“We do not believe any group of men adequate enough or wise enough to operate without scrutiny or without criticism. We know that the only way to avoid error is to detect it, that the only way to detect it is to be free to inquire. We know that in secrecy error undetected will flourish and subvert.” –J. Robert Oppenheimer
Thanks to acting Director of National Intelligence, Richard Grenell, a number of previously withheld behind closed doors questioning transcripts are now available for public viewing. As with many deposition type documents, they can be long, but hopefully will be informative. Here’s the list with live links.
The United States Intelligence Community (IC), at the bipartisan request of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI), reviewed 53 transcripts for classification. The IC made appropriate redactions, lowering the classification level of all 53 transcripts to UNCLASSIFIED. Each transcript can be accessed by clicking on the names below.
From the Judiciary Committee webpage as of April 29, 2020:
The Senate Judiciary Committee released an additional declassified transcript between George Papadopoulos and an FBI confidential human source (declassified on April 24, 2020). (document)
As of the evening of April 16, 2020, the Senate Judiciary Committee has begun declassifying the documents that we’ve all been waiting for: The FISA warrant applications used to spy on members of the 2016 Trump Campaign for president.
Confidential human source transcripts related to the Crossfire Hurricane operation
Transcript of George Papadopoulos and FBI Confidential Human Source (declassified March 13, 2020) (document)
Transcript of George Papadopoulos and FBI Confidential Human Source (declassified April 1, 2020) (document)
FISA Warrant Application for Carter Page and Three Subsequent Renewals
FISA Warrant Application for Carter Page (document)
FISA Warrant Application for Carter Page, Renewal One (document)
FISA Warrant Application for Carter Page, Renewal Two (document)
FISA Warrant Application for Carter Page, Renewal Three (document)
A July 2018 letter from DOJ to the FISA court alerting the court to some of the significant errors and omissions in the Carter Page FISA applications (letter)
The links are live to the documents that have been declassified. WARNING: most of them are REALLY long, as in over 80 pages, so for those whose bedtime reading is not legal documents, this thread will serve as a place to gather what the anons have been finding and sharing online in addition to what any of us find.
Please, post any findings, Tweets, images, emails, etc., found in the space below, and they will be added to future posts as the documents are made public.
As this declas effort is new, and will likely be dribbled out for proper public digestion, there will be new posts regularly sharing updates. It all depends on the volume of information, and the intensity as to whether or not this will recur daily, weekly, or as it happens.
We all know Di-Fi-Chi-Spy, the villainous Senator from California, had a Chinese spy as her office manager/driver for twenty years. But did you know her ties to China may have started before she was even born?
The genesis of this research was a posting scott467 made on 08 May 2020, here:
Dianne Feinstein’s mother was born in Harbin, China
The thing Anon doesn’t realize, however, is that Harbin is basically a border city with Russia. I know because I visited there once, and the people there are something of an admixture, by and large, with Russians coming down pretty regularly.
Given the timeframe and the name – I wouldn’t be shocked at all to learn that Betty Rosenberg Goldman were a Russian spy.
The Findagrave memorial page for Dianne Feinstein’s mother Betty Rosenberg Goldman, does indeed list her birthplace as Harbin, Heilongjiang, China.
The problem with Findagrave is that ANYONE can add information to it, pretty much. It’s kind of like the Wikipedia of the dead! I never trust information I can only find there. In this case, on top of all the other strangeness I discovered, the listing for Betty Goldman is managed by someone/thing that goes by the acronym FOIA (Freedom of Information Act?). The way Findagrave works is people go out and photograph in cemeteries and make listings for the graves they find. Anyone can sign up and do it. You can USUALLY contact the person who “manages” the listing for any grave if you need further information. BUT, FOIA at Findagrave is shown as “Not Accepting Messages.” Why would that be? Who is FOIA? FOIA maintains almost 24,000 listings. Who knows what I would find if I could research them all?
