20200828: MAGA Rally, Londonderry, New Hampshire

Author note: I dusted this off from the postponed rally in July. Please, let me know if there are obvious errors. I’ll fix ’em.

Riding the momentum of the finale of the Republican National Convention last night, our VSGPOTUSDJT will be heading back out on the campaign trail. He’ll do his part, and it’s up to us to do ours.

Okay, America, a repeat of this is the goal:

Oh, my gosh, were they wrong.

Well, with the exception of the absence of Chris Mathews…yeah, they’re setting themselves up for big time disappointment again using polls that just don’t match the empirical evidence in the size and enthusiasm of the crowds the president is drawing, as well as the ones Joe Biden is not.

Oh, well.

Tonight’s rally in Londonderry, New Hampshire at 6 pm eastern daylight time is sure to have vibes nothing like the mourning the mainstream media was experiencing in November of 2016 after the polls turned out to be wrong on a collosal scale.

Let’s make them wrong again, and starting in the state, one of the original thirteen, where the motto is “Live Free or Die.”

Looks perfectly idyllic doesn’t it?

I suspect that my one and only time in New Hampshire – during a marathon camping trip to New England while on an interstate between Glouchester, Mass., and Freeport, Maine, so that my mother could actually say she had been to L.L.Bean – we probably passed this town which looks to be a classic Americana kind of place with some colonial roots. From wiki:

Londonderry lies in an area that was first known as Nutfield because of the dense woods with nut trees. A petition for the town was submitted to the General Court of the Province of New Hampshire on September 23, 1719.[5] That petition stated that the petitioners had settled “at Nutfield about the Eleventh of Aprile last” – i.e. April 11, 1719. That petition requested “ten miles square” and stated that there were now about seventy families and inhabitants from both Ireland and New England. Many of the Scots-Irish settlers had left their homes in Londonderry in the Province of Ulster in the north of Ireland, and arrived in Boston in 1718 to start a new life without religious wars and persecution. On June 21, 1722, the town was chartered and given the name “Londonderry”.[6][7][8] The grant made by Samuel Shute, Governor of the Province of New Hampshire, was for a tract of land described as follows:

“Beginning on the North East Angle at a Beach Tree marked which is the south East angle of Chester and Running from thence due South on Kingstown Line four miles and an half and from thence on a West Line one mile and three Quarters and from thence South six miles and an half and from thence West north West nine miles and an half, and from thence North Eleven miles and an half from thence north north East Three miles from thence East South East one mile and from thence South South West to the South West Angle of Chester and from thence on an East Line Bounding on Chester Ten miles unto the Beach Tree first mentioned.”

And for those who have heard the word “Londonderry” before, but can’t place it, here’s some mood music.

Several sets of text have been put to this music, but, yes, it’s best known as “Danny Boy.”

I’ll add live links to this post during the late afternoon as they become available.

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In the meantime, please post tweets and videos below of what’s going on in New Hampshire, and any travel stories you may have of the place.

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GA/FL

🎵🎶Oh Donnie Boy…. 🎵🎶
Thanks for the rally thread, DP!
It’s always fun to follow the rally and speech with friends!

gil00

So ready for our own rally. Course this time, they better not lock out real attendees while actually providing security for those who do.

Deplorable Patriot
Deplorable Patriot

phoenixrising37

GA/FL

Do you think the remnants of Hurricane Laura may interfere and cause them to cancel the rally?
RADAR – US – https://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php

GA/FL

Maybe not – Here’s the forecast for Manchester, NH – https://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?lat=42.9912&lon=-71.4631#.X0ldfC2ZNL4

duchess01

🔴 Watch LIVE: President Trump Holds Campaign Event in Manchester-Londonderry, NH 8/28/20

Plain Jane

Oh my goodness. Ave Maria. And again Alleluia.

duchess01

Yes, Jane – They keep playing the songs he sang last night – glorious voice!!!

Plain Jane

I have to get his albums.

duchess01

Great listening, Jane – let us know you have found them – Thanks!!!

Plain Jane

Last nigh amazon only had one but out of stock. Figures.

duchess01

Not surprised – bet lots of people went looking and buying – it will replenish quickly – they will take advantage of the demand – I am sure!!!

JW in Germany

rayzorbak

Skeered?
DemonicRats = LIARS!

