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When I was working on my Jonestown series, it occurred to me that the internet might facilitate cults of unprecedented proportions, that rather than 1,000 people committing mass suicide, it could be millions. It’s increasingly clear that that’s exactly what the trans movement is.

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From Badlands:

Our Take: “What could possibly go wrong when a close-knit fraternity of sociopaths has the ability to observe your brain-wave patterns and punish you for your thoughts?

The same people who called Donald John Trump a dictator are probably ogling over this Orwellian nightmare. Though, I suppose we might be at an advantage; we can more accurately predict what the uber-rich ruling class at Davos is thinking without the use of cutting edge technology. I defy anyone to watch this video and give me even one positive application of this technology.

Normally I’d say it is unlikely that anyone would willingly sign up for this, but the way people lined up for experimental drugs to be injected directly into their veins in response to a virus with a 99% survival rate suggests otherwise. All it takes is a perceived threat and a pervasive marketing campaign.” — Ryan DeLarme

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Congratulations! You finally figured it out. Some of us have been living with that label for decades.

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I’m with Sundance on this one. It does not pass the smell test.

Tweet hopper:


I made a conscious decision to not bring any of that crap here.

Meme & Fun hopper:

Something to remember, always.

Per the boss’s instruction:

I’d throw in a few Rockefellers and Rothschilds also.

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1 20And God said, “Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the firmament of the heavens.” 21So God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarm, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters in the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.” 23And there was evening and there was morning, a fifth day. 24And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. 25And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the cattle according to their kinds, and everything that creeps upon the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 26Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.” 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28And God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the air and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.” 29And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit; you shall have them for food. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every bird of the air, and to everything that creeps on the earth, everything that has the breath of life, I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so. 31And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, a sixth day. 2 1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2And on the seventh day God finished his work which he had done, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done. 3So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it, because on it God rested from all his work which he had done in creation. 4These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created. In the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,


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St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. Be our protection against the wickedness and snares of the devil. May God rebuke him, we humbly pray. And do thou, Prince of the Heavenly Hosts, by the power of God, cast down to Hell Satan and all his evil spirits, who prowl about the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen.

Amen brother.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.


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Valerie Curren

This intriguing video showed up that Might be revealing some type of artificial aspect to the earthquake…HAARP?

This was replying to this tweet, don’t know why it didn’t show

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Valerie Curren

something else interesting (to me) in that twitter conversation


[Sgt. Schultz voice: “I know nothing…nothing!”]

With that disclaimer, here’s something I found. It’s from 2013, so of course things could have changed since then, but it appears to discredit Brooks Agnew.

Brooks Agnew’s Cloud Chamber HAARP Experiment on Joe Rogan’s Question Everything

There is much more before and after this portion, at the link:

Joe [Rogan] started by asking me about the old experiment on YouTube (a segment from TrueTV). I explained that it looked like it was just heating the air, causing the water cloud to rise from convection. He asked me if I thought I replicated HAARP. I told him no, it was just a local effect, and HAARP affected the ionosphere 70 km up.

We talked a bit about what HAARP could do. I said that since it could only heat the ionosphere, then it was not going to affect the weather. Brooks disagreed, saying that HAARP heated the entire column of air above it. I know this to be false, as I’d just been reading about how it’s focused in a very narrow range of altitudes, just a few hundred meters. I explained this, and then Joe asked me how HAARP did this focusing. That was the low point of the interview for me, as I did not actually know – it was something I had been trying to find out that morning. But I muddled though, saying I did not know exactly, but it was done by manipulating the frequencies.

I then started to explain the difference between effective radiating power, input power, and total radiating power (transmitter power). The input power of a transmitter is the power it actually consumes. The TRP is the power it transmits (which depends on how efficient it is, so power will be lost as heat). The effective radiating power (ERP) is a little difficult to explain. But it’s basically the amount of power it can deliver in a particular direction multiplied by the number of directions. Since the HAARP beam is tightly focused, then the ratio of HAARP’s actual transmitter power (3.6 Megawatts) to ERP (5.1 Gigawatts, or 5,100 Megawatts) is very high. This is very important when discussing the HAARP issue, as the two figures are often confused. Suggesting that HAARP is a 5.1 gigawatt transmitter is like saying it’s blasting the entire output of a large nuclear power station into space. It’s not. HAARP uses (and broadcast) a relatively small amount of power, which it actually generates on site from four 2.5 MW diesel generators (10MW potential input power, but the transmitters operate only at 45% efficiency, and additional power is subtracted for other equipment such as cooling and low level amplifiers).

Valerie Curren

Thx TT, that is interesting. I hope Steve might have mercy on us & expound in his (somewhat) understandable ways…w/ diagrams 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA


This is such a load of bullcrap I don’t know where to begin.


I wish there was some way to have a definitive answer. Any source I can think of that might discredit the HAARP theories would itself be pooh-poohed as government propaganda or the like. So there is no way to debunk these kinds of things that I know of.


It’s a bunch of pseudo-technical terms flung about more-or-less at random. It isn’t rational, so it can’t really be addressed rationally.


But can the question of whether HAARP can be used to manipulate the weather be addressed? Specifically, can HAARP be used to cause an earthquake or steer a hurricane? I remember discussion here before about hurricanes and the incredible amount of force it would take to move one off its natural course — in other words, impossible.

  1. Earthquakes aren’t weather.
  2. Hurricanes have a LOT of energy (see ). Let’s say you had a convenient extra Hoover Dam laying around somewhere and could apply it to steering the hurricane….how far would you expect to get?

Yes, I lumped two different kinds of phenomena together.

If you know of any evidence that debunks the idea that HAARP can be used to cause earthquakes, it could be useful, because certain quarters of the internet are buzzing with *They* used HAARP to cause the earthquakes in Turkey.


As I mentioned before, humans can and do contribute to earthquakes — but it requires a certain amount of infrastructure. They’re making HAARP out to be some sort of magic boogaloo ray that does anything they want done. It’s about as scientific as sacrificing virgins.

See if they can disprove — *They* used virgin sacrifices to cause the earthquakes in Turkey.


Okay, next time it comes up (probably in a few hours), I’ll be sure to ask. 😅


If you can get the group split into “hey, man — *They* used HAARP to do earthquakes….” and “no, dude, that’s not how to do earthquakes — *They* used virgin sacrifices to do the earthquakes….” factions, then you can just sit back and watch.

Valerie Curren

Popcorn not Corn Pop!


The first patent for HAARP came out in 1987. The military abandoned the program starting in 2013. The tech is old enough that it’s applications have likely migrated to other fields of science and tech. Personally I’d look into those other fields such as signals tech and satellites and know that whatever we can glean from there are only what we are allowed to know. This is clearly a speculation game.


