Dear KAG: 20220810 Open Thread

Headlines:

Okay, so, Depat had a big day and there’s not much in the hopper. Enjoy!

Amazon Buys Roomba Company, Will Now Map Inside of Your House

CBS News Censors Its Own Documentary Exposing How 70% of US Funding of Ukraine is Wasted

Minority rules: Scientists discover tipping point for the spread of ideas

Republicans, after a shocked silence, speak out against the Mar-a-Lago raid

Tweets!

MEMES!

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Not today.

Have a good day y’all.

(I don’t remember who brought this to a daily in the comments, but thanks.)

And, of course, the obligatory George Carlin:

Per the Boss:

This came on the radio today. It is movie theme song day.

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6The point is this: he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7Each one must do as he has made up his mind, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8And God is able to provide you with every blessing in abundance, so that you may always have enough of everything and may provide in abundance for every good work. 9As it is written, “He scatters abroad, he gives to the poor; his righteousness endures for ever.” 10He who supplies seed to the sower and bread for food will supply and multiply your resources and increase the harvest of your righteousness.

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It is quite clear, as per Wolf’s message from July, that we are under spiritual attack. Building up a robust arsenal of prayer and discipline is a must in fighting the enemy and his minions.

In that spirit, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel from Tuesday’s threads, and the Breastplate of St. Patrick, not to mention the Litany of Humility are favorites recommended by exorcists in spiritual warfare.

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Valerie Curren

Lots of “conspiracies” in this one 😉

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https://gab.com/Stephen_Preston/posts/108799884599786182

Valerie Curren

Seen on Gab…possible “vax” genocide history…no idea if this is “true” & it seems there’s no way to really know if the only deaths were ones who took a “vax”…purely fyi…

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@a No Andrew, our government has always killed enmass. Our history is a big fat lie. We have only been around for maybe 160 years.
Go to: There is No Place Like Home – and watch Shelly’s –
Question The Narrative videos. Shelly is a Christian, and she home schools.
In 1918 the government gave the soldiers going home from war a vaccination that caused them to get very sick with flu like symptoms. These soldiers went home all over the USA and started dying. The government then released the vaccination for the said Spanish flu that the soldiers where dying from and over 20 million people rolled up their sleeve and took the deadly vaccination, and died. No one else died from the flu who did not take the vaccination. Dr. Gates took the VAER’S report. He studied the soldiers at home, how long it took for the people to become fearful of the deadly Spanish flu from all the fear mongering in the newspapers, and how the people who took the Spanish vaccination, died. https://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/vaccines/vaccinations_cond

https://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/vaccines/vaccinations_condemned_McBean.htm

https://gab.com/2021Jewell/posts/108799913065692502

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m willing to consider this theory now. After what I know they did now, this becomes possible.

Valerie Curren

It’s incredibly sick but given everything we can See now we have to re-examine “history”…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The Depop Shot is such a wake-up call. It is so easy to see what Fauci and his right arm Walensky are up to now.

MURDERERS. OF CHILDREN.

Valerie Curren

Absolutely…murderers of anyone & everyone except the “elite”–evil unleashed!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

But with good intentions!

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Valerie Curren

Only as Fake Cover…their ugly goes straight to the bone!

TheseTruths

That makes me wish I had known the situation with relatives who were alive at that time. To my knowledge, none of them died early under unusual circumstances, and I doubt they got vaccinated. I wonder if the lack of communication into rural areas might have made a difference.

mollypitcher5

LOL…my thoughts exactly about the rural areas. I know it hit hard in Memphis, my grandmother talked about it. My grandfather was in the war but she never mentioned anything about a vaccine that I remember

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

This is the first I’ve EVER heard about there being a vaccine.

I’m very suspicious of this one.

TheseTruths

I believe this statement from that account is absolutely false:

No one else died from the flu who did not take the vaccination. 

A search yielded this:

Many vaccines were developed and used during the 1918–1919 pandemic. The medical literature was full of contradictory claims of their success; there was apparently no consensus on how to judge the reported results of these vaccine trials. The result of the vaccine controversy was both a further waning of confidence in Pfeiffer’s bacillus as the agent of influenza and the emergence of an early set of criteria for valid vaccine trials.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2862332/

I don’t know how truthful this Reuters story is, but FWIW:
False claim: the 1918 influenza pandemic was caused by vaccineshttps://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-vaccines-caused-1918-influe/false-claim-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-was-caused-by-vaccines-idUSKBN21J6X2

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I’m glad it was brought here. I didn’t realize how strong the possibility of some kind of ADE was.

Historically, that time would have been absolutely ripe for “bad” vaccines that were stumbling into all kinds of errors. The kind of cover-up we’re seeing now makes me very suspicious that it extends to the past – “to prevent vaccine hesitancy”.

I would rather see the crap posted and debunked here, than “confirmed elsewhere first” by anybody.

For example, the ZIM move. I’ve never seen anything so incredibly indicting, covered up with so many layers of CRAP antisemitism defense. And I fell for all those layers, hook, line and sinker.

The world is much nastier than we thought.

Valerie Curren

I never claim to have direct knowledge of things I share, unless I’m recounting things I’ve personally witnessed. Not being the best researcher, nor an “anon”, I don’t trust my skills to consistently track down the veracity of info. I did note that claiming that Only the “vax’d” died of the 1918 flu seemed unlikely to be factually accurate…

When I drop things that TT, or others, might consider to be (potential) garbage, I hearken back to your “red meat for da wolf” comment shared previously…

Going forward, I’ll take cues from you on what is “acceptable” to share here!

I’m afraid I’ve been on a bit of a roll today, pulling stuff from Gab & luxuriating in the Library Computer that works Way faster than what I have at home  😊 

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We’re finding a lot of DIAMONDS in CRAP here – I say the STENCH is worth it!

Valerie Curren

Fart spray incoming!

Gail Combs

  :wpds_eek:   :wpds_chuckle:   :wpds_lol: 

Valerie Curren

LOL!

kalbokalbs

MeThinks if ya see value, post it. Folks can sort it out or scroll on.

Some things I dig into. Some I accept and believable. Others, scroll on.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yes! And sometimes I scroll on just because “I’ve gotta THINK about this one!”

Valerie Curren

Yep…buyer beware even in the Q-Tree!

kalbokalbs

🙂

Gail Combs

Valerie,

YOU NEED TO POST IT!

WE NEED to look at it and vet it.

TheseTruths

To be clear, I’m not advocating that people not post things.

I’m sometimes surprised at how few people question things, like this statement —

No one else died from the flu who did not take the vaccination [in 1918]. 

— when that’s probably the first that many of us have even heard about a 1918 flu vax, let alone that it could have been killing people when the flu wasn’t.

If true, it would be the vaccine bombshell of a century, but it has not been vetted.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And neither was I, and I raised the same questions.

I share your wish that people would vet before posting (but not at the cost of not posting at all), but some of us are not as good at it as others of us.

I’d also like to see such things prefaced with “I saw this and I have no idea if this is credible.”

Valerie Curren

Thanks Gail…I’ll keep doing my part 🙂

TheseTruths

I hear what you’re saying. I’m going to have to ignore some of this stuff because the research is time-consuming and becomes exhausting.

My wish is that the the bringers-of-the-info would do their own research first, and present their results with links. The links above lead to a book by one person who does not provide links to substantiate their claims.

If we start believing some of these things, we are rewriting history, ignoring truth, and getting in the way of science.

I will let you wade through the “stench.” ☺️

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LOL!

Simply saying that you think something it’s likely wrong is fine! That’s how I always START the investigation. Most of the time, things stay that way.

RF121

We have only been around for maybe 160 years.

If you go digging through YouTube you will find lots on this topic of a Great Reset. Some of it makes you go hmm.

TheseTruths

Since the Civil War? I haven’t argued one way or the other about a Great Reset and have read theories about it.

RF121

Actually the theories go into several resets over the centuries. When I want to forget about all the crap going on today, I watch some videos on that.

Brave and Free

If you stop and think a lot of theses evil politicians have been in office for decades. Makes sense they don’t want any past history to expose them for any part they may have had in this evil.