GA/FL

NH Rally livestream links:
WH Live – https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/ (no direct link yet)
CSPAN – https://www.c-span.org/video/?475119-1/president-trump-speaks-manchester-nh
GST –

RSBN –

OANN may also carry this event.

duchess01

Clicked on the C-Span Link – and it said the rally will begin @ 6:30 PM EDT –

duchess01

Now, C-Span has changed their rally time to 7:00 PM EDT ???

Deplorable Patriot

He was running late.

duchess01

Yes!!! Hope you have dinner well in hand!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Rice in the pot. Chicken breasts browning. Man, the T-something thousand breasts a freakish, and are going to take forever.

duchess01

You can handle it!!! Great multi-talker – you are!!!

Deplorable Patriot

AF1 on the ground!

duchess01

LOL – the people shown on the RSBN feed are holding signs – “PEACEFUL PROTEST” !!!

GA/FL

Love it!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Deplorable Patriot

The presidential seal is on the podium.

GA/FL

GST has gone live and it’s a beautiful afternoon in New Hampshire!

duchess01

FYI – The GST video is DARK – suggest you watch RSBN – Bright and Cheerful!!!

GA/FL

Wonder what happened to GST? I switched to RSBN.

duchess01

Dunno – but, the lighting is awful!!!

Deplorable Patriot

What I wouldn’t give for singers to actually know how to form an “oo”.
Ave Maria again? Hopefully both verses. You miss the prayer part when you leave off the second verse.
(I syllabicate it differently than this performance.)

Deplorable Patriot

Yep. One verse. Drives me insane.

Linda

Ha ha! I love those signs that say “Peaceful Protest.”

Deplorable Patriot

Okay, I have to get dinner started. will check back.

trumpismine

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Landing in New Hampshire!

trumpismine
GA/FL

duchess01

So cool – watching that plane land!!!

duchess01

Beautiful sight! President Trump has landed!!! AF1 parked!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Door open. The PIC has decreed.

Deplorable Patriot

House of the Rising Sun. Excellent.

Sylvia Avery

Tons of people there!

duchess01

Hey, Syl! How are you? How is Marica? Everybody okay?

Sylvia Avery

We’re all doing great! How are you???? So nice to have a rally again!

duchess01

Yes, it is – Exciting – watching the plane land – hearing the people cheer – WE ARE BAAACK!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Fake news gets boos. Love it.

Deplorable Patriot

Today it was announced Joe Biden is coming out of the basement.
Rapid swing of poll numbers.

Deplorable Patriot

Bring troops home from endless wars.

Sylvia Avery

Sleepy Joe is coming out in ten days………that’s like an eternity in Trumpville.

Deplorable Patriot

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

duchess01

LOL – Trumpville!!!

Sylvia Avery

That made me laugh, too! He’s so funny!

duchess01

He has a superb sense of humor!!! And – people make fun of the way he ‘TAWKS’!!!

Sylvia Avery

I think it’s charming…..!

duchess01

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS CHARMING!!!

Sylvia Avery

Yes, he sure is!

duchess01

Absotutalutely, Syl!!!

Cuppa Covfefe

Then he’ll see his shadow, go back, and the DEMONicRATS are out to la-la-land for another four years…..
BrownFog Day…..

Sylvia Avery

Xactly!

Deplorable Patriot

The Queens is really coming out in his allocution today.

duchess01

Sleep Joe Biden is coming out in 10 days – 10 days??? Awww…he should just stay there!!! LOL

Sylvia Avery

When the speech was over the thugs outside……..the Dim mayor of Washington DC she doesn’t do a good job, she doesn’t run anything………people walked out to a bunch of thugs……….

duchess01

We are not going to let that happen to people who go to the WH to celebrate our history!

Deplorable Patriot

Rand Paul’s protective shield…to get medals or something.
POTUS ain’t happy about how the mobs are behaving.
Mismanaged funds, too. “What are they going to waste money, uh, spend money on.”

Deplorable Patriot

Yang finally got up off the floor. It’s dinner time for him, and he probably needs to go out. I’ll be back.

pgroup

You named your pet after a failed democrat presidential candidate?
I’m shocked.
🙂

Deplorable Patriot

That’s not his real name. I call them Ying & Yang on public forums. Their real names…not going to publish them, but one came with the name and the other is named for a cartoon character who smells. And they really are one white with black markings and the other black with white markings and having the same parents from two different litters.

duchess01

That dumb reporter saying ‘this is a peaceful protest’ and behind him the entire city is on fire!!!

Sylvia Avery

We’re going to have a great third quarter and an unbelievable next year……..unless someone stupid gets elected.