If this is real would we not do earth quakes in Russia? I mean it is easier than going to war?
Same if we had rule over weather we easy could create bad weather on all our foes.


IF it HAARP wre real AND DePop the goal, THEN…

  • Take out NYC, Chicago, Frisco, LA, Miami, Houston, Mexico City, Tokyo, Yokohama, Shanghai, Beijing, Manila, London, Paris,…EVERY CITY over One Million.

WaLa…DePop on steroids.

Don’t need some dumbass Covidiocy to initiate DePop.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Houston?!?? Muh!😰


The time from science fiction to science fact used to be a generation. That has shrunk now to perhaps even months.


Can’t preserve infrastructure via depop by earthquake.


My guess is NOT a concern, destroying large cities.

Infrastructure required for 500M, far shy of 7,500M.

Plenty of infrastructure in smaller cities, country side.

Valerie Curren

or hurricane




Russia was one of the first countries to sign on the weather modification treaties. They are likely well aware of the tech they were facing and have likely developed their own tech just like they have with keeping up in the nuke field all these many years.

So basically suggesting that you don’t poke the bear when the bear can poke you back.


True never poke the bear . To bad we do.


We had something that caused a MOUNTAIN to implode in NK, AND cause the attached military base to slide into the sea. Hint it was NOT a “collapse” from underground testing.


Rods of God.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That would be my guess.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

I ❤ MOABs!!




Wow did not know that


Nikola Tesla once claimed to have invented a small device that was able to find the resonating frequency of an object. He once claimed that the device, about the size of a radio, got stuck on and was causing Manhattan island to vibrate. When the police entered, he was destroying the device with a hammer.

Now, NOT saying that HAARP or anything else is capable of causing an earthquake, however, harmonics and resonating frequencies HAVE brought down things like the Tacoma Narrows bridge. (wind caused the bridge to resonate and then violently tear itself asunder)

No telling What devices like or even PERHAPS even Tesla’s own device, have been prostituted to evil deeds by evil men. Remember, Tesla’s papers were siezed by the US govt on the day of his death, and Tesla was really the father of our modern technology.

Everything from radio, wireless, infrared, radar, florescent lights, AC power, to the electric motor were DIRECTLY from his genius.

Fun fact, John Trump, yes DJT’s uncle was the researcher who supposedly received at least some of Tesla’s papers,

Again not saying what has been said is actually true, just saying there are MANY things possible we just don’t know (yet) and they could be controlled by evil men now.


“Earthquakes aren’t weather.”

Thank you!!!!! I rolled my eyes at the attempt to extend HAARP theories to yesterday’s disaster.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The only hope for technology within our reach touching big stuff is initiation, IMO. THAT is mostly a function of information. The Chinese get this. Example – spoof a satellite, wreck a ship.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If one can understand how to nurse hurricanes at their initiation, one can maximize the number – just like one can make people have triplets and quadruplets by fertility measures. Likewise, if one can kill hurricanes when they’re tiny storm cells, one could force a large-scale change in weather, just as if the planet itself had changed.

But once they’re big, there is no hope. The energy is phenomenal. Even small fronts in storms are massive and like nuclear weapons in their energy.


Sort of an intentional butterfly effect. The problem, of course, is that feeding a tropical depression in the tropical Atlantic might help it turn into a hurricane (or not), but God alone knows where it will end up when it’s a tiny thing way back by Africa.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I imagine this is all future science and technology, involving massive amounts of information AND energy forms we don’t have currently. And I’m not exactly sure how long it will be before such thinking tempts us. I mean, it may literally be economical to place hurricane prevention stations in Africa, and pump many billions of dollars into running them. We simply don’t know enough yet, IMO.


We don’t know what we don’t know. look at the leaps in technology since just 1970 or 1980. these leaps are JUST in things we KNOW Imagine what we DON’T know yet.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I keep haaaarping  😉  on Roswell and the importance of that event, in setting into motion a variety of technical initiatives. If what I’m seeing is correct, it was the understanding from Tesla and Marconi paralleling nuclear in the 20s and 30s that brought attention and the 1941 crash, which prepared us with radar to cause the two 1947 crashes, netting all that working technology, giving rise to enormous changes in multiple directions. The way to understand what’s actually real and under wraps, from what is disinformation, is that it still has to obey basics of physics. It cannot contradict basic laws, particularly conservation laws. Things can change and generalize somewhat, but insane stuff just doesn’t happen without root permissions and capabilities outside the sandbox.

Thus, some of the stuff is just chaff and disinformation, and the most likely candidates for that are the “magical” stuff. Conservation of energy rules out a lot of chaff and garbahzhe.


“a tiny thing way back in Africa”
How often as kid did we hear about desert winds from the Saraha beginning to blow into the Atlantic and know it was the start of Hurricane season just by those stories?

Then recently those stories have largely stopped along with the aggressive hurricane seasons. Seems like they are already doing the butterfly effect thing, but how would we know?
We don’t. We can only speculate.


…aggressive hurricane seasons…

I really missed something here.

Usually, I read NOAA or some dip shit government entity forecasting XX hurricanes. ONLY to fall short.


“How often as a kid…”

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Not my tale to tell. Please, do tell…


I suspect we don’t hear those stories anymore because real knowledge about nature has been supplanted with “climate change,” and it is the focus now.




NOAA puts out BS WAGS every year, ## hurricanes guessed, ## mjor hurricanes guessed.

Betcha they also come with Global Warming, Climate Change BS.


Chaos theory, a butterfly in Africa flaps its wings…etc.

Valerie Curren

Wasn’t Zika, iirc, blamed on Saharan sands or something?

Gail Combs

wolf I have am article that was supposed to come out a couple days ago and a new one I just wrote. Can you see that they get released? (Not on the same day of course.

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Did you see my announcement a couple of days ago? I’m no longer doing edits in a timely fashion. If you’re OK with “weeks later”, then no problem.


I do not know anything but my husband when I ask him “if weather can be manipulated ?” he said “no”.
He has a good scientific background and has worked 26 years in Aircraft industry and has been on many military bases also in California. I say that because he has had much interaction with Airbases and industry. Still now he is active in professional societies. Something would have come up in conversation unless it is top secret he would not tell me  🙄 


Weather cannot be CONTROLLED, but implemented and manipulated, well that is an entire different subject. Remember seeding clouds with silver iodine to “induce” rain? That is indeed weather manipulation. I have little doubt that they can somehow influence weather fronts, controlling to a pinpoint? No, not yet.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I always believe there is a way to debunk this stuff, but I have chosen not to deal with HAARP. Flat earth, COVID crazy, and certain other things are my specialty. I leave HAARP for others.  😉 


A specialist. 😊 Besides, there are too many to deal with. I selfishly just want it to stop. 😔

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Leave proof of our dedication to truth! I am sure it pisses off the enemy!

