Dear KAG: 20201208 Open Thread

Cover image: Eric Sloane (1905 – 1985) Bringing Home the Christmas Tree, 1955-56 Oil on board 22 x 32 inches 

At this point, there is so much information coming at us from all directions, we need the reminders:

https://twitter.com/BardsFM/status/1333535187456598018

Misinformation is real. So is the timeline that none of us are privy to.

Right now, it’s worth revisiting some of the old XVII classics just for a refresher. Emphasis is mine.

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Anonymous ID: Eka5Om1K No.147166292 📁
Oct 29 2017 20:48:50 (EST)
Some of us come here to drop crumbs, just crumbs.
POTUS is 100% insulated – any discussion suggesting he’s even a target is false.
Follow Huma tomorrow.
POTUS will not be addressing nation on any of these issues as people begin to be indicted and must remain neutral for pure optical reasons. To suggest this is the plan is false and should be common sense.
Focus on Military Intelligence/ State Secrets and why might that be used vs any three letter agency
What SC decision opened the door for a sitting President to activate – what must be showed?
Why is POTUS surrounded by generals ^^
Again, there are a lot more good people than bad so have faith. This was a hostile takeover from an evil corrupt network of players (not just Democrats).
Don’t fool yourself into thinking Obama, Soros, Roth’s, Clinton’s etc have more power present day than POTUS.
Follow the money, it’s the key.
What is Pelosi’s net worth by way of one example. Why coincidentally is her memory apparently going?
Cover for possible future indictment to plead what?
What if John M never had surgery and that was a cover for a future out if needed against prosecution?
Why did Soros transfer his bulk public funds to a NP? Note this doesn’t include massive slush funds that are pulled by several high ups.
Why did Soros’ son have several meetings with Canadian PM and how is that related to Clinton’s?
Why is MS13 a priority?
Could people pay such gangs to kill opponents and why / how to insulate against exposure?
The truth is mind blowing and cannot fully be exposed. These people are evil.
Operation Mockingbird.

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Anonymous ID: Eka5Om1K No.147175452 📁
Oct 29 2017 22:20:11 (EST)
Key:
Military Intelligence v FBI CIA NSA
No approval or congressional oversight
State Secrets upheld under SC
Who is the Commander and Chief of the military?
Under what article can the President impose MI take over investigations for the 3 letter agencies? What conditions must present itself? Why is this so VERY important? Who surrounds POTUS? They lost this very important power _ the one area of the govt not corrupt and directly serves POTUS.

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Anonymous ID: Eka5Om1K No.147181191 📁
Oct 29 2017 23:26:53 (EST)
Military Intelligence ref above is the absolute biggest inside drop this board will ever receive.
Now think about why Antifa plays right into the plan? Always ahead. Good guys are winning.

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Anonymous ID: grTMpzrL No.147446992 📁
Nov 1 2017 00:11:52 (EST)
Note MI has the same SAPs as NSA, CIA etc as designated post 9-11.
Why is this relevant?
Who can be held hostage and controlled?
CIA thinks its foreign offshore assets are strong enough to defend against the US executive (not accounting for military use on domestic soil).
Why does the Constitution explicitly grant this authority to the President and what is it to prevent?
They knew our agencies would grow in power so much so they could/can hold the executive hostage or engage with bad actors.
Trump nominated someone new to direct every agency but one. He controls the top.

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Anonymous ID: grTMpzrL No.147449624 📁
Nov 1 2017 00:41:54 (EST)
Think about it logically.
The only way is the military. Fully controlled. Save & spread (once 11.3 verifies as 1st marker).
Biggest advanced drop on Pol.

Was the election a marker?

Are the people who were displaced in a hostile takeover trying to take back what they lost?

It’s worth asking.

More historic drops will be on tomorrow’s daily if no MOABs are dropped.

In the meantime, I encourage everyone to reread the first 36 XVII drops and consider the information there against everything that has happened. Links to the scraping sites:

Q Alerts

QAnon

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Ahem.

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LUKE 1:26-38

26In the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God to a city of Galilee named Nazareth, 27to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin’s name was Mary. 28And he came to her and said, “Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with you!” 29But she was greatly troubled at the saying, and considered in her mind what sort of greeting this might be. 30And the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus. 32He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, 33and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end.” 34And Mary said to the angel, “How shall this be, since I have no husband?” 35And the angel said to her, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God. 36And behold, your kinswoman Elizabeth in her old age has also conceived a son; and this is the sixth month with her who was called barren. 37For with God nothing will be impossible.” 38And Mary said, “Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord; let it be to me according to your word.” And the angel departed from her.

As always, prayers for the fight against that which seeks to enslave us are welcome. Via con Dios.

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cthulhu

Whew!

It seems like weeks since your last post….but it’s only been a few days. What a kaleidoscope of perfidy!

Deplorable Patriot

Yes. Perfidy and malfeasance.

malfeasance
[ˌmalˈfēzəns]
NOUN
law
wrongdoing, especially by a public official.

wheatietoo

Did you know that ‘perfidy’ is listed as a War Crime?

Yep…it is.

Grandmaintexas

Nice. Seems like it’s going to a good day. 🙏

Cuppa Covfefe

It’s also a song (or perhaps the land that the song came from 😀 )…

scott467

“Why did Soros’ son have several meetings with Canadian PM and how is that related to Clinton’s?

Why is MS13 a priority?

Could people pay such gangs to kill opponents and why / how to insulate against exposure?

The truth is mind blowing and cannot fully be exposed.”

_____________

Well it better be fully exposed…

If it isn’t, then what’s the point… of any of it?

By keeping it secret, you will only be guaranteeing that the corruption will continue.

And you know it, full well.

jamcooker

You want war with Canada? Or would it be better to educate the Canadians in order to take care of that POS sparkle sox themselves?

rayzorback

War with….. canada?
Yes, I spelled it with a small “c”
Bwahahahaha.
Would be like war with iceland.

jamcooker

So, ask yourself what would happen then, knowing that China already has troops there and Canada would call in the UN troops?

