We Are Not At The Brink…Yet

Those who are ignorant of history are doomed to repeat it.

Some people just have to learn the hard way.

Yes, those are platitudes that many of us like to spout when history DOES actually repeat itself, and when young anarchists are persuaded or paid to give communal and what we call communistic living a shot. Really. We do this. It is happening in multiple corners of the internet, including Professor Jonathan Turley comparing what is happening right now to the French Revolution when the mobs in Paris defaced quite a bit of property and destroyed anything that reeked of privilege. Personally, this writer believes a more apt comparison can be made to other ugly times in history, but the point is the same: the people were sent to the brink.

https://youtu.be/BP-pqhXvI7Y

With the current generation of young anarchists claiming what amounts to colonies within American cities, trying out communal living for the upteenth time in trying to improve on the Paris Commune of 1871, the words of the first governor of Plymouth Plantation – the original American commune that failed – resonate.

(Forget the tall tale that is told about the Pilgrims and the first Thanksgiving which is taught in schools and has become legend. The real truth is a lot less romantic.)

From The Story of the Plymouth Commune:

The real story is much more interesting than the simplified version we learned as school children and offers valuable insight into solutions to our economic problems.

Over half of the 101 Pilgrims who first landed on Cape Cod were dead within the first few months of their arrival, victims of disease, harsh weather conditions and malnutrition. Over the next three years, 100 more settlers joined Plymouth Plantation, but the colony was barely able to feed itself. According to William Bradford, the first governor of the colony, the Pilgrims were so destitute that “many sold away their clothes and bed coverings [to the Indians]; others (so base were they) became servants to the Indians and would cut them wood and fetch them water for a capful of corn; others fell to plain stealing, both night and day, from the Indians … .”

Why was this happening? New England may not have the most temperate climate or the most fertile soil, but the Native Americans had managed to grow food and feed themselves. What prevented the Pilgrims from doing likewise?

The answer, it turns out, was an incorrect political economic decision imposed on the colony by the investors in the Mayflower. Before you blame capitalism (a term which had not yet been coined) and bankers, however, understand that the cause of the Pilgrims’ problems was the decidedly anti-capitalist property distribution scheme these investors imposed. They assumed that common property ownership would be the most profitable arrangement under which the Pilgrims could work and produce in order to pay back the money fronted them for their voyage. These investors turned Plymouth Plantation into a collectivized farm.

The results were disastrous. Where there is not ownership there is no pride and little incentive. Governor Bradford explained it this way: “For the young men, that were most able and fit for labour and service, did repine that they should spend their time and strength to work for other men’s wives and children without any recompense.” Those who did more of the work also felt it unjust that they should receive no greater reward than those who did little, Bradford said, and husbands resented that their wives were forced to cook and care for men to whom they were not married.

The problem was solved when each household was given a private plot of land to tend. “This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious,” Bradford reported, “so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble and gave far better content.”

Bradford blamed the failed collectivization experiment on “that conceit of Plato,” referencing the Greek philosopher’s advocacy of collective ownership of land, and said those who believed communal property would make people “happy and flourishing” mistakenly thought themselves “wiser than God.”

Those who blame the “greedy investors” for this debacle miss the point. The Pilgrims were not in conflict with those who had enabled them to flee to the New World but with each other. Some saw an opportunity to slack off while others supported them, and those willing to work became decidedly less willing when they saw no more benefit to themselves than to their lazy fellow colonists.

As is always the case when an economic system fails, it was a failure of human nature rather than the system. But since human nature itself is eternal and does not seem to change no matter how hard utopians try to force it to, it makes sense that a system which accepts human nature and works with it to produce the best results will succeed.

Seriously, communal living and work distribution only works in the Biblical sense, when dedication to God is involved.

From the Acts of the Apostles, Chapter 2:

[42] And they were persevering in the doctrine of the apostles, and in the communication of the breaking of bread, and in prayers. [43] And fear came upon every soul: many wonders also and signs were done by the apostles in Jerusalem, and there was great fear in all. [44] And all they that believed, were together, and had all things common. [45] Their possessions and goods they sold, and divided them to all, according as every one had need.

[46] And continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they took their meat with gladness and simplicity of heart; [47] Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord increased daily together such as should be saved.

And even then, personality conflicts prevent true peace and tranquility in communal living.

It can be done, solving the conflicts, but it takes change on the part of at least one person to make it happen.

