For the time being, given our national emergency, we are switching to DAILY COVID-19/China Virus threads instead of weekly threads. Your comments and updates are most welcome. PLEASE continue to post your valuable information, hard source links, and local observations within these Daily Threads. Additionally, we will try to include links to government and official pressers, so those who no longer have cable can remain informed.
We’ll get through this crisis, together. As a group, there is probably no one better prepared than we are.
For our newcomers: The Q Tree community has been diligent in covering the threat of Coronavirus, COVID19, Wuhan FLU. We started accumulating information about this virus in mid-late January, in what became almost weekly threads. We’ve been weeks, if not months, ahead of MSM outlets to vet rumors and other medical papers, etc.
Primary Update Links:
- Links to the USA CoronaVirus Task Force: http://coronavirus.gov/
- Johns Hopkins CSSE Dashboard to update number of “official” cases within China and worldwide: https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
- Another summary of data, updates and sources: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
- Hard Link to the World Health Organization: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019
- Hard Link to the Center for Disease Control: CDC Updates: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/index.html
In our past weekly threads, we assembled information on the following:
- Primary update links. The dashboard from Johns Hopkins which counts “official” cases all over the world, the CDC, and WHO, and includes the links for our past threads.
- Hard Data Medical Information- Explanation about testing, reliance on China for drugs, analysis of NE Journal of Medicine results and other published papers.
- Vaccine and theraputics (new/old drugs to alleviate symptoms) news and updates
- Trump Administration response (the timeline and links to various agencies)
- China Responses, timelines, research, attempt to cover actions, or secrecy in results discovered.
- An aggregate of info/responses from other countries, listed by country.
- Economic impact from around the world. A change in economic activity will indicate a “return to normal”.
- Speculation/debunking on how the virus started
- Media Bias, political response, and debunking section, like the article from AP News, overt bias from Politico, inflammatory headlines, etc.
- Other medical info to boost immune system, herbal remedies, ways to keep your house clean and NOT spread the virus to others. Excellent information to incorporate into daily lifestyle.
- Hard links for OTHER valuable sources/blogs and a brief sentence or two about what they provide
- Other news items
Our weekly updates. timelines, collection of valuable information, can be found here:
- January 25th, Our first thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/25/20200125-coronavirus/
- January 27th, Our second thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/01/27/20200127-coronavirus-update-thread/
- February 1st-9th, Our third thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/01/20200201-coronavirus-update-thread-3/
- February 10th – 18th, Our Fourth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/10/20200210th-19th-coronavirus-thread/
- February 19-29th: Our Fifth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/02/18/20200218th-29th-coronavirus-update-thread/
- March 1-10th, Our Sixth Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/2020-march1st-7th-coronavirus-covid19-xivirus-wuflu-6th-update-thread/
- March 9-16th, Our Seventh Thread: https://wqth.wordpress.com/2020/03/09/2020-march-9th-16th-coronavirus-covid19-xivirus-wuflu-7th-weekly-update-thread/
Please try to keep your sense of humor during this National Emergency, and remember, patience is a virtue.
Love to all!
For the Dems, it’s “The Enemy of My Enemy…….”
DNC TREACHERY AGAINST AMERICA!!!
Nevada’s Democrat Governor Issues Emergency Order Barring Use of Anti-Malaria Drugs For Coronavirus Patients
March 24, 2020, 9:05 pm by Cristina Laila 642 Comments
He’s working on being a one term governor…
What a HEARTLESS political SCUMBAG is all I have to say.
“What a HEARTLESS political SCUMBAG is all I have to say.”
The guaranteed loss of life — or even the loss of everybody’s life — is not personal with the Cabal.
It’s just business…
Which just happens to be reason #7,968 why we should make eliminating the Cabal our business. 😁
They’re not stupid – they’re evil.
He’s working on being run out of town on a rail.
And, in Nevada, the out-of-town areas are generally pretty hostile.
That’s going all-in on an unrelated 2/3 in your hand, when the flop is showing jacks and queens.
he might not make a full term, recall his ass.
Stupid and ill-informed
Yup. And TOO BAD, but one less Democrat governor, coming right up. 2023. Perfect for 2024.
It’s time to make pols PAY for listening to CHICOM FAKE NEWS. Perfect opportunity. This guy can be DESTROYED. Even if Pelosi’s spies wise him up fast here, he looks like a TOAD for going against it just “because Trump”. The TRUMP RALLY for his next opponent should be filled with BOOS when Governor Fishtank is mentioned.
“Stupid and ill-informed”
Or premeditated, completely informed, with malice aforethought.
“It is dangerous to attribute to stupidity that which could be the result of malice or guile.” – Aubergine’s Razor
Yep. Perfect usage.
Premeditated murder if it is proven that the malaria med is positive treading patience.
Can’t wait til it turns out to be the cure!!
Yup. TAKE PICTURES of those SINS AGAINST THE PEOPLE, because GOVERNOR FISHTANK is gonna TANK next time. 😎
There are people who are totally convinced the DNC stole that election from the REP candidate.
Would not surprise me AT ALL.
Yep we want to know what happened in LV b/c it didn’t stay in LV
My leftist niece is very much all about medicine (she has nothing but contempt for anti-vaccine people); this might be what can get her to say “hey, that’s actually fucking stupid and deadly.”
Nevada is a creepy state – they’ve got Vegas and Reno – like Mardi Gras bacchanal all year long – with gambling and prostitution, p0rn, human trafficking – mafia magnets.
