“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
I’m probably one of the few people who loves Exodus because it is BOOK TWO – and 2 is the only even prime number. I should note that this little tautology is a purely PSYCHOLOGICAL uniqueness, since evenness is really just divisibility by an arbitrary prime number – TWO – and we could define “evenness” as clean divisibility by THREE if we wanted – and THREE would then still be the only EVEN prime number. See how that works? Two is special for a lot of other reasons, but I love it for a stupid one that makes no REAL sense. But that’s kind of the way beauty is. Anybody who has ever found a person attractive for a stupid physical reason like odd eyes or even dentition knows what I’m talking about.
Women are just a good thing. Even the bad ones!
OK – where was I? Ah, yes. EXODUS!
https://twitter.com/FreshUnlimited/status/1059814449085849607
Our little exodus from The Conservative Treehouse – in some cases incomplete, in others probably temporary, and in any case not absolutely necessary – intrigues me.
Bear in mind that the reason I created this site to BEGIN WITH was that I sensed that Q would be used to divide the Treehouse, and I wanted that DIVISION to be minimal. Kinda like choosing the lowest prime number other than UNITY to define evenness. (In that way, TWO actually is special. Just sayin’.) The way in which I hoped to stave off division was to keep Q talk OFF the Treehouse. That is STILL my plan.
If we can, that is.
But….
A fellow Treeper asked me about the exodus in another venue, and – of the many theories I have about it – I gave them the one I would probably choose as number TWO, but growing toward number ONE even now: “Not sure what’s going on there – this may be an important way to secure the Treehouse. The libs are going to go after Q in a big way once the indictments are unsealed. Anything Q will be shut down, is my opinion. I think SD is smart to kick us off. We are going to be the whipping boys and beat-down girls of the left at that point. Not a problem for me, but the Treehouse must stay open.”
Now, in some ways, this is just another tautology. I created the site for reason of a theory of its eventual division, and now I’m citing that eventual theoretical forced division as the reason for the current anticipatory division. In other words, one more self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe not the EXACT one I originally envisioned, but close.
Nevertheless, I think this really is an example of BOY SCOUT PREPARATION – or at least it will be if “Qews” are kicked out of every Silicon Valley platform, as Q expects.
A close up for those who can’t see the image:
Notice that Praying Medic is now using IMAGES to thwart automated censorship.
This is one of the reasons I retired from IT. I did not believe that my work was in good hands. I believed (and still believe) that IT, and AI in particular, was largely in IMMORAL GLOBALIST HANDS.
By the way, Praying Medic HAS taken notice of Sundance’s views on Q, and he respects them – but does NOT take them as an expert opinion. With no disrespect toward Sundance, I tend to agree.
Sundance at Conservative treehouse is one of the premier experts on the FBI, the DOJ, and FISA. He's spent thousands of hours learning about these subjects which makes his opinions on those matters among the most informed.
If Praying Medic would have consulted “Wolf Moon who spent 3 hours trying to figure out Q posts”, that person would have told PM that Q was most likely a very sharp, almost cutting-edge LARP, having a LOT of fun.
But “Wolf Moon who read hundreds of hours of Q posts until he was actually DEBUNKING bad Q interpretations” – well, that guy pretty much agrees with Praying Medic. In fact, “Loose Q Proof Face-Palming and Debunking Wolf Moon” is quite proud of his debunks, one of which gave insight into how Google Book searches may work. And I didn’t have to work for slimy Democrat-helping, election-cheating, red-diaper Google to figure it out, either.
But in the process of all that stuff, I came to believe what I have repeatedly said – that Q is a brilliant freedom-of-information PSY-OP, using the anon-captivating language of LARP, that is going to work around the Marxist Fake News media when that media goes FULL BORE FAKE – very soon.
SO – here is the deal.
I think there really IS a good chance that “Q-hovah’s Witnesses” a.k.a. “the Qews” are gonna get kicked off every platform. The REASON is that Q will be countering a NARRATIVE that has been planned by the Soviet American media and crypto-Soviet “deep state” for some time – a narrative to CHALLENGE prosecution of those crypto-Soviets who “crossed the line” and broke the law. A narrative that Q knows and that Q has actually TESTED. (*WINK*, *WINK* – see, I really did read a LOT of Q posts very deeply).
Why would we expect anything else? They probably won’t call us “running dog bourgeoisie“, but I am betting they will have some angry names for us.
So there you have it. I expect that we will eventually be closed down for being a kind of “Trump propaganda“.
Good. Because “Trump propaganda” will be TRUTH, and I LIKE ME SOME TRUTH.
Enjoy the show. 😉
W
The featured image in this article shows precisely WHY I refused to dissociate myself from the Treehouse. It is also my challenge to each and every person who posts here, to listen to Q, and listen to Sundance, and NOT to voices of division.
This conversation is exemplary. Let’s look at it in full. The thread appears to now be locked – a good idea.
Let me start by saying I mean no disrespect to those individuals who enjoy the riddles posted by an unknown entity who writes under the nom de plume “Q”. However, the time has come where aspects within the well promoted “Q narrative” are now a risk and must be addressed. Please bear with me…. The baseline – In the aggregate the “Q narrative” has been: there’s a coordinated effort by President Trump and officials to expose, and confront, corrupt entities within the “deep state.” The essential element within the narrative, as pushed by the “Q” entity, is that President Trump is aware of, and coordinating, some larger plan.
Hopefully that brief baseline summary is not controversial, and most would agree that’s been the structural and purposeful intent of the overall message.
Structurally, and factually, this claim is false. However, that’s not the problem. Within this theory, that seems to have garnered a considerable following, there is now a danger to the office of the president; and however well-intentioned the theory initially might have been, it urgently needs to stop being spread.
