20200326: CoronaCRISIS/China Crisis Daily Thread + Dear Congress, Please Get Your Act Together

For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.

We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.

For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.

Primary Update Links:

In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:

  • Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
  • Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
  • Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates 
  • Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
  • China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
  • An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
  • Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
  • Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
  • Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.  
  • Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
  • Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
  • Other news items

Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:

Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.

Love to all!

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Sadie Slays

Once again, the politicians get to live by a different set of rules while the rest of us are asked to give up more and more of our daily lives. Right now in my area, it is illegal for me to do what exactly they’re doing in this picture. I’m not even allowed spend time outside with my own family in the local taxpayer-funded park without getting a citation from law enforcement, but the Senate is free to carry on like normal. Screw this psy-op (because if these Senators were under any -real- threat, then they wouldn’t be buddy-buddy like this).

michaelh

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Sadie Slays

And I’m not counting Rand Paul because he’s been targeted by cabal since at least 2017. He’s a special case.

pgroup

Actually, it is not illegal. The “order” to stay in your homes is unconstitutional. You can choose to obey it if you want.

Sadie Slays

I’m not obeying it. I’m continuing to live my daily life as normal as possible despite the shutdowns. Fuck the Democrats here for telling me I can’t go outside while my own Senators don’t even believe the fear porn the media is selling. I refuse to live in fear or by their double standards.

Sadie Slays

Bonus: The abortion clinics here are still open despite dental and eye clinics being forced to shut down by the state. Fuck you if you have a vision or dental emergency, but you’re free to kill your baby at any time! And people even here still naively believe this is all about saving lives. Even the Senators don’t believe that.

piper567

Sadie, I imagine this closure of clinics is regional or…
some of the medical/dental services locally remain open only for emergencies, or by appt….dental/chiro/PCPs and so forth.
maybe parallel to ” elective” restrictions?
on another topic:
I found this ink on thedonald.win. This is an MD in NY Big Hospital given over to virus, and he has some practical facts ab transmission. The first several minutes are kinds rough, this is not his bailiwick, but within 15 minutes he clarifies some thinking behind what we hear.
https://vimeo.com/399733860?ref=em-share

Sadie Slays

Long story short, the Governor is holding non-abortion medical clinics to impossible standards. It’s been in the local media for days, doctors are complaining in the media, and I’ve talked to my government representatives about the situation. I’d link to more but that would giving up more personal info than I’d care to share.

Harry Lime

In tandem to this post…I would love to see a list of all the celebrities, athletes, and world leaders and politicians who have now tested positive for the China Virus. It seems like there are several more every few hours. I don’t want to flaunt my tin foil hat…but, how are all of these people being tested so quickly…and what are they being treated with? How on earth did so many high profile people get infected? Something about all of this is rotten to the core.

Harry Lime

Kathy Griffin blames President Trump and VP Pence for her unbearable pain…comment image

kalbokalbs

Pleased the bitch is in pain. Hope it is excruciating. Something just short of passing out. Sorry. Not, sorry.

Sadie Slays

I’m not the least bit convinced that any of the famous people claiming to have the WuFlu are actually sick. Among the theories I’ve heard why as to some would falsely claim to be sick:
– Sliding the newscycle
– Intentionally spreading panic / selling the narrative
– Warning others in the cabal that they’re under arrest or surveillance
– General whoring for media attention
– Using “quarantine” as an excuse to evade Deep State threats (at least in the case of Republicans and Trump supporters)
– Poisoned batch of drugs (cocaine or adrenochrome)
Personally, I believe it’s all of the above depending on who is feigning sickness.

Harry Lime

Yup…I just watched a very long video regarding the last on that list (poisoned…)
My oh my…we live in interesting times…

churchmouse

‘How on earth did so many high profile people get infected?’ Because they come in contact with so many more people than many of us do on an average day. The people they come in contact with have also been in contact with many more than we would on any given day.
I don’t know if it was someone on here or on a British political site I read, but someone said that coronavirus ‘is a rich man’s disease’. And they are the ones who get the tests. Top dog, top priority.

Sadie Slays

Is that woman in the green shirt at the table 86 year-old ChiFi?

Sadie Slays

Yup, that’s definitely ChiFi in the green. 11:13 in the C-SPAN video linked below. That 86 year-old woman doesn’t seem particularly concerned about catching the WuFlu and neither does anyone else in the room. Meanwhile, I can’t even go to the supermarket without reminders about “social distancing.” What a joke.comment image
https://www.c-span.org/video/?470652-1/senate-passes-2-trillion-economic-stimulus-bill-96-0&start=40626

Sadie Slays

78 year-old Bernie “I had a heart attack months ago” Sanders at the table with 86 year-old ChiFi and some staffer. They’re taking this “pandemic” real seriously!comment image

Sadie Slays

No, Dianne! You’re not allowed to pat anyone on the back anymore!
Oh wait, rules don’t apply to Senators.
11:12:53 in the video if anyone cares to verify.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?470652-1/senate-passes-2-trillion-economic-stimulus-bill-96-0&start=40626comment image

Sadie Slays

ChiFi literally pushing Murkowski (man, what does she have on that woman?). Bare hands! No gloves! 86 year-old ChiFi isn’t going to let a pandemic stop her from touching half the Senate!comment image

Sadie Slays

72 year-old Mazie Hirono touching these dirty public desks with her bare hands. These 70+ year-old Senators don’t care about strict cleanliness standards, so why should I?comment image

GA/FL

Likely – they are all on Hydroxychloroquine and have been for some time. The ones with symptoms get the Zithromax too.

Sadie Slays

That’s the optimistic take on the situation.

kalbokalbs

Oh, I would bet many of these crooks are on preventive meds as GA/FL posted above.

GA/FL

THEY are all on Hydroxychloroquine and Zithromax!

Sadie Slays

Assuming this is true, why does the Senate get to live by a different set of standards? Why are Americans asked to uproot centuries of social custom while the Senators continue to live normally?

GA/FL

Because we do not have our doses of HCQ and Zithromax.
The powers that be want a vaccine or antivirals with patents to make BIG $$$

Sadie Slays

And if they’re all allegedly on Chloroquine, then what happened to Rand Paul?

GA/FL

HCQ – hydroxychloroquine is not 100% effective against malaria and must be taken with care. My sister was a nurse missionary and for some reason, despite chloroquine, she got both malaria and dengue fever and was very ill. Either she got careless or she got invaded by resistant bug/s.

grandmaintexas

Warfare happened to him.
We are at war.

piper567

Tradition.
just more of the same.

grandmaintexas

We need mass noncompliance at this point.

kalbokalbs

Have no intention of obeying a “stay home” order. Nor much of anything else potahtoh head Socialist guv may “order” here in NV.
Everything I am doing, is because I believe it is wise to do so. Social distancing, washing hands, moar cleaning…
I question the legality of these orders. AND, even IF they are legal, are they really going to start berating citizens, fining citizens, incarcerating citizens? Citizens won’t tolerate this shit. Even Dumrats won’t tolerate it.
While big cities may tolerate this crap, fly over country will tell them to go F themselves.

michaelh

https://www.weneedmasks.org/comment image

FABRIC MASKS OFFER THREADS OF HOPE
Connecting the needs of the healthcare community with the talents of those who sew.
With the shortage of protective masks facing the entire world, fabric masks are a CDC crisis response option. This website connects healthcare organizations who need fabric masks with sewists who are willing to sew masks. The goal is to provide a resource to the medical community without adding to their burden, as well as answer the desire from sewists willing to use their skills. In a time of fear and uncertainty, the desire to help is the thread of hope that holds us together.
Fabric masks are not considered PPE and their capability to protect against COVID-19 is unknown. These masks are intended for healthcare professionals who are versed in their potential use for their needs.

Anonymoushorse

Sewing masks with no gloves on? Pre-infected?

Gail Combs

All it takes is irradiation with a EUV lamp or pop them in a washing machine or autoclave…
Plenty of ways of sanitizing the cloth masks. (That makes them re-usable BTW)

MAGA Mom

Gail – looking for your info on baking soda as applied to this virus. I know I read it but can’t find it in my notes. link or repost or tell me where to find it? many thanks

churchmouse

Sorry, MAGA Mom — with apologies to Gail — but here are two articles about baking soda for flu/coronavirus.
Take them for what they are worth. I am not a doctor.
1/ Dr Mercola — see points 1 through 3 below:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/08/27/baking-soda-natural-remedy.aspx
‘Recommended dosages from the Arm & Hammer Company for colds and influenza back in 1925 were:
Day 1 — Take six doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water, at about two-hour intervals
Day 2 — Take four doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water, at the same intervals
Day 3 — Take two doses of ½ teaspoon of baking soda in glass of cool water morning and evening, and thereafter ½ teaspoon in glass of cool water each morning until cold symptoms are gone.’
2/ Dr Sircus (I have not heard of him before):
https://drsircus.com/general/dosages-and-treatments-for-coronavirus-infections/
‘The dosage varies with one’s pH readings of both urine and saliva and the condition being treated. Maximum dosage is right on the Arm & Hammer box, which is seven half-teaspoons a day for a full grown adult under age 60 and three half-teaspoons for people over age 60. One has to check their pH daily in the morning and after a bicarbonate bath, which can be made quite strong.’
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Personally, I will stick with washing my hands often and limiting my physical proximity to people outside the house.

michaelh

WOW. Such prolific posting!
How in the world does Daughn do it???comment image

pgroup

Did it leave a mark?

kalbokalbs

^^^ That’s funny 😉

Gail Combs

I thought I would lay out the circumstantial evidence that China is using the Wuhan Virus as a biological weapon.
We will start with Amazing Poly who explains 4th generation Warfare:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJINaINVhjA

michaelh

Thanks Gail.
I don’t think we’re going to have anything more solid than circumstantial evidence. It’s hard to have a smoking gun on this stuff.
I mean, unless of course we knew someone who really had all the INTELLIGENCE . . .

coosmama

One or two videos before this, Polly gets into Event 201 and the market for a vaccine with Bill Gates. And it seems like securing grants for neverending vaccine trials has been a specialty of Dr. Brix. Polly is all over this aspect, too. Put those vids with Gail’s notes, but pour a smooth one to sip on, first. And slippers, you’ll need comfy.

Gail Combs

Polly is a great researcher.
We may never have HARD PROOF, however the situation STINKS of COMMIE MANIPULATION.
It is just TOO coordinated.
TOO MANY COINCIDENCES!
Do you believe in coincidences?
WHY did Piglosi have to go home to California to get that 1400+ page monstrosity?

3634
Democrats Have Been Deliberately Selling Out Our Country to Foreign Entities
Q
!!mG7VJxZNCI
25 Nov 2019 – 4:30:45 PM
[D]’s (internal) infiltration issue(s) w/ protecting NAT SEC?
Deliberate?
Do you believe in coincidences?
>DF Chinese spy_insert 20+ years

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/08/04/trump-russia-investigation-dianne-feinstein-chinese-spy/908865002/📁
>Awan IT scandal
https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democrats-it-scandal-set-to-explode-with-possible-plea-deal📁
>Omar paid [F] agent
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/ilhan-omar-accused-of-being-a-paid-agent-of-qatar-and-accessing-sensitive-info-for-iran-court-testimony/📁
>Clinton server > China relay
https://gohmert.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398652📁
>[VJ] direct relay > Iran pre/post Iran deal [future marker]
>[Kerry] direct relay > Iran pre/post Iran deal [future marker]
IF KNOWN – WHY IS IT ALLOWED TO HAPPEN?
IF KNOWN – WILL THERE BE JUSTICE?
It’s only a matter of time.

Q

Gail Combs

Is the Wuhan virus BIOWARFARE?
COMMUNIST HYBRID WARFARE
Or how to win against a superior force by using your bag of dirty tricks .
From Michaelh:
Russian hybrid warfare: what are effects-based network operations and how to counteract them
by: Vitalii Usenko and Dmytro Usenko

The strategy of a hybrid or irregular war followed by real war was developed in the USSR. The same scenario was used by USSR during the ‘liberation’ of Poland, Bessarabia, Bukovyna, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, and the attempt to ‘liberate’ Finland in 1939-1940. This liberation is now being justified as a Soviet attempt to secure its borders against Hitler, which is the same justification Russia uses now, 75 years later: “to secure its borders against NATO”. Not only USSR experience was essential in development of new Russian hybrid warfare concept. Russia in developing its hybrid warfare strategy used scientific developments of US think tanks and lessons learned by US Army and Nato. This review tries to cover possible origins of Russian hybrid warfare strategy for better understanding and forecasting possible Russian moves.
Since its formation in 1922 following communist doctrine the USSR has made accusations against every country in the world with the deliberate intention of concealing its own role as the instigator…
*http://euromaidanpress.com/2015/01/17/russian-hybrid-warfare-what-are-effect-based-network-operations-and-how-to-counteract-them/

Here’s the key ideas I’m looking for onHybridorIrregular warfare:

Russian extremist theories of world dominance see the warfare from a perspective which could be unusual for Western audiences. Russians have a far broader conception of warfare than you might expect…

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michaelh

Thanks Gail!
I should’ve just waited . . . you’re doing all the hard work for me! 🤣

Is the Wuhan virus BIOWARFARE?

OH HELL YES.
Why else would the China-owned U.N. and WHO be out in front denying the obvious, that it came from China?
Why else would China be actively destroying all evidence?
Why else would China be evicting all foreign journalists?
Why else would China be eliminating their own people – NOT COVERED IN MEDIA – and cremating them?
Why else would China be turning down foreign medical assistance, aid, and even WHO personnel from ground zero?
Really, though, the Wuhan virus is Hybrid Warfare in concert with Fourth Generation Warfare in the domain of BIOWARFARE.
Biowarfare is a first strike weapon. The advantage goes to the adversary who uses it first. There is no counter.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Asking “Why would China be doing X” isn’t evidence.

michaelh

Yeah, well they are rhetorical questions 😉
But Gail brings the sauce!

Gail Combs

Michael, Steve,
Unless there were spies on the ground who got away OR someone in the know here in the USA talks, we will NEVER KNOW for sure.
One of the things I read/heard was the Chinese leaders are well aware of leaks and only use face to face in bug swept rooms or trusted couriers. We also know that the Treasonous WITCH Clinton, GAVE China the list of CIA assets in China and they were murdered.
HOWEVER it is thought the lower level managers in Wuhan got sloppy and the USA may have gotten info. That is why they were replaced by powerful CCP members.
I think that was all in a recent tweeter thread posted in the last day or two. The flood of info has turned into a tsunami!
…..
IF President Trump actually HAS solid evidence then what Q has said will certainly become true.
3815
…What happens when people learn the TRUTH?
What happens when people WAKE UP?
They will not be able to walk down the street…

Q

singingsoul1

I think POTUS knows exactly if the virus was created in a lab for war purposes or not. He cannot let anyone know what he knows because then whoever is in China transmitting truths a spy or whatever the Chines will know where it came from and maybe who is spying for the US.
This is just my assumption.

