavy lifting? Tom Fitton’s biceps, of course.

Sylvia Avery

They are beautiful. 🙂

Gudthots

Ground report. Beautiful wordsmithing as usual. (Sorry Steve)
http://americandigest.org/wp/praying-for-rain-in-the-ashes-of-paradise/

phoenixRising
andrew1979

whoa what’s this?

phoenixRising

zeroHedge put this up an hour ago…
Conservative ‘Proud Boys’ Labeled “Extremist Group” By FBI
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-20/proud-boys-labeled-extremist-group-fbi

Sylvia Avery

Proud Boys aren’t extremist. Good grief. FBI can’t do anything USEFUL for us but they can do this???? SMH.

Emeraldstar

Today there have been problems with the NASDAQ site, for at least the past hour or so.
“Scheduled maintenance”, and such. I have an iMac, less than 18 months old, with all updates except the most recent one (screw their banning of conservative sites, and more, by these portrayed-as-beneficial-to us OS / software “updates”).
This type of CRAP is going to get worse, IMO.
Check it for yourselves – I’d love to hear the various feedback, from different platforms and browsers.
As the greatest context, Q said “enjoy the show”. That’s what we’re seeing, IMO. Across ALL platforms – financial, political, “journalistic”, and otherwise.
I didn’t fully anticipate the specifics of the ACTUAL skullduggery; but, having seen it so far, it seems to be PAR for the globalists’ course. In essence, they have ALL the money … and they’re using its power to effect a slow-boil. And WE are the frogs in the pot.
In the same way as the pundits were forecasting total doom for Brexit – to forestall it, and nothing more – so the US programmed action will be the same. When we don’t give in to their doom-saying, then I expect the actual result will be the opposite of what they SAY their crystal-balls show.
We need to last AT LEAST until the new year, IMO! Stay strong, hold the course – from what I’ve read, from more-truthful-than-not sites that are still “up”, we can weather the financial storm. Only IMO again, of course! (boiler-plate verbiage, as I hope everyone understands!)
It’s getting realer, and realer … and in the end, it’ll be REALIST (we win!).
MAGA! And Happy Thanksgiving to ALL!

phoenixRising

zero, brennan and Samatha Powers are all over twitter and MSM undermining POTUS
w/ all that flack, someone must be over the target, right?

Emeraldstar

Of course.
And heading toward the finale … with PLENTY of fireworks for ALL!
THEY. ARE. TARGETED.
(And they know it!)
Happy Thanksgiving, Phoenix!

phoenixRising

Happy Thanksgiving to you Emeraldstar…

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GA/FL

YOU GO, Mr. President!!!
PDJT makes me grin EVERY single day!

Sylvia Avery

Oh boy, me too!

phoenixRising

A.D. Everard

Thank you, Phoenix, that was good.

phoenixRising

andrew1979

4 pages, landscape format. 85 font.
Go Fuck Your Self.

A.D. Everard

LOL. 😀

phoenixRising

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SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A couple of format suggestions (I wanted to send these privately, but the contact page says you don’t want that, so here goes):
1. Change the post times to 24 hour format (e.g, 16:33 not 4:44pm). That makes it easier to search for new comments by searching for the hour (e.g, searching for “at 16:” instead of “at 4:”–the later brings up stuff that happened at 4 AM as well as at 4PM, and today that means wading through all that Celine Dion sewage again…yuck!!!).
Also, this site is totally unusable on my phone, apparently 7 indent levels is more than mobile can handle, and it behaves the same in both portrait and landscape. On the Old Tree there was an option to switch to the full site, but I can’t find one here (and it may not fix the problem anyway).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

(BTW the only reason I preferred the “full site” on the Old TreeHouse when I was mobile, was that the mobile site would only let you go to the previous page of comments by first scrolling allllll the waaaaaaay dowwwwwwn to the bottom to find the button there. Whereas the full site had “previous comments” links above and below the comments.)

