America continues its march toward its own destruction.
On January 22, 2019, Democrat Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed into law the “Reproductive Health Act” – upon signing the bill, he stated:
“With the signing of this bill, we are sending a clear message that whatever happens in Washington, women in New York will always have the fundamental right to control their own body.”
No, Governor Cuomo, the only clear message you’re sending is that New York legislators, and you, are completely bankrupt of morality. You’ve now joined the infamous club of people who commit crimes against humanity.
Only a few days previous to the 46th Anniversary of Roe v Wade, I had written this article, “Silent Scream, Genocide of the Unborn” – not realizing how prophetic it was. Indeed, we’ve known this country has been moving forward in its zealousness to kill the unborn at will, without restraint, without examination of conscience, without a second thought – to cut up, suck out, or as now in New York State, to terminate by lethal injection. Logic and irony fail to make headway in rabid pro-abortionists’ thinking – New York state does not allow the death penalty, but have now set in motion the means for which babies up to and including the moment of birth can be killed under the guise of a “woman’s right to control their own body.”
Lethal injection is the injection of toxic, poisonous chemicals into the human body, with the intent to cause death, cessation of life. In capital punishment cases where lethal injection is used, the person is sedated, and basically put to sleep, and they don’t wake up. Perhaps a few minutes of struggle for breath, then they’re gone.
In the new law in New York State, they’re going to use a lethal injection poison that kills the baby over 24, even as long as 48 hours, and then the woman will deliver a dead baby. A baby who was tortured in a barbaric manner before it could even draw its first breath of life. It lasts longer than the partial-birth abortion or the born alive abortions.
How cruel and unusual a punishment is that? How barbaric, that an innocent life, who has never once had the opportunity for “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness” is tortured, all because it is inconvenient.
In 1983, on the Tenth Anniversary of Roe v Wade, President Ronald Reagan wrote an essay, “Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation.” Read it, it’s an extraordinary and profound statement about what 10 years of Roe v Wade had caused since that infamous ruling. Reagan makes several important points, including the most important one, not only about “when does life begin” but “what value does a human life” have.
At the time of Reagan’s essay, in the 10 year period since the Supreme Court allowed abortion, (by then it had been expanded into the 3rd trimester) the country had already killed 15 million of its babies. In the 46 years since Roe v Wade, America has killed 61 million of her unborn. President Reagan would be shocked that we had not undone Roe v Wade.
What drives modern man, who has advanced medical science at its fingertips to save lives, to cure diseases, to promote health, to develop medicines that improve billions of human beings’ lives, to turn around and deliberately murder the most vulnerable, the most innocent of all of God’s creatures, an unborn child?
What value is a human life?
The 20th century saw two world wars, numerous undeclared armed conflicts, and the death of millions ordered by dictators, communist and fascist. The very idea of deliberately killing the unwanted child or inconvenient child tracks into the same mindset that drove Nazi Germany to wantonly kill any undesirables in their society. By the time the Third Reich fell, 6 million Jews and 5 million “others” had been intentionally murdered in concentration camps, in ghettos, and in any ditch that would take a few more bodies. Wanton murder.
Adolph Hitler and his Nazi death machine deliberately killed 11 million souls – we’ve studied the stories of the horror and atrocities of WWII in school. Yet, the result of the Supreme Court’s ruling in Roe v Wade, America alone has killed 61 million human beings. Where is the outrage? Where is our humanity?
Gov. Cuomo and the rabid abortion supporters cheered when he signed the bill. He ordered the World Trade Center tower to be lit up pink. Pink for womens’ right to kill their unborn. How about red for the blood being shed by the innocent victims?
Ronald Reagan said the question of conscience for the Nation was what value was a human life? In his essay, he references a tragic story, one that probably few of our time know about. It was the starvation death of a Down’s Syndrome baby, the judge ruled that a reasonable life saving procedure, opening up the esophagus, was not to be allowed as the child’s life had no meaning. Indiana’s State Supreme Court agreed. People are likely horrified reading about this today, because no longer would that ever be allowed, but in the not that distant past, 1982, this country allowed a Down’s Syndrome Baby to starve to death – all because his life was not considered worthwhile.
The value of life. The slippery slope people feared would come the day the Supreme Court ruled a woman could kill her unborn child has indeed come to pass. A slope that went from “safe, legal, and rare” to abortion on demand, up to and including the day of delivery. In, “Silent Scream, the Genocide of the Unborn” – The movie, “Gosnell” is discussed. The full title of that movie: “Gosnell: The Trial of America’s Biggest Serial Killer” – but now with new York’s open-ended abortion law, Gosnell wouldn’t even be found guilty of the deaths he caused when he killed babies born alive.
The slippery slope from Roe v Wade’s ruling has taken us from aborting a “clump of cells” to dismembering a fully intact, alive human body. Dismembering or now injecting poisons which are toxic to the nervous system. Both methods causing horrific pain-filled deaths. Dr. Joseph Mengele would be applauding. Yes, the Nazi physician who carried out inhuman experiments on infants and children during WWII.
America, or at least parts of country, has come to accept full-blown infanticide. Killing perfectly viable children. We’ve actually entered the next phase where killing a child after birth is going to happen. It’s already talked about. In 2012, “ethicists” Alberto and Francesca Giubilini and Minerva introduced the idea of after-birth abortion. It’s real, there are people who advocate that a child should be killed if it has no value to society or if the parents do not want it. If you think this couldn’t happen, it is happening: a Democrat Delegate in Virginia, Kathy Tran introduced legislation that not only would repeal all abortion restrictions in that state, but allow a last minute abortion during delivery.
America is no longer at a precipice. It has fallen over the cliff. We are engaged in willful infanticide. Rabid abortionists hide behind fancy phrases like what Governor Cuomo used, …”having the right to control their own body.” “Pro-choice” sounds much more acceptable than Pro-abortion. Daughn24/7 wrote about the “War of Words. The denial of committing murder by the pro-abortionists is their taking command of the language regarding their dirty deeds. They talk about women’s health, not dead babies. That’s called massaging language and message. The majority of the public, who doesn’t pay that much attention, are fooled.
There are some statistics people should be aware of:
1% rape or incest
6% health issue for mom/baby
93% of all abortions occur for social reasons (unwanted/inconvenient)
Then there is this:
I want to clear something up so that there is absolutely no doubt.
I’m a Board Certified OB/GYN who has delivered over 2,500 babies.
There’s not a single fetal or maternal condition that requires third trimester abortion. Not one. Delivery, yes. Abortion, no.
— Omar L. Hamada, MD, MBA (@OmarHamada) January 23, 2019
New York State has declared war on the unborn; New Mexico and Vermont are about to follow in New York’s footsteps.
For years, I have called abortion the genocide of the unborn, a Holocaust of the Innocents. A society that has open disregard for the sanctity of life, loses its humanity. A society which has no problem killing viable, innocent babies moves closer to demanding that it be allowed to kill other undesirables or other individuals who are perceived to not have value, or less value. The disabled and the elderly are two more vulnerable groups. It’s called euthanasia.
The gleeful abortion ghouls of New York state, who applauded and cheered upon taking the life of a child, demonstrates how easy it is to slide into a state of moral bankruptcy, a life without a moral compass. In this, we have lost our humanity, and our right to claim any kind of moral superiority. Pro-abortionists of the 21st century are not any different than the genocidal perpetrators found in the annals of history.
Perhaps this radical move by New York state will shock the conscience of this nation to reassess its values and move to protect Life.
The Supreme Court should revisit Roe v Wade. After all, we now have proof “safe, legal, and rare” was a misnomer. America has already murdered 61 million of its children, that’s evidence of a wrongly, and badly decided ruling. I’m certain that nowhere in the Constitution was infanticide written as a “right.”
www.numberofabortions.com
Edit update: I wanted to include this:
phoenixRising
January 28, 2019 at 20:59
For every child who lives in the womb:
that God might send an angel to guard and protect
the innocent and defenseless;
We pray to the Lord:
For the children who have died from abortion in our nation,
and for their mothers and fathers:
for mercy, peace and the loving embrace of Christ;
We pray to the Lord:
Picture credit: IMGkid.com
Cold blooded murderers serving as politicians..in my state nonetheless.
My daughter lives in NYC, she was sickened by this. Difficult to be a conservative in that state, and certainly almost impossible in the city.
It’s like Cuomo is trying to turn it into the “Evil Empire State”.
Cuommunists!
Take a good look at Cuomo’s face. Is this extreme politics, or is this man Possessed? I am in earnest.
Great point. His face is especially interesting when he “over-emotes” for the other side. Watch the moment when he says America was never “great”, and then tries to wriggle out of it. Also, when he was ranting about gun magazines one time, playing to the camera. He gets this weird “sneery” look that absolutely makes the viewer CRINGE.
Possessed? yes and what God fearing priest would exorcise the foul demon?
Cuomo will face his victims at his demise and will answer for this affront to mankind.
First we DIE…..
Then….. THE Judgement.
There are several flawed and false operant beliefs at work among the leftists today:
Leftists believe in a right-to-sex – any and all kinds of sexual acts – without responsibility or negative consequence, such as pregnancy.
They also believe in the right to have taxpayers cover the cost of any of the consequences such as contraception, STDs, pregnancy/abortion, mental health issues, etc. Remember the Sandra Fluke brouhaha?
They also believe in the right to be any ‘gender’ they want; they demand we believe they are whatever ‘gender’ they want to be, and want the taxpayer to pay for any treatment and surgery to try to achieve the appearance of that ‘gender’.