Why do you think President Trump emphasizes being friendly with every body, even countries and people he may not like, but at the same time controls things economically? Economic war doesn’t waste our populace.

rayzorback

Sometimes….. REAL WAR … IS necessary. Not that I want it.

jamcooker

Being that the cabal is world wide, you want a world wide war? Our country needs time to heal from over 60 years of non stop war. President Trump is waging an economic war. Economics have always played a part in war, but he’s also waging a truthful information war in an effort to show the people the world over how they have been controlled and manipulated. We cannot be the world police, we cannot be rulers of other countries as that inevitably results in resentment.

rayzorback

In case you missed it!
(War) “NOT THAT I WANT IT”

The rest of your rant is preaching to the choir.
SMDH.

kinthenorthwest

From Italy…A friend gave to me on FB and can’t find it on you tube.
Seems like Italy is playing games too with the COVID. if what this man is saying is the truth Italy is screwed and i believe other countries will follow.
Britian is already rolling out the vaccine.
It this does not work just delete it.

https://www.facebook.com/messenger_media/?thread_id=100014181947221&attachment_id=416072032758301&message_id=mid.%24cAAAAA_a0ZQh8cfP4uV2QK6qkKW9t

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kinthenorthwest

Dang Tucker is still putting it out thereTucker Carlson On Video Of Chinese Professor Talking About Powerful Friends In US Helping China
https://youtu.be/UAfxyMSPOyI

Grandmaintexas

I have a love/hate relationship with Tucker.

jamcooker

I like the painting a lot – it reminds me of some of my Dad’s paintings.

I’ve also been looking at those early drops a little. There’s a lot to consider, multiple paths to a desired end. Some of those paths have the possibility of being pretty rough, some not so much. Bless you for an excellent post DP.

Deplorable Patriot

It’s amazing what you can find in American art, that’s for sure. So many talented people.

duchess01

2020Election #JoeBiden #ElectionResults
22 Explosive Election Fraud Allegations Revealed | Declassified | Gina Shakespeare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXf87YFEYsI

Sadie Slays

I want to comment on the art style known as “Alegria.” Even if you aren’t familiar with the name, I’m sure you’ve seen it before. It’s America’s version of Communist art, and as such, it tends to show up in cabal propaganda. For example:
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Note how nobody in this picture has a face. This is common in Alegria/Communist art. Just like how they’re obsessed with everyone covering their real life faces with masks, the cabal doesn’t even want faces depicted in their crappy art. I’m half-tempted to call it a weird manifestation of Sharia law (Sunni Muslims are forbidden from depicting all humans, not just Muhammad, in art), but no, I believe the real goal is dehumanization and demoralization. This art is intentionally ugly, low-quality, and meant to depict humans as deformed and faceless. There can’t be any beauty in the Great Reset because that might actually inspire people.  

This is an actual poster from Nazi Germany. See what I mean about how tyrants are obsessed with erasing faces?
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Here are some more real life examples as Alegria/Commie art:
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The best way to fight their psychological warfare is to make people aware of it in the first place. This pervasive art style is one of their weapons. 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great comment! Thanks for this. Art is almost automatically very subversive – I had not really thought about why this kind of art bothered me – well – now I know! THANKS!

Linda

What struck me about that first group is that none of them had a mouth. They want to take away our voice, along with our humanity. They see us as cattle and are doing everything possible to make it that way. These people are monsters.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

AMEN!

Sadie Slays

They see us as cattle

Yes, and that is why they are degenerating our language as well.

HERD immunity. Groups of humans aren’t “herds,” they’re “crowds.”

KIDS instead of children. Kids are young goats, not humans.

MALES instead of MAN or MEN. “Male” is generic term that can be used for any member of the animal kingdom, but “man” can only refer to humans. It’s a very subtle form of dehumanization.

kinthenorthwest

Not even sure they think that highly of us Sadie.

Sadie Slays

I’ve made a conscious effort to stop using the terms “bullshit” and “horseshit” because animal manure provides high-quality fertilizer for our life-sustaining crops. Equating the cabal’s evil crimes with such a useful substance is an insult to genuine bull and horse waste. They deserve to be called much worse.

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wheatietoo

KIDS instead of children. Kids are young goats, not humans.

Good point.

I am guilty of calling them ‘kids’…mainly because it is easy.

But when I catch myself, I use “younglings” instead.

Great post, Sadie, about the commie propaganda art.
Spot on!

kinthenorthwest

And I thought some of the Tampax commercials staring Amy Schumer were bad.First time I saw one, it was on a Hallmark channel, and i’m like what the crap.
Not only was i offended, but immediately thought how how are mothers going to handle questions from the child that saw the commercial.
Decided it was not something I really want to post, but the one I saw is titled
Let’s Talk About It | Time To Tampax With Amy Schumer if you want to view it.

Gail Combs

Best way to deal with that is to tell the manufacturer(s) you saw the commercial were repulsed by it and will take your business ELSE WHERE. *Also remind them that for ever complaint they hear, there are another 100 people who do not bother making a complaint, they just vote with their feet.

*That is from the personal care corporation I worked for. I dealt with written customer complaints and that is what I was told. Every letter received was taken very very seriously. I am not sure that is true today but the Goya tale shows we are NOT a minority.

mollypitcher5

Good catch Sadie.
For days my brothers and I have been smack talking the advertisements that are pure propaganda.
We all kept noticing and then somebody finally said something and the flood gates opened.
I’m going to be mad if they replace white Flo from progressive with black Flo like they did with Jake from State Farm.

cthulhu

…..and, then, there’s network programming (not news) that is pure propaganda.

The one that really hit me as being totally obvious was “Queer Eye for the Straight Guy”. Let’s normalize these perverts and make them friendly and helpful!

mollypitcher5

Yes! It’s in all the programming. Subtle sometimes and in your face other times.

There’s an ad for Ralph’s grocery store that has those weird little half cartoon/3d figures . It took me forever to figure it out. It’s sing songy but the gist is the daughter invited some gender weird dude for dinner and won rigid dumb dad over. Diversity and all that jazz… a grocery store ad!

Sadie Slays

Another one is that almost all couples in media now are depicted interracial black and white. Usually a black man with white woman, but very occasionally, a white man with black woman. They claim this is for “diversity,” but genuine diversity would feature interracial couples of all races. When was the last time you saw an advertisement with a black man and an Asian woman? Or a Hispanic man with a Muslim woman? They not only go out of their way to avoid depicting couples of the same race, but they specifically prefer a black/white combination even though true “diversity” would demand more variety. 