Gail Combs

IS WUHAN CORONA VIRUS AS WEAPON?
hiding the evidence

WHAT IS INTERESTING is the lengths ‘they’ are going to keep the public from knowing about Professor Zhengli Shi of the Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China.
Now the Chinese (and our media) are even trying to say the USA military planted the virus in Wuhan. This is typical projection that we see the Communists.socialists/Democrats do all the time. BLAME THE OTHER GUY for what you have done or are doing.
Leave it to James Delingpole to get to the MEAT. It leaves no doubt that the CDC has been actively working against President Trump and the American people.
So tell me again why all those people had to suffer in hospital and quarantine and why those people in nursing homes WERE ALLOWED TO DIE???
Delingpole: Chloroquine Known as Effective Against Coronavirus Since 2005

…Yesterday, I reported the existence of three studies, all claiming that chloroquine phosphate had proved effective in treating the COVID-19.
This has since been confirmed by a more recent open-label non-randomised clinical trial in France by Didier Raoult​ M.D/Ph.D et al, completed just days ago. The sample was small but the results were convincing…
*https://www.covidtrial.io/
But the story gets more extraordinary still. It turns out that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has known since at least 2005 that chloroquine is effective against coronaviruses.
In 2005, Martin J Vincent et al published a study in Virology Journal titled ‘Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread.’…
As at least one person has noticed, the implications of this are enormous. If the medical establishment – including CDC – has been aware of the efficacy of chloroquine in treating coronavirus for at least 14 years, why has it not been mass produced and made available sooner?….
*https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/19/chloroquine-known-as-effective-against-coronavirus-since-2005/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think that the DNC is in on this, and I think Sisolak is not stopping prescription of the antimalarials to DENY them as much as to KEEP THEM. He’s HOARDING them because he knows what’s coming.
I think these damn Dems KNEW about the cure and HID IT. And they STAYED IN “HIDE MODE”. To hide it, they had to pretend not to know about the drug, and they could not stockpile it, or it would be obvious and show up on DHS radar. So they waited, but when Trump started talking it up, the DNC and the DNC FAKE NEWS got nervous as hell that Trump was going to mess up their good thing.
This explains the THEFTS of antimalarials by that Polly noted. They got the US taxpayers to pay for them and then RIPPED OFF their own antimalarials. But it’s not enough. Not enough for the SCAM.
I think this is going to blow up BIG TIME.

piper567

these are interesting, one related to the Delingpole comment Gail mentions above.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed32104915
https://www.ncbi.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1232869

cthulhu

Karl has an amusing hypothesis —
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=238638
Make sure to down to attenuated viruses…..

michaelh

Now the Oxford study is validating what we first learned with Diamond Princess — that this virus has a very high “silent attack” rate.
ALL of the lockdowns of economies are stupid if that is the case because by the time you detect a public health problem a huge percentage of the population already has the virus, this continues as you start getting worried and by the time you lock down a huge percentage of the population is already immune.
ALL you get out of those policies if that’s the case is economic damage. You get exactly nothing in terms of actual benefit.
NOTHING.

. . .

Am I right?
Maybe, maybe not.
But if so then every bit of these lockdowns are not only stupid Chairman Xi is laughing his ass off because he knows that if we didn’t do it by the time we detected the problem a huge percentage of our population was already immune and the only correct course of action was to let it go.
. . . All we’re left with at that point is whether China concealed this from the world on purpose and, if so, what we intend to do about it.

My view is that Trump knows the FAKE NEWS STORM was coming and that dramatic, decisive action was necessary.
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/01/trump-they-wanna-kill-our-cows-that-means-youre-next/
*https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wtf-gates-foundation-sponsored-training-for-fictional-coronavirus-outbreak-that-caused-65-million-deaths-last-year/

Billionaire oligarch Bill Gates has warned – or perhaps threatened – that a pandemic is coming that could kill millions, and a globalist response would be necessary in response to it.
“In the case of biological threats, that sense of urgency is lacking,” he said. “The world needs to prepare for pandemics in the same serious way it prepares for war.
Perhaps Gates just showed incredible foresight in choosing the coronavirus mass death simulation just months before the real thing would show itself, or maybe this is just another case of predictive programming from a globalist cabal capable of unfathomable evil.

To get IN FRONT of the FAKE NEWS STORM (China infested MCM) Trump had to declare WAR on the INVISIBLE ENEMY.
Shutting down the economy is in part necessary to slow the spread (I believe the U.S. being much larger represents a massive OPEN system) . . . but only until ENVIRONMENTAL and OTHER factors work to mitigate.
If hadn’t shut down, the FAKE NEWS STORM would be winning.
To me, the enemy isn’t the virus, it’s the FAKE NEWS.
In terms of 4GW and Hybrid Warfare, the enemy is PROPAGANDA.

Gail Combs

Also President Trump LOOKS Presidential and caring of the American People. The DemonRats, esp Piglosi look like selfish witches.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

It’s JIU-JITSU. Trump knew what was coming and FLIPPED THE DEMS AND DEMOCRAT FAKE NEWS.

prognosticatasaurusrex

This is my take, from a few days ago. You tell me, was I right?
http://politicalprognosticator.politics.blog/2020/03/22/they-want-their-weapon

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. 4GW. The CHICOM-TRAINED PRESS is the SILENT ENEMY – the ENEMY HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Read his tweet thinking “He’s not stupid – he’s EVIL”. And he knows the PRESS works for the SAME MASTERS.comment image

prognosticatasaurusrex

AGREED!. But now Wolf, you, I , and MANY others, sometimes thanks to us and others like us, are beginning to SEE. Once they learn how, as we did, things cannot be UNSEEN.
The GREAT AWAKENING. It IS upon us…I can feel it. The STORM is here, we are ready, it IS TIME to have Toto pull that curtain back, revealing the wizard, in all his nakedness!
It will NOT be pretty for them, when we the people become aware of what they have done, THEY will not be able to walk down the street.
I believe THIS is the storm Q was warning us about for the last 3 years,

michaelh

If you want to STEAL my comments on the economic warfare aspects and expand on them, please be my guest . . . any help to develop and game out the scenarios in advance will be appreciated

prognosticatasaurusrex

Likewise I am sure, feel free!

michaelh

Better yet, make them WANT to GIVE it to us! 😉

cthulhu

Really, read down to attenuated viruses…..
I don’t want to put words in his mouth, but steal a deadly coronavirus from Canada, attempt to produce a weakened-virus vaccine (so that the original could be used as a war virus) and lose control of the attenuated virus before it was attenuated enough to be a vaccine…..

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Another possible explanation, although I still think it’s intentional.

michaelh

The best smoking gun we have right now is China’s delayed and inept response, which shows an unacceptably typical lack of urgency while blame-shifting that we have all come to expect from communist nations.

Gail Combs

The TIMING says it is intentional.
The Scientific papers say it is intentional.
The viruses stolen from Labs in the USA and Canada say it is intentional.
AND THE FRAUD of CHINA’s Economy that is about to be exposed, says it is intentional.
Exposure of that MASSIVE, MASSIVE FRAUD and the millions and billions and even trillions of dollars that were stolen by the Chinese Communist Party with the aid of the DemonRats is what is REALLY PUTTING THE FEAR in the Elite.
How many 401Ks, Mutual Funds, Pension Funds… all over the world have money ‘invested’ in bogus Chinese companies??? How much money was STOLEN from the ‘little guy’ and given to the Chinese Communist Party?
♦️ Money that the Chinese then used to BUY US treasuries.
♦️ Money the Chinese used to BUY politicians.
♦️ Money (and US technology) the Chinese used to build their armed forces.
♦️ Money the Chinese loaned to 3rd world countries in order to grab their raw material wealth.
SEE my comment below:
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/26/20200326-coronacrisis-china-crisis-daily-thread-dear-congress-please-get-your-act-together/comment-page-1/#comment-441897

michaelh

I posted this on the thread yesterday . . . sadly I have NOT had the time or energy to organize my thoughts on this.
CEOs and stock holders are gaming the system and profiting off the stock market tanking. No way they’ll get away with this (these people are STUPID)
Just to help connect the dots, the highly-connected state governors were targeted for the plot, it should be logical considering the number of idiot SJW companies that the CEOs of businesses were likewise widely targeted and often in the exact same meetings that Mike Pompeo warned about.
Why Did Hundreds Of CEOs Resign Just Before The World Started Going Absolutely Crazy?
by Tyler Durden
Wed, 03/25/2020 – 11:00
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/why-did-hundreds-ceos-resign-just-world-started-going-absolutely-crazycomment image

In the months prior to the most ferocious stock market crash in history and the eruption of the biggest public health crisis of our generation, we witnessed the biggest exodus of corporate CEOs that we have ever seen. And as you will see below, corporate insiders also sold off billions of dollars worth of shares in their own companies just before the stock market imploded. In life, timing can be everything, and sometimes people simply get lucky. But it does seem odd that so many among the corporate elite would be so exceedingly “lucky” all at the same time. In this article I am not claiming to know the motivations of any of these individuals, but I am pointing out certain patterns that I believe are worth investigating.

michaelh

[PLACEHOLDER]

michaelh

Keep in mind the SBC canceled their annual meeting in June, allegedly over COVID-19 concerns . . . yeah smells like BS to me too . . .
There is much more to explore in the realm of hybrid warfare and the current regime of 4GW we are experiencing. This is a continuation of the discussion from here:
ChiCom-19 as a 4GW Tsunami
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/19/chicom-19-as-a-4gw-tsunami/comment image
And here:
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/15/deconstructing-chinazi-iranian-fake-news-false-narratives-about-coronavirus-and-reconstructing-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-427848
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/15/deconstructing-chinazi-iranian-fake-news-false-narratives-about-coronavirus-and-reconstructing-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-427882
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/15/deconstructing-chinazi-iranian-fake-news-false-narratives-about-coronavirus-and-reconstructing-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-427888

michaelh

OK Reposting from
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/15/deconstructing-chinazi-iranian-fake-news-false-narratives-about-coronavirus-and-reconstructing-the-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-427882
A few nested reposts . . .
I’m amazed how I keep coming back to the same points over again as I think through this.
Earlier hybrid warfare discussion – kind of a slap-dash primer on the subject:
20200228: Attention all QTreeps, Need Your Help, Please.
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/20200228-attention-all-qtreeps-need-your-help-please/comment-page-3/#comment-414165
Next my thinking on how this maps to WWIV as hybrid war:
Reposting from:
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/20200228-attention-all-qtreeps-need-your-help-please/comment-page-3/#comment-414179
The following is not updated from March 1st; that said it was intended to be potentially a living outline with updates/changes as more facts became known.
Scattered thoughts on Coronavirus as Hybrid Warfare and/or Hybrid Warfare Experiment
Bill Gates:
Assigned Pandemic orchestration
Ground prep for academic plausibility and discourse
Create groundwork for later media hysteria
Assigned role of weakening Food Supply, particular Beef and Dairy
+Famines? Locusts?
Instigate market Crash
George Soros:
Assigned inbound immigration/refugee influx – Open Borders Plan
Pandemic Amplification
NGO activity in Central/South America
Infiltrate and Undermine Religious Opposition
+ Reduce Trump base
Other Actors:
Barry
+Venezuela (Hugo Chavez)
News Media Actors
Hollywood
DS actors
+CDC link to [RR]
…add others…
Hybrid warfare categories:
Bio:
Release engineered nCoV
Observe effects ground level Wuhan
Monitor response, identify weaknesses
Gather before and after data, determine efficacy of attack
Prop & PsyOp:
Hollywood ground prep – endless pandemic films, post-apocalyptic film, sold to masses
News Media – Hype, fear pr0n, blame-cast to Trump
Economic:
Dramatically shake up supply chains
Monitor impact on supply chains
Trigger massive stock sell off
Profit from bear market
Trigger 2020 recession pre-Election – undermine Trump achievements/vote
Worldview:
Soros target to infiltrate and support open borders plans
* Catholic Church
* SBC via ERLC
* PCA via Tim Keller
* UMC (currently in split)
* Others (Episcopal/Anglican, Lutheran, etc.)
Targeted doctrinal change:
– Promote Refugees via EIT
– Support social justice causes (manipulated toward Soros ends) and undermine gospel
– Undermine pro-life support, confuse pro-life with social justice
– Split Evangelical + Catholic vote from Trump
– Push Dem support. Make Trump unthinkable, make Democrats seem moral
– Use LGBT issues as a wedge in the church, ie. “Revoice”
– Transgenderism – undermine and stop opposition
CO-PROP: GOD WINS!
DS Follow up Plan
Democrat Clown Car:
– Massive Taxes (Venezuela Model)
– Destroy Healthcare options
– Destroy U.S. medical/vaccine/research
– Above prep for future exploit
Pandemic Test / BioW Experiment
Phase 1: nCoV, massive real world experiment
(Real world trial. Similar to China intentionally crashing its own satellite.)
Phase 2, after results gathered
CALI Gov’s in on plan
Pelosi a key player – Pink Tie signaling from Trump?
Hybrid Proxy wars (Trump puts end to “endless wars”)
Revelation 6:1-8 – Four Horsemen
Conquest
War
Famine
Death
Note: I did mention the Cyber domain of Hybrid warfare in a separate comment:
*https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/28/20200228-attention-all-qtreeps-need-your-help-please/comment-page-2/#comment-413704
Now the Cyber domain has criminal threat actors trying to exploit the Coronavirus panic with phishing emails and fake maps that deploy malware.

michaelh

I’ve had lingering questions about what was causing the INFESTATION of LEFTIST thinking throughout the business world.
Nike imploding it’s brand, for what? To boost China? To promote propaganda to demoralize Americans and their will to fight, Capernick style?
What about Levi Strauss company?
Or Gillette?
Not to mention the NFL.
Or the NBA.
The list goes on and on, it seems endless, of companies constantly virtue-signalling and going FULL POTATO SJW.
Then I realized how deeply the Chinese have been targeting American businesses for literally DECADES, enticing them to move manufacturing to China, while the CEO’s go all fat-cat building a multi-national empire inflating their stock price to the expense of Main Street America.
And China staging the high-power executive deal making round-tables and conferences, ways to use MONEY as the lure to pull them in, and entrap American CEOs . . .
Just like they did to Academia.
Just like they were doing to the Governors.
Just like the debt traps they were pulling on OBOR nations.
Yes, a big part of it is the insider trading, using short sales for massive profit. That, in itself, is HUGE.
But it’s not all of it.
2/29/2020:
Economic:
Dramatically shake up supply chains
Monitor impact on supply chains
Trigger massive stock sell off
Profit from bear market
Trigger 2020 recession pre-Election – undermine Trump achievements/vote
We are coming into a potential liquidity crisis in the U.S. much like the one that triggered the September 18, 2008 financial crisis.
While that one was caused by the sub-prime mortgage crisis, which again was 100% ENGINEERED by the Democrats, and gave us that BEAUTY of FRANK DODD whose pin is slowly being pulled out like a hand grenade . . .
We have a slew of CEOs and CEO replacements who will be happy to suicide or take losses in their companies to destroy the economy, prop up the INFORMATION WAR that we are in a depression, and generally support any goal China wants.
It’s a whole of anti-America approach they are taking.
In essence, we’re talking about POLITIZED CORPORATIONS, who are being pushed from POLITICALLY NEUTRAL to the BLUE PRO-CHINA position by CEOs.
But would CEOs really do this?
Oh yes, you bet your bottom dollar they would.
If they stand to gain financially in a BIG way from destroying their companies, you can be sure they will happily inflict maximum harm to achieve a personal financial windfall.
WEAPONIZED by China.
They will intentionally sabotage their own supply chains, upstream and downstream, refuse to pay their workers, while firing/laying off/furloughing every line worker they possibly can, shutting down factory operations, liquidating corporate assets, taking money happily from the Government relief program, buy back their own stock anyway, quickly and quietly restructure their off-shoring plan to serve their own interest and get money OUT of the U.S., refuse to pay their accounts payable, while being MERCILESS AND DEMANDING on their accounts receivable, and pressuring every partner relationship they have to do the same…
A huge effort to throw a wrench in the economic engine of the United States.
I can’t stretch out all my thoughts on this here. I have to be satisfied to say what I’ve said here.
Trump has already enlisted American corporations in THE FIGHT AGAINST THE INVISIBLE ENEMY
The INVISIBLE ENEMY will be VISIBLE to all soon.

Gail Combs

A comment on Gillette.
It used to be a VERY GOOD well run company. I think it had NO DEBT, that is it owned it’s plants and equipment outright and even had it’s own power plant in Boston. Then came the leveraged buyouts under Reagan.
JAN. 25, 1991
Gillette chairman dies of heart attack

Colman Mockler Jr., the Gillette Co. executive who fended off two major takeover attempts of the personal care and consumer products giant in recent years, died Friday of an apparent heart attack, the company said. He was 61.
Mockler, who had been chairman and chief executive officer of the world’s largest razor and blade maker since the mid-1970s, collapsed at the company’s world headquarters in Boston, a spokeswoman said.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/01/25/Gillette-chairman-dies-of-heart-attack/8480664779600/

What is really interesting was the company was PREDOMINANTLY CATHOLIC! Most of the people working there were Irish, Italian, or Hispanic Catholic….

michaelh

Leveraged buyouts? Well well well. Sounds like more fun in the coming weeks . . .