There are no such rights under the constitution and the costs are prohibitive – when you consider the incurable STDs – HIV, HPV, Herpes and the new mutations of gonorrhea for which there is no effective treatment. Treating one HIV patient is around 600K per lifetime. CDC stats show young black males are the fastest growing HIV population.
Continued:
Just imagine the cost of ‘sex change’ surgery and lifetime hormones, plus mental health counseling.
Besides an enormous increase of STDs, injuries, violence, there are many mental health issues among the sexually disoriented populations, including suicide and murder.
The cultural costs are tremendous. Encouraging this madness affects everyone, even the very young, the atmosphere in schools, churches, sports, and every part of our national life.
GA/FL – “the cultural costs are tremendous” – that’s the entire issue in a nutshell. 1960’s moved us to Roe v Wade, and once all responsibility and accountability was removed for the choices we made, it brought us to this moment in time – where’ the country has almost lost it’s moral compass completely.
This is a cultural war. Hedonism and acceptance of Evil vs restraint and morality.
Abortion has taken a toll on our humanity as a country.
One of the most striking things about our VSG President is his Humanity – and compassion and love for children.
Did you know that whenever his children called him – he would always leave top executives in meetings to talk with them?
Despite his wealth, enormous responsibility, pressures, the President’s love for his fellow humans shows in everything he does.
He’s my hope, along with Melania, to get the Supreme Court to act. People may not realize it, but the Court can reach down anytime and pull a case up, or revisit a previous ruling – including Roe v Wade from 1973.
Reflecting on genocide of babies it seems that we move closer to Paganism the more we adopt also the rituals sacrificing babies to our pagan god.
Leaving religion as moral compass they are people in the boat without a rudder.
Religion is not always perfect but we humans are even more imperfect when we are left without a guiding light.
The mystic river flows though the mother to the baby in the womb until if takes its fist breath where it can tap into it on its own. The mystic breath is universal and understood by all humanity and gives us life and sustains us.
Mystic River
There is a river flowing weaving in and out
It floes endless through light and dark
The river flows quietly through the sky
Above the moon flying high
The river touches every star
The vast sky it flows through the open heart
The river of time binds all in its way
Deliberately flows toward destiny
The river bends never standing still
It moves through valley and on top of the hill
There is a river that touches our life
The river flows slow from beginning to end of time
I refer to these pagans as the cult of Molech. I mean that quite literally. I’ve been saying that for years about them.
“Religion is not always perfect but we humans are even more imperfect when we are left without a guiding light.”
I like your take on religion.
Yesterday night I was watching “I am Jazz” on TV…He/she is build like football player, now is 17 and attracted to the girl…When he was a child his parents put him on puberty blocker medication and which is resulted in undeveloped male part…So now doctors are not sure that they have enough material to make a female part out of it…As I understood all this started when the child wanted to wear girl’s clothing…So he is cross-dresser, but he is still a male child, but his parents decided since he liked to wear girl clothes to make a girl out of him medicating him from an early age. And he is a straight boy, that is why he is attracted to girls. I think that in many so called transgender cases is a parents fault.
It should be considered child abuse for parents to be messing with their kids hormones.
60’s brought us Roes vs Wade…….
WORSE than that….
This country KICKED out GOD from our schools…..
Been downhill since……
DEMONICraps are doing their Damndest to kick Him out of Government too.
Be of good cheer…….
I’ve read the book 🙂
We win in the end.
How do these extreme, abortion-worshiping “feminists” get pregnant in the first place? They detest males and consider all (hetero) sex to be rape? Maybe it’s true that a girl can get pregnant by touching doorknobs. I’ll have to look into this.
Gotta love those “women” with Beards…….
Or those dudes with a DORK KNOT on their head…..
It’s almost a MUST, to do the “Crocodile Dundee” test before dating….
You know….. Grab the crotch just to test?
It’s not just America – it’s all Western nations that have lost their humanity over abortion as well as their fear of GOD.
Western nations now exist in a state of moral compromise and spiritual confusion/blindness – having forged laws that enable us to break all of GOD’s Commandments and Prohibitions….and made some laws that would force us to do so. We are in conflict with the Creator of the Universe and all beings.
You can’t break, alter, change, bend GOD’s Commandments – they are eternal, unchanging, written in stone. We only break and harm ourselves and others when we attempt to do so.
All this has allowed the rise of Islam and invited its invasion/infestation of the West.
Same thing happened throughout the old Testament when the children of Israel sinned and disobeyed GOD – they were attacked and taken captive by pagan nations like Persia, the precursor to Islam.
We cannot conquer Islam except by repentance and return to GOD and HIS WORD/LAW and return our laws to agree with GOD.
See Isaiah 10:5, 26:3, 30:15, 31:8-9, Nehemiah chapters 8-9, II Chronicles 7:14
Everything you say is correct. Without a moral compass and retention of our Judaic-Christian values, we’re lost, and so is Western Civilization. America is our last, best hope for mankind.
Oh contraire….
We COULD …. DESTROY Islam…..
If our “CONgress” was not in bed with THEM.
Absolutely we could destroy islam.
It would be easier now than at any point in human history.
The last time islam invaded Europe, the fighting was hand to hand. It was one-on-one, and it required a large investment of time and resources to learn to fight and afford a quality weapon. Any battle was subject (at least in part) to whichever side had the most numbers.
Today, the tiniest country in Europe could eliminate islam from the entire continent.
The islamic invaders have only small arms and IEDs, while even the smallest countries have a professional military, planes, helicopters, tanks, armored vehicles, artillery and heavy machine guns.
It’s not even a contest.
All Europe has to do is:
A) declare islam for what it is, a subversive ideology of conquest by oppression and violence
B) restore the rights of non-islamic citizens to bear arms
C) outlaw islam
D) give islamic people in Europe 10 days to evacuate peacefully
E) place a bounty or reward to encourage non-islamic citizens to call the Police and report any islamic person who has not evacuated
F) on the 11th day start making examples of those who remain and make sure it’s broadcast on TV everywhere
Either the islamics will leave in a mass exodus rush for the border, or the military rounds them up and overwhelms anyone who resists with infinitely superior firepower.
Like most things, the solutions to even the most “complicated” problems are usually quite simple.
That’s because the problems aren’t really complicated in the first place.
All that is required is the will to DO IT.
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Founding Father Samuel Adams opposed islam.
This is a discussion I had on the subject over at DailyCaller in September 2017:
NotMyOwnAnymore wrote: “You cannot be a true American citizen and not support religious freedom for all. You may not like the religion in question, but you must support its right to exist. Our Founders understood that to maintain religious freedom for some, you have to maintain religious freedom for all – and that the matter of which religion is valid is best settled in the open arena of competing ideas, not in a closed society that denies the freedom and rights of certain people.
My reply:
NMOA wrote: “Our Founders understood that to maintain religious freedom for some, you have to maintain religious freedom for all – and that the matter of which religion is valid is best settled in the open arena of competing ideas, not in a closed society that denies the freedom and rights of certain people.”
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Wrong again.
You’re just flat out WRONG.
We are not obligated to ‘maintain’ ANYTHING which threatens harm or a violation of our God-given UNALIENABLE rights.
islam is ALL kinds of wrong, and as Abraham Lincoln observed, “There is no right to do wrong“, certainly not when that ‘wrong’ violates the Rights of others.
Are you brainwashed, or just a typical Leftist subversive?
Here is Samuel Adams, an actual Founding Father, stating the grounds for his opposition to something many would argue is even less dangerous than islam.
Founding Father Samuel Adams would not only oppose a Muslim for president, but he would oppose the very presence of islam as antithetical to a free people.
I’m with Founding Father Samuel Adams. It is insane to be playing around with an ideology as dangerous as islam.
Here is an excerpt from a Breitbart article in September 2015, link at bottom:
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Would Founding Father Samuel Adams Agree with Ben Carson on a Muslim President?
AWR Hawkins
“It is interesting to note that in 1772 Sam Adams wrote “The Rights of the Colonists,” through which he set forth a litmus test for religions that could be tolerated under the new government colonists would form. Adams’ litmus test rules out theocracies like Islam.
Hanover College published “The Rights of the Colonists,” in which Adams wrote:
So Adams sets forth a test for ascertaining which religions should be tolerated and that test is whether the “doctrines” – or teachings – of a given religion are “subversive of society.” Adams contended that religions “are excluded from… toleration” when they “teach doctrines subversive of the civil government.”
One would think of the Muslim tendency to seek sharia law and sharia-compliant courts instead of laws and courts affiliated with constitutionally recognized jurisprudence. It would follow that one would presume the theocratic nature of Islam, whereby every facet of life – including matters of civil governance – are co-opted as part of the religion.
Theocracies can tend toward fascism, and although Adams did not employ such a term in opposing toleration for religions “subversive of the civil government,” he certainly made the same point.
At the time of Adams’ writing, he called the Roman Catholic religion by name, suggesting practitioners of that faith forfeited toleration due to “such doctrines as these, that princes excommunicated may be deposed, and those that they call heretics may be destroyed without mercy; besides their recognizing the Pope in so absolute a manner, in subversion of government.”
We do not see the Roman Catholic church destroying those “they call heretics… without mercy” in our day. But it is common to find examples of Muslims demanding that infidels convert to Islam or face death.
And they do so with an allegiance to Muhammad that both supersedes and defines their allegiance to civil government.
