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Why the Communist Chinese Behavior of DOJ and FBI Makes Proof of Life Necessary to Prevent Secret Indictment and Arrest of Trump and Associates


We are entering a dangerous phase, patriots. The DOJ and FBI are becoming desperate liars. Each day, they act MORE and MORE COWARDLY, like their Chinese and North Korean counterparts, who “disappear” people in the interest of “national security” without the slightest apology.

Think it can’t happen here? Think they might not “secretly” arrest Trump, to “prevent violence”?

Let’s walk through this.


Here is one side of that equation. (H/T phoenix)

There are a lot of reasons why – yeah – Trump might have said something very uncharacteristic.

Now – we here on this site had a nice debate about this alleged Trump statement, which you can find HERE. (H/T Aubergine)

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2022/08/15/dear-kmag-20220815-joe-biden-didnt-win-%e2%9d%80-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-943782

There are several sources on what Trump ALLEGEDLY said in an interview, AND what he ALLEGEDLY said in a private message to Merrick “Kapo” Garland.

Here are some links to get you started:

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/2022/08/14/report-surprising-private-message-trump-sent-to-merrick-garland-after-mar-a-lago-raid-revealed-n612206

https://redstate.com/levon/2022/08/15/donald-trump-says-temperature-has-to-be-brought-down-in-first-interview-following-fbi-raid-n612430

As you will see from the conversation link above, not everybody was ready to believe that Trump even SAID this. I’m a bit ambivalent about it myself, and have theorized both ways.

I tend to believe he DID say it, but I see an extreme need to be skeptical going forward.

Scott467 did some meticulous digging, and cannot find actual proof that Trump said it, such as a video. And given that Red State was once an anti-Trump oasis, and Fox News literally ASSISTED in the electoral coup against Trump, why should we believe them? I agree. It’s time to be skeptical.

And NOW THIS.

Melania steps out and goes to Trump Tower. As discussed HERE. (H/T Bfly)

LINK: https://www.theqtree.com/2022/08/15/dear-kmag-20220815-joe-biden-didnt-win-%e2%9d%80-open-topic/comment-page-1/#comment-944031

LINK: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-11113647/Melania-arrives-Trump-Tower-black-power-suit-7-000-Chanel-handbag-Mar-Lago-raid.html

We got into bit of discussion about the mask. Take a look.

I mean, take a look.

I mean, really take a look.

Now you all know that I’m a massive skeptic of “doubles” allegations, because in most cases, they’re just disinformation. That disinformation is not only used to make our side look silly – it also protects the REAL cases of stunt doubles, by a kind of “seeded disbelief”.

The fact remains, doubles ARE a real trick, used by all sides. Retired military and DEA operator Jeffrey Prather, who spotted the current use of operators against the American people in recent years, including January Sixth, even talked about the use of doubles in America, on Americans, as the recent “PIT” meeting.

LINK: https://rumble.com/v1fx26f-the-pit-jeffrey-prather-excerpt.html

VIDEO: (You’ll have to listen to the whole wonderful thing – I don’t remember where he talked about the doubles.)

Prather mentions MASKS as being part of the “doubles” scam. He also talks about “doubles” being used as part of discreditation, blackmail, and false evidence. Hopefully somebody can get the exact transcription.

I still remember the time that Kamala Harris, that dopey Indian-Jamaican valley girl who can screw up anything, had a political stunt double “screw up” a simple glad-handing job in Palm Beach, thanks to the brilliant provocateur Laura Loomer, who knew that “Real Kamala” was somewhere else as that very moment, and sent the double running for her vehicle.

FAKE KAMALA GOT LOOMERED! – Laura Loomer Catches Kamala Harris BODY DOUBLE at Palm Beach Polling Place! (VIDEO -PHOTOS)

By Jim Hoft
Published November 1, 2020 at 1:32pm
823 Comments

LINK: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/holy-crap-fake-kamala-got-loomered-laura-loomer-catches-kamala-harris-body-double-palm-beach-polling-place-video-photos/

ARCHIVE: https://archive.ph/iF3bf

VIDEO:

SO – doubles ARE a real thing, but they can be desperately hard to catch.

You have to admit – this lady looks a LOT like Kamala Harris.

Take a look at Melania again. Are you POSITIVE it’s Melania?

Even if it IS Melania, we are going to have to think hard about KAPO’S next move.

We KNOW that this LAWFARE REGIME will literally SANCTION its own illegal and unconstitutional acts against us. Just like every dirty trick they used against Trump – all of which I believe were “globally sanctioned” by horrifying and ANATHEMA secret treaties.

Remember – it’s how they SLEEP AT NIGHT. They tell themselves that everything they do is “legal”.


SO – let’s consider this scenario.

Let’s assume that KAPO – Merrick Garland – acting under the orders of Stalinist ASSHOLE Barack Obama, via the grubby lips of professional LIAR Susan Rice, needs to INDICT or even ARREST Donald Trump.

This may even be a SECRET indictment, under SECRET LAW.

Our pathetic and evil government has clearly been caught with their pants down, SECRETLY but “not so secretly” injecting children with poison to fight “climate change” – or so they tell themselves.

Why would they not secretly arrest Trump?

Would it not be better “for national security” to order some kind of hoax-protected secret arrest “in the interest of public safety”?

Would it not be better FOR THEM to seed disinformation that “all is well”?

Maybe even on social media?

Think about how COWARDLY these asshole DODGE and FIB communists actually are.

SPIT

These people are NOTHING like the old FBI and DOJ.

How do we know this? Because they’re not the same people carrying the guns.

I don’t know about you all, but I don’t trust this government. AT ALL.

Prepare for them to take down our rightful and true President in the most underhanded ways possible. Nothing is beneath them.

Remember what they did to us on January Sixth – how they STOLE our peaceful protest right out from under us.

Because they don’t want us to protest. They want us to give up. They want to “normalize” the removal of Trump.

And I ain’t about to let that happen.

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cthulhu

That much mask and sunglasses screams “concealment” — but “from whom?” and “why?” are open questions.

WSB

The hands look like her. The part in the hair and the color do not and the hem of the slacks are actually a bit higher than her normal. The one getting out of the car looks short.

Also, having worked IN Trump Tower on an apartment there, that entrance is the business entrance. The Residential entrance is on the side street and much different. VERY quiet.

The elevator to the penthouse is on the commercial side from our old TrumpTower Cam days, yet if anyone wanted to scoot in, there should be an underground interior drop off, yet I never was in the basement, so I cannot confirm.

Was this for show?

Gail Combs

Wolfie,

If POTUS had a message for his followers IT WOULD BE ON TRUTH SOCIAL!!!

AND
On Donald Trump Jr Twatter account.

I do not believe ANYTHING the FAKE NEWS says if it is not CONFIRMED by POTUS!!!

Notice he ‘Truthed’ about the passports so why not about the need for CALM?

RAC

If raiders had broke into ones home and took a whole load of stuff without leaving a list, it could be a long time before one noticed individual items where missing, or the next time you were looking for it.
Has PDJT and Melania already avoided the commies next move, body double would buy time to cover that.

cthulhu

Looks like a clear win by VSGPOTUSDJT. Emails that they are returning things they don’t acknowledge they wrongfully seized is golden.

But it has me wondering about Melania and Barron’s passports…..

Sylvia Avery

Does it seem odd that they would leave MAL for the season and leave their passports behind? Wouldn’t they take them with them? Just wondering….

TradeBait2

This is the direction we need to be focusing on in the analysis IMO.

Personally, I think it is clear PDT set them up and is dozens of steps ahead of them. Will see.

it strains credibility that they all forgot their passports. “Hey honey, call the caretaker at MAL and have them send up our passports. What – the FBI took them?!”

Nah.

As for me, the 🥓 is cooking.

Aubergine

Bacon popcorn!

I agree with you. I think Trump stung the morons again.

Aubergine

Lol!

Sylvia Avery

Thanks. I got so PO’d about them taking the passports it wasn’t till I cooled off a bit that I even began to wonder if that didn’t seem just a little odd….I appreciate your thoughts on this.

Chris

Yes the Snowbird factor. Residents with enough means ($$) regularly fly north in the warm summer seasons and south in the cooler ones.
Who travels without the proper ID for any and all eventuality ?
NOT this family.

Gingersmom2009

I put this in another comment. They ALL have their regular tourist passports I’m sure. He allowed them to grab expired ones and a “diplomatic” passport. Maybe the expired ones are diplomatic as well, since they’re for shorter duration. 🤔

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Gail Combs

The “diplomatic” would probably be his ‘PRESIDENTIAL’ passport. IF IT IS STILL ALIVE IT MEANS HE IS ACTUALLY PRESIDENT…. HMMmmmm

Gingersmom2009

Now that I had not thought of.

Sylvia Avery

It seems unlikely, doesn’t it? Yet another odd fact that just makes me wonder what is really going on here.

WSB

True, we have not seen PT since the raid, and one of the rallies has been postponed, no?

RAC

Or, i will add, to make the commies think that had occurred.

cthulhu

I just had raiders bust into my PACKRAT unit and took a bunch of stuff without leaving a list…..I can sympathize. But I’m not sure how flashing a body double would be helpful here.

Mind you, if VSGPOTUSDJT and FLOTUS decided to collect a few spare passports while flashing doubles in NYC, I could see that. Fly the plane to Bahamas, Bermuda, Cayman, Jamaica, and Trinidad and do passport photos and such, then fly back to the US and disappear the doubles.

RAC

Can’t fight back if locked up with commie stooge running the social media accounts and press statements.
It’s not even as if he could rely on fair treatment by the corrupted legal system.

scott467

“It’s not even as if he could rely on fair treatment by the corrupted legal system.”

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Or the military.

Or even the sleepy prison guards and their buggy camera system at Epstein Correctional Facility.

cthulhu

I don’t see him running from a fight, but it’s easy to see him making the Dodge look foolish. Further, I could see him caching Barron and Melania somewhere relatively safe.

Gail Combs

Yes, I could certainly see POTUS stashing Tiffany, Barron and Melania AND THE GRAND KIDS & Moms somewhere safe.

REMEMBER THEY JUST OFFED his Ex-wife and Abe!

kalbokalbs

Trump is NOT going anywhere, to “get away”.

Trump IS the victim and he knows it. As do we. Can’t fight the bastards from, “Over There”.

The fight is for America on American soil. Trump knows it.

kalbokalbs

They don’t need to go anywhere to get passports. Courier can get it done overnight, or sooner. In any case, not necessary or likely.

Gingersmom2009

If two of the passports were expired, and the third was his “diplomatic” passport – then they must have family’s regular passports secured elsewhere. Right?

kalbokalbs

Beyond FIB should have never taken Trump’s passports, too much is being made of the passports.

My guess is Trump’s passports, are NOT normally with Melania or Baron’s passports.

Expired or not, not a BFD, in my mind.

Makes sense to me Trump has a Diplomat passport. As well as the regular tourist passport. Unless Trump anticipates foreign travel, no reason to tote it along when he travel to NJ, FL, wherever. Likely simply leave it safely at home. Ours stay in a safe.