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Fair enough.
Also the full site thing (and levels of indent not working on mobile) could just depend on what design template you use (i.e. the look you chose for this site).

phoenixRising

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https://twitter.com/Micksmi86529807/status/1065033411503493121
https://twitter.com/stacgost/status/1065033848214482944

phoenixRising

https://twitter.com/PHittesdorf/status/1065033714143358978
PM has a periscope up — I highly recommend

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m sorry but I’m apparently too dense to make a connection.
Q posts a bunch of six digit numbers and those somehow connect to the fraud in LaLa County? How?

phoenixRising

Steve,
I understand from your earlier comments that you have not followed Q, not interested in Q, etc.
If you were interested, I would direct you to any number of THREADS that might help get you started. I don’t mean to be rude, but it is not my intent in this life anyway to try and dissuade another from their pov.
I bring info… if you want it, fine. If not, that’s also fine.
—————————
For Q followers,
I neglected to mention that clicking on any one of PM’s tweets will give a small THREAD… twitter users know that, but many here do not tweet… (myself included !)
Additionally, PM’s periscope is tying together two of Q’s earlier drops regarding voter fraud…
note the tweet stating that the arrests are in Maxine’s District… I failed to pick up on that earlier, glad to know!
will be interesting to discover who the 9 people are… peons, I’m sure, right?

churchmouse

Those are the links to the 8chan comments. When you visit one of the Q sites (message drop compendiums), you can link on them. I’ve linked one of the Q sites below. Click on a numbered link and you’ll go straight to the relevant 8chan thread for the posters’ messages. Hover your cursor over them or click ‘Open link in new tab’ to see a message:
https://qanon.pub/
Bottom line, from Q: there are no coincidences. California –> voter fraud.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ah. Perhaps I read too much into it; I was imagining the numbers were intended to be some sort of proof Q know these specific arrests were going down and had signaled it somehow in a prior message–and now he was pointing it out (sort of a “see, I told you this would happen”)
If specific and unambiguous enough it’d pretty much convince me he has connections somewhere.
On a slightly wider note–people getting busted for voter fraud in LaLa land could turn out to be huge, especially if these nine dirtbags lead to LOTS more, and double especially if some of those LOTS mores turn out to be highly placed Dem officials.

churchmouse

‘… sort of a “see, I told you this would happen” …) Yes, indirectly, but not specifically relating to that news item.
Q does have connections and/or is probably in intelligence himself. Supposedly, it’s a small team (you can count them on your fingers) close to the administration.
‘… people getting busted for voter fraud in LaLa land could turn out to be huge …’ We’ve got to hope Whitaker and DHS will order a forensic (i.e. deep) investigation. Very important for 2020. Our team has to start now.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Indeed.
Somewhere, maybe here, maybe the Old Tree House, I read an interesting suggestion: that Obola had pardoned all the prior fraud. So we had to let them commit fraud this time around in order to have crimes to prosecute.
And it’s starting to look as if, indeed, some traps have been laid.

Deplorable Patriot

Those are previous postings on 8chan which Q is either commenting on or answering.
There are no coincidences.

wheatietoo

Those six-digit numbers are merely ‘replies’ from the Anons…it’s how the replies are numbered on that site.
Q didn’t post those.
Those numbers appear automatically, whenever someone replies to a post…anyone’s post…on that site.

phoenixRising
phoenixRising
zoontexas

And if the church is a 501c3 then they have a second reason not to be turned down.

Emeraldstar

TO EVERYONE HERE …
To you, Wheatie, and to Phoenix, and to Sylvia, to church, Linda, Filly, Elizabeth, Jane, Mystic, AD E, Judy, Daughn, ttt, Need2, Para, Andrew, Scott, Steve, Jason “Taz”, DepPat, ChiAz, GA/FL (hello!), Flep, and to ALL OTHERS (my spot-memory is maxed out!) who’ve made this site such a pleasure – and especially to Wolfmoon (“three” is key, btw!) –
HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!
Catch y’all on the flip-side …
Emeraldstar

churchmouse

Thank you, Emeraldstar! 🙂
I wish you and yours a very happy, safe — and blessed — Thanksgiving!

MysticRose80

Aww…thanks, Emeraldstar! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your loved ones 🙂.

wheatietoo

Thanks, Em-star!
And a very Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!

Linda

Same to you, Emeraldstar.