Valerie Curren

We shall know the Truth & the Truth will set us free!

We all Know Who the Truth is!

We don’t follow the Father of Lies nor his minions…

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 I selfishly just want it to stop.

^^^ HAARP? IGNORE it. Scroll on.

Folks don’t feed it, (ignore it). It’ll Go Away. Scroll On.

THIS is not science. (Scrolling on.) 🙂


IF HAARP has something to do with frequency, resonance, or EMF, then I could theoretically see manipulations of such to adverse results. Control, especially pinpoint control, not likely…yet. Look up Tesla, specifically his work on EMF, frequency, and resonance. IF one could obtain the resonating frequency of an object, one could make it vibrate, even shatter. Remember the Memorex commercial and the crystal glass?

Not saying this is what is happening, but it IS theoretically possible, though control would be difficult and DANGEROUS.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Again, the broken glass is energy – not magic. One of the problems with the disinformation mythos created around Tesla is the idea of “magic energy” that can be spilled out of nowhere at will. Sourceless, infinite, and the key behind 1001 grifts, IMO. A perpetual motion machine with a new maguffin to power it.

Tesla was keen on energy transfer via electromagnetics, and that is essentially what we have now, since power transmission lines are really that, but people are asked to believe in something more, that allows us to control massive forces without corresponding energy, and I’m just not buying it with out a tabletop demonstration or simple real life example.

TL;DR – yes, resonance is a thing, and so is the energy input into it. No magic energy allowed.

Gail Combs

yes, resonance is a thing…

I remember a discussion of [looking for?] methods for setting off small quakes in order to keep big quakes from happening

Richard B. Stothers
Journal of Geophysical Research (Impact Factor: 3.17). 01/1990; DOI:10.1029/

The historical record of large volcanic eruptions from 1500 to 1980, as contained in two recent catalogs, is subjected to detailed time series analysis. Two weak, but probably statistically significant, periodicities of ~11 and ~80 years are detected. Both cycles appear to correlate with well-known cycles of solar activity; the phasing is such that the frequency of volcanic eruptions increases (decreases) slightly around the times of solar minimum (maximum). The weak quasi-biennial solar cycle is not obviously seen in the eruption data, nor are the two slow lunar tidal cycles of 8.85 and 18.6 years. Time series analysis of the volcanogenic acidities in a deep ice core from Greenland, covering the years 553-1972, reveals several very long periods ranging from ~80 to ~350 years and are similar to the very slow solar cycles previously detected in auroral and carbon 14 records. Solar flares are believed to cause changes in atmospheric circulation patterns that abruptly alter the earth’s spin. The resulting jolt probably triggers small earthquakes which may temporarily relieve some of the stress in volcanic magma chambers, thereby weakening, postponing, or even aborting imminent large eruptions. In addition, decreased atmospheric precipitation around the years of solar maximum may cause a relative deficit of phreatomagmatic eruptions at those times.


zephyrbreeze says:
June 20, 2018 at 6:59 pm

This was in a Q&A by the Secretary of Defense William Cohen in 1997 – 20 years ago – about what worries him:

Q: Let me ask you specifically about last week’s scare here in Washington, and what we might have learned from how prepared we are to deal with that (inaudible), at B’nai Brith.

“A: Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we’ve learned in the intelligence community, we had something called — and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.

“So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It’s real, and that’s the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that’s why this is so important.”

That was 20 years ago…

This was recorded in Hawaii April 4, 2018, and there are multiple recordings on youtube by others at this time.

Valerie Curren

Fascinating. Thanks for bringing the sauce!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Note also, though that he talks about the dangers of PHANTOM things – meaning things that are NOT TRUE – like his phantom mole example.

A perfect prediction of the power of disinformation now.

Valerie Curren

What about that “dustification” video posted here on/around 9/11 last year? “They” posited some type of presumably energy “weapon” capable of bringing down the Twin Towers. I thought the female professor discussing the situation seemed quite credible…Of course these things are way outside my “expertise”, just within my vague recollection…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

“Seeming” credible makes no difference to me. The science needs to be credible.

I can dustify the building with a few tons of RDX, laid in as electrical cord.

Valerie Curren

Well there were several videos within the video that apparently demonstrated the mechanism. If you haven’t watched it yet you might consider checking it out…

I believe that video is w/in your comment here:

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September 13, 2022 06:09
This is probably one of the best videos about “directed energy” and other alternate theories of the demolition (explaining why the demolition itself was so unusual in various ways).



Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL! Obviously I did watch it, because that was behind my advancing what I considered a better theory for the same problems she observed.

I have no idea why she didn’t understand that common explosives would explain “dustification” better than a more speculative theory – particularly when that theory requires all sorts of extra explanations that simple explosives – the normal method of demolition – do not.

To me, the total answer of a large government-backed operation to demolish the buildings and to WEAPONIZE that demolition back at (roughly) the same terrorists who had damaged the buildings – it just fits. I totally get the motivation, but it violates so many fundamentals, that I simply can’t go along with such an idea, as attractive as it may have been.

Valerie Curren

I was thinking more along the lines of an “energy weapon” given the extensive HAARP discussion. You seem to be applying an Occam’s Razor perspective, which is reasonable given the unabated government corruption that ubiquitously stenchifies our existence!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

As you know, I love Occam’s razor, but only when it has been corrected for bias, deception, and limited understanding of plausible technology used by others trying to deceive. It gets complicated. Particularly by the fact that the other side tries to deceive us about their deception. 😉

Valerie Curren


SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That is the problem with this sort of thing. It’s fundamentally unfalsifiable to those ignorant of the science, because any attempt at a debunk is simply deemed part of the coverup. Albert Fricking Einstein could say it’s wrong…and they’ll just claim he was bought off.

So there’s no way to prove it wrong to them.


That’s the frustrating part. Yes, we need to speak truth, but if people won’t hear it, there is no observable benefit. I can only hope some who read will pay attention.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

IMHO, it’s all of the devil…….The weight of sin (piling up) on the world. Individuals, nations, the earth feels the heaviness.

Isaiah 24:20
Amplified Bible (other translations says the earth trembles)
The earth reels back and forth like a drunkard And sways like a shack; Its transgression lies heavily upon it, And it will fall and not rise again.

What does it mean that all creation groans (Romans 8:22)? |

Because of the fall of man, every part of God’s creation was subjected to a curse (Romans 8:20). Under that curse, all creation groans: the ground was cursed for Adam’s sake, thorns and thistles and noxious weeds began to grow, all of Eve’s daughters have labored painfully in childbirth, and death entered the world (Genesis 3:14–19).

