DEAR KAG: 20211022

“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.”

Thomas Jefferson

Welcome back! Wolf’s Pub is open for business, and it’s a smart crowd we have today…and every day.

Today I honor my son-in-law, a hard-working and all-around great guy who happens to have had a birthday yesterday. Though he’s a Scotch man, he also enjoys gin, and his favorite is Bombay, that iconic British gin that was launched in 1960 but has roots in the 18th century.

Now, I’m a Beefeaters partisan, but Bombay is more than acceptable. Here’s a history of gin in general, and then here’s a nice little riff about the original Bombay gin. It’s a lovely and smooth gin, wonderful with tonic or in a Gimlet or Martini.

As I’ve noted before, gin puts me in a nice cellophane bubble. And honest-to-God, the times we are living in is enough to drive the best of us to find refuge in a bubble. Now, it’s okay to pop into a bubble on occasion, so let’s enjoy a Bombay gin in whatever cocktail we prefer. The bar is open, the company is stellar, and I heard there’s some appetizers floating around somewhere.


“Those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves.”

Abraham Lincoln

It’s time. We’re not gonna take it anymore. Klaus Baby and his CCP attack dogs have underestimated the American people. Our DNA cannot be corrupted. It’s 100% Grade A FREEDOM. Fauci can stuff it.

Do you remember when Tipper Gore and her sidekick, Al, went after rock music? Here’s a little history. Fun to watch Dee Snider take those POS to the cleaners.

Here’s the full hearing in Congress with Dee Snider. In light of what is happening today, I am soundly on the side of Twisted Sister. 😊

This is how we take them on. They deserve to be mocked and ridiculed and outed as the insufferable tyrants they are. Snider had it right.


I feel very little obligation to give the time of day to our foreign and domestic enemies. They will see justice. We will not forget. Every big business that fired one of us for choosing to remain unvaxxed will be remembered. Every business that forced their employees to be masked and vaxxed will be remembered. Every doctor and nurse and hospital that pushed the deadly Covid protocol and denied therapeutics to patients will be remembered.

It is not going to go well for any of them.

This is America. And we are a genial and friendly lot. We have a long fuse. We forgive easily. We do our best to be polite and open-minded, just like here at the Qtree. Wolf’s rules are helpful to review.

But there comes a time when blatant evil and greed must be confronted. The Utree is just such the place to confront others. It’s also a place to reconvene when the enemies of mankind attack us here. We make nice here and we make war over at the Utree.


I went Christmas shopping the other day. The scuttlebutt is that the shelves will be empty and stock low for the holiday season. I wanted to get a jump on it. Here’s a few of the ways that the enemies of our people seek to corrupt our children and shove their attacks in our face.

Let’s concentrate on dolls. First, note the eyes in the following dolls. Unnaturally large and vacant. There’s even dolls that have crossed out eyes, as if the doll is dead or almost like a zombie.

Fishnet stockings and a corset???

Notice the little doll that looks hypnotized or traumatized.

Have you noticed the fishnet stockings and corset on the little girl figure?

I wonder if there is some significance to the dots we can see reflected in the dolls’ eyes?

The features and clothes and expressions are all…off. It seems subtle until you actually take a moment to really study these toys. Degradation. Sexualization. Objectification.

Tip of the iceberg.

Just take a stroll down the toy isles. The occult is staring us in the face. It’s everywhere. Zombie dolls. Transhumanism, cyborgs, and on and on.

Walk through the kid section at a bookstore. There is more about witchcraft there than in the adult section.


“Cowardice is the most terrible of vices.”

Mikhail Bulgakov

We all know it. This cannot continue. We have to get involved. I’m going to begin raising a stink with the retailers like Walmart who carry these toys. The toys and the ideology behind them are disgusting and anti-human.

What shall I say?

They are designed to demoralize and corrupt our children, to hand them over to the devil. Parents in our public schools are also aware of what is going on with the curriculum. Our precious children are being taught Critical Race Theory (CRT) and introduced to perverted sex, and their parents are being attacked by our own government for opposing the evil teaching. Children are being taught to look at everything through a godless, satanic and communist lens.

I’ve decided I’m going to make a stink. I’d rather sit in my garden, but in all good conscience, I cannot.


Lots of stuff going on.

The Battle for Your Brain

The Propane Market Armageddon?

OSHA seeks to stop employers from reporting jab side effects

Precinct strategy now has state groups

The Army does a piss-poor job of propagandizing its troops

Used computers sold here (great for Linux newbies)

John Lovell gives some great advice on how to take our country back:

The New Normal Purge

Help to cancel the spike protein


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Chile became the first country in the world to protect neuro-rights after the Chamber of Deputies approved Wednesday (29/09/2021) an amendment to the Chilean Constitution. The bill is expected to be signed into law by their president soon.

