DEAR KAG: 20201225

A very Merry Christmas to everyone at the Qtree and beyond, especially our military members who are now deployed. A special greeting to our President Trump and First Lady. God bless and keep you.

And also, Merry Christmas to the true patriots who are fighting for our republic: Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Peter Navarro, Jenna Ellis, Gen. Flynn, all the podcasters, bloggers, and citizens who are standing strong against our foreign and domestic enemies.

December 25 is the first day of the Twelve Days of Christmas. The Christmas season culminates on Epiphany, January 6. Traditionally, that is the day the Magi arrived to give the Infant Jesus their precious gifts and acknowledge Him as King of the Jews. It is also considered a manifestation of Light, of divinity, of knowledge.

Epiphany 2021 is going to be wild, according to President Trump, because that is the day Americans are gathering to support his re-election and stand as witnesses to his triumph in front of Congress.

Before we get to Congress (that’s a dirty word nowadays, eh?) let us enjoy a favorite Christmas drink: Eggnog. The real kind. The kind with rum, topped with a tiny pinch of nutmeg. Just choose your favorite Eggnog (the Southern kind for me), add your favorite rum, and enjoy!

Before we get too deep into the partying, just a reminder that civility is what keeps the Qtree a place of sanctuary and intellectual inspiration. Cutting loose belongs over at the UTree, not here at the QTree. Civility reigns. Rules here if you need a refresher or are new. God bless and keep us civil this day!

Midst our feasting and festivities, remember we are in a war for truth. May God grant us a great victory in 2021 so that our next Christmas season can be celebrated in peace and merriment.

Enjoy this 8-minute podcast about a 1776 password: Victory or death.

The American Story Podcast.

As Gen. Douglas MacArthur said: “It is fatal to enter a war without the will to win it.” General Washington knew that. We know that.

The beauty of the Christian faith is that one can experience the deepest calm in the midst of chaos. I pray we all feel the “peace that passes all understanding” during this Christmas season.

Now to that disgusting, dirty, contemptible Congress.

 “I am concerned for the security of our great Nation; not so much because of any threat from without, but because of the insidious forces working from within.” Douglas MacArthur

Here we have an Obama/Biden appointee who worked for CCP policies to be implemented:

“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”
Mark Twain

It is obvious now, that our enemies are feeling the truth closing in on them. The threats and unhinged hatred is bleeding out:

[Screen capture added by the editor to explain context of deleted tweet.]

From the article:

General Colin Powell’s Chief of Staff, Col. Wilkerson, is now urging the U.S. military to recall Michael Flynn and put him on military trial for sedition. It’s the latest reminder that Donald Trump’s pardons aren’t magic wands, and the legal pushback against Trump and his co-conspirators is just beginning.

https://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/general-colin-powell-drops-the-hammer-on-michael-flynn/35002/

[The following return volley from Fort Flynn caused the shameful #NeverTrump tweet to be deleted. Bravo! –Wolf]

https://twitter.com/JosephJFlynn1/status/1342107746666209286

But, as we well know, everyday Americans are rising up:

The Chinese Communist Party is breathing fire and attacking Secretary Pompeo. Huffing and puffing they are now realizing that their plans, however clever, however well thought out, are backfiring. Here’s a little “holiday” music for them:

“There are not enough Chinamen in the world to stop a fully armed Marine regiment from going wherever they want to go.” – Chesty Puller

Amen, Gen. Puller!

One last thought. I’ve been struggling a bit with the fog of war. So many lies from our enemies…and the patriots. So often we are being manipulated. It hurts a little. But I found this quote from Winston Churchill, and it made me feel so much better. Love you all!

“In wartime, truth is so precious that she should always be attended by a bodyguard of lies.” — Winston Churchill

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bakocarl

The Giving

Our small house was dark, inside it was cold
Our wood floors were bare, the furnishings old
Mom was at work, her second job today
She works very hard for very little pay

I cut a small tree from back in the wood
But it looked lost in the space where it stood
We had no tinsel, ornaments, or lights –
I had to do something; this wasn’t right

I pedaled down to Don at the Church Thrift
If he’d take my bike, I’d get lights and a gift
Don looked at my bike and said to me “Son,
Your bike’s old, but I’ll see what can be done.”

