“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
LANGUAGE WARNING! Skip this one if you have sensitive ears.
Welcome to the sports of October thread.
Well, the sports where the players actually respect the flag, anyway,
And in that spirit, here is the first lady of the national radio airwaves, and, back in the day, a staple anthem singer at the Philadelphia Flyers games, presenting Irving Berlin’s great hymn to the nation.
And this gracious and remarkable woman was called racist decades after she passed on to her reward. Shameful.
Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.
Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though.
The bible of hockey demonstrates what should be left on the ice. (Once again, if rough language is a problem for you, skip this.)
And now for some house keeping:
There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules from time to time. Waiting to go through the metal detectors at your local arena, stadium or hockey rink would be a good time given the length of the ordeal.
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.
Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative.
I will praise thee, O lord, with my whole heart: for thou hast heard the words of my mouth. I will sing praise to thee in the sight of his angels: [2] I will worship towards thy holy temple, and I will give glory to thy name. For thy mercy, and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy holy name above all.[3] In what day soever I shall call upon thee, hear me: thou shall multiply strength in my soul. [4] May all the kings of the earth give glory to thee: for they have heard all the words of thy mouth. [5] And let them sing in the ways of the Lord: for great is the glory of the Lord. [6] For the Lord is high, and looketh on the low: and the high he knoweth afar off. [7] If I shall walk in the midst of tribulation, thou wilt quicken me: and thou hast stretched forth thy hand against the wrath of my enemies: and thy right hand hath saved me. [8] The Lord will repay for me: thy mercy, O Lord, endureth for ever: O despise not the work of thy hands.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
Morning, folks. It’s welcome to Autumn Day. Yes, three months ’til Christmas. Have you taken down the lights from last year? No? Well, guess what, you’re ahead of the game.
For now.
So, in looking around, nothing really special happened on September 25, and if you are seeing this block of text, nothing much is going on in politics, either. (Just kidding since there’s one bombshell after another coming to light.) So, today is a generic, normal, run of the mill hump day open thread.
The obligatory mood music for the day.
Awfully civil for a cat fight.
Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.
Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though.
And now, for a real cat fight.
https://youtu.be/UlTfDnrGqSg
Please try not to kick Joan Collins in the seat, such actions could get us 8chaned.
And now for some house keeping:
There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules from time to time, like when you turn the sound off on the television because Shepard Smith’s show just started.
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.
Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative.
In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed.
From the Gospel According to St. Luke 8:16-18
Jesus said to the crowd: “No one who lights a lamp conceals it with a vessel or sets it under a bed; rather, he places it on a lampstand so that those who enter may see the light. For there is nothing hidden that will not become visible, and nothing secret that will not be known and come to light. Take care, then, how you hear. To anyone who has, more will be given, and from the one who has not, even what he seems to have will be taken away.”
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
At the invitation and specific request of the site owner, I’ve compiled a succession of historical facts, trivial items and some established palace intrigue to put into perspective the Scandals of the Catholic Church both sexual and Francis himself who is a walking scandal. More or less, this is how we got to here: where the laity don’t really, necessarily believe in the Real Presence of the Eucharist anymore and may or may not actually go to Mass regularly, that’s if they still identify as Catholic regardless of their Baptism and Confirmation which mark their souls as members of the Faithful.
To avoid making this walk through history entirely too long, which it might well be anyway, and primarily about Dogma (I’m leaving as much of that out as possible), we’ll begin well into the play at somewhere after the Council of Trent closed in 1563, AD.
From Her inception, temporal and satanic forces have tried to bring down the longest lived entity on Earth, the Catholic Church, and following the splintering apart of the northwestern part of Her (in the 16th century) resulting from protests that came in the form of open revolt, the behind the scenes forces seeking to destroy the Bride of Christ hatched a plot to do so via what amounts to destruction from within. By all accounts, the origins of the current campaign are in the 17th century at the hands of Freemasons. Further research is needed to confirm this, but the notion is backed by one of the whistleblowers in the Church who is currently in hiding, and in fear for his life.
Whether or not that is the case, and leaving aside for now the French Revolution as being part of the overall campaign to destroy Catholicism, and the questions surrounding the Rothschilds and the Vatican Bank loans of 1832, there does exist a document known as the PERMANENT INSTRUCTION OF THE ALTA VENDITA dating from the early 19th century which was published in 1859 by Pope Pius IX. It is the instruction by and to the Freemasons in Italy and France, primarily, outlining the plan for destruction of the Church and her Traditions. It was never meant to be published. But over a hundred years after Catholics were forbidden to be Freemasons, it was published by the very person targeted within its words: the pope.
Following this publication is the first marker in this section of Church history: the First Vatican Council in 1869.
Essentially, the result of the First Vatican Council was Papal Infallibility on matters of faith and morals (on nothing else is he infallible, but that little tidbit gets ignored by the news sorts). The council itself was planned in secret and not announced until June 29, 1868 (the Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul). Pope Piux IX made sure that it could not be corrupted, but it did open a can of worms that comes up later.
The second marker in this mini-era happened on October 13, 1884. (Lots of Church things happen on October 13.) It is an incident not well known outside of the Church, but Pope Leo XIII, one of the longest serving popes after St. Peter, Pope Pius IX, and Pope Saint John Paul II, said Mass in his private chapel, and after the Purification heard a conversation happening in the vicinity of the Tabernacle.
When asked what had happened, he explained that, as he was about to leave the foot of the altar, he suddenly heard voices – two voices, one kind and gentle, the other guttural and harsh. They seemed to come from near the tabernacle. As he listened, he heard the following conversation:
The guttural voice, the voice of Satan in his pride, boasted to Our Lord: “I can destroy your Church.” The gentle voice of Our Lord: “You can? Then go ahead and do so.” Satan: “To do so, I need more time and more power.” Our Lord: “How much time? How much power? Satan: “75 to 100 years, and a greater power over those who will give themselves over to my service.” Our Lord: “You have the time, you will have the power. Do with them what you will.”
Rather fantastic, yes, but given the events of the next one hundred years….
Following this remarkable exchange, Pope Leo XIII, about the only pope during the time period examined here to have no cause for canonization open let alone completed, went to his study and composed his famous prayer to St. Michael the Archangel. The longer form is close enough to the old rite of Exorcism that it is not recommended it be said by the laity, but the shorter form of it is. And in 1886, the short form of the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel was ordered to be said at the conclusion of all low Masses. (This will come up again.)
Fast forward a bit to May 13 to October 13, 1917. These are the dates of one of the most discussed Marian Apparitions, Our Lady of Fatima. For those five months, the Blessed Mother appeared to three peasant children in a small town in Portugal giving them messages for the world. Really, what she had to say was more in the form of prophesy, and a lot of it came true.