As you have seen recently, yesterday, President Trump is forcefully repeating that he has not had any contact with current Acting Attorney General Matt Whitaker. Part of the reason President Trump has to do this is because this false narrative, the “Q Theory”, has been drum-beaten by well-intentioned supporters. Many of those supporters, genuinely good people, have believed this coordinated theory. However, it is false.
Conversely, all of President Trump’s opposition is trying to attach President Trump to the actions and intents of his new Acting Attorney General. The false “Q” narrative helps them.
Currently the Trump opposition, writ large, would love nothing more than to frame the President over taking executive action that puts the Mueller investigation at risk; and thereby attaches him to some form of obstruction. If people keep pushing the “Q theory” of President Trump orchestrating moves; that narrative is adverse to his actual interests.
That false narrative actually impedes Whitaker from diminishing Mueller as a sword of Damocles over the office of the president.
The opposition to the office of the president desire to have the office of Attorney General in a position of compromise, and subsequent recusal. This was the reason why there was such a push by that same opposition to force the recusal of AG Jeff Sessions; whereby the DOJ is then hamstrung in the ability of the AG to defend the executive.
So long as opposition can rely on, and manipulate, embed (and likely corrupt) DOJ and FBI officials toward their goals, things are in their favor. If the opposition can no longer work around the AG, their efforts at removing President Trump are more difficult.
If the AAG is both: (A) independent from the White House; and (B) simultaneously looking out for the genuine interests of the executive [note: not mutually exclusive] and confronting historic corrupt behavior, those within the entrenched DC system have a much harder time trying to frame the President out of office.
President Trump’s political and administrative opposition didn’t care about the “Q narrative” (which is false), because it was of no consequence for a bunch of people to mistakenly think that President Trump and Jeff Sessions were coordinating (they weren’t) an effort against the deep state (never happening) while they had the AG recused. However, with a fully empowered AG that same message (which is false) will be leveraged to oppose any adverse action by Matthew Whitaker; and demand his recusal.
Can you see how the dynamic shifts?
Does that make sense?
This is how the “Q Narrative” now becomes a liability.
I’ve not been confrontational to the game of the “Q riddles” until recently. To each his own; and most of the stuff is harmless and the community seems to have fun with it. However, once I saw what was predictably going to happen; and strongly sensing Sessions was about to get dispatched; and against a mountain of research, and suspicions, I have gone through about a genuine network of information; I saw the warning signs and began trying to stop the spread of the “Q” virus – at least on this website.
So my message to those loosely connected/tenuously labeled, “former intelligence officials”, ie. those behind the Q message board, is to please stop with the “trust the plan” stuff.
If you need to modify the messaging because you are financially dependent on keeping the game alive, then so be it…. Same request applies to the downstream benefactors… But please modify the narrative to a more factual and substantive one.
[If it helps, soon there will be a reality-based origin for you to modify the riddles]
The key point here is for all of you to please stop pushing a narrative that President Trump is somehow coordinating or influencing an investigative or confrontational outcome. He isn’t; he never has been; and he will not be in the future. However, that narrative, false though it always has been, is now a genuine problem. I am making this request politely and hopefully you can digest the problem as the landscape has changed.
President Trump is spending an inordinate amount of time reaffirming the reality that he has no connection to anything AG Matthew Whitaker has done in the past; or might do in the future.
If “Q riddle originators” and “Q riddle followers” keep pushing this “trust the plan” narrative, in any form – but specifically as it relates to the involvement of the President (which is false), you will actually be hurting the administration; and the larger goal of those who are factually trying to work internally within the corrupt systems to bring the needed change within the institutions.
President Trump will need to confirm a new U.S. Attorney General (Sessions replacement) and likely a new DAG (Rosenstein replacement), as well as a new FBI Director and Deputy in the near future (Wray and Bowditch). All of them have been Mueller enablers [see here] And, with the FL and AZ senate race results tenuous, there may be a diminishing margin for controversy (aggressive, actual swamp draining candidates) in the nomination process.
Please, and thank you.
At first it may seem that Sundance has asked us very nicely to deny what many of us believe – or at least to not talk about it on CTH. But what do we believe? Let me state it in a kind of general form, so we are not being evasive by a Snopesism of some kind. We believe:
There is some kind of plan to “drain the swamp”
Our VSGPOTUS is at least partially informed of it
We are asked to “trust this plan”
These would be the “THREE PILLARS” of the Q Cult, if I may call ourselves that. There is a plan. President Trump knows something about it. We can trust it.
I personally would be a liar if I said I didn’t believe all three parts of this. Our President would be an IDIOT if this wasn’t true. And Trump is not an idiot. It may be politically convenient to pretend it’s not true, but I don’t do that. In fact, I believe some stuff that makes a lot of people want to kill me, discredit me, shut me up, or all of the above. THAT stuff is hard. Believing our President has a plan to drain the swamp? That’s a no-brainer.
Now – I can certainly go on the Treehouse and not talk about The Three Pillars of the Q Cult, or even HINT at them. But I can’t drop that belief HERE, or anywhere else, including Twitter.
If THAT is OK with Sundance, then I am still a Treeper. But that is not my decision.
Now – is it possible to hold the “Pillars of Q” and not allege that President Trump is a criminal who is at the mercy of Bob Mueller? Particularly on issues of AAG Whitaker? Well, I think so. Because I believe the following:
President Trump is very, very smart
President Trump is always very careful about obeying THE LAW
The Plan is mostly if not almost totally not of Trump’s design
The Plan is mostly of military and military legal origin
The Plan is thoroughly reviewed by lawyers as an ongoing process
The Plan is reactive, changeable, ongoing, and intelligent
The Plan adapts to President Trump’s desires and suggestions (he IS CiC)
President Trump trusts The Plan and adapts to the advice of its designers
The Plan is 100% LEGAL and AUTHORIZED
Anything Illegal has been carefully SCRUBBED from The Plan
Trump is being carefully protected from illegalities or pitfalls
If President Trump says something in a tweet, it is TRUE
If President Trump says something in a tweet, it was part of The Plan
President Trump’s tweets pass by “Q” precisely for this reason
President Trump not knowing things, to obey the law, is part of The Plan
Absolutely NONE of this falls outside NORMAL ORGANIZATIONAL ETHICS
This is exactly how President Obama was protected from illegalities MOST OF THE TIME, but NOT ALWAYS, and THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE
The Plan deals with stuff that is so far above most people’s pay grades, there are some parts that are known by more ALIENS than HUMANS
Sorry – I had to throw that in to demonstrate no limits on secrecy
Does everybody see where I’m going with this?
