Something REALLY stinks in China and Iran, and it’s not just the burning bodies.
The TIMELINES simply don’t add up. They are FALLING APART. And you know it’s REAL because somebody is racing to rescue it.
Facebook is now cracking down on “unapproved” posts about the CoronaVirus.
Yeah, Chinaberg. I can do the math.
There was a point, recently, where I found that I could explain a LOT MORE about COVID-19 by abandoning China’s version of events, and coming up with my own. Part of that was explaining my own SARS-like symptoms, from a definite Corona infection that I picked up in mid-January at an “Iran-connected” meeting. Of course, at THAT time, we knew nothing about Iran.
But how could that be? It doesn’t fit the TIMELINE.
Good thing I stayed out of nursing homes for two weeks, thanks to a 5-day induction period, and having seen the DEADLY GRAPH of COVID morbidity vs. age, but it was close. My friend Suspicious Cat may have saved a few old veterans.
vigilanti semper
I’m still not breathing right, by the way. THAT bugs me. It feels very “SARS”.
My wife and neighbor did well, but my neighbor’s wife was hit pretty hard. I think that she, like me, is an ex-smoker.
But it’s more than personal. Things just don’t add up – and I’m not just talking about the NUMBERS, which are OFF. The numbers are showing too many positives too fast in the wrong countries and specific people – meaning those who generally seem too “helpful” to China and Iran if they caught it.
Bolsonaro? Oh, as soon as I saw that near-hit, I realized that I could WRITE THAT OPERATION. The VECTOR DEFLECTOR on that one – oh – that was “too smart”. Y’all know what I’m sayin’? Oh, that was SLICK. I smell Chinese intelligence ALL OVER that.
No – it’s more than just the numbers.
The Chinese communists and the Iranians – poor victims? No. This doesn’t sniff right. Mass graves in Iran that are the BAD GUYS and not the INNOCENT GOOD GUYS? No. That doesn’t sniff right. Execution-style gunfire recorded by half-hidden phones in China, then disappearing from the Fake News here? No. That doesn’t sniff right.
Young doctors dying and disappearing in China? Hmmmm. Maybe there ARE explanations. Maybe these are the SAME duplicitous ChiComs and the SAME scheming Iranians we’ve always known – SNEAKY – LYING – FAKING – HOAXING – TRICKING – and Fake News is simply helping to sell ONE MORE SOCIALIST / GLOBALIST NARRATIVE.
YES. That’s where I am now. There is a NARRATIVE coming from China, Iran, and the Fake News, and I no longer buy it.
With or without death by coronavirus?
I suppose we can thank Rod Rosenstein’s sister, Neutron Nancy, for her early attitude on testing, which OH SO UNFORTUNATELY hid any cases in the United States other than NARRATIVE cases involving cruise ships. And THANK YOU GAIL for that piece of the puzzle, because THAT really helped me see things. They wanted it here. And they wanted it to STICK.
Sorry, this is all bullshit.
And now – NOW – I’m hearing that I’m not the only author here who had a NASTY, NOVEL, RESPIRATORY DISEASE in December or January, where the only reason NOT to think it was probably COVID 19, is the CHINESE / IRANIAN / FAKE NEWS narrative timeline.
SIDEBAR: I am asking all people here who think they may have gotten COVID-19 outside of the Fake News timeline, including those who previously shared information, to please re-post a description of their experience HERE for it to be available to researchers who find this post. The more non-personal details provided, the better.
Wolf Moon 1776
It took ONE OR TWO PEOPLE here to start questioning the ChiCom narrative openly, and all of a sudden – BOOM – many of us who were PRIVATELY questioning it, start questioning it BIGLY and PUBLICLY.
NOW do you see why Mark Chinaberg is having an emergency over at Facebook? They have to shut this stuff down. And they CAN.
That is the beauty of socialist media. Just like China, they can shut it down. Just like 2016, they can support THE HOAX. They have complete control.
Well, too bad, Mark. WE’RE going to discuss it here. We need SKEPTICISM to figure out what’s going on.
SO – I am inviting everybody here to BE HONEST – spill it. What are your thoughts – your speculations – your theories – your questions – your ideas – your inspirations – your absolutes – your certainties – your uncertainties – your fears – your doubts – your revelations – your own experiences – EVERYTHING you think about the CHINESE / IRANIAN / FAKE NEWS narrative surrounding this virus, and what you think is REALLY going on.
Let’s brainstorm this stuff until ChiComs and Fake News Hoaxers are wetting their undies.
SPILL!
W
We’re not the only ones who are wondering if they already had this bug:
https://twitter.com/DilleyShow/status/1239011252522770432?s=20
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Text from Brendan Dilley:
The flu I had in late December/Early January fit the description of Coronavirus to a T.
Complete with fever for a week and horrendous breathing issues.
I documented it pretty well, considering I didn’t miss a single show.
Curious to see how this plays out…
Text from Adam Housley:
Again..this is very cautious optimism. The first responders I spoke with and several doctors say that flu was rough this winter and many people with very similar symptoms to Covid were sent home to recover. Did they already have it? Has it already been thru here?
…………….End of text.
The replies are full of people saying they had the same thing and are wondering if this was already going around here in the US.
Excellent! Thanks for this post!
NOW – let me predict RIGHT HERE AND NOW how the media will DISSEMBLE…..
DENIAL OF EVIDENCE WHICH QUESTIONS THE CURRENT NARRATIVE
ANGER AT THOSE WHO QUESTION THE CURRENT NARRATIVE
DEPRESSION AND DEMORALIZATION OF THE AUDIENCE IN THE FACE OF THE EVIDENCE
BARGAINING TO REACH A NEW ACCEPTABLE NARRATIVE
ACCEPTANCE OF THE NEW ACCEPTABLE NARRATIVE
Oh, I know the FAKE NEWS too well! 😀
Wow, I’m glad I posted about stages of grief over at UTree!
Dang the last few weeks have been a very crazy and painful trip.
Curse the globalists and their plots.
Globalists and their plots. Paybacks a b-b-baby. Lots of babies since there closing lots of places including sports venues. Babies in conservative homes since liberals… well we know what they do.
That said, the Deep State, and I include China with colluding with Deep State wittingly or not in this instance, totally are not going to reach any Georgia Guide Stone goals with this just because of all the closings and Europe might survive because of just this reason.
POTUS just did the right thing – awesome move!
My wife and I have joked about this, every time there is a major shutdown, like a huge snowstorm that shuts down the city and keeps ppl holed up, nine months later there’s a small baby boom 😉
The church nursery director notices it and sees it quite clearly!
Silver Lining. Who ever mentioned it first today said there were already memes being made. Hopefully we’ll see them soon.
From comments…
https://twitter.com/JMURF07/status/1239013849040326657
Good. The “spacey” feeling is the oxygen, IMO – it’s like going up to Rocky Mountain elevations because you’re not getting enough oxygen. This is SARS.
This is also responsible for the initial fainting that people experience. They are suddenly at “high elevation” and feel faint. I experienced this at the beginning – the very first symptom after an asymptomatic prodrome. I felt woozy and lightheaded while out walking, and my wife had to come get me. I felt like I had to call her before I passed out. This really grabbed my attention, and I called out of my nursing home visit which would have taken place 24 hours later.
This is EXACTLY what was seen in China. People are not collapsing because of extreme illness – it’s because the initial strike shifts their oxygen intake in some weird way that they can’t behaviorally account for – like breathing differently – so they pass out.
My personal thinking is that ALL OPTIONS are on the table here. I think that China may have accidentally – but more likely INTENTIONALLY – been releasing SARS variants. I believe they got caught or panicked when we took out Soleimani, who was likely fronting some of the virus ops, and decided they needed to cover up using an incident.
In fact, here is something to think about.
That woman in Mar-a-Lago – what if her primary purpose wasn’t to plant bugs, but to plant a SARS variant? She could have had something like a false heel or other method of containment, and we jumped at the “obvious” malware USB drives.
Chilling thought.
Especially combined with the wierd behavior I witnessed at a Costco in January. Culturally non-American people going through store and picking up items. No cart. Didn’t buy anything. Saw them mostly picking up CHILDREN’s BOOKS.
My illness onset was about a week later. Started with GI distress (day one), then violent nausea with headache (day two), respiratory followed next day.
Did use all the great advice from this site for home self-care. Lots of rest. Sipping broth. Vitamin C, Zinc. Also, clay for GI distress, charcoal for nausea. Argentyn 23 in nebulizer, lots of enzymes (especially serrapeptase and mucolase).
Howdy T³ Good to “see” you!
We had similar experiences here between Christmas and New Years’, with the lack of air, etc. We just thought it was real bad flu, but, looking at the Corona/SARS symptoms, what we had was probably Corona. My sister in CA, who’s a health nut, doesn’t smoke, etc., got hit with something that sounds like this, too. Hit her pretty hard, but she’s OK now.
(My son’s talking about “Left Behind”, the movie(s)… I don’t think we’re there yet…).
Shopping here’s kind of odd, too… Saturday evening at the store, not a single German there… kinda spooked me. Streets MUCH quieter than normal (actually I kind of like that…).
I mentioned that the other day–toooooo many Chinese trespassers lately–at military bases, Mar-a-lago…they were trying to plant the virus then already.
Military bases? Interesting. Missed that one. But makes sense. Asymmetric as hell.
forget now which one…but they drove thru the base instead of turning around as they were instructed to when they were denied entry…gonna look for it…
can’t figure out how to link the article…from nbc news…
On a Wednesday afternoon in mid-December, a Chinese woman entered the grounds of President Donald Trump’s private Mar-a-Lago club in Florida through a service entrance and snapped photos on her cellphone. “Who is Mar-a-Lago?” she said in court following her arrest.