God created perfect life on earth for man. That all changed after the apple. Rain storms are natural, created for good, but Satan whips them up into danger and destruction.
Jesus knew. He spoke to the storm meant for harm, ‘Peace, BE STILL’. I follow his example and always speak to the storms. I command them to dissipate quickly and do no hurt, harm or danger to me, my property or my neighbors. Prayers always work.

When I worked at the church for 6 years taking care of over 30 flower beds of various sizes, I saw some amazing things. I had flowers EVERYWHERE, the plants would get so YUGE, not die, multiply, persistently return, endure/thrive out of season. Been a gardener all my life, never seen anything like it. I lived 5 miles away and couldn’t get the same results at home. At the church I spent long days working, playing praise and worship music, singing, and praying. It made a big difference, the plants loved to worshp the Lord.
The compliments were non-stop. Whatever I grew there multiplied like crazy.
Since I left, I’ve driven by a few times. Looks like they have a landscaper install seasonal flowers, they don’t last very long. The grounds have never returned to their former glory.

All of creation yearns for the return of the Lord. 🙏🙏🙏

Gail Combs


Storms have a tremendous amount of power.
I wish I could find the story of the Jet pilot in North carolina that ejected and fell — sort of through a thunderstorm. Actually he got tossed back up for a long time before he finally reached an altitude where he could open his shoot.

Here is a different story.


In Argentina in the very late 1960′s or early 1970′s an airline pilot who was also a glider pilot believed he could get one of World Gliding’s then most prestigious Diamond badges [ there are three of these badges each for a different accomplishment, ie 300 km triangle, 500 km distance and a Gain of Height of 5000 metres [ 16404 feet ] to make up the Three Diamond badge. In the 1960′s and early 1970′s with the then performance of the gliders it was a very considerable accomplishment to achieve the 3 Diamond Badge. My own 3 Diamond Badge completed in 1968 is numbered as International FAI No 994 ] by climbing inside of a developing Cumulo nimbus thunder storm overhead of his gliding field.

He was flying an all metal two seat Czech built Blanik glider but carried no oxygen.

 He was Argentinian after all and why would any Argentinian macho male need oxygen to climb to 25,000 feet?

 He was seen to enter the base of the thunderstorm at 3000 feet and then some time later seen to come out of the side of the cloud at a very high altitude.

 Some short time later he was found very badly injured and still strapped in the crashed glider in a near bye field.

The all metal Blanik aircraft’s fuselage had been twisted through about 45 degrees.

 Both wings were broken off just inboard of the ailerons

 One side of the rear elevator was broken and gone and the other side severely damaged.

 The pilot was alive but badly injured but he eventually recovered.

He remembered doing about 6 turns on instruments [ He was a trained airline pilot ] after entering the cloud base and inside of the thunderstorm’s developing lift cell before blacking out from lack of oxygen as he remembered passing through 26,000 feet. 

His barograph recording instrument which in those days [ done electronically today ] recorded the time and the heights reached on a smoked trace said that he had reached 46,000 feet inside of that thunderstorm, a then world record height .

 However, above 40,000 feet the trace was so badly distorted from some extreme turbulence nearer the top of the thunderstorm which airline pilots flying with in a couple of hundred kilometres around later estimated that its top had reached in excess of 65,000 feet, a King thunderstorm, that the FAI in Paris, the keeper of the World’s Aviation record, only gave him a 40,000 foot climb. 

BUT, his barograph trace showed quite conclusively that the rate of climb inside of that cell of lift of that King thunderstorm and this an uncontrolled glider with an unconscious pilot, reached 8,000 feet per minute rate of climb.

And thats over 146 KPH [ One hundred and forty six ] straight up inside of the lift cell of that thunderstorm.

Valerie Curren

Amazing he lived to tell that tale!

Valerie Curren

Well now I can stop holding my breath!

Is HAARP the bullcrap, or the explanation w/in TT’s Rogan quotes or All of the above…AND logic & all?

I see the word gigawatt & only think of Doc Brown 🙂

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It says here [ ] that the annual generating power of Hoover Dam is 3.3 TWh, or 3300 GigaWatt hours. Since there are 24*365 hours in a year, that’s .377 GigaWatts.

Valerie Curren

Yikes! Thanks 🙂


Although…..we do have a device (not too far from here) that runs about 500 TeraWatts — 500,000 GigaWatts — but only for a couple of picoseconds.

“As of 2010 NIF aimed to create a single 500 terawatt (TW) peak flash of light that reaches the target from numerous directions within a few picoseconds. The design uses 192 beamlines in a parallel system of flashlamp-pumped, neodymium-doped phosphate glass lasers.”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Discussed in my Fusion post…which almost everyone ignored.


Steve, I truly love that you make the science posts. I’m not ignoring them, or you; I simply don’t have the background or intelligence profile to follow them. Give me history, language, the arts, etc., and I excel. Give me science, and I flounder.


I agree with what Aubergine said. I appreciate the posts and do learn from them, but I do not have the background to follow them closely enough to make comments that would in any way make sense. In some cases, I’m reduced to “what a pretty picture,” LOL. I’m glad the posts are archived for reference.


None are ignored here. Some sort of curve likely applies in my case.

Some I learn a lot, if not the entire article. Many I learn some, then it slides to getting the gist of it.gist gets. Some I get lost all to quickly.

But every article, I give it a go. Several a couple readings, to truly “get it”. ALL appreciated.

Valerie Curren

IF things ever settle down I do hope/plan to go back & (re) read All of your science posts at some point 🙂

Valerie Curren


SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

That’s interesting…I took the “dam tour” once and they showed us a view of one of the two “wings” with the generators in it…and told us that we were looking at a whole gigawatt–total 2 GW. Unless my memory is faulty.

Wikipoo claims the installed capacity is 2.080 GW so maybe my /dev/brain block device works better than I thought it did.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Last I heard HAARP was about the weather, not earthquakes.

And it seemed to be largely based on claims that people were cloud seeding in the 1950s therefore they can steer hurricanes today. Which strikes me as dubious at best, charlatanry at worst.

Earthquakes would require a lot more energy to manipulate than hurricanes; you’re dealing with thousands if not millions of cubic miles of rock, not air. With this the pushers of the ‘theory’ haven’t just doubled down, they’ve gone up by at least a factor of a million.


You use a lever to move a rock. Look for the lever and where best to apply it. Meanwhile everything we know about HAARP is at least twenty years in the past. The science and tech has likely advanced and has already migrated into other sciences and technologies that we are not going to have clue about since the original HAARP technologies were met with so much negative press. The only thing I’d agree with is HAARP need not be a focus any more than a seed should be the focus of studying a tree.