Now, some people will say I’m just constructing a paranoid fantasy here. Well, I’m sorry, but….
THIS IS HOW I GO ON VACATION.
My wife plays the part of the military, and my dog plays the part of the aliens. OK – to be honest, sometimes my WIFE is the VSGPOTUS and I’M the military. And sometimes the dog… well, you get the point.
Are we clear? We are saying Trump is not an idiot, he’s an honest guy, and he plans stuff. He HIRES people who plan stuff. Our government has people who plan stuff. Some of it is secret, but it is all on the up-and-up under TRUMP.
Am I still a Treeper? Hell yes.
Because I TELL THE TRUTH. And the TRUTH HAS NO AGENDA.
The End.
W Even my damn dog is Q. Because we’re honest, well-intended, and we plan.
I want to directly address Q’s latest, very long post (number 2381 on qanon.pub). I believe that it is critical for sorting out what is happening right now – not only with Attorney General Jeff Sessions, but also with FBI Director Christopher Wray.
Jeff Sessions is directly addressed by Q’s post. However, it was by focusing on somebody who is APPARENT in the post – but not named directly – WRAY – that I can now understand what is happening, and more importantly, WHY.
We begin with Q’s post.
Statement release 10.9.18 [p_AUTHORITY1]
General Statement:
We understand that there is extreme fatigue and frustration re: the wheels of justice [slow].
Exclude emotion and personal desire, instead use logic and critical thinking based on situational awareness [undo a lifetime of evil & corruption [infestation] in the span of less than 2 years w/ a corrupt DOJ & FBI in place?]. [Process & Planning – Law and Order] [Military OP]
How can you make arrests [non military] prior to first fully cleaning out corrupt elements [at the top] of those departments [FBI][DOJ] that oversee ‘investigation & prosecution’ in the United States [they [themselves] are the very ones engaged in the illegal treasonous acts]?
James Comey, Director – FIRED
Andrew McCabe, Deputy Director – FIRED
Jim Rybicki, Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor – FIRED
James Baker, General Counsel – FIRED
Bill Priestap, Director of Counterintelligence (Strzok’s boss) – Cooperating witness [power removed]
Peter Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence – FIRED
Lisa Page, Office of General Counsel – FIRED/FORCED
Mike Kortan, Assistant Director for Public Affairs – FIRED
Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to Comey – FIRED
David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section [NAT SEC – HRC email invest] – FIRED/FORCE
John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General – FIRED
Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted 2x – cooperating witness [power removed] – TERMINATION IMMINENT
Rachel Brand, Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein – FIRED/FORCED [Batter’s Box]
Michael Steinbach
John Glacalone
Randy Coleman
Trisha Anderson https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/fashion/weddings/trisha-anderson-charles-newman-weddings.html
Kevin Clinesmith
Tashina Gauhar
Sally Moyer
How do you ensure those prosecuted [non military] would receive an impartial judgement based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Federal Judge rulings [obstruction][POTUS’ granted CONSTITUTIONAL authority].
How do you ensure ‘appeals’ to the U.S. Supreme Court are evaluated impartially > based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Justice K (5 to 4).
Military Law v Criminal Law
“Enemy Combatant”
How do you navigate around installed BLOCKADE? [MUELLER] designed to take-in evidence needed to ‘expose’ DS [DOJ block re: Mueller ‘evidence’ ongoing investigation]. [MUELLER] designed to limit POTUS’ ability to maneuver. [MUELLER] designed to ‘stall-for-time’ until MIDTERM ELECTIONS to TERMINATE all HOUSE / SENATE ongoing investigations. [MUELLER] designed to ‘safeguard’ D_PARTY_BASE false narrative re: RUSSIA COLLUSION [POTUS CHEATED – EVIL – SKY FALLING] in effort to DIVIDE and MOBILIZE for future protests, riots, threats, violence, FF’s, etc. [MUELLER] designed to provide FAKE NEWS w/ ammunition to sway public opinion, obstruct foreign + domestic agenda, fuel impeachment/removal, fuel anti-POTUS [DIVISION][prevent UNITY], etc.. [MUELLER] designed to demonstrate to foreign players that OLD GUARD still pulls strings. [MUELLER] designed to mobilize D_PARTY for MIDTERM VOTE WIN. [MUELLER] designed to push D_PARTY backers to DONATE [GOFUNDME – D_PARTY]. [MUELLER] designed as PUBLIC OUTCRY EXCUSE should criminal charges be brought against them [‘we are being ‘politically’ attacked because MUELLER…].
How do you REMOVE installed BLOCKADE?
DECLAS—DECLAS—DECLAS
How do you navigate around installed corrupt [FBI][DOJ]?
USE A STEALTH BOMBER
Who must authorize firing of FBI/DOJ officials?
Why did McCabe try to take SESSIONS out? https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/fired-fbi-official-authorized-perjury-investigation-against-sessions-1191727171576?v=raila&
What was the SESSIONS SENATE CONF VOTE?
52-47
No. 175
Logical thinking v clickbait.
Q
LOGICAL THINKING.
That is what this is all about for me. That includes a lot of work with unknowns and uncertainty. Don’t just TRUST Q. Apply some LOGIC.
