2024·02·10 Joe Biden Didn’t Win Daily Thread

What is it that feeds our battle, yet starves our victory?

January 6 Tapes Reminder

After the first release, we were supposed to get more, every week.

As far as I know it hasn’t happened.

Speaker Johnson, please follow through!

A Caution

Just remember…we might replace the RINO candidates. (Or we might not. The record is mixed even though there is more MAGA than there used to be.) But that will make no difference in the long run if the party officials, basically the Rhonna McDaniels (or however that’s spelled–I suspect it’s RINO), don’t get replaced.

State party chairs, vice chairs, secretaries and so on, and the same at county levels, have huge influence on who ultimately gets nominated, and if these party wheelhorses are RINOs, they will work tirelessly to put their own pukey people on the ballot. In fact I’d not be surprised if some of our “MAGA” candidates are in fact, RINO plants, encouraged to run by the RINO party leadership when they realized that Lyn Cheney (and her ilk) were hopelessly compromised as effective candidates. The best way for them to deal with the opposition, of course, is to run it themselves.

Running good candidates is only HALF of the battle!

SPECIAL SECTION: Message For Our “Friends” In The Middle Kingdom

I normally save this for near the end, but…basically…up your shit-kicking barbarian asses. Yes, barbarian! It took a bunch of sailors in Western Asia to invent a real alphabet instead of badly drawn cartoons to write with. So much for your “civilization.”

Yeah, the WORLD noticed you had to borrow the Latin alphabet to make Pinyin. Like with every other idea you had to steal from us “Foreign Devils” since you rammed your heads up your asses five centuries ago, you sure managed to bastardize it badly in the process.

Have you stopped eating bats yet? Are you shit-kickers still sleeping with farm animals?

Or maybe even just had the slightest inkling of treating lives as something you don’t just casually dispose of?

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

And here’s my response to barbarian “asshoes” like you:

OK, with that rant out of my system…

Biden Gives Us Too Much Credit

…we can move on to the next one.

Apparently Biden (or his puppeteer) has decided we’re to blame for all of the fail in the United States today.

Sorry to disappoint you Joe (or whoever), but you managed to do that all on your own; not only that, you wouldn’t let us NOT give you the chance because you insisted on cheating your way into power.

Yep, you-all are incompetent, and so proud of it you expect our applause for your sincerity. Fuck that!!

It wouldn’t be so bad, but you insist that everyone else have to share in your misery. Nope, can’t have anyone get out from under it. Somehow your grand vision only works if every single other person on earth is forced to go along. So much as ONE PERSON not going along is enough to make it all fail, apparently.

In engineering school we’re taught that a design that has seven to eight billion single points of failure…sucks.

Actually, we weren’t taught that. Because it would never have occurred to the professors to use such a ridiculous example.

Justice Must Be Done.

The prior election must be acknowledged as fraudulent, and steps must be taken to prosecute the fraudsters and restore integrity to the system.

Nothing else matters at this point. Talking about trying again in 2022 or 2024 is hopeless otherwise. Which is not to say one must never talk about this, but rather that one must account for this in ones planning; if fixing the fraud is not part of the plan, you have no plan.

Kamala Harris has a new nickname since she finally went west from DC to El Paso Texas: Westward Hoe.

Lawyer Appeasement Section

OK now for the fine print.

This is the WQTH Daily Thread. You know the drill. There’s no Poltical correctness, but civility is a requirement. There are Important Guidelines,  here, with an addendum on 20191110.

We have a new board – called The U Tree – where people can take each other to the woodshed without fear of censorship or moderation.

And remember Wheatie’s Rules:

1. No food fights
2. No running with scissors.
3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
4. Zeroth rule of gun safety: Don’t let the government get your guns.
5. Rule one of gun safety: The gun is always loaded.
5a. If you actually want the gun to be loaded, like because you’re checking out a bump in the night, then it’s empty.
6. Rule two of gun safety: Never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy.
7. Rule three: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.
8. Rule the fourth: Be sure of your target and what is behind it.

(Hmm a few extras seem to have crept in.)

Spot Prices

All prices are Kitco Ask, 3PM MT Friday (at that time the markets close for the weekend). (Note: most media quotes are for the bid…the price paid by the market makers, not the ask, which is what they will sell at. I figure the ask is more relevant to people like us who wish we could afford to buy these things. In the case of gold the difference is usually about a dollar, for the PGMs the spread is much wider.)

Last Week:

Gold $2,040.70
Silver $22.75
Platinum $901.00
Palladium $970.00
Rhodium $5,050.00

Gold $2,025.40
Silver $22.69
Platinum $884.00
Palladium $887.00
Rhodium $4800.00

Gold still bouncing around. But the platinum group metals are all undeniably in decline. Palladium has almost dropped below platinum. Actually, by one measure it already has. I quote the “Ask” prices because that’s what your purchase price is (somewhat) related to, but most quote “Bid” (how much they will pay a trader for the paper, in the commodities market). Platinum has a ten dollar spread, which means the Bid is $10 less than the ask, at $874. But palladium’s spread is typically $40, so bid on that is $847. If you can see past the dyslexia hazard, that means most people today are quoting palladium at less than platinum, for the first time in a LONG time. (I suppose I should have sold when it was at $3,000?)

When I was new to this, gold was roughly $300, platinum was roughly $400, and palladium was $80 or maybe $120 though it jumped to $180 when “cold fusion” was announced. So to my gut the market was upside down with palladium the most expensive and platinum the cheapest. At least palladium is back where it belongs, now if the sale on platinum would just effing end…

Obligatory PSAs and Reminders

China is Lower than Whale Shit

Remember Hong Kong!!!

中国是个混蛋 !!!
Zhōngguò shì gè hùndàn !!!
China is asshoe !!!

China is in the White House

Since Wednesday, January 20 at Noon EST, the bought-and-paid for His Fraudulency Joseph Biden has been in the White House. It’s as good as having China in the Oval Office.

Joe Biden is Asshoe

China is in the White House, because Joe Biden is in the White House, and Joe Biden is identically equal to China. China is Asshoe. Therefore, Joe Biden is Asshoe.

But of course the much more important thing to realize:

Joe Biden Didn’t Win

乔*拜登没赢 !!!
Qiáo Bài dēng méi yíng !!!
Joe Biden didn’t win !!!

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From OT:

February 9, 2024

SD: “The number one question raised is how to unite the general population of normal Americans and find a common way to push back against the radicals who have taken control of government and the domestic power structures aligned with the public-private partnership.

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There have been several discussions centered around the use of federalism; factually, there is a good argument to be made that tactical civics can have a strong impact on the overall dynamic of a detached, disinterested and yet weaponized system of government.  However, the flaw within this process is thinking the power center operators care about what is happening at the boundaries of our defenses.

Factually, the state elected officials and those sent to DC are part of the same system. They are detached from us. Try to contact or use the process of “constituent services” and you will quickly discover how you are viewed as a simple annoyance to those who unilaterally decide how they will participate in ruling over you.

Not only does this UniParty assembly mean our applying electoral federalism (aka tactical civics) results in a slower march toward the same cliff, it also means we are comforted by a sense of something that ultimately provides little value.

We need actionable steps that can be taken.

Additionally, we already know if Donald Trump can take the MAGA fight back to Washington DC, the entire apparatus of government, and yes that includes your elected representatives, will fight to destroy him at every opportunity. So, how exactly do we: (a) support President Trump, (b) push back against the weaponized state, (c) confront our government abusers.
There are more of us than them, yet each of our efforts seems to face the full force of “them” against a divided sense of “us.” One of the ways we have discussed direct push back is a modern version of a workers solidarity movement. Essentially the creation of a system where targeted general work strikes can have an impact on the system that is targeting us.