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WSB

Wolf, I have just emailed my virologist gals! Can’t wait for the weigh-in about the Spanish Flu!!!! Both are like 6-week old puppies with one bone on a subject like this! will try to report When I hear back.

Sorry to be so spotty with posting. I read here A LOT! TY for all you all do on this beautiful site. I pass along all info! It is getting OUT!!!!

I have been through much lately, and I am also getting used to a new ‘toaster’. My last computer went kaput during my absence from my office. ALWAYS HAVE AN EXTERNAL HARD DRIVE. 🖥

Dad passed way from being killed by the medical industry in late June, IMHO. Long story. Still not sure what happened fully. Everything seemed to go terribly at once, and it is not over yet. My mother is my current concern.

Cannot wait for better days!

Bless you, Wolf. I am indeed amazed that I can now post!!!!

Keep the faith!

gil00

You take care of yourself and im sure youre doing what you can w your mom. Im sorry that your dad died. Its much easier oftentimes to just read. Glad youre around!

WSB

TY, giloo!!!

gil00

😘

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Great to see you here!

WSB

TY, Wolf!

TheseTruths

I’m very sorry about your father, and hope your mother and you will be all right. 🙏

I did some digging on the Spanish flu comment and will post it on tomorrow’s daily in a little while.

WSB

Excellent! And, thank you fur your condolences. It has been a tough road.

Any info to help Wolf will be gold!

TheseTruths

I’m going to post what I’ve found out on tomorrow’s daily, in a little while.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Good!

pgroup2

With all due respect (of which you deserve a lot), one of the planks of this blog is that we avoid self-censorship. Instead we put stuff on here and subject it to critique by assorted commenters.

TheseTruths

Thank you. My opinion is that “drive-by posting” without any self-censorship muddies the waters. I could have posted a million memes and articles that looked suspicious and turned out to be complete garbage, all with the disclaimer that “I’m not sure if this is true but I saw it on GETTR; now can everyone sort it out for me?” IMO — for me — that would be irresponsible. It wastes people’s time, for one thing.

I tend to look into things before posting them, at least a little. Then, if I’m not sure but I think it could be significant, I think it’s appropriate to show whatever research I’ve done, or to share the difficulties I had in the process, and get others’ opinions. Maybe there’s not always time to do that; at the same time, it’s unlikely that there’s never time to do that.

There’s more I could say but I will stop there. 😊

WSB

So heartfelt.

I try to always, like you, find two or more sites to back up my ‘finds’. All is well since there are so many wonderful peeps here to double check!

Gail Combs

I remember reading a story that they found shepherds out in the mountains DEAD from the Spanish Flu. My Grand father died of it BTW.

…Filthy and frightened, the three young children staggered up the beach. Their tiny frames were feverish and behind them, on board the small sailboat they had drifted ashore upon, lay the bodies of two dead men.

The group had been attempting to flee an outbreak of disease that had devastated their small, isolated village further upstream from the spot where they run aground on the Naknek River in Bristol Bay, Alaska….

Reports from the men on the expedition described the village of Savonoski as being in a “deplorable state” and “wretched”. Nearly all of the adult population in the small cluster of around 10 houses were dead. Those still alive were gravely ill and told how their relatives had dropped even as they walked around. The team from the cannery buried the dead in a mass grave and brought those still alive back to the hospital in Naknek.

It was a picture that was repeated in villages all across Alaska. In just a few days nearly 200 people would die from the disease in the Bristol Bay area, leaving dozens of children orphaned….

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181023-the-places-that-escaped-the-spanish-flu

TradeBait2

My paternal grandfather’s first wife died of it as well, not long after he returned from military service in WW I.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

That’s a great article, and it’s filled with scientific validation of (1) Trump’s travel bans, and (2) evolution of the virus to more benign forms.

Valerie Curren

Good thinking.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

This really looks like a case of strong ADE.

I’ve archived the page:

https://archive.ph/PgTEx

Valerie Curren

Thx WM–you rock!

marymorse

(Since people are talking about terroristic threats…)

April 2014 Hunter and his partners invest in Metabiota. Contracts start paying in June for a subcontract with EcoHealth in Wuhan, PREDICTing pandemics.

In October 2018, a year before the pandemic, Hunter is in Boston with an Eric Lander event on his calendar.

In September 2018, James Biden is acting as a principal of Americore Health, negotiating purchase of a company that provides health care services to rural hospitals and nursing homes.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/tennessee/2019/08/02/tennessee-businessman-says-joe-biden-brother-conned-him-michael-frey/1865866001/to

The story includes terroristic threats and an FBI probe:

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2019/12/04/joe-biden-brother-jim-biden-fraud-case-fbi-probing-terroristic-threat-tennessee/4349068002/

…”The FBI is investigating the delivery — via the mail — of a terroristic threat to a McMinnville couple who are suing the brother of Democratic presidential hopeful Joe Biden, Knox News has confirmed.

The threat came in August in a plain white envelope to the McMinnville home of Michael Frey and his wife, Natalie Frey, just days after Knox News publicly revealed their claims of fraud and deception against Biden’s brother, Jim Biden, in a federal lawsuit.

Inside the envelope was what appeared to be blood-stained currency from a Middle Eastern country commonly known as a haven for terror groups and a “torture ticket” — a voucher for the infliction of torture.”…

(This was reported to the FBI in Tennessee. Did they investigate, or was it rolled up to Delaware?)

The FBI raided the home and business of Americore’s CEO, Grant White, and hedge funder Michael Lewitt promptly thru him under the bus.

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/legal-regulatory-issues/americore-health-ceo-under-criminal-investigation.html

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/legal-regulatory-issues/fbi-raids-pennsylvania-hospital.html

Crazy story.

Even a comment from Rachel Levine on the closing of Elmwood Hospital, part of Americore’s network:

…”While it is disappointing that hospital ownership made this choice, the department is committed to ensuring that hospital facilities can provide safe care to patients,” Rachel Levine, MD, the Pennsylvania secretary of health, told the Gazette. “We will be continuing to monitor the facility in the upcoming days and weeks. It is essential that people are aware that if they need medical treatment, they will need to go to another hospital in the area.”

In late November, state health officials ordered the hospital to suspend inpatient and emergency services due to “severe violations of state health law.”…

(And Jim Biden’s handing out Americore business cards…)

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mollypitcher5

Why yes he does resemble the flashing squirrel ! (only not as cute )

Funny that they would replace him since we’ve been visually assaulted by penis’ and giant dildos for months now.

scott467

Ugh… my eyes! 🤣

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

We have a bake-off squirrel close to the abode. He flashes “deez nuts” all the time, and puts on the occasional porn show with the girls. LOL!

Valerie Curren

For some reason this makes me wonder about that Canadian couple w/ the IVM patent that was murdered pre-scamdemic…& Kary Mullis, PCR inventor, also conveniently dead just before Fauxi took center stage…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

There’s a lot of criminality going on.

Valerie Curren

Yes. I wonder if Political Moonshine or someone might do a deep dive on the timing/timeline of the suspicious deaths related to the Covid Crimes. So many people have been taken out literally or through disinfo/MK? (Brian Ardis? Dr. Tenpenny etc.)…How do the overlords have the time & resources for all the fronts in this endless war?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

In answer to your question…. MONEY.

A million bucks buys everything from tweets to oppo to gangstalking.

Valerie Curren

& aren’t they somehow using Our money against us? I read something along those lines about Soros, iirc 🙁

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Yup. They ALWAYS use OUR MONEY against us – if they can!

Valerie Curren

Bas-Turds!

Valerie Curren

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TheseTruths

Love it! 🥩🍖

Valerie Curren

🙂

Valerie Curren

I really wanted to make a bacon comment but don’t have Cuppa’s skillz!

pgroup2

He gets it by eating extra bacon. Try it yourself.  😆 

Valerie Curren

Yes!!!

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Are you sure about that?

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Valerie Curren

Love it–Far Side rocks!!!

Valerie Curren
Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!

UNIPARTY PLUS TOADIES.