I’m pretty good at that. I’m not saying others aren’t, but this is a GROUP EFFORT. Nobody is going to have all the pieces.
We are entering a very weird time where we will get MORE of some specific reliable but unproven (and thus uncertain) advance information through “authorized anti-media” sources like Q, than we will through our own efforts. We will have to juggle some very fuzzy objects to do it, too. If we refuse to accept certain items from Q, that we can’t immediately prove, we won’t be able to make some extremely important leaps.
This is a strange and uncomfortable situation, but once we accept it as a possibility, or even a necessity, we can do a lot WITH IT – all the while keeping our DOUBTS about the reliability of “Q”. REMEMBER: Q cannot read Trump’s mind, and it can make mistakes, or even more specifically may not be fully informed by POTUS – with REASON.
Are you with me? I’m not TRUSTING Q. I’m TESTING Q. And I’m using a combination of my own research, GOOD TESTING DOUBTS from the Treehouse, and STATEMENTS by Q to figure out where I want to be on Christopher Wray and Jeff Sessions. LOGICAL THINKING.
Let’s look at the first part:
Statement release 10.9.18 [p_AUTHORITY1]
General Statement:
We understand that there is extreme fatigue and frustration re: the wheels of justice [slow].
Exclude emotion and personal desire, instead use logic and critical thinking based on situational awareness [undo a lifetime of evil & corruption [infestation] in the span of less than 2 years w/ a corrupt DOJ & FBI in place?]. [Process & Planning – Law and Order] [Military OP]
I think we’re supposed to take the “[p_AUTHORITY1]” token (clearly a real OR ad-hoc made-up or derived symbol meaning “highest Presidential authority”) as the idea that the VSGPOTUS approved this preface to a bunch of stuff which is largely known and repeated, but which, IMO, NEEDS to be repeated. What’s the actual provenance of this stuff? Who knows. Uncertain. Even if it’s a story, it’s a sensible one. The timing is right, and sniffs of reality if this actually IS a legit psy-op.
Now I’m going to inject some opinion here. The stated need for this POST is here, in the second sentence:
We understand that there is extreme fatigue and frustration re: the wheels of justice [slow].
This is a KNOWN vulnerability of the Q *psy-op*, because it is a core REASON for the Q psy-op itself. The Q psy-op was designed (in my opinion) in part to combat the misleading and division of the Trump base by the Democrats and their foreign allies. Why is this going on? Because IMPATIENCE has ruled the roost as JUSTICE grinds slowly. That impatience has allowed the Democrats to DISTRACT THE MAGA BASE very intentionally. IMPATIENCE allows for DIVISION. Note that Q understands the role of division very well, and has been CONSISTENT on this point. Self-consistency is a bona fide. Remember that.
One of the reasons the Q psy-op was CREATED (IMO) was to keep those IMPATIENT laser-pointer-susceptible anons from being misled – to keep them following TRUMP and not chaff and countermeasures – by providing a MAGA laser pointer with deniable but convincing VSGPOTUS signature, that would BEAT OUT the enemy laser pointers.
I don’t just think that was brilliant – I think it was NEEDED.
One of the first and earliest deployments against impatience was the early generation of “Twitter gurus”, who theorized very close to what Q is saying now. Note that the Twitter gurus were SAVAGED by the New York Times in the VERY SAME attack article that was going after Q. There is a reason for that. The same groups of people attacking Q are against ANYTHING MAGA.
The Twitter gurus are convincing, but have also asserted some things that are almost unbelievable – possibly by design. I still don’t accept everything they say as gospel, or even close to reality. But I do believe they are 100% MAGA, and are telling some BIG TRUTHS that will prove correct in the long run.
NOW – what is being said next by Q?
Exclude emotion and personal desire, instead use logic and critical thinking based on situational awareness [undo a lifetime of evil & corruption [infestation] in the span of less than 2 years w/ a corrupt DOJ & FBI in place?]. [Process & Planning – Law and Order] [Military OP]
Look – let’s be reasonable here. COLD LOGIC. The direction of this explanation just keeps working toward what Q has been saying all along. Military OP. Put all the pieces together and the entire history of the Trump candidacy and administration makes TOTAL SENSE if we proceed from the following scenario:
The military and particularly the NSA watched and waited, as they saw things going bad – as the CLOWN Deep State began to abuse IC resources more and more – as it became clear that the control panels of government were being ABUSED for political ends. The Snowden LEAK was one of the last straws. A TRIPWIRE was constructed. I tend to think the basic tripwire may have even been constructed long ago – perhaps as long ago as GENERAL Washington. But the modern interpretation of the tripwire is simple in this theory. If NSA data was used to go after candidates in a Presidential election, the military would STOP IT and begin countering – within limits – whatever forces were behind the abuse. I like to believe that General Washington left some kind of orders that the military would automatically self-correct if it was ever abused BY a President to control a Presidential election. So you know what that means. It is also likely that the black hat conspirators were AWARE of the tripwire, or at least “a” tripwire in theory, and ACTED against Adm. Rogers based on the knowledge that they had likely crossed it.
Now comes a serious question:
How can you make arrests [non military] prior to first fully cleaning out corrupt elements [at the top] of those departments [FBI][DOJ] that oversee ‘investigation & prosecution’ in the United States [they [themselves] are the very ones engaged in the illegal treasonous acts]?
This is not just a self-consistent admission that the military doesn’t want to do this task – it is a POINTER of how to approach this logically.
Clean out the top in a civilian way (takes time, but is largely, not completely done).
Clean out below after that (very problematic – WE ARE HERE)
After that, comes a long litany of FACTS supporting this, in terms of PROMISES KEPT and PROMISES TO BE KEPT, vis-à-vis “draining the swamp”.