Keeping expired passports is reasonable. I’ve got a handful. As does DW and I’ve encouraged my children to retain their passports.

Expired or not, valid identification. Also shows International travel. Countries entered, exited… Although, I have had US BP ask if I wanted my passport stamped or not, when arriving in US. Passport pages get full. Additional pages can be added…

singingsoul1

I have all my expired German Passports and one US Passport.

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Valerie Curren

Those would be Amazing family history docs!!!

singingsoul1

Yes they are 🙂

scott467

“Scott467 did some meticulous digging, and cannot find actual proof that Trump said it, such as a video.”

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I’m not sure I’d go so far as to say meticulous… 😁

I dug around a little, and everything I found was either commentary on the supposed “quotes” being published around the world, or parroting whatever Fox News Digital said.

Apparently the quote is from an interview DJT did with “Fox News Digital”, whatever that is, I’m guessing it’s just some staff reporter from the Fraud News website. Strange choice for DJT to use, to make what would seem to be such an important statement.

If it was a video interview, I haven’t been able to find the video.

If it was a phone interview, I haven’t found the audio.

If it wasn’t recorded at all, then as far as I’m concerned, it never happened 😂

It seems like all we have is the usual closed loop of controlled media quoting themselves and then using each other as sources.

Has DJT confirmed or denied anything with regard to this supposed interview he gave to Fox News Digital, a supposed interview which has been ‘quoted’ by MSM all over the world now, without anything apparently to back it up, besides Fraud News’ own claims?

scott467

I just looked over at OT, to see if SD had commented about it, and he has:

FBI Seized President Trump Passports During Raid on Mar-a-Lago
August 15, 2022

“The unprecedented DOJ and FBI assault against President Trump continues. President Trump gave an interview to Fox News to discuss:”

And then he says nothing more except to quote the text at the Fraud News link.

If you go to that link, there is no audio of an interview, there is no video of an interview, there is only the representation or characterization of an interview, by the world renowned and heavy-hitting news journalist and interviewer, twenty-something Brooke Singman.

If I understood the way the narrative was presented, Trump practically grovelled to the DOJ that he would do whatever he could to help.

Here is how Red State (Mike Miller) portrayed the Fox Digital News article:

……………………………………………..
Mike Miller: “Welp, now it’s getting really interesting, America. “It,” of course, being the FBI raid on Donald and Melania Trump’s private residence at Mar-a-Lago. As reported by several sources on Sunday, the former president sent a private message to Attorney General Merrick Garland on Thursday, prior to a Justice Department afternoon news conference. Grab the popcorn: The contents of that message have now been revealed.

Shortly before the press conference, a person close to Trump reached out to an official at the Justice Department to deliver a message to Garland.

As reported by The New York Times, [note: hidden safely behind a paywall] the message Trump wanted to be passed to Garland reads:

The country is on fire. What can I do to reduce the heat?

Let the speculation begin, which I will gladly start.”
……………………………………………………………………….

The ‘several sources’ remain conveniently unidentified.

Who revealed the contents of the private message? If it wasn’t DJT, then anyone else is automatically suspect.

As reported by the Carlos Slim owned New York Slimes?

Notice the lack of quotes around what Trump supposedly said, they just indent ‘block quoted’ like people can do here.

Did DJT actually say that, or is that just a sneaky way to imply that he did?

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Then there is the Fox News Digital article itself:

World famous 20-something Brooke Singman: “In an exclusive interview with Fox News Digital on Monday morning, his first since the raid, Trump said he had his representatives reach out to the Justice Department to offer to help amid outrage over the FBI’s unprecedented raid on his private residence last week, in which agents seized classified records, including some marked as top secret. Trump is disputing the classification of those records, saying the records have been declassified.

DJT quote: “The country is in a very dangerous position. There is tremendous anger, like I’ve never seen before, over all of the scams, and this new one — years of scams and witch hunts, and now this,” Trump said.

So far, so good.

DJT quote: “If there is anything we can do to help, I, and my people, would certainly be willing to do that,” Trump said.

Okay. More typical DJT tap-dancing.

DJT quote, further down the article: “People are so angry at what is taking place,” Trump said. “Whatever we can do to help — because the temperature has to be brought down in the country. If it isn’t, terrible things are going to happen.”

Still no quote of DJT grovelling to Garland, i.e., “The country is on fire. What can I do to reduce the heat?

Sounding more like an editorialized summary to me.

I didn’t see anything else in the incomparable and hard-nosed Brooke Singman article published by Fox News Digital about DJT lying prostrate before Garland.

As far as I can tell, that weak sauce ‘quote’ is only reported by the NY Slimes, but it’s behind a paywall, so I have to take Mike Miller’s word for it.

Mike Miller from the wholly unbiased Red State that is, a.k.a. Trump Haters Synonymous during the 2016 campaign.

Did DJT actually say what he is claimed to have said?

If he did, I haven’t found any proof of it yet, only claims by Axis Powers Media.

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Sylvia Avery

So, reading what the fuller account of what PDJT supposedly said provides a very different flavor than what was reported in the “short version.”

The longer version sounds believable. The short version did not.

Thanks Scott! I feel better now. At least on that one point.

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scott467

Brooke Singman’s very serious bio, the very first search result for her name on duckduckgo:

Brooke SingmanBy | On March 26, 2020 12:26 PM
https://www.mixedarticle.com/brooke-singman/

Brooke Singman is a political reporter at Fox News. She covers all the political issues of a nation. Besides, she is also a social media star with a huge fan following. Also, she is famous for her charming appearance.

Name Brooke Singman
Age Late 20s
Gender Female
Nationality American
Ethnicity White Caucasian
Profession Journalist
Married/Single Single
Education Boston University

10 Facts on Brooke Singman (note: this thing reads like it was written by a chinaman, or maybe by teenage girls):

  1. Brooke Singman is an American politics reporter. Her age should be in the late 20s. However, her actual birthdate and zodiac sign are not revealed.
  2. The reporter is a single woman. Thus, the lady does not have a husband or boyfriend. She is independent and self-sufficient. But sooner or later, she will find her soulmate as well.
  3. Singman works at one of the reputed channel, Fox News. So, she obviously has a heavy income. However, her exact net worth and salary in 2020 is not available.
  4. Apart from that, the lady is a social media star. Thus, she should have some earning from those platforms as well.
  5. Brooke does not have a Wikipedia. But her name can be found on the official website of Fox News. Apart from that, many online sites do not have her information.
  6. Singman was born and raised in the United States. Thus, she is of American nationality. Similarly, she belongs to the white caucasian ethnic group.
  7. The journalist is gorgeous. Moreover, she has an average height and an amazing personality. Also, she has dark brown eyes and black hair.
  8. Brooke is a smart and intellectual lady. She did her high schooling from New Canaan High School. Moreover, she completed her BSc in Journalism from Boston University.
  9. Singman has lovely parents. Also, she might have siblings. However, not many details on her family and siblings are available.
  10. Brooke is active on social media. She has an Instagram and Twitter account. The lady has gained 141 followers on Instagram. Similarly, she has amassed 22.2 K followers on Twitter.
Sylvia Avery

😮 😮 😮 Is this for real? Good lord.

Sylvia Avery

That would explain a lot.

Sylvia Avery

I’ve encountered similar things before and wondered how and why. Now I know! Thanks for the education.

scott467

“The reason I’m pretty sure they’re Chinese is that the errors sound more like the ChiComs I used to work with than anybody else.”

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It does do a good job of hitting many stereotype highlights 😂

I enjoyed these quotes:

“The reporter is a single woman. Thus, the lady does not have a husband or boyfriend. She is independent and self-sufficient. But sooner or later, she will find her soulmate as well.” (Ima print that out and put it in my Hope Chest 👍😁)

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“Singman works at one of the reputed channel, Fox News. So, she obviously has a heavy income.” (I’m not sure if that’s 1970s jive talk, a la Airplane!, or a 2020s chineeze attempt at Ingrish)

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“Singman was born and raised in the United States. Thus, she is of American nationality. Similarly, she belongs to the white caucasian ethnic group.” (said no native English speaker, ever… 🤣 )

Sylvia Avery

😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

scott467

😁

Cuppa Covfefe

No eonder http://www.engrish.com is inaccessible or down…  🤓 

Please

My fave:

Singman has lovely parents.  Also, she might have siblings.”

… or, she might NOT have siblings. We don’t know, but needed another interesting fact.

scott467

Either way, her parents are lovely.

Just lovely.

There is no disputing that 😁

kalbokalbs

Valley Girl BS.

KamalHOE would be proud.

cthulhu

Isn’t Boston University the diploma mill where AOC got her degree?

Gail Combs

New Canaan is in Connecticut so she is a new Englander.

Hubby said the Boston Univ. Ed dept was infected with John Dewey in the mid 60s so it is probably VERY infected with Marxism now.

Gail Combs

Thanks, Scott

We KNOW the Fake News ‘QUOTES’ out of context to twist the meaning of what a person actually said.

The good thing is KNOWING the Election Stealing TRAITORS are a bit worried.

scott467

“Remember – it’s how they SLEEP AT NIGHT. They tell themselves that everything they do is “legal”.”

__________

They know it’s not — if it was, they wouldn’t have to hide it, they would do it out in the open.

They can’t believe what they’re doing is right and good or true, if they are conniving and conspiring and colluding to prevent anyone from finding out what they’re doing 😁

Cuppa Covfefe

Sung to sleep by Satan…

BillBeakman

For them truth is irrelevant. Advantage is everything.
“Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.”

scott467

“Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.”

_________

Except me 👍😁

Gail Combs

“…They can’t believe what they’re doing is right and good or true….”

You are talking Sociopaths and Psychopaths so they JUST DO NOT GIVE A SCHIFF!

Sociopath vs. Psychopath: Examples, Testing, Treatment – Verywell Health
THERE IS NO TREATMENT! They are just smart enough to PRETEND!!!

I should know since I lived with two. (Brother & Ex-husband)

Aug 3, 2022

Both sociopaths and psychopaths lack the ability to care for other people. They also use manipulation tactics to get their way. However, psychopaths tend to be cold and in control of their emotions, whereas sociopaths are emotionally volatile.

This article discusses the differences and similarities of sociopaths vs. psychopaths. It also explains the causes of these conditions, methods for diagnosing sociopathy and psychopathy, and related treatments.

No one is officially diagnosed as a sociopath or psychopath. These are not clinical conditions, but rather descriptions of individuals who have specific types of antisocial personality disorder (ASPD).

Symptoms of antisocial personality disorder typically show up in the early teenage years. It causes behaviors such as:

  • Disregard for rules
  • Lack of guilt
  • Violating other people’s rights
  • Difficulty having healthy relationships
  • Inability to care about other people
  • Emotional issues

Sociopaths and psychopaths have some common traits, as well as characteristics that set them apart from one another…

scott467

“Just like every dirty trick they used against Trump – all of which I believe were “globally sanctioned” by horrifying and ANATHEMA secret treaties.”