Gail Combs

Note the date — 1991.
Note Coleman’s — age 61
Note what happened — SUDDEN heart attack.
Gillette was a cash cow with very little debt. The even OWNED their health insurance! The Banksters wanted to exchange the REAL wealth for their fiat currency. That is what a leveraged buyout does.

What Is a Leveraged Buyout?
A leveraged buyout (LBO) is the acquisition of another company using a significant amount of borrowed money to meet the cost of acquisition. The assets of the company being acquired are often used as collateral for the loans, along with the assets of the acquiring company.

KEY TAKEAWAYS
A leveraged buyout is the acquisition of another company using a significant amount of borrowed money (bonds or loans) to meet the cost of acquisition.
One of the largest LBOs on record was the acquisition of Hospital Corporation of America (HCA) by Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co. (KKR), Bain & Co., and Merrill Lynch in 2006.
In a leveraged buyout (LBO), there is usually a ratio of 90% debt to 10% equity….

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/l/leveragedbuyout.asp

THAT is what happened to our American Owned Companies!

michaelh

Gee, that sounds like something that should be, I dunno, illegal or somefin. . .

coosmama

Cloward and Piven. Nice whiteboard, Michaelh!

prognosticatasaurusrex

Spot on!

michaelh

Oh goodie – I just stumbled on this in my notes! Let’s talk about China’s Imperial Ambitions . . .
This will make most academics angry. They will NOT accept these categories.
* Colonization existed long prior to the 1500s. It has, in fact been a characteristic of civilizations from ancient times, notably Babylon, Persia, Hellenistic Greece, Rome, Muslim conquests, and on we can go.
* Age of Exploration, 1500s began the Exploration phase
* Exploitation – taking of wealth from a site, often an explored site. For instance, trappers capturing hides in the New World and taking them back to the Old World
* Colonization 1600s – Establishment of remote centers of productive activity
* Colonization was largely focused on productivity, exploitation as extraction.
* Confusion exists primarily b/c leftist academics confuse production and exploitation into the same concept. In their worldview, colonization is always, necessarily, and wholly exploitative. In reality, colonies that are completely exploitative are FAILURES. Joseph Conrad wrote of FAILED colonies that were exploitative – exhibited predation.
* Colonies were productive but still subject to mercantilism, where the colonies’ economic surplus was exported via deficit to the mother country
* Integration 1800s-early 1900s – Colonial economies and mother nation economies move from the mercantilism model to a more inter-dependent model, with a more fair trading regiment.
* Marxism 1917 – became a major ideological and economic challenger with the rise of the USSR
* Socialism, Fascism, Communism 1930s – Affected all nations and created massive economic disasters, ex: The Great Depression, The New Deal
* Globalization 1945 to Present – The post-war order, Marshall Plan where wealthy nations assist war torn and under-developed nations (a new concept) become economically sustainable. Concept of “first-world” and “third-world” become common nomenclature
* Globalism is just a name for another stage of Colonialism. Instead of mercantilism of wealth from colonies to mother nations, the new mercantilism is the movement of wealth from first-world nations to third-world nations, ostensibly for development. In reality many of these relationships were corrupt, predatory, and exploitative.
* De-colonization 1950s – The shedding of empires into nations. Also described as Post-colonialism.
* Academics describe the USSR as a champion of De-Colonization. They deny the USSR’s obvious colonial ambitions. The Cold War was a major economic conflict to prevent the rabid colonial ambitions of the imperial USSR. Therefore de-colonization should be understood as actual Colonization by Marxist Communism.
* USSR’s motivation in De-Colonization was to reduce Western (first-world capitalistic) influence on other nations, that they could then influence into their orbit and with Marxism. It was exploitative in nature, as is all communism.
* Accelerated Globalization 1970s – The process of globalization (or reverse colonization) was not going fast enough so efforts were made to stymie the first-world economic progress to redirect investment and give time for third world countries to “catch up”
* End of Cold War 1990
* Pseudo-capitalistic China 1990 to present – Pure communism failed but instead of ending the economic war the goal became to use capitalist tools against the first-world capitalist nations. Controlled capitalism became embraced by China.
* China granted status as a “developing nation” to enable the globalist (reverse colonization) economic shift – reverse mercantilism where first-world nations (U.S.) were put at a disadvantage and China exploits the relationship
* International priorities on treaties and plans to further slow first-world economic development. United States highly independent economy was stubbornly resistant to international attempts to slow it down.
* China Globalism, aka One Belt One Road – Create a world-wide belt of exploitative partnerships with other nations to self-advantage while simultaneously dis-advantage the U.S.
This outline can be extended indefinitely.
* Donald Trump throws a monkey wrench in the globalist machine and powerfully asserts economic nationalism. Other nations begin to follow suit as populism rises against elitist economic globalism.

Gail Combs

If we are going to talk history, I had a stray thought.
The Globalist goal is to reduce humanity to about 500 million people or less.comment image
As Ted Turner, founder of CNN and the UN Foundation bluntly put it during an interview with Audubon magazine.
“A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” – Source: The book You Don’t Say, by Fred Gielow, 1999, page 189.
This explains Global warming anti-coal/oil propaganda.
Abraham Darby (1678 to 1717)

Englishmen Abraham Darby (1678 to 1717) invented coke smelting in 1709 and, advanced the mass production of brass and iron goods. Coke smelting replaced charcoal with coal in metal foundries during the process of refining metals; this was important to Britain’s future since charcoal at that time was becoming scarce and was more expensive…..

Also with coal derived coke you can mass produce metal, something much harder to do with charcoal produced from wood.
Once you had Abraham Darby’s inventions the industrial revolution (1760 to 1830) became possible and human population took off.comment image
The elite want to reduce most of the population to the life style of the 1600s (before massive coal use) and to do that you have to reduce the population to less than 500 million. Without coal iron becomes hard to smelt and you return to wooden products and humans as the ‘source’ of energy.

michaelh

P.S. If someone has the link to the video of Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaking to the Governors earlier this year and could link it here . . .comment image
That would be Great.

michaelh

Just a clip from the National Governor’s Association speech
https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1226321985422209024

Gail Combs

Feb 8, 2020 Secretary Pompeo to Deliver Remarks at the National Governors Association Winter Meeting

Peter Navarro says we have a WAR TIME President…. HMMMmmmm

prognosticatasaurusrex

Gail, I just told Wolf, the STORM we all were warned about by Trump and Q is HERE. THIS event is it. Public, and UNDENABLE. A NATIONAL emergency. Too many coincidences. FAR too many to be “random”

michaelh

Thanks Gail!

Gail Combs

Y W 😁

Gail Combs

AND it wasn’t just in the USA. CHINA was well aware of remedies:
Title: Potential Interventions for Novel Coronavirus in China: A Systematic Review
Lei Zhang, Yunhui Liu* Department of Neurosurgery, Shengjing Hospital of China Medical University
Received: 30 January 2020 | Accepted: 4 February 2020

…Chloroquine is a 9-aminoquinoline known since 1934. Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug also has many interesting biochemical propertiesincluding antiviral effect. In addition, it had been used against viral infection90. Moreover, chloroquine was also found to be a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection through interfering with ACE2, one of cell surface binding sites for S protein of SARS-CoV 91….
Antiviral treatments
3.1. Ribavirin
3.2. Lopinavir (LPV)/ritonavir (RTV) (Kaletra)
3.3. Remdesivir
3.4. Nelfinavir
3.5 Arbidol
3.6. Nitric oxide
*https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/jmv.25707

….
CHINA and a SARS-CoV Vaccine.
ADE = Antibody-Dependent Enhancement.
WIKI: “Antibody-dependent enhancement occurs when non-neutralizing antiviral proteins facilitate virus entry into host cells, leading to increased infectivity in the cells.”
This paper explains the problem:
The Complexity of Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of Dengue Virus Infection
*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3185591/
Or in layman’s terms:

“After a person is infected with dengue, they develop an immune response to that dengue subtype. The immune response produced specific antibodies to that subtype specific surface proteins that prevents the virus from binding to macrophage cells (the target cell that dengue viruses infect) and gaining entry. However, if another subtype of dengue virus infects the individual, the virus will activate the immune system to attack it as if it was the first subtype. The immune system is tricked because the four subtypes have very similar surface antigens. The antibodies bind to the surface proteins but do not inactivate the virus. The immune response attracts numerous macrophages, which the virus proceeds to infect because it has not been inactivated. This situation is referred to as Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (ADE) of a viral infection. This makes the viral infection much more acute. The body releases cytokines that cause the endothelial tissue to become permeable which results in Dengue Haemorrhagic Fever (DHF) and fluid loss from the blood vessels….
*http://www.denguevirusnet.com/antibody-dependent-enhancement.html

….
This paper from 2014 showed SARS-CoV had the similar characteristic as Dengue Virus making a normal vaccine worse than useless.
May 6 2014
Antibody-dependent infection of human macrophages by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus.
AUTHORS:
Yip MS, Leung NH, Cheung CY, Li PH, Lee HH, Daëron M, Peiris JS, Bruzzone R1, Jaume M.

….We have previously reported that antibodies elicited by a SARS-CoV vaccine candidate based on recombinant, full-length SARS-CoV Spike-protein trimers, trigger infection of immune cell lines….
RESULTS:
We show here that anti-Spike immune serum increased infection of human monocyte-derived macrophages by replication-competent SARS-CoV…
CONCLUSIONS:
These results demonstrate that human macrophages can be infected by SARS-CoV as a result of IgG-mediated ADE….
*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24885320?dopt=Abstract

By March 14, 2018 they had a good grasp on a solution. (If the paper was published in 2018 it was probably started at least a year earlier)
Evaluation of Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of SARS-CoV Infection in Rhesus Macaques Immunized with an Inactivated SARS-CoV Vaccine

….Generally, virus-specific antibodies play important roles in the control of viral infections. However, the presence of specific antibodies can be beneficial for infection in case of some viruses including flaviviruses, CoVs, and retroviruses (de Alwis et al. 2014; Jolly and Weiss 2000; Takano et al. 2008). Vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to SARS-CoV has been documented. One study showed that the antibody against SARS-CoV spikes protein potentiated infection of both monocytic and lymphoid cell lines, which do not express the virus receptor, and reported antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)-mediated vaccine-induced infection aggravation (Yip et al. 2014)….
It has been demonstrated that higher concentrations of anti-sera against SARS-CoV neutralized the SARS-CoV infection, while highly diluted anti-sera significantly increased the SARS-CoV infection and triggered ADE effects (Wang et al. 2014). Moreover, the low levels of neutralizing antibodies are more consistent in the context of vaccination of the general population. <=== The OH! SCHIFF!
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The results suggested that the inactivated vaccine was safe and the immunized rhesus macaques could be used as the model for testing ADE of the candidate vaccine. <==== The SOLUTION!
*https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs12250-018-0009-2


And guess what?
China claims the first coronavirus vaccines could be in ‘clinical use’ next month
• Officials expected some vaccines to be in ‘clinical or emergency use’ from April 
*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8082805/China-claims-coronavirus-vaccine-clinical-use-April.html
Was it available a LOT earlier? For SELECTED people?
Was there actually a major epidemic in China or was it all Kabuki theater?
Was THAT why the US reporters were tossed and US medical help snubbed?
Or were only those with low social scores dying?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This is exactly how CHINA manipulates scientific publication to create FALSE TIMELINES.
China manipulated publication in the WEST to create the climate hoax. Manipulating their own publications is easy. They were WELL AWARE of the drugs earlier, IMO. That is part of why the Wuhan outbreak looks so hoaxy – IT IS. The CCP and some of the scientists knew the full plan, including the drug.
If you KNOW about the drug, the plan becomes THINKABLE to people like ChiComs and Dems.

Gail Combs

YES!
With a Drug/Vaccine THEN the virus becomes a very useful WEAPON.
You and yours are protected or cured.
You can ‘enforce Quarantine’ on your political enemies and use that as an excuse to round them up and make them disappear. (Think China’s social scores.)
YOU CAN CONFISCATE PRIVATELY OWNED GOLD. (China for years was encouraging the Chinese to BUY GOLD)
China, Iran and France had major problems with protesters. Despite the cooperation of our treasonous Fake News, word was getting out. WORSE in Iran the protestors had outside help who were slowly picking off the top leaders of the current leadership.
President Trump was not only winning in the USA, he was winning world wide. The EU was slowly collapsing.
China like all other communist/socialist dictatorships RELIES ON OTHER PEOPLE’S MONEY. As Daughn and others showed many of their corporations and ‘ghost cities’ are built out of paper-mâché. What happens when the USA civil servants and teachers find out that they HAVE LITTLE OR NO PENSIONS because the money was sent to China and invested in Kubiki theaters built out of paper-mâché??
⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ THAT has the DNC and China scared out of their wits. With President Trump SQUEEZING China and corporations moving back to the USA, the whole scheme is going to implode. What do you think ALL those ‘Social Justice Warrior’ Commie BureauRats, now retiring are going to do in California and New York when they find out those nice big pensions they thought they had are nothing but unicorn farts??? What do you think their spoilt rotten kids are going to do when they realize Mom’s generous paycheck won’t be coming anymore and Mom, instead of helping pay the bills has to move in with you?

What happens when people learn the TRUTH?
What happens when people WAKE UP?
They will not be able to walk down the street.
THE GREAT AWAKENING.
Q

prognosticatasaurusrex

EXACTLY. POTUS and Q KNEW this was coming (in some form) they just did not know WHEN. They may have not known the EXACT virus, and that is why we are currently “accessing” It is AWFULLY suspicious to me, that SOMEONE, knew what the cure was, and even had the FORSIGHT to have 50 MILLION doses at the READY.
They most likely knew of the Gates conference, and the movie foreshadowing, they KNEW it would be something “normal” like a virulent Corona virus. They KNEW the cure for ALL corona viruses, was chloroquine, they have KNOWN since 2005.
They just did NOT have the exact sequence, to determine the DOSE. It is very MUCH like SARS, therefore, during this “pause” they were quietly sequencing the virus, learning from overseas testing, confirming HERE with MASSIVE testing that they were one in the same.
Now, the stockpile cure, can be correctly administered. The testing here has ALREADY been done, NY in NOW the petri dish.
The successes confirmed there, and we WILL know in just a matter of DAYS, will be the END of this weapon… and then those that brought about this “pandemic” are in for their own awakening, it will not be quick, and they will NOT enjoy it.

Gail Combs

POLITICS
(In no particular order)
TIMELINE: from Debisha_MCGAcomment image
As David Archibald told us China and Xi HATE AMERICA.
They blame us for the Century of Humiliation. SEE:
*https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/04/china_picks_at_the_scab_to_keep_the_wound_fresh.html
On top of that President Trump has put a major crimp in the Communist plans to cripple the USA and takeover the leadership of the world via Belt and Road and all that.
They are willingly added by left over US government bureaucrats and the US Universities both of which are 90%-95% DEMOCRAT/Socialists if not straight out communists.
 Flashback: CDC Workers Were “Crying in the Hallways” When Trump Was Elected President 
*https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/flashback-cdc-workers-were-crying-in-the-hallways-when-trump-was-elected-president/
and
 Universities Discriminate Against Conservatives
*https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/yes-universities-discriminate-against-conservative-scholars/
President Trump is NOT a biologist or a doctor and is therefore FORCED to rely on these Democrat-Progressive ‘Experts’ for advice. People who intensely dislike him and WANT the USA to continue to ‘progress’ towards a socialist vassal state of a totalitarian world government modeled after the European Union.
On top of our trojan horse Urinalists in the Fake News and Jack boot’s censorship, we have to contend with CHINA’s Digital ‘Wu Mao’ ARMY :
*https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1240070373841997824comment image
GUIDLINES FOR PROPAGANDA REGARDING TO US AMID EPIDEMICcomment imagecomment image
In Chinese if you wish to translate:😁
comment image

michaelh

^^^ INFORMATION WARFARE / PROPAGANDA
A key component of IRREGULAR WARFARE
Conducted through “social media”
DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?