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Reissuance? Everything has a frequency. It was what Tesla was using to transmit electric power wirelessly in Denver Co. (Ironically) for about a mile. That was in the 1890’s.

Theoretically, Tesla thought he could “ring” the Earth’s frequency (eventually) and transmit power over vast distances, all wirelessly. He also did lots of work on frequency and resonance. I am sure you know this. Just saying.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And so what?

If I had a nickel for every time someone misused the terms “frequency” and “vibration” for woo woo, I’d be a fricking millionaire.

What in the blazing hell does transmitting electrical energy wirelessly have to do with triggering earthquakes?

Absolutely NOTHING save in the imagination of internet charlatans. One is an electromagnetic wave, the other is a mechanical one in solid matter.

Jesus, I get tired of seeing otherwise intelligent people fall for such crap.


First off, check both your attitude and your ego at the door sparky. We have had THAT discussion before. 2nd of all ever heard of eddy currents and harmonics caused by eddy currents in buildings. Suggest you look it up. Third of all I asked a QUESTION, posted info about what Tesla was into over 130 years ago.

Fourth of all do not assume you are the only one here with science degrees and aptitude.

This is a discussion board. I asked a question assuming you would THINK and not just spew. My mistake.


Many “Scientists” have a God Complex.
It is Not just Dr’s that have this issue. 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA


The guy names himself the King of Prognosticators, but if one dares disagree with him, one has a God Complex?

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Valerie Curren

one has a God Complex?”

Please tell me that as an atheist you see the humor here!  😂 

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

The whole thing would be laughable if it weren’t for the fact that the guy making the accusation weren’t dead serious.

Valerie Curren


I, for one, appreciate your relentless search for factual, reproducible, scientific truth 🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

However, a lot of atheists love ironic humor in this vein. For instance, I’ve seen buttons that read “Thank God I’m An Atheist”

Valerie Curren

Yes. You might have mentioned that before 🙂 I appreciate your viewpoint but still (occasionally) pray that you will see The Light!


True, I have had my share of dealing with both.


Me Too!

Barb Meier

All I know about earthquakes is that I was in Santa Clara when Loma Prieta shook things up and down. It felt like we were land surfing, there felt like small waves moving under my feet. I have read that other earthquakes can make jarring movements but this one was like waves for me. If I was driving a car when one of the smaller ones happened, I did not feel anything. Once I was exiting a gas station and I thought someone must be jumping on the back of my car, making an down/up motion.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Whittier Narrows in LA, 1987, was side to side.

It was also a LOT less severe than Loma Prieta.

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Do you think POTUS knows a lot more about Tesla than anyone imagines?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Honest answer? No. His uncle knew more, but still, I think it’s not that much.

At the time Tesla died, we got 1000 times more “indication of possibility” by the Roswell crashes, than by all of the “dead scientists last secrets” put together, IMO. But Tesla makes a very good maguffin for technological advancement’s explanation.

The real question for me is whether those craft were sent with the knowledge and half-hope of technology transfer. I.e., that the hand behind them was fully prepared for the craft to serve as technological seed – much in the way that others here did the gain of function despite the risks, because they were happy if the technology escaped.


TY 👍🏻


Id say yes, simply because 1 it was his uncle, two Trump is VERY smart, and almost always seems ahead of the curve. Uncanny,

Valerie Curren

count on it!

Valerie Curren

Did you watch that video of the guy claiming the vibrations of a device he had used, he was saying used to expose oil & natural gas they were using like 30 of something, don’t recall the designation? Then he claimed that HAARP was using thousands or tens of thousands of that thing which would cause significantly larger “results”…I have No Idea who that guy is or if his info is valid. That tweet was brought to yesterday’s daily & I was sharing the Japanese imagery that was in reply to it.

I don’t know enough about these topics to know what I “know” & don’t know 🙂

I’m not a scientismist, nor do I play one on TV, & my BS (biomedical chemistry, pre-med) from the ’80’s is woefully out of date, not having worked in such fields…

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Ah, setting off an explosion and “listening” for the echos is a time-honored way to figure out what is down there…It’s analogous to sonar in the ocean (but there are also differences of course, just like with any analogy). Any time sound waves cross a boundary where the density changes, their velocity changes which causes them to refract (and some gets reflected too). (Also analogous to light going through glass.)

Again, nothing to do with causing earthquakes, and this isn’t electromagnetism.

(In fact, this is a large part of the reason we know the earth has mantle, outer core and inner core layers to it…we see how earthquakes propagate. That’s a lot deeper than oil exploration, but then earthquakes are more powerful too..a LOT more powerful…so they travel further.)

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Valerie Curren

Thanks Steve. I’ve seen underground imaging done a number of times on the Curse of Oak Island show. It’s an interesting activity & seems to be open to speculation as to what Exactly is being revealed when such technologies are deployed.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

IIRC–and I might not–because it works off density changes, you might run into a situation where you don’t know which material is there; you just know it bent at a certain depth consistent with a certain change in density. So if there are (say) four different kinds of material of that density under those conditions, it could be any one of those four. What you do know for certain even if that’s the case is how deep the boundary is.

Note that this is basically a shock wave, moving material, not any sort of electromagnetic wave.

Valerie Curren

Yes. In the Oak Island scenario they are forever looking for buried treasure & evidence of the “depositors” & their underground activities. They often unearth the evidence of the century+ of treasure hunter activity instead 🙂


One physics professor’s opinion:
Peddling Pseudo Science

Valerie Curren

I agree with his conclusion:

Once science loses its objectivity and becomes enslaved to any kind of ideology or political opinion, it becomes useless. Quack science does not just cost money. It also confuses people, engages them in bizarre conspiracy theories, and decreases society’s collective ability to make sensible decisions.”

Thanks for sharing 🙂



Valerie Curren



Never trust articles that do not allow comments is a good rule of thumb. By focusing on HAARP the focus is left there. It might need to be elsewhere. Also the article talks about old tech as if everything has stood still for the past twenty and more years.


2013-2015 was when the Govt involvement in HAARP was largely being shuddered because of public unrestfulness. The programs that were already secret were removed elsewhere leaving a relatively beguine HAARP program at the U. of Alaska, Fairbanks in place. The govt obviously learned some lessons in keeping what they wished secret even more secret and likely drove research and experimentation even deeper from the publics view.

The project was shuttered by the military in 2013 after attracting large amounts of negative publicity, though HAARP-like research undoubtedly continues in other secret projects. This essay reveals major deception promulgated by those involved to lead the public to believe HAARP was simply a research facility with little practical military value.