Valerie Curren

!!!

scott467

The problem is that society pretends like anarchy is the great danger, but in reality, all government everywhere, moves only one direction, inexorably, accumulating power unto itself, which invariably leads to tyranny.

History is littered with examples.

I am aware of no example of the opposite happening, anywhere in the world, that could be described as “Maximum Personal Freedom”.

Valerie Curren

For some reason the insanity of the Walking Dead comes to mind!

gil00

Then a war or two or three and their “reset” happens. And they divvy up the loot.

Valerie Curren

Hope this hasn’t already been shared…sorry for any overlap…

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Trump Confirms Attendance at NY Probe He Dubbed ‘Greatest Witch Hunt in History’
The former President confirmed on social media he will give deposition in the New York Attorney General’s investigation into alleged business malpractice on Wednesday – as he slammed investigator Letitia James as ‘racist’.
Allegations of misleading lenders and tax authorities on top of misstating the value of key assets come amid FBI agents raiding his private property.
James claims Trump over-valued assets to impress lenders or cut tax obligations – something which he vehemently denies – “There is no case!” he stated in February – saying that using best values in the real estate industry is commonplace.

https://gab.com/RT/posts/108798096199034473

& from the comments!

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Millions of us are praying for our rightful President, Donald J. Trump. 

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Loved

https://gab.com/kowhite1958/posts/108799645171422220

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

These people are evil, and I’m starting to wish them bad ends.

This is an enemy that is hard – almost impossible – to love.

Valerie Curren

Loving with the love of the Lord doesn’t necessarily negate consequences. It would be amazing to have some people “deep in the enemy’s council” to get “saved” & come clean though!!!

TradeBait2

The odds of that happening are almost as great as it was for Pharaoh or Pontius Pilate. Once one becomes a member of Satan’s minions, it becomes very difficult to cut ties and repent. Sort of Hotel Californiaish.

It can be done, but they have to be willing to die to their sins, which means they may physically die when they get out.

Valerie Curren

Bernard Nathanson, long time abortionist, & Abby something, longtime abortion supporter or clinic manager, I believe, come to mind…& that banker to the elites that was exposing child sacrifices, iirc…So it Can Happen, but rarely

phoenixrising

Something to chew on… I think this is what is happening to the US … the Cabal is in final stage of doing to our country… what they have done (through the US) to other countries, which we now label “third world” … read JJ Sefton’s Morning Report today. He believes our country has already “fallen” … and I agree … and I agree with Hudson’s premise that “Financial Capitalism” (which some have been labeling “Crony Capitalism”) is the culprit. /phoenix

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” … Well, most people think of all kinds of capitalism as being the same and the assumption is that industrial capitalism of the nineteenth century somehow was always financialized because there were always banks but financial capitalism as you just pointed out is a political system and as a political system it’s very different from the industrial capitalism dynamic. In industrial capitalism, the whole aim or the hope of the industrial capitalists in the late nineteenth century, especially in Germany and central Europe was that banking would no longer be just usury, it wouldn’t be just consumer lending to exploit labor, and it wouldn’t be lending to the government somehow.

The financial system would recycle the economy savings and money creation and credit into industrial production and would finance the means of production to make that productive instead of predatory and parasitic as it became and that seemed to be the way that industrial capitalism was evolving up until World War I. Everything changed after that all of a sudden you had the financial system take over as a result of the crisis caused in the 1920s by the German reparations debt that couldn’t be paid and the inter-ally debt that was insisted upon to repay the United States for the arms that have supplied Europe for a century into World War I. Well, the result was a huge depression.

The allies said, well, we didn’t expect to actually have to pay the United States. If we have to pay the United States, then we have to charge reparations on Germany and for a decade there was a debate between John Maynard Keynes and Harold Moulton and others saying that these debts can’t be paid. How are you going to handle a situation where the debts can’t be paid?

The finance capitalists then were the basically the ancestors of today’s neoliberals and they said any amount of debt can be paid by any country if it just lowers the living standards and squeezes labor enough and that’s what basically the philosophy of the IMF ever since world war II when third world countries can’t pay the debt, the IMF comes in with an austerity program and say you have to lower wages, you have to break up labor unions, if necessary you have to have a democracy, and you can’t have a democracy unless you’re willing to assassinate and arrest the labor leaders and the advocates of land redistribution because a democracy means basically rule by the financial sector centered in the united states. And so finance capitalism ever since WWI and especially WWII and especially since 1980 is the nationalistic doctrine of American banks and the American one percent, and the American financial sector that is sort of merged into a symbiotic unit with the finance insurance and real estate (FIRE).

In other words, finance capitalism instead of trying to promote overall economic growth for the 99 percent, instead of financing the industrialization of an economy with rising productivity and rising living standards, is now cannibalizing the industrial sector, cannibalizing the corporate sector. As you’re seeing in the U.S., finance capitalism is the economic doctrine of deindustrialization that has occurred in America in England and is now occurring in Europe.

Well, the problem is how do you survive if you’re not industrializing, if you’re not producing your own means of subsistence and how are you going to get this from other countries? Well, the answer is you don’t go to war with them like countries used to go to war with each other to grab their money and their land, you use finance as the new means of war so finance capitalism is the tactic of economic warfare by the United States against Europe and the global south to sort of draw all of the economic surplus of these countries in the form of debt service and the debt service is supplied by basically economic rent seeking from land rent, natural resource rent, and just plain interest charges on economy. So, none of these are really the result of industrial profits that are made by employing labor and uh selling its products at a markup.

Finance capitalism is not based on surplus value like industrial capitalism was. In fact, it destroys industry and in this cannibalizing of industrial capital, it basically dries out the economy and makes it unable to break even or even to function and in the United States today, for instance, if you look at the balance sheets of corporate revenue much of it is spent on stock buybacks. You buy back your own stock or dividend payouts. Only eight percent of corporate earnings are spent on new capital investment research and development: factories, machinery, and means of production to employ labor.

How did General Electric (GE) go broke? Basically, Jack Welch said let’s use our income not to continue to invest in making more electronic goods and services and appliances, let’s use it to buy our own stock that’ll push up our stock and essentially, we’ll just sell off our divisions and we’ll use the money of selling off our washing machine companies and stoves and sell it off and we’ll just pay it to the stockholders. That’ll push it up and by the way his salary was based on how much he could push up the stock of GE and he was paid in the form of stock options. Well, all of this is now the normal corporate behavior in the United States and corporations are no longer led by industrial engineers as they were a few centuries ago in the nineteenth and twentieth century.

They’re led by financial engineers of the chief financial officer and the ideal of these corporations is to make money financially not by industrial investment….. so on the narrow microeconomic level finance capitalism is a way of basically selling out a company and giving the proceeds to the stockholders and the bondholders but as a political system, because it is so destructive of the economy as you’ve seen in the United States and you’ve seen in Britain through de-industrializing it, it becomes belligerent in an attempt to make other countries just as equally paralyzed by making these countries pay tribute to the U.S. and England and the financialized economies by means of financial engineering, by means of debt service, by means of selling their mineral resources, their public utilities, their land, their roads all to foreign investors–basically to who borrows the money that’s just simply created in the U.S. and to save all of their money in their central bank reserves in the forms of loans to the U.S. treasury holding treasury bonds which is how the international monetary system worked until just a few months ago when everything changed.

So if you’re England and America right now you can look at President Biden’s speeches and he said well, China is our number one enemy because it’s competing unfairly. China is actually subsidizing industrial development by having its own infrastructure. It gives free education instead of privatizing education and making its labor pay for it. It has public health instead of privatizing social medicine like we do in the United States and making employers and workers pay for it.

Well, industrial capitalism in the nineteenth century was all in favor of strong government infrastructure. The ideal of industrial capitalism was to keep the wage costs of production down not by reducing wages but having government provide a basic infrastructure to cover the basic needs of employees. The governments would provide free education so that employers didn’t have to pay for it. The governments would provide medical care so that employees didn’t have to pay for it and employers wouldn’t have to pay employees enough money to cover the education costs and to cover the medical care costs. The government would build roads and infrastructure and everything to facilitate the overall cost of doing business by industrial capital.