Grandmaintexas

The latest being the film Fatman, in which Mrs. Claus is a British black woman. Lovely individual but I’m tired of having our history rewritten every decade into whichever ‘ism’ is in vogue.

Cuppa Covfefe

Yep. Here, in “Mutti” Merde-Kuh’s Multikulti Moslem Melange, the word has come down from upon high (read: Merde-Kuh, aka Göbbels v2.0) that couples in ads (or perhaps real life?) shall be depicted as a Moslem man with a (submissive) white woman, or a white man with a black wife/girlfriend. The occasional gay male or female couple are smiled upon… White couples are few an far between; indeed mixed couples with assorted children are the norm here anymore.

All to engender (ha) Merde-Kuh’s, erm, Kuhdenhove-Calergi dream of a racially-blended society, neither white, nor black, but one (or more) of the thousands of shades of grey.

Thank GOD they haven’t made THAT into a movie.

Yet…

Funny thing too, is that for all the time, trouble, money, and effort Merde-Kuh’s minions make in producing ads and products to satisfy/appease the Moslems, the Mozzies NEVER buy them, Never.

So, I’ll go into LIDL two weeks after the latest 1001 Nights “Mediterranean” (read: Mozzie-friendly) foods hit the racks/freezers, and they’re pretty much all still there, untouched by their target market. The fact that the stores leave them on display is evidence that they are being told to have them out (in the name of assimilation, but really OUR assimilation to/with them, not the way that “integration” intends. “Weihnachtsbier” (Christmas Beer) is now Winter Beer (hmmm, I though the Mozzies weren’t allowed to drink), patterns and designs on tableware, linens, towels, and a host of other things are reminiscent of a Middle-Eastern bazaar, a harem, or MoHo’s latest conquest’s furnishings.

And the Moslems don’t buy that cr@p either. Nor do we. So the stores end up eating the costs (along with all the other disasters from this year) and we, the local, HOME COUNTRY customers, end up paying for it… 😡 😡 😡  😡  😡  😡  😡 

rayzorback

They call it “Programming” for a reason.
It came in with: “Tell-a-Vision”

GA/FL

The left have lost their humanity by loving the inhumane practices of abortion, eugenics, euthanasia, etc.

So they Dehumanize other humans and desire power over them – denying us faces, facial expressions, speech, thought, opinion, choices, rights and freedoms.

Deplorable Patriot

Great observation.

It goes along with something that’s been bothering me about home improvement shows and the way houses are staged for sale. Everything is a monochrome gray. It’s slick like a grain silo. There’s not much color at all. It’s all THE SAME, like heads without a face.

Sadie Slays

I’ve had the same suspicions about the constant push for gray. It’s social engineering just like their Pantone Color of the Year always coincides with political movements of the time. If wherever I move to next has gray walls, they’re getting painted over no matter what.

marymorse

It has a name, and it’s a movement…Post Humanism.

Grandmaintexas

Perfect.

Cuppa Covfefe

Dare I say, Anti-humanism?

Malevolent, Malthusian Misanthropy…

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Gudthots

Every time I see the cartoonish non-people from an online business, it’s a hit on their dependability that causes me to move along and look for a different provider of the services I am looking for.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good stuff!

We are in a very delicate and tricky time, and yet…..

WE HAVE VIDEO! AND MORE.

https://www.theqtree.com/2020/12/08/video-overload-lets-celebrate-and-test-out-the-new-embed-plugin/

rayzorback

Thank you Wolf for investing even MOAR $$$ to make this Tree Great again!

duchess01

Bob Spindell Speaks at March for Trump Bus Tour Stop in Madison, WI 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e03vI53HVJg

Valerie Curren

Prayers needed for someone on twitter

duchess01

One America News 12/07/20 | BREAKING NEWS TRUMP 9PM Dec 07, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffSfFICrcfc

Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

Here’s Sidney Powell on those 3 states

https://twitter.com/CRRJA5/status/1336141551467192320

Valerie Curren

Swamp thing Swallwell

Linda

I just posted the same story below! 🙂

Valerie Curren

Great minds!

rayzorback

Yes he was……FFFFfaaaarrrrrtttttttttt!

Valerie Curren

kettle pot

Valerie Curren

AZ election contested!

Linda

Valerie Curren
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

And they bought them up with OUR MONEY.

Valerie Curren

Yes! Well that means destroying our economy Should be slowing down their depredations on freedom, so there is that! grrr

cthulhu

That they “earned” by polluting the world and using slave labor to make crappy products the “quick and dirty” way.

Grandmaintexas

I’m sick and tired of having Made in China on damned near every product.

The big retailers will be next to suffer when China’s influence is flattened by American manufacturers.

Our President had a plan and he worked it beautifully. Bring manufacturing home!

holly

Yes! Especially pharmaceuticals.

mollypitcher5

Speaking of Kemp and China and stabbing PTrump in the back…it’s very strange that no details at all have come out about Harrison Deal’s wreck. Nothing.

Valerie Curren

I saw some stuff on Twitter & put it in one of my zillion tabs…so when I find it I’ll try to share it here too…

mollypitcher5

That would be great. I’ve checked now and then but can’t find much beyond the same statements out out the 1st day and plenty of slamming any conspiracy stories like it would be the most insane thing ever…hmmm not really

GA/FL

I’m pretty sure that flag was photoshopped in – I have seen other photos of that video without the chyneez flag.

Valerie Curren

good catch!

GA/FL

Now I’m not so sure! See above – !

Valerie Curren

Thanks for sharing these insights!

Valerie Curren

Can compare images from above to this one…

https://twitter.com/DonnaWR8/status/1336283900440702976

GA/FL

NOW I’M NOT SO SURE! This photo was taken at the Chyneeze ’embassy’ in Texas!

No doubt about it – Kemp is on Chynah’s Top Ten Tool – Bought and Paid For – Governors list!

Gail Combs

Those Chynese in Houston were busy little bees!

July 25, 2020 – CNN

The Chinese Consulate General in Houston has closed following Tuesday’s order to do so after US officials alleged it was part of a larger Chinese espionage effort using diplomatic facilities around the US, a State Department spokesperson confirmed to CNN late Friday.

US federal agents and local law enforcement entered the Chinese consulate compound in Houston earlier Friday in a series of black SUVs, trucks, two white vans and a locksmith’s van as a crowd of observers and news cameras observed from the edge of the diplomatic compound.