While Ben Carson opposes the idea of having a Muslim for president, Samuel Adams would have opposed toleration for the Muslim faith in general.”
http://disq.us/url?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.breitbart.com%2Fbig-government%2F2015%2F09%2F20%2Ffounding-father-samuel-adams-say-ben-carsons-opposition-muslim-president%2F%3AyNklIXdWsrXmcng4N4c9pFK3clE&cuid=932754
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WOW!…… Agree 100% Your Honor…..
Like I said 🙂
Glad that YOU typed it all out 🙂
Because I am the Hardest working lazy man I know:)
I believe it was Jefferson (?) who everyone touts as supporting Islam because he owned a Koran. Problem is, the Koran he owned was a translation by a man who recognized the inherent dangers of Islam and stated flat-out they needed to be abolished. Bottom line for me? Islam is NOT a “religion” in the general sense of the word, nor the strict sense of the word – it is a political theocracy (as referenced above), which is 100% antithetical to a Constitutional Republic. It simply cannot be allowed to function within our Republic unless they accept the supremacy of, and cede their allegiance to, our Constitution over Sharia Law – ALL aspects of Sharia Law. With Islam as is, that is impossible, hence, there are many millions of Muslims around the world who are apostates and often live under a death sentence if discovered.
From former Ambassador Haley:
Horribly ironic that this woman’s parents RAN from communism, only for their daughter to get sucked back into it here in America.
Important facts from Wikipedia:
Tran is a Duke University graduate with a Masters in Social Work degree from the University of Michigan.
That social work undergraduate degree (most likely) and particularly the MSW is where the leftists got her.
Excellent article here:
http://www.asianfortunenews.com/2017/08/virginia-candidate-kathy-tran-and-her-passion-for-public-service/
Archived here:
https://archive.fo/ozH1o
From the article – an INTERVIEW. MASSIVE TDS.
Q & A
Getting to know more about Candidate Tran in a Q & A format.
When did you make the decision to run? And please describe that day and that moment.
My husband Matt and I were due with our youngest child on Inauguration Day of this year. After the November 2016 election, we were concerned about sharing our due date with the start of the Trump presidency.
So we decided to give our daughter a name that reflected our family’s values. Our daughter’s full name is “Elise Minh Khanh.” “Elise” was inspired by Ellis Island. Matt has family that escaped anti-Semitism in Eastern Europe at the turn of the century, and passed through Ellis Island as they were seeking hope and opportunity in America. “Minh Khanh” is Vietnamese for “bright bell,” and that’s inspired by the Liberty Bell. To us, her name means “to ring the bells of liberty, and champion opportunity for all.”
it’s pathetic for Tran, she is either ignorant or disingenuous, most Vietnamese immigrants to this country are actually Republican – they know why they fled communism. Her husband’s relatives coming via Ellis Island, well, unfortunately many Jews who fled anti-Semitism and came to the U.S. tend to be on the socialist side. And many have lost their adherence to their faith – except for Orthodox Jews, who are against abortion.
Ms. Tran is a virtue signalling SJW. She won a special election because almost double the number showed up in that VA district. Virginia has been taken over by the people like her. Sick.
ladypenquin I could not agree more.
We are in a horrible place it is women who hate their womb the birth center for humanity.
Democrats must have an agenda to kill babies..?
Organ harvesting, tissue harvesting..? Their must be money in it for someone otherwise this would not happen.
That’s another whole side to what’s going to happen in New York state and elsewhere. The organ harvesting ghouls standing by, demanding that viable organs be “donated” for research. It’s going to be a problem where lethal injection is being used, the toxic poison will damage the nerves throughout the body.
Watch out for the demand to use “other means” than the lethal injections…
There was so much to cover, and perhaps in the future as we see what happens next, I’ll be able to do some follow up posts.
I know reading about abortion isn’t pleasant or a “go to” topic, but when we talk about saving the country – we’re talking about winning the culture war, which includes what Daughn24/7 talked about – “War of Words” – if we don’t win the culture war, we don’t achieve #MAGA.
Abortion is the epitome of what’s wrong in this country – the loss of a moral compass – this is the yoke to hang on the Democrats neck.
Nancy Pelosi just removed, “so help me God” from the oaths taken in the House. Democrats removed God from their platform in 2012… the push to remove God completely from the public square is an all out assault.
I am not saying one has to be religious, but if we abandon the Judaic-Christian tenets which the Founding Fathers constructed America upon – then we cannot survive.
We WILL survive, LP.
We ARE surviving.
Also, we will WIN!!!
Thank you for such a tremendous post.
And kudos for the Gen. Flynn follow – TWO “two-hops” is certainly better than ONE! Haha!
It’s testimony to your ethical grounding, to your well-based perspective.
Has it even been a month yet here, for you? lol
Happy Wednesday to you …
🙂 I love being here. At least people are reasonable, and positive. I worried about writing this post, but it’s one we can’t ignore, IMO. New York States, and everyone is saying it, has caused a disruption in the complacency of this woman’s right to choose. Maybe it will be what wakes up the Supreme Court.
(To LP)
“I worried about writing this post”
FREE SPEECH, here!
I hope your qualms have been allayed.
EVERYONE gets to say what they wish to, subject to cognizance of obvious legal restrictions.
You’re FREE!
Reeeeeee! (as the Anons exult!)
Yes, my heart usually wins over my brain anyway. But the folks here are smart and thoughtful, so it’s wonderful to have these discussions.
I am still going through my own religious transition but, no matter what, I know deep in my heart that you are correct. Without that basis in morality and decency, we cannot survive, at least as a free People. We are fallible as human beings and must have some sense of a “Higher Power” (in AA speak) to guide our actions. But when there is no responsibility assigned to such actions, people will do whatever they can get by with and they have no fear of a future judgment. No repercussions = no change in behavior.
Right, and somewhere in this thread, so many comments I’m trying to respond to, I emphasized that people don’t have to be religious to understand and adhere to the tenets this country was founded on. If we didn’t have the Founding Fathers – who absolutely believed all rights came from the Creator, we wouldn’t have America and the freedoms as we’ve known them.
It’s simply America’s fundamental moral compass that, IMO, separates us from the horrific atrocities of Nazi Germany and other genocidal losses in history.
Demonicraps for Lethal Injection?
Show me ONE.
(At least as it pertains to CRIMINALS)
“Elise,” a variant on Elizabeth, comes from the Latin meaning “God’s promise”. A divine promise from heaven, as in MAGA.
“Heartbreaking… This isn’t New York, this isn’t in California, this happened just this week right here in Virginia.”
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It’s not ‘heartbreaking’, STOP with the worthless EMOTION which substitutes as an excuse to do NOTHING.
It’s not ‘heartbreaking’, it’s MURDER.
And I don’t mean ‘murder’ in some general anti-abortion sense, I mean it’s M U R D E R.
SD has an article about it just now:
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Horror – Virginia Governor Endorses Post Birth Abortion…
Posted on January 30, 2019 by sundance
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/01/30/horror-virginia-governor-endorses-post-birth-abortion/
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It’s not ‘horror’ either. We CHEAPEN what is happening by one-upping ourselves to find the next most awful thing to describe it, rather than demanding prosecution of these monsters.
There is no possible ‘debate’ about POST-BIRTH homicide, much less vote to murder a living human being that is viable outside the womb.
It’s insanity, and when it comes to public policy, insanity must be repudiated and PUNISHED in the strongest way possible.
It’s not even something the legislature can VOTE on, because they can’t VOTE to violate the CONSTITUTION and the BILL of RIGHTS.
You can’t VOTE to make MURDER a lawful act.
But what you CAN do is PROSECUTE these serial-killers for MASS MURDER.
WHY are they not being prosecuted for MURDER under the current laws of New York, or Virginia, or anywhere else in these United States?!?
Why isn’t the State AG being hounded EVERY freakin’ DAY to prosecute these MURDERERS?!?
It’s not even an OPTION.
If someone commits MURDER, the State is obligated to press charges.
PROSECUTE, you worthless filthy dirt-bag!
If it is lawful to kill a baby, an American citizen, outside the womb, then by definition, it is also lawful to kill the person who kills the baby, and every politician who is an accomplice.
Simple as that.
In other words, if it is lawful to kill a baby OUTSIDE THE WOMB, then it is likewise to lawful to kill ANYONE.
A N Y O N E.
Well, that’s what the Left is about. I’ve been saying for years these people who are pro-abortion, rabid abortionists are the same ones who will demand euthanasia. It’s happening already.
The Left is intent on controlling who lives, who dies. That’s what Obamacare was all about.
Ding Ding! ….
We have a WINNER!…
Ocare WAS for this very reason
(To decide who lives and dies)
Women DO have a “right to choose”… for HERSELF!
NOT for the BABY she wants to KILL!
It’s all about control of our lives. Taking over our healthcare was the big one, once they had that the rest is just a matter of time – until and unless POTUS is able to continue his #MAGA agenda.
Where is the Attorney General of the United States?
AWOL, as usual.
All we have had is an AGINO.
For more than two years now.
And for at least the 8 years before that, we had outright criminals in the AG office.
Whether Sessions was a ‘white hat’ or not, he did absolutely nothing to protect the rights of Trump supporters across this nation. He allowed Trump supporters to have their rights to free speech violated, he allowed our votes to be disenfranchised, and he allowed physical violence to be perpetrated against us repeatedly.
And Whitaker hasn’t lifted a finger to do one solitary thing about it either.