Sylvia Avery

Joe Biden is the puppet of the radical left movement.

Sylvia Avery

Ya not going to have low income housing built in ya suburbs anymore!

Sylvia Avery

Protesters………..your ass!🤣🤣🤣

phoenixrising37

President Trump is in warrior mode…

duchess01

LOL – Protesters Your A$$ – Protesters My A$$!!! They don’t even know who George Floyd is – these are bad people – marauding through our cities wreaking havoc!
You cannot go to church – but, you can go and protest!

Sylvia Avery

The churches are closed, but you can have thousands of people marauding through the streets…

Sylvia Avery

I will have lost to a low IQ individual. Sleepy Joe.

Deplorable Patriot

Wow. Double teaming.

duchess01

I would have lost to a low IQ person – I don’t want it!!!

Sylvia Avery

We are all that stands between the American people and the left wing mob.

GA/FL

“I believe I have the honor of running against the worst candidate ever put up…”

Sylvia Avery

I know people in their 90s that are 100 percent sharp and good physically too……..

duchess01

Seems to me – President Trump is miffed about last night – and the treatment the people leaving the convention received from some very nasty and dangerous ‘protesters’ – talked about Rand Paul and his wife – and the police officers who were trying to protect them – afraid to get too rough – do not want to lose their jobs and pensions.

Sylvia Avery

Yes, and I read somewhere that the SS wanted to provide a safe passageway for the guests but Wash DC refused to allow them to do so.

duchess01

Grrrrr…DHS, too – I heard! Shame on them!!!

Deplorable Patriot

Oh, that’s nasty.

phoenixrising37

Ya picked up on that, did you Duchess? 😉 /s
Our warrior is rip-roaring mad… as we ALL should be.

Deplorable Patriot

Maybe the hiatus was good for him. He’s not tired at all.

duchess01

Yup – the riotous group attacked his friends – not good – I am surprised he did not call out the NG – emergency powers or something – gosh I want to slap that mayor silly – but, I cannot – cause I would be repenting for years!!!

kalbokalbs

Rightfully miffed. Along with all good Americans. Miffed over the same nonsense playing out in numerous D-rat cities.
Looking forward to 4 November. President Trump will take the gloves off and straighten out the D-rat cities.

duchess01

Yes, he will, Kal! Look out – they will not see it coming – and quickly!!!

duchess01

Getting dark – one would think they would have had flood lights!!!

Sylvia Avery

Corey Lewandowski gets recognized!

Deplorable Patriot

Joe Biden’s agenda is made in Chy-na. My agenda is made in America.

Deplorable Patriot

Chris Wallace gets boos. Excellent.

Deplorable Patriot

Chris always wanted to be his father, but he can’t for lack of talent.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

phoenixrising37

and lack of integrity…
Chris was estranged from his father… I often wondered why, until the first time I heard Chris on TV…

kalbokalbs

Have read Mike Wallace disapproved of Chrissy working for Faux News.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

I call him Prissy Wallace.

phoenixrising37

Seems to suit him Butterfly… I’ll try to remember to call him Prissy… 😉

rayzorbak

Prissy Wall ASS!

duchess01

That would be a great quote for a Campaign Ad – Biden’s Agenda is Made in China – Mine is Made in America!!!

Deplorable Patriot

I smell a meme. FG&C, please come over here for a bit.

duchess01

Oh, me, 2, DP! Hope he picks up on it!

Deplorable Patriot

I’ll cross post. 😎

duchess01

Good – glad you know how to do that!!!

Sylvia Avery

Yes it would!

Deplorable Patriot

Mexico IS paying for the wall. Just in case people don’t this.

duchess01

They never did understand ‘Mexico is paying for the wall’ – SMH – Numbnuts!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

He let it slip a few weeks ago that if Mexico didn’t provide the 27,000 soldiers, we would be tariffing the heck out of em. Nice Deal Mr. President!!

duchess01

Yes!!! I remember that, Butterfly!!! LOVE IT!!!

phoenixrising37

Glad to see you Ms Butterfly!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

U2 PR. Didn’t realize rally was so early, barely made it.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Peace in the Middle East!

Sylvia Avery

Joe Biden has spent his life on the wrong side of history!