“Pick out a few things, now don’t be afraid
If it’s not too much, maybe we can trade.”
I got some old lights and some other stuff
It wasn’t much, but it would be enough

When Mom got home it was very late
I heated some soup and then we both ate
I showed her my tree, all sparkly and bright
It looked beautiful, there on that dark night

I gave her a pin I got in my trade
And also a card that I had made
She gave me a hug and had a small smile
Then looked kind of sad and cried for a while

The next morning, it was on Christmas Day
It had snowed all night; it was dark and gray
I went outside to shovel the snow
When I saw a mound in the path below

There, under the snow, that dark, gray morn
Was a big box with a note from Don
A brand new bike was waiting inside
All red and shiny just for me to ride

Don’s note read:

“Those things for your Mom were a blessing to me
Because now I can give to you, you see
Christmas is special because of the giving
One thing in life that makes it worth living

As Christ gave His life and died for others
We now celebrate with gifts to our brothers
With all of our gifts we give praise to Him
For His gift to us forgave all our sin.”

I looked at Mom. She’d read the note, too
She smiled and said “Yes, this is true
I work very hard, but we’re still poor
I felt sad, because we don’t have more”

“But Christ’s gift makes us rich, for sure
And, in Him, we’re safe and secure.”
Don’s note has made me see, at last
To look at our future, not at our past.

Mom held my hand and then she prayed
Thanking God for the gift that He gave
Thanking Him for meeting all our needs
Thanking Him that we’re very rich, indeed

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen. 🎄

Marica

Amen sweet Carl!! Thank you for blessing us today!!!!💖😘🥰

kinthenorthwest

Bak Very beautiful- OK wiping away some tears..
Thank for such a beautiful poem.
In fact I have enjoyed all your poems this week!!
Thank you for the excellent job, 

Chris

Merry Christmas Kin !

kinthenorthwest

Merry Christmas…My the peace and love of CHRISTmas shine forth from you all year round!
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gil00

Merry Christmas to you.

Sylvia Avery

Oh carl. I’m all choked up. That was lovely.

wheatietoo

Thank you, Carl.
That was absolutely beautiful!
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JW in Germany

That is beautiful! Merry Christmas Carl!

duchess01

Beautiful Christmas Present, Carl!!! We thank God for your many poetic contributions!!!

God Bless You Real Good – cause Amen Goes Right There!!!

Aubergine

Blessings to you on this Christmas Day, Carl. You are a treasure.

bakocarl

Merry Christmas to Wolf & the Wolfpack!

Thought I’d clean this up . . . and use it . . .
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kalbokalbs

Merry Christmas. 🙂

Be safe out there folks!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

MC K-BO!!🎄🎄🎄

Chris

Merry Christmas bfly !

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Merry Christmas Chris!!🎄😍🎄

Chris

Merry Christmas Kalbokalbs !

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Merry Christmas, Carl! This was an absolutely unique Christmas Eve for me, and I really appreciate that image. Normally I get to be “me” on Christmas Eve, but this year, I was mostly “Wolf Moon” – both online and in real life. 2020. Yup!

bakocarl

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

I LOVE THIS!! ^^^^

Sylvia Avery

Merry Christmas, Wolfie. Thank you again for giving us this place to be. It’s wonderful. May God bless you richly in this coming year.

Chris

Merry Christmas Sylvia !

yamabudo

Thank you. Thank you so so much for all you do, Sir Wolfmoon. So very grateful for this site.

Chris

Merry Christmas yambudo !

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And thank you for being here! Merry Christmas! 😀

Chris

Merry Christmas Wolf Moon !

ForGodandCountry

Brother Carl!

Thank you, so much, for a year’s worth of EXCELLENT Sunday threads. Never let yourself underestimate their importance and impact. I am grateful.

Best Christmas wishes to you, sir.

bakocarl

My pleasure . . . and I look to grow from them as I make them!!!

Chris

Merry Christmas F G&C !

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Merry Christmas Carl!! Thank you for all the Blessings you bestow on the TreeHouse!❤❤❤

wheatietoo

Merry Christmas to you too, Carl!
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Chris

Merry Christmas Wheatie !

wheatietoo

Thank you, Chris.
Merry Christmas to you as well!
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Chris

Merry Christmas Carl !

smiley2

speaking of China…

who here remembers Kissinger’s secret trip to Beijing in 1971…

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Marco

Polo

rayzorback

we were all thinking how lovely and hopeful it was”
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That just goes to show how POWERFUL the “Media” can be.

suzyqster58

The discovering has been painful for me .I thought I was awake only to find out I was light years from being awake. The world took a dark turn didn’t it.