I know, we’re supposed to ‘trust the plan’, but whoever came up with a ‘plan’ that left the Law abiding citizens without the Rule of Law, or due process, or lawful recourse to the wanton disregard of our BASIC Constitutionally guaranteed RIGHTS wasn’t thinking very clearly, or gave far too much consideration to the snowflakes. i.e., afraid they couldn’t handle Martial Law and the United States Marine Corps arresting every last criminal and Communist in public service.
It’s not just murder, it’s depraved murder.
Yes. I just finished reading Bill O’Reilly’s book, “Killing the SS” – only book of his I’ve read. The stories about the killing of babies by the worst of their people, simply make room for our modern-day abortionists to fit right in.
…pagan, barbaric, depraved murder.
Hey Nikki Bitch!
YOU helped…….. Banning the Confederate flag?
Go F Yourself!
A great point. Once one realizes what virtue-signaling actually IS, one really needs to nip it in the bud at all times. Nicki Haley STILL does not understand this.
Dead confederates are easy to abandon, but those who give in to leftist murder of HISTORY – and moreover the history of American HEALING after the Civil War – well, they simply sow the seeds of their own destruction by the FANATICAL left.
Thank you, lady! Sadly, you have hit the proverbial nail on it’s head.
Horrific !
Half of the country already supports the murder of infants on a genocidal scale.
Now blue states are proactively nudging and legislating for expansive scope to commit legalized murder.
The inhumanity !!!
How can we survive as a nation ?
CHI- I don’t know! While abortion numbers have actually been decreasing, the expansion of when babies are aborted has increased exponentially. Democrats virtue signal about being against capital punishment, but they insist on the right to snuff out an innocent baby’s life. In an unspeakable manner – a baby can feel pain at 10 weeks!
Heartbeat at 6 – 8 weeks – my daughter and son-in-law lost their son at 8 weeks after having listened to his heartbeat for over a week. They discovered during a check-up on a Wednesday that his heart had stopped and she was scheduled for a D&C on Friday. Friday morning, she started into labor and they went to the hospital. Since they already had her scheduled for surgery for later that day, they just let her sit and wait, only offering a small regular sanitary napkin while she waited with their poor baby hanging half-way out of the birth canal. Good thing I wasn’t there – I would have been raising holy hell!
I’m sorry, Nebraska for your daughter and son-in-laws loss. My daughter had 4 miscarriages before finally having the twins. It was a hellish two years. I pray for your daughter’s recovery and that her health permits a successful pregnancy.
She died 4 years ago. And yes, they had a daughter the following year, in 2009. It was a complicated pregnancy due to her gastric bypass in 2007, as well as high blood pressure. They had to induce her a month early when her son was born in 1997 due to the blood pressure.
I’m sorry, Nebraska, I remember now, this daughter is the one who died from drug problems. You’ve been through so much, and it’s people like you who make me realize how some problems we think we have – are nothing compared to others’ pain.
You’re among some very special, loving people here though. ❤
Oh, no doubt – if it weren’t for all the wonderful people here (and OT at the time), I would not have survived. Also, the need to protect my granddaughter – I focused all my energies on her and ensuring that she survived it intact. She has been in counseling since shortly after her Mom died and is doing quite well, thankfully.
Ohh Nebraska Filly,
my heart aches for you. what loss you have experienced, and so recently…
glad to hear your granddaughter is doing well…
God bless you and your family…
Thank you for your kind words. I know there are others here who have lost as much or more than I as well and it’s really nice to be among people who can understand the unique kind of pain that comes with losing one’s child.
No parent expects to bury their child. I am so sorry for your grief. I’m also so glad you’re here. ❤
How can we survive as a nation ?
Either Trump (and GOD)
Turns us around…. and QUICK….
Or…..
First….. lets try a DIVORCE from the “Blue states”….
Next is another Civil War…..
I see not much else in the way of options.
A great revival, like the first Great Awakening.
AMEN!
But GOD.
I have a friend who believes that America is set for or already in another revival, Great Awakening. Maybe that’s what the election of Donald Trump was about.
NebraskaFilly, first it took me a few days to get over the shock of what New York had done. It felt like there was a “disturbance in the force” – Star Wars movie, where Alderaan was destroyed by the Death Star. Then I began to gather my thoughts on how best to approach it. I’d had Pres. Reagan’s essay for a few years in a booklet form, had not read it. He was prophetic, and I realized he, back in 1983, was speaking and using words that we’re using today – “infanticide” “Holocaust” etc.
President Reagan would weep to see what Roe v Wade has wrought.
ladypenquin,
“It felt like there was a “disturbance in the force”
I haven’t felt this way towards humanity since the middle of my second combat tour.
This NY law has sparked many emotions everyday since it passed.
Anger, Hate, Loss, Sadness , REVENGE …
I mourn for the murdered infants which then segways into memories of my deployments…
Let Go and Let GOD
Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea.
Mark 9:42
I am hoping that the line New York crossed is so egregious that it will make the courts, somewhere, sit up and take notice.
No one can debate anymore when life begins, but we certainly know when it ends. Abortion takes an innocent life.
Basically, the people are aborting themselves out of existence. They’re ignorant of the fact that even Darwin would be shocked.
Pres Trump triggered the endgame faster than they were prepared for. Now it’s out there.
Yes, Cuomo said as much. He’s worried about rulings from the Supreme Court. Of course, that assumes that the conscience of the Court is awakened. The SC can revisit any previous ruling made, or pull a case up to be heard. They are not without the ability, but the will hasn’t been there for 46 years.
Well I was referring to the bigger endgame. Moving the needle even further left to force the population to accept even more anti-societal values.
Yes, they’re trying, and it’s been an insidious process. Surely POTUS took note of what’s happened.
It’s not working. They rolled it out too fast,
If we know about the Communist playbook, you can make bank on the fact that PDJT knows about it. He knows…..he has watched this for decades. Oh, yes, he knows! I truly believe this is one reason he decided he had to run this time – he saw this coming.
Then that gives me hope, NF.
I felt that way all through 2015 and 2016… like there was a great cloud of spiritual darkness over our nation. All the shootings, the transgender push, the court decisions, the race riots, the Dallas shootings of police officers… I knew something had to be done
Organization with the biggest microphone sits silent. Fire in the belly to take on this abomination is directed toward climate change. Sigh.
Been thinking… maybe “start asking the right f—ing question” is more appropriate. Perception church cares but actions are “only” words, why? With millions sentenced to death before they have the chance to breath, why?
So upset.
I know Charlie! The bishops and cardinals are hiding behind the reality that either their cowards or they don’t even believe in the morality that they professed before God and man.
If the Church (Catholic and Protestant) will not take a stand, how can the people?
Brings me to tears watching the church being relegated to “nothing”. Has the church lost it’s soul?
Tears of frustration and sadness.
Charlie, I struggled going to Mass this past weekend, I’m angry at the Bishops, Cardinals, the Pope. But then I thought to remember who is in Charge, really in Charge, and He hears our cries. Jesus wept, Mary wept for her children.
Perhaps, this is the time SCOTUS will act. If not, then it will eventually be the end of America, and I hope POTUS knows that! We’ve lost all sense of humanity and without a moral compass we cannot survive.
ladypenquin
Comforter
Anger and fear cause pain and despair
When in sorrow and in doubt
Christ reveals what He is about
He heals the soul
His gentle touch
Tears flow, flow, and flow
Anger and fear he takes away
In him is peace, from fear we are freed
He removes the seed, the cause of despair
Divine Spirit’s touch
Darkness He lifts like a torn veil
(CSH)
Yes, and by going to Church, I did feel restored, and prayed that aid would come for the unborn.
I assume that you are talking about “churches”….
The “churches” have all been taken over and are hostile to GOD
They are really just “Religious Social Clubs” anymore…..
The REAL “Church” is the body of “BELIEVERS”….
and Yes….. some do still go to church and just shake their heads.
The KEY is….
Your/Our PERSONAL relationship with Jesus the Christ.
Explains many struggling questions.
The “Key” is true, thank you.
“They are really just “Religious Social Clubs” anymore…..”
Sad, but true story.
I’m going to take crap for this…but so be it.
I’ve checked a number of dictionaries, and they all state that “infant” is in the first stages of life, and some very specifically state “newborn” or “first year after being born.” NONE specifically state that the term can be applied to the unborn.
I will agree that the term is appropriate for an “after birth abortion” (in fact, an after birth abortion is a contradiction in terms, and “infanticide” is the correct term for these proposals). As I understand it, and your article seems to confirm, none of them have passed yet; and Roe v. Wade doesn’t permit them since it is about abortion.
As appalling as the New York procedures are, I don’t believe that “infanticide” is the correct term for them.
The structure of your argument is that there is a slippery slope to infanticide (and it’s a good argument, don’t get me wrong), not that New York has already legalized it. I found nothing indicating that New York has done so, and several statements to the contrary (specifying up to [but not after] the moment of birth). And yet the title implies that New York already has.
So I find your title misleading. Perhaps “New York: Is Infanticide Next?” would be more accurate. You certainly lay out a good case that many radical elements are working towards precisely that.
We get on the case of the Left for misusing language. I don’t think we should pick up the same practice, especially when the correct language is appalling enough.
By using “infanticide” where it’s not merited, we risk being ignored when some of those “after birth abortion” laws are proposed and we use the word “infanticide” where it is merited, in fighting those proposals. I can hear it now, “Yeah those anti-abortion nutters always call it ‘infanticide.’ Blow them off, they’re hysterics.”
If we devalue the word “infanticide” we risk making it useless when we’ll need it the most.