Concerned Virginian

Just archived the English-translations Q and A sections above in case they’re “disappeared” from the internet.

Gail Combs

Great idea. You might want to ‘store’ the archived editions on the meme thread with a sentence that makes them easy to locate with the find function [ctrl][f]

Gail Combs

And if that doesn’t convince you that the Commies are at the VERY LEAST taking advantage of the situation:
— CDC sent out DEFECTIVE KITS to all but THREE STATES!
— CDC rules were overly restrictive and CDC refused to even do a small sentinel sample of general public screening on people that do not meet their presumptive risk category until President Trump put his foot down.
— CDC had run just 426 tests from Jan 21 to Feb 24
— BUT 746 people in Washington state who were under supervision for coronavirus and were released as ‘cleared’ after 14 days HOW? Using defective test kits? Or thermometers? Symptoms may not show for 21 and in one case 27 days.
A Seattle infectious-disease expert named Dr. Helen Y. Chu tried to test people as soon as the first case was reported in her area, but the CDC prevented it.
Dr. Chu finally went ahead and tested anyway.
Washington state ordered her to stop. 
Rigidity of thought, bureaucratic red tape, and the pigheadedness of government employees prevented Dr. Chu from getting out in front of the epidemic.
*https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1237911399382183936.html
So “Nursing homes in Washington state have been instructed to limit visitors as coronavirus cases spread across 11 facilities…24 occurred in Washington, with at least 19 deaths tied to Kirkland’s Life Care Center….
A majority of the residents currently in the building are infected, with 31 patients at the center testing positive on Monday [March 11] alone…”

YET, a doctor was PREVENTED from testing and anti-virals KNOWN TO WORK plus Right To Try were ignored. (I hope relatives SUE THE CRAP OUT OF WASHINGTON STATE!)
And how about how Nancy Pelosi bought time by withholding the articles of impeachment from the Senate in December 2019 so the virus could get a really good hold while President Trump attention (and that of the country) was diverted?
AND then she wandered through the China Town in San Francisco?
February 24, 2020 at 1:33 pm
Pelosi Tours San Francisco’s Chinatown To Quell Coronavirus Fears
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2020/02/24/coronavirus-speaker-house-nancy-pelosi-tours-san-franciscos-chinatown/
Did Pelosi KNOW there was a cure or maybe she had the VACCINE from China!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, they knew about CHLOROQUINE! She knew she probably wouldn’t catch it. And she HAS IT because of her trips abroad!!! Probably has a TON.

prognosticatasaurusrex

You bet your rear they knew and HAD the cure, or NO WAY these cowards would even leave the comfort of their mansions. NO WAY.

Gail Combs

AMEN!!! P-Rex,
ALL of the elite would be locked in their gated communities with armed guards, testing stations and sanitization of incoming supplies!
The fact the HOUSE and SENATE were conducting the Sham-Peach-Mint DURING the transmission phase of this virus tells you all you need to know. And do not forget all the trips to the middle east and the EU. 435 members of the House and 100 in the Senate = 535 people PLUS STAFF.
House Members cannot employ more that 18 permanent employees, but that does not include temporary employees and interns.
“…The administrative and clerical assistance allowance is allocated according to the population of a Senator’s state. The FY2010 Senate report included preliminary allowance figures that varied from $2,453,206 for a Senator representing a state with a population under 5,000,000 to $3,898,853 for a Senator representing a state with a population of 28,000,000 or more.
According to the Senate report on the FY2010 legislative branch appropriations bill, each Senator is authorized $508,377 to appoint up to three legislative assistants, to be paid a maximum of $169,459 each per annum…”

*http://library.clerk.house.gov/reference-files/112_20110104_
Senior members are on more committees and are responsible for more staffers doing committee liaison work. These people are separate and distinct from those doing legislative work in the office itself. The committee liaison staff may formally be committee staff and paid out of those accounts.
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So to be conservative say 10 people for each Congress critter = five to six THOUSAND people and NONE GOT SICK in January, February and most of March????
Yeah, RIGHT!

michaelh

DANG. Everyone is lit up tonight!
Daughn goes in for the HAT TRICK tonight . . .comment image
Gail is ON FIRE
http://blogs.nottingham.ac.uk/researchexchange/files/2012/06/brain-on-fire.jpg
Marica:
https://marica1776.wordpress.com/2020/03/26/my-special-friends/
boondocksaint1:
What is going on here??!!
https://marica1776.wordpress.com/2020/03/26/what-is-going-on-here/

Gail Combs

WUHAN CORONA VIRUS AS WEAPON?
hiding the evidence
WHAT IS INTERESTING is the lengths ‘they’ are going to keep the public from knowing about Professor Zhengli Shi of the Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China.
Paper from India, the authors were harassed into withdrawing:
Uncanny similarity of unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike protein to HIV-1 gp120 and Gag
*https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1

Abstract
…..We found 4 insertions in the spike glycoprotein (S) which are unique to the 2019-nCoV and are not present in other coronaviruses. Importantly, amino acid residues in all the 4 inserts have identity or similarity to those in the HIV-1 gp120 or HIV-1 Gag. Interestingly, despite the inserts being discontinuous on the primary amino acid sequence, 3D-modelling of the 2019-nCoV suggests that they converge to constitute the receptor binding site. The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. This work provides yet unknown insights on 2019-nCoV and sheds light on the evolution and pathogenicity of this virus with important implications for diagnosis of this virus.

This is an article that was removed:
*https://web.archive.org/web/20200203110836/https://medium.com/@realAdrianBond/coronavirus-exposed-part-1-communist-coverup-or-pandemic-bioweapon-of-mass-destruction-229ad482c0d3
It goes into incredible detail on the evidence. The google map change in location of the bio-lab so it is not so close to the Wet Market and tons of papers.

This is the article that got Zerohedge permanently banned from Twitter:
Is This The Man Behind The Global Coronavirus Pandemic?
*https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-behind-global-coronavirus-pandemic
Dr Boyle’s interview with Jones was labeled ‘Fear porn’
They ALL have Professor Zhengli Shi and Shi’s work in common.
This is Dr Boyle’s Transcript. He drafted the USA Biological Weapons Act and is very angry about the situation. It is an Alex Jones video but there is the transcript so you can read to save your ears.
(Note the USA Biological Weapons Research aka ‘gain in function’ was shut down but OH!Bummer ALONG WITH FUNDING FROM DR FAUCI’s DEPT & CHINA started it up again!)
*https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-20-full-transcript-smoking-gun-interview-prof-frances-boyle-coronavirus-bioweapons.html
I took a look at the 2015 paper that Dr Boyle discuses and his statements in the transcript and found them accurate. The Australian paper and the Paper by the French that confirmed the findings by the paper from India, I was not able to find.
PAPER: A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26552008
The French paper abstract:
*https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0166354220300528
You have to pay for the full article. Mike Adams did so and goes over the paper HERE:
*https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-19-covid-19-coronavirus-found-to-contain-gain-of-function-for-efficient-spreading-human-population.html
…..
People have the most trouble with Dr Boyle’s statement:
”Today in USA Today, Tony Fauci admits that the lethality rate of MERS is about 36%, whereas SARS is 10%. This Wuhan is 15% to 17%.”
The numbers coming out of China show 18% severe or Critical patients out of the total infected. (From about a month ago)
*https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

76% of the confirmed 2019-nCov cases from 1 hospital in Wuhan required oxygen therapy. remember the pulse oximeter in my prep list? That list came from 10s of hours of research. I am not your random fintwit-turned-coronavirus-guru guy with a paranoia….

FROM: *

If they die without oxygen therapy that is ~ 14% die. Not too far off Dr Boyle’s estimate. Also he would have access to papers and information that is hidden from the public.

michaelh

Public Service Announcement:

Gail Combs

I sure as heck hope they have the EVIDENCE to make the entire country turn against these treasonous SOBs!
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D’s Are Trapped
Q
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10 Feb 2020 – 1:25:03 PM
Anonymous
10 Feb 2020 – 1:21:33 PM
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>>8092721
Caught them all!
>>8093005
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Pompeo Knew about China’s United Front Work Department from His Days Leading the CIA (Q Proof)
Q
!!Hs1Jq13jV6
8 Feb 2020 – 8:57:04 PM
https://twitter.com/JuliansRum/status/1226321985422209024📁
Confirmed.
Q
….
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Secretary Pompeo Knows Which US Governors Have Sold Out to China
Q
!!Hs1Jq13jV6
8 Feb 2020 – 8:33:25 PM
https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1226271939142004737📁
An informed public threatens those in power.
Q
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The Lines Are Drawn Between Patriots and Traitors
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!!Hs1Jq13jV6
12 Feb 2020 – 11:45:18 AM
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The lines are drawn.
[Zw7301-&vQ-00-00-03]
Define Renegade [Hussein USSS code name].
Standard definition.
Define Evergreen [HRC USSS code name]
Non-standard defintion.
Think depopulation.
The Silent War continues…
…….
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GAME OVER
Q
!!Hs1Jq13jV6
17 Feb 2020 – 9:29:50 PM
To be blunt….
GAME OVER.
Q
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Do Not Fear
Q
!!Hs1Jq13jV6
21 Mar 2020 – 10:32:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MK0j765ko4📁
Do not fear.
Q
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D’s Adding No Voter ID and Anonymous ‘Ballot Harvesting’ to Coronavirus Bill
Q
!!Hs1Jq13jV6
23 Mar 2020 – 7:31:36 PM
https://twitter.com/RepAndyHarrisMD/status/1242178705050480640📁
PREVENT [[D] party destruction] BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
These people are sick!
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Nothing.

Q

michaelh
GA/FL

THE FACT THAT Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) + Zithromax works a TREATMENT, And the LIKELIHOOD that HCQ alone is a PREVENTATIVE as it does with malaria, skews the pandemic numbers from the outset.
It also turns this whole COVID-19 thing into a big world-wide POLITICAL SCANDAL and the article above turns it into a POLITICAL SCAM!
They knew another outbreak of SARS was coming…
They knew Asian bats had this virus since 2003….and
They did nothing about it.
ARE ANNUAL FLU VIRUSES BIG BUSINESS?
These annual flu season viruses and pandemic coronaviruses are not only looking like politically aimed BIOWEAPONS (against President Trump, for example) – the VIRUSES are also looking like BIG PROFITS for BIG PHARMA, Big medicine, Big hospital corporations….and ways/means for politicians to get Big Pharma $$$
COVID-19 AS POLITICAL – ECONOMICAL BIOWEAPON…
Trump makes China, Iran, EU, NATO nations toe the mark and play fair with our country.
Trump attacks Big Pharma and Big Medicine and Big Hospital with price reductions and transparency.
Trump attacks sanctuary cities, illegals working in US
This disease is looking like all of these entities striking back at Trump and the citizens of the USA.
One might also wonder if the elites in the various countries were taking HCQ before the outbreak.
(further thoughts carried over from the HCQ thread)

GA/FL

NY Guy posted this yesterday:
“Chinese Bats May Be Carrying the Next SARS Pandemic” in Wired magazine from 2013. Here’s a blurb.
“…For more than a year, scientists from China, Australia, and the United States collected anal swabs or fecal samples from horseshoe bats at a cave in Kunming, in the south of China. They found coronavirus RNA in 27 of 117 sampled animals. Among the viruses were two new strains of coronavirus that resemble the SARS strain more closely than those previously identified in bats, especially in the part of the genome coding for the important spike protein. The scientists also managed to isolate live virus from one of the animals. In experiments, reported online today in Nature, they showed that the virus infected pig and bat kidney cells, and perhaps more important, cells lining the human lung.”
https://www.wired.com/2013/10/bats-next-sars-pandemic/

GA/FL

In other words:
1. They (the science community) have known since the SARS outbreak in 2003 and since the studies in 2013 (see above) that another extreme respiratory coronavirus, SARS-2, was coming.
2. They (WHO, CDC, et al) did not develop vaccines then, despite the kajillion$ of $$$ spent.
3. They (WHO, UN, China) did not do anything about the diseases in the bats…or about Chinese eating raw animals.
4. They (Chinese and big money abortion and euthanasia genocide loving Bill Gates, Soro$) have been experimenting with viruses.
5. They (big medicine, big pharma, big hospital corps) do not do a lot to stop flu either….besides the flu vaccines and every year vaccines are becoming more ghoulish – containing elements of aborted human fetuses.
6. They (all of the above) also knew damn well that HCQ and Zithromax would stop the SARS 1 and SARS 2 viruses from creating a PANDEMIC and killing thousands or millions.
Look at the photo of the Senators mingling, business as usual, in the chamber.
Grrrrr.

Gail Combs

ALSO LOOK AT Pirbright Labs in UK funded by the Bill Gated Foundation.
THEY released Foot and mouth disease into the UK. INSTEAD OF USING VACCINATION (and yes there is a vaccine) The UN-OIE got to PRACTICE with their NEW DEPOPULATION PROTOCOL.
ALL animals within 10 kilometers get killed, unpainted wooden structures burned to the ground. 6.5 million animals were slaughtered, representing 70% of farms and farmers suicided. ALL because the UK government wanted to EXPORT and with Depoplution it would ‘only be three months’ until cleared by the UN-OIE but the use of a vaccine would require much longer.
And if you do not think this was an ‘EXPERIMENT’ here is ONE of the many Papers!
Psychosocial effects of the 2001 UK foot and mouth disease epidemic in a rural population: qualitative diary based study
The RESULTS?
The USA moves the infectious disease laboratory OFF Plum Island into KANSAS right smack in the middle of Cow country!!! Despite a study by the US government showing an outbreak in the USA PLUS the UN-OIE protocols would COMPLETELY WIPEOUT our cattle,sheep, goat and pig herds. OH and this is the same time period the USDA was trying to mandate microchiping and registering ALL LIVESTOCK and ALL ‘Premises’
So yes they are coming after our cows… AND they have the weapon to do it.

GA/FL

What happened to the entire FLORIDA CITRUS industry at the behest of the US gov. a few years back was mighty suspicious too.

Gail Combs

And the TOMATO INDUSTRY in Florida because of a disease LATER TRACED TO MEXICO.
WebMd: Salmonella Tomato Warning Expanded
Salmonella Outbreak in Certain Raw, Red Tomatoes Sickens at Least 167 People in 17 States
https://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/food-poisoning/news/20080610/salmonella-tomato-warning-expanded#1
June 10, 2008 CBS:

….Federal authorities today cleared fresh tomatoes grown in Florida and California of any responsibility in the national food poisoning scare, which has sickened 167 people since April. Those are the nation’s top two tomato-producing states.
At East Coast Growers and Packers near Tampa Florida, there’s a whole lot of tomato picking going on, but not much else….
Florida’s tomato packing plants are quiet. Shipping trucks empty and warehouses stocked with fruit that won’t sell. Ninety percent of the nation’s fresh tomatoes come from Florida fields this time of year. A $1-billion industry is on the verge of collapse, because of yet another food scare.….
*https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tomato-industry-threatened-by-outbreak/

THANK YOU WTO and the New HACCP regulations!
(Of course it did wonders in scaring people into accepting the Food Safety Modernization Act.)

Gail Combs

Speaking of SARS like Coronaviruses, China, Horseshoe Bats and LABS….
THIS IS THE ARTICLE THAT GOT ZERO HEDGE BANNED FROM TWITTER!
Is This The Man Behind The Global Coronavirus Pandemic?