US officials speaking to reporters Friday said the consulate had been implicated in a fraud investigation at a Texas research institution and that Chinese consulate officials “were directly involved in communications with researchers and guided them on what information to collect.” …..

Linda

Looks like another lawsuit may go to the Supremes.

https://twitter.com/Rothbard1776/status/1336161953149038592?s=20

Valerie Curren

Flynn’s reading list

Valerie Curren

Camp GITMO! I hope people in the know weigh in on this!!!

https://twitter.com/3days3nights/status/1336183244144975872

Valerie Curren

His comment was meant to go here 🙂

https://secure.gravatar.com/avatar/75073fe0e21009c29521b418e12456f5?s=64&d=identicon&r=g
cthulhu

 Reply to  Valerie Curren
 December 8, 2020 02:03

Heh. Looks like the sat data got a little “optimised” before it went civilian.

http://www.theqtree.com/2020/12/08/dear-kag-20201208-open-thread/#comment-617996

eilert

SIDNEY POWELL ON TRUMP’S PATH TO VICTORYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFNCCnpejdQ&ab_channel=CubbiesEdits

Linda
mollypitcher5

That’s one of the better explanations I’ve read yet

Gail Combs

Yes,

Also having traitors in those positions lulled the Cabal into thinking they had the situation ‘under control’ and thus they could continue their treasonous ways. This allowed the gathering of the evidence that can now be used to take them all down.

Valerie Curren

Code Monkey continues to deliver the goods!

cthulhu

Heh. Looks like the sat data got a little “optimised” before it went civilian.

cthulhu

Oops — this was supposed to be to Valerie, upthread, regarding Gitmo. Ron brought us love letters to the Chinese from GA’s Gov Kemp.

Valerie Curren

I wondered if you meant that for the Sat info.

How can you tell that signature is Gov. Kemp?

cthulhu

It is a peculiar way to sign things, but the thread seems to indicate it’s him — the 83rd Gov of GA.

Of course, one of the things about this time is that you have to be able to hold a bunch of information in your head with various degrees of reliability. Some of the touchstones of reliability have been blown up — for example, “Republicans would never countenance election fraud.” On the other hand, various things that would ordinarily be discounted as conspiratorial fantasies have been proven to have occurred (intelligence services of the US government spied on the President they nominally report to).

But, y’know — Epstein didn’t kill himself; Seth Rich was murdered.

Valerie Curren

That’s a great cornucopia of perspective–thanks!

Valerie Curren

Code Monkey for the win, again!

eilert
eilert

Trump: “YOU’LL SEE A LOT OF BIG THINGS THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc50BWHL76s&ab_channel=CubbiesEdits

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bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎
Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

China is our Number One threat, not news here of course

Valerie Curren

A potential place to archive some material

https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1336190278630301698

Valerie Curren

Right before the Houston dumpster fire, presumably

Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren
eilert

eilert

Actually in the last graph Biden separates from the senate race quite early.
Does this show the Dominion vote manipulation?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

OMG, you pegged it! You nailed it! The linearity! That’s DOMINION!!!

LMAO! It’s right there in front of us!

I’m cleaning my “duty rifle” tomorrow. If people don’t start doing their duty and arresting people, it’s gonna be WAR, and I’m signing up with the highest general who says “We’re done with this crap!”

Valerie Curren

have we talked cannibals & pedovores lately?

https://twitter.com/CombatLVL/status/1335838943691026434

Valerie Curren

This looks important for deep dives on vaccines

https://twitter.com/CombatLVL/status/1336151456097964033

Valerie Curren

Where’s that gender-fluid mashup, looks like a young tranny Jesse Jackson, of Sullivan, Lori Lightfoot, & I forget which leftie loon when you need it! Unhinged much!

https://twitter.com/TruthandArtTV1/status/1336190081695039488

eilert

This delusional judge can pound sand.
He does not have the power to arrest !!

He will only expose more of his corruption and will resign.

Remember Q’s post:comment image

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Gail Combs

“Fraud On The Court By An Officer Of The Court”And “Disqualification Of Judges, State and Federal”

Under Federal law which is applicable to all states, the U.S. Supreme Court stated that if a court is “without authority, its judgments and orders are regarded as nullities. They are not voidable, but simply void; and form no bar to a recovery sought, even prior to a reversal in opposition to them. They constitute no justification; and all persons concerned in executing such judgments or sentences, are considered, in law, as trespassers.” Elliot v. Piersol, 1 Pet. 328, 340, 26 U.S. 328, 340 (1828) Elliot v. Piersol

“Second, a judge is not immune for actions, though judicial in nature, taken in the complete absence of all jurisdiction.[29] Mireles v. Waco 502 US 9, 116 L Ed 2d 9, 14, 112 S Ct 286 (US 1991)

“𝗙𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗱 𝗢𝗻 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁 𝗕𝘆 𝗔𝗻 𝗢𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲𝗿 𝗢𝗳 𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗖𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁”

𝗔𝗻𝗱 “𝗗𝗶𝘀𝗾𝘂𝗮𝗹𝗶𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗢𝗳 𝗝𝘂𝗱𝗴𝗲𝘀, 𝗦𝘁𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗮𝗻𝗱 𝗙𝗲𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗮𝗹”

Who is an “officer of the court’?

What is “fraud on the court”?

What effect does an act of “fraud upon the court” have upon the court proceeding?

What causes the “Disqualification of Judges”?

1. 𝗪𝗵𝗼 𝗶𝘀 𝗮𝗻 “𝗼𝗳𝗳𝗶𝗰𝗲𝗿 𝗼𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁”?

A judge is an officer of the court, as well as are all attorneys. A state judge is a state judicial officer, paid by the State to act impartially and lawfully. A federal judge is a federal judicial officer, paid by the federal government to act impartially and lawfully. State and federal attorneys fall into the same general category and must meet the same requirements. A judge is not the court. People v. Zajic, 88 Ill.App.3d 477, 410 N.E.2d 626 (1980).

2. 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗶𝘀 “𝗳𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗱 𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁”?