The Blessed Mother talked about fashions offensive to God being worn at Mass, a World War worse than the one that was being fought at the time, Russia being in real trouble, and a third secret that has yet to be revealed fully it was so terrible, apparently. But if this account is correct, it would explain a lot:
But some say John XXIII fainted when he read the third secret because it specifically states, according to eyewitnesses, that the Pope would betray the flock and turn his sheep over to the slaughter devised by Lucifer himself. John XXIII fainted because he thought he would be the Pope who would open the door to Satan and that he would be the long-awaited antipope.”
And then there was the dancing sun miracle that happened on October 13, 1917, labelled demonic by critics of the Catholic Church. (A lot more was said, but for these purposes, those can be investigated another time.)
We actually are not under any obligation to believe any of this as apparitions are really a private matter and subject to approval by the Church as being supernatural in origin (Fatima is approved), but when the Blessed Mother wants something, she includes a miracle with the request, and flowers, usually roses. That did happen at Fatima. The Church, for Her part, insists that the third secret actually foretold of the assassination attempt on Pope Saint John Paul II, but a lot of us have our doubts.
Back to the timeline….
In the 1920s, we know from Bella Dodd’s claims, records found after the Berlin Wall fell, and at least one book that is out of print, the homosexual infiltration of the Catholic priesthood began prompted by the people posing as communists, actually. The express purpose was to destroy the priesthood itself by sowing distrust in the men of the cloth. This is not the first time homosexuals were in the priesthood. Records indicate there was in issue with this in the Middle Ages, but that’s a subject for another post. What is important here is that the modern infiltration started almost a hundred years ago, with the express final goal of destroying the priesthood. The reason being, this writer assumes, is that so long as a single priest lives, Christ in the Eucharist can (and will) remain on Earth. Without consecrated hands passed down for 2,000 years when the priesthood candidate places his hands between the bishop’s for blessing at Ordination, there is no Real Presence/Eucharist.
So the installation began, and through the decades these men rose in the ranks until some of them were in positions of power. The abuse cases began, and the cover-up networks got their start. And then came the Trojan Horse of the entire effort: the SECOND Vatican Council. That is where the rubber met the road.
Just as an aside, in the backdrop during all this time, the “elites” aka the Rockefellers and their networks, were busy with a campaign that they still have yet to get the Church to cave into their demands. It’s known as many names, but population control is the goal, and the idea is for the people to participate in eugenics willingly rather than being forced to surrender their fertility.
The Second Vatican Council was very open, was attended by prelates of all sorts, and for all intents and purposes, was hijacked by the modernists. They produced documents, some of which are fine, and others that promote heresy. And when it comes down to it, when the gatekeepers of information “translated” the documents from Latin, what they had to say bore next to no resemblance to what was really said in the documents. The Faithful were very much lied to. In addition, the documents were written by known progressives, one of whom was later forbidden to teach theology by Pope Saint John Paul II. Below the rotten fruits of the council are described, but it should be noted pretty specifically that what the council really changed was the power of the papacy. The council, we are told, called for the establishment of the national bishops councils which pretty much carried out the tactics of the plan of making a mess of the faith.
At the time of the council, more than one cleric who would become well known sounded the alarm that Vatican II, as it is known, was not all it was cracked up to be. One was a German priest by the name of Joseph Ratzinger who would become Pope Benedict XVI. The other was a French priest by the name of Marcel Lefebvre who would later be responsible for a schism that has been left hanging since Benedict’s abdication. Both signed the documents and as will be shown below, both sought to right the Barque of Peter in different ways.
Their voices of alarm were, frankly, ignored. And overnight, for all intents and purposes in Church terms, since movement is usually glacial in time frame, everything changed. It took about five years, but would not have happened without the cooperation of three specific groups of people: papal nuncios who recommend candidates for the episcopacy (bishops), bishops who choose the staff for recruitment and seminaries, and the staffs of said offices. Where these offices were filled by modernists and where “rigidity” (a euphemism for orthodoxy) was used as the reason to weed out candidates for the priesthood is where the mess was (and still is) the worst, including the sexual abuse problem. And by this time, 40 years after the infiltration began, there were plenty of the homosexual group in positions of power (ready to be papal nuncios and bishops) to make the rotten fruit of Vatican II happen. (Michael Rose goes into great detail on this subject in his book Goodbye, Good Men.) The goal, just like the elites’ depopulation plan that included lots of artificial contraception, was to get the faithful to leave the Church and quit practicing the Faith on their own.
Between the closing of Vatican II in 1965 and 1970 is when the mass exodus began, just as the cabal (or the Freemasons, or Communists, take your pick) planned it.
The first real visible change that happened was Mass in Latin was suppressed and Mass was to be said in the vernacular. Service music did not really exist at the time, and vernacular hymns were not all that prevalent. So, choir directors used what they could find which was, in a lot of cases, Dogmatically wrong. The Latin vestments were put away and the Gothic ones pulled out, etc.
The changes put into place also called for all Liturgies to be rewritten, beginning with the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. (The last to be rewritten was the Rite of Exorcism, and the exorcists claim it doesn’t work.) Language and the words used are important. The 1968 translation of the Mass was changed in 1970 (it was essentially changed back to the 1968 version in 2012 by Pope Benedict XVI) and the Holy Sacrifice offered on a stone altar became a meal at a table. What are known as propers were dropped (BIG mistake in this writer’s opinion), as was the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel instituted by Pope Leo XIII. Suddenly, the worship was in dialogue, not directed at the Savior. The changes go on and on. (See “wreckavation” as a practice brought about by Rembert Weakland, Archbishop of Milwaulkee who offered his resignation during the first wave of the sex scandal in 2002 as a gesture, and the Vatican accepted it) Essentially, the sense of wonder and awe, the majesty, and sacredness of the Mass was removed. (So was a lot of logic, but that’s a personal observation.)
This is also the time period when a number of Catholic institutions of higher learning started turning control over to lay boards, the most famous being the Land O’Lakes Conference in 1967 when the Fathers of the Holy Cross surrendered Notre Dame University. This was the period when required Daily Mass for school kids stopped, and all school Masses were 1-3 days a week. The Baltimore Catechism was suppressed. (No real catechesis was being taught, to be honest.) The teaching orders of nuns imploded as they modernized. (Those who did not modernize have healthy populations and vocation numbers.) The Rosary was no longer to be said by the people in the pews during Mass (this is discouraged, actually, but a lot of people did it). The Churches were wreckovated and the music suffered for a lack of trained professionals to lead it. More or less, Catholic culture began to die.