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It is one thing to discuss the Polish Solidarity Movement in esoteric terms of endearment. It is another thing entirely to think about the application of a labor strike process within the United States where 370 million people live. However, if you apply the concept of tactical civics simultaneously, you can make an argument the tactical civics are the shield (EU truckers), and the labor strike is the spear (EU farmers).

One of the advantages we have in the USA governmental structures is the “Republican Form of Government,” or the constitutional republic and the ability of states to determine their own interests.

Think about targeting now going in reverse, where WE THE PEOPLE now target the non-compliant system operators and/or politicians. A Senator or Congress person aligns against Trump’s interests, our interests, and instead of gnashing our teeth, we immediately begin a targeted work stoppage in/around the representative’s district. In this scenario we don’t need tens of millions to make an impact, only a few thousand can completely change the dynamic.

How does it work? How is it possible? How did the people of Poland pay their bills during the solidarity strikes? How do you organize that process so that everyone can participate, and yet no one individually needs to carry the risk of losing? These nuts-and-bolts questions are part of my research mission.

How effective would a Congressional District (CD-??) “sick-out” be?  Perhaps timed for every Wednesday, beginning on the {fill_in_the_blank_day} and continuing until the representative understood that he/she alone was the cause of the economic trouble in their district. You see, the general labor strike doesn’t need to be scaled to the size of Poland circa 1980’s; instead with modern communication, it can target very specific places and create just as big an impact.

The dismantling of a weaponized government first begins with a set of political representatives who are willing to take apart the institutional tools that government uses to weaponize their power.  As we saw with the hyped and yet failed Congressional Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of Government, once the public appears to be satiated with false hope from yet another created assembly, the representative group does nothing.
The urgency of the committee silo might look entirely different if the trash was not getting picked up in the committee members’ districts. Or the lawns were not getting mowed, or the cooks stayed home, etc.

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You never realize how strong you are until being strong is your only option.
I will have much more to share on this issue as we will likely have a lot of support from ordinary MAGA-minded people in a multitude of countries. The Dutch, German, Polish, Romanian, French, Spanish and Irish farmers/truck drivers are figuring out how effective it can be if they push back with strategic solidarity.  We can learn a valuable lesson.
Whether Donald Trump wins the 2024 election or not, the same practical process will be needed.  If Trump wins the election, it will be to provide support under the auspices of unavoidable pressure.  We don’t wait for primary races; we trigger the financial consequences immediately.

More to follow, soon….”

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You get the trophy for the longest blog comment on Qtree.  😵 


A) I’ve had far longer posts than that 😂

B) this was a copy and paste from SD on CTH


Fine. Have it your way. Return the trophy.  😠 


I just didn’t want to take it under false pretenses… 😂


Okay, you can keep it.


Ha! So I win again… 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!!! 😆

Valerie Curren

with Bonus Bozo Button  😂 


I was expecting the next comment to start with “Chapter II:”.

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I’ve always thought Aubergine’s recommendation to stop work nationwide and bring it all to a screeching halt would work. Am following the farmers protests in europe with great interest. We DO have the power if we just muster the will.

Thanks for bringing this, Scott!


“I’ve always thought Aubergine’s recommendation to stop work nationwide and bring it all to a screeching halt would work.”


I like the idea, it always seems like it should work.

But then I remember that if it actually worked, then people who are suffering under tyranny all over the world would be repeating the ‘national strike’ solution everywhere, on an ongoing basis, thereby ending or overthrowing those tyrannical governments.

And that’s just not happening.

A national strike (or similar) might be a good start, helping to expose the intractable problem of tyrannical gov’t while creating new cooperative relationships going forward, and be very helpful to learn what doesn’t work, in order to move on to something else that might.

I don’t know how many times that lesson has to be repeated, before the light bulb goes on and people realize the most unpleasant option is the only one that has ever actually worked.

The reason it is so rarely invoked is because nobody wants to do it, so instead, people put up with the most heinous treatment imaginable, for a shocking amount of time, before (or if) they ever actually do anything to end their own suffering.

I’m not just making this up, actual important people, some of the best, observed the same thing:

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,

–That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes;

and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

— excerpt, from an important historical document, written and signed by some important dudes in the distant American past

To make things much worse, today, wymyns are in positions of power and authority all over the place, and generally speaking, the wymyns have even less testosterone than the average castrated gamma or delta males who answer to them.

I’m pretty sure that women are innately disinclined toward the use of force, for the obvious reason that, historically (though certainly not in the mixed up, muddled up, shook up world of 2024), women, at least historically speaking, are not men.

Historically, men and women used to be different, and primarily it was men who were inclined toward physical confrontation and who actually fought — not women. Before women became men, smart women would try to prevent their man from getting in physical confrontations — because if he was killed or incapacitated, who was going to protect and provide for the family?

This was the way of mankind for literally dozens of years. Maybe even longer.

But we’ve wisely tossed all that on the ash heap of history. Things are much better now, this new way we do things. I’m all about new ways. The old paths are for suckers. I think that’s even in the Bible, somewhere between Jeremiah 6:15 and 6:17.

But even though everything is so much better now, the fact remains that we are a nation led by women and effeminate men, so the use of force is going to be the very last thing they will endorse or sanction.

And since the majority of males have been involuntarily subjected to the Joni Ernst protocol (she actually ran and won on her ability to cut the balls off of pigs… there’s a very socially popular metaphor deeply buried in there somewhere, way below the surface), the she-men aren’t going to do anything until their Boss-B’s give them the all clear.

And I don’t suspect that will actually ever happen, until or unless the Boss-B’s are literally being shoved into cattle cars or being gang raped by illegal alien invaders.

And based on what’s happening in Eurolandia, I’m not at all confident it would happen even then.

But I’m from generation X, so I don’t actually know anything — and who would listen, even if I did?

Our Founding Fathers probably didn’t know anything either. They were probably just lucky they happened to live in a detestable patriarchy.

They certainly didn’t have the highly valued esprit de nothing of the modern cosmopolitan dandy-boi 👍 😂

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My selective reading habits caught me again.
Read in one of the paragraphs above “Pretty/Woman/Use of Force” and immediately jumped to this.

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Again, sorry if I misunderstood and was unable to process further. 😁

Barb Meier

Such a lovely lady. Her momma must be so proud.

Valerie Curren



But then I remember that if it actually worked, then people who are suffering under tyranny all over the world would be repeating the ‘national strike’ solution everywhere, on an ongoing basis, thereby ending or overthrowing those tyrannical governments.

I’m not sure that the reason it’s not happening is because it doesn’t work. I can’t name situations where it has been thoroughly implemented, so I don’t have an example for reference. Can you name a time when people have done a thorough strike, one that halts production and services until their demands were met, for a long period of time, when there was no result?

There are lots of reasons why people are reluctant to strike, and why some can’t do it.

I’m all in favor of an organized general strike, in all cases needed, until results were obtained. There is great strength in numbers.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The “People Power” protests against Marcos in the Philippines come to mind as well.


“I’m not sure that the reason it’s not happening is because it doesn’t work.”


I think it is because many people truly don’t understand power, and most women understand it far less than men. Because for millennia, they haven’t needed to, men dealt with it.

Most people don’t understand what people will do to get power, and they don’t understand what people will do to keep it. Most people have never even seriously thought about it, because why would they?

We see them in nice suits and dresses, and so we think they are somehow different than drug cartel members, who would put a tire around your neck and light it on fire for fun.

The people in nice suits and dresses are no different. They just have someone else do their dirty work.

They’re monsters, in every sense of the word.