Chris

Merry Christmas Grandmaintexas !

cthulhu

Sheesh. The picture shows Kissinger as a clueless nebbish being led by the chopstick into foolish decisions.

pgroup2

How hard would it have been for him to have some Chinese person teach him how to use chopsticks BEFORE he went there?

cthulhu

We don’t know how well Kissinger was handling chopsticks by that point. He might have been fine.

The person he was with (presumably the Foreign Minister of China at the time) is wielding a set of chopsticks that is much larger than those used for feeding oneself. These are typically used for cooking in a wok (along with the “wok shovel”) and for serving from communal dishes to individual plates.

Dr. K’s childish delight at having something put in his plate by a serious-looking officer would most likely be seen in China as having his being “spoon-fed” during the negotiation.

For propaganda purposes, this is a very damning picture.

pgroup2

Chopsticks come in sizes? Who knew? (other than Chinamen)

cthulhu

If you’re serving yourself from communal plates, you’re expected to reverse the sticks to use the end that hasn’t been in your mouth.

But, yes, chopsticks are very versatile.

Teagan

Probably the most used utensil in a Japanese kitchen, to my surprise. I enjoyed watching them use chopsticks in so many ways…amazing what you can do with a couple of sticks!

Aubergine

It’s interesting to think about, isn’t it. The different ways cultures “see” the same thing.

I marvel at the evil of the CCP, their scheming and long-term planning, how they set generational goals of domination and just keep coming.

Americans are just now waking up, just a little, to what is going on, but even now many just keep bleating “Russia, Russia, Russia.”

At least Vlad Putin understands that one’s own country comes first, but you don’t have to take over the world for that to be true. A friend said to me yesterday “Putin wants a seat at the table, Xi wants to sit at the HEAD of the table.” She was 100% correct in my opinion.

Gail Combs

I still think the Fake News paints Putin with a lot blacker brush than he deserves. No doubt to keep us from looking to closely at CHYNA.

Aubergine

I agree!

rayzorback

Naw…. it’s the China man stealing his food.

anonymoushorse

Thank God for chopsticks. If it weren’t for chopsticks I wouldn’t be able to play the piano at all.

Chris

Merry Christmas Smiley !

smiley2

thank you, Chris..

and Merry Christmas to you, too ! 💞

ForGodandCountry

Hab a jorry, jorry Christmas!! 🎄

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ForGodandCountry

😂

Yes. Ret your rove frow!

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rayzorback

Dey wont to know……
Wat habbened on erection dey

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Even at Christmas, Chyna is still ASSHOE!😉

cthulhu

Reminds me of an incident during my brief time in Hong Kong (on business). Surrounded by Chinese people speaking Cantonese with Chinese signs all over the place, I stagger my way into a bank to get some cash. I stand in line briefly, and walk up to the teller who is very primly dressed in a way you no longer see in the US and very evidently Chinese. I stammered out a simplified version of what I was hoping to accomplish.

And she replied in exquisite professional-class English.

Mind you, I lived (and still live now) in Silicon Valley. People become technical in their own lands, get a couple years of intensive English, and get shipped-off here to live in a shoebox and support their families back home. And this is true whether they’re from India, Bosnia, Russia, China, or Chile (and those are the legal ones). As a result, you hear a wide variety of accents in grocery stores, talking to people, or on the job.

But this young lady spoke as someone steeped in the education and culture of the British Empire. She had likely been taking English courses for at least ten years and probably spoke better English than I did. [Did old VW’s have the boot in the bonnet?] I don’t know if English people in England learn to speak that well these days.

It was jarring, and I probably looked somewhat gobsmacked, but I immediately upshifted my discussion into one discussing an accounting matter. I wanted to say something nice about having a lifeline after hours of confusing chaos outside the doors of the bank, but wisely said nothing about it. [“How nice to hear something familiar that I can understand.” “Would you prefer that I bark like a dog?”]

But it’s little things like those moments that make me terribly, terribly sad for the people of Hong Kong and the dark shadow that has passed over them this year. There won’t be the sort of schools and banks and opportunities that made that young teller possible because of all the slogans pledging loyalty to the party and rejecting bourgeois conceits like precision and clarity — much less reactionary languages like English.