Deplorable Patriot

LOVED IT!

phoenixrising37

Thanks for comin’ over Sweet Lady… we miss you, esp at Rally time… 😉

Sylvia Avery

I LOVE rallying here with you guys!!!!! (and so glad to see you PR!!!!) ❤❤❤❤❤

phoenixrising37

Love you to gal…

Sylvia Avery

🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗😘

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Cleaning up 47 yrs of Biden Disasters

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THERE’S THAT NUMBER AGAIN

ladypenquin

What does that mean?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

’47 was a pivotal year after WWII. One of the biggest events was the formation of the CIA. There have been a few other “47s”in the news lately, but I forgot what, exactly.

duchess01

Oh, he has not mentioned the ‘Korea Deal’ in a long time – oh, the agony of creating jobs overseas!!!
He has not changed his complaints for many years – still complains about the same things – but, now – he can fix it!

duchess01

Another good meme – Good Luck with that – Texas – No guns, No oil, and No religion!!!

duchess01

Oopsey – No Guns, No Oil AND No God!!!

Deplorable Patriot

He’s running against a man against guns, God and oil. This is why POTUS is going to win Texas.
True story.

Deplorable Patriot

Arroz con pollo about ready to come out of the oven. Will be back.

duchess01

YUM – firing up the CESSNA – save some for Pat and me – Mkay?

Deplorable Patriot

Uhh…with my dad and brother in the house, you’re on your own. 😉
I do it a little differently, and the rice is nice and greasy….

duchess01

Cannot compete with those two – did you put some aside for yourself, DP?

Deplorable Patriot

Just called Dad down. Couch Commando is still at work. I’ll get some between them.
Secret to the rice: Tumeric.

duchess01

Good idea, DP – will try it – Thanks!!!

Plain Jane

Thanks DP . Made Mexican rice for tomorrows tamale pie, and the rice needs a punch.. Turmeric it is.

Deplorable Patriot

It will turn the rice yellow, but it’s really good for you. And for color more effective than Saffron.

Plain Jane

I just bought some hot shot Turmeric online from Simply Organics, have it on the counter yet, and forgot all about putting it in my concoction until I saw your post. Many thanks.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Used to put turmeric in my juice. Now I take it 3/day.

Gail Combs

I always add Tumeric, & Herbox no sodium bouillon. Chicken for chicken dishes and beef for beef or pork dishes.
I will also add thyme, rosemary, sage, and garlic depending.

Sylvia Avery

Sounds good!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

RUSH-AH😁

duchess01

You making fun of Our President, Butterfly? – he cannot hep how he tawks!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

😊😊😊

duchess01

You forgived, Butterfly – it is who he is!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

He funny Duchess😁 Did ya catch him last night when he talked about Creepy Joe sniffing people?? He has perfect comedic timing, had the whole place laughing😂😂

duchess01

No, I missed that – thanks for the recap, BFLY!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

BWAHAHAHAHA

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Where’s Hunter??
In another country ripping them off probably.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!! Oh, that’s a good one!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Sleepy being interviewed by Anderson Cooper, looking down at the answers.
Gets the easy questions, How was you’re breakfast?

phoenixrising37

Surprised Anderson didn’t offer Joe a sippy cup…

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

😂

Sylvia Avery

*laughing*

duchess01

Hahahaha! When are you two going on the road?

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

I had twitter laughing last nite.
In response to one of Joe’s tweets, I replied …. That’s Joe’s team, Sleepy crashed in the basement 6hrs ago. IT WAS TRUE!!!

duchess01

LOL – You are the greatest!!! Good for you!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Someone commented …. after he had his milk and cookies 😁

duchess01

Hahahaha! Good One!!!

geneticallycatholic

They will give Diamond and Silk a run for their money!

duchess01

Most definitely, catholic! * giggling *

kalbokalbs

Good to hear D-Rats (Cuomo) blocking a pipeline in NY to move oil to states further east and north.
One would think, New Yorkers would want a pipeline to get oil at a better price in NY. Of course, I guess, NYC is the real obstacle to the pipeline.

duchess01

NYC is a real obstacle to the entire nation – a total embarrassment – one of the greatest cities in the world!!!
Shame on DeBozo!!! Both President Trump and Rudy Giuliano are more that miffed about that!!!

zorrorides

I remember a giant oil refinery complex on the New Jersey coast amid all the other port/ shipping facilities. Think about it – the massive industrial force of NY-NJ has been getting its fuel on the eastern side by ship. I think New York (south) figures they’ve already got all their fuel needs met.
Why should we let a pipeline go thru west-central-north NY state for the benefit of upstate and New England?
Whenever we think, “Nothing bad’s gonna happen”, a learning opportunity is on the way.

duchess01

I agree, zorro – they think they do not need the pipeline – already have their needs met – foolish – what happens when the ships do not sail?