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How is it possible for any member of a lawful government to make any ‘secret treaty’ which violates the Constitution so thoroughly and completely, that the Constitution may as well not even exist?

It’s not possible, the Constitution doesn’t allow for coups and star chambers, and the military ought to know that better than anybody, but it’s only the military that makes any of what the criminals and traitors are doing possible.

Without the Praetorian Guard, the criminals would be naked before their enemies.

BillBeakman

That last statement seems right. I’m having some cognitive dissonance juxtaposing that idea with the image of General Milley…

scott467

“Let’s assume that KAPO – Merrick Garland – acting under the orders of Stalinist ASSHOLE Barack Obama, via the grubby lips of professional LIAR Susan Rice, needs to INDICT or even ARREST Donald Trump.

This may even be a SECRET indictment, under SECRET LAW.”

____________

Well that’s just it, that’s obviously Banana Republic stuff, and it’s known in all places everywhere as Banana Republic stuff, because it’s a mockery of law and due process.

Unless KAPO is a criminal, he cannot act under the orders of Obutthole, because Obutthole is without lawful authority — he’s actually Constitutionally prevented from having any authority whatsoever (22nd Amendment), and KAPO *&^% well knows it — he can’t not know it, and be mentally competent enough to tie his own shoes.

Susan Rice is nobody, she has no lawful claim to authority of any kind, she’s a slumlord and a convict-in-waiting.

America doesn’t have secret law, there is literally no provision for any such thing — by design — in our Constitution.

So if there is secret law, then the Constitution no longer exists, which means America no longer exists.

Which is entirely possible.

I’m just saying that we can’t have secret law that blatantly invalidates the Constitution, AND still be a Constitutional Republic, at the same time.

Are they not diametrically and definitionally opposed to one another?

scott467

It does seem somewhat less than good, doesn’t it? 😁

Please

The Renegade Gov’t no longer operates from “this may not be legal, let’s not do it” .

They operate from ” Let’s do what we want. We know it’s illegal. Who’s gonna stop us? We’re all in on it”.

scott467

“Susan Rice is nobody, she has no lawful claim to authority of any kind, she’s a slumlord and a convict-in-waiting.”

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I was thinking of the lovely ValJar.

Suzie Rice is the one who “Didn’t leak nuthin’ to nobody”, which was a fancy lawyer way of admitting she leaked something to somebody while appearing to deny it.

WSB

Odd that Melania was getting out of the car on the ‘street’ side. That is what it looks like to me.

If you were SS, would you not have her disembark on the curb side of Fifth? It is a down town street. The building is on the East side of the street, so the left passenger door would be more direct, IMHO.

RDS

Yours Truly is doing the “suspicious dog” on this one. IMO, there are these differences:
The real Melania Trump holds her chest higher than the “Melania Trump” in the photos above in New York.
The real Melania Trump controls her walking from her hips. The “Melania Trump” in the photos above in New York appears to be using her knees to control her walk.

scott467

I was going to say that a video would be more useful to compare the way she walked to the way Melania walks. Even more so, because few body doubles would be as accustomed to wearing heels that high on a regular basis, and probably would not be nearly so comfortable in them as Melania is.

scott467

“Why would they not secretly arrest Trump?

Would it not be better “for national security” to order some kind of hoax-protected secret arrest “in the interest of public safety”?

Would it not be better FOR THEM to seed disinformation that “all is well”?”

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Sure, that would all be very convenient for the criminal occupation forces. Too convenient by half and half again — but who cares, if one is a megalomaniac and there’s nobody to stop you?

If ever there was a great time for the mythological Dead Man’s Switch, now would be it. And if ever there was someone in a position of wealth and power to pull it off, it would be DJT.

Soon (SOON! 😂 ) the military will be forced to either do something — if they’re ever going to — or give up the pretense that they are anything besides facilitators defending criminal occupation forces, in the furtherance of a treasonous coup perpetrated by domestic traitors and foreign adversaries.

So at least we have that going for us 😁

RAC

“And if ever there was someone in a position of wealth and power to pull it off, it would be DJT.”

John McAfee wasn’t exactly short of cash, and certainly had the expertise to organize a dead mans switch, but he died……in jail.

scott467

Yep, I’m not aware of anyone who has ever successfully pulled off the elusive Dead Man’s Switch maneuver, which is the source of so much Interweb lore and yore.

And to quote the ever quotable Robin Leach, I don’t know why! 😂

Sylvia Avery

My brother and I discussed PDJT’s supposed “message” to Merrick Garland. Do we believe it happened, or not? We both agreed it seemed unlikely. It doesn’t sound like him. And why would he say such a thing to Merrick? Merrick is no one. He’s a puppet. A nonentity. It would be like shouting into a vacuum. Utterly pointless.

As for Melania…..ye gods that mask! And the specs! She’s all but wearing a bag on her head. It seems most peculiar. Very extreme. I agree with WSB, though–those look like her hands, and her ring. But with her face obscured so effectively she could be anyone.

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Deplorable Patriot

Nails are easy to replicate.

Sylvia Avery

I was thinking more of the shape of her hands and fingers, although I noticed the nails.

mollypitcher5

I haven’t gone searching but recently there was a picture of Ivanka with the same huge mask. At the time it surprised me because it was so weird but with masks..who knows why people wear them.

scott467

“At the time it surprised me because it was so weird but with masks..who knows why people wear them.”

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I only wear one if I’m impersonating a doctor…

…and to protect me from the Covid, of course! 😁

Sylvia Avery

Wolfie, thanks for including the Prather video. Very illuminating. If people start it at about 16:45 he talks about Hunter being set up, seduced, compromised. He says you can find pictures of Obama hugging Chinese kids, Biden hugging Chinese kids, and he mentions the use of body doubles with different colored eyes and different shaped ears.

GA/FL

Enlarge the profile photo of the alleged Melania. Take a good look.

Those are not Melania’s eyes. Melania’s eyes slant up – very slavic-like. Those eyes look almost oriental, slant down with hooded lids.

My vote – it’s not her.

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TradeBait2

I agree.

Aubergine

That’s what I saw.

Not her.

I think President Trump sent her and Barron away somewhere safe. As he would. He’s her husband, and his father. They are innocents to be protected from this bullshit.

TheseTruths

It could be her without her eye makeup. This whole thing could be that simple — that for some personal reasons she made the trip without her makeup and wanted to be covered up.

jamcooker

There’s something not right about her hair / hairline either. I think her hair is not quite as fine, her base color darker, and forehead a bit lower.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Wolf, I think that Trump did say it, as DISINFO to the left. Why do I say this? Simple. Keep your enemies off balance, Tsun Tzu. “When you are close make the enemy think you are far away, and when you are far away make the enemy think you are NEAR”

Now, knowing that, you must watch and listen to EVERYTHING, even the controlled people on our side like Hannity. Example A from last night

Hannity to Trump Lawyer Abba ” Did the FBI ask for the security cameras to be off? Who did they ask (Fishing on Hannity’s part) Abba: “yes, The managers and staff at Mar a Lago” ” Hannity “Were the cameras if act turned off” Abba “no”

Later Hannity asks Eric Trump the SAME question. Hannity ” do you in fact have security camera footage from the raid” Eric Trump “YES” Hannity ” Will you or CAN you release it to the public?” Eric Trump “YES, at the APPROPRIATE TIME”

Ah, message SENT and likely RECIEVED.

Let me translate. DS via Hannity “Do you have us red handed on video?” Trump via Eric “YES”

DS via Hannity are you going to RELEASE it?” Trump via Eric “YES, we WE see fit, and when you are LEAST expecting it”

Now, as I discussed yesterday, just substitute the video of the raid with the red binder…AH, now you see. This is a PUBLIC feeling out.

The Cabal shot their wad in a PANIC. They MISSED. Now Trump is SWEATING them, letting them KNOW they missed and he has it, will release it when HE wants to, and they CAN’T stop it.

Yeah I think high profile people use doubles, no I don’t need a Trump watch. Trump, as the Cabal just found out, is STRONGER as they attack him. Were they to MARTYR him, they would get a REAL up CLOSE and PERSONAL look at a REAL insurrection, and it would look NOTHING like Jan 6th. They KNOW that now.

This PANICKED raid backfired. It was TOO harsh, and WAY too soon. They LOST the normies on this. Trump and THEY know it. Trump AGAIN tells us ALL the Truth, lets the MSM and Cabal blab lies, and then PROVES it. Example B the Passports and “privileged attorney client docs. Trump was RIGHT, they took them, ILLEGALLY, and NOW have to give them back. More PROOF of who is LYING and who is NOT to the normies.

Opps, NOW when (not IF but WHEN) Trump releases the red binder, even NORMIES will believe it, which equals Armageddon for the Cabal.

This FACT keeps Trump safe and alive. IF they Martyr him, it gets released and all hell breaks loose. If they arrest him, same result. If they wait, he releases, and they LOSE.

Trump NOW has ALL the leverage. Besides, IF they secretly arrested Trump, they would have to arrest the ENTIRE clan, including Barron, because Eric, Don Jr, or even Tiffany would be on TV TELLING US. Not to mention I am 100% sure Trump has contingencies. MULTIPLE contingencies for just such an occasion.

While that may well be a double, it would make sense that Trump would protect his FAMILY first. These fools are sick enough to HARM his wife, children or grandchildren, it would behoove him to limit that risk through confusion. Keep in mind, IF they harmed one of his family, ALL gloves are OFF, scorched earth. They KNOW this, I am SURE he has made that ABUNDANTLY clear to these fools.

Always remember. Trump was SMARTER than them BEFORE he was President, He was smarter than them WHILE he was President, and he REMAINS smarter than them now.

I keep going back to ” Sometimes, you cannot simply TELL the people, they MUST be SHOWN” Yep, even the normies are now being SHOWN.

Aubergine

“Besides, IF they secretly arrested Trump, they would have to arrest the ENTIRE clan, including Barron, because Eric, Don Jr, or even Tiffany would be on TV TELLING US. Not to mention I am 100% sure Trump has contingencies. MULTIPLE contingencies for just such an occasion.”

This is 100% my reasoning.

They can’t arrest Trump and have NO ONE from his family or associates tell us, unless they got them all. Which would also be noticed. I mean, even staff in their homes would notice that.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Bingo!

scott467

If a drug cartel kidnaps your family member, and they tell you not to say anything about it or you’ll start to receive body parts in the mail, that changes the dynamic.

What’s the difference between a truly criminal government and a drug cartel?

The people making the decisions are certainly no less vicious in one or the other.

The difference is that the criminal government is a million times more powerful, and therefore a million times more dangerous, than any drug cartel.

There is nothing a drug cartel would do that Hussein’s government won’t do.

Hussein’s goon squad just has infinitely more resources and a lot more flexibility, because they don’t have to worry about being arrested by anyone.