And in the midst of this sea change, word was that Pope Paul VI was preparing an encyclical on the very subject that leaders of the cabal begged Pope Saint Pius X to change: the Church teaching forbidding artificial contraception. (Instead of bowing to their demands, Piux X wrote Pascendi Dominici Gregis, On the Doctrine of Modernists, which took them apart, actually.) Paul VI went along with a lot of the changes, so far. He’d get with the 20th century on this, right?
Wrong.
On July 25, 1968, Pope Paul VI published his encyclical, the vitally important, and not read much at all Humanae Vitae. The interpreters of the news went looking for the bottom line decision, and that is about all most people know about it: the Church affirms the teachings of the Apostles as given to them by Christ. The transfer of life is not to be purposefully stifled by artificial means. Ignored in the aftermath of disbelief that he would not just go along with the world on this were Pope Paul VI’s words which really were prophetic:
Consequences of Artificial Methods Responsible men can become more deeply convinced of the truth of the doctrine laid down by the Church on this issue if they reflect on the consequences of methods and plans for artificial birth control. Let them first consider how easily this course of action could open wide the way for marital infidelity and a general lowering of moral standards. Not much experience is needed to be fully aware of human weakness and to understand that human beings—and especially the young, who are so exposed to temptation—need incentives to keep the moral law, and it is an evil thing to make it easy for them to break that law. Another effect that gives cause for alarm is that a man who grows accustomed to the use of contraceptive methods may forget the reverence due to a woman, and, disregarding her physical and emotional equilibrium, reduce her to being a mere instrument for the satisfaction of his own desires, no longer considering her as his partner whom he should surround with care and affection. Finally, careful consideration should be given to the danger of this power passing into the hands of those public authorities who care little for the precepts of the moral law. Who will blame a government which in its attempt to resolve the problems affecting an entire country resorts to the same measures as are regarded as lawful by married people in the solution of a particular family difficulty? Who will prevent public authorities from favoring those contraceptive methods which they consider more effective? Should they regard this as necessary, they may even impose their use on everyone. It could well happen, therefore, that when people, either individually or in family or social life, experience the inherent difficulties of the divine law and are determined to avoid them, they may give into the hands of public authorities the power to intervene in the most personal and intimate responsibility of husband and wife.
As Mary Eberstadt points out in the introduction to her beautifully written Adam and Eve after the Pill, Paul VI was not the first to point out the pitfalls of the matter, but it was the release of this encyclical that caused more upheaval, more people leaving the Church, more disdain, et al, but even moreso, may well have led to one of the conspiracy world’s enduring theories. The picture on the left is the real Pope Paul VI. Is he the same man as the picture on the right?
This is not the only comparison of photographs of the real Pope Paul VI, and the man thought to be a body double. There is also a witness who claims to have seen the real Pope Paul VI escorted from a canonization Mass at its conclusion, but there is no footage of that, so is it true? Was there an imposter on the Throne of St. Peter from sometime after Humanae Vitae was published until 1978? That’s yet to be answered. (An unapproved Marian apparition containing errors and inconsistencies in Brooklyn claims that he was held hostage in the Vatican, but this has not been confirmed.)
During this time period, on October 13, 1973, (there’s that October 13 again) there was another approved Marian apparition in Akita, Japan, that talks about a time when Satan’s work will be fairly obvious.
The work of the devil will infiltrate even into the Church in such a way that one will see cardinals opposing cardinals, bishops against bishops. The priests who venerate me will be scorned and opposed by their confreres… churches and altars sacked; the Church will be full of those who accept compromises and the demon will press many priests and consecrated souls to leave the service of the Lord.
Again, this is a private revelation that was accompanied with a confirmed miracle of a wooden statue of the Blessed Mother crying tears of human blood. There is no requirement to believe it. But….
What is known is that during the last ten years of Paul VI’s pontificate, the papal nuncios mentioned above elevated a whole lot of bishops who became cardinals and those specific men were very much at the root of the sexual abuse Scandal that exploded in 2002. They were the ones who refused to ordain priests due to “rigidity” in belief in the actual teachings of the Church. What the papal nuncios did is sort of like what President Trump is doing with the judiciary and conservatives: they stuffed modernists into the Episcopacy, at least in Europe and the Americas.
That stopped in 1984 as part of a trio of events that put the Church on a correction course that Francis and the rest of his groupies of the St. Gallen gang are trying to stop.
Remember, 1984 marks the one hundreth year following Pope Leo XIII’s vision described above. (Were Satan’s hundred years up?) At the five year mark of his papacy, Pope Saint John Paul II replaced all of the papal nuncios, including the group left over from the Paul VI years who may not have been that pope’s actual picks, with his own men. JPII also allowed the Tridentine Mass, or Mass in Latin, to be said with the permission of local bishops (this was the mark of the good vs. not good for years. Those who allowed the Indult were in the “good” category). Latin was also allowed back into Mass in the vernacular. And at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) November meeting, the president of the group, the late Archbishop John May, a good and holy man, oversaw the signing of a document in secret that was meant to clean up the seminaries which were openly dens of sodomy and willingly taught error. (I remember reading about this document some time ago, and can’t find a source right off.)
It didn’t work as advertised with the more obstinate of the homosexual hierarchy, that’s for sure. But, it was a start, and in May’s own archdiocese, St. Louis, he had no qualms about laicizing criminal priests and sending them to prison. It happened more than once.
So, what does all this have to do with #UNITEtheCLANS and the current situation we Catholics find ourselves in? Well….
The group of prelates currently with the reigns of power were the ones who passed the “rigidity” test that a whole lot of seminaries had back in the 1950s and 60s. Not every seminary had them, but those that did produced Francis, as well as a circle known as the St. Gallen Group. These men largely became cardinals eventually, but they are/were a group of priests who met in St. Gallen, Switzerland, to plot their moves. Their original choice for the papacy, reportedly, was Joseph Bernardin who died in office as the Archbishop of Chicago in 1996. After Bernardin’s demise of pancreatic cancer ( a triumph for Pope Saint John Paul II, ultimately, outliving his most strident opponent as with Bernardin out of the way, he could get some things done), the St. Gallen group somewhat lost hope. They were aging out of the College of Cardinals and beginning to die off, and sooner or later, the window of opportunity would disappear.
That was until, somehow, they managed to get Pope Benedict XVI to abdicate. Recent leaks from the 2013 Papal Conclave indicate his “resignation” was a deal cut, but when it comes down to it, Francis was installed as the group’s choice, vowing to change the Church in such a way She could not be changed back.
“They” may have gotten Francis in at the Vatican, but lost the White House. Oops.…okay, that’s just a guess.