James Comey, Director – FIRED
Andrew McCabe, Deputy Director – FIRED
Jim Rybicki, Chief of Staff and Senior Counselor – FIRED
James Baker, General Counsel – FIRED
Bill Priestap, Director of Counterintelligence (Strzok’s boss) – Cooperating witness [power removed]
Peter Strzok, Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence – FIRED
Lisa Page, Office of General Counsel – FIRED/FORCED
Mike Kortan, Assistant Director for Public Affairs – FIRED
Josh Campbell, Special Assistant to Comey – FIRED
David Laufman, Chief of the Justice Department’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section [NAT SEC – HRC email invest] – FIRED/FORCE
John Carlin, Assistant Attorney General – Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Sally Yates, Deputy Attorney General & Acting Attorney General – FIRED
Mary McCord, Acting Assistant Attorney General – Acting Head of DOJ’s National Security Division – FIRED/FORCED
Bruce Ohr, Associate Deputy Attorney General – Demoted 2x – cooperating witness [power removed] – TERMINATION IMMINENT
Rachel Brand, Associate Attorney General – No. 3 official behind Deputy AG Rosenstein – FIRED/FORCED [Batter’s Box]
Michael Steinbach
John Glacalone
Randy Coleman
Trisha Anderson https://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/09/fashion/weddings/trisha-anderson-charles-newman-weddings.html
Kevin Clinesmith
Tashina Gauhar
Sally Moyer
This is an argument for MORE TIME based on the sizes of two groups: (1) the bad actors we KNOW about who HAVE been scrutinized, at what we are likely to admit is a previously acceptable rate, and (2) those people ( [BATTER’S BOX] ) have not yet been publicly scrutinized, inviting us to EXTEND the acceptable period of scrutiny.
Is this REASONABLE? That’s a good question. YOUR CALL. I entertain the idea that, with reasonable guarantees of completion, it IS reasonable.
Next, look at some questions:
How do you ensure those prosecuted [non military] would receive an impartial judgement based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Federal Judge rulings [obstruction][POTUS’ granted CONSTITUTIONAL authority].
How do you ensure ‘appeals’ to the U.S. Supreme Court are evaluated impartially > based on the RULE OF LAW?
Think Justice K (5 to 4).
Military Law v Criminal Law
“Enemy Combatant”
How do you navigate around installed BLOCKADE?
These are all reasonable arguments for (1) do this OUTSIDE the military as much as possible (BRAVO!), and (2) we might REASONABLY need to allow more time.
In particular, look at the BLOCKADE called [MUELLER]….
[MUELLER] designed to take-in evidence needed to ‘expose’ DS [DOJ block re: Mueller ‘evidence’ ongoing investigation]. [MUELLER] designed to limit POTUS’ ability to maneuver. [MUELLER] designed to ‘stall-for-time’ until MIDTERM ELECTIONS to TERMINATE all HOUSE / SENATE ongoing investigations. [MUELLER] designed to ‘safeguard’ D_PARTY_BASE false narrative re: RUSSIA COLLUSION [POTUS CHEATED – EVIL – SKY FALLING] in effort to DIVIDE and MOBILIZE for future protests, riots, threats, violence, FF’s, etc. [MUELLER] designed to provide FAKE NEWS w/ ammunition to sway public opinion, obstruct foreign + domestic agenda, fuel impeachment/removal, fuel anti-POTUS [DIVISION][prevent UNITY], etc.. [MUELLER] designed to demonstrate to foreign players that OLD GUARD still pulls strings. [MUELLER] designed to mobilize D_PARTY for MIDTERM VOTE WIN. [MUELLER] designed to push D_PARTY backers to DONATE [GOFUNDME – D_PARTY]. [MUELLER] designed as PUBLIC OUTCRY EXCUSE should criminal charges be brought against them [‘we are being ‘politically’ attacked because MUELLER…].
Now – in my opinion, this is all a great and obvious argument for:
Sessions is OK, though impeded, and is a HUGE target of the black hats
More time is OK
There is also something else. Notice ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THE FBI who WERE fired. I’m not even talking about the ones on deck – I’m talking about the ACTUALLY fired and removed people.
This is a whole lot of DRAIN THE SWAMP, in my opinion. This means that Q is also arguing….
3. Wray is OK
It’s not stated explicitly – most of the effort is defending SESSIONS. But by implication, Q is saying Wray is OK, in my opinion.
But how does this jibe with all the other arguments we’re hearing – many seemingly very valid – that Sessions and Wray have NOT cleaned out DOJ and FBI?
Can it be true that they ARE cleaning out the BAD TOP, but that they ARE NOT cleaning out the BAD RANK AND FILE?
Absolutely. And we need to look at this more closely to see why it is happening.
The easiest way to see what is happening is to look at WRAY, not SESSIONS. For Sessions to be valid requires a certain amount of “stealth” on his part – that is a very uncertain situation. We don’t have that problem with Wray.
To begin with, I found it very helpful to look at Chris Wray’s background. If he’s “Deep State”, that’s our problem right there.
My assessment of Wray is as follows. Some of it is highly speculative. The references are included in various places. Many of the ideas listed appear in multiple references, or are derived from my thinking on information in multiple references. Don’t take reference location as definitive, or the references as the sole origins of the ideas.
The purpose of this is to prove that Christopher Wray is or is not “Deep State”. I will skip to the end. He is NOT Deep State. In my opinion.
This is all a bit of a hodge-podge, but if you don’t like it, I think you can gain a similar understanding by simply clicking on and reading some of these references.
Wray was an excellent recommendation (possibly by Chris Christie, among others – Christie won’t confirm)
Wray and his wife seem to embrace a lifestyle antithetical to black-hattery.
Wray made sure that an innocent Chris Christie was not thrown under the bus by his overly loyal underlings (speaks to an amazing skill set)
Wray made sure that a SKETCHY DOJ did not set up and take out Christie, and he (Wray) was not fooled by them (VERY IMPORTANT)
Wray was not in the loop on Mueller and Comey’s black hattery, but looked up to their PUBLIC PERSONAS strongly.