Well finance capitalism is just the reverse. Finance capitalism wants to privatize and take education, medical care, roads, turn the roads into toll roads, and take all of these and privatize them and make them financial corporations that will essentially pay out their economic rent to the bondholders and the stockholders and this economic rent adds to the cost of education and everything else that workers need to live on so the result is to make it a high cost economy and that’s why Biden has said China and Russia are America’s enemies because the only way that America can succeed given our privatized economy, given the fact that Americans have to pay up to forty three percent of their income for rent, given the fact that eighteen percent of America’s GDP is for medical care, given the heavy student loan debt–only if other countries tie themselves in the same knot, only if other countries impose the same economic overhead on their labor force and on their industry can there be equal competition.”

~ Michael Hudson, Economist

scott467

“read JJ Sefton’s Morning Report today. He believes our country has already “fallen” … and I agree … and I agree with Hudson’s premise that “Financial Capitalism” (which some have been labeling “Crony Capitalism”) is the culprit.”

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That has seemed apparent since the moment JB was sworn in.

At any time up to that point the military could have defended the Constitution and the Republic, and I fully expected them to.

They didn’t.

In Myanmar they did. Not here.

If the government was allowed to be stolen by domestic traitors and foreign adversaries, then by definition, the Republic was ended on January 20th, 2021.

“Fallen” is just another way of saying the same thing.

phoenixrising

Yes, I agree. And as far as “devolution goes”, I read somewhere that the uniparty has been using that since … well a long time… and “National Emergency” …

scott467

Devolution is a great theory. The military being in secret control is a great theory.

Unfortunately, over a million Americans are dead from Covid alone: https://usafacts.org/visualizations/coronavirus-covid-19-spread-map/

That’s about the same number of U.S. fatalities suffered in the Civil War and WWII combined.

So that’s on one side of the ‘devolution’ ledger. That’s the enemy’s score against the Republic, against We the People.

Now let’s take a look at how well the ‘devolution’ and the secret military are doing, how many of the enemy they have eliminated:

0

Zero points on the board, a big fat goose egg, but it’s early yet, and we’re only down by around a million to nothing.

If ‘devolution’ and ‘secret military control’ were real, and the result is the loss of as many or more Americans as were lost in the Civil War and WWII combined, some people might conclude that ‘devolution’ and ‘secret military control’ has failed, utterly.

Unless losing a million + Americans is what winning looks like.

And the way definitions of words change these days, that could certainly be the case!

Aubergine

Scott, a million people are not dead from Covid.

There may be a million people who died with Covid, but I doubt even that.

Just because they called every death a Covid death, doesn’t make it so.

scott467

“Just because they called every death a Covid death, doesn’t make it so.”

___________

That may be true, or not, how can we ever know how many people have died from Covid, with so much intentional cover-up and corruption of data?

But it is their data (TPTB), and they can’t very easily dispute their own data.

But what if it was only 900,000 dead from Covid, would that change anything?

What about 800,000 dead from Covid?

How about 700,000 Americans dead from Covid?

600,000?

Peradventure there shall be found 500,000 Americans in the grave from Covid?

400,000?

300,000?

200,000?

What if just 100,000 Americans have died from exposure to the lab-conceived Corona virus that was unleashed on America and the world, does that materially change anything with regard to who is winning, and who isn’t?

Even if only half that many died from the Act of War committed against our People, is 50,000 to zero really anything more to celebrate than a million to zero?

You see the dilemma.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Plus, whoever it is that is guilty of the however-many COVID deaths…is also culpable for the vaccine related deaths.

Which are still happening; who knows how high that number will get.

Aubergine

Well, what if NOBODY died FROM Covid?

How would we know?

People die every day. EVERY DAY.

If I, in a position of the power to do so, said and perpetuated the idea that ALL of the people who died last year died of racklefrazzlebumberschnitz, and I had the power to enforce that myth through giant agencies like the CDC and the WHO, how would we ever know that Ole Uncle Joe died of being a fat old diabetic who used to smoke as opposed to dying of racklefrazzlebumberschnitz.

THAT’S the dilemma.

Valerie Curren

Is this what the “marked classified” documents raid is about???

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@TheRealDonaldTrumpet
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Note the DATE. https://gab.com/emoji/1f447.svg

https://gab.com/TheRealDonaldTrumpet/posts/108798299033403007

RAC

The lawsuit PDJT brought against the hag and a host of others crossed my mind.
I don’t think it was aimed at a financial goal, more dragging all the miscreants out into the open.
It seems to have gone quiet about that.
Wonder if that could be connected in anyway to the raid.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YES! I was thinking the same thing.

Valerie Curren

Good thoughts…inquiring minds want to know!

scott467

No instagram account. They should upload it to Rumble.

Valerie Curren

let’s hope 🙂

TheseTruths

If it exists, it should have been sent to key Congresspeople and media outlets by now.

Valerie Curren

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Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

protected (cl)ass

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Valerie Curren

Kari for the Krown!

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Kari is asked why they haven’t raided the Biden family homes and she says they wouldn’t even have to. They can just look at Hunter’s laptop which is already in their possession: “It’s literally laid out there showing inside deals with our adversaries, showing criminal drug use, showing not just inappropriate but most likely human trafficking or sex trafficking. There’s a lot of stuff on there that’s even too disturbing to talk about.” https://gab.com/emoji/1f440.svg

https://gab.com/emoji/1f4a5.svg It is time the digital warriors united in exposing human trafficking in a positive, deliberate manner. Check out the strategy presented in this series of videos. The guy is a slow talker so listen at 1.5 speed. The strategy is powerful and bang on and worth your time.
https://rumble.com/velf8t-video-3-of-4-patriots-control-the-narrative-radio.html
>>>> https://gab.com/emoji/261d.svg <<<&lt;

https://rumble.com/velf8t-video-3-of-4-patriots-control-the-narrative-radio.html

https://gab.com/Neil_Sperling/posts/108798550712096025

Gail Combs

FWIW, I heard that Hunter had gotten his 12 yr old niece pregnant….

kalbokalbs

Sick. Sadly not surprised.

Valerie Curren

So sick & so sad…

Valerie Curren

This juxtapositional video is great…hope it plays or someone else can get it…40 secs

https://t.me/ChristianPatriotNews/10851

Video clearly shows the difference between the Trumps & Bye-Done’s in regards to helicopter rides w/ presidential seal. Marines in dress uniform salute Trumps. Persons in green jumpsuits stand at attention & appear to ignore J & J…

https://gab.com/LaurieSmith1000/posts/108800015894801004

Last edited 1 month ago by Valerie Curren
Valerie Curren

clean living 😉

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TheseTruths

She has been in the Senate 30 years, and she was 59 when she took office. She was involved in San Francisco politics before that. She’s 89 years old!

Valerie Curren

good history…you’d think she’d be tired now & ready to retire 😉

TheseTruths

It looks as if some people make political life the centerpiece of their existence (*cough* Pelosi).

Valerie Curren

Schumer, Bye-Done, Clinton, grifters all!

kalbokalbs

These days every bit as sharp as RBG was. Walking dead.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

MOVED UP by the CCP.

Valerie Curren

forgot about her Chi-com driver…

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Driver, confidante, AIDE, and then OFFICE DIRECTOR.

Per the fake news, “driver”.

Valerie Curren

Handler?

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Most likely. He was worth TRILLIONS to CCP.

Valerie Curren

Fascinating

RedLegLeader68

T.H.I.S.

kalbokalbs

These days, a perfect model for one of them dried up apple doll faces.

Valerie Curren

LOL Poor apple 🙁

Valerie Curren

LOL from Gab

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Meta (Facebook) has developed an artificial chat bot. It works great!!

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You can try it out here: https://blenderbot.ai/

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

THEY’RE SOVIETS.

Valerie Curren

hopium vs nopium

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@Dissidentsoaps
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Important message for the plan trusters out there. Patriots are not in control.

https://gab.com/Dissidentsoaps/posts/108798623927134213

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Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

LMAO!!!

kalbokalbs

BiteMe’s clock is Laugh Out Loud Funny.