GA/FL

Likewise, the Dell representatives in India spoke lovely British accented English the many times I had to speak with them throughout owning several Dell laptops (no more PCs for me!)

The 4-5 Philippino representatives of Centurylink phone and internet company with whom I spoke during the recent outage, had heavily to moderately accented, but understandable English.

gil00

Kiddo watched it 2x this year…laughed harder the 2nd time. I saw that in the theater when it came out. First time I ever heard a theater roar.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s smiling at me.

gil00

You know I bought chinee for dinner yesterday, leftovers today..

Gail Combs

Home made Stir Fry for us today. We had T-bone stakes yesterday.

gil00

I cut up a 2.5 lb roast to make stew for mr gil. Making it in crock pot, added 1 cup merlot plus sauce to it. Then veggies in a couple hrs. Thatll do for today.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thank you for persisting! You know what’s very cool? As we sat here tonight, working on this post which ends in a Churchill quote, on the recently cleared area in front of me, is one thing – a paperweight that says “NEVER NEVER NEVER QUIT” and in smaller letters “WINSTON CHURCHILL”. My mother gave it to me.

Greatest Generation. They STILL inspire us!

ForGodandCountry

For years I have tried to find, online and without success, a letter written by a US soldier, about to embark upon the invasion of Normandy, to his parents back home.

It was exquisite.

In it, he reminisced about how they had given him the very best of everything in life, in the very best country on earth. How he had lacked for nothing, and how it had shaped him into an American man.

He told them that, no matter what happened to him, having the opportunity to take all he had become and use it to fight the greatest evil to manifest on earth was his ultimate privilege and honor…that there was no place he would rather be and no foe he would rather face. He told them if he died they should not be sad, but instead fiercely proud and glad, for through him they had helped fight the evil….that he would see them soon enough in heaven, that all life is fleeting but God’s promise is eternal.

I would pay DEARLY for a copy of that letter. It was truly extraordinary.

ForGodandCountry

No, he was killed. But, if I recall correctly, he won the Silver Star posthumously, which is entirely unsurprising to anyone who read his last letter home.

TheseTruths

This letter expresses some of the same sentiments. This site has several letters from D-day.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/may/28/secondworldwar.features111

2nd Lt Jack Lundberg 

May 19

Dear Mom, Pop and family, 

Now that I am actually here I see that the chances of my returning to all of you are quite slim, therefore I want to write this letter now while I am yet able. 

I want you to know how much I love each of you. You mean everything to me and it is the realisation of your love that gives me the courage to continue. Mom and Pop – we have caused you innumerable hardships and sacrifices – sacrifices which you both made readily and gladly that we might get more from life. 

I have always determined to show my appreciation to you by enabling you both to have more of the pleasures of life – but this war has prevented my doing so for the past three years. If you receive this letter I shall be unable to fulfil my desires, for I have requested that this letter be forwarded only in the event I do not return. 

You have had many times more your share of illness and deaths in the family – still you have continued to exemplify what true parents should. I am sorry to add to your grief – but at all times realise that my thoughts are of you constantly and that I feel that in some small way I am helping to bring this wasteful war to a conclusion. 

We of the United States have something to fight for – never more fully have I realised that. There just is no other country with comparable wealth, advancement or standard of living. The USA is worth a sacrifice! 

Remember always that I love you each most fervently and I am proud of you. Consider, Mary, my wife, as having taken my place in the family circle and watch over each other. 

Love to my family 

Jack 

· Lundberg was killed in action two-and-a-half weeks after D-day, aged 25.

Marica

My Darlin Daddy…In a Nursing home…Memory care…Always Quoted this to me!!! He inspires me.. even to this day Wolfie!!!! Merry Christmas Precious Warrior!!! You and the Mrs…Give me………..Strength!!! Love you both!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hugs to you and yours, Marica! Merry Christmas!!! 😀 😍

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Marica

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anonymoushorse

Too bad that the Brits have forgotten Churchill.