Aubergine

I think Trump probably has contingency plans for pretty much anything we can imagine, up to and including his arrest.

scott467

I hope so! 👍

scott467

“Let me translate. DS via Hannity “Do you have us red handed on video?” Trump via Eric “YES”

DS via Hannity are you going to RELEASE it?” Trump via Eric “YES, we WE see fit, and when you are LEAST expecting it”

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Or they could be bluffing.

Or they could be setting the FIB up with the pretext for a second raid, this time to get the security camera recordings 😁

scott467

“This PANICKED raid backfired. It was TOO harsh,”

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That’s the only way tyrants roll.

The harshness is part of the fetish 👍

scott467

“Example B the Passports and “privileged attorney client docs. Trump was RIGHT, they took them, ILLEGALLY, and NOW have to give them back. More PROOF of who is LYING and who is NOT to the normies.”

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FIB-Doj will definitely copy those documents, and definitely will use the information contained in them. They wouldn’t have taken them in the first place if they didn’t.

Which is why I wouldn’t take them back, I would ensure chain of custody goes to a law firm, to be processed and recorded, page by page.

That way, anything FIB-Doj does going forward that could even conceivably be tied to the illegally seized privileged attorney-client docs, can be challenged in court as ‘fruit of the poisonous tree’.

Tie them up in legal knots at every juncture, force FIB-Doj to engage in parallel construction to justify anything they could have possibly obtained from the illegally seized documents.

The more they have to do that, the more opportunities for FIB-Doj to make a mistake and get caught (again), and with FIB-Doj’s credibility already in a third world crapper, every time they get caught in criminal acts going forward, only solidifies their criminal image in the public eye.

scott467

“This FACT keeps Trump safe and alive. IF they Martyr him, it gets released and all hell breaks loose. If they arrest him, same result. If they wait, he releases, and they LOSE.”

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If the bad guys are convinced of that, i.e., that the info will be released no matter what they do, then the bad guys would choose either martyr or arrest.

Because of the three possibilities, the bad guys at least control the timing with martyr or arrest.

If they wait, then then bad guys don’t even control the timing.

So if something is going to happen and they are convinced they can’t stop it, then the least bad choice for the bad guys is to control WHEN it happens.

If timing is the only thing they have control over, and the choice is either let Trump control the timing or FIB-Doj controls the timing, then from FIB-Doj’s perspective, it’s “Use it or lose it”.

prognosticatasaurusrex

You are forgetting one thing, the DS THINKS they are untouchable. Arrogance will be their downfall. Well that and illegal overreach, but they go hand in hand.

scott467

“You are forgetting one thing, the DS THINKS they are untouchable. Arrogance will be their downfall.”

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That sounds great, comforting even, but I don’t know how it actually happens, and no one seems able to explain how it might happen, it’s as if it is just assumed to be some magic thing that will happen because the universe requires it, or something.

I just don’t have any experience in this life, or knowledge of history, that anything works like that.

So as a result, it feels like we’re mostly in some weird bubble of denial, telling each other anecdotes about how the good guys always win, as a coping mechanism.

And while that may indeed serve a useful purpose (coping is better than the alternative), it’s not a solution to what is causing the need for a coping mechanism in the first place.

We are in an insane situation, one that has never happened in our country or any other civilized country that I am aware of, certainly not in our lifetimes. What’s happening is so purely and indisputably insane that I don’t think most people are willing, or even able, to truly grasp it.

That seems evident by the way most people are reacting to what is actually going on. It’s psychological denial on a societal scale.

Just think for a moment how insane this is. A presidential election, in America, was stolen via a broad conspiracy involving thousands of domestic traitors and foreign adversaries. A coup took place. Past tense. And yet if I go to the market or any social function or go to church on Sunday or any other place, nobody will say a word about it or anything that is going on all around us, like none of it is really happening.

It’s the Twilight Zone.

The person in the WH is not the duly elected leader of the United States, he is a puppet, installed by domestic traitors and foreign adversaries.

We could stop right there, and the insanity level would be off the charts. Bizarro world. Through the looking glass.

If we asked anyone, even just 3 years ago, whether they thought anything like this could happen in America, people would laugh at us for even suggesting it.

Yet that is what has happened.

And that’s not even the tip of the iceberg.

I often wonder whether the denial isn’t far more damaging than anything the enemy is actually doing.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Read what I just posted. Then get back to me. Its on the daily about judge middlebrooks ruling in Trump’s civil suit.

scott467

Okay, I read it, but it doesn’t mean anything, it’s just lawyer games, until somebody is prosecuted and convicted.

And at this pace, we (and they) will all be dead and gone before anyone is held accountable.

There must be plenty of ways for Lo-retta to stall and delay and deny before that pig would ever squeal.

And assuming she does ever squeal, Odoofus will play the Executive Privilege card, and it won’t matter if it’s legally justifiable or not, they’ll litigate that issue until the year 2525.

It’s all lawyer games, with corrupt judges making the rulings, so what the Law says doesn’t matter. They can play this game forever, until someone makes them STOP.

Who’s going to do that?

The DoJ?

The FIB?

The military?

Andy Griffith, and Don Knotts?

I hope I’m wrong.

I hope you’re right, that this is a big development.

But I’m definitely not holding my breath.

Because I’ve seen this movie before, lots of times.

Is this time different?

prognosticatasaurusrex

Nope on Lynch, she will SQUEAL like a stuck piggy. Oh, and are you NOT paying attention, the Dems and Jan 6th just set PRECADENT on executive privilege with Trump. Sauce for the goose, what is good for Trump is good for Obama. THAT my friend is EXACTLY WHY we are put through this ordeal. Trump allows the dems to over reach and set new precedents on him which WILL be used on Obama and others. Trump is SHOWING their hypocrisy to the world. Then when it is time to pay the check, they cannot scream privilege OR unfair.

I know you are a contrarian, but come on. You have to see that. At first NO ONE but us hardcore Trump supporters believed him when he said he was unfairly treated, or the two tier justice system. Now all but most hardcore anti Trumpers see he was RIGHT.

“You cannot simply tell the people, you MUST show them” They are being show.

Yeah it is taking too long, so what. The RESULT will be justice. These people he is after are slippery and entrenched. You CANNOT go off half cocked. He HAS to have the people, MOST of the people, NOT just his hardcore constituency, on board or ANY action will be labeled political. Just because the dems are heavy handed and lawless, does not mean HE can be.

Remember, Durham IS still there, and he IS active, despite contentions otherwise. Ask yourself WHY. If he is to placate we the people, he is doing a lousy job.

OR is he being METICULOUS to a fault and having to deal with long entrenched corruption in a swamp that is MUCH deeper and widespread than we still know.

Durham took on the MOB and won, and corruption in the FBI and WON. But, these people make the mob look like high school band camp in their levels of corruption and graft.

I know, nothing has been done right? So nothing will ever be done right? (sarcasm) The SAME could have been said in 1770s America or 1930s America.

Nothing got done till it DID. And then it was like a bursting Dam. THIS will be the same. You choose to believe different, that is your choice as mine is to believe it WILL happen, and soon.

Once it does, it will be massive, the greatest takedown of ALL time. I am willing to wait for that.

You want action as do I. I SEE action, you do not. I want this done CORRECTLY and am willing to be patient to have that happen, you seem to just want ANYTHING to happen.

Remember, IF Trump fails we the people STILL have options, TERRIBLE options, meaning for the cabal.

Each day our movement GROWS as more and more see. Critical mass WILL be reached, then they had better pray that it is only Trump they are dealing with.

Believe what you want, I am done with this discussion.

scott467

“Oh, and are you NOT paying attention, the Dems and Jan 6th just set PRECADENT on executive privilege with Trump. Sauce for the goose, what is good for Trump is good for Obama. THAT my friend is EXACTLY WHY we are put through this ordeal.”

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Agreed, in a functioning legal system, that would be true. Things like precedent and goose/gander would be important (within the legal system).

Goose/gander *is* important from a public perception standpoint, but it is totally irrelevant within a corrupt legal system.

In a corrupt legal system, what’s good for the goose is good for the goose, and the gander gets death by blowtorch.

That’s what I mean, it’s a very different system 😂

Goose/gander works with public perception, but the public perception is not a factor if/when push comes to shove.

Precedent works in a legitimate legal system, but not in a corrupted legal system, because a corrupt legal system fashions outcomes favorable to the leadership in power. That means precedent will be used when it is in their favor, and precedent will be ignored when it goes against them.

More simply summarized, it’s “Heads I win, Tails you lose”.

That’s why precedent doesn’t matter, except when it’s against us.

Granted, it is possible to appeal all corrupt legal decisions to the (not)Supreme Court, and it is possible that the good guys could win a few of those challenges, but that is extremely time consuming, making it a perfect stall & delay tactic for the enemy to employ.

Why do they always employ that strategy?

Justice delayed is justice denied.

If current circumstances are not in bad guys’ favor, kick the can down the road, and wait for circumstances to change.

Maybe a (not)Supreme Court justices dies. Maybe congress swings back to your party. Maybe the presidency swings back (or stays with) your party. Maybe something like 9/11 happens and all attention is focused elsewhere.

Anything can happen as a result of delay when you’re on defense. You’re just waiting for some condition to change that can then be used in your favor.

With the aiding and abetting of a corrupt legal system, they can stall until the cows come home, grow old and die.

In a corrupted legal system, you CAN’T win, because the system is corrupt.

In order for things like precedent to matter within a legal system, the legal system has to not be corrupt.

We don’t have a system like that.

We have the corrupt version.

scott467

“Trump allows the dems to over reach and set new precedents on him which WILL be used on Obama and others. Trump is SHOWING their hypocrisy to the world. Then when it is time to pay the check, they cannot scream privilege OR unfair.”

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Agreed, that is a public perception issue, where goose/gander certainly works in Trump’s favor, as I have also commented previously.

The problem is that it doesn’t matter inside a corrupt legal system.

For sake of argument, suppose DJT achieves 100% public support.

That’s great, but it won’t make a difference inside the corrupt legal system, because even in the rare instance where the judge is not ideologically aligned with the bad guys, the bad guys have photos of the judge with some child, or he took a bribe, or his family was credibly threatened, etc., and that is always more important to the judge than what the public thinks.

That’s how we end up with someone like the judge in the Flynn case, who made himself prosecutor and jury, in addition to being judge.

And that blatant farce was just a preview of what TPTB will do to advance their agenda. If they are actually trying to save their own necks, they lengths they will go to will make the Flynn case look squeaky clean by comparison.

So as long as the legal system is corrupt, the bad guys can make sure the check never gets there, so they never have to pay it.

The bad guys know that.

Better than anybody.

Their lives and everything they’ve worked for, depend on it.

scott467

“I know you are a contrarian, but come on. You have to see that.”

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But I am not contrarian, what I see is the reality of the past and the present, and extrapolate to the future with clear eyes.

Past performance is not a guarantee of future results in a free market, but this isn’t a free market.