Well, they ARE the party of abortion, LATE TERM abortion, and death panels, just sayin.
I don’t expect the Nevada governor to hold the line on this; I think the fallout will be too great. But the Dems are getting bolder in their resistance and in pushing their agenda. They used to try to hide their true intentions, but no more. They don’t seem to care how their actions look, and they have learned nothing over the last five years.
These curiously brazen actions against the interests of the people, only to relent later, seem to be part of the Democrats’ psychological reinforcement of the idea that they are “in charge” and “you people are not”.
Even if they relent, it is because “that is their job and their right”. It’s very MONARCHIC. It’s conditioning. And we don’t CONDITION BACK like we should.
His, and other actions DOWNPLAYING and STOPPING chloroquine, a drug that has been in WORLD WIDE constant use since the FORTY’S, should tell you all you need to know, it IS the cure, they just want their weapon.
Besides the potential loss of life, pain, suffering and stress, there is NO shortage of the damn drugs.
Pure EVIL politics. Can’t imagine it is logically anything else.
Going back into my hole for awhile. This one really has me pissed off.
Yeah, I hear you. Hard not to wish bad things on somebody who is KILLING PEOPLE (literally) simply for politics.
I woke up with more shortness of breath than I went to bed with – and I’m lucky to be alive. People do NOT WANT THIS STUFF.
I’ll be blunt – if a loved one started having shortness of breath in NV, I would hold up a pharmacy for hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin – and PAY FOR IT. Get the drug – hold off the cops until it works – and then surrender to the cops. That’s my kind of civil disobedience under the circumstances.
Governor MURDER can go to hell.
Keeping you in our prayers Wolf as well as everyone here.
I have been having a hard time shaking what ever I have and Kimi has been riding my ass about smoking.
This to shall pass 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Good luck and God Bless! Think about listening to her – a TEMPORARY STOP to smoking might be just what you need to kick the bug!
I smoke 2 packs a day, the thought of quitting is sounding better just not today.
I have been pounding down Canada Dry cranberry ginger ale all day and am feeling a little better.
Kimi has been feeding me a BRAT diet
Banana, rice, applesauce and toast it helps…
God bless you Wolf.
You too! <3
And just a temporary reduction will help, too! Lots of great options. Pack a day will ease your lungs. Half a pack, even better.
I dialed it down, so when I did cold turkey, it STUCK!!!
And now the CCP gone and undid all that work I did, so now I get to go undo all their work. 😉 🐺
I quit for 7 months a few years back it felt pretty good after smoking for over 40 years.
All this breathing stuff going on am gonna slow down to half a pack a day and quit.
I have a couple of old prescriptions for chantix I never used, that should help if their still good.
Yup, it might help. If they make you feel bad just try without, because I did it without nicotine or anything else. In 2-3 weeks it’s over – your body will reset. You know – you quit before. Easier each time. Trust that!
This is almost unbelievable! Or any elected official with that much power to do this is mind-boggling. At the very least he must run it by his state court system, I would think.
Well, hopefully there’s a silver lining to all these liberal actions….awakening!
On that note…great article on Lucianne about how crisis brings out the ugly side of people…specific examples, including LA City Council, James Clyburn, etc.
Trump Unmasking Effect is UNMASKING LIKE CRAZY!!!
He, like ALL leftists in politics, have FORGOTTEN that their “power” comes DIRECTLY from we the people. We can give it, and we CAN take it AWAY. Some of these little Napoleons are on a lustful power trip the likes of which will not be seen again, and they are RELISHING in it, and doing what leftists ALWAYS do…overreach. There WILL be a price, and not just a political one for them taking advantage of this crisis. WATCH. Oh, and it will NOT have to wait to an election day either. NONE of them are safe politically, OR electorally. They need to be REMINDED of that.
It must be GREAT to be a self absorbed narcissist, and tell we the people what we can and CANNOT do, even to CURE ourselves. That is why this crisi, and the way it was overblown is so DANGEROUS.
Trump KNOWS that we the people, like a caged animal, CANNOT be held in quarantine for too long, or being Americans, we WILL push back, and push back HARD.
He KNOWS, and is doing all he can, he sees the numbers, he sees the death rate declining, and he watches and listens to the BLATANT propaganda and taking advantage of the crisis by the left and the MSM. He also knows that nothing but 24/7 virus news WILL lead to cabin fever, and then to ANGER.
Like a coiled spring, this can ONLY be held up for SO long. Trump is offering the light at the end of the tunnel, the left keep moving the goal post, and THAT shows the TRUE agenda, they want a recession, which is technically 2 or more quarters of negative growth, that would mean 6 months, hey just in time for the election.
There is simply NO WAY the American people will put up for MORE than ONE month of this, WON’T HAPPEN, no matter all the public safety and patriotic duty blather the left push. Trump knows, he knows he too was snowed by the projections, but he acted in GOOD FAITH, and did what needed to be done.
Now he ALSO must do what needs to be done, and get this country moving again. Look at the country as a freight train, it is EASY to slow down OR speed up. It is VERY hard to stop on a dime, and even HARDER to start it back up from zero to full speed.
Right now we are NOT stopped, but we ARE crawling, a couple locomotives are down. Trump is busy fixing them on the fly, and soon he will fire up one, and then the other, and we be ROLLING again.
World Health Organization is part of the resistance to all that is good and right in the world…
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RE: SWEET WORMWOOD – WHO doesn’t approve of it.
The WHO vs. the Tea Doctor
For once, an herbal remedy actually works. Why are malaria experts against it?