In the timeline above, what this writer skipped over was the role Lefebvre played in instituting a splinter segment of the Faith that is now led by a group of priests known as the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP). (The Remnant, a traditional Catholic periodical, is published by a family that is part of this splinter.) In 1970, Pope Paul VI (I assume it was the real Paul VI) actually allowed Lefebvre to have his group, where Mass in Latin is the norm and traditional Catholicism is practiced, and be able to ordain priests, etc. (Their seminaries are huge and full on a regular basis.) For decades, this group was looked at with disdain by the main body of the Latin Rite (the main rite of the west). They were considered schismatic even though the actual schism didn’t happen until 1988 when Lefebvre elevated priests to bishop, which he was not allowed to do. FSSP did not follow Lefebvre when he did this.
So, Lefevbre’s splinter of the splinter, and the factions who consider ourselves faithful Catholics, but are not part of the FSSP crowd, have been famously at odds with just about everyone else for quite while over a whole lot of stuff. In fact, there are so many factions, it’s hard to keep up with them all. Well, now that Francis has come out and not just sowed confusion with meetings and useless synods that just talk about issues that the modernists would like to see changed in the Church (nothing has actually changed other than pronouncements on the environment), but has openly said – in a direct heresy – that Catholics should follow the United Nations, he’s managed to get all the practicing factions of Catholicism not still under the spell of the modernist Jesuits and the Spirit of Vatican II all on the same side.
They want you divided.
Well, not anymore, at least not among the informed and serious about their faith Catholics. The clans of Catholicism in the west are more united than not when it comes to Francis now. With declarations that are outright in contradiction to Church teaching, Francis has no standing with those of us who are in the know about that, and who have chosen to stay and fight. Michael Matt of the The Remnant is right about that. And his #UNITEtheCLANS concept and effort really needs to happen. Archbishop Fulton Sheen once said that about every four hundred years or so, the laity saves the Church. It’s beginning to look like we are in that place again as the talking heads of traditional and faithful Catholicism are lining up on the same side against a heretical papacy.
As Francis is a product of what gave us the sexual abuse scandal and more…what got us here was a plot to bring down the Church that was hatched hundreds of years ago and is still in motion. What the Cabal did not count on was that the days of pay, pray and obey are well and truly over as the misdeeds of their plants have been brought to light. The people who remain in the faith do so in spite of all that was done to destroy the Bride of Christ for love of Her. And we will stand shoulder to shoulder to defend Her just as Americans are doing to make America great again, and as the French are protesting in their yellow vests, and as the Italians are with their support of Salvini. In the end, from a certain perspective, it is all part of the same movement.
It’s the birthday of FAKE NEWS! On September 18, 1851, the New York Times began publishing. In honor of their current…uh…status, and this week’s kerfuffle, some mood music is in order.
A translation of the text can be found here, but really, the alternate lyrics are far more meaningful.
Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.
Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though. Even those who are red pilled should think twice before tangling with the men in black.
https://youtu.be/DT3GnJStVEw
With or without the red pill and the Matrix, such actions could get us 8chaned.
And now for some house keeping:
There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules from time to time, like when you turn the sound off on the television because Shepard Smith’s show just started.
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics of civility in political discourse:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.
Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative.
In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed. The following is an expansion of a reading from this coming Sunday’s Lectionary
From the Book of the Prophet Amos 8:1-10
These things the Lord shewed to me: and behold a hook to draw down the fruit. [2] And he said: What seest thou, Amos? And I said: A hook to draw down fruit. And the Lord said to me: The end is come upon my people Israel: I will not again pass by them any more. [3] And the hinges of the temple shall screak in that day, saith the Lord God: many shall die: silence shall be cast in every place. [4] Hear this, you that crush the poor, and make the needy of the land to fail, [5] Saying: When will the month be over, and we shall sell our wares: and the sabbath, and we shall open the corn: that we may lessen the measure, and increase the sicle, and may convey in deceitful balances, [6] That we may possess the needy for money, and the poor for a pair of shoes, and may sell the refuse of the corn? [7] The Lord hath sworn against the pride of Jacob: surely I will never forget all their works. [8] Shall not the land tremble for this, and every one mourn that dwelleth therein: and rise up altogether as a river, and be cast out, and run down as the river of Egypt? [9]And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord God, that the sun shall go down at midday, and I will make the earth dark in the day of light: [10] And I will turn your feasts into mourning, and all your songs into lamentation: and I will bring up sackcloth upon every back of yours, and baldness upon every head: and I will make it as the mourning of an only son, and the latter end thereof as a bitter day.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
Before going any farther, grab a hankie and/or a box of tissues. This was real life, not a Lifetime movie, but will yield the same results.
NEVER FORGET!
Usually, a piece of music which is upbeat and driving goes in this space. Not today. Today we remember the thousands who were killed in the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil in our history, a day that forever changed our world. That being the case, this morning’s musical offering is one so haunting and stirring that the International Olympic Committee appropriated it. (Please ignore the subtitles. This is the best of the American orchestras available on video.)
If time permits the reader, an award winning piece was composed by American John Adams using the words of the people of New York, those left behind, who wrote notes to the lost and left them at Ground Zero. The piece is very modern, but worth a listen once. Being part of a chorus singing it in the venue featured above (Carnegie Hall) was a hot, sweaty, but rewarding experience.
https://youtu.be/kLo8QnYjoxI
Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.
Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though. Please, avoid fighting if you can help it. (Will return to the Hollywood fight scenes on a less solemn day.)
There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules the next time you are in a TSA line and need to remember why flight security is such an ordeal.
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Steve suggests – to be accurate – no shooting at the nuclear weapons, but to be safe about it, don’t event point firearms toward them. I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, request no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.
Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions is always a moral imperative, but for today, we remember.
In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed. From today’s Lectionary.
Third Chapter of St. Paul’s Letter to the Colossians:
Brothers and sisters: If you were raised with Christ, seek what is above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. Think of what is above, not of what is on earth. For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ your life appears, then you too will appear with him in glory.
Put to death, then, the parts of you that are earthly: immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and the greed that is idolatry. Because of these the wrath of God is coming upon the disobedient. By these you too once conducted yourselves, when you lived in that way. But now you must put them all away: anger, fury, malice, slander, and obscene language out of your mouths. Stop lying to one another, since you have taken off the old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed, for knowledge, in the image of its creator. Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all and in all.
And from St. Luke’s version of the Sermon on the Mount:
Raising his eyes toward his disciples Jesus said:
“Blessed are you who are poor, for the Kingdom of God is yours. Blessed are you who are now hungry, for you will be satisfied. Blessed are you who are now weeping, for you will laugh. Blessed are you when people hate you, and when they exclude and insult you, and denounce your name as evil on account of the Son of Man.
“Rejoice and leap for joy on that day! Behold, your reward will be great in heaven. For their ancestors treated the prophets in the same way. But woe to you who are rich, for you have received your consolation. But woe to you who are filled now, for you will be hungry. Woe to you who laugh now, for you will grieve and weep. Woe to you when all speak well of you, for their ancestors treated the false prophets in this way.”
