STILL No Proof of Russian Hacking of DNC or Podesta

Three years of endless media coverage, an extensive investigation by Mueller’s team, people went to jail…….. and still, no proof.
I understand I am a mere citizen, in a red state, doomed to be ignored and insulted by those who feign indignation ANYONE would question their assumptions. Yet, here I am. Where’s the proof? I want to know and ALL Americans deserve to know.
Are we “racist” because we question the obvious?
Within our small group, we have searched for proof of Russians hacking the DNC or Podesta. We have tracked the claims made by CrowdStrike, the only ones allowed to review the DNC servers…. only to have their wild claims, debunked.
CrowdStrike based their conclusions on three fundamental elements:
1. We closely followed the CrowdStrike claim of D-30 Howitzer tracking software was hacked in a similar fashion by Cozy Bear and Fuzzy Bear……. it fell apart.
2. We followed the CrowdStrike Claim of a London Think Tank, IISS, which counts armaments/size of standing armies of all countries…. only to have IISS debunk CrowdStrike. (International Institute for Strategic Studies)
3. Russian language strings in the code…… debunked when we learned we could purchase a similar keyboard in Brooklyn for about $14.
In May of 2017, Crowdstrike backed off the basis for their findings…….. but their spox said it did not matter, because the “17 intel agencies” came to the same conclusion…….
…….. but the 17 intel agencies were relying on CrowdStrike for analysis. See what they did there?
BUT …. what if you learned there were no 17 intel agencies who reviewed the material and made an assessment? What if there were were only a few dozen hand-picked people from CIA/FBI and a few people from Clapper’s staff……. because that’s what happened.
We’re supposed to trust our intel community, right? Yet, given what has been revealed in the last 3yrs about political appointees from the Obama Admin and various partisan members of agencies, are we “racist” because we doubt Brennan, Clapper, and Comey?
What if you learned Peter Strzok was one of the hand-picked members of the team who WROTE the ICA………. Did you that little tidbit? 
Why not put the issue to rest and provide the proof to all Americans? And don’t use the old excuse of “sources and methods”.
Keep in mind, head of the NSA, Mike Rogers, did not agree with Comey, Clapper, and Brennan, in the Assessment. AND a rebuttal opinion, which is normal for such reports, was not provided.
Yesterday, the NYTimes reported US Atty in CT, John Durham is interviewing CIA officials. If we read the article, instead of merely breezing past a headline, it looks as though Durham is questioning CIA officials on how they came to the conclusions about Russian hacking…. which appeared in two reports.
  1. December 29, 2016 Joint Analysis Report (JAR)
  2. January 7, 2017, Intel Community Assessment (ICA).
This is the final work product which was presented to President Obama, BIDEN, Susan Rice, et als, and then the salacious portions were presented to President Elect Trump.
Understand, Mueller’s investigation cleared President Trump of working with Russians, but the Mueller report BEGINS by assuming Russians hacked the DNC and Podesta —– for which we have no proof — and one set of Mueller’s indictments of Russians (the Russian troll farms) are falling apart in DC Court.
Allowing the narrative “Russians hacked the DNC” and “We were attacked by a hostile foreign power, and Trump was helped” allows the Dems to continue the premise, “Donald Trump is an illegitimate President”.
Bottom line: Russian may have hacked the DNC and successfully phished Podesta. The claim may or may not be true. As an American, I STILL don’t know. Do you?
If Durham’s investigation destroys the premise for the JAR and the ICA, and exposes the JAR and ICA as loose intel, twisted for a political goal, then the entire “Russian Hacking” story falls apart.
The MSM, DNC, Bad actors, know that few people will take the time to read the JAR and ICA.
We did.
Here are the links, again.
As civilians, I invite you to reread these reports and see for yourself. The information contained herein looks loose, suspicious, unclear.
See what you think, devoid of pundits opinions.
Judge for yourself.
Update: From Real Clear Investigations ( Link )
” Except that the ICA did not reflect the consensus of the intelligence community. Clapper  broke with tradition and decided not to put the assessment out to all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies for review. Instead, he limited input to a couple dozen chosen analysts from just three agencies — the CIA, NSA and FBI.
Agencies with relevant expertise on Russia, such as the Department of Homeland Security, Defense Intelligence Agency and the State Department’s intelligence bureau, were excluded from the process.
 