By Brendan Borrell
April 04, 2013 – 3:51 PM
ENTEBBE, Uganda—It’s a little after 9 a.m. on the Wagagai Flower Farm, and Robert Watsusi pedals a bicycle laden with two 3-gallon jugs of a hot, bitter black tea. As he rounds a corner, workers emerge from football field–size growing houses to imbibe their weekly dose of the elixir they say keeps them free from malaria. “When I see people taking it, I feel happy,” says Watsusi. “It is very good for everyone.”
The tea comes from sweet wormwood (Artemisia annua), the Chinese plant that is a source for the world’s most powerful anti-malarial treatments, which combine artemisinin derivatives with an older class of drugs. It can also be grown in wetter parts of Africa, and a year’s supply costs no more than a few dollars. Although the tea itself has traditionally been used in treatment, not prevention, in China, a randomized controlled trial on this farm showed that workers who drank it regularly reduced their risk of suffering from multiple episodes of malaria by one-third. For a group of people who were once waylaid by this mosquito-borne disease four or more times per year, the tea is a godsend.
Which is why you may be surprised to learn that the World Health Organization and a majority of malaria researchers are adamantly opposed to it. To be fair, there are compelling reasons not to endorse an herbal tea in a fight against a potentially deadly disease. After all, conventional single-molecule drugs are honed through chemistry to be safer, more specific, and more effective than their herbal progenitors. More critically, malaria experts worry that unregulated use of this tea could cause the malaria parasite to develop resistance to artemisinin drugs.
But the tea’s mere existence and its rapid spread challenges the view that conventional pharmaceuticals are the best and only way of managing Africa’s health care problems. After all, experts in the international aid world talk a lot about sustainability, and nothing is more sustainable than a drug grown on a shrub.
Of all the illnesses that have afflicted humanity over millennia, few have left their mark quite like malaria, which infects 200 million people each year and kills at least 655,000, most of whom are children. Falciparum malaria—the most common type in sub-Saharan Africa—starts as a debilitating fever, which can progress in severe cases to convulsions, brain damage, and death. In this part of the world, it’s almost impossible to stay completely free of the parasites for long. Adults often display a low level of immunity, which makes each subsequent infection painful and unpleasant but usually not fatal.
The story of artemisinin demonstrates that even the best malaria drugs are worthless if they are not getting to the people who need them. In the late 1990s, African malaria parasites had become resistant to standard treatments such as chloroquine, and malaria deaths in Uganda doubled in a decade. By the early 2000s, there was a proven alternative: artemisinin combination therapies. Nevertheless, the Global Fund for AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria repeatedly rejected countries’ requests for money for ACTs, funding failing treatments over ACTs at a rate of 10-to-1. In 2004, a group of fed-up scientists writing in the Lancet called these decisions “medical malpractice.” Today, although ACTs are heavily subsidized by the international aid community, local clinics frequently run out of stock, and Africans often end up with substandard, ineffective, and sometimes counterfeit medications.
Long before ACTs were available in Uganda, rumors of Artemisia’s powers began to spread. In 1998, a German organization called Action for Natural Medicine (Anamed) began distributing seeds and cuttings from Artemisia, including a potent hybrid called A3, in 75 different countries.
One day in the town of Masaka, I met an enthusiastic Ugandan woman named Rehema Namyalo, who founded the local Anamed outpost and makes her living advising her neighbors and selling herbal treatments. After giving a tour of her medicinal garden, she unfurled colorful, handmade posters. One read, “Making A3 Leaf Tea for Malaria Treatment for Adult of Weight 50kg+.” Another illustrates the proper spacing for Artemisia plants in a field.
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Okay, I decided to check out availability of Atemisia as an alternative to Hydroxychloroquine.
Here’s one reputable US herbal site. Completely out of stock.
You CAN buy seeds and grow your own, but might not be enough time at the moment.
The owner of Medicinal Seeds seems quite knowledgable.
I have Richo’s book on making herbal remedies. He IS very knowledgeable.
I will be ordering seeds to grow Artemisia annua. I already grow Artemisia absinthium.
These plants CAN BE POISONOUS in too high a dosage, so people need to be CAREFUL. Please, don’t contribute to the anti-Trump narrative by killing yourself like those Darwin Award winners with the fish tank chemical.
Aubergine, your surprising tidbit of reply-comment leads me to SMH in wonder at the readers/talkers of Wolfie’sWorld. I offer a corollary:
Never suppose there is a field/subject/information in the purview of professionals/officials/high-paids in which a QTree/CTH person can not offer better informed thoughts. Freedom is always preferable to Washington DC.
I SWEAR this is true.
Amazing to me as well.
Thank you for that lovely compliment! And I agree, we have some incredible minds here, people much smarter than me!
TTT, I cannot find any research that shows wormwood having EGCG, the compound in chloroquine which allows zinc to fight the virus. While wormwood is anti-parasitic and has a few anti-microbial properties, it can be very toxic. Please do more research before going whole hog on this herb. For more natural EGCG, look into bitter green tea.
Magamom, rather than relying on internet, may I suggest you take an 8 yr MD/DO program, or a 6 yr ARNP program, or at least a 3 yr Master Herbalist program that is certified or Guild approved. Or invest the time and do all 3, in phases. Time spent in study, is much nicer than time spent in unsure anxieties.
Wow!! Thanks for the vote of confidence in my academic abilities! 😉
Raising a son so no time for career/school. Plus Way to old for such things anyway as I am in my…well, no spring chicken and in a higher risk category for WuFlu.