I understand what you’re saying. But dictionary definitions change with the times, and who is writing the definitions. President Reagan himself, in 1983, in that extraordinary essay used the words “infanticide” and Holocaust. Infants are viable at 23-24 wks, I and many other pro-life people consider abortion actually “homocide” – the taking of a human life.
Homicide: “Homicide is the act of one human killing another. A homicide requires only a volitional act by another person that results in death,”
The Courts uphold actions because of legal definitions, which is where your analysis comes from – the end result is still the deliberate taking of a human being’s life. We’ve already moved into the realm of “after-birth abortion” – note that Gosnell would not have been able to be tried in New York under their new law.
Basically, I’m willing to use the term. What’s happening to these small defenseless human beings is no different from what happened in the Holocaust of WWII.
You’re technically correct, but I can’t let go of the fact that a viable child, including the day of delivery, is a life being killed. America is killing its unborn, it’s children. The Left changes the meaning of words, but IMO, abortion is murder, and that’s not in the legal system either.
What I find remarkable is that the baby is basically KILLED AND DELIVERED.
The DEATH makes no sense. At the point of viable, independent, external life, if simply delivered WITHOUT lethal action, a healthy child can be killed FIRST, then delivered.
It is highly illogical.
What is even more bizarre is that the Democrat politicians act as if their defense of this is “heroic” in some way.
Because I’ve been off the media grid for a couple of years now, the bizarre nature of these “virtue signals” is very clear to me.
This weird form of heroism demonstrates the power of the “virtue signal reception array” that the Democrats have set up through their control of the media. The INVERSION of communist values is made virtuous and individuals receive their “MK attaboys and attagirls” for kowtowing to the bizarre inverted values.
“I stood up for criminals having rights the police don’t have, based on skin color or politics.”
“I stood up for killing infants just before delivery, if the mother wants this.”
The “heroism” of such things is LAUGHABLE – once FAKE NEWS is removed.
The TRAINING and CONDITIONING for this must be very subtle, I’m thinking. It must be PERVASIVE.
If one looks at the full context, these are truly strange, inverted values – hardly worthy of virtue. Yet Democrats virtue signal to these things in an almost RELIGIOUS way.
Getting people OFF Democrat Fake News is how to enable them to SEE THIS.
Wolf, I firmly believe that it is the massaging and deceitful messaging which has allowed this to happen. Your analysis about perception, conditioning, and training all fall into desensitizing society. It’s also the reason why the Left keeps everything hidden about abortion – as much as they can. If the people were able to know the truth they would storm City Hall.
The young women are being pushed to have these abortions. The question to ask, is why? Why is the Left doing this?
We know why, LP, now don’t we?
Because they love sin and hate God.
Long rant plus some ideas to fight this.
I see many reasons WHY – which vary, each reason appealing to different classes of participants in the “coalition” to protect abortion.
At the STALINIST (Obama, Schumer, Pelosi) end, the State’s rights over all humans is paramount. Thus the STATE *grants* the mother’s “rights” over the child, so that the STATE becomes the source of the rights. That is THEIR motivation. They want to empower government over human life.
Mothers want control over their own pregnancy – the degree of control desired varying with how much their own ethics RESTRAIN that desire for control. Many want MORE CONTROL than they would likely need, and that is why there is so much illogical push-back now in terms of allowing third trimester abortions.
Roe v. Wade, even if one accepted it as a valid solution, no longer seems to serve its own purposes, since the Democrats / Communists have now BROKEN IT. The original intent was to use the arbitrary but convenient “trimester” concept to provide some kind of weighting to the Child’s rights versus the Mother’s rights. The Democrats / Communists now want to go “full Stalin” on things – 9 months of easy abortion – because conservatives have successfully USED Roe v. Wade as intended (most ironic, actually) to heavily restrict abortion in the third trimester, again, AS INTENDED.
WE – who respect laws – have actually HONORED Roe v. Wade. THEY have not.
There are financial reasons for the Dems to push legislation MORE LIBERAL than Roe v. Wade. The Democrats NEED that Planned Parenthood money – it is a HUGE way for them to pay themselves with taxpayer dollars. They also get money from people and organizations that NEED human tissues, and THOSE people depend on abortions throughout the 9 months, for access to tissues from all stages of gestation.
Although I don’t think this concept has any more RELIGIOUS or scientific validity than the idea of “quickening” which was used by people of the Founders’ era in terms of defining the beginnings of “life”, I tend to think that the idea of VIABILITY needs to have LEGAL VALIDITY in terms of protecting both the unborn and maternal rights.
If mothers retained their “right” to “child abandonment” but not their right to “child termination”, after the child became viable, it would – in my opinion – provide a better framework than Roe versus Wade, or could even be marketed as Roe v. Wade 2.0 to get both normal liberals and conservatives to agree on such a solution. The STALINISTS will never agree, IMO – but we can work around them. Normal liberals are mostly concerned with 9 months of “total right to child abandonment”. By addressing that directly and honestly, we can gain mindshare with a legislative or amending majority, IMO.
In essence, we say that the woman has a right to abandon the pregnancy at any time – but once VIABLE, the child is automatically protected BY THE STATE on the issue of LIFE upon abandonment.
This is a different and more “fluid” idea than the “two cuts by Solomon” of Roe v. Wade, but I think it provides a STRONGER deterrent to third trimester abortion, because it creates a state duty to protect the child’s life IF IT CAN. Yet it also enshrines a woman’s “right” to abandon the child at any time – something not now made in an explicit fashion. This points directly at what liberal women find “comforting” – freedom from the “tyranny” of being “forced” to bear a child. Of course, if they wait long enough, well, bearing the child PHYSICALLY is simply an inescapable reality. But they will also bear no RESPONSIBILITY. That is key. That is the psychological WINNING argument.
The key is to retain or even enhance the hard restrictions against abortion in the third trimester. I see TWO ways to do that. ONE is to introduce viability as a standard to PROTECT life, both culturally and legally. TWO is to introduce the idea that LIBERALS are VIOLATING the spirit and letter of the ROE V. WADE they SAY they cherish but are in fact LYING ABOUT. Make their hypocrisy CLEAR. They are NOT abiding by their own stated holy grail of Roe v. Wade, which restricts third trimester abortion heavily.
WE have been following the LAW of Roe v. Wade. WE respect Roe v. Wade. THEY have not and are not respecting it. They keep trying to introduce in utero infanticide of one form or another into the PROTECTED third trimester.
We have to CALL THEM OUT!!! STOP undermining Roe v. Wade, liberals! Or GO WITH SOMETHING BETTER (which we can offer).
I think there are many ways to fight this, but we cannot shame the Stalinists. We can, however, STEAL more sensible liberals away from them.
I need to digest this..This is ALL about Roe v Wade and RBG…that’s why states are trying to put it in State Constitutions–Going for States rights over Supreme Court “Law of the Land” Ruling- ROE V WADE-Which will be overturned in short order (relatively) soon. PDJT will not want this EVIL STAIN on his Presidency. Overturning Roe v Wade and giving it to the States to determine was/is his plan–But third trimester Murder/Infanticide/Invitro-Infanticide is so horrific! and Honestly–as a Pro-life fighter–I did NOT see this coming–
4 D sonograms and the actual viability of very preemie babies -24 weeks- has grown in leaps in bounds.
SO a Viable Life Law? Not a bad idea…
My question—How many Doctors would actually do what these politicians are “allowing”. Gosnells are NOT a dime a dozen..Or am I just too trusting and Naive?
My Prayer is that THIS OVER THE TOP law will WAKE UP THE NORMIES! speaking of “Normies” –Mr. Marica did NOT believe me When I told/ranted about this…😆
Final Note…As our country is getting blasted with subZero weather…IS HELL ACTUALLY FREEZING OVER? 😉
I’m with you – HELL MAY BE FREEZING OVER!!!
Truth!
You know it’s really telling – all those marriage amendments in the state constitutions, and then the Supreme Court in a radical act of judicial overreach nullified them overnight.
But then they left thinks they can keep radical abortion legal with the same tactic and somehow the Supreme Court can touch them!
At least we know what their tactics will be in the coming years: Create a wedge on the right to try to force people into a false dichotomy between traditional marriage/legal abortion or same-sex “marriage”/eliminate abortion.
The nomenclature for the legalization of killing children in the womb was put together in the 1960s. It was meant to be softer than the words “kill” and “terminate”. Pro-choice, etc.
Truthfully, this is the fruit of another anti-life movement that is part of our culture. Unfortunately, that part of it has not been recognized as such, but is practiced regularly even by those who oppose killing children in the womb.
But, we’re not supposed to recognize that.
That’s right, “Reproductive Health” a woman’s “right to control her own body” – well that choice should have been made before she became pregnant. Now there is another life involved, and society DOES have a vested interest in that second life.
To deny such an interest is to commit suicide as a society and as a country.
“Getting people OFF Democrat Fake News is how to enable them to SEE THIS.”
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I can barely stand to be around people who get their news from TV and local propaganda ‘news’ papers anymore.
The ignorance and/or disconnect is so vast that it’s difficult to even identify a common ground from which a discussion could progress toward better understanding.
It’s like trying to reason with a crazy person.
Propaganda makes you crazy. You either agree with it 100% or you suffer cognitive dissonance.
We may approach a critical point where most of the “hip” culture in this country REQUIRES turning away from Fake News, just like it did in the Soviet Union – where people who had any sense at all rejected it.
Infanticide will not stop until women and sociey embrace again their womanhood and fertility and as nurturers.
My intuition tells me that devaluing man’s masculinity that includes being also a provider and protector of the family goes hand in hand with women discarding part of themselves , the unborn.