Though denied by HAARP project officials, some respected researchers allege that the electromagnetic warfare capabilities of the project were designed to forward the US military’s stated goal of achieving “Full-spectrum Dominance” by the year 2020 and of “Owning the Weather in 2025” (see USAF document summary here). Others go so far as to claim that HAARP technologies have been and continue to be used for weather control, to cause earthquakes, hurricanes, tsunamis, to disrupt global communications systems, and more.

These researchers point to major aspects of the program which are still kept secret for alleged reasons of “national security.” The U.S. patent of a key developer of HAARP and other documentary evidence support these claims. And there is no doubt that electromagnetic weapons capable of being used in warfare do exist. The HAARP project’s $300 million price tag also suggests more was going on than meets the eye.

There’s more in the article to include information on the original patent filed in 1987.

…A 1987 patent issued to Dr. Eastlund is titled “Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth’s atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere.” …

Then the article goes on describing what the this Brooks guy is trying to describe. Which essentially amounts to outdated information from which he doesn’t appear to have a full grasp of.

I’d leave this by saying HAARP is not the point. Science and Tech in all fields from computing, signals technology, bio and nano tech and so much more have advanced in ways we haven’t a clue of as much of it is off the books especially when it’s duel use technology (mil/civ). Personally HAARP is old enough where it’s science and tech has likely merged into other applied fields such as satellite technologies. Whatever they are doing and whatever their capabilities are we can only speculate. What we do know is that the people with the secrets are now controlled by the Bidense types and it should all come into question and not simply be dismissed as tin hat conspiracy theories because we don’t have the time or inclination to investigate it.


Butterfly slid me the bong last evening. Thank you. Didn’t help.

Slow guys assessment. NONSENSE. Scrolling on…

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎




Valerie Curren

You’re very likely correct! Love your abbreviated assessments, which are Anything but slow 😉

Valerie Curren

Thanks DP. I guess the original tweet’s video is just so much bull schiff!


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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Love those “characters” – SO TRUE.

Angry Old Man, Whispering Perv, Smug Mode!

He forgot Crazy Storyteller (Fake Trump Spiel Mode) which produced the whole Corn Pop mythos!  😂 

And then there’s Leering Call-out Pedo featuring WTF Jaw-Droppers! That’s always a good one. “She was ten!”  😂   😆   😅 


“Hairy legs”

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!! Yup!


Breaking News: Matt Gaetz @mattgaetz

and Lauren Boebert @laurenboebert

confirm Speaker McCarthy @SpeakerMcCarthy

has agreed to release all of the Jan 6 footage.

How about now? Maybe after the SOTU address. It needs to be at a time when the media doesn’t know it’s coming and when it can get good attention from the new media, if possible.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent news!


Just Fucking release The j^ Tapes.

Slow guy thought they said, J6 tapes would be released, back in early January.

Now, early February, they say they’ll release the J6 tapes.



Yeah, I’m with you. It irritates the piss outta me.

“We’ll release the tapes.”

“We’re gonna release the tapes.”

“Soon, we’re going to release the tapes.”

“We can confirm, the tapes will be released.”



“We’re going to tapes the release.”

Same words; different assembly.


March is only three weeks away… Another word assembly at that time.


Jonathan Turley:
Congress is Set to Expose What May be the Largest Censorship System in U.S. History

On government colluding with social media to suppress speech:

Some apologists continue to defend this process, saying the FBI was only objecting to disinformation the way that citizens did on Twitter. That is not true; the government reportedly used back channels and regular meetings to flag unacceptable statements. Indeed, even if it were true, many things are more dangerous when done by government. When your neighbor attacks your opinion, it is just the crank next door. But when it is your government on the attack, it is far more threatening and stigmatizing.

Even if this operation did not cross the constitutional line, there are ample reasons why a democracy does not want the government in the business of targeting those whom it views as misleading or misinforming the public. While the FBI has every reason to pursue criminal fraud, this operation appears to have targeted speech it deemed harmful to political or social discourse.

…We do not know the full extent of this operation or its impact, but Congress should want to know if the FBI and other agencies created a system of censorship-by-surrogate. The only reason we now have Twitter’s previously secret communications is because an eccentric billionaire bought the company.

The broader effort with other companies could well constitute the largest censorship program ever run by the government — a system designed to escape both public and judicial scrutiny. It also shows how it is no longer necessary to have a “Ministry of Information” to maintain a state media: You can have an effective state media by consent rather than by coercion or control.

The FBI’s response to disclosure of these long-secret communications is particularly chilling. When some critics denounced it as raw censorship, the FBI accused them of being “conspiracy theorists … feeding the American public misinformation.” So, criticism of the FBI’s work to censor citizens resulted in an official statement denouncing those citizens…

Side note: Just as Trump articles have to include negative adjectives about him, apparently Elon Musk can’t be described as just a billionaire; it has to be “eccentric billionaire.” I greatly respect Turley’s work and just found that interesting.


the FBI was only objecting to disinformation the way that citizens did on Twitter”

OH, so private citizens were paying Twitter $3.5M to continue to censor tweets?

This isn’t even eye-roll worthy.


Yes, the excuses are ridiculous.


“Eccentric billionaire” is a label caused by FEAR.

They call him that because he has such a huge platform, and he could use it to do things they wouldn’t like. So they have to “pre-discredit” him.


If Congress is set to expose it, we can be sure that, if it actually happens, it’s only because they’re trying to get out ahead of something that was going to expose them anyway.



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Then call in a strike on your own HQ, you dumbazz.


“We’ll call for action from everywhere with influence on the spread of ‘mis- and disinformation’ on the Internet.”


It’s an insane objective, and they *&^% well know it, just using it as a pretense to censor everything they don’t like, which everybody also knows.

If you have 7+ billion people on the Internet, you can’t ‘fact check’ every person in the world in real time, and even if you could, who checks the idiots hired as ‘fact checkers’?

And that’s even if the gov’t was trying to do something good, which it never is, never has and never will, it’s just an excuse to CONTROL.

Somebody should put this @#*&head in a cell, tell him when to eat, when to sleep, when to defecate, when to pay (and how much) for his cell, what he can wear, what he can’t wear, whether he has to put on a mask, get a jab in the arm, etc.

Let this scum-sucking POS learn what it’s like to be on the receiving end of all his bullsh!t. And let him learn it for a GOOD LONG TIME.

Do the same for every POS in a position of leadership in the world.

If you’re in leadership, then by definition, you need remedial training, or you wouldn’t be in a position of leadership.