Husband MD/PhD at top 10 medical school … but not me and not now.
I can’t imagine studying for the MCATs, later for the boards, keeping those med school hours, the ER, OB/GYN or Internal medicine rotations…residency…tired just thinking about it! ha Plus, I would need to probably take some undergrad courses (I did Nothing biology/chem/math in undergrad) just to be ready for MCATs. Nope – not even a near possibility as I am pretty busy on my current career of housewife and now homeschool mom + political activism/volunteer.
Yes, we read many books and various sources + cross reference for possible interactions as well as read medical journals (I just read the abstracts! ha) and the details of studies, the inserts on meds and vaccines, etc. but I don’t need to have a degree to do that, now do I?
But thanks for the advice. so sweet of you to think I have that kind energy and intelligence!
Oops! Just noticed your last sentence, “Time spent in study, is much nicer than time spent in unsure anxieties.” Sorry if I came across as anxious when talking about wormwood.
I was curious and interested. No, am pretty confident in what we have on hand after ordering a few extra expectorants.
I went back to the web site because I was planning to place another order in April of usual things of which we are running low (esp. citrus that I use for cleaning). Was just nosey/curious as to what others were buying…kind of like shoppers looking into each other’s carts in the grocery store. 😉 ha!
Notice wormwood and wondered but not enough to look it up. Reading about it here reminded me of what I had seen and just musing/wondering/learning. That is all. I am always curious, always wanting to undersigned and always open to learning more. but not stressed or “anxious”. Sorry I gave that impression
I’m watching to see what substances are running out of stock more than reading the research papers. Seems you have some expertise and I appreciate your correction. Sorry if I misspoke.
this may explain why Butterfly Express is so low on wormwood. I have kept tabs on the items which have run out and the items that they are now limiting to 1 or 2 per customer as I am curious as to what other people are buying and then researching why that particular item is in sudden demand. Most I recognize and know why & some are part of the list I chose for us but some were new to me or a puzzle.
Wormwood was not one with which I was familiar and was still puzzled even after looking it up. Now it has become clear that others knew what they were doing as maybe a connection to anti viral? IDK – I get the olive leaf (anti viral), lobelia, lomatium, elderberries, etc. but didn’t get the run on wormwood. Will be interesting to learn more as results are made known.
It is spring. There is always a run on wormwood for those who do parasite cleanses. Ask your local Master Herbalist. Wormwood does not appear to have the virus-fighting compound in chloroquine.
And the same with olive leaf. It is a safer parasite cleanse for children, and pregant women. Although there is disagreement on pregnant women doing parasite cleanses in the first place.
I noticed the word ‘absinthium’. Can we drink this stuff? Hmm?
I figured that was the reason for the Walnut tincture and thought that might be the wormwood too. But now I am wondering if some might be using it as an antiviral???
I am for outside but we keep our shoes on so not as regular with spring cleanses. I am granola..with limits! ha
Left you a reply that may help, Maga, but it wound up on TTT’s reply. Sorry!
found it & replied above
This is important for GETTING BACK TO WORK.
ALL the ASYMPS.
ALL the RECOVERIES.
Back on the job WITHOUT ALL THE HIGH-LEVEL PROTECTIVE GEAR. Nature’s vaccine INSTALLED.
GOOD NEWS! First US Test Developed to See if People Were Already Infected by Coronavirus — Will Help Put America Back to Work!
March 24, 2020, 8:06 pm by Jim Hoft 102 Comments
To the source!
TGP quoted from this source article:
BREAKING: The First U.S. Test to Detect If a Person Has Potential Immunity to COVID-19 Was Just Developed
Kira Peikoff March 22, 2020
I think I’ve read that they’ve used plasma from some survivors in transfusion therapies, or at least it was under consideration.
Yes, there are plasma trials being done; I can’t recall where, but the Surgeon General mentioned it again today.
multiple paths, and then the TRUTH will be known that we all already had our bout with this and it is nowhere NEAR the level of PANIC the left instilled. Testing to see just WHO has already had this WILL tell the TRUTH, look for the left to ATTACK this, as it will DESTROY their weapon combined with the CURE(S)
There are simply MILLIONS here that have ALREAY had this and RECOVERED. THEY (we) ALL have antibodies that CAN be synthesized to make the antidote and it will be CHEAP, plentiful, and EASILY administered as a prophylaxes.
The problem as I see it is that we are operating on the patient while the out of control Gatling gun is spraying the emergency room.
UNETHICAL VIRUS RESEARCH MUST END!!!
GATES AND SOROS MUST ANSWER!!!
I can (and do) scroll past it here….but that image is what I take generic Xanax to avoid in real life. I’m not a leftist and I’m calling for no ban — but I don’t see how that image furthers your argument. Use it when it illustrates your point, please think twice when it is tangential.
And, BTW, when I don’t immediately click away from them, I’m a great fan of your posts.
THIS IS GOOD NEWS!!!
“While testing for COVID-19 ramps up around the country, there’s another kind of testing that will prove equally important to combating the pandemic: one that can detect whether someone has already been infected.
Why is this important? As former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb wrote in today’s Wall Street Journal: “If a sizable portion of a local community has some protection, authorities can be more confident in relying less on invasive measures. Once deployed, serological tests are cheap, straightforward, and easy to scale.”
Now, a microbiology lab at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai, led by Dr. Florian Krammer, has just announced the development of this serological test. Leapsmag spoke with Daniel Stadlbauer, a post-doctoral fellow in the lab who helped lead the work.