GA/FL

Happy Thanksgiving blessings to you and all your folks, Emeraldstar!

singularZoe

Have a blessed Tjanksgiving, GA/FLA

GA/FL

And the same to you – good food – sweet fellowship – happy memories – and no calories sticking to ya except where needed! :8->

singularZoe

Thank you. After we have TG dinner we are going to visit my cousin, Jim, in hospital. He was run over by a car in a hit and run Saturday evening. He has two broken legs and broken ribs, and they operated on the second leg today. They had him up on it after the first operation–they did not realize it was broken. He has no insurance. Please pray for him if you can. Thank you. I normally wouldn’t ask on here, but this is really sad.

A.D. Everard

Thank you, Emeraldstar. Happy thanksgiving! Hey, have some turkey for me, will ya, but no Peas or Carrots, right? Ha! All the best to you and yours. 🙂

Sylvia Avery

Hoping you have a wonderful holiday, Emeraldstar!

churchmouse

I do feel for President Trump every day, but especially before he takes a well-deserved Thanksgiving break.
Here he gives a press conference where he has to explain why he’s not breaking ties with Saudi Arabia (should be perfectly obvious, but not to the wicked media) and how Ivanka’s occasional use of a personal email account for work (CNN story, obvs) is not the same as Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 emails on the infamous server.
He starts by saying that he has lost a lot of money — and said that he would tell us someday how much — being president but added that he knew that from the start.
May God bless him and his family forever. Prayers up for all of the Trumps:

wheatietoo

I’m so glad they’re going to Mar A Lago for a while.
But knowing our VSG President…he will still be working, like he always does.
Hopefully he can get a little bit of rest and relaxation, though, in between meetings and phone calls.
His hotels and properties have been under attack.
The globalists have been trying to punish him and his family…in every underhanded way that they can think of.
I suspect that they’ve been trying to force him to stop what he’s doing.
Telling him they will stop it, if he stops the trade deals, tariffs and upcoming prosecutions.
That’s what he meant when he said…”No deals”.
We love you, Mr. President!
Best President Ever.

wheatietoo

And that’s his Real Color right there…out in the sunlight, with no ‘color filters’ added to make him look orange.
He is Not Orange!

churchmouse

‘That’s what he meant when he said…”No deals”.’ Indeed.

GA/FL

FOOD SAFETY ALERT re: Romaine Lettuce
CDC – https://www.cdc.gov/ecoli/2018/o157h7-11-18/index.html
This is evidently a pretty severe form of E coli.
November 20 at 2:51 PM
Romaine lettuce is unsafe to eat in any form, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday in a broad alert in response to a new outbreak of illnesses caused by a particularly dangerous type of E. coli contamination.
The CDC told consumers to throw away any romaine lettuce they may already have purchased. Restaurants should not serve it, stores should not sell it, and people should not buy it, no matter where or when the lettuce was grown. It doesn’t matter if it is chopped, whole head or part of a mix. All romaine should be avoided.

E coli can’t be washed off the lettuce according to this article:
https://www.businessinsider.com/can-you-wash-e-coli-off-romaine-lettuce-2018-4
“Washing the greens is not enough to remove E. coli bacteria, according to a recent study.
“Why washing won’t work
Although washing produce can reduce some contamination, it doesn’t kill bacteria, so unfortunately won’t eliminate the risk. Once E. coli bacteria make their way onto lettuce, they are able to fill tiny cracks and crevices all over a leaf. And even a small number of E. coli bacteria are enough to get people sick.
“In a recent study, researchers tried washing E. coli off of romaine lettuce and other leafy greens. They found that a powerful wash was able to remove some bacteria from lettuce, but it didn’t significantly reduce the quantities of E. coli — and enough remained to make people sick.
If you’ve got romaine lettuce in your refrigerator, throw it out — and then give the fridge a good scrub, ideally with bleach.”

Washing lettuce – https://www.wikihow.com/Wash-Lettuce (vinegar in water can help remove some bacteria)
Washing Produce – https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/lettuce-learn-wash-produce-properly

GA/FL

Sorry for the trouble – I won’t make that mistake again – will split up the links in separate comments or deactivate them.

wheatietoo

Hmm…deactivating some of the links might work.
I’ve never tried that.
The ‘magic number’ seems to be 3 links per comment, though.
Any more than that…and WP puts you in ‘moderation’.
It’s happened to me, too.
So it’s safer to just split up your comment, and put no more than 3 links in each part.