… is a fabricated farce, and that the real reason behind the viral spread is because a weaponized version of the coronavirus (one which may have originally been obtained from Canada), was released by Wuhan’s Institute of Virology (accidentally or not), a top, level-4 biohazard lab which was studying “the world’s most dangerous pathogens”, perhaps it would be a good idea for the same Wuhan Institute of Virology to remove the following “help wanted” notice, posted on November 18, 2019, according to which the institute is seeking to hire one or two post-doc fellows, who will use “bats to research the molecular mechanism that allows Ebola and SARS-associated coronaviruses to lie dormant for a long time without causing diseases.”

The right candidate will:
♦️ Have obtained or is about to obtain a PhD in life science/biomedical related fields;
♦️ Have a reliable and rigorous work style, with strong independent scientific research ability and teamwork spirit;
♦️ Have strong English communication and writing skills, have research papers published in the international mainstream academic journals
♦️ Have a cell biology, immunology, genomics and other relevant background experience is preferred;

The full job posting, which can still be found on the Wuhan Institute of Virology website can be found here (and screengrabbed below as it will be gone within a few hours)….
*https://www.zerohedge.com/health/man-behind-global-coronavirus-pandemic

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GA/FL

Pat Frederick posted this yesterday – VERY INTERESTING:
“….test kits from China fail in Czech Republic
FTA
The Communist thugs in charge of China have been trying to have it two ways on coronavirus: Playing the aggrieved victim of racism/biological-warfare/whatever, and acting like the international bigshot who, having solved the crisis at home, is now eager to help other nations around the world.
Beijing’s antics are making everything worse everywhere, this time in the Czech Republic.
The Czech newspaper Irozhlas (I-Radio) reports that the bigshots in Beijing sent 150,000 coronavirus rapid testing kits to Czechia which return false results up to 80% of the time.”
https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/communist-quality-control-beijing-sends-150000-wuhan-virus-testing-kits-to-prague-80-fail/

GA/FL

Remember – PDJT said at the end of one press briefing that the WHO test was not good.
The USA wanted a more reliable test.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES. And in LIBTARD CIRCLES out there, the EVIL PRESS has been pushing the meme that it’s all “TRUMP’S FAULT” because he turned down foreign testing.
The DEMOCRAT cheerleader press serves CHINESE COMMUNIST interests. WHY? Because the DEMOCRAT interests ARE the CHICOM interests.

Gail Combs

The bought and paid for (and blackmailed) KNOW who their masters are and it AIN’T WE THE PEOPLE!

TradeBait

I take comfort in knowing that our elite patriot team led by PDT know the truth and are willing to do something about it.

GA/FL

High dose Vitamin C is being used against coronavirus in NY State
https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/amp/
Seriously sick coronavirus patients in New York state’s largest hospital system are being given massive doses of vitamin C — based on promising reports that it’s helped people in hard-hit China, The Post has learned.
Dr. Andrew G. Weber, a pulmonologist and critical-care specialist affiliated with two Northwell Health facilities on Long Island, said his intensive-care patients with the coronavirus immediately receive 1,500 milligrams of intravenous vitamin C.
Identical amounts of the powerful antioxidant are then readministered three or four times a day, he said.
Each dose is more than 16 times the National Institutes of Health’s daily recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C, which is just 90 milligrams for adult men and 75 milligrams for adult women.
The regimen is based on experimental treatments administered to people with the coronavirus in Shanghai, China, Weber said.
“The patients who received vitamin C did significantly better than those who did not get vitamin C,” he said.
“It helps a tremendous amount, but it is not highlighted because it’s not a sexy drug.”
A spokesman for Northwell — which operates 23 hospitals, including Lenox Hill Hospital on Manhattan’s Upper East Side — said vitamin C was being “widely used” as a coronavirus treatment throughout the system, but noted that medication protocols varied from patient to patient.

GA/FL
GA/FL

BAD Chinese and BAD WHO test kits = BAD NUMBERS.
Nobody can believe any of the COVID-19 – SARS-2 numbers.
You know what Mark Twain and/or Disraeli said about statistics.
“Lies, damned lies and statistics”
“Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable”

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Same thing in Spain. People are piZZed. I wouldn’t trust any of their PPE either! Wake up World, Accept NO HELP from ChiComms!!!

Dora
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Easiest answer is that CHINA IS LYING.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Damn Skippy!!

holley101

It’s not just about the virus. The overlords are also watching to see how society reacts to being told what to do during a crisis. Compliance.
“New York may lead the nation in confirmed coronavirus cases and deaths, but the Empire State is among the most responsive to social distancing guidelines, according to a new “social distancing scoreboard” website.
The human mobility data company Unacast launched the scoreboard on Tuesday. It grades every county in the country on its residents’ social distancing compliance using GPS location monitoring data aggregated from mobile apps.”
https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/03/coronavirus-scoreboard-new-york-gets-an-a-in-social-distancing-how-do-cny-counties-compare.html

Gail Combs

Well, since my cell phone sits on my computer desk 99% of the time (unless Hubby yells at me to take it) It ain’t going to do them much good in my case.
I really should move it back to the top of the toilet tank. 😁

pgroup

If it sits on the toilet and they remote turn on you microphone, you will be inundated with Imodium ads.

GA/FL

WE HAVE KNOWN AND BEEN WARNED of another Coronavirus Pandemic – another SARS or MERS – and H1N1 has been cranking out many hospitalizations and deaths every year since 2009.
Our medical and research and other agencies and their vaccines have been not been effective to say the least!

singingsoul1

Speaking with my son the biologists are expecting another wave of the China virus after this outbreak and then the virus becomes weaker and weaker this s only a prediction.
The good news i we are learning more and more how effectively to deal with his virus.

Gail Combs

THIS IS WHY THE CHINA VIRUS IS CRITICAL
With Trump putting an economic squeeze on the Chinese Economy, an economy BASED ON FRAUD the world would find out just how badly the Chinese had defrauded the world’s investors.
Daughn’s article on FAKE Chinese Corporations:
China, Inc. ~ The Largest Financial Crime of the Last 25 Years, and It’s Not Over.

….What happened in the USA between 2006 until today is economic warfare, pure and simple. It was intentional with malice aforethought. Americans were complicit because of their laziness and greed. Almost no due diligence has been done on Chinese companies which are publicly listed on the NYSE, and the financials are hidden from our SEC, or are easily faked by Chinese auditors who bought a franchise in Deloitte/Price Waterhouse, etc. Billions and billions of dollars has been bilked from US investors. The fraud and corruption are like nothing we’ve ever seen….
Everything was fine until an older stockbroker asked his son, who was working in China, to check out a particular company called Orient Paper, Inc. Dad was old school, gotta check it out before you buy…… that’s how we were trained. Dad was doing his due diligence. Well, what the son, Carson Block, learned was extraordinary. It was a paper company, but there was water everywhere in the factory. Half the equipment was broken, and there was no way in hell they were doing 100 million USD/year. The company listed 5 million in inventory on the books, which amounted to a rotting pile of cardboard, outside in the rain. Carson called his dad, asap. Carson also decided to write up a report about his findings and short the stock. Next morning, down 25%, by afternoon, down 55%. The company was a fraud.
Carson’s discovery was the very first ripple or WHIFF of irregularity….

PLEASE READ THE REST
Are NEW Chinese buildings really FALLING DOWN? (11 minutes)

MOAR from Daughn:
Best Interview on China – Kyle Bass and Robert Spalding.
https://wqth.wordpress.com/2019/10/23/best-interview-on-china-kyle-bass-and-robert-spalding/

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This proves it MASSIVELY. The CCP needed this virus to cover up. YUP. DNC needed one more P.O.S. to fling at Trump like MONKEY POOP. “Stronger Together”!comment image

grandmaintexas
Gail Combs

grandmaintexas:
READ:
CONFIRMED: CoVid-19 coronavirus found to contain unique “gain-of-function” property “for efficient spreading in the human population” … exact quote from science paper just published in Antiviral Research
*https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-19-covid-19-coronavirus-found-to-contain-gain-of-function-for-efficient-spreading-human-population.html
University of North Carolina /Wuhan Lab paper on “gain-of-function” and “success” in creating a chimera SARS virus.
A SARS-like cluster of circulating bat coronaviruses shows potential for human emergence
*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26552008
“…Here we examine the disease potential of a SARS-like virus, SHC014-CoV, which is currently circulating in Chinese horseshoe bat populations. Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone….”
Chimeric = made in a lab
Full transcript of “smoking gun” bombshell interview: Prof. Francis Boyle exposes the bioweapons origins of the CoVid-19 coronavirus
*https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-02-20-full-transcript-smoking-gun-interview-prof-frances-boyle-coronavirus-bioweapons.html
Remove * to make the url active and then paste in a different tab or window.
The above is WHY I think this was a BIOWEAPON!!!
(The Chinese stole the viruses from Canadian and US labs also)

grandmaintexas

Yep! Saw that, too! I’m becoming really righteously effing pissed off.

Gail Combs

You and me BOTH!

What happens when people learn the TRUTH?
What happens when people WAKE UP?
They will not be able to walk down the street.
THE GREAT AWAKENING.

Q

grandmaintexas

I’m so over the corrupt, evil people running our lives.
Over. It.

michaelh

chimeric virus . . . human emergence
WOW.
Translation:
Frankenstein Rises

Gail Combs

Oh yeah, that study is a real smoking gun. Do read Dr Boyle’s interview or you can watch it.
Full transcript of “smoking gun” bombshell interview: Prof. Francis Boyle exposes the bioweapons origins of the CoVid-19 coronavirus
Dr. Boyle is the Biological warfare expert who wrote the US bio-warfare act.
This is even BETTER!!! It has links to ALL the STUDIES!
https://johnbwellsnews.com/us-biowarfare-act-author-studies-confirm-coronavirus-weaponized/

GA/FL

President Trump’s Schedule – Thursday – March 26, 2020
√ 8:00 AM – The President participates in a G20 Leaders’ video teleconference – Situation Room Closed Press
12:00 PM – The President participates in a video teleconference with Governors on partnership to prepare, mitigate, and respond to COVID-19 – Situation Room Closed Press
5:00 PM – Coronavirus Task Force press briefing
9:00 PM – Interview: Hannity on Fox News

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Seeing lots and lots of RAGE from India against “One Plague, One Road” China. GOOD. The whole world will unite in FUROR against China. Lots of people have been saying it’s the Government’s fault not the people, that’s turning too, now saying it’s the people’s fault for allowing the CCP. A BIG CHANGE is coming for China.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

MILLIONS of their poor people survive on the little cash they can earn on the street in a day. With the lockdown, they’re predicting more will die of starvation than from the virus.

Gail Combs

August 16, 2017: Indian and Chinese troops clash in disputed Himalayan border region

Tension has been high in mountain region of Ladakh and skirmishes come as both countries face off in other areas along Line of Actual Control
Indian and Chinese troops clashed briefly on a disputed area of land in the Himalayas, officials said, exacerbating tensions during a months-long standoff between the two armies.
Chinese troops threw stones at Indian soldiers near Pangong Lake, a major tourist attraction in the picturesque mountain region of Ladakh on Tuesday, an Indian defence official said….

Gail Combs

Daughn, Hope your business does very well.
My Hubby was getting very worried since our animals eat whether they are ‘working or not’ So I had to sit down and go over a spread sheet of fixed costs with him.😋 Now he is feeling better about things even though we have had to cancel/postpone all none essential like sheep shearing, hoof trimming, annual shots/tests that we can not do.
There is just no way to really make up lost ‘room/days’ or ‘gig/days’ for so many service businesses.

Concerned Virginian

http://www.wgal.com/article/state-police-to-assist-in-enforcement-of-closure-of-non-life-sustaining-businesses-encourages-compliance/31874861
March 23, 2020
So the DemCom Governor of PENNSYLVANIA, TOM WOLF, has given himself permission to become a quasi-dictator.
To make sure his edicts to force the people of Pennsylvania to shelter in place and to shutter ALL “non-life-sustaining” businesses, he ordered the Pennsylvania State Police, along with LOCAL law enforcement, to “assist” in enforcement.
** Those of WE, THE PEOPLE, who refuse to comply, OR to appear NOT TO BE COMPLYING ENOUGH, with the governor’s orders, can be FINED or JAILED.
So much for the peaceful “Penn’s Woods” that Benjamin Franklin envisioned for his beloved Pennsylvania.

kalbokalbs

It’s been two days since NY started their test run with HCQ and Z Packs. We should be hearing anecdotal reports of patient progress.
Understand there may be an order internally to med folks to keep their mouths shut, let the drill run its course. But I would think something would leak by now.

GA/FL

I’m on lockdown to avoid exposure due to disabled daughter. Haven’t been out of the yard for nearly 2 weeks.
However, if I get this SARS-2 – I will demand the doctor prescribe HCQ and Zithromax!!!
Same for my daughter.

kalbokalbs

Absolutely! Family First!

GA/FL

Birx looks a lot better now than back during her HIV campaign days.comment imagecomment imagecomment image

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Colorado on lockdown until April 11 (as I reported yesterday).
Interesting, gun stores are exempt. So are pot dispensaries (as, legally, it’s considered medicine here).
My pet bearded dragon, if he could understand such things, would be relieved to know pet stores are exempt, as that’s where I have to get his food (which will probably run out around April 5).

Gail Combs

pot dispensaries…
Cannabinoids as novel anti-inflammatory drugs
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2828614/

….Cannabinoid action on cytokines
Cytokines are the signaling proteins synthesized and secreted by immune cells upon stimulation. They are the modulating factors that balance initiation and resolution of inflammation. One of the possible mechanisms of immune control by cannabinoids during inflammation is the dys-regulation of cytokine production by immune cells and disruption of the well-regulated immune response [25]. Furthermore, cannabinoids may affect immune responses and host resistance by perturbing the balance between the cytokines produced by T-helper subsets, Th1 and Th2. In vitro studies were performed to compare the effect of THC and cannabinol on cytokine production by human T, B, CD8+, NK and eosinophilic cell lines. However, the results were variable, depending on the cell line and the concentration used…

The Lancet
COVID-19: consider cytokine storm syndromes and immunosuppression
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30628-0/fulltext

…Accumulating evidence suggests that a subgroup of patients with severe COVID-19 might have a cytokine storm syndrome. We recommend identification and treatment of hyperinflammation using existing, approved therapies with proven safety profiles to address the immediate need to reduce the rising mortality.
Current management of COVID-19 is supportive, and respiratory failure from acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) is the leading cause of mortality.2 Secondary haemophagocytic lymphohistiocytosis (sHLH) is an under-recognised, hyperinflammatory syndrome characterised by a fulminant and fatal hypercytokinaemia with multiorgan failure….

So pot may actually be helpful.
Glad to hear you will not have to go hunting for your bearded dragon. I just found a lovely fat white grub, and thought of your dragon as I scooped him into a container to give to my girl friend.. She says the bass LOVE those grubs so I am always on the look out. I dig the grubs, she catches the fish and we both get to eat fresh caught fish. Win-win!

MAGA Mom

FANTASTIC news!!! For the first time our “recovered” out number our “deaths”!!
1,080 deaths and 1,863 recovered
72,069 diagnosed cases yet to be resolved/active and ongoing
These are on a live dashboard and the numbers in all three will grow throughout the day. I hope the ratio remains and grows in recovered’s favor!
Recap reasons we have been expecting this:
1) Death has been quicker for some than the route to recovery. Many have died within a short time of being tested/confirmed diagnosed and hospitalized. However, those who are fully recovering take many days/weeks (filling hospital beds the entire time, of course). Recoveries take longer than do most of the deaths which do not seem to be lingering deaths.
2) testing has increased so we are now including milder cases in the diagnosed totals and mild cases have a higher recovery rate for obvious reasons. Previously, only those with severe cases/symptoms and those with known exposure to a diagnosed case so the severity of diagnosed cases was heavily populated with severe cases which would be more likely to pass away.
As expected as it has been for that number to begin to gain…so Happy to see Recovered significantly overtaking deaths. Finally!!!!!
(this is from the world o meters website that wp hates)

Deplorable Patriot

New Q. Also on the daily thread.
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26 Mar 2020 – 12:49:20 PM
https://twitter.com/Education4Libs/status/1243022336137351169
The Silent War continues..
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MAGA Mom

#3 … better treatments being found. figuring out what works leading to better results. oops forgot that Very Important reason/contributing factor for the ratio to begin to flip

MAGA Mom

that was meant to be under my post as #3 reason that the recoveries will begin to outpace the deaths.