Since Findagrave can have information from anyone, unaccompanied by references or documentation, it has to be confirmed with other more reliable documents, so I went looking. And whoo-boy, I found another origin story full of strange! None of the dates add up, places of birth are different on just about every document, and names were Americanized, which is not uncommon, but it does make tracing a family harder. Something about this story made the hair stand up on the back of my neck, I have to say.
I got this message from Wolfmoon after I posted in a comment a few things I found in a quick look into this origin story:
“Take your time – no immediate rush – and better if it becomes authoritative b/c zero errors. There is obviously a bunch of BS, lies and cover – very expected – but WOW. Top commie has top lies.
I’m also interested if there are ties to the Autonomous Jewish Region [Oblast] near the border with China. This is where the Rosenberg’s (Julius and Ethel’s) silent partner George Koval came from, when he returned as an “American” to infiltrate the Manhattan Project in Oak Ridge and Dayton (polonium triggers).
Is there a “Rosenberg” connection? Unlikely, but who knows. Still, there may be a BIG PICTURE that comes out of this stuff.
Pinning down her past may explain a lot. Even if she wasn’t strong diaper, choosing an anti-diaper cover story says a lot.”
WOLFMOON
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There was an obit for Betty Goldman in the NY Times in 1983:
“Betty Goldman, the mother of Mayor Dianne Feinstein, died Tuesday at a nursing home after a long illness.
She was 76 years old. Deputy Mayor Hadley Roff said Mrs. Goldman had been “gravely ill” from a chronic brain syndrome for seven years. The daughter of a Czarist army officer, Mrs. Goldman was born in St. Petersburg, Russia.The family fled during the 1917 revolution by driving a haycart across Siberia to Shanghai, then emigrating to Eureka, Calif.”
There is definitely some weirdness here, and storytelling going on, as there is documentary evidence which disproves almost everything in this short obituary. I am not going to speculate on the meaning of any of this information; I am just going to give it to you straight as I found it. I report, you decide.
The Rosenberg family immigrated to the U.S. in 1910. This contradicts information found in Betty Rosenberg Goldman’s obituary, which claims the family fled the 1917 revolution. But immigration papers don’t lie, and before the “story” in the obit, comes the actual record:
The family is stated in the record to have emigrated from VLADIVOSTOK. The family was originally listed as Russian, but there is a strikeout of that, with “German” written over it. The “Last Permanent Residence” was originally “Harbin, Manchuria” but it, too, was struck and replaced by “Vladivostok, Siberia.” The “Nearest Relative in Country of Origin” is a brother-in-law in Ussury, Siberia, which is right on top of Vladivostok on the map. It is unclear whether there was some misunderstanding of where the family had come from, or if they were only transiting through Vladivostok on their way to America, but I would speculate that they were not in Vladivostok very long.
As Wolfmoon asked, I looked but didn’t find direct connections to the Oblast George Koval came from. It was formally established in 1928, and is about 300 miles from Harbin. However if, as I suspect, Betty Rosenberg’s father traveled along with the Trans-Siberian Railway as it was being built, it runs through the Oblast to Vladivostok. A spur line runs to Harbin, when Betty was born. Koval’s family immigrated to the U.S. from Belarus in 1910, the same year the Rosenbergs came to America from Vladivostok. David Rosenberg, Betty’s father, is stated to have been born in Riga, Russia, which is confirmed by his headstone. This is on the far western (European) side of Russia, about 200 miles from Belarus. Riga is 5700 miles from Vladivostok.
Every male on the immigration page with David Rosenberg was stamped with the occupation “farmer,” but many were struck out and something else written in. David’s was not, but I don’t assume that means he actually was a farmer. Was he a Czarist Army officer, as Betty Goldman’s obituary claims? The obit is full of falsehood, so there is some reason to doubt he was.
Since the listed relative in Russia was a brother-in-law in Ussury, Siberia, it is reasonable to speculate (but uncertain) that his wife, Efenia on this document (later Americanized to Helen), was born in Siberia. How David got from Riga to Ussery is unknown, but many Jews migrated along the path of the Trans-Siberian Railway, begun in Vladivostok in 1891. It was completed by working from both ends, the other end being Moscow. There are still today Jewish settlements all along its path.