GA/FL

It’s just as easy to deactivate the links with a (dot) instead of a period. I just wasn’t thinking….too concerned about the alert/danger.

Deplorable Patriot

Wondering if I should chuck the bibb lettuce in the fridge since it was in the same case as the Romaine.

Sylvia Avery

I would. Just to be safe. None of us wants this e coli. It is bad.

Gudthots

Local organic producers of Romaine lettuce could be put out of business due to this kind of blanket pronouncement. Understand the severity of the problem, but can forsee negative consequences for some good small family businesses.

GA/FL

It’s because they haven’t traced the problem to the source/field/grower yet.

Sylvia Avery

I love romaine. Sigh. The shelves were bare today all emptied of romaine. Not that I was going to buy any under the circumstances, but I am feeling a little grieved.

GA/FL

I love it too – it keeps longer than any other lettuce, esp. in my spinner/refrigerator contraption.

singularZoe

I like romaine, and I’m allergic to iceberg, which I dislike anyway.

GA/FL

Wonder what the difference in the chemicals of the two lettuces are that cause your allergy?
Also, I have never heard of an iceberg lettuce E coli recall.
Very Interesting.

singularZoe

Regarding chemical difference, wish I knew.

GA/FL

Oops – I posted a comment with too many live links evidently. Sorry.

pgroup

Yep, I’ve joined the CTH Banned Club. And I didn’t even have to apply.

GA/FL

Do you know why?

Sylvia Avery

Sorry. You must have been associating with known….bannees? Hanging out at the Tree of the Banned?
It is kind of aggravating, isn’t it? But we will wear our war wounds like crowns.

wheatietoo

Oh brother…Lindsey Graham is on Hannity right now; they’re discussing the Invasion at the border.
Lindsey says that he will be introducing a Bill in the next Congress…that will make illegals ineligible for Asylum, if they come here illegally.
The “next” Congress?
How about now, Lindsey…do it NOW!
There is no frigging way that the Dem-controlled House would ever pass a bill like that.
And Lindsey knows it.

singularZoe

Grandstanding, fake, in my opinion. I don’t trust him at all.

Linda

Yes, he’s making me question the good will I’ve had for him lately. Doing it later is the uniparty way. Doing it now might get something done.
Incidentally, I’ve FINALLY been banned from CTH. Not sure why it took so long, I haven’t commented since my comments to SD the other day (was that yesterday?) If he wanted to ban me, why not then? Why days later when I haven’t been commenting. Or did he come over here and read the discussion about that? (Ha ha ha, if he did).

wheatietoo

Lindsey even got all holier-than-thou in a tweet today, criticizing PDJT’s stance on the Prince MBS thing.
So I’m right there with you, in losing the ‘good will’ I’ve had recently for Lindsey.
He is going back to being a Uniparty weasel.

Gudthots

Or he is playing a role on the behalf of MAGA.

wheatietoo

Yep, good question.
Q has said that we are “watching a movie”…so, yeah…Lindsey may be playing a role.

Sylvia Avery

Sorry, Linda. But at least you got to go out with a bang and not a whimper! Nice closing argument!

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, BUT, and this is a big part of the president’s needs, the Senate needs to fill all those judicial vacancies ASAP. The agenda may well be full.
Plus, if he introduces it in the next Congress, and the Dems in the House submarine, sink or vote down such a bill, it becomes a campaign issue.

Deplorable Patriot

Campaign issue for 2020.

wheatietoo

New Q posts, Wolfie…have you seen them?

Deplorable Patriot

It looks like it’s being filtered. May have to change emails again.

Deplorable Patriot

No validation email in either inbox or spam.

wheatietoo

Those are good points, D’ble Patriot.
Thanks.