This is Three Card Monte.

scott467

“At first NO ONE but us hardcore Trump supporters believed him when he said he was unfairly treated, or the two tier justice system. Now all but most hardcore anti Trumpers see he was RIGHT. “You cannot simply tell the people, you MUST show them” They are being show.”

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And that’s great, so far as it goes.

Again, suppose we get to a point where 100% of the American People have been shown and understand.

Is anyone at FIB or DoJ or anyone else in government going to volunteer for the hangman’s rope?

Are they just going to give up?

Or are they going to look around, and see that they have the judicial branch in their pocket, they have the legislative branch in their pocket, and they have the executive branch in their pocket.

And that doesn’t even count many of the governors, mayors, corrupt state and local officials, corrupt police departments, corrupt international allies, and international enemies who are allies to American traitor leaders.

And most important of all, they see the generals and admirals and the entire United States military protecting and guarding them.

So supposing every man, woman and child in America has been shown and understands — then what?

The bad guys aren’t just going to say “okay, you win”, and turn themselves in to be prosecuted, convicted and executed.

If there is a single example in all of human history where that happened, what example would that be?

scott467

“Yeah it is taking too long, so what. The RESULT will be justice.”

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Hopefully. Is their even a remotely analogous situation, in all of human history, where justice was the outcome?

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“These people he is after are slippery and entrenched. You CANNOT go off half cocked.”

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Agreed, if ever there was a situation that requires full cock, this is it.

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“He HAS to have the people, MOST of the people, NOT just his hardcore constituency, on board or ANY action will be labeled political.”

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Any action contrary to the interests of TPTB will be labeled ‘political’, even if 7.5 billion people have been shown and understand the truth.

No different than Baghdad Bob assuring the public that the Americans were nowhere near Baghdad. If it comes to it, Bob will say “Who are you going to believe, me or your lying ears?”

And Bob won’t care if all 7.5 billion people on earth shout in unison, “We believe our lying ears!”, Bob is still going to lie.

Because that’s Bob’s job.

And his life depends on it.

So Bob is extremely motivated.

So any ‘action’ will be labeled political by TPTB, and by their propaganda arm, the MSM, regardless of whether all 7.5 billion human beings on earth know it’s a lie.

That lie necessarily needs to be overcome with something more than just public awareness.

Because the bad guys are not going to simply give up, they’re not going to effectively volunteer for execution, under any circumstances.

So public perception is nice, but public perception doesn’t defeat a professional military, and ultimately, it is the United States military which TPTB depend on for their safety, and to maintain power.

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“Just because the dems are heavy handed and lawless, does not mean HE can be.”

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He can be whatever he likes, but how is it going to make any difference, if he cannot solve for the problem of:

A) a corrupt political system, which is

B) protected by a corrupt legal system, which is

C) protected by a corrupt law enforcement system, all of which are

D) ultimately defended and protected by a corrupt military

What is the magic that overcomes the physical reality in which we exist, where Rule of Law no longer exists, and Might Makes Right has taken its place?

scott467

“Remember, Durham IS still there, and he IS active, despite contentions otherwise.”

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I don’t know what Durham is doing, and neither does anybody else here. He could be a black hat, or he could be a white hat, or he could be a white hat who was blackmailed, bribed or threatened into becoming a black hat, nobody here knows, or can know.

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“Ask yourself WHY. If he is to placate we the people, he is doing a lousy job.”

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WHY is the wrong question, because it can be answered lots of different ways to suit lots of different theories.

The better question is, assuming white hat best case scenario, WHAT can Durham do, within the constraints of a wholly corrupted legal system that is backed and defended by real people with real firepower and the trappings of legitimacy as a pretext to use it?

Suppose Durham has ironclad proof to put the entire government in the gas chamber, and 7.5 billion people have been shown and know the truth.

Is Durham going to go Rambo against the United States military and all of the armed agencies of the government (FIB, DoJ, ATF, IRS, you name it, they’re armed)?

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scott467

“OR is he being METICULOUS to a fault and having to deal with long entrenched corruption in a swamp that is MUCH deeper and widespread than we still know.”

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Who knows?

You don’t, and neither does anybody else here, it’s blind speculation.

He could be doing all of the right things, to lead us to believe he’s Eliot Ness on a mission from God. He could doing all the right things for the right reasons, or he could be doing them for the wrong reasons.

Or he could be doing the wrong things, and he’s just another psy-op to placate the government’s enemy (us).

Or he might not even be alive. When was the last time anybody even saw Durham?

If Durham was just a MacGuffin, how would you know, or even be able to know?

You can’t.

Nobody can, by design.

So Durham is just a game piece, and he can be plugged in to any theory we can come up with, pro or con. And since we (here) are all biased toward hope, we tend to insert the Durham MacGuffin into theories which provide us with hope.

But hope isn’t a strategy.

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“Durham took on the MOB and won, and corruption in the FBI and WON.”

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Clearly that was at a time when either the government was not wholly corrupted, or for reasons which served the interests of TPTB, Durham was allowed to prosecute certain people who TPTB wanted out of their way for internal turf struggle reasons.

Shirley no one would suggest that Durham could do the same today, now, in August of 2022, under the current circumstances — unless of course he is controlled by TPTB, and allowed to go after certain people, in order to protect other (higher) people?

Or asked another way, under what circumstances would Wild Bull Durham be capable of taking on the entire United States government and every weaponized agency therein, including Judges and Prosecutors and men with guns?

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“But, these people make the mob look like high school band camp in their levels of corruption and graft.”

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Far worse, what we have now is the Mob not just in control of the government, but they are the government.

And instead of TPTB being just the Mob — for even the Mob has rules and even the Mob exhibited patriotic duty in time of war — the U.S. government is led by true monsters, people aligned with WEF who seek the genocide of the entire world.

What is Wild Bull Durham, compared to that?

scott467

“I know, nothing has been done right? So nothing will ever be done right? (sarcasm)”

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No, I don’t really focus on that aspect, because it’s an unresolvable controversy which cannot be proven to anyone’s satisfaction, beyond what they already believe.

So it’s effectively a red-herring.

Instead, I try to find the relevant controversy, the thing which shows the truth of the matter, making the “nothing has been done so nothing will be done” angle moot.

In order to do that, I can stipulate ALL of the conditions which we claim to seek. For this particular discussion, I can stipulate:

A) 100% public awareness

B) 100% ironclad evidence in Durham’s hands

That’s more than will ever happen in reality, but I can stipulate both for purposes of example, because it eliminates either one from being used as an excuse for why nothing has happened (yet, or ever).

And focuses the discussion on the real problem, i.e., what real mechanism or magic wish overcomes the reality of men with guns — local, state, federal and military — who have and will continue to follow unlawful orders given by their superiors, who will follow unlawful orders of their superiors, and so on, all the way up to the illegitimate occupant of the WH?

In that chain, who is going to break ranks, and commit suicide by take on the rest of the chain who do not break ranks?

Nobody, that’s who. At best, we might have a few who walk away, if they’re far enough away from retirement that they don’t have so much to lose.

Since most people seem unable to grasp the situation we actually face, apparently because we’re too close to it, lets use ancient Rome as an analogy.

The tyrant Caesar de jour is a lawless lunatic indulging his every whim, but unlike actual ancient Rome, everyone in the Senate supports Caesar.

The Praetorian Guard and the Roman army supports Caesar too.

What are the citizens of Rome going to do, in order to defeat the Roman army, in order to get to the political class and totalitarian whack job who is destroying the entire Roman empire?

The citizens can’t vote their way out.

The citizens can’t defeat the Roman Army in a direct confrontation.

Those two options are off the table, because they were never true options in the first place.

The solution to the problem is therefore something else, or there is no solution.

Since “no solution” is self-defeating, it makes sense to focus on whatever the ‘something else’ could be.

Whatever that ‘something else’ might be, it definitely won’t be some rogue Roman prosecutor named Johnamus Durhamis who defeats the Roman army.

scott467

“The SAME could have been said in 1770s America or 1930s America. Nothing got done till it DID. And then it was like a bursting Dam. THIS will be the same.”

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How?

1770s America involved an armed rebellion led by military men, with support and arms provided by France.

Do you foresee a similar scenario developing now?

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“You choose to believe different, that is your choice as mine is to believe it WILL happen, and soon.”

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And what I keep trying to demonstrate is that it doesn’t matter what I believe, in the same sense that it doesn’t matter if I believe in gravity.

I still have to deal with the reality of gravity, whether I choose to believe in it or not, so my belief is not relevant.

But gravity remains relevant, regardless of whatever I might believe about it.

In similar fashion, it matters not at all what I believe about our current circumstances.

The extremely well armed and trained police and military guarding the whole corrupt system is an indisputable reality.

There are no magic words to make them disappear.

If there is no plan to go under, over, through or around that force which protects the corrupt system, then how is anything else relevant?

So it has almost nothing to do with what I believe or don’t believe. I’m on your side, I want your hoped for outcomes to happen, and I want you to be right.

What I am doing is pointing out the obstacles between where we are now, and where we want to be.

Most people don’t seem to want to acknowledge those very real and relevant obstacles, much less address how those obstacles might be overcome.

It’s like saying our local volunteer league baseball team is going to defeat the MLB World Series champions, and anybody who points out the disparity between the local volunteers and the MLB World Champions is the bad guy.

Most people appear to be making plans for the victory party, without ever considering how such a result might come to be, outside their hope bubble, i.e., in the real world.

I’m asking questions. I’m questioning the assumptions and the victory party plans.

Nobody likes that, but it’s not a popularity contest.

If you intend to take on the MLB World Series Champions, you better have a one helluva plan, or you’re going to get blown out, because that’s reality.

scott467

“Once it does, it will be massive, the greatest takedown of ALL time.”

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What is the “it” in “Once it does“?

It is a reference to “Nothing got done till it DID. And then it was like a bursting Dam. THIS will be the same” in the preceding paragraph.

This in turn is continuing the though expressed in the paragraph immediately above it: “I know, nothing has been done right? So nothing will ever be done right? (sarcasm) The SAME could have been said in 1770s America or 1930s America.”

I’m not sure what you are referring to in 1930s America, unless you mean ending the Great Depression. I’m confident the government and the FED could have kept the Great Depression going much longer, if WWII had not intervened.

If that is what you mean, then both of your references, 1770s America and the 1930s, involved military action. The first to create our Republic, and the second to save it.

Are you using those references because you believe that military action will likewise be required to save the Republic, in the here and now?

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“I am willing to wait for that.”

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For what?

For the military to get involved in some decisive way, as was required in your two examples, the 1770s and 1930s?

Or are you waiting for something else?

If it is something else, what is that something else?

To what action or mechanism or conveyance do you refer, which gets us from Point ‘A’ to Point ‘C’?

What’s the ‘B’ (mechanism, action) that gets use to the promised land (‘C’)?

scott467

“You want action as do I. I SEE action, you do not.”

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I see minor skirmishes. Some may be distractions.

Some may be psy-ops, by either side — assuming there actually are two ‘sides’, which is an enormous assumption involving all kinds of secret woo-woo about the military running a parallel government on Trump’s last orders before leaving the WH.