Gail Combs

For those asking:
This is the French Study the Italians blew off.
Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin as a treatment of COVID-19: results of an open-label non-randomized clinical trial

Abstract
Background
Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have been found to be efficient on SARS-CoV-2, and reported to be efficient in Chinese COV-19 patients. We evaluate the role of hydroxychloroquine on respiratory viral loads.
Patients and methods
French Confirmed COVID-19 patients were included in a single arm protocol from early March to March 16th, to receive 600mg of hydroxychloroquine daily and their viral load in nasopharyngeal swabs was tested daily in a hospital setting. Depending on their clinical presentation, azithromycin was added to the treatment. Untreated patients from another center and cases refusing the protocol were included as negative controls. Presence and absence of virus at Day6-post inclusion was considered the end point.
Results
Six patients were asymptomatic, 22 had upper respiratory tract infection symptoms and eight had lower respiratory tract infection symptoms.
Twenty cases were treated in this study and showed a significant reduction of the viral carriage at D6-post inclusion compared to controls, and much lower average carrying duration than reported of untreated patients in the literature. Azithromycin added to hydroxychloroquine was significantly more efficient for virus elimination.
Conclusion
Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin.

Concerned Virginian

Gail Combs
The Italians have hated the French since LOUIS XIV invaded and occupied whole regions of Italy during his reign (Tuscany, Piedmont etc.). There may have been issues and antipathy between them before this, and certainly afterwards (France annexing Liguria in the 1860’s), but what Louis XIV did was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

phoenixrising37

Q drops on Daily THREAD

Deplorable Patriot

GA/FL

Replies to Keck’s reply to Bruno’s post are interesting:

Sounds like lots of false positives in the Chinese kits.

Gail Combs

No it means false negatives. It ONLY detects 30% of the people who have antibodies. This is a well known problem with the Chinese test and WHY I said Nancy Messonnier, with her CONCERN for people getting quarantied with her IMPLYING false positives was CRAP.
Sorry, I can not find the link but they were getting about 50% false negatives. A patient would test positive then negative and then positive.
Here is a more generic study. In a nutshell the secretions from the nose/sinuses and throat which are less viscous may not have enough virus to be detected compared to the thick gunk you cough up from deep in your lungs where the virus is multiplying.
This study seems to indicate the heavy viscosity of the sample makes testing difficult.
2014 Oct; Detection of Respiratory Viruses in Sputum from Adults by Use of Automated Multiplex PCR

….coronavirus OC43 (OC43), and human metapneumovirus (HMPV). Viruses were identified in 31% of 965 illnesses using a uniplex RT-PCR. The sputum sample was the only sample positive for 105 subjects, including 35% (22/64) of influenza cases and significantly increased the diagnostic yield of NTS alone (302/965 [31%] versus 197/965 [20%]; P = 0.0001). Of 108 sputum samples evaluated by the FilmArray assay using the dunk and swirl method, 99 (92%) were positive. Quantitative RT-PCR revealed higher mean viral loads in dunked sputum samples..
….Traditionally, viral testing has been performed on upper airway samples, usually nasal washes or nasopharyngeal swabs (9). Lower airway secretions collected from bronchoalveolar lavage have also been shown to be useful for the diagnosis of viral respiratory infections but are generally reserved for immunocompromised patients or severely ill persons with respiratory failure (10, 11). However, respiratory viruses have been detected in sputum samples from patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD), asthma, and cystic fibrosis (12,–15). Additionally, recent evidence indicates that certain viral pathogens such as H1N1 influenza, severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) coronavirus, and Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV), associated with severe lower respiratory tract involvement, may be absent in upper airway secretions (16,–18). Because the majority of hospitalized patients are not intubated and do not undergo bronchoalveolar lavage for diagnostic purposes, we previously investigated the use of sputum for viral testing as a representative sample from the lower airways. Using manual extraction and a uniplex RT-PCR, we found that sputum added approximately 11% to the diagnostic yield for many of the common respiratory viruses (19). Unfortunately, sputum is viscous and difficult to process, making its use in a clinical microbiology laboratory with automated equipment impractical….

Gail Combs

GRRRrrr
Just in case my long comment doesn’t show.
You are getting a lot of false NEGATIVES which is very bad news.
This older study explains you don’t find the virus in the nose and throat as often as you do from the stuff in the lungs where the virus is multiplying. Since that stuff is thick and gooey esp with this virus it is difficult to test.
*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4187748/

GA/FL

As I recall, they were detecting fine particles in the air from just breathing, not just sneezing/coughing. I’m not sure at what stage disease was at that point – hospitalized or not.

GA/FL

Here it is:
Breathing, not necessarily sneezing or coughing, may be more important than thought and vaccination, at least for type A influenza increases instead of decreasing the possibility of transmission.
The association of vaccination and shedding was significant for influenza A – might not be the same for the coronavirus.
Article:
Infectious Virus Exhaled breath of symptomatic influenza cases from a college community – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29348203https://www.pnas.org/content/115/5/1081

Gail Combs

Yes, I remember those papers. That is why I said the CDC 6 feet social distancing and no masks was Full of Schiff!
“…It was previously thought that the flu spreads mainly through large particles, or droplets, in the air that travel short distances, from 3 to 6 feet. But the new study showed most flu viruses are found in very small particles in the air, Bischoff said. Smaller particles can travel farther than larger ones, he said. Because the study did not look at distances beyond 6 feet, the researchers cannot say whether the flu virus can travel farther.…”
https://www.livescience.com/26753-flu-virus-travel-six-feet.html
A mask will not stop the spread but it probably would cut down the distance the virus laden particles could float. Even a scarf would help.
……
We made one last run for supplies about two weeks ago and have been home ever since. Being in Farm country mid NC, our town/county has been pretty much ‘disease free’ according to the stats I have seen so far.
We are well supplied but will run out of fresh fruit and milk/cream soon. Plenty of eggs thanks to someone who raises all sorts of birds.
We have powdered and canned milk, lactating goats and frozen berries so even that is not really a problem for a couple of weeks. And both my freezers are STUFFED!

Deplorable Patriot

bakocarl

I don’t see that they’ve taken into consideration the possible massive effect of a very liberal application of HCQ-Z protocol.
Forecasting COVID-19 impact on hospital bed-days, ICU-days, ventilator days and deaths by US state in the next 4 months
Research Article | IHME
Publication date: March 26, 2020
IMPORTANCE
This study presents the first set of estimates of predicted health service utilization and deaths due to COVID-19 by day for the next 4 months for each state in the US.
OBJECTIVE
To determine the extent and timing of deaths and excess demand for hospital services due to COVID-19 in the US.
DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS
This study used data on confirmed COVID-19 deaths by day from WHO websites and local and national governments; data on hospital capacity and utilization for US states; and observed COVID-19 utilization data from select locations to develop a statistical model forecasting deaths and hospital utilization against capacity by state for the US over the next 4 months.
EXPOSURE(S)
COVID-19.
MAIN OUTCOME(S) AND MEASURE(S)
Deaths, bed and ICU occupancy, and ventilator use.
RESULTS
Compared to licensed capacity and average annual occupancy rates, excess demand from COVID-19 at the peak of the pandemic in the second week of April is predicted to be 64,175 (95% UI 7,977 to 251,059) total beds and 17,309 (95% UI 2,432 to 57,584) ICU beds. At the peak of the pandemic, ventilator use is predicted to be 19,481 (95% UI 9,767 to 39,674). The date of peak excess demand by state varies from the second week of April through May. We estimate that there will a total of 81,114 deaths (95% UI 38,242 to 162,106) from COVID-19 over the next 4 months in the US. Deaths from COVID-19 are estimated to drop below 10 deaths per day between May 31 and June 6.
CONCLUSIONS AND RELEVANCE
In addition to a large number of deaths from COVID-19, the epidemic in the US will place a load well beyond the current capacity of hospitals to manage, especially for ICU care. These estimates can help inform the development and implementation of strategies to mitigate this gap, including reducing non-COVID-19 demand for services and temporarily increasing system capacity. These are urgently needed given that peak volumes are estimated to be only three weeks away. The estimated excess demand on hospital systems is predicated on the enactment of social distancing measures in all states that have not done so already within the next week and maintenance of these measures throughout the epidemic, emphasizing the importance of implementing, enforcing, and maintaining these measures to mitigate hospital system overload and prevent deaths.
Citation:
IHME COVID-19 health service utilization forecasting team. Forecasting COVID-19 impact on hospital bed-days, ICU-days, ventilator days and deaths by US state in the next 4 months. MedRxiv. 26 March 2020. doi:
*http://www.healthdata.org/research-article/forecasting-covid-19-impact-hospital-bed-days-icu-days-ventilator-days-and-deaths

MAGA Mom

this is a HUGE focus for hospital systems. They are ordering equipment to be ready as well as making significant changes to patient flow (facilitated by rules being waived/revamped by the feds for the emergency).
And this is a key reason to flatten the curve and slow the spread – spread out the use of our hospitals, buy time to prepare our hospitals, buy time to find effective treatments.
Tremendous pressure on our hospital systems as they cont. to prepare, make drastic changes to have the cashflow to prepare, lay off workers, etc. so they can buy materials and equipment to prepare…and are even right now feeling the pressure as their ICUs reach saturation in various markets. Entire departments are shifting to essential work, etc. This is a Big deal … and yet we will overcome it and get through it.
This is real and it is spreading and it is a serious situation. Trust Trump.
(while blasting Fake News about their lies concerning what President Trump has said/is saying and has done/is doing.)
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/finance/hca-strikes-deal-to-boost-financial-flexibility-amid-covid-19-pandemic.html

Gail Combs

There are also a lot of us Deplorables doing our bit. We were ‘social distancing’, taking precautions and stocking up WEEKS ago.
EM Smith (ChiefIO) was discussing prepping and OTC preventatives back in 26 January 2020 thanks to Larry Ledwick. (He died alone a month ago today.)
January 25th, Was Daughn’s first thread.
And Jo Nova (Australia) was trying to write a thread for three days and finally got it out February 1st.
That does not include the videos and other health oriented blogs getting the info out.
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MAGA Mom

you posted: EM Smith (ChiefIO) was discussing prepping and OTC preventatives back in 26 January 2020 thanks to Larry Ledwick. (He died alone a month ago today.)
1) Yes, we are informed on a personal level, in ways applicable to our personal lives because of what You shared and because of reading that blog. We would have been prepared to a degree anyway just being more away and informed that it was coming but reading your posts and that blog really helped us think through what to begin doing for ourselves and what to have on hand.
2) I had only been reading there for a matter of weeks when he passed and really don’t “know” any of the commenters/posters there. I realize that you did and am sorry for him, his family and that so many in that blog community lost a friend. Very sad to know he passed away alone. Was it this virus or just other illness? No need to answer if this is not something you want to talk about.
thanks for all of your posts on this + every other topic! 🙂

MAGA Mom

Cases in VA from 3/7 to today, 3/26, less than 20 days: 460 cases, 65 hospitalizations, 13 deaths
Clickable map to understand where it is and where it is spreading the fastest. naturally the higher numbers are in the higher population counties:
(http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/)
Note: case growth in less than 20 days. How many cases projected at the current rate of growth of new cases will be in the hospitals in another 20 days? And therein lies the seriousness and why we don’t compare *current* numbers of WuFlu with past year’s #s or even this year’s numbers of seasonal flu when have been spread over months.
See this link for a historical record of VA press releases including the first case on 3/7/20
(http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus/media-room/)
For Proper Comparison, Flu deaths in VA average 149 per year (for all 12 months) for 2015-19.
For the entire Month of January, 2020, VA reported 3 Flu deaths.
(http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/surveillance-and-investigation/virginia-reportable-disease-surveillance-data/virginia-monthly-morbidity-surveillance-report-2018/)
This report lists, on page 9., 218 Flu deaths in VA for 2018 and 1,270 deaths in VA that were flu & pneumonia.
(http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/HealthStats/documents/pdf/death_2-25_2018.pdf)
Also like Wuhan Virus, there are related deaths of Pneumonia and flu “associated deaths”
1,129 for the 2019-20 flu season so far…for the entire state of VA over the last 6 months.
Most years available at this link are ~3.5K for the entire year.
(http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/epidemiology/influenza-flu-in-virginia/influenza-surveillance/)
Most years, at Peak, the Flu accounts for 10% or less of VA doctor’s visits (not half)
For the Entire year of 2019, there were less than 6,000 confirmed cases (confirmed via testing) of flu in the state of VA
(http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/3/2019/07/2018-19-Seasonal-Report_7-8-19_Final.pdf)
This is the hard data from 1 state that shows the seriousness of WuFlu. When comparing WuFlu/China Virus/Covid 19 to the flu and then asking what the big deal is … we first have to know what the Hard/literal numbers are for the flu, how many hospitalizations/how many hospital beds are usually dedicated to these cases, and how long of a period over which these cases take place.
When we read WuFlu states, remember: Higher rate of hospitalizations, higher rate of ICU, Much faster spread and the numbers are happening all at once v. flu data which is a total of 12 months or, if this season’s flu, the numbers have been accumulating for 6 Months…not just the last 20 days. If we merely match 6 months of flu cases in 1 month with Wuhan … tremendous strain on the medical system. If we surpass…its serious!
To take today’s totals of Wuhan and compare to total flu for this seasons is apples to oranges because the time frame is so different + Wuhan is increasing rapidly while flu does not increase as rapidly & is actually decreasing at this time.
To take today’s totals of Wuhan is to Miss the point…the very near projections are point. To spread the talking points that all of these actions are unnecessary because the #s are Wuhan are lower than the flu is to spread misinformation, to demonstrate a misunderstanding of the situation and undermines President Trump and his leadership.
Same could be said for any state.

Gail Combs

BIG problem is Herd Immunity.
With the Flu most people have at least partial immunity and many are immune. That cuts down the number of people seriously ill as well as the number who transmit the disease.
With a BRAND NEW virus no Herd Immunity and everyone can get it and spread it so it is going to spread much much faster.
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MAGA Mom

herd immunity…some posts about reinfections in China…do you think they were “reinfections” or just relapse from not being all the way well? Seems like they had to be relapses or how would blood from a recovered patient help an ill patient get better if their own blood doesn’t even help them? Confusing to me and husband too busy to explain.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Another possibility, quite worrisome: two different strains.
Immunity from one strain might not help you with a different strain; depending on a lot of factors, of course.