Linda

Yay! 2 new Q posts. They’re not showing up yet on all the aggregators. I got them at this one: https://QNTMPKTS.KEYBASE.PUB
This is the first one:
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 6e0a05 No.3978190 📁
Nov 20 2018 21:42:33 (EST)
https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/417761-house-gop-to-hold-hearing-into-dojs-probe-of-clinton-foundation📁
[D]ec 5
D5
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Nothing.
This election was not about fixing the economy, trade, borders, military, protecting our children etc. all so another corrupt politician or ‘insider’ can simply undo it [band-aid].
This was not simply another 4-year election, but, a crossroads in the history of our civilization that will determine whether or not, WE, THE PEOPLE, reclaim control over our gov’t.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ📁
Panic in DC.
Q
Here is the 2nd one:
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 6e0a05 No.3978509 📁
Nov 20 2018 22:00:31 (EST)
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1065067172429529088📁
TOGETHER WE WIN.
Attacks on WHITAKER will only intensify.
SENATE WAS THE TARGET.
53-47
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-senate-committees/senate-judiciary-chair-grassleys-move-to-leave-key-opening-idUSKCN1NL231📁
Q

Linda

Uh oh. I just got thrown into moderation. Probably because of the links in the Q posts. Help, Mr. Wolf!

wheatietoo

Q is back!
He linked to this tweet in one of new posts:
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1065067172429529088
.
Lisa Mei is getting barraged with “Q sent me” replies.
Heheh.
Well, good for her…I like Lisa Mei Crowley.
She posted this tweet afterward:
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1065080382448635906

wheatietoo

This was truncated out of her above tweet:comment image

wheatietoo

Q mentioning Whitaker…
This is going to piss of the Whitaker-haters over at that place we don’t go anymore.
Haaaa.

Linda

I’m glad you posted Qs posts via Lisa Mei, Wheatie. I posted both of them above and they are in moderation. Too many links I think.

wheatietoo

Wolf will prolly get them out soon…but I think he’s working on another blog-post right now.
🙂

Linda

No problem – you got the posts out there.

andrew1979

this reaction right here to why people of like minds work together for good!
no posing for a selfie, no like demands, no being pissed because not first… i love it.

Sylvia Avery

Maybe. But none of them read Q or bother to try to understand, so they may not know anything about it. Fools.

phoenixRising

wheatietoo

And Q posted to the main board at Qresearch, instead of using his PatriotsFight board where no replies are allowed.
The Anons are going nuts…tons of replies to him, hitting all at once.
It’s fun to watch.
Another new Q-post:
______
Nov 20 2018
2496
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: df1a06 No.3979646
Nov 20 2018 23:04:59 (EST) NEW
Panic in DC
Did Whitaker remove [SC] ‘special articles’ inserted by [RR] re: expanded scope v2?
Was the scope narrowed to the original mandate assigned?
Item used when walking a dog?
Q
_______
Hmm…this one has a different ID-code number.
I’m sure the Anons will notice and mention it…there are so many replies happening there right now, it’s impossible to keep up.

Sylvia Avery

What does this mean? special articles? walking the dog??????
Oh, boy!

Linda

He just posted again:
Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: df1a06 No.3979646 📁
Nov 20 2018 23:04:59 (EST)
Panic in DC
Did Whitaker remove [SC] ‘special articles’ inserted by [RR] re: expanded scope v2?
Was the scope narrowed to the original mandate assigned?
Item used when walking a dog?
Q

Linda

If Whitaker has already done that, that’s a real bombshell.

wheatietoo

This will serve as another Q-proof, when/if it becomes known ‘for sure’ that Whitaker has done this.
Will the Whitaker-haters see this Q post and use it to demand to know if Whitaker has done this?
It wouldn’t surprise me, since they don’t seem to care about hurting the White Hats.

wheatietoo

Heheh…I should’ve refreshed before I posted above.
Is Q saying that Whitaker has put Mueller on a “leash”?
What else could he be referring to…
A pooper-scooper?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The pooper scooper is for Adam Schitt.

wheatietoo

Heheh.

Linda

Ha ha ha! Love how you think, Steve.