Sylvia Avery

Harris……she’s a beauty. Isn’t she a beauty?
BWAHAHAHA!

duchess01

Well – that was quick – he ripped her to shreds and left the pieces for Sleepy to pick up!!!
Crazy Bernie’s supporters like my trade policies – wow – this is going to embarrass those Dims to no end!!!

Sylvia Avery

And this would be your president possibly? I don’t think so.
I want to see a woman president too, but not getting in there the way she did and she’s not competent.
They’re all saying We Want Ivanka.
I don’t blame them….

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

They want to raise taxes by 4TRILLION dollars.
There’s an article on Fox where they want to change the taxes on 401K accounts, which will tax everyone under $400K. That will not end well. We cannot let the Dems win!!!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

We gonna be…
Manufacturing Super Power of the World!!!
No more AssHoes!

GA/FL

He just stated his Law and Order platform/agenda!

duchess01

President Trump is on the warpath!!! He is definitely fired up!!! What I love about him most!!! His moxie!!!

Teagan

He’s in the NE where they understand the humor, accent and brashness.. He’s very comfortable there and it shows. Notice all the winks and grins he was giving the NH politicians!

duchess01

True – good point, Tea!!!

GA/FL
🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

2, 3, 4, maybe even 5 more Supremes!!!

Sylvia Avery

That would be THE BEST.
I’d feel like I could die happy…….

Teagan

Yes, that was quite a statement…bet those Supremes are quaking in their shoes! LOL

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Right to Keep and Bear Arms
2A!!!!!

duchess01

Uh, oh – He SAID IT – maybe, FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES!!! The firefighter’s prophecy!!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Price Transparency….Bring it on!!!
Goes into effect Jan 1, you better elect me so I get credit for it!! 😂😂

He has been lowering drug prices all along. I’ve been feeling it and Thanking him every time. They’re fixing to drop way down. Lady last night said her insulin went from $900 t0 $100. I’ve gone from about $600 to $200/month in 3yrs. I love him!!❤❤❤

duchess01

Oh, the contrast is so stark – The Trump Tapestry and the Democrat Demolition!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

LIVE FREE OR DIE!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Weird (NOT) – anti-American Kommie Information Services Making Extra Trouble (AKISMET) didn’t like this post! 😉

Sylvia Avery

We are not going to let the radical left or socialists or communists take our country. We’re not going to let them!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

We will not let radical socialists or communists take our country!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

One nation under God!!

duchess01

He said that especially for Wolf – We are not going to let the Radical Leftist Socialist Communists take over our country!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

WOO-HOO!!! <3

duchess01

* Smiling * I am thrilled he said it!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Not gonna let our country be destroyed by a bunch of Nut Jobs!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

*SCREAMING LAUGHTER* <3 <3 <3

Sylvia Avery

We’re not going to let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nut jobs!
(I find that oddly comforting! My President!)

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

Most definitely Miss Sylvia!!

duchess01

We are not going to let our country be destroyed by a bunch of nutjobs!!!

GA/FL

Great line! Hope he keeps using it!

duchess01

Me, too – he is definitely on the warpath!!!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

2 in da ba bin
L-I-V-E F-R-E-E O-R D-I-E!!!

GA/FL

He’s winding it down….Thanking New Hampshire…
“Together, we will make America wealthy again,
We will make America strong again
We will make America proud again
We will make America safe again
And we will make America great again!!!
Great Rally, Mr. President! Thank you!

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

We will Make America Proud, Wealthy, Safe, Great AGAIN!!

Deplorable Patriot

So, my dad just walked up the steps, but before he did, he said his dad liked to listen to conventions and political speeches. My dad’s dad died over ten years before I was born, bit as the bits and pieces come out about him, he was one heck of a guy.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

3 comments in da bin….only free 1 please

Deplorable Patriot

Hang on.

Deplorable Patriot

I saw two.

🦋🤸‍♀️🦋bflyjesusgrl🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

TY!.. Wonder why WP doesn’t like that. Certainly a MUST!!

gil00

Lolol!
Certainly the most imcompetent in my lifetime Joe is.

Deplorable Patriot

Unless I miss my guess without giving too much away, I’m a bit older than you are, and Joe even surpasses Jimmah Carter. And I was a kid, but I remember him being an idiot.