AND, Durham ought to hang it up, retire. Admit he’s been Collecting A Paycheck. NOTHING more. No deliverable.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

It looks like about 12 minutes to 3.

Though how to interpret the offset to the axis of the clock motor is beyond me…I guess I didn’t read enough of my own stuff on relativity.

😀

kalbokalbs

The relativity stuff.

  • I read it. Well most of it. OK, a LOT of it. (Stuff I could follow.)

Surprising to me, retained a bunch. I think.

But, no quiz here. Two or three axis here?

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, that part was just alluding to the way the hands had fallen off. I was being completely silly.

Valerie Curren

I pretty much Always LOVE your take on things!!!

kalbokalbs

Rarely short an opinion. 🙂

Valerie Curren

& they are most enjoyable & to the point!!!

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I just had a revelation about Durham, because you’re RIGHT. if he’s there to deliver, he SHOULD hang it up. So what is REALLY going on?

He’s only there to “show us”, IMO. Not just “us” on the outside. The “us” on the inside.

Part of what he’s going to show us is that justice is impossible with the current DOJ and judiciary.

That’s OK.

Durham is a PROBE into darkness. He’s like sticking a screwdriver into rotten wood, to see how much needs to be removed and replaced.

This is not a normal judicial operation, IMO.

Imagine a bunch of rotten, termite-infested wood in part of a house. You find a good piece of wood, long and thin and hard, break it off, and use it to probe what needs to be cut out.

Durham PROBABLY has enough data already, and that has to be panicking the termites. But he is looking to get more, is poking around in a new direction, and that tells the left to stop panicking, keep stalling.

DOJ is deeply rotten. We know this now. Elections won’t fix things. We know this now.

“Durham.”

Q said “Durham.” But he didn’t say what Durham would do. He let everybody make of it what they would. Most people thought that we would get justice through Durham, but that actually contradicts Q’s other statements. Therefore, expect Durham to merely X-ray the rot.

Remediation will come through other means.

Durham is showing us how much cannot be fixed by normal means.

Valerie Curren

IRS can run but it cannot hide…

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https://gab.com/emoji/2b07.svg 87,000 Strong … btw [They] disabled the link , but it was already archived https://gab.com/emoji/1f609.svg

https://gab.com/gigigirau83/posts/108799743222406257

kalbokalbs

She ought to skip the war paint.

Natural beauty in that gal.

Yea, my mind is easily averted from the daily BS.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

And why the heck not?

We need mental breaks from the mental defectives.

Valerie Curren

Look Squirrel isn’t always a bad thing!

scott467

Those warts growing on her scalp are a little more concerning.

kalbokalbs

🙂

Valerie Curren

future is here 🙁

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TheseTruths

Jonathan Turley on whether a records violation could keep PDJT from holding office again:
https://jonathanturley.org/2022/08/09/the-whole-enchilada-liberal-figures-wrongly-claim-the-mar-a-lago-raid-could-disqualify-trump-from-future-office/

This is not the first time that this disqualification argument has been made and scholars like Seth Tillman have previously raised constitutional objections to it. (Professor Josh Blackmun also has a column on this issue)

The problem is that the law would add a qualification or condition that is not stated in the Constitution. There are constitutional ways to impeach a president or to bar a former president from future office. The mishandling of official records is not one of them. In analogous cases like Powell v. McCormack and U.S. Term Limits v. Thornton, the Supreme Court rejected the authority of states to impose new qualifications for congressional seats under Article I. The same is presumably true under Article II when it comes to the chief executive.

There is ample reason to doubt that the presidency would be deemed barred by statute in this fashion. What would not be in doubt is how such novel claim of disqualification would be received by millions of citizens already skeptical of the motivations of both the Biden Administration and specifically the FBI.

The basis and even the motivation of this raid will become clear in time, including whether there is evidence of willful and unlawful conduct by the former president. However, whatever this raid produces, this “enchilada” will likely be hard for most judges to swallow as a way to keeping Trump off the ballot in 2024.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

EXCELLENT. This aligns perfectly with my theory that the Dems are trying to create JUDICIAL CHAOS on the point as one more impediment to Trump and WE THE PEOPLE. Meanwhile, all the other goals of the multi-goal operation are still operating. Leaked information will be fed to Nancy’s Show Trial, the Racist New York Witch Huntress, and the Poisonous Fake News. New possible angles of harassment will be identified.

They’re EVIL. They deserve a METEOR or FIRE FROM ABOVE.

phoenixrising

Martin Geddes Channel
Forwarded from BioClandestine

Trump suffered no losses, the Dems just went full Gestapo, and did so unsuccessfully, and now the precedent is established that this is acceptable behavior in the minds of the Left and their sheep.

Right as Hunter Biden is about to be indicted and Putin and Xi are calling for international military tribunals…

It’s like we hit the lottery. You shouldn’t be pissed, you should be popping bottles. The crazier shit gets, the closer we get to the finish line.

-Clandestine

TheseTruths

now the precedent is established that this is acceptable behavior in the minds of the Left and their sheep

People keep saying that precedents are being set, but I see a couple of problems with that:
1 An illegal precedent will not stand, and we will not follow it.
2 The Left will not agree that the precedent should now be the accepted norm. They only want raids on our side and would scream bloody murder if someone on the Left got raided. We can’t rely on their being even-handed, or rely on judges to rule fairly across the board.

In cases like having politicians release their tax returns, the “precedent” idea could hold more water, but not for outrageous, illegal, unconstitutional behavior; that is reserved for them to do against us.

phoenixrising

I agree with your reasoning.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Agreed.

I look back at the “excesses” by Q-ists and I literally CRINGE. The calls for “pain” sure boomeranged. Where did that come from? KARMA?

IF those excesses were a GOAL of the Q team, then they were on the other side, IMO. If they were an ACCEPTABLE RISK, then Q may have been either from our side, or a negotiated compromise as part of the Deep State “negotiated” government.

The more I see of the Pentagon Deep State, the more I think they were part of some weird “negotiated government” which only insures its own continuity.

Thus, no rescue for Trump or us. They will stand by and watch us, and if we tolerate the yoke, they’re good with it – ALL OF THEM.

TheseTruths

I look back at the “excesses” by Q-ists and I literally CRINGE. The calls for “pain” sure boomeranged. Where did that come from?

I’m not sure what you’re referring to — when Q would talk about their feeling pain? There are people who think the Left is feeling pain now and is panicking about what will be/could be revealed.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

I tried several responses, but I deleted them all. Best to just let this one age a while.

TheseTruths

👍🏼

pgroup2

Wine is better when aged but every so often it ages into vinegar.

Just saying.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Thanks to Kalbo, my thoughts that I deleted just turned into “new wine”!

Why are they only “showing us”, and not fixing?

Because it can’t be fixed. Not by normal means.

“Durham.”

It didn’t mean what we thought it meant.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

A lot of what goes on here is effectively “brainstorming.” People sometimes just toss things out…most of it is useless, but we’re looking for the 10 percent that either isn’t BS…or might trigger a thought that wouldn’t have happened otherwise.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP. Exactly. Bouncing something in at a new angle can make it make sense.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

On top of everything you said, they’ll just point back to Trump’s threats to do something about Hitlary.

And right now, how are we talking about those who have overthrown the constitutional order?

They’re gearing up to do exactly the same thing to Trump, and they sincerely believe HE is the one trying to overthrow the constitutional order; that’s what the never-to-be-sufficiently-damned TV has been telling them for over a year and a half.

They might be wrong about this; I certainly believe they are wrong, but if you want to know how someone will behave, look at what HE believes…not what YOU believe, and pay no attention to whether what they believe is right. They think it is, and for determining what they’re going to do, that’s all that matters.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

The media has done so much harm. Trump is certainly right about the Fake News.

Gail Combs

That is WHY the Fake News MUST BE TAKEN OUT FIRST!

scott467

“People keep saying that precedents are being set, but I see a couple of problems with that:

1 An illegal precedent will not stand, and we will not follow it.”

_______________

The precedent is in the mind of the public, that something which had never been done before now has been done, in the most corrupt way possible.