Some are likely legitimate but ineffective, because they don’t even seek to address how we get from “I’ve got all the evidence in the world against you!” to physically removing criminals from positions of power.

2,000 mules focuses on the former.

If I understand correctly, ‘The Pit’ focuses on the former.

If we have all the evidence in the world, and the entire world is ‘awakened’ and answers to that effect in surveys so the question of ‘awakened’ is not longer in doubt, that still does not address HOW a tyrannical and illegitimate power structure — who does not care about evidence or public awareness — is dislodged from power.

What I see is Americans being provided with plenty of reasons to shake their fists in outrage at the River.

What I don’t see is anything even proposed, which would actually divert the River from its current course.

It’s this weirdly elusive ‘thing’ which no one will talk about or discuss.

Everyone talks about how terrible things are now, and how great things are going to be when the apparently indescribable and elusive ‘thing’ happens, but no one seems to know, or even be willing to speculate about, what that elusive and indescribable ‘thing’ is.

It’s like being on the shores of europe in the 1600s. Conditions are terrible. There’s famine, poverty, oppression, religious persecution.

Everyone is talking about it, it’s the primary motivation for wanting to go to that other place on the other side of the Atlantic ocean, America.

Everyone is also talking about how great it’s going to be, once they get there.

But they’re all just standing there on the shore, waiting for “it” to happen.

Some have been waiting at the shore for a long time, others just recently awakened to their predicament and arrived recently.

There are even disputes about how much longer everyone should wait.

So there I am, walking around, listening to these conversations, and it occurs to me.

Nobody is talking about how anybody actually gets from the shore of europe to America.

It’s like a puzzle with an obvious piece missing — but like the naked emperor’s missing clothes, almost nobody seems to notice that piece is missing.

In the example, the missing piece is obviously a BOAT.

They need a *&^%ing BOAT to cross the Atlantic, or it’s never going to happen 😂

Without a BOAT, without a mechanism, without action, without a means of conveyance, they’ll just grow old and die (or starve), standing there on the shore, arguing about who is virtuous enough to wait the longest.

scott467

“I want this done CORRECTLY and am willing to be patient to have that happen,”

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We all want ‘it’ (whatever that means) to be done CORRECTLY.

Have we not all been exceedingly ‘patient’?

Is there any virtue in being patient, if being patient is the only thing we can do anyway?

It’s sort of like an Incel remaining a virgin, isn’t it? 😁

WWII was won is less than 4 years. It has been over 6 years since DJT was elected, and war hasn’t even been declared yet. We’re just supposed to sit tight and blow whatever savings we have left on popcorn, and enjoy a movie.

If we are at point ‘A’ (global tyranny in power), and we want to get to point ‘B’ (global tyranny not in power), how do we get from here to there?

What mechanism, what action, what means of conveyance is “it” that can happen in the real world, that would dislodge TPTB, even if ALL of the popular preconditions (public awakening, mountains of incontrovertible evidence, etc.) are met?

There is a good reason for the question, because if all we’re going to do is stand at the shore, waiting for some elusive ‘it’ to happen, TPTB are willing to let us wait there until eternity.

So is the virtue of declaring our willingness to be patient and wait as long as it takes really a virtue?

Or is it some kind of denial, being used as a bludgeon, to tamp down any talk about solving for the missing piece of the puzzle?

What is it?

What is the ‘it‘ that we’re patiently waiting for?

If every precondition is met, all of the i’s are dotted and the T’s crossed, when all the ducks are in a row and the stars are aligned, when the weather is perfect and the wind is at our backs…

What is “it” that will cause the armed forces to stand down, and cause TPTB to surrender?

That’s the missing piece to the puzzle.

If that piece is not found, then we’re just 7.5 billion people, standing on the shore, with massive amounts of evidence in our cargo, bragging about how we’re willing to wait longer than the next guy for ‘it’ to happen.

If you ever want to silence 7.5 billion people in a situation like that, you just need to ask a simple little 3-word question out loud:

What is ‘it‘?

scott467

“Trump NOW has ALL the leverage. Besides, IF they secretly arrested Trump, they would have to arrest the ENTIRE clan, including Barron, because Eric, Don Jr, or even Tiffany would be on TV TELLING US.”

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Maybe, but at this point, FIB-Doj is literally no different than dealing with kidnappers from a drug cartel.

If they secretly arrested DJT, then they have the leverage, because they can threaten to hurt him, if the family does anything the cartel doesn’t like.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Right, cause the FBI are so versed in terrorist negotiation and tactics. The SAME people who have BOTCHED every large event since WW2.

IF they martyr Trump OR arrest him, they WILL realize VERY quickly what a HUGE mistake they made, that is why they have not done it yet.

These fools keep playing politics and legal oppression, I really think they think they can simply get Trump or we the people to give up. King George thought the same, so did Japan. Neither got what they wished, but they DID get what they asked for. These fools are BEGGING for the same, thinking they are too big to overcome.

They are THAT deluded and out of touch. Yes they get away with stuff, so too did King George and Japan, till they DID NOT. They were STOPPED, rebuked, and PUNISHED. King George lost his territory, his armies, and a sizeable amount of cash and resources in the process.

Japan lost the war, and their ability to MAKE war. To this day we STILL have military bases in Japan. They pushed we the people too far, and we took it, until, invariably, enough was enough. Then WE pushed back, and DID NOT stop until victory.

The SAME is coming now. Trump opened the door and peoples eyes, but he is NOT the end all be all of we the people, he merely SHOWED us what was possible, what was and is now happening, and WHO is enabling and doing harm to we the people.

Yep Trump IS the leader, but he will be replaced someday. Trump is far more like Washington than Jackson.

Trump revealed the game to us, stopped it for a time and will stop it AGAIN. He is the FOUNDATION maker. in just 7 years he has TRANSFORMED the GOP into HIS making, once that job is complete others WILL follow.

Trump IS our leader for now, and IF they attack him, they in essence ARE attacking us. THAT is what the fools in the Cabal do NOT realize yet. Once this movement is started, it cannot BE stopped.

Trump gave us a TASTE of what USED TO BE. People EMBRACED it. Biden and Obama gave and give us a taste of what we DO NOT WANT TO BE, and the people are and WILL reject it. See Cheney, Liz et al.

IF they were to NOW arrest or take out Trump, he only becomes STRONGER in legacy, legend, and history. Someone else will rise up and fill the void, because they SEE what Trump has and IS building.

The people have NOT spoken yet, but we WILL. Trump is akin to our Moses, he is leading the way, but it will NOT end with him. They ONLY thing the DS do by attacking him is to make his legend GROW, and to inspire OTHERS to be LIKE him.

The WORST thing they could ever do is to continue to attack, but they are too stupid to realize that.

I think Trump is unafraid of death, he has made his peace with God, and I believe HE believes he is doing God’s will. I think he would happily die IF he knew America would again be free.

JMHO.

scott467

“Right, cause the FBI are so versed in terrorist negotiation and tactics. The SAME people who have BOTCHED every large event since WW2.”

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But that’s the advantage of the ruthless and corrupt when they run the government — they don’t need to be well versed in negotiation tactics to make a threat and carry it out. They only require the will to do it.

Because who is going to stop them? And if anyone would stop them, how would they do it?

We can’t just appeal to the moral outrage of the universe, flesh and bone has to DO something about it. It’s the “do” part that is hard because it entails personal risk, and it’s the “do” part that nobody likes to talk about.

Negotiation implies at least some balance of power between opposing parties, otherwise there would be no need for the dominant party to negotiate, they would simply take what they want by force.

If they arrest DJT, what power does his family have to compel the government to release him?

Sure, the optics would be terrible for the government — what if they don’t care? If they arrest Trump, then they already considered the optics, and they decided they don’t care.

So then, what action could DJT’s family take, to compel his release?

Would they appeal to the court system? The courts are corrupt, just like law enforcement and the rest of the government. Even if DJT’s family found a judge to order the government to release DJT, who will enforce the order?

Where does the rubber ever meet the road?

When does the rhetoric ever become action?

That’s an important question, because action will be required.

His family wouldn’t know where DJT was being held, and even if they did, what are they going to do? Drive up in an A-Team van, blow open the doors and rescue DJT amidst a hail of gunfire?

They would have optics and public sentiment, and while that is not nothing, it is effectively nothing if the enemy decides that they don’t care about optics or public sentiment.

Why would they decide they don’t care?

Many reasons, but ultimately, because they care more about their personal survival (saving their lives) more than anything else, and the only way to save their own lives is to maintain power, and if that means bad optics and public outrage, that’s the lesser of two evils, if the other ‘evil’ means being dead.

If they arrest DJT, then they will have very intentionally determined to go past the point of no return, because it was the least bad of their available options.

I think they blew past the point of no return a long time ago, going 150mph, blowing through roadblocks with the windows rolled down and throwing empty beer cans out the window, but that’s just me.

I think most people won’t accept that TPTB have gone past the point of no return, no matter what TPTB do, because if they do, that means there’s nobody else to do anything about it besides We the People.

Nobody wants that answer, and when people don’t have any good option, denial is always ready to play the seductress.

Everything keeps coming back to the same thing: projecting moral superiority and outrage (optics), but no action.

prognosticatasaurusrex

YET. I am glad you were not around in the 1770’s we would still be saying God save the Queen. MORAL OUTRAGE LEADS TO ACTION. lol THAT IS exactly HOW THE Federalst papers, and then the Declaration of Independence came to be.

scott467

“YET. I am glad you were not around in the 1770’s we would still be saying God save the Queen.”

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There could be no “we” unless you followed me… and if you followed me, then what does that make you?

Besides 250+ years old? 😂

And besides that, it’s really not my personality type, to go around asking God to save murderous and tyrannical thugs who only became self-described ‘royalty’ because they murdered all the other murderous and tyrannical thugs who were attempting to seize the same iron throne.

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“MORAL OUTRAGE LEADS TO ACTION.”

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Okay, you’re morally outraged.

What action have you taken?

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“lol THAT IS exactly HOW THE Federalst papers, and then the Declaration of Independence came to be.”

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Okay, now we’re getting somewhere.

The colonists who would be Founding Fathers didn’t just write those documents and declare victory, right?

And when the British found out about the existence of those documents, they didn’t just apologize for their imposition and lay down their arms, did they?

Hearkening back to the time between the writing of those documents and the withdrawal of the British, some thing, some action, took place, which caused the physical removal of the British.

What was ‘it’?

When the colonists completed the Federalist Papers and the Declaration of Independence, did they then patiently wait, no matter how long it might take, for those documents to march out onto the battlefield and defeat the British?

Or is there a mysterious missing animated “it”, which effected some sort of action which took place in the real physical world, between the writing of those documents and the resulting defeat of George, the tyrant leader of the miserable little island to the east?

What was the connective action, conjured into existence by those documents, which the colonists undertook upon the object of those documents, such that the physical presence of the British was physically removed from our land?

scott467

“IF they martyr Trump OR arrest him, they WILL realize VERY quickly what a HUGE mistake they made, that is why they have not done it yet.”