The amendment to the Chilean Constitution aims at defining mental identity for the first time in history as a non-manipulable right to protect it against technological advancements in neurosciences and artificial intelligence. The bill sets out to protect the right to mental privacy, personal identity, the free will of thought, equitable access to technologies that increase human capacities, and protection against discrimination.

Guido Girardi, the opposition senator, said, The amendment to the Chilean Constitution “is the first law in the world on neuro-rights, and it is the first step in a legislative ecosystem that will regulate AI- and neuro-technologies.“







Light years ahead of our backwater country.


Wonderful news 🙂


Re: the Alex Baldwin murder…..yes, I said murder….

….and the reason it was murder is because a LIVE ROUND was loaded into the “prop” gun.

Please explain how/why a real, “live” shell….that was compatible with the “prop” gun Baldwin was using…. was anywhere within 1 mile of the movie set.

Who was the person who actually loaded the gun? What are their gun safety credentials and experience?


Why does everyone rush to call this an “accident” vs. a murder? Baldwin’s uncontrollable temper is legendary and he is KNOWN for it.



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Sabotage? A warning perhaps?

Cuppa Covfefe

(I posited this on the other page) what if someone ELSE had an agenda, knew of Baldwin’s, erm, predilections/temper/whatever, and swapped out blanks for the real thing?

The instigator, then, got Baldwin to do his/her dirty work without being noticeably involved… love triangle? old grudge? someone wanting to frame Baldwin?

In any case, the lack of proper controls of props and chain of custody, in normal times, would get some folks in very deep trouble, and at the very least some sort of manslaughter conviction…

Deplorable Patriot

I agree. Look at the chain of custody before pointing the finger at a convenient target.


I had a whole list of such questions, but there wasn’t enough information available yet.

Why was he pointing a gun at the director of photography, and pulling the trigger?

Is the director of photography also acting in the scene, or is it traditional for actors to shoot prop guns at the photography director?

How far away was Mr. Baldwin was from the photography director. Was he at a normal distance from the camera, or was he up close when it happened?

A fatal shot from a prop gun (assuming it fired a blank at the time the story broke) would most likely be a head shot.

If it was up close, what possible explanation can there be for firing a prop gun at close range, at the head of anyone who is not being executed, as part of a movie scene?

What was Mr. Baldwin’s mood just prior to the shooting?

Was it just a regular moment on the set, or was Mr. Baldwin in the middle of one of his well known ‘rages’?



Gateway Pundit just put up an article that Baldwin was waving the gun around ranting about Trump when it went off.


If true, the President should weigh in on this episode of fatal TDS.


I don’t see anything about Trump in that article.

And the quote in GWP about picking his own gun is by another actor, not Baldwin. From the Daily Mail:

Last month, actor Jensen Ackles told a conference in Denver how he’d been able to ‘choose’ his own gun from the female armorer in a haphazard training session.

‘They had me pick my gun. They were like, “Alright, what gun would you like?” I was like, “I don’t know”, and the armorer was like, “Do you have gun experience?” I was like, “A little”, she was like, “This is how you load it…check it’s safe. Do you want it hip drawn or cross drawn?” I was like “cross drawn, that sounds fun”.

‘So she’s like, “I’ll just put some blanks in there and just fire a couple of rounds towards the hill.”

‘I walk out and she’s like, “Just make sure you pull the hammer all the way back and aim at your target”. 

‘I was like alright I got it,’ he said. 

The female armorer has not been named.  

Looks as if gun training was woefully inadequate and safety was not a big concern. But what exactly was Baldwin doing?


If Baldwin can just work the word ‘like’ into his story a little more (“They were like”, “I was like”, “So she’s like”), he could be a real life Valley Girl… 😁


Right, but that wasn’t Baldwin. It was Jensen Ackles.


From the article posted at CTH:

Vanity Fair – […] “Details surrounding the shooting, which occurred while a scene was being filmed, are still forthcoming.”


That’s newspeak, for NOT forthcoming yet, and no intention for that to change.


forthcoming = formulating


This is SD’s take, or how it should be reported, except MSM is coverup or promotion media, and has nothing whatsoever to do with actual ‘reporting’:

Alec Baldwin Shoots Two People, Killing One, During Filming in New MexicoOctober 22, 2021 | Sundance | 98 Comments

“Hollywood actor, producer and political activist Alec Baldwin is a man of notoriously intemperate disposition.  Prone to angry outbursts and uncontrollable anger, the unstable Mr. Baldwin is well known for physical and verbal violence against people he dislikes {link} even his own children.

Yesterday the 68-year-old Baldwin shot two people on a film set in New Mexico killing one and seriously injuring another. Mr Baldwin killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins and wounded director Joel Souza. The unstable actor claims he shot them accidentally and has reportedly said he is sorry to the husband of the deceased woman he killed.”

SD even went easy on him.

If it had been a conservative involved in the shooting, MSM fake news media would have been a thousand times more vicious.