Gail Combs

The Bobbies even ARRESTED an election candidate, Paul Weston for quoting Winston Churchill!!!
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rayzorback

Merry Christmas to all that go here!
Buckle up!
Things may get very interesting soon.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Amen! Merry Christmas! 😃

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Merry Christmas Grandmaster Obi-Wolf-Kanobi!!!🐺🐺🎄🎄🐺🐺
I appreciate and thank you for all you do for us❣❣❣ 🤗🤗💞💞💞

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hey, you’re posting on here no problem! AWOOOOOOOO!!! 😀

kinthenorthwest

Getting you ready for New Years or Maybe the 6th

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES’M! 😀

Sylvia Avery

Merry Christmas, Cartwheels!

wheatietoo

Merry Christmas, Syl!
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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Merry Christmas Shovels❣ 😂🤗🤗😚😙😘😍💖🦋🤸‍♀️🦋

anonymoushorse

Leave the gun, take the Kanobi.

rayzorback

TY Boss

gil00

Merry merry to you!

rayzorback

TY Buddy

wheatietoo

Merry Christmas, Rayzor!
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rayzorback

TY neighbor

smiley2

Merry Christmas, razorback 💕

rayzorback

TY smiley

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Merry Christmas Rayz!!🎅🎅🎅

rayzorback

You too Butterfly 🙂

anonymoushorse

From your lips to the Manger.

Marica

Merry Christmas My dear and patriotic Friends!!!! What a Fabulous Christmas post Grandma!!! God Wins Today……Gotta smile on my heart!!!! I love you guys forever!!!
Yer song Grandma…

jamcooker

One of my favorites!

Marica

Same JC!!!! 😘🥰

ForGodandCountry

What child of this??

Why, Händel answered that question this way…

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Merry merry, Marica!

Marica

Oh Darlin!! Merry Christmas, FG&C!!! 😘🥰💖

Marica

Handel’s Messiah… My Favorite!!!!

ForGodandCountry

They always sing this at my church at Christmas. I always bring kleneex, because after all these years I’ve given up trying to get through it without them.

Marica

FG%C… Me too!!! I play This during our Christmas Eve dinner!!! And literally… Wipe away tears as we eat!!! Kids make fun of me!!! Then …. to Troll me… They do dishes …to … this song!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

I know why they make fun of you, LOLZ!!!😜😎😘

I’ll see your Dominick and raise you a Grandma! 😂🤣

Marica

LOL!! Merry Christmas Butterfly!!!

jamcooker

My kids LOVED this and would sing it a lot at Christmas time!

Deplorable Patriot

I still haven’t figured out how an Easter Oratorio got so popular at Christmas.

At any rate, having sung the whole thing a few times, the Hallelujah Chorus is always raucous when you get the trumpets and timpani going. One time I sang it, I don’t remember who was conducting, and nobody in the chorus looked at the music for that particular number. We all really did have it memorized.

duchess01

One opinion here, DP!!!

https://www.npr.org/2008/12/23/98517850/the-pure-power-of-handels-hallelujah-chorus

Our Choir Director in HS used this powerful piece to bring former choir members back to the fold – traditionally sung every year at out Christmas Concert – former choir members from the audience were asked to join in singing – still gives me goosebumples today.

She was one in a million, DP – and now sings in the Heavenly Choir!

anonymoushorse

I actually find the Amen chorus more moving.

anonymoushorse

Maybe it’s because I’ve memorized the lyrics.

Deplorable Patriot

And he shall purify and the triple chorus at the beginning of Part 2 are the rough parts. The amen is the big sigh of its over. Well for the chorus anyway.

duchess01

Handel Messiah (Christmas Portion) – Robert Shaw and Atlanta Symphony Orchestra & Chorus

kinthenorthwest

Reminds of Christmas ’67 spent Christmas Eve at Midnight Mass in a Houston Convent.
The nuns seemed to almost float as they walked in signing. To me I felt like I was seeing and hearing a provessional of angels even though I was only 18.

scott467

That’s one of my favorites 👍

rayzorback

Hallelujah!
And HE shall Reign FOREVER and EVER!

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Thank you for this song, it was my Momma’s favorite, God rest her soul. Merry Christmas Sweet Marica, Luv U! ❤🤗😘😍💖

Marica

Darlin Butterfly!!! I dearly love you!!! merry Christmas!!! To one of my Favorite Sistas!!!💃💃😘🤗🤸‍♀️💖

wheatietoo

Merry Christmas, Marica!
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Marica

Merry Christmas Wheatie!!!! Smuchas darlin!!!😘🥰💖💖💖🤗💃

duchess01

MARICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Merry Christmas, Daaaalin!!!

Hope God has patched you up and wrapped you in love this Christmas!!!

I have to say the authors on your site are stupendous!!! What lovely visit I had on my break!!!

God Bless You Real Good – for opening that glorious respite of a site!!!