Is yours the first serological test available?
They did something similar in South Korea. In the U.S., it’s the first of these tests.
How close are we to rolling this test out to the public?
Last week, we started this process and we finished the protocol today. Mount Sinai is trying to roll this out in the next few days in the clinic to see which patients have been infected with coronavirus recently or have been infected at all.
The protocol we uploaded today can be used as a template for other research labs or hospitals to follow the steps we provided and they should then be able to set up the antibody test. The idea is that this assay can be established anywhere in the world following these steps.
Are there any bottlenecks to getting this rolled out – supply chain or regulation obstacles?
There are no regulations that say you can’t do it. Research labs and hospitals for sure can do it. I’m not aware of supply chain issues because you need basic lab equipment and materials, but I don’t think those are in short supply right now.”
LINK – https://leapsmag.com/breaking-the-first-u-s-test-to-detect-if-a-person-has-potential-immunity-to-covid-19-was-just-developed/
Perfect to establish those already infected.
Have we ever seen medicine move this fast?
Trump factor 5 Mr Crusher..ENGAGE!
Hope your back is feeling better. You do so many things helping to keep the Q-Tree in tip top shape! Blessings
Texas Greg Abbott showing how Texas gets it done!
Oh, hot d***! Gov Abbott wasn’t hiding behind the door when they were handing out smarts.
Wish he’d have gone just one step further though — if restaurants get something in five pound blocks, they should be able to sell half pound bags as “to-go” orders.
Yeah Abbott makes Texas proud.
Much better than Rick Perry.
Way ahead of George W.
Light-years ahead of idiot Democrat Ann Richards.
Huh? What’s a Beto?
I like Perry a LOT, but promoting Abbott was one of his very best moves! 😉
I so admire these “outside the box” innovative solutions during these times. THIS is where the USA is EXCEPTIONAL (although not alone…Israel comes to mind).
Ground report told to me: A local made a trip to a “business” Costco today.
No toilet paper.
Many “priced to sell” items in the frozen cases because restaurants aren’t buying the volume they stocked to service.
“Dr. Birx: people traveling from NY “should be self-quarantining for 14 days to ensure the virus doesn’t spread.”
Dr. Fauci: “We don’t want [traveling from NY] to be another seeding point for the rest of the country.”
Los Angeles Mayor Garcetti has a solution for that.
Anyone who attempts to leave NY gets their power and water shut off.
Go ahead Cuomo, try it.
I dare ya 😂
Next step — Carnival offers 14-day cruises from NYC to Miami with entry upon arrival…..
This is a pregnant idea!
This could be really bad. 6 cases so far, 1800 residents and staff.
BREAKING: White House and Senate Reach Late Night MASSIVE $2 TRILLION Stimulus Package Deal
March 25, 2020, 12:51 am by Cassandra Fairbanks
And with Trump in the white house, I actually believe there’s a non zero chance that this bill does not contain any elephant turds.
LOL! Suspicious Cat is suspicious, but smells no elephant turds yet!
Oh, believe me, I’m thinking it’s likely that a few are in there.
But for once in my life I’m not *positive* there are some.
It wouldn’t pass without an elephant turd or two….but our VSGPOTUSDJT knows how to get smart people to do their best. I’m suspecting boobytrapped and poisoned elephant turds. Or great big American Greatness results with a thin camouflage coating of uniparty turd to move it along.
Oh, a poo-encased grenade for the other side wouldn’t bother me.
Oh and to be clear, I don’t doubt there are smaller ones…a few cow flops, a number of rabbit raisins, and swarms of mouseturds.
I’m talking about BIG ones here.
South Korea has been using HCQ in late February already:
Interesting question…obvious answer is because it doesn’t fit the China/Soros media agenda.
However, could easily be brought up in daily briefings and on POTUS Twitter.
They want their weapon, and this DESTROYS it, that is why. Like everything else, they think they can hide the TRUTH by obfuscation, stalling, and flat out NOT reporting. They NO LONGER get away with it under Trump!
Someone already posted this in our research weeks ago. Dr. Oz said he read also. He’s been reading all the published studies from overseas and helping promote chloroquine as an option.
Despite the (expletives deleted) Democrats*…..
*who, like Cuomo, neglected to buy ventilators and protective equipment, electing instead to implement some leftist stupid death cult agenda.
NYT and MSNBC are fake news.
“NYT columnist @michelleinbklyn repeated the lie that a man died after taking an “untested drug” for coronavirus.
It was not the prescription medication President Trump has mentioned. The man ingested fish tank cleaner.
Why didn’t @AriMelber correct the record for viewers?”
Fauci lays it out!
Exactly. I feel blessed to have a few days. No respirators for Wolf if I go south.
I am going to have to cut off all contact with people in real life, I think. I can’t afford to get this again. On the bright side, that will heighten my security situation immensely.
$0R0$ funding COVID-19 attack ads against Trump.
Truly a crappy thing to do a this time.
I think many will see it as horrible and it will backfire among all but the rabid leftists
No one ever said the man had anything other than self interest in the marrow of his old, brittle bones.
Soros wants HIS weapon, and yes, somewhere down the line HE is involved…bank on it.
He’s fighting for his life. He funded this IMMORAL and UNETHICAL research, along with BILL GATES.
As has been said, they will not be able to walk in public; yet they are facing infinitely greater punishment in eternity:
VOTING DEMOCRAT = NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES!
Across the nation – Democrat strongholds have many more cases of COVID-19 than Republican cities and states.