I agree. Someone loaded a live round. There was NO reason whatsoever for a live round to be there. This was on purpose, by SOMEONE. The only question is, WHO?


If the spent shell hasn’t been wiped, finger prints / DNA will be used for evidence.


There is also the possibility that the shell was wiped clean and fingerprints added by transfer from another object such as a drinking cup or writing pen of another person. I think a special kind of tape is used in that process.


Saw a news report that the s***-for-brains “armorer” on set pulled the shell casing from the gun (evidently no eject) before handing the gun over to police.


Probably. But as the gun user he had a responsibility to personally ensure that that the gun was not loaded.



If you are handed a gun, ever, even by the clerk at the gun store. If they don’t show you it is cleared, you must clear it. Period.


What do you guys think of this? phoenix


Professor Antonietta Gatti examined various PCR test swabs and analysed their ingredients. The results showed that they are made of tough materials and contain a large number of nano-particles including silver, aluminum, titanium, and glass fibres. All of which are not declared on the PCR test package insert.

According to the Professor if these fibres get stuck in the mucous membranes they can cause severe wounds and inflammation. Mucous membranes that are no longer intact can no longer fulfill their role of fending off viruses, bacteria and fungi before they reach the airways. The germs penetrate the respiratory tract without any immune filter.

In the laboratory, Professor Gatti used electron microscopy (ESEM and EDS) to analyse various types of swabs, which are used to collect human organic material for PCR diagnostics, in order to check the morphology and chemical composition.“

Full analysis:






“The results showed that they are made of tough materials and contain a large number of nano-particles including silver, aluminum, titanium, and glass fibres. All of which are not declared on the PCR test package insert.”


I smelled that rat from 10,000 yards away.

Why let some stranger jam a swab with who knows what on it, up my nose, to make contact with the mucous membrane at the blood-brain barrier? I have never heard of any kind of DNA test that required such a thing, a saliva sample is more than sufficient.

And a saliva test is NON-INVASIVE, i.e., there is no opportunity for Mr. Glowieballs to sabotage the swab or use it as a tool to introduce anything foreign to the body.

And I don’t even approve of the saliva test, because what are they doing with the DNA sample after they’ve used their bogus PCR test to come up with a bogus test result?

The entire exercise is a fraud, either to generate billions of dollars for worthless procedures, or as part of a massive psy-op, or to introduce foreign substances to the people, or other (all of the above).

Concerned Virginian

Well, this may explain the reports of people getting terrible nosebleeds, or worse, after being subjected to the “deep nasal collection swab PCR” test. Wasn’t there a repost of a tweet on this board a few days ago, from a mother whose young daughter was “tested” this way at her school, and the mother included a photo of her child bleeding profusely from her nose and her eyes after the ‘test” was performed?
One may assume that ANY “PCR test” swab will contain sharp fibers — not just the “deep nasal” swab, but ALSO the “anterior swab” (inserted just inside the nostril), AND the “mid-turbinado swab” (inserted about 1 inch inside the nostril.


Right C.V.

Valerie Curren

“They” are determined to assault us bodily w/ dangerous foreign substances & with supremely evil intent! Be it Covid, clot shot, nano-bots pre-loaded in syringe needles, fibers from PCR tests, &/or spike proteins shed from shot-bots. Regardless of our desires or decisions & against our will the cabal is raping the world, as the spawn of Satan that they reveal themselves to be. Horrifying!


How can a prop gun used on a movie set be deadly?

A prop gun — a firearm filled with blanks and used in the film industry to mimic live ammunition — may sound harmless, but it can be dangerous and even deadly, as was the case on the set of Alec Baldwin’s new movie “Rust” this week.

Gunfire in movies appears very convincing because blanks used to imitate live ammo are basically modified real bullets.

Live rounds consist of a cartridge that contains propellant powder, which is ignited when the gun is fired and propels the bullet — the actual projectile at the top of the shell — out of the barrel.

But rather than using metal projectiles, blanks contain materials such as cotton, paper or wax wadding attached to the front to imitate live-fire — including a loud bang, muzzle flash and a realistic recoil.

Still, even without real metal projectiles, blanks can be very dangerous, the BBC notes, because some filmmakers use extra powder to make the superheated gas discharge even

more realistic.

The wadding used to hold the gunpowder in place instead of a bullet gets expelled when the trigger is pulled and can cause serious damage – and even death…

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Movie sets usually have strict rules about the use of prop guns, which are provided by firearms specialists who instruct actors on their use, the BBC reported.

Paul Szych, a retired Albuquerque police commander who handled a prop gun in the movie “Terminator Salvation,” told KOAT that movie sets use a “strict process, very controlled because they obviously know we’re dealing with weapons that are capable of firing live ammunition.”

He added: “There’s one point of contact to get that firearm. It’s given directly to you, and there is a question-and-answer period that goes on when it comes to, what do you have on you? What do you have in your pockets, things of that nature.”