I could say that a MILLION times, and I doubt it would ever sink in. You are not a predator. Most people aren’t. People who are not predators don’t understand what a predator truly is, until they are trapped or assaulted by one.

They don’t give a &^%$ if you protest and march and riot until the year 2525. Why should they? It won’t hurt them.

They are rich, they are powerful, and they are NEVER going to be otherwise, short of having it ripped out of their cold dead fingers, because they’re NEVER going back to being poor or powerless.


So that’s what you are dealing with.

People who will literally do ANYTHING to stay in power and/or maintain their access to same.

And that definitely includes murdering the entire population of planet earth if need be.

Now here is the $64,000 question.

When dealing with someone who will do anything to remain in power, what is the ONLY thing that will remove them from power?

Our Founding Fathers knew the answer.

They didn’t have the luxury of fooling themselves.


I completely understand the concepts you’re presenting: predators, power and the force it takes to wield it, and evil and the lengths to which it will go. I just don’t agree that a national strike, done right, would have no effect and that the only thing that can be done is to use military-style force. That kind of force might become necessary, but I think other things could be done first. Getting enough people to participate is key. If there are not enough strikers to make the results felt, then it is not a viable strategy.

With such a strike, there is the threat of violence. People would get hungry, they would be inconvenienced, and they would get angry. The strikers would have to be willing to use the power they have to see it through, and they would have to be willing to take risks and use force if necessary to stand up for their rights. It’s not “your father’s strike,” standing on a picket line (not saying that was easy, either).

Gail Combs

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The worker’s massacre of 1928 in the Magdalena Zona Bananera – Colombia. An unfinished story — US Marines watched the killing of over 100 people and did nothing.


This paper analyzes the reasons behind the Massacre of Workers in the Banana Zone of Magdalena, Colombia, carried out by the Colombian Army on December 6th, 1928. The author describes the dynamics of the International Banana Market and its relationship with the multinational companies and with the Colombian Labor and Trade Union regulations. There is also an analysis of the past history and context of this conflict, which inspired the Nobel Prize Winner Gabriel García Márquez in one of the chapters of his novel “One Hundred Years of Solitude”, and of the manipulation of the information as registered by the Colombian Government and the United Fruit Company.

On This Day in 1914, US Military Slaughtered Kids in Colorado and JD Rockefeller Had Media Cover It Up

On April 19 and 20, 1914, during a miner strike in Colorado, the National Guard killed dozens of people—though the exact number of casualties is disputed, most sources agree that at least four women and 11 children were among the dead. When the workers first went on strike, they were evicted from the company-owned houses in the mining town, so they set up massive tent colonies outside of the towns. The workers were protesting for higher wages and better work qualities but were making very little progress.

The largest of these tent cities was in Ludlow, just outside of John D. Rockefeller’s Colorado Fuel and Iron Company. The tent city in Ludlow housed over 1,200 people, and entire families, including children, were living in these tents. The strike had been going on for months before the massacre, with tensions rising between the military and the strikers with every passing day.

Then one day, these tensions came to a head and the National Guard set up a machine gun on a hill overlooking the tent city and began raining bullets down on the workers and their families. The Soldiers then invaded the colony and began setting fires to the tents, trapping many innocent people to die inside.

Tiananmen Square Massacre: 

The 1989 Tiananmen Square Massacre, also known as the June Fourth Incident in China, was organized by students and took place in Beijing’s Tiananmen Square.

It was a spring like no other in Beijing in 1989. The Chinese economy grew rapidly, but its generated wealth was distributed unevenly. The political system was losing legitimacy as corruption and inflation ran rampant….

On May 20, martial law was declared, and troops were sent to Beijing. Senior leaders in the Communist Party urged immediate action to suppress the protesters. 

The military moved into Beijing’s central districts on June 4. They were armed with tanks and assault weapons and opened fire on protesters and bystanders alike. What followed became known as the Tiananmen Square Massacre or the June Fourth Incident. The exact number of casualties is unknown, but estimates range from hundreds to thousands killed and thousands more injured.

The Kent State massacre
A friend was there. The “official Story’ is a crock of SCHIFF!!! The protest was because the town refused to allow Vietnam Vets the right to VOTE. At the time my friend was married with two kids and going to Kent State on the GI bill. His wife working a full time job was allowed to vote, but because he was a student, despite the fact he was a permanent resident, he was deprived of the right to vote. He was 27 years old at the time and NOT A KID.

Four Kent State University students were killed and nine were injured on May 4, 1970, when members of the Ohio National Guard opened fire on a crowd gathered to protest the Vietnam War. the removal of voting rights from Vietnam vets.


“I can’t name situations where it has been thoroughly implemented, so I don’t have an example for reference.”


I would say there is almost certainly a very good reason why neither one of us can name a situation where it was thoroughly implemented.


“Can you name a time when people have done a thorough strike, one that halts production and services until their demands were met, for a long period of time, when there was no result?”



I think it’s a non-sequitur, the conclusion does not logically follow from the premise.

I can’t figure out what the link is between the premise (a national strike), and the desired outcome (gov’t surrenders to demands).

Why would the one (a strike) actually cause the other (gov’t concessions)?

It’s like a bank robber, trapped inside a bank, negotiating with the cops. The cops are never going to let him get away. He can talk (strike) for a while, maybe a long time, but it is always going to end the same way.

Because it can’t end any other way.

One side has a monopoly on the use of force combined with unlimited resources, and the other side doesn’t.

The side that doesn’t have a monopoly on the use of force (power) attempts to manifest power through numbers, and we call that voting.

So long as the vote is legitimate, the illusion of representative gov’t is maintained. It’s not really representative gov’t and probably hasn’t been since the 1790s, but everyone agrees to pretend like it is, because the negative consequences of doing anything about it are thought to be greater than the perceived potential rewards — and the odds of success are bleak anyway.

Unfortunately, the longer this situation is allowed to continue, the more corrupt the gov’t becomes, until the gov’t descends into outright tyranny.

Once tyranny manifests, legitimate voting necessarily ends, because the tyrants cannot afford to lose power. The reason they can’t afford to lose power is because the price is their lives, and they are not going to pay that price. At that point, voting becomes a complete illusion, an exercise in mockery and self-deception.

Once tyranny is out in the open, things start to go downhill quickly. It only took Germany a couple years to go full Hitler, and that was in the late 1930s. Things move much faster today.

So like the bank robber example, a strike only lasts as long as the people who have the actual power allow it to last.

When you were a child, and you didn’t like what your parents were doing, you and your siblings might have considered going on strike. Presumably, even as children, you could foresee how that would ultimately work out.

A) you could all get your asses blistered, the minimum guaranteed consequence

B) if you do any property damage during this little exercise in futility, you get your asses blistered plus your allowance and any other money you earn from cutting lawns, babysitting, etc., goes to the damage repair fund

C) eventually you’re going to get hungry, and the people you are striking against control your access to food

D) if you have barricaded yourselves in a room, eventually you’re going to have to use a toilet


The reason things are the way they are is never an accident, it is because someone’s interests are being served, and those interests have nothing to do with the public’s interest.

It is someone (many someones) in the shadows, someone behind the politicians whose interest is being served, and he paid a lot for it, and he gets a lot in return for what he paid.

This is the entire system, in a nutshell, from the local councilman, to the POTUS. Like a mafia — because that’s what government is, it’s people with a monopoly on force, who use that force to enrich themselves at the expense of others — everybody gets their palms greased, and the higher up the chain you go, the more grease you get.

When the corruption is mostly hidden because it is considered to be in poor taste, you may have a government that appears to be legitimate, even though it’s riddled with corruption and always has been, and always will be.

If the corruption is no longer hidden, because they don’t care who knows, because those in power have grown arrogant, because they believe the People are powerless to stop them, we have tyranny.