What they did to Trump may have been wildly ‘illegal’, but the Left did it anyway.

When Trump is back in the WH, his AG can now do the same to the Left, but do it lawfully.

Before the Left did it to Trump, it didn’t matter how much lawful evidence might support such a raid, it would never happen. Not to the Clintons, not to Bush, not to Hussein. Because the Deep State and their bullhorns in the MSM would wail like wounded banshees that it JUST ISN’T DONE, and the wishy-washy non-committal middle would be swayed like they always are.

Now it has been done, and it was done as a matter of corrupt political persecution by the Left, without any credible or lawful cause.

When Trump is back, he will have credible lawful cause.

He will have credible evidence.

He will have the lawful authority to do it.

He will have the moral high ground to do it.

And nobody in the MSM can say *&^% about it, nobody can cry about how “it just isn’t done”, because it has been done — it was done by the criminals and traitors to DJT — personally.

Not only is turnabout ‘fair play’, no one deserves to have it done to them more than the traitors who stole our government.

So the precedent is much more a matter of public perception and acceptance when it comes time for Trump to go after these criminals.

When Trump does it, it will be according to the Law with every “i” dotted and ‘T’ crossed.

Before, having credible evidence wouldn’t have mattered, because the higher ups of the political-class were ‘untouchable’ in our bogus multi-tiered justus system. It would have been politically impossible (that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t have found a way to do it anyway while he was president).

The Left has broken that glass ceiling, regardless of how lawlessly they did it.

Now Trump can do it, and so long as he has credible evidence to support it, the ‘untouchable’ aspect is gone, no one can ever again claim that “it just isn’t done”.

Which is the only thing that kept it from being done in the first place.

TheseTruths

Are you saying that violating the Constitution and the rule of law would be considered OK for us to do — in the eyes of the law, not the public — because the Left did it first?

scott467

“Are you saying that violating the Constitution and the rule of law would be considered OK for us to do — in the eyes of the law, not the public — because the Left did it first?”

________________

No, not at all.

There are TWO separate issues.

Issue 1: before this week, it was not politically possible for an honest AG or prosecutor to “raid” a member of the ‘untouchable’ political-class (i.e., Uni-Party members), no matter how much evidence existed.

Even if DJT had ironclad evidence that video tapes of Hussein committing High Treason were in Hussein’s safe at Hussein’s house, it wouldn’t matter, because it was politically impossible — due to the public blowback that would be manufactured by MSM defense efforts — to ever do it.

That is a public perception issue, a ‘political correctness’ / peer-pressure issue, a psychological roadblock, because up until this week, raiding a member of the ‘untouchable’ political-class had never been done before.

Ever since Kennedy, far too many Americans bought into the “Camelot” narrative, and see our political leaders as some kind of ‘royalty’, which allows the public to excuse nearly any conduct by political leaders, because royalty are above the law.

To the general public, there is no distinction between Trump and the Left or Uni-Party in this regard, they are all ‘supposed to be‘ untouchable, part of the unwritten social contract with ‘royalty’ (excuse me while I vomit at this disgusting and unfortunate reality).

The Left BROKE that social contract, shattered that glass ceiling, violated the unwritten code.

As a result, when the shoe is eventually on the other foot, when DJT is POTUS again, no one in the MSM can any longer credibly claim that ‘raiding’ a member of the (previously) ‘untouchable’ political-class just isn’t done, because it was done by the Left, and it wasn’t done to just anybody, it was done to DJT himself, by the Left.

So the MSM can wail and scream and carry on, and it won’t matter, because to the public, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, and the MSM can cry all the giant crocodile hypocrisy tears they want — nobody cares.

That is issue 1, the public perception aspect.

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Issue 2 is separate, the issue of Law.

When it is DJT’s turn to go after these criminals, he won’t do what the Left did, he won’t manufacture evidence on some flimsy premise and get a crooked judge to sign off on it to go on a fishing expedition or evidence-planting scheme.

DJT will do it “by the book”, according to the Law. His AG will have the evidence, he will take it before a legitimate judge (probably multiple judges, just to be extra safe), obtain legitimate warrants that easily withstand both public and legal scrutiny, and then treat these criminals like any other criminals, equal justice under Law.

Just as DJT may have wanted to do during his first term, but could not, because Issue #1 (the glass ceiling and public perception) prevented him.

Issue #1 is now removed, it is no longer an issue, thanks to the Left’s insane raid on a former president, DJT, this week.

That means that issue #2 can now be implemented, the Law can be equally applied to the previously ‘untouchable’ political-class, without Issue #1 preventing it.

Gail Combs

DO NOT FORGET THE FAKE NEWS KNOWINGLY cooperated with framing President Trump. There may not be much LEFT of the CIA’s mouth piece, the mockingbird Press after they have been sued into oblivion.

Aubergine

AMEN!!!

scott467

“2 The Left will not agree that the precedent should now be the accepted norm.”

_______________

The enemy will never agree to anything that goes against their interest, so agreement from the enemy is irrelevant by definition. It’s a waste of time and effort to even seek agreement from the enemy.

The problem has been that the MSM could inflame the public against any honest prosecutor who went after one of the political-class ‘untouchables’.

And the MSM will certainly try it again when Trump is back in the WH and finally goes after somebody, but the next time the MSM tries it in defense of JB or Hussein or Clinton, or their cronies, the MSM’s complaints will fall on deaf (public) ears, because there is likely not a single person in America today who doesn’t know what was just done to Trump.

So the Left doesn’t have to ‘agree’, and they won’t. They will yell and scream and protest and carry on like they always do.

The difference is that nobody will care, because hypocrisy.

The Left already did it to Trump.

They took their shot.

They missed.

The general public will have no sympathy for the ‘untouchable’ class on this subject going forward, no matter how loudly the MSM talking heads doth protest.

TheseTruths

The difference is that nobody will care, because hypocrisy.

Do you think a raid on Hillary’s home now would be considered OK because it was just done to Trump?

pgroup2

Now that you mention it, … YES.

scott467

“Do you think a raid on Hillary’s home now would be considered OK because it was just done to Trump?”

______________

Absolutely!

That is the dynamic which changed, the moment the raid on Mar-a-Lago was executed.

Hussein, Clinton, JB, Sorass, everybody is fair game now.

If it can be done to former President Donald John Trump, then it can be done to a-n-y-b-o-d-y.

Not now of course, the criminals won’t raid themselves, but when DJT is POTUS again.

The Left, by their action this week, made the previously unthinkable (in the mind of much of the public), not just thinkable, but practically certain, a done deal.

Every person in America, if they think about it for two seconds, knows that now that they have done this to Trump, Trump will be justified and vindicated by doing it right back to them.

Not illegally as the Left did to Trump, but according to the Law, as Trump will do to his (and our) persecutors and tormentors.

TheseTruths

Every person in America, if they think about it for two seconds, knows that now that they have done this to Trump, Trump will be justified and vindicated by doing it right back to them.

Good. I’m looking forward to the media, the Clintons, the Bidens, the purple-haired lesbos, the trans men/women, the deep state operatives, the vaccine nazis, the Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers, and the corrupt judges being on board. 👍🏼😂

scott467

“Good. I’m looking forward to the media, the Clintons, the Bidens, the purple-haired lesbos, the trans men/women, the deep state operatives, the vaccine nazis, the Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers, and the corrupt judges being on board.”

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Obviously the criminals won’t be onboard with their own oncoming demise, I was referring to the general public when I said “Every person in America”.

The purple-haired lesbos won’t be onboard either, and neither will any ideologically intransigent haters. No different than anywhere else.

There was likely not a single Nazi at the end of WWII whose mind was changed, or didn’t believe exactly what they believed before WWII ended.

But the general public, the wishy-washy middle, is who the MSM plays to. If they can manipulate the wishy-washy middle, if they can CONTROL public ‘opinion’ — not every single person, but enough for the fake pollsters to ‘work’ with — then the MSM can control the public ‘narrative’.