Szych said blank rounds are still dangerous…

When asked if a live round could end up in a prop gun, he said that though unlikely, it could happen if someone was loading a gun in the dark or in a hurry.

“When loading that magazine, you would be able to clearly see, OK, look, this has a bullet on it around on the end of it, or it doesn’t,” Szych said.

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Weapons expert Bill Davis, who has worked on several movie productions, told the BBC that “if someone actually put a live round in there, number one that shouldn’t have been on the set.

Number two, they should have visually inspected the gun first with a pencil down the barrel and a flashlight to make sure there’s no obstructions in the mechanism and number three, they need to inspect the round that’s going in there,” he said.

Some industry members wondered why blanks are still being used at a time when computers can add gunfire special effects.


“Some industry members wondered why blanks are still being used at a time when computers can add gunfire special effects.”


Because if the movies get any more fake than they already are, you might as well just hold up a drawing on a white board and tell the audience to use their imagination.

CGI looks like CGI.

People may have been trained / programmed to appreciate CGI, but that doesn’t mean it looks real.

Though the eye is easier to fool than the ear.

A similar point can be made about digital audio vs. analogue audio.

People can learn to adapt to digital audio, and digital audio can sound very good, with the right (i.e., usually expensive) equipment.

But do a blind test with a quality analogue stereo system, and your ear can (should) hear the difference.

The record industry doesn’t care, all they care about is $$$.

Same with the movie industry.

And that is exactly why you get quotes like “Some industry members wondered why blanks are still being used at a time when computers can add gunfire special effects.”

It’s because they don’t care.

They don’t care about the quality of their product, and they don’t care about the integrity of the medium, and they don’t care about the audience.

They just care about the $$$.


Just like your brain knows that LED Christmas lights are garish and throw no warmth.


Baldwin’s reactions:

An eyewitness told Hollywood gossip site Showbiz 411 that Baldwin started asking how he could have been given a “hot gun” — meaning a firearm loaded with real ammunition — immediately after the incident. 

“In all my years, I’ve never been handed a hot gun,” the actor allegedly kept saying.

The witness said Baldwin was in shock after the ordeal and he “had no idea how badly they were hurt or Halyna was dead.”

Baldwin was among those questioned by authorities, and he was pictured in tears as he spoke into a cellphone outside the sheriff’s office Thursday. His rep hasn’t responded to The Post’s request for comment.


Alec Baldwin said Friday that his “heart is broken” after firing a prop gun that killed a cinematographer and wounded the director of a movie being filmed in New Mexico.
“There are no words to convey my shock and sadness regarding the tragic accident that took the life of Halyna Hutchins, a wife, mother and deeply admired colleague of ours,” Baldwin tweeted.
“I’m fully cooperating with the police investigation to address how this tragedy occurred and I am in touch with her husband, offering my support to him and his family.”
He added: “My heart is broken for her husband, their son, and all who knew and loved Halyna.”
Sources told The Post that people close to Baldwin were worried about the potential impact on his mental health.
“Alec is absolutely devastated, distraught, in shock and in disbelief over how this could have happened,” one source said.
“Yes, he can be hotheaded, but deep down Alec has a very good heart.”
The source added: “But he’s a fragile guy and we don’t know how he will ever come to terms with this.”


Let the apologists begin their work. Maybe it would be a good idea for the holder of the weapon to check that it was a prop gun first. If unable to do so one should not hold a potential weapon – should have another set member to check the gun out. Next, why would the weapon be pointed at non-actors of a scene?

Will the truth ever see the light of day? I hope Baldwin will make necessary changes in his life before he meets his maker.


why would the weapon be pointed at non-actors of a scene?

That’s a key question. Were the non-actors behind someone in a scene who was supposedly getting shot, or was the gun fired when the cameras weren’t rolling? If the latter, that is gross negligence on Baldwin’s part. But we need factual answers.


It was a cinematographer and a director — if they were looking to have a scene where the gun shoots at the camera, their presence would be logical.



Oh, my….


Right ?! That opens up a can of worms


Well, “prop gun” is a misnomer of sorts. They use REAL guns, loaded with blanks. It is a “prop,” but it is not “fake.”


I think those quotes from Baldwin are parts of tweets he sent out.

I know this is an unpopular opinion here, but I believe it’s possible that this was an accident or that someone else didn’t do their job properly. Baldwin will wake up to this every day for the rest of his life, which has been profoundly changed forever. I hope it will cause changes in him for the better.

If he did murder someone, then of course he needs to go to prison.

If he was horsing around and not being careful, then he needs to face the consequences of that too.

But I believe the reports that he is devastated. One would have to be a monster with no spark of humanity not to be. Again, I hope he will change for the better because of it.


Possible is okay. Meanwhile can’t dismiss that no sooner than the Brian Laundrie Saga officially ends with the FBI confirming it’s his body is the very same day we open the Alec Baldwin Saga.