So once tyranny exists, to such an extent that the People can no longer ignore it, what is it that a ‘strike’ can reasonably be expected to accomplish?

A national strike might have some leverage if the corrupt gov’t is still interested in maintaining a veneer of legitimacy — but if the gov’t is still functioning well enough to maintain the appearance of legitimacy, the People will not be moved to strike in the first place.

It is only after tyranny can no longer be ignored, that the idea to go on strike is considered.

And by then, it is too late.

The corrupt know very well how to insulate and protect themselves. They have spent an entire career learning and practicing that skill, and they’re good at it. They’re all about self-preservation.

Meanwhile, we’re not even rookies at organizing a national strike. We’ve never even tried it before.

It’s not David vs. Goliath.

The better analogy is an ant vs. Goliath.

The mismatch would be comical, if the situation was not so grave for the ants.

But I am still in favor of a strike.

We can’t run before we walk, and we can’t walk before we crawl.

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A national strike might have some leverage if the corrupt gov’t is still interested in maintaining a veneer of legitimacy

A national strike could, if done effectively, halt nearly all production, all transportation of good across the country and even affect exports, affect the availability of medical care, stop trains from running, affect water quality, etc. It could have a huge impact. The people have a great deal of power. They just have to act in unison, with conviction.

Gail Combs

I think what Scott is saying is the six thousand  Cabal members would have access to food, water, transportation even in the event of a strike so they really do not give a Schiff. They can easily out wait us, and as I illustrated, when they get annoyed enough they will start killing people.

ONLY if their servants & military/security… ALSO rebel will they be defeated.


I don’t think things are so disconnected that they would not be affected.


Understand the six thousand, may or may not be effected, or give a shit. They are NOT the weak link.

  • A rung or two down, they’ll give a shit.
  • Another couple rungs down, Absolutely give a shit.
  • These beta bois will cave, as soon as they get uncomfortable OR see their bottom line dropping.

My guess, a general strike, or a targeted strike can be effective. Targeted can be area, region or commodity…


Seems as though the EU and or some EU countries ARE caving to truckers AND farmers. Maybe I missed something.


I think we need many more MAGA candidates to step up and run against these DS weasels.

Gail Combs

Organization does help. Pick one to be mayorial candidate and the other city council seats. If needed uses STRAWS!


yes this. If they were truly MAGA and wanted to see a better America, they would have organized better. Maybe they were controlled op…


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Okay … this is one of Garrison’s toon that has hidden meanings.

So I’ll ponder it overnight and get back to all y’all later.


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Don’t cheat, though, ’cause Garrison writes something about each cartoon.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



Suddenly, Slow Guy gets it…

Joe Fredo Biden.   :wpds_lol: 

DOH! As Slow Guy reaches for, first cup of coffee. 🙂


Let me help you out with that a bit…..


ThanQ. I should have known that.  😥 


I thought you had posted this clip, but when I watched it, it wasn’t the one I was thinking of (this one, below):



That one fits with Kamala cackling in the boat at the dock behind him.

Brave and Free

Well one thing, the hoe doesn’t know how to fish. So she’s just pretending like always.

Cuppa Covfefe

Huthis and the blowfish…


Let’s not forget the potted plant!


…potted plant.

Dang a Twofer.   :wpds_wink: 

Barb Meier

You can trigger Barack by teasing about his big ears. You can trigger Joe by teasing about his lifelong stupidity. I wish that were enough to make them self-aware.



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Valerie Curren

Pretty much!


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Rand showing his one of his other talents.


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Nailed it.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. And this country is run by a bunch of people who don’t even remember the history of their own political party, much less the country, even less another country.


Wolf, I’m not sure our “leaders” remember what they ate for lunch yesterday!

I am now pretty convinced that many of the people “running” America are, if not actually possessed, are under such demonic influence that their humanity is gone. They are not in charge of their lives. If there was a mass exorcism, I think many of them would awaken as if from a coma, look around, and think “what happened?”

Valerie Curren

I was thinking The Exorcist, but same idea.

Valerie Curren

yep…demons be gone! can’t happen soon enough either!

Cuppa Covfefe

That’s not in the book at all… Jackson did a lot of adding, it appears…

Valerie Curren

dramatic license it would seem…It’s been so long since I read the books that the details escape me 🙁


I strongly suspect you’re correct. If so, everyone should mutter a prayer nonstop while near any of them.


Ding. Ding. Ding.

Which is why, the answer, reality, truth, was not a fifteen second sound bite.


Slo Guy for the win. 👍

Not sure even TC fully understood what was happening as it happened. He was getting schooled so that it would all be broadcast back to normies here. Gonna give TC a pass due to all of the stink left on him from his DC elite past. Either that or he was intentionally playing the foil to keep some resemblance of a connection to his past associations as a journalist (history).

History is recorded over millennia, not sound bites as you so aptly note. Putin is playing checkers while WEF/Neocons play checkers.

Most should remember this is a war of stories.

I have enjoyed watching the interview. Will rewatch at some point today.

Valerie Curren

guessing you meant “Putin is playing checkers chess while WEF/Neocons play checkers.” VP playing 2D chess & Trump playing 3D+ 😉


My guess. TC was caught up in the moment. Expecting whatever, Not hearing it. Worse, TC was NOT listening.

The Tell, aside from his expressions, was his lead in monologue. Thought he was getting filibustered. TC was NOT listening. Putin upfront said, Is this a serious interview.


Yup. 👍


Quite a goof as Val notes. Reverse the checkers and chess.

Valerie Curren

I think it was obvious what you meant, but I just couldn’t restrain my inner language police whoh-man 😉


Spot on. Which, of course, we knew here since they rolled the first tank across the border.

Gail Combs

I found it interesting that the first Minsk agreement was almost impossible to find.

That was thru an article written by Luboš Motl, a Czech physicist and Climate blogger. 

His blog post on the Russian-Ukrainian mess in 2014 mentioning that first Minsk Agreement was MISSING when I went to look for it at the start of the war.🤔

Cuppa Covfefe

I remember that Luboš was under a lot of political pressure (hinted at that in some posts/comments) and it seems he saw/understood a lot of stuff that escaped most… miss his posts…

Gail Combs

So do I. He took his blog private.

Barb Meier

Thanks Gail! I saved a copy locally and now have a Russia folder.

Barb Meier

I blame Obama and Vicki Nuland.


They certainly set the trip wire, for Putin to trigger. Nuland has been AND remains a problem for peace.

In fairness. Pappy Bush and Clinton had their grubby hands in their also. Putin called out Clinton.

Putin threw shade to Baby Bush. Which surprised me. I spose, Baby Bush simply didn’t make things in Ukraine worse.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Our government is better at LYING than almost anything else it does – and it’s not all that good at lying, come to think of it.


Controlled mostly by the “Father of Lies,” who, if you are grounded in the Father of Truth, is not a great liar, either.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I think you’re quite right.


USG can NOT even create believable Lies.

Perfect examples. Baghdad Kirby AND Baghdad Shag.

Two of the dumbest fucking spokes Idgits on earth.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy



🤣 👍


Dan Bongino:

They have two choices now:

-Admit Biden is senile, and not a criminal.

-Admit Biden is a criminal, and he’s not senile.

There is no option “C”.

Option C: Admit he’s senile and a criminal.
Option D: Continue to deny everything.
Option E: Blame Trump.


“Move on; nothing to see here.”


Option F: Blame Merrick Garland.


Joe Biden has told aides and outside advisers that Attorney General Merrick Garland did not do enough to rein in a special counsel report stating that the president had diminished mental faculties, according to two people close to the president, as White House frustration with the head of the Justice Department grows. 