TT, this is just more brick laying by the UN chief. Over the past several years more and more sound bites emphasizing the scourge of “mis-information and disinformation” have been populating the public square. These operations are focusing on the internet, the last largely unregulated soapbox available to grassroots factions. The purpose is to desensitize the citizens of the world and to attract their cooperation in placing greater and greater restrictions on internet usage by the “common folk”. It will ultimately become a matter of national security. Disinformation is just another word for propaganda. Propaganda is a legitimate tool of the state but in the hands of the average citizen it can cause great harm. The solution of course is to place the internet in the hands of governments and approved corporations with tight controls (another word for censor) over what information may be permitted. Some people forget that these elites are playing a long game and they most often choose gradual persuasion over the dictatorial. The general agreement of the public is always an important aspect of their campaign.


True. And they are openly coming after our First Amendment.


I am so grateful that I am a cranky contrarian.

It saved me from enduring this sort of crap.


Common sense will do that to ya… Thankfully, many or most here, are like that.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

So are they going to clear out her entire circulatory system or just her legs?

How does she know they aren’t also elsewhere? Is there a scan capable of showing this?

And what if they come back?


Yeah, no kidding.


All good questions that it seems too early to have answers to. I suppose time will tell. If that were someone in my family, I’d be demanding more tests, ASAP. If this starts happening more, then the medical profession will have to be more forthcoming and MAYBE face what the actual cause is…unless they want us to believe it was caused by climate change or something she ate or HAARP (couldn’t resist) or exercising too much or other nonsense.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Or the earth being flat. You forgot that.


We ALL know that HAARP is REAL, but it ONLY works on “Flat Earths”!


I’m dying here.  😂  😅  😂 



bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Least invasive –
D-dimer blood test
To locate a blood clot, a physician may need to use three different methods: ultrasound to check the carotid arteries or legs, magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) to scan the heart and computed tomography to view the lungs

Friend w/blocked carotid had blood, MRI and heart ultrasound in hospital. Then Dr. office tests – stress test, and ultrasound legs. Stress test followed up w/invasive angiogram at hospital.

After arteries all checked, they move on to veins.



About to Die Suddenly.


I have not researched this; just something to bear in mind regarding DeSantis. Maybe he’ll make a statement about it.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



Not clear who or what capitulated.


I thought DeSantis had removed Disney’s tax breaks, but it looks as if Disney got them back. I’m not sure.


They remove it when the cameras are on, and put it back as soon as the cameras are off.


Guessing Disney, or whatever owns Disney, IS donating big time to DeSantis.


And the RNC has wet dreams of putting DeSantis up as the 2024 “Republican” Presidential or VP nominee, right?


Trump / Lake. <<< There’s a motivating pair.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

That’s what I sooo wanna see. He can turn her loose on swamp cleanup. Unlike Pence she’d actually whip the place into shape. Then she’d be set to be 1st woman Prez in 2028 using her next 8 years to rid the sewage once and for all!!

They’re floating her as 3rd candidate for AZ Senate against Sinema and another. If she doesn’t win in court, AZ voting will stay f’d up, they’ll never let her win. The Nation needs her.


Lake is too good for Arizona. They botched the election and related court cases.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

She’s too good for the shitstains in the government.

But I don’t think she’s too good for the people there, who more than likely did vote more for her than for that sack of garbage she was running against.

Gail Combs

  :wpds_beg:   :wpds_cool: 


It’s starting to seem that way. It will be interesting to watch. I think that DeSantis running against Trump would be political suicide, so we will see how invested he is in the RINO agenda.


DeSantis is NOT what people think he is. And that’s all I’m going to say about that!


More evidence is coming out over time, and it’s good that it’s happening now. I didn’t want to see the constant negative drum beat before the FL governor election in November because I think we need to keep DeSantis there rather than someone less conservative. But now let the games begin.








Desanctimonious is owned by the billionaire-class.

As far as I can tell, the one thing that separates DJT from every other candidate is he doesn’t need anyone’s money, so he can’t be bought.

It is exactly that financial INDEPENDENCE which makes him uncontrollable.

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Milley’s sponsors same as BiteMe’s.


Gen. Milley, sponsored by the color pink, Spandex and Big Jack’s Lube Emporium.


They trot out stories that are lies and then retract them because sheeple only go on headlines. It’s all they can remember because they have been trained to be ADD.


The folks you referenced never hear or recall any retraction. 🙄


I’ll add that TPTB do a good job of hiding retractions and corrections.


Yes, for sure.


The following is from the email list for the North Texas chapter of Braver Angels . . .

Braver Angels of North Texas – We need your ideas!

Our next lunch discussion meeting will be Monday February 27th, and we’ll vote to choose the topic.

If you would like to suggest ideas to be included in the lunch discussion voting list, please send them to:

(contact info redacted) by Sunday, February 12th.
After that we’ll send out a poll so that everyone can vote.
For inspiration….here are some ideas that have been submitted so far:

  • Do you feel there need to be changes to the Electoral College system? Why or why not?
  • What should be done about gerrymandering?
  • How should forums like Twitter and Facebook balance respecting free speech with restricting objectionable information?
  • What should the criteria be to allow legal immigrants into the US?
  • What should be done about illegal immigration at the southern border?
  • Can voting by mail be done securely? If so, how?
  • Should people be allowed to provide transportation to voting polls and water/food at polls? Should polls be allowed to be open overnight and on weekends? Why or why not?
  • What should the criteria be to determine whether issues be legislated at the national vs. state level?
  • Should we implement term limits? If so, what should the limits be?
  • Where do you get your news and why do you choose these sources?
  • A Chinese high-altitude balloon is hovering over U.S. territory. What steps should be taken by the government to deal with this intrusion on US airspace? (This one may need to be modified in light of recent and ongoing occurrences….)

We hope to see you Monday Feb 27 noon!


I haven’t attended one of these meetups – they are not convenient for work unless I take a two hour lunch.

In general I think the org is a well-meaning org that aims to depolarize conversation . . .

The major problem being is that the news media does not provide a common frame of reference for alignment.

Or put another way: It’s information warfare, and the fake news is a propaganda machines in service of lies – if you don’t recognize it, you’re a programmed part of the system.

What questions would you ask?

What responses would you give?

Just tossing that out there

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m not seeing anything about grooming or indoctrination of kids. Need some questions there.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Hot potatoes, but top of the list for parents.


Yeah, it’d be nuts to watch someone defending school districts paying drag queens to give performances to schools without notifying parents in the carefully-worded permission slips.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Egads. UGH!!!


From the website:

We are equally balanced between conservatives and progressives at every level of leadership.