TheseTruths…Well, clearly Baldwin did not take possession of this gun directly from Props…as the specialist suggested is normally done,
Baldwin said: “I’ve never been handed a hot gun.”


Who handed it to him?


Next step coming into focus. The fully vaccinated will only be those who’ve been ‘boosted’ year after year after year.


Nope. Done with it. Done with the whole thing. Their experiment failed, and they don’t get to keep redefining things. They don’t get to “grant” us exemptions or exceptions or deferments. Done.


“They don’t have authority anymore.”


And they never did. 👍

Brave and Free

Absolutely! I never participated from the beginning and I am not going to start now. 😊😊


Me, either!

We should get a non-participation trophy!



Concerned Virginian

One can just about bet the farm that Dr. Rochelle Walensky (CDC acting director AND protegee of Dr. Anthony Fauci) is doing this IN TANDEM with Fauci behind the scenes.

Brave and Free

Do you mean like Zero’s pulling the strings on ole Joe?

Concerned Virginian

“Zero” is the shadow “President” with ValJar “advising”.
Walensky and Fauci are the “vaccine” and “booster shots” tandem. She’s known him for years and is herself an “expert” in HIV/AIDS.

Deplorable Patriot

I’m waiting for the fallout to happen. When it does, I might actually go back to some of the choruses I used to sing with. There will be openings.


Forwarded from Resist the Mainstream Here Are The 9 Republicans Who Voted to Approve Criminal Contempt Referral for Steve Bannon

Resist the Mainstream

Here Are The 9 Republicans Who Voted to Approve Criminal Contempt Referral for Steve Bannon
The House vote was held Thursday.



Mike Lindell is taking the Election Fraud case before the Supreme Court the Tuesday before Thanksgiving.
He will have a marathon broadcast from Wednesday to Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend, pushing the evidence submitted.
The Lindell Report on Cyber Saposium, Election Fraud, and Updates On The Social Media Side of Frank | Frank Speech the Home of Free Speech

Also on Bannons War Room today:
Biggest Coverup For Biggest Crime In History (

He will also setup a Information Fusion Center For The Whole Country, which will show the fraud evidence of all available sources:
Mike Lindell Has Information Fusion Center For The Whole Country (

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I first read that as “Lindell is dropping the case,” but thank goodness it’s not that! I pray that SCOTUS will do the right thing.


Yes I edited this after I posted and noticed what I have written didn.t sound right.


Thanks for bringing that news!


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Valerie Curren

He should stop holding back 😉

I went to post this image on Gab & found this gem 🙂
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He said, “Let’s go, Brandon!” 😃


Just heard from my son about a co-worker who had two vaccines and a booster and now has Covid. Very sick and getting infusions of monoclonal antibodies. Wake up people!


Here we go. The the first round of artillery at the opening of a battle.


“Might the prop gun have been secretly loaded with real bullets by a Trump supporter, to punish Alec Baldwin for his Trump parodies? Should be a line of inquiry.”



More likely a union cameraman.


Scab workers in play also.

PISSED OFF employees.


That right there is LOL stupidity.


Yup. A stale Dem playbook move.


100% true tweets


Yep…he’s always putting his judgmental 2 cents in on every conceivable Trump/MAGA subject so he deserves some harsh judgment back


That is the straight truth. Fuck him.


Yep x 1,000


There it is … Trump’s Fault ™


“Might the prop gun have been secretly loaded with real bullets by a Trump supporter, to punish Alec Baldwin for his Trump parodies? Should be a line of inquiry.”


Uhh… no.

But you know what it MIGHT be?

You know what is about a thousand times more likely?

That some sick Leftist, who wanted to FRAME a Trump supporter, secretly loaded the gun with real bullets.

Because how many Trump supporters are there on any Hollywood movie set?


And how many sick Nazi Leftists are there on any Hollywood movie set?

All of them?

Deplorable Patriot

Maybe politics had nothing to do with it, and someone wanted to use Baldwin’s legendary temper to an advantage.

It’s all on the table at this point.

Sadie Slays

The woman Alec Baldwin murdered was also an investigative journalist.

Originally from Ukraine, Halyna grew up on a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle surrounded by reindeer and nuclear submarines. She holds a graduate degree in International Journalism from Kyiv National University in Ukraine and previously worked as an investigative journalist with British documentary productions in Europe.

I made a dark joke in the previous thread that maybe she caught Baldwin in some pedo activity and had to be silenced. The public spectaclemurder scandal on-set vs. unfortunate car crash or “suicide”is to send a message to others to keep quiet or else.


No coincidences.

Cuppa Covfefe


Ukraine… Britain… muh Russia refurfacing on a few fronts (Deripasky, too)…
People walking off the set in protest (= fewer witnesses?)…

Could she have been a “woman who knew too much”?