The report from special counsel Robert Hur ultimately cleared Biden of any charges stemming from his handling of classified documents that were found at Biden’s think tank and his home. But Hur’s explanation for not bringing charges — that Biden would have persuaded the jury that he was a forgetful old man — upended the presidential campaign and infuriated the White House.

Biden and his closest advisers believe Hur went well beyond his purview and was gratuitous and misleading in his descriptions, according to those two people, who were granted anonymity to speak freely. And they put part of the blame on Garland, who they say should have demanded edits to Hur’s report, including around the descriptions of Biden’s faltering memory…

Frustration within the White House at Garland has been growing steadily.

Last year, Biden privately denounced how long the probe into his son was taking, telling aides and outside allies that he believed the stress could send Hunter Biden spiraling back into addiction, according to the same two people. And the elder Biden, the people said, told those confidants that Garland should not have eventually empowered a special counsel to look into his son, believing that he again was caving to outside pressure.

In recent weeks, President Biden has grumbled to aides and advisers that had Garland moved sooner in his investigation into former President Donald Trump’s election interference, a trial may already be underway or even have concluded, according to two people granted anonymity to discuss private matters. That trial still could take place before the election and much of the delay is owed not to Garland but to deliberate resistance put up by the former president and his team.

A spokesperson for the Department of Justice declined to comment. But one former senior Justice Department official noted that some of the frustrations being directed at Garland are better directed toward the White House. The president’s team had the option to exert executive privilege over elements of Hur’s report but declined to do so. And had Garland made edits to the report, he would have had to explain those redactions to Congress.

Beyond that, Garland felt the need to appoint a special counsel in the classified documents case in part because the president’s team bungled when the first documents were discovered.

“The way in which the White House story kept changing at the outset made it much more difficult for the Justice Department to resist having a special counsel,” said the former official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. “Had there been a very clear story at the beginning, it would have been easier.”

Biden picked Garland as his attorney general with the stated desire to restore a semblance of independence at the Department of Justice that he and others believed was lost under Donald Trump.

Biden wanted an “independent,” i.e., nonpartisan, AG. Riiiight. 😂

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Just listen to this shit, how amazingly corrupt it is. Biden is treating his own corruptoids angrily for not being as corrupt as the Ukrainians he bossed around. LMAO. Good Lord, what a shit-show.


Seems too Biden was trying to influence the investigations. Both his and Trumps. Pretty sure that is a no no. 😮

Valerie Curren

Smells like Comey’s Hillary exoneration, after making us think he’d actually charge her…uniparty theater, per usual  😠 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy


Valerie Curren


Brave and Free

Yup, everyone talks about this rather than the actual fact that there crooks.

Valerie Curren

“…Biden privately denounced how long the probe into his son was taking, telling aides and outside allies that he believed the stress could send Hunter Biden spiraling back into addiction…”

I mean Seriously did he ever stop This or any other criminal behavior?

Gail Combs

No of course not, he PROMOTED IT! Remember 10% for the Big Guy.

Valerie Curren

Yep!   :wpds_mad: 


^^^ Nails It. Uniparty Theater.

  :wpds_arrow:  Clear as a bell. Uniparty Theater.

Valerie Curren

all the world’s their stage   :wpds_evil: 




It is all staged for public consumption to keep people distracted.

U. S. political parties have been controlled opposition for 150+ years.

Cabal/WEF/Neocons/Globalists + Clown control = SCUM

SCUM totally control Europe.

SCUM has long been in bed with China. Clowns helped to create China as we know it.

Xi/China is in bed with Putin/Russia. They need each other as things currently stand. Xi will continue to purge Clown elements within.

Russia would rather be fully aligned with a Clown destroyed America. That is the exact opposite result desired by SCUM. Thus Putin/Russia/Orangeman bad BS.

SCUM’s control of China has been severely weakened by this Putin/Russia “alliance”.

Putin told the world in the interview his/Russia’s view of SCUM through a world history lesson. Xi understands that lesson combined with China’s own long history as a world power.

Putin has all the receipts from Ukraine (plus other places/events). The money going to that cesspool from SCUM from our money printing activities relates to Uki payoffs and military industrial complex money laundering as even SCUM prepares for a new, NWO.

Ukraine will cease to exist as a viable nation as the Nazis are eliminated and retreat back into SCUM.

Regional polarity via BRICS and its expansion with affiliated states/regions is the worldwide exit card from SCUM’s control. It is well underway. Its economic system will slowly strangle SCUM’s access to international markets. Somebody told us nothing can stop what is coming. I believe somebody as it appears this was being planned and implemented going back decades ago.

And with that I stand down from the lectern and hand it over to…

Gail Combs

“…And with that I stand down from the lectern and hand it over to…”

Matt Ehret, Gordon (GhostofBasedPatrickHenery) and Brady(War_Hamster)

At 43 minutes they connect United Fruit to Iran-Contra and gun smuggling, funding a terrorist organization and oh yeah their lawyer was ERIC HOLDER!

At 44:30 they briefly get into CIA, drug trade, China the Green Gang, and Vietnam…

If you have time it is an interesting history lesson and answers the question posed several years ago:

 “… Over the last quarter-century, historians have by and large ceased writing about the role of ruling elites in the country’s evolution. Or if they have taken up the subject, they have done so to argue against its salience for grasping the essentials of American political history. Yet there is something peculiar about this recent intellectual aversion, even if we accept as true the beliefs that democracy, social mobility, and economic dynamism have long inhibited the congealing of a ruling stratum. This aversion has coincided, after all, with one of the largest and fastest-growing disparities in the division of income and wealth in American history….Neglecting the powerful had not been characteristic of historical work before World War II. ”


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Really good stuff, Gail.



It’s like Dan has no idea who he’s dealing with… 😂


well, they might try and bring back “no reasonable attorney would bring these charges against the individual” ala Corney/hilldabeast


An AI koan from the MIT AI lab, circa the 1970s….

A disciple of another sect once came to Drescher as he was eating his morning meal.

“I would like to give you this personality test”, said the outsider, “because I want you to be happy.”

Drescher took the paper that was offered him and put it into the toaster, saying: “I wish the toaster to be happy, too.”

Cuppa Covfefe

Probably “The Way To Happiness”, another L.RonFlubbard $cieno theft of other peoples’ work…


James O’Keefe:

OMG has heard directly from Congressman Tiffany: “I went to the Tucson Ramada yesterday to see if I could get in and see how taxpayer money is being spent – since they are receiving federal funds. The “manager” would not speak to me and called the sheriff. We will be posting a video later today of our interaction with them, and I will share it with you. I am planning to go back to the House Judiciary Committee and call for an investigation into these NGOs. I can keep you updated…”

@RepTiffany was in Arizona as part of the Federal Lands Subcommittee field hearing yesterday highlighting environmental degradation of the border invasion…

Gail Combs

This is some history I was totally unaware of. Who knew that LAW FIRMS were the precursor to the CIA?
This also gets into the origins of the term ‘Banana Republic. John D Rockefeller makes an appearance…. Start about 14:30

Breaking History Ep. 31: The Ghost of United Fruit Still Haunts Latin America
Discussion by three historians Matt has a guest Brady aka War Hamster


Oh and they also get into the origins of domestic terrorism and intelligence agencies.

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Gail Combs

25:45 — United Fruit around 1910 (formed from a merger) was ALREADY GETTING INTO GENETIC MODIFICATION!!

…They had cutting edge technology in shipping, — here’s where it gets interesting — genetic modification and PUBLIC RELATIONS PROPAGANDA. That’s where genetic modification and propaganda began… interestingly enough a giant plague hit the banana plantations 2 or three years after the start of genetic modification… this was in 1907, 1908….