Whenever any officer of the court commits fraud during a proceeding in the court, he/she is engaged in “fraud upon the court”. In Bulloch v. United States, 763 F.2d 1115, 1121 (10th Cir. 1985), the court stated “Fraud upon the court is fraud which is directed to the judicial machinery itself and is not fraud between the parties or fraudulent documents, false statements or perjury. … It is where the court or a member is corrupted or influenced or influence is attempted or where the judge has not performed his judicial function — thus where the impartial functions of the court have been directly corrupted.”

“Fraud upon the court” has been defined by the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to “embrace that species of fraud which does, or attempts to, defile the court itself, or is a fraud perpetrated by officers of the court so that the judicial machinery can not perform in the usual manner its impartial task of adjudging cases that are presented for adjudication. “ Kenner v. C.I.R., 387 F.3d 689 (1968); 7 Moore’s Federal Practice, 2d ed., p. 512, ¶ 60.23. The 7th Circuit further stated “a decision produced by fraud upon the court is not in essence a decision at all, and never becomes final.”

3. 𝗪𝗵𝗮𝘁 𝗲𝗳𝗳𝗲𝗰𝘁 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀 𝗮𝗻 𝗮𝗰𝘁 𝗼𝗳 “𝗳𝗿𝗮𝘂𝗱 𝘂𝗽𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁” 𝗵𝗮𝘃𝗲 𝘂𝗽𝗼𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗼𝘂𝗿𝘁 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗰𝗲𝗲𝗱𝗶𝗻𝗴?

“Fraud upon the court” makes void the orders and judgments of that court….

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Now if we only had a judicial system that was not completely corrupt.

Valerie Curren

This is a great find Gail. Sounds similar to the “color of law” stuff shared about governmental overreach in the tyrannical orders of officials during the scamdemic…

eilert

Aviation Veteran Chuck Yeager, First to Break Sound Barrier, Dies at the Age of 97
Aviation Veteran Chuck Yeager, First to Break Sound Barrier, Dies at the Age of 97 – Sputnik International (sputniknews.com)

bflyjesusgrl 🍊 😎NUCLEAR MAGA😎

eilert

Texas Sues Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin at Supreme Court over Election Rules
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/texas-sues-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court-election-rules/

The State of Texas filed a lawsuit directly with the U.S. Supreme Court shortly before midnight on Monday challenging the election procedures in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin on the grounds that they violate the Constitution.
Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures. Additionally, Texas argues that there were differences in voting rules and procedures in different counties within the states, violating the Constitution’s Equal Protection Clause. Finally, Texas argues that there were “voting irregularities” in these states as a result of the above.

  • Texas is asking the Supreme Court to order the states to allow their legislatures to appoint their electors. The lawsuit says:
  • Certain officials in the Defendant States presented the pandemic as the justification for ignoring state laws regarding absentee and mail-in voting. The Defendant States flooded their citizenry with tens of millions of ballot applications and ballots in derogation of statutory controls as to how they are lawfully received, evaluated, and counted. Whether well intentioned or not, these unconstitutional acts had the same uniform effect—they made the 2020 election less secure in the Defendant States. Those changes are inconsistent with relevant state laws and were made by non-legislative entities, without any consent by the state legislatures. The acts of these officials thus directly violated the Constitution.
  • This case presents a question of law: Did the Defendant States violate the Electors Clause by taking non-legislative actions to change the election rules that would govern the appointment of presidential electors? These non-legislative changes to the Defendant States’ election laws facilitated the casting and counting of ballots in violation of state law, which, in turn, violated the Electors Clause of Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the U.S. Constitution. By these unlawful acts, the Defendant States have not only tainted the integrity of their own citizens’ vote, but their actions have also debased the votes of citizens in Plaintiff State and other States that remained loyal to the Constitution.

Texas approached the Supreme Court directly because Article III provides that it is the court of first impression on subjects where it has original jurisdiction, such as disputes between two or more states.

patfrederick

gotta LOVE Texas!!!

eilert

Efforts to contact State reps are starting to pay off.

eilert
eilert

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6214499244001#sp=show-clips

Trump’s Intelligence director John Ratcliffe says ‘we’ll see’ whether there is a ‘Biden administration’ as Republican senator says Trump already conceded ‘in effect’ by allowing transition to proceed==

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9023707/Trumps-DNI-John-Ratcliffe-says-Biden-administration.html

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy
  • Trump ‘in effect has conceded when he ordered’ said Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-La.)
  • Cassidy previously tweeted he voted for Trump but Biden won

Bunch of CRAP!!! WE CONCEDE NOTHING, RINO!!!

Gail Combs

WOW!

The AP declared Biden the winner and now the AP has declared that President Trump has conceded.

Gee, I did not know the country was an oligarchy run by the Associated Press.

…..

GOP Sen. Bill Cassidy said Sunday that President Donald Trump had effectively conceded by signing off on the official transition with President-elect Joe Biden. “The president in effect has conceded when he ordered the General Services Administration to begin the transition,” the Louisiana Republican said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Too bad Cassidy does not know how the government specifically the General Services Administration works.

GSA provides workplaces by constructing, managing, and preserving government buildings and by leasing and managing commercial real estate. GSA’s acquisition solutions offer private sector professional services, equipment, supplies, and IT to government organizations and the military. GSA also promotes management best practices and efficient government operations through the development of governmentwide policies.

https://www.gsa.gov/about-us

GSA’s Role in Presidential Transitions

The General Services Administration (GSA) Administrator does not pick the winner in the Presidential election. In accordance with the Presidential Transition Act of 1963 (PTA), as amended, and consistent with precedent established by the Clinton Administration in 2000, the GSA Administrator ascertains the apparent successful candidate once a winner is clear based on the process laid out in the Constitution. The Administrator’s ascertainment is done for the purposes of making additional services provided by the PTA available. Until an ascertainment is made, the statute allows for the Biden Transition Team to continue to receive the pre-elect services from the government (e.g., office space, computers, background investigations for security clearances). GSA has met all statutory requirements under the PTA for this election cycle and will continue to do so.

See our Presidential Transition Directory for additional information about GSA’s role in the Presidential transition.

https://www.gsa.gov/about-us/mission-and-background/gsas-role-in-presidential-transitions

𝗧𝗵𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗹𝘆 𝗱𝗼 𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗸 𝘄𝗲 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝗵𝗿𝗼𝗼𝗺s 𝗰𝗼𝗻𝘀𝗶𝗱𝗲𝗿𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗮𝗺𝗼𝘂𝗻𝘁 𝗼𝗳 𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗹 𝗦𝗰𝗵𝗶𝗳𝗳 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝘆 𝗸𝗲𝗲𝗽 𝘀𝗵𝗼𝘃𝗲𝗹𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗼𝗻 𝘂𝘀!