Now – if someone can help Kea come here to join us – that would be another great Christmas present – I would if I could – but, I am not ‘puter savvy – * Sigh *

Smooches and Huggles for you, Dear Lady!!!

Marica

I’m mending just fine sweet Duchess!!! Kea is determined to get back here! So have no fears!!! Smuchas dear sista!!!!😘🤗

duchess01

Good to hear – I know – from experience – it is a long way back to normal – and having a little one to motivate you – it’s a good thing!!!

Happy and Blessed Day I pray for you!!!

Marica

😘🥰💖💖💖

jamcooker

Merry Christmas and blessings on all!

Chesty Puller, what a Marine. I read his biography while our son was in MOS – IT stuff- and when he was posted, sent it with him to read. A true Marine’s Marine.

The fog of war, yes it’s there, but I turn to our Lord, He always provides a light.

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

Merry Christmas JC!!! 🥓 🥓 🥓 🥓 🥓 Like my Bacon Canes? 😂

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jamcooker

LOL

kinthenorthwest

Merry CHRISTmas To all my Q Tree Family
Just as Christmas will always be, as long as we stand heart to heart and hand in hand. so will America be!

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Love it!!! 

kinthenorthwest

God Bless…
Still Christmas Eve…

gil00

Merry Christmas

cthulhu

In several paintings, it looks like they’re poling across the river instead of rowing. Does anyone have sufficient experience on the Delaware to know if this is possible?

kinthenorthwest

From what I understand it was winter time, and the Delaware River was 1/2 frozen. On top of that it was a snowstorm.
Could see them poling it it was mostly frozen.

cthulhu

My understanding* is that a lot of navigation in the Atlantic Coastal Plain (the essentially flat area between the sea and the “fall line”) was by poling. The rivers were wide and shallow with gentle flow and muddy bottoms, and barges could pull themselves upstream by anchoring into the mud and pushing the barge forward against such anchorage.

I hadn’t previously heard of anyone associating poling with ice.

*Mind you, I am painfully aware that my California knowledge of the Southern experience is similar to a Martian’s view of a tropical rain forest. I try to study, and expect to learn quickly, but realize that I’ll look like a goofball for a while.

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cthulhu

OMG!!!! I successfully did an edit!!! [Close paren after “fall line”.]

I am amazeballs!!!! Wolf, this one is GREAT!!!

kinthenorthwest

You have to catch it prior to anyone hitting the thumbs up

kinthenorthwest

I’m not a boater. Only rowed a boat a couple of times and that was back at summer camps when I was a teen.
To me regardless of the depth of the water, if the river was partly frozen oars would probably be pretty much useless Using poles to move on the ice and navigate around the chunks of ice just makes sense to me.
Maybe because the picture in my head is spring time around here when the ice on the river is just melting and waters from the mountains are making the smaller rivers rushing rivers and breaking the ice on top into chunks. Happened where i live at least twp springs that I can think of!

http://www.alancurrie.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/George-Washington-crossing-Delaware-Dec-15_1776.jpg

cthulhu

In that pic, the woman is pulling an oar in an oarlock; the guy in the forward port position is using an oar (you can see the blade) to lever off ice (but not in the oarlock right in front of him), but the guy in front with his leg over the front is showing more handle than forward port and I don’t see a blade.

kinthenorthwest

Picked that one mainly because you could see how chunky I think it was.
I know in Washington’s biography “Washington The Man” Washington did not paint a very nice picture of it all.
Provisions were really low, lots of diseases, and they could not afford to clothe all of the men. If I rememember it was a long slow crossing and not becasue it was dark, but die to the 1/2 frozen waters .

cthulhu

This painting also shows the several limitations that rowing across would have faced. That’s what makes me curious.

kinthenorthwest

“Washington the Man” is a great biography. 1500 pages or ??? Very detailed.
Interesting part was some of the verbiage, or rather words. About every other page had strange words. Of course I figured them out if context. However, in looking them up later they were from the 18th century. Have a feeling the author immersed himself in Washington’s writings before writing the book .

kinthenorthwest

Do think the officers and Washington has better quarters, but the conditions. It is a miracle that they had the stamina to fight. Could you imagine walking miles on frozen or snow covered ground with just some cloth wrapped around you feet.