27 minutes Panama canal.

This is one of the guys they talk about:

William Walker (born May 8, 1824, Nashville, Tenn., U.S.—died Sept. 12, 1860, Trujillo, Honduras) adventurer, filibuster, and revolutionary leader who succeeded in making himself president of Nicaragua (1856–57).


Almost all commercial bananas for eating (as opposed to plantains and such) are clones of the ‘Cavendish’ banana.


Genetic modification of crops has been going on for centuries.

This is way more complicated than “GMOs are bad!”

If a farmer saved seed from a tomato that spontaneously grew in his garden, that had a better flavor than the tomato it sort of resembled, he committed genetic modification. The seeds he saved were the result of cross pollination with some other tomato last year.

If a farmer hand-pollinated a cucumber plant with a different cucumber plant, and saved the seed from the resulting cucumber, he genetically modified it. Saving seed from only the hardiest plants over time is a form of GM, too.

It is not as simple as ALL GMOs are bad. SOME GMOs, like Round-Up resistant wheat, are bad. Other GMOs are fine, and often beneficial.


Your education of the masses in your areas of expertise are sincerely desired, at least by me.

People are not dumb about these things, they have been misled. My own experiences BIMD with the ex’s family farming operation taught how crop yields, nutritional values, cotton fibers, etc. were greatly improved through these pollination techniques. That the process can be used to do the opposite does not mean the ability to do so is inherently bad.

Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water.

Gail Combs

Unfortunately when it comes to this subject matter the precise meaning of words matter.

The Cabal LOVES to confuse us by messing with definitions and mixing people up.



And thank you.

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Gail Combs

You are talking about a technique used by farmers and even Hunter/gathers in the stone age of SELECTING seed from the best plant. (They found this in digs in the USA per my anthro course.) I do not know if these Historians are talking about that.

There is also hybridization where you get hybrid vigor. The parent strains are pure (and not particularly vigorous) but the hybrid from the two different strains is an excellent vigorous plant that does not breed true.
I think this may be what they are actually talking about.

1926—First hybrid-seed corn company organized 

Then there is Genetic modification. A quick search shows actual gene manipulation did not start until the 1970s

Definition: Genetic Modification

Genetic modification, also known as genetic engineering or genetic manipulation, 👉refers to the process of altering the genetic material of an organism by introducing specific changes into its DNA. This technology allows scientists to modify the genetic makeup of an organism, including plants, animals, and microorganisms, by adding, deleting, or modifying specific genes.

Methods of Genetic Modification

There are several methods used for genetic modification, including:

1. Gene Insertion: In this method, a desired gene is inserted into the DNA of the target organism. This can be done by using various techniques such as gene guns, electroporation, or viral vectors.

2. Gene Deletion: This method involves removing specific genes from the DNA of an organism. It can be achieved through techniques like gene knockout or gene silencing.

3. Gene Editing: Gene editing techniques, such as CRISPR-Cas9, allow scientists to make precise changes in the DNA sequence of an organism. This enables the modification of specific genes or the correction of genetic defects…

Unfortunately this is a confusion I see a lot and in many different field.

Valerie Curren

It all sounds like attempts to play God…

Gail Combs

Selecting the seeds from the best to plant the next year is NOT in my opinion, playing God. Humans have been doing it since before history was ever written.


Valerie Curren

Agreed. Choosing the best seeds only makes sense…at least in the plant world.

It reminds me of eugenics when thinking of human breeding though…shudder…

Gail Combs

Well it is not a good idea for brothers and sisters or even 1st cousins to marry.

Although you will see that in animal breeding. 3 of my ponies have the same Dad and Grandad…

AND have genetic problems as a result.

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He sure didn’t live long.

Gail Combs


Sam Zemurray (37 min)

40 min – Columbia massacre of 1928 a worker strike for a 6 day week instead of 7. On behalf of United Fruit Columbian troops massacred 100s of people. This was done with full support of the US state dept. A Marine frigate sat in harbor and observed the massacre but did not intervene..

United Fruit hired a lawyer John Foster Dulles the brother of the guy a decade later who would start CIA… United fruit was one of the most powerful companies in world. Brothers were also at The Treaty of Versailles –(1919 start of rise of Hitler & middle east mess)

👉With Dulles @ United Fruit you then get the start of the cocaine trade from central America to the USA in the 1930s

This was before the CIA involvement in the drug trade. United Fruit got such a bad name they changed it to Chiquita in 1984

43 minutes connected to Iran-Contra and gun smuggling, funding a terrorist organization and oh yeah there lawyer was ERIC HOLDER!

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Deplorable Patriot

That family was also heavily involved in the annexation of Hawaii. John Foster, John Foster Dulles and Allen Dulles’s grandfather, was an under secretary of state in the late 1890s.

Amazing how they keep turning up in all the disasters.

Valerie Curren

their descendants connected to Lahaina genocide?

Gail Combs

Actually those historians do touch on Hawaii and the US take over.


Conspiracy theory warning.

Still suspect that children may of been moved to possibly two of those private Islands from neighboring Kaui (only flights from there go into Niihau). Practically Niihau. Looked at flights going in there shortly after and there appeared there may have been multiple flights heading toward the island before they disappeared off the screen before landing. The island only has the family and it’s (possessive, they own those people) villagers. There is not supposed to be anyone else living there. The family patriarchs died off and there was talk that the descendants (both elderly men) would be opening parts of the island for recreational pursuits but everything is so mum concerning that Island. The flights seemed very excessive for just one family.

Valerie Curren

I wish I had time to watch those things but I’ll probably never get around to that. I So VERY MUCH APPRECIATE the info that you sift & source & your highlighting of key points. This is an invaluable service to our Q-Tree family!!! Thank YOU So Much  😍 

Gail Combs

I haven’t quite finished the video. The next piece they drop is…

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Gail Combs

That is why I find this breaking history series fascinating. You see how the same families are involved from generation to generation.


Gail Combs

The very interesting stuff starts about 44:30

CIA + United Fruit + terrorists,= + drugs + Middle East destablization + Latin America + Tel-evangelists raising money to support all this AND NAMES WE RECOGNIZE…

There is too much info too fast for me to write down.

Matt adds that not only was land owned by United Fruit used by the CIA for head quarters, but the WWF (Prince Phillip) used ecology to set up massive protected zones both in Latin America and Africa that were then used as practice zones by the CIA funded Terrorists.

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

If I told you that my CHILD was injured in a car accident, you would be compassionate and worried. If I told you it was because the BRAKES FAILED, you would be shocked and appalled. If I told you I found out the manufacturer decided not to bother testing the brakes, you would be mad and tell me to SUE. If I told you I found over 60 studies showing they knew they would fail and opted instead to cover it up, your HEAD WOULD SPIN. If I further told you that: The government KNEW ALL ALONG ABOUT THE DANGERS; that laws were passed to PREVENT ANYONE FROM SUING the manufacturers; that there were HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of killed/injured CHILDREN, you would be beyond yourself trying to work out how to help these kids.

But replace the word CAR with the word VACCINE and you would run a mile. Why? Think about it because this is the truth. Millions of parents are fighting each day JUST TO BE HEARD. The evidence is beyond question. Vaccines are not properly tested and hundreds of studies show the connection between vaccines and serious injuries, including seizures, neurological damage, Guillain Barre Syndrome and Death. This is besides the high rate of life- threatening allergies, asthma, cancer and chronic ailments amongst vaccinated children. Where are the recalls? Where is the demand for answers? Where is the public outrage? The alternative media is the only place where this information can be found because the truth is being suppressed.

So are you going to continue ignoring the warnings and the truth until YOUR child is injured or killed?