Eight days later, a Chinese student walked around a perimeter fence at a U.S. naval base in Key West, taking pictures of government buildings. Stopped by police, he said he was trying to capture images of the sunrise.
And nine days after that, two more Chinese students drove past a guard at the same naval base. When stopped by security 30 minutes later, they voluntarily displayed the videos and photos they had taken of the base.
Were the incidents isolated cases of tourists mistakenly taking photos in sensitive locations? Or could some or all of the people be part of a spy operation run out of Beijing?
Federal authorities are working to answer those questions. FBI counterintelligence agents are investigating whether the spate of incidents might be part of a coordinated espionage effort, according to a U.S. official and another person familiar with the matter.
In total, four Chinese men have been arrested for trespassing and taking photos at Naval Air Station Key West since September 2018, and two Chinese women have been arrested for trespassing at Mar-a-Lago since March 2019.
Feb. 23, 2020, 7:05 AM EST
By Anna Schecter and Tom Winter
This happened at Ft. Lewis in the just the last couple days! Three or four people tried to run the gate withina day or two.. They were stopped, but it put the soldiers on edge, and one of the gates was closed.
Here are a couple of the stories.
DECEMBER 16, 2019 Report: Chinese officials sped past military guards and drove around US spec ops base in Virginia
“Two Chinese Embassy officials were caught trespassing on a Virginia military base in late September and expelled from the country, a new report says.”
December 28, 2019 Chinese National Charged With Trespassing, Photographing US Naval Base (on Dec 26)
https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-national-charged-with-trespassing-and-photographing-us-naval-base_3187200.html
Feb. 23, 2020, Were these six Chinese trespassers confused tourists or spies? The FBI wants to know.
FBI counterintelligence agents are probing whether the spate of incidents at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club and a military site might be part of a coordinated espionage effort.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/were-these-six-chinese-trespassers-confused-tourists-or-spies-fbi-n1140496
They’re going to dismiss these reports as “anecdotal” and “lacking credibility”, “not verified by a physician or through clinical testing”
Remember, Coronavirus does not present “flu like symptoms” strictly speaking. This report does not describe the dry cough, fever, or the lung/respiration problems.
According to Dr. Birx, right now they are seeing 98-99% negativity in testing, meaning that a lot of other illness is presenting that is not Coronavirus. We need to keep that in mind b/c this is the season where many viruses get passed around.
That said, the fact that people are questioning the official timeline/narrative is fascinating and very much worth noting.
Yup. One of the things that has to be kept in mind is how BAD the testing actually is on these things. It’s BAD. The scientific papers do not inspire confidence in the results. False negatives, false positives – very nasty.
And I’ll be even more blunt. How do we know the ChiComs haven’t made progress weaponizing FLU, too?
Researchers need to look at all research coming out of China as potential disinformation, IMO.
I keep thinking about the medical leaps forward that Trump describes . . . Reduce the exposure and proliferation at the outset.
He said clearly he’s been talking with Xi. Those are NOT public convos, and I think we know why. NATSEC.
“. . . my conversations with President Xi – and they know where it came from. We all know where it came from.”
I think China is “improving” because POTUS has them by the ⚽🎱🏀⚾🏐🏈🥎🏉 well, you know.
Yup. I can see it.
See video below – the Gates Connection – Level 4 Lab in Canada – transferred to Level 4 Lab in Wuhan
The other point Dr. Birx stressed is the test is “as of a point in time.” It only means you were negative when the test was taken, not that you are immune from getting it afterwards.
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Another…
https://twitter.com/sylviecola/status/1239019139689111553
Hi T*3! …It’s great to see you!
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This is so important. It’s got my full attention.
Wolf has me convinced we need to make the ChiGatesSorosNazis sorry they EVER tried to pull a stunt like this.
OUR PRECIOUS ELDERS MUST BE PROTECTED!!!
Not diminishing elders must be protected.
The real ChiCom goal is global dominance. Destroy western economies. Promote globalism Latter WILL die as a direct result President Trump America First, Nationalism, pursuing fair trade, disengage from China, global countries realizing ChiCom evil, AND Corona intentionally (or not) unleashed by ChiComs / Iranians. I’ve been on the intentional release mode for a couple weeks now.
Yeah, I have too especially after the OBAMA – SES INFESTED CDC did everything they could to make sure the virus spread.
The way I see it, the ChiCom-Democrat plot was that the old people would die in viral criticality events like Northern Italy and Wuhan, but here in the US. This would be designed to turn the older base against Trump and reduce enthusiasm to go to the polls for him. They have to make us think that Trump doesn’t care about us, so that WE don’t care about him.
The EVIL TRICK is that they HOAXED the timeline to mislead us, and introduced the virus EARLY into the United States while were were misdirected and hypnotized on the cruise ships – a very intentional “look squirrel” to set our timelines – then coming into port in Blue Zones – again – to set our timelines. But the virus was already here and raging. What this does is makes us all (and especially Trump) miscalculate what it takes to stop it, and WHEN to act.
But POTUS acted FAST at every opportunity, and has foiled their plans to create critical events – at least so far.
These people are very evil.
I’ve been busy. I’m sure this has been announced, but the Illinois governor says restaurants are not to be open for service after tomorrow, except for some carry-out or delivery. That will be the end for many little non-corporate ones. Our idiot governor was angry people went to the St. Patrick’s day parade so he’s getting back at the whole state. It’s insane, and people are very angry. Nanny state. Hate it.
Was just over at thedonald.win, and a poster asked if anyone else felt like they already had this flu back in December?
friends and family tested negative for flu, but were sick…lingering dry hacking cough.
He says he thinks now it may a been a weaker sarin?
seeing through some things that do not seem quite right.
45 comments…quite the discussion.
that was supposed to be ” a weaker strain”…mysterious.
A weaker strain of fail?
Practice run???
Allowing for a lot of disinformative science (see climate scam) coming out of Beijing, meaning don’t trust their stories on weaker and stronger strains (we don’t see held-back stuff – I know how this works – spuds lodged into pubs processes), I can see plenty of shell game here, counting on their American shills to fulfill narrative dispersal and reinforcement.
Trust OUR OWN observations on strains and see what that says. I think they bombed themselves with strong strain for camera effect and then put out the fire with a weak strain backburn. Would sure explain what we saw. Strong strain bioweapon testing on uprising prisoners is then the bodies in Iran. Saw article by a woman who caught it in an Iranian prison. Yeah, I’ll bet she did. Perfect lab.
That’s what I’ve thought. Tried explaining this theory to particular family members, and they just shoot it down.
Wheatie, good catch. December 17th
Urgent care New Year’s Day. 2 month cough.
That actually sounds like pertussis, which no one tests for in adults. It’s actually more common for adults to get it than realized.
“Dilley-I’m a first responder in south western Ohio. We’ve been seeing this since late November. I thought about you as well as the signs & symptoms were more defined over the past couple weeks. This has been here awhile. …”
“Whatever I caught after returning from Las Vegas in November must have been a test run of this COVID19…
dry hack, chest compression, fever, and chills…
from the onset to the end of all symptoms was about 2 weeks. It was something new, never felt something like it ever”
You are NOT going to believe this, but I’ve been questioning if I had it. It’s the first time I’ve had a fever (lasted several days) in decades, and the fatigue and the damn cough were the worst part. I could barely breathe, and found out I had slight pneumonia. No medications helped, and my abdominal muscles were so weak from the chronic HARD coughing, I could barely take it anymore.
Wanna hear the weird part? It hit me 1 week after being in Vegas.
Even more interesting…it was in JANUARY of 2019.
“You kept saying you were losing your breath and that’s one of the main symptoms! I had something mid-December, not sure if it was CoVid-19. Many in my family caught it from my brother-in-law, who just happens to work at an international airport. Thinking face”
Yup. It’s blowing up. All it took was people to doubt the Fake News timeline.
Nobody falling over in the street either. Where’s that?
Yup. And we won’t see it either, because (1) it’s just lightheadedness, but because Americans have actual health insurance and hospitalization guarantees, there is no need to go drama queen to get admitted to a hospital here, and/or (2) we are not doing a PSY-OP like the ChiComs were, who (IMO) had to convince us of their kabuki outbreak to cover up their SARS biowarfare adventurism.
I’d put 2 before 1 on that one, but both good points.
If internet is censored and so tightly locked down in China, HOW and WHY did so many horrendous videos get out? Purposely staged and released to stoke global fear? Why did they magically stop just as China is recovered and ready to go back to work?
Wolf – see my post just above. I had the same symptoms in January of 2019!
Over a year later, my lungs still don’t feel right. And I still have an occasional dry cough. Other than that, I feel fine, but whatever I had was different than anything else I’ve experienced.
I watch Dilley’s podcast every day, and you could see the moment this hit him. The timing was around the last week in Dec I think. Unfortunately, I don’t see those older shows on his periscope link, but it was unsettling to see the moment it hit him.
You all know kiddo was sick starting Thanksgiving weekend and it didnt clear for 2 months and using 2 different inhalers, flonase, 2 separate courses of ABX, zyrtec, benadryl, and copious amounts of tissue. Mr gil was sick for 2 weeks but tired for plus 2 more. I avoided all until the end. And you know, I isolated each of us and heavy cleaned toilets, doorknobs, etc. at the time.
No fevers here though.
I came rushing over to find today’s daily thread . . . but this is a better place to post.
My latest tweak to my theory. First the quotes.