Hey that’s an idea. Put some of the cry baby snowflakes out in the wilderness for a few weeks with only the type of provisions people had in 1700s.

cthulhu

I have long believed that abducting whiny unrealistic woke idiots at 3AM, allowing them only a bathrobe, then dropping them into places like the upper Amazon, New Guinea, or sub-Equatorial Africa would be quick and effective cure for whatever is afflicting them.

Were they to be dropped into such locations, they’d be reasonable, skilled, and wise individuals when they made it back to civilization*.

*and if they didn’t, they would provide vital nutrients to the global ecosystem.

kinthenorthwest

FYI probably not a woman….man with long hair in long coat???

cthulhu

There was a recent analysis piece where it showed the symbolism of all the people in the boat, and she was definitely a woman…..and I’m inclined to believe it.

kinthenorthwest

Ahhh….Do know there were women, but usually disguised as men. Same with Civil War

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cthulhu

The particular painting under scrutiny is a bit of an allegory. The people in it are symbolic of various walks of life supporting the Revolution, including Polish, French, farmers, craftsmen, etc. It would not be reasonable to find all of these actually in the same boat with Washington doing the crossing.

kinthenorthwest

Ahhh–But there were women soldiers…just that they did not reveal they were women.

anonymoushorse

That puts to rest the propaganda that all we need to do to achieve peace in the world is put women in charge.

GA/FL

Photo – deadly icy Delaware river – !

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kinthenorthwest

Not a river one would row across much less pole across very easily
Looking back, seeing their hardships make it all the more important that we save the America they envisioned for their family’s future, and the America we know every American deserves to live in.

A new John Wayne video for me-Says what I was trying to say so well. (In God there are no coincidences only purposes)
John Wayne’s Describes America In Only A Way That He Himself Could Do. What does America mean to you? One Of The Most Patriotic Things You Will Ever See!

https://youtu.be/eUibDBLI8kc

GA/FL

The oars were very long and looked like poles.

Durham boat

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GA/FL

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GA/FL

STORY by Mount Vernon’s own George Washington historians of the Delaware River night crossing – there was rain, sleet, snow and hurricane force winds!

https://www.mountvernon.org/george-washington/the-revolutionary-war/washingtons-revolutionary-war-battles/the-trenton-princeton-campaign/10-facts-about-washingtons-crossing-of-the-delaware-river/

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GA/FL

….and only one group of troops made it.

…and it wasn’t easy on the other side of the river either….

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GA/FL

Every year, there is a reenactment at the site of the crossing – but – during the daytime and good weather!  I have been told that Princess Grace Kelly’s brother was the one who played General Washington for many years.

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Aubergine

What I think is happening is this;

Some people are rowing, while others are using poles to push ice floes and chunks away from the boat.

That is what makes sense to me. The ice would impede the forward progress made by the rowers.

Cuppa Covfefe

And thus was born (in Washington) the expression, “never trust the polls” 🙂

Here’s to a Happy Christmas and may the only ice that needs to be stirred be in a nice beverage 😀

Aubergine

LOL! Here’s to it!

kinthenorthwest

I made it up to President Taylor in my attempt t =o read an autobiography of the presidents, I think the reason I stopped is lack of what looked like decent biographies for Filmore.
Wow TY for all that information
That kind of history was why I wanted to drive up the eastern seaboard for a couple of weeks or so,

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! And I’m pretty sure they would have at least one and better two sounding poles aboard.

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sounding pole is a long rod, usually wood or aluminum, that is used to measure depths. They are primarily used to measure bodies of water, but can be used to measure the depths of holes, snow, and soil deposits in certain areas.

Generally, a sounding pole is about 20 feet in length, marked off in one inch increments. They tend to have a circular plate at one end to ensure that the spot being measured is fairly flat and normalized. The operator simply drops the pole until there is a refusal to go further, and then a measurement is taken. Usually this is done two or three times in close proximity to get a consistent reading.

Sounding poles have been replaced by SONAR and other bathymetric devices, but can still be used in areas where large amounts of vegetation or viscous mud distort electronic responses.