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
Today, we remember….
I know Tom Hanks is the narrator, but this story talks about how Americans come together in the face of tragedy to help each other. It’s what we do. This story was not told until much later than September 11, 2001, but still, it’s pretty amazing.
Are y’all sure you’re ready? This is a short week, and the hump is more or less not in play.
Well, for those who need a pick me up after a long weekend, here you go.
HI HO! AND AWAY WE GO! Silver, gold and any other precious metal or commodity you and yours wish to trade.
Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.
Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though. Please, avoid the following if you can help it.
https://youtu.be/ZmvlcE3zHOg
With all luck the Marquess of Queensberry rules will not be needed.
There are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on New Years Day. Please, review these rules at least as often as you change the battery in the smoke detector…or at least as often as you are supposed to.
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Steve suggests we do not point firearms at the nuclear weapons, and I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, requests no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.
Teasing and trolling the lefties and their bastions, on the other hand is a moral imperative. You all have seen this one, right?
In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed. From yesterday’s Lectionary.
Fifth Chapter of St. Paul’s First Letter to the Thessalonians:
Concerning times and seasons, brothers and sisters, you have no need for anything to be written to you. For you yourselves know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief at night. When people are saying, “Peace and security,” then sudden disaster comes upon them, like labor pains upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness, for that day to overtake you like a thief. For all of you are children of the light and children of the day. We are not of the night or of darkness. Therefore, let us not sleep as the rest do, but let us stay alert and sober. For God did not destine us for wrath, but to gain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us, so that whether we are awake or asleep we may live together with him. Therefore, encourage one another and build one another up, as indeed you do.
This seems to be St. Paul’s version of “take the red pill, dude.” Don’t be blind to what is going on around you and oblivious to the dangers of the world and the darkness of the evil that seeks to destroy us all mind body and soul.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
GOOOOOOOD MORNING FRUITED PLAIN! Time to wake up this Q Tree. Today, is Wednesday, HUMP Day, and that being the case, we could all use a little boost to make it to the weekend.
Thanks to the host of the site for letting me embark on this journey with all of you. For today’s wild ride, some appropriate early morning music is in order:
Don’t ya just love the sound of timpani in the morning?
Okay, so here’s the deal. This is the open thread. This is where we all come to get the news that other Q tree inhabitants think is worth knowing and sharing. Please, post links to any “news” stories quoted, and ask for help if you are stumped as to how to do that. We’re a friendly lot. Someone will be with you shortly, and there is no reason to have to press one for English.
Free speech, and the open exchange and hashing out of ideas is not only allowed, but encouraged. If we all don’t use it, we’re going to lose it. A little incivility goes a long way, though.
Unlike Thomas Edison’s lab, there are a few rules here in the branches of the Q Tree. Our host, Wolfm00n, outlined them in a post on new years day. Please, review these rules at least as often as you file your taxes.
Fellow tree dweller Wheatie gave us some good reminders on the basics:
No food fights.
No running with scissors.
If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.
Steve suggests we do not point firearms at the nuclear weapons, and I, Deplorable Patriot, bossy chick that I am, requests no teasing the animals, pets and wildlife alike.
Teasing and trolling the lefties, on the other hand is a moral imperative.
In the eternal fight against the forces of evil and darkness, unceasing prayer is always needed. Today’s Lectionary bids Psalm 139 be proclaimed:
Deliver me, O Lord, from the evil man: rescue me from the unjust man. [3] Who have devised iniquities in their hearts: all the day long they designed battles. [4] They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent: the venom of asps is under their lips. [5] Keep me, O Lord, from the hand of the wicked: and from unjust men deliver me. Who have proposed to supplant my steps.
[6] The proud have hidden a net for me. And they have stretched out cords for a snare: they have laid for me a stumblingblock by the wayside. [7] I said to the Lord: Thou art my God: hear, O Lord, the voice of my supplication. [8]O Lord, Lord, the strength of my salvation: thou hast overshadowed my head in the day of battle. [9] Give me not up, O Lord, from my desire to the wicked: they have plotted against me; do not thou forsake me, lest they should triumph. [10] The head of them compassing me about: the labour of their lips shall overwhelm them.
[11] Burning coals shall fall upon them; thou wilt cast them down into the fire: in miseries they shall not be able to stand. [12] A man full of tongue shall not be established in the earth: evil shall catch the unjust man unto destruction.[13] I know that the Lord will do justice to the needy, and will revenge the poor. [14] But as for the just, they shall give glory to thy name: and the upright shall dwell with thy countenance.
As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome.
It’s all being done so that no one like Donald Trump will ever be elected again.
At least, that’s how the leadership at the world’s most powerful tech company – and those who control them – sees it. “It” is the active manipulation of search algorithms so as to promote a version of reality that does not exist.
Not that many users of their search feature didn’t notice when search results failed to turn up expected citations, but inside the company known as Google the powers that be were not shy about their disdain for the forty fifth President of the United States, and they actively tried to keep Donald J. Trump’s presidency from becoming a reality by putting forth a version of the truth that was anything but.
At the time, an employee by the name of Zachary Vorhies saw what was happening and was more than a little disturbed about what he saw. That being the case, he began to collect incriminating information from inside Google for whistleblowing purposes. For over a year, Vorhies compiled information. Earlier this year, he took that collection of documents and shared them with the amazingly tefloned and trusted James O’Keefe at Project Veritas.
“I gave the documents to Project Veritas, I had been collecting the documents for over a year. And the reason why I collected these documents was because I saw something dark and nefarious going on with the company and I realized that there were going to not only tamper with the elections, but use that tampering with the elections to essentially overthrow the United States.”… “These documents were available to every single employee within the company that was full-time. And so as a fulltime employee at the company, I just searched for some keywords and these documents started to pop up. And so once I started finding one document and started finding keywords for other documents and I would enter that in and continue this cycle until I had a treasure trove and archive of documents that clearly spelled out the system, what they’re attempting to do in very clear language.”
The initial Project Veritas interview featured Mr. Vorhies incognito, but it was not long before an anonymous Twitter user doxxed him. Following the outing, Google went to work sending him a cease and desist order, demanding to know with whom he had shared the documents, and beginning the process to have Mr. Vorhies declared mentally ill or incompetent.
And so he returned to Project Veritas to tell the rest of the story including his detonation of his dead man’s switch. Originally, it was his threat to Google. In the end, Mr. Vorhies realized the best thing was to just put it all out in the public sphere.