And the public ‘narrative’, for better or for worse, is used as an excuse for politicians to do what they want to do, or avoid doing what they don’t want to do.

Prior to this week, the public narrative was that people like Hitlery and Hussein and Bush were ‘untouchable’, and that class of people included DJT, a former president of the United States.

The Left BROKE that public perception, and when you break that public perception, you can’t do it selectively, i.e., you can’t JUST break that perception with regard to DJT. If you break it — and they did — you break it for everybody.

Will the purple-haired lesbos agree? No, and who cares?

Will the criminals themselves agree? No, and who cares?

The wishy-washy middle isn’t really partisan or even political, they’re disinterested in the political process as a whole.

But they understand right and wrong, and what happened to DJT this week violates the norms and conventions that have applied their entire lives, and that won’t be lost on the wishy-washy middle.

The non-committal middle understands basic fairness, and that turnabout is not only fair play, but it’s how the world works. If you wrong somebody, and that somebody is ever in a position to take retribution — especially righteously and with strong lawful cause — what does anyone really expect is going to happen, in the real world?

DJT will do to them according to the Law, and because of what was done to Trump this week, the general public (excluding purple-haired lesbos, the criminals themselves, and shrieking harpies in the MSM) will accept it.

Which means that what could not be done before, can be done now (i.e., when DJT is back in the WH), because of what the criminal Left did this week to a former POTUS.

Purple-haired lesbos and trannies are less than 1%.

Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers are maybe 20%, i.e., committed hardcore mono-thought democrat Wojaks.

Deep state operatives, the vaccine nazis and the corrupt judges are the criminal targets, and less than 1% of the population.

All patriots, MAGA, plus the wishy-washy middle, is a super majority.

TheseTruths

I hope you’re right. Some of the “normal middle” people have nothing but disdain for PDJT, and I have doubts about their perceptions changing. I even doubt that they would have included Trump in this list of “untouchables.”

Prior to this week, the public narrative was that people like Hitlery and Hussein and Bush were ‘untouchable’, and that class of people included DJT, a former president of the United States.

They have condoned lying about him for years, spying on him, impeaching him twice for nothing (thereby trying to remove him from office), suing him, and cheating him out of his second term in office. I think many will think raiding his home is just fine for him, but that it would not be for others. I do not expect the public turnaround that you do, but I hope people will wake up and operate on principle. It will be interesting to see what happens.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

In other words, you have the same perception I do about the “soft left.”

I don’t know about you, but I believe them immovable because of the YSM. Until the Yellow Stream Media moves, the soft left will not, because that’s what fills their brains. The soft left “watches the news” so they’re “informed.” (Unlike you.) They won’t change their minds, until the (mis)information peddlers do. And the YSM won’t move. Because they are complicit.

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TheseTruths

Exactly.

scott467

“I hope you’re right. Some of the “normal middle” people have nothing but disdain for PDJT, and I have doubts about their perceptions changing.”

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We don’t have to change the ‘hearts and minds’ of ‘every’ enemy. That almost never works anyway.

We don’t even have to change the hearts and minds of any of the enemy.

There is always hope that we do, but making that one’s objective is largely futile.

I’ll try a different angle.

Prosecutors are still human beings, subject to all sorts of political pressure from all of the usual suspects.

Even if an honest prosecutor determines to go after an ‘untouchable’ member of the political-class, without support from his bosses, he will get shut down.

Before this week, no one in the political world would have supported any honest prosecutor going after a former POTUS or other high official in the ‘untouchable’ class (i.e., Hussein, Hitlery, Bush, etc., or their cronies), under any circumstances.

It just wasn’t done. It was ‘tradition’, it was the ‘norm’. It was an unwritten social contract. It was a gentleman’s agreement among criminals, which the public had wrongly allowed.

After this week, because the Left broke this ‘tradition’, and used the FIB like it was the Soviet KGB and raided the home of a former president of the United States, without even minimal credible cause, they opened the door to something which had never been done before.

And in doing so, the Left provided political cover for any future honest prosecutor, so long as his superiors have his back.

And when DJT is back in office, that future honest prosecutor’s superiors will have his back.

Because they (the AG and POTUS) will have the exact same political cover as the prosecutor.

Namely, nobody in the MSM, no matter how loudly they protest (and they will!), can credibly claim, anymore, that “it just isn’t done!“.

And there is no other justification for not holding high officials accountable to the same Rule of Law as everyone else is held to.

There just isn’t. There is no credible argument that can be made that won’t sound ridiculous, because there is no credible argument that anyone, least of all in America, is above the Law. So there will only be wailing and gnashing of the teeth.

Let them wail and gnash.

There never was any credible argument that anyone is above the Law, there was only the ‘tradition’, or the unwritten social contract, and that ‘tradition’ or ‘social contract’ was NUKED by the Left in Florida this week.

The ONLY supposed (morally and legally repugnant) ‘justification’ for protecting former Presidents and their cronies from prosecution for real and serious crimes was a wholly UN-American ‘tradition’ they created to protect themselves.

That veil of protection burned up like a comet entering the atmosphere.

That’s gone now, they threw it all away on Monday, August 8, 2022, at Mar-a-Lago.

From that moment forward, any U.S. prosecutor, with backing from his superiors — all of whom will now have political cover from MSM recriminations which did not exist before Monday — can now prosecute former presidents and other high officials if the evidence warrants such prosecution.

Before Monday, no such political cover existed, making it politically impossible.

The Left broke the mold on Monday, blowing up the canard that anyone (even a former POTUS) is ‘untouchable’, putting a shield of protection in the hands of any future prosecutor, to withstand any and all attacks coming from enemy MSM.

That was missing on August 7th.

The ‘good guys’ could never go after Hitlery, Hussein, Bush, etc., because it just isn’t done. It had never been done before, so that was the precedent, that was the ‘norm‘ set in the public consciousness, and the MSM could appeal to that ‘norm’, as repugnant to the Rule of Law as it is and was, based on the public perception.

That public perception — that former presidents and other high officials simply ARE NOT investigated or prosecuted — doesn’t exist anymore, the Left blew it up on Monday.

It doesn’t matter if any of the public LIKE it or not, it is a matter of historical record and fact, so if they do what they usually do and take to the bully pulpit to shout down their opponents, their opponents can now throw FACTS in their faces and laugh at them.

It’s like a hyper puritan den-mother of a girls dormitory getting caught fornicating with three men at the same time. That den mother’s moral authority to accuse or denounce anyone else for anything is gone forever. Put a fork in her, she’s done.

In the same way, the MSM’s ability to appeal to and manipulate public opinion by making excuses for Hussein, Clinton, Bush or their cronies to be protected from prosecution based on ‘tradition’ is likewise done.

GONE.

Not because any hearts or minds were changed, but because the reality has changed, and no one can deny it.

Like when the rulers, elders, scribes and high priest (Annas) were confronted with the fact that a miracle had been performed, and everybody knew it. Even though they were enemies of the Apostles, they could not deny it, they could not deny what was a publicly known fact.

Whether the public actually liked that a miracle was performed, or not, was not relevant. It was the fact that it happened which was relevant, because as a result of that fact being established, they could not deny it.

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“Saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it.” (Acts 4:16, KJV)
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That this thing has happened, that DJT’s home was raided, likewise cannot be denied.

Not by the purple-haired lesbos, not by Trump haters, not by anyone. It is an established fact known to everyone.

And because it is known to everyone — whether they like it or not, whether they support Trump or not — it changes the dynamic.

The rulers of the Temple were forced to change their strategy, because they could not deny that a miracle had taken place. If they could have denied it, they certainly would have denied it — but they couldn’t, which forced a change in what they would do next.

That applies here also, except there is no ‘change’ that can take the place, no substitute for the bogus ‘tradition’ of making former presidents and other high officials above the Law.

It’s a ‘tradition’ that should never have been allowed in the first place!

But it was, and once it was established, it was nearly impossible to remove.

It is almost certain that only ONE entity even could remove it, and that was the Left itself. Certainly no RINO could or would even try to remove that tradition.