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But they will do it, if they are cornered, or if it is the only path to achieve their objective — because if you’re playing for your life, there is no reason not to play your best card. And if there is no other way to achieve your objective, and the ends justifies the means, then you (order someone else) to do what needs to be done — and let them take the fall.

They have already murdered millions of people all over the world. Other peoples lives mean nothing to the totalitarians giving the orders.

Besides that, does anyone think Hussein wouldn’t sacrifice every single pawn beneath him, either to achieve his objective (total destruction of the Republic) or to save his own life?

Of course he would, in a heartbeat. He would sacrifice the FIB, the DoJ, the entire government of the United States. He already has, most people just can’t believe it yet.

Does anyone think the people above Hussein wouldn’t use Hussein to do whatever dirty deeds need to be done, and then if necessary to save themselves or further their own objectives, throw Hussein under the bus?

Of course they would.

The people giving the orders aren’t in the public spotlight, and they don’t believe they will ever have to deal with the consequences of their actions.

With good reason.

They have never been held accountable before.

They are accountable to the criminal hierarchy, but certainly not accountable to the Law.

prognosticatasaurusrex

YET

scott467

“YET”

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Upon what reasonable, rational and defensible grounds — whether by any analogous example in human history, or by some entirely new thing under the sun — does this future expectation rest?

Is it magic?

For example, is some invisible force going to manifest itself, individually surrounding each of the tens of thousands of bad guys and their hundreds of leaders, and through some process like a Vulcan mind-meld, convince them individually to surrender — and if they won’t, then whisk them away from us to never never land?

Or is this future expectation based upon real human beings, engaging in real actions, which cause real enemies to either surrender or run away, to be tracked down and captured?

I’m interested in either answer, as each would be illuminating for different reasons.

I certainly expect you to come down firmly on the side of reality, though getting you to express how that reality might actually come about is proving to be trickier than playing whack-a-mole while white water river rafting 😂

scott467

“These fools keep playing politics and legal oppression, I really think they think they can simply get Trump or we the people to give up. King George thought the same, so did Japan. Neither got what they wished, but they DID get what they asked for.”

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I agree with your sentiments and I appreciate your enthusiasm and esprit de corps. I want you to be right, and I hope you are — but hope is not a strategy.

There are notable differences. George was 4,300 miles from the east coast, and Japan is 5,400 miles from Californistan.

In both cases, we had a military, with leaders — military men, with military training and experience — leading them.

In our current circumstance, the enemy is headquartered inside our country, at the highest seats of power — and ‘our’ professional military obeys them.

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“These fools are BEGGING for the same, thinking they are too big to overcome.
They are THAT deluded and out of touch. Yes they get away with stuff, so too did King George and Japan, till they DID NOT. They were STOPPED, rebuked, and PUNISHED.”

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Who punished them, and how?

Was it punishment by harsh rhetoric and moral outrage, or was there some other factor?

In both cases, the enemy was stopped by military action.

Who does ‘our’ military take orders from?

If the answer is “from the enemy”, that’s a real problem, and a significant difference from George or Hirohito.

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scott467

“King George lost his territory, his armies, and a sizeable amount of cash and resources in the process.”

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Due to legal maneuvering? Due to optics? Due to public or moral outrage?

Or was it due to something else, something practically no one today is willing to even talk about, much less do. And even if they were willing, how do they get through or around the U.S. military, and the brown shirts, and the Gestapo, in order to vacate TPTB?

Because while the military took no action to defend the Republic on January 20, 2020, they will certainly take action to defend the criminal political-class, if any scale of action was undertaken by We the People which could not be quelled by state or local occupation forces.

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“Japan lost the war, and their ability to MAKE war. To this day we STILL have military bases in Japan.”

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But how is that relevant? For a lark, suppose We the People somehow managed to overcome the occupation forces and retake our Republic. Are we going to take away our ability to make war from ourselves?

Is what’s happening now not happening here, inside our country? Is it not being done by our own political-class, by traitors to our own country?

prognosticatasaurusrex

It is NOT about the politicians, they derive their power from US. They and apparently you, forgot that, that is why they too will LEARN where they real power lies, Did not say it would be pretty OR easy, but it WILL be done, because it HAS to..

scott467

“It is NOT about the politicians, they derive their power from US.”

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Obviously that was the design and intent.

Don’t look now, but that’s clearly not how it works in practice — not anymore.

They derive their power from the Law of the Jungle now, where might makes right.

They just exercise that power by proxy, otherwise known as armed federal agencies, police and U.S. military.

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“They and apparently you, forgot that, that is why they too will LEARN where they real power lies,”

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I’m clear on who is supposed to be the master and who is supposed to be the civil servant as our government was originally created.

So it’s not a matter of forgetting, but rather seeing with my own eyes, acknowledging that the reality of our situation is inverted from the Founding Fathers’ original and expressed intent.

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“Did not say it would be pretty OR easy…”

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Agreed… you won’t even say what “it” is, or how “it” will achieve the desired outcome.

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“…but it WILL be done,”

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What will be done?

What is “it“?

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“…because it HAS to..”

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How?

Or is that just an appeal to a logical fallacy, called the “Fallacy of Inevitability”?

scott467

“They pushed we the people too far, and we took it, until, invariably, enough was enough. Then WE pushed back, and DID NOT stop until victory.”

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Did we do that?

Was it just some Americans who got together, and took it upon themselves to do the right thing?

Or did the military do that?

And if it was the military, did the military do it out of outrage, or desire? Certainly many joined the military for those reasons, but is that what compelled them to storm the beaches of Normandy under heavy fire?

It’s one thing to join the military in an outburst of patriotism, to fight Hitler. It’s a whole other thing to assault a machine gun nest, while the enemy is firing at you.

The military did it because some lawful leader came up with a plan, and gave the order, and the people responsible for carrying out those orders compelled the men under their command to take insane risks — risks that any normal man under other conditions wouldn’t think to take upon himself, unless he didn’t have any other choice.

Because when you’re in a Higgins boat in 1944, on June 6th, and the bow ramp drops, you’re going toward the beach — whether you want to, or not.

Action.

Because action is required to effect change. Action which is compelled by men who are in command over soldiers — commanding officers who don’t give soldiers the option to refuse, even if they are nearly certain to be going to their death.

Even if it comes down to being more afraid of your commanding officer shooting you in the back, than you are of the enemy shooting you in the front.

Guess who We the People would have to go through, in order to get to TPTB?

prognosticatasaurusrex

200000000 to a few thousand. More added each day. You sre what they welcome, we are what they FEAR

United we stand, divide and conquer. ACTION happens in MANY ways, Believe me they do NOT want us to run “out of all other redress”

scott467

“200000000 to a few thousand. More added each day.”

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Who is in command of those 200 million? Who is organizing them into an effective fighting force, if the intention is to somehow, some day, actually and physically remove the tyranny which plagues us?

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“You sre what they welcome,”

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Oh yeah, they love me 👍😉😂

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“we are what they FEAR”

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How do you determine whether that has any basis in fact at all, or whether it just feels good to say it?

Is that the royal ‘we’?

Why would TPTB fear this royal Wedom, unless the royal Wedom possesses the capacity to physically remove the TPTB?

Do you claim this capacity on behalf of the 200 million strong Wedom?

How would this capacity be utilized, in the real world, to bring about the physical removal of TPTB?

Will the United States military fear the Wedom?

They were supposed to be on the side of We the People, of the Republic, but instead they’re defending and protecting TPTB.

So it’s shaping up to be a battle royale, the Wedom vs. what is traditionally known as the most powerful military in the world. A military trained and experienced in fighting other professional militaries and terrorist organizations like ISIS.

What would they ever do, if a couple hundred thousand soccer moms and dads roll up in minivans? More than that is unlikely at any one place, due to traffic issues and other logistics.

Whatever else they might do, I’m sure laughter would figure prominently in the military’s response.

Would any professional military — with armor and every modern weapon known to man at their disposal — have difficulty defeating 200,000 civilians, most of whom have zero military training, have only small arms at best, and no armor, no organization, no organized communications, no air power, etc., etc., etc.?

So TPTB don’t have to fear, because they won’t be confronting anyone with torches and pitchforks. They’ll just dispatch the United States military to deal with the little people.

And the United States military will not be afraid to confront any civilians who are intent on making a suicide charge.

They’ve seen Zulu (1964). The United States military has a lot more than just 100 men, and soccer moms (and dads) are not Zulu warriors.

The point being, a direct confrontation between essentially unarmed (and unarmored) civilians and the most powerful professional military on the planet is not a contest. It wouldn’t even qualify as a Turkey shoot. It would be a slaughter. It’s unlikely that even a single professional soldier would be injured, unless they were caught off guard by 50,000 minivans sneaking up on them.

And TPTB will most certainly surround themselves with military protection. They love having the military put up fencing and razor wire around the Capitol.

So unless whatever “it” is includes convincing the military to switch sides and join We the People, the military is going to stand between the great unwashed and TPTB.

The military will have no fear, and TPTB will have no fear that the military can’t protect them.

In case it isn’t clear what I’m doing, it’s like playing devil’s advocate, to see whether various potential approaches pass the laugh test.

So far they don’t, and none have been presented yet which do.

Something more will be needed than bravado, and a belief in cosmic inevitability.

scott467

“United we stand, divide and conquer. ACTION happens in MANY ways, Believe me they do NOT want us to run “out of all other redress” ”

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I want to believe, but all evidence suggests that causing us to run “out of all other redress” is exactly what they want.

It’s not like they’re hiding it anymore.

They must be pulling their hair out, wondering what more they could do, to provoke the citizenry into any kind of actionable response, at all.

They even raided the great Maga king’s castle.

Crickets.

I understand that the current idea is to wait and see what happens in the midterms. We’ve gone 2-1/2 years under enemy occupation, what’s another 2-1/2 months?

I guess we’ll find out 👍

scott467

“Keep in mind, IF they harmed one of his family, ALL gloves are OFF, scorched earth. They KNOW this, I am SURE he has made that ABUNDANTLY clear to these fools.”

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Except it’s still one man (plus his team, however large or small it may be) against the behemoth of the criminal federal bureaucracy and all of their criminal agencies, plus the military.

And even if he has a means of dealing a crippling blow to the globo-Nazis, timing would still be critical. Going scorched earth would be an emotional reaction, and predictable, which is definitely not Sun Tzu.

prognosticatasaurusrex

And yet that globo -Nazi behemoth lost to him in 2016, and he has beaten them CONTINUALLY since. It most certainly is Tsun Tzu. “Revenge is a dish best served COLD”

I could quote more and more in the art of war, but you are just being contrarian now.

Gail Combs

“…Keep in mind, IF they harmed one of his family, ALL gloves are OFF, scorched earth….”

They HARMED Abe, his friend AND his Ex-Wife who he STILL had as his business partner.