The Silver Bullet for hyper-partisan Dracula Governor Andrew Cuomo.
Cuomo was advised to buy 16K ventilators in 2015 for his state to properly plan for a pandemic, but instead put together a “death panel” to ration use of the ventilators should there be a pandemic “similar to he Spanish Flu of 1918”. He didn’t spend the 576 million at the time.
Instead, he did things like a “Buffalo Boondoggle” investing 750 million in “green energy” ideas which resulted in failures.
This article was written by the former Lt Governor of New York.
Here is the actual report from New York on how they chose to ration care: Ventilator Allocation Guidelines https://www.health.ny.gov/…/…/docs/ventilator_guidelines.pdf
This is a big deal. I think this explains why Cuomo was so nice to Trump. Talk about a skeleton in the closet.
This fact alone removes Cuomo from the field for 2020 election.
This may explain why the media is working so hard to protect Cuomo, giving him total slack on antimalarial use, while bitterly criticizing the usage elsewhere. Then they will create a numerical mythos that NY socialized medicine under Cuomo was the reason NY death rate was so small compared to the rest of the country.
This is just it. Too many of the liberal control cities/states have been too busy trashing Trump, supporting Illegals, and making sure they have the butts of non-Americans covered.
Sad that now so many are affected by the mistakes &/or misspending of liberal leaders, but damn hope it is a lesson learned by all Americans
Part of the reason the Democrat areas have more cases is that they are the large, crowded cities that have more international travel.
What I find startling is the way the issues are being handled so differently by leftists v. conservatives. Even on a county level – voting matters and party matters! We have been told party affiliation does not matter in local elections – – WRONG! When we know underlying party affiliation, we know which way they will go when there is an issue on statues, guns, epidemics, etc. We need partisan local elections so we know what their underlying political philosophies are.
Lets see, didn’t some big eared blowhard disaster leftist say “elections have consequences”? Yep they DO.
This is for Wolf. No idea how reliable this chap is but MCT oil has quite a good reputation and if you have any sort of nebulizer this oil may help your lungs. https://youtu.be/HmrbqzST0CU
P. S. Thank you to everyone at this tree for helping to keep everything in perspective when the western world seems to have lost its mind.
This is extremely interesting, and matches up with my theory about why intravenous mega-vitamin C works, too.
I believe that the ChiComs and Iranians tested their Gates-Soros-funded biological weapons on prisoners. Those prisoners would have been biologically centered on “normal” physiology, except possibly for SMOKING cigarettes. Killing smokers would be advantageous to these eugenicists, anyway – they clearly liked this one.
But the most important point is this – the bioweapons were EVOLUTIONARILY SELECTED for NORMAL PHYSIOLOGY.
Any treatments which THROW OFF normal biochemistry can derail – to different extents – the biochemistry that the virus needs to propagate, wherever the virus is in the body.
Thus, a biochemically “too reducing” (ascorbic acid, a.k.a. vitamin C) or a biochemically too fatty (MCT) environment makes the virus replication FAIL. Ditto hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine.
Because the virus is functionally like HIV due to bioengineering, it has “functionally inherited” the ability of HIV to synergize with other organisms, a.k.a. opportunistic infections. THAT is where azithromycin comes in – killing the pneumonia organisms that piggyback on ChiCom-19.
It is important that we shut down GATES-SOROS UNETHICAL IMMORAL VIRUS RESEARCH worldwide.
A few days back there was a threadreader post (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1236549305189597189.html ) that said:
“… 2/25 The soap dissolves the fat membrane and the virus falls apart like a house of cards and “dies”, or rather, we should say it becomes inactive as viruses aren’t really alive. Viruses can be active outside the body for hours, even days. …”
That had me thinking, outside of inhaling soap bubbles, how could something reach the lungs to destroy these double lipid rings, rendering the virus inactive?
Sounds like that may do it.
And the HIV chunks are especially dastardly, as they could be “reuseable code”, as it were…
Here is the YouTube. Hope our friends SAVE this before Susan Wocommie bans it.
Wait, wolf, I just had a bad thought. Recall ALL the mysterious vaping ailments, and deaths attributed to vaping. Was THAT part of the Covid 19 “test run’ It disproportionately affected young vapers, so much so that trump BANNED fruit flavored vapes.
Is there MORE to that story? or am I just in overdrive because of this attack?
My take on the vape issue was it was an information gathering tool to determine how best to exploit CV hysteria. Now I’m listening to this it sounds like it could of also been trying to rid vaping least someone stumbles on something like this.
That was bootleg THC that had added vitamin E oil. Last I checked, All the deaths were attributed to that except 1. Vitamin E is deadly to the lungs.
Thanks, it was just coincidental, and anecdotal then.
Somebody else here (maybe para or sadie) postulated that there might have been virus in certain vaping products.
I keep an open mind on the idea that there may be a relationship to vaping that we don’t understand yet.
The timing, symptoms, are just ERRIRLY similar. There are NO coincidences.
Someone elsewhere left me a comment on a post saying: “It is interesting to note that vaporised propylene glycol, present in some vaping products, is deadly to some viruses.”
So after seeing this I’ve since done a search and find this Nov 2009 story refrencing a 1942 study. “The researchers also found that “the propylene glycol itself was a potent germicide. One part of glycol in 2,000,000 parts of air would–within a few seconds–kill concentrations of air-suspended pneumococci, streptococci and other bacteria numbering millions to the cubic foot.”