But the Left did it, they ended that miserable ‘tradition’ that is repugnant to any form of positive Law. They did it in front of the whole world, with cameras rolling, on Monday, August 8th.

Nobody has to ‘like’ it, but neither can anybody deny it.

And that fact provides cover to any future prosecutor, backed by his superiors, to go wherever the evidence takes him — even and especially if it is straight to 666 Hussein Street, where it crosses Clinton Ave — and wherever else the evidence may lead.

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Gail Combs

Trump/MAGA supporters are nothing if not COMMITTED and unshakable in their belief,

Minority rules: Scientists discover tipping point for the spread of ideas

Scientists at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute have found that when just 10 percent of the population holds an unshakable belief, their belief will always be adopted by the majority of the society. The scientists, who are members of the Social Cognitive Networks Academic Research Center (SCNARC) at Rensselaer, used computational and analytical methods to discover the tipping point where a minority belief becomes the majority opinion. The finding has implications for the study and influence of societal interactions ranging from the spread of innovations to the movement of political ideals.

“When the number of committed opinion holders is below 10 percent, there is no visible progress in the spread of ideas. It would literally take the amount of time comparable to the age of the universe for this size group to reach the majority,” said SCNARC Director Boleslaw Szymanski, the Claire and Roland Schmitt Distinguished Professor at Rensselaer. “Once that number grows above 10 percent, the idea spreads like flame.”

Aubergine

Um, HELL YEAH?!

TheseTruths

By the Left?

scott467

“By the Left?”

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No, not by the Left, it will never be considered OK by the Left to raid Hitlery’s home, not even if there was video and live witnesses proving she personally raped and murdered dozens of children.

Nothing will persuade such people.

Which is why seeking agreement or approval from such is a waste of time and effort.

The far more important thing, I think, is that because the Left raided Trump’s home, the Left can never again claim such a thing is off limits or out-of-bounds, because they themselves destroyed that ‘tradition’ last Monday.

It doesn’t matter whether a single Kool-Aid chugging Hitlery worshipper likes it or agrees with or not, they cannot deny the indisputable fact, in the real world, known by all, that the Left raided Trump’s home.

The Left took the ‘untouchable’ political-class ‘tradition’, and ended it.

And that fact, regardless of what any Trump supporter or Trump hater thinks about it, cannot be denied.

They did it.

Everybody knows it.

No one can deny it.

So that door is open now, and Trump (or anyone else) has the freedom to do likewise.

And if he doesn’t, then a new and even more ridiculous ‘tradition’ will be established.

And that new ‘tradition’ will be that the Left can weaponize government and persecute and prosecute any and all opposition with impunity, but nobody else can.

And that’s just a bad joke.

Do ‘man on the street’ interviews on that idea, and even outright Trump haters won’t be able to say that sounds fair and good and right without laughing.

Because it’s ridiculous!

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Aubergine

I agree 100% with Scott’s reply to you on this one.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

I’m going to take a WILD GUESS here.

🙂

You thought it was OK *before* the MAL raid.

😀

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Aubergine

Of course I did!

Hillary Clinton actually BROKE THE LAW.

But as Scott has pointed out, there was a long-long-precedent (as in forever, as far as the United States was concerned) that past presidents, running presidents, political opponents, and PAST political opponents were OFF LIMITS.

That tradition has held since the Founding.

But NOW, that is no longer the case.

No longer can anyone claim “we don’t do that.”

Because we demonstrably DO “do that.”

Trump knows this, and he very likely baited them to commit the DUMBEST ACT OF SELF-IMMOLATION ever in the history of politics.

Watch what happens when he’s back in office. Because he will be. This is just a step in the process.

pgroup2

You nailed this.

Aubergine

If you aim to kill the King, you’d best NOT miss.

cthulhu

Denninger has an interesting take on MAL….

https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=246579

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

YUP. It’s entirely possible Trump knew they were trying to frame him, and he “tripped the wire”.

Either way, FIB is evil.

Aubergine

I wrote mine before I read this, I swear!!!! Lol.

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Independent arrival at the same hypothesis is always, IMO, a priori evidence of the strength of the hypothesis.

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Or it’s a priori evidence you’re both practicing the same alternative (ahem) medicine off the same fungus.

(Just kidding)

Wolf Moon | Threat to Demonocracy

Denninger is more of the firewater type, but point taken!  😉 

Aubergine

I think so, too. Which is really why I pointed it out, not for my sainted “vanity.”

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Oh, good, you found it…I couldn’t for the life of me remember the name of the dang page and my connection is really slow right now, scanning for it through two pages of replies would have been impractical.

Aubergine

🙂

SteveInCO · Thermonuclear MAGA

Slight variation.

The article mentions he has TWO safes, and the one raided was the newer safe.

What if he had TWO suspected moles, and leaked to one that the docs were in the old safe, and to the other that the docs were in the new safe?

Now he’d know which one it was.

Apparently, in the early days of the second (Bush 43) Gulf War, Hussein gave out different itineraries to different people.

I remember the night the actual kinetic action started, they bombed ONE house in Baghdad, claiming they had good info there was a significant target in it. Apparently, Hussein was using a canary trap; I’ll bet the informant was dead within hours–maybe longer if they decided to prolong his agony as a lesson.

TheseTruths

That’s a fun theory.

▪️ He has conclusively identified the mole.  If I was that person I’d be a bit nervous. He or she definitely has a rather short employment tenure, and if there’s a non-disclosure involved (I bet there is) I hope said person has some good lawyers and the money to pay them, because while you can always try to hide behind the “I was just reporting a crime I believed occurred” you are going to run into a buzzsaw of allegations that your actions were motivated by political animus, your employment was fraudulent in the first instance, etc. You might win that but at ruinous cost. Better check with Swalwell or Pelosi to see if they need someone — stat.

▪️ He has sprayed egg all over the FBI and DOJ’s face, including specifically and personally Garland, Wray and more.  In fact this might indeed be enough to destroy the existing FBI and DOJ agencies over time. We’ll see; I wouldn’t take a wager on that one way or another, but most certainly it has (and will continue to) enrage people on both sides of the aisle since the alleged “bounty” was a dry hole.

▪️ He has copyright and thus the right to use all of the surveillance video.  Here come hundreds of campaign ads with FBI agents rooting through Melania’s underwear drawer. You literally couldn’t make that crap up if you tried; nobody would believe it, but….. they handed it to him on a silver platter and every second of it is nuclear toxic waste politically for the FBI, DOJ and the Democrat Party.

Gail Combs

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kalbokalbs

  :wpds_mrgreen:  ^^^ Nice rant. ^^^   :wpds_twisted: 

Gail Combs

Thought you guys would appreciate it. Esp. Cuppa.

cthulhu

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter….

phoenixrising

Intel Slava Z

A group of US Navy warships will soon make a demonstration passage through the Taiwan Strait in support of Taipei. The exact date is unknown.

The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan of the US Navy will not be sent to the bay, as this step would be too provocative.

US administration

mollypitcher5

With the latest naval failures I fully expect some fiasco..one or both will break down or something.. we ain’t what we used to be

scott467

They could run aground on the coast of Taiwan, that would be some impressive seamanship…

kalbokalbs

Usually one or two ships. Cruiser, Destroyer or Frigate.

It’s a Maritime Law thing. Transit Taiwan Straits. (Not a Bay). Demonstrate Freedom of Navigation.

Quarterly gotta do it for Seventh Fleet.

scott467

“he nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan of the US Navy will not be sent to the bay, as this step would be too provocative.”

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The posturing is so silly.

And for one side to unilaterally determine that a certain ship would be ‘too provocative’, but other ships are just the ‘right’ amount of provocation, is again presumptuous posturing.

They don’t get to make that determination for the enemy, the enemy makes that determination for himself, about what is provocative, and what is not.

A ship is a ship, it’s flying the American flag that counts.

As for the aircraft carrier, if it’s one of the more effective aircraft carriers, then I’m pretty sure it has airplanes on it, which means it doesn’t have to be IN the Taiwan Strait in order for those planes to be in any potential fight within minutes, if the USS Ronald Reagan is in the area but not IN the Strait itself.