The family left Russia to immigrate to America, arriving in Honolulu, Hawaii aboard the Tenyo Maru on 30 April 1910. They continued on to California, arriving in San Francisco in May 1910:
Name: David Rosenberg
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 40
Arrival Date: 2 0 May 1910
Port of Arrival: San Francisco, California
Ship Name: Tenyo Maru
Port of Departure: Hong Kong, China
The National Archives at Washington, D.C.; Washington, D.C.; Customs Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at San Francisco; NAI Number: 4478116; Record Group Title: Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 1787-2004; Record Group Number: 85
David Rosenberg died in 1914 in Eureka, California, only four years after arriving in the U.S.:
Efenia changed her name to Helen sometime after arriving in the U.S. The family appears in the census in 1920
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Helen Rosenberg
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Russia
Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 21, San Francisco, California
Year: 1920; Census Place: San Francisco Assembly District 21, San Francisco, California; Roll: T625_132; Page: 1A; Enumeration District: 9
In the 1930 census, Betty Rosenberg lived with her mother Helen, in San Francisco. She again stated she was born in Russia. Don’t get hung up on the estimated birth year, all the names from the Findagrave for Betty Rosenberg Goldman, including the siblings appear here. Son Phillip has disappeared in this census. He doesn’t appear on the census in California that year. He may have moved out of state, or left the country, but I can’t positively locate him:
Name: Betty Rosenberg
Birth Year: abt 1904
Gender: Female
Race: White Birthplace: Russia
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California, USA
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: 28th Ave.
Block: 240
House Number: 655
Dwelling Number: 217
Family Number: 356
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father’s Birthplace: Russia
Mother’s Birthplace: Russia
Language Spoken: Russian
Immigration Year: 1910
Naturalization: Alien
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Model
Industry: Cloak and Suit
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Household Members:
Name Age
Helen Rosenberg 55
John Rosenberg 32
Betty Rosenberg 26
Annie Rosenberg 24
THEN, in 1940, Betty claims she was born in CALIFORNIA, and Dianne Goldman, who will become Dianne Feinstein, appears:
Name: Betty Goldman
[Betty Rosenberg]
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Gender: Female
Race: White Birthplace: California
Marital status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Fillmore
House Number: 3672
Inferred Residence in 1935: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 62B
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: College, 2nd year
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Leon Goldman 36
Betty Goldman 34
Diannne Goldman 6
Yvonne Goldman 3
The Social Security Death Index lists Betty Rosenberg Goldman’s date of birth as 25 Jun 1907, as do other documents where she would have been the declarant. This doesn’t match her headstone. It states she was born 25 Jun 1906. We’ll assume SHE knew her date of birth, and the headstone is incorrect.
Curiously, the Findagrave listing for her husband, Leon Goldman, states that the couple divorced in 1963. However, they are buried together:
Leon Goldman died in 1975, eight years before his ex-wife.
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So, that still leaves the question I began my quest with. Was Betty Goldberg born in China, Russia, or California? All of these places have appeared somewhere in her history. BUT, her naturalization document tells the tale:
This document CONFIRMS Betty Goldman’s birthplace as HARBIN, CHINA. Betty was THIRTY-THREE when this document was filed, so she absolutely knew what year she immigrated as a child. If she told her own children otherwise, it was deliberate, not accidental.
So now we know for certain. Dianne Feinstein’s connection to China began before she was even a thought in her mother’s head. Who knows how this family connection influenced her over the years. Did it make her merely soft-hearted toward the Chinese, and easily fooled, or complicit in their treachery?
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Our movement
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Candidate Donald J. Trump
Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:
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Seriously – FRANCE just banned use of HCQ for treating COVID-19.
DUMB!
Looks like there is going to be a SCIENCE and MEDICINE FIGHT in the middle of RIOTS and DECLAS.