WTF: Gates Foundation Sponsored Training for ‘Fictional’ Coronavirus Outbreak That Caused 65 Million Deaths Last Year
*https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wtf-gates-foundation-sponsored-training-for-fictional-coronavirus-outbreak-that-caused-65-million-deaths-last-year/
As quoted here:
Trump: “They wanna kill our cows! That means you’re next!”
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/01/trump-they-wanna-kill-our-cows-that-means-youre-next/
READ THAT AGAIN:
“The world needs to prepare for pandemics in the same serious way it prepares for war.”
War, as in WWIV.
War, as in what Trump is fighting against with an all of government, all of America approach – a war on Coronavirus.
Which he is also very carefully guarding NATSEC on.
Coronavirus Task Force Press Conference Friday the 13th:
Some off the cuff remarks. He has to protect classified intel, I think explains the awkward construction.
Trump is preparing a NATIONAL system for countering FUTURE biowarfare, bioTANGO, as well as pandemic response.
He is creating a NATIONAL WARFARE LEVEL DEFENSE RESPONSE.
He is refusing to use the GLOBALIST template for how to construct it, which they had HOPED to get pushed through.
Instead Trump is using HIS EXPERTS that can be trusted, NOT the Gates experts who were handpicked globalists who believe in U.N. and WHO bureaucratic strategies.
People who can “manage” the pandemic and, ahem, the “collateral damage”. Read: Tuning the response for, ahem, effectiveness.
Trump envisions a radically different structure, and one resilient to KNOWN FUTURE globalist events. He wants the power to remain with the American people and not be a massive globalist power grab. He wants these capabilities at HOME. He wants a system that WORKS, Protects People, is EFFECTIVE, ACCOUNTABLE, and that provides a STRONG DEFENSE AGAINST ALL BIO EVENTS OF ANY KIND.
He will NOT let Globalist Gates set the FAKE STANDARD for pandemic prevention.
If Gates wants a “prepare for war” level response, WELL. He just got his “wish”. His nightmare has come true.
Remember our friendly black helicopters about a year ago at this time at the Guatemalan House of Culture? I think a review is in order.
Gail had a piece in today’s, I guess yesterdays, daily about Dr. Fauci and how Dr. Boyle had concerns given Fauci’s associations with NC University at the time (5yrs ago) that the University was getting paid by China and having that Chinese Professor from the Wuhan Institute of Virology work on SARS related research involving bats among a host of other similar projects. So I guess what I’m saying is POTUS has to be careful about some of these experts he’s surrounding himself with. Rosenstien’s sister being a good example. One can’t assume all the experts put science above politics and that extends right down the line and gets nastier at the State Level in my opinion. Some one posted today about a one of the State’s Chief Medical people ending his briefing on COVID 19 about needing to get the current Administration replaced if we want to solve the Pandemic. Total BS, however they don’t need to be so overt to cause damage. Little screw ups here or there, misinformation, false positives, pretty much what ever sly thing they can come up with to damage the Administration.
Meanwhile The China involvement with the University of NC isn’t just some conspiracy theory. There’s a ton of information the University’s Research site that tie China and that Professor directly to working on what amounts to Bio Warfare projects. The only problem is the information is dense and takes some one like Gail to wade through it, which she has but the information needs to be pared down if we want to be able to share it.
Excellent post. Will discuss more later – must bail now.
Same. Maybe the use of ‘Vectors’ and sloppy Bio Warfare in the morning.
Don’t Forget! We’re onto something BIG here.
Drop 3842 was Feb 7. I’ve pointed out many times how academia is BOUGHT OFF by dirty money on a grand scale. They aren’t research institutions or education – they are financial institutions. We were having major problems with China ten and fifteen years ago when I was in academia. I am very hopeful that some HOUSECLEANING will be on the table very shortly.
You may be right on Dr. Fauci but there are other resources on the team to keep the operation in check.
Let’s take a closer look here JUST TO PROVE THE POINT – that I think it is EASY to miss (heck, I almost missed it):
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related
Dr. Charles Lieber
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017.
Hoping M. Pompeo can shut all that down. Good effort so far.
Michaelh, please do tell me about the black helicopters at the Guatamalan house of culture. I am so glad we have our Trump, but I wonder what all is stuffed into that Corona virus bill rammed through in the middle of the night as Gomert talked about.
TTT, good to see you and glad all you sickies have gotten well, or at least are on the mend. I had something that sounds very similar maybe six or seven years ago, but I need to check the date, Could not get my breath, went to convenient care after suffering for several weeks and got a breathing treatment, which did not help. I took my father’s old stand-by, KI. I had a dry cough, but felt like something needed to be loosened up in my lungs. I went to bed some nights and wondered if I might not wake up. Not sure if I had a fever or not. I could have as did not take my temp.
Maybe Wolf or some of the other folks can do a better job of remembering the details. We had some lengthy discussions when it happened.
I think it was last March, thought it may have been later, where a “training exercise” was staged over the Port of Las Angeles in which several military helicopters circled the port.
What was not well publicized, but which several people had eye-witness and video evidence, is that at least two helicopters flew through the city canyon. This is a huge red-flag b/c flying a helicopter in between civilian structures is a huge no-no b/c the risk is WAY too high. So immediately people recognized that this was not merely a training exercise. People also observed that all their phones and devices totally lost all signals until after the helo’s flew past – they had jammers on.
The helos landed at a city intersection and a contingent of soldiers unloaded. They surrounded an abandoned building. Several minutes later, a dozen or so people came out wearing some kind of hazmat suits and carrying some kind of large box or cooler, and loaded it on the helicopter. All of this had amateur video evidence backing it up.
The next day:
* The Guatamalan house of culture was boarded up, as if all the windows had been blown out from the inside
* Ground reports confirmed that the Wells Fargo directly across the screen had a door which had clearly been broken down
* Wells Fargo announced a TOTAL COMPUTER OUTAGE for a 24+ hour period. Not just the web site but ALL financial processing include mortgage processing. It was big enough that is was its own separate news story.
* It was noted that the Guatamalan house of culture was scheduled for demolition in the next month
* Further noted that the Guatamalan house of culture was next to the legal offices for the lawyers representing NXIVM
* Further noted that the congressional district was that of Adam Schiff
* Further noted that the Standard Hotel was about a block away and had some kind of municipal tunnel connection (subway?) with the site
* Further noted that both Adam Schiff and Maxine Water’s homes were in extraordinarily close proximity
* There have long been reports about Adam Schiff and his relationship with the Standard Hotel.
* Reports surfaced of similar helicopter+jamming activity in the same area a day or so earlier affecting the neighborhood around Maxine Water’s homes
* Several media reports surfaced over the next few days about more helicopter training exercises, in Washington D.C., Salt Lake City, and other locations. The report for the Salt Lake City training included a helicopter flying over (landing on?) the roof of a building with the name “Wells Fargo” clearly visible.
* FWIW, separate discussion, Wells Fargo is a bad company.
* The Port of Las Angeles was sold(?) to China investment during the Obama Administration, approved by CFIUS. Under Mnuchin CFIUS is or has reviewed the decision and, I believe, forcing Chinese divestment from the port which was improperly allowed to be sold to Chinese investment. All this happened in Adam Schiff’s district.
The general speculation is that the mystery box was a bio agent brought in via the Port of Las Angeles, and transferred to the abandoned Guatamalan house of culture. The “black helicopters” are an elite cavalry unit that operates at the pleasure of the President. Based on their mode of flying – low and tight with civilian structures rather than high and visible with lights on – this was an operation. The belief is that they had actionable intel and raided the Guatamalan house of culture in a manner that I would describe as “we aren’t playing games”. The connection with NXIVM is suspect – others had some interesting things to say about the lawyers and what happened with them in the coming days but I did not chase this down and don’t recall. The Wells Fargo connection appears to be that their computer network was being used as a private communication channel by the bad guys. Remember those jammers? Cell phones would be inoperable and having a physical network, and a private non-public network, was critical to maintain their communication. Wells Fargo was perfectly staged and would have been ripe with connected insiders that could be used. It is believed that the Cyber elements of the military OP came in and took total control of the Wells Fargo network starting with the core routers, shut down all communication, and for the next 24 hours controlled the network to gather evidence, giving strict orders to Wells Fargo leadership and IT that none of this was to be discussed publicly. Further speculation is that the box was “Plan Z” – staging it at the Guatamalan house of culture was a fall-back position, effectively a dead man’s switch, that if it were in the building during demolition, even if all the key actors were arrested, it would be inadvertently released.
Now all of the above I’m going from memory on so somebody else can correct or add other details.
Thank you, MichaelH, I think you did a fine job. I did not recognize this referred to the Standard and XVIM Etc., but I was missing a lot of t
hese details so appreciate the refresher.HH
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tel episode, which I knew a little about–Schiff and nxivm. Making a mess of my response, but you get the idea. Anyway, I missed much of this detail or forgot.
Recall most of the above. No doubt in my mind, truly secret and elite military unit(s) stopped some evil stuff from happening on America. At Long Beach Port and downtown LA. Other reports of black helicopter operations surely happened.
Feb 12, 2019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8i2w9o9z0o
Wow. Now I’m really starting to wonder about the flu I had right after Thanksgiving that lasted most of December. It really surprised me because I don’t think I’ve had the flu at all in the last 25 years. I’m in my 60s, but in really good health. This really knocked me out.
If you had shortness of breath as a significant symptom, then a SARS jumps to the top of the list. But I also think we need to be broader in terms of what we think the ChiNazis might be doing.
We did supposedly have a “bad flu vaccine” this year, but AND LOGIC for the win. What if we had lots of SARS-ish CORONA as well because of the CHICOMS? Makes sense if we had BOTH.
And one MORE thing, in terms of “it’s just influenza”.