Deplorable Patriot

Item used when walking a dog?
Saw this and thought, “A $#@! bag?” Oh, wait. I think Q means a leash.

phoenixRising
SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Well, Hooooleeeeee Schitt!
I was just able to comment on the Old Tree House.
I guess at some point they rescinded my ban.

wheatietoo

Uh oh…what did you do.
Did you roll a grenade into the place?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Naah, I went to the bottom of the Kirsjen Nielsen thread and wrote “Sounds good. Let’s see what happens.”
I did this after successfully liking a (semi random) post.

wheatietoo

“Let’s see what happens.” <— Haaaa.
I see what you did there.
😀

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

You caught that, eh?
Didn’t realize I’d done it myself…until I typed it over here.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Speaking of grenades:
Someone–a retired FBI guy, in fact–told me he had gone to some sort of training, and the guy started off by writing:
B
KB
KFB
on the blackboard, and then saying, “There are three different kinds of explosions. ‘Boom!’ ‘Kaboom!!’ and ‘KaF*ckingBoom!!!'”
I don’t want BOOM. I want KAF*CKINGBOOM!

wheatietoo

Here, here…me too!

pjasond

I tried to like your comment “over there’ – nada. Just for fun, I liked as a blogger in the new Huber thread – before any comments – it worked!!!!!!!!!! Nah, not really excited, just messing with them.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

As I understand it, Q is saying something Big, Game Changing is going to happen on Dec 5?
Well, let’s hope so.

wheatietoo

Yes, let’s hope so.
Q has often used “D5” in his posts.
People have speculated about what that is a reference to:
— D5 = the highest level for an avalanche.
— D5 = Pres Trump, since the letter D is the 4th letter, so – 45.
Dec 5th is when Huber testifies before Congress.
Fireworks?
We can only hope…but wouldn’t it be glorious.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

OK, that supplies some context.
I, as of right now, doubt it could mean precisely that. There is simply NO WAY he could have predicted this months and months in advance. Unless the House scheduled this months and months in advance and told him about it. Which would imply the house committee chair (Nunes?) is in on it.

pjasond

Nunes was in the transition team, was he not. They moved out of Trump tower because of Spygate – do the math …
I think a detailed plan was formulated, Session, Nunes Giuliani, etc …

andrew1979

the numbers add up.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In the transition team? They probably demanded he recuse himself.
OK, let’s assume for the sake of argument that Nunes scheduled the thing for December 5, and that’s what D5 has meant all along. That leads to two things:
1) the meeting HAS to have been scheduled before Q’s first use of D5. Which wasn’t necessarily clear back to Trump tower days (I’m thinking sometime in the last six-nine months, but someone well versed in Q lore can probably look it up). I’d have a very hard time believing Trump tower days, because it’s just humanly impossible to look two years ahead and know that you’ll be ready to do this on that date. Hell, a weather event could muck things up.
2) This much forewarning says this is a Big Deal. A BIG DEAL. Utterly game changing. Not just a typical testimony that leads to a couple of days noise on the TreeHouses, then nothing. Well, if that doesn’t happen, some guesses are going to look pretty silly.

pjasond

I am fine with silly since no one can see all the egg on my face already 🙂
If you find out as POTUS elect that the current admin is currently spying on you, what do you do. Nothing is not an option for DJT.
One of the guys I would want on my team is a heavy hitter, say a chairman of an oversight committee with extra power to inspect classified mat’l.
The long term coord is a stretch, but I am not ruling it out. My answer was in response to your point about Nunes – history says that it is possible, since he was on the trans team. What actually happened. Don’t know, but speculation is fun, and risk free.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I am fine with silly since no one can see all the egg on my face already 🙂
Since you’re busy walking around upside down, the egg probably fell off and landed on the ceiling. 😀

Linda

It couldn’t have been planned that far back, Steve, since no one knew that Sessions would end up having to recuse himself, which is why he appointed Huber. They wouldn’t have known at that point that Huber would be involved – or would they? That would really be stretching it. I don’t recall when Q first started using D5, but I think it’s only been this year.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes, precisely.