And to get the transformation to take place, the person changing must be at the brink, the precipice, when they think nothing else will solve the problem, a lot like an addict admitting they have hit bottom.

An illness. A marriage or any other relationship falling apart. Financial ruin. A special needs family member. A profession that dies. All of these situations force change that either encourages growth or results in disaster.

In the current national situation where we find ourselves: Freedoms in peril; A nation in danger of dissolving; Decades of work destroyed….

That’s what it is taking to get the people to wake up, and walk away from the dark side.

What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. (I’m full of these platitudes today.) What we are witnessing is the American people being taken to the brink. We, the red-pilled and the people who understand that the CHAZ colony in Seattle, among others, is a futile exercise, see the entire situation as a demonstration of weakness among Democrat leaders – which it is – but those who are still supportive of Democrats don’t. They still reside in an echo chamber that has nothing more to say than Orange Man Bad, and mail in voting. That echo chamber is in the process of being destroyed.

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The ‘how’ will be hard to understand for most.
Focus on the ‘why’.
The ‘when’ is now.
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Why is this happening? To save the nation, and the world, from enslavement and murder by a group of people who think they were created more equal than others. No, it is not going to be pretty. It is going to be rough, and there are times it will seem that all hope is lost.

In the end, though, God wins.

In the meantime, we’re in for a wild ride. Buckle up.

Dear KMAG: 20200614 Open Topic

It’s not just a difference of political viewpoint.

The Gospel is hidden to those who are lost,
whose unbelieving minds the god of this world has blinded.


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“Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.”

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The Storm is upon us.
Please remember to Pray for our President.


Our movement is about
replacing a failed and CORRUPT political establishment
with a new government
controlled by you, the American People.

~ Candidate Donald J. Trump


Also remember Wheatie’s Rules:

  1. No food fights.
  2. No running with scissors.
  3. If you bring snacks, bring enough for everyone.

And,


On this day and every day –

God is in Control
. . . and His Grace is Sufficient, so . . .
Keep Looking Up


Hopefully, every Sunday, you can find something here that will build you up a little . . . give you a smile . . . and add some joy or peace, very much needed in all our lives.

“This day is holy to the Lord your God; do not mourn nor weep.” . . . “Go your way, eat the fat, drink the sweet, and send portions to those for whom nothing is prepared; for this day is holy to our Lord. Do not sorrow, for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”


The Signs of the Times

WuFlu Spreads – Nursing Homes Decimated – Isolation – Social Distancing

Excessive Force – Racial Prejudice – Riots – Looting – Burnings – Injuries – Death

Throw Water, Then “Shakes” – Then Bottles, Bricks, Bullets and Bombs

Hands Up – Take A Knee – Defund Police – Sign Black Agenda

Demonstrate In Parks, Then Streets – Occupy City Hall, Then Precinct

Antifa – Black Lives Matter – Marxists – Socialist Bureaucrats

Lying Media – Corrupt Politicians – Traitors – Anarchists


Millions in the U.S. either personally believe or support people who believe that:

  • Although the threat of spread of COVID-19 requires that businesses and churches must be closed, families isolated in their homes, people prohibited from using parks or walking alone on a deserted beach, it’s acceptable for thousands of people to gather together for hours to protest police use of excessive force, and, in the process, killing and injuring people, looting and burning businesses.
  • Although 3,000 Black Americans are murdered by Black Americans every year without public protest, it’s acceptable to riot, causing multiple deaths, hundreds of police injuries, and hundreds of millions of dollars of damage, because systemic racial prejudice by police is baselessly assumed as the root cause of the death of a drug addicted, porn acting, counterfeit money-passing career criminal with multiple convictions and jail sentences.
  • Although pets and other animals must be treated with care and compassion, it’s acceptable to strike people you disagree with politically with bike locks, hammers, 2 x 4s and the like.
  • Although micro aggressions must be identified and stopped because they’re hurtful, it’s acceptable to loot and burn down businesses as a means of protesting policies or actions you disagree with.
  • Although COVID-19 requires that extreme isolation and quarantine actions be taken to prevent its spread, it’s acceptable to require that COVID-19 positive patients be placed in nursing homes with elderly patients with comorbidities who are the most vulnerable group for death in the U.S. population.
  • Although your psychological health and physical well-being must be protected, it’s acceptable to mechanically tear apart babies in the womb or cut the spinal cord of their exposed heads with scissors to kill them, and then to sell their body parts for thousands of dollars.
  • Although Socialist leaders and regimes have ruined the lives and caused the deaths of millions of people in the last century, it’s acceptable to insist on more and more Socialist policies be included in the laws and services of our democratic constitutional republic, the most successful government on earth.