Valerie Curren

Given the PTA was done by Clinton before Bush v Gore I wonder what poison pills did they set up to take down legitimate constitutional presidencies…I don’t trust Anything the Clintons did!

eilert

eilert
eilert

SuitcaseofDoom.357
@ASimplePatriot
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Steve Gruber on Bannon War Room: A seven person team from ASOG (Allied Security Operations Group) which General Flynn helped put together, inspected Antrim County, Michigan Dominion Voting systems equipment. 

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trumpismine

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GA/FL

Two tweets by GatorNavy – US Amphibious Navy Corps Veteran

Posted December 7

SHOCK AND AWE… THE TRUTH WILL SHOCK THE WORLD.

https://twitter.com/AmphibiousNavy/status/1336122767838748673

Posted December 6 by GatorNavy – US Amphibious Navy Corps Veteran

Proof of fraud? We have it all.

https://twitter.com/AmphibiousNavy/status/1335755232031207425

Also December 6:

https://twitter.com/AmphibiousNavy/status/1335748995835187202

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Valerie Curren

Sam Adams, so much more than beer 🙂

GA/FL

Deplorable Patriot – Thank you for yet another wonderful post!

Love the painting….it really captures the rising or setting sun and the feeling of a cold snowy day. The composition is intriguing and inviting. We can see that the father has trusted his son to carry the axe and taught him how to properly carry it.

Love your Bible verses and choices of music too!

And that twitter thread by anonymous is powerful!

Merry Christmas!

Valerie Curren

Just in time for “safe” vaccine roll out

Deplorable Patriot

We don’t have a microwave in this house. I am the only one who does not miss one, but it’s amazing how you can live without one.

Valerie Curren

It’s amazing what you can learn to live without. Our hunters discover that every time they hit hunting camp w/ outhouses, wood burning stove heating, & hand pump for water. They Never want to come home once they adjust to shack style conditions!

Deplorable Patriot

I did an opera program in Italy almost 20 years ago. We had a two burner propane hot plate and no hot water for cooking. You get used to it.

Came home…two ovens and a natural gas range…luxuries….

Valerie Curren

I came back from just 3 weeks in Liberia & was so used to seeing men relieve themselves on the side of the road that in the terminal at JFK in NYC I saw a man in a suit from behind, he was standing below a departure/arrival sign w/ his hands in front of him, & I was outraged that someone was taking a pee right there in the terminal–he wasn’t just my “norms” had already shifted!

Oh & going back into American grocery stores was a major culture shock. What passed for chicken in Liberia we probably wouldn’t have purchased to feed a dog, it was literally skin & bones!

Valerie Curren

This looks important. I wonder if Stella of Stella’s place would be interested?

Valerie Curren

perspective

Valerie Curren
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. Folks are fed up to the point of DOING SOMETHING.

trumpismine

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patfrederick

LOL…he is nothing but meme fodder now

patfrederick

AWESOME!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I like the way WordPress links now embed.

For example, this old fave of mine which I just refurbished due to images disappearing from the internet.

The embeddings are more substantial in posts than in comments.

https://www.theqtree.com/2019/08/15/scammin-me/

trumpismine
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

With every TRUE POST which Twitter slanders with its little disputation notice, Twitter executives are one step closer to living in chains.

Gail Combs

ESPECIALLY when they hired Chinese Military personnel to do the censorship in the US of A.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

To me, this is just freaking TREASON. Bounce their rubble!

Valerie Curren
Cuppa Covfefe

The tweets after that one are good, too. Looks like the organization doing auditing in Georgia is ALSO connected to Dominion…

Hmmm. Let’s see if this works. Link is *https://twitter.com/NoBiden4USA/status/1336280777525522433

https://twitter.com/NoBiden4USA/status/1336280777525522433

Cuppa Covfefe

Ok, sorry, it worked, TWICE. Seems it parsed out the splat… sigh…

Valerie Curren

Nice, that was fun!

Gail Combs

The replies from the Left are hysterical. The guy the DemonRats hired is from HARVAAaaaard. You know, Cambridge MA where in the 1980s our CARD CARRYING COMMUNIST FRIEND had to register as a REPUBLICAN and be a poll challenger so the town could hold elections!

Would I TRUST someone from HARVAAaaaard about an election??? NO WAY IN HADES!

Valerie Curren

Stay in the fight–excellent!!!

Valerie Curren

historically & metaphorically beating plowshares into swords

Valerie Curren

The weapons of our warfare are not carnal but they are mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds!

Valerie Curren
anonymoushorse

Less than two weeks until the winter solstice: Dark to Light.

Dora

Lots of photos. The people look ridiculous.

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Big Crowds Flock To Rockefeller Center Christmas Tree

https://gothamist.com/arts-entertainment/big-crowds-flock-rockefeller-center-christmas-tree

Chris

I thought the Sak’s Music /lightshow video was awesome.!
Thank you for Sharing Dora.
Merry Christmas !

Valerie Curren
CMinTN

Funny how short that fence is!

Valerie Curren

Yes. I was at a zoo in Liberia & they had standard chain link fencing, though it went up higher, & you could stick your fingers through to be bitten, or attempt to touch the beasts. We had a sexually aroused tiny monkey climb the fence at face level to show us his junk–ugh!

wheatietoo

I know, CM…was thinking the same thing.

Those lions could easily jump over that little fence.
They must like being there, because they could leave at any time.

pgroup2

It’s where the food is.

Valerie Curren
Dora

The man living in the Vatican must think he has destroyed the Church. He hasn’t. It will survive.

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Vatican Makes Ecumenism an Obligation

VATICAN CITY (ChurchMilitant.com) – Engaging ecumenically with Protestant and Orthodox denominations will no longer be “optional” but “a duty and obligation” for bishops, the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity declared Friday.

The Vatican document, titled “The Bishop and Christian Unity: An Ecumenical Vademecum,” extends the bishop’s pastoral ministry “not just to the unity of his own church, but to the unity of all the baptized into Christ.”