I’ll be very blunt. I don’t put it past those fucking ChiComs to try to mutate flu variants to get around our vaccines, and then push infections that nail US and not them. It would be pretty straightforward.
The Maoist war-fighting doctrine is FILLED with “death by a thousand cuts” / “nickel and dime them to death” strategies. They are amoral at best and immoral when they can get away with it.
Speculation, sure. But I will tell you, I know professionals who know the ChiComs, and THEY are way more suspicious of them than I am. For every Suspicious Cat I have, they have 3 or 4.
Yes, I did have shortness of breath and at times I thought I was going to pass out. And for awhile I was coughing like crazy but nothing was coming up. Grrrrr. This makes me so angry.
Oooooooh. Yeah, that sounds like what I had in terms of the faintness. I didn’t cough much, but I have a very low cough reflex. I never need cough syrup. It’s all voluntary.
I’m fairly sure I’ve had no flu, however the nose has been strangely wet for the longest time, which might just be the vitamin C I started taking at the end of Jan. I usually don’t spend but a few hours a week away from the house and have no guests ever which makes me wonder on the dosing of this virus. Besides getting a strong bit of virus, is it in anyway accumulative. That is, if you come in contact with it often does it build up to a point where it runs rampant and over comes your immune responses. I’d assume that to be the case, but I’ve not heard it discussed like that per say.
There is a lot we don’t know about this HIV functional hybrid, which very likely leads toward persistence. Functional hybridization is beautiful science – the gateway to alien hybridization (see Star Trek) and next level stuff in general, but fraught with BS like what we’re seeing. The allure of those damn spikes to amoral scientists raised to the lack of standards of our “fake science” is like fresh roadkill to crows – irresistible – and worth braving pandemic car bumpers to them.
Watch Fake Science’s version of Chris Wray suggest bias training! Ha! How about some damn church?! 😉
Rod’s sister coming out with that early statement that (a) pushed panic, (b) pushed narrative, and (c) didn’t have a SINGLE positive action item in it was decidedly out-of-character for the CDC. I’m sure they have disclosure guidelines which say, “ALWAYS RECOMMEND SOMETHING USEFUL.”
Yes! That incident struck me as a kind of “go for broke” / “last chance” effort by her to throw a bone to the coup.
Where’s the open thread? Over at Utree?
What’s an open thread? 😉
Seriously, I think that Carl just left off the date on the Open Thread.
I think people are waiting for me to be pedantic about it, but it’s a National Day of Prayer. If he wants to call it “God Speaks”, I’m OK with it.
Maybe we can take a vote! 😀
My sarcasm tint was too light. Sorry.
And pedantic? No, anything but that.
HA! OK! Gotcha!!! 😀
Just assumes because its Sunday night, Bakocarl isn’t letting anything else share space with God. I’m sure T-3 would approve.
Pendantic. Two days in a row I had the urge to Google a word. Yesterday Muggles. Learn something everyday here QTree 🙂
Could be…….
MARS NEEDS WOMEN – AND MEN!!!
I seriously doubt the Cabal, Deep State and all the petty tyrants (dems included) trust freedom oriented people in Space. They want us right here under their thumb.
Wolf, this ties in with your theory of SARS stuff being seeded around for a LONG TIME…
“Two years ago I was sick for 12 weeks with the most horrible cough and trouble breathing, and fever that came and went for weeks. Negative flu. Chest x-ray showed “something slight” but wasn’t pneumonia. Went through 2 courses antibiotics + steroids. I think this has been around.
https://twitter.com/MamaSicilianaa/status/1239036232845295616
Yup. That gives a few years of warm-up time from bats to deployment – an eternity in Gottlieb CIA amoral op universe.
Yep. I posted above I had these symptoms in January, 2019. I don’t believe it all just started a few months ago, either.
Okay, here are the Seattle Flu Study links…
https://mynorthwest.com/1758762/coronavirus-washington-seattle-flu-study/
https://www.businessinsider.com/seattle-flu-study-coronavirus-testing-washington-2020-3
Site … https://seattleflu.org/faq
One patient’s story …
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/seattle-woman-shares-her-coronavirus-experience
YES! The numbness in the extremities is AGAIN an oxygen imbalance symptom, IMO. The others all had it, too. Notice that they’re all youngish, but HIGHLY contagious. Fast recovery.
I really don’t want to over-publish family details, but here’s what I shared on yesterday’s daily thread:
Both my wife and I had it, and one of the kids had it.
It was very strange but it was also mild in our experience, compared to some of the doozies we have had to deal with.
Keep in mind that with our kids we ALWAYS get diseases this time of year.
The WALL means more than you know.
Separate incident, not Coronavirus.
December [##] Christmas Parade. Took kids to fast food restaurant afterward.
A young hispanic kid, probably about seven, was in the dining room, not being supervised. He had spots all over him. [Sans details.]
He was going around the dining room touching kids.
He especially liked the baby and made sure to rub her head real good before we could react.
Seven days later the baby starts showing extremely bad spots.
Rush her to doctor, and she has an extreme case of hand foot and mouth disease.
Five days later, I come down with a nasty fever and exhaustion. The next day I have terrible itching in my hands and feet – itching was so bad I had a very hard time sleeping. Then I started getting severe spots on my hands and feet and elsewhere.
Triggered a secondary infection. Painful. Drained half a teaspoon of pus. I rushed in to the Doctor who confirmed, and gave me a two week antibiotic treatment.
My wife came down with a fever, and soon she was exhibiting very bad spots. Likewise she also had to see the doctor for a different type of secondary infection.
I had flaking skin for weeks.
Most likely the kid had gotten it from the border region of South Texas, it had come up from Mexico.
Some people say that the pathogens modify our behavior to make us more “social” when we are infected. I’ve heard some shocking stories that track with that theory.
Also, doctors are the worst. They gut it through and go to work sick all the time.
I see this all the time. I call it “viral behavior.” Fake illness martyrs who insist on coming to work with a cough, sneezing, and/or fever. Customers openly stating that they’re sick. Coworkers who try to get as close as possible to you even as you try to keep a distance. Viruses manipulate their hosts– it’s what they do. How else might they be manipulating our behavior?
What a nightmare, Michael.
😬😦 Yikes.
I’m sorry that you and your family went through that ordeal!
Can’t help but wonder if that young hispanic kid had been instructed to go around and touch kids.
😕🤔
Detain the kid, see who comes pick him up and check to see if that person is a family member or not.
Our “guests” (aka refauxgees) from far south and the middle east bring their sick kids with them to the store, and then let them cough over and paw the merchandise. The parents think it’s funny.
Maybe they’re being a parasite trying to kill their host(s)… in an infectious-behaviour sort of way…
I had forgotten all about this one!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand%2C_foot%2C_and_mouth_disease
HF&M is coxsackie virus, has some very nasty strains. Look at all of these patents to play cut/paste with. Gateway pundit has a good article on Gates Foundation & virus.
Good – thanks for repeating that. You seem like a classic younger age group to get a lighter case of COVID, if that is what it was. My money is leaning toward the idea that it was.
My illness was actually pretty mild except for the RESPIRATORY SYMPTOMS – which were weirdly FUNCTIONAL – not painful or annoying. My cough was dry, my fever mild, with some weird aches around my kidneys. There was an oddly placed headache that my wife had, too, in the exact same spot.
I’ll try to find my notes about it.
That wierd aches around kidneys thing. For me it was sharp pain behind the one kidney that always gives me sharp pain when it’s struggling. I took baking soda for that. It worked.
Had something similar very recently. Never experienced it before. Was actually thinking I might need to see a doctor asap, but took an aspirin and practiced a bastardized form of Tai Chi & Qigong for about fifteen minutes and it resolved immediately.
We have more power to help ourselves than we realize. 🙂
I don’t recall any pain in kidneys or groin specifically. I do think I had extra headaches b/c I took extra acetaminophen during that time to knock them back. It was really annoying to me b/c my doctor had me off ibuprofen for multiple weeks so I was having to make do.
Ibuprofen is great for pain…but unfortunately, it can exacerbate breathing problems.
Good. Glad I didn’t take it!!!
Another detail, we did all complain about an annoying sore throat. The kid was very noisy about it.
Man, jogging some nearly lost memories – upthread discussion about feeling “wuzy”
I vaguely remember feeling wuzy and lightheaded, at risk of fainting while at work.
I had had an episode at work [sans THAT story!] back in 2018. So more recently when I started feeling weird, I SAT DOWN. I didn’t want a repeat of THAT again at work! It seemed to take a while to dissipate, and a couple times I wasn’t sure if I was going to pull through the feelings of weakness I was having.
I was trying to figure out if it was the medication I was on, or one of my blood conditions . . . frustrating problems but I didn’t even think to connect it to a virus.
In my mind it all manifested as “Man I am not feeling right, AGAIN . . .”
You know I’ve had so many different exposures it’s always hard to tell what exactly is happening. But I’m thinking that’s connected.
Here’s my experience, which I previously wrote on the Prayer thread.
I got sick about a week before Christmas, and it lasted about a month. It began with fever, and at the time I thought it was weird that I didn’t have the usual cold or flu symptoms — no sore throat, runny nose, etc. I think the highest my temperature reached was 103. After about four days the fever subsided, but I was weak and had a cough for several more weeks. It was not the “coughing up your lungs” kind of cough that comes with bronchitis or pneumonia. I did not have shortness of breath, but I felt like I needed steam for my bronchial tubes, and used steam infused with tea tree oil. I thought at the time that it must be a different strain of a cold or flu. I self-quarantined to keep from exposing family members — missing our family Christmas gathering for the first time ever — and also because I didn’t feel like going anywhere.