While faulting Clapper for not following intelligence community tradecraft standards that Clapper himself ordered in 2015, the House Intelligence Committee’s 250-page report  also found that the ICA did not properly describe the “quality and credibility of underlying sources” and was not “independent of political considerations.” “

Dear MAGA: 20190613 Open Topic

This THINKING ABOUT THINGS ON THURSDAY THE THIRTEENTH open thread is VERY OPEN – a place for everybody to post whatever they feel they would like to tell the White Hats, and the rest of the MAGA world.

You can say what you want, comment on what other people said, and so on.

Free Speech is practiced here. ENJOY IT. Use it or lose it.

Keep it SOMEWHAT civil. They tried to FORCE fake Orwellian civility on us. In response, we CHOOSE true civility to defend our precious FREEDOM from THEM.

Our rules began with the civility of the Old Treehouse, later to become the Wolverinian Empire, and one might say that we have RESTORED THE OLD REPUBLIC – the early high-interaction model of the Treehouse – except of course that Q discussion is not only allowed but encouraged, and speech is considerably freer in other ways. Please feel free to argue and disagree with the board owner, as nicely as possible.

Please also consider the Important Guidelines, outlined here in the January 1st open thread. Let’s not give the odious Internet Censors a reason to shut down this precious haven.


And while the most important thing you can do is to be able to tell our President THIS:

I AM PRAYING FOR YOU!

And it would be PRETTY COOL to sign his birthday card!


AND WHAT TIME IS IT?

TIME TO….

DRAIN THE SWAMP

Our movement

Is about replacing

A failed

And CORRUPT

Political establishment

With a new government controlled

By you, the American People.

Candidate Donald J. Trump

Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

Now – let’s talk about a video.

A video featuring a guy I know very little about, named David Icke.

I don’t know who this guy is. I know almost nothing about him. But I do know this.

After I watched this, I UNDERSTOOD why Silicon Valley is censoring us and why they DO NOT CARE AT ALL WHAT WE THINK ABOUT IT.

So NOW – please watch this. It’s just 10 minutes.

Here is a back-up link to Icke’s own site:

https://www.davidicke.com/article/539582/will-done-2030-featuring-david-icke


What do you think about this?

To me, the most important point is this:

I believe these Silicon Valley people who are censoring us see the world in a completely different way than we do. I believe they no longer actually care what we think.

I am starting to think that they are actually BLIND to many kinds of thought. They have LOST DISCERNMENT.

Their BRAINS have not resisted some process that WE HAVE. Just like Icke describes.

I am reminded of an episode of the New Outer Limits called “Stream of Consciousness”:

https://www.thetvdb.com/series/the-outer-limits-1995/episodes/78006

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_of_Consciousness_(The_Outer_Limits)

The opening and closing narrations are worth reading.


We quantify our world in order to learn. We break it down into facts, numbers, information. But how far dare we go before we destroy its mystery?


We make tools to extend our abilities, to further our reach, and fulfill our aspirations. But we must never let them define us. For if there is no difference between tool and maker, then who will be left to build the world?


I don’t know the answers to these questions. Nor do I know if, when, or how these questions will be answered. However, I believe that WE have questions that THEY are not even willing to admit are valid questions, much less answer.

Most importantly, I believe that our technological elite lack fundamental moral principles needed to safely do what they are doing. Their moral blind spots are dangerous. The technology they create – with baked-in error – will become dangerous – to itself and everything else.

That’s OK. WE have the Base Designer to fall back on. And we have a FIXER in the White House, too. With God, all FIXES are possible!

W