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/vatican-makes-ecumenism-obligatory

Deplorable Patriot

[banging head]

The author at From Rome blog has had some really good posts in the past week on just what is going on. I get the idea that Bergoglio is the cabal’s end game for Christ’s Bride.

Tough. The Barque may take on water, but She ain’t gonna sink. Too many people have the truth on their side.

Cuppa Covfefe

Somewhere was an article and I think a vid where Satan Soros bragged about “installing” Francis, much the same as when Biden bragged about his “exploits” with Ukraine.

I worry about what’s happening to the College of Cardinals and all the rest of the hierarchy – if Francis “pollutes” them, it’ll be a situation similar to what VSGPDJT is facing with the TLAs.

Having said that, I wonder if “The Plan” also includes dealing with issues like Francis. And, of course, GOD will take care of everything in HIS time…

Deplorable Patriot

The installations, it seems, have been going on, or at least attempted, for about 120 years. Since Pope Leo XIII died.

I would imagine something is in the works, but what?????

And the College of Cardinals…it’s apparently been infiltrated for decades. It’s going to take the current crop out by whatever means and a real pope to replace them to fix that.

geneticallycatholic

Happy Immaculate Conception Feast day!

Deplorable Patriot

To you as well!

Teagan

Didn’t one of 17’s post say that the Vatican would be last?

Deplorable Patriot

Israel is last.

Teagan

Yes, now I recall it!

Concerned Virginian

Heck, getting a Pope “installed” began in the 16th Century when Lorenzo de’ Medici had his nephew Giulio installed as Pope Clement VII.

Dora

patfrederick

yesterday I finally had a chance to chat with my hairdresser–her son was sent home from school last month complaining about a sore throat. (Every year that I have known her, this son gets strep throat at the beginning of flu season.)

She took him to the doc and of course the kid got a covid test–it was positive. The whole family quarantined for 2 weeks and the son never had any other symptoms–no fever, headache, cough, nothing –just the usual sore throat.

However because of the positive test result, she had to provide a list of his classmates, and anyone he might have had unmasked contact with. My hairdresser provided the list, then called each person on that list and explained that someone would be calling and why.

As of yesterday, not a singe person received a phone call from anyone other than my hairdresser…

My hairdresser was never a mask person…till now. she had to have 2 negative tests before she could reopen the shop and now she swears that her wearing a mask to tend to her sick son (who didn’t require meds–not even a tylenol for pain) kept her from getting covid.

Ironically, she and her youngest child DID get a stomach flu during this time (which befuddles her because they had absolutely no contact with anyone for 2 weeks).

https://www.spoiledmaltese.com/attachments/cutehaircut-jpg.45000/

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Deplorable Patriot

Stunning, isn’t it?

patfrederick
duchess01
patfrederick

so how do i get the picture to show now?
it shows in the comment box, but when i post it, it’s just a link…

https://www.spoiledmaltese.com/attachments/cutehaircut-jpg

Deplorable Patriot

Let’s see if this works.
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patfrederick

now i see “comment image”
no way to actually get a picture to post?

patfrederick

i give up…what’s the trick now?

Deplorable Patriot

I would say save it as a jpeg and try to upload it, but other than header images, I haven’t gotten that to work yet.

patfrederick

thanks…

wheatietoo

Same here, DePat.

Glad to know I’m not the only one…but not glad that it is happening to you too.

The minute I paste an image link into a comment box, it immediately changes to that ‘comment image’ or some other gibberish.
Which doesn’t display the image.

patfrederick

when the new site opened, I had to open the image in a new window and just copy the image (previously I copied the image location)
now neither method works…

wheatietoo

Same here, Pat.

It was working for me at first.
Now, it’s not.

rayzorback

Evidently the site is having “problems”

holly

State Attorney General Dana Nessel (D-MI) had a public meltdown over the weekend after President Trump wished his supporters a “Merry Christmas.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/nolte-michigan-ag-dana-nessel-launches-2020s-war-christmas/

Dora

Deplorable Patriot

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patfrederick

what a bunch of hooey… “people of color” can opt out of mandatory flu shots because of historical “injustices”…
FTA
Students at Cornell University can use their status as a “person of color” to be exempt from the university’s flu vaccine requirement.
“Students who identify as Black, Indigenous, or as a Person of Color (BIPOC) may have personal concerns about fulfilling the Compact requirements based on historical injustices and current events,” explains Cornell Health’s vaccine requirement FAQ.
Students can send a private message to Cornell Health in order to request a non-medical or non-religious exemption for the immunization. For more information, the FAQ links to a page “especially for students of color,” which is meant to help minority students concerned about the flu vaccine requirement.

“We recognize that, due to longstanding systemic racism and health inequities in this country, individuals from some marginalized communities may have concerns about needing to agree to such requirements,” explains the page. “For example, historically, the bodies of Black, Indigenous, and other People of Color (BIPOC) have been mistreated, and used by people in power, sometimes for profit or medical gain.”
The university, therefore, considers it “understandable that the current Compact requirements may feel suspect or even exploitative to some BIPOC members of the Cornell community.”
Nevertheless, Cornell strongly encourages minority students to receive immunizations.

https://www.campusreform.org/article?id=16344

Deplorable Patriot

Yes, it’s all about reducing we white people in numbers.

holly

Colleges have ramped up their focus on POC. The Race Card is still in play.

Amherst College in Mass. has a position for a Staff Counselor – Racial Trauma Specialist.

The primary purpose of this position is to enhance success for students of color by providing clinical and educational services to help students address the mental health and developmental challenges they face in their personal and academic lives.

https://jobs.aapaonline.org/job/staff-counselor-racial-trauma-specialist/

ladypenquin

Once the election is settled, POTUS is going to start looking at pulling federal funding from them. Many will be shown to be in cahoots with Communist China – working against the United States – we’re no longer going to fund our own demise.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmm.

Sounds like Amherst is fomenting and rewarding institutional racism…. 😡 😡 😡
“Higher-Ed” hypocriscy…

ladypenquin

They’ll be sued out to oblivion. Anyone notice how that actually defeats the entire Fear Porn messaging of the Evil Virus. Essentially saying POC don’t have to get a vaccine – negates the seriousness of the virus.