Wray was willing to stand up to Bush and the NSA, along with Comey, Mueller and Ashcroft, in the infamous “Ashcroft incident”, based on what Wray KNEW at the time.
In the process, Wray ADMITTED he didn’t understand what was going on.
THIS point actually becomes a bona fide, because I don’t think Wray (or any of us, for that matter) understood WHY Mueller and Comey REALLY opposed NSA domestic surveillance UNDER BUSH.
Notice also that this made Wray the perfect white hat to slip past the black hats as FBI Director.
Wray’s somewhat mysterious exit from DOJ in 2005 for no stated or obvious reason, when his career was going very strongly, is VERY encouraging to me.
I think we need more research on this.
I cannot find ANYTHING about it, but a cushy landing job is implied
Expect CHAFF stories on this to paint him as a black hat or something else. My guess is that it was really a combination of:
being too much of a white hat for Comey and Mueller, so they limited his advancement and/or engineered pressure on him to leave, possibly including trickery involving the Abu Gharaib hot potato
his old employer tempted him back with college-plus-vacation-home-levels of cash
All of this, I found very troubling.
What? Why? Why on earth would I find an excellent background troubling? Because Wray is too good. I cannot explain the situation at FBI based solely on Wray. The problems at FBI would require Wray to be incompetent in ways he is not.
Sessions is different. He has a MUELLER around his neck. There is a REASON Sessions is in trouble, and the “BAD RANK AND FILE” at DOJ are running loose, undermining him everywhere. Mueller has Sessions pinned down.
Wray does not have that problem. And consistent with a competent leader, Wray’s background is VERY consistent with that long list of FIRED top people at the FBI. He’s the perfect guy to have done exactly what he did. If we also accept Q’s proposition that these things take time, then I think Wray has to be doing a good job.
BUT – how do I reconcile that idea with Wray not providing required documents to Congress in a timely and complete fashion?
Even weirder, how do I reconcile THAT incompetence or noncompliance with EXCELLENT FBI work in the investigation of Judge Kavanaugh?
Stated differently, the FBI has been SWAMPY toward all House investigations, but was NON-SWAMPY for the Kavanaugh Senate investigation.
Logic tells me that the simplest explanation is that FBI is PARTIALLY CLEAN. Stated differently, only a SMALL part of the FBI has been cleansed. That small part is:
the top chain of command that was REPLACED
the special DOJ/FBI group that has been going after leaks, including the Wolfe leak in the SSCI
the group supporting the OIG (but definitely NOT completely cleansed, based on Sharyl Attkisson’s laptop)
These are the places we have seen ACTION against the swamp in any significant way.
This is in agreement with the idea that THE SWAMP is still deep in FBI. Only PARTS of the FBI swamp have been drained.
THAT is OK. I can live with that, if we CONTINUE THE DRAINAGE.
So WHY all the impatience now? We are actually SEEING PROGRESS with the Kavanaugh confirmation and serious FBI push-back on FAKE WITNESSES, and yet people are calling for Wray to be replaced. That could actually be BAD, unless we KNOW of a better replacement.
Does anybody believe that the NEXT FBI Director would be as tough on China as WRAY has been? I seriously doubt it.
That is what went through my mind the next morning, watching a news report about yet another FBI BUST against CHINESE SPIES. And then it hit me.
IT’S CHINA.
Wray has been talking about China more than any other FBI Director in memory. And not just talking – Wray has been DOING. He is actually ARRESTING Chinese assets.
Bear in mind, I had recently seen Wheatietoo’s post, where SHE put it all together on China on a bunch of other things. All I’m doing is throwing ONE MORE LOG on that fire.
Just like Trump and his “team of killers” on trade – just like Trump’s defense people on navigation in the Pacific – just like Trump himself on TARIFF after TARIFF after TARIFF – not to mention calling out CHEATING on North Korea sanctions – not to mention the “Save Our Seas Act” – not to mention upending bogus climate change – not to mention booting out Confucius Institutes – and see Wheatie’s post for more…..
WRAY is TAKING CHINA to the WOODSHED.
Yes. Wray is ON MESSAGE with Trump on China. AND he is the guy who has ACTUALLY been going after China.
Why in the heck would China put up with that?
Answer: THEY WOULDN’T.
NOBODY can start a whisper campaign against their enemies like CHINA.
NOBODY.
I immediately went to the Treehouse to spell this out: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/10/10/interesting-and-frustrating-senator-ron-johnson-questions-fbi-director-christopher-wray/comment-page-1/#comment-6142153
I just figured out last night that CHINA is targeting Wray. Oh, these ChiComs are so sneaky. They will pull crap when you’re looking right at them.
I did a deep dive on Wray last night because of this post. Things didn’t make sense.
Everything is telling me that Wray’s basic nature is MAGA, straight-shooter, and that he is the antithesis of what the other side wants. In particular, he is the first guy in a long time to actually GET the China problem. BOOM. That is when I realized what is happening.
SO – in my humble and slightly opposing opinion – the whole “turn against Sessions and Wray” movement is striking me as a highly skilled ChiCom product. The ChiComs are amazingly good at hiding the China hand. They push American faces as actors and actors behind actors to get their goals, and most people never see it, but I smell the invisible Chinese hand like very few can, and it is all over this push against Wray.
So why is Wray being ineffective to Congress? It’s a VALID QUESTION. In some ways this is also CLASSIC CHINA – they always try to move a situation very quickly to a state where their enemies BLAME THE VICTIM. Very few people are as SNEAKY and SKILLED as the ChiComs in getting their enemies to shoot each other.
China’s method of undermining institutions is A THOUSAND CUTS FROM BELOW, AND AN KNIFE TO THE THROAT AT THE TOP. So every Holderite, McCabian and Canklebot in FBI is foot-dragging as hard as they can, many not even realizing who “The Resistance” really serves. And all that is being used against Wray from below, IMO.