I always remember Dorothy Kilgallen (investigative journalist and panelist on “What’s My Line?”) who was investigating JFK’s assassination, who was suicided… Another Klowns In Action victim who didn’t kill herself…

And I wonder if Baldwin thought those were blanks but someone swapped them out…
Similar to some TV series plots… life imitating art, as it were…


The thing is, if someone other than Baldwin put the bullet in the gun hoping for some mayhem, they were taking the risk that nothing at all would happen. No one could know that Baldwin would point the gun at someone and pull the trigger. Unless it was MK.


Scary thought.



The big eye trend also involves owls. Could there be a tie-in with kids dolls and pervasive owl symbolism in demonic cults?

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Wow. Images show up too large. Sorry.


Isn’t it funny when we start noticing strange things and then there’s always some rabbit hole, like who and why are they all using this big glassy eyed depiction of children, toys, animals


Short answer? Yes.


I know. Pisses me off, as I genuinely love owls.


They are a beautiful creature, and were a symbol of wisdom for centuries. Now they have been co-opted by perverts just like rainbows and the color purple.

Well, they can’t have them!


The cover story?

The crew of Alec Baldwin’s movie set were already concerned about gun safety before he accidentally shot and killed cinematographer Halyna Hutchins, and they had walked off the set hours before she was killed, after they complained about long hours, shoddy conditions and two other incidents involving the ‘misfire’ of weapons.


It’s getting murky


This will be a lesson for the always yammering woke hollyweirdos…Don’t like guns ? Then stop making films that feature them. Stop making any films that glorify or romanticize violence or rape or sex…

Cuppa Covfefe

They’re going to use this to try to take guns away from everyone…

Their evil knows no bounds. And, like their father Satan, the father of lies, they have no problem lying to anyone, at any time…


Yup. Lying is one of the more tame things..they steal, they extort, they kill, they murder, they cause others to murder by psychological means…Like Satan they want to be God and unfortunately have grown in their scope and power


Yes, they should stop participating in anything where guns are used.

The cavalier attitude toward gun safety that I’m reading about doesn’t comport with the Leftist view that a gun can kill of its own volition 🙄. If they are that afraid of them and think they are that dangerous, why aren’t they being super careful with them?


In this case, they have people for that ya know. He was the star, no need for him to waste his time on some flunky’s job…he gets to shootem up and be the good guy or the bad guy.


This cluster F just got more STOOPID.

One or more ARE in deep kimchi. MeThinks there ARE going to be arrests(s) and prosecution(s).

This IS NO accident. Negligent discharge IS an understatement. As FG&C posted up thread, murder. We’ll see IF the DA is going to roll over for hollyweird AND a very discrete payoff.

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Lawyers must have descended like a swarm of locusts to force non disclosure agreements at the movie set, hospital, morgue etc.


and two other incidents involving the ‘misfire’ of weapons.


And that right there is the relevant part that is going to get someone (or a lot of someones) in a type of trouble called “liability”, at the very least.

One incident involving the ‘misfire’ of a weapon is already negligence. There’s even a term for it, ‘negligent discharge’.

The key word being ‘negligent’.

Once is negligent, which attaches liability if there is harm to person or property.

Twice on the same set for the same movie is the kind of dangerous incompetence that should have resulted in the responsible party being fired.

Baldwin makes the third time, on the same set, of the same movie?

The odds (and associated liability) must be astronomical.

The director and the family of the cinematographer just hit the jackpot.


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Cuppa Covfefe

Let’s Go Brandon and the horse you rode in on…


Oh lord. Belly laugh. LOLOLOL!!!

Valerie Curren

So That’s what Corn Pop looks like!!!


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Josh Mandel

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Well, good, but the damage is done.




Fantastic! WINNING!

We are WINNING again! ‘Bout damned time.


Only winningvwhen those involved are no longer in this line of work.


Oh, we’re winning here.

We will not have WON until the bastards are out.


Right! Winning battles, but not yet the WAR.




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Common sense is a thing.




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Yes, and, Here. We. Are.




Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Friday the Pentagon would continue to support Taiwan’s military but declined to say if U.S. troops would defend the island against China, after President Joe Biden said there was an American “commitment” to do so.

“As we’ve done over multiple administrations, we will continue to help Taiwan with the sorts of capabilities that it needs to defend itself,” Austin said at NATO headquarters.

“And so, we’ll stay focused on those things. And I won’t engage in any hypotheticals with respect to Taiwan,” he told reporters.
The Byedone administration is not gonna protect anyone. Not us, not Taiwan, and not Afghanistan.


New Baldwin details. It’s not looking good for him as a producer.

Hours before actor Alec Baldwin fatally shot a cinematographer on the New Mexico set of “Rust” with a prop gun, a half-dozen camera crew workers walked off the set to protest working conditions.

The camera operators and their assistants were frustrated by the conditions surrounding the low-budget film, including complaints of long hours, long commutes and collecting their paychecks, according to three people familiar with the matter who were not authorized to comment.

Safety protocols standard in the industry, including gun inspections, were not strictly followed on the “Rust” set near Santa Fe, the sources said. They said at least one of the camera operators complained last weekend to production managers about gun safety on the set.