I wonder if there’s a way to tell if people have recovered from COVID-19.
There may be an antibody test that can tell. That would be useful!!!
Maybe a test could even tell if a person had been vaccinated (hint, hint, ChiCom plot proven).
What if they put in a lifespan limit? Sort of like the replicants in Blade Runner. Then you would be able to infect a population, wait while they die off and/or break down, then move in and take over after a certain period of time when it’s safe for your soldiers.
Unfortunately, there isn’t an antibody test. Current tests have to find an actual virus, and that can be very difficult to do. This means lots of false negatives.
Also, I can’t help but notice the clamor for “testing” from the MSM, WHO, and other globalist entities. It occurred to me that “testing” for a corona virus is like testing for the common cold (also caused by a constantly mutating corona virus): ultimately futile. Either one has it or one doesn’t. And there’s no medical “cure,” also like the common cold. In that light, funding for “testing” is starting to look like political pork transferring massive amounts of federal money into the coffers of Big Pharma in the context of an “emergency.”
Exactly. Its akin to chasing phantoms and will produce minimal result except to spread hysteria and build fake empires given the amount of cash involved (8 billion) for the peons in politics and the med profession who act unethically or stupidly and trillions from market crash for the Cabal.
Yep. Probably to make up for the reduced profits, etc., due to VSGPDJT negotiating the prices of meds downward. Big Pharma are trying to appear as being altruistic/generous/etc., but are just giving with one hand, and taking (even more) back with the other.
Wonder where the US Chamber-of-Chinese-Commerce is on this one???
I’m amazed how I keep coming back to the same points over again as I think through this.
Earlier hybrid warfare discussion – kind of a slap-dash primer on the subject:
20200228: Attention all QTreeps, Need Your Help, Please.
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/20200228-attention-all-qtreeps-need-your-help-please/comment-page-3/#comment-414165
Next my thinking on how this maps to WWIV as hybrid war:
Reposting from:
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/20200228-attention-all-qtreeps-need-your-help-please/comment-page-3/#comment-414179
The following is not updated from March 1st; that said it was intended to be potentially a living outline with updates/changes as more facts became known.
Scattered thoughts on Coronavirus as Hybrid Warfare and/or Hybrid Warfare Experiment
Bill Gates:
Assigned Pandemic orchestration
Ground prep for academic plausibility and discourse
Create groundwork for later media hysteria
Assigned role of weakening Food Supply, particular Beef and Dairy
+Famines? Locusts?
Instigate market Crash
George Soros:
Assigned inbound immigration/refugee influx – Open Borders Plan
Pandemic Amplification
NGO activity in Central/South America
Infiltrate and Undermine Religious Opposition
+ Reduce Trump base
Other Actors:
Barry
+Venezuela (Hugo Chavez)
News Media Actors
Hollywood
DS actors
+CDC link to [RR]
…add others…
Hybrid warfare categories:
Bio:
Release engineered nCoV
Observe effects ground level Wuhan
Monitor response, identify weaknesses
Gather before and after data, determine efficacy of attack
Prop & PsyOp:
Hollywood ground prep – endless pandemic films, post-apocalyptic film, sold to masses
News Media – Hype, fear pr0n, blame-cast to Trump
Economic:
Dramatically shake up supply chains
Monitor impact on supply chains
Trigger massive stock sell off
Profit from bear market
Trigger 2020 recession pre-Election – undermine Trump achievements/vote
Worldview:
Soros target to infiltrate and support open borders plans
* Catholic Church
* SBC via ERLC
* PCA via Tim Keller
* UMC (currently in split)
* Others (Episcopal/Anglican, Lutheran, etc.)
Targeted doctrinal change:
– Promote Refugees via EIT
– Support social justice causes (manipulated toward Soros ends) and undermine gospel
– Undermine pro-life support, confuse pro-life with social justice
– Split Evangelical + Catholic vote from Trump
– Push Dem support. Make Trump unthinkable, make Democrats seem moral
– Use LGBT issues as a wedge in the church, ie. “Revoice”
– Transgenderism – undermine and stop opposition
CO-PROP: GOD WINS!
DS Follow up Plan
Democrat Clown Car:
– Massive Taxes (Venezuela Model)
– Destroy Healthcare options
– Destroy U.S. medical/vaccine/research
– Above prep for future exploit
Pandemic Test / BioW Experiment
Phase 1: nCoV, massive real world experiment
(Real world trial. Similar to China intentionally crashing its own satellite.)
Phase 2, after results gathered
CALI Gov’s in on plan
Pelosi a key player – Pink Tie signaling from Trump?
Hybrid Proxy wars (Trump puts end to “endless wars”)
Revelation 6:1-8 – Four Horsemen
Conquest
War
Famine
Death
Note: I did mention the Cyber domain of Hybrid warfare in a separate comment:
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/20200228-attention-all-qtreeps-need-your-help-please/comment-page-2/#comment-413704
Now the Cyber domain has criminal threat actors trying to exploit the Coronavirus panic with phishing emails and fake maps that deploy malware.
Reposting from the 20200308 daily thread . . .
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/08/dear-kmag-20200308-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-421370
Virus maps that spread malware? Like this — https://krebsonsecurity.com/2020/03/live-coronavirus-map-used-to-spread-malware/ ?
YEP, that’s the one!
Remember the other day someone posted that every time she puts up the link to that map it goes to spam?
Maybe wurst press is helping sometimes…
Do they get their instructions at Bilderberg?
A war of this magnitude and scope would involve considerable resource and preparation. As you said, gathering data being part of it.
For that reason I’d not be surprised if the Vaping Controversy was part of the gathering data phase. A dry run for what’s going on now. Both this virus and the Vape thing involved elements of truth mixed with fiction and both created hysteria. The amount of data gleaned in the Vaping flap could easily have been expanded to serve pys-ops being directed against us now if you think of all the things that could have been learned if mapped and charted. How to insert false information and to whom. Who would pass it on, what comms platforms they would use. Who expanded the hysteria best. Who would not bother to error check information. Which audiences were most receptive to the information, which audiences would echo the information. Which had most influence with various government orgs and decision makers across a wide spectrum. You could also determine your resistance points and feed that information in to channeling, blocking and eliminating targets of resistance with various tools that span minimal contact to full contact.
This of course goes into feeding the MSM, something already being done, but it gets deeper and spreads wider by being able to co-locate all the data points available and then synthesize that data to fashion stratagems and tactics and the vape controversy fitted the mold for what they want to do now.
It would take a lot of computational power to pull something like this off and the same amount of power to see if it was actually done if they knew what to look for.
Someone recently posted a video that demonstrates such power being wielded where individual decisions / execution of those decisions in one part of a conglomerate of vast organizations were examined in real time and were evaluated, altered, questioned, reported upon, delayed and or out right stopped in matter of minutes and or hours. Quite stunning to have watched that and think that all those data points are out there and being acted upon.
And that amount of computational power is held by Amazon (AWS), Google, perhaps Farcebork, and of course the many national computing centers (e.g. China, UK, France, Germany, etc.). And China probably has the second most, thanks to their stealing our technology…
(Have to say though, if such incredible decision support systems can be created, how come all the ERP systems out there are such crap…). (CRP 😆 )
Yep!
And for the last: It’s like the MLS realtor’s use for helping you get or sell a home. Or Level II Qoute data for trading stocks, and the fact that only special organizations can get access to Level IIl Qoute data. You have to one pay for it and two be allowed access.
Also GIS programs are the same way and deal with all kinds of data points in various subject areas with many that cross over into other areas. Really amazing stuff that can be realized once they line up all those data points.
Personally I think you can trace it all back to libraries and the controls held over those even to this day where they treat the information as propitiatory. Its less of a wonder why many ancient libraries were destroyed in antiquity.
Okay, more than needed. But I could not resist.
para59r,
Yup, great insight, William Cooper wrote/described the worlds economy supply and demand using same processes but using electrical terms , able to choose winners and losers,-mkt manipulation
info is the spice .
Allison posted these tweets on the open thread and I’m reposting because they definitely apply to this discussion:
https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1238989172649558018
Since you asked…Sometime between Thanksgiving and Christmas I came down with something. I rarely get sick even being around the young grands. Whatever this was was awful, some cough but I almost felt so weak that I couldn’t cough. I never get a flu shot but this was the first time to get the flu and truly I thought I might die, it was that bad.
I went to a doc-in-the-box at CVS drug store. They don’t get too involved or tell you to get tested for anything. They wrote a prescription for antibiotics and an inhaler. It took a couple weeks to feel myself.
My daughter had some respiratory thing around that time also that lasted forever. She was on several meds ..would get better and then go back to the dr again to try something else. Hers lasted several weeks.
Thanks! Glad you’re better now. Do you think that what you and your daughter had were the same thing, even if possibly with slightly different symptoms?
I don’t think so. Mine appeared to be more flu like..fever, chills, weakness. Hers was all respiratory and even though she had been to the dr several times no specific diagnosis was ever given.
Interesting!
The ChiComs are lying!
Check out this video showing the ‘rehearsal’ for the fake event that Xi participated in:
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1239067949438205952?s=20
Donald Trump don’t trust China, China is asshole!!!
Best advice EVER!!!
Yup. PR. Very ChiCom. “It’s not how you feel – it’s how you LOOK!”
Want to point out that this post followed a lot of incredibly good discussion on yesterday’s daily threads – very much worth a re-read.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/14/dear-kmag-20200314-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-426747
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/14/dear-kmag-20200314-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-426761
Thanks for those links! Yes – it was all that good discussion that made me think we needed to have a thread and GET IT ALL DOWN. But that discussion is worth it, and includes MOAR!!!