These “Although” and “it’s acceptable” examples are just a few of the many inexplicable dichotomies that are integral to the destructive mindset of millions.

Most of us are bewildered at the lack of facts and logic that are inherent to this mindset.  We can’t comprehend how these harmful views can be held by any rational person, let alone millions of them.

Our laws are generally based on our Judeo-Christian heritage, principles and beliefs.  And therein, I believe, lies the root of the problem.

The two great principles that form the basis of Jewish and Christian thought and practice are:

Deuteronomy 6:5  You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.

Or, more expansively,

Deuteronomy 10:12-13  And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all His ways and to love Him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to keep the commandments of the Lord and His statutes which I command you today for your good?

And,

Leviticus 19:18  You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the Lord.

Leviticus 19:34  The stranger who resides with you shall be to you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt; I am the Lord your God.

And, of course, as summarized by Jesus,

Matthew 22:36-40  Teacher, which is the great commandment in the law?  Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

Love God and love your neighbor.  These are simple in concept, but, because we are weak, flawed and fallible humans, impossible in practice. 

But, these are God’s commands for us and, because He knows they are impossible for us in practice, “He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”  This is the Gospel that forms the beginning and foundation for our Christian beliefs.

If you try to apply general Christian teachings to support any of the “Although” and “it’s acceptable” examples above, you will fail.

Do we have Christian principles that tend to support forming crowds to protest certain actions . . . crowds that are first merely disruptive, but then lead to disobeying police, physical violence, looting, burning of businesses and injury and death?

1 Peter 2:17  – Show proper respect to everyone, love the family of believers, fear God, honor the emperor.

Romans 13:1 – Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

Romans 12:18  If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

1 Timothy 2:1-2 – I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people – for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.

Do we have Christian principles that would in any way condone policies that endanger then result in deaths of thousands of elderly?  The elderly are not people who have become a burden on society and who are now subject to removal.

Leviticus 19:32 “You shall stand up before the gray head and honor the face of an old man, and you shall fear your God: I am the Lord.

Do we have Christian principles that even remotely permit the killing of a baby in the womb, let alone allowing a born baby to dehydrate and die over a period of days after birth?

Job 31:15  Did not He who made me in the womb make him, and the same One fashion us in the womb?

Jeremiah 1:5  Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you;

Do we have Christian principles that mandate or support Socialism as a form of government?

There are many Biblical examples for those that have material goods to remember and even be generous to the poor.  But there is nothing that mandates or supports local government in confiscating the wealth of those that have more and distributing it to those that have less.

We are guided in our ethics, our morals, and our sense of right and wrong by God’s Word, our parents, our pastors, our friends and associates and the influence that God’s Word has had on society as a whole and our general precepts and specific laws.

But, referring back to the destructive mindset, there are millions in our country who don’t seem to be influenced by Judeo-Christian principles.  They seem to live at a different level of understanding than we do.  They don’t need and won’t accept facts or logic that contradict or show the negative consequences of their destructive mindset.

It’s as though they have fallen under the influence and control of something or someone else.  Well, perhaps that is exactly the answer.

John 1:5  The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

Romans 1:28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.

1 Corinthians 2:14  But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

2 Corinthians 4:3-4  But even if our gospel is hidden, it is hidden only to those who are lost, whose unbelieving minds the god of this world has blinded, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.

And that, I believe, is why it is entirely appropriate to label the violent demonstrations, the physical attacks on police and on the people supporting President Trump, the looting and burning of businesses, the resultant injuries and deaths, the recent calls to defund or disband those that enforce our laws, . . . all these actions operating in opposition to the Judeo-Christian principles that guide our lives . . . as evil, absolutely evil.

We may sooner or later get out of the messes that are near or at the level of a direct threat against the continued existence of our country, but we must not forget . . .

“If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.”


Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.

Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch-fires of a hundred circling camps;
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps,
His day is marching on.

I have read His fiery gospel writ in rows of burnished steel!
“As ye deal with my contemners, so with you My grace shall deal!
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,”
Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him; be jubilant, my feet!
Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me;
As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free!
While God is marching on.