This raid makes it certain Ivana’s death was not some accident.

prognosticatasaurusrex

Perhaps. But we have not yet seen the counter to that have we.

Aubergine

I don’t think it’s inevitable, and I think this very public raid was a test.

They failed.

They didn’t have to do this publicly. They could have gone in quietly and probably INVITED and done it. They could have sent two agents on a Tuesday at 9am, and we would be none the wiser.

They didn’t, and there’s a reason. They were gauging the temperature, and it is HOT, HOT, HOT.

Americans are PISSED. Keep up the pressure, keep up the heat. Because that is how we win, how we keep our President safe, and how we get through the upcoming election.

We’ve shown them how mad we really are. It’s why they immediately made the statement about “returning” passports and other items. If Americans had shrugged, they’d still have them. Americans FLEXED, and they have to give them back.

The FB-Lie IS going to be shuttered, and the earth it stood on salted. I actually believe that is possible now. I didn’t before.

kalbokalbs

Hope you are correct.

Aubergine

Me, too 🙂

RAC

Very sombre article, if it turns out to be correct it would tick the penultimate box to become third world.

Tonawanda

The President’s safety is our most vital concern. IMO there is no possible way his continued existence can be permitted by Cabal. The next priority is shutting down the election, and the two may be related. No way can the Democrats be humiliated in November, the message would be too sharp and definitive.

The dilemma is what we can do. I would get in my car and drive anywhere, but where, and to do what, I do not know. That remains to be seen.

And we have already been pre-labelled so that by definition we will be severely punished on an ad hoc basis. IOW, any negative reaction will be considered a “dire” unlawful one.

The raid showed how easily the secret service can be shunted aside, and their loyalty is questionable anyway.

Taking the President’s passports, in my mind, was a specific message.

We must remain strong, keep our anger cold, and expect the worst.

Tonawanda

If you aim at the king you cannot miss. IMO that is where we are at.

kalbokalbs

Thus far they have tried numerous times AND missed each time. Exposing their lies and inept ways.

But, try again, they will. And they’ll fail again.

kalbokalbs

Rambling here…

November 8th presents a real dilemma for the Cabal. 100% the Cabal, D-Rats can’t face the truth. The Bitch Slapping, Repudiation, Americans WILL deliver to D-Rats.

Anything the Cabal does, WILL FURTHER energize Trump supporters AND WAKE more folks.

  • INCREASE the anti-D-Rat VOTE.

What are they gonna do?

  • Indict and arrest Trump. They will. They know THIS will backfire. They’ll do it anyway. Cabal is out of Schlitz.
  • Try to stop Trump from leading rallies, endorsing MAGA types. Stop trump from further exposing D-rat hypocrisy, lies, frauds they are. GFL with that.
  • Cancel or change November 8th to a later date? BIG backlash.
  • Absolutely ENERGIZE Americans against the Cabal.
  • HLS, DOJ and FIB will be ACTIVELY looking for any misstep by Trump supporters. Yea, already watching us.

Covidiocy is being cast aside for the fraud it is. Along with the Injections.

GayPox ignorance has failed miserably.

Gotta believe there is enough food to get us through the winter. Fuel, prolly so.

Economy IMPLODING IS THE Big Fucking Deal, I Think.

  • Folks NOT having enough money to eat and heat homes CRITICAL.
  • Civil unrest.
  • Martial Law?
  • Delay the election?
  • Delay seating the next Congress, after current Congress adjourns?

^^^ 100% of this INTENTIONALLY caused by BiteMe, his criminal administration, rice, hussein, deep state…

Chris

“Cabal is out of Schlitz.”
Is that Sh!t still even made and sold over the counter?.. 😜 
Or is is that just a figure of speech?
I was weaned on PBR, learned early to give anyone holding one the side-eye.
..so it must be the latter.. 😄  😂 

kalbokalbs

Cracking up here.

Was wondering if, Out of Schlitz would resonate.

No idea if it is still out there. Intended as a figure of speech AND for fun.  😀 

Chris

Yes, Figured that.
For me, after PBR that schiltz was some bad stuff from the first sip.
Easy pass or fail test. Even as a toddler. No one in their right mind would drink it , given a choice. They must not be of sound mind, so give them a wide berth 😂 
Cabal is losing their sh!t and having sh!t throwing fits to see what sticks..  😂  😂 

Brave and Free

Oh I remember those earlier days, 16 years old and fake ID. Stop at the 7-11 buy a sixer of 16oz Schlitz.
Life was good LOL

Cuppa Covfefe

Remember the old commercials on the Sonny and Cher show?

Some poor unfortunate (or not paying attention) person takes a long walk off a short dock…splash…

“When you’re out of slats, you’re out of pier”… 😀

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kalbokalbs

🙂

Please

This is bigger than the USA. The Cabal *needs* the USA to fail in crisis so it can usher in the NWO using the “here to help” message behind the Marshal Law and digital ID and CBDC.

They will have a few more arrows in the quiver before 11/8. Keep powder dry but be loud to politicians.

This FBI mis-action and economic meltdown allows convo between normies, So speak to any and all that will engage. Be shocked! Get them talking about how outraged they are.

I don’t show them the rabbit hole. Let them figure out how far and big the evil is. They *will* need to be shown. They cannot be told.

scott467
  • “Cancel or change November 8th to a later date? BIG backlash.
  • Absolutely ENERGIZE Americans against the Cabal.”

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Then if I was Cabal, I would postpone the election to something like December 15th. Then postpone the election until sometime after Christmas.

When is a backlash not a backlash, no matter how big it threatens to be?

When the election is never actually held, so no backlash can ever materialize 😁

Then in February or March, when MSM can no longer control the narrative, announce that the election will be held in June.

When June gets close, announce that there’s a problem with the ballots, and the election will have to be moved back until September.

Just stall forever.

Why not?

It’s easy, they can do that in their sleep. It maintains the status quo, and the status quo is good enough for those in power, compared to the alternative.

This strategy creates a dynamic no different than today, but in perpetuity.

Today we have no actionable means of physically stopping them, and that’s the only way they’re going to be stopped.

If they postpone the elections along the lines suggested above, then we’re in the same predicament, whether it’s next week, next month, next year, or next decade.

Until or unless We the People have a definitive answer to the “or what?” question, they can stall indefinitely.

What is the “or what?” question?

We the People: “You better not delay those elections again, not even one more time!

Cabal reply: “Or what?

You see the problem?

It’s the same problem, over and over again. Until we have an answer to that question, they can stall and delay the elections forever. Because whey wouldn’t they, so long as we don’t have an answer to the question “Or what?

They don’t care about our ‘outrage’.

In the Cabal’s hierarchy of importance, staying in power is #1.

Our ‘outrage’ doesn’t even make the list.

Gingersmom2009

But if she’s a double, then the SS have to be in on it. Right? Or are these guys Trump’s personal security with a DHS license plate?

TradeBait2

If devolution is indeed happening – you have your answer. They are patriots in on it.

TradeBait2

Linking this to just reinforce that Fox is controlled op in most cases. Tucker appears to be an exception, but he owns his own show and does it from home in Maine.

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/here-is-the-data-behind-all-the-claims?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

TradeBait2

Hey Marge, roll out he good stuff. Bacon Popcorn for all my friends!

🤣

kalbokalbs

Tide IS turning in favor of TRUTH.

TradeBait2

Looking forward to seeing who his attorney will be. Any bets Lin Wood raises his hand?

😂

Cuppa Covfefe

Media Matters = Satan Sauros…

(no surprise there, he’s an experienced, old NAZI used to killing people and economies)…

Brave and Free

Yup has been for years now, way before the election, look who they got rid of in the lead up to the election.
O’rielly, Ailes , plus never trumpers so they can look like there not really anti-trumpers.
Have to keep Mr. Ticktock so they look like there still conservative.
Stopped watching fraud Fox back in 2012 and never looked back. Dug into online news sites at that point, best decision I made.

kalbokalbs

Likewise. ~2012 cut the cable (DirectTV) cold turkey. Never once looked back.

Quit National Felons League about the same time. Have NOT missed any of it.

RAC

Not seen this reported yet…

In the morning, a negative test for COVID-19, in the evening, symptoms: the first lady of the United States has contracted coronavirus.

At the same time, Jill Biden has been vaccinated twice and received two booster shots against coronavirus.

The President’s wife has been prescribed a course of Paxlovid, and she will be isolated from others for at least 5 days.

Well, I ruined my husband’s vacation on the ocean.”

https://t.me/sputnik/10978

rayzorback

I wonder if….
All these Rats coming down with the Rona is really….
Grand Jury testimony cover?

Deplorable Patriot

It’s cover for something, that’s for sure.

BillBeakman

That’s nonsense! Give him a day & he’ll forget he was at the (sorry “on” the) ocean! 🏄 

kalbokalbs

GREAT news!

kalbokalbs

^^^ See there. Positive thinking.  😖 

Can’t fix stoopid. No tears here. Just don’t care about them folks health.

They are doing everything possible to destroy America, Americans.

My thought is, Piss On Them!

Sorry. NOT Sorry.

scott467

“Four shots plus the immunity suppressor drug – she’s a goner within a few years, IMO.”

_____________

Unless they’re lying.

About the vaxx, the boosters, and/or testing positive for china virus.

OTOH, these monsters would never stoop so low as to lie… would they? 😁

WSB

Probably just keeping Jill out of sight since her Depends fashion faux pas.

GA/FL

First Lady is evidently in NYC

kalbokalbs

Melania, always beautiful to see. Someday, maybe I’ll get lucky. See Melania at a rally. OR, when Trump is inaugurated again.

(Likely the ONLY thing that’ll get me back into DC.)

WSB

Ha! So, maybe Melania real DID fly back to NYC to have her hair done!!!

Nor'easter

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In the Raid of Mar-a-Lago, the FBI demanded that all security cameras be turned off. What is that all about? We said no!

scott467

“In the Raid of Mar-a-Lago, the FBI demanded that all security cameras be turned off. What is that all about? We said no!”

_________

When an unlawful ‘demand’ actually turns out to be a ‘request’ in disguise.

Requests can be denied 👍

Nor'easter

So can “DEMANDS” !
😉

Valerie Curren

not my pronunciation but what the hey 🙂

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scott467

And it’s always Donnie before the Darko 👍😁

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Valerie Curren

Yikes…I never saw that one & looks like I didn’t miss much!

scott467

I remember liking it, back when I saw it some 20 years ago. It’s definitely on the bizarre side, like something director David Lynch is known for.

Donnie Darko [2001] is rated 8.0 out of 10 on imdb.com, with 792,000 votes.

That doesn’t mean it’s good of course, but somebody likes it 😁

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Valerie Curren

Thx Scott. We enjoy reading IMDB for the amateur snarky comments. Sometimes Way Better laughs than any of the movies or shows!

scott467

If you remember the video meme of Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein, where Feinstein looked like she was about to cry, it was set to the slow version of the song ‘Mad World‘ that was used in Donnie Darko.

Here it is:

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Valerie Curren

thanks 🙂