Three crew members who were present at the Bonanza Creek Ranch set that day said they were particularly concerned about two accidental prop gun discharges on Saturday.

Baldwin’s stunt-double accidentally fired two rounds Saturday after being told that the gun was “cold” — lingo for a weapon that doesn’t have any ammunition, including blanks, one of crew members who witnessed the episode told the Los Angeles Times.

“There should have been an investigation into what happened,” said the crew member. “There were no safety meetings. There was no assurance that it wouldn’t happen again. All they wanted to do was rush, rush, rush.”

A colleague was so alarmed by the prop gun misfires he sent a text message to the unit production manager. “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe.”…

The cinematographer who was accidentally killed, Halyna Hutchins, had been advocating for safer conditions for her team, said one crew member who was on the set and was tearful when the camera crew left.

“She said, ‘I feel like I’m losing my best friends,’” recalled one of the workers.

The shooting occurred about six hours after the union camera crew left.

What Baldwin was doing:

Baldwin, the film’s star who also served as a producer on the film, was apparently rehearsing a scene outside the church of the Bonzana Creek Ranch set, according to two knowledgeable people.

The scene involved a gun fight that began in the church, and then Baldwin’s character was supposed to back out of the church, according to production notes obtained by The Times. It was the 12th day of a 21-day shoot.

Still no details on exactly how the people got shot. This says it was a single round. Was it a cartridge with a projectile vs. a blank?

A live single round was accidentally fired on set by the principal actor, hitting both the Director of Photography, Halyna Hutchins, and Director Joel Souza. Both were rushed to the hospital,” the email said.

Local 44 does not know what projectile was in the gun and clarified that “live” is an industry term that refers to a gun being loaded with some material such as a blank ready for filming.


There is no substitute for personally inspecting a firearm to verify its status as unloaded or loaded.


Right! Any responsible gun owner knows this. There is a disconnect between the “concern” of the Left about guns and the lack of care these people took with them.


Can you tell me…does a blank actually fire a bullet..with something in it or it makes noise like a live fire. I’m so ignorant of what a blank is


I posted something above with pics that explains it somewhat. A blank does have gunpowder and makes noise. It just doesn’t have the metal projectile that a live round has.

Live rounds consist of a cartridge that contains propellant powder, which is ignited when the gun is fired and propels the bullet — the actual projectile at the top of the shell — out of the barrel.

But rather than using metal projectiles, blanks contain materials such as cotton, paper or wax wadding attached to the front to imitate live-fire — including a loud bang, muzzle flash and a realistic recoil.


Thanks. I’m trying to understand why the crew was so freaked about misfires other than it screwing up a scene or something


I think the term “misfire” is being used by the authors of these articles in a broad way that isn’t accurate. If an actor thought a gun was cold — i.e., had no bullets or blanks in it — but the gun was loaded and the actor fired it, thinking it was unloaded, that’s a serious situation. The gun didn’t misfire; it discharged a projectile when it was thought to be unloaded. As Scott points out, this is not accident, but negligence. It is not misfiring; it is lack of communication and taking care when handling a firearm.


Ok, thanks for the extra info.

I suppose it’s not exactly necessary to know the minutia because there was live ammo in that gun and there shouldn’t be any on set anyway as you said


Or to put it another way, it’s not a “misfire” because the gun functioned as it was designed to function. “Misfire” essentially says the gun was defective.

No, it’s Baldwin’s brain that was defective.


He should be arrested for manslaughter at this point.


A colleague was so alarmed by the prop gun misfires he sent a text message to the unit production manager. “We’ve now had 3 accidental discharges. This is super unsafe.”…


So Baldwin’s was the FOURTH negligent discharge.

Negligent discharge and accidental discharge are NOT the same thing.

Accidental Discharge vs. Negligent Discharge: What’s the Difference?
Both Accidental Discharges and Negligent Discharges can happen but they mean completely different things.

The two terms are not interchangeable and most shooters will never experience an accidental discharge.

99.9% of the time you hear someone referring to an accidental discharge it is actually a negligent discharge.”

Four times…

Lawyers should be getting in fist fights with each other, waiting in line to take this case.

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Interesting article. Yes, people thinking a gun is “cold” and using it without checking is negligence. A prop manager letting that misconception happen is negligence. I would think that even having any live rounds on the set would be negligence. There was no reason to have them there. And more…

The first rule of gun safety is that every gun is loaded.

Second Amendment proponents (which is to say, Americans) have plenty of “ammunition” to use against anyone who tries to use this to promote gun control.

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A prop gun CAN’T hold a live round… it was a REAL gun that was used.

Analysis of the incident:

More details:


Here, Baldwin says he was handed a gun by the assistant director and told it was safe to use. Unbelievable.

The gun handed to Alec Baldwin before the fatal shooting on the “Rust” movie set was loaded with a live round … according to a warrant from the ongoing police investigation.