I’m sorry, but I will not blame Wray for Chinese black-hattery. We MAY need to put an even tougher fighter in his place (thinking Wolf Moon wearing an AR-15 to pressers), but until somebody SHOWS ME THE GOODS, I say Wray is our best fighter already. The only two people I know who are tougher on China are Peter Navarro and ME, and there is no way Peter is qualified, and no way I would be allowed into my own Senate hearings with an AR-15 on my back (among other reasons 😉 ).
I think we need to see what Wray is like AFTER THE MIDTERMS IF WE KEEP THE HOUSE. Will he be more cooperative with Congress? I think so – for MANY reasons.
If I’m correct in my thinking, then Wray will be MORE FORTHCOMING when President Trump has greater operational freedom. I think we are seeing this to some extent already, but not completely, for valid reasons.
I can expand on that thinking a bit more. CHINA knows that it is going to have to use every asymmetric advantage it can to come after Trump. I am sure they are pressuring, cajoling, and calling in the chips EVERYWHERE to get AMERICAN FACES to get Trump to back down. One of those methods is to get their Democrats back into power by ANY method they can. Removing Sessions and/or Wray has to be at the top of that list. The ChiComs UNDERMINE THE ORGANIZATIONS to do it, too. Possibly through SURROGATES. Exactly what we are seeing. [DSA looks a bit flush lately. Just sayin’.]
It ain’t gonna happen. If the Chinese Communists think they can return the situation to “Obama Normal”, they are SADLY mistaken.
SO – bottom line – this is WAR. And war changes everything. Sometimes, war is a PAIN in the butt, and right now, that’s the way it is.
WAR may mean putting up with ineffective people for a while. WAR may also mean FIRING THEM completely out of the blue. War may even mean FIRING ON YOUR OWN PEOPLE.
I am TRUSTING TRUMP. I see Sessions and Wray as GOOD SOLDIERS in the FIGHT against Chinese communism, Soviet leftoverism, and nasty dupey globalism. Our VSGPOTUS may indeed have to BOMB OUR OWN POSITIONS at some point to free up the AG position and put a TOUGH GUY BASTARD into FBI. That’s WAR. I don’t like it, but if either man gets overrun in his position, then we may have to nuke them.
TOUGH. MAGAPOTUSAURUS is on the loose!
However, I don’t think we’re there yet. So I am going to continue to support Jeff Sessions and Chris Wray up to the very moment (should it ever arrive) that Trump sees their replacement as necessary.
PATIENCE.
LOGICAL THINKING.
COLD ANGER.
This is #WAR. In the meanwhile, WE have a HOUSE to deliver.
W Sometimes you’ve gotta trust that the people up top know what they’re doing. Scene from MIDWAY – why is this relevant? https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074899/characters/nm0000336?ref_=tt_cl_t3
It’s great to know that we’re already bothering the other side. Tonight – the first attack on this site, via the WordPress sidebar widgets. These are people who know who I am, too – very interesting. My guess is KGB-CIA, although Brits and ChiComs are likely, too.
Sadly, I may have to disable the sidebar, but we’ll see. WordPress will need to be notified that they are vulnerable to some new hack, possibly via those sidebar widgets.
This is not the first time WordPress has been hacked. https://thehackernews.com/2017/06/wordpress-hacking-sql-injection.html
So far, what I have seen is only modification of the “followed blogs” list. Somehow they are able to manipulate that list. It’s very likely they can do more, but we’ll see.
Remember – SCREENSHOTS are your friend in dealing with these perps. Sadly, I MISSED the very first one, so you’ll have to do with a description of that first image.
Here is what my sidebar blog and link lists should look like now. This is close to what they looked like at the beginning of this story, after I added them.
Intitially, the “Blogroll” list looked a lot bigger – it was filled with what looked like “suggested” WordPress internal blogs from WordPress itself, explaining different options, services, etc. I pared that down to what you see above.
The “Blogs I Follow” list looked just like above, but it was partially unfamiliar – I had forgotten about “BrotherWatch” and “The Daily Post”, which I believe I followed while tending my other blog, wolfmoon1776.wordpress.com. but otherwise, THAT seemed normal.
A bit later, while working on the site, I noticed that the “Follow” list was now MUCH longer, and filled with MANY unfamiliar blogs. I thought that maybe these were SUGGESTED blogs – or perhaps blogs I had at one time visited. I thought that I MIGHT have visited one or two, but on looking at them more closely, they didn’t seem familiar at all. And I was definitely NOT following them.
Then it struck me. These blogs may have been used to support a PLAUSIBLE DOXXING PATH. They were not influence – these people are WELL beyond attempting influence at this point. I think they want things to LOOK like influence while trying to find paths to discredit.
The other side knows exactly who I am. They have worked very skillfully to try to degrade my effectiveness in various ways, both online and in real life. At some point I’ll get into the details, but for now, let’s just stick to the hack.
Once I realized that I didn’t follow these blogs, and that they were likely a hack of some kind, I added a Sidebar Text Widget to explain that people would be seeing blogs I didn’t actually follow. I was going to suggest it was a HACK. But THEN, thinking best not to overreact, I cut back the explanation to just the following – saying that I didn’t follow all these blogs.
After I posted THAT, this is what my sidebar looked like:
Yes. It was back to normal. I had definitely been HACKED at some level. It was possible that the hack was limited in some fashion. SO – I opened up the Text Widget and changed it to THIS:
Well, THAT provoked THIS reaction from the hackers:
I made sure I took pictures, and then refreshed the browser. Back to normal:
And guess what? Just now, they’ve changed it BACK to the insult, while I’m in the process of editing this post.
THAT is a clue to the hack. They do this stuff while I’m either working on the site, or adding a post. Intercepted token, perhaps? Oh, CIA! You’re so CHINA!