I guess I’m not a candidate for their group because I believe progressives are enemies of America and you can’t “reach across the aisle” to your enemies; instead, they must be defeated. So a “well-meaning org that aims to depolarize conversation” is a hard no for me. 😎

If you are heartsick about the rancor tearing our country apart

No, I’m not heartsick about it. This is how people take digs at Trump. “He’s divisive,” etc. I want more of it. 😊

If you believe that your opponents should not be your enemies


Join our legion of Americans who believe that the fight to save our nation begins with a ceasefire among ourselves.

Sorry, but no. A ceasefire results in capitulation to unconstitutional, unAmerican principles. It is a euphemism for “compromise.”

In all seriousness, I bet you could provide an effective voice, though.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s why there’s nothing about TRANS or GROOMERS on there.




Yeah, God forbid they call out the perverts.


Yeah, I don’t give a shit about anyone’s “feelings,” and I don’t care to associate myself with perverts to placate progressives.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yeah, I don’t give a shit about anyone’s “feelings,”

A statement that proves itself! 😀


Well, you know, at least I’m honest!


The only real reason a progressive will come to meeting such as these is to sell their viewpoints, not seriously reconsider the viewpoints of others. Pointless exercise except for the progressives who will seek to find the weaknesses of the conservatives. They will attempt to steer the discussions. If they don’t get their way they will stop coming.


They also could be spying.


This is an oddball story, that’s hopefully only of local interest.

At the same time I’m wondering what is the driver for this individual. Some kind of psychological disturbance, or someone caught up in a criminal network and acting like an amateur?

What the Heck Is Going On at the Dallas Zoo?After a leopard escape, the suspicious death of a vulture, and the theft of two monkeys, Texans are anxiously awaiting an explanation.
By Rose Cahalan
January 31, 2023

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Infiltration by an activist, IMO.

Gail Combs

BTDT and caught them in the act.

If they can not release the animal THEY WILL INJURE OR KILL IT! I have the vet bill to prove that statement.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OK – this is important. I’m going to put up a separate post about this, so people have a link, and you can dump comments into it. Should be up in the hour.

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎MEGA MAGA GAME ON😎

Good thing they caught him, as he was going to keep doing it. Do they know for sure if he killed the hawk?


The Political Became Very Personal
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The scars that have been left on all of us by the response to COVID are incomprehensibly varied and deep. For most, there hasn’t been enough time to mentally process the significance of the initial lockdowns, let alone the years-long slog of mandates, terror, propaganda, social stigmatization and censorship that followed. And this psychological trauma affects us in myriad ways that leave us wondering what it is about life that just feels so off versus how it felt in 2019.

For those who were following the real data, the statistics were always horrifying. Trillions of dollars rapidly transferred from the world’s poorest to the richest. Hundreds of millions hungry. Countless years of educational attainment lost. An entire generation of children and adolescents robbed of some of their brightest years. A mental health crisis affecting more than a quarter of the population. Drug overdoses. Hospital abuse. Elder abuse. Domestic abuse. Millions of excess deaths among young people which couldn’t be attributed to the virus.

But underneath these statistics lie billions of individual human stories, each unique in its details and perspectives. These individual stories and anecdotes are only just beginning to surface, and I believe that hearing them is a vital step in processing everything that we’ve experienced over the past three years.

I recently sent out a query on Twitter as to how people had been affected by the response to COVID at an individual level. The conversation that emerged is a luminating and haunting reflection of what each of us experienced over the past three years. Below is a tiny selection of the responses that I found especially powerful.

Specifically, the query was: “Which aspect of the response to COVID affected you most at a personal level?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Excellent. This is getting a lot of attention.


Our family is very blessed. We were able to weather the storm of COVID with a minimum of collateral damage. We even picked up a few new family traditions, such as ordering drive-through or take-out and eating picnic-style with our camp chairs in a local park. Talking with my kids, they’ve handled it incredibly well and are none the worse for wear.

WE ARE THE LUCKY ONES. . . and reading through these and SO MANY OTHER survivor stories, some read more like dark comedy and some are darkly filled with hopelessness. It makes me angry how people let this happen. How it divided people. And how many people were severely harmed – psychologically through this horrorshow, but medically, financially, socially, in families, in marriages, in careers, in academic achievement, becoming ostracized from friends and society, and the shocking impacts on children from their friends, schools, forced distancing, masking, and living with powerful people in their lives and their hypocrisy “Now Johnny you have to wear a mask because you need to help keep me from getting ill . . .”

And these same assholes and karens want us to just forget everything that they did and went on? And grant them a pandemic amnesty?

In my mind, having survived it my experience has a way of trivializing what I experienced in hindsight. But if I had talked about everything that was about to happen at the beginning, the total effects of being a conscripted combatant in the information wars, I would’ve had a breakdown. I’m not a G.I. veteran and don’t want to compare myself to the generation that fought WWII, but it seems clear to me why coming back from Europe and the Pacific that the G.I.’s simply didn’t talk about what they saw and what they experienced. Some of it could only be understood by being there, as a veteran.

No. After seeing lockdown camps and medical experimentation gone awry and tyrannical authoritarian zealots and the callous inhumanity of it all, and the unconscionable acts committed against children. . .

Sorry folks, the pandemic amnesty has been canceled.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. COVID Nazism must die.


“I’m not a G.I. veteran and don’t want to compare myself to the generation that fought WWII, but it seems clear to me why coming back from Europe and the Pacific that the G.I.’s simply didn’t talk about what they saw and what they experienced. Some of it could only be understood by being there, as a veteran.”

A good description of my former POW father-in-law and to a degree, my veteran father.

I agree. I want open acknowledgment of their sins and repentance via their open personal support of changing the laws via Constitutional amendment as necessary that includes enforcement provisions of same such that none of this medical nazism can happen ever again in this nation.

Until then, nope, no amnesty.


Not enough.

Prison, take away wealth…

Assholes gotta pay big time.

Gail Combs

You are being very very nice. THOUSANDS IF NOT MILLIONS DIED and WILL DIE!

That is NOT a prison sentence in my book except for some of the minor players, like some of the doctors and nurses.


And #TeenHottiesObservingPants so that people remember.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Yes I can see some doctors and nurses getting by with mere prison sentences.

The average MD is not a scientist in outlook or temperament; he reads the literature but likely doesn’t have time to evaluate it; he’s got patients to see and (grrrr) paperwork to do for the insurance companies and government. So fraudulent “science” would get past him unnoticed, at least at first. (I can’t fault that; everyone has to trust other people to do their jobs right by default or we couldn’t function as a society.)

However, at this point, these guys have got to be starting to ask themselves questions, unless they’re in a true bubble and don’t see any of this.


Agree. My post needed to be called out. I am not in a forgiving mode AND payback IS mandatory.