Meanwhile just in last four to five days my radio suddenly keeps blurting out this Greta Thunberg style PSA about E cigs and Propylene glycol telling e cig users how dangerous it is to vape because of the pg, something long ago refuted. I thought it strange to be sending this out in the midst of the CV pandemic.
More recent. Research shows propylene glycol vapor kills airborne influenza virus
by Matt Rowland March 11, 2020
AKISMET held in spam!
PSA. Yes, fake news.
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S TASK FORCE GUIDELINES and cutting off travel from hot spot countries is working according to FL 10 week stats – new cases are down almost 50%.
Power of Social Distancing:
How about VIRUS RESEARCH MORAL DISTANCING FROM SOROS, GATES AND CHICOMS???
Ya know, I think we all should socially distance Gates and Soros from their MONRY, and then socially quarantine them in a nice 6×9 room in GITMO for an incubation period of 0-25 years.
Just to be safe, make it 50! 😉
Mild symptoms, too.
They need to get him the antivirals FAST. SARS can begin within a few days.
Man I hate when that happens.
May he Rest in Peace.
Priest with Coronavirus gives up his ventilator to a younger patient and dies
A beloved Italian priest suffering with the Coronavirus Covid-19 has died after reportedly sacrificing his ventilator to ensure a younger patient could be treated.
Yup. They ARE rationing care in Italy, AS REPORTED.
Fauci, Trump, DeWine – AHEAD OF THE CURVE !!!!!
When will SOROS give up HIS VENTILATOR???
Right after he gives up his daily HCQ pill.
Soros and Gates probably have the engineered antidote.
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “eat your own dogfood”
A timeline of China’s attempts to cover-up the COVID-19 outbreak
The Daily Wire, an American news site linked to Ben Shapiro, has released a devastating timeline highlighting the attempts of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) to cover up the COVID-19 oubreak. It details how the CCP tried to hid the existence of the virus through a combination of aggressive actions against their own citizens, destroying samples of the virus held by labs which the CCP didn’t directly control, detaining journalists, and lying to the World Health Organisation (WHO) about the nature and severity of the virus.
Akismet hid this. Please, President Trump – investigate these censoring demons, helping CHINA, Bill Gates, and SOROS!!!
God Bless The Navy!
Our Guy in the White House retweeted this:
US – more tests and better tests!
President Trump wanted USA to have the best quality – most reliable tests!!!
Gates and Bergoglio, sitting in a tree….
I am REALLY getting sick of Bill “Virus Frankenstein” Gates.
please see my post below…
So, I will stick with oral zinc. Interesting timing on this approval date. No, I did not download the pdf.
Gates, a thief and con man turned billionaire (see the movie Pirates of Silicon Valley) turned megalomaniacs bent on world devastation. All he is missing is Frau Bissida, mini me, and Mr. Biggles worth.
this is something that is very concerning , imo…so I’m posting this, FWIW…Wolf might find it interesting, and others here, as well…
it has to do with what’s known as ID 2020 …and Bill Gates …and PANDEMICS and mandatory vaccines …..as well as a sinister agenda that might be taking place…
…and the very coincidental timing of COVID-19 (on many levels)…
please watch and listen ….stick with it…
next…please go here…
article (and website)…
ID 2020 And Partners Launch Program To Provide Digital ID With Vaccines
from September 2019
notice everything .
next….in Hindsight…please read this…from Event 201 …Geneva, Switzerland, October 15, 2019 …
LIVE Simulation Exercise To Prepare Public And Private Leaders For Pandemic Response
(when was the first COVID-19 case ?)
and…just saying… if a strong and effective American President like, say, President Donald J. Trump, were to, say, pose a massive threat to, say, some sort of sinister agency afoot intentionally causing pandemic mayhem in order to make mandatory RFID personal surveillance/tracking chips under the pretense of, say, vaccinations against said pandemic, what better timing for said pandemic mayhem Round 1 than the very same election year of said strong American President President Donald J. Trump ?
Dr Shiva Ayyadurai can’t stand vaccines. Thinks it’s a scam .
Mark of the Beast comes to mind.
yes…it does come to mind…altho, as we know, the so-called “Beast” is not yet on the scene…so this is not THE mark…but this certainly is a foreshadowing (imo) of HOW that system could easily be implemented at a time of sudden global panic and economic collapse…world chaos…and the fact that the UN, the Eugenics crowd (Gates et al) have been and are now hard at work creating and propagating this thru ID 2020 is unnerving…in fact, if you go to the ID 2020 website which I posted above in a reply I made to Wolf, and if you scroll down to the bottom of that homepage, you’ll see a section called Who We Are…and as part of Who They Are, you will see what they refer to as their Certification Mark referring to the ID vaccine chips.
oops…sorry…my reply to Wolf is actually posted below ….with the web link.
My first comment, before even getting past “Dakota” and her TED intro…..
Why the FUCK do I have to have an “ID” anyway? I can’t get on a ventilator with or without one, despite paying a substantial fraction of my lifelong income into a health system that promised everything and delivered nothing. THEY gave me a fucking virus which nobody in their right mind should have OBTAINED, MODIFIED, and RELEASED – a.k.a. CREATED.
Fuck these people. They CREATE the problems and then offer “solutions” – and the only reason to do it is to CHANGE HUMANITY toward some UNHOLY VISION that they won’t be honest about.
Yep, more bible coming TRUE, the mark of the beast the antichrist and pestilence. Luckily, GOD wins.
Dakota Gruener is Exec Director of ID 2020…
here is that site…
part of who they are: steering the market towards good digital ID solutions through a Certification Mark …
steering the market…thru their mark .