Valerie Curren

That’s a great way to attempt to remove the blinders people still have!


Wolf Moon
Thank you so much for this. Yours Truly added this tweet to the discussion thread of the “An Open Letter to “Vaccinated” Medical Professionals” post.

Yours Truly will add that, IMO, if PARENTS also understand that their COVID-19 “vaccine”-injured / made sick / made disabled, or (God forbid) killed CHILDREN were being REPLACED with those of the ILLEGAL ALIENS INVADER ARMY continuing to flood into the United States — that might be an additional incentive to get these “vaccines” PULLED COMPLETELY.

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Great point.




Spammed out.

Maybe it’ll wake some from Zombie Life.

Valerie Curren

Mini ground report:

I ran into an avid Trump supporter, based on flags & stickers on his truck & engaged him in conversation. He was 50’s-60’s I’d guess & wearing a Trump sweatshirt & hat. He said he gets lots of reactions, positive & negative, to his Trump enthusiasm.

What threw me for a loop was that he Clearly was wearing makeup. He had sparkling pink lipstick w/ a gloss overlay, something glowie on his skin, & clearly frosted white eye shadow. He didn’t give off a flame on vibe but it was pretty strange.

Different strokes & all.

He’s Hopeful that the election will work right this time & Trump will be back in office. I expressed doubt in that Trump clearly won in a Massive Landslide in 2020 yet Biden, the Usurper, was still installed. It doesn’t look, to me, like the massive fraud machine has been dismantled…he agreed that aka BHO was pulling FJB/LGB’s strings & that someone is pulling Soetoro’s strings. He was adamant that they were actively destroying the country & mentioned the border invasion. I mentioned the ineligibility & we discussed how BHO’s anti-Americanism was disregarded by incessantly playing the race card…sigh


Two possibilities come to mind. (1) He is in theatrical productions; and (2) he is suffering from some major medical condition.


Or, I suppose, (3) he is Michael Jackson.

Valerie Curren

If so his skin bleaching regimen Really paid off LOL

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Valerie Curren

I Really wanted to comment/ask on the make-up but restrained myself 😉


Maybe he’s a pretender wanting a “fellow’ Trump supporter to comment negatively so he can turn it around to homophobia /

Valerie Curren

interesting thought…could be…it wasn’t flamboyant make-up but its presence at all is off putting to “regular” people, not that I claim that camp 😉

Cuppa Covfefe

Or both, for the win…

Gail Combs

Some cross dressers are straight males. Also some of the fringe (gays & such) are horrified that they are now being tied to child rapers and want nothing more to do with the DemonRats.

Valerie Curren

He was dressed like a casual male, fwiw…

Gail Combs

Could have just changed without removing make-up.

Valerie Curren

we may never know…just like the tootsie pop!


Was he returning from the library?

Valerie Curren

He was at the credit union in a neighboring city…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

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Valerie Curren

 😂  Yup!  😂 



Valerie Curren

I told Hubby about this encounter & he obsessed abut the makeup too LOL


I get it. Likely, I’d cut up a bit about the nonsense.

But. Fundamentally. What matters. Focus on Trump First. America First.

All the rest is chaff.

Valerie Curren

Yes! Though Hubby did say if he ran into the guy in Home Depot & he encroached his space, seeming to hit on him, he’d kick him in the balls, LOL


Great response from Hubby.   :wpds_smile: 

Valerie Curren

😉 😉


“He said he gets lots of reactions, positive & negative, to his Trump enthusiasm.”

Regardless of state that I was in, the only negative to Trump hat / stickers, I ever received was in 2016. In-N-Out Carson City. CA 12 near Lodi and I-80 Fairfield.

Since then. Any dissenters, which surely there were some, chose to STFU.

Outwardly, it has been all smiles, thumbs up and positive comments.

Valerie Curren

He said he regularly gets flipped off by some people & cheered by others. This was in Metro Detroit so not necessarily heavy MAGA country…


Good he is standing tall…Trump hat, sweatshirt, stickers. <<< Integrity.

Valerie Curren

Yes! I was very glad to see that too, which is why I wanted to speak with him 🙂


Valerie Curren
“Suspicious Dog” thinks this person is a “plant.”

Valerie Curren

I have no clue for he seemed sincere in our discussion, fwiw…


Good observation. Noted for future interactions with folks.

Valerie Curren

I had a weird fraud situation through my credit union recently. Through my hubby’s job we have an HSA for the first time & it is w/ a checking account so we can use the debit cards at point of service, which couldn’t be set up via just a savings account. So we got our cards about a year ago & I hadn’t used mine yet.

I got a notice from the credit union that this card needed to be used in one of several ways in a time-limited manner or would be deactivated for no activity even though the card was supposed to be good for 4 years. I’d misplaced the notice w/ details so went to the branch to address the situation.

Apparently a couple months back someone attempted to make a purchase on my debit card, which the credit union declined as suspicious. This was for $10.71, iirc, & from France??? The weird thing is that I’ve Never used the card & once activated it’s only ever been in my purse. Neither I nor the credit union have Any Idea how someone in France would have my card numbers to attempt an unauthorized purchase.

I just mention it in case it’s representative of some new hacking capabilities or something. Very Strange…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Wow. But yeah, maybe the cyber-thieves are “testing” card numbers or something like that.

Valerie Curren

The credit union associate assisting me wondered if there was some kind of bot that just randomly runs through numbers to see if something bites.

It seemed such a small charge, had it gone through, that Hubby wondered if that would mean most people might even miss the charge on a statement. I wondered if they tried to buy something small as a test but if it went through then they’d buy bigger ticket items until stopped or something…shrug…


Commonly read, they test a small sale. Then go for the Grand PrizeS.

Valerie Curren

That makes sense in a sick, criminal, twisted mindset way 🙁


Happened to me, small purchase on the east coast, then an hour later a large purchase about an hour north of my home. CC called, refused to pay both, sent new card. I bought the wife and I RFID wallets. So far so good.

Valerie Curren

What a hassle. 🙁

Barb Meier

Yes, putting a small charge on a card is testing to see if it works. If that goes through, then later they buy more expensive stuff as you suggest. That’s what my bank told me a long time ago when someone in another country used my card numbers and the bank gave me a new card with a new number and canceled those payments from my account.

Valerie Curren

crazy mixed up criminal world  🙄 


That antenna thing Coothie obsessed over months ago? Pure WAG.

FWIW. IMO. Credit Union should have notified you, of the declined transaction. Offered to issue a new debit card. Which I’d have accepted. Demanded, if not offered.

Gail Combs

YUP! They should notify you.

The guy who stole my card took photos of the front and back so he had the # and the pin. If he slipped it back into my wallet, I would never have known.

Valerie Curren

savvy sinner  😠 

Valerie Curren

I didn’t see such a notification but the helper said they’d sent something. I may have missed it in my paperwork nightmare life &/or my overfull email inbox…


Valerie Curren
The credit union now must issue new debit cards BOTH to you AND to your husband.
The credit union now must PUT A “FLAG” on the new debit cards so that ANY purchase has to be approved by either you or your husband. This includes all point-of-sale purchases, internet purchases etc.

Valerie Curren

TY. I’ll have to mention that to them too it seems…

Cuppa Covfefe

There was a clearinghouse that was hacked a while back where these sorts of things happened… I don’t remember the details, but many times there are hacks and the company(ies) involved don’t publicize things as they fear runs, shareholder problems, or disciplinary issues from the oversight authorities… or, worse, they have no clue…

Valerie Curren

yeah don’t know if it’s connected to that or not. My son got some type of info was hacked notification recently for a breach that happened more than a year ago, iirc 🙁

Valerie Curren

I hope PAVACA sees this comment…I was looking through research studies through the University of Michigan & ran across this extremely disturbing one. I’ll copy all the details here.