CORRECTION: In the piece, this writer wrongly posted that Lex Wexner is the founder of Victoria’s Secret. He is not. Wexner bought the store(s) from the actual founder and added it to his retail empire in the 1980s. The actual founder’s concept was that the retailer would be a place for men to purchase lingerie for their wives. Wexner turned the tables and marketed toward women.
What if it is all a big lie?
Just like the possibility that Ancel Keyes’s hypothesis about fat and cholesterol in the diet making humans fat is most likely not true across the board, what if the battle of the sexes, men vs. women as it is sold to the masses, is just a way to play with minds and souls of Americans to give up our bodies for something sordid.
And what if an Ohio born billionaire was one of the main people to push what amounts to the message that women dressing like a sluts gets you love in the bedroom if nowhere else (but could lead to something much more gratifying) on an unsuspecting American public.
In one of a series of posts on July 8, Q, the master of all things conspiracy related, told the readers to look into Les Wexner, the founder of Victoria’s Secret, and as it turns out, newly indicted sex hound Jeffrey Epstein’s main client when he ran a hedge fund. Wexner essentially gave Epstein his Manhattan “house” that used to be a school sometime back.
Looking at the basics on Wexner’s bio, he’s 81 as of this writing, but only married in 1993 to a woman 24 years his junior. The couple has four children. For a lot of men, that, we are given to understand, amounts to a successful life. He was also a registered Republican until last year. Wexner owns a yacht. On the surface, he’s your typical successful self-made man.
Prior to his marriage, Wexner went into the women’s clothing business starting with the mall chain store The Limited, and gradually added brands to his empire, corrupting more than one along the way. Iconic label Abercrombie & Fitch was one that went from what was classically all American preppy to juniors exposure clothes practically overnight after its acquisition.
Wexner’s label that most titillates, though, is “Victoria’s Secret,” a lingerie, foundations, and intimate clothing line that played off the idea that no one really had any idea what was under Queen Victoria’s high necked, black bombazine dresses that she wore in memory of her late husband with whom she had several children.
The woman obviously had a sex life. Why would she have not worn animal print and black lace without the world knowing?
The thing is, racy and lacy underthings, so long as they are covered, are really left up to the imagination. Victoria’s Secret, once they branched out into clothing, made women dressing on the provocative side seem normal.
And THAT is really not the American way.
It was at the time Vicki’s Secret rose to prominence, though, playing into the insecurities of American culture that were being exploited at a number of different levels of entertainment, and the self help industry, and thus, messaging to the masses. Women everywhere were more or less told dress like this if you want a man, and the love and security that is supposed to come with him. That goes hand in hand with the publication of The Rules in the 1990s which told the ladies to be creatures unlike any other, pamper yourself, play hard to get, and never accept a date for the weekend after Wednesday. (Later came the dating sites that promised love and a relationship, but were really disappointing meat markets with $24.95 a month membership fee.)
Women, supposedly being somewhat fashionable creatures who tend to travel in packs, and often need the approval of other women before making decisions, had already gone through the early waves of feminism, which former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov claims was a campaign foisted on the world to break up the family. The bikini had come into our lives when previously exposing that much skin was just not done. The early novels of the romance industry that revived in the 1970s were known to feature rape, and bodice ripping which was fine so long as the hero of the novel was doing the deed. Television and movies programmed stories of women who were divorced, and making it without a man. The message was it was okay, and marriage really didn’t matter.
All of this was tossed into a culture where girls are taught from the cradle to be proactive in protecting themselves from men. Hopefully.
Why? Because men are not to be trusted. They are only after one thing. (And the irony of rape supposedly being a female fantasy doesn’t strike anyone as odd. Unbelievable.)
Of course, this is not universally true, but it is contradictory to the Victoria’s Secret message: men aren’t going to want you if you don’t dress this way, well under your outside clothes anyway. (And now, women’s “fashion” includes full coverage of spandex that leaves NOTHING to the imagination, and the poor guys have to look at the ceiling to keep from being called perverts.)
What a mess.
So what does this have to do with Jeffrey Epstein and Les Wexner?
Epstein, anyway, is turning out to be the proverbial dirty old man the girls were all taught to avoid. He, and Wexner by virtue of the products he sells which includes the amazingly smelly Bath & Body Works, are part of an industry that feeds into the American notion of men vs. women, the perpetual war spurred by self help books and videos, how to guides, and other assorted information widely available for people looking for love in all the wrong places – and taking it really personally when failure occurs.
And what is really sad, the result is the sexes not trusting each other and when it comes to that it does not look like much is going to change anytime soon.
A few years back, a marketing researcher for the big names by the name of Clotaire Rapaille, a Frenchman, wrote a very interesting book about his research into the American market. His theme is essentially that the American culture is young, very young, compared to other parts of the world, and growing up is not happening at this point. We successfully export the products of youth, but really have not begun to mature as a culture. In his estimation, sex, love, and seduction translate to violence, false expectations, and manipulation in the United States. As Victoria’s Secret was one of his clients, that puts them as part of the problem, regardless of Rapaille explaining away the issue in chapter 3 of The Culture Code.
And the founder of Victoria’s Secret more or less bankrolled Jeffrey Epstein in the beginning.
No, this is not a deep dive on either figure in the pedogate scandal. The main point is to recognize that they are players in perpetuating the objectification and sexualization of females at all ages. These are dots that need to be connected in the process of the diving for more information.
Sometime on Friday, May 3, 2019, an anonymous poster at VOAT put up what is billed as the largest collection of quotes regarding the New World Order – and the attempt to impose it on mankind without our consent – said by a shocking array of public figures over the last two hundred years or more.
The list is spreading around the Q-verse online.
What is notable about it, is that some quotes, without cheerleading the movement, recognize that it is/was happening. In one way, this list gives a scope to the clandestine war Q and the team are fighting that is hard to fathom. Expanding thinking is necessary to take it all in.
This list is not this writer’s work. It was compiled by someone out there in the great beyond – and those of us who are the messengers are grateful for the effort.
Below is an extensive and thought-provoking list of quotes on the totalitarian New World Order, said by some of the most respected and well-known men and women of our time.
Despite all the facts that are out there, and there are plenty, many still consider New World Order as a silly conspiracy. Hopefully, this small piece of information can make readers to question how the world and the people are really controlled and manipulated. The path is towards a ruthless, totalitarian society where a small elite rules the population that have been depraved morally, economically and spiritually. Wake up, start exploring and wake up others
Because there are too many quotes to fit into a single post, it has been split into three separate ones.