andrew1979

lets not get all carried away…yet 🙂
i want to know two things:
was ted stevens pretty much a good guy other than minimal palm greasing? the the minute if heard it pretty much live on cspan there is not one day that has passed without me replaying over the clip burned into my brain of ted stevens (rip) declaring that the internet is not juat a big truck you can keep dumping stuff on. the internet is in fact a series of tubes. and then all hell broke loose to shut this guy up… oh yeah in the year 2008 no less. they set him up. ne lost his reelection bid after being convicted. oops conviction overturned. dead within 2 years. he was c
targeted spied on fbi drummed up evidence… go to the wikipedia for ted stevens. whole thing is good but the sections under “TRIAL CONVICTION AND REVERSAL are worth it jjst to see the actions list of names etc. so just kind of a interesting character to revisit. he was hated by a lot of people.
and second – nunes tractor collection. is that real or a sears portrait studio backdrop? i will never forget nunes face when he met the press on that stairwell on that march day. looking kind of pale it seemed. frantic. he had news was he about to out trump and confirm trump as putins puppet? no. to the contrary he said some things that well… if you dare go to this link to read will amaze you to see the page still is there…
https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-devin-nunes-talking-about-guide-perplexed
let me give you a salty preview of the brilliance contained within:
_____________________
Does any of this vindicate or validate Donald Trump’s claims that President Obama wiretapped him?
Answer: Not even close—even assuming that the most flamboyant version of Nunes’s comments are wholly true.
Trump did not wake up early on a Saturday morning and tweet that the NSA or FBI in the course of its normal foreign intelligence operations incidentally intercepted communications or data involving the Trump transition. He didn’t allege that communications were intercepted legally. And he didn’t allege either that the problem—if there is a problem—lay in the masking or unmasking of U.S. persons in lawful intelligence community reporting.
Trump alleged, rather, (1) that his own wires were tapped—with two p’s, no less, (2) that a specific facility in the United States (Trump Tower) and that he personally were specifically targeted for collection, (3) that the surveillance was illegal, (4) that it took place during the campaign, and (5) that it was all ordered by his predecessor, Barack Hussein Obama.
All of those claims appeared to be malicious lies when he made them. And nothing that Nunes is saying, even if it’s all true, supports any of them.
___________________
this next couple months is going to be good 🙂

singularZoe

Well, Andrew, I have been interested in Se. Stevens for a long time, but I could not access the Lawfare blog, it told me to wait “a moment” it was checking my browser. After I waited about 15 (doing something else) I gave up.

Gudthots

We are going to see this come out…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Will it come out in such a way as to upend many of those oh-so-close squeaker victories? That HAS to happen before January 3, after that they’re seated Congresspukes and it’s too late to challenge them.

wheatietoo

Too late?
Well, we don’t know that.
We live in interesting times…and if we follow the lead of the Dems about ‘elections, then we can declare those ‘wins’ as….”Illegitimate!!!!11!!! – eleventy!!11!!!”
How do we know that those Dems who ‘won’ were not “colluding” with…Russians!
Or colluded with…illegals…who are foreigners too.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes…but. The House and Senate would have to vote to remove the cheaters, once they are seated. Once seated, over in the House they become part of the democratic majority, which isn’t going to want to blunt its own power.
And the Yellow Stream Media will cover for them.

wheatietoo

If there is evidence that those races were won by fraudulent means…then the candidates who Lost, can demand another election.
Hopefully they will!
If the elections were proven to be ‘fraudulent’, then it is a Federal matter.
Let’s see what happens.
😀

pjasond

Why ever are you being so pessimistic? 🙂
One would swear that things haven’t been going swimmingly …. Oh right, never mind

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Actually pushing a voter fraud allegation that hard has never, in my lifetime actually happened. Trump is a gamechanger to be sure, but has he managed to change even this?

pjasond

I was pulling your leg – will have to improve on this, not one of my strengths 🙂

Sylvia Avery

Oh boy, I hope so!!!! I think I’d die with a smile on my face right then and there.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Don’t, you’ll want to enjoy the fallout. Besides if you kick the bucket, who will I have to pick on?

andrew1979

this whole country – all of us – need a huuuuge timeout! the proverbial referees whiatle needs to blowand we need to stop and listen and take an introspective moment to adjust to the fact that things are going to need to change. we are not to go back. lessons need to be learned and explained. all will learn from this i can only hope.

Gudthots
wheatietoo

Hah!
I love how our VSG President ‘kicks the nest’.
He’s having fun there.

Sylvia Avery

And he SCORES!

Sylvia Avery

Yes, he is. Deservedly so. And you know what? I’m having fun watching him! I love this man!