You can find the info at this link: https://umhealthresearch.org/studies/HUM00206480

Administering the COVID-19 vaccine and booster to people who have experienced long-COVID or had a previous adverse reaction. Ann Arbor, MI

The safety of giving a 2nd or 3rd dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech or the Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccine to people who experienced an adverse reaction to the 1st or 2nd dose or the safety of giving a first dose of COVID-19 vaccine to people who have a history of allergic reaction and avoided vaccination.

VICTORS have shown interest in this study

WHO CAN PARTICIPATE?This study is looking for 1 group of volunteers:
You may be eligible to participate if you meet all of these main criteria:

  • Age (years) is greater than or equal to 18
  • History of adverse reaction (allergic reaction) to the mRNA COVID vaccine, avoidance of initial mRNA COVID due to past history of allergic reaction, or is currently experiencing long-COVID symptoms and still in need of vaccination.

You are not eligible to participate if you meet any of the following criteria

  • Age (years) is between 1 and 17
  • Is pregnant at the time of enrollment

WHAT IS INVOLVED?Time required: one visit, approximately one hour.

Following a screening phone call, eligible participants will visit a Michigan Medicine laboratory and provide blood and urine samples within two weeks prior to their vaccination appointment.

Eligible participants will then be scheduled to receive a dose of either the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA COVID-19 vaccine or the Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, which will take place at the Frankel Cardiovascular Center in Ann Arbor. Specialists in allergy and immunology will perform a brief examination and administer a dose of the mRNA COVID vaccination. Following the vaccination, study staff will closely monitor the participant for at least 30 minutes to evaluate for signs of adverse reaction and appropriately treat any reactions that require intervention and, if necessary, schedule a follow up visit in the clinic.

Participants will also receive a follow up phone call 7 days after the vaccination appointment to review any reported adverse reactions that occurred after the vaccination.

COMPENSATIONUpon completion of your vaccination, you will be compensated with a $75 visa gift card.

ADDITIONAL INFORMATIONParticipants benefit from receiving a dose of the COVID vaccine, which has been highly effective in preventing severe disease and death, in a setting that provides close monitoring and treatment of any immediate adverse reactions.

The information obtained from this study will also be valuable in evaluating the future use of mRNA vaccines, which are being investigated for use in other conditions, including influenza and cancer.

For more information please contact: Allergy COVID Vaccine Study Team at allergycovidstudy@med.umich.edu (IRB # HUM00206480).

Principal Investigator: Baker Jr, James R
Department: Internal Medicine – Allergy & Clinical Immunology
Study posted on: February 24, 2022
Posting will be taken down on: December 31, 2028
For questions about this study, contact:Food Allergy Center COVID Study Team

I think the concerns are pretty evident by reading through the above–horrifying!   :wpds_evil: 

Gail Combs

For a $75 gift card.

It’s like it’s some Darwin thing.

Last edited 5 months ago by cthulhu
Valerie Curren

To be used by your heirs apparently  😵 

Cuppa Covfefe

Darwin Award… 😮 🙂

Valerie Curren

 🙄   😵   😠 


Ouch! That left a bruise.

Valerie Curren


Valerie Curren

Yes this is Beyond Evil from our perspective! TY for copying it to the Deagel post!

Valerie Curren

I attempted to archive this page & it said it was saved but this came up when clicking the link to the alleged save:


Show All

Hrm.The Wayback Machine has not archived that URL.

This page is unavailable for archiving. The server returned code:
because server does not respond
Click here to search for all archived pages under https://umhealthresearch.org/.
The Wayback Machine is an initiative of the Internet Archive, a 501(c)(3) non-profit, building a digital library of Internet sites and other cultural artifacts in digital form.
Other projects include Open Library & archive-it.org.
Your use of the Wayback Machine is subject to the Internet Archive’s Terms of Use.


OK so I saved the images of the info through Gab…

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A link to my Gab post in case anyone wants to pass it along:


Valerie Curren

I went back to the Wayback Machine & it even said the site was captured today but when clicking on it it gets the error code…sigh…


This one yields the calendar:


Valerie Curren

I tried running it through Yandex to see if it would show but no luck.

Unfortunately this possible pedo directory popped up…

archive of pedo directory

[deleted by Wolf]

I’m not clicking on Anything here…but for those bounty hunters this is fyi…

Last edited 5 months ago by Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yeah, I just deleted that.

Please DO NOT bring even any links to possible pedo here. DHS uses that stuff as an excuse to spy, gail gain leverage, etc.

Last edited 5 months ago by Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
Valerie Curren

OK, sorry about that. Glad you caught it quickly!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

No problem! I just want people to know that it’s best not to even try “helping” with this stuff. The people who are professionally involved through organizations are way ahead on all of this, so there is little or nothing we may find that they’re not already aware of.

Curiosity has killed a gazillion cats in regard to pedo. Absolutely no links to even possible pedo should ever be on this site.

I recently became aware of a case of a strong Christian who somehow got drawn into viewing pedo – probably initially by curiosity – and it destroyed everything in his life before it killed him.

I’m actually glad I learned about this, so that I can be proactive in preventing the downfall of others.

Every day has to be NOT TODAY, SATAN!

Valerie Curren

Amen! Not Today, nor Any Day. Hedge of protection on our hearts, minds, & this precious site, in Jesus’ Name!

Valerie Curren

I could still see the link until I reloaded the page but now I see “deleted by Wolf” there. I’m really sorry for the extra hassle 🙁

Last edited 5 months ago by Valerie Curren
Gail Combs

Yandex has a porn problem. It also has a setting that blocks the problem. Hubby set mine to ‘family friendly’ and that killed the problem.

Valerie Curren

TY. Do you know where the “family friendly” setting is there?

Gail Combs

I can ask hubby to give directions later when he wakes up.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great! Thank you! Yes – now I remember – the last time I used Yandex I got a lot of pr0n on some searches.

Gail Combs

Videos were the worst — EYE BLEACH!

Valerie Curren



Family setting was easy peasy.

Valerie Curren

OK, Thx. I’m about to hit the hay too.

By the way, Hubby flipped on the news for a few minutes (we hardly ever watch news) & saw a report of thieves stealing a young bull, a goat, & a sheep in the middle of the night from an urban farm in the middle of the city of Detroit, near 7 Mile (8 Mile is the city’s northern border). We had no idea there were Any farms w/in city limits. They had the 2 black SUVs on video, one w/ a small trailer like used for yard work where the bull was put, while the other 2 animals were put in the back seat of the other vehicle. Very bizarre & it would seem that w/ video footage there would be license plates to check & hopefully catch the culprits. Hope the animals are OK…


I used to live near 7 mile. Spitting image of the neighborhood in Gran Torino but the yards had a little more room as I remember.

I’m unable to see that area as a farm, urban or otherwise. Amazing story.

Valerie Curren

Perhaps it’s part of the reuse of the former Michigan State Fairgrounds.

My old church was at VanDyke & Nevada (6 1/2 Mile) & one of my friends from that church lived just off 7 Mile close by 🙂

Valerie Curren

I think I figured it out, when on Yandex I clicked on the icon of horizontal lines on the right & got a menu where I chose settings & then put it in family mode. It had been on moderate protection so no filter would probably be pretty scary there!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Without filters, some searches on normal stuff on Yandex would just return pages of hardcore pr0n.

Valerie Curren



If you haven’t already done so, I would clear the history and cookies on your computer too.

Valerie Curren



Yandex. Settings bottom center of page. Family. Then captcha. They have a far different Captcha.

Gail Combs


Now I do not have to bother Hubby.

Valerie Curren