Quotes on the New World Order, part 1 of 3
”Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.” —Richard Salant, former president, CBS News
“The ‘affirmative task’ before us is to “create a New World Order.” –VP Joe Biden, speech Import Export Bank, April 5, 2013
“We will succeed in the Gulf. And when we do, the world community will have sent an enduring warning to any dictator or despot, present or future, who contemplates outlaw aggression. The world can therefore seize this opportunity to fufill the long-held promise of a new world order – where brutality will go unrewarded, and aggression will meet collective resistance.” –President George HW Bush, State of the Union Address 1991
“Each of us has the hope to build a New World Order.” –President Richard Nixon, Hangzhou, China, February 1972
“We are moving toward a new world order, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road.” —Mikhail Gorbachev, 1987
“I think that his [Obama’s] task will be to develop an overall strategy for America in this period, when really a New World Order can be created.” —Henry Kissinger, CNBC 2008
“In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn’t such a great idea after all.” —Strobe Talbot, Deputy Secretary of State, TIME, July l992
“The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control. Do I mean a conspiracy? Yes, I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, incredibly evil in intent.” –Rep. Larry P. MacDonald, killed in Korean Air Lines 007, 1983
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.” —David Rockefeller, NWO Banker
“We have before us the opportunity to forge, for ourselves and for future generations, a New World Order. A world where the rule of law, not the law of the jungle, rules all nations. When we are successful–and we will be–we have a real chance at this New World Order. An order in which a credible United Nations can use its peacekeeping forces to fulfill the promise and vision of its founders.” —George H.W. Bush, March 21, 1991
“One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order.” –K.M. Heaton, National Educator
“Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.” –Dr. Henry Kissinger, Evians, France, 1991
“The New Deal is plainly an attempt to achieve a working socialism and avert a social collapse in America; it is extraordinarily parallel to the successive ‘policies’ and ‘Plans’ of the Russian experiment. Americans shirk the word ‘socialism’, but what else can one call it?” —H.G. Wells The New World Order 1939
“We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.” —Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr., historian, special assistant to John F. Kennedy
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by consent or conquest.” –James Paul Warburg [son of Paul Warburg, the author of the Federal Reserve Act] February 7, 1950
“In short, the ‘house of world order’ will have to be built from the bottom up rather than f rom the top down. It will look like a great ‘booming, buzzing confusion,’ to use William James’ famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault.” —Richard N. Gardner, former deputy assistant Secretary of State for International Organisations under Kennedy and Johnson, and a member of the Trilateral Commission, wrote this in the April, 1974 issue of the Council on Foreign Relation’s(CFR) journal Foreign Affairs(pg. 558)
“Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government – a bureaucratic elite.” –Senator William Jenner, 1954
“We must believe that it is the darkest before the dawn of a beautiful new world. We will see it when we believe it.” —Saul Alinsky, author, Rules for Radicals [mentor of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama]
“The people will be crushed under the burden of taxes, loan after loan will be floated; after having drained the present, the State will devour the future.” —Fredric Bastiat
“The Final Act of the Uruguay Round, marking the conclusion of the most ambitious trade negotiation of our century, will give birth – in Morocco – to the World Trade Organization, the third pillar of the New World Order, along with the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund.” Government of Morocco, advertisement, New York Times, April 1994
“The new world order that will answer economic, military, and political problems, he said, ‘urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful through the federal approach.” —Nelson Rockefeller, New York Times, February 1962
“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” —Franklin D. Roosevelt, letter to Col. House, November 21, l933
“…all of us here at the policy-making level have had experience with directives…from the White House…. The substance of them is that we shall use our grant-making power so as to alter our life in the United States that we can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.” —H. Rowan Gaither, Jr., President – Ford Foundation (told to Norman Dodd, Congressional Reese Commission 1954)
“Our new world rests on order. The danger is disorder. And in today’s world, it can now spread like contagion.” —Tony Blair
Quotes on the New World Order, part 2 of 3
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.” —David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991
“Countless people will hate the new world order and will die protesting against it.” —H.G. Wells, The New World Order, 1939
“The New World Order cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the single most significant component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change its perceptions.” –Dr. Henry Kissinger, World Action Council, April 19, 1994
“From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, Bela Kun, Rosa Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played a definitely recognizable role in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century, and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads, and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire.” —Winston Churchill, 1922
“By the end of this decade we will live under the first One World Government that has ever existed in the society of nations… a government with absolute authority to decide the basic issues of survival. One world government is inevitable.” —Karol Wojtyla (Pope John Paul II)
“Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.” —Woodrow Wilson
“All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a NEW WORLD ORDER.” —Robert Kennedy, presidential candidate and US Attorney General, 1967
“The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world.” –M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, International Conciliation magazine, 1919
“Fundamental Bible-believing people do not have the right to indoctrinate their children in their religious beliefs because we, the state, are preparing them for the year 2000, when America will be part of a one-world global society and their children will not fit in.” –Nebraska State Sen. Peter Hoagland, radio interview, 1983.
“The old world order changed when this war-storm broke. The old international order passed away as suddenly, as unexpectedly, and as completely as if it had been wiped out by a gigantic flood, by a great tempest, or by a volcanic eruption. The old world order died with the setting of that day’s sun and a new world order is being born while I speak, with birth-pangs so terrible that it seems almost incredible that life could come out of such fearful suffering and such overwhelming sorrow.” —Nicholas Murray Butler, Union League of Philadelphia, Nov. 27, 1915
“What is being arranged in Washington these days is really a gigantic experiment in internationalism. We are witnessing the creation of a supranational control of the world’s necessities. The old notions of sovereignty no longer govern the facts. We have entered upon another phase of political unification, a phase greater in its methods to the formation of national states in the nineteenth century. This is the birth of the League of Nations.” —Walter Lippman American writer, journalist, political commentator; one of the fathers of propaganda; NWO Corporate Media mouthpiece, April 1917
“The term Internationalism has been popularized in recent years to cover an interlocking financial, political, and economic world force for the purpose of establishing a World Government. Today Internationalism is heralded from pulpit and platform as a ‘League of Nations’ or a ‘Federated Union’ to which the United States must surrender a definite part of its National Sovereignty. The World Government plan is being advocated under such alluring names as the ‘New International Order,’ ‘The New World Order,’ ‘World Union Now,’ ‘World Commonwealth of Nations,’ ‘World Community,’ etc. All the terms have the same objective; however, the line of approach may be religious or political according to the taste or training of the individual.” –A Memorial to be Addressed to the House of Bishops and the House of Clerical and Lay Deputies of the Protestant Episcopal Church in General Convention, October 1940
“In the first public declaration on the Jewish question since the outbreak of the war, Arthur Greenwood, member without portfolio in the British War Cabinet, assured the Jews of the United States that when victory was achieved an effort would be made to found a new world order based on the ideals of ‘justice and peace.’” –“New World Order Pledged to Jews,” New York Times, October 1940
“The statement went on to say that the spiritual teachings of religion must become the foundation for the new world order and that national sovereignty must be subordinate to the higher moral law of God.” –American Institute of Judaism, New York Times, December 1942
The “new world order that is in the making must focus on the creation of a world of democracy, peace and prosperity for all.” —Nelson Mandela, Philadelphia Inquirer, October 1994
The renewal of the nonproliferation treaty was described as important “for the welfare of the whole world and the new world order.” —Hosni Mubarak, Egyptian president, New York Times, April 1995
“I would support a Presidential candidate who pledged to take the following steps: … At the end of the war in the Persian Gulf, press for a comprehensive Middle East settlement and for a ‘new world order’ based not on Pax Americana but on peace through law with a stronger U.N. and World Court.” —George McGovern, Democratic presidential candidate, New York Times, February 1991
“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is dedicated to one-world government, financed by a number of the largest tax exempt foundation (i.e. Rockefeller), and wielding such power and influence over our lives in the areas of finance, business, labor, military, education, and mass communication media, that it should be familiar to every American concerned with good government and with preserving and defending the US Constitution and our free-enterprise system. Yet, the nation’s right-to-know machinery, the news media; usually so aggressive in exposures to inform our people, remain silent when it comes to the CFR, its members and their activities. The CFR is the establishment. Not only does it have influence and power in key decision-making positions at the highest levels of government to apply pressure from above, but it also finances and uses individuals and groups to bring pressure from below, to justify the high level decisions for converting the US from a sovereign Republic into a servile member of a one-world dictatorship.” –Rep. John R. Rarick (D-LA)
“We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt’s and Winston Churchill’s vision for peace for the post-war period.” —Richard Gephardt, Dem. presidential candidate, Wall Street Journal, September 1990
“My country’s history, Mr. President, tells us that it is possible to fashion unity while cherishing diversity, that common action is possible despite the variety of races, interests, and beliefs we see here in this chamber. Progress and peace and justice are attainable. So we say to all peoples and governments: Let us fashion together a new world order.” –Dr. Henry Kissinger, address to UN General Assembly, October 1975
“Some even believe we are a part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty and I am proud of it.” —David Rockefeller, Memoirs.