Embracing the reality that we are our mothers and fathers . The baby is part of the mother -father and sadly killing it will leave scars. How can it not..?
There is always the pull and the further we get away from our creation the more perverted we become.
Embrace how God created us woman and man and embrace the special place we hold as women and mothers . We devalued everything that is good and it was slow.
My daughter in law cannot have a baby but still she is a mother to my daughter’s child. We need to become nurturers again and put children first before oneself and material things.
I might be all wet and wrong .
There is real data out there where multiple studies have shown that women who’ve had abortion suffer far greater numbers of PTSD, than those who lost children through miscarriage or a stillbirth.
I am also hoping that fathers will begin to assert their rights for their unborn children.
Um, there are a lot of fathers who see killing the unborn baby as a way out. That’s part of the whole problem as well. I’ve heard enough stories to know that it’s not just women making these decisions.
True, but I’m holding out hope for those, and there have been cases where a man has sued to prevent the woman from having an abortion.
I think we have to do a better job as parent to instill responsibility in our young people and that start when they are of age of understanding.
It used to be families lived close together not spread as they do now into nuclear families. Some mothers and grandmothers for sure were home to help raise a child.
I am not excusing what is happening with abortion but women feel that they have no way out. I say feel because their alway is a way .
I know when my daughter had her unplanned child at 34 because she and he husband had decided not to have any children. She never thought of abortion it put stress on their marriage but things changed once the baby was there. She knew my husband and I were 100% with her. Family support is essential even today where everyone is spread out.
Yes, and there is hope – having heard that the young generation coming up is more conservative.
“I might be all wet and wrong .”
Ohhh, I think not. You’re right on target.
“until women and society embrace again their womanhood”
So many see the efforts of the legacy media, as a tool of the WW cabal, as devaluing MEN, and our trait of masculinity. What’s been overlooked, in great part, is the concomitant war on WOMEN.
Manhood is good. Womanhood is good. By attacking BOTH – the former, directly, and the latter, indirectly – the Cabal seeks to destroy humanity itself.
The “right” to abortion is an attack on womanhood; the “toxicity” of maleness is an attack on men.
Put the two together … and it’s an attack on humanity itself.
The GOOD news is that they are panicking, and exposing their nihilistic agenda before they’d planned to.
So – we SEE them now. Without their preparatory mind-numbing agenda being completed. It’s a fatal flaw … at least (and at BEST!), here in AMERICA.
Pardon my French, but F*** ’em! We’ll win!
Amen EM!
We also need to quit denying our femininity, and enjoy it instead. It’s hard to do right now, because the messages are distinctly unfeminine to women. We’ve quit teaching girls how to dress, how to do basic functions that result in a happy home life, how to demure when necessary, how to engage creativity for good.
I could go on and on.
I think “when we’ll need it most” is already upon us. It’s infantcide.
Is it? Are already born individuals being killed today, sanctioned under these laws? If the answer to this is yes, than I’ll agree, but everything in the article indicates that the law, as bad as it is, still doesn’t cross that line.
An infant isn’t a viable but unborn child, it’s a born child.
Sorry to have to say this but….shame on you, Steve!!!! IT IS AN INFANT, WHETHER BORN OR NOT!!!!
NebraskaFilly
“Sorry to have to say this but….shame on you, Steve!!!! IT IS AN INFANT, WHETHER BORN OR NOT!!!!”
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Do not blame Steve men do not seem the connection to an infant in the womb as women do. At least my husband was that way. It took him longer to connect than I did who was elated each time I was pregnant.
My three children were born premature his excuse was holding them that they were so small and looked they could break and he could not hold them that small..
We love our children different and personally I saw myself as the protector of my children. Do not get me wrong my husband is a wonderful father but I carried these kids in my womb he did not.
I have a fertility belt from Africa that is strong out of Myrrh ( hope is the right spelling) beads.
The African culture seems to have a different connection to their fertility and babies.
PS I am sorry and appologize to men because I generalized. I am sure many men connect earlier with their children.
With this, I cannot agree. Even a man should be able to recognize the child is alive and aware and IS an “infant.” The African culture, it seems to me, doesn’t truly care about their children or they would stop having them when they can’t afford to feed them. Same applies to Islamists and far too many Hispanics. Children are pawns to these people, IMO.
“The African culture, it seems to me, doesn’t truly care about their children or they would stop having them when they can’t afford to feed them.”
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If by “African culture” you mean ‘black culture’ in America, I don’t think it can honestly be said that any distinct ‘black culture’ exists in any real sense.
There is ‘American culture’, and many blacks (especially older blacks) are firmly rooted in American culture.
Then there is what might be called ‘gangsta’ or ‘hoodlum’, but that’s not a ‘culture’, that’s just pretending that ignorance and unrestrained self-indulgence are unique to a particular group, and encouraging it to perpetuate by various means.
Blacks in America certainly don’t have anything resembling ‘African’ culture. The large majority have never been to Africa, and wouldn’t recognize ‘African culture’ if it smacked them in the face (i.e., any more than I would).
To the extent that so many younger blacks reject American culture, in effect they are opting for no culture at all. ‘African culture’ isn’t possible, since they are not from Africa and have never been there, so they can’t even imitate ‘African culture’, much less be authentic about it.
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culture
noun
1. the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.
2. that which is excellent in the arts, manners, etc.
3. a particular form or stage of civilization, as that of a certain nation or period: Greek culture.
4. development or improvement of the mind by education or training.
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None of those definitions apply to anything even remotely associated with the euphemism of ‘African culture’ in America.
So-called ‘African culture’ in America has nothing to do with ‘excellence’, but rather the opposite, a concerted rejection of excellence of any kind.
So-called ‘African culture’ in America, if it is anything, is a degradation of the mind.
In practical terms, it is simply a rejection of the dominant culture. If the dominant culture is derived from Christian beliefs and Western civilization generally, then ‘African culture’ in America is simply a rejection of both.
Replaced by nothing.
Because what could anyone replace it with?
You can’t ‘invent’ a culture in the midst of another culture and compel others to adopt it, it doesn’t work like that.
Not without subversion, as the Marxists are doing.
But subversion requires education, the development of skills and a commitment to something bigger than oneself. How does one develop any of those traits while rejecting the very culture which instills them?
Actually, I was thinking specifically of the African countries – Nigeria, Somalia, Yemen, etc., etc., not America. From what I have been told, real “Africans” feel a great deal of disdain towards most American blacks.
They do.
Granted….. You Women DO Carry the Baby until it is BORN……
But we “Men” have the RESPONSIBILITY for their (and YOUR) care.
That means WORKING (2 0r 3 jobs if need be) Not seeking Gimmees.
People can do a lot of crap to me……
Mess with MY FAMILY…..
And you’d hate to see the result.
Uh…infant MEANS born. So no.
Steve, just so you know, Virginia just defeated, but the Dems will bring it back when they take the State House in Nov, a bill that would allow the baby to be “born, and comforted, and then aborted.” The Virginia governor himself said those words on the radio this morning. James Woods has called him out for advocating murder.
Infanticide is exactly where we’ve gone. Whether it’s a moment before or after. We all know we’re killing a living human being. A baby.
No denying there’s a slippery slope in play, LP. And there’s no doubt they’re going to try to misuse the word “abortion” to describe acts done after birth to try to “ease” us into actual infanticide.
Fortunately someone in VA had enough sense to defeat it.
Steve, the Dems are likely to take the State House in Nov. We barely hold it now, and voter fraud is stealing the rest. That bill will come back up.
It will come back up like vomit.
Similar issues here. I don’t know that abortion has come up here but gun control certainly will.
“Steve, just so you know, Virginia just defeated, but the Dems will bring it back when they take the State House in Nov, a bill that would allow the baby to be “born, and comforted, and then aborted.” The Virginia governor himself said those words on the radio this morning. ”
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It’s the definition of murder.
Not even a lunatic could argue that killing a baby outside the womb is not murder.
I certainly don’t want the depraved lunatic masquerading as the Governor of Virginia to take my word for it. He should try to murder a baby himself, and see what happens.
Arrange it so that someone is there to stop him, and then provide him with an opportunity to try. Call his bluff. I certainly would.
Either he will be shown to be a fraud and a hypocrite who runs away from his own professed beliefs, or he gets wrestled to the ground, cuffed, and put on trial for attempted murder in the 1st degree and goes away for life without parole.
Your move, Governor.
This reply is to Scott below (no reply button): The Governor is a pediatric neurologist!
Semantics Steve……. My children were “INFANTS” …..
Once they were CONCEIVED……
Pre “Born” or Post “Born”…..
I will NOT let the “language” be my guide.
WORDS…. change.
GAY used to mean Happy.
Now it means:
Rectal Infected!
They were your children, or your babies. Not your infants. “Infant” has a more specific meaning.
Would you call your children “teenagers” immediately on conception?
My stance remains the same……..
“Language” is for LAWYERS….
The definition of “is”?
My wife still refers to my ADULT kids as…..
her BABIES!
Bought it hook line and sinker, “infant isn’t a viable” WTF?
Hope this is not your opinion but interpretation of article “law”.
It’s a wonder pedophilia is accepted, humans has no value.
So when does a human have value, paycheck? social statice?
politician they hob knob with?
TAX PAYER! That’s when we ate Human……
INSURANCE PREMIUM PAYER…… is another definition……
Get sick and “They” will TREAT your condition (NOT CURE you)….
Insurance runs out?
YOU DIE!