Linda

That’s not POTUS’ real account, thinkthinkthink.

Gudthots

Woah. My bad. It was so in character I didn’t check. Lesson learned. Thank you Linda.

GA/FL

That isn’t the REAL @realDonaldTrump twitter feed.

Gudthots

Huh.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Interesting. (I gather she was being pushed as the main alternative to Pel*si.)
Maybe Trump is actually going to get the Rs to deliver her some votes.

Gudthots

Just him offering to help may put a wet blanket on any moves to push her aside.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Indeed. A bunch of Rs who might as well do it, since they know they can’t put whatsisname-it-ain’t-Jordan in there, is an effectively bottomless pool of votes.

churchmouse

But, wait. There’s more:

Gudthots

Excellent.

wheatietoo

Love it!
That must be a touchdown…since the ref’s arms are up in the air?
Looks like Mueller on the ground. Heheh.

Gudthots
Gudthots
A Fortiori (@AFortiori16)

This does need further discussion. I am old enough to remember when Wisconsin Senator William Proxmire fought to prevent the consolidation of banks in the US into mega banks (they consolidated after he retired).
This crap, and Operation Choke Point (when the feds pressured banks to stop lending to gun manufacturers) is only possible with monopolies.

Gudthots

Postal Service has a purpose in the minds of the framers of the Constitution.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

This is the first GOOD argument I’ve heard for keeping the Post Office.
As an aside, I’ll point out that just because Congress was authorized to run a post office, doesn’t mean it HAS to. Furthermore, I don’t see constitutional justification for Congress banning private competition either (which they did, for first class mail).

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m starting to look like a genius, even to “regular” people, for my curmudgeonly refusal to sign up for Faceborg and Twit-R.

wheatietoo

We may have to go back to snail mail, land lines and fax machines.
That’s pretty much all we had to work with, when we took the House in 1994.
I had a cellphone back then…but it was clunky and a lot of people didn’t have them yet.
This is why I have always been against ‘privatizing’ the US Postal System.
We already have private alternatives such as Fedex and UPS…we need to keep a means that makes it a Fed Crime to tamper with.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Hah, that reminds me of something I read once.
Apparently, felons who are released from prison and can’t find a job because they’re felons (we need to do something about that, by the way–it encourages recidivism) sometimes will get so desperate they will deliberately commit a crime to go to prison.
Often, they’ll throw a brick through a post office window. A minor, relatively harmless act but it has a huge sentence on it. That way they go to the Federal penitentiary which is usually somewhat better than the state ones.

phoenixRising

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

OK…It looks like my comment on the Old Tree House got deleted. And I couldn’t like someone’s post, either. Evidently someone over there noticed and said, “Oh schitt, he’s not supposed to be here.”

pjasond

Whew, the new normal is back. The old normal becoming normal again would have messed with you!! 🙂

Gudthots

All over again.comment image

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

This brings up a serious point.
Let’s assume there is A Plan.
I doubt that it could be full of exacting detail. That would require clairvoyance. After all, you don’t know how the enemy is going to respond. You also don’t know who on your team will turn on you (or for that matter, who on their team will decide they want a clear conscience and turn on them). Even a major hurricane hitting DC could fubar a precisely scheduled plan. Or how an election is going to turn out. Or the wrong person could die.
And let’s face it, you could get outmaneuvered somewhere and need to regroup (which is what I think the Sessions recusal was–and now we should be seeing the results of the regroup).
So I don’t think it is precisely scheduled, but I think it would have a lot of adapting and improvising.
Thus, most of the time it’s impossible to predict dates of events far in advance.

Sylvia Avery

I just love this graphic. I was thinking about it again today on my walk. Love it.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, it should be immediately above JusticeWarrior at 11:47 PM.

wheatietoo

Wow…they deleted that post?
There is no legitimate reason for that post to have been deleted!
Well…other than the fact that you are one of ‘us’.
This means that they actually *are* lurking here and reading what we’re saying.
Hi Sundance.
waves

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Sundance:
Not because you banned me–I can understand you banning me–but because of the schitty way you’ve been treating other regulars at your site…I wave at you. With one finger. Guess which one.

Gudthots