I wonder if anyone has informed these so-called special people that they actually might be more predisposed to the virus and its complications… they actually fall into the higher risk category – so are the colleges going to kill of their minority students?

patfrederick

this is actually about the “flu shot” right now–the covid vaccine will be next–so they set the precedent with THIS one…

holly

Good point. Early on it was being reported that blacks were more seriously affected by covid than whites.

Valerie Curren

Michigan has been beating that CV racial disparity horse really hard, with a task force or something. I’m so sick of the lies & blatant propaganda spewing from Lansing that I mostly turn off any reports so don’t know the details. Loosely makes me think of that aka BHO crap that lead to school shootings because people of color were disproportionately in prison (& that was always due to skin color & not behavior!) so they had to stop the school to prison pipeline–whatever. Commies gotta be commies & shills!

mollypitcher5

But wait a minute..didn’t they hype that black people are at high risk and they have more complications than anyone else? They get a pass???

patfrederick

this is the mandatory flu shot–they will get to the mandatory covid vaccine in due time i believe

Deplorable Patriot

I’d say the American people are waking up. In fact some are on their third cup of java.

patfrederick

bwahahahaha
“Sure I’ll take the vaccine. Just mail it to me.”

PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Teagan

“Just mail it”….couldn’t be more perfect….tweet of the day!!

patfrederick

IKR???

Gail Combs

Just send the vial. We already have a large stack of syringes and needles…..

And did you say I should give this to my kids?
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piper567

Gail, yours?
Precious babies.

Deplorable Patriot

VITAL, MUST WATCH

holly

There was a post here a few days ago saying it’s not just about China but the Communists who are using China to achieve their goals. Something along those lines. It was a lightbulb moment for me because maybe it’s China but not really “China”. Or maybe I just need another cup of coffee. 🤔

Deplorable Patriot

On some one of the boards, I came across indicators that there are wealthy Chinese who are not communists helping out behind the scenes. It’s like what happened in various other countries where there was the communist party and then the regular people who did what they had to to survive.

wheatietoo

I think Communism flowed from the Soviet Union down into China.

The USSR was formed in 1922.

China became communist in 1949…but the communist revolution had been going on since about 1946.

So there were friendly ties between the ChiComs and the Soviets.

Nixon hoped that if the US could develop friendly trade with China, it would drive a wedge between those two communist countries.

Well that hasn’t turned out well.

And the Soviet Union fell apart as a result of Not having trade with the world.

patfrederick

NY is no Texas…a bill was proposed in NY to make vaccine MANDATORY for all NYers.
FTA
New York State Assembly introduced a bill that will require New Yorkers to get a COVID-19 vaccine, if it is passed. Goodbye body autonomy.
According to News 12, public health officials will have the power to determine if state residents are developing sufficient immunity, and it not, they would mandate vaccinations….which is an extreme over reach and a violation of our personal freedoms.

The bill was proposed on December 4 by Assemblymember Linda Rosenthal. It’s being evaluated by the Committee on Health and may amend the public health law.
The bill states that once a coronavirus vaccine is approved by the Food and Drug Administration and the New York State Clinical Advisory Task Force for safety and effectiveness, the distribution would be required.
If public health officials decide, they can make these vaccinations mandatory unless someone has proof of a medical exemption.
A representative from the Informed Consent Action Network, a nonprofit that is critical of vaccines, says the idea of mandatory vaccinations would be troubling for many.
The bill still needs to pass the New York State Senate and Assembly before it is delivered to Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s office to sign or veto.

If states start trying to mandate vaccines, I think they will fight a massive pushback. People have a right to choose what they do and do not put into their bodies. ESPECIALLY when it comes to an RNA vaccine, which literally alters DNA.

https://dailypatriotreport.com/new-york-proposes-bill-for-mandatory-covid-19-vaccine/

holly

I am trying to convince my young-adult aged children to move out of NY. This may be the last push they need to go. Appreciate the article pat. Will send it to them.

patfrederick

we live so close to the border–and hubby works in NY (working from home tho for now). he has had concerns about NY making a vaccine mandatory for a while.
occasionally he will go to the office for whatever reason–will HE have to get a vaccine to work there?
scary what the little prick dictators think they can do…
looking forward to the day they are shot from cannons or something equally nasty…
gees I need more coffee…sorry!

holly

Completely understand. I no longer watch the Albany Andy Show for health reasons. I am stuck here for a while but I can at least save my kids from him. I am plotting for my escape too. It will only get worse here.

patfrederick

agreed!!

Gail Combs

My hope is that Gov Cuomo  and state Health Commissioner Howard Zucker are indicted as MASS MURDERERS!

New York COVID-19 Fatality Data: Nursing Homes & Adult Care Facilities
I totaled them up and there were 𝟲𝟵𝟬𝟴 𝗱𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗵𝘀 from COVID as of 11/23/2020

Valerie Curren

You made me think of my old roommate from PA. She’s from a small town in Amish country, Wellsboro, & not far from Hershey, PA & Elmira, NY. At her wedding her husband had a cannon shot off, which my husband Loved. They shot off Long Underwear!

patfrederick

Wellsboro, the home of the PA Grand Canyon, is a quaint town!
the first weekend in December, they usually (not this year I’m guessing) have a Dickens weekend–townies dress as Dicken characters…the visitors are encouraged to join in enacting scenes from a Christmas Carol–there are food vendors, craft vendors–it’s a HUGE deal…sigh…

Valerie Curren

That sounds wonderful. Is it somewhat near you? I forgot about the PA Grand Canyon but she did mention it when I visited in our college days.

patfrederick

like everything else–about 30 minutes away.
they have a diner–an old train car–several antique stores, old fashioned gas lamps lighting the streets, lots of lovely old houses…and the best candy store ever…LOL…

Valerie Curren

Nice! I just remember that my friend’s house number was one digit! That cracked me up because our address had 5 digits. If I ever get back there I’ll have to look for the candy store 😉

patfrederick

it’s om a side street and makes the best fudge!!!

Valerie Curren

Sweet 🙂

Deplorable Patriot

“Troubling” is too wimpish a word.

Cuppa Covfefe

Hmmmm.

Whatever happened (in that rabidly liberal enclave of New York, no less) to
“My Body, My Choice” ?????

Oh, just a special case of situational ethics…
Or, rather, a consistent application of DEMONRAT evil hypocrisy…

patfrederick

right!
abortion = my body my choice
masks? = not your choice
vaccine? = not your choice