And if they can’t inject nanoparticles with the vaccine, no worries! They can inject them with the cure. Approved January 28th, 2020.
American Regent had previously discontinued zinc-sulfate injection, because it did not have FDA aporoval. It receives approval on Jan 28th, 2020. Not sure whuch way to go with this; one, medicine at Trump speed, or, two, opportunity to inject nanoparticles. Will try to research the comany more.
680WPTF (Raleigh), news conference with MAYOR SCHEWEL:
DURHAM, NC is now under an order of STAY AT HOME (a “kinder” way of saying Shelter in Place) starting today, and that will operate until AT LEAST APRIL 20. The mayor may shorten OR EXTEND the order depending on re-evaluation. This order applies to ALL “non-essential” businesses and services.
Law enforcement from all departments and on all levels, as of today, are DEPUTIZED to enforce the order. Law enforcement will be patrolling the streets as of this afternoon.
There are now 76 cases of the Wuhan Coronavirus in Durham. Many of the cases are in people under 50 years old.
Addendum to the above:
The Durham order to Stay in Place will begin at 6PM tomorrow, Thursday March 16. The mayor apologized for any confusion.
Here’s an excellent piece in Tablet about the Hasidic Jews and the Holocaust survivors in Crown Heights in Brooklyn and the huge number infected
…tests POSITIVE for COVID-19…
March 25, 2020
Best comment so far: Glen Beck: “My first reaction was OH MY GOD is the Queen OK?”
exactly…who’s next in line after Charles ? Kate and…what’s his name…Harry’s brother…?
Yes, she is.
She is self-isolating now (precautionary).
The deputizing part is likely unconstitutional. The only legal means is by martial law. I think a test case is in order. And HOW TF is the virus spread blunted with every Bubba with a badge running around R-D accosting people getting food or going to essential work? Of course this is a Dem mayor doing what Dem mayors do best: exploit a crisis to go all-fascist.
what’s it all about ?
Sorry folks, I haven’t been doing a good job keeping up with the economic side, how CEOs and stock holders are gaming the system and profiting off the stock market tanking. No way they’ll get away with this (these people are STUPID)
Just to help connect the dots, the highly-connected state governors were targeted for the plot, it should be logical considering the number of idiot SJW companies that the CEOs of businesses were likewise widely targeted and often in the exact same meetings that Mike Pompeo warned about.
Why Did Hundreds Of CEOs Resign Just Before The World Started Going Absolutely Crazy?
by Tyler Durden
Wed, 03/25/2020 – 11:00
For what it’s worth:
Sounds like they’re back to the bat theory. smh
They’ve gone batshit…in more than one way.
well…here’s (another) coincidence…
Kristian Anderson (in yr linked article) is an Immunologist (scientist) working for Scripps Research out of California..
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Gives Scripps Research $50M
“…the key to more success involves Scripps’ growing relationship with the Gates Foundation…”
I actually posted something about that from 2013 down below. Take a look.
We’re now up to over 60,000 cases in the US. We’re going to end up with more cases than supposedly China had.
We are testing more people than they are.
Fatalities is a better (but still somewhat subject to sampling error) metric.
Cases of Coronavirus are still not even a 1/10 of the number of flu cases being reported.
Remember many aren’t going in if they think it is the flu and more are probably so scared they will go in to be tested for Coronavirus at the slightest sign of a cough.
White House China Virus Task Force Press Briefing – 5pm today!
CSPAN – https://www.c-span.org/video/?470675-1/white-house-coronavirus-task-force-briefing
Interesting that the Coronavirus has been in America since December or January–yet has not come close to the numbers CDC reported for flu.
Not sure where I read it, but I thought I read where someone said that some hospital actually reported a case of the Coronavirus in November .
From October 1, 2019, through February 22, 2020, the CDC estimates there have been:
32,000,000 – 45,000,000 flu illnesses
14,000,000 – 21,000,000 flu medical visits
310,000 – 560,000 flu hospitalizations
18,000 – 46,000 flu deaths
If the seasonal flu has such large actual case, hospitalization and death numbers, then why weren’t there already critical shortages of –
Hospital isolation rooms
Intensive care rooms and equipment
Where are the procedures such as closing group meetings, closings schools, restricting travel, isolation, and quarantine to stop the spread of the deadly seasonal flue?
Did we let all these people just, ho-hum, die. Or maybe could the CDC numbers be a bit suspect?
I have been fascinated to learn that our flu stats are informed estimates v. actual numbers of diagnosed cases. When estimates are made for total Wuhan flu cases based on actual diagnosed cases, WuFlu totals will be much larger
25 million are confirmed cases
So, then, why weren’t hospitals swamped by flu?
Many have tried to dismiss the ChiComCrud as somehow “less than” the flu, counting the number of cases, counting the number of fatalities, in one case insisting that any case involving the flu should be counted as a flu fatality, while CCC should only be considered the cause of death if there were no chronic conditions.
So how is it the hospitals WERE NOT overwhelmed by the flu, but ARE on the verge of being overwhelmed in NY by THIS??
Doesn’t that make this WORSE by at least one very important metric?
Because they went to doctors…Remember this is all of America…As they said it was probably double since many don’t even go to the doctors.
Hey I had the flu last year and I have a few dozen co-workers, friend and other associates that got the flu, with only a few that went to the doctor. FYI I didn’t go to the doctor, I just stayed in bed for 3 days and drank plenty of liquids