Bringing this over . . .
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/14/dear-kmag-20200314-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-427168
Biowarfare is banned by treaty. Not that that matters to China, clearly.
Notably, it is of limited usefulness and effectiveness in conventional war. You have to have a vaccine and it has to be distributed widely to your own people. Even then effectiveness rates aren’t perfect and you can impair your own forces even if they have immunity.
In information/propaganda war, and hybrid warfare, the calculus changes dramatically.
China has been able to acquire/develop/purloin radically asymmetric capabilities in this regard – that asymmetry works to their advantage.
For chemical warfare treaties, they work because in the event of conflict, the enemy knows that we have FAR SUPERIOR capabilities (chemical + conventional) and that when pushed we will respond. It’s the chemical equivalent of nuclear MAD.
But for bio, this only works when one side values its own. China does not do so, so they are willing to push the MAD button knowing that they can calculate and supposedly absorb the losses. There is not an equivalent counter b/c the threat of a bio counterstrike is unthinkable and does not provide an advantage. The advantage in bio goes to the one that deploys first.
That leaves a counter which is using the military and civilian capabilities to manage and mitigate the threat. As we have seen, at this time NO COUNTRY is structured to counter a biowarfare campaign.
That is about to change.
Meanwhile, our capabilities and response are being measured on a massive scale, while enduring an information warfare campaign enabled in large part by massive corruption and bribery – political domain warfare also exercised in the economic domain, the economic sector of entertainment and media. Not the only economic sector targeted, but a critical sector that they needed outsized influence and control.
Entertainment, Transportation, Hospitality and Tourism industries also are key targets for hybrid warfare, because they affect the national morale on a large scale.
Our response thanks to Trump has been nothing less that MASSIVE and STELLAR.
It will HAVE to be better next time.
Media complains that they don’t have details about what our preparations are.
For an epidemic that makes sense.
For biowarfare information control is key for NATSEC.
Just maybe the reason for secrecy is that it isn’t what people think it is.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/14/dear-kmag-20200314-open-thread/comment-page-1/#comment-427225
I came over here to post this, b/c I forgot to say it in my prior post in my rush to get the CV Task Force on the TV.
This is WWIV.
Alison: I count the cold war as WWIII. It really was b/c if it had NOT been for “the bomb” we would have been in WWIII very soon. So the Ruskies had to pivot to a different type of warfare. That was FOUR and a HALF decades of Soviets developed AND DEPLOYING hybrid warfare.
We won the cold war but China was ramping up for WWIV. That’s where we are today.
AGAIN . . . for emphasis:
Our response thanks to Trump has been nothing less that MASSIVE and STELLAR.
It will HAVE to be better next time.
“Thank you very much. And we’ll be changing a lot of the rules, regulations for future, should this happen in the future, which we hope it never does. But it will, I guess — somewhere out there.”
ChiComs are saying that this WuFlu virus came from the US.
Even though we may find out that it was already making the rounds here last Fall…I don’t think it originated here.
It would’ve been too easy for the ChiComs to release it over here, before people became aware of it.
Then…they release it back home to provide cover for themselves.
China doesn’t get a pass!
No, they were doing the research. They came up with the bat soup story. They have all the paper trail.
Too late you fucking ChiNazis – this millstone is around YOUR NECKS.
Interesting to understand what China’s HIV-feature hybridization did to SARS.
Here is SARS:
https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/faq.html
One of the interesting aspects is that the contagiousness of SARS is END-LOADED – toward the second week of the infection – and there is contagion only while symptomatic.
COVID – the Chinese biowarfare hybrid – has the infectivity moved FORWARD, so that it is even contagious before symptoms appear.
Early to mid January, not completely sure on dates, I had some respiratory crud. Grandson was post flu so initially figured I had picked it up from him despite the vaccine. Felt pretty tired for several days, coughed A LOT, mostly at night, hardly any mucus, to the point that after a few days I had sore ribs. Low grade temp for about 12 hrs as it was starting. Didn’t really feel like the flu….the cough was the worst part….and I did not go in for treatment, managed symptoms until it cleared up in about a week. As a smoker I normally have a slight morning cough that clears up after a hot shower and some covfefe. I have noticed more frequent headaches since then….🤷
I remember teasing my daughter that I must have had the WooWooFlu as she was going to Nashville at the end of January and I told her, jokingly, to stay away from any Chinese people, so it was in the early stages of being recognized here.
Yup. Right time-frame. Right symptoms. I think you may be another case.
Wolfie, I am sure my daughter had it in December. We are In the PNW. She went to New York in the beginning of Dec. When she came home she got so, so sick. We had never seen anything like it. She is a ER RN at a trauma hospital and marathon runner. Never gets sick and you know how nurses are about germs. This knocked her flat, temp., headaches, dry cough she couldn’t breath to run etc.. She thinks thats what she had, It took quite a while to get over it, she is in her late thirties. We don’t think hubby or kids got it.(which I find interesting)
If she was an ER RN she would be very careful about infecting others and know how to do preventative. It is probably 2nd nature by now.
Yes, thats very true. She was off for a while too. Its just interesting because we wondered what she got and where. She’s very careful of germs with kiddos at home.
Thanks for that report!
Again – VERY remarkable – many people catch something new – MANY of them observe very carefully and strongly that it matches the description of – if not “the” coronavirus – then at least “a” coronavirus – and yet because of our social conditioning, we say nothing, or don’t talk back to the NARRATIVE that it has to be something else.
Yes, she just knew she was very sick. When the info on this came out, she knew thats what it was. Important takeaway, it was “caught” in New York in Dec, and she didn’t infect anyone else. Even if not hubby and kids or friends, I am in close contact and we are huggers and I am in the older demographic. I found that very interesting because it is different from what they r putting out there
Empty streets in Venice:
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1239060491240169472?s=20
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Empty streets in Spain:
https://twitter.com/V_4_Vendatta/status/1239077692219285509?s=20
WOW.
I suspect most of the “coronavirus victims” in China and Iran were people those governments wanted dead for one reason or another–political purge, organ harvesting, punishment for “whistleblowing,” etc. All those early stories about Chinese whistleblowers dying from “coronavirus”? Yeah, it probably wasn’t the WuFlu that did them in.
Oh, and this story about burial pits in Iran? The one that originated from CNN?
Folks, it’s CNN. I don’t know what’s going on in Iran, but I doubt it involves “coronavirus victims.” Heck, do we even know if they’re burying bodies and not evidence of their recently-destroyed nuclear program?
“The satellite images from March 1 and March 8, put out by Maxar Technologies, appear to show an increase in activity inside the Behesht-e Masoumeh cemetery in Qom. The images show what looks like two fresh trenches of graves on March 1, with more excavation after that.”
Oh, speaking of Maxar Technologies, look what I found on their Wikipedia page:
“DigitalGlobe and MDA Holdings Company merged to become Maxar Technologies on 5 October 2017.”
Do you recognize the date? You should. 10/5/2017 is the date the President had the infamous Calm Before the Storm dinner. Q appeared exactly 23 days later. What are the odds?
Well China certainly had the data points from which to base a round up via the social credit score. It would be interesting to see how many people with low scores still walk the earth.
I get the reasons for warfare – trade, economy, the election…I keep thinking about the census and how the census will be affected. This is all I have to add to the timing/was it on purpose brain storming
Several folks have called this WWIV, because of Cold War III and all that’s happened in the 75 year interval.
I think that is right. Every time I read it I see World War Eye Vee, as in doctors give an I.V. to sick patients.
my son called me at the beginning of February…his words: “I think I’m gonna die…”
he had the flu he thought–he’s never had the flu before. Breathing was his worse symptom…and total exhaustion. Me, being the suspicious person I am, asked if he thought it was WuFlu. (He makes all sorts of things, complicated, technical things) and some times he can only get parts from CHINA. I was concerned that it came to him in one of the containers.
He was home from work for several days…but he did go and seek medical help. They tested him for the flu–(by touching his brain via his nostrils he said). they gave him antibiotics and he went on his way.
he recovered well enuf to go hiking in Vermont on Valentine’s Day…
Thanks! Very interesting.
OK Y’ALL…
– There are many pathogens that cause Respiratory Infections (RI).
– The way the body reacts depends on the condition of the body, the immune system and organs, lifestyle, etc.
– There are several types of respiratory infections
– – – – upper respiratory involving sinuses, nasal membranes, throat
– – – – lower respiratory infection involving bronchial tubes and lungs
96-99% of the tests currently being conducted are showing a different pathogen than COVID-19 is causing the person’s respirator distress.
However, as Dr. Debra Birx emphasized, people with a RI are still just as contagious as those with positive COVID-19 disease – the same rules apply for avoiding spread of whatever pathogen is causing your RI – and protecting the vulnerable elderly.
The same rules apply for all viral and bacterial RI – Handwashing, staying home, avoiding spreading it to others, especially elders.
Most nursing homes limit visitors during flu season and if the pathogens floating around are sufficiently fierce that year, so do the hospitals.
SO FAR – GA and FL COVID-19 infections are localized around south FL and the Atlanta area. The next 2-3 weeks will show us how virulent it is and how much public health and voluntary personal interventions are working to reduce the spread.
FL – http://www.floridahealth.gov/diseases-and-conditions/COVID-19/index.html
FL MAP –
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GA state/county map and stats – https://dph.georgia.gov/georgia-department-public-health-covid-19-daily-status-report
I STILL personally do not think we are going to have nearly the degree of outbreak or nightmare scenarios in the US that China, Italy and other countries have had, with hospitals flooded with dying, and certainly not mass graves, high rises with welded exit doors, people drug out of homes and apartments to be warehoused to die in poorly equipped facilities – and – that is because Americans have guns and Constitutional liberty/freedom/rights in the US of A to protect us against that sort of Chinese/Russian/Communist/Bernie/AOC/Øbominable/Hillrotten crap but that’s just me.