MAGA Mom

And catching 1 shortly after the other before a complete recovery would also explain the deaths from “reinfection”. Ugh!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That’s been my theory of what’s been going on…a comparatively mild strain (or something different with similar symptoms) went around and hit everyone who has claimed to have been hit by COVID-19; now what’s going around is the “real” COVID-19 and is nastier.
Note that although many here claim to have had it ages ago, no testing was done, so we’re going on their description of symptoms to assign “blame” to COVID. But that’s fundamentally useless as a way of diagnosing. Otherwise, we wouldn’t NEED tests.

smiley2

keeps getting worse in Florida
2,355 confirmed cases …that’s up 370 since 6 pm yesterday…
28 deaths…
link…
https://www.clickorlando.com/news/local/2020/03/26/florida-now-surpasses-2000-coronavirus-cases/

GA/FL

Smiley – it’s not all that dire.
3/25/20 – PM – 23 deaths – 1977 cases – 343 hospitalizations
3/26/20 – AM – 28 deaths – 2355 cases – 377 hospitalizations
That is an increase of 378 positive test results due to more tests being run.
That is only 34 more people in the hospital state wide.
Georgia has more deaths and hospitalizations per case for some reason.
3/25/20 – PM – 47 deaths – 1387 cases – 438 hospitalizations
3/26/20 – AM – 48 deaths – 1525 cases – 473 hospitalizations

GA/FL

Here’s the page with AM/PM reports giving number of hospitalizations state wide.
Updates 11am/6pm – https://floridadisaster.org/covid19/covid-19-data-reports/
Georgia gives much less information, but they do list hospitalizations here:
Updates Noon/7pm – https://dph.georgia.gov/georgia-department-public-health-covid-19-daily-status-report

smiley2

I do actually live in south Florida….I do have my own sense of what’s “dire”….but the words I used in my post were “keeps getting worse”…and today’s confirmed cases (2,355) are, in fact, almost 400 more cases than we had since about this time yesterday…so, imo, that escalation is “worse”…I don’t need to compare your state with my state’s stats to comprehend the status quo here …and the status quo I’m concerned about here is the worsening of the spread in south Florida particulalry in my own county and the 2-3 others due east of me.

GA/FL

I pray the tide will turn ….and the # of new cases diminish.
I still don’t understand why GA has worse per case deaths and hospitalizations.

GA/FL

Smiley – you have good reason to be anxious…y’all are down there in the hot spots with more cases than any place in FL.
Up here, the only hot spots are Jacksonville and Gainesville.
I hope it slows down soon where you are!

smiley2

the other thing happening here in Florida is too many ppl from the OTHER HOTSPOTS in NY, NJ, Connecticut are pouring into Florida right, having been exposed up in their infested states, trying to avoid those shelter-in-place directives, and bringing their exposed selves into Florida…while also avoiding the mandatory 14 day self quaratine ordered by Gov DeSantis….plus…a LOT of the NY/NJ snowbirds who would have normallt started exiting Florida now are remaining here…it is VERY congested here in south Florida…ppl living practically on top of each other…plus all the Big Dev that’s just contributing to even MORE ppl here ! it’s madness…Miami & Broward are raging almost out of control with the spreading of this…and many many ppl here in Collier do business there…commutes…

GA/FL

Yikes! I have driven in Sarasota, Orlando and Ocala and the further south we got, the more angry aggressive drivers. It must be even worse with the virus situation.

MAGA Mom

When looking at FL, I like the site linked below.
Click on any county and see the # of travel related v. community spread – most counties it is now vast majority of cases community spread
Also, see age range. Sad that to a 2 yr old list in Santa Rosa County. 🙁 an baby in Broward. 🙁
3 yr old in Miami. 🙁 Hope these cases are mild and were only found because relatives tested positive v. the children having symptoms.
This also lists deaths and hospitalizations so you can see how the health care system is being loaded in your county. The number of hospitalizations in and of itself is not the full story – lower #s for smaller counties could still mean a problem as it just depends on how many hospital beds are available.
Smiley2 – The numbers of cases, hospitalizations and deaths will continue to grow. This is not a surprise to anyone in leadership. When FL was at less than 100 cases, when FL was at several hundred cases and all seemed to be only those who had traveled…President Trump, his admin, Florida leadership and the healthcare systems were completely tuning out those saying this was no big deal and were making important changes to lessen the impact & to cope with the coming onslaught.
It will get worse so don’t be surprised. This is expected. This is *why* President Trump and states have done what they have done. It was never about the initial few cases, the # of cases at the time they began their actions. It was and is about the numbers developing, the onslaught of coming cases v. a snap shot of current cases in a developing situation. Support our leadership and help slow the spread. Pray for rapid preparations, slow spread and effective treatments.
It will be ok and we will meet the challenge, over come it and come out stronger on the other side…just as President Trump says we will! There is much Good News re; therapies, US pulling together, etc. but if we fool ourselves about the reality of the situation then we will not be ready to deal with the reality of the growing situation. balance is needed.
Not saying you were caught by surprise but many on social media seemed to not take this seriously and are being surprised. Got to accept reality and then prepare to deal with it effectively.
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

GA/FL

There are definitely hot spots in FL.

smiley2

I’m not at all “caught by surprise”…and I don’t use social media…I’m well aware of what’s going on…I’m well aware of what’s happening…and I do know how to “accept reality”…and to prepare…what’s with the lecture ?

GA/FL

According to this, Florida has 55,727 staffed hospital beds as of 2018 – https://www.ahd.com/states/hospital_FL.html
There may be more now.

GA/FL

This says there are 70,047 hospital beds in FL – of course, some are dedicated to cancer patients…
http://www.fha.org/Reports-and-Resources/Facts-and-Stats.aspx

Gail Combs

Unfortunately not all are ICU beds so it will depend on whether they are convertible or we end up with open wards as they supposedly did in China.
In any case We are NOT going shopping except for more livestock feed. Call and order before hand. Have the exact $$ in an envelope taped to the back of the truck bed. They grab the envelope and toss the feed into the bed of the truck.
They know us so it should work out just fine. I am going to get the feed on a nice HOT SUNNY DAY and it stays out for 24 – 48 hours so the sun sanitizes the bags.

GA/FL

All those in the hospital won’t need respirators or ICU rooms.

MAGA Mom

these are not empty beds just waiting for WuFlu cases. WuFlu cases will be on top of all “normal”/usual illness and hospitalizations. WuFlu is in addition to normal case loads…which won’t disappear. To reduce “normal” load, they are stopping elective surgeries but that does not empty those beds. They will fill to the max unless quick medical breakthroughs

GA/FL

True – and all who are hospitalized won’t need ICU rooms.

MAGA Mom

Most who are hospitalized need respirators … that is the key complication of WuFlu that requires hospitalization.

MAGA Mom

FYI: healthcare systems Know that today’s actions are NOT to deal with *today’s* #s. They are anticipating the majority weeks from now but it will vary by location and there are locations already experiencing strain (Atlanta, NYC, LA). But they are forecasting the majority is yet to come for some weeks. They are anticipating significant workforce changes as they need “all hands on deck” due to both the significant increase in patient load And significant illness among their workforce.
Example: medical personal currently involved in management are expecting and expected to move to the clinical side of operations as Everyone is needed, esp. as we build toward the oncoming wave.
Pray for the flattening of the curve/slowing of the spread, the prep is done in a timely manner and that equipment and materials are made and delivered. Most of all, prayer for effective treatments that shorten hospital stays and prevent hospitalizations + save many lives and change the way we view the seriousness of the impact of oncoming cases.
this is not “fear mongering” … just the reality for which we must prepare and brace … why we must trust Trump and fight the media lies…not President Trump’s leadership and strong actions such as social distancing, etc.

MAGA Mom

What is the balance between caring for patients and self risk for medical professionals? What is the limit on their obligation to help when it puts themselves in danger?
This will become a legal question
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/us-hospitals-consider-do-not-resuscitate-laws-for-covid-19-all-patients/

GA/FL

This may be a little late for our early bird prepping and shopping group….
“Safe Grocery Shopping in COVID-19 Pandemic” – video by family physician – Jeffrey VanWingen MD

MAGA Mom

Still helpful as many of us must still go out to doctor, grocery for additional items eventually and even work.
thank you for this great post! Will share on social media.
Note: in the air – not just when someone sneezes or coughs in your direction…just hanging in the air. HUGELY contagious!

GA/FL

I’m not all that impressed having watched the first 5-6 minutes.
He’s got the facts, but uses the same wet wipe for multiple surfaces….If you watch it – you will see what I mean.

MAGA Mom

I watched and thought he has some good ideas and first time I have seen some of the recommendations outside of your posts and these blogs. Hopefully, help people think and understand how contagious

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Check out how the CHICOMS are trying to BACK OUT of their FAKE NUMBERS!!!

Alert: China says it is temporarily barring most foreigners from entering as it seeks to curb imported virus cases


March 26, 2020 Updated: March 26, 2020 2:23 p.m.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/medical/article/Alert-China-says-it-is-temporarily-barring-most-15158859.php

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Gail Combs

WOLFIE NEW INFORMATION!!!
“In this interview, the author of the US Biowarfare Act, Professor Francis Boyle, uncovers four separate studies which he claims confirm as ‘smoking gun’ evidence the Wuhan coronavirus, now known as COVID-19, was in fact weaponized.
Professor Boyle also discloses where he believes the true origin of the virus originated and the extent that the US government was involved.
This is a must-see interview as Professor Boyle also reveals never before disclosed information….”

https://johnbwellsnews.com/us-biowarfare-act-author-studies-confirm-coronavirus-weaponized/
It contains the LINKS TO ALL FIVE STUDIES! including the one from India that was withdrawn after the Commie pile-on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_TPjbu4FAE

Gail Combs

To add to that:
In October 2014, the Obama admin halted funding of new gain of function studies:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2014/10/17/doing-diligence-assess-risks-and-benefits-life-sciences-gain-function-research

…Because the deliberative process launching today will aim to address key questions about the risks and benefits of gain-of-function studies, during the period of deliberation, the U.S. Government will institute a pause on funding for any new studies that include certain gain-of-function experiments involving influenza, SARS, and MERS viruses. Specifically, the funding pause will apply to gain-of-function research projects that may be reasonably anticipated to confer attributes to influenza, MERS, or SARS viruses such that the virus would have enhanced pathogenicity and/or transmissibility in mammals via the respiratory route.

On January 9, 2017, the Obama Administration lifted the ban:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2017/01/09/recommended-policy-guidance-potential-pandemic-pathogen-care-and-oversight

…Today, the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP) is releasing “Recommended Policy Guidance for Departmental Development of Review Mechanisms for Potential Pandemic Pathogen Care and Oversight (P3CO). Adoption of these recommendations will satisfy the requirements for lifting the current moratorium on certain life sciences research that could enhance a pathogen’s virulence and/or transmissibility to produce a potential pandemic pathogen (an enhanced PPP).

WHY January 9th just before he left office???

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG – that is HUGE. OH WOW.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

They NEEDED gain of function to create a WORKING PSY-OP.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Is this what Trump called TREASON – or maybe “the unforgivable thing Obama did”?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That usually does not mean people who have connections in a Chinese airport can no longer do so. By “entering” they mean going through customs and stepping outside of the airport. But if you’re flying through Pudong Airport in Shanghai to get from LA to Jakarta or Bali…that’s not “entering.”
Unless the Chinese are using the word differently.

prognosticatasaurusrex

The guy that wrote the original farcdemic “projections, which SNOWED the WORLD, has NOW revised his forcast for the UK. Originally, he said OVER 500000 UK DEATHS, now he has “revised” his numbers to 29000. But WAIT, it gets BETTER….fully HALF of them, he states, were going to DIE BEFORE the end of the year REGARDLESS of Covid 19. Let me translate, those people who got this, ( I am starting to think they didn’t “get” it, they were GIVEN it) would have DIED ANYWAY because they ALREADY had another terminal disease of ailment.
Now, keep in mind TWO things, they did NOT yet list the REVISED US numbers (conveniently). We are a full TWO weeks and MUCH more restricted than the UK. Now, WHAT does that tell you about OUR over projected 1.9 MILLION deaths. That’s right, it is ALL bullshit….The deaths ARE real, ands so is the virus, but this IS as I have said, a BAD case of the flu, NOT the Spanish flu. They used our openness, and our inherent goodness and caring for each other, AGAINST us, fueled by BULLSHIT “scientists” and BIGGER BULLSHIT “projections” and fanned to a firestorm by a compliant propaganda MSM AND the radical left.
They used a REAL disease, one that I now more than EVER believe was a created event, SEEDED us while under the COVER of an impeachment. Conveniently downplayed the ORINAL warnings, origin of the disease, AND attacked Trump when he took BOLD decisive, action to STOP the the problem from being WORSE.
The problem was we were ALREADY seeded BEFORE the ban, we ALL got it, and now Oxford (another UK institution..HMMM) has done a study that CONFIRMS my suspicions, we were ALL seeded WAY earlier than we were told, and there were MANY more people who got it, didn’t know it, and SPREAD it far and wide. The Oxford study believes that the UK has already PEAKED, and they are TWO weeks behind us, What do you think that means HERE.
We were SNOWED folks. revisions to the LIES will not be good enough to me and all those that lost their livelihoods and had their freedoms infringed, and those that DIED or were very ill for their little op.
If ANYONE needed ANY reinforcing confirmation of this OP, after ALL the data that I, Daughn, Gail, GA/FL and YOU have posted, hear THIS. Hillary Clinton, the VILE one, is NOW ATTACKING Trumps efforts, AND calling for a NATIONWIDE shutdown for TWO MONTHS. Obama, the OTHER evil one, ALSO came out with the SAME thing and told Americans to simply stay home.
That, coupled with ALL else we know, tells me this is a FARCDEMIC. The Hillary and Obama comments SEALED it. It was ALL a REAL virus, put to a MASSIVE lie to give us to WILLINGLY give up our freedoms, and to CRASH the greatest economy the world has seen.
Now there WILL be some who say (Hi Steve, waiting for it LOL) that “Wait” how could we have been seeded earlier, look at NY and CA.” Answer, we were RESEEDED there in Feb. It would be EASY to do it with international ports and airports, LARGE immigrant populations, leftist Govs, mayors and local officials, AND sanctuary cities and those policies.
EASY to redo. Only problem, once this is done, and it LOOKS like NY IS moderating, they will have NOTHING. I suspect they WILL TRY to reseed once Trump reopens the country, probably starting Monday. BUT, that was why the chloroquine tests AND supplies were SO massive, and SO LARGE. They KNOW they will try to reseed as soon as the country reopens, to say Trump acted too soon, and that the 2nd wave is “worse” and it will ALL be Trump’s fault. You heard it from ME first.
One problem, the cure of chloroquine and z pak is prophylactic. That means it will be used to PREVENT new infections, by the MILLIONS. just like a vaccine, without the genetic and RFD monkeying around.
That coupled with those that have ALREADY been infected, and RECOVERED, and are now IMMUNE, will prove the END of the Cabal viral weapon. WATCH.
Oh, plus, the economy is going to explode WELL over 30000, the jobs will EXPLODE as critical supplies, will now be made HERE. Then there will be the PENT up demand for EVERYTHING, including vacations, leisure time, etc, as a MONTH of cabin fever combined with SPRING and NO sports, WILL lead to a BOOM.