So – the bottom line is that we’re over the target. But I’ll probably remove the widget.
Say goodbye to our friends! Stefan Halper, the architect of Watergate:
Cankles – the architect of the attacks on Brett Kavanaugh:
And CHINA, the architect of EVIL:
I keep telling these people to just leave me alone. And EVERY TIME they fail to take my advice. But – that’s OK. It’s like Q says.
These people are….. yeah.
Win a penny. Lose a buck. PS – I think I just realized something even MORE damaging to the other side. THIS is not just about me. It’s a GENERAL HACK that they use to INFLUENCE people by making them believe that people who influence them follow other people who they don’t really follow. Isn’t that an amazing social engineering hack? They are using HACKED FOLLOW LISTS to deceive us about who follows who – who LOOKS to who. Who RESPECTS who. And you KNOW – you just KNOW – that the Facebook empire is using this technique to modify Americans OUT THE WAZOO.
I need to ask a question:
HOW MUCH HAVE THEY BEEN MODIFYING THE TREEHOUSE? And another: How do I know I’m seeing the same Treehouse everybody else is seeing? Answer: I don’t. It will be interesting to see if WordPress fixes their follow lists. Or not.
Interesting.
W “And then he says ‘Yeah, but it’s a COPPER penny!'”
One of the greatest things I ever learned from Sundance over at The Last Refuge is this:
the timelines always get them
I will keep this simple, so the “aha” is easy to see.
This is my prior article on the conspiracy against Brett Kavanaugh:
Here is a link to said prior post on the conspiracy against Brett Kavanaugh. You can come back to it – it’s not needed to understand the following, although it helps fill in details.
Now, here is an article about the obscure (in my opinion) Mark Judge book that uses a very interestingly “barely camouflaged” version of Brett Kavanaugh’s name as somebody likely to be assumed to be Dr. Ford’s assailant. The name was changed to “Bart O’Cavanaugh”, if I remember the spelling correctly. C or K.
Note that this is not normally an expensive book – but it’s hard to get now, and hence the inflated price. I will confess making a joke that this “rare book” was “worth something for a reason”. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/19/brett-kavanaugh-mark-judge-georgetown-prep-book/1357739002/
The book is listed here as being published in 2005.
2005, you say? Yes! 2005!
Question! Where does that fit on the Brett Kavanaugh career TIMELINE?
Glad you asked!
Here is a convenient Wall Street Journal article about – well – just look! https://www.wsj.com/articles/timeline-brett-kavanaughs-rise-to-supreme-court-nominee-1531255425
Allow me to call attention to this part of it:
At this point, if you haven’t, you can go back to that link above to my prior post.
And now, to spell it all out, here is a comment I did on this on The Treehouse.
This was in response to Cari Kelemen (ParteaGirl) saying that she thought this claim was political from the very beginning.
The fact that Christine Ford made her claims- NOT to a law enforcement official- but to a POLITICIAN first tells me this was politically motivated from the get-go.
Absolutely. And I think the get-go goes WAY BACK.
Look at that Mark Judge book that conflates Kavanaugh’s name with (IMO) somebody else’s crime: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/09/19/brett-kavanaugh-mark-judge-georgetown-prep-book/1357739002/
The year is 2005. This book seems like a loser – the only thing it really seems good for is what it’s doing now. And remember – Hillary and her friends run the publishing industry. That part of the media is VERY Democrat. They use book deals as payoffs ALL THE TIME.
Look at the TIMELINE of Kavanaugh’s career here. Notice what’s going on around 2005? https://www.wsj.com/articles/timeline-brett-kavanaughs-rise-to-supreme-court-nominee-1531255425
I think that the SEEDS of DISCREDITING HIM were sown in 2005.
THAT explains the NATURE of the LAWYERED UP statements of Judge and others.
The way CIA does a lot of this stuff is by suggestion. So I’m not saying that Judge KNEW at the time what was going on. But he may realize it now, and THAT is useful, just like the REAL PERP is unlikely to counter her story in any meaningful way that removes all doubt.
“Useful guilt keeps people quiet and lets things unfold according to a predictable script.”
An important lawfare principle.
I think this case is NASTY and may be a true conspiracy against Brett Kavanaugh.
I have been reminded by fellow Treepers that Dr. Ford is at legal risk if she either testifies OR if the letter is entered as evidence. Aren’t these things making sense now? Doesn’t CHI-FI / SPY-FI and her rather unorthodox way of “whoops” accidentally making this known, which was “kinds sorta not legally binding”, make sense now?
Indeed, isn’t everything making sense now?
W “Bart O’Cavanaugh? This must be that ‘Fake News’ from the future they told me about.”
I have decided to create a special BRANCH where those who are both Treepers (posters at The Conservative Treehouse, a.k.a. The Last Refuge, a.k.a. CTH, a.k.a. TCTH, a.k.a. https://theconservativetreehouse.com) and followers of the QAnon movement (Q-tards – whatever they want to call us) can discuss QAnon topics in peace and harmony.
I will work out the rules as we go, though I will err toward Free Speech within the limits of UNIMPEDED RESEARCH (very important) and productive discussion. Growth will be slow. Please be patient. I have never done anything like this before.
Part of my motivation is to keep QAnon fans in the orbit of CTH, and to help keep QAnon posting OFF of CTH. There is a strategic reason for this. Sometimes I will explain why I do things. Other times I will not. People are welcome to try to guess why I say things – this is ALWAYS a good exercise in understanding – something Q is trying to teach us. Why would I want to draw QAnon posting away from CTH?
I have no connection to Q other than a desire to understand Q. As Q says, there is only Q, although Q+ appears sometimes. When I call myself W, it is homage to Q – nothing more.
-Wolf
PS – can you guess what WQTH stands for? Yes! Easy! I wanted SHORT, SWEET, and most of all EASY TO REMEMBER.
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