We are Americans. We are just different and more free than the rest of the world. Even the UK limits free speech and right to assemble and end of life health care and care for very sick children. So far, the US does not.
Some Americans aren’t taking it seriously and don’t give a damn about other people, hence the street riots and violence in Dayton, OH when the university closed.
Then there’s this:
It was wise for PDJT to call on governors to put their National Guard on alert, because we do have uncaring, inhumane, greedy, lawless, self-gratifiying, feral people living amongst us in America.
Sorry about all the typos. Oh for a WP edit button.
Examples of media propaganda induced irrationality:
Aside from President Trump positive actions and leadership, best news I’ve read the past week or two.
– Gun and ammo sales rocketing.
That PDJT is considering Flynn full pardon is also great!
Bill Gates – The Coronavirus Conspiracy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIKOahBoPss
For what it’s worth……
Two days after leaving Naples FL (Feb 3) and returning to PA I developed what I thought was: a) a cold, b) the flu.
Lots of coughing, severe congestion, and plenty of mucus sidelined me for about 5 days.
I just isolated and rode it out.
As an aside another camper/kayaker showed up in Naples with a really bad cough; I mean severe.
But he was a smoker….so
He’s fine now. BTW, we both traveled by air…….different flights to and from.
Cold over Christmas, husband got over it quickly. Longer for me. Deep cough. Snot like nothing before, could not stop the snot.
One thing strange….. when husband lit a match to light the stove, the sulfur smell went into my lungs and it felt like my lungs were on fire. Never had that before. Sharp pain, had to sit down, nearly knocked me flat.
Same thing, cleaned out a shower with bleach and got a whiff. Aroma again hit me hard. Felt like my lungs were on fire. Had to open the whole house up. Could not be in the same room, not even the next room. Never experienced that before.
Yeah, smells. OMG. Just the rosemary-peppermint sea salt scrub in the shower was overwhelming.
Huh.
See my post below, if you dare. I had the “snot” too, but in ways I would never have believed prior to this thing.
Also, the smells thing you had is still with me. It is weird. I attributed it to my general sensitivity to smell, but this is extreme. I had to bolt out of the grocery line the other day, because of a man’s after-shave. I literally couldn’t breathe; I felt like I was going to suffocate on the spot.
If your lung tissue was already inflamed any chemical irritant in the air would feel like a hot poker.
I’ve now had two bouts of what seems to be flu this winter.
The first struck in December. It just seemed like a bad cold. Mom, my sister and I all had it. Mom is a former smoker (quit 50+ years ago), sis and I no. IIRC, there wasn’t much nasal congestion, but a nasty cough that would start up at 5 pm. Straight Jameson would stop it, but nothing else. I coughed straight into January, and was delighted in early February when the full voice was back. I mean, every time I tried to sing, I would cough.
This one…started with about 24 coughing up junk, and then the fever hit. 101 or so. Not much nasal congestion, but the cough produced junk. It was wet. The fever, for me, lasted about 80 hours. I woke up in a pool of sweat at 4 Monday morning. What sucks about this is the stomach involvement. YOu really have to stick to a light diet. I can now keep chicken down, and will try beef today, but hardly any food is tolerated. And it effects the taste buds, too.
As of yesterday, the dizziness is gone, and today I feel closer to normal, but that might be strictly having a decent night’s sleep as the Couch Commando is gone and the house is quiet.
So, I’m thinking this is not COVID-19 at all, but one of the heavier flu bugs that may have been hiding the true numbers.
I don’t know if either of my recent illnesses are Corona related, but the taste buds thing you mentioned reminded me. Early Feb we went out for a family birthday & I was sick the next day & for about a week. Don’t remember much of the detail of that illness.
2 weeks ago Sunday I attended church, something I rarely do, & the next day I was sick. It was mostly upper respiratory w/ major sinus pressure & some headaches. There was minimal coughing & coughing up gunk just in the mornings. I used OTC stuff to relieve symptoms for several days, off-brand Nyquil at night to sleep & cough/cold syrup in the day. Both helped w/ sinus issues. Plenty of fluids, homemade soups, lots of rest, & lots of Vitamin C. I think I had a low-grade fever a couple days but didn’t check my temp to confirm. There was very thick sinus congestion that made it hard to breath & hard to get it cleared. Sometimes it nearly blocked my windpipe, which was different & scary.
I’m mostly over it now but my taste buds are still impacted. Others have had some of the same homemade soup I’ve eaten & they say it’s seasoned fine but I just keep adding huge amounts of salt & it barely ever tastes “right”. Oh the early days of the second illness it was Very fatiguing. Sometimes it was too much effort to just sit up for a few hours to read the Q-Tree…so you know it was bad!
There are 5 people in our home & I’m the only one who got sick. We tried some in-home “social distancing” but we have a fairly small home & were all in the living room to watch stuff on TV at times. I’m mid 50’s, as is my husband, & we both have some underlying health issues. We have 3 20-somethings at home & one has major underlying health issues & compromised immunity due to anti-rejection drugs following a liver transplant. He & I were at U of M Hospital almost a week ago for a clinic visit (& my husband thinks we often get sick after being at the hospital) but both of us seem to be fine. We both used some of the on-site hand sanitizer at U of M & tried to avoid touching our faces, etc. while there. Neither of us wore a mask but we did keep decent “social distance” from others. No one we shared any rooms with was visibly sick. I shared a more detailed Michigan update on the most recent “reports from the home front” thread.
This is re-posting my prior Michigan report from here: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/05/20200305-coronavirus-ground-reports/comment-page-2/#comment-426576
Well here’s a report from Michigan.
My special needs son had a clinic visit at U of M Hospitals in Ann Arbor on Tuesday. For the most part things appeared, at least superficially, much as usual. We were asked about travel, contact w/ CV people, & general cold/flu symptoms upon sign in at the clinic. We had similar questions when later entering the Women’s & Children’s part of the hospital.
I made a point of checking out the free-standing stations that have auto-dispensed (touch free) foaming hand sanitizer, tissues, & masks. All stations I checked had the sanitizer, few had tissues, & none had masks. Later, upon closer inspection it was clear that the masks were removed deliberately as there was a written notice (that I didn’t read) but presumably directed people to security stations if they needed a mask. I believe they were limiting mask access to use them for people who were clearly sick, at risk (like my son in early months post-transplant), or potentially contagious. I informed a staff person about the nearby station missing tissues & masks (before I noticed the mask sign) & she immediately reported this to maintenance/housekeeping? Hours later there was still no replenishment of tissues…
There was a young man near the hospital entrance we used who was wearing a reflective vest. He appeared to be scanning people entering the facility, perhaps to head off cases that were clearly ill, but this is purely speculative on my part.
That evening we heard on the radio that MI had 2 CV cases in Metro Detroit, in 2 different counties.
The next day, I believe, the Governor announced what seemed to be overreacting directives including the temporary closing of some facilities, like colleges, for like a week I believe.
My Special Needs son also heard that MI Special Olympics was cancelling all activities, including State Games for Basketball. He also heard that a local special needs organization was cancelling future events (they usually host Wed pm gatherings & occasional weekend events). He & his worker were going to take his girlfriend to a local arcade tomorrow, but now her mother is concerned for CV issues so is keeping her daughter home instead.
The next day the sports events went into cancellation, so the March Madness games & a Detroit Pistons event a son was to attend are now gone.
Today, the Governor decided to declare a state of Emergency in MI (& I think said there were like 40 CV cases in MI but there was no clarification of this), & this was before the Trump presser. Schools are being closed, K-12, for a number of weeks & public universities for a few weeks too. Some type of online learning is to be taking place. My college daughter is on Spring Break & she’d heard that it was to be extended another week. She was to have a test in a class on Monday & classmates were alarmed to be on campus before they heard of the pending closing–not sure where the testing situation stands now. The Governor also declared that no gatherings of more than 250 were to be happening for a number of weeks. We heard on the radio that the Archdiocese of Detroit (I believe) was cancelling All Services for a number of weeks.
We heard from a family member who is visiting Dallas. He & a friend asked a stranger to take their photo, which happened just fine. Afterwards, while thanking him they shook his hand & suddenly everyone realized they weren’t supposed to shake hands so were laughing about the extreme recommendations. Apparently they were also joking about runs on stores & lack of TP there in Dallas.
My married son stopped by this evening to say that his company is suspending deliveries (I believe). He used to cover a local route where they replenished stock in a number of companies a couple times a week, this is a Bearing Supply type of business. He also said that they are limiting staff time at work & that he is having to work at home on Fridays for a while (I didn’t know that working from home was even possible for his job).
His wife is looking for a new job & recently had an interview. They are of the opinion that no one will be hiring as long as the CV “crisis” is happening. Although we all expressed doubt as to whether or not the CV situation was completely legitimate or possibly politically motivated to try to tank the economy to disrupt Trump’s re-election bid, he was convinced that the “panic” on many people’s parts was real & being fueled by seeing major events cancelled. Several local concerts & stage productions were announced to have been cancelled on the radio this evening…Interesting times we live in…
NEW 3-16-20
Sat. a son returned from a missions trip to Guatemala. He was part of a team that mostly consisted of college students from Detroit, WSU & a school in Ohio, OSU?. They heard while away that their campuses were both cancelling classes & holding classes online. The Ohio students were told that they would have to vacate the campus & move back home, not so for the Detroit students. Also as they were leaving Guatemala they learned that Sat. was the last day that flights out were going to be allowed. It sounded like Guatemala was locking their country down including not letting people leave. I think there may have been 2 corona virus cases there…
Sun. our Dallas traveler returned. One activity he attended in Texas involved going to the gun range. He noted that most of the shooters there were using some type of AR rifles. His return flight, Delta, was seemingly pretty empty. About a half hour before boarding there were only like a half dozen people waiting for that plane. There were some people wearing masks he noted.