Gail Combs

The only thing I worry about is a NEW VERSION that is WORSE.
Check out the problems with reinfection by a DIFFERENT strain of Dengue fever.
Antibody-Dependent Enhancement (This is minus the usual bafflegab)
This study shows t a similar problem for SARS type viruses HAS BEEN DOCUMENTED.
Evaluation of Antibody-Dependent Enhancement of SARS-CoV Infection in Rhesus Macaques Immunized with an Inactivated SARS-CoV Vaccine
It is also why a VACCINE if not done properly could help kill you.
“….the presence of specific antibodies can be beneficial for infection in case of some viruses including flaviviruses, CoVs, and retroviruses. Vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to SARS-CoV has been documented. One study showed that the antibody against SARS-CoV spikes protein potentiated infection of both monocytic and lymphoid cell lines, which do not express the virus receptor, and reported antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)-mediated vaccine-induced infection aggravation…”
WIKI — “Antibody-dependent enhancement occurs when non-neutralizing antiviral proteins facilitate virus entry into host cells, leading to increased infectivity in the cells.”

prognosticatasaurusrex

Brix JUST confirmed ALL my hypothesis, and you can tell by the MSM reaction, she JUST blew all to HELL the virus narrative, and its projections once and for ALL!!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

When did Gates BEGIN planning for his Coronavirus exercise? THAT will tell us A LOT.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Agreed. Did you just see Brix CONFIM my hypothesis, she blew the virus projection narrative to SMITHEREEENS, and the MSM are NOT happy about it….if LOOKS could kill.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The ChiCom Fake News is going to have a heck of a time attacking her. Her history is FILLED with concern for women victims, as well as being the one who blew the whistle on HIV moving into hetero women as the main threat over gay men. She’s damn near bulletproof.

prognosticatasaurusrex

LOL GOOD. That means Trump chose her BECAUSE she was qualified AND bulletproof. The PERFECT person to take point in BLOWING up the virus farce projections used to put the roof on fire.
Brix just put a BIG ol turd in their punchbowl, and it was OBVIOUS. I LOVED every minute of it, one because it confirmed my hypothesis, but even MORE that we are coming out of the woods. The ICING was the LOOKS she got. LOL Like they had bitten into a piece of bad meat…LOL
I think Trump, WISELY, defers to them, the MSM spent WEEKS building up Fauchi and Brix while they FIT their narrative, now they are CREDIBLE, VERY credible, who better to SHATTER a false narrative, BRILLIANT.
Plus I bet Trump watches from the next room, and LAUGHS his ass off!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Check this out! Check the DATES:
OBAMA moratorium on unethical virus research: October 17, 2014
OBAMA RESCINDS his own moratorium: January 9, 2017
Bill Gates “fires up” vaccine plans: January 18, 2017
Donald Trump becomes President: January 20, 2017
“Trump not supposed to be in office”: March 31, 2017
The latter was Bombard’s Body Language opinion on Susan Rice’s lies to MSM – she got the impression that Rice was surprised that Trump was still in office.
Seems to me they PANICKED when Trump was not eliminated by the Inauguration, and Obama reversed a prior position on virus research to enable THE HOAX as the final step if impeachment FAILED.
I smell an INTEGRATED PLAN to get rid of Trump.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Your nose KNOWS, and I believe you are correct. Was THIS the INSURANCE PLAN?

michaelh

0$#!+.
While the 4GW+Hybrid warfare model makes a lot of sense, it has nothing on straight up TREASON.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Why not BOTH? AND LOGIC!!!
Bill Gates’ culpability can have a broad RANGE of values. That’s why conspiracy theories which assert speculative specifics as facts always run into trouble.
China – Bill Gates – SOROS – WHO – UN – Obama – DNC – MSM – Bilderberg – they’re all in on this thing. COMPLEX MEDIA-LEVERAGED EVENTS involve lots of players banking on STAGED HISTORY to shape the future and put them ahead.
9/11 – Iraq invasion – Las Vegas – they’re all bogus in their own special ways. Just like this.

michaelh

Oh it’s definitely all of the above. They all coordinate a broad timeline. And POTUS has it all. Damn it feels good to be a gangsta. He’s known for a long time. Wow. Really, wow. History books.

coosmama

When did the Harvard Prof start working with Chi? And when did they break ground on Wuhan bio lab he helped build? Probably sometime just before then, would be a good guess.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Oh, yeah – there is a LONG history here. There was also another pandemic exercise which preceded Event 201 – I think it was called “Clade” something.

MAGA Mom

have relative in Southern Cal who could easily leave and telecommute from parent’s home in a much safer state. they are in LA and not a great area. young. thinks they are invincible. doesn’t seem to get that current conditions are not the worst it will be. Wish they would leave. They are already telecommuting from their current location so leave CA and go home! young and foolish. and liberal. worried for them. Wish relatives would listen. several others who are liberal and live in large metro leftist areas. Get out and go home to red USA where you are safer…but no, they stay. 🙁

Gail Combs

Unfortunately nature can be rather brutal when it comes to teaching lessons. That is why we had schools, books and history lessons. Now they no longer function so it is back to the brutal lessons from history.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

El Paso County (the county Colorado Springs is located) now up to 7 deaths (from 2 on Saturday).

Sadie Slays

Ground report. Took a long walk around the neighborhood in the nice weather. Despite the “shelter at home” order, there were a lot of people outdoors and more traffic than last week. Lots of children playing outside together. Did not see social distancing. Did not see law enforcement enforcing the stay at home order.
Grocery store: Fully stocked except for TP.

Deplorable Patriot

Same here. It’s so gorgeous, people are poluting the air with leaf blowers. The couch commando opened the windows…DP closed the windows after what amounted to an allergy attack.

Sadie Slays

The air quality here has been poor since this whole thing started and it doesn’t seem like normal pollen, either.

MAGA Mom

Sad to know so many are not doing their part to slow the growth and making all of us suffer.
Guess some people just won’t listen. Sad that the children are playing together, exchanging infections, getting it themselves and taking it home to their families.
If they would just stay home and slow the growth we could all begin to get back to “normal” or at least semi normal, sooner
discouraging ground report but thanks

Sadie Slays

When the politicians themselves don’t practice “social distancing,” then they’ve got no right to expect it from the rest of the public. Regardless, I don’t see this lasting past Easter as the weather continues to warm up. We’re already about halfway toward the public collectively telling the local politicians to take their “shelter at home” order and shove it.

MAGA Mom

And yet those same people not following the gov recommendations will whine and fuss when the local hospitals are not prepared to handle the oncoming case load and will expect the gov to provide help and rescue and cost the rest of the nation $ and more time off. Ugh!
We need to partner together and slow the spread to conquer this invisible enemy as President Trump has asked.
Irresponsible to let children play together like that for parent’s own children’s sake as well as their family’s sake.

MAGA Mom

Politicians (most) are working Hard to keep gov services working during this time of National Emergency. They are working together in person, despite the danger, to get their job done. It is not a privilege…it is their responsibility.
President Trump is not flaunting going to work with his team in our face – he is doing at a sacrifice, as are all of the politicians we see working hard for us every day…Despite the dangers.
We ought not act like children we are rebellious at being told to do something for our own good and wondering why the adults don’t have to do it. That makes us sound silly and immature, rebelling just because we don’t like being told what to do.
We need to Trust Trump, follow his guidelines and understand that just like parents and their teens, President Trump and our politicians may know things we don’t and may have good reasons to give the advice they are giving.
President Trump is walking a fine balance between fed gov overreach and state’s rights, gov leadership v. gov overbearance.
We need to pull together, realize the facts of what President Trump is dealing with and cooperate with President Trump for the good of our country and our neighbors. The sooner we follow President Trump’s leadership, the sooner the spread of this virus will slow and we can get back to normal or at least semi-normal. Trust Trump.

Sadie Slays

I trust President Trump.
I do not trust the local and state Democrats who cheat during elections, publicly hate President Trump, and insult their constituents every chance they get. They have plenty of motive to spread panic and tank the economy as much as possible before the election. The same Democrats claiming that we need to shut down eye and dental clinics across the state because of a “drastic shortage of medical supplies!” have curiously left the abortion clinics open. They are NOT “responsible,” and the only thing they are “working hard” at is taking away more our rights, destroying our local economy, and intentionally making life here miserable. So in response, I will continue to live my normal life as much as possible, visit the park I helped pay for with my tax dollars, and I hope every other person in my neighborhood joins in me in telling these lying, thieving, pieces of human garbage to take their un-Constitutional “stay at home” order and shove it straight up their rear. I’d rather be called “silly” and “immature” than surrender my rights and way of life in fear to these Democratic tyrants.

Sadie Slays

Sadie Slays

Right after I posted this, the local news reported that some parks in the area were forced to order more port-o-potties due to the surge in park traffic. Some parks were forced to re-open because people were ignoring the closed signs.

GA/FL

In the press briefing – President Trump is describing how many $$$ are in the ‘relief’ bill…..it sounds like a great opportunity for fraud….as are all social programs.
USN Hospital ship, Comfort will arrive in NY harbor on Monday.

michaelh

Aren’t they always?
Maybe this time it will be different . . . by which I mean prosecutions . . .

GA/FL

They did prosecute the Food Stamp scammers who committed multi-million $$$ scams – but did they get the money back?

GA/FL

And we have to feed the crooks in jail.

smiley2

well…another little Ground Report from Florida…Collier County (Naples)
just rec’d this Notice in my Inbox for tomorrow, and what might be coming our way…comment image
a mandatory stay-at-home “directive” and limits to only “essential” travel…knew this was coming…

GA/FL

I guess they are hoping to contain the disease.
Dade and Broward have skyrocketed. Do they have similar directives?

churchmouse

True.
That said, they are feisty individuals.

churchmouse

Forgot to add: have spent time in Broward on holiday. The older individuals I met were elderly in age, but not in spirit.

smiley2

Miami has…police and code enforcement will arrest and jail, and fine anyone who violates…plus curfews..
problem is, Gov DeSantis is being VERY CONSERVATIVE ab ordering the entire state to to go on drastic lockdown mode b/c he wants ppl in less hot areas to be able to continue to work…but he’s catching flak now mostly from Dems for being “wishywashy” and not going full-Draconian…so all of that is also adding to the tensions here…

GA/FL

PDJT and VP said they will have new guidelines for tailored by the situations in states/cities backed by the scientists recommendations ready by this weekend.

smiley2

BTW…check out New Orleans…!
ugh

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Dr Birx blasting fake news – Imperial College Model is wrong and US Hospitals requiring DNRs are outrageous, NY has over 1000 unused vents available

kea

I saw the headling and knew it was BS.

Deplorable Patriot

Today, she was really good. And based on her presentation, I looked at the STL City & County numbers here on the island between the Mississippi, Missouri and Meramec Rivers.
Population around 1.25 million. Cases: 230. That’s what, .2% of the population? Less than a quarter point.

Teagan

Heard her say that and made it very clear…yet even afterwards fake news was reporting otherwise. Grrr.

piper567

Teagan, on the plus side, I have seen > 4M people watched the Town Hall, and more people are watching briefings than watch Pravda (via Nielsens).

kea

My Mom said to me “they claim all these people are dying but how do we know its not the flu or natural causes ec.” In other words, we don’t trust some of these numbers.

Deplorable Patriot

Don’t.

smiley2

FYI…Banks and stay-at-home orders…
in case anyone might be wondering…as I was…how banks/lending institutions fit into the “essental business” category during this COVID situation and the stay-at-home directives in effect…here’s the scoop…
link…
https://www.sidley.com/en/insights/newsupdates/2020/03/application-of-stay-at-home-orders-to-financial-institutions

Linda

Ha ha ha! What a drama queen.
Update: Kathy Griffin Released From Hospital with Abdominal Infection, Still Blames Trump After Hospital Refuses to Test Her For Coronavirus
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/update-kathy-griffin-released-from-hospital-with-abdominal-infection-still-blames-trump-after-hospital-refuses-to-test-her-for-coronavirus/

kea

LOL It was TDS for sure!

bakocarl

TDS . . . Tummy Disorder Symptoms, run thru her TDS (I hate Trump) filter = Orange Man Bad!

Linda

We have now passed Italy and China’s fake numbers for the most Chinese Virus infections in the world.

bakocarl

We’re collecting them. It’s a trap!!!

GA/FL

Here are the FL – GA evening reports along with the last few days.
3/23/20
FL – 18 deaths – 1412 cases – 194 hospitalizations
GA – 32 deaths – 1026 cases – ? hospitalizations
3/24/20
FL – 20 deaths – 1467 cases – 253 hospitalizations
GA – 38 deaths – 1097 cases – 361 hospitalizations
3/25/20 – AM
FL – 22 deaths – 1682 cases – 289 hospitalizations
GA – 40 Deaths – 1247 cases – 394 hospitalizations
3/25/20 – PM
FL – 23 deaths – 1977 cases – 343 hospitalizations
GA – 47 deaths – 1387 cases – 438 hospitalizations
3/26/20 – AM
FL – 28 deaths – 2355 cases – 377 hospitalizations
GA – 48 deaths – 1525 cases – 473 hospitalizations
3/26/20 – PM
FL – 29 deaths – 2359 cases – 410 hospitalizations
GA – 56 deaths – 1643 cases – 590 hospitalizations
LINKS
FLORIDA – updates 11 am/6 pm – https://floridahealthcovid19.gov
GA – updates 12 noon/7 pm – https://dph.georgia.gov/georgia-department-public-health-covid-19-daily-status-report
Very strange – Albany, Dougherty County GA has 156 cases! Wondering if the Marine Base there is possibly being used as a cruise ship quarantine site….

kea

When you see a MSM headline that says Germany is doing a better job than the USA!!!
Those BS China and Iran numbers.

Linda

Germany’s numbers are really weird. 44,000 cases and only 267 deaths. But if you look at the rest of the EU, the death rate is MUCH higher.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s an anomaly that has the “experts” confounded.

bakocarl

Interesting. Do we have any insight into Germany’s drug protocols and other pertinent procedures?
Maybe they’ve been using HCQ, Z-Paks and zinc supplements since day 1.

singingsoul1

German medicine is more holistic. Germans are also super clean and airing out the house is a daily ritual.
I assume they are using HCQ,Z-Paks s that are available including tees and vitamins.

singingsoul1

Germany is also a small country.

Linda

So are France, Spain, and Italy, and their numbers are horrendous.

churchmouse

The demographics point to a much younger population. Even so …

kea

And they have all those migrants so I am side eyeing those numbers

MAGA Mom

Gail Combs – looking through my notes and the web site …. looking for your info on baking soda. Repost if convenient or tell me where to find and happy to look for myself. thanks

BB

Today one of the lead articles in the newspaper was about the FIRST person to die in the state supposedly from corona virus. Her name became known because of family/friends. Within the five days before she was hospitalized she attended a lodge meeting and worked at a part-time job where she had contact with the public. Neither of these places were contacted to alert them of her status by the state or local health department. Instead these places were notified by the family. If this happened with the first death you know there is absolutely no tracking of contacts.

bakocarl

Unfortunately, that level of lack of follow-up may be widespread.

churchmouse

There was a case in France around March 7 (positive test) whereby the woman below — a television producer in Paris — was instructed by her hospital (Pitie-Salpetriere, if I remember rightly) to tell her contacts from the Thursday and Friday concerned that she was infected and that they should self-isolate.
One of her two closest contacts came down with coronavirus, possibly because the two of them took a lengthy taxi ride together on one of those days.
Therefore, the hospital might not need to get in touch with the contacts personally, but the patient who tested positive does — or their family, in the case you cite.
Am posting the French tweets as proof of the story, since there are so many anonymous coronavirus sufferers out there. One has a stock photo, the other a live video from March 24.
She had mild symptoms, used a separate bathroom and had her children leave her meals on a tray outside her bedroom door:

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ladypenquin

This is a friend of mine on the ground in Ohio. 704 cases/10 deaths. I get 0.0142 % fatality rate. DeWine really has caused grief in Ohio.
@LadyImpactOhio
Replying to @NolteNCand @RealSaavedra @GovMikeDeWine
healthcare babe said 10 days ago 100,000 #ohioans would be dead by now. We have 704 cases and 10 deaths.

ladypenquin

Move my decimal. I believe that should be 1.4%.

MAGA Mom

that is not how the death rate is calculated. The majority of the 704 cases are not yet resolved to death/recovery. As of now, that is the percentage who have died out of the 704 cases but that is Not the “death rate”.
This has been explained ad nauseam and yet people are still doing it. I need to have more patience with my 13 yr old

ladypenquin

Ohio reported “10” deaths. It was the death percentage of the 704. I wasn’t projecting anything else. It does prove, as the people in Ohio see that the projections are not matching up to the reality. Frankly, half of what’s been said means we’d have piled corpses in the street by now – we don’t. I don’t need to take it any further than what LIO posted. Dealing with reality and facts in the moment. I think it’s a disservice to spend so much time in the projection – which is being proved right now. For some reason, this is important to you, but don’t be insulting to those who don’t agree. I don’t need you to be patient with me.
I’m in the field, I’m involved in health care in my area, and I know how much this serious public health issue is. I also know that there is a disconnect in the wildly touted numbers of mortality, and that the projection of desperateness as evidenced by the mostly blue state governors is a problem.
NYC has a problem – NYC has had a problem ever since they closed hospitals and cut back on supplies and staff for decades, worsening in recent years. The cries of shortages in NYC were there long before this event – the MSM will use this and blame the virus – it’s what they do.

GA/FL

So sorry to hear. Hope he does well.