The warrant says an assistant director handed the gun to Alec and told the actor it was safe to use before the deadly incident … according to the warrant obtained by the Associated Press.

The warrant says the assistant director didn’t know the gun was loaded, but it doesn’t mention who actually loaded the gun … which may become the central issue.

Alec’s blood-stained costume from the movie has been taken as evidence, as well as the gun that went off, plus other prop guns and ammo being used on set, according to the warrant.

The warrant says Halyna Hutchins was shot in the chest and Joel Souza was wounded as he was standing behind her.

A source working on the movie tells us gun safety has been a consistent issue on set, and just last weekend blank rounds were shot when they weren’t supposed to go off.


The weapons master is required to be on set whenever a weapon is being used. The Actors’ Equity Association’s guidelines state that, “Before each use, make sure the gun has been test-fired off stage and then ask to test fire it yourself. Watch the prop master check the cylinders and barrel to be sure no foreign object or dummy bullet has become lodged inside.” Further, “All loading of firearms must be done by the property master, armorer or experienced persons working under their direct supervision.”


Someone didn’t follow safety guidelines. Was it intentional? If so, who caused the death of the woman and why, and who all was in on it?


Safety guidelines are there for a purpose. It was either intentional or negligent.


Why was the gun even pointed at Hutchins…?


Good question. I don’t know how things work on movie sets. Someone has to be filming. I don’t if they are normally behind some kind of barrier when dangerous things are being filmed. But the camera has to have access to the action. What I’m getting at is that I don’t know if she would have been right there on the scene as part of her job, thinking she was safe because the gun had only blanks…or not.


I found this from the NYTimes, which I never click on but made an exception in this case.

The assistant director of the western film “Rust” grabbed a prop pistol from a gray cart and handed it to the movie’s star, Alec Baldwin, shouting “cold gun!” — which was supposed to indicate that it did not contain any live rounds, and was safe to handle around the crew huddled by the camera.

Ms. Hutchins, who was 42, was sitting in front of Mr. Souza, the director, watching the scene play out when the projectile struck her, the police said.

The armorer “was given the prop gun after it was fired by actor Alec Baldwin” and “then took the spent casing” out of the weapon before handing it over to the police, Detective Cano wrote.

Mr. Baldwin “was wearing Old Western style clothing during the filming,” and changed into his street clothes before turning over his costume to the department’s evidence technician, he wrote.

“These clothes appeared to have blood stains,” Detective Cano added.


The proper response to being given a gun and told it is safe is either: (a) “show me”, watch carefully, and do not let the gun leave your control afterwards; or (b) checking it yourself, and not letting the gun leave your control afterwards without rechecking it.


Interesting links. From the second one:

So the husband of the woman who Alec Baldwin shot is a lawyer

Who’s firm just happens to represent the Clintons 

Nothing to see here

The first link is telling:

  1. No live rounds allowed on sets, period. The writer thinks it’s indicative of a crime.
  2. Day scenes do not require the firing of blanks because you can’t see the muzzle flash. Insurance is more expensive for risky things, so they avoid them when possible.
  3. A crew member loads the blanks into the gun. There is no way they would load a live round in with them because they look so different.

The term “prop gun” is also used to describe real guns used on sets like this. The media is full of reports now about how dangerous prop guns can be. 🙄


Contributing concerning the new Baldwin Saga. The very day the Brian Laundrie Saga ends the Alec Baldwin Saga begins. Very same day. No breather. If this is indeed a new squirrel to follow where do you commit such crimes. Start with the crime scene. Where is this. Sante Fe. Voted 72% Democrat in the last election. Mayor and District Attorney while claiming to be non partisan came down heavy in favor of Santa Fe Monument protestors in 2020 and blocked information from civic leaders from getting out. This is a Bill Richardson State, George Soros dumped money into Alberquere’s DA race to steal that election but didn’t have to with Santa Fe as it was already owned or maybe he did and I missed the money. Point being these sensational type crimes normally happen in Democrat controlled areas where they can help control the narrative and scope of investigations. That’s the contribution.

Please continue with this Baldwin thing about the TDS politically active, hot headed actor accidentally having live rounds, accidently aiming it at a non actor and accidentally hitting the non Russian born actor with a lethal shot as I like where this is going even if is IMO a purposeful distraction.

Quick question though. Why do I think Baldwin hangs with Johnny Depp, Harvey Weinstein, Charlie and Martin Scheen, Sean Penn, bunch, aka Henry Fonda types and aren’t some of those claimed to have CIA ties?

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. I think the woman being Ukrainian is more than just a coincidence. She also worked in the UK. Deripaska is also back in the news. An Arkancide by the Klintoons against one of their own???

Every time Hell-the-BEAST pops up, either directly or indirectly, evil, often Terrible evil, occurs…

Tragic that someone died because of this, or negligence, or even flat out incompetence…