Other relatives attend a large church, 4-6 thousand & their services were going to be televised from an empty church with just platform ministry people present. My husband is quite active in music ministry at his church & they are not having services until next month some time. They may seat about 600 people & usually have 2 services.
My daughter, whose college classes are to be online now, heard from a classmate who said that President Trump was planning to “quarantine the United States” for 2 weeks starting in about 2 days. This info alleged came from a “Senator Hunter” who’d met w/ Trump recently & was advising everyone to stock up on necessities & plan to be housebound for 2 weeks–I’m hoping to find some confirmation of this “rumor” here at the Q-Tree later. I believe this info was going around Facebook…
Son made a Wal-Mart run for a couple things. They were out of the lower-priced dog food he usually gets so he got a bit pricier large bag of Purina. A lady in that aisle was complaining that there was “no” dog food & “no peanut butter” so what was she gonna do. 2 of my kids said there seemed to be heavier than usual shopping but they didn’t notice things being out of hand. One bought produce & one got a loaf of bread. They didn’t see empty shelves but didn’t check the paper &/or cleaning aisles either.
Anybody else feel that this was part of China’s deception tactics ?
The date on this so-called breaking news story is January 24, 2020 (this video went viral).
(I don’t know how to find more information; i.e. the date the original video)
Most of what comes out of China is FAKE AND STAGED.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQxK0PWZsP0
I agree! Early on the videos seemed so fake. I commented on Twitter and people were saying they had access to sat phones!!!
I have not had any signs of illness, but my boss became very ill the week before Christmas. I have never seen anyone become so sick so fast. Violent coughing, fever, trouble breathing. I’m not sure if he saw a doctor, but he was ill for about 2 weeks. He is about 65 years old, but very active and in very good health.
I’m in Ohio and yesterday several people were posting stories on a local Facebook page citing their belief that the virus has been in our area since last November/December. Many said they had symptoms matching Corona Virus late last year and said they were sick for about 2 weeks. Also, they were arguing about whether people should keep their kids at home since the schools have closed for 3 weeks. I was a bit surprised that most people felt it would be fine for kids to be out and about at movie theaters, malls, etc. during this time and didn’t want to hear that perhaps their kids could be carriers and infect others. It was a pretty heated discussion. Meanwhile, our grocery stores are almost empty of meat, frozen foods and paper products. Restaurants are all advertising free delivery service & carry out. Road traffic seems lighter than normal. Very strange times we live in.
Wife and I had what seemed to be some sort of stomach bug around the same time. We had a pot luck at Church and many people were sick afterwards. It was just about a week before we went on our ski trip to CO. Had to make many quick runs to the bathroom, but not sick as in vomiting. Was very weak a couple of days and had the cough thing as well. Luckily we were already on our Christmas break from work. Ate lots of berries for a couple days before graduating to chicken noodle and stars soup. We are now getting over an upper respiratory thing that we have had for a week and a half.
PubMed: “Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22423139. I listened to Del Bigtree on the Highwire yesterday talking about this vulnerability for people who take the flu shots and COVID 19.
Okay, fair warning, TOO MUCH INFORMATION incoming. Read at your own risk.
I am posting my experience in January, complete with some really WEIRD symptoms, because even if another female had one of them, I doubt she would tell you.
My first symptoms were a fever for about half a day, and feeling “tired.” Note that I am really healthy, with a strong immune system. I don’t get sick often, and am high-energy. At age 55, I routinely work my 24-year-old son into the ground.
After the fever day, I was REALLY tired. I spent two days IN BED, which I can tell you never happens to me. Over those two days, the cough started. It was an up-high, dry, unproductive cough. I felt light-headed and woozy. The morning of the third day, I started to cough and couldn’t stop. I almost passed out, and I was home alone. It freaked me out enough that I went to the clinic, and asked for codeine cough syrup. I hate doctors and don’t go often. The cough is scary, and the breathlessness and sensation of being about the faint is scarier.
Then the weird (and gross) started. The next day, I had so much fluid discharge from the “lady parts” I thought I might have some kind of cancer or something. I was terrified. I waited two days to think about what to do. Suddenly, that symptom abated, like nothing had happened. I researched a bit, and discovered that this actually CAN be a symptom of virus in the body. Your system is trying every outlet possible to expel the invader.
The codeine was working (mostly) on the cough at this point, although I still had coughing “fits” where it came and went.
As an aside to this next bit, I have to tell you that I have permanently implanted tubes in both ear drums. I have had ear infections my whole life, so they were put in to prevent them, which generally, they do.
But suddenly, I felt my right ear “close.” Like when you fly and it needs to pop. It felt terrible. I did all the things I know to do to open it. Well, about three hours later, it did. Fluid ran from that ear for 12 hours! It was incredibly bizarre. I have never had anything remotely like that happen, ever.
For most of the duration of this illness, my lungs felt tight, and I was breathless a lot. I have NEVER in my life had a chest cold, they always settle in my sinuses/ears. And I was completely exhausted. This went on for about three weeks. Gradually I got better. I DON’T HAVE lingering lung issues.
NOW, for my theory about the WEIRD symptoms. As I stated, I’ve never had a chest cold. I’ve never smoked, I practice yoga, deep breathing, etc., and have really healthy lungs. I think this thing had a hard time settling in there. I’ve read that the pneumonia is what’s killing people with coronavirus. All that over-production of fluid in me went elsewhere in the body, instead of the lungs, at least initially, and may be why I have recovered completely.
I also immediately began taking several things when my illness occurred. Elderberry syrup, echinacea tea, extra vitamin C (food-based), and holy basil tea. All of these are immune-supporting.
I am now convinced that we have seen MANY cases of coronavirus since December, even just among our community here on the Q-tree. I personally know of at least ten here in my community, people who are close to me. Was I ground zero here? I don’t know.
Now that you mention it…fluid from the lady parts I attributed to a cycle peak, but it was weird. And the nasal congestion…just the left ear seemed to be really bad. I mean, the pressure in certain positions lying down had me wondering if I should go for anti-biotics. Except, if I moved, the pressure abated.
This is weird $#!+. I mean, I had swine flu, colds of all sorts, bugs my nephews brought home…none of them were this whacked.
Good to know I was not the only one. And I can’t attribute it to cycles, because I don’t have cycles (or a uterus) anymore. It was WEIRD.
My recent illness, that’s mostly over now, also involved major ear pressure issues. I kept “clearing” my ears like I learned for Scuba, & often the air I’d force into my sinuses would stay for a number of seconds before squeaking it’s way out. People (& the dog) across the room could hear this squeaking even over the volume of the TV or radio–yikes. Sometimes the pressure changes in the ear would come on suddenly & uncomfortably, very weird.
I’m also having some strange “lady part” issues, involving burning pain…something I’ve never encountered in my life…This has overlapped the time frame of my 2 recent illnesses (described above)…
Just woke, has to go do chores. Not sure if this has been mentioned. Purpose behind canceling all sport venues also lends it self for full on press of the press. They are poisoning the masses at rates above and beyond normal with fake news and mass hysteria.
Late here, but our situation:
Late December, both husband and myself came down with fever, headachy, and then a dry, hacking cough. Any drainage went straight to the lungs and sat there, but no runny noses or anything like that. Had shortness of breath at night when laying down.
Went on for about four weeks. Son-in-law had the same thing, but he hacked for months and sometimes had to sit up at night so he could breathe.
Son in another state had same symptoms around the same time. He commented that it was the strangest symptoms he’d ever had.
Our nurse friend said that they have been very busy at the clinic with same symptoms, but she says it’s just a bad flu, and the flu vaccine missed this year. She said they missed putting the Influenza B in the vaccine, which I think is the respiratory one.
I found that very interesting…
“flu vaccine missed this year”?
Seems to me that “They”…… “MISS” the Vaccine EVERY Year.
I would never take the flu vaccine. My mom swore by it, and yet got the flu every year. She said it was less severe, but she had respiratory issues, and even had walking pneumonia once that came within hours of killing her.
The only time I have ever had the flu shot was when my Dad was going through chemo/radiation for his cancer. Otherwise I never had one before or since because they tend to make everyone actually get sick.
We got into an argument in the choir loft about this. On person who watches way too much MSM claims that what goes into the shot is determined by what Australia had the season before. That was the first I had heard of it.
People in the medical community in this state have to have the shot or they lose their licenses, I found out.
I do think Influenza B was left out though, basically because I know the couch commando has flu B in 2018, and when he came down with what my sister and I had, it lasted 24 hours. I’m guessing he has natural immunity. Now, with all luck, so do we.
My brother HAD influenza B in 2018. The whole house in Florida was tested before he came home sick as a dog.
Yeah, even the flu, I get to sleep sitting up.
The CDC does not agree with that nurse at all.
I don’t trust any of these orgs, though. The wildly differing stats on Wuflu alone have disabused me of confidence in ANY of these official orgs.
This is a comment to an article on the panic. Made me snort out loud.
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Instead of paying scalper’s prices for toilet paper, go to Home Depot and get yourself a bidet toilet seat. About $250. Not only is the seat heated, but it got an adjustable hydro-flosser for your butt. Makes mine so clean you could eat off it! Not an invitation.