Follow the $$$$$$
lol…… ARE,,,,, Not “ate”
Steve, if infant is a problem word for you, you might try the Latin word for baby: FETUS. They are all humans who depend on adults for survival.
Fetus, as borrowed into modern English, is the general term for pre-born so it’s actually both specific and correct.
“Child” does apply to the unborn as well as the born (to my slight surprise), so it’s less specific but still correct.
Always open to information, Steve. Yes, that’s what I thought about the word “baby” in your comment, “child” inside or out, it’s a child.
The pro-life movement has done an excellent job using the word “child” to make the case.
I’m so glad you could see what I saw in New York’s new law. BTW, called the Reproductive Health Act. I’d like to know where is the law protecting innocent babies. Social inconvenience should not be a reason for murder.
“I’m going to take crap for this”
As well you should.
Your point is minor, and truly ancillary, in the context of the big picture of devaluing human life.
“we risk being ignored”
This is the same fallacious perspective that seems to permeate the political discourse. WE risk? No no no. I don’t seek the approval of the PC, sophistic “word-smithing” LIES of those who wish to degrade ALL humanity.
I’ve found that many times, you miss the forest for the trees, and get caught up in minutia of language or precision, without putting the MAIN point first.
“If we”
No, Steve.
“Because THEY”
Language matters, yes – but it isn’t the NUMBER ONE thing. That’s what THEY want. WE want the truth, however imperfectly expressed.
You are APPEASING. Wrong strategy to win. They use language, and talk, because they don’t GIVE A SHIT about language and talk! Just that their agenda moves forward.
I’ve probably made a few mistakes of language myself, here in this post. Is THAT what really matters? Perfection?
I say no. You seem to say yes.
Dictionary consultations won’t stop evil. It’s a distraction. Arguing with words … is a distraction.
While your intellectual approach has some merit – and words DO matter – still, they are just words. ACTIONS matter more than words.
I know you’re a patriot; I know you contribute value here – so the number-one thing is you’re good. I’m glad you’re here.
But you often get stuck in the weeds! In a word, you’re too abstract.
IMO. And, I actually AM trying to help!
As am I.
The TEXT of this article lays out a good argument, I said so twice.
I don’t want us to devalue the word “infanticide” by using it inappropriately; it will lose its punch if we do so.
Steve, I get what you’ve said, and I see Wolf has given me some additional terms down below, but if we reflect on the title, it does, in its own way, imply that “infanticide” is a potential outcome of that new law – and that’s where the lawsuits will start.
“As am I.”
Yes, Steve. You are.
I DO perceive that …
Relax, dude! You’re ok! You just judge too much by intellectualism – it’s a natural bias, given your strength.
The “punch” is the word “DEATH”.
IMO.
You make a great point about LANGUAGE. We CAN and should FIGHT BACK there.
How can we MODIFY the term “infanticide” or otherwise use LANGUAGE to make ANTI-VIRTUOUS the idea of sneaking infanticide into the delivery room? To make Cuomo and his ilk ASHAMED of what they are doing, despite ALL THE WORK that the media has done to create their “virtue signal receptor array”?
“Delivery room infanticide”.
“Pre-infanticide.”
“INfanticide.”
“in-fanticide.”
“Withinfanticide.”
“Sneaky needle infanticide.”
“Democrat infanticide.”
“Birthicide”.
“Birth of horrors.”
“Murder delivery.”
“Stillborn on demand.”
“Capital delivery.”
“Bride of Satan delivery.”
They ABUSED psychology IN THE DARK against us. We can OPENLY use psychology BACK AGAINST THEM.
Begin using SPECIAL TERMS for their SNEAK INFANTICIDE.
They ESCAPE logical justice on technicalities. Thus, we EMBRACE THE DIFFERENCE. It’s not infanticide – it’s something SNEAKIER and even UGLIER.
“Partial birth abortion” was a term that brought the FULL HORROR into view. They keep trying to SNEAK AROUND things – to HIDE what they are doing in this way or that.
Proper terminology EXPOSES.
“Proper terminology EXPOSES.”
All thirteen of your expressions fall under the rubric of “DEATH”. It’s the SINGLE common factor, yes?
Death of humans, death of humanity. Agenda 21 (or 30 – who cares?) merely begins the moral descent.
The Cabal LOVES them some babies – the innocents.
Let’s call it what it is.
The DEATH of US.
(I’m pretty stoked today, yes? lol)
The demonic cult of Molech, worshipers of DEATH.
Good terms to use in further discussions.
Any of the ‘cide’ suffixes makes it almost clinical, removing it one more step from common language.
Murder is personal.
…………………………………………………………………
“Delivery room infanticide” becomes “Delivery room baby murder”.
“Pre-infanticide” becomes “Pre-birth baby murder.”
“INfanticide” becomes “Baby murder”.
“in-fanticide” becomes “Baby murder”.
“Withinfanticide” becomes “Baby murder in the womb”.
“Sneaky needle infanticide” becomes “Sneaky needle baby murder”.
“Democrat infanticide” becomes “Democrat baby murder”.
“Birthicide” becomes “baby murder at birth”.
“Birth of horrors” becomes “Horrific baby murder”.
“Murder delivery” becomes… that one’s just right.
“Stillborn on demand” becomes “Baby murder on demand”.
“Capital delivery” becomes “Baby murder on delivery”.
“Bride of Satan delivery” becomes “Satanic baby murder sacrifice”.
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Murder is the specific word they try to avoid at all costs, by substituting ANY euphemism they can get away with. They know the power of that word, which is why they must distance themselves from it.
So follow them around with it, make them own it. Every time they ‘drop’ it, pick it up and hand back to them, saying “here you go, here’s your ‘baby murder’, I saw that you dropped this”.
Or to use Trumpian tactics, assign them accountability and then make them own it.
Thanks, EmeraldStar. The purpose of my article was to discuss the big picture of what just happened in New York State, soon to be followed by New Mexico, Vermont, and likely Virginia next year.
Its obvious New York crossed a line. They had been trying for 10 years to get that law on the books. When they finally did it, they lit up the World Trade Tower in pink. A travesty to the 2,700 people who died in 9/11.
Dem. Gov celebrating killing completely viable infants – that’s infanticide. It’s also why abortion was considered illegal until Roe v Wade. Killing is killing.
“Thanks, EmeraldStar.”
YW, but it is I who thank YOU.
Your post was / is tremendous. It was my pleasure to read it, to find truth. The subject. of course, wasn’t pleasureful.
IIRC, already Delaware (or Maryland, whichever) enacted the SAME “policy” in re abortions as NY. It’s already BEEN followed.
The way I look at it, is that it is THEY who are PANICKING. They’re trying to advance their nihilistic agenda TOO SOON. They wanted to minimize the feared backlash … but VSGPDJT monkey-wrenched their time-table. They’re getting more backlash than they’d anticipated, by far.
They are EXPOSED.
It shall not last …
We shall overcome, and WIN!
Remember that the left uses language to move their agenda forward. In a perverted way, Steve is right. Precision is necessary to win a war of words or the other side will beat you over the head with it.
Yes….. Precise “Language” is good AGAINST “THEM”…..
Amongst “us”…… Not so much.
Em……. My point also about the “language…..
Like the spelling police…..
Not too useful to me.
Not useful to our VSG either, I have noticed, eh?
SteveInCO,
Your argument is logical and valid.
However, the rules have changed.
President Trump is the first conservative to use the Rules for Radicals against the left.
I don’t care what the left thinks…we will never change their evil ways.
We are past the point of catering to the leftists.
I used “murdered infants” in my post above knowing the term infants was technically incorrect.
If “murdered infants” motivates our base of 63 million…mission accomplished.
Time is of the essence.
Yes it’s time for new rules. We win, they lose.
So…you’re willing to misrepresent this situation (i.e., LIE) in order to motivate the base? You don’t think they would be motivated by an ACCURATE description of what is going on here: That NY State has legalized abortion up to the moment of birth and bills have been filed to legalize infanticide, i.e., killing babies after they are born?
I hope the base never finds out how little respect you have for them.
WADR, Steve, you are getting caught up in the “word war.” WHO changes these meanings in the dictionary? THE LEFT!!!! And with directed purpose! See? It worked on YOU!
Good point. the fact that until Roe v Wade it was illegal to kill the unborn child means that historically, this country, and societies in general had considered it a crime. The woman had always been thought to have a BABY inside her, not a fetus. That’s why we was against the law to kill it.
Fetus is a medical term, convenient for use by the modern-day Leftist. It doesn’t “sound” human.
As I said – they do this with a directed purpose in mind – and they are succeeding, sadly. As I think you said elsewhere – hopefully, this travesty in NY will wake up more people.
Fetus is actually Latin for baby.
And socially, abortion was not accepted, but it was legal even here in the US in many places until autopsy was a regular part of medical school in the 19th century, when it was illegal to dissect.
I know, it’s all whacked, but these are the things I learned while in an archives decades ago.
And never forget this:
Da Vinci exposed a lot with his anatomical drawings…which were illegal when he did them.
Right, and the left uses fetus because it doesn’t bring the same connotations that “baby” does.
If you took a hammer to a fertilized Eagle egg, the left would call it murder and you would go to jail.
I went looking at Scripture today after I read Steve’s comment this morning. Scripture calls it a child in the womb, a woman with child and says the child is the fruit of the man. The object of abortion was to remove responsibility for the child from the man and make it clear the man was of no value in the process.
Christians pray to Our Father, which art in Heaven. God is the Creator and knew us from the beginning before we were in the womb.
Our men must take their God given responsibility and lead us through this.