Fun FactSamuel Clemens got his pen name, “Mark Twain“, from his time working as a leadsman on the Mississippi River. The leadsman was the person who used the sounding pole or lead line to measure the depth of the river to ensure the boat was staying away from the shallow banks. To “mark twain” meant to mark that the depth of the water was two fathoms, or 12 feet.

https://www.everything2.com/title/sounding+pole

anonymoushorse

Makes me want to take up cross stitch.

kinthenorthwest

It just so beautiful…Kind of how I see Wolfie and his crew around St Nick….

pgroup2

Calm down. It’s been advanced on the calendar since then.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

What’s the new date? I’m not finding anything online!

patfrederick

I haven’t seen anything either and i searched the SC Docket for it…Docket # 20-845…
if it’s been expedited, the site hasn’t been updated that i can see.

bakocarl

The date after the inauguration, as I understand it, was a placeholder. I can’t cite the article, but it has been rescheduled, I believe, to on or before 6 Jan.

scott467

“The date after the inauguration, as I understand it, was a placeholder. I can’t cite the article, but it has been rescheduled, I believe, to on or before 6 Jan.”

____________

I was hoping the (not)Supreme Court was so brazen as to schedule it for the 22nd!

That would be one less “Lucy with the football” hope-crushing routine we would have to go through.

But the (not)Supreme Court is far too wicked and vile to miss an opportunity to crush the hopes of Trump supporters at least one more time, so I fully expect them to take the case and THEN rule against President Trump.

One more shot to the gut for the American People. And probably a few more, just for good measure.

Because they can.

But none of it matters, because DJT is not counting on any of our corrupt institutions to save our Republic from Chi-Com Joe.

He’s counting on himself and the United States military.

So let the traitors at the (not)Supreme Court do as they will.

It doesn’t matter.

They don’t matter.

Military is by far the best solution.

And as I think we will all see, the military is the only real solution there ever was. 👍

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smiley2

Merry Christmas, scott !
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😍💥👍💋🌟

smiley2

whoa

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

In Texas and Smiley pics, BIGGER IS BETTER!!! ❤😎

smiley2

too much Paul Newman is never enuff ??👍

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

HUBBA HUBBA!!🤩🤩🤩

And I like his dressing too!!😋

scott467

Merry Christmas Smiley!

JW in Germany

Exactly—NOT Supreme Court!

Like President Trump talking about the “elites” at rallies. If they are elite…then We the People are SUPER elite!

We the People are the ULTIMATE Supreme Court—and we have found the Deep State GUILTY of treason!

anonymoushorse

Strange how “elite” actually means “fallen”.

gil00

Yes. Military only atm.
Merry Christmas to you and them.

Aubergine

I can think of several ways the Court is Supreme:

Supremely inept.

Supremely cowardly.

Supremely incompetent.

Supremely useless.

It’s all in the word, it’s just how it’s used!

kinthenorthwest

Bet Roberts played a HUGE part in that.
Can it still be turned with Georgia, Nevada, and Wisconsin, along with maybe Arizona,

eilert

My MOAB I am envision (hoping) goes something like this:

On 6 Jan a GOP Rep. and a Senator object to certain electors.
Pence declares dispute.
2 Hour debate for electors starts. Within this debate, election fraud is shown.
The big MOAB immerges: the recorded conversation between Roberts and Beyers is played in front of everybody and the Propaganda MSM is forced to show it to the whole world

Roberts and Beyers resign.

AM I Too Hopeful for this ?!

pgroup2

Of course. But go with it anyway.

kinthenorthwest

Something just so sinister in what he is and has done.

Elizabeth Carter

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2er8rGzXlec

Marica

merry Christmas Dear Elizabeth!! Great to see you!!!!😘💖💖💖

Elizabeth Carter

Marica,
It is great to see you also.
Liz

Marica

😎😘🥰💖

scott467

Merry Christmas Liz!

And a happy New Year to us all… each and every one 🙂

Elizabeth Carter

Scott,
Things are finally coming together. 2021 will be great.
God Bless Us Everyone.
Liz

kinthenorthwest

Elizabeth–Thank you for sharing your find! Interesting the picture I had of some that I didn’t realize were Godly men..Thank you for sharing. Merry CHRISTmas!!

To think that 244 years ago Washington and his soldiers were crossing the 1/2 frozen Delaware River in the dead of night, during a driving snowstorm!
What so many, particularly our youth don’t realize was how outnumbered and out armed the Continental Army was.
On top of that the clothing of many of the soldiers were pretty much just rags, hanging on them. For shoes many soldiers only had rags wrapped around their feet as they walked upon frozen and snow-covered grounds.
Need to remember this was winter time with snow upon the ground temps between 37 and 41.

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http://old.post-gazette.com/images2/20011223apwashcross_230.jpg

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