“The interests behind the Bush administration, such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission – founded by Brzezinski for David Rockefeller – and the Bilderberg Group have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years.” –Dr. Johannes Koeppl, Former German Ministry for Defence official and advisor to NATO
“The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts.” —Henry Ford
“We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world.” —Arnold Toynbee, speech before the Institute for the Study of International Affairs in Copenhagen, June l931
Quotes on the New World Order, part 3 of 3
“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas.” —G. Brock Chisholm, co-founder of the World Federation for Mental Health, former director of UN World Health Organization
“Big Brother in the form of an increasingly powerful government and in an increasingly powerful private sector will pile the records high with reasons why privacy should give way to national security, to law and order, to efficiency of operation, to scientific advancement and the like.” —William O. Douglas U. S. Supreme Court Justice
“The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen….At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties.” —John F. Hylan, NYC Mayor, 1922
“The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments’ plans. “ —Benjamin Disraeli, first Jewish Prime Minister of England, Coningsby, the New Generation
“The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes.” —Felix Frankfurter, Supreme Court Justice, 1952 “A New World Order” —Hubert H. Humphrey, speech before University of Pennsylvania, June 1977
“A world government can intervene militarily in the internal affairs of any nation when it disapproves of their activities.” —Kofi Annan, U.N. Secretary General
“The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies [marxism/fascism/socialism v. democracy/capitalism] to enable them [the Illuminati] to divide larger and larger portions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other.” —Myron Fagan
“The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes.” —Benjamin Disraeli, Prime Minister of England, Coningsby, the New Generation
“What is important is to dwell upon the increasing evidence of the existence of a secret conspiracy, throughout the world, for the destruction of organized government and the letting loose of evil.” —Christian Science Monitor, editorial, June 19th, l920
“The government of the Western nations, whether monarchical or republican, had passed into the invisible hands of a plutocracy, international in power and grasp. It was, I venture to suggest, this semioccult power which….pushed the mass of the American people into the cauldron of World War I.” –MajorGeneral J.F.C. Fuller, British military historian, l941
“Fifty men have run America, and that’s a high figure.” —Joseph Kennedy, The New York Times, July 26th, l936
“The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for “the purpose of promoting disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence into an all-powerful one-world government.” —Harper’s, July 1958
“Whatever happens, whatever the outcome, New World Order is going to come into the world…It will be buttressed with police power…When peace comes this time there is going to be a New World Order of social justice. It cannot be another Versailles.” —Edward VIII who became King on January 20, 1936, and abdicated eleven months later. He became the Duke of Windsor, and in July, 1940, he became the governor of the Bahamas.
“It bends governments to its will sometimes by promises, sometimes by threats. It has found its way into every class of Society, and forms an invisible and irresponsible power, an independent government, as it were, within the body corporate of the lawful state.” —Pope Leo XIII, 1902
“Three hundred men, all of-whom know one another, direct the economic destiny of Europe and choose their successors from among themselves.” —Walter Rathenau, head of German General Electric, 1909. Rathenau was Prime Minister of Germany until he was assassinated in 1922.
“There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960’s, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments…my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known…because the American branch of this organisation (sometimes called the “Eastern Establishment”) has played a very significant role in the history of the United States in the last generation.” –Dr. Carroll Quigley, a professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University. Dr. Quigley was Bill Clinton’s mentor while he was at Georgetown University.
“We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.” —John Swinton, chief-of-staff, New York Times, NY Press Club 1880
“There is only one thing in this world, and that is to keep acquiring money and more money, power and more power. All the rest is meaningless.” —Napoleon Bonaparte
“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.” — Johann W. von Goethe
“If the New World Order agenda is not realized by the terrorist attacks on America and if American’s don’t agree to give up their weapons and relinquish their sovereignty to the New World Order, the next attack will be the use of chemical, biological and/or atomic warfare against the American people. The architects of the New World Order will not hesitate to use as a last resort an atomic or hydrogen bomb in a major American city.” —Reference Op Ed page of the New York Times 9/24/01
“There exists a shadowy government, with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all the checks and balances, and free from the law itself.” —Daniel K. Inouye, US Senator 1977
“The truth of the matter is that you do have those standby provisions, and the statutory emergency plans are there whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism, apprehend, invoke the military, and arrest Americans and hold them in detention camps.” –U.S. Representative Henry Gonzalez, Aug 29th, 1994
“Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order.” –Mikhail Gorbachev, United Nations address, December, 1988
“It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance.” –George HW Bush, 1992
Novus ordo seclorum can be translated as “A new order of the ages.” It was proposed by Charles Thomson, the Latin expert who was involved in the design of the Great Seal of the United States, to signify “the beginning of the new American Era” as of the date of the Declaration of Independence.