Christians do not worship Gaia, Sophia or any other female goddess or transvestite god like Baal who has male and female sexual organs.
The godless communists did two things: they changed the word child to fetus and said it is part of the woman’s body. The child is not the same sex as the woman at least half of the time, it does not have the same blood type. The child is an entirely separate person and the woman is the carrier. After the child is viable, it can survive even if the Mother dies before it would have been born. The Mother’s body dies but the child can be removed from her and does not need to die with her. The child is the fruit of the man. but does not die if the Father dies.
A woman should never be allowed to get rid of a man’s fruit without his written permission. If she does not want it, she should have to carry the child to full term, nurse it and turn it over to its father. If the father does not want it either, then it should be adopted to people who do want it or the parents should pay someone to raise the child to adulthood. Honorable men used to do this. They claimed their children and their bastards and provided for them.
The child is not to be abandoned, murdered or sacrificed to Moloch.
I was also thinking about the Muslims and their honor killing. They believe the whole family is the property of the man and he has the responsibility to kill any member of his family at any age if he deems it a matter of honor to the family. He can kill his wife, children at any age and their children if he thinks he should and no one can punish him or stop him. Sharia Law.
Men will have so much more self respect and fulfillment if they claim their children and take care of them. Women will have so much more self respect and fulfillment if they claim their children and raise them.
Children will have so much more sense of value and belonging if their parents love them and care for them.
Elizabeth (Love that name…. Mother of John the Baptist)….
You are also WISE……..
Thanks for that EXCELLENT comment!
OK. I’ll go back to some old print dictionaries from the 50s, then–when I get home.
Very good points, Steve. I may have gotten here eventually, were it not that I have held my own stillborn daughter. This has always cut way too close to home and so I can’t spend too much time reading of the horrors.
I hope that phoenixRising doesn’t mind, but I just edited an update to include a prayer she posted the other day:
phoenixRising
January 28, 2019 at 20:59
For every child who lives in the womb:
that God might send an angel to guard and protect
the innocent and defenseless;
We pray to the Lord:
For the children who have died from abortion in our nation,
and for their mothers and fathers:
for mercy, peace and the loving embrace of Christ;
We pray to the Lord:
I don’t mind at all, Lady P., I am honored.
sleepless night, so just tuned in…
So very thankful for your article Lady P., it is powerful, should be shouted to the rooftops.
As all of you I am horrified by the legislation the State of New York has passed. I don’t care which ‘cide’ one picks… ‘infanticide’ or homicide… FACT IS a fetus is viable in the third trimester. Statistics indicate that most will survive outside the uterus.
“Words” are simply “LABELS” one uses to communicate…
A brief reading of the comments awards the prize for succinctness to
sobriquet3
I think “when we’ll need it most” is already upon us. It’s infantcide.
Will write more when I am more ‘alert’ …
Thank you Lady P. for this article, for touching on this subject.
We must pray, and we must take actions…
Thank you phoenixRising. Good morning. I worked many hours on this, including at 0300 last night. My twins were born at 30 weeks, big boys, 4lb 2oz, 4lb 6 oz, in the 1980’s! Yes, they need a little support, but only for a few days, and then it was feed and grow. They’re big strapping young men today, successful, and now starting their own families.
I’m fairly certain the word infanticide is rampant across the ‘net these days – all leading back to what New York State just did. I pray that it’s a step too far and we’ll see them in Court.
My twin brothers were born not even three weeks after Roe v Wade was handed down. There’s a whole story that goes with it, but when my mom got to the hospital, and the nurse was listening to the heartbeats, she said, you’ve got two boys. They were over fourteen and half pounds between them. And by this law….. Not that my parents would ever have considered it.
LP, thanks for the important post. This has weighed heavily on most of our minds. I love that you added your twins story. 3rd trimester abortion should be considered murder and criminally prosecuted.
My DIL went into labor at 31-1/2 weeks and delivered a perfect, healthy boy who only had to stay in the NICU for observation and some oxygen for a week. I was blessed to watch his delivery. Couldn’t believe the docs allowed me to be there but they were totally unconcerned because of his GESTATIONAL AGE and her lack of other complications. He was a viable BABY then….and he is a healthy, happy 4 year old now.
Totally agree with your words “Perhaps this radical move by New York state will shock the conscience of this nation to reassess its values and move to protect Life.”
TBOR, we struggled to get pregnant, and then both my pregnancies, ( I have a daughter too) had catastrophic deliveries. My 3 are considered miracle babies. I know the value of human life. But I knew that before ever having children, simply because of loving people and believing in them.
There are so many loving families that desperately want but either can’t get pregnant or suffer multiple miscarriages. I’m so glad that God blessed you with 3 miracles. I have 4 and simply cannot fathom destroying a precious baby’s life. These infanticide celebrating people are sick, evil, twisted, immoral, Godless…..
Thank you Phoenix.
For all the abortions and the low birth rate for replacements in our country, giving illegals and their unborn children priority is even more of an affront, especially when given a chance, these babies couldve been the people who strive to grow and support the U.S..
Last time I read, child abuse has risen 1000% since Roe v Wade.
https://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2013/01/7630/
So have child predators, sexual addictions and STDs, and many other related negative statistics.
I’m glad you did this post, Lady P.
Thank you.
Thank you. I hope folks will read Reagan’s essay, “Abortion and the Conscience of the Nation” – it shocked me. He was using the same words then as we are now. The story of the Down’s Syndrome baby being forced to starve to death because he was abnormal brought tears to my eyes. I had no idea!
It’s worse today. The Left has made huge inroads with their propaganda – but the indifference to human life, as Gov. Cuomo smiling when signing the bill, death warrants for thousands of babies – that’s something we can’t let stand.
Cardinal Dolan’s response is abhorrent! Dolan’s closet “must be” filled with secrets allowing the death of babies to go unpunished. He is not the Cardinal of Catholics. This man is bought and paid like the politician, Cuomo.
RESIGN DOLAN!
perversion and radical leftist politics have infested the catholic priesthood.
My opinion of the Cardinal is in the basement. If abortion isn’t a reason for ex-communication, then what is? The Cardinal just wants to make sure he gets invited to cocktail parties.
I’m Catholic, so this isn’t an anti-Catholic comment. But it’s because too many church leaders won’t speak out…
LP it’s all the churches, not just Catholic. Too many don’t want to rock the boat. The early Christian martyrs would’ve been ashamed and dumbfounded at what the church has become.
Oh yes they do……..
The Baptists are all about: ROCKing the boat anymore……
“Reverence” has been pushed out!
Non of this makes me angry, just extremely sad.
Four of our pre-born grandchildren died in the womb. One of our DILs had three miscarriages in the first trimester after their first son was born. The third miscarriage happened a week before Christmas two years ago. Thyroid situation. She is currently just over the first trimester mark with her fifth pregnancy, and THANK GOD, so far, so good. Prayers appreciated.
Another grandson died in the womb of another DIL at six months gestation. A heartbreaking thing was seeing our oldest son carry the tiny casket with his remains to the grave. I wouldn’t leave the cemetary until I saw his casket lowered into the grave. The funeral director realized I was a grandma, and offered me to hold his casket for a bit. I did. That was a week before Christmas twelve years ago.
I knew back when abortion was legalized that we would eventually be using baby “parts” and rationalizing that for medical reasons Medicine was, at that time, experimenting with transplants. That is when God lit the light bulb in my head.
In fact, back then, I started writing “Another Modest Proposal.” I didn’t know what I would do with it…perhaps send to christian publications to alert others. DH was adament that I stop writing it because he felt people weren’t smart enough to realize it was satire and someone might just shoot me. I stopped when I wrote how mothers should be paid to carry their babies to term and warehouse the children for medical use.
I always felt that God let me “see” the future of abortion so I would get involved in pro-life work, which I did, heart and soul for over two decades. My entire family was involved in trying to help me, and their help was indispensable especially when I was doing post abortion healing retreats. Their patience when I got phone calls from despondent men and women was beyond what Ithought they were capable of displaying. The guys moved my props, several vans full, from my basement to the retreat site and back again.
Post script to my attempt to write the satire: My prayer partner, when our group prayed by PP, gave me an article by a doctor, written about the same time I was writing, that predicted exactly what I was trying to convey in my “Another Modest Proposal.” I know I never saw it nor heard of his article until she gave it to me. Maybe God was just trying to nudge many of us to get involved.
Sorry for the wordiness, I do go on sometimes.
Plain Jane, no, you have a story to share. I’m so grateful to hear how so many others have soldiered through some of the most difficult times. Perhaps some of us who have truly been true either one is pregnant or not, or deliver a viable baby or not, really comprehend the travesty that abortion is.
There are two contexts in what these articles are about, the written word of individual stories and the secondary one of what happens to a society when they’ve reached the point of death by indifference.
I was young and ignorant when Roe v Wade passed. In fact, most previous generations had little knowledge about the birds and the bees. But when I married, and struggled to have children, then I realized that those few cells are either life or they’re not.
As the good doctor who I quoted in the article, there is “no reason for abortion for viable infants, delivery yes, but abortion no. “
God bless you LP. Thank you.
We know what we know because God set it in our hearts from the beginning, before the world could corrupt.
Thank you Plain Jane, for sharing with us… I find no wordiness, testimony yes.
We are blessed for all that you have done…
Thank you PR. The frustration comes when the pro-aborts don’t share our love for life. Pray for conversion and healing of heart for all who have been touched by abortion and all in the abortion industry. Please convert them Lord, or stop them in the quest for death of babies.